Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 29th August 2013:
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02:27:25  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo
02:27:29  <Stablean> <Sylf> yo
02:27:35  <bug_sniper> !companies
02:27:38  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 1 (Green): Sutbourne Transport
02:27:38  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 2 (Blue): Forever Alone
02:27:38  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 3 (Orange): Diablo Transport
02:27:38  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 4 (Red): thepower12n Transport
02:27:38  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 5 (White): Andy Transport
02:27:40  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 6 (Dark Blue): RTM Transport
02:27:40  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 7 (Mauve): upset trans sport Transport
02:27:42  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 8 (Grey): Reichsbahn Transport
02:27:42  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 9 (Dark Green): - -
02:27:44  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 10 (Light Blue): temp Transport
02:27:44  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 11 (Yellow): iTKerry(UA) Transport
02:27:46  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 12 (Cream): Cargolux
02:28:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> did someoone wtf tf your shit too?
02:28:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> not my area
02:29:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> i do see some signs of major TFs
02:29:20  <BiG_MeEcH> ah, alright
02:30:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> what?  do you still expect people to actually read?
02:30:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> and comprehend?
02:30:41  <BiG_MeEcH> no way
02:30:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> and follow the rules?
02:30:51  <BiG_MeEcH> they f'ed up dom's area
02:31:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> I thought that was dom himself
02:31:29  <Stablean> <Sylf> the area with SH*P
02:32:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> but srsly, what do you expect when TF is so cheap?
02:36:14  <Stablean> <Sylf> hrmmm
02:36:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> I need more capacity...
02:40:31  <BiG_MeEcH> :D
02:40:38  <BiG_MeEcH> I don't think Dom did all of that terraforming
02:41:28  <BiG_MeEcH> I would have thought that he would tell me if he did that :)
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04:05:03  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :)
04:05:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> care if I join ?
04:05:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> go ahead
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04:05:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> so hi :)
04:08:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> paper mill could use some more trains but unsure if you're okay with the capacity
04:08:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> the stations should be expanded first
04:08:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> probably
04:09:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm maybe not
04:09:16  <Stablean> <Sylf> I think the drop needs to be expanded
04:10:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Im not sure
04:12:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> we gonna use that oh haha
04:12:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> change on the fly :D
04:13:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> backwards slugs are funny
04:13:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> now you can add more paper trains
04:14:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I added 4
04:14:36  <bug_sniper> I did a bit of TF too
04:14:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> thats a lot of boxes
04:14:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Some TF is okay but what they did around Dom isnt okay
04:14:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I dont know who did though =\
04:15:04  <bug_sniper> I was able to connect an oil rig to a refinery by making a peninsula for a train line
04:15:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I saw that :D
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04:17:21  <Stablean> <upset trans sport> what happened, dom?
04:17:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> someone decided to lower terrain all over
04:17:39  <Stablean> <upset trans sport> oh
04:17:47  <Stablean> <upset trans sport> i thought someone build a mountain in your way
04:17:53  <Stablean> <upset trans sport> built
04:18:47  <Stablean> <upset trans sport> care to put a sign where it happened?
04:18:57  <Stablean> <upset trans sport> also, what happened to the bender rules island?
04:19:03  <Stablean> <Big Meech> just look near dredwood woods
04:19:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Bender rules was taken care of by Dom I guess
04:19:48  <Stablean> <upset trans sport> well, near dreadwood, I can see a mountain
04:19:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> the paper mill
04:20:02  <Stablean> <Big Meech> they lowered terrain all over
04:20:28  <Stablean> <upset trans sport> well, it's flat, but I don't know what happened there
04:20:40  <Stablean> <upset trans sport> let me try something
04:21:03  <Stablean> <upset trans sport> ok, so it worked
04:21:26  <Stablean> <upset trans sport> I was able to disintegrate a chunk of your island on a corner
04:23:48  <Stablean> <Big Meech> well it looks like there is no paper waiting now
04:24:46  <Stablean> <upset trans sport> my guess is that temp transport did something, because the company shows up on dredwood's reputation page
04:25:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> D:  no more boxes
04:25:07  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I doubt it
04:25:25  <Stablean> <Big Meech> do you want tons of boxes? :)
04:28:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh well, I still have boxes at other two locations
04:28:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
04:28:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> no boxes!
04:29:02  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, Fenninghall depots seem to be stable now .... at 60 trains waiting for release :-)
04:29:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> good
04:29:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> that sounds just stupid...
04:33:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> those refit orders...
04:34:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm looking at train 150 for now
04:34:14  <Stablean> <Sylf> that train's order #7 is not needed
04:34:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Dom was in charge of the orders
04:34:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> there is a gap between "less than 96" and "more than 97" as well
04:35:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> so one would have to be 96 or 97?
04:35:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> you just don't put two conditionals like that
04:35:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> you only need 1
04:35:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> maybe he needs a new lesson or something :S
04:35:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> or, you say "less than 96%" for one ,and "more than or equal to 96%" for the other
04:37:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> also, I have a question...  what purpose does the waypoint fenninghall play?
04:37:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I'd assume that Dom thought it was needed so trains wouldnt get lost
04:38:17  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, I think I know
04:38:35  <Stablean> <Anson> such waypoints are needed when using double depots
04:38:49  <Stablean> <Sylf> the depot (refit) order might get skipped without the waypoint because the depot is behind the reverser.
04:38:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> dunno.
04:39:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> that logic doesn't apply here, anson
04:39:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> since the split is placed before the waypoints
04:39:57  <Stablean> <Anson> WP, orders, etc are similar to a refitting station :-)
04:40:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> what?
04:40:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> this IS a refit station
04:40:15  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe he looked at one and tried to copy it ....
04:40:29  <Stablean> <Anson> * TRIED :-)
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04:42:03  <Stablean> <Anson> the refitting depot shouldn't have the twoway signal ... that is used for overflows, but a refitting station should take care of all trains or cause a jam so that you see it :-)
04:44:33  <Sylf> what?
04:44:56  <Sylf> how does the twoway signal cause the jam in this case?
04:45:12  <Stablean> <Anson> it hides the jam
04:45:47  <Stablean> <Anson> without the 2way, trains would jam not in the depot, but in the station, and you would be able to see that
04:46:35  <Stablean> <Anson> what sense does it make to have an overflow in the middle of a refitting station ?
04:46:38  <Sylf> how does it hide the jam?
04:47:30  <Sylf> That depot is NOT an overflow
04:47:37  <Sylf> It is a refit depot.
