Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 8th April 2013:
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00:21:10  <Stablean> <Comito> Don't know why this town needs food to be refrigerated
00:21:24  <Stablean> <Comito> It's covered in snow
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04:21:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> hey meech
04:21:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> woo!
04:21:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hey Boss
04:22:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> so many teams here
04:22:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> Troy's network had a meltdown
04:22:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i noticed, i dodnt have his password
04:23:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I like V's wetrail goods ships
04:23:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> stacks and stacks of crates
04:24:03  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yup
04:24:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> his paper ships could have rolls of paper too instead of just sheets
04:24:57  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh, you are in Troy's company
04:25:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah
04:25:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> it looked like it double jammed
04:25:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> he lost his secondary industries
04:25:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> the 2-ways pbs's looked like it fucked it up hard
04:25:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ah right
04:27:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> jamming again
04:27:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
04:28:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> usuelly he does well with not breaking his own networks
04:29:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> if you're gonna break something, might as well make it spectacular
04:29:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> he did that right
04:29:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> true that
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04:33:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> interesting transfer at ishus west
04:33:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> that was mine
04:33:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> nice
04:33:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> I couldn't build the print shop where it needed
04:34:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm
04:34:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> what am I gonna do with this forest that took a walk...
04:41:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> fund a bunch of new forests!
04:41:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> :P
04:41:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
04:42:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> livestock on the monorails cracks me up
04:43:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> like mine?
04:43:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yes
04:43:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> V should steal sprites for his wetrails
04:43:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> cubed piggies
04:43:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> stack em high
04:43:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> :D
04:43:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> stacked cows
04:43:55  <Stablean> <Sylf> but you'll miss the brown duckies
04:44:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I would but I know he loves his sprites
04:45:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> man im tired
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04:45:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> you should see the temperate climate valuable on ships
04:46:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> they are golden duckies
04:46:14  <Stablean> <Big Meech> niiiice
04:46:25  <Stablean> <Big Meech> gold bars and giant bags with $ on them might be neat too
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04:50:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ah, youre working there anyhow
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04:58:57  <Stablean> <Big Meech> dnz-ali been pimping out the wetrails
04:59:07  <Stablean> <Big Meech> island is more water than land
05:00:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's the way to do it
05:00:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> gotta love dihydrogen monoxide rails
05:01:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's rust proof.
05:01:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> maybe not for the ships though
05:01:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> no rust, no corrosion
05:01:30  <Stablean> <Big Meech> puts all the grave diggers to work carving out rails
05:01:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> true
05:01:51  <Stablean> <Big Meech> not much to do in silkebo
05:02:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> anyhoo im gonna go to bed
05:02:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> im beat
05:02:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> okidoki
05:02:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> seeya sometime later today xD
05:02:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> :P
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07:13:38  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 7
07:13:38  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
07:15:48  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 8
07:15:48  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
07:24:57  <Stablean> <ROM5419> hi
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07:25:01  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
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07:46:26  <Stablean> <V453000> moooorning :)
07:46:40  <Stablean> <ROM5419> morning? it's f***ing 4PM here.
07:46:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi v
07:47:18  <Stablean> <V453000> morning for europeans :)
07:47:40  <Stablean> <ROM5419> ohhh... maybe a separate greeting for asians? (just saying.)
07:48:26  <Stablean> <V453000> asians? I though 4pm is in US now
07:48:41  <Stablean> <ROM5419> erm thats 4AM for US.
07:48:51  <Stablean> <V453000> ohhhh
07:48:57  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
07:49:04  <Stablean> <V453000> well hi :D
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07:49:35  <Stablean> <V453000> nice name
07:49:38  <Stablean> <V453000> could you please fix that?
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07:49:50  <Stablean> <V453000> solvd :d
07:50:12  <Stablean> <V453000> oh it was some symbols -.-
07:50:14  <Stablean> <V453000> saw it as ??
07:50:24  <Stablean> <ROM5419> not symbols. ideograms.
07:50:35  <Stablean> <V453000> ..
07:50:43  <Stablean> <ROM5419> also read as ching ching cheng chong.
07:50:58  <Stablean> <V453000> that is equally random to me as any symbols :D but it sounds funny
07:51:56  <Stablean> <ROM5419> still waiting for THE SLUG
07:52:06  <Stablean> <V453000> about 2.5 more hours
07:52:08  <Stablean> <ROM5419> ...
07:52:18  <Stablean> <V453000> 2070
07:52:20  <Stablean> <V453000> .
