Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 21st June 2013:
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02:01:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
02:02:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> hey
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02:04:26  <Stablean> <Sylf> hm, what happened to maraxus' RV company...
02:04:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I have no idea
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02:05:35  <Stablean> <Sylf> looks like these uranium mines (which sounds really weird :P) sure produce lots of stuff
02:05:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the trains can't carry much tho
02:06:09  <Stablean> <Sylf> 10 tonnes per car.  I know.
02:07:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> so, you can really saturate the lines fast with very few primaries
02:07:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, that's true
02:08:29  <Stablean> <Sylf> hm.  nobody's using AEM-7
02:08:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> nobody's going for speedy delivery of uranium
02:09:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how fast is it?
02:09:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> I think 125MPH
02:09:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> 200km/h
02:09:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Americans...
02:09:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thank you :)
02:10:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I don't see a 200kph+ cargo train
02:10:35  <Stablean> <Sylf> weird.
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02:10:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> AEM-8?
02:10:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 7*
02:11:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> only regular rail Budd and UAC
02:11:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> huh.    most of the NARS locos are missing
02:11:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this is Jap set, I think
02:11:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> everything from 0-4-0 Grasshopper and down are NARS
02:11:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, Jap set
02:11:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and Nars override
02:12:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> don't know what that is
02:12:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, and Nars
02:12:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's odd
02:12:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> nars override lets you flip nars locos
02:12:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> isn't Jap set very similar to Nars anyway?
02:13:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> JP set has better HSR
02:13:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> but zero fast locos
02:13:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but for regular rail
02:13:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> quaint
02:13:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> anyways, I also don't remember a AEM-7, but that could be just me
02:13:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> also, JP set wagons can generally carry more
02:14:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> aem-7 or -8, I don't remember, but I thought it should be around by now.  I've had this kind of weirdness happen once before.
02:14:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> It must be NARS parameters
02:14:57  <Stablean> <MadDoctorMilton> no GG1 :/
02:15:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> GG1?
02:15:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what's that?
02:16:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> GG1 is an iconic american loco
02:16:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> it was going 160km/h back in 1940s, I think
02:16:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, okay
02:17:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> GG1 gets disabled when I disable NARS engine regearing feature
02:18:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> anyway.  have fun.
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02:18:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> will do, bye bye
02:40:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
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04:07:59  <Stablean> <MadDoctorMilton> take no prisoners
04:09:50  <Stablean> <MadDoctorMilton> what is a kanye anyway
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09:19:30  <Stablean> <<GriffinOneTwo>> Why is VisitHQ greyed out for me in Spec ?
09:19:45  <TWerkhoven> has the hq actually been built?
09:20:01  <TWerkhoven> it wont ungrey untill the company you're viewing has actually built their hq
09:20:43  <Stablean> <<GriffinOneTwo>> beats me, I'd huess not probably, I'm new to the game, and am trying to observe, ...
09:21:18  <TWerkhoven> i'd use the mini-map then, see the rail networks that have been built
09:21:25  <TWerkhoven> hq is just a single building anyway
09:25:24  <GriffinOneTwo> is there a way to watch where a company player is currently working?
09:25:38  <TWerkhoven> not really
09:25:59  <TWerkhoven> you'd have to ask someone where he/she's working, and they can put a sign up
09:26:12  <TWerkhoven> you'd then be able to go there via the sign list (same menu as mini-map)
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14:08:11  <Stablean> <KTG> this general timeout... he's pretty mighty as it seems
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14:51:18  <Stablean> <cronux> hey vinnie
14:51:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
14:52:34  <Stablean> <Vinnie> cronux: Sunworth Valley
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16:27:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes ideally people stick to their own areas and not build in random places all over the map
16:28:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> or at least leave space when crossing others tracks
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16:28:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> this isn't a competition server
16:28:59  <Stablean> <KTG> hmm?
16:29:37  <Stablean> <KTG> put a sign somewhere if my tracks bother you and I'll deal with it, unless that wasn't directed to me
16:30:20  <Stablean> <KTG> ok, I'll make some room
16:34:58  <Stablean> <thepower12n> dam not enough money for a train;9
16:35:09  <Stablean> <KTG> how much you need?
