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00:31:19 *** bug_sniper has joined #openttdcoop.stable 01:26:28 *** bug_sniper has quit IRC 01:48:24 *** bug_sniper has joined #openttdcoop.stable 02:19:27 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 02:19:27 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 02:20:29 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #9 02:20:29 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 02:27:25 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo 02:27:29 <Stablean> <Sylf> yo 02:27:35 <bug_sniper> !companies 02:27:38 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 1 (Green): Sutbourne Transport 02:27:38 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 2 (Blue): Forever Alone 02:27:38 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 3 (Orange): Diablo Transport 02:27:38 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 4 (Red): thepower12n Transport 02:27:38 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 5 (White): Andy Transport 02:27:40 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 6 (Dark Blue): RTM Transport 02:27:40 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 7 (Mauve): upset trans sport Transport 02:27:42 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 8 (Grey): Reichsbahn Transport 02:27:42 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 9 (Dark Green): - - 02:27:44 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 10 (Light Blue): temp Transport 02:27:44 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 11 (Yellow): iTKerry(UA) Transport 02:27:46 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 12 (Cream): Cargolux 02:28:29 <Stablean> <Big Meech> did someoone wtf tf your shit too? 02:28:59 <Stablean> <Sylf> not my area 02:29:19 <Stablean> <Sylf> i do see some signs of major TFs 02:29:20 <BiG_MeEcH> ah, alright 02:30:27 <Stablean> <Sylf> what? do you still expect people to actually read? 02:30:37 <Stablean> <Sylf> and comprehend? 02:30:41 <BiG_MeEcH> no way 02:30:43 <Stablean> <Sylf> and follow the rules? 02:30:51 <BiG_MeEcH> they f'ed up dom's area 02:31:19 <Stablean> <Sylf> I thought that was dom himself 02:31:29 <Stablean> <Sylf> the area with SH*P 02:32:15 <Stablean> <Sylf> but srsly, what do you expect when TF is so cheap? 02:36:14 <Stablean> <Sylf> hrmmm 02:36:20 <Stablean> <Sylf> I need more capacity... 02:40:31 <BiG_MeEcH> :D 02:40:38 <BiG_MeEcH> I don't think Dom did all of that terraforming 02:41:28 <BiG_MeEcH> I would have thought that he would tell me if he did that :) 02:43:42 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 02:43:42 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 04:00:29 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 04:02:41 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #2 04:04:10 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 04:05:03 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :) 04:05:05 <Stablean> <Big Meech> care if I join ? 04:05:13 <Stablean> <Sylf> go ahead 04:05:20 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #9 04:05:52 <Stablean> <Big Meech> so hi :) 04:08:22 <Stablean> <Big Meech> paper mill could use some more trains but unsure if you're okay with the capacity 04:08:53 <Stablean> <Sylf> the stations should be expanded first 04:08:56 <Stablean> <Sylf> probably 04:09:06 <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm maybe not 04:09:16 <Stablean> <Sylf> I think the drop needs to be expanded 04:10:50 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Im not sure 04:12:28 <Stablean> <Big Meech> we gonna use that oh haha 04:12:31 <Stablean> <Big Meech> change on the fly :D 04:13:17 <Stablean> <Big Meech> backwards slugs are funny 04:13:47 <Stablean> <Sylf> now you can add more paper trains 04:14:09 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I added 4 04:14:36 <bug_sniper> I did a bit of TF too 04:14:40 <Stablean> <Big Meech> thats a lot of boxes 04:14:54 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Some TF is okay but what they did around Dom isnt okay 04:14:58 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I dont know who did though =\ 04:15:04 <bug_sniper> I was able to connect an oil rig to a refinery by making a peninsula for a train line 04:15:10 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I saw that :D 04:15:50 <Stablean> *** upset trans sport joined the game 04:17:21 <Stablean> <upset trans sport> what happened, dom? 04:17:35 <Stablean> <Big Meech> someone decided to lower terrain all over 04:17:39 <Stablean> <upset trans sport> oh 04:17:47 <Stablean> <upset trans sport> i thought someone build a mountain in your way 04:17:53 <Stablean> <upset trans sport> built 04:18:47 <Stablean> <upset trans sport> care to put a sign where it happened? 04:18:57 <Stablean> <upset trans sport> also, what happened to the bender rules island? 04:19:03 <Stablean> <Big Meech> just look near dredwood woods 04:19:17 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Bender rules was taken care of by Dom I guess 04:19:48 <Stablean> <upset trans sport> well, near dreadwood, I can see a mountain 04:19:56 <Stablean> <Big Meech> the paper mill 04:20:02 <Stablean> <Big Meech> they lowered terrain all over 04:20:28 <Stablean> <upset trans sport> well, it's flat, but I don't know what happened there 04:20:40 <Stablean> <upset trans sport> let me try something 04:21:03 <Stablean> <upset trans sport> ok, so it worked 04:21:26 <Stablean> <upset trans sport> I was able to disintegrate a chunk of your island on a corner 04:23:48 <Stablean> <Big Meech> well it looks like there is no paper waiting now 04:24:46 <Stablean> <upset trans sport> my guess is that temp transport did something, because the company shows up on dredwood's reputation page 04:25:00 <Stablean> <Sylf> D: no more boxes 04:25:07 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I doubt it 04:25:25 <Stablean> <Big Meech> do you want tons of boxes? :) 04:28:15 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh well, I still have boxes at other two locations 04:28:29 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 04:28:43 <Stablean> <Big Meech> no boxes! 04:29:02 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, Fenninghall depots seem to be stable now .... at 60 trains waiting for release :-) 04:29:12 <Stablean> <Big Meech> good 04:29:44 <Stablean> <Sylf> that sounds just stupid... 04:33:50 <Stablean> <Sylf> those refit orders... 04:34:04 <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm looking at train 150 for now 04:34:14 <Stablean> <Sylf> that train's order #7 is not needed 04:34:24 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Dom was in charge of the orders 04:34:42 <Stablean> <Sylf> there is a gap between "less than 96" and "more than 97" as well 04:35:00 <Stablean> <Big Meech> so one would have to be 96 or 97? 04:35:18 <Stablean> <Sylf> you just don't put two conditionals like that 04:35:20 <Stablean> <Sylf> you only need 1 04:35:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> maybe he needs a new lesson or something :S 04:35:48 <Stablean> <Sylf> or, you say "less than 96%" for one ,and "more than or equal to 96%" for the other 04:37:23 <Stablean> <Sylf> also, I have a question... what purpose does the waypoint fenninghall play? 04:37:58 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I'd assume that Dom thought it was needed so trains wouldnt get lost 04:38:17 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, I think I know 04:38:35 <Stablean> <Anson> such waypoints are needed when using double depots 04:38:49 <Stablean> <Sylf> the depot (refit) order might get skipped without the waypoint because the depot is behind the reverser. 04:38:51 <Stablean> <Sylf> dunno. 04:39:05 <Stablean> <Sylf> that logic doesn't apply here, anson 04:39:19 <Stablean> <Sylf> since the split is placed before the waypoints 04:39:57 <Stablean> <Anson> WP, orders, etc are similar to a refitting station :-) 04:40:07 <Stablean> <Sylf> what? 04:40:13 <Stablean> <Sylf> this IS a refit station 04:40:15 <Stablean> <Anson> maybe he looked at one and tried to copy it .... 