Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 31st December 2012:
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00:01:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> they accelerate pretty slowly tho
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00:12:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> nearly slug time
00:12:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> convert or no? :)
00:12:37  <Stablean> <Dom> i think that would overload the network but worth a try though
00:13:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> you may be right
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00:20:08  <Stablean> <Dom> ups
00:20:12  <Stablean> <Dom> i missed a station xD
00:31:10  <Stablean> <Dom> hmm
00:31:21  <Stablean> <Dom> lets see if my hover buses can do road works
00:32:05  <Stablean> <Dom> ha they can't xD
00:33:03  <Stablean> <Jam35> what's that road reconstruction?
00:33:21  <Stablean> <Dom> if you play against other people
00:33:35  <Stablean> <Dom> then you fuck up their roads for some months so the buses and trams get lost xD
00:33:54  <Stablean> <Dom> see Drahattan
00:33:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> that's what you have done?
00:34:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> no other point to it?
00:34:14  <Stablean> <Dom> yep
00:34:16  <Stablean> <Dom> no
00:34:28  <Stablean> <Dom> oh and the city gets happier
00:35:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> not like reality when everyone moans about damn roadworks
00:35:36  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
00:36:08  <Stablean> <Dom> :( last year i spent 52 mil
00:36:14  <Stablean> <Dom> all of my money is gone xD
00:36:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> want some cash?
00:36:43  <Stablean> <Dom> no thanks :)
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00:41:46  <Stablean> <Dom> loool
00:41:48  <Stablean> <Dom> xD
00:41:51  <Stablean> <Dom> i forgott a line
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00:42:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> ah right :)
00:44:41  <Stablean> <Dom> trains lose some speed with cl 0.5
00:44:56  <Stablean> <Dom> from 133 to 105 km/h
00:45:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> yeah since I upgraded
00:45:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> should only be in one place :)
00:45:39  <Stablean> <Dom> bbh 01
00:45:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> oh two places
00:45:59  <Stablean> <Dom> where is the first?
00:46:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> SLH 02
00:46:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> don't see at BBH 01
00:46:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> you just built them lol
00:46:54  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
00:47:09  <Stablean> <Dom> what did i just build?
00:47:15  <Stablean> <Dom> the cl 0.5?
00:47:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> @SLH 02
00:47:25  <Stablean> <Dom> oh xD
00:47:27  <Stablean> <Dom> true
00:47:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> ...not a problem :)
00:48:23  <Stablean> <Dom> V450000: Superstrong 6 should have full speed in cl 0.5.
00:50:10  <Stablean> <Dom> lol
00:50:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> not again ! :D
00:50:34  <Stablean> <Dom> i tried to revive narnway :(
00:51:40  <Stablean> <Dom> @ Parfinghill there is a Food shop
00:52:42  <Stablean> <Dom> stupid narnwaynians i fund them and those idiots build a fountain...
00:52:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> yep but it isn't needed to accept food?
00:53:11  <Stablean> <Dom> i don't think so
00:53:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> no - weird
00:53:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> maybe a homeless man sleeps there
00:54:10  <Stablean> <Dom> lol water towers :D
00:54:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> water supply too
00:54:58  <Stablean> <Dom> shop +  houses accept food
00:55:10  <Stablean> <Dom> so you can use one or the other
00:55:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> yeah i suppose if the shop is in town centre...
00:55:36  <Stablean> <Dom> btw parfing hill now has a water tower :D
00:55:50  <Stablean> <Dom> its next to the station
00:56:28  <Stablean> <Dom> press ctrl 4
00:56:35  <Stablean> <Dom> and you will see it
00:56:41  <Stablean> <Dom> ups ctrl 3
00:57:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> 4 was okay ...just looking at supplies
00:57:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> could take some from far left corner
00:58:25  <Stablean> <Dom> wateR?
