Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 9th August 2013:
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01:52:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yoooooooooooooooooooooooo
01:53:00  <Stablean> <Slicey> dang
01:53:15  <Stablean> <Slicey> i got on this map earlier and already was full :(
01:53:23  <Stablean> <Slicey> there needs to be another server
01:53:27  <Stablean> <Slicey> just saying
01:53:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> theres plenty of room
01:53:45  <Stablean> <Slicey> no?
01:53:48  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yes?
01:53:54  <Stablean> <Slicey> its 1 company per island
01:54:06  <Stablean> <Slicey> but im saying
01:54:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> tetfield needs pax service
01:54:32  <Stablean> <Slicey> in 10 years the game is full 15/15 companys
01:55:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> the game was pretty busy earlier
01:55:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> 15 people here
01:55:22  <Stablean> <Slicey> and u cant say
01:55:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> anyhoo bbiab
01:55:42  <Stablean> <Slicey> i was late joined at 20 years -.-
01:56:04  <Stablean> <Slicey> ugh well just have to wait another map -.-
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02:03:09  <Stablean> <DeGhost> i'm RICH!!!
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04:09:45  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> good morning
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04:11:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo
04:22:47  <Sylf> evenin
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04:30:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hey
04:30:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> just got done updated railcar to #2 and new engines
04:31:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> I really don't know what I want to do with the island yet
04:31:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> I only had the TL at 5 when the running cost of the trains were crazy high at the beginning of the game
04:32:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sure
04:32:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmmm
04:32:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> animal trains should work without any changes
04:33:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> we need to add steel trains
04:33:14  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i want to add fruits
04:33:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> chudinghattan fruit plantation
04:33:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah
04:37:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hmm
04:38:09  <Stablean> <Sylf> ?
04:38:20  <Stablean> <Big Meech> slh needed for froots to go other way
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04:39:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> done
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04:46:14  <Stablean> <Big Meech> want to update to purr ?
04:46:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> not yet
04:46:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> okay
04:46:40  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> byee
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04:46:58  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm experimenting with chameleon
04:47:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> karma chameloeon?
04:47:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> ooooh
04:47:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> gotta connect sinningstone Copper mine
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04:47:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yuppers
04:48:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> we gots faktroy?
04:50:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> we need a goods route too
04:50:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> and or food
04:51:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah....
04:51:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> what a pain
04:51:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
04:51:46  <Stablean> <Big Meech> they're in peculiar spots
04:52:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> food is okay
04:52:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> Pinborough for drop will work too
04:52:45  <Stablean> <Sylf> factory/north sawmill is a bitch
04:52:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> south sawmill is easy
04:53:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
04:53:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> so, that's my assessment
04:55:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> train 50 is sad
04:55:52  <Stablean> <Sylf> but he may be our future
04:55:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sad? xD
04:56:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> all right, we're upgrading to purr
04:56:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> which color?
04:56:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm
04:57:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm, no...
04:57:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> how much more money does it take to switch to different color purr?
04:57:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> should be free, imo.
04:57:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hmm, i guess quite a bit
04:58:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> much less than the initial conversion
05:04:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I like how there's steam monorail
05:04:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> its the best
05:04:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hehe
05:04:46  <Stablean> <Big Meech> teenie too
05:04:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> maybe its nuclear powered! :D
05:05:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> heh, nice new FPP
05:05:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> pinbourough woods xD
05:05:58  <Stablean> <Sylf> we can use it too
05:13:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ty
05:14:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> trying to get ready for more tracks to FPP
05:14:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i think i made it a bit simpler
05:14:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah
05:14:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> V's livestock is funny
05:15:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ty for the help
05:16:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i thought of a new small feature
05:16:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> query tool for industries would show when it was built
05:17:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> I've thought about it too
05:18:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> but never really bothered me without one
05:18:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> well i was just thinking you might be able to determine if it will be there for a while or to move on
05:18:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i just hate when things close :D
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05:27:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh nice
05:27:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol im too quick xD
05:27:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> yah
05:28:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> hrm
05:28:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> go under :D
05:29:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> move station over?
