Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 11th September 2013:
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00:57:30  *** scshunt has quit IRC
01:40:41  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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02:37:41  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
02:37:44  <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game
02:38:29  <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #1
02:38:29  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
03:12:39  <Stablean> *** DepressedAlcoholic joined the game
03:13:00  <Stablean> <DepressedAlcoholic> no way
03:13:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> hm?
03:13:17  <Stablean> <DepressedAlcoholic> by 2220, you would expect teleportation to be the primary mode of transport
03:13:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> you would think
03:13:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> go invent one :)
03:14:05  <Stablean> <DepressedAlcoholic> well I do have a degree in engineering physics
03:14:15  <Stablean> <DepressedAlcoholic> So, it would be right up my alley.
03:15:44  <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game
03:16:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> woooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOO!
03:16:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> behold our bottleneck :)
03:16:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I dont see one ! :D
03:17:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> ok,
03:18:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> behold the spaghetti :)
03:18:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
03:18:09  <Stablean> <DepressedAlcoholic> where
03:18:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> my favorite!
03:19:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> that area between accwich and Wruntminster is something I'd not want to touch again
03:19:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> YOu;d love to rebuild that whole area to LLLRRR
03:19:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> I won't take that fun away from you
03:20:33  <Stablean> *** DepressedAlcoholic has left the game (leaving)
03:20:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
03:21:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> welp, this game was fun.  ready for next
03:21:25  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
03:21:55  <Stablean> <Sylf> so much of the area still unused :/
03:22:01  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout)
03:22:01  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost)
03:22:59  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
03:23:23  <Stablean> *** Shmooooo joined the game
03:23:29  *** BiG_MeEcH has joined #openttdcoop.stable
03:23:31  <BiG_MeEcH> :)
03:23:35  <BiG_MeEcH> so new map soon then?
03:23:47  <Stablean> <Anson> you want a new game ? ... i just read back on IRC and saw the alcoholic speaking about teleportation ...
03:24:09  <Stablean> <Anson> that is possible, but not allowed according to the rules :-) :-(
03:24:17  <BiG_MeEcH> Depressed is gone
03:24:55  <Stablean> <Anson> he probably won't make the new map
03:25:14  <Stablean> <Anson> will there be a game with changed rules, which allows teleportation ?
03:25:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> what?
03:25:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> what are you even talking about?
03:26:06  <Stablean> <Anson> teleportation by using station spread ... possible, but forbidden by the rules
03:26:33  <BiG_MeEcH> teleporting is totally useless and dumb
03:26:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> drop the topic now plz
03:26:59  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving)
03:26:59  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
03:27:14  <Stablean> <Anson> when i saw alcoholic talking about teleportation, i had the (stupid?) idea of allowing it for one game, just like TF was cheap in another game recently
03:28:12  <Sylf> wtf?
03:28:22  <Sylf> it doesn't matter how cheap the TF is
03:28:29  <Sylf> you destroy the map, you're banned.
03:28:34  <Sylf> that rule never changed
03:32:20  <Stablean> *** Shmooooo has left the game (leaving)
03:47:22  <Sylf> !rcon pwd
03:47:22  <Stablean> Sylf: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/uploads/
03:47:31  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
03:47:39  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
03:47:43  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
03:47:45  <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game
03:48:04  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
03:48:04  <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game
03:48:48  <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1
03:48:48  <Stablean> Sylf: Company deleted.
03:48:53  <Sylf> !setdef
03:48:53  <Stablean> *** Sylf has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
03:49:02  <Sylf> !rcon set max_companies
03:49:02  <Stablean> Sylf: Current value for 'max_companies' is: '15' (min: 1, max: 15)
03:49:19  <Sylf> !rcon set min_active_clients
03:49:19  <Stablean> Sylf: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 255)
03:49:37  <Sylf> !auto
03:49:37  <Stablean> *** Sylf has enabled autopause mode.
03:50:21  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, a very special game with unusual parameters :-)
03:50:53  <Sylf> !rcon set station_spread 12
03:51:27  <Sylf> !rcon set max_roadveh 10
03:52:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> I don't see what's so unusual
03:53:26  <Stablean> <Anson> standard engines, no nuts, ....
03:53:33  <Stablean> <Anson> :-)
03:53:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> not that unusual
03:54:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's not like we're using xussr set
03:56:55  <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#1)
03:56:57  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
03:57:58  <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game
03:58:34  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has started a new company (#2)
03:58:50  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators
03:59:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh neat, original engines?  :)
04:00:03  <Stablean> <Big Meech> carefor me to join up ?