00:58:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> yep
00:59:04  <Stablean> <Dom> now they are everywhere
00:59:40  <Stablean> <Dom> slh 03 slh 01
00:59:54  <Stablean> <Dom> and msh 02
01:00:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> I'm doing these over here
01:00:23  <Stablean> <Dom> i would recommend slh 01 and 02 because its farthest away
01:00:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> feel free... :D
01:00:40  <Stablean> <Dom> slh 01 and 03 sry
01:09:07  <Stablean> <Jam35> built a bigger one last game :)
01:09:21  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
01:09:39  <Stablean> <Dom> just for buffer this time
01:17:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> another slh between bbh01 & 2?
01:17:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> taking stuff across the water
01:18:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> just seems quite a boring stretch of track
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01:28:19  <Stablean> <Dom> sure why not
01:29:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> k maybe tomorrow
01:29:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> off to bed now
01:29:13  <Stablean> <Dom> n8
01:29:16  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb
01:29:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> cya
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01:33:49  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> dom   can  u  help  me  doing  a  over flo   at the   food  pike  up
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01:34:11  <Stablean> <Dom> sure
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01:39:33  <Stablean> <Dom> so now it needs trians
01:39:48  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep  thanks
01:39:58  <Stablean> <Dom> np
01:40:20  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> now   got  o  doo  the  facory  won
01:40:40  <Stablean> <Dom> just do exactly the same as is here
01:40:51  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
01:40:58  <Stablean> <Dom> and check every signal and connection and don't forgett about trainlenght
01:41:13  <Stablean> <Dom> i'll be back in 15 mins
01:41:19  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
01:41:25  <Stablean> <Dom> you should have it by then :)
01:41:36  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
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01:47:24  <Stablean> <nicfer> hello
01:47:30  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
01:47:49  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> whont  to  john  us  u  ar  welcume to
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01:48:07  <Stablean> <nicfer> yay
01:49:02  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>   i  just  try  to  doo  the   goods   pike  up  at   the facory
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02:01:54  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb
02:02:18  <Stablean> <Dom> hmm
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02:07:00  <Stablean> <Dom> no
02:07:03  <Stablean> <Dom> bad idea
02:12:19  <Stablean> <Dom> i hope this works :D
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02:19:35  <Stablean> <Dom> look sign !here
02:19:57  <Stablean> <Dom> whoever did this area of lines should get shot
02:20:40  <Stablean> <nicfer> it's like a LL_RRR
02:21:06  <Stablean> <Dom> its  most likely to jam and fuck up the system
02:22:02  <Stablean> <nicfer> my head hurts
02:22:09  <Stablean> <Dom> lol
02:22:43  <Stablean> <nicfer> tangled ways everywhere
02:22:50  <Stablean> <Dom> lol
02:23:00  <Stablean> <Dom> you should take a look at ps some times :D
02:25:25  <Stablean> <Dom> do not change the signals on the overflow station
02:27:10  <Stablean> <Dom> happy you are using the wrong eniges
02:27:18  <Stablean> <Dom> the fast ones arent made for mountains!
02:27:26  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar
02:27:40  <Stablean> <Dom> arrrr yee ayy pirate?
02:28:19  <Stablean> <Dom> yes
02:28:30  <Stablean> <Dom> and im going to bed
02:28:32  <Stablean> <Dom> n8
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02:28:38  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> gn
02:29:04  <Stablean> <nicfer> bye
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02:31:12  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> u  can   chanch     the  trans   to     eeny  trans  u  like
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04:13:01  <Stablean> <ars> hi
04:13:11  <Stablean> <ars> privet
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04:14:41  <Stablean> <ars> hi
04:14:53  <Stablean> <Diablo> hi
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05:04:07  <Stablean> <nicfer> well, I'm going to sleep
05:04:21  <Stablean> <nicfer> can anybody continue my work?
