Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 6th October 2012:
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11:41:41  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem
11:41:56  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> this  is  the rite   save  game
11:42:15  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> this  notthe  rite  save  game
11:43:58  <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.)
11:44:26  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> this  not the  right  save game
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12:26:58  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> player  u   must  chanch  your  name
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12:47:50  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  jam35
12:47:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> hiya
12:48:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> server was down for a while
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12:48:25  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> is  this  the  right  save  game
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12:56:11  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> jam 35  doo  u  thinke  this  is the  right   sav  game  the  yer  was  1996  when  the  server   whent  of  line
12:56:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> maybe not
12:56:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> things are the same here though
12:57:39  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep  but  i  hade  mor  muney  when  the  server  whent  of  line or  will
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13:04:13  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  a  ryan
13:04:17  <Stablean> <ARyan> hellooo
13:04:23  <Stablean> <efess> Morning
13:04:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> ello
13:05:00  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> a  ryan    u  can  john  me  if  u  whot
13:06:03  <Stablean> <ARyan> sure mate, thanks, will try not to mess it up for ya :)
13:06:21  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
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13:07:31  <Stablean> <ARyan> :)
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13:10:19  <Stablean> <ARyan> k
13:14:57  <Stablean> <ARyan> ok i see
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13:23:16  <Stablean> <Sylf> hiall
13:23:18  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
13:23:24  <Stablean> <ARyan> hi
13:23:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
13:30:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh woops
13:30:34  <Stablean> <Sylf> I left the inflation on
13:30:52  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> its ok
13:31:18  <Stablean> <ARyan> thats it your fired
13:31:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> (T_T)
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13:32:58  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi guys
13:33:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> hi
13:33:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
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13:34:20  <Stablean> <ARyan> hi wood
13:34:30  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hiya
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14:11:48  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hin  sylf
14:19:45  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
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14:19:49  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  v
14:19:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
14:19:53  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
14:20:48  <Stablean> <V453000> hm the tracks on snow do not look exactly nice
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14:38:17  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> Sylf what about pennington forest?
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14:39:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
14:39:37  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
14:39:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi TMC
14:39:58  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  troy
14:41:30  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how  things  troy
14:46:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> fine, happy
14:46:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how are you?
14:46:17  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good  thanks
14:50:24  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem
14:51:26  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i  dont  thinke  i  can  not    get  this  towm  to  gro
14:53:01  <Stablean> <Jam35> what town?
14:53:15  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> see  this
14:53:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> looked there, why not?
14:54:04  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be  cous  i  can not get  a  nufe  stuf  to  make it  gro
14:54:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> you have rails on 2/3 of the map why not?
14:55:04  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> maybe change your pax/mail train to not to do a full load
14:55:18  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
14:55:21  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> not the transfer  ones but the other
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15:10:59  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotta go, cyas
15:11:03  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb
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16:15:46  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
16:16:48  <Stablean> <nicfer> hey
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16:18:25  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> trying to get this  town to  gro  so we  can  doo  goods   to  it
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16:57:13  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
16:57:15  <Stablean> <Phillip> hi
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17:17:07  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  pllayer
17:18:03  <Stablean> <nicfer> Rintburg can accept goods, but we need to extend the station
17:18:22  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
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17:29:04  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi wood
17:29:11  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy
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17:29:50  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
17:29:52  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
17:29:58  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
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17:37:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> Bk
17:37:26  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> wb
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17:37:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> ty :DDD
17:38:03  <Stablean> <Jam35> WB Join
17:38:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> ?
17:38:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> Not much goin on tho
17:38:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thanks but i'm just gonna watch this map
17:38:45  <Stablean> <Jam35> k
17:39:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> you gonna do the farm on the little island, jam?
17:39:45  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cutburg
17:39:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> thought about it
17:39:59  <Stablean> <Jam35> looks expensive atm
17:40:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> it'll probably die half way through
17:40:36  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol
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17:41:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> wb happy
17:41:41  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks
17:46:14  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be  backe  later
17:46:21  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya
17:46:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> bb
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17:51:40  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> jam what happened to your trains?