08:20:53  <Stablean> <ROM5419> BTW, what are WETrails?
08:21:27  <Stablean> <V453000> what would they be
08:21:45  <Stablean> <ROM5419> i'm guessing very damp railway tracks?
08:22:03  <Stablean> <V453000> no idea, check yourself
08:22:41  <Stablean> <ROM5419> those strange articulated ships and hovercats (nyan successor?) seem strange
08:23:00  <Stablean> <V453000> no.
08:23:06  <Stablean> <V453000> they are strange
08:23:36  <Stablean> <ROM5419> this whole set is strange. tell this to the model rail manufacturers and see what you get.
08:23:38  <Stablean> <V453000> and it will only get worse
08:23:52  <Stablean> <V453000> cant say I give a shit about model manufacturers
08:24:10  <Stablean> <V453000> or that they are anyhow related to openttd
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08:49:00  <Stablean> <V453000> hel000
08:49:03  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Hello :)
08:49:07  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Where to start :)
08:49:14  <Stablean> <V453000> in the watery hell
08:49:40  <Stablean> <ROM5419> forgive him, he's on drugs. Where's your doctorate?
08:50:03  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I've been here before :)
08:50:29  <Stablean> <V453000> the worst part is I am not on drugs or any other thing which twists mindz
08:50:40  <Stablean> <V453000> its all natural \o/
08:50:58  <Stablean> <ROM5419> i wonder what your  parents think.
08:51:16  <Stablean> <V453000> dunno, they definitely dont think I am normal either
08:51:22  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Found it!
08:51:40  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Wet rails? O.o
08:51:47  <Stablean> <ROM5419> canals.
08:52:05  <Stablean> <ROM5419> with hidden guideways
08:52:05  <Stablean> <V453000> WETRails.
08:54:31  <Stablean> <V453000> why are you building maglev? :d
08:54:34  <Stablean> <V453000> wtf is this madness
08:54:42  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Erm... it's fast?
08:54:52  <Stablean> <ROM5419> what should we make then?
08:54:54  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> You can't transport coal too fast?
08:54:57  <Stablean> <ROM5419> vactrains?
08:55:08  <Stablean> <ROM5419> startrams?
08:55:18  <Stablean> <ROM5419> teleportation gates?
08:55:25  <Stablean> <ROM5419> large flying snails?
08:56:12  <Stablean> <V453000> wetrails.
08:56:27  <Stablean> <V453000> :>
08:57:05  <Stablean> <ROM5419> i have only one WETrails route :)
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09:03:16  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I'm waiting for FedEx
09:03:58  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> O.o
09:04:06  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Why is dark blue using mandated servicing?
09:04:13  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> At Ulfby Woods
09:05:28  <Stablean> <Muel> hi
09:05:46  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Also... will there be sponge cake
09:05:48  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> with buttermilk
09:05:54  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> and really thick icing
09:06:00  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> if so... I want a corner piece
09:06:51  <Stablean> <V453000> watch the colour of wagons carefully and you will realize it isnt forced servicing
09:07:22  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> It'a a refit to... wood?
09:07:52  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Wow, I never used orders that complex before :)
09:08:10  <Stablean> <V453000> that isnt complex yet :)
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09:11:32  <V453000> zz :)
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09:17:08  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> WOOOO
09:18:54  <Stablean> <ROM5419> I must say, the craziest thing about NUTS is the livestock graphics
09:19:16  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> them different colour pigs?
09:19:26  <Stablean> <ROM5419> yup. and why pigs?
09:19:36  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> that's all pigs are used for
09:19:51  <V453000> I like animals, yes
09:19:57  <Stablean> <ROM5419> i have to go now
09:20:25  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I think it's funny how furries are always 'cool' animals
09:20:39  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> You never get any furries who think pigs, rats and ferrets or snakes are cool
09:20:43  <Stablean> <ROM5419> so long and thanks for all the WETrails
09:20:46  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> It's all foxes, vixens, dogs, cats, etc
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09:24:59  <V453000> I actually have a pet snail
09:25:02  <V453000> sooo ... :)
09:25:08  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> snails are cool
09:28:55  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I want a cockatiel
09:30:00  <V453000> mah, my friend is totally obsessed with birds
09:30:06  <V453000> cant say I like them tho
09:30:33  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> They fly!
09:33:49  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I'm getting a shower, brb
09:51:52  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> So fresh :p
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10:06:30  <Stablean> <Diablo> hi dr d
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10:08:05  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Hello Diablo
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10:28:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi V
10:28:41  <Stablean> <V453000> yooo
10:28:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you replaced my trains?
