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00:17:07 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Anson: are u there? 00:22:19 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 00:27:03 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop.stable 00:37:48 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 00:37:48 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 00:47:42 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 00:47:42 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 00:48:06 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 00:48:38 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (processing map took too long) 00:48:38 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 01:22:15 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 01:31:00 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 01:33:52 <Stablean> <Sylf> r1kkie: here? 01:37:09 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 01:40:45 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #1 01:47:47 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined spectators 02:02:20 <Stablean> *** Pim has left the game (general timeout) 02:02:20 <Stablean> *** Pim has left the game (connection lost) 02:23:35 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #1 02:26:51 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 02:30:49 <Sylf> !rcon ls 02:30:49 <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory) 02:30:49 <Stablean> Sylf: 1) archive/ (Directory) 02:30:49 <Stablean> Sylf: 2) StableTempS51.sav 02:30:49 <Stablean> Sylf: 3) StableNUTS76.sav 02:30:49 <Stablean> Sylf: 4) StableTropS18.sav 02:30:50 <Stablean> Sylf: you have 185 more messages 02:30:57 <Sylf> !rcon load 2 02:31:05 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 02:31:12 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 02:31:13 <Sylf> !setdef 02:31:13 <Stablean> *** Sylf has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 02:31:15 <Sylf> !auto 02:31:15 <Stablean> *** Sylf has enabled autopause mode. 02:31:16 *** Cameron has joined #openttdcoop.stable 02:31:17 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 02:31:49 <Cameron> guess that means grounds for a new map... 02:31:59 <Sylf> !rcon set min_active_clients 02:32:00 <Stablean> Sylf: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '255' (min: 0, max: 255) 02:32:05 <Sylf> !rcon set min_active_clients 1 02:32:19 <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1 02:32:19 <Stablean> Sylf: Company deleted. 02:40:40 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#1) 02:40:42 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 02:40:56 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to :P 02:42:16 <Stablean> <:P> hello anyone? 02:45:35 *** Cameron has quit IRC 02:49:21 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 02:53:00 <Stablean> *** Cameron has started a new company (#2) 03:25:25 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 03:25:33 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :P 03:25:39 <Stablean> <:P> :P 03:25:41 <Stablean> <Big Meech> whoa, im green 03:25:56 <Stablean> <Big Meech> this isn the wrong map ? 03:30:32 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 03:31:54 <Stablean> *** Diablo has started a new company (#3) 03:32:15 <Stablean> <Big Meech> seriously, is this the wrong map ? 03:32:21 <Stablean> <Big Meech> if not ill build 03:32:24 <Stablean> <:P> idk 03:32:38 <Stablean> <Big Meech> not asking you :P D: xD 03:32:42 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 03:32:56 <Stablean> <:P> haha 03:33:00 <Stablean> <Big Meech> is that you slicey? 03:33:06 <Stablean> <:P> maybe ..... 03:33:12 <Stablean> <Big Meech> maybe 03:33:14 <Stablean> <Big Meech> .... 03:33:14 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 03:33:20 <Stablean> <:P> yes it is :P 03:33:22 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 03:33:32 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has started a new company (#4) 03:33:40 <Stablean> <:P> i already have a better net work! 03:33:47 <Stablean> <Big Meech> awesome! 03:34:14 <Stablean> *** Pim has started a new company (#5) 03:34:17 <Stablean> *** Pim joined the game 03:36:52 <Stablean> <:P> what am i doing need to pay off loan -.- 03:42:08 <Stablean> <:P> hey meech 03:42:14 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo 03:42:28 <Stablean> <:P> see the line near your coal mine? 03:42:34 <Stablean> <:P> is it to close 03:42:53 <Stablean> <Big Meech> what line? 03:43:23 <Stablean> <:P> near omaezaki 03:43:30 <Stablean> <Diablo> thats mine 03:43:36 <Stablean> <:P> no the other 1 03:43:42 <Stablean> <:P> i built 03:43:52 <Stablean> <:P> where the sign is 03:44:06 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I dont see a sign near my stuff Slicey 03:44:21 <Stablean> <:P> what ever it should be fiine 03:51:12 <Stablean> <:P> do u know when the next nuts train comes out? 03:51:22 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I think its every 5 years 03:51:44 <Stablean> <:P> alright not bad i need it 03:52:59 <Stablean> <Big Meech> somtimes you have to double engines, Slicey 03:53:21 <Stablean> <:P> i do on my long trains 03:54:27 <Stablean> <:P> wish coal was able to make something not just for powerstations 04:01:05 <V453000> please use a proper nickname, rules explicitly ask you that ;) thanks 04:01:21 <Stablean> *** :P has changed his/her name to slicey 04:01:21 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :P is coorect! 04:01:29 <Stablean> <slicey> there? 04:01:31 <Stablean> <Big Meech> woo! 04:05:57 <Stablean> <slicey> everyone is making money from coal 04:06:27 <Stablean> <Big Meech> money maker! :D 04:08:22 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 04:08:22 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 04:10:05 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 04:10:09 <Stablean> <slicey> ur back :D 04:10:19 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #4 04:10:28 <Stablean> <Big Meech> maybe :P 04:13:46 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 04:14:18 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 04:14:53 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 04:14:56 <Stablean> <V453000> m00 04:15:10 <Stablean> <V453000> oh god why the colour bullshit again 04:15:21 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 04:15:31 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I thought this was the wrong map 04:16:01 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 04:16:08 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 04:16:13 <Stablean> <Big Meech> this map is kinda meh anyhow 04:16:16 <Stablean> <V453000> uhmmmmfff do those racks even work with bridges 04:16:22 <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#6) 04:16:30 <Stablean> <V453000> ofc they dont :) 04:16:34 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 04:16:38 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 04:16:40 <Stablean> <Big Meech> new map ? :D 04:17:02 <Stablean> <V453000> I think I can override it just by adding a few newGRFs 04:17:20 <Stablean> *** V453000 has paused the server. 04:17:20 <Stablean> <V453000> 1 min 04:17:22 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 04:17:27 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 04:17:31 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 04:18:14 <Stablean> <slicey> what grf is he adding 04:18:45 <Stablean> <Big Meech> he knows what he;'s doing. He's a bastard, but he's good. 04:19:24 <Stablean> <slicey> lol should i make a food route? we should all try to grown a town 04:19:32 <Stablean> <slicey> like a huge town :P 04:19:36 <V453000> actually, I totally mixed it up, it was a method to make swedish rails work, cant make cs rails work though 04:19:39 <V453000> I will just remove the bridge set 04:21:02 <V453000> !getsave https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/StableSS77.sav 04:21:06 <Stablean> V453000: OK :-) 04:21:10 <V453000> !rcon pwd 04:21:10 <Stablean> V453000: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/uploads/ 04:21:12 <V453000> !rcon load 2 04:21:14 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 04:21:21 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 04:21:32 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 04:21:40 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #4 04:21:44 <Stablean> *** Pim joined the game 04:21:48 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 04:21:48 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 04:21:54 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 04:21:56 <Stablean> <Big Meech> unpause now boss? 04:21:56 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 04:22:04 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined company #3 04:22:12 <V453000> !auto 04:22:12 <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 04:22:12 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 04:22:13 <V453000> no 04:22:16 <Stablean> <Big Meech> YES 04:22:26 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #1 04:22:30 <V453000> !rcon set min_active_clients 04:22:30 <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '255' (min: 0, max: 255) 04:22:32 <V453000> !rcon set min_active_clients 1 04:22:34 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 04:22:38 <Stablean> <V453000> I obey 04:22:43 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to slicey 04:22:51 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #6 04:22:53 <Stablean> <Big Meech> slicey, you can name yourself in the dialog box for joining game at the top right 04:23:27 <Stablean> <V453000> I will assume Sylf just wanted to give them purr tracks those tunnels 04:23:37 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 04:23:45 <Stablean> <slicey> damn i liked the bridge i had 04:25:27 <Stablean> <V453000> please dont get too attached to bridges :P 04:25:41 <Stablean> <slicey> im not .... 04:25:41 <Stablean> <V453000> although rules do not mention that 04:25:51 <Stablean> <V453000> sexual intercourse with bridges is not recommended 04:25:53 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Ah, V453000... the bridges here in game are like a bridge to your soul <3 04:25:59 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 04:26:09 <Stablean> <Big Meech> dang </3 04:26:24 <Stablean> <V453000> btw slicey try to have one network, not many separate :P 04:26:43 <Stablean> <slicey> i have 1 big 1 and a seprate which will combine? 04:26:59 <Stablean> <slicey> but kk 04:27:05 <Stablean> <V453000> well why not get there from the fist one 04:27:41 <Stablean> <slicey> well.. lets see my main network is across map if i try to ship a train for now it will take forever 04:27:59 <Stablean> <V453000> well then why do you build it so long 04:28:21 <Stablean> <slicey> ur not understanding what im saying 04:28:35 <Stablean> <V453000> I think I am 04:28:50 <Stablean> <slicey> my other coal line is to far and the time to ship is lost revenue 04:28:52 <Stablean> <V453000> it wont take forever if your network in general is smaller :P 04:29:04 <Stablean> <V453000> btw coal does not lose revenue like ever 04:29:38 <Stablean> <slicey> well 04:29:48 <Stablean> <V453000> on 256x256 space of map you can have 500 5-tile trains withou any real problems, 3-tile trains quite easily 04:29:48 <Stablean> <slicey> doesnt matter it will combine 04:29:58 <Stablean> *** Pim has left the game (leaving) 04:30:00 <Stablean> <slicey> dont worry :) 04:30:02 <Stablean> <V453000> my point is, if you stay in your corner, it makes a lot less mess on the map 04:30:28 <Stablean> <V453000> so having a "line" over 500x500 is really pointless, it is just a line for profit, otherwise it could have been closer to you 04:30:42 <Stablean> <slicey> hey most of my network is in thatcorner 04:30:50 <Stablean> <slicey> 95% 04:31:12 <Stablean> <V453000> 500x500 shouldnt legitimately be a corner either :P but thats fine 04:31:23 <Stablean> <V453000> most isnt all though) 04:31:33 <Stablean> <Big Meech> He will get the hang of it, he's new :D 04:31:45 <Stablean> <V453000> just keep it in mind that there are going to be others on the map too :P 04:31:47 <Stablean> <slicey> im sry!!!! i dont play small maps 04:32:09 <Stablean> <Big Meech> It's okay 04:32:15 <Stablean> <V453000> iz not :( 04:32:30 <Stablean> <V453000> small maps are best for learning 04:32:33 <Stablean> <Big Meech> don't scare him off V453000! 04:32:36 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :P 04:32:58 <Stablean> <V453000> asdf 04:33:13 <Stablean> <V453000> how could you possibly suggest that I am scaring anybody 04:33:15 <Stablean> <V453000> duh! 04:33:42 <Stablean> <Big Meech> you're a scary bastard, is all 04:34:28 <Stablean> <V453000> :( 04:34:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> It's okay I still love you <3 04:34:44 <Stablean> <V453000> I will have my revenge through newGRFs 04:34:50 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yay! 04:35:40 <Stablean> <V453000> btw transfering away from the destination makes a lot of sense Meech 04:36:04 <Stablean> <Big Meech> meh 04:36:19 <Stablean> <Big Meech> the network is a mm for someone else to use 04:36:33 <Stablean> <Big Meech> they can ignore that part and build elsewhere, i dont care 04:37:09 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 04:37:58 <Stablean> *** Cameron has joined company #2 04:38:35 <Stablean> <V453000> no 04:38:55 <Stablean> <Cameron> why you get rid of new CC set? 04:39:45 <Stablean> <Big Meech> wasnt compatable i guess 04:40:33 <Stablean> <slicey> wow 04:40:55 <Stablean> <slicey> the factory i was going to use decieded (hey lets screw slicey over) :( 04:41:01 <Stablean> <V453000> making every colour different is seriously wrong 04:41:07 <Stablean> <V453000> spectators and such should always stay white 04:41:49 <Stablean> <V453000> besides I think the colours are worse there, too 04:43:35 <Stablean> <V453000> since everything here is drawn in ttd palette, adding CC things in totally different colour just makes it look like they dont fit there, for good reasons 04:45:39 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 04:53:41 <Stablean> <slicey> hello anyone? 04:53:47 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo 04:54:18 <Stablean> <slicey> alright i was messing with my signals fucked them up -.- 04:54:44 <Stablean> <Big Meech> where? 04:55:10 <Stablean> <slicey> near shibetsu 04:56:00 <Stablean> <Big Meech> all you need to do is reclick a few times to get them fixed 04:56:42 <Stablean> <slicey> ye 04:59:12 <Stablean> <slicey> ahh there we go 04:59:30 <Stablean> <Big Meech> do you know how to click drag? 04:59:36 <Stablean> <slicey> ofc 05:00:14 <Stablean> <Big Meech> still broken 05:00:18 <Stablean> <slicey> f me 05:00:40 <Stablean> <Big Meech> send me your p/w in pm and ill fix it 05:00:47 <Stablean> <Cameron> no thanks :p no homo 05:00:58 <Stablean> <Big Meech> not you :P 05:01:33 <Stablean> <slicey> na i got it bro :) 05:01:40 <Stablean> <Big Meech> looks really broken :D 05:04:04 <Stablean> <Big Meech> it could have been fixed by now if i was doing it :D 05:04:10 <Stablean> <Big Meech> you sure yo ugot it ? :D 05:04:30 <Stablean> <slicey> yyes :) 05:04:36 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 05:06:46 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yay 05:07:14 <Stablean> <slicey> there we go :) 05:08:33 *** Sylf has quit IRC 05:08:33 <Stablean> <Cameron> this will bring nice money for me :P 05:08:53 <Stablean> <Big Meech> no way :P 05:12:06 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop.stable 05:12:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sylf 05:14:47 <Stablean> <slicey> i want the new nuts train -.- 05:16:02 <Stablean> <V453000> what new nuts train :D 05:16:12 <Stablean> <Big Meech> he wants Version 2 05:16:14 <Stablean> <slicey> no just the better 05:16:16 <Stablean> <slicey> yea 05:16:18 <Stablean> <V453000> oh :) 05:16:56 <Stablean> <V453000> actually strong class would make a lot more sense for you to use 05:16:59 <Stablean> <V453000> but as you wish 05:17:22 <Stablean> <V453000> your trains rarely ever go above 100 05:17:32 <Stablean> <Cameron> gotta get me some superstrong now 05:17:47 <Stablean> <slicey> ahhh perfect 05:18:14 <Stablean> <Cameron> and some gen 3 wagons 05:18:16 <Stablean> <V453000> as you saw last game with the long fast monorail Cameron, using trivial "networks" from one end to another without hubs is no real point for superstrong 05:18:30 <Stablean> <slicey> 90mph and a strong 05:20:56 <Stablean> <slicey> 05:20:59 <Stablean> <V453000> 05:21:02 <Stablean> <Cameron> 05:21:20 <Stablean> <Big Meech> 05:23:23 <Stablean> <V453000> Big Meech being the slow retard as always 05:23:39 <Stablean> <Cameron> lol 05:23:48 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :'( 05:24:23 <Stablean> <V453000> :> 05:30:01 <Stablean> <Big Meech> slicey :) 05:30:03 <Stablean> <slicey> ? 05:30:10 <Stablean> <Big Meech> for next time 05:30:26 <Stablean> <Big Meech> when you want to service a farm, use 2 seperate stations, one for grain and one for livestock 05:37:26 *** Mkss has quit IRC 05:40:26 <Stablean> <slicey> well thanks to the damn local authority i get to go around the town 05:40:45 <Stablean> <Big Meech> plant trees :D 05:40:51 <Stablean> <slicey> yea i know 05:40:54 <Stablean> <Big Meech> usually requires bullzosing! 05:41:32 <Stablean> <V453000> anyway have a nice day everybody 05:41:34 <Stablean> <V453000> except meech 05:41:36 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 05:41:40 <Stablean> <Big Meech> pfft 05:42:30 <Stablean> <Cameron> poor Meeches :-| 05:42:38 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I know! 05:42:41 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 05:42:43 <Stablean> <slicey> damn u town 05:43:01 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol, nice ML cameron 05:43:23 <Stablean> <Cameron> i know :) 05:43:37 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I dont think that puny train can haul all of that! :D 05:43:59 <Stablean> <Big Meech> one of MFB's trains yeseterday were hauling 2.2 million pounds xD 05:45:31 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 05:45:49 <Stablean> <Big Meech> 27mph :D 05:45:55 <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh shit 05:46:01 <Stablean> <Big Meech> even bigger incline next! 05:46:24 <Stablean> <Big Meech> 18mph! :D 05:47:50 <Stablean> <Cameron> 118k... damn 05:49:12 <Stablean> <Big Meech> 11mph :D 05:49:59 <Stablean> <Cameron> I'd level out dem hills, but that's too costly 05:50:05 <Stablean> <Big Meech> haha 05:50:07 <Stablean> <Big Meech> 8) 05:50:25 <Stablean> <slicey> meech! look at my goods route :) took forever 05:50:59 <Stablean> <Cameron> your station pick up... 8) 05:51:25 <Stablean> <Cameron> and the tight corners...yuck 05:51:29 <Stablean> <slicey> stfu 05:51:31 <Stablean> <slicey> :P 05:51:49 <Stablean> <Big Meech> the areas where you cross you will want to leave more room next time 05:52:00 <Stablean> <slicey> :( 05:52:14 <Stablean> <Big Meech> If I were Diablo i would throw a fit xD 05:52:40 <Stablean> <slicey> if there is a problem i can remake bridges 05:56:19 <Stablean> <Big Meech> wathcing paint dry is quicker than your train, Cameron :D 05:56:41 <Stablean> <Cameron> omg, yeah, I bet 05:56:55 <Stablean> <Big Meech> needs moar TE and HP 05:57:11 <Stablean> <Cameron> well, I'm waiting for it 05:58:57 <Stablean> <Big Meech> down to 8 mph 05:59:20 <Stablean> <Cameron> SS for now will fix it, but still trying to refit them all 06:01:16 <Stablean> <Big Meech> delivery in 1 year? 06:02:22 <Stablean> <Cameron> I guess 06:02:25 <Stablean> <slicey> should i build a cross map? :P 06:03:07 <Stablean> <slicey> if i did it would be on edge pof map 06:07:22 <Stablean> <slicey> hmmm 06:10:53 <Stablean> <Big Meech> might want to add another coal train 06:10:59 <Stablean> <Big Meech> cam 06:11:05 <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh, nevermind one on the way :D 06:11:16 <Stablean> <slicey> meech u see my bridges :) 06:11:26 <Stablean> <slicey> left side of map 06:11:48 <Stablean> <slicey> :P 06:12:08 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I see some bridges 06:16:02 <Stablean> <slicey> around what year do good nuts trains come out? 06:16:45 <Stablean> <Cameron> and we've got problem, well itty bitty one 06:19:07 <Stablean> <slicey> in 9hrs will my railroad be here? 06:19:53 <Stablean> <slicey> well ttyl 06:19:53 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali joined the game 06:19:57 <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi 06:20:15 <Stablean> *** slicey has left the game (leaving) 06:21:40 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has started a new company (#6) 06:22:35 *** ODM has quit IRC 06:23:06 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 06:23:34 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined company #3 06:28:27 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi Ali 06:30:09 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 06:30:09 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 06:33:33 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 06:35:21 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #1 06:35:49 <Stablean> <Player> im not slicey 06:35:51 <Stablean> <Player> jk :) 06:36:50 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 06:38:24 <Stablean> *** Maraxus joined the game 06:43:20 <Stablean> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 06:43:24 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 06:44:43 *** gnemonix has quit IRC 06:55:29 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 07:09:28 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 07:10:00 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM has started a new company (#7) 07:16:39 <Stablean> *** Gashernite joined the game 07:17:08 <Stablean> *** Gashernite has started a new company (#8) 07:21:20 <Stablean> *** Pim joined the game 07:21:55 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has joined spectators 07:24:12 <Stablean> *** lightekk joined the game 07:24:45 <Stablean> *** lightekk has left the game (leaving) 07:29:53 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 07:30:08 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to slicey 07:30:30 <Stablean> *** slicey has joined company #1 07:32:25 <Stablean> <slicey> hello anyonme 07:32:29 <Stablean> <slicey> anyone* 07:32:43 <Stablean> <Gashernite> evening :) 07:32:57 <Stablean> <slicey> :P 07:33:11 <Stablean> <Gashernite> which part of the world are you from? 07:33:17 <Stablean> <slicey> america 07:33:37 <Stablean> <Gashernite> cool 07:33:43 <Stablean> <Gashernite> Australia here 07:33:49 <Stablean> <slicey> nice 07:36:23 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has joined company #6 07:36:35 <Stablean> <slicey> meech u here 07:38:02 <Stablean> <slicey> wow just wasted 7m -.