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17:52:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> upgrading
17:52:10  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ahh
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17:55:51  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi Sylf
17:55:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> hi
17:56:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
17:56:22  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi Devedse
17:56:36  <Stablean> <Devedse> hi
17:56:54  <Stablean> <Devedse> I thought openttdcoop was 1 company and then multiple players :o
17:57:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> wrong server
17:57:15  <Stablean> <Devedse> which one is that then?
17:57:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> This is the experiment/competion/welcome server
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17:57:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> The "public server" is on
17:57:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> Do read coop's wiki first
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18:01:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> That was expensive
18:01:47  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah?
18:01:49  <Stablean> *** Devedse has left the game (leaving)
18:01:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> Now can I afford to keep them running?
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18:06:11  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> got a backup at the food processing plant, jam
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18:10:32  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh a backup at cardinghall farm
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18:24:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> Wish you could specify the borrow/repay amount
18:24:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> 5 million loan = 500 presses to repay!
18:24:43  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> I think you can ctrl click it
18:24:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> @10000 per click
18:25:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> Yeah but that uses all my cash!
18:25:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> Wanted some reserve
18:25:25  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotcha
18:29:32  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh there's rafingfield farm
18:29:52  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> or pluntford
18:31:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> Will need a new SL
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18:33:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> Can see it blocking Pluntford
18:33:51  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah?
18:34:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> When it gets busier anyway
18:35:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok let's see what happens
18:35:18  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol you don't havta just a suggestion
18:35:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> may as well... bored
18:42:02  <Sylf> Jam, you should submit that feature request
18:42:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> really :)
18:42:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> how do I do that?
18:43:35  <Sylf>
18:43:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok I'll check it out ty
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18:46:23  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  all
18:46:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
18:48:52  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy
18:49:02  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> this page has info on it too, jam
18:49:05  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher>
18:49:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> like what's been requested worked on and how to request is at the bottom
18:51:46  <Sylf> that page has only been updated 3 times this year, so don't depend on it
18:52:17  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok
18:53:55  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> maybe throw in a pax station at rafingfield too to help grow the others?
18:56:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> hmm...thinking
18:57:01  <Stablean> <Jam35> well maybe the best way would be to use them as local traffic for plindborough
18:57:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> transfer orders to pluntford
18:57:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> but it's still messy imo
18:57:40  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah you could
18:57:58  <V453000> I dont want to spoil your illusions but I dont think most features are made because someone reads about them in a feature request :)
18:58:24  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> your food requirements are met at pluntford and plindborough bay now
19:01:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> Suppose I should get stuck into the source code then!
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19:06:04  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi nicfer
19:06:07  <Stablean> <nicfer> hey
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19:20:40  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  sylf
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19:29:24  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok jam I'm guessing that's some sort of timer but care to splain a bit?
19:29:54  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> or counter?
19:30:13  <Stablean> <Jam35> Atm it's a broken flip flop
19:31:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> forgot some entry signals
19:31:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok so trains go left/right/left etc
19:32:20  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok but why so it reloads?
19:32:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> Sylf (i'm guessing)
19:32:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> yes
19:32:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> seems to work
19:32:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> twoway is better in cases like that
19:32:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> better enforcement
19:33:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> sure
19:33:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> was planning on swapping between two towns
19:33:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> but not allowed to build station atm
19:33:48  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ah
19:33:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> @ new gronham
19:33:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh
19:34:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> two-way needs more in the construct....
19:35:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> you need another 1-way combo signal behind the two-way signal
19:35:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> no space
19:36:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> so you have to use 1-way, or move around the NOT gates
19:36:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> see how it goes like this
19:36:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> working atm! :)
19:36:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> just messing anyways
19:37:11  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> this is cool but couldn't you accomplish this with orders instead?
19:37:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes but that's boring :D
19:37:28  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> like goto town x, drop, goto town y, drop?