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09:31:23  <Stablean> <Diablo> hi dom
09:33:53  <Stablean> <Dom> oh hi :)
09:33:55  <Stablean> <Dom> didn't see you
09:34:01  <Stablean> <Dom> yes i can
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09:34:53  <Stablean> <Diablo> he majorly fucked up the production and profitability
09:36:01  <Stablean> <Dom> at least he could've started the trains agian
09:36:27  <Stablean> <Diablo> i kno
09:37:21  <Stablean> <Diablo> i even told him to add a single lane eachway while he was constructing
09:41:31  <Stablean> <Diablo> theres a lost train at slonnbridge woods
09:41:39  <Stablean> <Dom> there are many lost train
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09:45:26  <Stablean> <Diablo> ur island looks like a bustling metropolis
09:45:58  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
09:46:21  <Stablean> <Diablo> all ur missing is the ferries and planes
09:46:31  <Stablean> <Dom> dont have enough money for that :)
09:47:39  <Stablean> <Diablo> ud probably b able to profit from them in a matter of notime
09:48:01  <Stablean> <Dom> maybe but still im not gonna use planes or boats
09:48:07  <Stablean> <Dom> helicopters would rock though
09:48:10  <Stablean> <Dom> anyway i gtgo
09:48:12  <Stablean> <Dom> bb
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09:48:19  <Stablean> <Diablo> bb
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11:56:43  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
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12:59:07  <Stablean> <ars> hi
12:59:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
13:05:08  <Stablean> <Berkel> Hi
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13:05:28  <Stablean> <ars> hi
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13:10:45  <Stablean> <Berkel> When will there be a new map?
13:11:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> when someone makes one :)
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13:58:49  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hello all
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14:00:16  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi syl
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15:25:10  <V453000> there might be a new map at midnight ;)
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17:45:50  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi]
17:45:53  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> hi happy tran sport
17:46:13  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how  things
17:46:39  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Well, first, happy new year, even if it's still the 31th december in france
17:47:01  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Secondly, I decided to try long TL with superstrong and I really love it
17:47:08  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and you ?
17:47:22  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thank   happy   new  yer  to  u to
17:47:24  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good
17:51:38  <Stablean> <V453000> o/
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17:51:43  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi v
17:51:53  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how   things
17:52:23  <Stablean> <V453000> who knows, lets see in a few hours :)
17:52:38  <Stablean> <V453000> [FR]Syl59: it isnt too much about the TL, but mainly about the acceleration and most importantly the curve length
17:53:04  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi V
17:53:18  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> That's why I choose superstrong engine
17:53:28  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> btw, there is a thing about this set
17:53:35  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> a thing i don't understand *
17:53:38  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, what I wanted to point out was that it gets more effective with more messy network due to the CL
17:54:48  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> V, why is "meet the monster" slower than "540 000F", eveni fi "meet the monster" has tilt ?
17:55:10  <Stablean> <V453000> try to guess :)
17:55:33  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> just because it has tilt ? o.O
17:55:40  <Stablean> <V453000> sort of
17:55:46  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#13)
17:55:58  <Stablean> <V453000> see this
17:56:04  <V453000> @clcalc rail 111
17:56:04  <Webster> V453000: Required CL for rail at 111km/h is 2 (2 half tiles) or TL
17:56:13  <V453000> well that means 1.5 cl
17:56:19  <V453000> @clcalc rail tilt 105
17:56:19  <Webster> V453000: Required CL for rail at 105km/h, with tilt bonus, is 1 (1 half tiles) or TL
17:56:26  <V453000> and that is 1
17:56:42  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> that's the speed of "meet the monster"
17:56:44  <Stablean> <V453000> so technically yes it is because of the tilt
17:56:54  <Stablean> <V453000> yes and 111 is 540 000 F
17:57:16  <Stablean> <V453000> and 540 000 F has the same CL as X E Qt R
17:57:22  <Stablean> <V453000> while Meet the Monster has CL1
17:57:46  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> X E Qt R has tilt too
17:58:02  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb
17:58:04  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, 111 without tilt is the same CL as 133 with tilt
17:58:06  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Ah you mean that "meet the monster" can take the curve at full speed ?
17:58:17  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> all curves *
17:58:20  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
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17:58:39  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> so that's the justification ?
17:58:50  <Stablean> <V453000> isnt that enough? :)
17:59:36  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Well ... it kinda be wierd that a newest is slower than the old one in this set ^^'
17:59:59  <Stablean> <V453000> it has an advantage, that is what matters :)
18:00:09  <Stablean> <V453000> see !thing
18:00:09  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> :)
18:00:15  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Thanks :)
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18:00:35  <Stablean> <V453000> you can take the Meet the Monster as a "sub-class"
18:00:43  <Stablean> <V453000> same like in case of local rail trains
18:00:46  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> "sub-class" ?