04:47:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> there is no overflow
04:47:53  <Sylf> You are right about it not needing the twoway signal, but it is NOT the cause of the jam
04:48:00  <Stablean> <Anson> but the 2way signal makes an overflow depot out of the refitting depot
04:48:10  <Sylf> no
04:48:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> there isnt enough capacity the way it is now apparently
04:48:33  <Stablean> <Anson> not the cause ... but with it, you don't see the jam if you don't inspect the depots
04:48:47  <Stablean> <Anson> that's what i meant with "hides the jam"
04:49:00  <Sylf> But still, how does the twoway signal cause the build up?  How does the twoway signal hide the jam?
04:49:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> well there is no jam
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04:49:24  <Sylf> Two way or one way signal in this case makes no difference.
04:49:33  <Sylf> It is the fact that those are EXIT signal that matters.
04:49:44  <Stablean> <Anson> open the depot ... 60 trains in the middle of a refitting station is what i call a jam :-)#
04:50:13  <Sylf> Read my last line.
04:52:32  <Stablean> <Anson> and the cause of that jam is the throughput ... 6 platforms for drop, mostly well used at capacity limit, and only 4 platforms for the pick ... should be 6 too ... and then it also should be better balanced
04:52:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> well what i have noticed now is that the trains are preferring to go to the station closer to the left than the right
04:54:58  <Stablean> <Anson> what i have noticved is that single trains go to one reverser, and only a second following train goes to the other ... thus it is unbalanced in two ways : left3 vs right 3, and then the reversers
04:58:11  <Sylf> Even if it's balanced at the reverser, the overall effect is still the same.
04:58:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> will this work better?
04:58:31  <Sylf> Instead of having 60 trains queued in one depot, you will have 30 each trains in two depots
04:58:43  <Stablean> <Anson> should work better now
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04:59:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> well not totally
04:59:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> if not full would have to get larger too
04:59:54  <Stablean> <Anson> the unbalance of 60 vs 0 will remain ... it is caused by how the two reversers are constructed
05:00:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> can I make some changes
05:00:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sure
05:00:17  <Sylf> !players
05:00:20  <Stablean> Sylf: Client 334 is Sylf, a spectator
05:00:20  <Stablean> Sylf: Client 243 is Anson, a spectator
05:00:20  <Stablean> Sylf: Client 325 (Blue) is Big Meech, in company 2 (Forever Alone)
05:00:20  <Stablean> Sylf: Client 329 (Mauve) is upset trans sport, in company 7 (upset trans sport Transport)
05:00:25  <Sylf> !rcon move 334 2
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05:00:30  <Stablean> <Anson> but they can now leave the depot faster (filled from three platforms, released to three platforms
05:01:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I guess he only wants 100% filled trains to deliver shit
05:01:53  <Stablean> <Anson> no ... 97+ % :-)
05:02:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lets call that a full train :D
05:05:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> well
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05:08:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh this is confusing.
05:08:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> can't you make a conditional order for it to wait to be 100% full ?
05:08:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> compare the orders between trains 5 and 30
05:09:10  <Stablean> <Sylf> wait for 100% load is simply "wait for full load" order
05:09:29  <Stablean> <Sylf> and you never want to do that with refit games
05:09:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I can't help if the orders are wrong between those 2 trains
05:10:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> is the output always going to be lower?
05:10:16  <Stablean> <Anson> lower or equal
05:10:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> what equal?
05:10:41  <Stablean> <Anson> at station rating 100% and with this indistry set, it should be equal
05:10:59  <Stablean> <Anson> drop 100 wood and get 100 paper
05:11:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> consider 100% rating to be practically impossible.
05:11:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> to me it would make more sense if dom had made the orders to leave the station whenever even if not 80% full whatever, but he didnt want empty trains goign to the paper drop
05:14:04  <Stablean> <Anson> on my own refit stations, i use a single platform for three commands :-) ...first try a normal partial load, then test :  if load >50 then wait for fulll load, else unload
05:14:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I need more exp with refit
05:14:55  <Stablean> <Sylf> using single station doesn't give you any benefit or setback
05:15:13  <Stablean> <Anson> with the extra unload platform, it works faster, but conditionals and layout might be more complicated when also doing the full load
05:15:49  <Stablean> <Sylf> What?
05:15:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> You lost me again
05:17:07  <Stablean> <Anson> i use a single platform ... normal load at near end, then test for 50% ... if less than unload at far end ... if >50% then wait for full load
05:17:54  <Stablean> <Anson> that works fine, but throughput might be a bit lower compared to this solution of unloadin on another platform instead of unloading at far end
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05:18:16  <Stablean> <Sylf> I don't see any difference between using separate station or same station
05:18:34  <Stablean> <Anson> you mean platform ? not station !?
05:18:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> what?
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05:19:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> heh, profit chart went up with some simple shit
05:19:42  <Stablean> <Anson> the platforms behind "if not full" belong to the pick station ... unloading is done there, and thus another train can follow and already try loading
05:21:32  <Sylf> there are ways to avoid build-ups with that designs too.
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05:27:09  <Stablean> <Anson> depots are empty now (plus or minus one)
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05:30:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> no more trains in depot =S
05:30:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
05:30:54  <Stablean> <Anson> i notived that already 3 minutes ago :-)
05:31:04  <Stablean> <Anson> -v +c
05:31:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
05:32:02  <Sylf> by not using the exit signals, the trains are less likely to build up in one most favored depot
05:32:13  <Stablean> <Anson> did you also see that the drop platforms are used more now ? ... since there are more trains on the road (on the rail) instead of in the depot
05:32:13  <Sylf> it sure helps to have more pickup platforms too
05:32:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ah yes, thank you for designing the other
05:35:13  <Stablean> <Anson> i think that my version might work a little bit better : i put the drop and pick platforms next to each other, and each pair gets its own depot ... thus 6 drop, 6 pick and 6 depots ... using the depots as reverser, and thus it takes only a few tiles instead of the big reverser
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05:48:00  <Stablean> <Anson> just to show how i do it, i have built a template ... two platforms next to each other, and the whole reverser+depot takes only 5 tiles space (2x3 tiles)
05:49:14  <Stablean> <Anson> in the depot is train 1 with those orders which i use (handling load, unload and full load on the same platform)
05:50:54  <Stablean> <Anson> much smaller than this version, and even gives each drop/pick pair its own depot
05:52:08  <Stablean> <Anson> (instead of a merge, split, large reverser, depot, and another merge/split)
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05:55:43  <Stablean> <Diablo> hello
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05:58:35  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, diablo
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05:59:09  <Sylf> Anson, I think one of the goal of this design is to hide the depots behind the reverser
05:59:19  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, sylf ... what do you think of my small version for the refitter ?
