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00:33:10 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 00:33:41 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (processing map took too long) 00:33:41 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 00:45:28 *** Anson has quit IRC 00:45:51 *** Anson has joined #openttdcoop.stable 01:04:58 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators 01:04:58 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 02:11:14 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 02:11:50 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 02:11:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 02:49:17 *** bug_sniper has quit IRC 03:01:11 *** Speedy has quit IRC 03:01:45 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 03:03:18 *** bug_sniper has joined #openttdcoop.stable 03:03:21 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #9 03:03:21 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 03:03:58 <V453000> where is meech :( 03:04:00 <V453000> hi Sylf :> 03:04:23 <Stablean> <Sylf> hi 03:04:29 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 03:04:36 <Stablean> <V453000> hows the rainbow :> 03:04:43 <Stablean> <V453000> jammed 03:04:45 <Stablean> <V453000> :S 03:04:47 <Stablean> <Sylf> haven't seen it yet 03:05:18 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 03:05:27 <Stablean> <V453000> LOL 03:05:38 <Stablean> <V453000> I had missing signal in overflow for the entier game 03:05:52 <Stablean> <V453000> entire anyway 03:07:10 <Stablean> <V453000> rainbow is on my network btw so cant miss it :P 03:07:48 <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah, I read the earlier co,nversation about the rainbow trains 03:07:54 <Stablean> <V453000> :D 03:08:32 <Stablean> <V453000> well then where is Meech you filthy americans :> 03:08:44 <bug_sniper> !time 03:08:44 <Stablean> bug_sniper: 03:08 (UTC) 03:08:50 <bug_sniper> !server start 03:08:57 <bug_sniper> !starttime 03:09:00 <bug_sniper> !start-time 03:09:02 <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm not his daddy :P 03:09:18 <bug_sniper> !duration 03:09:23 <bug_sniper> !time-passed 03:09:31 <bug_sniper> !date 03:09:31 <Stablean> bug_sniper: 18 Feb 2168 03:10:05 <bug_sniper> well, is the game going to end any time soon? 03:10:12 <Stablean> <V453000> jeez this network got a beating :D 03:10:24 <Stablean> <V453000> no, never bug_sniper 03:10:34 <Stablean> <V453000> also thanks for asking the top1 annoying question 03:10:43 <bug_sniper> I'm sorry, I'll stop 03:10:50 <Stablean> <V453000> good :) 03:12:18 <Stablean> <V453000> though if Sylf feels like making a map, then perhaps there is hope :) 03:12:29 <Stablean> <Sylf> no, now I refuse. 03:12:43 <Stablean> <V453000> me too, so :> 03:13:33 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 03:14:16 <bug_sniper> guess I'm on my own then if I want to use a map type with different industries 03:23:20 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 03:23:20 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 03:23:28 <Stablean> *** Rex Connors joined the game 03:23:29 <V453000> whats so terrible about the current industries 03:26:25 <Stablean> *** Rex Connors has left the game (leaving) 03:44:26 <bug_sniper> nothing 03:44:57 <bug_sniper> It's just that I've ruined my company by building that stupid tunnel through the mountain 03:45:10 <bug_sniper> and that wasted all of my money 03:49:41 <V453000> not like money matters in any regard 03:50:21 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 03:50:24 <V453000> anyway I found an unused game 03:50:30 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 03:50:38 <V453000> uses same newGRFs, but is a different and new map :) 03:50:46 <V453000> !auto 03:50:46 <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 04:16:44 <V453000> nice to see that you actually care about the new map :) 04:29:02 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 04:29:07 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yoooooooo 04:30:06 *** bug_sniper_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 04:30:46 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has started a new company (#2) 04:30:48 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 04:31:18 <V453000> hi meech :D 04:31:21 <V453000> I have something for you 04:31:23 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hiya :D 04:31:29 <Stablean> <Big Meech> really? 04:31:32 <Stablean> <Big Meech> IRCish? 04:31:37 <V453000> OH FUCK 04:31:38 <V453000> sec 04:32:05 *** Speedy` has joined #openttdcoop.stable 04:32:13 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 04:32:17 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 04:32:24 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 04:32:30 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 04:32:34 *** BiG has joined #openttdcoop.stable 04:32:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 04:32:41 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 04:32:44 <Stablean> <V453000> sadf 04:32:51 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has started a new company (#2) 04:32:53 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 04:33:05 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 04:33:11 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 04:33:13 <BiG> srsly? 04:33:14 <BiG> xD 04:33:15 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 04:33:19 <V453000> yes 04:33:29 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 04:33:29 <V453000> !URO 04:33:32 <V453000> !auto 04:33:32 <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 04:33:32 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (manual) 04:33:32 <Stablean> <Big Meech> wtf 04:33:40 <Stablean> <V453000> look very carefully :) 04:33:55 <Stablean> <V453000> if you cant find it I will tell you 04:34:01 <Stablean> <Big Meech> gimme a sec 04:34:18 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 04:34:49 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 04:34:49 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 04:35:19 <Stablean> <Big Meech> you posed as butt thunder? 04:35:37 <Stablean> <V453000> mhm 04:35:46 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 04:35:50 <Stablean> <V453000> but that isnt what I am trying to show you 04:35:56 <Stablean> <Big Meech> alright hang on :) 04:36:06 <Stablean> <Big Meech> new slugs? 04:36:06 *** bug_sniper has quit IRC 04:36:13 <Stablean> <Big Meech> quel colour vas tu? 04:36:16 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 04:36:16 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 04:36:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> OMG 04:36:37 <Stablean> <Big Meech> RAINBOW SLUGZ 04:36:43 <Stablean> <Big Meech> V ARE YOU ON LSD?! 04:36:46 <Stablean> <V453000> and something more 04:36:52 <Stablean> <V453000> that isnt all of it 04:36:54 <Stablean> <Big Meech> kk still looking :D 04:37:00 <Stablean> <V453000> I will give you a hint 04:37:06 <Stablean> <V453000> they randomize colour 04:37:17 <Stablean> <V453000> an in one specific rare case, they randomize also something else 04:37:25 <Stablean> <V453000> well, they randomize head, point is to what 04:37:51 <Stablean> <V453000> probability is around 1/100 so I have about 7 of them 04:37:57 <Stablean> <Big Meech> technicolor rainbow slug? 04:37:59 <Stablean> <Big Meech> train 239??? 04:38:03 <Stablean> <V453000> look and stfu :> 04:38:09 <Stablean> <V453000> I think that is one 04:38:27 <Stablean> <V453000> nope that is just rainbow 04:38:27 <Stablean> <Big Meech> i see a white head with a black tail one 04:38:29 <Stablean> <V453000> look more 04:38:40 <Stablean> <V453000> that is just zebra slug, nothing special :P 04:38:42 <Stablean> <Big Meech> OH 04:38:52 <Stablean> <Big Meech> TEH C4T BASTARD is driving 04:38:58 <Stablean> <V453000> thats not C4T 04:39:04 <Stablean> <V453000> that is nyan cat you fucking idiot :> 04:39:10 <Stablean> <Big Meech> OMFG 04:39:13 <Stablean> <Big Meech> HAHAHAHA 04:39:16 <Stablean> <V453000> now this still isnt the end 04:39:18 <Stablean> <Big Meech> FOR MEECH xD 04:39:20 <Stablean> <V453000> yes :> 04:39:23 <Stablean> <Big Meech> LMAO 04:39:27 <Stablean> <Big Meech> haha 04:39:33 <Stablean> <Big Meech> IT TALKS! 04:39:35 <Stablean> <V453000> so yeah there you go :) 04:39:41 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy~ 04:39:54 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 04:40:06 <Stablean> <Big Meech> does it talk randomly? 04:40:13 <Stablean> <V453000> no always when cat appears 04:40:20 <Stablean> <V453000> anyway, lets give you your new map back :P 04:40:24 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (processing map took too long) 04:40:24 <Stablean> *** [RO] RTM has left the game (connection lost) 04:40:29 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yeah RTM wants to play 04:40:36 <BiG> I like it 04:40:37 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 04:40:42 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 04:40:46 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 04:40:46 <V453000> fuck if you didnt :D 04:40:48 <V453000> !auto 04:40:48 <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 04:40:52 <BiG> kinda surprised you made it for me 04:40:59 <BiG> :D 04:41:04 <V453000> :) 04:41:07 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has started a new company (#2) 04:41:07 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 04:41:44 <Stablean> <V453000> I made it for myself as a selfish fuck, I just wrote it on that so it would look like I am a nice person 04:42:00 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 04:42:26 <Stablean> <V453000> so yeah off to work :) cya 04:42:32 <Stablean> <V453000> nice that I caught you 04:42:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> seeya :) 04:42:34 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 04:45:45 <V453000> go build rainbow slugs :P 04:45:49 <V453000> or else! 04:45:51 <BiG> I will! 04:46:01 <V453000> :) 04:48:39 <V453000> downside is they come in 2099 :P 04:48:50 <BiG> Meh, Cameron will be logged in all day 04:48:55 <BiG> Soon it will be 253735 04:49:00 <V453000> XD 04:50:57 <BiG> there should be a script that moves a player who hasnt built anything in 5 years to spectators 04:51:15 <BiG> its kinda annoying to come back and play and 60 years have gone by with 1 person in a company 04:51:38 <BiG> not doing anything 05:06:02 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has started a new company (#1) 05:06:04 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 05:06:12 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi 05:06:14 <Stablean> <r1kkie> hi 05:06:49 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 05:15:41 <Sylf> oh, that's easy to fix. we can ban cameron. 05:15:58 <BiG> lol, nah... 05:16:21 <BiG> :) 05:16:54 <BiG> how are you? :) 05:25:17 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 05:25:17 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 05:25:19 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 05:26:49 <V453000> :D Sylf 05:27:26 <V453000> are there slugs yet Meech? 05:30:14 <BiG> not quite :P 05:30:30 <BiG> see "!date" xD 05:30:40 <BiG> besides, it only works when Cameron is online :D 05:32:19 <V453000> duh why leaving the game then! 05:32:24 <V453000> impatient bastard 05:32:29 <BiG> :P 05:32:36 <BiG> almost bedtime 05:32:47 <V453000> excuses 05:32:53 <V453000> it is always almost bedtime if you think abuot it 05:33:47 <V453000> never drawing a train for you again! 05:33:50 <BiG> in that situation, its almost time that you're dead too 05:34:01 <V453000> doesnt even stay in teh game for 180 years, what unappreciation 05:34:15 <V453000> I am sad now, you see 05:34:36 <BiG> you should be less sad and go to work or something 05:34:57 <V453000> I am at work but I have like 20 minutes till fucking software boots 05:35:06 <V453000> so technically I am actually working now 05:35:10 <V453000> so stfu :>>> 05:35:28 <BiG> sounds lame 05:35:38 <BiG> you need more cpu 05:35:58 <V453000> tell boss 05:36:14 <BiG> long wait for a few apps 05:36:30 <V453000> well with some custom graphics drivers and shit so idk 05:36:50 <V453000> also just 1 app :( 05:36:53 <BiG> lol, what is the job description? 05:37:06 <V453000> Professional Office Sitter 05:37:16 <BiG> excellent 05:37:16 <V453000> I sit in the office and stare at shit, mostly display 05:37:37 <BiG> can you doodle slugs while you wait? 05:38:09 <scshunt> I think the question whas "what is you job supposed to be?" 05:38:10 <scshunt> ;) 05:38:18 <V453000> not quite :) 05:38:29 <V453000> they call it 3d graphics gay person 05:38:40 <BiG> haha 05:39:05 <scshunt> that sounds very discriminatory 05:39:45 <BiG> they dont discrimiate between different graphics though, so its okay 05:39:55 <V453000> indeed, we do everything 05:40:02 <V453000> including "slave of CEO" things 05:40:23 <BiG> dressing in leather and chains and getting whipped? 05:40:32 <V453000> aka "yoooooooo I need some mothafuking name stamps on tables for wedding ... and my son kinda dont got time during holidayss for it " 05:40:37 <V453000> no that not yet 05:40:46 <BiG> maybe today then 05:40:55 <V453000> hopefully 05:43:54 <Stablean> *** KTG joined the game 05:44:25 <Stablean> *** KTG has left the game (leaving) 06:40:47 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 06:42:12 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has started a new company (#1) 06:42:14 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 06:43:29 <V453000> hi :) 06:43:34 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 06:47:53 <V453000> make slugs :P 06:59:09 <Stablean> *** Rex Connors has started a new company (#3) 06:59:11 <Stablean> *** Rex Connors joined the game 07:00:39 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> dam i got to go now 07:00:46 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 07:01:03 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 07:02:44 <Stablean> *** Rex Connors has left the game (leaving) 07:02:44 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 07:03:01 <Stablean> *** Panda has started a new company (#4) 07:03:03 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:03:03 <Stablean> *** Panda joined the game 07:08:53 <V453000> Panda invasion :D 07:09:16 <Stablean> <Panda> Hahaha what? 07:09:27 <V453000> hello :) 07:09:32 <Stablean> <Panda> hey V 07:09:42 <Stablean> <Panda> im pretty beginner 07:09:59 <V453000> cant be too beginner if you already know to call me V :D 07:10:14 <Stablean> <Panda> i watch XeryusTC 07:10:16 <Stablean> <Panda> :P 07:10:28 <V453000> :d 07:11:03 <Stablean> <Panda> you gonna come play and dominate me? 07:11:15 <planetmaker> too much info 07:11:30 <Stablean> *** bug_sniper joined the game 07:11:43 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> awesome, we have a new map 07:11:49 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> now I can really do something 07:11:55 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> thanks for making a new map 07:11:57 <Stablean> <Panda> haha 07:12:36 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> of course, if anyone needs help, you'll have to find someone else, becuase I'm new too. 07:12:46 <Stablean> <Panda> noooooo 07:13:16 <Stablean> *** bug_sniper has started a new company (#3) 07:14:17 <V453000> no I played last game :) no domination for you :) 07:14:35 <Stablean> <Panda> omg last game was hufe 07:14:37 <Stablean> <Panda> huge 07:14:44 <Stablean> <Panda> with all the colored rails 07:15:27 <V453000> oh you saw it :) 07:15:37 <Stablean> <Panda> just the last few years 07:15:41 <Stablean> <Panda> before the pause 07:15:56 <Stablean> <Panda> the big players are so interesting to watch 07:16:03 <Stablean> <Panda> it's just like 8D 07:16:09 <V453000> :) 07:21:56 <Stablean> <Panda> I just read the whole tutorial savegame and look through the map 07:22:01 <V453000> planetmaker: info cant hurt :) usually 07:22:04 <Stablean> <Panda> so hopefully im not as useless 07:22:11 <V453000> mhm well the tutorial is quite outdated 07:22:21 <V453000> though if you look for real coop, you should join the public server 07:22:43 <Stablean> <Panda> it was private for some reason 07:23:06 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> It's password protected. You find the password on the irc channel 07:23:21 <Stablean> <Panda> ah, so that's what the page for it ment 07:23:36 <Stablean> <Panda> i was like, i can find the server just not the password! 