18:00:48  <Stablean> <V453000> some are also slower, but have higher capacity
18:01:10  <Stablean> <V453000> typically 1 class == 1 engine choice
18:01:20  <Stablean> <V453000> here it splits to multiple choices, thus sub-class :p
18:01:30  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Oh ok :)
18:01:32  <Stablean> <V453000> both Meet the Monster and X E Qt R are useful
18:01:54  <Stablean> <V453000> same like when the last 3 local pax trains are all useful
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18:02:34  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> It depend how my network is
18:02:46  <Stablean> <V453000> yes of course
18:03:00  <Stablean> <V453000> though CL1 is not really a big advantage over CL1.5
18:03:02  <Stablean> <V453000> so ... :)
18:03:06  <Stablean> <V453000> but ye there is that option
18:03:24  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> for exemple, if my network was very tiny (Cl = 1), replace meet the monster with X E Qt R will be a waste of money. Right ?
18:03:49  <Stablean> <V453000> you dont give a fuck about money, but it will probalby make the network perform worse
18:04:20  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I mesure that with the money I earn :D
18:04:38  <Stablean> <V453000> which is wrong but ye
18:04:52  <Stablean> <V453000> you will make 10 times more money with maglev, but that doesnt mean the network isnt jamming
18:05:06  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Yes, of course
18:07:13  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Superstrong are not ... well ... overpowered ? :D
18:07:46  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> 25 348 hp for 960 t and a high speed of 133 km/h ... :P
18:08:00  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> (with a full load of paper, TL7)
18:08:25  <Stablean> *** Kyler has started a new company (#13)
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18:08:35  <Stablean> <Kyler> hi
18:08:37  <Stablean> <V453000> they are supposed to perform well in any length
18:08:39  <Stablean> <V453000> hello
18:08:42  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> hello
18:08:49  <Stablean> <V453000> even if you make TL30 you should be fine with 1 engine
18:09:00  <Stablean> <Kyler> holy shit this is crowed
18:09:18  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and does it work with a TL30 ? :P
18:09:36  <Stablean> <Kyler> what is a TL30?
18:09:50  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Train length = 30 tiles (60 cars)
18:10:00  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> 58 *
18:10:00  <Stablean> <Kyler> oh
18:10:11  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> (if the engine is 1 tile long)
18:10:13  <Stablean> <V453000> why wouldnt it
18:10:19  <Stablean> <Kyler> i suck at this game :{
18:11:13  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> because us train have a hundread cars, and 4 locomotives (30 000 hp)
18:12:36  <Stablean> <V453000> how are us trains related to this game
18:12:36  <Stablean> <V453000> at all
18:12:59  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> the TL
18:13:09  <Stablean> <Kyler> were can i build?
18:13:11  <Stablean> <V453000> no, there is no relation at all
18:13:13  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> but it will be TL50 ...
18:13:55  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> @Kyler : see !here
18:16:13  <Stablean> <Kyler> i dont see it
18:16:36  <Stablean> <Kyler> witch corner of the map is it?
18:16:42  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Well, go near Bruntbridge
18:23:13  <Stablean> <Kyler> im useing a boad why am i loosing 20,00 per second
18:23:16  <Stablean> <Kyler> boat*
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18:24:40  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> V, can you explain me WHY don't the new players check the running xost ? :)
18:26:55  <Stablean> <V453000> because yes :)
18:27:09  <Stablean> <V453000> also, this one wasnt new
18:27:25  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Oh really ? :p
18:29:59  <Stablean> <V453000> unfortunately, yes
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19:20:46  <Stablean> <Dom> hello
19:20:57  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hello Dom
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19:22:30  <Stablean> <V453000> hu
19:22:36  <Stablean> <Dom> ho
19:22:48  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> ha
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19:36:20  <Stablean> <Dom> god damn fireworks
19:36:30  <Stablean> <Dom> all week long ...