04:40:29 <Stablean> <Anson> * TRIED :-) 04:41:44 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 04:41:49 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 04:42:03 <Stablean> <Anson> the refitting depot shouldn't have the twoway signal ... that is used for overflows, but a refitting station should take care of all trains or cause a jam so that you see it :-) 04:44:33 <Sylf> what? 04:44:56 <Sylf> how does the twoway signal cause the jam in this case? 04:45:12 <Stablean> <Anson> it hides the jam 04:45:47 <Stablean> <Anson> without the 2way, trains would jam not in the depot, but in the station, and you would be able to see that 04:46:35 <Stablean> <Anson> what sense does it make to have an overflow in the middle of a refitting station ? 04:46:38 <Sylf> how does it hide the jam? 04:47:30 <Sylf> That depot is NOT an overflow 04:47:37 <Sylf> It is a refit depot. 04:47:44 <Stablean> <Big Meech> there is no overflow 04:47:53 <Sylf> You are right about it not needing the twoway signal, but it is NOT the cause of the jam 04:48:00 <Stablean> <Anson> but the 2way signal makes an overflow depot out of the refitting depot 04:48:10 <Sylf> no 04:48:13 <Stablean> <Big Meech> there isnt enough capacity the way it is now apparently 04:48:33 <Stablean> <Anson> not the cause ... but with it, you don't see the jam if you don't inspect the depots 04:48:47 <Stablean> <Anson> that's what i meant with "hides the jam" 04:49:00 <Sylf> But still, how does the twoway signal cause the build up? How does the twoway signal hide the jam? 04:49:01 <Stablean> <Big Meech> well there is no jam 04:49:19 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #2 04:49:24 <Sylf> Two way or one way signal in this case makes no difference. 04:49:33 <Sylf> It is the fact that those are EXIT signal that matters. 04:49:44 <Stablean> <Anson> open the depot ... 60 trains in the middle of a refitting station is what i call a jam :-)# 04:50:13 <Sylf> Read my last line. 04:52:32 <Stablean> <Anson> and the cause of that jam is the throughput ... 6 platforms for drop, mostly well used at capacity limit, and only 4 platforms for the pick ... should be 6 too ... and then it also should be better balanced 04:52:59 <Stablean> <Big Meech> well what i have noticed now is that the trains are preferring to go to the station closer to the left than the right 04:54:58 <Stablean> <Anson> what i have noticved is that single trains go to one reverser, and only a second following train goes to the other ... thus it is unbalanced in two ways : left3 vs right 3, and then the reversers 04:58:11 <Sylf> Even if it's balanced at the reverser, the overall effect is still the same. 04:58:23 <Stablean> <Big Meech> will this work better? 04:58:31 <Sylf> Instead of having 60 trains queued in one depot, you will have 30 each trains in two depots 04:58:43 <Stablean> <Anson> should work better now 04:59:17 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 04:59:21 <Stablean> <Big Meech> well not totally 04:59:28 <Stablean> <Big Meech> if not full would have to get larger too 04:59:54 <Stablean> <Anson> the unbalance of 60 vs 0 will remain ... it is caused by how the two reversers are constructed 05:00:06 <Stablean> <Sylf> can I make some changes 05:00:09 <Stablean> <Big Meech> sure 05:00:17 <Sylf> !players 05:00:20 <Stablean> Sylf: Client 334 is Sylf, a spectator 05:00:20 <Stablean> Sylf: Client 243 is Anson, a spectator 05:00:20 <Stablean> Sylf: Client 325 (Blue) is Big Meech, in company 2 (Forever Alone) 05:00:20 <Stablean> Sylf: Client 329 (Mauve) is upset trans sport, in company 7 (upset trans sport Transport) 05:00:25 <Sylf> !rcon move 334 2 05:00:25 <Stablean> Sylf: *** Sylf has joined company #2 05:00:30 <Stablean> <Anson> but they can now leave the depot faster (filled from three platforms, released to three platforms 05:01:10 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I guess he only wants 100% filled trains to deliver shit 05:01:53 <Stablean> <Anson> no ... 97+ % :-) 05:02:05 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lets call that a full train :D 05:05:43 <Stablean> <Sylf> well 05:06:53 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to temp 05:08:25 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh this is confusing. 05:08:27 <Stablean> <Big Meech> can't you make a conditional order for it to wait to be 100% full ? 05:08:43 <Stablean> <Sylf> compare the orders between trains 5 and 30 05:09:10 <Stablean> <Sylf> wait for 100% load is simply "wait for full load" order 05:09:29 <Stablean> <Sylf> and you never want to do that with refit games 05:09:55 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I can't help if the orders are wrong between those 2 trains 05:10:01 <Stablean> <Big Meech> is the output always going to be lower? 05:10:16 <Stablean> <Anson> lower or equal 05:10:27 <Stablean> <Sylf> what equal? 05:10:41 <Stablean> <Anson> at station rating 100% and with this indistry set, it should be equal 05:10:59 <Stablean> <Anson> drop 100 wood and get 100 paper 05:11:39 <Stablean> <Sylf> consider 100% rating to be practically impossible. 05:11:53 <Stablean> <Big Meech> to me it would make more sense if dom had made the orders to leave the station whenever even if not 80% full whatever, but he didnt want empty trains goign to the paper drop 05:14:04 <Stablean> <Anson> on my own refit stations, i use a single platform for three commands :-) ...first try a normal partial load, then test : if load >50 then wait for fulll load, else unload 05:14:28 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I need more exp with refit 05:14:55 <Stablean> <Sylf> using single station doesn't give you any benefit or setback 05:15:13 <Stablean> <Anson> with the extra unload platform, it works faster, but conditionals and layout might be more complicated when also doing the full load 05:15:49 <Stablean> <Sylf> What? 05:15:51 <Stablean> <Sylf> You lost me again 05:17:07 <Stablean> <Anson> i use a single platform ... normal load at near end, then test for 50% ... if less than unload at far end ... if >50% then wait for full load 05:17:54 <Stablean> <Anson> that works fine, but throughput might be a bit lower compared to this solution of unloadin on another platform instead of unloading at far end 05:18:04 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 05:18:04 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 05:18:16 <Stablean> <Sylf> I don't see any difference between using separate station or same station 05:18:34 <Stablean> <Anson> you mean platform ? not station !? 05:18:40 <Stablean> <Sylf> what? 05:19:09 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 05:19:31 <Stablean> <Big Meech> heh, profit chart went up with some simple shit 05:19:42 <Stablean> <Anson> the platforms behind "if not full" belong to the pick station ... unloading is done there, and thus another train can follow and already try loading 05:21:32 <Sylf> there are ways to avoid build-ups with that designs too. 05:24:57 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 05:27:09 <Stablean> <Anson> depots are empty now (plus or minus one) 05:28:25 <Stablean> *** temp has left the game (leaving) 05:30:22 <Stablean> <Big Meech> no more trains in depot =S 05:30:32 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 05:30:54 <Stablean> <Anson> i notived that already 3 minutes ago :-) 05:31:04 <Stablean> <Anson> -v +c 05:31:27 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 05:32:02 <Sylf> by not using the exit signals, the trains are less likely to build up in one most favored depot 05:32:13 <Stablean> <Anson> did you also see that the drop platforms are used more now ? ... since there are more trains on the road (on the rail) instead of in the depot 05:32:13 <Sylf> it sure helps to have more pickup platforms too 05:32:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> ah yes, thank you for designing the other 05:35:13 <Stablean> <Anson> i think that my version might work a little bit better : i put the drop and pick platforms next to each other, and each pair gets its own depot ... thus 6 drop, 6 pick and 6 depots ... using the depots as reverser, and thus it takes only a few tiles instead of the big reverser 05:35:23 <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#13) 05:48:00 <Stablean> <Anson> just to show how i do it, i have built a template ... two platforms next to each other, and the whole reverser+depot takes only 5 tiles space (2x3 tiles) 05:49:14 <Stablean> <Anson> in the depot is train 1 with those orders which i use (handling load, unload and full load on the same platform) 05:50:54 <Stablean> <Anson> much smaller than this version, and even gives each drop/pick pair its own depot 05:52:08 <Stablean> <Anson> (instead of a merge, split, large reverser, depot, and another merge/split) 05:55:35 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 05:55:43 <Stablean> <Diablo> hello 05:56:05 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined company #3 05:58:13 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 05:58:13 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 05:58:31 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (processing map took too long) 05:58:31 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 05:58:35 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, diablo 05:58:48 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 05:59:09 <Sylf> Anson, I think one of the goal of this design is to hide the depots behind the reverser 05:59:19 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, sylf ... what do you think of my small version for the refitter ? 