05:59:40  <Sylf> also, next time you build a sample like that, please build it away from other players
05:59:49  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, that is the big disadvantage of my version ... visible depots
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06:00:39  <Sylf> you REALLY should go through the PS archives and see more different styles of refit stations.
06:00:41  <Stablean> <Anson> i put it next to the station to compare it ... and it can easily be deleted (put up a sign for that purpose :-)
06:01:09  <Sylf> I've seen you only use that style of design for refit stations
06:01:21  <Stablean> <Anson> besides the visible depot, what do you think of the compactness ?
06:01:38  <Sylf> I've used it.  It's okay.
06:01:43  <Sylf> Not that small either.
06:01:45  <Stablean> <Anson> and to me it is special : i have invented it, not copied
06:02:38  <Sylf> before you sell your ideas to others, really, please study other designs too.
06:02:45  <Stablean> <Anson> no patent for it; i wasn't the first to do that one ... but nonetheless, i invented it :-)
06:22:31  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, new version with invisible depot ... size 2x14 for TL3, instead of 5x17 :-)
06:23:49  <Stablean> <Anson> and with width=2, it can be copied any number of times without modification, up to the max station spread
06:24:52  <V453000> ._.
06:25:03  <V453000> seen the archives or @@ABR11 ?
06:25:04  <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 11: Refit Stations at #openttdcoop -
06:25:16  <V453000> or junctionary, there is probably some too
06:26:39  <Stablean> <Anson> i once read all ABR, but understood not even half of it at that time ... will have another look again, soon ...
06:27:26  <V453000> it is more like about "I find info when I need it" rather than "I read everything once"
06:28:16  <Stablean> <Anson> i always have problems finding the ABR ... didn't find a function like @@ABR in the wiki
06:28:53  <V453000> there is a direct link from the main page
06:28:56  <V453000> or from my user page
06:32:11  <Stablean> <Diablo> yo anson, what do u think of my insane layout for 'Plendinghall Woods'?
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06:33:38  <Stablean> <Anson> where on that page is the link to the ABRs ? ... i only see "older entries" and then go through page after page until i might find a specific ABR
06:34:07  <V453000> not
06:36:24  <Stablean> <Anson> ah ... found it now :-)
06:37:06  <Stablean> <Anson> last line in the ABC :-)
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06:39:48  <Stablean> <Anson> layered layout ... looks nice at first sight ... but what i find really insane are all those curves and loops that you build :-)
06:40:18  <Stablean> <Anson> looks like something which is built by the AI :-)
06:40:46  <Stablean> <Diablo> its the only way i can think of for that small area
06:41:16  <Stablean> <Anson> I'm just looking at Printston Woods ...
06:42:12  <Stablean> <Diablo> my comment covers all station areas
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06:43:30  <Stablean> <Anson> look at Printston Valley ... wouldn't that work too, without 270 degree exit ?
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06:45:44  <Stablean> <Diablo> not really...there was an industry where ur stn is and too lazy to rlocate the sidings
06:46:19  <Stablean> <Anson> ah, blocked tiles explain something ...
06:47:39  <Stablean> <Anson> i like rollercoasters :-) ... but is that big 8-loop necessary ?
06:48:29  <Stablean> <Diablo> not really, i just want to get rid of some $$$$
06:50:03  <Stablean> <Anson> i spend my €€€ by rebuilding such beasts a few times :-)
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06:53:25  <Stablean> <Anson> another platform at Plarfinghill probably won't help ... what about rebuilding it as roro ? :-)
06:53:52  <Stablean> <Diablo> its used more than i expected
06:59:43  <Stablean> <Anson> having a closer look, i see that you don't have a network at all ... but 4 ot 5 separate tracks
07:00:29  <Stablean> <Diablo> small island with little commodities = no ml
07:02:11  <Stablean> <Anson> there is one rail missing :-) at !misrail
07:02:33  <Stablean> <Anson> no entry from right bridge to depot
07:03:07  <Stablean> <Diablo> thx for pointing that out :)
07:03:29  <Stablean> <Anson> i like the "finetuning" :-)
07:07:09  <Stablean> <Anson> I'm currently testing a map that i made ... 17 or 18 islands, and all of them have the same resources ... at least at the start of the map before some of them decay
07:07:47  <Stablean> <Anson> would be nice if people that join a few years later also would have the same resources and industries
07:08:18  <Stablean> <Diablo> isnt there a setting for industry longevity?
07:09:08  <Stablean> <Anson> how can that be done best ? ... there is a grf that freezes everything, butt hen nothing will disappear :-) and also nothing new will span :-(
07:09:36  <Stablean> <Diablo> thats called the pause button lol
07:09:56  <Stablean> <Anson> show me how to use that button here in MP
07:10:14  <Stablean> <Diablo> only admin has priviledges
07:11:16  <Stablean> <Anson> the wet trains remind me of RCT :-)
07:11:30  <Stablean> <Anson> just like all your loops etc
07:11:32  <Stablean> <Diablo> rct?
07:11:47  <Stablean> <Anson> roller coaster tycoon
07:11:57  <Stablean> <Diablo> ooooh
07:12:11  <Stablean> <Anson> same author as TT
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07:25:56  <Stablean> <Anson> what do you think of my refit station ? ... i like to invent such things myself, even when other people already have done similar or better
07:26:38  <Stablean> <Anson> will have a look at what other people did, like V suggested ... @@ABR11
07:26:39  <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 11: Refit Stations at #openttdcoop -
07:27:18  <Stablean> <Diablo> is that a scaled down vrsion of how u do it?
