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00:00:27 <Stablean> <V453000> you wont learn it if people constantly help you happy ;) 00:00:46 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 00:00:53 <Stablean> <Dixon296> this is true 00:02:25 <Stablean> <Dixon296> best thing to do is try keep it as simple as you can and make sure all tracks can join all tracks 00:02:28 <Stablean> *** jazzabazz joined the game 00:02:37 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 00:03:00 <Stablean> <Dixon296> you want to have another go ? 00:03:22 <Stablean> <Dixon296> then if you still need help i will help you 00:03:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 00:04:22 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> if u can not doo the bbh i wlll try to finsh it to mor 00:04:26 <Stablean> <Dixon296> like V says you will never do it if we do it for you all the time 00:04:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 00:04:58 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i can do it but i want you to learn to do it aswell :) 00:05:44 <Stablean> <V453000> I will give you a hint 00:05:46 <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#7) 00:05:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok i am redey to woch u 00:05:50 <Stablean> <V453000> whenever you are stuck 00:05:52 <Stablean> <V453000> make a scheme 00:06:04 <Stablean> <V453000> simple L_R scheme like that 00:06:07 <Stablean> <V453000> can help you orientate in the hub 00:06:10 <Stablean> <Dixon296> listen to V 00:06:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 00:06:28 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 00:06:30 <Stablean> <V453000> try that 00:06:37 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok thanks 00:06:51 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what 00:07:26 <Stablean> <V453000> L_R scheme of the hub dixon 00:07:36 <Stablean> <V453000> just built aside 00:07:51 <Stablean> <Dixon296> missed it 00:08:44 <Stablean> <V453000> rather place just signs for happy 00:08:51 <Stablean> <V453000> instead of building it for him id say :) 00:08:57 <Stablean> <V453000> but that is up to you guys 00:09:15 <V453000> !auto 00:09:15 <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 00:09:51 <Stablean> <V453000> either way good night :) 00:09:53 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 00:10:01 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> gn v 00:10:03 <Stablean> <Dixon296> im going to build my own 00:10:05 <Stablean> <Dixon296> nn 00:10:24 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> k 00:12:34 <Stablean> <Dixon296> right A and b 00:12:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep i see it 00:13:15 <Stablean> <Dixon296> need to go to all the other a,s 00:13:34 <Stablean> <Dixon296> and the same for all 3 sides 00:13:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 00:15:46 <Stablean> <Dixon296> stop the trains away from the hub delete it and start again and i will sign the connection and you try connect it 00:16:44 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok bbh has no tran on it 00:19:07 <Stablean> <Dixon296> ok 00:19:34 <Stablean> <Dixon296> you got main lines 00:19:42 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 00:19:44 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 3 main lines 00:19:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 00:23:08 <Stablean> <Dixon296> right if we aim to connect them first then we can mix after 00:23:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 00:26:00 <Stablean> <Dixon296> like that 00:26:06 <Stablean> <Dixon296> in sinc 00:26:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar ok 00:26:31 <Stablean> <Dixon296> do those bridges need to be that long 00:27:27 <Stablean> <Dixon296> more room then 00:28:21 <Stablean> <Dixon296> see this 00:28:24 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 00:29:02 <Stablean> <Dixon296> they need spliting to go down 00:30:36 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats what i mean by split 00:30:46 <Stablean> <Dixon296> simple easy :) 00:30:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar ok 00:34:09 <Stablean> *** lucas joined the game 00:34:14 <Stablean> <lucas> hi 00:34:18 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 00:34:25 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi 00:34:40 <Stablean> <lucas> is it the same happy that was playing like half a year ago? 00:35:02 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea but a different dixon :P 00:35:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 00:35:16 <Stablean> <lucas> another dixon?:P 00:35:34 <Stablean> <lucas> you have a jam btw 00:35:40 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yup there are many of me 00:35:42 <Stablean> <lucas> feningbury woods 00:35:49 <Stablean> <Dixon296> no we dont 00:35:59 <Stablean> <lucas> yes you do 00:36:07 <Stablean> <lucas> signal is stending the wrong way there 00:36:10 <Stablean> <lucas> feningbury woods 00:36:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer we ar doing a hbb 00:36:30 <Stablean> <lucas> nvm -.- 00:36:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok dixon whonts nexs 00:36:54 <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh yea ty 00:37:16 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thought you was on about the stopped trains 00:37:34 <Stablean> <lucas> happy improved his building^^ 00:37:48 <Stablean> <Dixon296> had help :) 00:37:55 <Stablean> <Dixon296> right happy 00:37:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 00:38:24 <Stablean> <lucas> yo do still have some bridges out of sync:P 00:38:36 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 1 goes to 2 00:39:34 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 3 has to go to 2 aswell 00:39:52 <Stablean> <Dixon296> with a split to 4 00:40:24 <Stablean> <Dixon296> you gotta get 3 to 2 first m8 00:40:42 <Stablean> <lucas> both:P 00:41:16 <Stablean> *** lucas has left the game (leaving) 00:41:29 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea im trying to do it so he can just mirror for the other side 00:41:40 <Stablean> <Dixon296> happy 00:41:50 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 00:41:50 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 3 to 2 now:) 00:42:42 <Stablean> <Dixon296> that was wrong 00:42:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar 00:43:11 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer rone won 00:43:23 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :) 00:43:37 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats it 00:44:05 <Stablean> <Dixon296> keep signaling so you dont confuse yourself like that :) 00:45:13 <Stablean> <Dixon296> so this is the hardest bit getting 3 cross to 2 00:45:31 <Stablean> <Dixon296> see? 00:45:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 00:45:59 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> tunall it 00:46:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> woops i spl that rone i thinke 00:46:55 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i would kill the bridges make the hard connection the redo the bridges 00:48:30 <Stablean> <Dixon296> think about it 00:51:08 <Stablean> <Dom> hello 00:51:08 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 00:51:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi dom how things 00:51:26 <Stablean> <Dom> hello 00:51:28 <Stablean> <Dom> good and you 00:51:32 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good 00:51:50 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi dom 00:52:08 <Stablean> <Dom> hello 00:52:14 <Stablean> <Dixon296> do your signals 00:52:41 <Stablean> <Dom> you may have a jam xD 00:53:03 <Stablean> <Dom> btw the thing you are building atm should be a bbh 00:53:19 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 00:53:21 <Stablean> <Dixon296> it will be 00:53:43 <Stablean> <Dixon296> happy is learning 00:53:45 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wate sume thin not rite 00:53:53 <Stablean> <Dom> nice :) 00:54:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what not right 00:54:13 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#7) 00:55:09 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nufing i for got whot side i am drive on 00:55:20 <Stablean> <Dixon296> kk 00:55:26 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 00:55:28 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 2 splits to do 00:56:04 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i will signal for you 00:56:12 <Stablean> <Dixon296> you build :) 00:56:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 00:57:03 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#8) 00:57:16 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :) 00:58:01 <Stablean> <Dixon296> split it back abit 00:59:28 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what about this 01:00:10 <Stablean> <Dixon296> ? 