05:29:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
05:30:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> looks complicated
05:32:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> blue mega jammed
05:33:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm?
05:33:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> he came on early and was like, "I'm Rich! "
05:34:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i sorta chuckled
05:34:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, too many steel trains
05:34:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> seriously too many
05:34:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
05:34:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I think PBS everywhere is part of the problem
05:35:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> not really
05:36:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> hrm
05:36:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> maybe a few more food trains won't hurt
05:37:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> I just don't want blue size jam
05:38:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i dont think we will hace that problem
05:38:46  <Stablean> <Player> ;o ghost having a clog
05:38:49  <Stablean> <Player> :o
05:38:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi
05:39:02  <Stablean> <Player> hiya
05:39:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> who are you? :)
05:39:16  <Stablean> <Player> oh
05:39:19  <Stablean> <Player> what the
05:39:21  <Stablean> <Player> im slicey
05:39:25  <Stablean> <Player> sec
05:39:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sliceeeeeeeeeee
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05:39:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> slice is sad he doesnt have an island to build on
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05:39:54  <Stablean> <Slicey> idk how it was player
05:40:25  <Stablean> <Slicey> dang meech u know whats up with ghost network?
05:40:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yup, fail
05:40:45  <Stablean> <Sylf> lol
05:40:49  <Stablean> <Sylf> very accurate
05:41:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> at least he's still making money
05:41:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i dont know how but he is
05:41:14  <Stablean> <Slicey> his coal mine
05:41:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> so at least he wont go bankrupt
05:41:38  <Stablean> <Slicey> yea
05:42:05  <Stablean> <Slicey> he has a good network but he will have to use maglevs
05:42:09  <Stablean> <Slicey> or slugs
05:42:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm
05:42:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> check our train 47
05:42:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, nvm
05:42:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> there was a piece of missing rail
05:42:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ah
05:43:30  <Stablean> <Slicey> hm whats the station size?
05:43:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> 12 i think
05:43:46  <Stablean> <Slicey> ah
05:43:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> why?
05:44:01  <Stablean> <Slicey> just wondering
05:44:08  <Stablean> <Slicey> last time i played it was 4x4
05:45:10  <Stablean> <Sylf> 4 works just fine too
05:45:33  <Stablean> <Slicey> hey its 1 company per island right
05:45:39  <Stablean> <Slicey> then what happened
05:45:46  <Stablean> <Slicey> at finham
05:45:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> don't expect everyone to read the rules
05:46:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> some people cant read either
05:47:14  <Stablean> <Slicey> just playing multiplayer made me rly notice the difference of not having tight curves
05:47:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :)
05:47:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> wait until you play on the coop's public server
05:48:28  <Stablean> <Slicey> wait this isnt the public server?
05:48:34  <Stablean> <Sylf> no
05:48:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> this is welcome server
05:48:44  <Stablean> <Slicey> oh
05:48:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> top secret passwords are needed for public
05:48:56  <Stablean> <Slicey> oh :(
05:48:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> and secret handshake
05:49:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> you make it sound like we are a gang or sumthin
05:49:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
05:49:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> word up homie
05:49:37  <Stablean> <Slicey> lol
05:49:51  <Stablean> <Big Meech> 8)
05:50:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> seriously though, anyone can play in public
05:50:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> well, at least once
05:50:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> people should play more on public
05:50:35  <Stablean> <Slicey> is it packed?
05:50:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> public server
05:50:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> not the latest game
05:50:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> nice turnout sometimes
05:51:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> the latest game has gone stale
05:51:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> your mind will be blown
05:51:37  <Stablean> <Slicey> so i could play?
05:51:39  <Stablean> <Slicey> :)
05:51:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah
05:51:57  <Stablean> <Slicey> is there Grf's like these?
