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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 13th December 2012:
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02:03:18  <Stablean> <V453000> o/
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02:03:22  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> \o
02:04:01  <Stablean> <V453000> I knew why I make 15 islands :D
02:04:08  <Stablean> <V453000> 15 companies now :D
02:04:11  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> :P
02:04:30  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> you never know when the game turns out popular
02:05:32  <Stablean> <V453000> well most of the companies are people who visit regularly
02:06:02  <Stablean> <V453000> have you seen the slugs in action yet?
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02:06:19  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> no.  I've only visited the PS while it's paused
02:06:21  <Stablean> <Dom> hello
02:06:27  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
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02:08:14  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont understand why doesnt happy learn from his games
02:08:16  <Stablean> <Dom> idk
02:08:22  <Stablean> <Dom> i think he doesnt want to
02:09:10  <Stablean> <V453000> well that is his choice to make
02:09:36  <Stablean> <V453000> I just find it weird, since he plays every single game here
02:10:26  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think there is anyone with anywhere close game presence as he does, I really cant remember any game where he wouldnt have a company
02:10:36  <Stablean> <Dom> yep
02:14:22  <Stablean> <V453000> Sylf introducing new style?
02:14:33  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> not really
02:14:55  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> just killing a few hours here
02:15:49  <Stablean> <V453000> well I will be going
02:15:51  <Stablean> <V453000> cya
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02:16:02  <Stablean> <Dom> gn8
02:30:32  <Stablean> <Dom> btw you can have my company on that island :)
02:30:54  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> which one is that?
02:31:04  <Stablean> <Dom> green
02:31:23  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> ok
02:31:43  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> thanks.  I'll take it then.
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02:41:17  <Stablean> <Dom> may i have some money?
02:42:11  <Stablean> <Dom> wow :D
02:42:13  <Stablean> <Dom> tghanks :D
02:42:17  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> yup.
02:44:31  <Sylf[JP]> !rcon reset_company 14
02:44:31  <Stablean> Sylf[JP]: you are not allowed to use !rcon
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02:45:05  <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 14
02:45:05  <Stablean> Sylf: Company deleted.
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02:59:55  <Stablean> <Dom> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3JZa2lq2pU
02:59:55  <Webster> Title: Eric Clapton & B.B. King- Three O'Clock Blues, Length: 8m 37s, Views: 691631, Likes: 3062
03:00:06  <Stablean> <Dom> perfect song for the night time :)
03:00:09  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> :P
03:08:04  <Stablean> <Dom> gn8
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10:15:35  <Stablean> <blackii7> hey
10:15:41  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hia
10:16:43  <Stablean> <blackii7> did you swap all the trains to regular rail?
10:16:57  <Stablean> <Dixon296> to maglev
10:17:03  <Stablean> <blackii7> oh
10:17:17  <Stablean> <davis> you got some jam
10:17:17  <Stablean> <davis> :E
10:17:29  <Stablean> <Dixon296> no i dont
10:17:32  <Stablean> <davis> ah nevermind
10:17:35  <Stablean> <Dixon296> i stopped them
10:17:37  <Stablean> <davis> yeah my bad
10:17:43  <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
10:18:45  <Stablean> <blackii7> btw dixon the way i added more stations was correct right?
10:18:56  <Stablean> <Dixon296> were
10:19:22  <Stablean> <blackii7> to the steel mill and great hudington woods
10:19:36  <Stablean> <blackii7> the way i added the third platform
10:19:58  <Stablean> <Dixon296> er i will check when i finish this
10:20:02  <Stablean> <blackii7> k
10:25:57  <Stablean> <blackii7> pax?
10:26:07  <Stablean> <Dixon296> passangers
10:26:17  <Stablean> <blackii7> i see
10:26:35  <Stablean> <Dixon296> and the other station dosent accept them
10:26:46  <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh it does sorry
10:26:50  <Stablean> <blackii7> it does for no reason
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10:26:58  <Stablean> <blackii7> it's really weird
10:28:30  <Stablean> <Dixon296> lol steel  mill accepts pax
10:28:36  <Stablean> <blackii7> yep
10:28:40  <Stablean> <blackii7> i was all like whaaaaaaaaaaat
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10:40:31  <Stablean> <blackii7> did you do that dixon?
