Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 2nd July 2013:
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08:59:51  <Stablean> <cronux> Hello!
09:00:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
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11:35:13  <Stablean> <Skom> fuuck why i cant rebuild the industry??
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12:20:53  <Stablean> <cronux> Hey Anson
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12:32:12  <Stablean> <Dom> yo
12:32:50  <Stablean> <Dom> cronux!
12:33:01  <Stablean> <Dom> leave some space when building over somebodys elses tracks
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12:34:13  <Stablean> <cronux> hey
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12:34:21  <Stablean> <Dom> yo
12:34:39  <Stablean> <cronux> Where are you talking about? Will see if I can fix it
12:35:22  <Stablean> <Dom> oh its not you its Nikit0dZZZa
12:35:28  <Stablean> <Dom> sry :)
12:35:30  <Stablean> <cronux> :-)
12:36:04  <Stablean> <Dom> cronux: you could use some better balancing at wht-lst drop
12:36:14  <Stablean> <Dom> if you need any help just tell :)
12:36:20  <Stablean> <Dom> *ask
12:36:22  <Stablean> <Dom> xD
12:36:25  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
12:36:27  <Stablean> <cronux> balancing is my week spot
12:36:30  <Stablean> <Dom> grüß dich :)
12:36:36  <Stablean> <Dom> i see :)
12:36:42  <Stablean> <Anson> i am just looking around ... at wht-lst drop :-)
12:37:17  <Stablean> <Anson> there are two problems : at the entry, two lines split into the platforms, one busy and one empty
12:37:43  <Stablean> <Anson> the other problem is a really bad exit ... i had the same problem in the last game
12:37:43  <Stablean> <Dom> the balancing for this aint that hard to build
12:37:49  <Stablean> <Dom> yep
12:38:08  <Stablean> <Dom> cronux if you let me in your comp i can help :)
12:38:10  <Stablean> <cronux> working on the exit at some stage, it is not staying like that :-)
12:38:12  <Stablean> <Anson> at the exit, the trains from the left platforms have a really huge signal gap
12:38:39  <Stablean> <Anson> the exit is also a probably cause for the entry with queues
12:39:34  <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#8)
12:39:36  <Stablean> <cronux> I plan on a 4 -> 2 exit
12:40:46  <Stablean> <Dom> this is a good 3->2 balancer
12:40:48  <Stablean> <Anson> as a first improvement, just ignore the CL at the exit and group the platforms, so that they can leave faster without the big signal gap
12:40:50  <Stablean> <Dom> or a simple :)
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12:45:12  <Stablean> <Anson> for refitting trains, there is also a much more coplicated order list which reduces the number of trains going to the next drop, and allows some trains to leave empty and return immediately to the pickup stations
12:47:15  <Stablean> <cronux> yeh, I did think about that, but was forcing myself to create a loop network
12:51:50  <Stablean> <Anson> general hint for refitting trains : start the orders with a refit order ... else you may get problems when copying/clon ing trains later, which happen to be transporting the other type of cargo at the time
12:56:16  <Stablean> <Dom> hm i could have been done better
12:56:23  <Stablean> <Dom> but i havewnt played for at least a month xD
12:56:37  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
12:57:15  <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... the exit has still quite some wait times ... but it still is much faster than before
12:58:39  <Stablean> <Anson> watch out when terraforming !!!!
12:58:45  <Stablean> <Dom> why?
12:58:48  <Stablean> <Anson> even more when terraforming water !!!!
12:58:54  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
12:59:00  <Stablean> <Dom> i know its not cheap
12:59:02  <Stablean> <Anson> onb this server, costs for TF are very high
12:59:12  <Stablean> <Dom> i've been playin ottdcoop servers for a year :)
13:00:02  <Stablean> <cronux> As aposed to playing Transport Tycoon for 15 years for myself
13:00:04  <Stablean> <Anson> when someone has les than 100 million cash, i get a strange feeling in my stomach when i see water terrfaorming :-)
13:00:15  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
13:00:33  <Stablean> <Anson> when did you start playing TT ?
13:00:51  <Stablean> <Anson> i started playing TT with the original TT version :-)
13:00:57  <Stablean> <cronux> same as myself
13:01:11  <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #4
13:01:15  <Stablean> <cronux> My mother came home from a yard sale and said would  you like this?
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13:01:34  <Stablean> <Anson> even sent a mail with a bug report to chris, and got an update back on a floppy, which exclusively had an editor :-) LOL
13:01:52  <Stablean> <cronux> oh nice!