07:27:48  <Stablean> <Anson> scaled up :-)
07:28:06  <Stablean> <Anson> usually, i use a much smaller version, but that has a visible depot
07:28:56  <Stablean> <Anson> that is my version with vis depot
07:29:10  <Stablean> <Anson> only the platforms and then 2x3 tiles behind it
07:30:45  <Stablean> <Anson> since V told me that the blue company probably had used big reversers to hide the depot, i tried to merge the two : longer reverser on mine, so that the depot becomed invis too
07:31:48  <Stablean> <Anson> but i took care that the width is only 2 tiles ... thus you can put them next to each other as long as you want (up to station spread) without need to change the layout
07:33:00  <Stablean> <Anson> the template that i have built here is for TL2
07:33:27  <Stablean> <Rex Connors> Hey anson, why did blue buy up all the land around dredwood stations
07:34:21  <Stablean> <Anson> probably so that no industries appear there while the station is rebuilt ... and then didn't remove that reservation
07:34:35  <Stablean> <Rex Connors> Ah :P thanks
07:39:35  <Stablean> <Anson> diablo, you have too few unloading platforms for coal ... and a single bridge in the track ... coal is piling up now at the pickup station
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07:53:06  <Stablean> <Dom> hi
07:53:12  <Stablean> <Diablo> hi
07:59:28  <Stablean> <Diablo> bb
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08:04:25  <V453000> hyyyyy
08:05:20  <bug_sniper> !companies
08:05:23  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 1 (Green): Sutbourne Transport
08:05:23  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 2 (Blue): Forever Alone
08:05:23  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 3 (Orange): Diablo Transport
08:05:23  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 4 (Red): thepower12n Transport
08:05:23  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 5 (White): Andy Transport
08:05:24  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 6 (Dark Blue): RTM Transport
08:05:24  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 7 (Mauve): upset trans sport Transport
08:05:26  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 8 (Grey): Reichsbahn Transport
08:05:26  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 9 (Dark Green): - -
08:05:28  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 10 (Light Blue): temp Transport
08:05:28  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 11 (Yellow): iTKerry(UA) Transport
08:05:30  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 12 (Cream): Cargolux
08:05:30  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 13 (Pink): my refit version
08:05:32  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 14 (Purple): Rex Connors Transport
08:05:42  <bug_sniper> !clients
08:33:03  <Stablean> <Dom> oh hi V :)
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09:40:17  <Dom_> V are you here?=
09:40:23  <Dom_> i have a new map soon :)
09:47:37  <Dom_>
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10:12:54  <V453000> I am at ze worg
10:13:01  <V453000> will have a look as soon as I come home Dom_
10:14:20  <Dom_> ok :)
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10:43:38  <Stablean> <Dom> LOL
10:44:01  <Stablean> <Dom> my first 3 train crash xDD
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11:46:39  <Stablean> <RTM> hi Dom
11:46:45  <Stablean> <RTM> hi Anson
11:46:51  <Stablean> <Dom> hi
11:59:54  <Stablean> <Dom> this looks promising :D
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12:06:31  <Stablean> <Dom> fuck
12:13:47  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
12:13:53  <Stablean> <Dom> hi
12:14:27  <Stablean> <Anson> you need to put a WP directly next to the PBS at the double depot to make it work
12:14:46  <Stablean> <Dom> which?
12:15:12  <Stablean> <Anson> without the WP, trains wil select which depot to use when they leave the station, and that would always be the same, the nearest
12:15:30  <Stablean> <Dom> i know but the depot spread aint far enough :)
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12:17:41  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, a bit difficult ... but without WP, it doesn't work
12:17:49  <Stablean> <Dom> its ok now :)
12:18:23  <Stablean> <Anson> without WP, you can use single depots as well ... the second depot will never be used
12:19:05  <Stablean> <Dom> bastards dont refit :(
12:20:11  <Stablean> <Anson> you have used a block signal at the sign "exit signal"
12:21:12  <V453000> using PBS with depots is generally not the best of ideas
12:21:29  <V453000> throughput is cute, reliability not quite
12:22:33  <Stablean> <Dom> god damnit
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12:31:25  <Stablean> <Anson> can't you move the two other double depots to double 1 and double 2 ?
12:31:47  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
12:33:14  <Stablean> <Dom> what 14?
12:33:25  <Stablean> <Dom> tiles long
12:33:28  <Stablean> <Anson> 14 station spread
12:33:32  <Stablean> <Dom> oh
12:34:50  <Stablean> <Anson> at the signs 9 and 13, it might have enough space for the double depots
12:39:04  <Stablean> <Dom> now we wait
12:39:04  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
12:40:39  <Stablean> <Anson> wait for what ?
12:41:37  <Stablean> <RTM> hi JustWatching
12:41:55  <Stablean> <JustWatching> Been staring at your stations for about 10 minutes, Dom, and I don't think I'll ever comprehend how it all is actually working.
12:42:07  <Stablean> <Dom> for the jam to clear
12:42:13  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
12:42:16  <Stablean> <Dom> which station JustWatching
12:42:23  <Stablean> <JustWatching> The papermill.
12:42:37  <Stablean> <Anson> two double depots are still too distant
12:43:09  <Stablean> <Dom> well trains go in unload go through the reverser (so the trains do no see the depot) in the depot the refit to paper wagons and then load paper
12:43:19  <Stablean> <Anson> at sign 1, the WP is missing, sign 8 is ok
12:43:35  <Stablean> <Dom> after that the train check how much paper could it load if not enough it goes thorugh the waypint and unloads again
12:43:41  <Stablean> <Anson> the depot at signs 13,14,15 is too distant (WP would be 15 away)
12:43:47  <Stablean> <Dom> after that it refits to wood and goes back home
12:43:57  <Stablean> <Dom> does it matter Anson
12:44:12  <Stablean> <Dom> aslong as they refit idc
12:44:24  <Stablean> <Anson> the WP should be directly at the PBS signals
12:45:26  <Stablean> <Dom> JustWatching:  if they succesfully load enough paper then the go to the printing factory and drop it there
12:45:36  <Stablean> <Dom> after that they refit back
12:45:40  <Stablean> <Dom> to wood
12:46:34  <Stablean> <Anson> i saw that it just worked at the double depot next to sign "1" ... but to make it more reliable, the PBS should be directly at the sign and not several tiles before it
12:48:24  <Stablean> <Dom> it wasnt missing
12:48:30  <Stablean> <Dom> it was after the bridge
12:48:40  <Stablean> <Dom> happy?
12:48:43  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
12:48:57  <Stablean> <Anson> that's what i meant with "missing" : "missing at THIS location"
12:50:51  <Stablean> <Anson> i think it is 12-24 months now, that i tested that "PBS plus WP" back and forth, together with V, until he stated that that was a bug in the then currentversion, and a bit later he said that it was fixed
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12:52:51  <Stablean> <Anson> i don't know how they fixed it ... at that old time, the PBS and the WP had to have a specific order and no distance between them to make it mostly work ... now it seems to work also with a bigger distance between them, but most reliable is still to put it directly next to each other
12:53:05  <Stablean> <Anson> like it is now
12:53:11  <Stablean> <Dom> ok
12:53:14  <Stablean> <Dom> didnt know that
12:53:22  <Stablean> <Dom> normaly its was always next to it
12:55:25  <Stablean> <Anson> you can test it by stopping a train leaving a depot and watching whether the next train will enter the other depot ... repeat 7 times :-) ... i always do that test when building double depots
12:57:55  <Stablean> <Dom> see?