- 07:49:06 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 07:49:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 08:03:37 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 08:06:38 <Stablean> *** LJani86 has started a new company (#9) 08:06:41 <Stablean> *** LJani86 joined the game 08:07:46 <Stablean> *** LJani86 has left the game (leaving) 08:07:51 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has joined spectators 08:13:14 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 08:13:23 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 joined the game 08:16:10 <Stablean> <ROM5419> wow, this is a big map 08:16:16 <Stablean> <slicey> no lol 08:16:34 <Stablean> <Gashernite> lol 08:16:36 <Stablean> <slicey> have u playes 2048x2048 08:16:39 <Stablean> <Gashernite> 2k x 2k is big 08:16:45 <Stablean> <slicey> played* 08:16:55 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I want to toy with an 8k x 8k map >.< 08:16:55 <Stablean> <slicey> hey gash 08:17:02 <Stablean> <Gashernite> Hey Slicey 08:17:13 <Stablean> <slicey> hows your industry production going 08:17:24 <Stablean> <slicey> i hate getting a good production 08:17:30 <Stablean> <Gashernite> not too bad, things are picking up :) 08:17:41 <Stablean> <slicey> nice i finally hit a 700 :) 08:18:03 <Stablean> <Gashernite> terraforming is way expensive though, which makes it hard 08:18:21 <Stablean> <slicey> and makes (strong) engines so important 08:18:29 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah 08:19:00 <Stablean> <slicey> just wait till 2000 then u get purr trains :) 08:19:19 <Stablean> <ROM5419> what's with the japanese city names? 08:19:30 <Stablean> <Cameron> idk 08:19:32 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I've actually never played with this newgrf before, it's interesting 08:19:34 <Stablean> <ROM5419> reminds me of "The Wolverine" i watched on saturday 08:19:38 <Stablean> <slicey> its like the (theme) 08:20:29 <Stablean> <slicey> well if u can last trains keep coming out even at 2070 08:20:32 <Stablean> <slicey> P 08:20:39 <Stablean> <Gashernite> nice 08:20:57 <Stablean> <slicey> there awesome u know the best maglev 08:21:07 <Stablean> <slicey> are* 08:22:21 <Stablean> <Gashernite> Should have my loan paid off soon :) 08:22:39 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has started a new company (#9) 08:22:42 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 08:22:45 <Stablean> <slicey> i think im lagging lol 08:22:49 <Stablean> <slicey> terrible computer 08:22:56 <Stablean> <slicey> need to go on my other one 08:23:31 <Stablean> <ROM5419> @Slicey: What's that small piece of rail doing near Tokyo? 08:23:45 <Stablean> <slicey> hm? 08:24:39 <Stablean> <slicey> 747 :))))) 08:24:45 <Stablean> <slicey> on my coal mine 08:25:47 <Stablean> <slicey> just hit 65 trains :P 08:26:01 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has started a new company (#10) 08:26:38 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (leaving) 08:27:17 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 08:27:20 <Stablean> <slicey> alright well im going to go to sleep its 1;30am 08:27:26 <Stablean> <Gashernite> g'night 08:27:28 <Stablean> <slicey> :P cya!! have fun 08:27:30 <Stablean> <ROM5419> its 4:30pm here 08:27:37 <Stablean> <Gashernite> 6:31pm here 08:27:40 <Stablean> <slicey> yea well i live in amurica 08:27:47 <Stablean> <ROM5419> 'murica. 08:27:49 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (leaving) 08:27:53 <Stablean> <Gashernite> lol 08:28:15 <Stablean> <slicey> dont pass me in $$$$$$$$$ 08:28:18 <Stablean> <slicey> lol 08:28:22 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I'll try not to 08:28:40 <Stablean> *** slicey has left the game (leaving) 08:28:48 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 08:28:52 <Stablean> <Henri> Hello 08:28:59 <Stablean> <ROM5419> hi 08:29:03 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 08:29:05 <Stablean> <Gashernite> hi Henri 08:29:23 <Stablean> <Anson> breakdowns and thus no need to force service for your long trains ... that speeds up things :-) 08:30:33 <Stablean> *** Henri has started a new company (#11) 08:30:57 <Stablean> <Anson> where did the first part of my sentence go ? ... i said "hallo ... a hint: breakdowns on this server usually are off and thus no need ...." 08:31:24 <Stablean> <Cameron> refits :) 08:32:16 <Stablean> <Cameron> what's weird is, I have a small lump on my tongue 08:32:55 <Stablean> *** Pim has left the game (general timeout) 08:32:55 <Stablean> *** Pim has left the game (connection lost) 08:33:13 <Stablean> <Gashernite> it's taken me 5 years to get rid of half my loan... 08:33:27 <Stablean> <Henri> crap 08:33:34 <Stablean> <Henri> used wrong tail 08:33:37 <Stablean> <Henri> rail type 08:33:41 <Stablean> *** Pim joined the game 08:33:46 <Stablean> <Gashernite> mind you I did a stupid and tried to teraform straight up... 08:33:56 <Stablean> <Henri> : D 08:34:55 <Stablean> <Gashernite> so I ded 750,000 worth of terraforming and then had 250,000 to figure out how to make money... 08:35:01 <Stablean> <Gashernite> did* 08:35:28 <Stablean> <Anson> cameron: are 17 depots needed along a (long) route for refitting coal ? :-) 08:36:07 <Stablean> *** Henri has joined spectators 08:36:11 <Stablean> <Cameron> maybe, took me 20 mins to fix 8 trains that were too long 08:36:25 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (leaving) 08:37:39 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop.stable 08:43:56 *** Anson has quit IRC 08:44:16 *** Anson has joined #openttdcoop.stable 08:47:29 <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#11) 08:48:52 <Stablean> *** Pim has left the game (leaving) 08:49:15 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Anson: What do you think about making long refitning trains? 08:49:20 <Stablean> *** Pim joined the game 08:54:41 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has started a new company (#12) 08:54:45 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has joined spectators 08:55:33 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has started a new company (#13) 08:58:08 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (leaving) 09:01:11 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 09:01:23 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (leaving) 09:01:39 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> hi all 09:01:42 <Stablean> <Gashernite> hi 09:02:37 <Stablean> *** Pim has joined company #5 09:22:58 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Anson are you there? 09:23:29 <Stablean> <Anson> yes 09:24:11 <Stablean> <Anson> about long refitting trains: as with everything else ... it depends :-) 09:24:17 <Stablean> <r1kkie> :) 09:24:39 <Stablean> <Anson> the depots and the time to use them might be a challenge, but when travel takes a long time anyway, it isn't too bad 09:24:54 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Thinking about trying it this map. 09:25:44 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 09:26:26 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer joined the game 09:26:29 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Does it work good with more then one raw material mine? Or is it best to use transfer stations? :) 09:28:33 <Stablean> <Anson> what do you mean ? the refitting happens because you want to transport something different at secondaries, not primaries/mines 09:28:59 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Never mind. :D 09:29:53 <Stablean> <Anson> but if you never did refitting networks before, you might want to experiment with a smaller network and shorter trains first .. 09:30:21 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer has started a new company (#12) 09:30:30 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Maby. :D 09:31:48 <Stablean> <Anson> did you see the wood loop and the iron/steel loop last game ? ... i used at least 3 different methods to refit there 09:32:10 <Stablean> <r1kkie> I saw the iron loop. Made one myself to. 09:32:44 <Stablean> <Gashernite> might be a bit of a noob question... 09:32:54 <Stablean> <Gashernite> but what's an "implicit" order? 09:33:29 <Stablean> <Anson> when you don't use non-stop orders, trains might stop at other stations too ... those stations get the implicit orders 09:33:52 <Stablean> <Gashernite> so I guess it's just to tell what stations it goes to? 09:33:58 <Stablean> <Anson> omplicit = you didn't tell them to go there, but they think they might have an order for those stations 09:34:25 <Stablean> <Anson> not to TELL, but to SHOW/SEE 09:34:47 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> yellow 09:34:51 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> look at your train 52 09:34:53 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> me 09:34:59 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> there might be a problem there 09:35:02 <Stablean> <Anson> you tell the train with explicit orders what to do ... and when they think they should add some other station in between, that is implicit 09:35:20 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> i am color yellow 09:35:30 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> yes thats right 09:35:33 <Stablean> <Gashernite> seems redundant :/ 09:35:39 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> no 09:36:21 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> his 52 train its from company 1 09:36:35 <Stablean> <Anson> when you have three stations one after another, called A B C, you give an axplicit order to go from A to C ... 09:36:37 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> oh sry 09:36:48 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> then thats not you 09:37:01 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> yeap 09:37:16 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> ist name is Slicey 09:37:19 <Stablean> <Anson> that is an explicit order ... if it is non-stop, that's all ... but if it is a simple goto, the train will stop at B too, and that is an implicit order 09:37:25 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I got it 09:37:40 <Stablean> <Anson> and so that you can see what the train will do, the implicit order is listed in the order list 09:37:55 <Stablean> <Gashernite> the apparent implicit order that the train got wasn't in it's path though :/ 09:38:22 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Well the train could have taken another route due to rebuilding maby 09:38:36 <Stablean> <Gashernite> maybe, oh well 09:38:38 <Stablean> <Gashernite> it's gone now :P 09:38:49 <Stablean> <Anson> that's exactly why they show what the train thinks that it should do :-) 09:39:04 <Stablean> <r1kkie> ;P 09:39:07 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I changed it's orders 09:39:29 <Stablean> <Gashernite> found a much further sawmill to go to instead of a local one 09:39:55 <Stablean> <Anson> but except for SRNW or similar, it probably is always best to give explicit orders only, and there is even a setting in the options to always use non-stop orders by default 09:41:55 <Stablean> <Anson> if you don't use non-stop orders, trains might already unload at another station before doing a long trip, or they try to load/unload different cargo somewhere and thus cause those stations to get that cargo from a factory even though you don't want that 09:42:45 <Stablean> <Anson> and then you never get rid of that "wrong cargo" again without destroying the station and building a new one 09:48:57 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has joined company #6 09:51:47 <Stablean> <Gashernite> there is a town called Obama O.o 09:51:57 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 09:52:05 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> USA is everywhere :P 09:52:40 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Japanees city name, YEAH RIHGHT! :D 09:52:50 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> ű 09:52:52 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> x) 09:52:52 <Stablean> <r1kkie> RIGHT* 09:53:10 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I cringe every time I need to terraform :( 09:55:56 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#13) 09:56:00 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 09:56:06 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has joined spectators 09:56:08 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to szachu 09:56:12 <Stablean> *** szachu has started a new company (#14) 09:56:22 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has changed his/her name to smile 09:56:47 <Stablean> *** smile has joined company #9 09:59:19 <Stablean> *** smile has joined spectators 09:59:24 <Stablean> *** smile has started a new company (#13) 10:01:57 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Kaboom! 10:02:07 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah... oops 10:03:07 <Stablean> *** {[FR]Syl59} joined the game 10:07:12 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 10:07:29 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi all 10:07:33 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> hy 10:07:35 <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi 10:07:37 <Stablean> <r1kkie> To! 10:07:44 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> hi happy 10:08:02 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> its me RTM 10:08:17 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> \ 10:08:36 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has started a new company (#15) 10:13:25 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 10:13:25 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 10:14:15 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer has left the game (leaving) 10:14:23 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 10:14:23 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 10:15:21 <Stablean> *** [FR]Syl59 has left the game (leaving) 10:19:18 <Stablean> *** Pim has left the game (general timeout) 10:19:18 <Stablean> *** Pim has left the game (connection lost) 10:24:09 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM has joined spectators 10:24:43 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (leaving) 10:25:31 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 10:26:27 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 10:27:32 <Stablean> *** szachu has left the game (general timeout) 10:27:32 <Stablean> *** szachu has left the game (connection lost) 10:29:15 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 10:30:36 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 10:30:40 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:31:14 <Stablean> *** Maraxus joined the game 10:31:47 <Stablean> *** Gashernite has joined spectators 10:37:21 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has joined spectators 10:37:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be back later 10:37:47 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 10:38:05 <Stablean> *** Gashernite has joined company #8 10:51:17 <Stablean> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 10:51:21 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 10:52:57 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to ringgeest11 10:54:33 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has joined company #6 11:01:32 <Stablean> *** slaca joined the game 11:02:03 <Stablean> <Gashernite> Kaboom!! 11:02:06 <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> :D 11:02:10 <Stablean> <r1kkie> :) 11:03:00 <Stablean> <Gashernite> least it wasn't like a inter-city passenger train :P 11:06:18 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I think it is [RO] that is missing quite a bunch of signals on a long piece of rail 11:06:52 <Stablean> <Gashernite> so many signals O.o 11:06:59 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Nope, it is Slicey's company 11:08:17 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Crap, I misstyped my password. LOL 11:08:31 <Stablean> <Gashernite> /facepalm 11:08:38 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (leaving) 11:08:42 <Stablean> *** slaca has left the game (leaving) 11:08:55 <Stablean> *** smile has joined company #9 11:09:09 <Stablean> *** smile has joined company #13 11:09:19 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 joined the game 11:15:00 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 11:15:20 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (general timeout) 11:15:20 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (connection lost) 11:15:27 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 11:15:54 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has joined company #9 11:16:43 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (leaving) 11:17:01 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 joined the game 11:17:33 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 11:17:47 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 joined the game 11:20:06 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (leaving) 11:22:38 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer joined the game 11:23:23 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi all 11:23:27 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Yo 11:23:33 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Greetings 11:24:32 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem sum how i can not get in to my company 11:24:58 <Stablean> <Gashernite> did you forget the password? 11:25:04 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nop 11:25:19 <Stablean> <Gashernite> not sure 11:25:49 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer has left the game (leaving) 11:26:11 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> did maraxus john my cumpany i did arsk he can john 11:26:37 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I don't know 11:26:59 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok i will arsk hem when he cums back 11:27:11 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It appears I cannot build any stations near places where goods are available or accepted? 11:27:26 <Stablean> <Gashernite> town rating probably... 11:27:36 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Most likly 11:27:38 <Stablean> <Gashernite> build lots of trees around the town, should let you then 11:27:52 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It does not mention anything about the local authorities. 11:27:59 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Does that work? 11:28:09 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah... did for me :P 11:28:11 <Stablean> <r1kkie> ringgeest11: where? 11:28:14 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Cool 11:28:30 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Hold on, I think it might have fixed it regardless 11:28:44 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Oshu did not have any rating of me before but now they have so let's try 11:29:14 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Nope... still cannot build anything. LOcation is the Oshu Forest. 11:29:17 <Stablean> <Anson> http://wiki.openttd.org/Game_mechanics#Local_authority_rating 11:30:15 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Local town rating is Very Good. Error message says: Can't build railwaystation here... 11:30:26 <Stablean> <Gashernite> land flat? 11:30:36 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Completely flat, yes 11:30:46 <Stablean> <Anson> if you cannot build something, you should get a red message box somewhere .. what does it say ? 