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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 19th July 2013:
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01:24:20  <Sylf> <Cameron> how haven't I desynced yet  <<<<  desync does not meat client too slow or network too slow
01:24:24  <Sylf> mean*
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01:41:00  <Stablean> <Diablo> cameron, it it alright if i supply goods to 1 of ur towns? with conditions
01:41:46  <Stablean> <Diablo> *is it
01:59:10  <Cameron> yes, go ahead :)
01:59:37  <Stablean> <Diablo> thx man :)
02:00:58  <Cameron> don't spend 6 trillions dollars tho :P
02:02:02  <Stablean> <Diablo> ill try lol
02:03:41  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (downloading map took too long)
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02:04:29  <Stablean> <Diablo> hey sylf
02:04:45  <Stablean> <Sylf> allo
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02:05:05  <Sylf> hm.  wtf.
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02:05:34  <Stablean> <Diablo> that was wierd
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02:05:59  <Sylf> ugh.  again.
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02:14:15  <Cameron> :D need a new map so much.
02:14:32  <Stablean> <Diablo> agreed
02:32:12  <Sylf> ok, gimme a new map.
02:32:15  <Sylf> I'll load it.
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03:06:48  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
03:06:48  <Stablean> Sylf: 2: Not a savegame.
03:06:51  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
03:06:51  <Stablean> Sylf: 2: Not a savegame.
03:06:55  <Sylf> BLAH
03:06:56  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
03:06:56  <Stablean> Sylf: 2: Not a savegame.
03:07:00  <Sylf> !rcon ls
03:07:00  <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory)
03:07:00  <Stablean> Sylf: 1) archive/ (Directory)
03:07:00  <Stablean> Sylf: 2) autosave/ (Directory)
03:07:00  <Stablean> Sylf: 3) uploads/ (Directory)
03:07:00  <Stablean> Sylf: 4) restart.sav
03:07:00  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 34 more messages
03:07:07  <Sylf> !rcon cd 3
03:07:09  <Sylf> !rcon load 3
03:07:11  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
03:07:21  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
03:07:21  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
03:07:30  <Sylf> !setdef
03:07:30  <Stablean> *** Sylf has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
03:07:36  <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1
03:07:36  <Stablean> Sylf: Company deleted.
03:08:02  <Sylf> !rcon set pause_on_join
03:08:02  <Stablean> Sylf: Current value for 'pause_on_join' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1)
03:08:06  <Sylf> !rcon set pause_on_join 0
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03:08:55  <Stablean> <Sylf> awright, boys.  Let's go generic.
03:09:54  <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#1)
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03:22:43  <Sylf> uh, wtf?
03:23:01  <Stablean> <Diablo> ??
03:23:20  <Sylf> some player can't even connect to this empty map
03:23:51  <Stablean> <Diablo> odd
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03:47:19  <Stablean> <Cameron> yay
03:48:25  <Stablean> *** Cameron has started a new company (#3)
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03:50:23  <Stablean> <Diablo> this is wierd...im the only one with a stable conneection
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04:06:30  <Stablean> <Cameron> town growing  fixed?
04:06:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> no script loaded
04:06:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> it wasn't all that broken anyway.
04:07:09  <Stablean> <Diablo> town growth is on slow
04:07:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> it always is
04:07:38  <Stablean> <Cameron> better than 23212 days :)
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04:33:19  <Stablean> <Cameron> great, walk into a hospital with a ton of cops inside, shoot one guy, walk out with 3 stars ...fml
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04:38:01  <Stablean> <Cameron> WB
04:38:15  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
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16:30:53  <Stablean> <Mark Boris> hi
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16:32:21  <Stablean> <Mark Boris> hi zs
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16:45:09  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, ZS, why doesn't Nafingburg Springs Woods accept wood ?
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16:48:48  <Stablean> <Anson> ah, the sawmill at Nafingburg Springs is no longer used, but the station is a transfer station now !?
16:49:23  <Stablean> <Player> hoe moet je bouwen
16:49:39  <Stablean> <ZS> yes, transfer station.