01:00:30 <Stablean> <Dixon296> happy wi that? 01:00:37 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 01:00:57 <Stablean> <Dom> do not forgett the mergers :) 01:01:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> right leave that for now and do the other split 01:01:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> like i would forget that 01:01:51 <Stablean> <Dom> ofc ;) 01:02:25 <Stablean> <Dixon296> dont want to confuse him with that yet:) 01:02:28 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 01:02:28 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 01:02:50 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 01:08:06 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 01:08:10 <Stablean> <V453000> moo 01:08:14 <Stablean> <Dom> miau 01:08:24 <Stablean> <Dom> i like the chameleon trains :D 01:08:26 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 01:08:44 <Stablean> <Dom> haven't tried them yet 01:08:51 <Stablean> <Dom> but maybe tomorrow if i find some time 01:09:15 <Stablean> <Dixon296> good for short TL 01:09:37 <Stablean> <V453000> the best for TL0.5-2 01:09:44 <Stablean> <Dixon296> right wait now happy 01:09:53 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 01:10:24 <Stablean> <V453000> I think it would be nice if they changed colour more often 01:10:26 <Stablean> <V453000> like randomly 01:10:41 <Stablean> <V453000> just length is cute but .. 01:10:51 <Stablean> <V453000> perhaps some colour range random 01:10:51 <Stablean> <Dom> they change colour? :D 01:10:53 <Stablean> <V453000> yeah 01:10:59 <Stablean> <Dom> nice :D 01:11:01 <Stablean> <V453000> chameleon .. :) 01:11:07 <Stablean> <V453000> they change colour depending on length 01:11:29 <Stablean> <V453000> I think I will make a lot more colours and add randoms 01:11:53 <Stablean> <V453000> just to make them change colour MORE 01:14:08 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 01:18:25 <Stablean> <Dixon296> looking good happy 01:18:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 01:19:02 <Stablean> <Dixon296> just 2 merges to do and you built your first BBH :) 01:19:40 <Stablean> <Dom> you just need to picture the thing in your head and remember which line goes where and the rest is easy :) 01:21:58 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 01:21:58 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 01:22:41 *** Dom__ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 01:22:48 <Dom__> n8 01:23:14 <Stablean> <Dixon296> n 01:23:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> gn 01:23:42 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok i see your sign dixon 01:23:44 <Stablean> <Dixon296> ok we gonna make the 2 inners go to both outers 01:23:51 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 01:24:09 <Stablean> <Dixon296> and give outers prio 01:24:24 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 01:25:05 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 01:25:08 <Stablean> <Dom> hmm 01:25:14 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb dom 01:25:21 <Stablean> <Dom> i have to see the finishing touches on your first bbh 01:25:23 <Stablean> <Dom> ty :) 01:25:28 <V453000> :D 01:25:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 01:26:13 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be back i n a minte 01:26:24 <Stablean> <Dom> btw there is a unsynced bridge there 01:26:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i know 01:26:43 <Stablean> <Dixon296> but not botherd 01:26:49 <Stablean> <Dom> :D 01:27:13 <Stablean> <Dixon296> just want him to get the idea then he can sort that later 01:27:20 <Stablean> <Dom> yep 01:28:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> back 01:28:34 <Stablean> <Dom> no need for that Dixon296 01:29:35 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 01:29:35 *** Dom__ is now known as Dom_ 01:31:49 <Stablean> <Dixon296> no need for what? 01:31:59 <Stablean> <Dom> for that line around the mine 01:32:37 <Stablean> <Dixon296> why is that 01:33:11 <Stablean> <Dom> im gonna show it to you with signs k? 01:33:29 <Stablean> <Dixon296> k 01:33:29 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#7) 01:35:37 <Stablean> <Dom> something like this 01:36:23 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea but im not trying to do all - all 01:36:38 <Stablean> <Dom> it's not all to all 01:36:45 <Stablean> <Dom> take a closer look :) 01:36:55 <Stablean> <Dom> it's the same just more space saving 01:37:18 <Stablean> <Dixon296> fuck space 01:37:20 <Stablean> <Dom> :D 01:37:30 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 01:37:44 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#8) 01:38:25 <Stablean> <Dom> btw happy im only critisizing Dixon :) 01:38:47 <Stablean> <Dom> for the gaps i mean :) 01:39:05 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar ok 01:39:42 <Stablean> <Dixon296> for a start 1 isnt a gap 01:40:20 <Stablean> <Dom> i know 01:40:30 <Stablean> <Dom> i didnt sign anything with 1 or? 01:40:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> winding me up now 01:40:50 <Stablean> <Dom> :) 01:41:25 <Stablean> <Dom> measure it 01:41:30 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i have 01:41:46 <Stablean> <Dom> it 01:41:49 <Stablean> <Dom> is 2 01:42:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok won bit to doo 01:42:46 <Stablean> <Dixon296> auto signal wont place 1 between 01:43:37 <Stablean> <Dom> also there is a exit signal in that prio 01:43:53 <Stablean> <Dixon296> who put that there 01:43:59 <Stablean> <Dom> idk 01:44:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wher 01:44:23 <Stablean> <Dixon296> wierd 01:46:03 <Stablean> <Dom> anyway gn8 01:46:06 <Stablean> <Dom> now im really going :D 01:46:14 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hn 01:46:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> gn 01:46:21 <Stablean> <Dom> btw the last merger is funny :) 01:46:23 <Stablean> <Dixon296> beleive it or not happy did most of that 01:46:31 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats happy 01:46:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 01:46:45 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> np 01:46:51 <Stablean> <Dom> a big hurray for happy for his first proper bbh :D 01:47:05 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hip hip 01:47:11 <Stablean> <Dom> hurray 01:47:11 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 01:47:14 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hip hip 01:47:17 <Stablean> <Dom> hurray 01:47:23 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats enough 01:47:25 <Stablean> <Dom> :D 01:47:27 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :) 01:47:31 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 01:49:25 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok all dun 01:49:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> no that last merge 01:49:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar 01:50:07 <Stablean> <Dixon296> look at the others 01:50:29 <Stablean> <Dixon296> whats the difference 01:50:51 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> no 01:51:09 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> that was grate 01:51:21 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what was 01:51:51 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> doing the hbb ferst time 01:52:09 <Stablean> <Dixon296> did you enjoy that 01:52:23 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> eney way gn i must go to bed i will doo the slh to mor 01:52:29 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yes i did 01:52:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> sign it 01:53:01 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> dun 01:53:53 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has joined company #1 01:54:51 <Stablean> <Dixon296> well done happy you did good there :) 01:55:13 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> now if keep doing the hbb1 i will get beter at it 01:55:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks dixon 01:55:37 <Stablean> <Dixon296> np m8 01:56:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> rite slh 1 to mor i dont no whont time i been on so bb for now 01:56:48 <Stablean> <Dixon296> bb 01:56:51 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 01:57:04 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 01:57:47 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 01:58:01 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 01:58:09 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> some lack of signals slows it down though 01:58:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> silly boy :) 01:58:43 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks for your hlep dixon 01:58:45 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has joined company #2 02:00:43 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has joined company #1 02:01:39 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> is eney won a good shorter in shorting gams 02:01:58 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what? 02:02:12 <Stablean> <Dixon296> shooter ? 