12:58:22  <Stablean> <Anson> train 87 stopped since it hadn't a "go via WP" order
12:59:33  <Stablean> <JustWatching> Well, back to failing to move more than 2 trains at the same time without going bankrupt. Thanks for inspiration, Dom.
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13:03:19  <Stablean> <Anson> look at my train 1, to compare how i do the tests and where i use the WP in my orders
13:05:09  <Stablean> <Anson> look at your train 87 ... it needs the "go via WP REFIT EMPTY" between order 8 (unload) and order 9 (refit)
13:06:12  <Stablean> <Dom> sec
13:07:18  <Stablean> <Dom> whats with train 87?
13:07:44  <Stablean> <Anson> you have the WP at order 13
13:07:54  <Stablean> <Dom> ups ty :)
13:08:09  <Stablean> <Anson> i think it should be between the orders to unload and to refit, thus between 8 and 9
13:08:32  <Stablean> <Dom> i did already move it there
13:08:51  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe the same or similar with other trains too, i didn't check
13:09:29  <Stablean> <Anson> i noticed it because train 87 didn't enter the alternate depot when you tested it by stopping a train
13:10:07  <Stablean> <Dom> LOL RTM
13:10:22  <Stablean> <RTM> wy lol Dom
13:10:32  <Stablean> <Dom> dont make a megacity by water tfing
13:11:10  <Stablean> <Dom> btw you transport 800 pax
13:11:16  <Stablean> <Dom> with max possibility of 12k
13:11:58  <Stablean> <RTM> i think that the mail have increase the population
13:12:24  <Stablean> <Dom> you transport 300 mail with almost 3k max
13:14:31  <Stablean> <Anson> i have heard that pop increases faster for up to 5 station (no matter whether pax or mail)
13:15:03  <Stablean> <RTM> only one station for PAX
13:15:09  <Stablean> <RTM> i have there
13:15:17  <Stablean> <RTM> the rest is cargoes
13:16:19  <Stablean> <Anson> dom, why do ou have "no signals on purpose" ?
13:16:45  <Stablean> <Dom> the depots have a built in pbs :)
13:16:55  <Stablean> <Dom> or kind of pbs
13:17:09  <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... and thus trains wait in the depots
13:17:56  <Stablean> <Anson> but that can lead to this: one depot is empty, the other filled ... trains wait in the depot and a new train enters the depot when a train should be released but has to wait now
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13:18:54  <Stablean> <Anson> with a PBS at that sign, a train would leave (stick its head out :-) and thus block that depot for more incoming trains which would go to the other
13:19:36  <Stablean> <thepower12n> only 30 trains in the depot;p
13:23:27  <Stablean> <Dom> not possible
13:23:49  <Stablean> <Dom> i cant put the wp there
13:23:59  <Stablean> <Dom> station spread
13:24:18  <Stablean> <Dom> got an idea
13:25:48  <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... same as you did on the other side : depots "off by 1" to fit them closer together
13:26:40  <Stablean> <Anson> why do you use those large reversers at all ? to hide the depots ?
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13:46:27  <Dom_> indeen
13:46:28  <Dom_> *d
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15:04:34  <Stablean> <RTM> byb byb
15:04:40  <Stablean> <RTM> i am off
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15:22:45  <Stablean> <Muel> hou
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15:48:00  <Stablean> <V453000> mu
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16:16:30  <V453000> @logs
16:16:30  <Webster> #openttdcoop IRC webstuff - IRC Log Viewer -
16:18:43  <mks> !date
16:18:44  <Stablean> mks: 19 Jun 2156
16:27:30  <V453000> Dom_: we used the DACH train set once, lets keep it at that number
16:32:23  <Dom_> why?
16:35:12  <V453000> it is about as bad as 2cc set
16:35:19  <Dom_> hmm
16:35:22  <V453000> same reasons
16:35:26  <Dom_> ow about ukrs
16:35:28  <Dom_> =?
16:35:50  <V453000> ukrs 3.04 is ok
16:35:55  <Dom_> ok
16:36:02  <Dom_> everything else ok?
16:41:27  <V453000> idk didnt look too much detail just the most important thing :)
16:44:15  <Dom_>
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16:55:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  all
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16:58:30  <V453000> just check the map yourself Dom_  :)
16:58:55  <bug_sniper> !clients
16:58:57  <V453000> and when at it, using this rough map is really wtf, I suggest 1 level less
16:59:06  <V453000> + industrial station renewal has an update
16:59:15  <bug_sniper> !companies
16:59:18  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 1 (Green): Sutbourne Transport
16:59:18  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 2 (Blue): Forever Alone
16:59:18  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 3 (Orange): Diablo Transport
16:59:18  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 4 (Red): thepower12n Transport
16:59:18  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 5 (White): Andy Transport
16:59:20  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 6 (Dark Blue): RTM Transport
16:59:20  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 7 (Mauve): upset trans sport Transport
16:59:22  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 8 (Grey): Reichsbahn Transport
16:59:22  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 9 (Dark Green): - -
16:59:24  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 10 (Light Blue): temp Transport
16:59:24  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 11 (Yellow): iTKerry(UA) Transport
16:59:26  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 12 (Cream): Cargolux
16:59:26  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 13 (Pink): my refit version
16:59:28  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 14 (Purple): Rex Connors Transport
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17:07:48  <Dom_> ok
17:27:50  <Dom_>
17:27:55  <Dom_> ready to go :)
17:29:17  <V453000> Dom_: look at the newGRF settings
17:29:27  <V453000> something tells me that UKRS isnt quite active :)
17:31:45  <Dom_> xD
17:31:54  <Dom_> its a no train set :D
17:33:16  <Dom_> is it possible to change it without generating a new map?