07:23:47 <Stablean> <Panda> the page didnt say the password was on the irc 07:24:06 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> so do you know what to do next? 07:24:12 <Stablean> <Panda> im still farely new to the #openttdcoop comuntiy and page soo... 07:24:27 <V453000> there is IRC button at the top 07:26:18 <Stablean> <Panda> Gotta get irc :P 07:28:32 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> how do you rotate depots? I build one the wrong way. 07:29:07 <Stablean> <Panda> In IRC now! 07:30:40 <V453000> depots have gui 07:30:45 <V453000> just press A 7 and then pick the one you need 07:31:06 <Stablean> <Panda> oh 07:31:08 <Stablean> <Panda> lol 07:31:08 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> figured as much. Too bad I had to waste money on it. 07:31:30 <V453000> not like it is a big investment 07:31:32 <Stablean> <Panda> what does that red rail do? 07:31:32 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> Also, does it help to put a station closer to what it delivers? 07:31:44 <V453000> no 07:32:10 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok, that's an unrealisting but helpful convenience convenient then 07:32:14 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ic 07:32:49 <Stablean> <Panda> forgot to refit wood train xD 07:32:56 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> the red purr line that you were pointing at is a colored train line 07:33:07 <Stablean> <Panda> what does it do? 07:33:41 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> you must have been playing a lot on other servers 07:33:47 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> it connects any kind of line 07:34:05 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> and having multiple colors helps to identify what is delivered along a line 07:34:15 <Stablean> <Panda> ah makes sense 07:34:18 <Stablean> <Panda> is it free? 07:34:38 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I don't know how much it costs but it is not free 07:35:14 <V453000> colored tracks cost extreme amount 07:35:21 <V453000> you should use default rails from the start 07:35:25 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> thanks for telling me 07:35:35 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I regret having used them 07:36:25 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> do you know what streetcars are? 07:36:31 <Stablean> <Panda> yea 07:36:41 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I've never used them 07:37:08 <Stablean> <Panda> i saw them in the #openttdcoop NoGo series on XeryusTC 07:38:40 <Stablean> <Panda> V, how long have you played this game 07:39:00 <V453000> yes 07:39:53 <V453000> ... it doesnt really matter how long you play, it matters where you play, and what you do 07:40:02 <V453000> many people play for e.g. 10 years but know nuffin 07:41:38 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> wow, what a dumb depot builder I have 07:41:48 <Stablean> <Panda> ? 07:42:03 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> lets me build a depot where it's impossible to connect a road to it 07:42:09 <Stablean> <Panda> longer trains are better 07:42:26 <V453000> :( 07:42:27 <Stablean> <Panda> i mean like train tracks 07:42:39 <V453000> 2 tile trains rule the world 07:42:47 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I have too many train tracks, and building lots of trains makes the system confusing 07:42:47 <Stablean> <Panda> lol V 07:43:06 <Stablean> <Panda> i dont think this train can work on the purr tracks 07:43:17 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> and besides, my land is heavily sloped 07:43:34 <V453000> you Cant have "too many" train tracks 07:43:37 <V453000> only not enough 07:43:43 <Stablean> <Panda> ^ 07:43:49 <Stablean> <Panda> trains op 07:44:01 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I have nowhere to put the train station in mudinghead though 07:44:19 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I mean look at it 07:44:21 <Stablean> <Panda> passangers are for lame o's 07:44:31 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I'd have a CL of length 1 or 0 07:44:35 <Stablean> <Panda> use some feeder buses 07:44:37 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> what do you think of that 07:44:41 <Stablean> <Panda> to move them out of towns 07:45:03 <Stablean> <Panda> then it will be fine on top of that hill 07:46:19 <V453000> pick a bigger island bug_sniper :) 07:46:25 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> are you sure 07:46:26 <V453000> or idk, more suitable spot 07:46:41 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> are you sure my island isn't big enough? 07:46:44 <V453000> well I dont see how big one you have now :) 07:46:56 <V453000> well if you cant put a train station there I thought it is too small :) 07:47:17 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I can, but it's too hilly in the city I'm building busses in 07:47:31 <V453000> asdf 07:48:33 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> how much does it slow a train going uphill? 07:48:53 <Stablean> <Panda> none, but consecutive hills will slow 07:50:49 <V453000> depends on many factors 07:50:59 <V453000> train weight, power, tractive effort, amount of hills , ... 07:51:39 <Stablean> <Panda> Hey V? Is Xeryus gonna post anymore videos? his last one was 5 months ago :( 07:53:00 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 07:53:11 <Stablean> <Dom> new map already :( 07:53:13 <Stablean> <Panda> Morning dom 07:53:16 <Stablean> <Dom> hi 07:53:39 <Stablean> <Dom> oh btw V you ever played geocaching or anyone of you guys ? 07:53:41 <V453000> I hope not they arent anyhow useful 07:53:48 <V453000> no I only play beer caching 07:53:58 <Stablean> <Dom> xD 07:54:25 <Stablean> <Dom> loool 07:54:26 <V453000> you have to find a cache, attempt to empty it (so far unsuccessful), then get back home 07:54:45 <Stablean> <Dom> yeah im just reading it for the beer xD 07:54:51 <Stablean> <Dom> its a czech site :D 07:55:04 <V453000> mhm :) I know some friends of mine did that stuf 07:55:31 <Stablean> <Dom> im maybe thinking of going geocashing today for the first time :D 07:56:10 <V453000> aha 07:56:17 <V453000> you will end up in the pub, trust me 07:56:21 <Stablean> <Dom> :D 07:56:35 <Stablean> <Dom> or chillin at the lake 07:56:35 <Stablean> <Panda> is there an IRC for each server? 07:56:39 <Stablean> <Dom> yep 07:56:49 <V453000> yes, #openttdcoop.irc for this one 07:56:49 <Stablean> <Dom> well coop server 07:56:55 <Stablean> <Panda> ty 07:56:55 <V453000> eh 07:57:00 <V453000> yes, #openttdcoop.stable for this one 07:57:03 <V453000> fix :) 07:58:34 <Stablean> <Panda> man, for the first time in my life im gonna say this, i cant load engough wood 07:58:42 <Stablean> <Panda> cuz i love wood 07:59:57 <Stablean> <Panda> this train is not moving :P 08:01:09 <Stablean> <Panda> this train is too heavy 08:01:11 <Stablean> <Panda> :) 08:01:18 <Stablean> <Dom> put a stronger enginge on 08:01:21 <Stablean> <Dom> *engine 08:01:23 <Stablean> <Panda> \ 08:01:25 <Stablean> <Panda> or two? 08:02:33 <V453000> which engine are you using 08:02:38 <V453000> if painkiller, dont be surprised :) 08:02:43 <V453000> the train classes are there for a reason 08:02:55 <Stablean> <Panda> pain, i took off 1 tile of cargo 08:02:57 <Stablean> <Panda> that fixed it 08:03:07 <V453000> :d 08:03:09 <Stablean> <Panda> haha this is a new grf for me soo.... :P 08:03:25 <V453000> still, strong/medium class is generally more useful :) 08:03:39 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> what's a transmitter? 08:03:45 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> and can I use them? 08:03:45 <Stablean> <Panda> so would switching be better for these hills of mine? 08:04:31 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 08:04:55 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 08:04:55 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 08:05:07 <Stablean> <Panda> What IRC are you in V? 08:05:22 <Stablean> <Panda> Like which one do you run? 08:05:47 <Stablean> <Panda> lol 08:05:50 <Stablean> <Panda> fail 08:06:04 <Stablean> *** Panda has changed his/her name to RexConnors 08:10:16 <Stablean> *** Freez has started a new company (#5) 08:10:19 <Stablean> *** Freez joined the game 08:11:25 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 08:12:57 <Stablean> <RexConnors> dat HQ location 'D 08:13:03 <Stablean> <RexConnors> ;D* 08:14:05 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has started a new company (#6) 08:17:44 <V453000> I use our web client 08:18:28 <Stablean> <RexConnors> Ah and when you chat in game here, do you use the server or irc? or are you spectating? 08:18:40 <V453000> both 08:18:48 <V453000> atm I am not spectating :) 08:18:57 <V453000> mostly I do spectate 08:19:24 <Stablean> *** Freez has left the game (leaving) 08:19:44 <Stablean> <RexConnors> i hate airports 08:21:21 <Stablean> *** Toolworx joined the game 08:22:25 <Stablean> *** Toolworx has left the game (leaving) 08:22:31 <V453000> !rcon set max_aircraft 08:22:31 <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'max_aircraft' is: '10' (min: 0, max: 5000) 08:22:33 <V453000> !rcon set max_aircraft 0 08:22:34 <V453000> solved 08:24:34 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> what's better? busses or trains of CL 1? 08:24:49 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> or rather, CL0 08:25:39 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> because the hills keep me from building good train lines 08:26:13 <V453000> there is no CL0 08:26:26 <V453000> you could say that for 90degree curves technically :) 08:26:47 <V453000> see convention http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed 08:27:33 <V453000> still, trains >everything :P 08:28:03 <Stablean> <RexConnors> planes op for fast cash 08:28:07 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok, in that case, I'll send my busses to the depot to be sold, along with the passengers on them 08:28:09 <Stablean> <RexConnors> to start 08:29:22 <V453000> I wasnt talking about profit RexConnors :) 08:29:37 <Stablean> <RexConnors> lol planes ruin all the fun xD 08:29:50 <V453000> they do :) 08:29:54 <V453000> !rcon set max_ships 0 08:30:26 <Stablean> <RexConnors> trains + #openttdcoop = love for life 08:31:08 <V453000> (: 08:31:17 <V453000> seen the blog? 08:31:44 <Stablean> <RexConnors> the 5000+ trains? 08:31:51 <V453000> aye 08:32:02 <V453000> the "+" is a bit harder to do though :P 08:32:05 <Stablean> <RexConnors> dream come true 08:34:35 <Stablean> <RexConnors> Omg v, i dont think i will ever be even good enough at this game to understand those build pics 08:35:35 <Stablean> <RexConnors> omg bug's 08:35:41 <Stablean> <RexConnors> look at profit graph 08:35:43 <Stablean> <RexConnors> :P 08:37:01 <Stablean> <RexConnors> purple, you have a broken signal thing at drudinghattan woods 08:37:04 <Stablean> <RexConnors> train is confused 08:37:41 <V453000> it isnt that hard to understand, especially when you have articles to read it from :P 08:38:00 <Stablean> <RexConnors> dont have time to read them 08:38:06 <Stablean> <RexConnors> must build moar trains 08:38:09 <V453000> :) 08:38:14 <V453000> that helps too 08:38:23 <Stablean> <RexConnors> refiting trains omg 08:38:33 <Stablean> <RexConnors> always forget 08:39:27 <Stablean> <RexConnors> 20,000 left on my loan! 08:39:53 <Stablean> <RexConnors> Good bye loan! 08:43:23 <Stablean> <RexConnors> how do i limit the growth of the town? 08:43:34 <Stablean> <RexConnors> like i dont want it's roads to expand 08:43:41 <Stablean> <RexConnors> but i want it's pop to grow 08:43:51 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> the roads already don't get build automatically here 08:45:12 <V453000> ^ 08:45:27 <Stablean> <RexConnors> how do you see old chat messages? 08:45:30 <V453000> only on the roads you build, the town can/will grow 08:45:39 <V453000> either IRC, or open the console 08:45:42 <V453000> key under Esc 08:46:12 <Stablean> <RexConnors> tidly or whatever it's called 08:46:22 <V453000> idea not 08:46:33 <V453000> just that thing :) 08:47:40 <Stablean> <RexConnors> Im getting a message : AutorenewFailed on train 4, (money limit) 08:47:46 <Stablean> <RexConnors> but i have enough cash 08:48:16 <V453000> it needs more than is really needed 08:48:26 <Stablean> <RexConnors> oh 08:48:32 <Stablean> <RexConnors> thats annoying :P 08:48:38 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 08:48:45 <V453000> idk how exactly it is counted but I think this thing needs at least 1x the cost of the new engine (not considering gain for selling the old one) 08:48:54 <V453000> and maybe there is some multiplier so it isnt 1x 08:49:06 <V453000> you could probably find info about it on wiki.openttd.org 08:49:26 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, V, others and beginners :-) 08:49:31 <V453000> hy 08:49:54 <Stablean> <RexConnors> Hey Anson, are you the bad guy from Burn Notice? Or a different Anson 08:50:02 <V453000> the worst 08:50:08 <Stablean> <RexConnors> D: 08:50:10 <Stablean> <Anson> no idea what burn notice is 08:50:29 <Stablean> <RexConnors> A tv show on the channel USA 08:50:31 <Stablean> <Anson> about the costs of autoxxx : 08:51:05 <Stablean> <Anson> if breakdowns is on (which it never is on this server), you will replace trains, and autoreplace helps with it 08:51:35 <Stablean> <Anson> to not go bankrupt by it, there is a setting in the advanced settings to keep a minimum of money after having replaced a train 08:51:54 <Stablean> <Anson> that setting is also used for autoreplace which we use a lot on this server 08:52:00 <Stablean> <RexConnors> Ah 08:52:31 <Stablean> <RexConnors> like my wood setup Anson? 08:52:41 <Stablean> <RexConnors> pretty beginner but it works for me : 08:52:43 <Stablean> <RexConnors> :P 08:52:55 <Stablean> <Anson> you should just ignore old trains and keep autoRENEW off, but can adjust the amount of money 08:53:17 <Stablean> <RexConnors> oh, no i was switching engine types 08:54:07 <Stablean> <Anson> besides the many visible depots, it looks not too bad :-) 08:54:45 <Stablean> <Anson> with "breakdowns off", trains will never go for maintenance (except when autoreplacing), and thus you don't need so many depots 08:55:19 <Stablean> <RexConnors> oh 08:55:19 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> anson, would it be best if I build a second train line between my oil wells and my refinery, are are double stations enough? 08:55:37 <Stablean> <RexConnors> haha first time on a #openttdcoop server for me 08:55:37 <Stablean> <Anson> why do you put so many 2way signals on a one-rail track (for Deninghall Woods) ? 08:55:51 <Stablean> <RexConnors> idk lol 08:56:21 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I put lots of 2 way signals too, until Anson corrects me 08:56:28 <Stablean> <Anson> if you have only one train on that route, the signals are not needed ... and if you have more than 1, they will deadlock when facing each other 08:56:55 <Stablean> <RexConnors> haha ctrl drag force of habbi 08:57:01 <Stablean> <RexConnors> habbit 08:57:55 <Stablean> <Anson> Wufingpool Woods : no access for incoming trains to one of the platforms (one railpiece missing) 08:58:49 <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#7) 08:58:57 <Stablean> <RexConnors> anson, go easy on us 08:59:17 <Stablean> <Anson> do you know how to use signs ? 08:59:19 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> Anson, is my red line ok, or does it need a parallel track in addition to the stations? 08:59:22 <Stablean> <RexConnors> no 08:59:41 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 08:59:50 <Stablean> <Anson> you can set signs on the map to show specific locations, or do comments 09:00:04 <Stablean> <RexConnors> Anson, you're a women... 