16:49:45  <Stablean> <Anson> Player, please select a username
16:49:53  <Stablean> <Player> okee
16:49:59  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving)
16:50:03  <Stablean> <Anson> ans please talk in english, so that everybody can understand
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16:51:11  <Stablean> <Anson> and, Niek, please talk in english so that everybody can understand ... else we have to guess what you want to ask
16:51:26  <Stablean> <Niek> alright is good!
16:51:40  <Stablean> <Niek> yes it works
16:51:55  <Stablean> <Niek> i downloaded this game today and its awsome
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16:52:42  <Stablean> <Anson> bouwen = german bauen = english build ... but what does hoe moet je mean ?
16:53:20  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, a really great game, and even more so when you look at how old the first original version is :-)
16:54:22  <Stablean> <Anson> I started playing the original commercial game TT, and that was sold on a single 3.5" floppy disk .-)
16:55:08  <Stablean> <Anson> a DOS game, similar time that sim city was invented
16:56:16  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: this server prefers train networks ... ships and airplanes are made "a bit" costly here .-)
16:57:43  <planetmaker> tehehe, that's well put, Anson :-)
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16:58:48  <Stablean> <Anson> another game wizh inflation ? :-(
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17:06:13  <Stablean> <Jam35> hmmmm
17:06:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> nice boats :D
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17:06:41  <Stablean> <Niek> haha
17:06:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> bb company ;)
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17:16:54  <Stablean> <Niek> lol there are to many verhicles in the game
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17:26:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> ha nice boat :P
17:27:02  <Stablean> <Niek> oh shit im im now staying in the read
17:27:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> not again Niek :(
17:27:37  <Stablean> <Niek> ive got a lot to learn hmmm
17:28:03  <Stablean> <Niek> a short question how do you get oil from a pump or whatever
17:28:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> put a station by it
17:28:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> with correct wagons/trucks stopping there
17:28:51  <Stablean> <Niek> a truck loading point?
17:29:13  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes the orangey coloured one
17:29:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> right click on it if you're not sure what a button does
17:30:20  <Stablean> *** Niek has left the game (leaving)
17:30:37  <Stablean> *** Niek has started a new company (#11)
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17:30:56  <Stablean> <Niek> now im going to make money
17:34:23  <Stablean> <Anson> it is the same for everything, no matter whether oil, wood, etc ... put a station next to a resource, load, go to another station next to an industry that needs that resource, and unload
17:34:50  <Stablean> <Niek> okay thanks
17:35:38  <Stablean> <Anson> also look around what other people do ... some are building good networks, some are building worse than an AI .-)
17:36:09  <Stablean> <Anson> and you also can read a lot on the wikis for openttd and openttdcoop
17:36:15  <Jam35> http://wiki.openttd.org/Tutorial
17:36:29  <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators
17:36:49  <Stablean> <Player> im new can any one help me
17:36:59  <Stablean> <Niek> don't take over Niek compane
17:37:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
17:37:16  <Stablean> <Player> ok
17:37:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> happy :))))))
17:37:21  <Stablean> <Player> hi
17:37:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
17:37:29  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
17:37:44  <Stablean> <Player> brb
17:37:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> nice surprise you are here
17:37:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
17:38:05  <Stablean> <Player> `
17:38:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> first help for player: type !name <myname> in the chat
17:38:55  <Stablean> <Player> how do i leave my company
17:39:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> join spectators
17:39:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> start new company
17:39:18  <Stablean> <Player> name
17:39:40  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has changed his/her name to me
17:39:46  <Stablean> *** me has changed his/her name to Jam35
17:39:48  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to jacob
17:39:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> cool
17:39:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
17:39:55  <Stablean> <jacob> hey
17:40:05  <Stablean> <Anson> you can change your name here in chat ... or you can set a default username on the multiplayer screen from the main menu (in the top right corner)
17:40:23  <Stablean> <jacob> cool
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17:41:13  <Stablean> <jacob> how do i leave my company
17:41:20  <Stablean> <jacob> im with nock
17:41:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> how do you mean leave?
17:41:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> what is the company name?