10:40:37  <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea
10:40:39  <Stablean> <blackii7> k
10:40:55  <Stablean> <Dixon296> looks better
10:41:01  <Stablean> <blackii7> yep
10:41:23  <Stablean> <blackii7> the unirail looks like normal rail
10:42:41  <Stablean> <blackii7> there are signals there
10:43:03  <Stablean> <Dixon296> like that
10:43:37  <Stablean> <blackii7> then i  need to make some adjustments
10:44:27  <Stablean> <blackii7> yep
10:44:50  <Stablean> <blackii7> really?
10:56:25  <Stablean> <blackii7> what did you put those rails there for?
10:56:40  <Stablean> <blackii7> at !here
10:59:26  <Stablean> <blackii7> ok
11:02:31  <Stablean> <blackii7> i didn't know there was a wiki
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11:54:26  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hey V
11:54:29  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
11:54:36  <Stablean> <chester> hi
11:54:59  <Stablean> <V453000> try autoreplacing to slugs ;)
11:55:09  <Stablean> <V453000> dont forget the wagon removal though
11:56:19  <Stablean> <chester> hi
11:56:29  <Stablean> <Dixon296> lol
11:56:31  <Stablean> <chester> who
11:56:37  <Stablean> <chester> where
11:57:03  <Stablean> <V453000> you have 2 engines per train you cant really use slugs
11:58:06  <Stablean> <chester> dixom wagon removal on
11:58:20  <Stablean> <Dixon296> i know im on it :P
11:58:20  <Stablean> <chester> you fialin
11:58:50  <Stablean> <V453000> just replace back to normal short trains
11:58:52  <Stablean> <V453000> and do it again
11:58:54  <Stablean> <V453000> :P
11:58:57  <Stablean> <Dixon296> i am
11:59:23  <Stablean> <chester> 2 headed seems better than 1 slug
12:00:47  <Stablean> <V453000> ofc it is technically better
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12:01:32  <Stablean> <V453000> hm, Dixon if you set the default servicing interval for trains from the current 150 days to something like 5 days, they would autoreplace again without forcing them ;)
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12:02:02  <Stablean> <V453000> o/
12:02:08  <Stablean> <chester> hi
12:02:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> \o
12:02:22  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
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12:10:48  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#14)
12:11:48  <Stablean> <V453000> hm the cargo slugs have CL1.5
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12:19:51  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi all
12:20:02  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
12:20:05  <Stablean> <chester> hi
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12:23:11  <Stablean> <Dixon296> i like the slugs V :)
12:23:41  <Stablean> <chester> bad taste
12:23:44  <Stablean> <Dixon296> :P
12:24:02  <Stablean> <V453000> slugs rule
12:24:09  <Stablean> <Dixon296> yup
12:27:32  <Stablean> <V453000> :DDD
12:27:43  <Stablean> <V453000> a dude posts a screenshot of a big PBS X station
12:27:49  <Stablean> <V453000> I say make multiple X-es
12:28:03  <Stablean> <V453000> he says "omg I dont want bridges on station entrance for aesthetical reasons"
12:28:13  <Stablean> <V453000> I managed not to call him a retard
12:28:19  <Stablean> <Dixon296> LOL
12:29:05  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think I have any chance of understanding those people
12:30:33  <Stablean> <Dixon296> i think he is right massive X-es rule :PPP
12:32:19  <Stablean> <V453000> regardless of what rules, refusing bridges because fuck logic is just downright dumb :)
12:32:42  <Stablean> <V453000> admittedly I sometimes do tunnel only junctions but that is a whole different story
12:33:36  <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea tunnels rule
12:33:42  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hehehe
12:35:01  <Stablean> <chester> it seems bridge length doesnt count tips?