02:02:24 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 02:02:42 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what game 02:02:52 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> eeny game 02:03:34 <Stablean> <Dixon296> im ok 02:03:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i got the new halo 4 02:03:55 <Stablean> <Dixon296> nice 02:04:05 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> and it looks grate 02:04:15 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i am the best play er 02:04:38 <Stablean> <Dixon296> well done 02:05:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> my name for that is the sniper so no won can bet me he he 02:05:39 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> now u see me now u dont he he 02:05:46 <Stablean> <Dixon296> lol 02:07:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i am so qike no won can get a shot on me it taks me won short to kill eney player 02:08:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> eney way sniper go a way now u mite scer the players a way 02:09:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> sorrey a bout r 02:09:16 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hahaha 02:09:22 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> that 02:13:13 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> the sniper and happy say bb eney won thinks eney won is the best thinke a gen so get pratic and sho us 02:14:04 <Stablean> <Dixon296> bb happy 02:14:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> sniper redey 5 4 3 2 1 boom 02:14:32 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 02:14:42 <Stablean> <Dixon296> silly boy 02:20:26 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 02:20:46 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hey sylf :) 02:20:48 <Stablean> <Sylf> hi 02:24:26 <Stablean> <Dixon296> gn 02:24:28 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has joined spectators 02:24:34 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has left the game (leaving) 02:31:02 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 02:45:04 <Stablean> *** jazzabazz has left the game (leaving) 02:45:04 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 03:59:13 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 03:59:13 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 03:59:13 <Stablean> *** Berkel joined the game 04:24:01 <Stablean> *** Berkel has left the game (leaving) 04:24:01 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 05:36:59 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 05:37:01 <Stablean> *** Devils Assistant joined the game 05:37:21 <Stablean> *** Devils Assistant has left the game (leaving) 08:41:09 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:41:11 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 08:51:03 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 08:55:37 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:55:37 <Stablean> *** Muel joined the game 08:55:57 <V453000> :รบ 08:56:00 <V453000> :) 08:56:06 <Stablean> <Muel> :) 08:56:54 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 08:58:36 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (leaving) 09:12:58 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 10:56:17 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:56:19 <Stablean> *** ZS joined the game 10:57:23 <Stablean> *** ZS has left the game (leaving) 10:59:44 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:59:44 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:59:45 <Stablean> *** jazzabazz joined the game 11:00:49 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 11:00:57 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 11:00:59 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> hellu 11:01:21 <Stablean> <V453000> you build pretty solid, do you follow the openttdcoop website and stuff? 11:01:31 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> i try :) 11:01:46 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> atleast the basic stuff like double bridges, cl etc 11:01:50 <Stablean> <V453000> if you want to learn, the public server is a lot more effective in that :) 11:02:30 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> it damages my brain enough to try build a l_r hub :p 11:02:46 <Stablean> <V453000> that is exactly what is happening there atm :) 11:02:56 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> massive brain damage? 11:02:59 <Stablean> <V453000> still, best learn by trying ;) 11:03:02 <Stablean> <V453000> no, LR hubs 11:03:16 <Stablean> <V453000> massive brain damage comes later :) 11:03:26 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> hehe 11:03:40 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> cargo game or pax? 11:03:46 <Stablean> <V453000> cargo, pax will probably be next 11:04:02 <Stablean> *** Martinos joined the game 11:04:06 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ah good. cargo alot more fun than pax imo. 11:04:20 <Stablean> <V453000> I wouldnt compare it 11:04:34 <Stablean> <V453000> I think both are equally fun if you know how to play them 11:04:48 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> well ive guess it might be bacause ive never tried pax before 11:04:53 <Stablean> <V453000> growing a large ass city is fun too, not to mention pax networks is ~same as cargo ... or can be 11:05:07 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (processing map took too long) 11:05:07 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (connection lost) 11:05:21 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> from what i can tell, the pax games tend to be much more 11:05:27 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> uhm how to say it 11:05:29 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> organized 11:05:49 <Stablean> <V453000> that is only because the network itself tends not to be as gigantic as with cargo 11:06:00 <Stablean> <V453000> the structure generally stays, you just replace industries with towns 11:06:03 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (processing map took too long) 11:06:03 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (connection lost) 11:06:07 <Stablean> <V453000> generally, can differ ofc 11:06:11 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> yeah but what i meant was 11:06:18 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> the land is generally very flat 11:06:29 <Stablean> *** Martinos has left the game (leaving) 11:06:33 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> and its very set in how to build etc 11:06:39 <Stablean> <V453000> well growing a town in the mountains is usually a real pain :) 11:06:46 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> pussies xD 11:07:00 <Stablean> <V453000> not really, actually building a town is 100% up to you 11:07:14 <Stablean> <V453000> creativity has no limits there, you just are tasked to service the town well 11:07:37 <Stablean> <V453000> it for sure isnt more limiting than cargo network standards 11:08:03 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> its more the aesthetics for me i think 11:08:21 <Stablean> <V453000> what, pax games arent aesthetical ? :D or? 11:08:35 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> i dont think so :) 11:08:38 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> prefer organized chaos 11:09:04 <Stablean> <V453000> well, build your city that way and you have organized chaos 11:09:08 <Stablean> <V453000> or even the network itself 11:09:10 <Stablean> <V453000> done :) 11:09:15 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 joined the game 11:09:23 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 11:09:23 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi 11:09:25 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> maybe i have to try it one day ^^ 11:09:32 <Stablean> <V453000> perhaps next ps game :) 11:09:44 <Stablean> <V453000> NUTS gets new passenger trains, so that will be a good opportunity 11:09:52 <Stablean> <Dixon296> whats that 11:10:14 <Stablean> <V453000> discussing pax games on ps 11:10:22 <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh :) 11:10:24 <Stablean> <V453000> which in translation means that Dixon is a bitch 11:10:36 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> yeah thats what i understood from you aswell 11:10:38 <Stablean> <Dixon296> now now 11:10:48 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 11:11:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> V is a slug hugger :P 11:11:31 <Stablean> <V453000> I would need WAY longer arms than I have 11:11:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> true 11:11:46 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ??? 