Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 29th September 2012:
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08:26:24  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
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12:27:10  <BiG> hi
12:27:11  <BiG> !date
12:27:11  <Stablean> BiG:  9 Jan 2124
12:27:13  <BiG> !players
12:27:15  <Stablean> BiG: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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13:31:59  <Chris_Booth> !ip#
13:32:01  <Chris_Booth> !ip
13:32:01  <Stablean> Chris_Booth:
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14:58:43  <Stablean> <LiukSk> hi Troy McClure
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15:03:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, hi and bye Liuk
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15:26:12  <Sylf> hi Woodbutcher
15:26:28  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hiya
15:26:40  <Sylf> do you see people playing this map still?
15:27:24  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well big meech is here a lot but not sure how much he's been playing
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15:28:13  <Sylf> I didn't see much activity yesterday
15:28:23  <Sylf> if nobody's building anything, I'll load a new map
15:28:28  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i couldn't log on at all yesterday
15:28:50  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> it seemed that the server was down to me
15:28:55  <Sylf> server was down for a few hours
15:29:16  <Sylf> people are trying to figure out the cause and fix it even as we speak
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15:29:31  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotcha
15:29:50  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh they got the refit line working, cool
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15:31:34  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi jam
15:31:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> hello
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15:35:32  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hey i got a question maybe you guys know the answer
15:35:42  <Stablean> <THE_SERVER> shoot.
15:35:48  <Stablean> <THE_SERVER> BAH
15:35:54  <Stablean> *** THE_SERVER has changed his/her name to Sylf
15:35:58  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i used to see little arrows  when the trains loaded and unloaded but I don't now
15:36:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> where did that nick come from...
15:36:06  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> and a load percentage
15:36:08  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> mine?
15:36:22  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> woodworking is a hobby of mine
15:36:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> no, my nick, before nick change
15:36:36  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh
15:37:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> can you point to me for an example of the question?
15:37:21  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> um maybe on the web
15:37:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> press the train button in transparency options
15:38:11  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, you mean, those side-looking triangles in the train order window?
15:38:22  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> no
15:38:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> hm
15:38:55  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> like on top of the train I saw a little white arrow with a loading precentage
15:38:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> press the train button in transparency options :)
15:39:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, at the station, the up/down triangle/arrow while the vehicles are loading/unloading?
15:39:18  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yes that
15:39:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> are the loading percentage showing up?
15:39:38  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> no
15:39:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> Think you need to press the train button in transparency options
15:39:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> hit ctrl-x
15:40:01  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok
15:40:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> and check the very last box on that window
15:40:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> or the train button in ... oh i give up
15:40:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> if it's depressed, fix that
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15:40:36  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok that was it
15:40:37  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> sorry
15:41:04  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i was looking at someone elses trains and thought it showed it before
15:41:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> you can show those too
15:41:40  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> how?
15:41:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> advanced settings -> interface -> display options -> use loading indicators
15:42:09  <Stablean> <Sylf> set that to all companies
15:42:36  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotcha thanks
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15:43:20  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thanks jam you were right
15:43:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> oh about pressing the train button in transparency options
15:43:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes i know
15:44:01  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> :)
15:44:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> you can lock that transparency setting, so you'll never lose that indicator
15:44:23  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh yeah?
15:44:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> in that ctrl-x window, you can ctrl-click on that button
15:44:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ah ha
15:45:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> if you see a padlock in the icon, it'll no longer by affected by the X key
15:45:25  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cool thanks
15:45:35  <Stablean> <Sylf> I have trees permanently disabled that way :P
15:45:49  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> there's lots of little things like that in this game
15:46:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> there are years and years worth of those little tweaks built in to this game :P
15:47:17  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> so I'm finding out :)
15:47:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> so if you guys want a new map it's fine with me
15:48:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's not the same ttd...  but I never got to play ttd in the first place
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15:48:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> ARyan's tram #4 is lost  :/
15:49:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> bad tram track
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15:50:21  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh it can't get over that bridge?
15:50:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> right
15:50:38  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> whoops
15:51:12  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gonna fix it?
15:51:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> no
15:51:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> it won't matter if we're ending this map
15:51:43  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok
15:52:31  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> any comments on my stuff?
15:52:50  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i tried to use priorities and stuff
15:53:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> I would do more expansion, so it's not so jammy around Ahualoa Woods
15:54:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> otherwise...  it's a good start.