10:28:50  <Stablean> <V453000> no
10:29:00  <Stablean> <V453000> I didnt touch a thing
10:29:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, okay
10:29:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> must be Meech then, I think
10:29:35  <Stablean> <V453000> no clue
10:30:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, Vinnie
10:30:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> he did
10:30:53  <Stablean> <V453000> how did you guess that? :)
10:31:03  <Stablean> <V453000> idk if Vinnie was even here
10:31:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, he put a sign near a previous jam of mine
10:31:12  <Stablean> <V453000> might have been
10:31:14  <Stablean> <V453000> right :)
10:32:45  <Stablean> <V453000> all early steamers redrawn/massively enhanced :>
10:32:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> good
10:36:31  <Stablean> <V453000> BTW I should show you something
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10:38:25  <Stablean> <V453000> look at that
10:38:36  <Stablean> <V453000> and tell me how did NOBODY notice it since version 0.0.1 :DDD me neither
10:38:44  <Stablean> <V453000> just noticed now when looking at the actual sprites :D
10:38:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I don't notice black/red roof
10:38:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but the chimney is new to me yeah
10:39:06  <Stablean> <V453000> on the right it is better visible
10:39:08  <Stablean> <V453000> the roof
10:39:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, wait, I see
10:39:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> only those 2 have red roof
10:39:28  <Stablean> <V453000> well, fixed now :D
10:39:30  <Stablean> <V453000> ye
10:39:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, nice
10:40:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you didn't mirror images?
10:40:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for instance
10:40:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the top one could be the mirror of the bottom one
10:40:24  <Stablean> <V453000> apparently I did not in this case
10:40:28  <Stablean> <V453000> normally I do nowadays
10:40:34  <Stablean> <V453000> they are very poorly drawn too
10:40:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> one does and one doesn't have a chimney
10:40:40  <Stablean> <V453000> just the old sprites :)
10:40:44  <Stablean> <V453000> yes I see it
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10:41:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and you checked for all the trains?
10:41:06  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 8
10:41:06  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
10:41:15  <Stablean> <V453000> well just a nice little detail :)
10:41:15  <Stablean> <V453000> no
10:41:31  <Stablean> <V453000> if nobody noticed it then it isnt probably a big problem :P
10:41:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, apparently
10:43:21  <Stablean> <V453000> I bet there are more issues like that
10:43:36  <Stablean> <V453000> for example loading stages not being in the right sequence sometimes or such details
10:43:54  <Stablean> <V453000> it is easy to screw up if you do them en-masse
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10:54:27  <Stablean> <V453000> how is your density Troy? :P
10:54:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> alright
10:55:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but I've figured that you can't 'occupy' every block on the rail,unless you pack
10:55:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the space between unstopped trains is about 3 blocks, even with these engines
10:55:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so with this TL, you can get a maximum of 70%
10:56:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ideally that is
10:56:38  <Stablean> <V453000> it isnt only about the acceleration
10:56:41  <Stablean> <V453000> trains get longer on diagonals
10:56:51  <Stablean> <V453000> that is what is "unpacking" them in your case
10:57:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, strange things do happen on tracks in this case
10:57:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, okay
10:57:07  <Stablean> <V453000> that is why pzg13 had 5 tile gaps between each trains
10:57:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> is that it...
10:57:17  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
10:57:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I noticed some mini-slows
10:57:29  <Stablean> <V453000> observe a train, it will "grow" when it is on a diagonal
10:57:35  <Stablean> <V453000> yep that is most likely that
10:57:42  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#8)
10:57:51  <Stablean> <V453000> see !here
10:58:25  <Stablean> <V453000> lol X E Qt R costs same as T-1000
10:58:51  <Stablean> <V453000> shit overflown power :D
10:59:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> overflown power?
10:59:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> then it goes back to 0 or something?
10:59:31  <Stablean> <V453000> something like that
10:59:37  <Stablean> <V453000> anyway behold experiment
10:59:47  <Stablean> <V453000> train 1 will slow down
10:59:54  <Stablean> <V453000> like that
11:00:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
11:00:18  <Stablean> <V453000> thats all :)
11:00:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
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11:00:48  <Stablean> <V453000> it is an ancient "bugů
11:00:51  <Stablean> <V453000> "bug"
11:01:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, but you could partly  negotiate with that by extra signaling in corners, I think
11:01:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cuase my trains are still 3 blocks from eachother
11:02:06  <Stablean> <ACM> I sometimes wish for a Transport Tycoon with variable gradients, accurate diagonals and no disparity between rail and road lane per tile.