19:37:16  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
19:37:18  <Stablean> <V453000> fuck them. :)
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19:40:06  <Stablean> <Dom> any happy new year :)
19:40:09  <Stablean> <Dom> bb
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21:29:19  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Nothing to download
21:29:21  <V453000> !content
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21:30:13  <V453000> !restart
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21:31:01  <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.3.0-beta1.
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21:31:17  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
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21:31:26  <andrwe2> helo
21:32:03  <V453000> hi
21:32:32  <andrwe2> happy new year for you.
21:32:40  <andrwe2> :D
21:33:06  <V453000> thanks, to you as well :)
21:33:40  <andrwe2> I read about RL RL mainlines.
21:33:48  <andrwe2> on ottdcoop.
21:33:53  <andrwe2> seems intresting.
21:34:15  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
21:35:23  <andrwe2> actualy i tryd to design a hub for LR to LRLR, but it grew quite large.
21:35:30  <andrwe2> like 36 tiles long.
21:38:51  <andrwe2> can someone show me an ultra-compact hub for TL-3 ?
21:38:55  <V453000> LR LR is completely dumb
21:39:33  <V453000> !getsave
21:39:35  <Stablean> V453000: OK :-)
21:39:45  <V453000> and our saves and archives are full of compact hubs :)
21:40:48  <V453000> !rcon cd 3
21:40:50  <V453000> !rcon load 2
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21:41:08  <Stablean> <V453000> :>
21:41:53  <andrwe2> the file You linked contains a savegame, but its empty.
21:42:24  <andrwe2> so LR LR is not a good idea.. hmm.
21:42:39  <andrwe2> actualy i did browse some of the savegames on ottdcoop site.
21:43:05  <andrwe2> due to landscape fitting i actualy was.. not realy able to get the designs quite well.
21:43:23  <andrwe2> was hoping there may be a savegame on plain flat land showing some usefull stuff.
21:44:06  <V453000> absolutely not
21:44:16  <V453000> we never play on plain flat
21:44:29  <V453000> if you understand how to build something, you understand how to build it anywhere, not copy things from flat to flat
21:45:41  <andrwe2> it would help me figure out how its done. Sure, i do the double bridge stuff and the curve length thingy. But still I can not compress my designs.
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21:46:27  <V453000> then just move stuff around
21:46:33  <V453000> until you get it "right"
21:46:44  <V453000> it also isnt just about some "designs"
21:46:56  <V453000> just build with the thing you have and expand it where needed
21:47:53  <andrwe2> yes the other problem i ran into. expanding. I would like to figure out something that can be expanded with the least effort. but sofar i never managed it :D
21:50:02  <V453000> the only real rule for "easily expandable" is "leave enough space"
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21:51:29  <V453000> !auto
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21:51:42  <Stablean> <V453000> there we go
21:51:49  <Stablean> <andrew2> seems so.
22:02:23  <Stablean> <V453000> uhm
22:02:26  <Stablean> <V453000> do you absolutely have to build near to me?
22:02:40  <Stablean> <V453000> the whole map is free
22:02:44  <andrwe2> nope, absolutely not :)
22:02:52  <Stablean> <V453000> thank you :)
22:03:05  <andrwe2> to sum it up i might even not know what i'm doing.
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22:08:33  <Stablean> <V453000> taking a shower before it makes some money :)
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22:08:41  <andrwe2> ookay.
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22:35:15  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi  diablo
22:35:22  <Stablean> <Diablo> hi happy
22:35:32  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how  things
22:35:43  <Stablean> <Diablo> not bad
22:36:18  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> u  ar  welcume to  john  me    diablo
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22:41:55  <andrwe2> do you peeps celebrate new years day ?
22:44:04  <Stablean> <V453000> not really :)
22:44:14  <Stablean> <V453000> I was ill earlier today, so. ..
22:46:08  <andrwe2> hmm i see. Actualy my family never celebrated new yea, or xmas, or santa , lol.. We are sorthof ultra-athesits.
22:46:55  <Stablean> <V453000> idk if new year has anything to do with religion
22:47:01  <Stablean> <V453000> unless alcoholism is a religion
22:47:30  <andrwe2> i think new yars date is based on christian stuff.