05:52:07  <Stablean> <Big Meech> its more advanced though in building and planning, but you'll get that hang of it quickly
05:52:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> might like it even more than in here, since there's only 1 team
05:52:45  <Stablean> <Sylf>
05:54:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you will want to also join the IRC chatroom Slicey
05:54:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> no more steamer monorail
05:54:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> aww, i liked our nuclear monorail
05:55:38  <Stablean> <Slicey> alright how do u join irc im on the website
05:56:09  <Sylf>
05:56:28  <Sylf> it would help if you read the quickstart page, and follow some of the links on that page
05:57:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> anyway.
05:57:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> I have a 12-hour drive tomorrow
05:57:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> ttfn
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05:57:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Seeya bud :) drive safe
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05:58:34  <BiG_MeEcH> lol
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06:05:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> slice ? :)
06:06:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> bedtime
06:06:43  <Stablean> <Slicey> ?
06:07:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh
06:07:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> did you join the chatrooM?
06:07:12  <Stablean> <Slicey> no
06:07:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> want to ? :)
06:07:42  <Stablean> <Slicey> yes
06:07:52  <BiG_MeEcH>
06:08:32  <BiG_MeEcH> you can add it to your favorites
06:10:02  <Stablean> <Slicey> im in chat i think
06:10:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yup
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07:14:02  <Stablean> <ROM5419> i have nothing better to do so i came back to observe for a while
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09:12:11  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, cam
09:12:38  <Stablean> <Anson> quite difficult for you to build something with so little space !?
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09:15:31  <Stablean> <Gash> lol, bradworth falls >.<
09:16:33  <Stablean> <Anson> looks nice
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09:17:19  <Stablean> <Anson> why is there no mail service in that town ? :-)
09:17:55  <Stablean> <Anson> pax CCW and mail CW ... should be no problem :-)
09:20:33  <Stablean> <Anson> Cameron, what do you have planned for the future ? will you expand ?
09:29:41  <Stablean> <Anson> why do so many people always use path signals ?
09:30:07  <Stablean> <Anson> or even 2way path signals, or even reversed twoway path signals ?
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09:31:19  <Stablean> <Anson> RTM, did you use the backside of the twoway path signals on purpose (at Tronhattan Heights) ? why ?
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09:36:27  <Stablean> <Anson> @thepower12n : your train 6 has stopped, just at the same location where you just had the crash ....
09:36:46  <Stablean> <thepower12n> yea i konw;p
09:36:56  <Stablean> <thepower12n> bad layout
09:36:59  <Stablean> <thepower12n> not in the mood to fix it now;p
09:37:26  <Stablean> <Anson> why ? do all your rails have catenary ? or maybe the station can't be used by electric trains ?
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11:19:25  <V453000> Ammler: as sad as it is, path signals are default in OpenTTD ... even worse, 2way PBS signals are default.
11:19:34  <V453000> ehh sorry :)
11:19:36  <V453000> Anson:
11:20:27  <Anson> yes?
11:21:09  <V453000> ...
11:21:58  <Anson> ah. the above was an answet to me! ?!