12:35:20  <Stablean> <chester> i can build 10 squares length bridges
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12:37:32  <Stablean> <V453000> yes it counts only the inside
12:37:38  <Stablean> <V453000> bridge heads arent in it
12:38:56  <Stablean> <V453000> well Green company did for sure get some changes :D
12:38:58  <Stablean> <chester> i'd make a jump to my neighbor island if i knew
12:39:28  <Stablean> <iTKerry|RV-Gamer> lol
12:39:34  <Stablean> <iTKerry|RV-Gamer> yellow company
12:39:56  <Stablean> <V453000> yellow uses just ourright wrong trains
12:42:20  <Stablean> <iTKerry|RV-Gamer> i think that orange need more prio
12:42:54  <Stablean> <V453000> sort of yes
12:43:32  <Stablean> <V453000> he is trying, but he doesnt understand merging in general too well yet
12:43:40  <Stablean> <iTKerry|RV-Gamer> :\
12:43:59  <Stablean> <V453000> trying is good :)
12:44:13  <Stablean> <iTKerry|RV-Gamer> he must visit openttdcoop.org and read more information about prio
12:44:15  <Stablean> <iTKerry|RV-Gamer> ;)
12:44:29  <Stablean> <V453000> this isnt about a prio
12:44:36  <Stablean> <V453000> this is about the general system of a merger
12:44:43  <Stablean> <iTKerry|RV-Gamer> y
12:45:25  <Stablean> <iTKerry|RV-Gamer> pink is so funny)
12:46:00  <Stablean> <Dixon296> pink is good
12:46:46  <Stablean> <Dixon296> give me a second happy
12:46:50  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
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12:48:31  <Stablean> <iTKerry|RV-Gamer> nice SLH red
12:48:37  <Stablean> <V453000> I think you should demonstrate your awesomeness before criticizing others iTKerry|RV-Gamer ;)
12:48:47  <Stablean> <Dixon296> here here
12:49:25  <Stablean> <V453000> is that even a SLH?
12:49:35  <Stablean> <Dixon296> were
12:49:41  <Stablean> <V453000> looks more like a wtfhybrid of bbh and slh to me
12:49:47  <Stablean> <iTKerry|RV-Gamer> i think this is SLH + MSH :D
12:50:02  <Stablean> <V453000> msh probably not as there is no main station even close :)
12:50:36  <Stablean> <Dixon296> its happy trying to build a hub
12:50:42  <Stablean> <Dixon296> still learning
12:50:45  <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
12:50:51  <Stablean> <iTKerry|RV-Gamer> it is normal ;)
12:51:14  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> trying  and   lerning  to  doo  that
12:53:40  <Stablean> <Dixon296> fixed
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12:56:26  <Stablean> <Dixon296> yeaa for GT
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12:58:20  <Stablean> <V453000> Sylf doing some Japanese Torpedo strikes or what? :D
12:58:50  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> :P nah, just vacationing with bullet trains
12:59:28  <Stablean> <V453000> slugs aint no bullet trains! :(
13:00:31  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> they travel at bullet train speed
13:00:37  <Stablean> <Sylf[JP]> good enough for me!
13:00:39  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
13:01:34  <Stablean> <V453000> im wondering if people like "omg no bridges at station entrance" are just pure lazy and have a nice name of it "aesthetics", or "realism" or whatnot, or if they are really just dumb
13:02:08  <Stablean> <V453000> is there even any documentation on how to build "like that" ? :d
13:02:18  <Stablean> <V453000> like our wiki for reasonable stuf e.g.
13:02:24  <Stablean> <davis> :P
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13:03:37  <Stablean> <V453000> chester: !this PBS signal breaks the presignal
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13:06:04  <Stablean> <valis> hi
13:06:07  <Stablean> <V453000> o/
13:06:13  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
13:08:07  <Stablean> <chester> V are u sure? they never failed before
13:08:21  <Stablean> <V453000> of course they didnt because the station never got full
13:08:35  <Stablean> <V453000> stop a few trains inside and see for yourself
13:08:58  <Stablean> <V453000> see?
13:09:04  <Stablean> <chester> yes
13:10:02  <Stablean> <V453000> why do you have a penalty there in the first place actually
13:10:40  <Stablean> <chester> tey fill first 3 platforms then wheit for too long while passing to outer ones
13:11:12  <Stablean> <V453000> that means you have poor (no) waiting bays
13:11:22  <Stablean> <V453000> it is better to build places where trains can wait
13:11:24  <Stablean> <V453000> instead of combo signals
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13:12:18  <Stablean> <chester> this is not desirable since they may wait in front of fork here
13:12:28  <Stablean> <V453000> is that a problem?
13:12:34  <Stablean> <V453000> it would make the station work faster in total
13:13:06  <Stablean> <chester> this station is fast, i only made it balanced
13:13:17  <Stablean> <V453000> ?
