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11:35:18 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:35:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 11:35:19 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:35:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 11:35:49 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:35:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tneo 11:35:50 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:35:50 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:35:53 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 11:36:10 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 11:36:10 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 11:36:18 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #1 11:36:18 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:36:27 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #2 11:36:49 *** XeryusTC_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:36:49 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:36:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 11:37:01 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 11:37:01 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 11:37:57 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #2 11:37:57 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:38:25 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 11:38:34 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:38:37 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 11:38:37 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 11:41:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem 11:41:56 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> this is the rite save game 11:42:15 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> this notthe rite save game 11:43:58 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 11:44:26 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> this not the right save game 11:50:55 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #2 11:51:17 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:53:37 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 11:53:37 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 12:08:13 *** Dom__ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:14:25 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 12:14:25 *** Dom__ is now known as Dom_ 12:26:29 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:26:29 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 12:26:31 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 12:26:33 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 12:26:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> player u must chanch your name 12:27:06 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 12:47:38 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:47:38 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 12:47:50 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi jam35 12:47:56 <Stablean> <Jam35> hiya 12:48:04 <Stablean> <Jam35> server was down for a while 12:48:13 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:48:13 <Stablean> *** efess joined the game 12:48:25 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> is this the right save game 12:48:27 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #5 12:48:27 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 12:56:11 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> jam 35 doo u thinke this is the right sav game the yer was 1996 when the server whent of line 12:56:37 <Stablean> <Jam35> maybe not 12:56:55 <Stablean> <Jam35> things are the same here though 12:57:39 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep but i hade mor muney when the server whent of line or will 12:58:14 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 13:03:54 <Stablean> *** ARyan has started a new company (#7) 13:03:56 <Stablean> *** ARyan joined the game 13:04:13 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi a ryan 13:04:17 <Stablean> <ARyan> hellooo 13:04:23 <Stablean> <efess> Morning 13:04:30 <Stablean> <Jam35> ello 13:05:00 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> a ryan u can john me if u whot 13:06:03 <Stablean> <ARyan> sure mate, thanks, will try not to mess it up for ya :) 13:06:21 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 13:06:55 <Stablean> *** ARyan has joined spectators 13:07:23 <Stablean> *** ARyan has joined company #2 13:07:31 <Stablean> <ARyan> :) 13:07:35 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #2 13:10:19 <Stablean> <ARyan> k 13:14:57 <Stablean> <ARyan> ok i see 13:15:51 <Stablean> *** efess has left the game (leaving) 13:22:56 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 13:23:16 <Stablean> <Sylf> hiall 13:23:18 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 13:23:24 <Stablean> <ARyan> hi 13:23:38 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 13:30:24 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh woops 13:30:34 <Stablean> <Sylf> I left the inflation on 13:30:52 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> its ok 13:31:18 <Stablean> <ARyan> thats it your fired 13:31:28 <Stablean> <Sylf> (T_T) 13:32:49 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher joined the game 13:32:58 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi guys 13:33:04 <Stablean> <Sylf> hi 13:33:10 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 13:33:20 <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#7) 13:34:20 <Stablean> <ARyan> hi