05:59:40 <Sylf> also, next time you build a sample like that, please build it away from other players 05:59:49 <Stablean> <Anson> yes, that is the big disadvantage of my version ... visible depots 05:59:55 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 06:00:39 <Sylf> you REALLY should go through the PS archives and see more different styles of refit stations. 06:00:41 <Stablean> <Anson> i put it next to the station to compare it ... and it can easily be deleted (put up a sign for that purpose :-) 06:01:09 <Sylf> I've seen you only use that style of design for refit stations 06:01:21 <Stablean> <Anson> besides the visible depot, what do you think of the compactness ? 06:01:38 <Sylf> I've used it. It's okay. 06:01:43 <Sylf> Not that small either. 06:01:45 <Stablean> <Anson> and to me it is special : i have invented it, not copied 06:02:38 <Sylf> before you sell your ideas to others, really, please study other designs too. 06:02:45 <Stablean> <Anson> no patent for it; i wasn't the first to do that one ... but nonetheless, i invented it :-) 06:22:31 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, new version with invisible depot ... size 2x14 for TL3, instead of 5x17 :-) 06:23:49 <Stablean> <Anson> and with width=2, it can be copied any number of times without modification, up to the max station spread 06:24:52 <V453000> ._. 06:25:03 <V453000> seen the archives or @@ABR11 ? 06:25:04 <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 11: Refit Stations at #openttdcoop - http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/02/16/advanced-building-revue-11-refit-stations/ 06:25:16 <V453000> or junctionary, there is probably some too 06:26:39 <Stablean> <Anson> i once read all ABR, but understood not even half of it at that time ... will have another look again, soon ... 06:27:26 <V453000> it is more like about "I find info when I need it" rather than "I read everything once" 06:28:16 <Stablean> <Anson> i always have problems finding the ABR ... didn't find a function like @@ABR in the wiki 06:28:53 <V453000> there is a direct link from the main page 06:28:56 <V453000> or from my user page 06:32:11 <Stablean> <Diablo> yo anson, what do u think of my insane layout for 'Plendinghall Woods'? 06:33:06 <Stablean> *** upset trans sport has left the game (leaving) 06:33:38 <Stablean> <Anson> where on that page is the link to the ABRs ? ... i only see "older entries" and then go through page after page until i might find a specific ABR 06:34:07 <V453000> wiki.openttdcoop.org not blog.openttdcoop.org 06:36:24 <Stablean> <Anson> ah ... found it now :-) 06:37:06 <Stablean> <Anson> last line in the ABC :-) 06:38:54 *** Taede has quit IRC 06:39:48 <Stablean> <Anson> layered layout ... looks nice at first sight ... but what i find really insane are all those curves and loops that you build :-) 06:40:18 <Stablean> <Anson> looks like something which is built by the AI :-) 06:40:46 <Stablean> <Diablo> its the only way i can think of for that small area 06:41:16 <Stablean> <Anson> I'm just looking at Printston Woods ... 06:42:12 <Stablean> <Diablo> my comment covers all station areas 06:42:30 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop.stable 06:43:30 <Stablean> <Anson> look at Printston Valley ... wouldn't that work too, without 270 degree exit ? 06:44:55 *** Dom__ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 06:45:44 <Stablean> <Diablo> not really...there was an industry where ur stn is and too lazy to rlocate the sidings 06:46:19 <Stablean> <Anson> ah, blocked tiles explain something ... 06:47:39 <Stablean> <Anson> i like rollercoasters :-) ... but is that big 8-loop necessary ? 06:48:29 <Stablean> <Diablo> not really, i just want to get rid of some $$$$ 06:50:03 <Stablean> <Anson> i spend my €€€ by rebuilding such beasts a few times :-) 06:50:20 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 06:50:20 *** Dom__ is now known as Dom_ 06:53:25 <Stablean> <Anson> another platform at Plarfinghill probably won't help ... what about rebuilding it as roro ? :-) 06:53:52 <Stablean> <Diablo> its used more than i expected 06:59:43 <Stablean> <Anson> having a closer look, i see that you don't have a network at all ... but 4 ot 5 separate tracks 07:00:29 <Stablean> <Diablo> small island with little commodities = no ml 07:02:11 <Stablean> <Anson> there is one rail missing :-) at !misrail 07:02:33 <Stablean> <Anson> no entry from right bridge to depot 07:03:07 <Stablean> <Diablo> thx for pointing that out :) 07:03:29 <Stablean> <Anson> i like the "finetuning" :-) 07:07:09 <Stablean> <Anson> I'm currently testing a map that i made ... 17 or 18 islands, and all of them have the same resources ... at least at the start of the map before some of them decay 07:07:47 <Stablean> <Anson> would be nice if people that join a few years later also would have the same resources and industries 07:08:18 <Stablean> <Diablo> isnt there a setting for industry longevity? 07:09:08 <Stablean> <Anson> how can that be done best ? ... there is a grf that freezes everything, butt hen nothing will disappear :-) and also nothing new will span :-( 07:09:36 <Stablean> <Diablo> thats called the pause button lol 07:09:56 <Stablean> <Anson> show me how to use that button here in MP 07:10:14 <Stablean> <Diablo> only admin has priviledges 07:11:16 <Stablean> <Anson> the wet trains remind me of RCT :-) 07:11:30 <Stablean> <Anson> just like all your loops etc 07:11:32 <Stablean> <Diablo> rct? 07:11:47 <Stablean> <Anson> roller coaster tycoon 07:11:57 <Stablean> <Diablo> ooooh 07:12:11 <Stablean> <Anson> same author as TT 07:21:07 <Stablean> *** MaximUA joined the game 07:21:34 <Stablean> *** MaximUA has left the game (leaving) 07:24:44 <Stablean> *** Rex Connors has started a new company (#14) 07:24:47 <Stablean> *** Rex Connors joined the game 07:25:56 <Stablean> <Anson> what do you think of my refit station ? ... i like to invent such things myself, even when other people already have done similar or better 07:26:38 <Stablean> <Anson> will have a look at what other people did, like V suggested ... @@ABR11 07:26:39 <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 11: Refit Stations at #openttdcoop - http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/02/16/advanced-building-revue-11-refit-stations/ 07:27:18 <Stablean> <Diablo> is that a scaled down vrsion of how u do it? 07:27:48 <Stablean> <Anson> scaled up :-) 07:28:06 <Stablean> <Anson> usually, i use a much smaller version, but that has a visible depot 07:28:56 <Stablean> <Anson> that is my version with vis depot 07:29:10 <Stablean> <Anson> only the platforms and then 2x3 tiles behind it 07:30:45 <Stablean> <Anson> since V told me that the blue company probably had used big reversers to hide the depot, i tried to merge the two : longer reverser on mine, so that the depot becomed invis too 07:31:48 <Stablean> <Anson> but i took care that the width is only 2 tiles ... thus you can put them next to each other as long as you want (up to station spread) without need to change the layout 07:33:00 <Stablean> <Anson> the template that i have built here is for TL2 07:33:27 <Stablean> <Rex Connors> Hey anson, why did blue buy up