11:30:48 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 11:31:06 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yes that is the forest 11:31:21 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> The error message says: Can't build Railwaystation here... 11:31:35 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I can build :/ 11:32:29 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 11:32:33 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Maybe the wrong kind of station that I used? 11:32:41 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has joined spectators 11:32:45 <Stablean> <Gashernite> don't think it matters 11:33:07 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Try using the following station: City Stations 11:33:19 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> All the way on the bottom of the stations scroll list. 11:34:05 <Stablean> <Gashernite> probably needs to be in a city... 11:34:20 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Did that before, but gave the same error message 11:34:26 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> So I tried a forest instead 11:34:41 <Stablean> <Gashernite> weird 11:34:59 <Stablean> <Anson> all stations are the same ... only difference is the looks 11:35:37 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Strange it did work. At least I can build with the other stations so it is kind of fixed =) 11:35:49 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Are you trying to build the cranestation, it has a maximum leanght of 4 etc. 11:36:35 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> No, it were the City Stations. I tried building one near the city but that failed, so I tried a forest instead. I did not change stationtype meanwhile 11:37:11 <Stablean> <Gashernite> could be scritped to only be allowed after a certain year or in a certain population density? 11:37:19 <Stablean> *** maroa joined the game 11:38:09 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Oh wait, I can select the station type but the actual station tiles were all greyed out 11:38:32 <Stablean> *** maroa has left the game (leaving) 11:38:34 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Maybe they will unlock in a later year then? Anyways... I was kinda blind. Sorry for he fuss 11:38:34 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I didn't even notice that :P 11:39:00 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ghehe :P 11:45:06 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Anson: Interessting to do these refiting trains. 11:48:36 <Stablean> <Gashernite> great, I have to build a 4-way junction on a slope... 11:48:42 <Stablean> <r1kkie> :) 11:48:50 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yeeeeey, so much fun ;P 11:49:13 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Makes it a little more challanging 11:50:03 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> A little? Man I am trying to keep this track as even as possible without laying a massive amount of tunnels and bridges. 11:50:13 <Stablean> <r1kkie> :D 11:50:16 <Stablean> <Gashernite> don't even bother :P 11:50:18 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> And that ain't the easiest thing to do on a budget ;) 11:50:25 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Where are building? 11:50:31 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 11:57:12 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has joined company #6 11:59:37 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well crap... 11:59:50 <Stablean> <Gashernite> ? 11:59:52 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I just finished the line, two seconds later that damn woodmill closes 11:59:58 <Stablean> <Gashernite> >.< 12:00:00 <Stablean> <r1kkie> :) 12:00:00 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> And the line is now useless >< 12:00:14 <Stablean> <r1kkie> How much to found one yourself? 12:00:20 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Lemme see 12:00:34 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yikes... 850.000 punds 12:00:52 <Stablean> <Gashernite> take out a loan? 12:00:54 <Stablean> <Anson> sawmill = 1.75 mil $ 12:01:16 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Nothing that I can pay. Furthermore the Oshu Transfer does not want to be loading any wood onto the train? 12:01:44 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Thanks for the money, but I won't place a sawmill jst yet as long as that train s not even loading at all 12:02:03 <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> np 12:02:38 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Thanks. I need to refit it slightly first though 12:02:48 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, that is an error that often happens to me too 12:03:19 <Stablean> <Anson> after selecting a filter in the buy menu and buying wagons, they still have the default cargo and need a refit 12:03:37 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yeah I just noticed. Hurr hurr. Thanks for the tip ^^ 12:03:44 <Stablean> <Gashernite> Bottlenecks... Bottlenecks everywhere!! 12:03:59 <Stablean> <Anson> would be nice if the buy window would automatically refit wagons when you have a filter and buy them 12:04:30 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Also, I ust finded the new sawmill from the money I received =) Thanks a lot! When possible I will repay you in the near future 12:04:41 <Stablean> <Anson> i now have the habit of starting all orders with a refit, so that they always have the right type 12:04:51 <Stablean> <Gashernite> not a bad idea 12:04:54 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Thats a good Idea 12:05:10 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Dayum its rainging bad here 12:05:20 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has joined spectators 12:05:24 <Stablean> <Anson> that is also useful when you have refitting networks: the cloned trains might have a different cargo type than you expect or need for the new train 12:05:34 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Good idea indeed. Also I need to get used to some of the new trains and what all the signs around them mean. 12:05:37 <Stablean> *** {[FR]Syl59} joined the game 12:06:57 <Stablean> <Anson> if you do it like me, don't forget to add a jump order at the end, or the train will go to a depot every time 12:09:11 <Stablean> <Anson> i hate towns that rebuild their houses and thus move the area where goods are accepted :-( 12:09:22 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 12:09:36 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I can imagine... What about buying the land surrounded it all? 12:09:57 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 12:10:02 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi all 12:10:12 <Stablean> <Anson> on this server, towns never build roads themselves 12:10:14 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Hi ^^ 12:10:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 12:10:22 <Stablean> <Anson> no ned to imprison towns 12:10:24 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> hi 12:10:50 <Stablean> <Anson> but they can still grow and change houses .... 12:10:56 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Hey RTM, you are aware that a portion of your railway is missing signals? 12:11:12 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> where 12:11:18 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Problem with your pass happy ? 12:11:20 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I will place a sign 12:11:27 <Stablean> <Gashernite> wasn't that slicers rails? 12:11:41 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Look for Missing Signals Sign 12:12:08 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> No, I looked up the directories and it appeared to be RTM's trains after a quick look up 12:12:18 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> tats not my company 12:12:24 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> thats the Company 1 12:12:34 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yellow vs orange again :P 12:12:48 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> urgh im being stupid... 12:13:22 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> look at my name 12:13:28 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> and trains 12:13:39 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> i only have 5 12:13:59 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> he have 65 12:14:01 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yeah. I got confused again. Sorry, it is my first time playing coop and I am fairly new tothe game... 12:14:20 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> orange and yellow ar confused 12:14:42 <Stablean> <Gashernite> well lets help them understand then? :P 12:14:45 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Does not make me feel less stupid about it though ;P 12:14:47 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> there is a ngf that change colors 12:14:54 <Stablean> <Anson> to not get confused by colors, you can doublecheck by using the info icon and looking who is the owner of a rail 12:15:16 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> Anson the iscorrect advace 12:15:43 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (general timeout) 12:15:43 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (connection lost) 12:16:56 <Stablean> <Anson> my station at Tsuruoka accepts goods again ... and thanks to conditional orders, it already cleared most of the stored cargo :-) 12:17:19 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 joined the game 12:17:34 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Aaaand im back. Sorry, the wifi hotspot here isnt the best one in the world ^^ 12:21:12 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has joined company #6 12:23:42 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has left the game (leaving) 12:31:22 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk joined the game 12:31:26 <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi 12:31:32 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> hey 12:31:39 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 12:31:46 <Stablean> <Anson> why can't i find the brickwalker in the buy menu, while it shows up for autoreplace ? 12:32:05 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Magic? 12:32:15 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Is it greyed out in the replacement option? 12:32:54 <Stablean> <Anson> i am able to start the autoreplace 12:33:20 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> In that cse I have no idea... I dont think it is a model that is out of date yet right? 12:33:24 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk has joined company #6 12:33:38 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 12:33:40 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 12:33:56 <Stablean> <Anson> 1961 12:34:18 <Stablean> <Gashernite> wasn't that the year of the "we're going to the moon" speech? 12:34:24 <Stablean> <Anson> LOL ... found it 12:34:42 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 12:34:42 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 12:34:52 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I dont know what year that speech was... I am not that old to begin with. Not even close 12:35:14 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I was born 19 years after the moon landing... 12:35:16 <Stablean> <Anson> there should be a filter for "engines" ... if you use "none", all engines which can transport pax or cargo themselves are not shown 12:35:23 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk has left the game (leaving) 12:36:04 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> The moonlanding was in 1969 right? 12:36:10 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah 12:36:24 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I was born 25 years after. 12:36:31 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I find it funny that everything good happened in 1969... 12:36:38 <Stablean> <Gashernite> because... 69! 12:36:41 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> lol 12:38:23 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> How can my local station rating drop even when there is no downtime between the trains? 12:38:42 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> As in, as soon as one train leaves fully loaded, an empty one rolls onto the platform 12:39:00 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I forget :/ 12:41:22 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Anson: are you there? 12:42:16 <Anson> yes... but a moment please. ... phone 12:42:31 *** Anson has quit IRC 12:42:33 <Stablean> <Gashernite> my bad 12:42:51 *** Anson has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:43:03 <Stablean> <r1kkie> My mines need to grow more! :/ 12:43:33 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Tell me about it... Although in my case it is a forest 12:43:59 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Like in 15 years its moved from 40-56 :/ 12:46:14 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I'm not really sure that would count as stealing... 12:46:37 <Stablean> <Gashernite> you're not using the goods side of the sawmill... so it's fair game? 12:46:51 <Stablean> <Anson> http://wiki.openttd.org/Game_mechanics#Industry_production 12:47:09 <Stablean> <r1kkie> :) 12:47:09 <Stablean> <Anson> http://wiki.openttd.org/Game_mechanics#Station_rating 12:47:48 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Anson: Got a second? 12:48:22 <Stablean> <Anson> if you build a statue, that increases the station rating by 10%, but you never can get rid of the statue again if you don't want it any longer sometime later 12:49:20 <Stablean> <Anson> if you have a new station with new trains, that gives a bonus at first, but after trains are three years old, rating drops by 13% 12:49:47 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ah didn't know that little piece of info 12:51:06 <Stablean> <Anson> lots of interesting info in the wikis of openttd and openttdcoop 12:51:36 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I have read almost all of it. I think that little piece of info slipped past 12:52:07 <Stablean> <Anson> btw: in the last game, i had one forest that got from 40 to 80 in 50 years ... and another went from 60 to 950 in 15 years ... it is a lot of luck with the RNG 12:52:23 <Stablean> <r1kkie> I know. :D 12:52:37 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> RNG, sometimes not your friend 12:54:16 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 12:54:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i can not john my cumpeny 12:58:27 <V453000> you are welcome John 12:58:38 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks v 12:59:29 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> No not yet. 12:59:39 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Don't quite have enough wood running towards it yet 13:02:09 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (general timeout) 13:02:09 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (connection lost) 13:03:55 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 joined the game 13:04:23 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Im back once more. Did you say anything else Gasher? 13:04:37 <Stablean> <Gashernite> nah 13:05:59 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> But no, I am not currently using the goods yet as I think it cannot provide a train properly yet. I don't know how effective road vehicles are currently? 13:07:51 <Stablean> <Gashernite> that was the most expensive station renovation I've ever done >.< 13:09:46 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> What did you do? 13:10:24 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I move the Tokushima Power Station onto the other side of the power plant 13:11:58 <Stablean> <Gashernite> anyone have suggestions for my junction near the Tokushima Power Station? 13:12:16 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Make a sign 13:12:30 <Stablean> <Gashernite> done 13:12:52 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> where does it need to go to? 13:12:54 <Stablean> <r1kkie> 4 way junction? 13:13:36 <Stablean> <Gashernite> really only needs to go to the power station and north-south 13:13:50 <Stablean> <Gashernite> but there is a line merge too 13:14:20 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> So does it need to cross that line that is running and need to connect to the Powerplant station? 13:14:56 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yes, but also needs to hear to the left as well 13:15:15 <Stablean> <Gashernite> actually... doesn't5 need to go to power station 13:15:29 <Stablean> <Gashernite> problem solved :p 13:15:31 <Stablean> <Gashernite> thanks 13:17:45 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Got to go. Happy Building boys! 13:18:24 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 13:21:16 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Welp, it is time to get those goods exported to another city! Let's see how this will end up 13:21:28 <Stablean> <Gashernite> goodluck 13:21:42 <Stablean> <Gashernite> From Tama? 13:21:45 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Thanks ^^ 13:21:48 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yeah from Tama 13:21:59 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I'll get out of your way if I can :D 13:22:02 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> The biggest issue will likely be space and whereto palce the station :P 13:22:24 <Stablean> <Gashernite> why not use the station already there? 13:22:46 <Stablean> <Gashernite> can extend by 2 platforms at least (little terraforming though) 13:23:08 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Tama does not really like me atm :P I will be expanding those stations already there 13:23:15 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> But I don 13:23:29 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> dont want the wood cargo trains to interfere with the crates of goods 13:23:31 <Stablean> <Gashernite> oh wow... :P 13:24:02 <Stablean> <Gashernite> you could bridge over my line easily enough 13:24:16 <Stablean> <Gashernite> just need to modify your current line in a little 13:24:20 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> True. 13:24:31 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yeah I think I know something that might work 13:24:41 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Now to plant a ton of trees so Tama likes me again 13:24:47 <Stablean> <Gashernite> :P 13:25:13 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> They still hate me to the bone after all those trees D= 13:25:51 <Stablean> <Gashernite> now put trees in that spot 13:25:57 <Stablean> <Gashernite> (i don't play with trees on, they're annoying 13:26:03 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> yey hey like me again ^^ Thanks 13:26:10 <Stablean> <Gashernite> np :) 13:26:16 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Mine are just transparent. 13:26:26 <Stablean> <Gashernite> mine are invisible 13:29:40 <Stablean> <Gashernite> thanks for the terraforming too ey? :P 13:29:50 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> But ofcourse! ^^ 13:30:04 <Stablean> <Gashernite> :P 13:31:03 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Now let me see. That current intersection here 13:31:34 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Any way I could transform it into a T section ? 13:31:48 <Stablean> <Gashernite> just a sec, modifying an intersectiong 13:32:06 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yeah not problem 13:37:58 <Stablean> <Gashernite> oh, lol >.< 13:38:17 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Whut? 13:38:52 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ah, nah ;) I think that one should do the trick just fine 13:39:31 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I will figure something out that will work over there as it simpl is traffic splitting and not coming together 13:40:05 <Stablean> <Gashernite> see what I'm doing? 13:40:24 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Not really? 13:40:42 <Stablean> <Gashernite> instead of having the line from the south go all the way around 13:40:56 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Aaah like that 13:41:02 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah 13:41:04 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali joined the game 13:41:12 <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi 13:41:14 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well the reasoning behind that one was that I might need another station there 13:41:30 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> So I went around the long way as I can always make it a little more compact 13:41:32 <Stablean> <Gashernite> that's a lot of terraforming :P 13:41:38 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has joined company #6 13:41:42 <Stablean> <Gashernite> hi 13:42:10 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer joined the game 13:42:38 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> What I meant was that I need three lines converging on that one station block 13:43:28 <Stablean> <Gashernite> that will help a bit 13:43:42 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Probably yes, thanks =) 13:44:33 <Stablean> <Gashernite> (less bridges) 13:45:11 <Stablean> *** [FR]Syl59 has left the game (leaving) 13:48:36 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM has joined spectators 13:49:03 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well that should work 13:49:13 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (leaving) 13:49:18 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Also, thank you map for making me love bridges and tunnels so much 13:49:36 <Stablean> <Gashernite> haha, have yo seen most of my network? 