15:55:05  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> what would you suggest?
15:55:28  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i agree its jammy but i'm not sure the best way to fix it
15:55:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> one of the glaring thing is the size of the curves
15:55:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> you have a 5-tile trains with max speed of 187km/h
15:55:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> whatever it is in MPH...
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15:56:24  <Stablean> <Phillip> hi
15:56:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> with that length, it takes certain size of curve to keep the full speed
15:56:28  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> 115mph
15:56:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
15:56:45  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi phillip
15:57:04  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> so what size do I need?
15:57:10  <Stablean> <Sylf> so, it's a good idea to learn to either build with shorter trains, or pick an engine slow enough to take those curves at full speed
15:57:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> the good rule of thumb is, however long the train is should also be the size of the curve
15:58:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> but if you want to build a really long, but slow trains, the good friend is this openttd wiki page... let me go find it
15:59:29  <Stablean> <Sylf>
15:59:47  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thanks, i'll read it
15:59:55  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> so yours are 3 tiles long?
16:00:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> it took me a while before I really understood that chart
16:00:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> here, yes.
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16:00:36  <Stablean> <Sylf> Meech's company is the same
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16:05:49  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok next  game I'll try shorter trains
16:07:18  <Sylf> !rcon ls
16:07:18  <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory)
16:07:18  <Stablean> Sylf: 1) archive/ (Directory)
16:07:18  <Stablean> Sylf: 2) autosave/ (Directory)
16:07:18  <Stablean> Sylf: 3) uploads/ (Directory)
16:07:18  <Stablean> Sylf: 4) restart.sav
16:07:19  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 31 more messages
16:07:28  <Sylf> !rcon cd 3
16:07:30  <Sylf> !rcon ls
16:07:30  <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory)
16:07:30  <Stablean> Sylf: 1) archive/ (Directory)
16:07:30  <Stablean> Sylf: 2) StableTempS39.sav
16:07:30  <Stablean> Sylf: 3) BlackGold.sav
16:07:30  <Stablean> Sylf: 4) StableArcS20.sav
16:07:31  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 103 more messages
16:07:45  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
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16:08:34  <Sylf> !setdef
16:08:34  <Stablean> *** Sylf has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
16:08:34  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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16:08:36  <Sylf> !auto
16:08:36  <Stablean> *** Sylf has enabled autopause mode.
16:08:47  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi all
16:08:52  <Sylf> hi happy
16:08:55  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy
16:09:17  <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has started a new company (#1)
16:09:17  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
16:09:17  <Sylf> !rcon set pause_on_join 0
16:09:17  <Stablean> Sylf: players
16:09:17  <Stablean> Sylf: server_info
16:09:17  <Stablean> Sylf: clients
16:09:17  <Stablean> Sylf: echo doneclientcount
16:09:19  <Stablean> Sylf: players
16:09:19  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 25 more messages
16:12:07  <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#2)
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16:15:52  <Stablean> <Phillip> What, no trains in new rail vehicles!
16:16:14  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#4)
16:16:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh crap....
16:16:32  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators
16:16:36  <Stablean> <Sylf> sorry guys
16:16:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> :D
16:16:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> I should remake the map
16:16:51  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving)
16:16:53  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
16:26:29  <Sylf> !load 2
16:26:34  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
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16:26:54  <Sylf> !auto
16:26:54  <Stablean> *** Sylf has enabled autopause mode.
16:26:56  <Sylf> !setdef
16:26:56  <Stablean> *** Sylf has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
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16:27:15  <Sylf> !rcon set pause_on_join 0
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16:27:41  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> wwe good to go?
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16:29:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> woodbutcher, can I join your company later?
16:29:26  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> sure
16:29:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> why do you want to though you know I don't know what i'm doing :)
16:30:34  <Stablean> <Sylf> just because :)
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16:31:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, and don't do anything with oil wells.  They'll dry up.
16:31:29  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol crap
16:31:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> that  was my plan
16:31:37  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol
16:33:02  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Phil
16:33:59  <Stablean> *** Phil has started a new company (#4)
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16:44:11  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> HI
16:44:14  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
16:44:17  <Stablean> <Phillip> hi
16:44:27  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
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17:16:32  <Sylf> Woodbutcher, read this page too before you go on too far:
17:16:47  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> I read it
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17:17:01  <Stablean> <zalupen> wtf wht sheep so much money used
17:17:12  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> am I still doing it wrong?