11:22:41  <V453000> obviously :)
11:22:51  <Stablean> <Anson> i am just running a second copy of ottd, to try making a map :-)
11:23:15  <V453000> I often run multiple instances :)
11:23:29  <Stablean> <Anson> got a bell from my phone, when you wrote my name, and then had to read back
11:23:48  <V453000> 2 lines :)
11:25:20  <Stablean> <Anson> I'm thinking about how to make an interesting coop version of maps ... like adding a rule that everybody may build everywhre, but only be allowed to use ONE type of cargo :-)
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11:28:00  <Stablean> <Anson> and allowing ships (at medium high running costs) so that people can't make a profif from the ships, but still can afford them to transport cargo to exchange stations (oil platforms which can be used by everybody)
11:28:36  <V453000> 1. no ships ever
11:28:42  <V453000> 2. play in one company if you want to coop
11:30:00  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: V, nice project that you did ... took exactly 3 years and 4 days (from one blog to the other) :-)
11:30:16  <V453000> oh, it was that close? :)
11:30:47  <V453000> oh I remember, the first blog had 2 edition
11:30:48  <V453000> s
11:30:52  <V453000> it was updated after a month
11:31:17  <V453000> hm
11:31:22  <V453000> though archive says game ended 7.8.2010
11:31:36  <Stablean> <Mks> anson problem with building everywhere is it will be crossed networks all over
11:31:42  <V453000> which would be 3 years and 1 day
11:31:44  <Stablean> <Mks> and might even be hard to do anything at all later on
11:31:55  <V453000> crossing networks is outright wrong
11:32:04  <V453000> it mainly means that you are building long LINES, not HUBS
11:32:12  <V453000> building a line is about as dumb as building ships
11:33:42  <Mks> V is there anyway to auto generate lots of small islands?
11:33:54  <V453000> sort of
11:33:55  <Mks> was thinking of a map where you may use a cluster of small islands
11:34:07  <Stablean> <Anson> people could still be building networks with hubs ... but that's why i am still thinking about what can be done
11:34:15  <V453000> I dont think small island clusters are too good to do though
11:34:25  <Mks> why not?
11:34:34  <V453000> you cant put much on them :)
11:34:53  <Stablean> <Anson> lots of islands : that was part of my idea too ... just had the idea to use heightmaps: draw one island, then copy&paste in a graphics program
11:35:06  <V453000> having separated pieces of lands for everyone is fun, small islands are imo too restrictive
11:35:30  <Stablean> <Anson> depends on the bridge length ...
11:35:54  <V453000> e.g. most idiots join and say "omfg too much water" ... but what they do not realize is that the water does not influence them as they stay on their island ... with small islands it does
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11:36:12  <Stablean> <Anson> o connect the small islands of one group among each other, not long enough to get to a neighbor
11:36:18  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi all
11:36:19  <V453000> not to mention that generating small islands would probably indeed be rather tedious to create
11:36:26  <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> hi all
11:36:32  <Stablean> <Nikit0dZZZa> Рш!
11:36:36  <V453000> whole point of mine is, why have small islands at all, no point
11:36:38  <Stablean> <Nikit0dZZZa> Hi
11:37:01  <Mks> well for one reason you may choice to say use 3 islands or 10
11:37:01  <V453000> ofc Anson but if you connect them then it is 1 continent again :)
11:37:24  <V453000> additional rules Mks ... :/
11:37:30  <Stablean> <Anson> why small islands ? why not ? .-) ... there are also mountains as obstacles, and why not some water as obstacle too ?
11:37:40  <V453000> why not is not an argument
11:37:56  <V453000> there can be lakes within larger islands too
11:38:17  <V453000> so water really is an obstacle in both cases, with small islands it just is stupidly restrictive imo
11:38:32  <V453000> and in the end you bridge it anyway, so what is the gain
11:38:46  <V453000> most likely possible to bridge only in 1 spot anyway so no choice either
11:38:51  <Mks> wish you could make like ultra high mountains thats impassable
11:39:00  <V453000> lol
11:39:03  <Mks> to make ravins instead where you may build
11:39:14  <V453000> well you can make rules like ML only below snow line on PS :)
11:39:32  <Mks> well there yes but not on stable
11:39:34  <V453000> I often prefer to have ML only above snow, but that is beside the point :)
11:39:48  <V453000> who said you have to play only on stable :)
11:39:55  <Mks> noone
11:40:09  <Mks> if I have time I'll join a PS game again
11:40:38  <V453000> I made a map yesterday, I will load it when I get home
11:40:45  <Stablean> <Anson> that's the advantage of PS: no need to build a complete network yourself ...