13:50:02 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Not yet. I will as soon as I finish this little crates part 13:50:14 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It would be a shame to let all those goods go to waste, right? ;P 13:50:36 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has joined spectators 13:50:44 <Stablean> <Gashernite> also, grats on getting a town that accepted goods 13:51:06 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Not that difficult? At least not as far as I know? 13:51:24 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I had trouble finding on where I could build a largish station 13:52:36 <Stablean> <Gashernite> 1969!!!! 13:52:50 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yeeeeeey! Moon landings and all! 13:53:00 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah... moonlanding ;) 13:53:02 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Maybe we get a new train that is basically one big ass rocket? 13:53:24 <Stablean> <Gashernite> just imagine trains on the moon... 13:53:38 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Seems like fun 13:53:40 <Stablean> <Gashernite> go over a hill at 120kmh and achieve orbit O.o 13:53:46 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ghehe that is less fun 13:54:08 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Actually... 13:54:10 <Stablean> <Gashernite> actually I've got no idea what the escape velocity is... 13:54:16 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It would not be THAT big of a challange 13:54:40 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> We use a principle of 'hooked' wheels on rollercoasters so they don't fly off right 13:54:46 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Same thing could be done with trains on the moon 13:54:52 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I know... but that's no fun :p 13:55:02 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ghehe 13:55:44 <Stablean> <Gashernite> hmm... oil well doing 315k... not bad 14:00:27 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well, that is not too bad for some goods right? 14:01:09 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah, not too shabby :) 14:01:28 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> 270 goods per train and they cycle nicely. 14:01:59 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Are goods that are dropped off influenced by station rating? 14:02:17 <Stablean> <Gashernite> only if there are competing stations for the sme goods 14:02:29 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I see 14:02:43 <Stablean> <Gashernite> say if I built a station next door and had better ratings... I'd get the goods 14:02:57 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> No no, I mean dropping off goods at a town 14:02:59 <Stablean> <Gashernite> which I could do without too much hassle :P 14:03:02 <Stablean> <Gashernite> oh, no 14:04:57 <Stablean> <Gashernite> is inflation on? 14:05:04 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I dont think 14:05:07 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> its on 14:05:17 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It is off 14:05:39 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> You can check in the advanced settings 14:05:50 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> At least Ithink those show th server's side 14:05:56 <Stablean> <Anson> just look at the max loan ... it is constant 14:06:10 <Stablean> <Gashernite> sweet 14:08:24 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I am going to take a look at your network now 14:08:30 <Stablean> <Gashernite> okay 14:08:45 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I consider the current mini etwork good enough and to be tested 14:09:35 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (general timeout) 14:09:35 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (connection lost) 14:09:41 <Stablean> *** Otto Fisher joined the game 14:10:30 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 14:11:33 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 joined the game 14:11:40 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Aaaand im back once more 14:12:40 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> The fudge? 14:12:51 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> A town lost about 300 inhabitants just like that 14:14:54 <Stablean> <Gashernite> Slicey, Y U NO ONLINE??!! 14:15:12 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> lol 14:17:50 <Stablean> <Gashernite> "Bridge too long!" 14:17:53 <Stablean> <Gashernite> oh heck no... 14:18:11 <Stablean> *** Otto Fisher has left the game (leaving) 14:19:11 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> What is the maximum length? 14:19:17 <Stablean> <Gashernite> 12 14:19:44 <Stablean> <Gashernite> and get this... a bridge with a length of 3... costs 2mil O.o 14:20:03 <Stablean> <Anson> train 12, bridge 8, tunnel 500, station 12 14:20:17 <Stablean> <Gashernite> oh... 8 14:20:35 <Stablean> <Anson> sorry, train 64 ... but that would take a long time to load/unload 14:20:49 <Stablean> <Gashernite> >.< 14:20:55 <Stablean> <Gashernite> and wouldn't fit in a station? 14:20:57 <Stablean> <Anson> 8 + 2 bridgeheads = total length 10 14:21:03 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Why can a tunnel be tremendously larger than a bridge? 8 compared to 400? 14:21:33 <Stablean> <Anson> because it is just numbers in the configuration :-) 14:22:21 <Stablean> <Anson> and if you want a realistic backgrund: tunnels always have support by the mountains, but bridgesdon't and thus are more limited 14:22:23 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Fair enough, but gamplaywise why make that choice I mean? Not critisising anyone here. Simply trying to understand the thoughtprocess behind the decision ^^ 14:22:42 <Stablean> <Gashernite> Aliens... 14:22:53 <Stablean> <Anson> no, aliens are off :-) 14:22:59 <Stablean> <Gashernite> /facepalm 14:23:22 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I'd call it a fair point ^^ 14:23:28 <Stablean> <Gashernite> haha 14:23:47 <Stablean> <Anson> on a multiplayer game, the game also runs while people are AFK from one day to the next, and aliens who destroy rails wouldn't be nice to have around 14:24:07 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Bankrupt before you knw it 14:24:41 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Also, I hate this laptop keyboard... Back home it will be better *pads himself on back telling imself it will all 'be over soon'* 14:33:09 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (general timeout) 14:33:10 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (connection lost) 14:33:40 <Stablean> <Gashernite> so I've got an oil line that runs almost the whole length of the map :D 14:34:26 <Stablean> <Anson> be glad that you have a keyboard ... playing ottd without keyboard is not easy 14:34:45 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I only use keyboard to chat... or close windows 14:34:53 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 joined the game 14:34:55 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> Ctrl? 14:35:01 <Stablean> <Gashernite> O.o 14:35:15 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I only use delete 14:35:17 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> Im sure you use that almighty ctrl key 14:35:32 <Stablean> <Gashernite> oh and ` to look at the chat log 14:35:38 <Stablean> <Gashernite> what does ctrl do? 14:35:40 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> well 14:35:43 <Stablean> <Anson> if you don't use CTRL, you miss half the posibilities 14:35:45 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> hard to tell 14:35:51 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> easier to link:P 14:35:57 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> google it 14:36:01 <Stablean> <Anson> http://wiki.openttd.org/Ctrl 14:36:03 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> openttd wiki -ctrl 14:36:39 <Stablean> <Gashernite> oh... wow 14:36:45 <Stablean> <Anson> almost every option you have, has an additional option with CTRL 14:37:03 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> All hail CTRL! 14:37:05 <Stablean> <Gashernite> lol 14:37:07 <Stablean> <Anson> build - with ctrl it deletes 14:37:17 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> copy train+ctrl <3 14:37:20 <Stablean> <Anson> clone, with ctrl you also share orders 14:37:32 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yup, that is a beauty to have 14:37:34 <Stablean> <Gashernite> you guys are just quoting the wiki now :P 14:37:48 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> We ARE the wiki ;D 14:37:55 <Stablean> <Gashernite> >.< 14:37:57 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> well, the other good idea is ctrl+build station 14:37:59 <Stablean> <Anson> no, it is just what comes to mind when i think what i do most often 14:38:21 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> @ringgest11 XD 14:38:41 <Stablean> <Anson> without CTRL, you are stuck almost at what TTD allowed when building stations 14:38:55 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> well 14:38:57 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I started in TTD :/ 14:39:07 <Stablean> <Anson> and i started with TT :-) 14:39:13 <Stablean> <Gashernite> show off 14:39:31 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> CTRL is the differnce between TTD and OTTD -mainly there are many things but these are not as much important as ctrl 14:39:33 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I started with OTTD... like 4-5 days go 14:39:48 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> :D 14:39:54 <Stablean> <Anson> i even got mail (not email) from chris (or one of his employees) 14:40:00 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I started with TTd in 2005 14:40:10 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> wow :D 14:40:29 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I'm impressed 14:40:32 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Sweet 14:40:46 <Stablean> <Gashernite> Is Owen Rudge still running things? 14:40:48 <Stablean> <Anson> i had found a bug in TT, and thus they sent me a letter with a floppy, which had a patch and also the editor which was not yet publicly available 14:40:54 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Th e onlything I got from a dev personally was.... well nothing as far as I can remember 14:41:13 <Stablean> <Gashernite> oh... my little claim to fame... 14:41:35 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> Btw have you given it to any museums? :P 14:41:35 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I started the patch that allowed stations past the original limit :D 14:41:42 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> the letter/floppy? :D 14:42:29 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> lets see 14:43:13 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> only 154k for goods between the two opposite corners of the map? too bad 14:45:31 <Stablean> <Anson> but i have to admit that TT was almost not playable ... trains would always breakdown, and you couldn't even build double tracks since two trains always would start on both rails and deadlock with any third train on the same route 14:45:50 <Stablean> <Gashernite> ouch 14:45:52 <Stablean> <Anson> with no oneway signals, it was quite difficult 14:46:12 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I still remember TTD: 80 from everything 14:46:18 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> not moe 14:46:20 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> more* 14:46:40 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> And no building on slopes/copy train option 14:46:55 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:47:10 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I remember when building on slopes came in... was heaven 14:47:10 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I have played it not a long time ago and I missed that two things from OTTD the most 14:47:29 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> 5×5 stations 14:47:37 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> only loading bays for RVs 14:47:39 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I think I will just stick to OTTD and not go with TTD in general... 14:47:45 <Stablean> <Anson> the only solution to the "oneway problem" was to build stations with a spiral around them, so that trains (mostly) would leave the station on one rail only, and then build a loop around te world so that they never came back on the same track 14:48:00 <Stablean> <Gashernite> >.< 14:48:35 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Chochooo! First express train is on its way 14:48:57 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I want to see more green , yellow ,blue and white rails :P 14:48:59 <Stablean> <Anson> TTD was a big iprovement, and then came TTDpatch which added those things which made it fun to play 14:49:08 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 14:49:40 <Stablean> <V453000> pur 14:49:50 <Stablean> <Gashernite> to change my network, it will cost 22million 14:50:01 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Helllo kitty 14:50:20 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> The only thing I dont like (but that makes the game challenging btw) is the fact that you cant build signals in tunnels/on bridges 14:50:35 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I dont mind too much 14:50:49 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah, you learn to deal with it 14:50:51 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Slight nuisance, but it does force players to be careful with their bridges 14:51:10 <Stablean> <V453000> it adds a very interesting element into the game 14:51:22 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Agreed 14:51:25 <Stablean> <V453000> if you could build signals on bridges, why would you build normal tracks then 14:51:39 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> it doesnt cost as much 14:51:45 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> as a bridge would 14:51:47 <Stablean> <V453000> cost is irrelevant 14:51:48 <Stablean> <Gashernite> in Locomotion you could do that (i think I rememeber that) 14:51:49 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> As in simply build a giganic bridge from one way tte other side? 14:51:55 <Stablean> <Anson> unmorrer: true ... that is annoying, but also makes a nice challenge 14:52:01 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> yea 14:52:05 <Stablean> <V453000> sure, or even better example with tunnels 14:52:15 <Stablean> <Anson> but it would be nice to build diagonal bridges or tunnels :-) 14:52:15 <Stablean> <V453000> if tunnel could have signals, it would be the most effective way to build 14:52:25 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> :D 14:52:35 <Stablean> <Gashernite> would turn the world into swiss cheese :P 14:52:37 <Stablean> <V453000> diagonal things would be nice but those probably wont ever happen 14:52:37 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> it would be nice 14:52:43 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> True. If you could use tunnels in the same way you can lay normal traack... noone would bother with regular track 14:52:54 <Stablean> <Gashernite> we had diagonal road crossings at one stage 14:53:04 <Stablean> <V453000> not in openttd 14:53:08 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah we did... 14:53:18 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Also, Yachiyo, STOP SHRINKING! You have lost 600 inhabitants in the last year! 14:53:20 <Stablean> <V453000> perhaps in ttdpatch or some custom version 14:53:23 <Stablean> <V453000> but not in official openttd 14:53:34 <Stablean> <Gashernite> like pre 0.7 or something 14:53:46 <Stablean> <Gashernite> maybe even earlier 14:53:52 <Stablean> <V453000> definitel not in official trunk 14:54:11 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It would make highways with proper in and outlets look better 14:54:35 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I still don't know why we don't have them... doesn't really make sense 14:54:39 <Stablean> <V453000> perhaps, but equally boring in compare to trains :P trains have so much more things to think about (mostly curves, bridges, and signals) 14:55:03 <Stablean> <V453000> well I assume it would be quite a complication with pathfinding for road vehicles 14:55:33 <Stablean> <Gashernite> the roads still went straight O.o rails just went diagonal 14:55:51 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> The main thing with RV's? 14:55:55 <Stablean> <V453000> yes I saw something like that, probably in ttdpatch 14:56:05 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I dont see how they can make sustainable profit either 14:56:23 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I never really played TTDpatch 14:57:42 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer has left the game (leaving) 14:59:14 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (general timeout) 14:59:14 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (connection lost) 15:01:26 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 joined the game 15:01:28 <Stablean> <Anson> a subway would be nice ... simple extension to tunnels: tunnels still would go straight like they do now, but you can place a station on the ground, above a tunnel, and that would create kind of an "automatic station" at that spot in the tunnel below (but invisible) 15:01:48 <Stablean> <Anson> and by simple, i don't mean simple to program :-) 15:02:46 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yey Yachiyo is growing again! THat means that those supplies will be dropped soon...-isch 15:05:04 <Stablean> <Gashernite> could be all those roads I built :p 15:05:15 <Stablean> <Anson> when do we get the next chameleon ? the first was in 1961, and now we have 1974 15:05:46 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I just want that baby to grow. Big and strong... and a point to drop off my goods xD 15:05:59 <V453000> nuts.openttdcoop.org/wiki :) 15:06:00 <Stablean> <Gashernite> haha 15:07:20 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Also, Hooray for timetables! 15:09:55 <Stablean> <Anson> i can't see any years in that table ... looks like it has only 10 dpi :-( 15:10:45 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 15:11:49 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #15 15:13:25 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 15:13:29 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 15:14:37 <Stablean> <Gashernite> so if I change all my tracks to purr tracks... what does that do? O.o 15:14:55 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Make em purr like a kitten? 15:15:01 <Stablean> <Gashernite> O.o 15:15:29 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Sorry I honestly do not have a clue 15:17:04 <Stablean> <Gashernite> what colour should I use? 15:17:06 <Stablean> <Anson> purr are colored universal tracks 15:17:12 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I'm thinking blue? 15:17:39 <Stablean> <Anson> trains from every rail type can use them, even though restrictions still apply concerning wagons and the required engines for them 15:17:41 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> What is the purpose of universal tracks? Why not keep your monorail maglev etc seperated? 15:18:05 <TWerkhoven> train replacement between railtypes 15:18:10 <Stablean> <Gashernite> done... 15:18:24 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Wow those look different 15:18:30 <Stablean> <Gashernite> DO MUCH BLUE!!!! 15:18:36 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> purrritty funny 15:18:36 <Stablean> <Gashernite> so* 15:18:59 <Stablean> <Anson> originally, universal trains were invented to be able to replace trains without deleting all of them, creating new trains, and giving all orders again 15:19:17 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Aah I see 15:19:39 <Stablean> <Anson> with the current universal rails, you even can drive with magle, mono, rail, and also wet, on the SAME track 15:19:54 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> What exactly is wet? 15:20:41 <Stablean> <Anson> another rail type ... did you ever want to give orders to ships, and not have the problems with them doing badly at pathfinding ? 15:21:08 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> So a railtype that goes over water? 15:21:14 <Stablean> <Anson> try it ... i almost WET my pants when i first saw them ;:-) 15:21:40 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ghehe, alright. Let's see 15:22:02 <Stablean> <Anson> not open sea, but more like canals 15:22:08 <Stablean> <Gashernite> it's like... massive barges and canals... but better 15:22:14 <Stablean> <Anson> and concerning game mechanics, they are real trains 15:22:40 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> So where do I build them on? Rivers or Canals? 15:22:54 <Stablean> <Anson> it is a RAIL type 15:23:01 <Stablean> <Gashernite> on land... like tracks 15:23:07 <Stablean> <Anson> build on land 15:23:42 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Aaah like that. Yea that makes more sense.... dunno why I did not bother trying that to begin with 15:23:48 <Stablean> <Anson> they are slow, but still 80 kph, and have nice big wagons 15:24:43 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I want new wagons... :/ 15:25:13 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> bwaaaa... Buehe... 