Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 7th June 2013:
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04:55:51  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wooooooooooo
04:56:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo boss
05:10:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi ? :)
05:11:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> yo
05:11:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
05:13:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> didnt look too well yesterday but it looks like some of the coal primaries have been redrawn
05:14:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> yes, that was done in version 1.1.0
05:14:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> very nice
05:14:47  <Stablean> <Big Meech> drop station is big for coal / scrap / iron
05:15:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> look how slow the unload is
05:15:25  <Stablean> <Big Meech> im watching
05:15:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> load is slow too
05:15:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> is that the polish trainset?
05:15:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> load and unload are same speed
05:16:02  <Stablean> <Big Meech> how many polocks does it take to unload a train? :P
05:16:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's these particular wagons in polish set
05:16:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> right on
05:17:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i like the cargo variety on the es trains
05:17:20  <Stablean> <Big Meech> nice to see colored cargo boxes
05:18:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> what are the two trakcs for that arent connected?
05:20:48  <Stablean> <Big Meech> machine ship drop needs expanding? :)
05:21:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah
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05:21:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> it needs to match the capacity of the pickup
05:22:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Im too tired
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05:22:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sorry, got up at 6:30am
05:22:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> gotta do the same today
05:26:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> steel pick probably needs expanding too xD
05:34:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh now i see your secret project
05:34:46  <Stablean> <Big Meech> if i have time tomorrow i will hook up some bauxite
05:34:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> but bedtime for me
05:34:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ttyl :)
05:35:11  <Stablean> <Sylf> see ya
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07:34:25  <Stablean> <Sassafrass> sylf
07:34:27  <Stablean> <Sassafrass> i like your trains
07:34:35  <Stablean> <Sylf> :)
07:36:13  <Stablean> <Sassafrass> can I help with anything?
07:36:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> not really right now
07:36:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm getting ready for bed here
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07:38:36  <Sylf> almost 3 AM  x.x
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11:37:15  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
11:37:25  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
11:37:40  <Stablean> <Anson> how/who can edit the channel topic ?
11:38:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> are we talking about this server or the welcome server?
11:38:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i mean Public server
11:38:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> because i see you are in the Public server channel
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11:38:50  <Stablean> <Anson> when the server went down some time ago, someone added "temporarily offline", but as can be seen, this is already the second game after that ...
11:39:00  <Stablean> <Anson> the welcome server
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11:39:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> lol
11:39:55  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oke let me see
11:40:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> only admins can change that
11:40:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> but im not sure how the stage command works
11:40:42  <Stablean> <Anson> i saw someone giving the command "topic add xxxxx" :-)
11:41:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> then a topic remove should fix it
11:41:04  <Stablean> <Anson> since then, the last part is "temp offline"
11:41:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> let me chack the loggs
11:41:26  <Vinnie_nl> @logs
11:41:26  <Webster> #openttdcoop IRC webstuff - IRC Log Viewer -
11:44:56  <Vinnie_nl> @topic remove 8
11:45:21  <Vinnie_nl> @topic remove 7
11:45:21  *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.3.1 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read | run !setdef after loading a new game |"
11:45:29  <Vinnie_nl> there you go
11:45:33  <Vinnie_nl> no longer offline
11:46:17  <Anson> :-)
11:46:38  <Stablean> <Anson> :-)
11:47:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you are not playing this game?
11:48:07  <Stablean> <Anson> firs is quite complicated to play it right ... thus i only study what other people do
11:48:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> want to play together?
11:48:51  <Stablean> <Anson> currently started reading the docs (http://bundles...../firs/LATEST/docs
11:49:09  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oke
11:49:31  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: not very userfriendly to have an URL use upper and lowercase :-(
11:49:49  <Stablean> <Anson> when you look at ..../latest/... the docs can't be found
11:51:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i wouldn't know mutch about it. just a player
12:01:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i have been looking at the site aswell, i can't find a flowchart there
12:03:26  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, exactly that is what i was looking for: a flowchart diagram ... now i try making one myself
12:04:13  <Vinnie_nl>
12:04:23  <Vinnie_nl> hidden on the openttdwiki
12:04:40  <Stablean> <Anson> but it is quite complicated when you try to add also the conditions, like industries raising production when getting supplies, or when getting several cargoes in a specific time, etc
12:05:08  <Vinnie_nl> you learn that by buildingthe network
12:05:52  <Vinnie_nl> oil to petrol to engineering supplies or coal to steel to engineering supplies is a good start
12:06:00  <Vinnie_nl> and self sustaining
12:06:32  <Stablean> <Anson> most indistries seem to increase production when getting several cargoes, or increase production when getting proper supplies ...