19:37:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> you don't always want to use orders
19:38:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> In this scenario you could but as Sylf said not always desirable
19:38:16  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotcha
19:38:30  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> too bad you couldn't just have a flipflop signal
19:38:53  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> or like logic gate signals instead of having to build this
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19:39:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> sure, if we have programmable signals
19:39:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> well there has been a programmable signal patch but I'm not sure when (if ever) it will get in trunk
19:40:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> I have my doubts on it...
19:40:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> Thought it had been abandoned
19:40:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> unless someone else takes over the project
19:40:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> and if it's implemented, I'm sure there'll be some large dose of exploitation of the feature for sake of being cool....
19:41:52  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> did you try the tree trick so they will let you build?
19:42:07  <Stablean> <Jam35> Yep treed every tile in the area
19:42:13  <Stablean> <Jam35> twice
19:42:20  <Stablean> <nicfer> doesn't the nightlies have something about new types of signals?
19:42:30  <Stablean> <nicfer> nightlies -> trunk
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19:45:58  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> that help?
19:46:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> I have mediocre rating now
19:46:07  <Stablean> <Jam35> ty maybe
19:46:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> good now :)
19:46:41  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> :)
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19:54:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> biab
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20:38:23  <Stablean> <nicfer> has anyone cooped with Dr. Dinosaur?
20:38:33  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to slickrails
20:38:45  <Stablean> <Jam35> nope
20:39:12  <Stablean> *** slickrails has started a new company (#9)
20:39:14  <Stablean> <nicfer> one of his bridges is blocking my way
20:40:03  <Stablean> <Jam35> where?
20:44:33  <Stablean> <nicfer> west of Gadingham
20:46:07  <Stablean> <Jam35> you can get through there
20:46:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> bridge him/her on the left
20:47:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> there is room for one more track under the bridge
20:48:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> Mr. slickrails...
20:48:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi are you building yet?
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20:49:44  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh you took out the flipflop
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20:51:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> Yeah it was costing more than it was worth
20:51:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> hardly any pax at those towns
20:51:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> and hard to grow them as well
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20:53:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> 2 million for a train!
20:53:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> inflation sucks
20:53:33  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> how boring :)
20:53:39  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol just kidding :)
20:53:57  <Stablean> <LadyGaga> a billion bucks to build a bridge :D
20:55:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> was just something to build for a laugh
20:55:37  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah it was cool, first one I saw in action
20:55:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> only the third one I built
20:56:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> just testing really
20:56:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> was playing around offline while the server was down
20:57:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> can be easily extended to 3 choices
20:57:34  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah but then you have a problem
20:57:44  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> what do you call it
20:58:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> ?
20:58:21  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> a flip flop flup?
20:58:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> oh i see :D
20:58:33  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol
21:00:03  <Stablean> <Jam35> It's a kind of 'cool' thing to build
21:00:21  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah
21:00:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> but personally dislike the non profit trains
21:00:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> but who plays for rating anyway?
21:01:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> I'm torn...
21:01:11  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i have to search more but i wouldn't be surprised if someone hasn't built a binary counter or half adder
21:01:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> Pretty sure both have been done
21:02:03  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah i figured
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21:03:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> I have seen 7 segment displays too
21:03:35  <Stablean> <Jam35> that's pretty cool
21:03:45  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh interesting, how did they do the light up part with signals?
21:03:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> trains
21:03:54  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> the LEDS
21:03:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ah
21:04:07  <Stablean> <Jam35> find it on youtube
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21:06:24  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> that's crazy
21:06:34  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> just watched it on youtube
21:06:53  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i wonder how long it took to build
21:07:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> not sure 1/2 hour :)
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21:08:08  <Stablean> <L 657000> hi
21:08:14  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
21:08:30  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
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21:09:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi L657000
21:10:35  <Stablean> <L 657000> happy tran sport:  train 25
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21:11:23  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hanks  l657000
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21:14:30  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> 3,555 million O.o
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21:18:48  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  dr
21:18:51  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Hi.
21:19:01  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> @Can only attach strong/medium/fast engines'
21:19:03  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Hmmm
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21:19:31  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> but  look  at the  tran  runing  cose  ferst
21:19:53  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> ouch
21:20:00  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
21:20:02  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I got lots in the bank though :)
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21:20:12  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
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21:24:02  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> dame  i  can not  ade eneny  mor  trans  or  will
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21:24:44  <Stablean> <nicfer> Dr-Dinosaur, can you enlarge a bridge?