17:17:38  <Sylf> I thought you were even avoiding those simple 1-tile jogs too
17:18:00  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> I thought I was
17:18:13  <Sylf> you don't have to avoid those.
17:18:42  <Sylf> So, you were making things harder on you than it needs to be
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17:30:28  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be backe
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17:30:36  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya
17:44:50  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i thought taking stuff from the same industry was frowned upon?
17:45:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> where?
17:45:32  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> moriguchi
17:47:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> Yes it is. You could politely ask zalupen to remove
17:49:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> I think only the best 2 stations by rating will get cargo
17:49:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> so if you have a grain station ...
17:51:18  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well I didn't do grain cause I was gonna build a seperate platform but ran out of cash
17:52:16  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> but i think i had my livestock station first
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18:20:17  <Stablean> <amp01> Hi!
18:20:23  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
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18:36:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> WB you earn 50K + zalupen around 6K from those stations
18:37:09  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yay me! :)
18:37:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> Fast & regular is best
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18:44:16  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> wb
18:44:22  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks
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19:55:36  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh come on
19:55:43  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> now he's taking my goods
19:58:13  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> woodbutcher  doo   u  whot  me to  call for  a admin
19:58:39  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well is that allowed or against the rules?
19:59:50  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem  i   thinke  its  in the    rules
20:00:10  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> jam35
20:00:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
20:00:39  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> is  this  stiling
20:00:54  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> see my  sign  jam35
20:01:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes indeed
20:01:11  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
20:01:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> call the internet police
20:01:29  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
20:01:47  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> how ?
20:02:13  <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game
20:02:24  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi sylf
20:02:33  <minisylf> !players
20:02:35  <Stablean> minisylf: Client 76 is Sylf, a spectator
20:02:35  <Stablean> minisylf: Client 72 (Dark Blue) is happy tran sport, in company 1 (happy tran sport Transport)
20:02:35  <Stablean> minisylf: Client 51 (Orange) is Woodbutcher, in company 2 (WB Soon To Be Sold Co.)
20:02:35  <Stablean> minisylf: Client 53 (Red) is Jam35, in company 3 (Jam35 Transport)
20:02:36  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb  sylf
20:03:00  <minisylf> !rcon move 76 6
20:03:00  <Stablean> minisylf: you are not allowed to use !rcon
20:03:15  *** minisylf is now known as Sylf
20:03:47  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> are you the person to ask about someone infringing on your network?
20:04:49  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> woddbutcher   i  will  call  for  a  admin
20:05:08  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sylf
20:05:19  <Sylf> !rcon move 76 6
20:05:19  <Stablean> Sylf: ‎*** Sylf has joined company #6
20:05:23  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thanks, how do you do that, just so I know
20:06:07  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> nevermind, problem solved
20:06:09  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thanks
20:06:57  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> whats your call on moriguchi?
20:07:35  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's stealing too.
20:08:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> who was there first?
20:08:20  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i think my livestock station was
20:08:46  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> but he might have gotten hooked up faster cause i was nearly out of cash
20:09:04  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> so i'm not sure
20:09:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> brb
20:09:33  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving)
20:12:37  <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game
20:15:21  <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined spectators
20:15:29  <Stablean> <Sylf> now, the next question is, who made this company...
20:15:57  <Sylf> was it zalupen?
20:16:03  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yes
20:16:05  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yes i think so
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20:20:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> Finally got the overflow to do what I wanted
20:20:40  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cool where?
20:20:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> Machida
20:21:14  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> factory drop?
20:21:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> Goods pick
20:22:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> Detects if the 3 waiting bays are full
20:22:06  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> sorry meant that just read the wrong name
20:22:07  <Sylf> why the extra pbs?
20:22:21  <Sylf> are they really needed?
20:22:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> reversed PBS?
20:22:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> extra waiting lanes?
20:22:54  <Sylf> yes, reversed pbs
20:23:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> force trains into the waiting bays
20:23:31  <Sylf> i know its pf penalty
20:23:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> asap
20:23:41  <Sylf> but they shouldnt be needed
20:23:58  <Sylf> or... are they?