15:25:23 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> that is silly 15:26:34 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ghehehe those Wet Rails are funny 15:28:52 <Stablean> <Gashernite> so is switching over to monorail in the 70's viable? 15:29:18 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Hmm you know, for something Chaos Style built without plans and in a reatively short time... I am pleased with what has appeared in front of me 15:30:05 <Stablean> <Anson> i am just testing the chameloan trains which drive on monorail tracks 15:30:35 <Stablean> <Anson> look at my goods trains at Tsukuba stations :-) 15:31:29 <Stablean> <Gashernite> speaking of which, we should have access to the 2nd monorail trail... 15:31:31 <Stablean> <Gashernite> train* 15:31:41 <Stablean> <Anson> low capacity, but no CL and 241 kph 15:32:31 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (general timeout) 15:32:31 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (connection lost) 15:34:00 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 joined the game 15:34:09 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Back again 15:36:44 <Stablean> <Anson> i think i might need a new station design for those trains now 15:37:38 <Stablean> *** Gashernite has left the game (leaving) 15:38:13 <Stablean> *** Gashernite joined the game 15:46:57 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Anyone know of another way to improve your standing with a local town? 15:47:03 <Stablean> <Gashernite> trees :) 15:47:09 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It is full of trees already 15:47:15 <Stablean> <Gashernite> delete them :p 15:47:35 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> But that will lower my rating more than it will go up 15:47:45 <Stablean> <Gashernite> nah, it doesn't 15:47:57 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> thanks, again 15:48:03 <Stablean> <Gashernite> np 15:49:41 <Stablean> <Anson> deleting trees costs more reputation than growing trees, but there is a cap for negative reputation, and thus you should kill all trees first to get to that cap, and then grow new trees 15:50:09 <Stablean> <Anson> if the option is enabled, you also can try to bribe the town, but that can go terribly wron a lot of times :-) 15:50:15 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It does not seem to want to improve anymore by planting trees. It is forever stuck at appaling 15:53:29 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 15:53:29 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 15:55:11 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (general timeout) 15:55:11 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (connection lost) 15:56:55 <Stablean> <Gashernite> that's cool 15:57:13 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 joined the game 15:57:33 <Stablean> <Gashernite> well the math works 15:57:48 <Stablean> <Anson> @@(clcalc 241) 15:57:49 <Webster> Stablean: (clcalc <railtype> [<tilt>] <cl|km/h>) -- For a number <30 this calculates the speed for <cl> on <railtype>. For any other numbers, this calculates the CL required for <railtype> travelling at <km/h>, assuming TL is small enough. [<tilt>] will apply tilt bonuses to the calculation. 15:58:19 <Stablean> <Anson> @@(clcalc mono 241) 15:58:20 <Webster> Stablean: Required CL for monorail at 241km/h is 3 (5 half tiles) or TL 15:59:04 <Stablean> <Anson> those are the trains that i am using now ... but capacity is only 14 :-) 15:59:12 <Stablean> <Gashernite> ahh 15:59:58 <Stablean> <Anson> but it works ... all trains make profit, and they deliver 400+ goods each month 16:00:32 <Stablean> <Anson> maybe even 600+ ... but i need bigger stations, at least 7 platforms, since they take a while to load :-( 16:01:23 <Stablean> <Anson> 7 or 8 ticks to load 14 cargo :-( 16:01:37 <Stablean> <Gashernite> ouch 16:01:59 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I want waypoints back :( 16:02:18 <Stablean> <Anson> why ? 16:02:28 <Stablean> <Anson> and what do you mean with "back" ? 16:02:43 <Stablean> <Gashernite> so I can tell trains to only use certain platforms at stations 16:02:46 <Stablean> <Gashernite> 16:03:01 <Stablean> <Gashernite> maybe it was from TTDpatch :/ 16:03:07 <Stablean> <Anson> 8th icon in the rail menu is for waypoints 16:03:11 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I will be off for a while. Going for dinner 16:03:25 <Stablean> <Gashernite> oh, lol 16:03:27 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Thank you smile for letting me use your company =) 16:03:33 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (leaving) 16:04:09 <Stablean> <Anson> but in general, WP are not needed if you have a good design for the station and the network 16:04:14 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 16:04:43 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 16:04:43 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 16:05:23 <Stablean> <Anson> rather than using WP, separate stations for drop and pick, or for grain and meat, are better 16:05:59 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 16:06:52 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 16:09:08 <Stablean> <Gashernite> using waypoints gives me flexibility to change how many platforms each type of train gets 16:19:49 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer joined the game 16:32:18 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:36:08 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 16:39:19 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer has left the game (leaving) 16:41:34 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 joined the game 16:41:49 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Hello 16:48:40 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (general timeout) 16:48:40 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 16:51:54 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 16:52:46 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi all 16:54:13 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #15 16:59:15 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 16:59:47 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 16:59:47 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 17:00:19 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 17:00:51 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 17:00:51 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 17:10:13 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 17:16:04 <Stablean> *** Muel joined the game 17:16:15 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 17:16:17 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> hi 17:19:28 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi muel 17:20:38 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 17:25:51 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Is Anson Online? 17:28:57 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> That should allow you to get those signals back 17:30:27 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Is that enough to finish the new station layout? 17:30:27 <Stablean> <Gashernite> do those little ones carry like 1 grain each? 17:30:53 <Stablean> *** smile has left the game (leaving) 17:33:21 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> They carry 14 tons each, those little things 17:33:29 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I was joking :p 17:33:40 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 17:34:43 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Hello all! 17:34:55 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> heey hey 17:35:31 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 17:39:47 <Stablean> <Anson> ring, i am about to change all trains ... 17:40:05 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ah sorry 17:40:07 <Stablean> <Anson> but that isn't easy without stopping all trains 17:40:13 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yeah I can imagine 17:40:21 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Especially with this amount of em 17:41:26 <Stablean> <Anson> 71k$ for each train, plus at least twice the number of trains because of smaller wagons, plus all the rails 17:41:52 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yikes that is a lot... 17:41:58 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I will help you out a bit 17:42:08 <Stablean> <Anson> that happes when you don't build a gigantic border to border moneymaker line :-) 17:42:14 <Stablean> <Anson> thanks 17:42:20 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> No problem 17:42:58 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (leaving) 17:43:54 <Stablean> <Anson> btw: splitting a station in two halves, for TL1 and TL2 is almost automatic : the pathfinder always prefers platforms which match in length 17:44:44 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yeah but I mean the tracks. Because there were a couple of times that the longer trais blocked small ones when waiting for their platform to free up 17:45:55 <Stablean> <Anson> yes, but only temporary ... rebuilding rom 4 vertical 2TL platforms to 8+ horizontal 17:46:25 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well a temp solution is still a solution right? 17:46:33 <Stablean> *** ebanu joined the game 17:46:49 <Stablean> <Anson> one more train to replace 17:47:03 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I have by no means any experience with this game compared to most others, but on singleplayer I always make a temp if simply working on the ML is too much of a hassle due to traffic 17:48:27 <Stablean> <Anson> on singleplayer, i always pause the game to do big rebuilds :-) 17:48:37 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah, same :P 17:48:47 <Stablean> <r1kkie> The fuck 17:48:54 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> ghehe I try to avoid using that 17:49:30 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I think that's a bit too many... 17:49:36 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Because pausing the game feels a bit like cheating when building to me 17:56:01 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer joined the game 17:58:39 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 17:58:44 <Stablean> <V453000> moo 17:58:48 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Moo 17:58:58 <Stablean> <Gashernite> BaAaAaAaA.... 17:58:58 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> hi 17:59:44 <Stablean> <Gashernite> WTB: unserviced Iron ore mine 18:01:23 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (general timeout) 18:01:23 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 18:01:41 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, i think the drop works now, with 5 terminus platforms and 3 roro :-) 18:01:50 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 18:02:07 <Stablean> <Anson> option to convert all to roro when TF is possible later 18:02:07 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Sweet, I will have a look in a moment 18:02:21 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> ui can build 4 roRo now :) 18:02:23 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Firt I want to service this bank ^^ 18:03:41 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> 10 RoRo :D 18:03:48 <Stablean> <Anson> lol ... thanks 18:03:51 <Stablean> <Gashernite> maybe do a bypass for the grey line? 18:03:53 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> mate 18:03:55 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> uhhmm 18:03:58 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> some trainms 18:04:01 <Stablean> <Gashernite> got a bit of congestion going on 18:04:07 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> nvm you willsee I think 18:04:17 <Stablean> <V453000> omfg zebra rails :D 18:04:20 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Wtf Anson? :) 18:04:22 <Stablean> <Gashernite> ew... they're diesel... 18:08:33 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> The ways I am building right no are creative.... Not the most effective and clean, but they work for the amount of traffic served 18:08:36 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> ...I think 18:08:58 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I kinda like these little guys... they're cute 18:09:28 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I agree :D 18:09:32 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> just like Rvs 18:09:47 <Stablean> <Gashernite> reminds me of an automated factory or something 18:10:25 <Stablean> <r1kkie> I really like this refiting thing. 18:11:27 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> wow 18:11:37 <Stablean> <Gashernite> whats with the red though? 18:11:37 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> Highest production primary is here :P 18:12:40 <Stablean> <V453000> I love how different companies use different colour of tracks 18:12:45 <Stablean> <V453000> makes it very well visible who is what 18:12:51 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I love thse purr tracks :D 18:12:58 <Stablean> <Gashernite> except when 1 company uses all the colours :p 18:13:04 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 18:13:19 <Stablean> <V453000> there will probably be a function to use 16 colours 18:13:25 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Woops tat was a big mess up... 18:13:39 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> not 15? 18:13:49 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> same as company colours 18:13:51 <Stablean> <V453000> there are 16 comany colours 18:13:53 <Stablean> <V453000> 15 companies 18:13:57 <Stablean> <V453000> so that you could always change your colour 18:14:13 <Stablean> <V453000> also 16 track types is for some reason maximum 18:14:23 <Stablean> <Gashernite> and it's always cream that is left out :P 18:14:33 <Stablean> <V453000> duh :) 18:14:44 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Pink is awesome 18:14:51 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It is super manly. Nothing can beat it 18:14:54 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> best company colour :P 18:14:56 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I prefer orange but... meh 18:14:58 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Except purple 18:16:01 <Stablean> <Gashernite> question, does prospecting definitely get a new industry? 18:17:04 <Stablean> <Anson> prospecting should be almost(!) sure, but you never know where 18:17:14 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> depends on map size 18:17:41 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I could hardly ever get any new industries by prospecting on a 64×64 map :P 18:18:03 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Isnt 64x64 extremely small? 18:18:17 <Stablean> <Gashernite> nah... it's huge O.o 18:18:23 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> not for me.. 18:18:25 <Stablean> <Anson> all indistries have some restrictions where they can be ... like height, snow, desert, near towns, far from towns, etc etc etc 18:19:01 <Stablean> <Gashernite> okay... the next iron ore mine that pops up... it's mine! 18:19:12 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I might be nuts playing on a 1000x1000 map on singleplayer sometimes... 18:19:14 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Depends if its colse to mine. :P 18:19:18 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Let's just say I want variety 18:19:20 <Stablean> <Anson> i think that prospecting will try to find a place to build, but if there is no such place found during some reasonable time .... :-( 18:20:14 <Stablean> <Anson> if you like those long distance networks, you can play on 64 x 2048 :-) 18:20:20 <Stablean> <Gashernite> seriously? 18:20:31 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well yeah why not 18:20:37 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I have tried it many times :P 18:20:41 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I meant about the new mine... 18:20:43 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I never have played asymatrical maps yet. I really should 18:20:53 <Stablean> <Anson> i did it to test the vac train grf :-) 18:21:03 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> connect the 2 farthest cities 18:21:21 <Stablean> <Gashernite> they should make maps that go like 32x4k 18:21:32 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> That would be kinda redundant I think :P 18:21:42 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> vactrain set is epic - 4000kph I cant see the trains 18:21:48 <Stablean> <Gashernite> not as redundant as 16x8k 18:21:52 <Stablean> <Anson> 16 x 8k ? 8 x 16k ? 4 x 32k ? 2 x 64k ? 18:22:06 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> 1×128k :P 18:22:08 <Stablean> <Gashernite> sure... why not? 18:22:11 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> and 18:22:17 <Stablean> <Gashernite> welcome to 1d land... 18:22:20 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> towns will be too close to the dge of map 18:22:22 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Anson good thing you said something... Almost forgot to check out your new stations ^^ 18:22:42 <Stablean> <Gashernite> hey... I was born 2 months ago 18:22:56 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> :D 18:22:58 <Stablean> <V453000> maps above 512x512 are quite pointless for 1 company 18:23:16 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I manage to cover them... after a millenia 18:23:18 <Stablean> <V453000> unless you intend to demolish your cpu :D 18:23:21 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ghehe dont we all 18:23:52 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well my comp at home has a i3790K, so I think I should be able to handle quite a ginormous map 18:24:03 <Stablean> <Gashernite> nice... 18:24:21 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I'm just running a 4th gen i5... it's nice :) 18:26:31 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It looks cute 18:26:43 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Like a lot of mini robots running around 18:26:57 <Stablean> <Gashernite> WALL-E!!! 18:27:16 <Stablean> <V453000> point is having 5000 trains on more than 512x512 isnt too hard 18:27:30 <Stablean> <V453000> soo what do you do when you get that :D 18:27:45 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> you.... 18:27:59 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> you start incorperating other kinds of vehicles as well? 18:28:06 <Stablean> <V453000> what for 18:28:24 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well lets say you have multiple of these kinda 'factories' 18:28:47 <Stablean> <Anson> i recently tried ottd on my phone, and 256x256 with 20 trains worked well ... have to see bigger maps and more trains when i know how to simulate mouse and keyboard :-) 18:28:57 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> carrying passagers of valueables or mail to a couple of Intercont. Aiports 18:29:27 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> openttd is bad on phones with small display screens/touchscreens 18:29:30 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> best on tablets :) 18:29:48 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Like for those 4 corner maps? 4 main islands seperated by water 18:29:50 <Stablean> <V453000> call me oldschool, but fucking mouse+keyboard is unmatched :> 18:29:53 <Stablean> <Anson> my phone has a HD screen ... only the text is a bit small :-) 18:29:53 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah, gunna say... I woudln't want to play on my iPhone 18:30:15 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Every island supplies a different one and not a single complete transport route is allowed on your island? 18:30:39 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> PC all the way. Nothing can beat it with that epic mouse keyboard combo ;D 18:30:45 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> yees 18:30:47 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> xD 18:30:54 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> mouse+ctrl key XD 18:30:57 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> +delete 18:31:00 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> hahaha 18:31:02 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> unbeatable 18:31:16 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Hotkeys, best invention in gaming history ever 18:31:26 <Stablean> <Anson> which two physical keys are most important ? CTRL and ... ? 18:31:33 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> delete for me 18:31:39 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> ctrl+del 18:31:42 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> oe 18:31:48 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> or u can try alt+f4 18:31:50 <Stablean> <Gashernite> or enter? 18:31:56 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> soo important xD 18:31:56 <Stablean> <r1kkie> win+e 18:32:00 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I dont use Delete as much, if anything it would be R due to the precise removal tool shortcut 18:32:22 <Stablean> <V453000> all of the hotkeys are quite useful 18:32:37 <Stablean> <V453000> not to mention that openttd has quite damn solid default hotkey layout 18:32:40 <Stablean> <Anson> what about A, to make tracks ? 