11:11:50 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> slugs are not small? 11:11:53 <Stablean> <Dixon296> they fat 11:12:11 <Stablean> <V453000> jazzabazz: THE SLUG is a special engine coming in 2070 :) 11:12:25 <Stablean> <V453000> some inconsiderate individuums consider it obese 11:12:36 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> aaaah ok :p 11:13:03 <Stablean> <V453000> which, coincidentally, translates into Dixon is a bitch 11:13:09 <Stablean> <V453000> what a surprise 11:13:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> its allso a good ruler 11:13:21 <Stablean> <V453000> ruler? 11:13:31 <Stablean> <V453000> wtf would you use the slug to rule :D 11:13:50 <Stablean> <Dixon296> if you can fit a slug there you can build anything in that space 11:13:57 <Stablean> <V453000> :D 11:14:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :P 11:14:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> brb need coffee just got up 11:14:57 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> is there any way to quickly replace all wagons with univervals btw? 11:15:04 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> or does it have to be manually? 11:15:11 <Stablean> <V453000> just tell them to do so in the autoreplace window 11:15:21 <Stablean> <V453000> bottom left is a button to switch between wagons and engines 11:15:35 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> on the train list right? 11:15:46 <Stablean> <V453000> train list - replace vehicles - there 11:15:56 <Stablean> <V453000> I would also consider using monorail if I were you 11:16:03 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> monorail looks ugly 11:16:05 <Stablean> <V453000> monorail medium should do nicely there 11:16:19 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> electric tracks>>>all 11:16:33 <Stablean> <V453000> you use which graphics 11:16:39 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> uhm 11:16:42 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> the opengfx thing? 11:17:10 <Stablean> <V453000> monorail looks different on this map then 11:17:32 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> i dont like the way it looks 11:17:42 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> but uhm i cant find the button to replace qqqq 11:17:52 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> aaaah 11:17:54 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> nvm 11:18:08 <Stablean> <V453000> less qq more pew pew :) 11:18:23 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> does it autorefit to the correct cargo aswell? 11:18:29 <Stablean> <V453000> of course 11:18:59 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> good shit :D 11:19:21 <Stablean> <V453000> the universal wagons are in general quite a great tool :) 11:19:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats all i use now :) 11:19:49 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has joined company #1 11:20:37 <Stablean> <V453000> your trains are beyond awesome regardless Dixon 11:20:57 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :) 11:21:18 <Stablean> <Dixon296> is there more after the natuaral born ? 11:21:28 <Stablean> <V453000> yes, the DoW 11:21:36 <Stablean> <Dixon296> year? 11:21:42 <Stablean> <V453000> 2028 I think 11:21:45 <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#7) 11:22:09 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 11:22:17 <Stablean> <V453000> rather soon :) 2 hours 11:22:19 <Stablean> <V453000> +- 11:22:57 <Stablean> <Dixon296> gd gd :) 11:23:07 <Stablean> <V453000> also it isnt natural born, it is natural born CHAOS 11:23:09 <Stablean> <V453000> bitch 11:23:29 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 11:23:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh soooooo sorry sir 11:23:43 <Stablean> <V453000> the most important word out of those 3 :P 11:24:29 <Stablean> <Dixon296> should of put full stop 11:24:47 <Stablean> <V453000> ? 11:24:49 <Stablean> <Dixon296> that would of been the best of the 3 11:25:03 <Stablean> <Dixon296> =the end 11:25:06 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :P 11:25:16 <Stablean> <V453000> I understand you mean "." but wtf :) 11:26:54 <Stablean> <Dixon296> not on about the train name btw :) 11:30:33 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> i think i shouldve been quicker with trying to keep industries alive 11:30:35 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> lesson learned -.- 11:31:14 <Stablean> <Dixon296> or do what i did 11:31:19 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> which is? 11:31:23 <Stablean> <V453000> the productions will skyrocket once you use faster trains 11:31:29 <Stablean> <Dixon296> chaningworth valley 11:31:57 <Stablean> <V453000> or just prospect more industries 11:31:59 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> aaah 11:32:05 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> that keeps it alive? 11:32:15 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yep 11:32:18 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> haxxx 11:32:20 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ty :) 11:32:52 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i only do it on islands 11:33:14 <Stablean> <V453000> I just connect it instead ;) 11:33:36 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> how many days did it take to build rome? 11:33:43 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 2 11:33:53 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ok -.- 11:34:03 <Stablean> <V453000> lol 11:34:10 <Stablean> <Dixon296> well is wasnt 1 so must be 2 11:34:26 <Stablean> <Dixon296> logic 11:34:32 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :) 11:34:40 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> flawless 11:34:46 <Stablean> <V453000> bunch of bastards got drunk first day, placed a Rome sign when drunk late in the night, found it next afternoon 11:34:48 <Stablean> <V453000> 2 days 11:35:06 <Stablean> <Dixon296> makes sense to me 11:35:20 <Stablean> <V453000> I doubt it was anyhow else 11:37:14 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> is electrodriving or reckoning the best train to use? 11:37:58 <Stablean> <V453000> all trains are best to use 11:38:04 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ok :D 11:38:10 <Stablean> <Dixon296> reckoning 11:38:13 <Stablean> <V453000> you just need to know how to use them :) 11:38:24 <Stablean> <V453000> generally FAST class is trash 11:38:34 <Stablean> <V453000> unless you _really_ know how to utilize it 11:38:37 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ooops 11:38:39 <Stablean> <V453000> medium/strong is generally good 11:38:59 <Stablean> <V453000> for your trains I think even strong would be best 11:39:05 <Stablean> <V453000> as you have one engine per train 11:39:15 <Stablean> <Dixon296> single engine aswell stay away from fast class 11:39:17 <Stablean> <V453000> but medium will do ok 11:39:36 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> reckoning is on its way 11:39:50 <Stablean> <V453000> there will be one more medium train rather soon 11:40:05 <Stablean> <V453000> ok well 2041 11:41:31 <Stablean> <Dixon296> natuaral born chaos would be even betterjazz:) 11:41:57 <Stablean> <V453000> they dont perform that well 11:41:57 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> say wha? 11:42:12 <Stablean> <V453000> great acceleration and speed but less capacity and more loading times 11:42:26 <Stablean> <V453000> also he hates monorail for some reason :D 11:42:34 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> yy 11:42:40 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> it is what it is 11:42:40 <Stablean> <Dixon296> mono looks good these days 11:43:24 <Stablean> <Dixon296> and less capasity = more trains :) 11:44:11 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> you can drive maglev+monorail on universal rails? 