all the land around dredwood stations 07:34:21 <Stablean> <Anson> probably so that no industries appear there while the station is rebuilt ... and then didn't remove that reservation 07:34:35 <Stablean> <Rex Connors> Ah :P thanks 07:39:35 <Stablean> <Anson> diablo, you have too few unloading platforms for coal ... and a single bridge in the track ... coal is piling up now at the pickup station 07:46:05 <Stablean> *** Rex Connors has left the game (leaving) 07:53:01 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 07:53:06 <Stablean> <Dom> hi 07:53:12 <Stablean> <Diablo> hi 07:59:28 <Stablean> <Diablo> bb 07:59:34 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined spectators 07:59:38 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 08:04:25 <V453000> hyyyyy 08:05:20 <bug_sniper> !companies 08:05:23 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 1 (Green): Sutbourne Transport 08:05:23 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 2 (Blue): Forever Alone 08:05:23 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 3 (Orange): Diablo Transport 08:05:23 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 4 (Red): thepower12n Transport 08:05:23 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 5 (White): Andy Transport 08:05:24 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 6 (Dark Blue): RTM Transport 08:05:24 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 7 (Mauve): upset trans sport Transport 08:05:26 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 8 (Grey): Reichsbahn Transport 08:05:26 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 9 (Dark Green): - - 08:05:28 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 10 (Light Blue): temp Transport 08:05:28 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 11 (Yellow): iTKerry(UA) Transport 08:05:30 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 12 (Cream): Cargolux 08:05:30 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 13 (Pink): my refit version 08:05:32 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 14 (Purple): Rex Connors Transport 08:05:42 <bug_sniper> !clients 08:33:03 <Stablean> <Dom> oh hi V :) 09:35:57 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 09:38:02 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 09:39:42 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 09:40:17 <Dom_> V are you here?= 09:40:23 <Dom_> i have a new map soon :) 09:47:37 <Dom_> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70582228/welcome%2029.08.sav 10:03:13 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators 10:03:14 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:11:21 *** bug_sniper has quit IRC 10:12:54 <V453000> I am at ze worg 10:13:01 <V453000> will have a look as soon as I come home Dom_ 10:14:20 <Dom_> ok :) 10:14:31 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:14:31 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 10:28:36 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #2 10:28:36 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:43:38 <Stablean> <Dom> LOL 10:44:01 <Stablean> <Dom> my first 3 train crash xDD 11:31:08 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 11:31:08 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 11:31:08 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 11:31:24 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:31:24 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:31:25 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 11:45:24 <Stablean> *** RTM joined the game 11:46:07 <Stablean> *** RTM has joined company #6 11:46:39 <Stablean> <RTM> hi Dom 11:46:45 <Stablean> <RTM> hi Anson 11:46:51 <Stablean> <Dom> hi 11:59:54 <Stablean> <Dom> this looks promising :D 12:01:09 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 12:01:09 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 12:01:42 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 12:01:46 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #2 12:06:31 <Stablean> <Dom> fuck 12:13:47 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo 12:13:53 <Stablean> <Dom> hi 12:14:27 <Stablean> <Anson> you need to put a WP directly next to the PBS at the double depot to make it work 12:14:46 <Stablean> <Dom> which? 12:15:12 <Stablean> <Anson> without the WP, trains wil select which depot to use when they leave the station, and that would always be the same, the nearest 12:15:30 <Stablean> <Dom> i know but the depot spread aint far enough :) 12:16:08 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined company #13 12:17:41 <Stablean> <Anson> yes, a bit difficult ... but without WP, it doesn't work 12:17:49 <Stablean> <Dom> its ok now :) 12:18:23 <Stablean> <Anson> without WP, you can use single depots as well ... the second depot will never be used 12:19:05 <Stablean> <Dom> bastards dont refit :( 12:20:11 <Stablean> <Anson> you have used a block signal at the sign "exit signal" 12:21:12 <V453000> using PBS with depots is generally not the best of ideas 12:21:29 <V453000> throughput is cute, reliability not quite 12:22:33 <Stablean> <Dom> god damnit 12:30:30 <Stablean> *** JustWatching joined the game 12:31:25 <Stablean> <Anson> can't you move the two other double depots to double 1 and double 2 ? 12:31:47 <Stablean> <Dom> ? 12:33:14 <Stablean> <Dom> what 14? 12:33:25 <Stablean> <Dom> tiles long 12:33:28 <Stablean> <Anson> 14 station spread 12:33:32 <Stablean> <Dom> oh 12:34:50 <Stablean> <Anson> at the signs 9 and 13, it might have enough space for the double depots 12:39:04 <Stablean> <Dom> now we wait 12:39:04 <Stablean> <Dom> :D 12:40:39 <Stablean> <Anson> wait for what ? 12:41:37 <Stablean> <RTM> hi JustWatching 12:41:55 <Stablean> <JustWatching> Been staring at your stations for about 10 minutes, Dom, and I don't think I'll ever comprehend how it all is actually working. 12:42:07 <Stablean> <Dom> for the jam to clear 12:42:13 <Stablean> <Dom> :) 12:42:16 <Stablean> <Dom> which station JustWatching 12:42:23 <Stablean> <JustWatching> The papermill. 12:42:37 <Stablean> <Anson> two double depots are still too distant 12:43:09 <Stablean> <Dom> well trains go in unload go through the reverser (so the trains do no see the depot) in the depot the refit to paper wagons and then load paper 12:43:19 <Stablean> <Anson> at sign 1, the WP is missing, sign 8 is ok 12:43:35 <Stablean> <Dom> after that the train check how much paper could it load if not enough it goes thorugh the waypint and unloads again 12:43:41 <Stablean> <Anson> the depot at signs 13,14,15 is too distant (WP would be 15 away) 12:43:47 <Stablean> <Dom> after that it refits to wood and goes back home 12:43:57 <Stablean> <Dom> does it matter Anson 12:44:12 <Stablean> <Dom> aslong as they refit idc 12:44:24 <Stablean> <Anson> the WP should be directly at the PBS signals 12:45:26 <Stablean> <Dom> JustWatching: if they succesfully load enough paper then the go to the printing factory and drop it there 12:45:36 <Stablean> <Dom> after that they refit back 12:45:40 <Stablean> <Dom> to wood 12:46:34 <Stablean> <Anson> i saw that it just worked at the double depot next to sign "1" ... but to make it more reliable, the PBS should be directly at the sign and not several tiles before it 12:48:24 <Stablean> <Dom> it wasnt missing 12:48:30 <Stablean> <Dom> it was after the bridge 12:48:40 <Stablean> <Dom> happy? 12:48:43 <Stablean> <Dom> :) 12:48:57 <Stablean> <Anson> that's what i meant with "missing" : "missing at THIS location" 12:50:51 <Stablean> <Anson> i think it is 12-24 months now, that i tested that "PBS plus WP" back and forth, together with V, until he stated that that was a bug in the then currentversion, and a bit later he said that it was fixed 12:52:12 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 12:52:51 <Stablean> <Anson> i don't know how they fixed it ... at that old time, the PBS and the WP had to have a specific order and no distance between them to make it mostly work ... now it seems to work also with a bigger distance between them, but most reliable is still to put it directly next to each other 12:53:05 <Stablean> <Anson> like it is now 12:53:11 <Stablean> <Dom> ok 12:53:14 <Stablean> <Dom> didnt know that 12:53:22 <Stablean> <Dom> normaly its was always next to it 12:55:25 <Stablean> <Anson> you can test it by stopping a train leaving a depot and watching whether the next train will enter the other depot ... repeat 7 times :-) ... i always do that test when building double depots 12:57:55 <Stablean> <Dom> see? 12:58:22 <Stablean> <Anson> train 87 stopped since it hadn't a "go via WP" order 12:59:33 <Stablean> <JustWatching> Well, back to failing to move more than 2 trains at the same time without going bankrupt. Thanks for inspiration, Dom. 13:00:11 <Stablean> *** JustWatching has left the game (leaving) 13:03:19 <Stablean> <Anson> look at my train 1, to compare how i do the tests and where i use the WP in my orders 13:05:09 <Stablean> <Anson> look at your train 87 ... it needs the "go via WP REFIT EMPTY" between order 8 (unload) and order 9 (refit) 13:06:12 <Stablean> <Dom> sec 13:07:18 <Stablean> <Dom> whats with train 87? 