21:27:15  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> dr  see this  won  can u  make  the brige  longer
21:27:36  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> where abouts. Thanks for labeling the jams on my ML btw :)
21:27:39  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I'm sorting them out atm
21:30:07  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> the  brige      not  far  frome  your  paper  drop  of dr
21:30:33  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> The 4 beam one that's 'briliant' :)
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21:32:21  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  v
21:32:21  <Stablean> <V453000> hello
21:32:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> heelo
21:33:03  <Stablean> <V453000> how do you like the "rather new" wagons for livestock James? :)
21:33:05  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Sorry happy: I'm not sure what you're saying about the bridge?
21:33:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> You already asked me
21:33:31  <Stablean> <V453000> I did? :d
21:33:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> They're great btw
21:33:45  <Stablean> <V453000> some time ago I guess :)
21:33:47  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> need to  bee  longer  dr
21:33:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> Moles and hammers springs to  mind :D
21:34:07  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
21:34:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> I asked you about industries the other day
21:34:39  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> longer? why?
21:34:42  <Stablean> <V453000> mhm :)
21:34:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> but you ignored me :)
21:34:59  <Stablean> <V453000> industries are not really progressing at all :p
21:35:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> just wondered on progree
21:35:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok
21:35:30  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> so     i   can  ade  mor  tran  trake
21:35:30  <Stablean> <V453000> I have quite a lot of work and when I do something for openttd, I am writing a long-ass article
21:36:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> sure
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21:36:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> any clues on the article title perhaps?
21:37:05  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> see  this  tran  trake  that  i have  port  a  sign  on  dr
21:37:35  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Ahhhh
21:37:45  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Okay, it's strangling you :p
21:38:40  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks  dr
21:38:54  <Stablean> <V453000> he, I actually dont have a title yet
21:39:04  <Stablean> <V453000> but it is about 30+ page long article about making maps, newGRFs, settings etc
21:39:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> Oh ok that's handy
21:39:45  <Stablean> <Jam35> The wiki does need updating
21:39:47  <Stablean> <V453000> for those who read it though :D it isnt short
21:40:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> I wondered how you made the maps with islands
21:40:22  <efess> same here
21:40:25  <Stablean> <V453000> just knowing the generator
21:40:36  <Stablean> <V453000> 50-55% water, smooth
21:40:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> But seemingly made on purpose with the right gaps between to stop bridging
21:40:49  <Stablean> <V453000> rough is also fine
21:41:10  <Stablean> <V453000> well I often adjusted details or even separated some duo-islands in the scenario editor
21:41:20  <Stablean> <V453000> but most is generated of course
21:41:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> Yes have got that far
21:41:41  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Is that cool happy?
21:41:43  <Stablean> <V453000> there was also a lot of maps I have not touched in the editor :) apart from writing the indestructible signs
21:41:49  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep  thanks
21:41:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> Just seemed 'wrong' after i had edited
21:42:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> looked wrong and not in the style of the generator
21:42:27  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I like the universal rail NRG
21:42:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> hard to keep the same style without looking fake
21:42:32  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> It makes the end-game feel more train like :)
21:42:58  <Stablean> <V453000> well yeah you have to know how to edit :p
21:43:13  <Stablean> <Jam35> fair enough :)
21:43:23  <Stablean> <V453000> Universal rail is a cute feature but the maglev trains are drawn specially to fit the wider maglev tracks :p
21:43:45  <Stablean> <V453000> oh the tracks are changed, nevermind
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21:44:06  <Stablean> <V453000> well, applies for the original :p
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21:45:20  <Stablean> <efess> oh nice, are they differnet tracks w/ the same graphic, or all the same? ie. Don't need to convert
21:45:31  <Stablean> <V453000> yes they use the standard rail
21:45:41  <Stablean> <efess> very cool
21:45:43  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Problem is, there is no way to tell the difference
21:45:54  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> You can't force a maglev onto a standard track, although they look the same
21:45:56  <Stablean> <efess> oh there is a difference
21:45:58  <Stablean> <V453000> there is if you make the newgrf settings right :)
21:46:09  <Stablean> <efess> then not cool bah :P
21:46:23  <Stablean> <V453000> if you add a newGRF like swedish rails, then the univ rail still uses original rails, not the swedish ones
21:47:25  <Stablean> <V453000> but yeah the universal rail is really useful :)
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21:54:57  <Stablean> <nicfer> OMG mantainance costs for ships are really huge at this point
21:55:15  <Stablean> <nicfer> >11 billions
21:55:19  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep  dont  doo  ships
21:59:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> V please do not take offence
22:00:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> did you ever consider the name Completely unrealistic train set
22:00:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> :D
22:08:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> If you made an industry set and were serious about elephants! ...