11:44:17 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yep 11:44:20 <Stablean> <V453000> mhm 11:44:33 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ah ok 11:45:04 <Stablean> <Dixon296> creeper 11:45:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> 32 11:45:14 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 11:45:25 <Stablean> <V453000> it has the same probability as pink elephants 11:46:37 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i need to start spending some cash now way too mutch 11:48:20 <Stablean> <Dixon296> train 33 V 11:48:38 <Stablean> <V453000> unbelievable 11:48:48 <Stablean> <V453000> but hm :) 11:48:50 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats twice 11:49:33 <Stablean> <V453000> they should be like cargo for bonus money 11:49:51 <Stablean> <Dixon296> lol i was just typing that message :) 11:50:05 <Stablean> <V453000> that would actually be awesome 11:50:11 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think I can do that however 11:50:25 <Stablean> <Dixon296> why not 11:50:39 <Stablean> <V453000> I would have to redefine livestock cargo 11:50:46 <Stablean> <V453000> which could collide with industry newgrfs 11:51:13 <Stablean> <V453000> the only thing I could probably do is reduce cargo decay rate to 0 for creepers 11:51:17 <Stablean> <V453000> that is prooobably possible 11:51:27 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what about as a seperate grf to be use only with nuts? 11:51:29 <Stablean> <V453000> though not atm as the random switch is broken 11:51:41 <Stablean> <V453000> separate grf combinations are ass 11:52:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> ok nvm that idea then 11:52:33 <Stablean> <V453000> I might reconsider it later, but for now I dont think there is any reasonable way to code that 11:52:39 <Stablean> <V453000> or at least not that I know 11:52:45 <Stablean> <V453000> as cargo payment is property of the cargo 11:53:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> k 11:53:25 <Stablean> <V453000> it would be just some dumb stuff anyway :) 11:53:27 <Stablean> <V453000> so ye 11:53:35 <Stablean> <V453000> $ 11:54:30 <Stablean> <Dixon296> they arnt that rare V got another 11:54:52 <Stablean> <V453000> yes it isnt like a miracle or something :) 11:55:10 <Stablean> <V453000> I think the rate at which they appear is ok 11:58:09 <Stablean> <Dixon296> have you redone any toyland cargos V? 11:59:24 <Stablean> <V453000> guess :) 11:59:38 <Stablean> <Dixon296> er no ? 11:59:40 <Stablean> <V453000> you mean on the new trains ? 11:59:47 <Stablean> <Dixon296> any 11:59:55 <Stablean> <V453000> wtf do you mean now? 12:00:02 <Stablean> <V453000> all trains support toyland cargoes 12:00:06 <Stablean> <V453000> if that is what you ask about 12:01:24 <Stablean> <Dixon296> have you redrawn any cargo for new wagons 12:01:51 <Stablean> <V453000> new wagons = I drew new cargoes? 12:02:18 <Stablean> <V453000> the chameleon class has all cargoes newly drawn, including toyland 12:02:49 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats whah i was asking 12:02:55 <Stablean> <Dixon296> sort of :) 12:03:22 <Stablean> <V453000> you mean if I drew new or just cloned them from other trains? 12:03:28 <Stablean> <V453000> other wagons 12:03:48 <Stablean> <Dixon296> if you drew new 1s 12:04:06 <Stablean> <V453000> new of course 12:04:13 <Stablean> <V453000> the new wagons have different size of the cargoes so it needs new 12:04:19 <Stablean> <V453000> also for example toys look wtf awesome 12:04:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> cool so we need ttoyland next map now :D 12:05:35 <Stablean> <V453000> dont worry that is for sure happening :) 12:05:41 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :) 12:07:00 <Stablean> <Dixon296> gonna go TL next time 12:07:06 <Stablean> <Dixon296> TL2 12:07:20 <Stablean> <V453000> TL2 is probably their best configuration by far 12:07:30 <Stablean> <V453000> I am considering a special rail chameleon train actually 12:07:40 <Stablean> <V453000> just to allow TL0.5 from start 12:07:42 <Stablean> <Dixon296> nice 12:07:53 <Stablean> <V453000> would look similar to the strong 1 12:08:03 <Stablean> <V453000> just with an articulated wagon behind it 12:08:34 <Stablean> <V453000> idk about the rest of it though 12:08:48 <Stablean> <V453000> as it would have cargo capacity it could immediately become better than strong 12:09:10 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i think it should be mono only 12:09:29 <Stablean> <Dixon296> apart from the 0.5 thingy 12:09:32 <Stablean> <V453000> no that definitely not, I could already make one of them appear in 1920 if I wanted that 12:09:50 <Stablean> <V453000> and the logic would stay, you can compare trains between tracktypes too 12:10:17 <Stablean> <V453000> I could disallow it to haul any wagons 12:10:31 <Stablean> <V453000> that would work pretty well I guess 12:10:38 <Stablean> <Dixon296> for the rail one? 12:10:42 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 12:10:45 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :) 12:10:53 <Stablean> <V453000> just for the 1920-1960 for TL0.5 12:11:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> sounds good 12:11:45 <Stablean> <Dixon296> brb 12:11:47 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has joined spectators 12:12:08 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> new noob question: any stations that get visual effect when doing rubber, fruit and all those? 12:12:14 <Stablean> <V453000> n 12:12:24 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ah ok 12:12:27 <Stablean> <V453000> rubber actually shows as barrels 12:12:37 <Stablean> <V453000> with the processed products - barrel platforms 12:12:51 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think any stations show fruit though 12:12:57 <Stablean> <V453000> I could make a NUTS station set :> 12:13:04 <Stablean> <V453000> showing the same cargoes as on the wagons 12:13:07 <Stablean> <V453000> that would be easy 12:13:17 <Stablean> <V453000> anyone else could do that as well though, not just me 12:13:39 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ok cool 12:13:50 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> mostly the FIRST then i guess 12:14:00 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> that lacks designated stations 12:14:08 <Stablean> <V453000> Chips works with that 12:14:15 <Stablean> <V453000> CHIPS to be more precise 12:14:29 <Stablean> <V453000> though most cargoes are just boxes :( 12:14:35 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> ah ok :( 12:14:42 <Stablean> <V453000> still, chips with firs is g ood 12:14:52 <Stablean> <V453000> it is made to work together after all 12:14:54 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> and which station shows diamonds and gold again? 12:15:04 <Stablean> <V453000> probably none 12:15:34 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> hey they do show barrels :D 12:15:36 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> cool 12:16:07 <Stablean> <V453000> nuts stations would actually be amazing 12:16:13 <Stablean> <V453000> but the time .. 12:16:27 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> should hire someone xD 12:16:37 <Stablean> <V453000> I have the cargoes but I dont have any station buildings etc 12:16:47 <Stablean> <V453000> well I could suggest the cargoes to andythenorth 12:16:49 <Stablean> <V453000> hmmm 12:17:08 <Stablean> <V453000> well hmm 12:17:13 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> hmm 12:17:23 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think he would want to replace his cargoes with nuts cargoes 12:17:26 <Stablean> <V453000> just fill some in 12:17:32 <Stablean> <V453000> so ye 12:17:58 <Stablean> <V453000> well I dont have to include any buildings, just platforms for now .. :) 12:18:14 <Stablean> <V453000> yeah, it is an option .. :) 12:18:26 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> on the todo list then XD 12:18:33 <Stablean> <Dixon296> nuts would be amazing for all transport types,stations and industries 12:18:39 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hint hint 12:18:41 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :) 12:18:43 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> yeaup 12:18:49 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has joined company #1 12:19:41 <Stablean> <V453000> pay my bills and it will be .. :) 12:19:57 <Stablean> <Dixon296> if could i would V 12:20:03 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 12:20:14 <Stablean> <V453000> but the "all transportation types" are kinda unlikely :P 12:20:21 <Stablean> <V453000> unless you want -no ships- newGRF :D 12:20:32 <Stablean> <Dixon296> and i would even help but dont have a clue about thats shit 12:20:52 <Stablean> <V453000> that is a lie Dixon, I didnt know a single shit when I started either 12:20:54 <Stablean> <Dixon296> ships are shit anyway 12:20:56 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> how much money would you need to make diagonal bridges? 12:21:02 <Stablean> <V453000> if you want, it is easy because I can already tell you waht 12:21:16 <Stablean> <V453000> none, I dont code openttd itself 12:21:20 <Stablean> <V453000> just newgrf :) 12:21:42 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> okok -.