wood 13:34:30 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hiya 14:08:36 <Stablean> *** ARyan has left the game (leaving) 14:11:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hin sylf 14:19:45 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 14:19:47 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 14:19:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi v 14:19:51 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 14:19:53 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 14:20:48 <Stablean> <V453000> hm the tracks on snow do not look exactly nice 14:26:58 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 14:31:16 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#8) 14:31:20 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 14:31:53 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#9) 14:38:12 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 14:38:17 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> Sylf what about pennington forest? 14:39:29 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 14:39:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 14:39:37 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 14:39:39 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi TMC 14:39:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi troy 14:41:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things troy 14:46:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> fine, happy 14:46:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how are you? 14:46:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good thanks 14:50:24 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem 14:51:26 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i dont thinke i can not get this towm to gro 14:53:01 <Stablean> <Jam35> what town? 14:53:15 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> see this 14:53:33 <Stablean> <Jam35> looked there, why not? 14:54:04 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be cous i can not get a nufe stuf to make it gro 14:54:42 <Stablean> <Jam35> you have rails on 2/3 of the map why not? 14:55:04 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> maybe change your pax/mail train to not to do a full load 14:55:18 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 14:55:21 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> not the transfer ones but the other 15:01:40 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving) 15:06:27 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 15:10:59 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotta go, cyas 15:11:03 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb 15:11:09 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has left the game (leaving) 15:51:26 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 15:55:40 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #2 15:56:00 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 16:05:13 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 16:05:13 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:15:42 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:15:42 <Stablean> *** nicfer joined the game 16:15:46 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 16:16:48 <Stablean> <nicfer> hey 16:16:59 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #2 16:16:59 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:17:07 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #2 16:18:25 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> trying to get this town to gro so we can doo goods to it 16:57:11 <Stablean> *** Phillip joined the game 16:57:13 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 16:57:15 <Stablean> <Phillip> hi 16:57:25 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #1 16:58:14 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #2 17:14:40 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (leaving) 17:15:24 <Stablean> *** nicfer joined the game 17:15:32 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #2 17:16:58 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#8) 17:17:02 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 17:17:07 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi pllayer 17:18:03 <Stablean> <nicfer> Rintburg can accept goods, but we need to extend the station 17:18:22 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 17:18:24 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (leaving) 17:19:01 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#8) 17:28:56 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher joined the game 17:29:04 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi wood 17:29:11 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy 17:29:42 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali joined the game 17:29:50 <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi 17:29:52 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 17:29:58 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 17:31:17 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has left the game (leaving) 17:36:05 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined spectators 17:37:14 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #5 17:37:20 <Stablean> <Jam35> Bk 17:37:26 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> wb 17:37:28 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (general timeout) 17:37:28 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 17:37:36 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 17:37:48 <Stablean> <Jam35> ty :DDD 17:38:03 <Stablean> <Jam35> WB Join 17:38:14 <Stablean> <Jam35> ? 