13:13:20  <Stablean> <V453000> what do you mean by that
13:13:50  <Stablean> <chester> it had first 3 platforms filled asap
13:14:06  <Stablean> <V453000> ah x_x omg the "balanced" illusion of having stuff spread out
13:14:28  <Stablean> <V453000> to start using that word was one of the biggest mistakes in our terminology
13:15:18  <Stablean> <chester> ok i'll say spread the stream evenly
13:15:29  <Stablean> <V453000> that is exactly what balancing is not about
13:15:51  <Stablean> <V453000> the general logic of things is to provide choices
13:15:58  <Stablean> <V453000> if choices are fast enough, you dont need any penalties
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13:17:39  <V453000> very much like that http://blog.openttdcoop.org/files/blog/V453000/ABR07_buffer_01.png
13:20:18  <Stablean> <V453000> anyway, cya
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13:39:29  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
13:39:39  <Stablean> <valis> hi
13:39:49  <Stablean> <davis> hi
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14:02:45  <Stablean> <Dom> hello
14:02:59  <Stablean> <davis> hi
14:03:05  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
14:03:19  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  dom
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14:06:58  <Stablean> <Dom> happy
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14:07:04  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
14:07:07  <Stablean> <Dom> you do not understand the point of an slh right?
14:07:46  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> a  slh  is  to  help  the  trans  q
14:07:56  <Stablean> <Dom> no a slh is a side line hub
14:08:03  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar
14:08:17  <Stablean> <Dom> that means primaries are connecetd into a side line hub and never into the main line
14:08:33  <Stablean> <Dom> because if you connect a primary to a ml it will jam
14:08:39  <Stablean> <Dom> like sign !here
14:09:01  <Stablean> <Dom> why do you think i left them sign yesterday that said where to connect into a slh
14:09:07  <Stablean> <Dom> and you did it again xD
14:09:22  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar  ok  i will  fix that
14:09:48  <Stablean> <Dom> so i do not get the point of helping you , if you always do the opposite of what there should be xD
14:14:16  <Stablean> <Dom> i do not get  it, how you are not able to learn from your previous games ...
14:14:23  <Stablean> <Dom> because you always make the same mistakes
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14:14:47  <Stablean> <Dixon296> some people learn slower than others
14:14:53  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer
14:15:08  <Stablean> <Dom> yeah but not if you play every game on welcome for over 3 months
14:16:06  <Stablean> <Dixon296> he is alot better than when he started playing so thats better than nothing
14:16:12  <Stablean> <Dom> true that
14:16:26  <Stablean> <Dom> but i also started a some months ago
14:16:36  <Stablean> <Dom> and i do not make signal mistakes... at least
14:17:24  <Stablean> <Dixon296> he is not you though
14:17:30  <Stablean> <Dom> true that aswell
14:17:42  <Stablean> <Dom> and that's why i try to help him
14:17:48  <Stablean> <Dixon296> he will get there in his own time :)
14:17:58  <Stablean> <Dom> true that
14:17:58  <Stablean> <Dixon296> we all help him
14:18:02  <Stablean> <Dom> i know
14:18:16  <Stablean> <Dom> but i think that some times he ignores that help
14:18:48  <Stablean> <Dixon296> i think it just takes more time to click
14:19:50  <Stablean> <Dixon296> and he is one of the very best at jams :P
14:19:56  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hehehe
14:19:58  <Stablean> <Dom> yD
14:20:00  <Stablean> <Dom> xD
14:20:22  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> not  all  the  tme
14:20:44  <Stablean> <Dixon296> no not all the time
14:21:30  <Stablean> <Dixon296> i think you confuse yourself when expanding the net
14:21:41  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer
14:21:47  <Stablean> <Dom> hmm  there is a connection missing and i do not know where
14:22:08  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i am ok  when  i  start  a game
14:22:10  <Stablean> <Dixon296> you have connections that are not needed alot
14:22:44  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ther  was   a  proberm  whive  sume  farm trans
14:23:25  <Stablean> <Dixon296> that hub in the middle is causing problems aswell
14:23:35  <Stablean> <Dom> which?
14:23:37  <Stablean> <Dixon296> should be BBH
14:23:59  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep it  sord  be
14:24:01  <Stablean> <Dixon296> happy jam slh
14:24:24  <Stablean> <Dixon296> goes to main statin and SL
14:28:38  <Stablean> <Dom> hmmm
14:28:41  <Stablean> <Dom> so many lost trains :(
14:29:23  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i  no  tel me  a bout  it
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14:30:58  <Stablean> <Dom> at least i know which connection is missing now
14:34:57  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem  nop  that  will not  werk  happy
14:46:15  <Stablean> <Dixon296> you got a backwards signal
14:46:21  <Stablean> <Dom> where?