13:07:44 <Stablean> <Anson> you have the WP at order 13 13:07:54 <Stablean> <Dom> ups ty :) 13:08:09 <Stablean> <Anson> i think it should be between the orders to unload and to refit, thus between 8 and 9 13:08:32 <Stablean> <Dom> i did already move it there 13:08:51 <Stablean> <Anson> maybe the same or similar with other trains too, i didn't check 13:09:29 <Stablean> <Anson> i noticed it because train 87 didn't enter the alternate depot when you tested it by stopping a train 13:10:07 <Stablean> <Dom> LOL RTM 13:10:22 <Stablean> <RTM> wy lol Dom 13:10:32 <Stablean> <Dom> dont make a megacity by water tfing 13:11:10 <Stablean> <Dom> btw you transport 800 pax 13:11:16 <Stablean> <Dom> with max possibility of 12k 13:11:58 <Stablean> <RTM> i think that the mail have increase the population 13:12:24 <Stablean> <Dom> you transport 300 mail with almost 3k max 13:14:31 <Stablean> <Anson> i have heard that pop increases faster for up to 5 station (no matter whether pax or mail) 13:15:03 <Stablean> <RTM> only one station for PAX 13:15:09 <Stablean> <RTM> i have there 13:15:17 <Stablean> <RTM> the rest is cargoes 13:16:19 <Stablean> <Anson> dom, why do ou have "no signals on purpose" ? 13:16:45 <Stablean> <Dom> the depots have a built in pbs :) 13:16:55 <Stablean> <Dom> or kind of pbs 13:17:09 <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... and thus trains wait in the depots 13:17:56 <Stablean> <Anson> but that can lead to this: one depot is empty, the other filled ... trains wait in the depot and a new train enters the depot when a train should be released but has to wait now 13:17:58 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 13:18:54 <Stablean> <Anson> with a PBS at that sign, a train would leave (stick its head out :-) and thus block that depot for more incoming trains which would go to the other 13:19:36 <Stablean> <thepower12n> only 30 trains in the depot;p 13:23:27 <Stablean> <Dom> not possible 13:23:49 <Stablean> <Dom> i cant put the wp there 13:23:59 <Stablean> <Dom> station spread 13:24:18 <Stablean> <Dom> got an idea 13:25:48 <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... same as you did on the other side : depots "off by 1" to fit them closer together 13:26:40 <Stablean> <Anson> why do you use those large reversers at all ? to hide the depots ? 13:33:10 <Stablean> *** RTM has left the game (general timeout) 13:33:10 <Stablean> *** RTM has left the game (connection lost) 13:36:33 <Stablean> *** RTM joined the game 13:36:52 <Stablean> *** RTM has joined company #6 13:37:46 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators 13:46:14 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 13:46:14 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 13:46:27 <Dom_> indeen 13:46:28 <Dom_> *d 13:48:22 *** mks has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:48:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mks 14:04:08 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined company #13 14:14:49 <Stablean> *** solo joined the game 14:19:01 <Stablean> *** solo has left the game (leaving) 14:23:45 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators 14:26:06 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 14:28:18 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 15:04:34 <Stablean> <RTM> byb byb 15:04:40 <Stablean> <RTM> i am off 15:04:50 <Stablean> *** RTM has left the game (leaving) 15:04:50 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:07:05 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:07:05 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 15:08:14 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 15:22:04 *** Dom__ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:22:41 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:22:44 <Stablean> *** Muel joined the game 15:22:45 <Stablean> <Muel> hou 15:24:37 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 15:24:37 *** Dom__ is now known as Dom_ 15:32:56 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 15:37:40 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (leaving) 15:47:51 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:47:51 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 15:48:00 <Stablean> <V453000> mu 15:49:06 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:01:34 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:15:47 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:16:05 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:16:05 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 16:16:30 <V453000> @logs 16:16:30 <Webster> #openttdcoop IRC webstuff - IRC Log Viewer - http://webster.openttdcoop.org/ 16:18:43 <mks> !date 16:18:44 <Stablean> mks: 19 Jun 2156 16:27:30 <V453000> Dom_: we used the DACH train set once, lets keep it at that number 16:32:23 <Dom_> why? 16:35:12 <V453000> it is about as bad as 2cc set 16:35:19 <Dom_> hmm 16:35:22 <V453000> same reasons 16:35:26 <Dom_> ow about ukrs 16:35:28 <Dom_> =? 16:35:50 <V453000> ukrs 3.04 is ok 16:35:55 <Dom_> ok 16:36:02 <Dom_> everything else ok? 16:41:27 <V453000> idk didnt look too much detail just the most important thing :) 16:44:15 <Dom_> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70582228/welcome%2029.08.sav 16:50:51 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:50:54 <Stablean> *** Djanxy joined the game 16:55:53 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi all 16:55:55 *** bug_sniper has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:58:30 <V453000> just check the map yourself Dom_ :) 16:58:55 <bug_sniper> !clients 16:58:57 <V453000> and when at it, using this rough map is really wtf, I suggest 1 level less 16:59:06 <V453000> + industrial station renewal has an update 16:59:15 <bug_sniper> !companies 16:59:18 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 1 (Green): Sutbourne Transport 16:59:18 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 2 (Blue): Forever Alone 16:59:18 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 3 (Orange): Diablo Transport 16:59:18 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 4 (Red): thepower12n Transport 16:59:18 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 5 (White): Andy Transport 16:59:20 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 6 (Dark Blue): RTM Transport 16:59:20 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 7 (Mauve): upset trans sport Transport 16:59:22 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 8 (Grey): Reichsbahn Transport 16:59:22 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 9 (Dark Green): - - 16:59:24 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 10 (Light Blue): temp Transport 16:59:24 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 11 (Yellow): iTKerry(UA) Transport 16:59:26 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 12 (Cream): Cargolux 16:59:26 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 13 (Pink): my refit version 16:59:28 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 14 (Purple): Rex Connors Transport 17:04:52 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has left the game (leaving) 17:07:48 <Dom_> ok 17:27:50 <Dom_> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70582228/welcome%2029.08.sav 17:27:55 <Dom_> ready to go :) 17:29:17 <V453000> Dom_: look at the newGRF settings 17:29:27 <V453000> something tells me that UKRS isnt quite active :) 17:31:45 <Dom_> xD 17:31:54 <Dom_> its a no train set :D 