17:38:24 <Stablean> <Jam35> Not much goin on tho 17:38:35 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thanks but i'm just gonna watch this map 17:38:45 <Stablean> <Jam35> k 17:39:35 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> you gonna do the farm on the little island, jam? 17:39:45 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cutburg 17:39:52 <Stablean> <Jam35> thought about it 17:39:59 <Stablean> <Jam35> looks expensive atm 17:40:26 <Stablean> <Jam35> it'll probably die half way through 17:40:36 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol 17:41:27 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 17:41:35 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> wb happy 17:41:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 17:46:14 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be backe later 17:46:21 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya 17:46:23 <Stablean> <Jam35> bb 17:46:26 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 17:50:58 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (processing map took too long) 17:50:58 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (connection lost) 17:51:40 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> jam what happened to your trains? 17:51:43 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (processing map took too long) 17:51:43 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (connection lost) 17:52:04 <Stablean> <Jam35> upgrading 17:52:10 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ahh 17:52:31 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (processing map took too long) 17:52:31 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (connection lost) 17:53:25 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (processing map took too long) 17:53:25 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (connection lost) 17:54:53 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 17:54:59 <Stablean> *** Devedse joined the game 17:55:51 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi Sylf 17:55:57 <Stablean> <Sylf> hi 17:56:12 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 17:56:22 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi Devedse 17:56:36 <Stablean> <Devedse> hi 17:56:54 <Stablean> <Devedse> I thought openttdcoop was 1 company and then multiple players :o 17:57:01 <Stablean> <Sylf> wrong server 17:57:15 <Stablean> <Devedse> which one is that then? 17:57:23 <Stablean> <Sylf> This is the experiment/competion/welcome server 17:57:34 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (processing map took too long) 17:57:34 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (connection lost) 17:57:38 <Stablean> <Sylf> The "public server" is on ps.openttdcoop.org 17:57:57 <Stablean> <Sylf> Do read coop's wiki first 18:00:01 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (processing map took too long) 18:00:01 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (connection lost) 18:01:39 <Stablean> <Jam35> That was expensive 18:01:47 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah? 18:01:49 <Stablean> *** Devedse has left the game (leaving) 18:01:53 <Stablean> <Jam35> Now can I afford to keep them running? 18:03:23 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #7 18:05:39 <Stablean> *** Devedse joined the game 18:06:11 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> got a backup at the food processing plant, jam 18:08:27 <Stablean> *** Devedse has left the game (leaving) 18:10:32 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh a backup at cardinghall farm 18:14:24 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 18:24:09 <Stablean> <Jam35> Wish you could specify the borrow/repay amount 18:24:29 <Stablean> <Jam35> 5 million loan = 500 presses to repay! 18:24:43 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> I think you can ctrl click it 18:24:43 <Stablean> <Jam35> @10000 per click 18:25:09 <Stablean> <Jam35> Yeah but that uses all my cash! 18:25:15 <Stablean> <Jam35> Wanted some reserve 18:25:25 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotcha 18:29:32 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh there's rafingfield farm 18:29:52 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> or pluntford 18:31:58 <Stablean> <Jam35> Will need a new SL 18:32:31 *** Chris_Booth[ph] has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:33:29 <Stablean> <Jam35> Can see it blocking Pluntford 18:33:51 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah? 18:34:18 <Stablean> <Jam35> When it gets busier anyway 18:35:04 <Stablean> <Jam35> ok let's see what happens 18:35:18 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol you don't havta just a suggestion 18:35:40 <Stablean> <Jam35> may as well... bored 18:42:02 <Sylf> Jam, you should submit that feature request 18:42:43 <Stablean> <Jam35> really :) 18:42:49 <Stablean> <Jam35> how do I do that? 18:43:35 <Sylf> http://bugs.openttd.org/ 18:43:50 <Stablean> <Jam35> ok I'll check it out ty 18:45:52 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 18:46:23 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi all 18:46:41 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 18:48:52 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy 18:49:02 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> this page has info on it too, jam 18:49:05 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> http://wiki.openttd.org/Requested_features 18:49:35 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> like what's been requested worked on and how to request is at the bottom 18:51:46 <Sylf> that page has only been updated 3 times this year, so don't depend on it 18:52:17 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok 18:53:55 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> maybe throw in a pax station at rafingfield too to help grow the others? 