22:08:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> INdustry Set ANd Elephants
22:10:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> another tumbleweed blows across... :D
22:11:24  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Yeah... nice new station
22:11:42  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> That's lovely and efficient
22:12:01  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> back, hi guys
22:12:08  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb wood
22:13:34  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh you did the island farm Jam...nice!
22:14:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> something to do...
22:14:15  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yep
22:14:49  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh i like the drop point for it too
22:15:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> It was simpler than making a hub for the entry
22:15:37  <Stablean> <V453000> industry set and elephants :D
22:15:39  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yep
22:16:10  <Stablean> <V453000> hm, I dont believe Cutburg Coal Mine overflow is operational
22:16:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> cos industries are so wacky
22:17:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> Last game I was seeing the lost train escape break
22:17:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> Some settings not set?
22:18:09  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> holy bridges batman!
22:18:15  <Stablean> <V453000> dont ask me :)
22:18:23  <Stablean> <V453000> idk what settings were here
22:18:37  <Stablean> <V453000> in what way did it break?
22:18:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> Not sure
22:18:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> lost train entered depot
22:19:00  <Stablean> <V453000> i assume trains did not escape but just went to the reverser again
22:19:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> would not take the escape
22:19:05  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
22:19:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> and station
22:19:19  <Stablean> <V453000> probably because the train was lost and there was no route
22:19:29  <Stablean> <V453000> because of terminus stations most likely
22:19:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> only removing rails to the station would train take the escape path
22:19:59  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
22:20:33  <Stablean> <V453000> if you were to build perfectly, you should have a pathfinder trap at terminus main stations
22:20:39  <Stablean> <V453000> so it simulates the path as a roro
22:20:49  <Stablean> <V453000> but works like terminus, including invisible depots
22:20:59  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> what's a pathfinder trap?
22:21:21  <Stablean> <V453000> a path which is visible to the pathfinder but cannot be accessed by trains
22:21:31  <Stablean> <V453000> simply because the signal is always red
22:21:37  <Stablean> <V453000> so trains dont go there, but know about the path
22:21:47  <Stablean> <V453000> you can do really weird things with that :)
22:22:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> care to demo the station?
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22:22:41  <Stablean> <V453000> right corner of the map
22:24:00  <Stablean> <V453000> this is rather standard
22:25:40  <Stablean> <V453000> k
22:25:46  <Stablean> <V453000> so here we have a random thing
22:27:20  <Stablean> <V453000> lets include that
22:27:22  <Stablean> <V453000> now
22:27:29  <Stablean> <V453000> after pickup
22:27:35  <Stablean> <V453000> trains go to the third station
22:28:02  <Stablean> <V453000> but there is no direct path to it
22:28:14  <Stablean> <V453000> hm
22:28:24  <Stablean> <V453000> okay we are unlucky
22:28:30  <Stablean> <V453000> lets try this
22:28:40  <Stablean> <V453000> there we go
22:28:54  <Stablean> <V453000> trains are efficiently lost now
22:29:00  <Stablean> <V453000> what
22:29:14  <Stablean> <V453000> ah right they just follow orders
22:29:36  <Stablean> <V453000> hm
22:29:38  <Stablean> <V453000> damn
22:29:48  <Stablean> <V453000> I just need to get them to get a bit more lost :>
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22:30:27  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  troy
22:30:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi happy
22:30:33  <Stablean> <V453000> hello
22:30:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi all
22:30:43  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi troy
22:31:21  <Stablean> <V453000> ok
22:31:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, that's fine
22:31:34  <Stablean> <V453000> now they are fucked
22:31:38  <Stablean> <V453000> so
22:31:52  <Stablean> <V453000> what we need to do is simulate a path to some station
22:31:59  <Stablean> <V453000> while we want to keep the invisible depot and terminus station
22:32:26  <Stablean> <V453000> so here it is
22:32:28  <Stablean> <V453000> but
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22:32:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> who are you talking to?