18:32:43 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> true, 18:32:58 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> its quite a dilemma 18:33:12 <Stablean> <V453000> no its not a dilemma it is a clear thing to me :D 18:33:27 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> ghehe 18:33:33 <Stablean> <V453000> :> 18:33:56 <Stablean> <Anson> i don't like the default hotkeys ... same functions should always be on the same keys, and not on 1 2 3 for roads, on 1 2 3 4 5 for rails, with road 3 = rail 5 18:34:30 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Im using "A" for Autorail 18:34:30 <Stablean> <Anson> if there are no diagonals for roads, just skip those hotkeys 18:34:32 <Stablean> <V453000> as simple as it could be, sorted as in the menu :) 18:34:51 <Stablean> <V453000> you only need 3 for roads anyway 18:35:14 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Also, for those interested in my extremely newbisch and sort of compact hub... I think it is done 18:35:25 <Stablean> <Anson> and what is the hotkey to select road, rail, erail, monorail, etc ? 18:35:31 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Read as: More trains and overloading it is no longer a question but a certainty 18:35:33 <Stablean> <V453000> ringgeest11: terrible, never try again 18:35:44 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I know it is terrible 18:35:46 <Stablean> <V453000> uhmmm ... now I should go look at it 18:35:48 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Make a sign ringgeest11 18:35:55 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It has a sign 18:36:01 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Poor man's Hub 18:36:01 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> poorman's hub/ring 18:36:04 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Ah ok 18:36:14 <Stablean> <V453000> well yeah thats rather random :) 18:36:22 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It is yes... 18:36:25 <Stablean> <V453000> but if it suffices ... 18:36:40 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It is a chaos design, everything built when needed and sometimes a little... well, off 18:36:43 <Stablean> <V453000> add trains, they will show you what to improve :P 18:36:58 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> ghehe I know what to improve... right about everything :P 18:37:00 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Prob the 90 degres coners 18:37:20 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yeah, though making good Cl's with these hills is tough 18:37:26 <Stablean> <V453000> corners dont need to be a problem, especially with some nuts trains which ignore slowdowns in curves 18:37:33 <Stablean> <Anson> what about separating drop and pickup ? 18:37:39 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Don't quite have the hang of that. Though for all the track I try to keep it as level as possible 18:37:54 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Tama won't allow more stations 18:38:04 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> so That is why there are only 3 :\ 18:38:10 <Stablean> <Anson> that is only temporary 18:38:24 <Stablean> <r1kkie> With realistic (whater its called) hills arent that bad as long as ju add enought power. 18:38:38 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> can someone send me 20M eur? please :D reason:Ishinomaki banned my rails from the town because it made too much noise 18:38:44 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Like adding an extra train. 18:38:48 <Stablean> <Anson> unused stations decrease the rating, used stations increase the rating ... if you wait long enough 18:39:02 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> True 18:39:12 <Stablean> <V453000> OR you show the bitches who is boss and enable magic dozer 18:39:15 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> But the problem is more the cornering 18:39:19 <Stablean> <V453000> but guess that isnt the best option for stable games :D 18:39:26 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> XD 18:39:32 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> As in you can only go sofar building on slopes before you need to change directions in order to climb 18:39:50 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I would instantly destroy my opponents' industries :P 18:39:57 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> How kind :P 18:40:01 <Stablean> <Gashernite> same >.< 18:40:03 <Stablean> <V453000> you will get used to the curves sooner or later, just focus on signals etc 18:40:09 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> :D 18:40:11 <Stablean> <V453000> you can always use trains which ignore curves 18:40:13 <Stablean> <Gashernite> or just delete their stations? 18:40:35 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> stations? I would delete all the banks 18:40:42 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> There are trains that ignore curves...? 18:40:52 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Yes some do 18:40:54 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> and a lot of towns would disappear if magic dozer would be enabled here xD 18:41:00 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> HA! Joke's on you! I rarely transport valuables :P 18:41:02 <Stablean> <Gashernite> oh yeah... 18:41:05 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> in NUTS there are some 18:41:29 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I see. Sorry for the ignorance, today is my first day actually using NUTS train set... 18:41:59 <Stablean> <V453000> first day of the rest of your life 18:42:01 <Stablean> <Anson> look for the animal train later ... it needs maglev tracks and NEVER slows in curves 18:42:03 <Stablean> <V453000> everything changes now! 18:42:14 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> :D 18:42:24 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah, I heard the 90's were good 18:42:31 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Maglavs always ignors curves right? Or is that only the standard trains? 18:42:37 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Today is a good day to start learning even more until my head burst in a gigantic fiery explosion of knowedge! 18:42:39 <Stablean> <V453000> you can read about usage of hte trains at nuts.openttdcoop.org 18:42:50 <Stablean> <Anson> in case you didn't yet read the nuts readme ... V is nuts :-) 18:42:51 <Stablean> <V453000> including curves, speeds, ... 18:43:05 <Stablean> <V453000> duh I iz normal 18:43:08 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I'll give it a look 18:43:15 <Stablean> <Anson> or rather v *IS* nuts :-) 18:43:37 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> He ain't nuts, he's special :P 18:44:03 <Stablean> <Gashernite> @UnMorrer, no Idea how you get such big jumps in operatin profit... 18:44:09 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> poor Ishinomaki :( 18:44:21 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> just look at ishinomaki :DDD 18:44:39 <Stablean> <Gashernite> what about it? 18:44:42 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> you will see Im sure 18:44:49 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> the new bridges 18:44:56 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> +terraforming 18:45:02 <Stablean> <Gashernite> ahh... 18:45:04 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> costed ~60M eur so far 18:45:07 <Stablean> <Gashernite> :O 18:45:13 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> That is a lot... 18:45:21 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> and there will be still 30 M that will be needed 18:45:27 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> however 18:45:57 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> if I finish the towns' inhibitants will be happy- no more trains horn sounds! xD 18:45:59 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Those woods produce over 1100 tons a year o.O 18:46:01 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> ty 18:46:08 <Stablean> <Gashernite> np :) 18:46:22 <Stablean> <Gashernite> that was 1/3 of my companies value :P 18:46:28 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> :PO 18:46:44 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer has left the game (general timeout) 18:46:44 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer has left the game (connection lost) 18:46:50 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I'd have laughed (or cired) if I put it in the wrong spot 18:46:56 <Stablean> <Gashernite> cried* 18:47:06 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer joined the game 18:47:11 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has left the game (connection lost) 18:47:31 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I have got the highest operaring profit? LOL 18:47:39 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> lol 18:47:53 <Stablean> <Gashernite> only because of that crazy forest! 18:47:59 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> mb goods 18:48:14 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> btw 18:48:20 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> man when I started 18:48:27 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> the forest's production was 150 tonnes 18:48:41 <Stablean> <r1kkie> My first mine started at 63 tons now its at 50. :) In 56 years lol 18:48:51 <Stablean> <V453000> :D 18:48:51 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> Xd statues are OP 18:49:01 <Stablean> <r1kkie> And it has a statue 18:49:08 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well the first town I went to to supply with goods dropped from 1200 inhabitants to 600... in 3 years 18:49:15 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> xD 18:49:21 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> so unlucky... 18:49:21 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Then it got up again when I started passager transport 18:49:35 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Who cares as long as it still accept goods. :D 18:49:46 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> That sounds like the reincarnation of bad luck 18:49:56 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I cared xD Because they didnt accept the damn goods anymore XD 18:50:06 <Stablean> <r1kkie> :D 18:50:18 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Like in your face bitch! :P 18:50:25 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 18:50:29 <Stablean> <r1kkie> We are moving out. 18:50:43 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Also I have spent about 7 million on construction in the last couple of years... I think I should slow down a little to allow it to build up again and plan ahead a little more xd 18:51:25 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Money isnt an issue when you hace a decent railroad and a couple of trains. 18:51:33 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> true 18:51:43 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I've almost made back what I spen on that terraforming 18:51:49 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> yes you're right 18:51:51 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> In SP I use planes to give myself an nearly infinite amoujnt of money 18:52:02 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I dont use planes 18:52:08 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> cause i like challenges 18:52:14 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I had a few games where I earn almost 1bil a quater 18:52:20 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> ghhehe.... 18:52:22 <Stablean> <Anson> at Nishitōkyō, why does an eighth train wait at the pbs instead of using the last waiting bay ? 18:52:25 <Stablean> <Gashernite> (no inflation either) 18:52:35 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Planes just crash at random. 18:52:57 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah, they're stupid 18:52:59 <Stablean> <Anson> yoi can set plane crashes OFF 18:53:01 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I always played with inflation on, so at 2060 I would make 15mln a year 18:53:09 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Where is the fun in that? :) 18:53:12 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> with just a couple of airports and a tiny bit of feeding 18:53:30 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Thats cheating. :D 18:53:33 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> niiice 18:53:35 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> 1 18:53:39 <Stablean> <Gashernite> do it with ships... 18:53:41 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> was the bridges are done :) 18:53:43 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Feeding airports? 18:53:49 <Stablean> <Anson> i don't cheat with planes ... i honestly cheat 20 mil with the cheat :-) 18:53:49 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> way* 18:53:52 <Stablean> <Gashernite> nice 18:53:54 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ghehehe 18:53:55 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> :D 18:54:09 <Stablean> <Gashernite> finish the other lane... 18:54:20 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> on it 18:54:28 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> 5 M a bridge :D 18:54:49 <Stablean> <Gashernite> well I'd tell you to get over it... but you need a bridge :p 18:54:56 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> lol 18:54:58 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> :D 18:55:20 <Stablean> <Anson> bridges are cheap ... what costs a lot is when you try putting them half on water tiles and thus clear the water 18:55:30 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yup 18:55:30 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah... it's crap 18:55:34 <Stablean> <Anson> usually a multiple of terraforming costs on this server 18:55:40 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I put both of their ends on the water :P 18:55:46 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I had a 3 tile bridge including heads... 2.5mil 18:55:54 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> wow 18:56:06 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Last map I build 6 bridges 2billon each lol. :P 18:56:08 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> and finally 18:56:14 <Stablean> <Gashernite> :O 18:56:16 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> it can handle the traffic :) 18:56:16 <Stablean> <Anson> you always can use SHIFT to check the price before you really build it 18:56:19 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I had to terraform a bit of land to get over someone else's line, cost me 2 million in total too... 18:56:41 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Anson: does that include terraforming to? 18:58:06 <Stablean> <Anson> in general, shift prices are exact, but sometimes, the TF costs are for flattening only an edge instead of a square, etc ... 18:58:51 <Stablean> <Gashernite> seriously, this game hates me... puts my new iron mines at either end of the map... 18:59:09 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Haha xD 18:59:35 <Stablean> <Anson> did someone look at my Nishitōkyō stations ? and has an idea why trains stop at the PBS ? 19:01:02 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> They dont seemto stop 19:01:08 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> bridge opened finally lets celebrate! 19:01:22 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> They only seem to stop when the train on the top leaves and the other trains waits as it now wants to enter that one 19:01:32 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Hooray! Well done! 19:01:34 <Stablean> <Gashernite> now bomb Ishinomaki for the fun of it :D 19:01:56 <Stablean> <Anson> there are 4 platforms, and each has a waiting bay ... 7 trains enter the station and bay, and the eighth doesn't go to the empty waiting bay, but stops at the pbs 19:02:32 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Can you plac e a sign? 19:02:58 <Stablean> <Anson> !nishitokyo 19:04:08 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:04:08 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 19:05:27 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Odd... 19:06:14 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Dont know. As far as I know it should be able to queue up there just fine 19:06:25 <Stablean> <Anson> just removed the entrance to the first, and the fourth is used .... 19:06:56 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Now that is a special case of odd 19:07:28 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:07:28 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 19:08:02 <Stablean> <Anson> some penalty for three crossings on the path to the last waiting bay ? and that adds up too much so that trains prefer waiting for one of the first three instead of going to the fourth ? 19:08:28 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> that is an option 19:08:42 <Stablean> <Anson> where ? :-) 19:08:56 <Stablean> <Anson> i don't see it in the advanced options ... 19:09:22 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Oh no I meant it was an option as in it can be a cause 19:09:32 <Stablean> *** sekper(lol--lol) joined the game 19:10:04 <Stablean> *** sekper(lol--lol) has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:10:04 <Stablean> *** sekper(lol--lol) has left the game (connection lost) 19:10:04 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Also, anyone a clue how profitable a cross-map Passenger express would be? 19:10:18 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> ringgest 19:10:28 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Like really cross map, from one edge in the south-west to the north-east 19:10:30 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yes? 19:10:40 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> my train 100-110 19:10:46 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> all of them doing this 19:10:52 <Stablean> <r1kkie> My suggesten is to lay down on profit and try to make a funny train network that works. 19:11:02 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Will have a look 19:11:13 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> And First I need some money and afterwards I can build funny things ;D 19:11:39 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Also I consider my Poor Man's hub quite amusing in it being strangely effective for what traffic it has to handle ^^ 19:11:45 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> Is that enough? :D 19:11:56 <Stablean> <r1kkie> lol 19:12:06 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> or 19:12:12 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> That is indeed quite a bit of profit o.O 19:12:14 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I can send more if you wish... 19:12:28 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> i eearn twice of this a year 19:12:40 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> No! No it's fine 19:13:02 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I kinda wanna try to see whether I can build a little more advanced hubs myself 19:13:04 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Ur makin about the same in 1 month that I do year. :P 19:13:15 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Since I usually just ues planes and trains to feed them ^^ 19:13:37 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Esiest is jut long train routes. 19:13:49 <Stablean> <Gashernite> holy crap... 19:14:03 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> without any coal transported 19:14:05 <Stablean> <r1kkie> If youd like a one transfer station with feeder transfering to. 19:14:07 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> it is for amateurs :P 19:14:31 <Stablean> <r1kkie> UnMorrer: Long routes? 19:14:43 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> yes I like them 19:14:58 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> What is for amateurs? My Airport feeders? 19:15:00 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> lol 19:15:02 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:15:02 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 19:15:06 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Because yeah, they are :P 19:15:08 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> nope, coal as a cargo 19:15:10 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Haha 19:15:12 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> aah 19:15:14 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> btw 19:15:16 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> guys 19:15:27 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> the new birdges stiéll cant handle the traffic O.O 19:15:54 <Stablean> <Anson> ah, just seen: a station with 3 1TL platforms and 4 2TL platforms : 3 1TL trains enter the short platforms and no waiting trains enter the others ... all because of penalties 19:16:09 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> How bout you brag about that elsewhere ;P Just kidding. Make it a double bridge in both directions? 19:16:23 <Stablean> <Anson> station is Tsuruoka PIGS 19:16:25 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> :D 19:16:35 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> mb I will double the bridges 19:16:43 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> in peak hours its not enough 19:18:57 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> 350 k for a goods train-nice 19:19:04 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 19:19:18 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:19:43 <Stablean> <Gashernite> 480k for a steel train? 