18:56:25 <Stablean> <Jam35> hmm...thinking 18:57:01 <Stablean> <Jam35> well maybe the best way would be to use them as local traffic for plindborough 18:57:19 <Stablean> <Jam35> transfer orders to pluntford 18:57:37 <Stablean> <Jam35> but it's still messy imo 18:57:40 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah you could 18:57:58 <V453000> I dont want to spoil your illusions but I dont think most features are made because someone reads about them in a feature request :) 18:58:24 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> your food requirements are met at pluntford and plindborough bay now 19:01:10 <Stablean> <Jam35> Suppose I should get stuck into the source code then! 19:02:15 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:02:15 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:02:45 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:02:45 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:05:26 <Stablean> *** nicfer joined the game 19:05:59 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #2 19:06:04 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi nicfer 19:06:07 <Stablean> <nicfer> hey 19:06:34 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #2 19:09:18 <Stablean> *** deuterium joined the game 19:20:32 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 19:20:40 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi sylf 19:20:54 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #7 19:24:31 <Stablean> *** deuterium has left the game (leaving) 19:29:24 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok jam I'm guessing that's some sort of timer but care to splain a bit? 19:29:54 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> or counter? 19:30:13 <Stablean> <Jam35> Atm it's a broken flip flop 19:31:04 <Stablean> <Jam35> forgot some entry signals 19:31:38 <Stablean> <Jam35> ok so trains go left/right/left etc 19:32:20 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok but why so it reloads? 19:32:22 <Stablean> <Jam35> Sylf (i'm guessing) 19:32:28 <Stablean> <Sylf> yes 19:32:30 <Stablean> <Jam35> seems to work 19:32:40 <Stablean> <Sylf> twoway is better in cases like that 19:32:47 <Stablean> <Sylf> better enforcement 19:33:05 <Stablean> <Jam35> sure 19:33:31 <Stablean> <Jam35> was planning on swapping between two towns 19:33:42 <Stablean> <Jam35> but not allowed to build station atm 19:33:48 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ah 19:33:50 <Stablean> <Jam35> @ new gronham 19:33:50 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh 19:34:18 <Stablean> <Sylf> two-way needs more in the construct.... 19:35:04 <Stablean> <Sylf> you need another 1-way combo signal behind the two-way signal 19:35:38 <Stablean> <Jam35> no space 19:36:08 <Stablean> <Sylf> so you have to use 1-way, or move around the NOT gates 19:36:30 <Stablean> <Jam35> see how it goes like this 19:36:40 <Stablean> <Jam35> working atm! :) 19:36:56 <Stablean> <Jam35> just messing anyways 19:37:11 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> this is cool but couldn't you accomplish this with orders instead? 19:37:26 <Stablean> <Jam35> yes but that's boring :D 19:37:28 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> like goto town x, drop, goto town y, drop? 19:37:28 <Stablean> <Sylf> you don't always want to use orders 19:38:10 <Stablean> <Jam35> In this scenario you could but as Sylf said not always desirable 19:38:16 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotcha 19:38:30 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> too bad you couldn't just have a flipflop signal 19:38:53 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> or like logic gate signals instead of having to build this 19:39:35 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has started a new company (#8) 19:39:37 <Stablean> <Sylf> sure, if we have programmable signals 19:39:39 <Stablean> <Jam35> well there has been a programmable signal patch but I'm not sure when (if ever) it will get in trunk 19:40:01 <Stablean> <Sylf> I have my doubts on it... 19:40:20 <Stablean> <Jam35> Thought it had been abandoned 19:40:31 <Stablean> <Jam35> unless someone else takes over the project 19:40:33 <Stablean> <Sylf> and if it's implemented, I'm sure there'll be some large dose of exploitation of the feature for sake of being cool.... 19:41:52 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> did you try the tree trick so they will let you build? 19:42:07 <Stablean> <Jam35> Yep treed every tile in the area 19:42:13 <Stablean> <Jam35> twice 19:42:20 <Stablean> <nicfer> doesn't the nightlies have something about new types of signals? 