09:00:14 <Stablean> <Anson> click on the map icon and hold the mouse button to get a list of all signs 09:00:38 <Stablean> <Anson> then you can click any sign to scroll the map to that location 09:00:44 <Stablean> <Anson> no, I'm not 09:00:55 <Stablean> *** Nigil has left the game (processing map took too long) 09:00:55 <Stablean> *** Nigil has left the game (connection lost) 09:00:59 <Stablean> <RexConnors> no, you president hahaha 09:01:05 <Stablean> <RexConnors> you're 09:01:20 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 09:01:28 <Stablean> <Anson> you can edit and delete all signs when they are not longer needed 09:01:42 <Stablean> <RexConnors> Ah 09:01:42 <Stablean> <Anson> to delete your own signs, just ctrl-click on them 09:02:00 <Stablean> <RexConnors> That's helpful, didnt know how to place them :P 09:02:03 <Stablean> <RexConnors> god im such a noob 09:02:17 <Stablean> <Anson> btw: CTRL is the most important key in ottd ... it doubles the available functions of almost anything 09:02:31 <Stablean> <Anson> default to place signs: key O 09:02:51 <Stablean> *** GG joined the game 09:03:32 <Stablean> <Anson> most people in ottd drive on the right side ... it is your personal taste, but might confuse other people if you play together in one company 09:04:11 <Stablean> <RexConnors> Yea im american so right is norm for me :P 09:04:57 *** Mks has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:04:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mks 09:04:57 <Stablean> <Anson> did you try signs ? 09:05:21 <Stablean> <RexConnors> No, why would i need too atm? 09:05:39 <Stablean> <Anson> because i put a sign where you are missing a railpiece 09:05:55 <Stablean> <RexConnors> lol 09:06:05 <Stablean> <RexConnors> silly me 09:06:15 <Stablean> <Anson> and it is not the entry to the station as i wrote, but the exit ... was confused by your left driving 09:06:37 <Stablean> <RexConnors> lol 09:06:51 <Stablean> <RexConnors> well, i g2g, thanks for the tips guys 09:06:54 <Stablean> <Anson> at Great Grenningville Woods, you need different signaling 09:07:12 <Stablean> <RexConnors> ? 09:07:14 <Stablean> <Anson> trains will wait at the entry signal if both platforms are used 09:07:29 <Stablean> <Anson> and that includes trains that should continue on the single track 09:07:59 <Stablean> <RexConnors> ther 09:08:09 <Stablean> <Anson> works now ... 09:08:16 <Stablean> <RexConnors> thanks for the help Anson and V! 09:08:28 <Stablean> <Anson> just a hint : build tracks always so that at least one full train can go there and wait 09:08:43 <Stablean> <RexConnors> oh thanks m8 09:08:45 <Stablean> <Anson> then it won't block following trains when it itself is stopped 09:09:09 <Stablean> *** RexConnors has left the game (leaving) 09:09:45 <Stablean> <Anson> another hint for farms : build separate stations for different cargoes ... tghat applies to all pickup stations 09:09:59 <Stablean> <Anson> it's easier to handle later 09:10:33 <Stablean> *** GG has left the game (leaving) 09:10:48 <Stablean> *** Muel joined the game 09:11:53 <Stablean> <Anson> and now sniper .... 09:12:36 <Stablean> <Anson> since costs can differ from one map to the other, i always look at the grf settings forst, eg for the basecost grf :-) 09:13:24 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 09:13:55 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (leaving) 09:13:59 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, Muell 09:14:25 <Stablean> <Anson> sniper, are you still there ? 09:16:51 <Mks> !date 09:16:51 <Stablean> Mks: 18 Aug 1934 09:20:36 <Stablean> <Anson> bug_sniper ? 09:21:03 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yes 09:21:21 <Stablean> <Anson> you don't read chat ? :-) 09:21:35 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I was focosing on what I was doing 09:21:37 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> sorry 09:21:39 <Stablean> <Anson> unless your name is mentioned in the full form ... 09:22:01 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> as you may know, that's because my irc client hilights my name 09:22:06 <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game 09:22:23 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> so when it's said, my client flashed and I'm more likely to hear you 09:22:41 <Stablean> <Anson> since i can't talk with several people at the same time (at least not something helpful), i first finished the other one before looking closer at your tracks ... some signs on the red track 09:23:07 <Stablean> <Anson> maybe, you should add bug and sniper to the keywords in your client :-) 09:23:17 <Stablean> <Mks> no coal? 09:23:21 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 09:23:45 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I'll highlight sniper for now 09:24:04 <Stablean> *** Mks has started a new company (#8) 09:24:09 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> not bug because then people will talk about all these bugs and disturb me a lot 09:24:24 <Stablean> <Anson> i also have added amson to the keywords on my phone, since someone once always mistyped the name :-) 09:25:14 <Stablean> <Anson> you see the signs with hints, what you did ? 09:25:33 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 09:25:51 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok, so I need to pick a direction 09:26:01 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> for each side of the railing 09:26:28 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> and it's too bad the x button hides signs 09:26:30 <Stablean> <Anson> a single depot for both rails in the middle of a track later will also cause problems ... one train at that location stops trains goind the opposite direction 09:26:48 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 09:26:55 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> well, I saw that on youtube videos 09:27:29 <Stablean> <Anson> you can open the transparency settings and switch each one on or off: click and hold mousebutton on the third icon (settings) 09:28:07 <Stablean> <Anson> forget 99.9% of what people do in youtube videos ... i sometimes watch them to see how stupidly people build :-) 09:28:41 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 09:28:53 <Stablean> <Anson> i only saw one really important hint in all of them: "forget what all the other videos tell you" :-) 09:29:28 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok, I'll start by deleting a few t way signals 09:31:03 <Stablean> <Anson> it is good to have space for breaking in front of a station, but too much space will take additional time to enter and leave 09:34:33 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I can't put the x there 09:34:47 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> because of the height difference 09:35:13 <Stablean> <Anson> until you have enough money to TF, just put it at the station without break space 09:36:31 <Stablean> <Anson> btw: each rail piece costs the same amount of money ... thus having the X in red costs a total of 6 times the price of a single tile railpiece 09:36:41 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 09:37:15 <Stablean> <Anson> same for the stations ... 3 railpieces on one tile = 3 times the price 09:37:53 <Stablean> <Anson> you will need universal rails only much later when you want to upgrade from rails to mono or maglev 09:38:04 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 09:38:18 <Stablean> <Anson> until then, universal rails (including purr) are nice but not needed and too costly 09:38:24 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> well, that's acutally an apartment complex you're suggesting to delete 09:39:14 <Stablean> <Anson> then delete the stupid road at sign "X" too, and let them build a new house there :-) 09:40:08 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> also, there's not much room to build stations, because most of the land is sloped 09:40:22 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I mean, I could make is a circle 09:40:29 <Stablean> <Anson> if you really want to grow a town, and also automatically over time, a single building doesn't count, unless it is a bank or other shop ... or you need it to get more than 8/8 goods total near your station so that it accepts goods 09:42:23 <Stablean> <Anson> not as easy as a perfectly flat world, but not bad either if you plan a bit before building 09:42:35 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yes 09:44:01 <Stablean> <Anson> look at theworld map first, switch to "show indistries", and select which are plenty, and which have a producing and a consuming building ... 09:45:01 <Stablean> <Anson> you also don't need to build drop and pickup next to each other, and should not build a single station for both 09:45:52 <Stablean> <Anson> you easily can build a 2-platform station for drop where you now have the station at the oil drop, and a multi platform station on the opposite side 09:46:22 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I don't understand 09:47:02 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I guess I can do that, but how do you split a station? 09:47:08 <Stablean> <Anson> look at the signs ... puickup and drop ... need (and should) not be next to each other when space is tight 09:47:35 <Stablean> <Anson> start by building two stations :-) 09:50:42 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> oops 09:52:22 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I'd like to be able to get out of this mess without smashing my trains 09:54:56 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok, so that passenger route seems to be working now 09:55:57 <Stablean> *** {[FR]Syl59} joined the game 09:56:00 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi all 09:56:10 <Stablean> <Mks> hello 09:58:56 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 10:01:12 <Stablean> *** {[FR]Syl59} has started a new company (#9) 10:02:28 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> damn inflation ... 10:04:50 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> why can't I build signals on a bridge? 10:05:08 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> because, as alaways, there is no sinals on a bridge 10:05:34 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see. And why can't I refund my bridges? 10:05:56 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> what do you mean by "refunding" ? 10:06:18 <V453000> srsly just accept that it is that way 10:06:18 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> get the money back for a bridge I placed but don't need 10:06:32 <V453000> "why" questions arent very useful :P 10:06:42 <V453000> also why should you be allowed to refund a bridge 10:06:44 <V453000> :> 10:07:03 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> listen to him :) 10:09:13 <Stablean> <Anson> the work to destroy a bridge costs more than the worth of its building materials ... thus you have to pay for it 10:09:27 <Stablean> <Anson> (if you need a reallife reason) 10:09:54 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> because the construction company neglected to inform me that there wasn't going to be room to place the signal that was part of the contract 10:09:55 <V453000> REALISM COMPATIBLE 10:10:11 <V453000> construction company is a bitch, deal with it 10:10:20 <V453000> they also didnt inform you you cant put slugs on the bridge 10:10:24 <V453000> or can you 10:10:30 <Stablean> <Anson> but at least you will get some free space, a nicer landscape, and also maintenance costs will be lower, after you have deleted it 10:11:32 <Stablean> <Anson> if the bridge is not too rusty, but maybe a bit wet, there probably will be slugs on bridges all by themselves :-) 10:11:51 <V453000> k 10:12:08 <V453000> I didnt mean those slugs :P 10:12:52 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok, so how do you build railroad crossings next to eachother so they don't deadlock? 10:12:54 <Stablean> <Anson> sniper: YOU are the architect, YOU are the construction company, YOU draw the plans ... ottd only shows you what workers will have built when following YOUR plans :-) 10:13:32 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> my plans involve putting signals on bridges whether the UI lets me or not 10:13:54 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> (poor V xD) 10:14:50 <Stablean> <Anson> you draw with some predefined patterns ... and they don't include signals on bridges, signals in tunnels, diagonal bridges, diagonal tunnels, etc 10:15:04 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> and if they also involve putting garden snail on the bridge, why should anyone a computer program stand in the way? 10:16:42 <V453000> what [FR]Syl59? :) 10:16:51 <V453000> you EAT snails, you shouldnt even talk :P 10:16:54 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Nothing V, nothing :) 10:20:56 <Stablean> *** [FR]Syl59 has left the game (leaving) 10:23:36 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I don't eat snail. I just work at a snail's pace. 10:28:43 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 10:34:29 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:35:51 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> can cities make houses on top of trees? 10:37:11 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> that was unpleasant. Can someone help me fix that railroad? 10:38:46 <Stablean> <Anson> which railroad ? 10:38:54 <Stablean> <Anson> put a sign on it 10:38:56 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> nevermind, not my railroad 10:39:30 <Stablean> <Anson> the crash ? ... that was mine 10:39:40 <Stablean> <Anson> i messed up and start over 10:40:03 <Stablean> <Anson> didn't notice that the oil refinery was gone just when i started delivering oil :-( 10:40:49 <Stablean> <Anson> always happens to me at least once per game that something vanishes just when i start using it ... and when it is the first line, i only am left with loan and thusstart over 10:40:55 <Stablean> <Mks> I noticed industries close down really fast here 10:41:54 <Stablean> <Anson> sniper, you have buses ... do you want to grow that town ? 10:42:17 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I'm working on making money with those busses actually 10:42:31 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> but I might as well grow it too 10:42:45 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> so do I have to take out the trees for it to grow? 10:43:11 <Stablean> <Anson> open the town's window : there are max 156 pax per month and you are transporting 100 10:43:41 <Stablean> <Anson> three buses are good enough for 100 pax, but it doesn't take them a full month for a round trip 10:44:00 <Stablean> <Anson> 1-2 probably would be good enough 10:44:10 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok, I have 5 now 10:45:01 <Stablean> <Anson> watch the loading indicators ... you might accidentally have switched them off : transparency options -> rightm,ost icon 10:45:19 <Stablean> <Anson> then you can see how much percentage they load and unload 10:45:26 <Stablean> <Anson> how fast they load and unload 10:45:44 <Stablean> <Anson> and if they are not almost full all the time, you have too many of them :-) 10:47:07 <Stablean> <Anson> you can also open the road vehicles window where all of them are shown ... easy to see whether they make profit 10:49:26 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok, 2 busses seem to be enough 10:49:38 <Stablean> <Anson> also watch the stations .... Slonhattan Central just had 30 pax when the first bus finished its roundtrip ... the bus can take 35 pax, and thus the other two buses follow the first one without transporting more than 1-2 pax only ... 10:50:08 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yeah 10:50:11 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I noticed 10:50:17 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> so now there are only 2 busses 10:50:29 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I'd also like to expand that town 10:50:55 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> so can towns build houses over trees? 10:50:57 <Stablean> <Anson> there is also a "caravan" effect : when the first bus load/unloads many pax, it takes a while ... a second which follows will be faster loading and unloading the fewer pax 10:51:19 <Stablean> <Anson> thus the following bus always catches up more and more until they drive together 10:51:49 <Stablean> <Anson> towns build houses where they want :-) 10:52:03 <Stablean> <Anson> as long as it is directly next to a road 10:52:09 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> even on farms? 