11:41:17  <V453000> main advantage of PS is the archive, which guarantees improvement and progress in level of building
11:41:36  <V453000> obviously the cooperative part is nice, yes
11:41:58  <V453000> and e.g. pax games arent really viable without coop
11:42:09  <V453000> unless you have wayyy too much time :D
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11:45:58  <Stablean> <Anson> which size should be prefered for maps on these servers ?
11:46:19  <V453000> "these" ?
11:46:46  <Stablean> <Anson> i am just checking the heightmaps which are available for ingame download, and most of them are 2048x2048 or have no size in their descriptions
11:47:00  <Stablean> <Anson> these = stable and ps
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11:48:51  <V453000> I really wouldnt use heightmaps but hm
11:49:32  <V453000> still, stable is Always 512x1024 so I thought you already realized that ... PS can vary, no more than 512x512 and respective adaptations like 256x1024
11:49:58  <V453000> stable requires a lot of water, PS not necessarily
11:50:10  <V453000> again, most of this stuff is written in the pdf about creating maps
11:51:45  <Mks> I wish we could make like 4kx8k maps :)
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11:55:38  <V453000> Mks: for what :)
11:56:05  <V453000> I personally am getting LOST in more than 512x1024, and the cpu requirements of a full 512x512 are way above today processors
11:56:18  <V453000> demonstrated in games like pzg21 or pzg2013
11:56:36  <V453000> even games on 256x256 can be cpu melt
11:57:04  <V453000> (like for example psg216)
11:58:25  <V453000> and my i7 is pretty damn good I would say
12:03:00  <Mks> well
12:03:15  <Mks> fun with a large map
12:03:22  <Mks> would be neat if you could have a globe
12:03:39  <Mks> tho getting lost on the map would be a problem
12:04:50  <V453000> ._.
12:04:58  <V453000> I dont see how large map is fun but k
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12:10:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi all
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12:10:52  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi happy tran  sport
12:11:20  <Stablean> <Nikit0dZZZa> Hi!
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12:12:16  <Stablean> <Anson> you just refered to PSG216 ... is there another way to load it, besides first going to another site, registering for their forums, etc ? (for the trees)
12:13:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things syl59
12:13:20  <Stablean> <Anson> mks: how would you build a globe on a flat map ? :-)
12:13:22  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Good :) you ?
12:13:28  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
12:13:50  <Stablean> <Anson> most games that say they would use a globe as map really use a toroid ... also known as donut :-)
12:14:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice   wood  drop  of
12:14:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> syl59
12:15:49  <Mks> anson well thats a real challange ofcourse to make a flat map into a globe
12:18:03  <V453000> I do have the trees on my dropbox Anson but cant quite get that atm
12:18:19  <V453000> go tell SAC that she is a cunt
12:18:24  <V453000> you can send my best regards
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12:22:18  <Stablean> <Mks> V are you still here?
12:22:52  <V453000> nope
12:22:53  <V453000> :>
12:23:00  <Stablean> <Mks> for tl 2 what works best for train type?
12:23:00  <Stablean> <Mks> in nuts
12:23:11  <V453000> chameleon without equal
12:23:36  <V453000> rail strong probably second
12:23:47  <Stablean> <Mks> what do you mean without equal?
12:23:56  <V453000> "by far"
12:24:06  <V453000> there is nothing that can perform equally as chameleons in TL2
12:24:13  <Stablean> <Mks> how come?
12:24:25  <Stablean> <Mks> aren't normal trains faster and higher capacity?
12:24:44  <V453000> not higher capacity as engine itself has capacity
12:24:50  <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh
12:24:55  <V453000> not faster as chameleon speeds reduce with increasing lengths
12:24:59  <V453000> meaning TL2 is very fast
12:25:07  <Stablean> <Mks> true
12:25:20  <V453000> and power is pretty good - and if you consider it bad, you can sacrifice ONLY 14 units of cargo to double the power
12:25:23  <Stablean> <Mks> well I'll try convert when I can afford it
12:29:39  <Stablean> <Mks> so chameleon is made for when you do short trains?