17:33:20  <BiG_MeEcH> no way
17:34:49  <V453000> it is, what would you do Dom_ ? :)
17:34:56  <Dom_> enable them
17:35:01  <V453000> how
17:35:06  <Dom_> idk
17:35:10  <V453000> find out :)
17:35:11  <Dom_> thats what I'm asking you :D
17:35:16  <Dom_> it isn't :D
17:35:26  <V453000> it is
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17:35:46  <V453000> the error message says something
17:36:04  <Dom_> i know
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17:36:09  <Dom_> i will find out :)
17:36:14  <Dom_> i've got good motivational music
17:36:16  <Dom_>
17:36:16  <Webster> Title: Blake Shelton - The More I Drink (Official Video), Length: 3m 42s, Views: 4772020, Likes: 21790
17:36:59  <V453000> you can ask for hints but I wont tell you exactly :)
17:37:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi big
17:37:36  <V453000> BTW loading UKRS 3.04 add-on is a good idea for some nice extra engines, they are quite important
17:37:39  <BiG_MeEcH> hi
17:37:41  <Dom_> i need the ukrs rail set since it combines
17:37:50  <V453000> no why would you need a rail set
17:38:04  <V453000> the error message in the newGRF window says something
17:38:06  <V453000> see that
17:38:14  <Dom_> i don't get an error msg
17:38:36  <V453000> in the newGRF window when looking at the save?
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17:39:22  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how things  big
17:39:24  <Dom_> yes
17:39:34  <Dom_> i know i have to enable it
17:39:39  <Dom_> thaw the only thing it says
17:40:08  <V453000> no it says something more in the top
17:40:28  <Dom_> ahhh
17:40:33  <Dom_> :(
17:40:52  <Dom_> not working for this climate i pressume
17:41:03  <V453000> what does it say
17:41:08  <V453000> it doesnt say anything about climates
17:41:52  <Dom_> invalid parameter for uk_renewal_set.3.04/pb_ukrs.grf:parameter for climate bit (0)
17:42:14  <V453000> ok well
17:42:29  <V453000> perhaps there is wrong parameter? :P
17:42:54  <Dom_> LOL
17:43:00  <Dom_> -.-"
17:43:28  <Dom_> thats what i didn't try -.-" i changed both parameters to 1 xD
17:43:43  <V453000> you cant just "try" that
17:44:13  <Dom_> learning by doing :D
17:44:27  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> dom  whonts  the   new grf  for the nexs  mape
17:44:29  <V453000> ok well where could you possibly find the values
17:44:48  <V453000> possssibbblyy
17:44:51  <Dom_> :D and since there are only 3 possible ways
17:46:13  <V453000> so what do?
17:47:58  <Dom_> try all :D
17:48:08  <Dom_> and i tried 2 :D
17:48:12  <Dom_> anyway
17:48:13  <Dom_>
17:48:16  <V453000> do you know how many values can parameters have?
17:48:24  <Dom_> idk 10
17:48:41  <V453000> I have seen 500+
17:48:44  <V453000> fyi
17:48:45  <Dom_> oh
17:48:46  <V453000> so go find a readme
17:48:52  <Dom_> why?
17:49:10  <V453000> because your UKRS still isnt working clearly
17:50:40  <Dom_> i see
17:52:03  <V453000> and knowing readmes is the only way to know newGRFs, so off you go :)
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17:52:55  <Dom_>
17:52:55  <Webster> Title: Luke Bryan You Don't Know Jack (Album) Jack Daniels Tribute, Length: 3m 12s, Views: 1043516, Likes: 2394
17:52:59  <Dom_> :D
17:53:27  <V453000> not opening it after seeing 20seconds of the last one
17:54:04  <Dom_> why?
17:54:20  <Dom_> its a song about jack daniels :D
17:54:27  <Dom_> even though i don't drink that shit
17:54:55  <V453000> your music is dangerous
17:57:39  <Dom_> :D
17:58:30  <Dom_>
17:58:30  <Webster> Title: Loch Lomond (HQ) - All State Men's choir 08-09, Length: 4m 20s, Views: 49744, Likes: 329
17:58:49  <V453000> nop
17:59:02  <Dom_> its scotish
17:59:11  <V453000> doesnt matter
17:59:17  <Dom_> and old like shit
17:59:18  <V453000> name smells of gayshit
17:59:21  <Dom_> lol
17:59:40  <V453000> go listen to this bitch
17:59:40  <V453000>
17:59:40  <Webster> Title: Vol. 3 Epic Legendary Intense Massive Heroic Vengeful Dramatic Music Mix - 1 Hour Long, Length: 1h 8m 4s, Views: 394176, Likes: 3667
17:59:46  <V453000> see?
17:59:48  <V453000> motherfucker
18:01:38  <Dom_> sec
18:04:47  <Dom_>
18:04:47  <Webster> Title: Masters Of Ceremony - Dirt [HQ], Length: 4m 33s, Views: 32733, Likes: 166
18:04:50  <Dom_> !
18:05:52  <V453000> OMFG hardstyle
18:05:54  <V453000> jesus fuck
18:06:11  <BiG_MeEcH> no way
18:06:27  <Dom_> hardstyle o_O
18:06:38  <Dom_> hardcore :D
18:06:39  <BiG_MeEcH> ladies love it Hardstyle from Big Meech
18:07:01  <Dom_> hardstyle -->
18:07:01  <Webster> Title: Technoboy - Next Dimensional World (Qlimax 2008 Anthem)HQ, Length: 4m 56s, Views: 2634544, Likes: 7727
18:07:57  <Dom_> gabba ---->
18:07:57  <Webster> Title: Object One - Ping Pong (Isaac Mix), Length: 4m 11s, Views: 2630, Likes: 18
18:08:26  <Dom_> and i almost sopped listening to that stuff
18:09:04  <Dom_> and now mostly rock n roll, country, stoner music :D, some classic and ex-yu rock
18:09:44  <BiG_MeEcH> STONER MUSIC
18:10:25  <Dom_>
18:10:25  <Webster> Title: Willie Nelson - Roll Me Up And Smoke Me When I Die (Snoop Dogg, Jamey Johnson, Kris Kristofferson), Length: 3m 26s, Views: 314759, Likes: 1953
18:12:43  <BiG_MeEcH> hurry up with the new map :P
18:13:59  <Dom_> will you finally build something?
18:14:10  <Dom_> instead of just eating :P
18:14:23  <BiG_MeEcH> gotta leave soon
18:14:34  <Dom_>
18:14:35  <BiG_MeEcH> and I did build, last night
18:14:49  <Dom_> look at the station now
18:14:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I am
18:15:05  <Dom_> i did some changes swell^^
18:15:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I see
18:15:27  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
18:15:30  <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game
18:15:57  <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #2
18:15:57  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
18:17:26  <BiG_MeEcH> looks nice
18:17:29  <Dom_>
18:17:29  <Webster> Title: Luke Bryan - Take My Drunk Ass Home, Length: 3m 21s, Views: 3758894, Likes: 12881
18:17:31  <Dom_> :)
18:22:57  <Stablean> <Dom> aaaa
18:23:13  <Stablean> <Dom> LOL
18:23:29  <Stablean> <Dom> LOL!!!