10:52:39 <Stablean> <Anson> and on this server, they never build roads by themselves, to avoid having a flat town all across the map after 200 years 10:53:02 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> but can they make houses on farms? 10:53:04 <Stablean> <Anson> on industry buildings: no ... but on farm fields, grass, etc 10:53:42 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 10:53:59 <Stablean> <Anson> you also should watch the catchment area when you build bus stations ... there is a switch to show that area 10:55:21 <Stablean> <Anson> road stations have 3 tiles range, and thus you should build them 7 tiles apart for best coverage of a town ... and maybe use 4 stations with 1 bus for each pair to avoid the caravan effect 10:55:55 <Stablean> <Anson> or put a "full load" order on the station that has more pax 10:56:09 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok 10:58:32 <Stablean> <Anson> if you do it more often, you will see where buses go ... that they don't like to turn around on a road and rather "go around the block" ... 10:59:10 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> so they have a preference to go around a block? 10:59:24 <Stablean> <Anson> that is helpful if you build roads and can make it so that buses take a specific rout instead of going a long way into dead ends, etc 10:59:43 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 11:00:25 <Stablean> <Anson> build a road directly next to the station, on the slope ... and buses will go a long way ... 11:00:51 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yes, I'm not building a road over there 11:01:05 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I actually had to destroy that road for that reason 11:01:19 <Stablean> <Anson> it is also the reason why they always enter the depot: they follow the road after loading at Slonhattan, and that leads them into the depot 11:01:30 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yeah 11:01:33 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> that's fine with me 11:02:24 <Stablean> <Anson> it takes a bit of time to go to the depot, and i hate the noise from RVs leaving the depot too often :-) 11:03:27 <V453000> omg nerds with sound on :) 11:04:14 <Stablean> <Anson> when the town grows along the new roads, you can use the currently bad effects, to make buses go around faster, ag by finishing the circle at the south, to go around instead of traveling all the way back 11:04:35 <planetmaker> hm. does NUTS have sound? Should it get nerdy animal sounds? 11:04:55 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> and when that happens, I'll make loops for the busses 11:05:02 <Stablean> <Anson> i would be interested in the sound of snails :-) 11:05:29 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I'm not sure why we even started talking about snails 11:07:24 <Stablean> <Anson> no matter what their stats are ... i like those doubledecker buses ... and even more so with that color ... looks like next corner where i live :-) 11:07:54 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> they look like schoolbusses 11:08:31 <V453000> planetmaker: it doesnt and as I do not use sound in openttd, it is highly unlikely it gets some :P 11:08:34 <Stablean> <Anson> ours are a bit lighter, more pale yellow than orange, but that's ok 11:08:52 <planetmaker> :-) 11:09:14 <Stablean> <Anson> and we have double deckers ... no orange school buses over here at all 11:09:57 <Stablean> <Anson> there aren't many towns in the world with doubledeckers !? 11:10:08 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> so what was it you said about using parallel train lines? I think one is enough for my goods. 11:11:38 <Stablean> <Anson> currently, you have not much traffic and production is low ... but later you will need more trains and then need a double track to go back and forth without problems ... and that is best planned in advance 11:12:00 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 11:12:43 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> as for the city, are the double tracks helping to transport passengers? 11:13:11 <Stablean> <Anson> only if trains would queue or be blocked when not using them 11:13:51 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I guess it's helping the rating a little bit 11:13:53 <Stablean> <Anson> the town only cares for the number of pax that you transport, how often you go to the stations, and how many stations you have 11:14:15 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM has started a new company (#10) 11:14:18 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM joined the game 11:14:45 <Stablean> <[RO] RTM> hi all 11:14:59 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> hi RO 11:15:01 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators 11:20:13 <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#7) 11:21:04 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 11:21:13 <Stablean> *** {[RO]} RTM has changed his/her name to RTM 11:21:46 <V453000> :DDD 11:31:23 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (general timeout) 11:31:23 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (connection lost) 11:45:34 <Stablean> *** {[FR]Syl59} joined the game 11:45:46 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi all 11:46:05 <Stablean> <RTM> hi [FR]Syl59 11:52:01 <V453000> hyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 11:52:06 <V453000> also a bit of moo 11:52:12 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:55:52 <Dom_> !plyercount 11:55:56 <Dom_> !playercount 11:55:56 <Stablean> Dom_: Number of players: 5 (0 spectators) 11:56:31 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 11:56:34 <Stablean> <Dom> hey 11:56:39 <V453000> oyo 11:56:42 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi Dom 11:56:56 <Stablean> <Dom> found my first 2 caches :D:D 11:57:08 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#11) 11:57:24 <V453000> half liters? 11:57:24 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 11:57:32 <Stablean> <Dom> they werent beer :D 11:57:50 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#12) 11:57:53 <V453000> that doesnt make sense 12:08:04 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I think I'm doing my transfers wrong 12:08:43 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> What transfert are you talking about ? 12:08:49 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> to transfer, do you make multiple bus stations and a train station united unter a single name? 12:08:51 <V453000> the wrong ones 12:09:02 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I know V but ... xDDDD 12:09:14 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> at that sign 12:09:24 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Of course 12:09:50 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> so you mean that I should take out the bus stations and replace them? 12:10:22 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> No, your unload station must have the same name than the strain station 12:10:40 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> lol strain stations 12:10:43 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> see "!here" 12:10:50 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Woops 12:11:00 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok, I see 12:14:35 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok, thanks 12:20:29 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 12:20:31 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#11) 12:20:53 <Stablean> <RTM> hi Dom 12:20:55 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #12 12:20:57 <Stablean> <Dom> hi 12:20:59 <Stablean> <Dom> :D 12:21:14 <Stablean> <RTM> :) 12:31:18 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 12:32:46 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> wow, what a name, sadborough 12:34:18 * V453000 is sad too 12:34:41 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> sad because I used a single track railroad? 12:34:46 <Stablean> *** King Peky joined the game 12:34:48 <Stablean> <King Peky> Hello 12:34:50 <V453000> hi 12:35:04 <Stablean> <RTM> hi V4530000 12:35:10 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi 12:35:25 <V453000> .. 12:35:55 <Stablean> <Dom> hi V :D 12:36:21 <Stablean> *** Muel joined the game 12:36:59 <V453000> [foreigners will forgive] náhoda :) 12:37:18 <Stablean> *** Einspruch has started a new company (#11) 12:37:21 <Stablean> *** Einspruch joined the game 12:37:22 <Stablean> <King Peky> :D 12:37:41 <Dom_> xD 12:37:49 <Stablean> <King Peky> Stalking .. :D 12:37:55 <Dom_> pfft I'm no accident.. 12:38:10 <Stablean> <Muel> hou 12:38:11 <V453000> hideous bitch has translator! 12:38:18 <Stablean> <Dom> google :D 12:53:05 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (leaving) 12:53:43 <Stablean> *** paczproPL joined the game 12:53:49 <Stablean> <paczproPL> hello 12:53:51 <Stablean> <Dom> yo 12:54:39 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 12:54:41 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#13) 12:54:54 <Stablean> *** paczproPL has left the game (leaving) 12:54:58 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #12 12:55:20 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #13 12:55:40 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #12 12:55:54 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 12:56:10 <Stablean> <RTM> hi thepower12n 13:03:21 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has joined company #6 13:04:17 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> syl59, you can take your station off my land now 13:04:32 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> done :) 13:04:49 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> and the other station 13:10:43 <Stablean> *** King Peky has left the game (leaving) 13:20:57 <Stablean> <Mks> why do industries with service shut down 13:21:19 <V453000> blame meech for sure 13:21:44 <Stablean> <Mks> I was doing like 70% service and the forest shut down anyways 13:23:34 <V453000> yep 13:23:36 <V453000> typical meech 13:23:54 <Stablean> <Mks> what do you mean by that? 13:24:36 <V453000> ); 13:25:14 <Stablean> <Dom> blame canada 13:28:30 <V453000> boring they will thank you for it 13:30:11 <Stablean> *** Supun411 has left the game (processing map took too long) 13:30:11 <Stablean> *** Supun411 has left the game (connection lost) 13:45:03 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 13:45:05 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#13) 13:45:13 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #12 13:57:21 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> finally, my first train interchange 13:57:43 <V453000> 4990 trains to go 13:57:52 <V453000> :P 13:58:04 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I have 18 actually 13:58:08 <Stablean> <Dom> ? 13:58:36 <V453000> k 4982 13:58:49 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> has anyone ever build 5000 trains? 13:59:32 <V453000> :) 13:59:38 <Stablean> *** [FR]Syl59 has left the game (leaving) 14:00:00 <V453000> mysterious question nobody can ever answer 14:11:44 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 14:18:06 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:21:53 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> RTM Mega, can I send diamonds to you? 14:23:15 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> actually, is anyone online right now? 14:23:21 <Stablean> <Einspruch> yeah 14:23:59 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> do I have to ask before I build a boatway between my city and a neighbor's city that is close together when we both have banks? 14:24:25 <Stablean> <Einspruch> i dont ask, but i dont know the rules 14:24:39 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> the other option would be to build in inconveniently long train tracks 14:24:47 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> to my city on the other side 14:24:58 <V453000> good solution to knowing rules usually is reading them :) 14:25:05 <Stablean> <Einspruch> i would do that, that makes a lot more money 14:25:20 <bug_sniper_> !rules 14:25:20 <Stablean> bug_sniper_: Rules are at http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart/Stable 14:25:43 <Stablean> <RTM> 2nd generation of cargoes avable 14:27:13 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> the rules say I should ask 14:27:35 <Stablean> <Einspruch> no answer means yes 14:28:31 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> well, I can't build waterways yet 14:28:45 <Stablean> <Einspruch> i can 14:29:04 <Stablean> <Anson> what do you mean by waterway ? wet tracks ? 14:29:11 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> boats 14:29:45 <Stablean> <Anson> if you mean ships : you can probably can build ports and airports, but the max number of ships and planes is ZERO on this map 14:29:55 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> oh 14:30:08 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> that explains why 14:30:57 <Stablean> <Anson> when you start a new map, you should check the advanced settings for a few parameters, eg number of trains, max length of trains, max station spread, max bridge length and max tunnel length 14:31:11 <Stablean> <RTM> hi Anson 14:31:17 <V453000> max tunnel length is always high 14:31:20 <V453000> no reason not to be rly 14:31:38 <Stablean> <Einspruch> can the buss limit a bit higher? 14:32:10 <V453000> no 14:32:14 <V453000> use trains 14:32:48 <Stablean> <Einspruch> i tryd, but they dont want to use roads 14:33:06 <Stablean> <Anson> 5-10 RV should be good enough to start growing a town ... if there are more pax later, local train service might be better suited since roads would be jammed very soon 14:33:08 <V453000> then dont use roards :) 14:33:40 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> what if trains have a negative profit? 14:33:51 <Stablean> <Einspruch> why may i not build airports and pink may 14:34:26 <V453000> who cares about profit 14:34:51 <V453000> Einspruch there is a setting which disables your building tools when you cant build any vehicles of that kind 14:34:54 <V453000> same for ships/canals 14:35:39 <Stablean> <Einspruch> thanks, but when will the first planes be available for me 14:35:45 <V453000> never 14:37:24 <Stablean> <Anson> just like sim city, ottd has no fixed goal but it is what people want to do ... thus profit is not important, as V says, with one exception that is hard to believe for V: at the beginning of a new company or when you only want to build a small network and/or small trains, it is hard to not go bankrupt 14:37:26 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> V, what's your company name? 14:37:46 <V453000> yes 14:37:52 <Stablean> <Anson> i think the name is "IRC wile working" ? :-) 14:38:02 <V453000> while rendering :) 14:38:43 <V453000> also I really dont understand how do you go bankrupt Anson 14:38:46 <V453000> I really dont 14:39:06 <Stablean> <Anson> ps: if you check advanced options, set expert/all settings at the top to see all options :-) 14:39:21 <Stablean> <Mks> in some games its easy to go bankrupt like when running and building costs are silly high 14:39:30 <V453000> bug_sniper, it is rare I play on this server :) 14:39:41 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> that explains why I never see you 14:39:44 <V453000> well yes Mks 14:39:58 <V453000> last game I did :) so you cant complain :> 14:40:01 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I was hoping I could show you my first train intersection 14:40:14 <V453000> perhaps when I get home in the evening 14:40:28 <Stablean> *** KPG joined the game 14:40:31 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok 14:40:42 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> Anson, how do you know which trains to use? 14:40:55 <V453000> nuts.openttdcoop.org knows :P 14:41:03 <V453000> ... /wiki 14:41:04 <V453000> :) 14:41:05 <Stablean> <Einspruch> always choose the fastest train 14:41:15 <Stablean> <Mks> not really 14:41:21 <Stablean> <Mks> specially not with nuts 14:41:25 <V453000> this train set will show you that it isnt the most fortunate solution Einspruch 14:41:27 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I've been using medium trains 14:41:31 <Stablean> <Anson> play often and long until you know it :-) 14:41:34 <planetmaker> tehehe :-) <3 NUTS 14:41:36 <V453000> medium is always good 14:42:19 <Stablean> <Anson> when nuts was new to me, i had some problems too at first, but the system of nuts trains is easy to see when you are not colorblind :-) 14:43:49 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> Anson, my trains did something while I wasn't paying attention 14:43:51 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 14:44:00 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> can you help me sort out this problem? 