- 12:21:44 <Stablean> <Dixon296> how did you learn to do it 12:21:51 <Stablean> <jazzabazz> gonna go have a chat with sawyer then 12:22:14 <Stablean> <V453000> sawyer wont help you much 12:22:19 <Stablean> <V453000> OTTD dev team rather might ;) 12:22:25 <Stablean> <V453000> Dixon296: tt-wiki.net 12:22:29 <Stablean> <V453000> documentation of NML 12:22:39 <Stablean> <V453000> learning drawing is just ... patience really 12:22:55 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i will check it out later :d 12:23:01 <Stablean> <V453000> I somewhat do graphics for a living so I guess I have some tendencies to it, but still 12:23:15 <Stablean> <V453000> honestly checking it out is ... LONG and confusing as HELL on the first sight 12:23:17 <Stablean> <V453000> if you need something ask me 12:23:27 <Stablean> <V453000> I can at least point you to the right direction or something 12:23:37 <Stablean> <Dixon296> kk 12:23:39 <Stablean> <V453000> you need to understand how it generally works first 12:23:42 <Stablean> <V453000> which is what I can explain 12:23:54 <Stablean> <V453000> and then for specific features you can just read up on the tt wiki 12:24:08 <Stablean> <Dixon296> would love to do it at somepoint 12:24:14 <Stablean> <V453000> it is great :) 12:25:00 <Stablean> <V453000> the drawing is the hardest, longest, most time consuming, and takes a long time to learn though 12:25:22 <Stablean> <V453000> as you know, 90% of NUTS has gotten redrawn already 12:25:32 <Stablean> <V453000> the first tries just are worse :) 12:25:46 <Stablean> <V453000> but hell, progress :) worth it 12:25:53 <Stablean> <Dixon296> defo :) 12:26:15 <Stablean> <V453000> hm I could even extend ISR 12:26:17 <Stablean> <V453000> industrial station renewal 12:26:31 <Stablean> <V453000> but again that has cargoes already, I dont want to overwrite any 12:26:45 <Stablean> <V453000> nah probably a clean new newgrf would be best 12:26:55 <Stablean> <V453000> even if it adds just like 2 station tils 12:27:15 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea then it can be added to when ever? 12:27:21 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 12:27:36 <Stablean> <V453000> actually if you want to start somewhere with newGRFs, the stations are probably the 100% easiest part 12:27:50 <Stablean> <V453000> vehicles are nicely small, but they have endless variations and rotations 12:28:01 <Stablean> <V453000> station is just one sprite, eventually enhanced for extra cargo waiting 12:28:19 <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh ok 12:28:33 <Stablean> <V453000> buildings are the same but those are large so they take longer to draw 12:28:51 <Stablean> <V453000> ships take forever to draw due to being large AND having rotations 12:29:09 <Stablean> <V453000> but stations, you would just need the ground tile and I can support you with all the nuts cargoes 12:29:16 <Stablean> <V453000> just moving pixels around and making base tile 12:29:35 <Stablean> <V453000> I could eventually even make the base tile for you ... I might in fact even have some aside 12:29:57 <Stablean> <Dixon296> right when i get abit of time i will try it 12:30:15 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ joined the game 12:30:17 <Stablean> <V453000> hurry before motivation takes me though :D 12:30:24 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :) 12:30:35 <Stablean> <V453000> well there will probably always be space to expand such a set :p 12:30:45 <Stablean> <BennyCZ> hi 12:30:48 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 12:30:50 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi 12:31:00 <Stablean> <V453000> and expanding is even easier when you see the structure how it is coded 12:31:06 <Stablean> <V453000> usually just copypaste 12:31:18 <Stablean> <Dixon296> thats more me :) 12:31:44 <Stablean> <V453000> I might give it a try duing the weekend 12:31:52 <Stablean> <V453000> maybe earlier, after I finish the maglev intercity 12:32:26 <Stablean> <Dixon296> what do use for drawing then? 12:32:32 <Stablean> <V453000> photoshop ofc 12:32:39 <Stablean> <V453000> but gimp works too I guess 12:32:53 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ has left the game (leaving) 12:32:59 <Stablean> <V453000> I even draw in pure paletted png so I dont use many photoshop functions there really 12:33:21 <Stablean> <V453000> as png doesnt support layers 12:33:31 <Stablean> <V453000> which I hate anyway 12:34:09 <Stablean> <V453000> for you I would have mainly quests with moving cargo sprites onto platforms at first while I could try starting the code 12:34:15 <Stablean> <V453000> later you could code too :) 12:34:41 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :) 12:34:45 <Stablean> <V453000> he only thing which I am a bit afraid of is the cooperation between 2 12:34:51 <Stablean> <V453000> because I compile everything locally 12:35:17 <Stablean> <V453000> you *can* use the devzone but I have no experience with that and I kinda want to delay using that as long as feasiblypossible 12:35:31 <Stablean> <V453000> but tons of people trade source files over the forums so I dont think it is a huge issue 12:35:59 <Stablean> <V453000> well we could figure that out somehow 12:36:06 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yup 12:36:20 <Stablean> <V453000> sending sprites is obvious, adding things to the code a bit less, but ... easy 12:36:54 <Stablean> <V453000> quickly looking at stations, it looks trivial 12:36:54 <Stablean> <Dixon296> tbh i carnt see me getting the hang of it all but i will give it a go :) 12:37:08 <Stablean> <V453000> look at nuts 0.0.1 12:37:10 <Stablean> <V453000> see what it is now 12:37:16 <Stablean> <V453000> it is just about time 12:37:27 <Stablean> <Dixon296> true 12:37:45 <Stablean> <V453000> true that 0.0.1 is even after like 8 months of drawing 12:37:45 <Stablean> *** Muel joined the game 12:37:57 <Stablean> <Muel> :) 12:37:59 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 12:38:01 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi 12:38:15 <Stablean> <V453000> it is actually very close to 1.5 years since I started as of now 12:38:17 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 12:38:46 <Stablean> *** ComLock has started a new company (#7) 12:38:49 <Stablean> *** ComLock joined the game 12:39:00 <Stablean> <Dixon296> is gimp anygood? 12:39:12 <Stablean> <V453000> I think it is complete trash but that could be just because I am used to photoshop 12:39:14 <Stablean> <ComLock> gimp the drawing program? 12:39:24 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea 12:39:30 <Stablean> <ComLock> More powerful than it looks 12:39:42 <Stablean> <Dixon296> well V i never used any so 12:39:47 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 12:39:54 <Stablean> <V453000> I could help you easier if you use the same software 12:40:00 <Stablean> <V453000> but that is up to you really 12:40:20 <Stablean> <Dixon296> kk 12:40:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi all 12:40:40 <Stablean> <Dixon296> wanna try both 12:40:43 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 12:40:46 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi 12:40:52 <Stablean> <V453000> then do :) 12:40:58 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i am 12:41:01 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :) 12:41:07 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 12:41:11 <Stablean> <Dixon296> on it now 12:44:07 <Stablean> <Dixon296> do you have to pay for them V 12:45:01 <Stablean> <V453000> well, that depends how morally high you are 12:45:07 <Stablean> <V453000> I do have them bought as I use them for work, but ... 12:45:21 <Stablean> <V453000> also not a long time ago Adobe actually released CS2 for free 12:45:31 <Stablean> <V453000> it isnt as great as CS6 of course, but should do the job for our purpose 12:45:58 <V453000> http://www.adobe.com/downloads/cs2_downloads/index.html 12:45:59 <Webster> Title: Adobe - CS2 Downloads (at www.adobe.com) 12:46:22 <Stablean> <V453000> you will probably need to register there though 12:46:29 <Stablean> <V453000> not like that is a problem 12:47:31 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (leaving) 12:48:04 <Stablean> <Dixon296> kk cheers 12:51:51 <Stablean> <Dixon296> downloading but going slow as fuck 12:52:17 <Stablean> <V453000> hm 12:52:27 <Stablean> <V453000> well drawing wont go much faster :P 12:52:53 <Stablean> <Dixon296> eta 30 mins :( 12:53:11 <Stablean> <V453000> oh you spoilt bitch 12:53:17 <Stablean> <V453000> 30 mins is fine 12:53:19 <Stablean> <Dixon296> lol 12:53:31 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i want i t now 12:53:34 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :P 12:54:37 <Stablean> *** jazzabazz has left the game (leaving) 12:54:39 <V453000> join the irc in the meantime 12:54:53 <Stablean> <Dixon296> k hang on 12:55:39 *** Dixon296 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:55:46 <Dixon296> hi 12:56:10 <V453000> type /join #nuts 12:56:37 <Dixon296> in this box? 12:56:41 <V453000> yes 12:56:47 <V453000> is there any other box? :D 13:09:44 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> my bbh1 werks grate 13:09:48 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has joined spectators 13:12:12 <Stablean> <Dixon296> well done happy 13:12:22 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 13:12:40 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok now i got sume slh to doo 13:12:55 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has left the game (leaving) 13:14:08 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 13:19:58 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 13:20:05 