11:02:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, or are they...
11:02:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, there will always be something
11:02:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> some people wish for signals in tunnels, for example ;)
11:03:06  <Stablean> <ACM> Also, signals on bridges and tunnels.
11:03:21  <Stablean> <V453000> agressive signalling does help but with true packing it obviously wont solve it :)
11:03:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> true
11:05:07  <Stablean> <V453000> it doesnt really matter in most cases especially if you use TL3 and some relatively normal engines
11:05:25  <Stablean> <V453000> I think the agressive signals actually do solve it for TL3 with trains like AL10 or Duke NutEm
11:05:59  <Stablean> <V453000> btw most important are signals before corners
11:06:05  <Stablean> <V453000> but I guess that is what you meant
11:06:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> signals before and the first signal in the corner
11:06:33  <Stablean> <V453000> pretty much
11:06:51  <Stablean> <V453000> making whoel corner with signals cant hurt either :>
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11:08:01  <Stablean> <V453000> also I noticed a VERY interesting behaviour of randomization on chameleons
11:08:11  <Stablean> <V453000> when they leave station the randoms can be different (different colours)
11:08:17  <Stablean> <V453000> when they leave depot, they seem to have the same colour
11:08:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> when the engine is leaving, or the whole train?
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11:10:21  <Stablean> <V453000> wa :D
11:10:27  <Stablean> <V453000> the engines which are in the train? :D
11:10:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> will it still show up the same if you have
11:10:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> a TL 9 train when the back part is leaving the depot?
11:11:01  <Stablean> <V453000> I think so
11:11:08  <Stablean> <V453000> I mean
11:11:10  <Stablean> <V453000> at the start
11:11:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and then, when it is completely out, it changes?
11:11:17  <Stablean> <V453000> when it starts
11:11:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
11:11:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so only when the engine comes out
11:11:55  <Stablean> <V453000> well it has to come out sometime :D
11:12:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, but it has already changed when the rest of the train must still come out
11:14:13  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
11:14:25  <Stablean> <V453000> the randomization triggers upon train getting green signal out of the depot
11:14:29  <Stablean> <V453000> OH
11:14:37  <Stablean> <V453000> interesting
11:14:48  <Stablean> <V453000> it does it in terminus stations too
11:14:58  <Stablean> <V453000> that has to do something with the front/back I guess
11:15:08  <Stablean> <V453000> k not always
11:15:10  <Stablean> <V453000> asdf
11:15:12  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
11:15:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
11:15:53  <Stablean> <V453000> well well
11:15:57  <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt  really matter :)
11:18:15  <Stablean> <V453000> hm I want to redraw also the rest of fast trains cuz they look totally terrible except the 2 most modern ones, but got no inspiration :s
11:21:21  <Stablean> <V453000> lunch will have to be the thing
11:21:23  <Stablean> <V453000> cya later
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11:21:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bye
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11:28:30  <Stablean> <ROM5419> Back from my EVIL SLUMBER.
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11:45:18  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  troy
11:45:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi happy
11:45:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
11:46:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> alright, bit busy now
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12:03:13  <Stablean> <ROM5419> EXITING
12:03:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> OKAY
12:03:26  <Stablean> <ROM5419> WHO WANTS MONEH
12:03:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> NO, THANKS
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12:41:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how is  your  net werk  going troy
12:41:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> very good
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12:46:20  <Stablean> <Dom> hi
12:46:22  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi dom
12:46:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> lo
12:46:28  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how things
12:46:42  <Stablean> <Dom> well and you
12:46:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
12:46:59  <Stablean> <Dom> lol Troy why double superstrong?
12:47:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> (near-)instant acceleration
12:47:25  <Stablean> <Dom> true that
12:47:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I want to have a real dense network
12:47:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at least at the last piece of my mainline
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13:04:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> dom  see  my sign  say  b  and   b2
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13:08:04  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be back later
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13:20:47  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
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13:40:11  <Stablean> <Comito> Oh, hey Troy
13:40:17  <Stablean> <Comito> I see you managed to unjam your trains
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13:46:06  <Stablean> <Dom> wb
13:46:13  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
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13:58:39  <Stablean> <Dom> you're welcome
14:03:50  <Stablean> <Dom> why do you have 2 drops for livestock/grain?