19:19:49 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> hmm not bad 19:20:07 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> as operating profit graph is not bad ,too 19:20:21 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> bridges done :P 19:20:23 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I'm 2nd at least 19:20:30 <Stablean> <Gashernite> ignore this quater :p 19:21:48 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ehm... I might need a bit more cash for terraforming a tiny bit of landscape 19:23:10 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:23:31 <Stablean> <Anson> V always says that money is not important ... this game i didn't make a long moneymaker and only survived my experiments with the help of some sponsors ... thanks again 19:23:45 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> np 19:24:00 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> I have 40M eur..again :P 19:24:14 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> haha, I might need a sponsor to construct this express line 19:24:20 <Stablean> <Anson> btw: how many tiles of track do you need per train ? (ignoring depots) 19:24:52 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:24:52 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 19:25:04 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> use dark green trains 19:25:10 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Thanks ^^ 19:25:12 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> and then it will be allright :PPP 19:25:22 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Why those trains? :P 19:25:30 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> cause I am your sponsor 19:25:36 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> problem? :D 19:25:50 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> haha, fair enough 19:26:10 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Refitting them withthose colours you mean? Just remind me of doing that ^^ 19:26:17 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> yes 19:27:49 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to slicey 19:28:01 <Stablean> <slicey> so i wake up and i cant join my company -.- 19:28:04 <Stablean> <Gashernite> hey slicey 19:28:10 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> hy man 19:28:12 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Hey 19:28:18 <Stablean> <slicey> hiya 19:29:38 <Stablean> <slicey> well thats great cant join my comapny 19:29:44 <Stablean> <slicey> .... 19:32:34 <Stablean> *** slicey has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 19:33:25 <Stablean> <slicey> well i gtg if not ill be on next wap :P 19:33:27 <Stablean> <slicey> map 19:34:10 <Stablean> *** slicey has joined company #1 19:34:14 <Stablean> <slicey> nice :P 19:35:25 <Stablean> *** slicey has left the game (connection lost) 19:39:51 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 19:41:31 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 19:43:34 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 19:46:17 <Stablean> <Anson> i think my network is at max capacity now ... one train for every 17 rails (including crossings etc where you have up to 6 rails per tile) 19:46:51 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Time to build more rails then to have more trains. :D 19:47:07 <Stablean> <Gashernite> you're nuts! 19:47:21 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Capitalism Ho! 19:47:35 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Now you should do that on a network cross map. :D 19:47:45 <Stablean> <Gashernite> >.< 19:47:52 <Stablean> <Gashernite> Can anyone say LAG? 19:47:58 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Im workng on that! Well an express line not really a network 19:48:14 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> Im working on epic WETrails xD 19:48:24 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> tunnel+ship looks weird xD 19:48:38 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Ops. :D 19:49:51 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:49:51 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 19:50:22 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 19:50:25 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Tuuubes! Tubular bridges! Right on time 19:50:27 <Stablean> <Gashernite> oops :p 19:51:41 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> :D 19:52:27 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> ships on purr rails? :D 19:53:11 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Aaaand im out of money... I cant even lay a decent amount of tracks anymore 19:53:27 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 19:54:14 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> aand 19:54:17 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> gone 19:54:26 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> ship(train) 131 :DD 19:54:36 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> 990 tonnes of iron ore :D 19:54:44 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Nice 19:54:46 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Give me. 19:55:05 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> And here I am drowning in debt 19:55:15 <Stablean> <r1kkie> My first iron ore is at 54 with 50 years woring. :D 19:55:15 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> This cross country is going to take a LOT of time 19:55:22 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> xD 19:55:33 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> and now 19:55:39 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> horught the valley 19:55:46 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> through 19:56:36 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:56:36 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 19:57:06 <Stablean> <UnMorrer> cya good night 19:57:12 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Good night 19:57:18 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Night! 19:58:11 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 19:58:42 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:58:42 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 19:59:23 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined company #3 20:00:24 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 20:00:47 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> To whoever thought of bridge levels being on the same level 20:00:53 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Damn you... Damn 20:01:19 <Stablean> <Anson> just be glad that they can be plus or minus one level 20:01:31 <Stablean> <Anson> and that they can be higher than 1 level above ground 20:02:06 <Stablean> <Anson> the original TT had those stricter restrictions 20:02:28 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Aaaand im glad :P 20:04:22 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer has left the game (general timeout) 20:04:23 <Stablean> *** UnMorrer has left the game (connection lost) 20:05:01 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Weeeeell carps... 20:05:15 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Project cost untill now: well over 50 million 20:05:25 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Still have about 5/6 of the route to go.... 20:05:39 <Stablean> <Gashernite> where is it? 20:06:09 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Made a sign called: Current position 20:06:52 <Stablean> <Gashernite> good luck :P 20:07:03 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Thanks 20:07:14 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I dont think it is physically possible to finish it today xD 20:07:28 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Not even close to possible without the money 20:07:54 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Also, no signals yet, no balancers, no nothing 20:08:14 <Stablean> <Gashernite> you're smile transport? 20:08:20 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yup 20:08:31 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It is the only Open one without a password 20:08:37 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> So I joined here 20:08:47 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> THanks! That should help me on my way 20:09:13 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> You sure you dont need all of that? 20:09:37 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I make16mil a year :P 20:09:55 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Even then it is about 4 years :P 20:09:58 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> That is a lot 20:10:32 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I have a few trains who pull almost 500k :D 20:10:40 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Nice 20:10:58 <Stablean> <Gashernite> but... I must away 20:11:12 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Aww, too bad 20:11:23 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well, it has been fun meeting you today! 20:11:43 <Stablean> <Gashernite> yeah, I'll be back on in about... 5-6 hours 20:11:57 <Stablean> <Gashernite> hopefully it's still the same map 20:12:03 <Stablean> <r1kkie> It will. 20:12:09 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> How often does it change? 20:12:15 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Last map ended in 2175 or something 20:12:31 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Takes about 3 days give or take 20:12:37 <Stablean> <Gashernite> look at the company value graph :P 20:12:51 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> haha, wow 20:12:59 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Nice dip. :D 20:13:13 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well, thanks for the help 20:13:16 <Stablean> <Gashernite> I want to see white give away all their money :P 20:13:18 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> And see you next time =D 20:13:20 <Stablean> <Gashernite> no worries 20:13:22 <Stablean> <Gashernite> will do 20:13:32 <Stablean> *** Gashernite has joined spectators 20:14:21 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Nice just build a train to a forest with 0 tones of wood production. ô_Ô 20:14:55 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> ghehe 20:15:14 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> That is almost as bad as me finishing the first linetoday and the dropoff station being closed 2 seconds after 20:15:21 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Yep 20:15:45 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:25:07 <Stablean> <r1kkie> What does "Vehicel has tilt" mean? 20:25:28 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It gets a 20% speed boost in turns 20:25:38 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Ah ty 20:25:44 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 20:25:44 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 20:27:33 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 20:27:33 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 20:27:38 *** Dom__ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:28:14 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 20:28:42 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 20:28:42 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 20:29:56 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 20:30:24 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 20:30:24 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 20:32:19 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 20:32:19 *** Dom__ is now known as Dom_ 20:39:28 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> A clowny face? :P 20:39:44 <Stablean> *** airba joined the game 20:39:52 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Nah guy with a partyhat. :D 20:40:02 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Wohoo parteh! 20:40:16 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I knew i was going to start a challenge for myself 20:40:22 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> BUt this is more than I expected xD 20:40:40 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Do you really need 4 way track? 20:41:02 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Plan ahead? =D 20:41:14 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I want goods and stuff to be delivered to those towns too 20:41:20 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Ok 20:42:07 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I want to do as little as possible terraforming 20:42:18 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Why? :D 20:42:25 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Mostly money issues and partially because it is very difficult that way to go cross country =D 20:42:32 <Stablean> <Diablo> pink, y not built outer track first to save $$$$ 20:42:34 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> The lake, the other tracks, the cities 20:42:56 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Because when i did that I ended up having very seperated tracks further down the line 20:42:58 <Stablean> <Anson> i do the same :-) 20:43:12 <Stablean> <Anson> and i am almost done with my track :-) 20:43:30 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Nah not this time, experimented some this time. More fun. Cash aint everything. :D 20:43:40 <Stablean> *** airba has left the game (leaving) 20:43:40 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Look for the signs: 'Here' & 'And here' 20:43:48 <Stablean> <Anson> only building a single track ... started with 400k$ and now am at 50k$ 20:44:08 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I have had 80 mln in total thrown to me... 50 is spent 20:46:24 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> That's a first on this route 20:46:30 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> One of my own stracks is in my way xD 20:48:06 <Stablean> <Diablo> trains almost there 20:54:36 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Hooray for freestyle I guess :P 20:55:09 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 20:55:43 <Stablean> *** ebanu has left the game (general timeout) 20:55:43 <Stablean> *** ebanu has left the game (connection lost) 20:55:43 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> What do you think of my little amateurisch handywork Devil? :P 20:55:49 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It works. Barely, but it works 20:56:07 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 20:56:07 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 20:56:45 <Stablean> <Big Meech> LOL 20:57:08 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 20:57:28 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> What is it Meech? 20:57:38 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 20:57:38 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 20:57:42 <Stablean> <Big Meech> awesomeness 20:59:33 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #4 21:00:01 <Stablean> <Big Meech> cameron, you can update to 540000 F train 21:00:17 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 21:00:55 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 21:01:15 <Stablean> <V453000> moo 21:01:18 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yoooooooooo 21:01:21 <Stablean> <V453000> no. 21:01:24 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Moo 21:01:27 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yes 21:01:37 <Stablean> <Big Meech> PURRRRRRRRRRRR 21:01:47 <Stablean> <V453000> asdf 21:02:09 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Hey V, my monstrosity is growig 21:02:13 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> And it is growing fast! 21:02:35 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 21:03:27 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I am happy to say I have passed the halfway point. I am also happy to announce that thus far I have only 1 Evil Turn in the entire construction 21:04:06 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well not really 1 Evil turn... It is more 1 Evil Cluster... 21:06:01 <Stablean> <r1kkie> No my forest is gone! :( 21:06:23 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Explain 'Gone' ... 21:06:28 <Stablean> *** valis joined the game 21:06:59 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Someone destroyed it and it is no more. :( 21:07:33 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Forest as in trees or as an industry? 21:07:40 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Industry haha :D 21:07:48 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> That is less fun :P 21:07:49 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 21:08:06 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Oh well nothing I can do. 21:08:06 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Can't you fund another one there? 21:08:48 <Stablean> <r1kkie> No, raw materials industries can you only prospect and it will appear anywhere on the map. :( 21:09:06 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> D= 21:09:16 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Othervise you could build massive stations with 20 raw materials next to it. =) 21:09:38 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Not if there is the one per town limit per resource 21:10:01 <Stablean> <r1kkie> True. 21:10:15 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Then we make some new town next to it. :D 21:10:24 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 21:12:11 <Stablean> *** valis has left the game (leaving) 21:12:28 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 21:13:08 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Keeping the express lane more or less level is quite interesting to do really 21:13:26 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Even though realistic acceleration is turned on, it still is fun to do it this way 21:13:35 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk joined the game 21:13:43 <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi 21:13:53 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Hi 21:13:55 <Stablean> <V453000> hy 21:14:05 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Yay maglav trains. :P 21:14:27 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk has joined company #6 21:15:39 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Hooray for maglev! 21:16:25 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Gonna get something to eat. Cya later 21:16:31 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Cya 21:16:54 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has joined spectators 21:17:16 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 21:17:16 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 21:22:07 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:24:37 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 21:28:02 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 21:31:27 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk has left the game (leaving) 21:37:39 <Stablean> <Anson> my route is done ... as doubletrack 21:37:53 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Nice 21:38:00 <Stablean> <Anson> now i need only to wait a bit until i can buy a ship :-) 21:38:06 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Can you provide a sign as where exactly? 21:38:17 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has joined company #9 21:38:21 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ships are extremely expensive in maintenance though on this map 21:38:32 <Stablean> <Anson> scroll the map to the bottonm and then to the top, to find both endpoints 21:38:34 <Stablean> <Cameron> \not those ships 21:38:46 <Stablean> <Anson> not ship, but SHI* 21:39:04 <Stablean> <Anson> it is a wet track 21:39:42 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Aaah I see 21:39:44 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Sweet 21:39:58 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Those bridges look funny :P 21:40:56 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Any trains running on the wet track yet? 21:41:11 <Stablean> <Anson> need to wait ... i spent all my money for the track 21:41:23 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ghehe I know that feeling 21:41:26 <Stablean> <Cameron> you want money? 21:41:32 <Stablean> <Anson> have enough now for an engine ... waiting for the wagons 21:41:38 <Stablean> <Cameron> lol 21:42:17 <Stablean> <Anson> giving orders now 21:44:00 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 21:44:20 <Stablean> <Anson> the train is loading .... 21:44:59 <Stablean> <Anson> already 5900 / 1296 pax loaded 21:45:15 <Stablean> <Anson> 500, not 5900 21:45:50 <Stablean> <Anson> and prepare for a big celebration when it arrives in 2 or 3 years :-) 21:45:57 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> hahaha XD 21:46:07 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Will the cargo be worth anything by that time? 21:46:21 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 21:47:03 <Stablean> <Anson> train for the opposite direction starts loading now 21:47:18 <Stablean> <Anson> yes, but no idea how much 21:47:50 <Stablean> <Anson> there should be a big penalty for late delivery, but there is also a cap on the penalty 21:48:36 <Stablean> <Anson> first train is almost done loading ... 