18:23:37  <Stablean> <Dom> god damn water
18:24:59  <Stablean> <Dom> hmm water kills trains
18:25:02  <Stablean> <Dom> who knew...
18:27:25  <Stablean> <Dom> so new map?
18:31:56  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things  dom and hi
18:31:58  <Stablean> <Dom> hi
18:32:00  <Stablean> <Dom> well and you
18:32:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
18:32:10  <Stablean> <Dom> V you still here?
18:36:53  <V453000> nop
18:37:23  <Dom_> new map?
18:37:33  <Dom_> new luck :D
18:37:54  <Dom_> or are you to terrorised from my music :D
18:49:04  <Dom_> so no new map?
18:49:09  <Dom_> :(
18:53:52  <bug_sniper> !companies
18:53:55  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 1 (Green): Sutbourne Transport
18:53:55  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 2 (Blue): Forever Alone
18:53:55  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 3 (Orange): Diablo Transport
18:53:55  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 4 (Red): thepower12n Transport
18:53:55  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 5 (White): Andy Transport
18:53:56  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 6 (Dark Blue): RTM Transport
18:53:56  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 7 (Mauve): upset trans sport Transport
18:53:58  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 8 (Grey): Reichsbahn Transport
18:53:58  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 9 (Dark Green): - -
18:54:00  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 10 (Light Blue): temp Transport
18:54:00  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 11 (Yellow): iTKerry(UA) Transport
18:54:02  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 12 (Cream): Cargolux
18:54:02  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 13 (Pink): my refit version
18:54:03  <Dom_> :(
18:54:04  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 14 (Purple): Rex Connors Transport
18:54:30  <bug_sniper> !players
18:54:32  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Client 390 is happy tran  sport, a spectator
18:54:32  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Client 243 is Anson, a spectator
18:54:32  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Client 387 is Big Meech, a spectator
18:54:32  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Client 393 (Blue) is Dom, in company 2 (Forever Alone)
19:02:29  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how muney   players  on irc dom
19:02:43  <Stablean> <Dom> idk many
19:04:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem     is sylf   is  on ther  u can try arsk  hem  to   port your map  on  this server
19:04:39  <Stablean> <Dom> no one wants to put a the new map up
19:05:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  ok have u  try to doo it  your self
19:05:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> or can u not doo that
19:06:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> on  this  sever
19:06:22  <Stablean> <Dom> i have no op
19:06:37  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
19:08:31  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice  wood  drop  of and  nice wood net werk  dom
19:12:09  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2
19:12:17  <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #13
19:12:30  <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #2
19:13:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> new map? :)
19:15:33  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> we tying  to get sume to  up  load  the map  big  but no won  whonts to  doo it
19:15:53  <BiG_MeEcH> !slap V453000
19:15:55  <Stablean> <Dom> i made a map but seems like no one wants to upload it :(:(
19:16:03  * BiG_MeEcH slaps V453000 around a bit with a large fishbot
19:16:11  <Stablean> <Dom> xDD
19:16:29  <Stablean> <Dom> btw meech we now have a third ^^
19:16:46  <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game
19:16:50  <BiG_MeEcH> NO WAY
19:17:01  <Stablean> <Dom> yes way
19:17:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> impossible
19:17:34  <Stablean> <Dom> its just for now
19:17:48  <Stablean> <Dom> since two lines are joining up there happy :)
19:17:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> then you ened to add more trains
19:18:00  <Stablean> <Dom> and the station maybe getting a bit small
19:18:15  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer i see that
19:18:57  <Stablean> <Big Meech> something wrong after you added 3rd going left
19:19:03  <Stablean> <Dom> its gonna take about 5  mins for the traffic to clear
19:19:03  <Stablean> <Big Meech> most trains are taking the new lane
19:19:13  <Stablean> <Dom> ofc
19:19:19  <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving)
19:19:23  <Stablean> <Dom> since its only connected to sidelines
19:19:41  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #2
19:19:47  <V453000> BiG_MeEcH: wat u want bitch
19:19:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> won  day i am going  to  try to  doo sum thin like this
19:20:07  <Stablean> <Dom> everyday is a good day :)
19:20:13  <Stablean> <Dom> New map!!!
19:20:24  <BiG_MeEcH> lol
19:22:26  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> woo   diablo  has a tran q
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19:23:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> so many trains
19:24:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> is there a reason why we have PBS on a split for bridges?
19:24:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> at !here
19:24:44  <Stablean> <Dom> i've tried with pre signals
19:24:54  <Stablean> <Dom> but it seems no difference
19:25:01  <Stablean> <Dom> the both stack a bit but i do not know why
19:25:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> other lanes act fine =s
19:25:26  <Stablean> <Dom> maybe the gap for tl3 isnt 9
19:25:32  <Stablean> <Dom> i know
19:25:39  <Stablean> <Dom> its a bit weird but fuck it :D
19:25:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> we should add another bridge! :D
19:25:56  <Stablean> <Dom> no
19:26:00  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
19:26:02  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yes
19:26:17  <Stablean> <Dom> go ahead
19:26:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> we will need faster bridges with the monorail update
19:26:30  <Stablean> <Dom> yep
19:29:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
19:30:02  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
19:30:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi
19:30:13  <Stablean> <Dom> ?!?!
19:30:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi!!!!
19:30:29  <Stablean> <Dom> votekick Meech
19:30:47  <Stablean> <Dom> he's a weird american
19:31:17  <Stablean> <Dom> +
19:33:16  <Stablean> <Dom> Big Meech:  why so sirius?
19:33:19  <Stablean> <Dom> *o
19:33:30  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
19:34:01  <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game
19:34:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem  tran  74    is lost     and  tran     147  and   204
19:36:33  <Dom_>
19:36:34  <Webster> Title: Livestreams des laufenden Programms - ORF TVthek (at
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19:37:06  <LiveFreeOrLagHard> !ip
19:37:06  <Stablean> LiveFreeOrLagHard:
19:39:21  <Stablean> *** LiveFreeOrLagHard joined the game
19:39:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ol
19:39:35  <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Hello
19:39:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi
19:39:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
19:39:58  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators
19:40:39  <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Oh noes, traffic jams
19:41:08  <Stablean> <thepower12n> where?