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 14:43:52 <Stablean> *** ComLock has left the game (leaving) 14:43:52 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:14:38 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:14:39 <Stablean> *** {MATOsk;} joined the game 15:15:24 <Stablean> *** MATOsk; has left the game (leaving) 15:16:26 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:16:29 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 15:20:03 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:24:47 *** Dom__ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:25:02 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 joined the game 15:25:04 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:25:48 <Stablean> <Dixon296> were did they all go 15:26:07 <Stablean> <V453000> to hell 15:26:11 <Stablean> <V453000> apparently :) 15:27:03 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hehe 15:27:06 <Stablean> <Dixon296> brb 15:30:04 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 15:30:04 *** Dom__ is now known as Dom_ 15:40:14 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:40:17 <Stablean> *** Phillip joined the game 15:45:21 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has joined company #1 15:45:21 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 15:46:46 <Stablean> <V453000> where are they 15:46:48 <Stablean> <V453000> DoW 15:46:51 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 15:49:26 <Stablean> <Dixon296> who? 15:49:36 <Stablean> * V453000 hints some new trains 15:49:51 *** Dixon296 has quit IRC 15:49:58 <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh 15:50:00 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :) 15:50:35 <Stablean> <Dixon296> destroyer of worlds wooop 15:50:53 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 15:51:15 <Stablean> <V453000> and it means business 15:51:57 <Stablean> <V453000> hm where do you replace the farm trains 15:51:59 <Stablean> <V453000> no depot? 15:52:05 <Stablean> <Dixon296> lol trying to replace trains i dont have 15:52:13 <Stablean> <Dixon296> i know 15:52:19 <Stablean> <Dixon296> creeper 15:53:13 <Stablean> <Dixon296> how to hide it there? 15:53:24 <Stablean> <V453000> reverser 15:53:26 <Stablean> <V453000> -> depot 15:55:12 <Stablean> <Dixon296> shit but :) 15:56:19 <Stablean> <Dixon296> oh yea now we are talking :D 15:56:31 <Stablean> <V453000> shit borkd? 15:56:45 <Stablean> <Dixon296> ? 15:56:47 <Stablean> <V453000> or? :) 15:57:18 <Stablean> <Dixon296> they are good 15:58:17 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 15:58:18 <Stablean> <V453000> ah :) yeah they are a lot better than the previous ones 15:58:20 <Stablean> <Dom> hello 15:58:24 <Stablean> <V453000> hy 15:58:28 <Stablean> <Dixon296> well better:) 15:58:30 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi 15:59:01 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has left the game (connection lost) 15:59:03 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:59:30 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has left the game (connection lost) 15:59:30 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:03:52 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:04:22 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 16:04:44 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:04:46 <Stablean> *** Pineau joined the game 16:07:30 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:09:18 <Stablean> *** Pineau has left the game (leaving) 16:11:46 <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (leaving) 16:42:56 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 16:42:56 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 16:43:55 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:43:55 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 16:44:51 *** Dom__ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:48:57 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 16:48:58 *** Dom__ is now known as Dom_ 17:11:56 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:11:59 <Stablean> *** Surfer2010 joined the game 17:12:02 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> hey guys 17:12:05 <Stablean> <Dom> hello 17:12:11 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> happy new year to all i've not seen yet 17:12:22 <Stablean> <Dom> thanks and to you to :) 17:12:36 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i got a question ... i was trying to figure out the "easiest" way to build a SLH 17:12:50 <Stablean> <Dom> i can show you if you want 17:12:50 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ML 1 track each direction 17:12:56 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> sure would be nice 17:13:00 <Stablean> <Dom> 1 track? 17:13:06 <Stablean> <Dom> normal slh is LL RR 17:13:13 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> because the one i build is .. uhm how can i show you 17:13:40 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#8) 17:13:42 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:13:46 <Stablean> <Dom> see sign !here 17:14:00 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> yes 17:14:11 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> how can i sho you what i build real quick 17:14:21 <Stablean> <Dom> build it somewhere 17:14:32 <Stablean> *** Surfer2010 has started a new company (#9) 17:15:57 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> like this 17:16:20 <Stablean> <Dom> well its slowing down quite hard 17:16:30 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> a little bigger but it always slows down the trains leaving and entering becausse it's not 3-3-3-3 17:17:14 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> and i'm looking for a small and easy to build hub like this 17:18:13 <Stablean> <Dom> this a bit faster design 17:18:24 <Stablean> <Dom> it doesnt look quite good though 17:18:30 <Stablean> <Dom> as i build it really fast xD 17:18:43 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> all corners length 3 ?! 17:18:50 <Stablean> <Dom> no 17:18:56 <Stablean> <Dom> this one are cl 2 17:19:00 <Stablean> <Dom> most of them 17:19:04 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok i need 3 ;) 17:19:15 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> because my trains always have 3 17:19:25 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 17:19:25 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#10) 17:19:35 <Stablean> <Dom> ok i'll do a cl3 17:19:37 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> and i need double tunnel and double bridges correct? 17:19:51 <Stablean> <Dom> well if there is alot of traffic then yes 17:19:57 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok 17:21:36 <Stablean> <Dom> cl 3 single bridge 17:21:50 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 17:21:52 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok 17:21:54 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#8) 17:22:20 <Stablean> <Dom> i hate the tf costs here -.-" 17:22:28 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #2 17:22:31 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> lol 17:22:32 <Stablean> <Dom> so 17:22:34 <Stablean> <Dom> now i have some money 17:25:19 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> wtf .... lol 17:25:22 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ? 17:25:39 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:25:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 17:27:01 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what are you building? 17:27:07 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> MLH ? 17:27:10 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:27:13 <Stablean> <Dom> slh 17:28:35 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> mhhh i'm LOST :D .... lol i know what the plan is but watching this i'm lost 17:29:02 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> which doesn'T matter cus i only need what i build there but "better for traffic" = no slowing down 17:29:24 <Stablean> <Dom> well this is a LL RR SLH 17:29:30 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> so your solution before should do it i think ...if i remember it :D 17:29:50 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> yes ... if the ML hast 2 tracks each direction 17:30:00 <Stablean> <Dom> yes 17:30:10 <Stablean> <Dom> its a bit huge because idc about size atm :) 17:30:28 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i will get back to you on THIS one later (in 2-3 weeks maybe ^^) 17:30:30 <Stablean> <Dom> but you can see some nice pics about slh on the wiki.openttdcoop.org 17:30:36 <Stablean> <Dom> also in the savegames 17:30:39 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> i looked at them 17:30:54 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> but it's easier to remember watching someone building it 17:30:56 <Stablean> <Dom> slh isn't that bad to build especially if you have space 17:31:22 <Stablean> <Dom> the