13:02:07  <Stablean> <cronux> Back in those days I only had dialup connection
13:02:21  <Stablean> <cronux> Was not worth my time to do anything on the internet
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13:02:35  <Stablean> <Anson> back in those days, i used an acoustic coupler with 300 bd
13:02:54  <Stablean> <Anson> there was no internet yet
13:03:05  <Stablean> <Anson> only usenet and mailbox systems
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13:03:24  <Stablean> <Dom> now you shouldnt have any problems with cash cronux
13:03:39  <Stablean> <Dom> but you will need a second line at !here
13:03:57  <Stablean> <cronux> was my intention eventually
13:04:37  <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#8)
13:05:21  <Stablean> <Dom> and double engine would also be good
13:05:39  <Stablean> <Dom> for better accel
13:05:42  <Stablean> <Anson> the double line only starts at !double ... thus a single line might be good enough behind the station too
13:06:12  <Stablean> <Dom> the bridges are to long
13:06:20  <Stablean> <Dom> the tunnels aswell
13:06:26  <Stablean> <Anson> what about animal trains ? they have good acceleration, good power, medium speed, and even don't need a CL
13:06:29  <Stablean> <Dom> as there are no presignals ore anything
13:07:41  <Stablean> <Anson> there are even 4 .... but not well balanced
13:07:55  <Stablean> <Dom> not balanced at all
13:08:17  <Stablean> <Dom> ill see what i cand do
13:11:07  <Stablean> <Dom> damn
13:11:09  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: do you like the signals ? ... IMHO, they look nice for WET rails, but are difficult to recognize
13:11:11  <Stablean> <Dom> fuck
13:11:11  <Stablean> <cronux> fail :-)
13:11:45  <Stablean> <Anson> you can change the whole network to universal rails ... and then the signals are much easier to recognize
13:11:45  <Stablean> <cronux> Anson - I do like the signals, but took me a little bit to remember each of them
13:12:35  <Stablean> <Dom> may i include some simple logic?
13:12:49  <Stablean> <cronux> aka?
13:12:55  <Stablean> <Dom> flip-flop
13:12:58  <Stablean> <Dom> at !double
13:13:28  <Stablean> <cronux> i am not up to scratch with all terminology - please explain
13:13:35  <Stablean> <Dom> i'll show you :)
13:13:55  <Sylf> show off :)
13:13:59  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
13:14:02  <Stablean> <Dom> i will :D
13:19:57  <Stablean> <Anson> synced bridges tunnels enter on one side and leave shifted on the other side, so that both tracks have the same length#
13:21:03  <Stablean> <Anson> better to move the rail at the entry to the double bridge left and then have better CL at the exit
13:25:37  <Stablean> <Dom> ill finish later
13:25:39  <Stablean> <Dom> gtgo
13:25:39  <Stablean> <Dom> bb
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13:26:21  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, may i fix !signals ?
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13:34:10  <Stablean> <cronux> afk for a while...
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16:19:30  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, happy
16:19:37  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi all
16:20:03  <Stablean> <Anson> can we clean up that mess with tunnels, bridges etc ?
16:20:45  <Stablean> <Anson> the niki line on top of the mountain blocks quite a few attempts at terrafoprming nicely
16:21:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> doo a sign  anson
16:22:27  <Stablean> <Anson> "mess"
16:22:49  <Stablean> <Anson> two locations
16:23:23  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  i see   your  sign
16:24:33  <Stablean> <Anson> problem is the one line on top of the mountain, and the farm at the bottom
16:25:03  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
16:25:41  <Stablean> <Anson> the tunnels at mess1 were too long (only single tunnels for both lanes)
16:26:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi happy
16:26:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> I see a way
16:26:06  <Stablean> <Anson> thus i just started an attempt at moving one lane to mess2 and doing double tunnels for both
16:26:09  <Sylf_> I provide a nice big map, and we still can't build away from each other?
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16:37:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem mite  have  to   redo  the ml  at  the   drop of
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16:46:55  <Stablean> <Anson> the new tunnels look very good to me, at least with the current traffic
16:47:09  <Stablean> <Anson> even the jam is resilving itself slowly
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16:54:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks  jam  for your  help
16:54:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> np
16:55:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> now you can make proper choice at X :)
16:55:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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17:08:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  lest  try  that
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17:37:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be back  later
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18:00:23  <Mazur> !rcon move 117 255
18:00:23  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
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18:01:17  <Mazur> !rcon move 117 255
18:01:17  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
18:01:21  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
18:02:27  <Stablean> <Anson> Player, you can also set a default username in the multiplayer screen, before you join a game
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18:03:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> fair enuf :)
18:03:19  <Stablean> *** J. C. Money has started a new company (#6)
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18:03:45  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, JC, are you the player that just had a short look ?
18:04:03  <Stablean> <J. C. Money> I just wanna se how this game works MP
18:04:57  <Stablean> <Anson> if you want to really play here, a look at the rules would be good ...
18:05:09  <Stablean> <J. C. Money> ok
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18:05:25  <Stablean> <Anson> thise server is mostly about big train networks, thus prices for other transports are a bit "adjusted"
18:05:51  <Stablean> <J. C. Money> I see
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18:43:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi Chris Booth
18:43:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Jam35
18:43:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> care to join Chris Booth?
18:43:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> oh ok :)
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18:45:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Jam35: I am just looking may join later
18:45:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> oki
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19:00:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  all
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19:37:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi sam    your  tran  cargo   is  not rite
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19:46:35  <Stablean> <Skom> my company disapeared!!
19:46:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
19:47:00  <Stablean> <Skom> why?
19:47:34  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be  cours  u wher  not  making  eney muney
19:47:36  <Stablean> <Skom> well, i know, i didnt finish putting the trains this morning so probably it ran out of money
19:47:47  <Stablean> <Skom> u.u'
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19:54:02  <Stablean> <Anson> on this server, empty companies without vehicles are deleted automatically
19:54:40  <Stablean> <Anson> and you can go bancrupt, but only when your cash and a possible loan togethjer would exhaust the credit limit
19:55:42  <Stablean> <Anson> always remember that in multiplayer, the game can be paused all the time until you return, or it can also run all the time ... you never know in advance
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