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12:33:01  <V453000> more or less
12:33:14  <V453000> it is usable with longer too due to the short CL
12:33:26  <V453000> in all configurations, 7 loading stages arent too friendly though
12:42:04  <Stablean> <Mks> so its a slow loader?
12:46:57  <Stablean> <Mks> happy got a bit of jam it seems like
12:47:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wher
12:47:53  <Stablean> <Mks> most of your network :P
12:48:11  <V453000> Mks All of what I am telling you is at
12:48:11  <Stablean> <Mks> but the problem is east sunningpool I think
12:48:13  <V453000> ..
12:48:31  <Stablean> <Mks> well I read it a bit at least
12:48:58  <Stablean> <Mks> its a jam so no oil trains deliver and the goods train don't get any goods due to it
12:49:04  <V453000> then read it again when searching for info :)
12:49:42  <Stablean> <Mks> ohh iron I mean
12:49:48  <Stablean> <Mks> seems the factorty shut down
12:50:10  <Stablean> <Mks> you need to fix it happy
12:50:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
12:50:31  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Wait
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12:50:39  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> That's not happy's compagny x)
12:51:25  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Mks, you speak about Suningpool ? :)
12:51:55  <Stablean> <Mks> ohhh
12:51:55  <Stablean> <Mks> sorry
12:51:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> np
12:52:01  <Stablean> <Mks> wrong blue
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12:52:36  <Stablean> <Mks> happys network has no problems I think
12:52:51  <Stablean> <Mks> Deghost then :P
12:53:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> but    i need  to mak it   2 way  soon
12:53:19  <V453000> :D I understand when people miss orange and yellow, but blue and dkblue is a Bit different :D
12:54:13  <Stablean> <Mks> syl59 and king peekys company colors are very similar as well
12:54:35  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I can't change mks :p
12:54:49  <Stablean> <Mks> I know
12:54:56  <Stablean> <Mks> should be more diffrent colors
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12:57:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi   sylf
12:57:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> hi
12:57:35  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> playing openttd and watching tractor pulling at the same time, kinda wierd xD
12:59:35  <V453000> hyyy
13:03:44  <V453000> Sylf how bout we start a new ps game tonite
13:03:53  <V453000> in idk, 3 hours from naow
13:04:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> sounds good to me.
13:04:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'll still be on the road, driving home from my vacation
13:04:47  <V453000> so be it shall
13:04:51  <V453000> ye :)
13:04:53  <V453000> long trip eh
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13:14:07  <Stablean> <Anson> temporary jams in multiplayer can turn out really bad when players are offline for a bit ...
13:15:01  <Stablean> <Anson> just happening to DeGhost where i no longer can see a steel factory at Suningpool
13:15:37  <Stablean> <Anson> and already happened to Rikkie too, who at least has the luck that half his network still works
13:15:53  <V453000> got to build safely and properly :)
13:16:01  <V453000> ofc mistakes can happen though
13:17:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi anson
13:17:26  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, tran
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13:18:33  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
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13:21:12  <Stablean> <Anson> although overflow depots are not so nice, i like them in multiplayer games ... "just in case", so that trains don't queue back to a mainline when something happens
13:21:26  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I love them :)
13:21:40  <Stablean> <Anson> like happy's slunford west
13:22:20  <Stablean> <Anson> very small footprint, but still works, and even has an invisible depot
13:23:05  <V453000> overflow on secondaries is only really necessary overflow
13:23:08  <V453000> primaries very, very rarely
13:23:32  <V453000> and of that the basic design you are talking about is quite unsuitable
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13:24:40  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> king   o got a  tran  q  at  your food  plant
13:24:42  <Stablean> <Anson> you would build full featured overflows instead, with invisible depots, waiting bays, prios, etc ?