19:42:30 <Stablean> <nicfer> nightlies -> trunk 19:44:49 *** Chris_Booth[ph]_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:45:29 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 19:45:58 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> that help? 19:46:04 <Stablean> <Jam35> I have mediocre rating now 19:46:07 <Stablean> <Jam35> ty maybe 19:46:34 <Stablean> <Jam35> good now :) 19:46:41 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> :) 19:47:59 *** Chris_Booth[ph] has quit IRC 19:48:00 *** Chris_Booth[ph]_ is now known as Chris_Booth[ph] 19:50:02 *** Chris_Booth[ph] has quit IRC 19:54:39 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 19:54:43 <Stablean> <Jam35> biab 20:00:49 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has joined spectators 20:14:27 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #5 20:35:14 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:37:00 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to slickrails 20:37:16 <Stablean> *** slickrails has left the game (leaving) 20:37:39 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#8) 20:37:43 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 20:38:23 <Stablean> <nicfer> has anyone cooped with Dr. Dinosaur? 20:38:33 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to slickrails 20:38:45 <Stablean> <Jam35> nope 20:39:12 <Stablean> *** slickrails has started a new company (#9) 20:39:14 <Stablean> <nicfer> one of his bridges is blocking my way 20:40:03 <Stablean> <Jam35> where? 20:44:33 <Stablean> <nicfer> west of Gadingham 20:46:07 <Stablean> <Jam35> you can get through there 20:46:53 <Stablean> <Jam35> bridge him/her on the left 20:47:19 <Stablean> <Jam35> there is room for one more track under the bridge 20:48:29 <Stablean> <Jam35> Mr. slickrails... 20:48:36 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi are you building yet? 20:49:42 <Stablean> *** slickrails has left the game (leaving) 20:49:44 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh you took out the flipflop 20:51:08 <Stablean> *** LadyGaga has left the game (processing map took too long) 20:51:08 <Stablean> *** LadyGaga has left the game (connection lost) 20:51:20 <Stablean> <Jam35> Yeah it was costing more than it was worth 20:51:33 <Stablean> <Jam35> hardly any pax at those towns 20:51:39 <Stablean> <Jam35> and hard to grow them as well 20:51:41 <Stablean> *** LadyGaga has left the game (processing map took too long) 20:51:41 <Stablean> *** LadyGaga has left the game (connection lost) 20:52:09 <Stablean> *** LadyGaga joined the game 20:53:24 <Stablean> <Jam35> 2 million for a train! 20:53:31 <Stablean> <Jam35> inflation sucks 20:53:33 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> how boring :) 20:53:39 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol just kidding :) 20:53:57 <Stablean> <LadyGaga> a billion bucks to build a bridge :D 20:55:11 <Stablean> <Jam35> was just something to build for a laugh 20:55:37 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah it was cool, first one I saw in action 20:55:56 <Stablean> <Jam35> only the third one I built 20:56:02 <Stablean> <Jam35> just testing really 20:56:57 <Stablean> <Jam35> was playing around offline while the server was down 20:57:08 <Stablean> <Jam35> can be easily extended to 3 choices 20:57:34 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah but then you have a problem 20:57:44 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> what do you call it 20:58:06 <Stablean> <Jam35> ? 20:58:21 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> a flip flop flup? 20:58:31 <Stablean> <Jam35> oh i see :D 20:58:33 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol 21:00:03 <Stablean> <Jam35> It's a kind of 'cool' thing to build 21:00:21 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah 21:00:23 <Stablean> <Jam35> but personally dislike the non profit trains 21:00:51 <Stablean> <Jam35> but who plays for rating anyway? 21:01:09 <Stablean> <Jam35> I'm torn... 21:01:11 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i have to search more but i wouldn't be surprised if someone hasn't built a binary counter or half adder 21:01:49 <Stablean> <Jam35> Pretty sure both have been done 21:02:03 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah i figured 21:02:09 <Stablean> *** LadyGaga has left the game (leaving) 21:03:21 <Stablean> <Jam35> I have seen 7 segment displays too 21:03:35 <Stablean> <Jam35> that's pretty cool 21:03:45 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh interesting, how did they do the light up part with signals? 21:03:52 <Stablean> <Jam35> trains 21:03:54 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> the LEDS 21:03:56 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ah 21:04:07 <Stablean> <Jam35> find it on youtube 21:05:59 <Stablean> *** Methir joined the game 21:06:24 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> that's crazy 21:06:34 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> just watched it on youtube 21:06:53 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i wonder how long it took to build 21:07:15 <Stablean> <Jam35> not sure 1/2 hour :) 21:07:57 <Stablean> *** L 657000 joined the game 21:08:08 <Stablean> <L 657000> hi 21:08:14 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 21:08:30 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 21:08:52 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (leaving) 21:09:25 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi L657000 21:10:35 <Stablean> <L 657000> happy tran sport: train 25 21:11:03 <Stablean> *** Methir has joined company #3 21:11:23 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hanks l657000 21:14:10 <Stablean> *** Dr-Dinosaur joined the game 21:14:30 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> 3,555 million O.o 21:16:42 <Stablean> *** Methir has left the game (general timeout) 21:16:42 <Stablean> *** Methir has left the game (connection lost) 21:17:00 <Stablean> *** Methir joined the game 