22:47:42  <andrwe2> the date of the day that is.
22:48:32  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think religion had that much influence at the time when this calendar was created
22:48:38  <Stablean> <V453000> Julianistic or how is it called
22:48:45  <Stablean> <V453000> @times of Caesar
22:49:27  <andrwe2> probably you are right. I can't say i have mutch knowledge about these short of things.
22:49:41  <Stablean> <V453000> I have no idea in fact
22:49:43  <Stablean> <V453000> just guessing from other things
22:49:55  <Stablean> <V453000> it is just the start of another callendar year, nothing else
22:50:12  <Stablean> <V453000> the other dates, yeah, those are picked by religious events
22:52:02  <andrwe2> hmm yes i know about that. like easter and others. hmm easter is a nother thing we don't celebrate at all. Sometimes makes me think if i missed anything or not.
22:52:57  <Stablean> <V453000> we only celebrate christmas
22:53:04  <Stablean> <V453000> but ignore easter
22:53:39  <Stablean> <V453000> I think the original meaning of that thing is completely unrelated, more like the execution of it
22:53:41  <andrwe2> how come ?
22:53:48  <Stablean> <V453000> christmas = give others gifts, thats nice
22:54:06  <Stablean> <V453000> but easter usually is just go to completely unknown people house, get drunk like a dog, whole point
22:54:17  <Stablean> <V453000> at least that is how it works around here
22:54:47  <andrwe2> ah i see. yup, when i was a kid it was a bit strange when others asked what i got for xmas :D
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22:55:15  <Stablean> <V453000> hm :)
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23:00:01  <Stablean> <V453000> fireworks starting, time to up the volume
23:00:40  <andrwe2> aye. lucky me i have quite a setup to deal with it.
23:03:15  <andrwe2> custom made boxes, built and designed by me. same with the amps. and the bass speakers them self are re-designed and re-built by me. 91 dBL sound pressure at 1 watt input power at my listening position.
23:03:22  <Stablean> <V453000> :d
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23:03:42  <Stablean> <valis> hi
23:03:44  <Stablean> <V453000> hio
23:03:50  <Stablean> <andrew2> heloo
23:04:04  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi
23:05:51  <Stablean> <valis> NUTS 0.40 super :)
23:05:53  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
23:07:49  <andrwe2> yes it seems nice :D
23:07:50  <andrwe2>
23:07:50  <Webster> Title: Nine Inch Nails - Discipline, Length: 5m 3s, Views: 518570, Likes: 1776
23:08:01  <andrwe2> some good music to rock things up.
23:08:10  <Stablean> <V453000> noise :)
23:08:24  <Stablean> <andrew2> why you say so?
23:08:30  <Stablean> <V453000> noise == good
23:08:40  <Stablean> <andrew2> oh, okay then :)
23:15:02  <Stablean> <andrew2> last night i seen a tv show, about the "ethics" of growing plants to make fuel.
23:15:16  <Stablean> <V453000> what the fuck? :D
23:15:20  <Stablean> <andrew2> this topic is intresting as i own and work with tractors.
23:15:22  <Stablean> <V453000> be nice, eat a rock? :D
23:15:53  <Stablean> <andrew2> what do you mean ?
23:16:03  <Stablean> <V453000> there was some image somewher
23:16:18  <Stablean> <V453000> like "This Lettuce died so YOU could not be hungry. Be a man, eat a rock."
23:16:26  <Stablean> <V453000> same thing like the vegetarian things
23:17:05  <Stablean> <andrew2> and what do you think, is it ethical to grow plants to make fuel ?
23:17:15  <Stablean> <V453000> idk, why not?
23:18:01  <Stablean> <andrew2> same question i had :D they say its not ethical, as th same ground could be used to grow food, there are over 7 billion hungry people out there.
23:18:21  <Stablean> <andrew2> then i asked my self.. is it ethical that there is 7 billion peeps?
23:19:03  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
23:19:22  <Stablean> <V453000> all those questions are just ...
23:19:24  <Stablean> <V453000> meh
23:20:00  <Stablean> <andrew2> from next year it will be legal to grow diesel and petrol fuel for personal use here.