14:44:10 <Stablean> <Anson> let's say "medium is always not bad" :-) ... 14:44:20 <V453000> if you are a beginner, medium or strong class is very good, but if you want to experiment just see the wiki and you can easily read which train is effective for what 14:44:38 <Stablean> <Anson> which trains ? where ? 14:44:44 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> at the sign 14:44:51 <Stablean> <Mks> wrong signlas 14:45:09 <Stablean> <Mks> either use pre signlas or pbs 14:45:11 <Stablean> <Mks> at station 14:45:50 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, you forgotz to place an entry signal, and thus trains entered the block although there was no free exit from it 14:46:54 <Stablean> <Anson> but you used 2way block signals everywhere again ... now you see in practise that that is not a good idea as soon as you have nore trains 14:47:06 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yeah 14:47:08 <Stablean> <Mks> also I'd suggest using one station for grain and one for livestock 14:47:18 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> just at the stations though 14:47:40 <Stablean> <Anson> to solve the problem, stop trains 18 and/or 20 so that they don't advance more 14:47:42 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> can you find room to put stations for the grain and livestock? 14:48:08 <Stablean> <Anson> then turn around 14 and stop it 14:48:18 <Stablean> <Mks> well you can always tf 1 tile to make room for another station 14:48:29 <Stablean> <Anson> then place a signal behind 19, and reverse it 14:48:35 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I have an idea 14:48:46 <Stablean> <Anson> that should give enough space for the train to leave the station 14:48:48 <Stablean> <Mks> by pressing ctrl while placing station you may place a seperate station right next to another station 14:49:14 <Stablean> <Anson> and then replace the signals by entry and oneway signals before you start all trains again 14:50:08 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> like that one? 14:50:44 <Stablean> <Anson> i just told a general solution how to go about such jams ... in this special case, it would have been possible to add more rail on the other side of the station to serve as a waiting bay for the stuck train 14:52:00 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> do I need exit signals? 14:52:18 <Stablean> <Anson> if you have bad signals, stop trains until the problem is fixed, else you get the same problem again when it takes longer 14:52:40 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok 14:53:14 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has started a new company (#13) 14:53:17 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 14:53:18 <Stablean> <Anson> and send the trains to depot until done 14:54:01 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I'm grouping themm right now 14:54:08 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> so that I can stop them 14:54:14 <Stablean> <Anson> you know how to send a train to depot ? 14:54:44 <Stablean> <Anson> open the train's window ... right side, second icon from top : send to depot 14:55:38 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> they are all going to the depot right now 14:56:08 <Stablean> <Anson> to change a signal, CTRL-CLICK on it while you are in signal building mode 14:56:38 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> are those the right signals? 14:56:41 <Stablean> <Anson> no need to delete them or the entire rail ... that often causes crashes 14:57:19 <Stablean> <Anson> if you have enabled the option to toggle through all available signals, this will be the order : 14:57:33 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I use the signal selection window 14:57:45 <Stablean> <Anson> block, entry, exit, combo, 2way pbs, 1way pbs 14:58:04 <Stablean> <Anson> same order in the signal gui 14:58:06 <V453000> mooo mooo mooo mooo moo 14:58:11 <V453000> you have just witnessed cows going home 14:58:11 <V453000> bai 14:58:22 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> you can tell me if they are correct now 14:58:54 <Stablean> <Anson> and they all have tool tips ... with an option you can set whether to appear after some time, or whether you have to rightclick the icon to show the tooltip 14:59:24 <Stablean> <Anson> one moo for each purr ? .-) 15:00:22 <Stablean> <Anson> use the query icon at the top to see what type of signal you placed 15:00:44 <Stablean> <Anson> you now have only normal block signals everywhere 15:01:22 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok, just with a new signal doesn't replace it 15:01:24 <Stablean> <Anson> ctrl-click them once to get entry, ctrl-click twice to get exit 15:01:39 <Stablean> <Anson> don't you read what i write ? 15:01:57 <Stablean> <Anson> CTRL-CLICK to toggle through the different signals 15:02:03 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I know 15:02:13 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> that's another way to do it, perhaps sometimes safer 15:02:23 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> did that fix the problem? 15:02:31 <Stablean> <Anson> what is safer ? 15:02:53 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> cycling through them is safer when there are moving trains 15:04:19 <Stablean> <Anson> the second signal is stull wron ... i placed an example of the correct one next to it ... 10 minutes ago 15:05:18 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> what second signal 15:06:17 <Stablean> <Anson> there are labels .... "still wrong", "like this 1way entry" 15:07:15 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> that one? 15:08:45 <Stablean> <Anson> just remember what a track is :-) ... a track is one or more blocks, and blocks are separated by block signals ... in each block there may be one train at a time only 15:09:07 <Stablean> <Anson> that applies to the block signals which are good enough most of the time 15:10:17 <Stablean> <Anson> if you want a train to stop in front of a block that currently has no way to leave it again (like in front of that station), you need to put up an ENTRY signal where the train enters the block, and an exit signal where the train might leave 15:11:04 <Stablean> <Anson> if all exit signals are red, the entry signal will also be red (in addition to the case that there is a train in that block which always turns the signals red) 15:11:06 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 15:12:36 <Stablean> <Anson> if there are several 1way signals, the train picks what it thinks to be the "best" path and then stops at the signal if it is red 15:12:55 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 15:13:05 <Stablean> <Anson> if there are 2way signals instead, the train will not go to (and stop) red signals, but will look for an alternative 15:13:07 <Stablean> *** KPG has started a new company (#14) 15:13:27 <Stablean> <Anson> thus the train will use a free platform when you have the two 2way signals there 15:14:17 <Stablean> <Anson> release the trains from depot now :-) 15:15:19 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:15:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 15:15:54 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 15:15:56 <Stablean> <V453000> moo 15:15:59 <Stablean> <V453000> cows came home 15:16:25 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> were they supposed to be 2 way exit signals? 15:16:39 <Stablean> <Anson> sniper, do you have a missing rail, or is that on purpose (see sign) 15:17:13 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I'm not sure what's going on 15:17:35 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> and are the exit signals supposed to have 2 lights? 15:17:43 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> this one has 2 red lights 15:19:22 <Stablean> <Anson> the looks of signals are different all the time, depending on the used grf 15:20:45 <Stablean> <Anson> the upper row in the signal gui are alternate looks for the same signals ... in standard ottd they are semaphores with moving arms ... here they now are the nuts signals that are also used for wet tracks 15:21:23 <Stablean> <Anson> train 19 is waiting at a wrong 1way signal 15:21:30 <Stablean> *** RTM has left the game (general timeout) 15:21:30 <Stablean> *** RTM has left the game (connection lost) 15:21:50 <Stablean> <Anson> should be a 2way exit instead of a 1way block 15:21:58 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 15:24:40 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 15:28:33 <Stablean> <Anson> bug_sniper ?!?!?! 15:28:38 <bug_sniper_> yes 15:28:47 <bug_sniper_> sorry, took something to eat 15:28:49 <Stablean> <Anson> do you play or are afk ? 15:29:09 <Stablean> <Anson> you have the same signal problem again ... at another station 15:29:31 <Stablean> <Anson> trains are stuck there, and i wrote that 10 minutes ago :-) 15:30:47 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> that doesn't seem to have hixed it 15:30:53 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> fixed 15:31:23 <Stablean> <Anson> you changed signals ... probably the train passed the block when you were not yet done 15:31:42 <Stablean> <Anson> no, something else ... strange 15:32:24 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> should I build another doghouse for these mutts? 15:33:19 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined company #3 15:35:08 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> go ahead 15:35:23 <Stablean> *** KPG has left the game (leaving) 15:36:43 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I guess that's a good reason to use planes and not trains, huh? 15:37:53 <Stablean> <Anson> planes can get lost too, they can crash, and planes have a range that doesn't make it easy either 15:38:11 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has joined spectators 15:38:13 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has started a new company (#15) 15:38:25 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> how do you get a plane crash? 15:38:35 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> or a boat crash for that matter? 15:38:55 <Stablean> <Anson> also they are more costly (even in standard game), have lower capacity, and landing and starting takes mich longer ... and you can have only few airports per city, unlike a big number of platforms 15:38:57 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has joined company #13 15:39:13 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has joined company #15 15:39:38 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> well, sometimes boats are good 15:39:50 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> and what did you do do fix the problem? 15:40:00 <Stablean> <Anson> unless the option is switched off, panes have a basic low chance to crash on every landing, and jet planes crash quite often on small airports 15:40:14 <Stablean> <Anson> the problem is not yet fixed 15:40:33 <Stablean> <Anson> there only were not several trains at the same time to show it 15:42:31 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> well, a lot of trains are trying to stop in depots right now 15:42:38 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:42:41 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> and are going in and out of them 15:42:59 <Stablean> <Anson> OH ... the train has bad orders !!!! 15:43:25 <Stablean> <Anson> thus he is lost and lost trains always pick random directions 15:43:49 <Stablean> <Anson> probably the same reason ... lost trains 15:44:15 <Stablean> <Anson> look at orders of train 20 ... where is it stuck now, and where does it want to go ? 15:44:49 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> it's going back and forth 15:45:17 <Stablean> <Anson> reason probably is the missing rail, that i have told you about and also marked with a sign .... half an hour ago 15:45:23 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 15:45:41 <Stablean> <Anson> fix that rail first 15:45:44 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I must have build everything but a little rail 15:48:24 <Stablean> <Anson> you had drawn a long line, and not seen that at a level change, a connection couldn't be placed 15:48:37 <Stablean> *** {[FR]Syl59} joined the game 15:48:42 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yeah 15:48:58 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> this game has a lot of nasty hidden surprises 15:49:02 <Stablean> <Anson> remember such problems ... they happen often and are only real problems if you don't notice and fix them 15:49:48 <Stablean> <Anson> a good idea for beginners (and for others too) is to watch the first train on every route once, so that you can be sure it does what it should 15:49:58 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 15:50:14 <Stablean> <Anson> that can also be used to detect tight (slow) curves, slow bridges, and other problems 15:51:04 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 15:52:42 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yeah, that's a strange looking connection between the lanes of the statoin 15:52:57 <Stablean> <Anson> general hint : for effective networks, each cargo should have its own pickup station ... drop stations can be shared 15:53:03 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I had to do it that way because there were a lot of hills 15:53:59 <Stablean> <Anson> how does it look now ? 15:55:44 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 15:56:21 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #1 15:57:52 <Stablean> *** solo joined the game 15:59:49 <Stablean> *** solo has left the game (leaving) 16:01:10 <Stablean> <Anson> bug_sniper ?! 16:01:16 <Stablean> *** RTM joined the game 16:01:27 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 16:01:35 <Stablean> <RTM> hi all 16:01:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 16:02:39 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> can I use disconnected stations to teleport resources? 16:02:55 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> nevermind, that's against the rules 16:03:05 <Stablean> <Anson> you can, but you are not allowed to :-) 16:03:30 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 16:03:33 <Stablean> <Dom> hello 16:03:37 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 16:03:40 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #12 16:04:01 <Stablean> <Anson> it is tolerated eg when you place a station on a hillside and the mine is 5 tiles away instead of <=4 ... then you can place another station tile near the mine 16:04:43 <Stablean> <Anson> but for the pure purpose of transporting cargo faster, it is against the rules 16:05:33 <Stablean> <Anson> are you still building ? where ? 16:05:55 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I'm working on getting extra stations for the grain and livestock 16:05:59 <Stablean> <Anson> did you already look at the formerly "correct but strange" location ? 16:06:09 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yes 16:06:44 <Stablean> <Anson> please remove all signs which are outdated ... else we'll have a thousand signs after 200 years :-) 16:06:50 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> it was an out-of-the-way solution to the problem caused by the hills 16:07:53 <Stablean> <Anson> what aboutt he hint for different cargos and pickups ? did you read that ? 