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14:46:40  <Stablean> <Dixon296> there :0
14:46:43  <Stablean> <Dixon296> :)
14:46:54  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> got  it
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14:48:44  <Stablean> <Dom> xD
14:54:44  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok  now ther  shord  be  no  mor  lost  trans  now
14:58:30  <Stablean> <Dom> it was me !!
14:58:32  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
14:58:48  <Stablean> <Dixon296> haha now who makes mistakes :PPPP
14:58:58  <Stablean> <Dom> it was no mistake
14:59:04  <Stablean> <Dom> i did it on purpouse :D
14:59:26  <Stablean> <Dixon296> you should be locked up for that :P
14:59:54  <Stablean> <Dom> can someone get rid of gubourne woods station + all the trains?
15:00:20  <Stablean> <Dixon296> k
15:00:23  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
15:02:05  <Stablean> <Dixon296> done
15:14:51  <Stablean> <Dom> so i gtgo
15:14:55  <Stablean> <Dom> i left you a sign
15:14:58  <Stablean> <Dom> try to fix it :)
15:15:04  <Stablean> <Dixon296> bb
15:15:06  <Stablean> <Dom> cya later
15:15:08  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb
15:15:14  <Stablean> <Dom> sign is called something wrong
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15:15:24  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer  i  see  it
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15:28:41  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> hello?
15:28:49  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
15:29:05  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i know there is no terra forming allowed
15:29:19  <Stablean> <Dixon296> says who
15:29:21  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> but can i build a connection to a different island?
15:29:31  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> the rules ... no "big terraforming"
15:29:45  <Stablean> <Dixon296> no altering the landscape
15:30:03  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> meaning?
15:31:01  <Stablean> <Dixon296> try to keep it looking as natual as pos
15:31:43  <Stablean> <Dixon296> you could make tiny islands to bridge to
15:32:41  <Stablean> <Dixon296> and you carnt afford anyway
15:39:28  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i need iron ore ... or oil :(
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15:45:43  <Stablean> <blackii7> hi
15:45:50  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> hi
15:46:14  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hey partner :)
15:46:36  <Stablean> <blackii7> hay
15:46:42  <Stablean> <blackii7> whatcha doin?
15:46:56  <Stablean> <Dixon296> expanding
15:47:04  <Stablean> <blackii7> cool
15:47:46  <Stablean> <blackii7> you stopped all these trains right?
15:48:00  <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea
15:48:08  <Stablean> <blackii7> k just making sure
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15:55:43  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks for  helping  whive  my  tran  net  werk dixon
15:56:01  <Stablean> <Dixon296> np are you ok now
15:56:07  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
15:56:13  <Stablean> <Dixon296> cool
15:56:29  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> its  all  ruing  grate  now
15:57:15  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i see  u  trying  to  get  that town  to  gro
15:58:13  <Stablean> <Dixon296> what town
16:03:19  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> the    town  u  got  bus  on  it
16:03:31  <Stablean> <blackii7> what hendingworth?
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16:32:47  <Stablean> <blackii7> happy could you help me for a sec?
16:33:02  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
16:33:45  <Stablean> <blackii7> im trying to move goods from my factory to hendingworth the town im growing
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16:34:05  <Stablean> <blackii7> but i can't seem to find a place to put the station
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16:34:53  <Stablean> <blackii7> hey
16:34:59  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
16:38:07  <Stablean> <blackii7> the one with the 3 bus stops
16:38:25  <Stablean> <blackii7> yea that one
16:39:11  <Stablean> <blackii7> i want to move goods there from the factory i have nearby
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16:41:00  <Stablean> <blackii7> which one? the smaller one?