20:24:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> trains sometimes choose the reverser instead of waiting bay
20:24:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> so the PBS forces them to turn
20:24:49  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> very cool jam, too advanced for me, but it will be fun trying to figure out how it works
20:25:39  <Sylf> the key is to understand two way block signal being red and its effect
20:26:35  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok now I have 3 stopped trains in the waiting bays
20:26:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> notice the combo signals are red
20:27:15  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yep
20:27:45  <Stablean> <Jam35> which gives a red entry signal here from the depot
20:27:59  <Stablean> <Jam35> so overflown trains cannot enter
20:28:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> until...
20:28:16  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> but trains will still enter the overflow
20:28:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes and stack in the depot
20:28:40  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> nice
20:29:23  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> it would be nice if they made a 'signal wire' instead of using track
20:29:34  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> know what i mean?
20:29:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> would require a lot of sprites
20:29:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> esp where tracks overlap
20:30:15  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well use track but just use 1/2 of it
20:30:53  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> probably still the same problem, but it would be much easier (for me) to understand :)
20:30:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> it is possible but difficult
20:31:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> problem is having two tracktypes in the same square
20:31:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> like atm try having maglev and railway diagonal track
20:31:48  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i see
20:32:00  <Sylf> I'm too used to the way it is
20:32:18  <Sylf> changing it would actually confuse me :p
20:32:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> too early for any new tracks
20:32:35  <Stablean> <Jam35> can't demo
20:40:30  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok how do you get a town to accept goods?
20:40:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> grow it to have enough commercial buildings
20:41:19  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> but in order to grow doesn't it need goods?
20:41:29  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> so it's like a catch 22
20:41:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> doesn't need goods to grow
20:41:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> at first
20:42:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> pax and mail
20:42:08  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok thanks
20:42:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> what town?
20:42:29  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> fujisawa or Hadano
20:43:03  <Stablean> <Jam35> click the town name to see the requirements
20:43:26  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah I did that and it said goods required so i was confused
20:43:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> then you can build a station 'somewhere' that will accept goods
20:44:15  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok thanks
20:44:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> ah looks like we have an <invalid cargo> on some buildings
20:45:07  <Stablean> <Jam35> has screwed up the script maybe
20:45:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> query the building next to Hadano south
20:46:10  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hmmm
20:46:20  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> so is that something I did wrong?
20:46:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> no something in the GRFs
20:46:50  <Sylf> no food
20:47:12  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ah
20:48:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> But it is still impossible to build a goods accepting station at Hadano
20:48:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> And impossible to grow
20:48:45  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i hope not :)
20:48:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> Yes catch 22
20:49:11  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ah crap really?
20:49:42  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> fujisawa too?
20:50:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> Fujisawa is growable at least
20:50:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> some buildings say the same thing
20:51:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> Yes as Sylf said, food is missing
20:51:52  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> so they will never grow?
20:51:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> Doesn't explain the goods problem though
20:52:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> Well until food is a requirement for growth
20:52:54  <Sylf> the game script setting and the town building grf may be incompatible
20:53:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> Pax and mail in sufficient numbers will grow the town
20:53:23  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok
20:53:27  <Stablean> <Jam35> but eventually it will need food
20:53:34  <Sylf> no
20:53:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> that doesn't exist here
20:53:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> No?
20:54:02  <Sylf> there's no food requirement unless food cargo is available for the map
20:54:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> Ok but invalid cargo?
20:54:47  <Sylf> that's a known error of the japanese building set
20:55:05  <Sylf> it's always been like that
20:55:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok
20:55:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> well i guess start growing towns and see what happens
20:57:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> Sylf how do you explain, I can 'catch' an entire town with large airport
20:57:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> The town requires goods
20:57:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> But the airport will not accept
20:58:07  <Stablean> <Jam35> Cannot grow it
20:59:15  <Sylf> The goods requirement is made by the game script - it's not a default ottd, not even in this version
20:59:34  <Sylf> and the script's default setting value is set against default town buildings
20:59:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> gotcha
20:59:54  <Sylf> It sees the town's population, and the neighboring town's population size, and set the requirement
21:00:08  <Sylf> Japanese town set has higher population density than default
21:00:42  <Sylf> So, even if the town is big enough for the game script to assess tougher requirement, the town may not have any proper buildings
21:01:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> Yes, so WB Hadano is not an optionn
21:01:09  <Sylf> so, we now know... when we use Japane building set or TTRS, we need to adjust game script settings
21:01:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> TVM :)
21:01:30  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok thanks
21:03:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> You could drop goods at Ishikari ;)
21:03:34  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well yeah but that other guy is in that town
21:03:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> You aren't stealing
21:04:07  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> isnt' it stealing his town?