14:04:00  <Stablean> <Dom> oh
14:04:00  <Stablean> <Dom> ok
14:04:03  <Stablean> <Dom> hmm
14:06:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> BOOOM!
14:06:31  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
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14:06:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> crash...
14:06:52  <Stablean> <Dom> xD
14:06:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  sorry
14:07:04  <Stablean> <Dom> shit happens xD
14:07:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so it seems...
14:07:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :)
14:17:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, okay
14:18:03  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
14:18:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, I wanted to do this superstrong thing to make my network as dense as possible
14:18:31  <Stablean> <Dom> yes?
14:18:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so I'm thinking, how can I measure that
14:18:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, you have an overview of how many rail pieces you have
14:18:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but it isn't entirely correct
14:19:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so okay, one diagonal piece corresponds to one rail piece
14:19:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> however..
14:19:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if you would look !here
14:19:33  <Stablean> <Dom> yes
14:19:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that corresponds to '4' rail pieces
14:21:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> don't you think that's odd?
14:22:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi player
14:23:42  <Stablean> <Dom> so what do you now mean by that?=
14:23:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> although that's probably the way they want to penalize companies if that special rail maintenance is on
14:24:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's internal conversation, I presume?
14:24:39  <Stablean> <Dom> hmm idk you confused me with all that for now xD anyway gtgo bbl and then explain pls :D
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14:24:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
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14:24:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb
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14:41:57  <Sylf> Hey Troy
14:42:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi Sylf
14:42:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  sylf
14:42:34  <Sylf> I saw your company had a major lock-up, so I abused my power and didd couple fixes
14:42:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, you too :)
14:42:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> np man
14:43:37  <Sylf> That jam was spectacular
14:43:42  <Sylf> <3
14:43:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> very long probably
14:43:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what was the root problem?
14:44:39  <Sylf> Thhere was one spot that relied on siingle line for 2 way connections,  with PBS on both ends
14:44:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, right
14:45:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I think I know what you mean
14:45:07  <Sylf> one of the trains exiting the area blocked that line
14:45:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you made it into regular oneway rail?
14:45:19  <Sylf> yeah
14:45:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, that part was still ghetto
14:45:44  <Sylf> then the refit station in front of paper pickup also made ajam
14:45:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> eventually it breaks...
14:45:55  <Sylf> so  I placed exit signals right after depots
14:46:17  <Sylf> both the paper mill and print shops closed, so I funded them
14:46:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, was there already a sign by Vinnie by then?
14:46:25  <Sylf> Yeah.
14:46:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, I noticed the new locations too
14:46:42  <Sylf> But his fixes weren't enough with the ddoomsday sized jam
14:46:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you made new transfers too, right?
14:46:52  <Sylf> yeah
14:47:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, I added something to the transfers to boost rating
14:47:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> faster engines...
14:48:12  <Sylf> I allso changed one station from terminus to ro-ro, so it has more waiting space
14:48:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, near the other stations right?
14:48:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> anyway, I've changed those stations again...
14:48:41  <Sylf> I think so
14:48:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> had to double my rails
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15:00:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> at  your  goods  transfer     that  i think  won  day  won ov  the  trans  will  crash
15:00:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, they won't
15:00:26  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
15:00:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not as long as that pbs signal is there
15:00:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if that goes away
15:00:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they will crash instantly...
15:00:57  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
15:02:56  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  be back later
15:02:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
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16:42:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> greets
16:42:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
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17:04:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wb
17:04:05  <Stablean> <V453000> moo
17:04:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> oom
17:04:41  <Stablean> <V453000> out of mana? :P
17:05:03  <Stablean> <Jam35> Australian
17:05:26  <Stablean> <V453000> omg slugs on railz
17:05:28  <Stablean> <V453000> z_z
17:06:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> you haven't drawn slime trail yet :P
17:06:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> is self-competing against the rules?
17:06:16  <Stablean> <V453000> ...
17:06:22  <Stablean> <V453000> wa?
17:06:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> having 2 stations at one industry/secondary
17:06:50  <Stablean> <V453000> no why should it be
17:06:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dunno
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17:11:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so this is about what I was aiming for...
17:12:10  <Stablean> *** Player #1 has changed his/her name to Jannis
17:12:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> his/her
17:12:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> has it always been Player has changed his/her name?