13:25:18  <V453000> obviously.
13:25:20  <Stablean> <King Peky> I know ..
13:25:26  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
13:26:43  <V453000> for secondaries it makes sense, for primaries it mostly does not
13:28:14  <Stablean> <Anson> also depends on the amount of cargo ... when you expect a primary to grow while you are afk, it makes sense to fill an overflow with some additional trains ..
13:28:30  <V453000> so that they can jam your network while you are away?
13:28:31  <V453000> splendid idae
13:28:32  <V453000> idae
13:28:34  <Stablean> <Anson> but that also can easily flood the whole network when many primaries grow :-) LOL
13:28:34  <V453000> hm
13:28:37  <V453000> idea :)
13:28:52  <V453000> exactly
13:28:59  <V453000> and primaries do not really decrease production
13:29:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> anson   u not going  to play
13:29:36  <Stablean> <Anson> 15 companies in this game already
13:29:48  <Stablean> <Anson> and most useful islands taken anyway
13:30:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> u can  john  me  if u  whont
13:30:08  <Stablean> <thepower12n> you want mine:P?
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13:31:47  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> It's maglev good at TL5 ?
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13:35:25  <Stablean> <Anson> thepower12n: your network wasn't too bad ... mostly needed changing signals to something better than twoway pbs all over the place
13:36:37  <V453000> it is [FR]Syl59
13:36:45  <Stablean> <thepower12n> when does this server restart?
13:36:52  <V453000> when it does
13:36:54  <Stablean> <Anson> never
13:37:04  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> really V ? ^^'
13:37:10  <Stablean> <Anson> RESTART never ... we only get a new map sometime :-)
13:37:26  <V453000> which isnt true either Anson
13:37:45  <V453000> so, stfu :>
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13:42:12  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> let's try maglev on TL 5 ^^'
13:42:30  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> never done that before
13:42:47  <V453000> you did that 2 games ago? :d
13:42:54  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> it was on TL4
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13:57:32  <Stablean> <Anson> back from phone ....
13:57:54  <Stablean> <Anson> V, big LOL ... you have used a 640+ years old blimp :-)
13:58:02  <Stablean> <Anson> in the 2013 game
14:02:11  <V453000> yes :)
14:02:22  <V453000> was just to keep the refinery alive
14:02:28  <V453000> isnt counted in the 204k score
14:07:27  <V453000> @records
14:07:28  <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 26 | Trains: 2666 (PSG#219) - 3000 (PZG#21) - ( 5000 (PZG#2013) logic net) | Single cargo type output: 204,614 (PZG#2013) | World Pop: 6,150,671 (PSG#201) | PublicServer:Archive - Hall of Fame - #openttdcoop Wiki -
14:07:41  <V453000> 614 :) still dont remember it
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14:12:43  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> h
14:13:31  <V453000> h
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14:24:56  <Stablean> <Muel> hi
14:25:39  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
14:25:46  <Stablean> <Mks> hi
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14:30:10  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Haha wtf 8 of my mines/factory is shut down
14:30:25  <Stablean> <Mks> poor service prolly
14:30:31  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Haha nope
14:30:37  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Or at least not when I left. :P
14:30:43  <Stablean> <r1kkie> 70+ on all
14:30:57  <Stablean> <Mks> odd
14:31:08  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Oh well what to do. :D
14:31:11  <Stablean> <Mks> I notice some other players had things shut down for them as well
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14:35:47  <Stablean> <r1kkie> No worry
14:35:58  <Stablean> <r1kkie> This has gone straight to hell past years. Haha
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14:36:10  <Stablean> <Mks> hehe
14:36:14  <Stablean> <Mks> where are all your trains?