21:04:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> Personally I would view it as fair but you may have a point
21:05:18  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well since i complained about him I would rather bring them someplace else
21:05:46  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> anyway time for some food, cyas
21:05:47  <Sylf> we've always allowed sharing of towns like that
21:05:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> Amagasaki
21:05:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> k bb
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21:06:02  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb
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21:24:16  <Aselu> !download
21:24:17  <Stablean> Aselu: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
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21:30:48  <Aselu> !download win32
21:30:48  <Stablean> Aselu:
21:31:19  <Aselu> !download win64
21:31:19  <Stablean> Aselu:
21:36:10  <Aselu> !grf
21:36:10  <Stablean> Aselu: (Version 8.0)
21:37:34  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7)
21:37:53  <Mazur> !rcon move 82 255
21:37:53  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
21:37:55  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
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21:41:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> WB WB
21:41:52  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thx
22:06:30  <Aselu> !password
22:07:52  <Aselu> !grf
22:07:52  <Stablean> Aselu: (Version 8.0)
22:07:58  <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game
22:08:01  <Stablean> <Dom> hello
22:08:04  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  dom
22:08:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
22:08:16  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi dom
22:08:27  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things  dom
22:08:33  <Stablean> <Dom> good :)
22:08:35  <Stablean> <Dom> and you?
22:08:42  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good  thanks
22:09:46  <Stablean> <Dom> there's almost nothing better than good old rock n roll and a spliff :)
22:10:08  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
22:11:59  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> u  ar  ver welcume  to  john  me  dom
22:12:13  <Stablean> <Dom> pw?
22:12:31  <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #1
22:12:37  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> transmit the planet shield password now!
22:12:43  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> one...1
22:12:47  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> two....2
22:12:57  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> three...3
22:12:59  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> four...4
22:13:01  <Stablean> <Dom> booom
22:13:11  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> Hey that's the same password i have on my luggage!
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22:20:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> accidentally TFed the water
22:20:13  <Stablean> <Dom> xD
22:20:23  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oops
22:20:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> half my money for a single tile :(
22:25:10  <Stablean> *** Yakor joined the game
22:25:50  <BiG> !date
22:25:50  <Stablean> BiG: 18 May 1962
22:25:57  <BiG> lol what are you noobs playing?
22:26:12  <Stablean> <Dom> lol what are you noob playin?
22:26:16  <Stablean> <Dom> xP
22:27:12  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hiya
22:27:54  <BiG> not XP, im on linux :P
22:28:14  <Stablean> <Dom> thats good im on osx
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22:31:22  <BiG> woo
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22:36:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi?
22:36:06  <Stablean> <Dom> hi
22:36:09  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
22:36:13  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
22:37:03  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotta go for now, cyas
22:37:06  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb
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22:37:10  <Stablean> <Dom> bb
22:37:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi Meech
23:12:35  <Stablean> <Phillip> hi
23:12:35  <Stablean> *** Phillip joined the game
23:12:39  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
23:22:13  <Stablean> <Jam35> gtg bb
23:22:15  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving)
23:22:17  <Stablean> <Dom> bb
23:22:19  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb
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23:39:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hello
23:39:13  <Stablean> <Phillip> hi
23:39:19  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
23:39:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wow go blue team
23:39:32  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
23:39:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> woo
23:40:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> blue team you should really learn how to utilize invisible depots :)
23:41:04  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar  ok
23:41:31  <Stablean> <Dom> meech how come you always talk but never play ;)
23:41:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
23:41:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I played the other night with Sylf
23:41:54  <Stablean> <Dom> and ps?
23:42:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I havent been on PS in months
23:42:30  <Stablean> <Dom> there's a nice game running atm
23:42:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> really?
23:42:46  <Stablean> <Dom> yep
23:42:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you have to remember though I am all talk and no play
23:43:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ;)
23:43:08  <Stablean> <Dom> :D

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