17:41:39  <Stablean> <jacob> yea im with nick
17:42:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> if you want start a new company
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17:42:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> if you want to delete your old company
17:42:43  <Stablean> <Niek> how to buy a aircraft?
17:42:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> dont
17:43:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> remember your failure with the boats
17:43:16  <Stablean> <Niek> yes
17:43:26  <Stablean> <Niek> whaa i start with busses
17:43:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok look at the running costs
17:43:42  <Stablean> <Niek> i have 240k
17:43:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> train or bus is good
17:44:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> running costs: x millions per year
17:44:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> you can't afford it
17:44:40  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#8)
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17:45:03  <Stablean> <jacob> i have a new company ya
17:45:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> you are a spectator
17:45:25  <Stablean> <Anson> on this server, ships are to bamcrupt/delete a company, and airplanes are a luxury for rich people that want a plane for status reasons and getenough money from their trains :-)
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17:45:33  <Stablean> <jacob> damt
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17:45:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> click the man icon: start new company
17:45:45  <Stablean> <Jam35> god...
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17:46:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> you don't need to leave btw :D
17:46:16  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#12)
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17:46:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> stop leaving you don't need to
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17:47:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be  back  later
17:47:45  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok you're in :)
17:47:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> bb ht
17:48:55  <Stablean> <jacob> so i can biuld my hq any where
17:49:47  <Stablean> <jacob> how do i maake money
17:49:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> well yes but most people would build near their stuff if at all
17:50:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> transport stuff
17:50:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> e.g. build bus stops in a town and take passengers around
17:51:09  <Stablean> <Niek> im making profit
17:51:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> or take coal to a power plant
17:51:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> or wood to a sawmill etc
17:51:25  <Stablean> <Anson> you get money from transporting lots of cargo long distance ... but not too long at first since you have limited money to build tracks and trains
17:53:15  <Stablean> <jacob> soo i just biuld a coal buss and a road to the power plant and i will get money
17:53:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> coal truck but yes
17:54:03  <Stablean> <jacob> dose it mater where the road is around the power plant
17:54:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> the station or truck stop has to have the power plant in the white grid
17:55:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> so 3 or 4 squares away
17:55:22  <Stablean> <jacob> good to know
17:55:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> within 4 squares
17:55:48  <Stablean> <jacob> that has to be very close then
17:56:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> ish
17:57:04  <Stablean> <Anson> when you place a station, there is an option "coverage area on/off" that shows a grid, and the stations has to be partly in that grid. then it also will show which cargo is accepted and supplied there
17:57:32  <Stablean> <Niek> oh okay thanks
17:58:02  <Stablean> <Anson> RV stations have range 3, train stations 4, and airports (haha) have 3 to 8 depending on size
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17:58:32  <Stablean> <jacob> do i build a bus station or truck station
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17:58:48  <Stablean> <Anson> bus for passengers, truck for mail and cargo
17:58:50  <Stablean> <Niek> pff failed again
17:59:12  <Stablean> <Niek> which truck do i need for wood
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18:00:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> click cargo types and choose wood
18:00:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> and it will show you
18:02:00  <Stablean> <Anson> when you filter the trucks/wagons for cargo and buy one, don't forget to check (and refit) ... the filter only shows what cargo they CAN transport, but quite often the default is something different and you have to refit them first
18:02:26  <Stablean> <jacob> whats the coal bus name
18:03:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> press all cargo types and choose coal
18:03:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> there are many
18:03:50  <Stablean> <jacob> after that can i pick anyone
18:04:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> oh and btw you take coal from a coal mine ;)
18:04:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes
18:04:26  <Stablean> <jacob> what about a power plant