16:41:54  <Stablean> <blackii7> no i don't see it
16:43:32  <Stablean> <blackii7> i think your looking at the wrong factory
16:43:54  <Stablean> <blackii7> i marked the factory with a this factory sign
16:47:34  <Stablean> <blackii7> thanks
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16:54:25  <Stablean> <blackii7> thanks
16:55:35  <Stablean> <blackii7> ounce again thanks alot
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17:00:21  <Stablean> <blackii7> hello
17:00:27  <Stablean> <Player> hello
17:02:47  <Stablean> <blackii7> i think it's supposed to be one word
17:02:57  <Stablean> <blackii7> oh wait nm
17:03:03  <Stablean> <Player> i am not sure
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17:04:10  <Stablean> <blackii7> the easiest way to do it is set your default name in the multiplayer list menu thing
17:04:36  <Stablean> <Player> cool thanks. i've played this game, but never online for some reason
17:05:06  <Stablean> <blackii7> it's  a fun game online i like to coop mostly it's the funest
17:05:20  <Stablean> <blackii7> plus it's good for learning
17:05:38  <Stablean> <Player> :) i'm looking at what others built
17:06:17  <Stablean> <blackii7> i really like the really big crazy one in the middle
17:06:31  <Stablean> <blackii7> wait scratch that in the right
17:06:43  <Stablean> <blackii7> nope left
17:06:45  <Stablean> <Player> what color do you mean?
17:06:47  <Stablean> <blackii7> sorry
17:06:50  <Stablean> <Player> red?
17:06:52  <Stablean> <blackii7> the red one
17:07:15  <Stablean> <blackii7> the orange at the bottom left is cool too
17:07:18  <Stablean> <Player> yeah that's crazy
17:10:36  <Stablean> <blackii7> i think iv'e seriously seen one of the weirdest glitches ever
17:11:11  <Stablean> <blackii7>  i have a steel mill that accepts passengers for no apparent reason
17:11:26  <Stablean> <Player> hm weird
17:11:32  <Stablean> <blackii7> yep
17:12:11  <Stablean> <blackii7> yep it's funny though i feel kinda bad for transporting people to the middle of nowhere
17:12:29  <Stablean> <Player> one way ticket to nowhere
17:13:06  <Stablean> <Player> are you dutch btw? I see purple has some dutch names for stations
17:13:44  <Stablean> <blackii7> nope
17:14:34  <Stablean> <blackii7> im pretty sure all the names are just the standardley generated ones from the town names
17:14:36  <Stablean> <Player> ah I see, its the settings that changed the names to dutch
17:15:00  <Stablean> <Player> it wasnt like that in single player, so that's why I thought someone changed the names
17:15:11  <Stablean> <blackii7> i see
17:15:17  <Stablean> <blackii7> where are you from?
17:15:27  <Stablean> <Player> well, the netherlands!
17:15:45  <Stablean> <blackii7> awesome
17:17:51  <Stablean> <blackii7> you see the really long and thin network of trains at the top right that belong to purple?
17:17:58  <Stablean> <Player> yeah
17:18:04  <Stablean> <blackii7> thats mine
17:18:28  <Stablean> <Player> cool. looks good
17:18:34  <Stablean> <blackii7> thanks
17:19:24  <Stablean> <Player> what's up with the double bridge just outside hendingworth?
17:19:35  <Stablean> <Player> i mean, why is it a double bridge
17:20:49  <Stablean> <blackii7> i think it might be an efficiency thing iv'e seen alot of people do it that specific part was done by happy tran sport he helped me out with that track
17:21:19  <Stablean> <Player> i see
17:21:30  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> its  to  help  the  trans  q
17:21:48  <Stablean> <blackii7> iv'e also seen it in alot of tutorials
17:22:04  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
17:22:22  <Stablean> <blackii7> usually also done with tunnels
17:22:29  <Stablean> <Player> i didn't know that
17:22:31  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
17:23:25  <Stablean> <blackii7> omg that is awesome
17:24:12  <Stablean> <blackii7> if you change the money type the game uses then it both converts your money and the costs of things to the value of that coin
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17:26:32  <Stablean> <Player> i'm leaving aswell. good luck!
17:26:38  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb
17:26:41  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks
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17:29:29  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  jam
17:29:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
17:29:46  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how  things
17:30:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> usual
17:30:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> u?
17:30:29  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good
17:30:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> nice
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17:34:35  <Stablean> <Sturmi> hi
17:34:59  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
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17:36:49  <Stablean> <Sturmi> happy you have stuck trains
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17:37:17  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> tran  nuber
17:37:23  <Stablean> <Sturmi> 122
17:38:01  <Stablean> <Sturmi> a signal behind 122 will help
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17:38:44  <Stablean> <Sturmi> weird mix of signals btw :D
17:42:23  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer  to meney trans    on that bit
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18:16:13  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i need a quick help
18:16:31  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what signals do i need to use at my iron ore ststion
18:16:49  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> the second bridge is to expensive right now
18:18:20  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> anyone here who can help`?