16:35:23  <Stablean> <thepower12n> about 100k
16:35:55  <Stablean> <KTG> like that?
16:36:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> that's fine ty
16:36:55  <Stablean> <KTG> np, thx for telling, I can be a bit.. spacey ;)
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17:55:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi all
17:55:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
17:56:42  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things jam
17:56:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> fine thanks you?
17:57:11  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
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20:01:07  <Stablean> <KTG> happy I think you forgot some signals
20:01:22  <Stablean> <KTG> ah there :)
20:01:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
20:01:48  <Stablean> <KTG> hmm one more on the left track
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20:26:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok     i have  dun my ml  2  way
20:27:38  <Stablean> <KTG> nice
20:28:38  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> woops
20:28:54  <Stablean> <KTG> ?
20:29:01  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> tran  crash
20:29:03  <Stablean> <KTG> oh
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20:29:29  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> for  got to stop  the tran
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20:35:27  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be back  later  i am going  to  play  a golf  game  on my latop bb have fun
20:35:30  <Stablean> <KTG> cya
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21:19:25  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, happy
21:19:40  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi anson
21:20:44  <Stablean> <Anson> your pax trains don't accelerate too well ...
21:21:02  <Stablean> <Anson> even at the destination station, they don't have max speed yet
21:21:35  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer i did  the  pax  as a back up
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21:24:57  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i think i got  a nufe  trans  at  my    power  station
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21:34:16  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> anson   tran  trak  cost  a bit  hi  so dont  go  far
21:35:02  <Stablean> <KTG> yeah most people bankrupted a company or two first
21:35:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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21:48:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  troy
21:48:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi happy
21:48:56  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
21:48:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> good
21:49:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how are you?
21:49:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
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21:52:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i have  make  my  ml  2way  troy
21:52:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no
21:52:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's still very calm
21:53:21  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar ok
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21:55:24  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> if  ther  eney  thin  needs   redoing  port a sign  and i  will fix it   now  or to  mor
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21:55:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not much really
21:56:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
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22:03:04  <Stablean> <KTG> man.. industries disappear so fast on this map somehow
22:03:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> only dying ones, KTG
22:03:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and industries take a long time to die
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22:04:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you need any particular industry, KTG?
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22:04:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, it's all-in-all quite crowded on Welcome Server
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22:09:53  <Stablean> <KTG> I know, it's just funny that I built to like half a dozen so far on this map
22:10:04  <GriffinOneTwo> How bad is it to start a company to learn the game, and have it end up hosed due to lack of experience; Does that screw other up?  or is it of little sigifigance?  Can hosed Companies be removed / deleted?
22:10:06  <Stablean> <KTG> and each time I'm done building they decide to disappear^^
22:10:29  <Stablean> <KTG> screwed up companies will be deleted/erased completely
22:10:44  <GriffinOneTwo> auto-magicly ?
22:10:50  <Stablean> <KTG> yes, automagically
22:11:00  <Stablean> <KTG> once they are bankrupt basically
22:11:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> shouldn't build near small industries then, or keep the neigbouring stations highly rated
22:11:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you'll get a message saying you're in trouble
22:11:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> happens when you're ending up in red 3 months in a row
22:11:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 6 months after that, you get sold/deleted
22:12:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> others can buy your company/network if they want then
22:12:29  <Stablean> <Anson> was that changed ? it used to be "in debt at two end-of-quarters", afair ?
22:12:39  <Stablean> <KTG> it was changed :/
22:12:53  <Stablean> <KTG> like 1.2.0 or so
22:12:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, what happened? what's the procedure now?
22:12:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, okay
22:13:10  <Stablean> <KTG> it is like you described Troy, Anson didn't know the change
22:13:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
22:13:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> perhaps it could be 6 months in the red, but I think you get your first warning after 3, not sure
22:14:01  <Stablean> <Anson> and is the counter now reset when you get in the plus for any minimum time in between ? or are you still bancrupt when you are in the plus except for 1 or 2 days at the end of the "measuring period" ?