21:18:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi dr 21:18:51 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Hi. 21:19:01 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> @Can only attach strong/medium/fast engines' 21:19:03 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Hmmm 21:19:13 <Stablean> *** L 657000 has left the game (leaving) 21:19:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> but look at the tran runing cose ferst 21:19:53 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> ouch 21:20:00 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 21:20:02 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I got lots in the bank though :) 21:20:04 <Stablean> *** Methir has joined company #3 21:20:12 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 21:22:27 <Stablean> *** Methir has joined spectators 21:23:45 <Stablean> *** nicfer joined the game 21:24:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> dame i can not ade eneny mor trans or will 21:24:04 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #2 21:24:44 <Stablean> <nicfer> Dr-Dinosaur, can you enlarge a bridge? 21:27:15 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> dr see this won can u make the brige longer 21:27:36 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> where abouts. Thanks for labeling the jams on my ML btw :) 21:27:39 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I'm sorting them out atm 21:30:07 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> the brige not far frome your paper drop of dr 21:30:33 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> The 4 beam one that's 'briliant' :) 21:32:19 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 21:32:21 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi v 21:32:21 <Stablean> <V453000> hello 21:32:33 <Stablean> <Jam35> heelo 21:33:03 <Stablean> <V453000> how do you like the "rather new" wagons for livestock James? :) 21:33:05 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Sorry happy: I'm not sure what you're saying about the bridge? 21:33:25 <Stablean> <Jam35> You already asked me 21:33:31 <Stablean> <V453000> I did? :d 21:33:31 <Stablean> <Jam35> They're great btw 21:33:45 <Stablean> <V453000> some time ago I guess :) 21:33:47 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> need to bee longer dr 21:33:57 <Stablean> <Jam35> Moles and hammers springs to mind :D 21:34:07 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 21:34:37 <Stablean> <Jam35> I asked you about industries the other day 21:34:39 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> longer? why? 21:34:42 <Stablean> <V453000> mhm :) 21:34:44 <Stablean> <Jam35> but you ignored me :) 21:34:59 <Stablean> <V453000> industries are not really progressing at all :p 21:35:02 <Stablean> <Jam35> just wondered on progree 21:35:08 <Stablean> <Jam35> ok 21:35:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> so i can ade mor tran trake 21:35:30 <Stablean> <V453000> I have quite a lot of work and when I do something for openttd, I am writing a long-ass article 21:36:09 <Stablean> <Jam35> sure 21:36:27 <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (leaving) 21:36:43 <Stablean> <Jam35> any clues on the article title perhaps? 21:37:05 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> see this tran trake that i have port a sign on dr 21:37:35 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Ahhhh 21:37:45 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Okay, it's strangling you :p 21:38:40 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks dr 21:38:54 <Stablean> <V453000> he, I actually dont have a title yet 21:39:04 <Stablean> <V453000> but it is about 30+ page long article about making maps, newGRFs, settings etc 21:39:31 <Stablean> <Jam35> Oh ok that's handy 21:39:45 <Stablean> <Jam35> The wiki does need updating 21:39:47 <Stablean> <V453000> for those who read it though :D it isnt short 21:40:09 <Stablean> <Jam35> I wondered how you made the maps with islands 21:40:22 <efess> same here 21:40:25 <Stablean> <V453000> just knowing the generator 21:40:36 <Stablean> <V453000> 50-55% water, smooth 21:40:46 <Stablean> <Jam35> But seemingly made on purpose with the right gaps between to stop bridging 21:40:49 <Stablean> <V453000> rough is also fine 21:41:10 <Stablean> <V453000> well I often adjusted details or even separated some duo-islands in the scenario editor 21:41:20 <Stablean> <V453000> but most is generated of course 21:41:30 <Stablean> <Jam35> Yes have got that far 21:41:41 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Is that cool happy? 21:41:43 <Stablean> <V453000> there was also a lot of maps I have not touched in the editor :) apart from writing the indestructible signs 21:41:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep thanks 21:41:55 <Stablean> <Jam35> Just seemed 'wrong' after i had edited 21:42:09 <Stablean> <Jam35> looked wrong and not in the style of the generator 21:42:27 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I like the universal rail NRG 21:42:30 <Stablean> <Jam35> hard to keep the same style without looking fake 21:42:32 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> It makes the end-game feel more train like :) 21:42:58 <Stablean> <V453000> well yeah you have to know how to edit :p 21:43:13 <Stablean> <Jam35> fair enough :) 21:43:23 <Stablean> <V453000> Universal rail is a cute feature but the maglev trains are drawn specially to fit the wider maglev tracks :p 21:43:45 <Stablean> <V453000> oh the tracks are changed, nevermind 