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18:20:17  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
18:20:19  <Stablean> <V453000> dont build the bridge on water
18:21:42  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> but it's hard because on this island there is not more industry ... :(
18:22:40  <Stablean> <V453000> build the bridge
18:22:46  <Stablean> <V453000> so the bridge heads are not on the water
18:23:46  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> which i can't down there becuase the land is not set up for this ... :(
18:23:52  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> or what do you mean?
18:24:06  <Stablean> <V453000> you can
18:24:08  <Stablean> <V453000> .
18:24:15  <Stablean> <V453000> I cant give you any more hints really
18:24:57  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> bridge that is same length and position will cost 5 Mio
18:28:09  <Stablean> <V453000> what dont you understand on the saying "dont build bridge with ends on water" ?
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18:29:24  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
18:29:43  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i think i do understand what you're saying ... but i would have to rebuild the entire station or raise the land on the island
18:30:17  <Stablean> <V453000> 100% sure?
18:30:43  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> or lower the other end .... mhh
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18:31:36  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> could you look at the bridge i'm talking about? please
18:31:46  <Stablean> <V453000> im looking at it all the time
18:31:48  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> there is a sign "lower here"
18:31:51  <Stablean> <V453000> that clearly isnt the way
18:32:01  <Stablean> <V453000> you dont need to modify land there at all
18:33:33  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok ^^ now i got it
18:35:12  <Stablean> <V453000> there you go
18:35:23  <Stablean> <V453000> you dont need the 2way PBS at the station btw
18:35:26  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> this is correct now
18:35:32  <Stablean> <V453000> so you can make the X closer to the station
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18:35:55  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> like this?
18:35:57  <Stablean> <V453000> and the bridge one tile to the left of course
18:36:00  <Stablean> <V453000> 90deg turns wont work
18:36:46  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> thanks
18:37:45  <Stablean> <V453000> yw
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18:42:43  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> since it's used from both ways ... would you add a station-"track" and let theon side use different ones than the other?
18:43:46  <Stablean> <V453000> it works under this traffic so I wouldnt do anythinga as of now
18:43:53  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok
18:44:09  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i'm thankfull for any help or hint i get :)
18:44:33  <Stablean> <V453000> well generally it of course is a lot better to have 2 stations instead of one bidirectional
18:44:42  <Stablean> <V453000> but if it works, ...
18:45:04  <Stablean> <V453000> but if you want hints, start with signals
18:45:16  <Stablean> <V453000> using block signals is a lot better
18:45:34  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> which ones are the block signals?
18:45:36  <Stablean> <V453000> in this particular station PBS is better, but you should have block signals as default
18:45:42  <Stablean> <V453000> the first ones mainly
18:45:52  <Stablean> <V453000> and then there are 3 pre-signals which are a bit advanced block signals
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18:46:19  <Stablean> <V453000> you can have a look which signals do other big companies on this server use
18:46:25  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i did use them all the time but "talib told me not to
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18:46:59  <Stablean> <V453000> yes some people can tell you so, but I strongly advise to try to stay away from PBS
18:47:14  <Stablean> <V453000> they are generally a lot simplier and lazier solution, but dont lead to good results
18:47:20  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what's so bad about them?
18:47:27  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok
18:47:42  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> but use OBS in front of a station ?
18:47:56  <Stablean> <V453000> it is not simple to explain, but they generally are "pseudo-smart" ... which means they try to handle traffic somehow
18:48:14  <Stablean> <V453000> but that is a bit of an illusion as the "real" sollution is through separating the tracks
18:48:22  <Stablean> <V453000> which is more obvious when you use block signals
18:48:30  <Stablean> <V453000> in front of stations, depends
18:48:36  <Stablean> <V453000> usually PBS is just fine there
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18:53:31  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what about "Hatown" is the singaling correct?
18:53:54  <Stablean> <V453000> almost
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18:54:36  <Stablean> <V453000> this is a basic station with a presignal block
18:54:49  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok
18:54:55  <Stablean> <V453000> the entry signal is red if both exit signals are red
18:55:05  <Stablean> <V453000> if at least one exit signal is green, entry is green
18:55:15  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok
18:55:25  <Stablean> <V453000> you can do really seriously crazy things with this, but that later ;)
18:56:57  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> so when i split up the line because of bridges ... i use entry and exeting aswell?
18:57:03  <Stablean> <Surfer2010> or just entering signal?
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