12:06:49  <Vinnie_nl> yes that is the power of FIRS
12:06:50  <Stablean> <Anson> but to make those supplies, you need a chain of resources and industries ...
12:07:22  <Vinnie_nl> trust me that on experience you make more then enough supplies to sustain those production increases
12:07:24  <Stablean> <Anson> if you don't start right, it costs lots of money and you won't get lots of income
12:07:51  <Vinnie_nl> no you can make a decent living in quantity
12:08:23  <Vinnie_nl> the quadruple production is to create train density on your lines
12:09:29  <Vinnie_nl> i only lost a parameter in FIRS,so i do not know if primary industries close without the feed of engineering/farm supplies
12:15:48  <Vinnie_nl> i think primaries need supplies in order to never close down
12:16:58  <Stablean> <Anson> newgrf settings -> firs -> show parameters : allow secondaries to close : off
12:17:17  <Stablean> <Anson> and in the docs, they write that primaries never close
12:18:47  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: thanks for the url of that PNG ... just studying it :-)
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13:21:15  <Vinnie_nl> goodluck
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15:47:00  <Stablean> <Anson> i hate authorities :-(
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16:53:35  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
16:53:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
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16:58:27  <Stablean> <V453000> mu
16:58:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
16:58:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
16:59:34  <Stablean> <V453000> is there no faster train yet?
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16:59:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> mine
17:00:04  <Stablean> <V453000> wtf are those wood containers :s
17:00:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i didn't draw this
17:01:24  <Stablean> <V453000> the drawing in general looks quite nice to be fair
17:02:30  <Stablean> <V453000> hm
17:02:41  <Stablean> <V453000> the high capacity wagons arent as dumb as they look in the first place
17:02:51  <Stablean> <V453000> as engines are longer
17:03:41  <Stablean> <V453000> looks like one of the nicer train sets
17:05:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> apart from the spelling of passenger
17:06:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> and the 'self discharging' something :D
17:06:59  <Stablean> <V453000> well right
17:07:06  <Stablean> <V453000> but it has nice trains with stats that make at least some sense
17:07:44  <Stablean> <Vinnie> arse
17:07:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> MM sucks
17:08:02  <Stablean> <V453000> I cant say I am too much of a fan of the huge ass sprites for engines, but it is original and doesnt glitch as much as it could
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17:25:45  <Vinnie_nl> always this
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17:27:54  <V453000> guess I dont need to ask if you want to join pz then :D
17:28:14  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we can do that with stable windows version :P
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18:02:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
18:02:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  jam
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18:06:37  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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18:09:35  <Stablean> <Jam35> weird those goods wagons have higher res when zoomed :)
18:10:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> I have no zbase or nuttin
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19:39:49  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
19:39:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> hello :)
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20:32:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  chris
20:33:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi happy tran  sport
20:33:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
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21:13:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> hey :)
21:13:14  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hia :)
21:13:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  dixon
21:13:25  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi happy
21:13:35  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
21:13:58  <Stablean> <Dixon296> ok thanks
21:14:04  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hows you
21:14:23  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
21:14:29  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
21:15:04  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> fill  free  to  john   dixon
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21:22:23  <V453000> hi :)
21:23:01  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hello V
21:23:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  v
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21:24:52  <Stablean> <V453000> why do you guys get 3+2 small wagons when 4 big ones would be better? :D
21:25:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> wagons have not been reaplced
21:26:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> since they were not available
21:26:11  <Stablean> <V453000> what?
21:26:29  <Stablean> <V453000> e.g. oil trains have 3 big wagons and  2 small ones
21:26:39  <Stablean> <V453000> the 2 small ones could be 1 big
21:26:41  <Stablean> <V453000> and be better off that way
21:27:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> ah that was to make the length right
21:27:43  <Stablean> <V453000> why would you do that if you can have higher capacity with 4 big wagons
21:28:01  <Stablean> <Jam35> didnt check capacity :)
21:28:19  <Stablean> <V453000> well 18x2 certainly isnt higher than 61 :P
21:28:21  <Stablean> <V453000> also gnight
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21:28:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> I know didnt check, bye
21:38:36  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
21:38:53  <Stablean> <Anson> can you tell me on which dates i have to deliver supplies ?
21:39:41  <Stablean> <Anson> i am delivering 21 every 20 days, thus 84 every 80 days, and still most of the time my production is only double
21:43:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> not sure Anson
21:46:14  <Stablean> <Anson> looks almost as if firs looks only at the last 3 months, including the current month ?
21:47:08  <Stablean> <Anson> thus you would need to deliver those 84 supplies in only TWO months to have a permanent quadruple production ....
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21:48:12  <Stablean> <Dixon296> bb all
21:48:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> bb
21:48:21  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb
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21:48:41  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb
21:48:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> bb
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22:09:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> cya
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