21:44:04 <Stablean> *** efess joined the game 21:44:06 <Stablean> <V453000> well, applies for the original :p 21:44:23 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 21:45:20 <Stablean> <efess> oh nice, are they differnet tracks w/ the same graphic, or all the same? ie. Don't need to convert 21:45:31 <Stablean> <V453000> yes they use the standard rail 21:45:41 <Stablean> <efess> very cool 21:45:43 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Problem is, there is no way to tell the difference 21:45:54 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> You can't force a maglev onto a standard track, although they look the same 21:45:56 <Stablean> <efess> oh there is a difference 21:45:58 <Stablean> <V453000> there is if you make the newgrf settings right :) 21:46:09 <Stablean> <efess> then not cool bah :P 21:46:23 <Stablean> <V453000> if you add a newGRF like swedish rails, then the univ rail still uses original rails, not the swedish ones 21:47:25 <Stablean> <V453000> but yeah the universal rail is really useful :) 21:47:53 <Stablean> *** Methir has left the game (leaving) 21:54:57 <Stablean> <nicfer> OMG mantainance costs for ships are really huge at this point 21:55:15 <Stablean> <nicfer> >11 billions 21:55:19 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep dont doo ships 21:59:51 <Stablean> <Jam35> V please do not take offence 22:00:18 <Stablean> <Jam35> did you ever consider the name Completely unrealistic train set 22:00:41 <Stablean> <Jam35> :D 22:08:00 <Stablean> <Jam35> If you made an industry set and were serious about elephants! ... 22:08:44 <Stablean> <Jam35> INdustry Set ANd Elephants 22:10:54 <Stablean> <Jam35> another tumbleweed blows across... :D 22:11:24 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Yeah... nice new station 22:11:42 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> That's lovely and efficient 22:12:01 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> back, hi guys 22:12:08 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb wood 22:13:34 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh you did the island farm Jam...nice! 22:14:08 <Stablean> <Jam35> something to do... 22:14:15 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yep 22:14:49 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh i like the drop point for it too 22:15:23 <Stablean> <Jam35> It was simpler than making a hub for the entry 22:15:37 <Stablean> <V453000> industry set and elephants :D 22:15:39 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yep 22:16:10 <Stablean> <V453000> hm, I dont believe Cutburg Coal Mine overflow is operational 22:16:22 <Stablean> <Jam35> cos industries are so wacky 22:17:46 <Stablean> <Jam35> Last game I was seeing the lost train escape break 22:17:55 <Stablean> <Jam35> Some settings not set? 22:18:09 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> holy bridges batman! 22:18:15 <Stablean> <V453000> dont ask me :) 22:18:23 <Stablean> <V453000> idk what settings were here 22:18:37 <Stablean> <V453000> in what way did it break? 22:18:43 <Stablean> <Jam35> Not sure 22:18:54 <Stablean> <Jam35> lost train entered depot 22:19:00 <Stablean> <V453000> i assume trains did not escape but just went to the reverser again 22:19:02 <Stablean> <Jam35> would not take the escape 22:19:05 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 22:19:09 <Stablean> <Jam35> and station 22:19:19 <Stablean> <V453000> probably because the train was lost and there was no route 22:19:29 <Stablean> <V453000> because of terminus stations most likely 22:19:39 <Stablean> <Jam35> only removing rails to the station would train take the escape path 22:19:59 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 22:20:33 <Stablean> <V453000> if you were to build perfectly, you should have a pathfinder trap at terminus main stations 22:20:39 <Stablean> <V453000> so it simulates the path as a roro 22:20:49 <Stablean> <V453000> but works like terminus, including invisible depots 22:20:59 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> what's a pathfinder trap? 22:21:21 <Stablean> <V453000> a path which is visible to the pathfinder but cannot be accessed by trains 22:21:31 <Stablean> <V453000> simply because the signal is always red 22:21:37 <Stablean> <V453000> so trains dont go there, but know about the path 22:21:47 <Stablean> <V453000> you can do really weird things with that :) 22:22:18 <Stablean> <Jam35> care to demo the station? 22:22:25 <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#4) 22:22:41 <Stablean> <V453000> right corner of the map 22:24:00 <Stablean> <V453000> this is rather standard 22:25:40 <Stablean> <V453000> k 22:25:46 <Stablean> <V453000> so here we have a random thing 22:27:20 <Stablean> <V453000> lets include that 22:27:22 <Stablean> <V453000> now 22:27:29 <Stablean> <V453000> after pickup 22:27:35 <Stablean> <V453000> trains go to the third station 22:28:02 <Stablean> <V453000> but there is no direct path to it 22:28:14 <Stablean> <V453000> hm 22:28:24 <Stablean> <V453000> okay we are unlucky 22:28:30 <Stablean> <V453000> lets try this 22:28:40 <Stablean> <V453000> there we go 22:28:54 <Stablean> <V453000> trains are efficiently lost now 22:29:00 <Stablean> <V453000> what 22:29:14 <Stablean> <V453000> ah right they just follow orders 22:29:36 <Stablean> <V453000> hm 22:29:38 <Stablean> <V453000> damn 22:29:48 <Stablean> <V453000> I just need to get them to get a bit more lost :> 22:30:19 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 22:30:27 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi