Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 16th April 2013:
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00:57:46  <V453000> !date
00:57:46  <Stablean> V453000: 12 Aug 1971
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02:14:23  <Sylf> !rcon clients
02:14:23  <Stablean> Sylf: Client #1  name: 'Stablean'  company: 255  IP: server
02:14:23  <Stablean> Sylf: Client #92  name: 'Sylf'  company: 255  IP:
02:14:29  <Sylf> !rcon move 92 1
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05:26:54  <BiG_MeEcH> !date
05:26:54  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: 14 Jul 1978
05:26:58  <BiG_MeEcH> !players
05:27:01  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: There are currently no clients connected to the server
05:27:35  <BiG_MeEcH> !companies
05:27:38  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Company 1 (Pink): Sylf Transport
05:27:38  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Company 2 (Orange): happy tran  sport Transport
05:27:38  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Company 3 (Red): Vinnie Transport
05:27:38  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Company 4 (Dark Blue): [FR]Syl59 Transport
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11:33:27  <Stablean> <V453000> M00
11:33:29  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Haie
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11:44:11  <Stablean> <V453000> OMFG MOVEMENT
11:44:15  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
11:44:41  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> What have you drunk for breakfeast V ? x)
11:45:11  <Stablean> <V453000> tea of death
11:46:25  <Stablean> <V453000> I am trying to investigate how chameleons work in TL5
11:46:35  <Stablean> <V453000> they certainly have their uses there, too
11:46:37  <Stablean> <V453000> not just TL2
11:47:03  <Stablean> <V453000> btw you might find them useful in transfers, they are very effective in TL2
11:47:11  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I think Used them at TL 8 or 9
11:47:33  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Their load/unload speed is not high enough
11:47:39  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> BUT
11:47:49  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I may use them later
11:48:59  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Actually, I want to see what's the purpose of fast rail engines
11:49:10  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> dispite of their crap acceleration
11:52:16  <Stablean> <V453000> stfu their acceleration got boosted in the last version :D
11:52:35  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Are you kidding me ? xD
11:52:37  <Stablean> <V453000> nah they are pretty damn effective on longer distance when you have low traffic
11:52:59  <Stablean> <V453000> and with higher traffic if you build downhill merges they can be very effective
11:53:09  <Stablean> <V453000> idk their accelerations looks okay for a fast train
11:53:41  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> In my opinion, it is very slow
11:54:31  <Stablean> <V453000> well you cant have their acceleration to match medium or even strong
11:54:33  <Stablean> <V453000> ... :)
11:54:43  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I agree :)
11:54:49  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> That'sq why I never use fast rail
11:56:43  <Stablean> <V453000> if you give them downhill
11:56:45  <Stablean> <V453000> they rock
11:56:59  <Stablean> <V453000> it isnt easy
11:57:01  <Stablean> <V453000> but possible
11:58:45  <Stablean> <V453000> in general fast trains are the hardest trains to use
11:58:48  <Stablean> <V453000> applied always
11:59:03  <Stablean> <V453000> unfortunate coincidence is that noobs also go for speed only :D
11:59:29  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Unfortunetly
11:59:51  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I am with another community (a purely french one) and they want to do a game with a "coop style"
12:00:07  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Well, I said "banco"
12:00:27  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> And I let them begin, because I got exam's, lot of works etc etc ...
12:00:45  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> so I come a few days later and my lord ...
12:00:52  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> unless they use the NUTS
12:01:07  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> It was worst than happy tracks
12:01:13  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> fast rails engines
12:01:27  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> one engine per train etc etc ...
12:01:53  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I said to me, never mind, I put "slugs" and correct a few junctions
12:02:19  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> The day later, all was re-replace with fast rails engines ...
12:03:01  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and of course, it turn to a deadlock
12:03:59  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
12:04:01  <Stablean> <V453000> goulp?
12:04:12  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> xDDDDDDDDDD
12:04:14  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Yup
12:04:20  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> now "OpenTTDFrance"
12:04:38  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I began to play with them, I am now a moderator
12:04:57  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> but when I discover openttdcoop ... :D
12:04:59  <Stablean> <V453000> I was there like once ot twice when it wasnt passworded yet
12:05:18  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> OTTDF is the password if you want
12:05:29  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and I saw Vinnie a few time
12:06:43  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> But ... well, when everybody use PBS on all the tracks, in every situation they encounter ...