17:33:16 <Dom_> is it possible to change it without generating a new map? 17:33:20 <BiG_MeEcH> no way 17:34:49 <V453000> it is, what would you do Dom_ ? :) 17:34:56 <Dom_> enable them 17:35:01 <V453000> how 17:35:06 <Dom_> idk 17:35:10 <V453000> find out :) 17:35:11 <Dom_> thats what I'm asking you :D 17:35:16 <Dom_> it isn't :D 17:35:26 <V453000> it is 17:35:31 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:35:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 17:35:46 <V453000> the error message says something 17:36:04 <Dom_> i know 17:36:05 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:36:05 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 17:36:09 <Dom_> i will find out :) 17:36:14 <Dom_> i've got good motivational music 17:36:16 <Dom_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3MGfJ3eMGA 17:36:16 <Webster> Title: Blake Shelton - The More I Drink (Official Video), Length: 3m 42s, Views: 4772020, Likes: 21790 17:36:59 <V453000> you can ask for hints but I wont tell you exactly :) 17:37:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi big 17:37:36 <V453000> BTW loading UKRS 3.04 add-on is a good idea for some nice extra engines, they are quite important 17:37:39 <BiG_MeEcH> hi 17:37:41 <Dom_> i need the ukrs rail set since it combines 17:37:50 <V453000> no why would you need a rail set 17:38:04 <V453000> the error message in the newGRF window says something 17:38:06 <V453000> see that 17:38:14 <Dom_> i don't get an error msg 17:38:36 <V453000> in the newGRF window when looking at the save? 17:39:18 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:39:22 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things big 17:39:24 <Dom_> yes 17:39:34 <Dom_> i know i have to enable it 17:39:39 <Dom_> thaw the only thing it says 17:40:08 <V453000> no it says something more in the top 17:40:28 <Dom_> ahhh 17:40:33 <Dom_> :( 17:40:52 <Dom_> not working for this climate i pressume 17:41:03 <V453000> what does it say 17:41:08 <V453000> it doesnt say anything about climates 17:41:52 <Dom_> invalid parameter for uk_renewal_set.3.04/pb_ukrs.grf:parameter for climate bit (0) 17:42:14 <V453000> ok well 17:42:29 <V453000> perhaps there is wrong parameter? :P 17:42:54 <Dom_> LOL 17:43:00 <Dom_> -.-" 17:43:28 <Dom_> thats what i didn't try -.-" i changed both parameters to 1 xD 17:43:43 <V453000> you cant just "try" that 17:44:13 <Dom_> learning by doing :D 17:44:27 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> dom whonts the new grf for the nexs mape 17:44:29 <V453000> ok well where could you possibly find the values 17:44:48 <V453000> possssibbblyy 17:44:51 <Dom_> :D and since there are only 3 possible ways 17:46:13 <V453000> so what do? 17:47:58 <Dom_> try all :D 17:48:08 <Dom_> and i tried 2 :D 17:48:12 <Dom_> anyway 17:48:13 <Dom_> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70582228/welcome%2029.08.sav 17:48:16 <V453000> do you know how many values can parameters have? 17:48:24 <Dom_> idk 10 17:48:41 <V453000> I have seen 500+ 17:48:44 <V453000> fyi 17:48:45 <Dom_> oh 17:48:46 <V453000> so go find a readme 17:48:52 <Dom_> why? 17:49:10 <V453000> because your UKRS still isnt working clearly 17:50:40 <Dom_> i see 17:52:03 <V453000> and knowing readmes is the only way to know newGRFs, so off you go :) 17:52:16 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (general timeout) 17:52:16 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 17:52:35 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:52:35 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 17:52:55 <Dom_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1xSV6I94P4 17:52:55 <Webster> Title: Luke Bryan You Don't Know Jack (Album) Jack Daniels Tribute, Length: 3m 12s, Views: 1043516, Likes: 2394 17:52:59 <Dom_> :D 17:53:27 <V453000> not opening it after seeing 20seconds of the last one 17:54:04 <Dom_> why? 17:54:20 <Dom_> its a song about jack daniels :D 17:54:27 <Dom_> even though i don't drink that shit 17:54:55 <V453000> your music is dangerous 17:57:39 <Dom_> :D 17:58:30 <Dom_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQZomDFOc4g 17:58:30 <Webster> Title: Loch Lomond (HQ) - All State Men's choir 08-09, Length: 4m 20s, Views: 49744, Likes: 329 17:58:49 <V453000> nop 17:59:02 <Dom_> its scotish 17:59:11 <V453000> doesnt matter 17:59:17 <Dom_> and old like shit 17:59:18 <V453000> name smells of gayshit 17:59:21 <Dom_> lol 17:59:40 <V453000> go listen to this bitch 17:59:40 <V453000> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTZMBtAotms&list=PL6VZuo2IOJUAeF5RCOwuYaOWmeH2ph7xk 17:59:40 <Webster> Title: Vol. 3 Epic Legendary Intense Massive Heroic Vengeful Dramatic Music Mix - 1 Hour Long, Length: 1h 8m 4s, Views: 394176, Likes: 3667 17:59:46 <V453000> see? 17:59:48 <V453000> motherfucker 18:01:38 <Dom_> sec 18:04:47 <Dom_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUTkbjqSPvk 18:04:47 <Webster> Title: Masters Of Ceremony - Dirt [HQ], Length: 4m 33s, Views: 32733, Likes: 166 18:04:50 <Dom_> ! 18:05:52 <V453000> OMFG hardstyle 18:05:54 <V453000> jesus fuck 18:06:11 <BiG_MeEcH> no way 18:06:27 <Dom_> hardstyle o_O 18:06:38 <Dom_> hardcore :D 18:06:39 <BiG_MeEcH> ladies love it Hardstyle from Big Meech 18:07:01 <Dom_> hardstyle --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1-q4MbAQbk 18:07:01 <Webster> Title: Technoboy - Next Dimensional World (Qlimax 2008 Anthem)HQ, Length: 4m 56s, Views: 2634544, Likes: 7727 18:07:57 <Dom_> gabba ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrfPG-pmi10 18:07:57 <Webster> Title: Object One - Ping Pong (Isaac Mix), Length: 4m 11s, Views: 2630, Likes: 18 18:08:26 <Dom_> and i almost sopped listening to that stuff 18:09:04 <Dom_> and now mostly rock n roll, country, stoner music :D, some classic and ex-yu rock 18:09:44 <BiG_MeEcH> STONER MUSIC 18:10:25 <Dom_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KbKH4A7VFY 18:10:25 <Webster> Title: Willie Nelson - Roll Me Up And Smoke Me When I Die (Snoop Dogg, Jamey Johnson, Kris Kristofferson), Length: 3m 26s, Views: 314759, Likes: 1953 18:12:43 <BiG_MeEcH> hurry up with the new map :P 18:13:59 <Dom_> will you finally build something? 18:14:10 <Dom_> instead of just eating :P 18:14:23 <BiG_MeEcH> gotta leave soon 18:14:34 <Dom_> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70582228/welcome%2029.08.sav 18:14:35 <BiG_MeEcH> and I did build, last night 18:14:49 <Dom_> look at the station now 18:14:54 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I am 18:15:05 <Dom_> i did some changes swell^^ 18:15:11 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I see 18:15:27 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:15:30 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 18:15:57 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #2 18:15:57 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:17:26 <BiG_MeEcH> looks nice 18:17:29 <Dom_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT78hveC_Ow 18:17:29 <Webster> Title: Luke Bryan - Take My Drunk Ass Home, Length: 3m 21s, Views: 3758894, Likes: 12881 18:17:31 <Dom_> :) 18:22:57 <Stablean> <Dom> aaaa 18:23:13 <Stablean> <Dom> LOL 18:23:29 <Stablean> <Dom> LOL!!! 18:23:37 <Stablean> <Dom> god damn water 18:24:59 <Stablean> <Dom> hmm water kills trains 18:25:02 <Stablean> <Dom> who knew... 18:27:25 <Stablean> <Dom> so new map? 18:31:56 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things dom and hi 18:31:58 <Stablean> <Dom> hi 18:32:00 <Stablean> <Dom> well and you 18:32:06 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good 18:32:10 <Stablean> <Dom> V you still here? 18:36:53 <V453000> nop 18:37:23 <Dom_> new map? 18:37:33 <Dom_> new luck :D 18:37:54 <Dom_> or are you to terrorised from my music :D 18:49:04 <Dom_> so no new map? 18:49:09 <Dom_> :( 18:53:52 <bug_sniper> !companies 18:53:55 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 1 (Green): Sutbourne Transport 18:53:55 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 2 (Blue): Forever Alone 18:53:55 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 3 (Orange): Diablo Transport 18:53:55 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 4 (Red): thepower12n Transport 18:53:55 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 5 (White): Andy Transport 18:53:56 