troy 22:30:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi happy 22:30:33 <Stablean> <V453000> hello 22:30:39 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi all 22:30:43 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi troy 22:31:21 <Stablean> <V453000> ok 22:31:32 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, that's fine 22:31:34 <Stablean> <V453000> now they are fucked 22:31:38 <Stablean> <V453000> so 22:31:52 <Stablean> <V453000> what we need to do is simulate a path to some station 22:31:59 <Stablean> <V453000> while we want to keep the invisible depot and terminus station 22:32:26 <Stablean> <V453000> so here it is 22:32:28 <Stablean> <V453000> but 22:32:40 <Stablean> *** Dr-Dinosaur has left the game (leaving) 22:32:56 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> who are you talking to? 22:33:02 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wb? 22:33:02 <Stablean> <V453000> so we just dont let them get there 22:33:12 <Stablean> <V453000> some guys who asked for stuff :d 22:33:15 <Stablean> <V453000> :p 22:33:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hehe, okay :) 22:34:21 <Stablean> <V453000> questions? :) 22:34:47 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has started a new company (#8) 22:35:27 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> no i think i got it, thanks 22:36:09 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> afk again 22:36:11 <Stablean> <V453000> all you need to know is that trains do not see a path through dead end (terminus) and that red 2way makes trains go anywhere but not there 22:36:21 <Stablean> <V453000> rest should make sense 22:36:35 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has joined spectators 22:36:51 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 22:37:39 <Stablean> <efess> interesting. Never ran into the problem, but good to know this solution 22:38:05 <Stablean> <V453000> it has some very special uses, not just this solution 22:39:18 <Stablean> <V453000> you can for example give trains only one order and direct them towards there, using those pathfinder traps. Basically just fooling trains, which means that all trains serve the same purpose and go there, where you tell them they are needed. Which in total means some sort of self-regulation. A network which is able to adjust itself 22:40:05 <Stablean> <V453000> the order is never reached in that case. 22:40:38 <Stablean> <V453000> @@srnw should include some of that but I am not sure how far outdated that article is. 22:40:38 <Webster> srnw: Self-regulating Network, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/SRNW 22:40:43 <Stablean> <V453000> archives should provide better overview 22:41:00 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you could make a review, V 22:41:02 <Stablean> <Jam35> Some of that stuff makes my head hurt :) 22:41:32 <Stablean> <V453000> my day doesnt have 80 hours 22:41:40 <Stablean> <V453000> and anyone can make such review as well :) 22:42:15 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you know, I mean a review as a re-visit + expansion, right 22:42:17 <Sylf> I should update that srnw page 22:42:53 <Stablean> <V453000> the unreachable waypoint is pretty much ultimate solution to all older ways of SRNW 22:42:59 <Stablean> <V453000> not much to expand there 22:43:17 <Stablean> <V453000> for pure self regulating networks that is of course 22:43:43 <V453000> Sylf: yeah that would be nice :) 22:44:05 <Stablean> <V453000> hm 22:44:28 <Stablean> <V453000> might be a good idea to have a sort of junctionary of games 22:44:42 <Stablean> <V453000> with described kinds and progress of the topic 22:45:06 <Stablean> <V453000> if done well, it is relatively easy to maintain 22:45:32 <Stablean> <V453000> but it basically means writing it all :) 22:45:50 <Stablean> <V453000> while making a good navigation menu between articles might do a similar thing 22:46:40 <Stablean> <V453000> AND it is all in the fucking archives :D 22:46:51 <Stablean> <V453000> perhaps just categories for archive would be great 22:47:01 <Stablean> <V453000> that might actually be especially effective solution 22:47:33 <V453000> !rcon reset_company 4 22:47:34 <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted. 22:49:43 <Stablean> <V453000> hm 22:49:49 <Stablean> <Jam35> lol that was awesome 22:50:03 <Stablean> <V453000> on the other hand for example a refit game can have a self regulating SL 22:50:13 <Stablean> <V453000> where could be a key feature used 22:50:32 <Stablean> <V453000> but you dont put that into SRNW game class just because there is that one small thing 22:51:46 <Stablean> <V453000> hell thats details for the srnw page 22:55:08 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (leaving) 22:58:06 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #2 22:58:46 <Stablean> <Jam35> gtg bfn 22:58:49 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 23:04:14 <Stablean> *** efess has left the game (general timeout) 23:04:14 <Stablean> *** efess has left the game (connection lost) 23:11:27 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bit tired 23:29:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 23:31:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> so got to woch the muney in this game 23:35:27 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined spectators 23:35:33 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #2 23:40:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 23:46:42 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)