12:06:57  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> just because "it works like that" ... :)
12:07:49  <Stablean> <V453000> hm :)
12:08:07  <Stablean> <V453000> I think the only way to handle that is to play in more companies and show them how its done
12:08:09  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> see ? xD
12:09:24  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Mh ...
12:09:42  <Stablean> <V453000> dont think czech community was any better before I started playing on czech servers :)
12:10:00  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Can explain things to a 11-year-old boys who believe to know everything in this game ? :)
12:10:38  <Stablean> <V453000> well they certainly werent 11 year old :D and didnt think that
12:10:39  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> btw, how did you begin to play OpenTTD ?
12:10:53  <Stablean> <V453000> well I played TTD when I was a kid a little bit
12:10:55  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> In France, they are many
12:11:05  <Stablean> <V453000> aand found it again when I was on high school
12:11:44  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> like me ! xD
12:13:02  <Stablean> <V453000> somewhat :)
12:13:06  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I think you should to one of our servers, to see how it is
12:13:18  <Stablean> <V453000> I was on the toyland one
12:13:28  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> to see how horrible it is * :P
12:13:32  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Oh the last one ?
12:13:39  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> (still on toyland btw)
12:14:06  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> so ... ? :P
12:16:00  <Stablean> <V453000> well yeah just random noobs
12:16:11  <Stablean> <V453000> you need to build a large network to show them who is boss
12:16:47  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Mh ... I think I will do same thing like on the Public server
12:17:29  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> But well ... 500 trains without problems will be strong enough
12:17:47  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> my record was 643
12:18:13  <Stablean> <V453000> depends on density :P
12:18:27  <Stablean> <V453000> 200 trains can be enough if they are on a small pitch of land
12:18:57  <Stablean> <V453000> how do you think I made them listen to me on czech servers
12:19:03  <Stablean> <V453000> I just build stuff and they know something isnt right
12:19:25  <Stablean> <V453000> anybody with somewhat knowing coop has the ability to do that
12:19:28  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> hehe in France, they will just say "wow" and go away xD
12:19:39  <Stablean> <V453000> some will, some wont
12:19:49  <Stablean> <V453000> the server admins probably wont
12:19:59  <Stablean> <V453000> and that is who then teaches more people and spreads the influence
12:20:13  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Mh I see
12:20:23  <Stablean> <V453000> czech people often know be even before they meet me
12:21:17  <Stablean> <V453000> the unfortunate thing is that all of them do not really talk english so they dont get in touch with coop personally, which is a shame
12:21:36  <Stablean> <V453000> everyone who talks english at least a little bit is able to join, which is always better
12:21:58  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Do you know that French people are really bad with foreign languages ?
12:22:44  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and I remember, I post the ABR about the SNRW on the french community OTTD page
12:23:28  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and somebody said that he don't read it, 'cause it was in english ! :/
12:23:54  <Stablean> <V453000> well it is generally said that French people refuse to speak in english but it is also said that they only refuse to but can
12:24:16  <Stablean> <V453000> but yeah that is quite a problem
12:24:55  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Well, you know what ? I think I will begin with a REALLY simple network
12:25:03  <Stablean> <V453000> most czech people do not attempt to read it either, but that is mostly because they cant say a word. But the best czech players try to read it at all costs, with google translator, asking me about details, anyhow
12:25:13  <Stablean> <V453000> simple is best
12:25:23  <Stablean> <V453000> just connect a lot of stuff
12:25:29  <Stablean> <V453000> if it is simple they might even try to replicate it
12:25:35  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> ... saiys the man who had 543 trains in the last game ! :D
12:25:38  <Stablean> <V453000> if it is totally insane SRNW with 200 orders, they probably wont
12:25:48  <Stablean> <V453000> I didnt say small :)
12:25:50  <Stablean> <V453000> simple
12:26:01  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> your haub were really insane
12:26:04  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> hubs *
12:26:12  <Stablean> <V453000> side effect :)
12:26:26  <Stablean> <V453000> I mean that is the idea, you just build stuff slowly and add new bits
12:26:40  <Stablean> <V453000> you dont need to have an uber unique idea of some concept
12:26:56  <Stablean> <V453000> but for example refit is guaranteed to impress :)
12:27:10  <Stablean> <V453000> almost everyone on czech servers knows refit now
12:27:22  <Stablean> <V453000> just because I was starting to play with it there :)
12:27:28  <Stablean> <V453000> and they use it very oftenn
12:27:54  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Well ... I can't refit with the standard set of trains xD
12:28:09  <Stablean> <V453000> I have to admit that if there is one great thing about czech people, most of the active ones you can meet in games is that they often like playing large
12:28:24  <Stablean> <V453000> instead of the realistic cunts "omfg that is ugly, you have 2 rails and a tunnel, how unrealistic"
12:28:38  <Stablean> <V453000> well, then you need to melt their brains without refit and convice them to use NUTS later : D
12:28:54  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> or like "Urg, there is too many trains, add some trucks and planes"
12:29:20  <Stablean> <V453000> OH YEAH :D that is best :D THIS GAME IS UNBALANCED, everyone is using TRAINS!