16:07:56 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> well, that's my signs 16:07:59 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yeah 16:08:05 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I'm working on it 16:09:43 <Stablean> <Anson> look at your farm ... it had different productions, and your trains matched it ... but then grain went up and livestock went down, and thus trains would wait for a full load of grain while livestock wagons were only half filled 16:10:13 <Stablean> <Anson> if you use separate trains, you can add another train easily for the one cargo type ... 16:10:47 <Stablean> <Anson> and if you have separate stations, you easily can send trains for each cargo type independently 16:10:57 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yes, I'm trying to make separate stations 16:15:08 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> guess that place wasn't good for a station 16:15:34 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> so I'll refit those trains now 16:15:36 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 16:15:38 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#13) 16:15:46 <Stablean> <Anson> the farm is 5 tiles distant ... but in the hills, an extra tile is not considered "teleporting cargio" 16:15:52 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #12 16:21:47 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has started a new company (#13) 16:23:16 <Stablean> <Anson> hint : every station should have some space for waiting trains, at least a waiting bay for one full train 16:24:02 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> what I do is specify it so that there is exactly 1 train per station space 16:24:12 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> that way, I don't deal with queued trains 16:26:03 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> what's with the !gap sign? 16:26:14 <Stablean> <Anson> you use two different stations now for the same cargo from the same mine ? ... thus they now load at the same time which takes longer, and later the two trains might be on their way at the same time (filling the line more) while no train is waiting and loading at the station (bad for the rating) 16:26:49 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 16:26:49 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 16:26:55 <Stablean> <Anson> gap is the usual sign when rhere (probably) is a signal missing and causeing a too large signal gap 16:28:03 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> well, I don't have anywhere else to put the stations 16:28:25 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 16:28:36 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #12 16:28:40 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> so we might as well just have to settle for the livestock trains going the long way 16:28:42 <Stablean> <Anson> your solution to the farm problem works mediocre with low production and very few trains ... but for bigger networks and/or longer routes, you don't need 20 separate stations 16:29:14 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 16:30:56 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:31:16 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> can I remove that 1 tile station? 16:31:18 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 16:31:18 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 16:31:57 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> oh, I see what it's for 16:32:52 <Dom_> !companies 16:32:55 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 1 (Red): happy tran sport Transport 16:32:55 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 2 (Blue): Rainbow Slugs Inc. 16:32:55 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 3 (Orange): bug_sniper Transport 16:32:55 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 4 (Green): RexConnors' Ships 16:32:55 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 5 (Pink): Freez Transport 16:32:56 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 6 (Purple): thepower12n Transport 16:32:56 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 7 (Mauve): Anson Transport 16:32:58 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 8 (White): Mks Transport 16:32:58 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 9 (Brown): [FR]Syl59 Transport 16:33:00 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 10 (Yellow): RTM Mega 7x 16:33:00 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 11 (Dark Blue): Einspruch Transport 16:33:02 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 12 (Pale Green): Catbourne Transport 16:33:02 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 13 (Grey): r1kkie Transport 16:33:04 <Stablean> Dom_: Company 14 (Cream): KPG Transport 16:33:05 <Dom_> !date 16:33:06 <Stablean> Dom_: 9 Oct 1966 16:33:36 <Stablean> <Anson> when you do such a 1tile station just for teleporting cargo faster, it is against the rules, but when used in hilly terrain to move the pickup to a better location without terraforming, it is tolerated 16:33:53 <Stablean> *** pink pony express joined the game 16:34:37 <Stablean> *** pink pony express has left the game (leaving) 16:36:49 <Stablean> <Anson> do you see now, how the station can work ? ... one train always loading, space for a third train, and there may be even more trains when production is high enough and some trains are always en route ... 16:37:16 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 16:37:38 <Stablean> <Anson> if needed, it later is relatively easy to add even more platforms to it, or an overflow depot, etc 16:37:50 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> that means brindingbury valley might not be needed 16:38:21 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> on another note, the north trains are stuck 16:38:40 <Stablean> <Anson> at Nuntborough Valley, it is the same : two platforms, and waiting space for another train ... 16:39:10 <Stablean> <Anson> what is a north train ? 16:39:20 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> trains in nuntborough 16:39:26 <Stablean> <Anson> signs !!! ... easy to place with the default key O 16:40:46 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> so does that mean I can build a third instance of each type of train? 16:41:00 <Stablean> <Anson> old problem again ... wrong orders and/or impossible path ... in this case, i changed the track when the train just was at the crossing, and thus it continued and got stuck 16:41:20 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 16:41:52 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has joined company #6 16:41:56 <Stablean> <Anson> you can build a third grain and a third livestock train ... if production is high enough and/or you have enough money 16:44:15 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:44:26 <Stablean> <Anson> you decided to use TL4 and all trains are TL4 ... good :-) 16:45:20 <Stablean> <Anson> for the signals, you have lots of different spacings, sometimes 2, most of the time 3, sometime 4 ... 16:45:39 <Stablean> <Mks> why have more then 2? 16:45:53 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I use always 2 16:45:55 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> because I can't count 16:46:09 <Stablean> <Mks> don't you auto place signals? 16:46:13 <Stablean> <Anson> trains driving behind each other will be slowed by signal spacing .. the highest value determines the time for the whole track 16:46:35 <Stablean> <Anson> in the signal gui at the bottom right is a number 16:47:01 <Stablean> <Anson> that is the signal spacing that is always used when you drag signals 16:47:59 <Stablean> <Anson> 1 is too small and causes problems, and values >2 increase the distance between trains, so that the packing is less tight 16:48:09 <Stablean> <Anson> thus 2 probably is the best value 16:49:18 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 16:49:25 *** Dom__ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:49:44 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 16:50:04 <Stablean> <Anson> if you use TL2, maybe 3 is useful, but otherwise, 2 should be best since 2x2=4, 2x3=6, and even 2+2+2 !=5 should be more useful than 3 or 4 spacing 16:50:50 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok 16:50:56 *** Dom___ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:52:09 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 16:52:09 *** Dom___ is now known as Dom_ 16:52:22 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> ok, so is that how you use a combo signal? 16:53:32 <Stablean> <Anson> you still need to clean up the changes which were made at the livestock pickup ... delete Valley, place a second platform for North, and change the order for the train which used valley 16:54:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi jam 16:55:00 <Stablean> <Anson> but you have forgotten one signal at the exit of the triple station 16:56:14 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yeah, an unneeded track 16:56:20 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 16:56:24 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 16:57:03 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 16:57:18 <Stablean> <Anson> as it is now, it works ... but will be slow for leaving trains ... they first need to clear the area completely before the next can enter 16:57:29 *** Dom__ has quit IRC 16:58:12 <Stablean> <Anson> now trains may enter and exit faster 16:59:22 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yeah, now it looks like trains can go through there faster 16:59:34 <Stablean> <Anson> the other version might also have caused a deadlock ... just imagine what would have happened when one platform is empty so that a new train starts to enter, and while it hasn't yet reached the combo, another train wants to leave ... they would meet face to face at the combo 17:00:46 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yeah, there would be no exit then 17:01:25 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> oh yes, I see 17:01:39 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> now, they can't exit through the combo block at all 17:03:31 <Stablean> <Anson> a lot earlier, i had written about the first four signals ... now the PBS :-) 17:04:25 <Stablean> <RTM> my island is complete of cargoes 17:04:39 <Stablean> <Anson> path based signaling is used eg when there is only one single block, but trains can enter the block at the same time safely since they have different exits and don't cross their paths 17:05:46 <Stablean> <Anson> eample : the crossing with the combo : while one train enters the fourth platform, another can leave through the right track 17:06:44 <Stablean> <Anson> even more important : while a train tries to enter via the combo, another might try to leave ... then they wouldn't face each other at the combo, but still block each other at red signals on opposite blocks 17:07:06 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yeah, a clever solution to a difficult problem 17:07:45 <Stablean> <Anson> now a train can enter the station and be in that block, and another still has a safe path to leave 17:09:15 <Stablean> <Anson> all these signals could also be replaced by a single PBS IN THIS CASE ... when it replaces the incoming entry signal 17:09:45 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 17:09:55 <Stablean> <Anson> but in general, presigs should be used whenever possible since they offer more options and PBS mostly isn't needed anyway 17:10:41 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yeah 17:12:47 <Stablean> <Anson> you may now start another copper train 17:13:15 <Stablean> <Anson> btw : all copper trains should be cloned with shatred orders 17:13:33 <Stablean> <Anson> shared orders make it a lot easier to change them later when needed 17:13:47 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> what's that part marked with a sign? 17:14:45 <Stablean> <Anson> i first have shared orders for the two copper trains ... you know what that means ? 17:15:11 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yes, I can clone them and have another for a queue 17:15:37 <Stablean> <Anson> no, what "sharing" means 17:16:55 <Stablean> <Anson> when you just clone a train, it has the same orders as the other one. but when you want to change orders, you need to do it for every single train ... a lot of work with 4500 trains which all should have the same orders (in the big game 2013 :-) 17:17:25 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> so I also need to share orders after cloning it 17:17:55 <Stablean> <Anson> CTRL-CLICK to clone, and the orders are shared too 17:18:05 <Stablean> <Anson> the magic of CTRL :-) 17:18:49 <Stablean> <Anson> when you change orders on one train, all trains with shared orders will immediately start using those changed orders 17:19:14 <Stablean> *** Muel joined the game 17:19:19 <Stablean> <Muel> hou 17:20:05 <Stablean> <Muel> Mks: ? 17:20:05 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> no idea what that was for though 17:22:51 <Stablean> <Anson> moment please ... not yet finished 17:24:17 <Stablean> <Anson> done now :-) 17:25:15 <Stablean> <Anson> you don't have to understand that yet :-) but it shows what is possible by using presignals ... 17:25:43 <Stablean> <Anson> overflow for additional trains ... when platforms are full, trains will go to the depot and wait there 17:25:58 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 17:26:30 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (general timeout) 17:26:30 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (connection lost) 17:28:08 <Stablean> <Anson> this is a somewhat advanced construction ... since it lets trains wait on the ML until either a platform is free or the overflow is free. then trains go to the depot and are kept there while either all platforms aref ull, the overflow has a train incoming to the depot, or another train comes on the ML 17:29:59 <Stablean> <Anson> in addition, the depot is invisible from the mainline, and thus eg trains which are just going to the farm won't see this depot (and be stuck in this sideline) when they get maintenance orders, eg from autoreplace 17:31:46 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I see 17:32:40 <Stablean> <Anson> it will probably take a little more than 10 minutes or even a say until you completely understand and can build it yourself :-) 17:33:06 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> how long did it take the openttdcoop members to figure that out? 17:33:18 <Stablean> <Anson> but it is something to work towards ... and thus some simple rules should be followed, like not sending grain and livestock to the same station 17:33:48 <Stablean> <Anson> there are always new inventions and improvem,ents to many things 17:33:54 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> or on the same train, I assume 17:34:56 <Stablean> <Anson> on the same train is not as bad as on different trains that go to the same station 17:35:30 <Stablean> <Anson> same train only doesn't optimally use the trains, but same station prohibits you from doing things like this overflow 17:37:06 <Stablean> <Anson> in theory, you could set up a train with one wagin for each cargo that is on the map, and then copy that train template to transport everything, but a lot of wagons would remain empty and only fill the mainlines 17:37:53 <Stablean> <Anson> using only two cargoes is not as bad as using 8+ :-) ... but the principle is the same 17:38:15 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> well, it's really like a starting point 17:38:36 <Stablean> *** Panda joined the game 17:39:48 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 17:42:16 <Stablean> <Anson> Einspruch ... even when i wasn't actively monitoring my island and my towns, you may not simply build a new route that does exactly the same transport as my route 17:42:31 <Stablean> <Einspruch> why not? 17:42:47 <Stablean> *** Panda has changed his/her name to RexConnors 17:42:59 <Stablean> <Einspruch> can i have promission for this one time:) 17:43:45 <Stablean> <Anson> all the pax that you transport are not transported by me ... that is stealing 17:44:16 <Stablean> <Einspruch> can i not give a amount of money to you for this time 17:46:04 <Stablean> <Anson> most islands are already occupied by some player, but when someone does only cargo he might not object to you doing pax ... and two(very small) islands in the south are not yet used at all, one with 2 and the other with 3 towns 17:46:58 <Stablean> <Jam35> I really would remove that or you might get everything removed :p 17:47:00 <Stablean> <Anson> there are several problems ... one is that your stations are built right where the town should grow 17:47:15 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> fast trains or chami ... 