problem is a bbh in a tight space where there are mountaisn and water and just a little tf :D 17:31:49 <Stablean> <Dom> you can see on blue companies island a bbh 17:31:55 <Stablean> <Dom> well a merger is missing 17:31:57 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> so the one you build before you would say is the best? cl3 and single bridge 17:32:19 <Stablean> <Dom> and i'll add the merger now 17:32:30 <Stablean> <Dom> well it depends on the trains and on the traffic 17:32:44 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> starting slow <---- ;) 17:32:51 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> and keeping it easy at the beginning 17:33:17 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> could you build the one from before once more? 17:34:10 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 17:38:03 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> like this? 17:38:17 <Stablean> <Dom> yes 17:38:35 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> ok and all tracks at leas 3 no matter if straight or diagonal 17:38:41 <Stablean> <Dom> yes 17:39:05 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ joined the game 17:39:54 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> but there is no way to make this smaler back at the sign? 17:40:45 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ has left the game (leaving) 17:40:54 <Stablean> <Dom> this would be another possibility 17:41:04 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> that looks a lot better and smaler 17:41:32 <Stablean> <Dom> the thing is though that the ML is more important and so the bridges can jam 17:41:42 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> mhhh 17:42:30 <Stablean> <Dom> also the first thing oyu build there 17:42:32 <Stablean> <Dom> is wrong 17:42:36 <Stablean> <Surfer2010> what about back where i put my sign "this makes is big" 17:42:45 <Stablean> <Dom> because always split before join 17:42:56 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #9 17:43:00 <Stablean> <Dom> well 17:43:06 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #2 17:43:14 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #9 17:43:58 <Stablean> <Dom> yes 17:44:56 <Stablean> <Dom> so that trains do not need to drive the same track again 17:45:54 <Stablean> <Dom> anyway i gtgo 17:45:57 <Stablean> <Dom> cya later 17:46:01 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 17:46:26 <Stablean> *** Berkel joined the game 17:46:30 <Stablean> *** Surfer2010 has left the game (leaving) 18:04:52 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:05:23 <Stablean> *** [FR]Syl59 has left the game (processing map took too long) 18:05:23 <Stablean> *** [FR]Syl59 has left the game (connection lost) 18:06:03 <Stablean> *** {[FR]Syl59} joined the game 18:08:57 <Stablean> *** [FR]Syl59 has left the game (leaving) 18:23:33 <Stablean> *** Berkel has joined spectators 18:23:34 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:23:38 <Stablean> *** Berkel has joined company #6 18:23:38 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:44:51 <Stablean> *** Berkel has left the game (leaving) 18:44:51 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:10:21 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:10:21 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:10:25 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 20:10:25 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:12:09 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 20:14:32 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:14:32 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:14:36 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 20:14:36 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:14:40 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #4 20:14:40 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:37:08 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (leaving) 20:37:42 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (processing map took too long) 20:37:42 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (connection lost) 20:38:01 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has started a new company (#8) 20:38:05 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has joined spectators 20:39:01 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (leaving) 20:46:38 *** Dixon296 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:58:21 <V453000> Dixon296: I have some news 20:58:35 <Dixon296> ? 20:58:57 <V453000> we will most likely parasite on CHIPS and improve that 20:59:11 <V453000> eventually even giving cargo sprites to industrial stations renewal 20:59:18 <V453000> because NML doesnt support stations 20:59:26 <V453000> and we arent doing nfo, at least I am not :D 20:59:37 <Dixon296> ok 21:00:00 <V453000> nfo is ... this for example http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchstations/repository/entry/roofs.hnfo 21:00:03 <V453000> true hell if you ask me 21:00:33 <V453000> from what I think we will be doing now, there are sources of chips on the devzone, which is basically templates of cargoes 21:00:40 <V453000> we can add more of those, and that should be it 21:00:42 <V453000> easy 21:01:08 <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/show/graphics_sources 21:01:13 <V453000> grab one there 21:01:15 <V453000> for example alcohol 21:01:19 <V453000> and open it in photoshop 21:01:22 <Dixon296> nfo looks hard 21:01:23 <V453000> you will see then 21:01:32 <V453000> nfo is fucking batshit outright insane 21:05:44 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:06:35 <Dixon296> yea i see had to use gimp though 21:06:55 <Dixon296> downloaded the wrong photoshop :P 21:07:20 <V453000> the CS2 didnt work? 21:07:51 <Dixon296> i cliked that but the file was cs6 21:08:11 <V453000> :d 21:08:19 <Dixon296> think i can get a trial period on that though 21:09:54 <V453000> there might be something like when you register you get a full CS2 key 21:11:53 <Dixon296> hope so cos dont like gimp 21:13:58 <V453000> :D 21:22:42 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 21:22:42 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:22:47 <V453000> I am currently setting up environment which communicates with the devzone 21:22:50 <V453000> will tell you later 21:23:02 <V453000> but the psd templates from the chips devzone is all you need for now 21:23:36 <Dixon296> k i think i found the right download now 21:26:21 <Dixon296> gtg out now back a few hours cya 21:34:24 *** Dixon296 has quit IRC 21:34:48 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:34:48 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:34:49 <Stablean> *** Berkel joined the game 21:47:13 <Stablean> *** Berkel has left the game (leaving) 21:47:13 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:58:41 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 22:04:36 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 22:14:12 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 22:28:20 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 22:29:00 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 22:32:38 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 22:32:38 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 22:44:18 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 23:02:10 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:02:10 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 23:02:14 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 23:02:14 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:02:32 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #4 23:02:32 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 23:03:11 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 23:03:18 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 23:03:33 <Stablean> <Player> hey 23:03:43 <Stablean> <Player> :0 23:05:16 <Stablean> *** iklucas joined the game 23:06:53 <Stablean> *** iklucas has left the game (leaving) 23:20:10 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 23:28:16 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 23:39:10 <Stablean> *** Sentry has started a new company (#8) 23:39:13 <Stablean> *** Sentry joined the game 23:40:26 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi sentry and welcume to the game 23:40:48 <Stablean> <Sentry> hi 23:42:17 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:42:17 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (connection lost) 23:53:10 <Stablean> *** Sentry has left the game (general timeout) 23:53:10 <Stablean> *** Sentry has left the game (connection lost) 23:53:48 <Stablean> *** Sentry joined the game 23:54:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> player u mite whnt to port a password on your cumpany so no play can get in 23:54:34 <Stablean> <Sentry> ok 23:55:37 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wher ar u taker that fram to 23:56:12 <Stablean> <Sentry> To the food factory near Grennford