17:12:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> think so
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17:28:25  <Stablean> <V453000> btw Troy McClure teh speed for station rating is capped at 255
17:28:29  <Stablean> <V453000> if train speed is higher it doesnt matter
17:28:31  <Stablean> <V453000> :p
17:28:38  <Stablean> <V453000> in kmh
17:28:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, you said so before
17:29:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> those high speed maglev aren't really necessary
17:29:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but they make it up to 255+
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17:29:31  <Stablean> <V453000> well almost every other modern NUTS train does :D except rail superstrong,strong and medium
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17:32:36  <Stablean> <V453000> you know which train is most effective throughput-wise with long TLs, right? :P
17:32:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nope
17:32:59  <Stablean> <V453000> will let you guessing :P
17:33:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> superstrong?
17:33:20  <Stablean> <V453000> nope
17:33:26  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> maglev?
17:33:38  <Stablean> <V453000> superstrong requires short CL but the raw throughput isnt that great
17:33:45  <Stablean> <V453000> maglev not by far as it has very low capacity wagons
17:34:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> chami?
17:34:27  <Stablean> <V453000> nay, those get very slow, loading speed rather sucks, and the capacity isnt that great with longer trains
17:34:41  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> strong then? or medium?
17:34:59  <Stablean> <V453000> no, but you are running out of options :D
17:35:05  <Stablean> <V453000> (progress)
17:35:07  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> fast :p
17:35:25  <Stablean> <V453000> rail fast is very effective if you can make downhills
17:35:28  <Stablean> <V453000> which is only viable with short trains
17:35:34  <Stablean> <V453000> we have long trains here :)
17:35:48  <Stablean> <V453000> so the winner is
17:37:06  <Stablean> <V453000> read the additional info about monorail fast :P
17:37:49  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> fast monorail?
17:37:53  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
17:37:59  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> gains power every wagon
17:38:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah
17:38:12  <Stablean> <V453000> that means 32k power per engine at TL10
17:38:23  <Stablean> <V453000> nothing can beat that in raw throughput :P
17:38:30  <Stablean> <V453000> comes with CL10 however in that case
17:38:39  <Stablean> <V453000> here on the straight part Troy has ... :) you get the point
17:38:45  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> i like the tl10 superstrong im using in a sp game atm
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17:38:59  <Stablean> <V453000> superstrong is excellent thanks to the low CL
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17:39:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> reduced capacity for monorail
17:39:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but increase in how fast it loads
17:40:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if you have the space for those large corners, it is the best option
17:40:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but as you say, superstrong has low cl
17:40:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> big plus in that case
17:40:38  <Stablean> <V453000> CL10 is barely possible
17:40:41  <Stablean> <V453000> on normal maps
17:42:03  <Stablean> <V453000> get fast monorails Troy :P
17:42:09  <Stablean> <V453000> 2 or 3 engines will greatly suffice there
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17:54:49  <Stablean> <Comito> Seems like everyone's making the jump to maglev
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18:09:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I've thought about it
18:09:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 2 enginge monorail capped at 160 kph
18:09:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or 4xduke nutem
18:09:53  <Stablean> <Comito> Does having two engines affect anything?
18:09:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
18:10:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> affects hp and TE
18:10:08  <Stablean> <Comito> Easier to climb hills?
18:10:13  <Stablean> <Comito> TE?
18:10:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how fast it accelerates and how it can climb hills
18:10:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, difficult calculation, but TE is for acceleration and climbing hills
18:10:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and hp for  acceleration
18:10:42  <Stablean> <Comito> I'll have to keep that in mind
18:10:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 2x fast mono has 360 capacity
18:11:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 4xduke has 350 capacity
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18:11:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> could also go with 3x duke and 385 capacity...
18:11:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm
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18:12:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm
18:12:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> takes one block later to reach full speed
18:12:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> although...
18:17:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, 3x duke
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18:24:01  <Stablean> <V453000> it is a bit different than that Troy
18:24:12  <Stablean> <V453000> both matter in both hills and accelerating
18:24:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> different than what?