17:47:46 <Stablean> <Einspruch> can i than replace my big station and let the other stations at their place? 17:47:52 <Stablean> <Mks> there aren't really anywhere left to build 17:48:56 <Stablean> <Anson> Tronhattan and Martston is a very small island 17:49:30 <Stablean> <Jam35> there are enough places larger than the size of Anson's island 17:49:36 <Stablean> *** [FR]Syl59 has left the game (leaving) 17:49:40 <Stablean> <Anson> and many people are doing cargo on really big islands and might not object to your pax transports 17:50:35 <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... i selected a small island without usable industries to do my small pax net there ... 17:50:57 <Stablean> <Mks> to be fair there is no rule in this game saying only 1 company per island even tho its usually like that 17:51:39 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> sometimes when planes are available, I make use out of them 17:51:41 <Stablean> <Anson> no, you are right mks ... that was an additional rule two maps ago that was written at the welcome message 17:51:57 <Stablean> <Anson> many maps also have one island only :-) 17:52:23 <Stablean> <Anson> but there are rules to not build right next to other people and not steal their resources 17:52:35 <Stablean> <Mks> so it is 17:52:46 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> the default maps have just a single island, but I don't think that's the case here 17:53:12 <Stablean> <Mks> 17:53:30 <Stablean> <Anson> and einspruch put two stations next to my two stations for pax transport, and put his feeder stations right in the cities between my feeder stations, where the town should grow houses 17:53:56 <Stablean> <Einspruch> i dont understand that 17:54:42 <Stablean> <RexConnors> lol 17:54:42 <Stablean> <Anson> what do you not understand ? what a feeder is ? what stealing is ? what "next to other players" is ? 17:54:51 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 17:54:54 <Stablean> <Einspruch> i replaced my station 17:54:58 <Stablean> <V453000> hy 17:55:00 <Stablean> <Mks> well your island is quite small anson so no need for him to be there when your doing pax there alrdy 17:55:02 <Stablean> <RTM> hi RexConnors 17:55:12 <Stablean> <RexConnors> lol 17:55:16 <Stablean> <RexConnors> see that fail? 17:55:18 <Stablean> <Mks> V you should act judge 17:55:28 <Stablean> <V453000> whaa 17:55:30 <Stablean> <Einspruch> and im not annyomore transporting at the same route 17:55:30 <Jam35> From the rules :Stealing and competiton: Generally No stealing and no competition. Ask if you want to service an industry or town serviced by another player 17:55:32 <Stablean> <Mks> check !this island 17:55:58 <Stablean> <V453000> wtf are you two idiots doing :D 17:56:08 <Stablean> <V453000> I assume Anson was there first 17:56:10 <Stablean> <Mks> anson was there first I belive 17:56:16 <Stablean> <Einspruch> but there is no competition annymore, my starting station is annywhere else 17:56:22 <Stablean> <V453000> Einspruch, get out of there 17:56:32 <Stablean> <Einspruch> why? 17:56:40 <Stablean> <Einspruch> i changed it when he said 17:56:48 <Stablean> <Mks> anson was there 1949 and einspruch at 1970s 17:56:50 <Stablean> <Anson> you still have two stations in Rintburg, that are stealing pax 17:56:50 <Stablean> <V453000> dont build in already maintained towns 17:57:05 <Stablean> <V453000> it is annoying and blocks his intentions in developing the town 17:57:30 <Stablean> <Einspruch> but this is one of my main income sources 17:57:40 <Stablean> <V453000> ok lets remove your company entirely 17:57:48 <Stablean> <V453000> sound good? 17:58:00 <Stablean> <Einspruch> and i think the people are happy that there is a alternative for that smelly steam 17:58:14 <Stablean> <Einspruch> is there not another sollutiom 17:58:17 <Stablean> <RexConnors> people dont care! 17:58:24 <Stablean> <V453000> well, suggest a solution 17:58:26 <Stablean> <Einspruch> i do 17:58:44 <Stablean> <V453000> people are pigs in that town 17:58:58 <Stablean> <Einspruch> i will pay a bit of money to compensate 17:59:04 <Stablean> <Einspruch> is that a option 17:59:07 <Stablean> <Mks> there are two solutions since anson doesn't want you there and he was there first. 1. you remove your rails and stations and roads. 2. V removes your company 17:59:09 <Stablean> <V453000> this game isnt about money 17:59:16 <Stablean> <Anson> einspruch, you may keep that for a LITTLE(!) while until you have finished a track somewhere else ... maybe 5 years ? ... but then please delete all the stations in those towns here 17:59:27 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined company #7 17:59:32 <Stablean> <Mks> he has other tracks that have income 18:00:02 <Stablean> <Mks> + he has more then enough money to survive anyways 18:00:09 <Stablean> <Anson> in case my color has confused you ... i was talking and helping with bug_sniper, but soon will be "home" again on my island 18:00:15 <Stablean> <V453000> k sort this on your own, conclusion is that the station cant stay there 18:00:25 <Stablean> <Einspruch> okay 18:00:35 <Stablean> <V453000> or in other words, its fate is as Anson dictates 18:00:42 <Stablean> <Einspruch> may i than build the station at the adges of the city 18:00:44 <Stablean> <Einspruch> ? 18:00:46 <Stablean> <V453000> if your diplomacy results in him allowing it, its ok 18:00:50 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 18:01:22 <Stablean> <Einspruch> i stopped the trains 18:01:32 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, yes ... now i see that too ... twice my income (partially because of the pax that are stolen from me) 18:01:39 <Stablean> <V453000> only rule is about blackmailing for real money, that is not the way to go ... in such case I demand 20% share 18:01:54 <Stablean> <Anson> there is no unused edge of the city 18:01:58 <Stablean> <V453000> :> 18:02:08 <Stablean> <Anson> i have feeders that cover more than the current town area 18:03:54 <Stablean> <Anson> and your objection (translates to Einspruch :-) is overruled : it is only your main source of income since you reduce my income by laf 18:04:01 <Stablean> <Anson> *half 18:04:12 <Stablean> <V453000> omfg why do you even discuss that argument 18:04:46 <Stablean> <Einspruch> there is not a sollution where i keep 1 of the stations at your choise 18:05:28 <Stablean> <Einspruch> when is remove transferium i think you havent got a lot of problems with it 18:05:51 <Stablean> <Einspruch> is that ok? 18:06:25 <Stablean> <Einspruch> can i see that as a yes 18:06:39 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has joined company #6 18:06:49 <Stablean> <Mks> no you can't he has to answer 18:07:11 <Stablean> <V453000> a possibility is that one of you goes bankrupt and the other one buys them 18:07:18 <Stablean> <V453000> which way you merge companies and play together 18:07:32 <Stablean> <Einspruch> but im leaving for 15 minutes now, so i have to got an answer 18:07:42 <Stablean> <V453000> assume answer no 18:07:48 <Stablean> <V453000> if there is none 18:07:52 <Stablean> <Anson> you are still in the center of my town 18:08:06 <Stablean> <Mks> V monorail comes out 1990? 18:08:06 <Stablean> <Einspruch> see the conversation please 18:08:12 <Stablean> <V453000> yes Mks 18:08:15 <Stablean> <Mks> damn 18:08:25 <Stablean> <Einspruch> and im not driving to it 18:08:43 <Stablean> <RTM> monoray is avable 18:08:53 <Stablean> <Anson> and you also have built tracks by deleting town roads ... the town may not rebuild the houses if some are deleted somehow (by replacing some with stadiums, or whatever) 18:08:59 <Stablean> <RTM> maglev is not avable 18:09:02 <Stablean> <V453000> Einspruch: are you aware that if you just removed the stuff, it would be SO much simplier? 18:09:28 <Stablean> <Einspruch> do i realy have to:( no other solution:((( 18:09:37 <Mks> RTM only special version of monorail I want the normal one 18:10:21 <Stablean> <V453000> you should seriously try to service all primaries into multiple drops Mks :) 18:10:39 <Stablean> <Einspruch> i go for a last time get passengers an than iremove the station 18:10:47 <Stablean> <V453000> ................................ 18:10:53 <Stablean> <Mks> I am well timber at least 18:10:59 <Stablean> <V453000> do you really care about the dumb number which means money or what 18:11:02 <Stablean> <Einspruch> its removed 18:11:12 <Stablean> <Mks> or you mean I should not use same drop for timber? 18:11:31 <Stablean> <V453000> I mean you should service farms, copper ore mines, oil wells, and everything else you can find :) 18:11:35 <Stablean> <Einspruch> is it good 18:11:43 <Stablean> <Mks> well 18:11:49 <Stablean> <V453000> I still see dark blue on that island so the answer is no 18:12:04 <Stablean> <Mks> there is no room to expand yellow purr to 4 way 18:12:07 <Stablean> <Einspruch> but that is my village! 18:12:26 <Stablean> <V453000> and enough 18:12:37 <Stablean> <V453000> remove everything on that island immediately 18:12:48 <Stablean> <Einspruch> okay:( 18:13:14 <Stablean> <Anson> thanks, einspruch 18:13:20 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> Einspruch, if you need a place to start, Traninghall is a good place 18:13:23 <Stablean> <Mks> V I am thinking about servicing other things one problem is my tl 8 network is problematic building without slowdowns 18:13:37 <Stablean> <V453000> perhaps TL8 is bad? :P 18:13:45 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> there is a town and some industries there 18:13:48 <Stablean> <Mks> well probarbly but I wana use fast monorail 18:13:54 <Stablean> <V453000> what you could do would be a feeder over the narrow area 18:14:04 <Stablean> <V453000> like superstrong TL12 18:14:10 <Stablean> <V453000> and then normal trains elsewhere 18:14:30 <Stablean> <V453000> I could even show you tricks to make the narrow point more effective if necessary 18:15:37 <Stablean> <V453000> but I dont think it would be terribly hard to make CL8 everywhere either 18:15:43 <Stablean> <V453000> there arent that many industries after all 18:15:57 <Stablean> <Mks> I mean I know its no problem with the current tracks problem will occur later on 18:16:11 <Stablean> <V453000> only one way to find out :) 18:16:13 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think it would be hard 18:16:35 <Stablean> <V453000> nobody says SLs to primaries need CL8 either 18:16:42 <Stablean> <Mks> well I am doing goods from sawmill now so its an improvment 18:16:45 <Stablean> <Mks> I do :P 18:16:52 <Stablean> <V453000> goods dont count 18:17:18 <Stablean> <Mks> goods is bad in a way cause it generate ALOT of traffic over the same area 18:17:40 <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt with refit :) 18:17:54 <Stablean> <Mks> well 18:17:56 <Stablean> <Mks> a bit more then? 18:18:14 <Stablean> <V453000> how 18:18:16 <Stablean> <Mks> since I prolly would need a tad more trains that way then without using them for goods 18:18:30 <Stablean> <Mks> well some trains would have to travel a further distance 18:18:36 <Stablean> <V453000> that doesnt mean more trains per second are going through the choke point 18:18:46 <Stablean> <V453000> all of them not some :) 18:19:00 <Stablean> <V453000> throughput would still be "X cargo per month" based on throughput of primaries 18:19:14 <Stablean> <Mks> well perhaps 18:19:24 <Stablean> <V453000> simple logic, not perhaps :) 18:19:55 <Stablean> <Mks> most primaries not served will prolly close down soon 18:20:06 <Stablean> <V453000> can always prospet new ones 18:21:40 <Stablean> <Mks> btw why does this map use old newgrf files? 18:22:50 <Stablean> <V453000> probably from some old preset 18:23:01 <Stablean> <Mks> k 18:23:15 <Stablean> <V453000> nuts is new, period :> 18:23:29 <Stablean> <Mks> I saw 18:28:28 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 18:28:35 <Stablean> *** armoney joined the game 18:29:07 <Stablean> <RexConnors> lol spent all my cash for two feeders 18:29:13 <Stablean> <RexConnors> like 24 mill 18:29:15 <Stablean> <RexConnors> xD 18:32:10 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 18:32:37 <Stablean> <Anson> V: prospecting is random, isn't it ? thus mks would have to try it often or be very lucky to get some resources near his place, right ? 18:32:59 <Stablean> <Mks> it is yes 18:33:05 <Stablean> <V453000> yes, no real problem with that :) 18:33:19 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> there are resources on the island with the sign 18:33:21 <Stablean> <Anson> EINSPRUCH: please remove the remains too, before you logoff ... i have marked with signs all that i found 18:33:58 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:34:47 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> you remove stuff with the bomb 18:34:53 <Stablean> <Anson> btw: after einspruch left rintburg, the town needed less than a month to rebuild the town center, and it now grows every 6 days instead of every 20 days :-) 18:34:57 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> for things like this 18:35:28 <Stablean> <Anson> bug_sniper : things like this ??? what ? 18:35:48 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I think he can remove that using the bomb tool 18:35:58 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> though he does have to do so 18:36:05 <Stablean> <Anson> yes, HE can ... 18:37:25 <Stablean> *** Muel joined the game 18:37:27 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 18:45:05 <Stablean> <Anson> buig_sniper : look at my pax trains ... i now have the same problem that i told you about with the farms ... 18:45:16 <Stablean> <Anson> * bug_sniper :-) 18:45:54 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> too many hills to put anything anywhere? 18:46:52 <Stablean> <Anson> when "production" was low, i had mixed trains for mail and pax ... now i have to find some way to handle this problem, probably by separating the mail wagons from the pax trains, and maybe even deleting one of the three platforms and building an exclusive "mail only" station there ... 18:47:30 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> yeah 18:47:52 <Stablean> <RexConnors> That's frustrating i assume ;P 18:48:12 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> how many valuables can a bank make? 18:48:17 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 18:48:29 <Stablean> <Dom> hi 18:48:32 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 18:48:34 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #12 18:49:02 <Stablean> <Anson> to avoid these problems, keep stations for different cargos separate (at least the pickups; it doesn't matter for drops) and also the trains 18:49:32 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (leaving) 18:49:36 <Stablean> <Anson> open the bank window, just like mines, farms, etc ... it will show you 19:04:15 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 19:06:06 <Stablean> *** RexConnors has left the game (leaving) 19:08:19 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 19:12:37 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 19:12:37 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 19:13:48 *** Dom__ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:14:34 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 19:14:53 <Stablean> <RTM> hi Dom 19:15:03 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #12 19:15:03 <Stablean> <Dom> hi 19:18:21 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 19:18:21 *** Dom__ is now known as Dom_ 19:20:18 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 19:20:34 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #2 19:23:36 *** ODM has quit IRC 19:24:14 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 19:24:16 <Stablean> *** Dom has started a new company (#15) 19:24:21 <Stablean> <Big Meech> join me :P 19:24:23 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #12 19:24:28 <Stablean> <Big Meech> wrong company :P 19:24:30 <Stablean> <Dom> can do :D 19:24:32 <Stablean> <Dom> pw? 19:24:42 <Stablean> <Big Meech> its the default coop one 19:24:50 <Stablean> <Dom> ... 