23:20:06  <Stablean> <andrew2> can't wait to start :D
23:20:10  <Stablean> <V453000> personal use :D
23:20:41  <Stablean> <V453000> that is like so closely sounding like growing weed
23:20:42  <Stablean> <V453000> also personal use
23:21:01  <Stablean> <andrew2> I'm not english so.. i might not use proper terms.
23:21:11  <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt matter I am not english either
23:21:37  <Stablean> <andrew2> i burn about 100 liter a day when working, so it will be extreely cost saving.
23:23:59  <Stablean> <andrew2> what do you people do for a living, btw ?
23:24:05  <Stablean> <V453000> various stuff :)
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23:28:09  <Stablean> <andrew2> i make my living from forestry.
23:29:16  <Stablean> <V453000> I do various computer related stuff
23:29:30  <Stablean> <V453000> I prefer graphics of various kinds, but I do website stuff too
23:30:01  <Stablean> <andrew2> uu, can You give a tip on power consumption reduced, if i upgrade to a 4 core amd, and disable 2 cores ?
23:30:23  <Stablean> <V453000> probably not as I use 750w power source myself :D
23:30:25  <Stablean> <andrew2> fx 4100 cpu.
23:30:43  <Stablean> <V453000> I use the computer for my work, I dont understand hardware much
23:31:10  <Stablean> <andrew2> i have a big psu too, but i want it to be silent. passive heatsinking.
23:32:00  <Stablean> <andrew2> for now i got a verry slow semptron cpu. thinking about upgrading.
23:32:08  <Stablean> <V453000> hm :)
23:32:42  <Stablean> <andrew2> i choose it for its low power consumed (less heat produced).
23:32:56  <Stablean> <andrew2> but by todays standard.. getting too slow.
23:33:11  <Stablean> <V453000> I more like care about the computing power of my components :)
23:33:17  <Stablean> <V453000> I need every bit I can get
23:33:36  <Stablean> <andrew2> the Fx cpu i mentioned can be tweaked to about 5 Ghz / core.
23:33:43  <Stablean> <andrew2> not bad for something that cheap.
23:33:58  <Stablean> <V453000> perfect for openttd :)
23:34:36  <Stablean> <andrew2> if i may guess You don't realy like AMD stuff.
23:35:10  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont really even follow hardware market
23:35:18  <Stablean> <V453000> I somehow managed to pick my components after reading stuff for a week
23:35:36  <Stablean> <V453000> but yes I havent even read about a solid AMD option
23:35:50  <Stablean> <V453000> but it is a year ago so .. :)
23:36:37  <Stablean> <andrew2> yes then it makes sense. AMD offers now a range of quite decent cpu for pff... pocket money.
23:36:43  <Stablean> <andrew2> up to 8 cores.
23:45:02  <Stablean> <V453000> completely normal. No trains come for a long time, then FIVE trains at once
23:45:44  <Stablean> <andrew2> if you say so :)
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23:48:34  <Stablean> <andrew2> V a part of me says i should scream, WTH are you building...
23:48:45  <Stablean> <V453000> yes.
23:48:53  <Stablean> <V453000> just stuff, ignore it for now :)
23:51:25  <Stablean> <andrew2> a dispenser.
23:51:32  <Stablean> <andrew2> it has to be a distributor.
23:52:20  <Stablean> <V453000> idk what do you mean by that but this is a mechanism which splits traffic in 1->N ways in equal form
23:52:51  <Stablean> <andrew2> yes, it distributes. splits trains. to deliver the supplys.
23:52:59  <Stablean> <V453000> right
23:53:43  <Stablean> <V453000> the magic of this specific design is that you can add more splits to the N at any point very easily
23:54:05  <Stablean> <V453000> usually this kind of things is not very flexible after built
23:57:27  <Stablean> <andrew2> I'd bet.
23:57:54  <Stablean> <andrew2> this is, for the record, something that would be usefull to see built on flat land and some explanation.
23:58:08  <Stablean> <V453000> flat has absolutely nothing to do with understanding
23:58:26  <Stablean> <V453000> and if you understand basics of signals and other stuff, you understand how this works

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