18:24:21  <Stablean> <V453000> each of them only does something a bit different
18:24:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I've just had some drag races
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18:24:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, TE and hp
18:24:41  <Stablean> <V453000> T.E is acceleration in low speeds mainly
18:24:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I said it was difficult
18:24:57  <Stablean> <V453000> so if you have high T.E. your trains shoot forward quickly from stop, which is very important
18:25:11  <Stablean> <V453000> while power basically defines how quickly the train reaches the top speed
18:25:45  <Stablean> <V453000> im not sure how hills exactly work
18:25:55  <Stablean> <V453000> but how often do you get problems with hills ... :)
18:26:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sometimes
18:28:04  <Stablean> <V453000> a fair point is though, that reducing train speed by orders can change a lot of things
18:28:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but it is laborous
18:28:32  <Stablean> <V453000> pretty much
18:28:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and it this case, it doesnt add anything
18:29:17  <Stablean> <V453000> actually probably not yeah
18:29:25  <Stablean> <V453000> as the monorail fast does not have tilt
18:29:47  <Stablean> <Comito> Looks like Staravia uses as minimal signals as possible
18:29:51  <Stablean> <V453000> if it had tilt, it could almost be as good as superstrong ... except the missing capacity which would be given back in speed
18:30:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> true
18:30:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but I'm with CL3 corners here mostly
18:30:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so that would mean 164 kph, I think
18:30:37  <Stablean> <V453000> CL3 is 160 yeah
18:30:47  <Stablean> <V453000> but for monorail it is 1.5x higher
18:30:50  <Stablean> <V453000> so about 240
18:30:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm
18:31:22  <Stablean> <V453000> if you add tilt, 20% more
18:31:32  <Stablean> <V453000> 302 to be exact
18:31:35  <Stablean> <V453000> (monomedium speed)
18:32:23  <Stablean> <V453000> probably the most common "hack" through timetabled speed is lowering speed of pax trains to intergrate them into cargo network
18:32:44  <Stablean> <Comito> I like how Staravia has decorated his stations
18:32:46  <Stablean> <V453000> I might want to consider giving cargo trains hauling pax wagons some actual advantage to make that unnecessary
18:33:33  <Stablean> <V453000> slight capacity bonus is always good I guess ... they already have loading speed bonus
18:34:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which one do?
18:34:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> monorail and rail load as fast
18:35:22  <Stablean> <V453000> cargo hauled pax wagons ?
18:35:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah
18:35:31  <Stablean> <V453000> they definitely load quicker than intercity
18:35:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> was thinking about general monorail/rail
18:36:12  <Stablean> <V453000> both have 5 stages atm
18:38:18  <Stablean> <Comito> What are uranium trains good for?
18:38:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they kill trees near the tracks
18:38:44  <Stablean> <V453000> great acceleration
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18:41:49  <Stablean> <Comito> I've never seen the 'President' title before
18:47:04  <Stablean> <V453000> the last one before tycoon :)
18:47:19  <Stablean> <Comito> I can't even imagine what you need to get that title
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18:48:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> maybe 1000 rating
18:48:13  <Stablean> <V453000> ^
18:48:52  <Stablean> <V453000> there should be like 500 vehicles instaed of 120 though :D
18:48:53  <Stablean> <V453000> or more
18:49:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I love shared orders
18:49:38  <Stablean> <V453000> what did you do :D
18:50:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> replace 2x superstrong with 3x duke nutem
18:50:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> did... it's still in progress
18:50:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but I shouldn't notice it
18:51:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> still, it's slightly worse on the acceleration
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18:51:53  <Stablean> <V453000> well superstrong is good in the fact that it doesnt really need doubling ever
18:52:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> So I did just that
18:52:14  <Stablean> <V453000> with extra long trains the acceleration lost is insignificant due to the curve bug
18:52:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> lol
18:52:21  <Stablean> <V453000> :P
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19:29:50  <Stablean> <Comito> Hey there!
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20:04:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> diablo, your drop needs to be bigger
20:05:17  <Stablean> <Diablo> coal drop right?
20:05:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
20:06:03  <Stablean> <Diablo> thx for the warning, i hadnt seen the backup there
20:06:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> rly?
20:06:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ok
20:06:30  <Stablean> <Diablo> yea, didnt c past bridges
20:08:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you need another combo at least
20:08:49  <Stablean> <Diablo> wud it b easier to tf water for land?
20:09:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> some, yeah\
20:09:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> with these, you don't need over 6 platforms
20:10:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> more is wasted...