19:24:52 <Stablean> <Dom> idk 19:24:54 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 19:24:57 <Stablean> <Dom> :D 19:25:11 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #2 19:25:13 <Stablean> <Dom> :D 19:25:17 <Stablean> <Big Meech> switching engines now 19:25:19 <Stablean> <Big Meech> just got back 19:25:29 <Stablean> <Dom> mkay 19:25:43 <Stablean> <Dom> lets make it electric 19:25:56 <Stablean> <Big Meech> do it :P 19:26:11 <Stablean> <Dom> fast trains? 19:26:38 <Stablean> <Big Meech> thats what i was doing 19:27:52 <Stablean> <Dom> :D 19:28:10 <Stablean> <Dom> there is a sawmill 19:28:21 <Stablean> <Dom> also there is a factory 19:28:23 <Stablean> <Big Meech> well some of the locaitons suck imo. 19:29:06 <Stablean> <Dom> trudington sawmill doesnt look that bad 19:29:20 <Stablean> <Big Meech> no but the oil line would need moving 19:29:26 <Stablean> <Dom> yep a bit 19:32:22 <Stablean> <Dom> leave the old line 19:32:32 <Stablean> <Big Meech> i am 19:33:46 <Stablean> <Big Meech> sure 19:35:45 <Stablean> <Anson> bug_sniper : just for info ... i have replaced one platform with a new station for mail, but mail still comes to the old station too since i at least once had loaded mail there ... to get rid of that, i need to delete the whole remaining station now, build a new station, and adjust all orders of trains .... remember: just do it right from the start, decide what you want to pickup and only pick that up there ... 19:36:43 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I didn't notice 19:36:51 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I made no plans related to mail 19:38:21 <Stablean> <Big Meech> gw 19:39:25 <Stablean> <Big Meech> brb 19:39:35 <Stablean> <RTM> ok 19:39:53 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> well, looks like I have no choise but to get mediocre ratings from mudinghead for my passenger transportation 19:40:27 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> since I've already planted lots of trees and all those passenger stalls cost me a lot 19:46:05 <Stablean> *** armoney has left the game (leaving) 19:46:47 <Stablean> <RTM> brb 30 minutes 19:46:53 <Stablean> *** RTM has left the game (leaving) 19:49:13 <Stablean> <V453000> hi boxcar 19:49:24 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :P 19:50:31 <Stablean> <Big Meech> xD 19:51:45 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I tried to move the train to the transit center, but it just crashed instead 19:52:08 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali joined the game 19:52:15 <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi 19:52:31 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo 19:53:54 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has left the game (leaving) 19:55:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> no :P 19:57:01 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #12 20:01:08 <Stablean> *** Slicey joined the game 20:01:33 <Stablean> <Big Meech> sliceeeeeeeeee 20:01:37 <Stablean> <Slicey> yooo 20:02:31 <Stablean> <Slicey> man every time i want to play on the oublic server its full :( 20:02:37 <Stablean> <Slicey> or little space 20:02:48 <Stablean> <Big Meech> this is welcome Server 20:02:52 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 20:03:02 <Stablean> <Slicey> what ever .. 20:03:12 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 20:03:29 <Stablean> *** Muel joined the game 20:03:32 <Stablean> <Muel> :P 20:03:36 <Stablean> <Big Meech> better hurry before muel makes a company! 20:03:42 <Stablean> <Slicey> na its good 20:03:56 <Stablean> <Big Meech> you can ask to join a company too if you want 20:03:58 <Stablean> <Big Meech> you dont have to play alone 20:04:05 <Stablean> <Slicey> na lol its ok 20:04:19 <Stablean> *** Slicey has left the game (leaving) 20:04:24 <Stablean> <Big Meech> D: 20:05:32 <Stablean> *** RTM joined the game 20:06:52 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> hey, how do you have blimps? 20:07:28 <Stablean> <Big Meech> secret 20:10:18 <Stablean> <V453000> lol bug_sniper why does train 15 consist of 2 different trains 20:10:52 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #2 20:11:20 <Stablean> <V453000> mor slugs! 20:11:40 <Stablean> <Dom> no slugs yet 20:12:18 <Stablean> <Big Meech> usually cmeron would be here by now. if he was here we would have slugz 20:12:26 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 20:12:43 <Stablean> <RTM> that will be the day 20:12:49 <Stablean> <RTM> Big Meech: 20:13:08 <Stablean> <Big Meech> not calling cameron a slug :) 20:13:18 <Stablean> <Big Meech> we get there a lot sooner with cameron though :D 20:13:20 <Stablean> <RTM> that i didnt mean that 20:13:26 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I was clarifying :D 20:13:45 <Stablean> <RTM> ok 20:13:55 <Stablean> <RTM> :) 20:14:01 <Stablean> <V453000> he is so stupid that he has to clarify stuff for himself 20:14:04 <Stablean> <V453000> worlds finest 20:14:26 <Stablean> <Big Meech> if im so stupid why'd you make me a special train!? 20:14:36 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :P 20:15:30 <Stablean> <V453000> well disabled people get various benefits 20:15:40 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 20:20:47 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (leaving) 20:21:23 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 20:21:38 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:23:26 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 20:23:33 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi 20:23:47 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi 20:23:47 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 20:23:47 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 20:23:53 <Stablean> <Diablo> morning 20:24:09 <Stablean> <Dom> xD 20:24:15 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #12 20:24:24 <BiG> :P 20:24:55 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> do you ever use the superstrong trains? 20:25:06 <Stablean> <Diablo> bb 20:25:09 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I might use one here 20:25:13 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 20:27:27 <Stablean> *** KPG joined the game 20:29:06 <Mks> I've used them 20:29:13 <Mks> not in this game tho 20:29:39 <Stablean> *** KPG has left the game (leaving) 20:35:40 <Stablean> <V453000> the fast monorail will probably get power reduced so you better learn how to play properly Mks :P 20:35:42 <BiG> They're good for huge trains 20:36:19 <Stablean> <V453000> too good 20:36:25 <Stablean> <V453000> ah you mean SS 20:37:36 <Stablean> <V453000> roses are red, the other thing is blue, meech i a retard, orange 20:37:39 <Stablean> <V453000> poem, deal with it 20:38:18 <BiG> </3 20:43:58 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 20:49:01 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 20:49:34 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:54:28 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #2 20:54:46 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 20:55:18 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #12 20:57:22 <Stablean> <V453000> chameleons are good for TL2 Dom btw :P 20:57:26 <Stablean> <V453000> strong is always nice though :) 20:57:40 <Stablean> <V453000> ah this is medium 20:57:42 <Stablean> <V453000> mhm 20:59:56 <Stablean> <Dom> i know 21:00:02 <Stablean> <Dom> i maybe change to it later 21:00:10 <Stablean> <V453000> pffffft 21:00:24 <Stablean> <Dom> :D 21:00:57 <BiG> pffft 21:03:11 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 21:03:39 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has joined company #6 21:04:23 <Stablean> <Anson> why does my pax station always get pax and mail ? 21:04:41 <Stablean> <Anson> i just deleted it and only pure pax trains have arrived since ... 21:05:14 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 21:05:15 <Stablean> <thepower12n> which station? 21:05:21 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (connection lost) 21:05:45 <Stablean> <thepower12n> ? 21:06:29 <Stablean> <Anson> Rintburg 21:07:47 <Stablean> <Anson> Rintburg transfer : i will delete it now, then build a new/separate station, and let the pax trains come ... 21:08:38 <Stablean> <Anson> you see ? Rintburg Transfer is deleted 21:10:32 <Stablean> <Anson> new station Rintburg ... train 2 adjusted ... 21:11:58 <Stablean> <Anson> strange ... now it doesn't 21:13:20 <Stablean> <Anson> and voilà ... there is mail coming 21:13:24 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 21:14:04 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #1 21:14:57 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> what's the difference between a universal rail and a purr? 21:15:37 <Stablean> <Anson> V, are you sure that the "No Control" engine only has a capacity of 40 pax ? or does it also have a capacity of 0 mail (which is not shown) ? 21:15:59 <Stablean> <Anson> sniper: the purr are colored :-) 21:16:05 <Stablean> <thepower12n> how can i autoreplace my trains to monorail? 21:16:16 <Stablean> <thepower12n> it say it failed because of the wagons 21:16:54 <Stablean> <thepower12n> nvm i got it;p 21:16:54 <Stablean> <Anson> thepower : do you know how to aitoreplace in general ? ... when replacing to monorail, don't forget to also replace the wagons 21:17:24 <Stablean> <Anson> monorail engines can only have monorail wagons ... you need to replace both 21:17:42 <Stablean> <thepower12n> yea i got it already 21:17:44 <Stablean> <thepower12n> but thanks 21:19:18 <Stablean> <V453000> Anson: wtf 21:19:20 <Stablean> <V453000> ? 21:19:51 <Stablean> <V453000> the 40 pax thing? 21:20:13 <Stablean> <Anson> old steam engine ... 21:20:27 <Stablean> <Anson> i am desperately looking why my station starts accepting pax ... 21:20:49 <Stablean> <V453000> I still do not see what is strange with the engine 21:21:03 <Stablean> <Anson> just deleted it, built a new/seperate station, and when one train arrives, it starts accepting mail 21:22:01 <Stablean> <V453000> idk how you managed to do it :) 21:22:04 <Stablean> <Anson> do you se that i have deleted Rintburg ? 21:22:24 <Stablean> <Anson> now i build a new station with CTRL 21:23:12 <Stablean> <Anson> new station is built ... adjusting trains 21:24:08 <Stablean> <Anson> train 1, 2, 3, 12 with shared orders ... 21:24:58 <Stablean> <Anson> train 3 arriving soon 21:25:57 <Stablean> <Anson> and you can see that the station accepts mail now 21:26:28 <Stablean> <Anson> do you want to try yourself ? 21:26:50 <Stablean> <V453000> your train has both mail and pax capacity? 21:26:52 <Stablean> <V453000> train 3 21:27:22 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:28:18 <Stablean> <Anson> OH ... why does that train have mail on the engine ? 21:28:33 <V453000> dont ask me 21:28:41 <V453000> and read chat when you discuss with somebody 21:28:45 <Stablean> <Anson> that stupid refitting for new trains ... 21:29:47 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> cool, I managed to be a chief executive 21:30:13 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> what are the ranks above the chief executive? 21:33:28 <Stablean> <Anson> lol ... deleted the stastion too often, and also had to stop the feeder trains ... and now i am hated by authorities :-( 21:35:10 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 21:46:08 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 21:46:36 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (processing map took too long) 21:46:37 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 21:47:01 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 21:47:08 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 21:48:26 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Lol 21:49:00 <Stablean> <Dom> lol 21:49:22 <Stablean> <Anson> biggest crash for a long time .... we were used to see only 4 all the time 21:49:26 <Stablean> <r1kkie> :P 21:49:28 <Stablean> *** Cameron has started a new company (#15) 21:51:05 <Stablean> *** Cameron has joined spectators 21:51:54 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> how do you build lots of one way signals? 21:55:11 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ joined the game 22:00:12 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ has left the game (leaving) 22:03:05 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> when can you start building maglev vehicles? 22:03:16 <Stablean> <r1kkie> 2025 something 22:03:23 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> I'm ready to transport some diamonds quickly 22:03:33 <Stablean> <thepower12n> 1970 22:03:45 <Stablean> <thepower12n> oh wait maglev 22:03:48 <Stablean> <thepower12n> no idea;p 22:03:54 <Stablean> <r1kkie> gn all! 22:03:56 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 22:04:13 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> well, are monorails a lot quicker than the fastest electric? 22:04:27 <Stablean> <thepower12n> depends on trainlenght 22:04:38 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> for a length of 3 22:04:40 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 22:04:42 <Stablean> <thepower12n> mine run at 166km/h with 3 tiles 22:06:56 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> who needs monorails, diamonds already move at 209km/h 22:10:54 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 22:35:48 <BiG> !players 22:35:51 <Stablean> BiG: Client 414 (White) is Mks, in company 8 (Mks Transport) 22:35:51 <Stablean> BiG: Client 394 (Orange) is bug_sniper, in company 3 (bug_sniper Transport) 22:35:51 <Stablean> BiG: Client 404 (Mauve) is Anson, in company 7 (Anson Transport) 22:35:51 <Stablean> BiG: Client 539 (Pale Green) is Dom, in company 12 (Catbourne Transport) 22:35:51 <Stablean> BiG: Client 556 (Purple) is thepower12n, in company 6 (thepower12n Transport) 22:35:52 <Stablean> BiG: Client 549 (Yellow) is RTM, in company 10 (RTM Mega 7x) 22:35:52 <Stablean> BiG: Client 437 (Dark Blue) is Einspruch, in company 11 (Einspruch Transport) 22:35:54 <Stablean> BiG: Client 567 is Cameron, a spectator 22:37:50 <Stablean> *** Einspruch has left the game (connection lost) 22:43:02 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> should I start moving people instead of valuables on my trains? 22:43:42 <Stablean> *** Mks has left the game (leaving) 22:43:46 <Stablean> <bug_sniper> because that appears to be how everyone else is making a lot of money 22:45:21 <BiG> passengers are usually the best bang for the buck 22:45:29 <BiG> its harder to do pax early in the game 22:49:16 <Stablean> *** Nathan joined the game 22:59:12 <bug_sniper_> @rules 22:59:13 <Webster> Ruleset - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Ruleset 23:04:02 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (general timeout) 23:04:02 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (connection lost) 23:04:05 <bug_sniper_> !rules 23:04:05 <Stablean> bug_sniper_: Rules are at http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart/Stable 23:04:56 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 23:10:32 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has joined company #6 23:13:58 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 23:14:18 <Stablean> *** Nathan has joined spectators 23:14:50 <Stablean> *** Nathan has left the game (leaving) 23:37:22 <Stablean> *** Supun411 joined the game 23:37:53 <Stablean> *** Supun411 has left the game (processing map took too long) 23:37:53 <Stablean> *** Supun411 has left the game (connection lost) 23:47:49 <Stablean> *** jayjay has started a new company (#5) 23:47:52 <Stablean> *** jayjay joined the game 23:50:45 <Stablean> *** jayjay has left the game (leaving)