22:14:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> running negative numbers is not the point: having no cash is
22:14:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the latter
22:14:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I'm quite fund of heavy borrowing/heavy paybacking when in the beginning
22:14:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so pay back whenever you can
22:15:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but since trains have running costs, they will often run some red numbers
22:15:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> even though you're making an overall profit
22:15:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but the last days of the month count, afaik
22:15:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the months/quarterly balance that is
22:15:56  <Stablean> <Anson> ah, yes, i remember last game ... i saw someone with a million minus who didn't go bancrupt for years since he had no loan, and together with max loan he would not be in debt ...
22:16:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> jep
22:16:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> however, if you do not have any vehicles, the company automagically disappears moments after you leave it
22:17:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> often it's just somebody posting signs: the entry signs, or 'what's this?' signs
22:18:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you're gonna do something with your company Anson, or what?
22:18:49  <Stablean> <KTG> he already did
22:18:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, released the hounds of freight, I see
22:21:58  <Stablean> <Anson> i think i messed up :-(
22:22:08  <Stablean> <KTG> yes you did
22:22:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what then?
22:22:12  <Stablean> <KTG> buy a ship and go backrupt
22:22:14  <Stablean> <KTG> or.. hm
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22:23:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb all
22:23:12  <Stablean> <KTG> is that gonna do it for you?
22:23:14  <Stablean> <KTG> and cya happy
22:23:16  <Stablean> <Anson> oh, thanks
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22:23:57  <Stablean> <Anson> but the rubber plants that i wanted to connect are gone ...
22:24:13  <Stablean> <Anson> now there are even more rubber plants, but they are more distant ...
22:24:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> start over...
22:24:26  <Stablean> <KTG> yes, constant problem for me too
22:24:36  <Stablean> <KTG> nah I just gave him a million
22:24:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> he can put it back...
22:25:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> fast expansion is quite convenient for a starting company
22:28:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> KTG, why don't you have one single big network?
22:29:24  <Stablean> <KTG> do I have to? :)
22:29:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, just wondering why you don't
22:30:01  <Stablean> <KTG> well basically because I tried to find profitable stuff
22:30:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> often, when these maps are made, the creators idea is that everyone has their own 'island' on which to do things
22:30:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> by no means mandatory though
22:30:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, profit is easily made with these settings
22:30:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you don't get bored by that?
22:31:05  <Stablean> <KTG> well it was already pretty scattered before
22:31:37  <Stablean> <KTG> not really, no
22:32:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, okay
22:32:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ever been on the PS?
22:32:55  <Stablean> <KTG> nope, and this is only second time I go to multiplayer game
22:33:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, noticed you previous game
22:33:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nice server?
22:33:36  <Stablean> <KTG> the previous game I somehow had an easier time doing one network
22:33:50  <Stablean> <KTG> as said I don't strive to get to one, but I tend to
22:34:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so you're not familiar with the rest of openttdcoop?
22:34:22  <Stablean> <KTG> oh I am
22:34:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> let alone building style
22:34:35  <Stablean> <KTG> I downloaded a bunch of maps and used some of the tricks
22:35:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> online, multiplayer is the way to go, though
22:35:16  <Stablean> <KTG> I prefer singleplayer honestly
22:35:26  <Stablean> <KTG> mostly because I'm reckless when terraforming
22:35:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, but for learning with the building style, MP is better
22:35:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and for terraforming SP is indeed better :P
22:36:05  <Stablean> <KTG> and I use the terror of ottcoop :P
22:36:11  <Stablean> <KTG> planes that is
22:36:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the true terror are ships though
22:36:40  <Stablean> <KTG> eh I don't use those
22:36:45  <Stablean> <KTG> those slowpokes of hell
22:36:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if you get to run one without going bankrupt, you have my respect
22:37:05  <Stablean> <KTG> only for oil
22:37:08  <Stablean> <KTG> oh I mean on SP
22:37:18  <Stablean> <KTG> not on this map
22:37:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :)
22:37:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, I figured
22:37:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no passengers to and fro oil rigs?
22:37:49  <Stablean> <KTG> no
22:38:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> anyways, if you want to do some openttdcoop style building, you can ask me for some advice
22:38:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but for now, I'm going to leave
22:38:44  <Stablean> <KTG> hehe I always ask questions when needed^^
22:38:59  <Stablean> <KTG> as for what I personally need to improve... prios, already getting better with it^^
22:39:01  <Stablean> <KTG> ok cyas
22:39:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> practice....
22:39:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
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