99% on train 99 :-) 21:48:42 <Stablean> <Anson> GO ! 21:49:08 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 21:49:20 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It's.... It's done 21:49:22 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It is actually done 21:49:25 <Stablean> <Anson> just for statistics : departure in march 2004, with 1296 pax 21:49:35 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well just the rail, there is no signals or whatever yet 21:49:37 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> But it is done! 21:49:51 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Nice, that is a load of people 21:50:06 <Stablean> <Anson> let's se whether your train arrives before mine :-) 21:50:32 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I dont even have signals or trains yet XD 21:53:42 <Stablean> <Anson> my trains does only 80 kph ... you still have some time :-) 21:53:49 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ghehe 21:53:59 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well Pax wise you have triple the amount 21:54:05 <Stablean> *** Supdawg joined the game 21:54:09 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> My speed however is 475 orso km/h 21:54:29 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> For the cargo that is going on it, I might choose those Wet Trains and have them go on the outer line 21:54:36 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> With the express on the inner line 21:54:47 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Might need minor remodeling, but it should be possible 21:54:58 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Everything is possible :D 21:55:09 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Yay science! 21:55:47 <Stablean> <Anson> the second train has loaded now ... GO ! 21:56:01 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> My first is 75% loaded 21:56:07 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> c'mon let's do this baby 21:56:22 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> With just a minor amount of evil turns this should be good I think 21:56:29 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> And we are off!! 21:56:57 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Comeon! My station has a 100% rating. GROW! :D 21:57:03 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> lol 21:57:34 <Stablean> <Anson> my train finished the first third ... the eastern edge of the map 21:57:52 <Stablean> <Anson> now a bit less than the other two thirds along the north edge 21:57:54 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> My train is almost halfway 21:58:44 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> 2/3 there more or less 21:59:31 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 21:59:39 <Stablean> *** Supdawg has left the game (general timeout) 21:59:39 <Stablean> *** Supdawg has left the game (connection lost) 21:59:49 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> almost there! =D 22:00:03 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to happ 22:00:08 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I do have to say this is probably one of the stupidest attempt I have ever made in a game in general 22:00:15 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> aaaaaand 22:00:21 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Arrival!! 22:00:39 <Stablean> <Anson> how much did you get for the cargo ? 22:00:46 <Stablean> *** happ has left the game (leaving) 22:00:50 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> 138k for 400 pax? 22:01:02 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> 550 pax actually 22:01:08 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> even then, not too bad right? 22:01:18 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Considering the towns are minimal and all 22:01:24 <Stablean> <Anson> price of one of my trains 22:01:30 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> THe ratings bad because of the waiting.... 22:01:41 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> haha I am not sre how much this one costs 22:02:12 <Stablean> <Anson> my shi* cost almost 130k 22:02:22 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> It's pretty cheap. Like 80k? 22:02:48 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> But this is just a monorail and not a Maglev... So later on in the year those will be added instead of this thing 22:03:02 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> over the night it is supposed to earn back a good part of the money 22:03:08 <Stablean> <r1kkie> remeber that monorail can carry more then maglav :) 22:03:14 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Then the second construcion part begins... 22:03:24 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Hmm 22:03:34 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Whatever will have the highest pax/speed ratio 22:04:08 <Stablean> <r1kkie> I would go with monorail and FAST type train. How long trains do you use? 22:04:19 <Stablean> <Anson> my ships drive on monorails, but they have their own engines and wagons ... 108 pax per wagon, thus 1296 per train 22:04:21 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> What about your ships? Have they arrived yet? 22:04:31 <Stablean> <Anson> TL7 22:04:46 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Cameron: 22:04:56 <Stablean> <Anson> maybe 200 more tiles yet ... 22:05:14 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> If you use say, a maglev engine 22:05:24 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> there is no way to fit monorail carts on that right? 22:05:31 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Because that would be heaven 22:05:34 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Nope 22:05:37 <Stablean> <Anson> right ... or it is a bug 22:05:59 <Stablean> <r1kkie> How long is the trains? 22:06:05 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> 7 22:06:19 <Stablean> <Anson> TL7 ... 1 engine and 12 wagons 22:07:03 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Your vessel is stuck! D= 22:07:17 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> horray you fixed it! 22:07:20 <Stablean> <Anson> a backwards signal 22:07:26 <Stablean> <r1kkie> ringgeest11: I would use either 1 dogstar or 2 Tesla trains. 22:07:37 <Stablean> <Cameron> 530k, nice 22:07:40 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> What are the years they become available? 22:07:50 <Stablean> <r1kkie> You have them now. :D 22:07:56 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> ooooh sweet 22:08:12 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Thats why I suggested them. :D 22:08:18 <Stablean> <Anson> 163828 $ 22:08:18 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> ghehe.... hehehe... 22:08:29 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Do you have 8 tile stations? 22:08:43 <Stablean> <Anson> and arrival time is august 2005 22:08:45 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Me? No 7 22:08:47 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Ok. 22:08:53 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I might be able to upgrade to 8 22:08:55 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> why? 22:09:14 <Stablean> <r1kkie> The FAST clas train like the Tesla gets benefits for longer trains. 22:09:37 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Now that is a sexy boon 22:09:43 <Stablean> <Anson> almost 18 months :-) 22:10:02 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> My travel time is like, 3 months? 22:10:12 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> 3 to 4 months 22:10:22 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Last map i used 3 FAST engines on each train 12 tile long. :P 22:10:25 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Not all bridges are upgraded yet so they are slowing down 22:10:47 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Ghehe, bet those trains went like a shooting star? 22:11:10 <Stablean> <r1kkie> 340km/h no slowdowns in slopes, just the turns. 22:11:20 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Wow, neat 22:11:40 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Longer trains makes it harder to build the turns. :( 22:11:47 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> True 22:11:50 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Very true 22:12:01 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 22:12:01 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 22:12:07 <Stablean> <r1kkie> But it is fun with long trains. :D 22:13:13 <Stablean> <Cameron> 617k now 22:13:49 <Stablean> *** Starbud joined the game 22:14:18 <Stablean> *** Starbud has left the game (processing map took too long) 22:14:18 <Stablean> *** Starbud has left the game (connection lost) 22:19:55 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 22:19:55 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 22:20:46 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (general timeout) 22:20:46 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 22:20:50 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 22:20:50 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 22:30:22 <Stablean> <r1kkie> I dont know what to do. :) 22:30:26 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 22:30:46 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Well... You can join this company temporarily and help me lay down the signals? :P 22:30:56 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (processing map took too long) 22:30:56 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 22:31:18 <Stablean> <r1kkie> You know you can use ctrl right? 22:31:30 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> How do you mean? 22:31:44 <Stablean> <Anson> like always ... the wonder of CTRL :-) 22:32:04 <Stablean> <r1kkie> By holding down ctrl and drag 2 tiles it makes signals until the first junction 22:32:15 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> aaaah sweet 22:32:25 <Stablean> <r1kkie> First make the signal you want 22:32:48 <Stablean> <r1kkie> then press down ctrl and drag from that signal in the directiion you want. 22:33:06 <Stablean> <r1kkie> The magic ctrl. :D 22:33:16 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I did not know that trick 22:33:26 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> THanks! That will save me hours of work 22:33:36 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Your going to save a LOT of time. :D 22:33:55 <Stablean> <r1kkie> 50 hours of work in 2 sec. ;) 22:34:29 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> I said it before and I will gain 22:34:32 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> All hail CTRL! 22:34:38 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Yup 22:34:45 <Stablean> <Anson> only danger of that method : when you build a long track at the start, signals may add up to a lot 22:42:54 <Stablean> *** Starbud joined the game 22:43:26 <Stablean> *** Starbud has left the game (processing map took too long) 22:43:26 <Stablean> *** Starbud has left the game (connection lost) 22:51:09 <Stablean> *** RuplaBte joined the game 22:52:50 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 22:53:10 <Stablean> <ringgeest11> Could someone remove the trees around Joetsu so I can plant them and hopefully gain a little bit of their trust? 22:53:52 <Stablean> *** RuplaBte has left the game (leaving) 22:56:04 <Stablean> *** ringgeest11 has left the game (leaving) 22:58:23 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 22:58:51 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 22:58:51 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 22:59:29 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 23:00:00 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:00:00 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 23:00:34 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 23:01:05 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:01:05 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 23:01:38 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 23:02:09 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:02:09 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 23:02:50 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 23:03:18 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:03:18 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 23:05:51 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 23:06:19 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:06:19 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 23:07:12 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 23:07:40 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:07:40 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 23:11:27 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Anson: Are you there? 23:13:17 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 23:14:24 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 23:14:58 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 23:15:30 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:15:30 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 23:16:20 <Stablean> <Anson> installed a few buses to grow the two cities 23:16:34 <Stablean> <Anson> waiting for 1300+ pax takes too long :-( 23:16:48 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Anson: i need your help. :) 23:17:35 <Stablean> <Anson> my trains seem to go well now ... what's your problem ? 23:18:10 <Stablean> <r1kkie> my trains seems to behave rather strange at my refit station. Wondering if it is correctly builed 23:18:20 <Stablean> <r1kkie> check sign Refit Station correct? 23:19:18 <Stablean> <Anson> i built my station for animal trains ... those trains ignore CL and never slow down 23:19:45 <Stablean> <Anson> when you use different trains, you should avoid the curves at the entrance/exit to the station 23:20:27 <Stablean> <Anson> the station itself looks ok ... now checking orders 23:21:17 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:21:17 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 23:22:23 <Stablean> <Anson> the orders are not correct, but nothing terrible ... 23:22:29 <Stablean> <r1kkie> :( 23:22:55 <Stablean> <Anson> look at what orders 6 7 8 are testing and whether the checks will get to 8 at all 23:23:11 <Stablean> <Anson> if less than 50, it jumps 23:23:38 <Stablean> <Anson> the next test for >=50 is not needed since it gets to that klie only when order 6 fails 23:23:41 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Thats ok right? 23:24:07 <Stablean> <Anson> and when you jump on >=50, order 8 will never be reached 23:24:30 <Stablean> <r1kkie> So it is not needed. Right? 23:24:50 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Same for 17. 23:25:12 <Stablean> <Anson> since load is >=50 when you get to order 11, it is like a "jump allways" 23:25:34 <Stablean> <Anson> and since it jumps allways, order 8 is never done 23:26:33 <Stablean> <r1kkie> i think I got it. :) 23:26:40 <Stablean> <Anson> delete 8 23:27:32 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Think Im getting tierd. Twice I pusched del on keyboard when wanting to delet the order and exited the windows. LOL 23:27:39 <Stablean> <Anson> and insert the test for =100 before 6 23:28:14 <Stablean> <Anson> a test for 100 is not really needed, but i wanted to skip the attempt at full loading since it is already full 23:28:40 <Stablean> <Anson> pin down the window 23:28:48 <Stablean> <Anson> with the pin icon at the top right 23:28:54 <Stablean> <r1kkie> :) 23:29:01 <Stablean> <Anson> then you can use del to close all other windows 23:29:13 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Aha I see, didnt know that. :P 23:29:28 <Stablean> <Anson> and i think it is ctrl-del (hehe, ctrl again) to close also the pinned windows 23:29:38 <Stablean> <r1kkie> :P 23:29:40 <Stablean> <Anson> the magic of ctrl :-) 23:29:46 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Nope didnt do the trick. :P 23:29:52 <Stablean> <r1kkie> For once. :D 23:31:30 <Stablean> <r1kkie> First time I tried to set up these kinds of order took me forever! 23:32:10 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, then you might try the other loop first which i had built ... the wood loop 23:32:46 <Stablean> <Anson> that was built wizhout those many conditionals and just used partial loads to simply reuse the wood trains, but not optimized them 23:33:04 <Stablean> <r1kkie> :) 23:33:18 <Stablean> <r1kkie> This is more fun. :D 23:34:58 <Stablean> <Anson> just do a sequence of refit iron / pick iron / drop iron / refit steel / pick steel / drop steel / refit goods /pick goods / drop goods / repeat 23:35:33 <Stablean> <Anson> that is the basic sequence anyway, and then you can add checks later 23:35:51 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Your right. :) 23:36:10 <Stablean> <Anson> that's also how i write the orders ... first all goto, then add the jumps 23:36:56 <Stablean> <r1kkie> I must say, this is alot more fun then making the traditional 1 way cargo lines. :) 23:37:42 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Saw some pic at openttd where theyed made huge refit station. Looked kind of cool, would love to see it in action. :) 23:38:16 <Stablean> <Anson> btw: a test for load>=100 looks a bit strange, but i prefer it that way, just in case there is a rounding error and the result internally is 100.000001 % :-) 23:38:38 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Haha yeah, better safe then sorry. :D 23:39:48 <Stablean> <Anson> delete order 7 23:40:19 <Stablean> <Anson> it is the same test you do in line 8 23:41:01 <Stablean> <Anson> what you want to do : 23:41:19 <Stablean> <Anson> if load=100 then goto next station 23:41:54 <Stablean> <Anson> if load>50 then full load and goto next station 23:42:25 <Stablean> <Anson> and now the else part : unkload and restart 23:43:12 <Stablean> <Anson> line 8 must be replaced by the correct jump address ... either to 10 or directly to 1 23:43:22 <Stablean> <r1kkie> If Im not misstaken, previous map I looked at your order, you hade something like: Go to WP 23:43:40 <Stablean> <Anson> that is also an extra, checking only whether it is already 0 and unloading can be skipped 23:44:11 <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... the WP is a method to direct trans to a specific depot 23:44:37 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Wait a miniut, is my order 8 wrong? 23:44:39 <Stablean> <Anson> that would have been the next thing to check on your station : where do trains go to refit ? 23:44:57 <Stablean> <Anson> wrong, but harmless :-) 23:45:28 <Stablean> <Anson> order 8 can evaluate to true or false, and in any case it continues with the next order :-) 23:45:46 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Haha I see. 23:45:57 <Stablean> <Anson> the test for load=0 should skip the unload order, thus goto 10 and not 9 23:46:48 <Stablean> <Anson> but if you don't do the test, it still works ... it only might move the train a few pixels and then stop again to try unloading, and immediately continue 23:47:46 <Stablean> <r1kkie> I see 23:47:53 <Stablean> <Anson> load and unload orders always will stop the train and flash the loading indicator for a moment, even when it tries to load at 100% or unload at 0% 23:48:43 <Stablean> <Anson> that's why i added those checks ... but to make the whole a little simpler, you can leave them until you are more comfortable 23:48:55 <Stablean> <r1kkie> :) 23:49:34 <Stablean> <Anson> another point to watch : the 50 is no fixed number ... it depends on the factory, the rating and your trains 23:49:54 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Okey?.?. 23:50:15 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 23:50:18 <Stablean> <Anson> if the value is too low, it might happen that several trains are waiting for a full load, and thus block new trains from entering and delivering the iron 23:51:52 <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... the block from order 3 to 12 is ok 23:52:15 <Stablean> <Anson> for the next refitting station, 12 to 20 should be similar 23:52:39 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Yes, fixed them. Was the same "misstakes" as above. 23:53:25 <Stablean> <Anson> looks ok now 23:53:33 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Thanks man! 23:54:07 <Stablean> <r1kkie> One more thing, how do you put out this WP orders? 23:54:17 <Stablean> <Anson> the construction with alternating platforms saves space in length, but adds space in width 23:54:52 <Stablean> <Anson> when a map has only station spread 8, you can put max 4 platforms on such a station 23:55:02 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 23:55:06 <Stablean> <Anson> put out ??? 23:55:45 <Stablean> <Anson> for orders, WP is almost the same as stations ... use goto, and a WP will be added as "go via" 23:55:45 <Stablean> <r1kkie> The orders on witch depot the trains should go to to refit. 23:57:17 <Stablean> <Anson> when you only use "go to nearest depot", it might be an unwanted depot 23:57:35 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Yeah, I have expierienced that. :D 23:57:58 <Stablean> <Anson> and when you use "go to depot xxx", you would have to edit all trains (or at least all groups of trains) for the new depot 23:58:17 <Stablean> <Anson> but moving a WP by a few tiles is as easy as moving a station :-) 23:59:52 <Stablean> <Anson> lets move to the depots ...