12:29:20  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
12:29:30  <Stablean> <V453000> forums finest
12:30:22  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Shame, It can't load a map manually on a server
12:30:26  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I'm not admin
12:30:44  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> The best thing to do is to start a game in 20050, strat a money pump with planes
12:31:10  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I don't know if there is a command ...
12:32:04  <V453000> :d
12:32:27  <V453000> well I dont have too much of an idea bout that as everything is set up here for me :)
12:32:53  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> xDDD ok :)
12:33:23  <Stablean> <V453000> but convincing them to start new maps by uploading saves to the server is definitely a step forward
12:33:45  <Stablean> <V453000> but if they prefer to generate them on the server, it is possible too, just usually results in the same newGRFs every game
12:36:19  <Stablean> <V453000> most of the server actually look that way
12:36:38  <Stablean> <V453000> generally the admin just makes a newGRF config which is just used every single game
12:36:56  <Stablean> <V453000> oh how pissed are they when they need to update NUTS every game :D
12:37:27  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Mh ... look better now
12:37:34  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> on our coop server
12:37:48  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> sbdy has to convert to monorail with a fest engine
12:38:03  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> thing is, There is only one engine per trains
12:38:17  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and separeated networks
12:41:24  <Stablean> <V453000> mhm :)
12:45:55  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> V, please, when you do a tutorial, use the stable version of openttd when you do a demonstration :P
12:47:57  <Stablean> <V453000> fuck why :d
12:48:07  <Stablean> <V453000> coop version is nightly
12:48:53  <Stablean> <V453000> I in fact insist on making people update their openttd and trying the newer versions
12:49:03  <Stablean> <V453000> only that way bugreports and stuff can be made
12:58:45  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Mh I see :)
12:58:55  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> btw V, there is a problem with chami engines
12:59:25  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Yous ay in the wiki that they can have a speed bonus when they are two engines on a TL1 trains
12:59:32  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and there is no speed bonus ...
13:00:44  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> see "No speed bonus :'("
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17:31:21  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  v
17:32:19  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
17:32:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how things
17:34:43  <Stablean> <V453000> alright I guess
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17:39:33  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
17:39:39  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hello happy
17:39:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
17:40:00  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Good, you ?
17:40:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
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17:45:31  <BiG_MeEcH> Syl xD
17:48:14  <V453000> BiG_MeEcH: where is your company
17:49:08  <BiG_MeEcH> Where is your company V453000!?!
17:49:21  <BiG_MeEcH> :P
17:51:01  <BiG_MeEcH> !companies
17:51:04  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Company 1 (Pink): Sylf Transport
17:51:04  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Company 2 (Orange): happy tran  sport Transport
17:51:04  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Company 3 (Red): Vinnie Transport
17:51:04  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Company 4 (Grey): [FR]Syl59 Transport
17:57:45  <V453000> I had a company last game :)
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19:04:30  <BiG_MeEcH> :D
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19:51:38  <Stablean> <nicfer> hello
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20:01:13  <Stablean> <nicfer> what a crappy mouse
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20:09:34  <Stablean> <Johny> r u there V453? :)
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23:44:34  <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (connection lost)
23:44:36  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
23:45:08  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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