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 6 (Dark Blue): RTM Transport 18:53:56 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 7 (Mauve): upset trans sport Transport 18:53:58 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 8 (Grey): Reichsbahn Transport 18:53:58 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 9 (Dark Green): - - 18:54:00 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 10 (Light Blue): temp Transport 18:54:00 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 11 (Yellow): iTKerry(UA) Transport 18:54:02 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 12 (Cream): Cargolux 18:54:02 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 13 (Pink): my refit version 18:54:03 <Dom_> :( 18:54:04 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 14 (Purple): Rex Connors Transport 18:54:30 <bug_sniper> !players 18:54:32 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Client 390 is happy tran sport, a spectator 18:54:32 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Client 243 is Anson, a spectator 18:54:32 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Client 387 is Big Meech, a spectator 18:54:32 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Client 393 (Blue) is Dom, in company 2 (Forever Alone) 19:02:29 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how muney players on irc dom 19:02:43 <Stablean> <Dom> idk many 19:04:09 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem is sylf is on ther u can try arsk hem to port your map on this server 19:04:39 <Stablean> <Dom> no one wants to put a the new map up 19:05:39 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar ok have u try to doo it your self 19:05:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> or can u not doo that 19:06:12 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> on this sever 19:06:22 <Stablean> <Dom> i have no op 19:06:37 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 19:08:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nice wood drop of and nice wood net werk dom 19:12:09 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 19:12:17 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #13 19:12:30 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #2 19:13:58 <Stablean> <Big Meech> new map? :) 19:15:33 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> we tying to get sume to up load the map big but no won whonts to doo it 19:15:53 <BiG_MeEcH> !slap V453000 19:15:55 <Stablean> <Dom> i made a map but seems like no one wants to upload it :(:( 19:16:03 * BiG_MeEcH slaps V453000 around a bit with a large fishbot 19:16:11 <Stablean> <Dom> xDD 19:16:29 <Stablean> <Dom> btw meech we now have a third ^^ 19:16:46 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 19:16:50 <BiG_MeEcH> NO WAY 19:17:01 <Stablean> <Dom> yes way 19:17:32 <Stablean> <Big Meech> impossible 19:17:34 <Stablean> <Dom> its just for now 19:17:48 <Stablean> <Dom> since two lines are joining up there happy :) 19:17:50 <Stablean> <Big Meech> then you ened to add more trains 19:18:00 <Stablean> <Dom> and the station maybe getting a bit small 19:18:15 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer i see that 19:18:57 <Stablean> <Big Meech> something wrong after you added 3rd going left 19:19:03 <Stablean> <Dom> its gonna take about 5 mins for the traffic to clear 19:19:03 <Stablean> <Big Meech> most trains are taking the new lane 19:19:13 <Stablean> <Dom> ofc 19:19:19 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 19:19:23 <Stablean> <Dom> since its only connected to sidelines 19:19:41 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #2 19:19:47 <V453000> BiG_MeEcH: wat u want bitch 19:19:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> won day i am going to try to doo sum thin like this 19:20:07 <Stablean> <Dom> everyday is a good day :) 19:20:13 <Stablean> <Dom> New map!!! 19:20:24 <BiG_MeEcH> lol 19:22:26 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> woo diablo has a tran q 19:22:28 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 19:22:38 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #3 19:23:27 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 19:23:29 <Stablean> <Big Meech> so many trains 19:24:19 <Stablean> <Big Meech> is there a reason why we have PBS on a split for bridges? 19:24:26 <Stablean> <Big Meech> at !here 19:24:44 <Stablean> <Dom> i've tried with pre signals 19:24:54 <Stablean> <Dom> but it seems no difference 19:25:01 <Stablean> <Dom> the both stack a bit but i do not know why 19:25:19 <Stablean> <Big Meech> other lanes act fine =s 19:25:26 <Stablean> <Dom> maybe the gap for tl3 isnt 9 19:25:32 <Stablean> <Dom> i know 19:25:39 <Stablean> <Dom> its a bit weird but fuck it :D 19:25:49 <Stablean> <Big Meech> we should add another bridge! :D 19:25:56 <Stablean> <Dom> no 19:26:00 <Stablean> <Dom> :) 19:26:02 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yes 19:26:17 <Stablean> <Dom> go ahead 19:26:27 <Stablean> <Big Meech> we will need faster bridges with the monorail update 19:26:30 <Stablean> <Dom> yep 19:29:08 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 19:30:02 <Stablean> <Dom> ? 19:30:05 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi 19:30:13 <Stablean> <Dom> ?!?! 19:30:19 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi!!!! 19:30:29 <Stablean> <Dom> votekick Meech 19:30:47 <Stablean> <Dom> he's a weird american 19:31:17 <Stablean> <Dom> + 19:33:16 <Stablean> <Dom> Big Meech: why so sirius? 19:33:19 <Stablean> <Dom> *o 19:33:30 <Stablean> <Dom> :D 19:34:01 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 19:34:06 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem tran 74 is lost and tran 147 and 204 19:36:33 <Dom_> http://tvthek.orf.at/live/6578133 19:36:34 <Webster> Title: Livestreams des laufenden Programms - ORF TVthek (at tvthek.orf.at) 19:37:01 *** LiveFreeOrLagHard has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:37:06 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> !ip 19:37:06 <Stablean> LiveFreeOrLagHard: stable.openttdcoop.org:3999 19:39:21 <Stablean> *** LiveFreeOrLagHard joined the game 19:39:23 <Stablean> <Big Meech> ol 19:39:35 <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Hello 19:39:38 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi 19:39:44 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 19:39:58 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 19:40:39 <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Oh noes, traffic jams 19:41:08 <Stablean> <thepower12n> where? 19:41:28 <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Drop Station 19:41:38 <Stablean> <thepower12n> thats just a small que;p 19:41:40 <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Conveniently named "Drop" 19:41:43 <Stablean> <thepower12n> no jam only 25 trains 19:41:54 <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Only... Yeah, exactly :p 19:42:22 <Stablean> <thepower12n> oh wait it are 50 trains already:P starting to form a minor jam 19:42:36 <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> You know, it's only a minor que. 19:43:26 <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Problem is you can't really jam more loading bays in there 19:44:05 <Stablean> <thepower12n> you could but you need to remove 1 side first and build it 3/6 tiles away 19:44:51 <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Building another terminal by the seaside? 19:45:13 <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Getting nice income from those trains though 19:45:59 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I dont think that station can get any bigger at all 19:46:29 <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> limit is set to 64, right? 