22:33:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wb?
22:33:02  <Stablean> <V453000> so we just dont let them get there
22:33:12  <Stablean> <V453000> some guys who asked for stuff :d
22:33:15  <Stablean> <V453000> :p
22:33:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hehe, okay :)
22:34:21  <Stablean> <V453000> questions? :)
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22:35:27  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> no i think i got it, thanks
22:36:09  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> afk again
22:36:11  <Stablean> <V453000> all you need to know is that trains do not see a path through dead end (terminus) and that red 2way makes trains go anywhere but not there
22:36:21  <Stablean> <V453000> rest should make sense
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22:37:39  <Stablean> <efess> interesting. Never ran into the problem, but good to know this solution
22:38:05  <Stablean> <V453000> it has some very special uses, not just this solution
22:39:18  <Stablean> <V453000> you can for example give trains only one order and direct them towards there, using those pathfinder traps. Basically just fooling trains, which means that all trains serve the same purpose and go there, where you tell them they are needed. Which in total means some sort of self-regulation. A network which is able to adjust itself
22:40:05  <Stablean> <V453000> the order is never reached in that case.
22:40:38  <Stablean> <V453000> @@srnw should include some of that but I am not sure how far outdated that article is.
22:40:38  <Webster> srnw: Self-regulating Network, see also:
22:40:43  <Stablean> <V453000> archives should provide better overview
22:41:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you could make a review, V
22:41:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> Some of that stuff makes my head hurt :)
22:41:32  <Stablean> <V453000> my day doesnt have 80 hours
22:41:40  <Stablean> <V453000> and anyone can make such review as well :)
22:42:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you know, I mean a review as a re-visit + expansion, right
22:42:17  <Sylf>  I should update that srnw page
22:42:53  <Stablean> <V453000> the unreachable waypoint is pretty much ultimate solution to all older ways of SRNW
22:42:59  <Stablean> <V453000> not much to expand there
22:43:17  <Stablean> <V453000> for pure self regulating networks that is of course
22:43:43  <V453000> Sylf: yeah that would be nice :)
22:44:05  <Stablean> <V453000> hm
22:44:28  <Stablean> <V453000> might be a good idea to have a sort of junctionary of games
22:44:42  <Stablean> <V453000> with described kinds and progress of the topic
22:45:06  <Stablean> <V453000> if done well, it is relatively easy to maintain
22:45:32  <Stablean> <V453000> but it basically means writing it all :)
22:45:50  <Stablean> <V453000> while making a good navigation menu between articles might do a similar thing
22:46:40  <Stablean> <V453000> AND it is all in the fucking archives :D
22:46:51  <Stablean> <V453000> perhaps just categories for archive would be great
22:47:01  <Stablean> <V453000> that might actually be especially effective solution
22:47:33  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 4
22:47:34  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
22:49:43  <Stablean> <V453000> hm
22:49:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> lol that was awesome
22:50:03  <Stablean> <V453000> on the other hand for example a refit game can have a self regulating SL
22:50:13  <Stablean> <V453000> where could be a key feature used
22:50:32  <Stablean> <V453000> but you dont put that into SRNW game class just because there is that one small thing
22:51:46  <Stablean> <V453000> hell thats details for the srnw page
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22:58:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> gtg bfn
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23:04:14  <Stablean> *** efess has left the game (connection lost)
23:11:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bit tired
23:29:58  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
23:31:49  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> so  got  to    woch the  muney  in this  game
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23:40:58  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
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