14:36:40  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Sold, 5 industries that had shut down the past 16 houers. Haha
14:38:27  <Stablean> <r1kkie> I like all the sign all over my island. :D
14:38:38  <Stablean> <Mks> hehe I saw them
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14:39:01  <Stablean> <Mks> dunno who placed them but prolly someone who saw there was some issuses in your network that caused some things to shut down
14:39:11  <Stablean> <Mks> btw even power plants can shut down in this game
14:40:17  <Stablean> <r1kkie> I think it all started with on shuting down that lead to trains started to quee into the main line and alot more trains was stuck. :P
14:40:49  <Stablean> <Mks> probarbly
14:53:49  <Stablean> <Anson> back from game2013 :-)
14:54:13  <Stablean> <Mks> stupid town do not accept food
14:54:19  <V453000> :)
14:54:29  <V453000> some new discoveries Anson, :D
14:54:31  <V453000> ?
14:54:41  <Stablean> <Anson> rikkie: it all probably started with bad signals ... according to the signs "before you leave"
14:55:24  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Maby. :P
14:55:47  <Stablean> <Anson> i guess the train speed in game2013 at 22 tiles per day ... that results in 2.2 trains per day and rail, 2.2*11 trains total ...
14:55:49  <Stablean> <Mks> why doesn't cadinghall except food?
14:56:48  <V453000> I have no idea about those numbers Anson but it isnt important to me either :)
14:57:15  <V453000> anyway, off
14:57:15  <V453000> byez
14:57:18  <Stablean> <Mks> cya
14:57:24  <Stablean> <Mks> mm
14:58:58  <Stablean> <Anson> that would be 8833 trains per year ... or 2288 megaliters of oil :-)
15:01:37  <Stablean> <Anson> besides only guessing and not exactly measuring the train speed of 2.2 trains per day and rail, the 2288 megaliters of oil should be more exact than the 204k goods, which depend on the oil factory ratings
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15:05:11  <Stablean> <Mks> grrr
15:05:18  <Stablean> <Mks> why won't Cadinghall accept food
15:05:28  <Stablean> <r1kkie> mk where is mt money?? ;)
15:05:54  <Stablean> <Mks> the ones I spent?
15:05:58  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Haha
15:06:00  <Stablean> <Mks> well I still ahve some left if you need it
15:06:06  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Nahg just kidding
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15:10:56  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi all
15:11:18  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: everybody can edit ALL signs ... you can also delete all those (now outdated) grey signs too ... only the shortcut to delete them with CTRL-CLICK doesn't work for them
15:13:21  <Stablean> <Mks> well you can't delete the welcome sign :)
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15:37:05  <Stablean> <Mks> crash
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15:38:58  <Stablean> <V453000> asdf heloi
15:39:40  <Stablean> <Mks> huh
15:39:48  <Stablean> <V453000> lol Cameron you are so handsome
15:40:00  <Stablean> <V453000> someone always joins your island, you are terribly attractive
15:40:07  <Stablean> <Anson> the helau season starts only on 11/11 at 11.11 :-)
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16:09:55  <Stablean> <V453000> PS on
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16:53:34  <V453000> public server is alive btw
16:54:13  <Jam35> alive as in not half dead? :P
16:54:41  <V453000> ..
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16:58:14  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Hello
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17:35:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
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17:39:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I like the signs left for yellow team
17:39:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> blue still jammed too I see
17:39:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Jam35 must have done that :D
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17:40:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> wish I had :)
17:41:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
17:41:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> I might leave a thousand signs why
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17:56:32  <V453000> Vinnie, wrong room :P
17:56:46  <V453000> same thing for meech :)
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18:03:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Syl x]
18:03:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Vinnie!
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18:04:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> v453000 =]
18:04:58  <Stablean> <V453000> yo
18:05:04  <Stablean> <V453000> get over to public server? :P
18:07:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> can't play now, sorry
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18:08:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> bbl :)
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18:25:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i was in the dinner room
18:25:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> that is never the wrong room
18:25:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
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20:00:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
20:00:42  <Stablean> <Slicey> hiya
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