20:10:31  <Stablean> <Diablo> thx
20:10:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> plus, the layout is far from perfect
20:12:07  <Stablean> <Diablo> so move stn up
20:12:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that doesn't change the gap it makes
20:13:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> trains are waiting for other trains to clear the gap !between here !and here
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20:20:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nope
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20:28:29  <Stablean> <Diablo> thx troy
20:28:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> np
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22:14:31  <V453000> LOL
22:14:35  <V453000> best nickname ever
22:14:36  <V453000> :DDD
22:14:40  <V453000> hello
22:14:50  <Stablean> <New Folder(5)> hey
22:14:57  <Stablean> <New Folder(5)> thanks
22:15:03  <Stablean> <New Folder(5)> or something :/
22:15:20  <V453000> that is awesome :D
22:16:12  <Stablean> <New Folder(5)> well, there's still plenty of free numbers :)
22:16:22  <Stablean> <V453000> I know right :P
22:17:20  <Stablean> <V453000> there is one more company slot free :)
22:17:26  <Stablean> <New Folder(5)> yeah
22:17:26  <Stablean> <V453000> if you wanted to play
22:17:32  <Stablean> <New Folder(5)> i'm just checking out everything
22:17:50  <Stablean> <New Folder(5)> the openttd coop server isn't up0dated to the latest version of openttd
22:18:16  <Stablean> <V453000> well who would update every night
22:18:20  <Stablean> <V453000> r25137 atm
22:18:40  <Stablean> <New Folder(5)> i don't know the build numbers anyway
22:18:42  <Stablean> <V453000> you can get the version through IRC ... you need to obtain a password there anyway
22:20:09  <Stablean> <New Folder(5)> it's running nightlies?
22:20:16  <Stablean> <V453000> yes of course
22:20:27  <Stablean> <V453000> well of course ... it is
22:20:30  <Stablean> <New Folder(5)> how would i know :)
22:20:44  <Stablean> <V453000> it is written on the wiki :)
22:20:54  <Stablean> <New Folder(5)> that wiki is big :)
22:21:01  <Stablean> <V453000> well yes :)
22:21:35  <Stablean> <V453000> if you search for a quickstart you  get all the starting info you need
22:21:37  <Stablean> <New Folder(5)> i'll join the public server one of these days, but not tonight
22:21:40  <Stablean> <New Folder(5)> just wanted to check it out
22:21:43  <Stablean> <V453000> or just join the IRC and we can give you links
22:21:45  <Stablean> <V453000> sure
22:22:03  <Stablean> <V453000> the webpage contains IRC in one of the buttons on the top, you can connect through that
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23:30:35  <Stablean> <V453000> howgh
23:30:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ugh
23:31:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> man with long name, you remember me ugh
23:32:07  <Stablean> <V453000> wotefak? :D
23:32:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, I thought we were doing native american greetings
23:32:40  <Stablean> <V453000> right :D
23:32:42  <Stablean> <V453000> hm
23:34:06  <Stablean> <V453000> haha
23:34:32  <Stablean> <V453000> just wrote a post on czech tycoon forums about NUTS birthday ... nothing is as strong as Czech people envy, lets see what they say :D
23:35:23  <Stablean> <V453000> not to mention that the average intelligence on the forums is on a level of a mouse
23:35:54  <Stablean> <V453000> with just 1 bit brain, with options of hate Yes/DefinitelyYes
23:36:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> haha
23:37:14  <Stablean> <V453000> it is seriously funny to troll them though
23:42:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> haven't seen reactions in the forum topic, tho
23:42:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure>
23:42:09  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - MADMEN EVERYWHERE! [NUTS Unrealistic Train Set] (at
23:42:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not there at least
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23:42:55  <Stablean> <V453000> quite surprising indeed
23:43:37  <Stablean> <V453000> cant say I give a damn, but it is surprising, especially if I compare it to the amount of feedback I am getting from game/irc
23:44:16  <Stablean> <V453000> it honestly just shows what kind of people the forums are :)
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23:45:34  <Stablean> <V453000> but well, as I do about everything to make people hate me on the tt-forums, I dont think I can expect any other :P
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23:47:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, you really are a likeable person, aren't you ;)
23:47:37  <Stablean> <V453000> most definitely not there :P
23:48:17  <Stablean> <V453000> especially when I dared to say that signals on bridges are a retarded idea, the hate was off the scale :D
23:48:28  <Stablean> <V453000> twas great
23:48:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ghehe
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23:48:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> reading the post on junctions there now
23:48:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> people showing off junctions
23:49:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there's a response by you somewhere...
23:49:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just leafing through tho, atm
23:49:47  <Stablean> <V453000> idk, there are various relics of idiocy on the forums
23:50:05  <Stablean> <V453000> junction topic are typical
23:50:07  <Stablean> <V453000> topics
23:51:39  <Stablean> <V453000> well well, at least here it is idiot-proof :P
23:51:45  <Stablean> <V453000> either way, good night :)
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