18:04:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> from a coal mine to the power plant yes
18:04:58  <Stablean> <jacob> wheres a coal mine
18:05:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> look north from your plant
18:05:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> behind that forest
18:07:22  <Stablean> <jacob> is the coal mine the fence suronding 3 buildings and dirt
18:07:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> with the black pile of stuff next to it
18:07:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> :) yes
18:08:54  <Stablean> <jacob> ya so all i have to do is build a road to it then biuld my bus
18:09:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> correctamundo
18:09:14  <Stablean> <jacob> yaaaa
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18:12:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> probably best to go round that water
18:19:31  <Stablean> <Anson> and again ... one RIP :-(
18:22:26  <Stablean> <jacob> what if i wanted to transport passengers would i need a buss tation near the towns and a buss
18:22:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> bus stations in towns yes
18:23:30  <Stablean> <jacob> some say i dont have athority to build the bus stations there
18:23:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> then you can't build there til they like you
18:25:03  <Stablean> <jacob> no one likes me
18:25:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> blowing stuff up annoys them
18:25:49  <Stablean> <jacob> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i built one
18:26:07  <Stablean> <jacob> pink is killen me with that train of his
18:30:01  <Stablean> <Anson> you can check tiles with the blue "?" icon ... in towns it shows you what they produce, eg 3/8 passengers in a big house ... and you need to build a bus station so that the coverage area includes at least 8/8 total :-)
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18:33:37  <Stablean> <jacob> im constantly losing money
18:33:51  <Stablean> <Anson> jacob: on this server, vehicles will never have breakdowns, and thus you don't need to do meintenance
18:34:05  <Stablean> <jacob> ok so
18:34:32  <Stablean> <Anson> after you have built two stations and a connection between them, you need to give orders to the vehicles to go to those stations and load and unload
18:35:19  <Stablean> <Anson> your bus #1 has many orders to go to Cufingley Bank station, but no second station
18:36:01  <Stablean> <Anson> delete all but one of those orders, and add as second order another station
18:37:48  <Stablean> <Anson> just as an example, look at the buis that i just built
18:37:55  <Stablean> <Anson> and at the orders it has
18:38:05  <Stablean> <Anson> in Cufingley
18:38:27  <Stablean> <jacob> i need two
18:39:07  <Stablean> <Anson> you only get money when you transport something from one place to another
18:39:49  <Stablean> <jacob> cufingley authority wont allow me to build here
18:40:11  <Stablean> <Anson> then forget that town and use another
18:40:45  <Stablean> <Anson> for every station, you will get some points (internally) when you service it, and you will lose points when the station is not used
18:41:39  <Stablean> <Anson> that is the rating of the authorities, and when you destroyed too much or have an unused station for a long time, they will be annoyed by you
18:42:43  <Stablean> <Anson> just build one station in Bondingville and send the bus between the existing station and that new station
18:42:57  <Stablean> <jacob> ok
18:43:03  <Stablean> <jacob> thanks
18:43:43  <Stablean> <Anson> did you see the grid for the coverage area ?
18:44:02  <Stablean> <Anson> place your stations at some location where many houses are in that coverage area
18:44:20  <Stablean> <Anson> the more houses in the area, the more passengers are generated for transport
18:44:58  <Stablean> <Anson> select to build a station and look at the coverage area when you move the mouse over my two stations
18:45:37  <Stablean> <Anson> you will see that i built them exactly so that the areas don't overlap and cover the entire city, one for one half, and the other for the other half
18:45:59  <Stablean> <Anson> thus they are less distant than yours, but have a lot more passengers to transport
18:49:01  <Stablean> <Anson> don't build stations too near to each other ... remeber the coverage area !!!
18:49:35  <Stablean> <Anson> when two stations are near each other, they will "steal" passengers from each other, or share the same coverage area and its passengers
18:50:01  <Stablean> <Anson> best to put the stations eactly so that they don't overlap, but also don't leave houses uncovered
18:50:40  <Stablean> <Anson> look at my stations ... cuf central has 250 passengers waiting :-)
18:51:02  <Stablean> <Anson> I'll remove my stations now ... and you can have the whole town for yourself again
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18:52:37  <Stablean> <Anson> count the houses near Cufingley West : only 4 houses, and if you look at the details, they have 14/8 passengers only ... not much
18:54:13  <Stablean> <Anson> place a station more in the center, and another station in the next town ... that will take a longer time to travel, but give more time for passengers to appear and wait, and more profit for long distance transport
18:55:02  <Stablean> <Anson> but most of all, change the orders of your bus ... it still goes from one station to itself only, thus making no profit at all
18:55:28  <Stablean> <jacob> why
18:56:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> how many people would pay for a bus that only lets you off where you got on?