19:46:55 <Stablean> <Big Meech> no, 14 actually 19:47:09 <Stablean> <LiveFreeOrLagHard> Oh, yeah, then you don't have a lot to work with 19:48:11 <Stablean> *** LiveFreeOrLagHard has left the game (leaving) 19:48:19 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 19:48:20 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 19:51:19 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 19:52:55 *** BiG_MeEcH has quit IRC 19:54:59 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 19:56:00 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 19:56:00 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 19:57:07 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:57:07 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 19:57:16 <Stablean> <Diablo> hello 19:58:14 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi diablo 19:59:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> u had a tran q at your goods drop of but i fixs it 19:59:55 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> diablo 20:01:35 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:02:49 <Stablean> <Diablo> what did u do anyways? 20:03:47 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ther was sume thin that shord not been ther so i remove it 20:04:03 <Stablean> <Diablo> signal? 20:04:10 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined company #3 20:04:10 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:04:28 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 20:05:06 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #3 20:07:55 <Stablean> <Diablo> wow, that was unexpected 20:08:22 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 20:13:34 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 20:24:10 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 20:31:33 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 20:49:52 <Stablean> <Diablo> bb 20:49:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb 20:50:00 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 21:02:32 <V453000> !getsave https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70582228/welcome%2029.08.sav 21:02:36 <Stablean> V453000: OK :-) 21:02:44 <V453000> !rcon ls 21:02:44 <Stablean> V453000: 0) .. (Parent directory) 21:02:44 <Stablean> V453000: 1) archive/ (Directory) 21:02:44 <Stablean> V453000: 2) welcome 29.08.sav 21:02:44 <Stablean> V453000: 3) Welcome 26.08.sav 21:02:44 <Stablean> V453000: 4) StableNUTS82.sav 21:02:46 <Stablean> V453000: you have 200 more messages 21:02:50 <V453000> !players 21:02:52 <Stablean> V453000: Client 390 (Orange) is happy tran sport, in company 3 (Diablo Transport) 21:02:52 <Stablean> V453000: Client 243 is Anson, a spectator 21:02:52 <Stablean> V453000: Client 407 is Big Meech, a spectator 21:04:10 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 21:04:10 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:14:00 <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#13) 21:14:00 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:14:16 <Stablean> <Big Meech> new comp? :) 21:15:06 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 21:15:06 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 21:24:40 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 21:25:34 <Stablean> *** RTM joined the game 21:26:37 <Stablean> *** RTM has left the game (general timeout) 21:26:37 <Stablean> *** RTM has left the game (connection lost) 21:28:23 <Stablean> <Anson> Forever Alone has a little queue of 20 trains ... 21:28:29 <Stablean> <Anson> ... in a depot 21:31:07 <Stablean> <Anson> the reversers are too unbalanced ... there are 3 drop platforms and the trains split 2:1 in the reversers, thus one pair of pick platforms is working at or above max capacity while on the other pair only one platform is used 21:32:51 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators 21:32:51 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:33:08 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:33:10 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 21:34:29 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:34:32 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 21:37:31 *** LiveFreeOrLagHard has quit IRC 21:46:56 *** Anson has quit IRC 21:47:14 *** Anson has joined #openttdcoop.stable 21:47:30 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 21:54:01 <V453000> !rcon load 2 21:54:25 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:54:36 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:54:37 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 22:05:05 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 22:05:05 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 22:05:37 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has started a new company (#2) 22:05:37 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 22:26:32 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 22:35:08 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi anson 22:48:28 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo 22:48:38 <Stablean> <Anson> another game without TF costs ??? 22:50:38 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> big meech 22:52:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> anson can u doo me a faver 22:54:06 <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#1) 23:09:23 <Stablean> <Big Meech> D: 23:09:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> big meech can u doo mea faver 23:10:08 <Stablean> <Big Meech> ? :) 23:10:30 <bug_sniper> !companies 23:10:33 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 1 (Mauve): Anson Transport 23:10:33 <Stablean> bug_sniper: Company 2 (Dark Blue): happy tran sport Transport 23:10:55 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i need togo to bed but i need sume won to ade trans to the new coal mine 23:11:10 <Stablean> <Big Meech> munnville mines? 23:11:21 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #2 23:11:57 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yeah, I see it 23:12:00 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 23:12:04 <Stablean> <Big Meech> you need more $ first 23:12:22 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 23:15:52 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has started a new company (#3) 23:17:05 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> big when i get the muney can u ade the trans for me 23:17:28 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I said I would 23:18:15 <Stablean> *** solo joined the game 23:18:26 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi solo 23:18:28 <Stablean> <solo> hey 23:18:34 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things 23:18:45 <Stablean> <solo> headache, but apart from that im fine, you? 23:19:03 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good 23:20:15 <V453000> Anson make a better map, otherwise your whining is ignored 23:20:41 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 23:21:15 <Stablean> <solo> hurts me eyes :D. Hi V 23:21:29 <V453000> hi 23:21:43 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Damn not give n xD 23:21:47 <bug_sniper> I actually thought that bender rules sign was clever 23:23:42 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Hi V 23:24:17 <V453000> OMG HY 23:24:23 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hy 23:25:54 <Stablean> *** solo has left the game (leaving) 23:28:51 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 23:28:58 <Stablean> <Big Meech> OMGHI 23:29:01 <Stablean> <V453000> yolo 23:29:39 <Stablean> <Big Meech> why dont the heavy trains go downhill faster than their maximum speed? 23:30:33 <Stablean> <Big Meech> is inflation off? :) 23:30:39 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think you need brake vans btw 23:30:42 <Stablean> <V453000> unube 23:31:30 <Stablean> <Big Meech> ah, you're right 23:32:00 <Stablean> <Big Meech> every other time you need the brake van 23:32:22 <Stablean> <V453000> except never 23:32:22 <Stablean> <V453000> almost 23:32:28 <Stablean> <Big Meech> shup :P 23:32:44 <Stablean> <V453000> you mean slug 23:33:27 <Stablean> <V453000> THE COLOR CHANGE WONT HELP 23:33:38 <Stablean> <V453000> ASDF 23:33:40 <Stablean> <Big Meech> YOU WONT HELP: P 23:34:09 <Stablean> <Big Meech> ?????????????????????0 23:34:31 <Stablean> <V453000> AFH"OSDUGHOIASD !!! 23:37:38 <Stablean> <Big Meech> better save some $ for trains Anson 23:51:01 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 23:51:18 <V453000> I hereby believe Meech is the reason why I have to wake up for work 23:51:19 <V453000> gnight 23:51:27 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 23:51:29 <Stablean> <Big Meech> seeya 23:57:07 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 4 mor trans for the uver coal mine and then i got to go to bed