19:41:28  <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Drop Station
19:41:38  <Stablean> <thepower12n> thats just a small que;p
19:41:40  <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Conveniently named "Drop"
19:41:43  <Stablean> <thepower12n> no jam only 25 trains
19:41:54  <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Only... Yeah, exactly :p
19:42:22  <Stablean> <thepower12n> oh wait it are 50 trains already:P starting to form a minor jam
19:42:36  <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> You know, it's only a minor que.
19:43:26  <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Problem is you can't really jam more loading bays in there
19:44:05  <Stablean> <thepower12n> you could but you need to remove 1 side first and build it 3/6 tiles away
19:44:51  <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Building another terminal by the seaside?
19:45:13  <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Getting nice income from those trains though
19:45:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I dont think that station can get any bigger at all
19:46:29  <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> limit is set to 64, right?
19:46:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> no, 14 actually
19:47:09  <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Oh, yeah, then you don't have a lot to work with
19:48:11  <Stablean> *** LiveFreeOrLagHard has left the game (leaving)
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19:48:20  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost)
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19:56:00  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators
19:56:00  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
19:57:07  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
19:57:07  <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game
19:57:16  <Stablean> <Diablo> hello
19:58:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi diablo
19:59:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> u had  a tran q  at your  goods  drop of but i fixs it
19:59:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> diablo
20:01:35  *** ODM has quit IRC
20:02:49  <Stablean> <Diablo> what did u do anyways?
20:03:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ther  was   sume  thin  that shord not  been ther  so i   remove it
20:04:03  <Stablean> <Diablo> signal?
20:04:10  <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined company #3
20:04:10  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
20:04:28  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
20:05:06  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #3
20:07:55  <Stablean> <Diablo> wow, that was unexpected
20:08:22  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
20:13:34  <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game
20:24:10  <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving)
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20:49:52  <Stablean> <Diablo> bb
20:49:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb
20:50:00  <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving)
21:02:32  <V453000> !getsave
21:02:36  <Stablean> V453000: OK :-)
21:02:44  <V453000> !rcon ls
21:02:44  <Stablean> V453000: 0) .. (Parent directory)
21:02:44  <Stablean> V453000: 1) archive/ (Directory)
21:02:44  <Stablean> V453000: 2) welcome 29.08.sav
21:02:44  <Stablean> V453000: 3) Welcome 26.08.sav
21:02:44  <Stablean> V453000: 4) StableNUTS82.sav
21:02:46  <Stablean> V453000: you have 200 more messages
21:02:50  <V453000> !players
21:02:52  <Stablean> V453000: Client 390 (Orange) is happy tran  sport, in company 3 (Diablo Transport)
21:02:52  <Stablean> V453000: Client 243 is Anson, a spectator
21:02:52  <Stablean> V453000: Client 407 is Big Meech, a spectator
21:04:10  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators
21:04:10  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
21:14:00  <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#13)
21:14:00  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
21:14:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> new comp? :)
21:15:06  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout)
21:15:06  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost)
21:24:40  <Stablean> *** happy tran  sport has left the game (leaving)
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21:26:37  <Stablean> *** RTM has left the game (connection lost)
21:28:23  <Stablean> <Anson> Forever Alone has a little queue of 20 trains ...
21:28:29  <Stablean> <Anson> ... in a depot
21:31:07  <Stablean> <Anson> the reversers are too unbalanced ... there are 3 drop platforms and the trains split 2:1 in the reversers, thus one pair of pick platforms is working at or above max capacity while on the other pair only one platform is used
21:32:51  <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators
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21:33:08  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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21:34:29  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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21:54:01  <V453000> !rcon load 2
21:54:25  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
21:54:36  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
21:54:37  <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game
22:05:05  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
22:05:05  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game
22:05:37  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has started a new company (#2)
22:05:37  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
22:26:32  <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game
22:35:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  anson
22:48:28  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
22:48:38  <Stablean> <Anson> another game without TF costs ???
22:50:38  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> big  meech
22:52:20  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> anson  can u doo me a faver
22:54:06  <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#1)
23:09:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> D:
23:09:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> big  meech   can u  doo mea faver
23:10:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ? :)
23:10:30  <bug_sniper> !companies
23:10:33  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 1 (Mauve): Anson Transport
23:10:33  <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 2 (Dark Blue): happy tran  sport Transport
23:10:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i need  togo to bed  but i need  sume won to  ade   trans  to  the new  coal   mine
23:11:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> munnville mines?
23:11:21  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #2
23:11:57  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yeah, I see it
23:12:00  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators
23:12:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you need more $ first
23:12:22  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
23:15:52  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has started a new company (#3)
23:17:05  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> big  when  i get  the muney can  u ade  the trans  for me
23:17:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I said I would
23:18:15  <Stablean> *** solo joined the game
23:18:26  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  solo
23:18:28  <Stablean> <solo> hey
23:18:34  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how things
23:18:45  <Stablean> <solo> headache, but apart from that im fine, you?
23:19:03  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
23:20:15  <V453000> Anson make a better map, otherwise your whining is ignored
23:20:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
23:21:15  <Stablean> <solo> hurts me eyes :D. Hi V
23:21:29  <V453000> hi
23:21:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Damn not give n xD
23:21:47  <bug_sniper> I actually thought that bender rules sign was clever
23:23:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Hi V
23:24:17  <V453000> OMG HY
23:24:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hy
23:25:54  <Stablean> *** solo has left the game (leaving)
23:28:51  <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game
23:28:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> OMGHI
23:29:01  <Stablean> <V453000> yolo
23:29:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> why dont the heavy trains go downhill faster than their maximum speed?
23:30:33  <Stablean> <Big Meech> is inflation off? :)
23:30:39  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think you need brake vans btw
23:30:42  <Stablean> <V453000> unube
23:31:30  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ah, you're right
23:32:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> every other time you need the brake van
23:32:22  <Stablean> <V453000> except never
23:32:22  <Stablean> <V453000> almost
23:32:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> shup :P
23:32:44  <Stablean> <V453000> you mean slug
23:33:27  <Stablean> <V453000> THE COLOR CHANGE WONT HELP
23:33:38  <Stablean> <V453000> ASDF
23:33:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> YOU WONT HELP: P
23:34:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ?????????????????????0
23:34:31  <Stablean> <V453000> AFH"OSDUGHOIASD !!!
23:37:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> better save some $ for trains Anson
23:51:01  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
23:51:18  <V453000> I hereby believe Meech is the reason why I have to wake up for work
23:51:19  <V453000> gnight
23:51:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
23:51:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> seeya
23:57:07  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok 4   mor trans for the uver coal  mine and  then  i got to go to bed

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