18:56:08  <Stablean> <Anson> would you pay money when you take a bus and it takes you once around the block and tries to drop you to the station where you entered it ?
18:56:10  <Stablean> <jacob> grrr im still losing money
18:56:38  <Stablean> <Anson> i already told you a while ago that you need to set up orders for your bus
18:56:48  <Stablean> <jacob> how
18:57:02  <Stablean> <Anson> delete all but the first order, and add another station to the orders
18:57:26  <Stablean> <Anson> on the window of your bus, click the yellow arrow ... that is the list of orders
18:57:44  <Stablean> <Anson> then delete all but one of those orders
18:58:55  <Stablean> <jacob> i might try again later this game is way way to complex for me i dont no how my son dose it
18:59:10  <Stablean> <jacob> bye
18:59:16  <Stablean> <Jam35> bb
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19:00:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> son? how did he manage that? :D
19:00:57  <Sylf> start simple.
19:00:57  <Sylf> don't feel obligated to make it complex like other players on your first day
19:01:14  <Stablean> <Anson> he already left the game
19:01:41  * Sylf has a daughter
19:02:16  <Stablean> <Anson> i think, already the basics were too much fgor him, eg to give orders to a bus, to go back and forth between two stations ...
19:02:58  <Stablean> <Anson> @sylf: how old ? .-)
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19:19:27  <Stablean> <V453000> mu
19:19:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> ye
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19:33:20  <Stablean> <Anson> who caused the accident ? happy or matusbb ?
19:33:38  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> not  me
19:33:45  <Stablean> <Anson> try to never build crossings between rails and roads ...
19:34:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i did  not doo  that road
19:36:06  <Stablean> <Anson> found the guilty player(s) ... Niek and matusbb built the crossing, and happy's RVs use it as shortcut
19:39:24  <Stablean> <Anson> just build a bridge at sign "bridge" ...
19:40:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  i have  fixs  it now
19:41:49  <Stablean> <Anson> matusbb, can you remove and rebuild the tiles with the crossings ?
19:42:08  <Stablean> <Anson> at sign "crossings"
19:43:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i can not  doo  that  that road  is not my  road
19:44:47  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: your train crash was caused by the signals which easily allow something like that to happen ... why do you use twoway pbs everywhere ???
19:47:29  <Stablean> <Anson> there are a few limited uses for the twoway pbs, like at my station Pladingham Woods ... but otherwise they are almost a guarantee for crashes
19:48:31  <scshunt> wait, how do they cause crashes? Jams and stuff I'll believe, but shouldn't the trains never cross paths?
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19:55:46  <Stablean> <Anson> it is very easy to change some signal a long distance away, and because of the twoway PBS, trains reserved paths ... that doesn't happen when everything is properly set up, but easily happens when there are too many twoway pbs
19:56:40  <Stablean> <Anson> there are also a few problems/bugs which cause crashes in connection with the twoway pbs and block signals
19:57:55  <Stablean> <Anson> build a station with a twoway pbs on one side and a twoway block signal on the other ... sooner or later some trains will crash in the station
19:57:59  <Sylf> are you doing back-seat playing for other players, Anson?
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19:59:14  <Stablean> <Anson> when i see something strange, i say so ... either the other didn't know something, or i don't know something ... an opportunity to learn either way
19:59:49  <Stablean> <Anson> and when i am sitting and waitinmg for my money maker to start generating money, i have enough time to look around at other people's networks
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20:01:41  <Sylf> Please don't do that with me then.  I will ask when I want third  part opinions
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20:04:41  <Stablean> <Anson> Sylf, when i would ask you about some constructio, it would probably be soething that i don't know yet :-)
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20:22:25  <Stablean> <RTM> hi
20:22:35  <Stablean> <RTM> hi Jsm35
20:22:45  <Stablean> <RTM> hi Anson
20:23:00  <Stablean> <RTM> hi Cameron
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