04:00:17  <Stablean> <Sylf> go for it
04:00:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> thnanks!
04:00:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> after chores :D
04:05:39  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #1
04:05:55  <Stablean> <Anson> chores already finished ? :-)
04:06:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> just had to get my teeth brusing and stuff done :D
04:06:33  <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#2)
04:06:33  <Stablean> <Big Meech> They are very bruised xD
04:06:57  <Stablean> <Anson> and now they are brushed :-)
04:07:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> Oh, I thought you were trying to make good impressions on Santa
04:07:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Santa is the best
04:07:27  <Stablean> <Anson> but don't remind me of teeth ... have some work to do for my dentist :-(
04:07:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> tell me about it
04:08:13  <Stablean> <Anson> I'll get at least 4 pulled and need replacement for 6+ :-(
04:08:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh jeez
04:08:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Wisdom teeth?
04:09:19  <Stablean> <Anson> no, 1 each on the upper leftr and right, and the 4 lower in the front
04:09:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ouch!
04:10:27  <Stablean> <Anson> I'm starting to imitate my parents ... high blood pressure, teeth, glasses, ... everything comes automatically with age :-(
04:11:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
04:11:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> mmmmm, slowpoke trains
04:11:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ottd releves high blood pressure
04:11:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> gotta love kirby
04:15:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> long unloads
04:18:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> did I dupe the wrong train?
04:18:58  <Stablean> <Sylf> no
04:19:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> new cars already?
04:20:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> The default steel cars are small
04:20:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ah
04:20:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> 30t for hoppers and woot flat cars vs 20t for steel
04:30:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> town drop done
04:30:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, I was gonna delay that while I was replacing the steamers
04:30:45  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh well, too late
04:30:48  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sorry :D
04:31:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> goin for Jubilee?
04:31:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> shoulda done 5x Kirby and 1x railcar :D
04:32:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> that sounds like a dare
04:32:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
04:32:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sounds really bad Imo
04:47:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> just in time for Ginzu! :D
04:47:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
04:47:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> xD
04:48:28  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#3)
04:48:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi
04:48:32  <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators
04:48:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> please change your name, player
04:48:56  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Mxter
04:49:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ty
04:49:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :)
04:50:54  <Stablean> *** Mxter has started a new company (#3)
04:50:54  <Stablean> *** Mxter has started a new company (#4)
04:51:16  <Stablean> *** Mxter has joined company #3
04:59:29  <Stablean> <Sylf> not really
04:59:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm gonna connect a refinery
04:59:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sure
04:59:57  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I'll be annoying when you build :D
04:59:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> and I haven't used a real slh on this server in a while
05:07:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> guiess my depot there sucks :(
05:08:16  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, I didn't see it there
05:08:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> its so secret you didnt see it
05:08:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
05:08:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> SHHHHHHHH I MEAN WHAT DEPOT?!
05:08:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> :P
05:12:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I hope that connection is good enough
05:13:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's just 1 farm
05:13:14  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sure
05:14:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> added to groups :)
05:15:11  <Stablean> *** fair_ joined the game
05:15:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> so much for repaying loan :D
05:15:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi
05:15:17  <Stablean> <fair_> hi
05:15:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> meh, screw loan
05:15:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
05:15:37  <Stablean> <fair_> how are you ?
05:15:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you're too wuick on those goods trias
05:15:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I'm good! you ? :)
05:15:59  <Stablean> <fair_> me too :D .. but i suck at openttd =(
05:16:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that's fine, theres all sorts of building and play levels here
05:16:28  <Stablean> <fair_> i know ^^
05:16:30  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :)
05:16:38  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (general timeout)
05:16:38  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost)
05:16:47  <Stablean> <Big Meech> need help of have questions just ask
05:16:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> *or
05:17:50  <BiG_MeEcH> !ping
05:17:50  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: pong
05:17:55  <BiG_MeEcH> !ping
05:17:55  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: pong
05:18:19  <BiG_MeEcH> hmm
05:18:27  <Sylf> hmmm indeed
05:18:48  <BiG_MeEcH> I take it you cant get in either
05:19:17  <BiG_MeEcH> =\
05:19:34  <Anson> server crasj?
05:19:39  <Sylf> no
05:19:41  <Sylf> server is up
05:19:55  <BiG_MeEcH> I cant refresh or join
05:20:15  <Anson> same for me
05:20:50  <Stablean> *** Anson has left the game (leaving)
05:20:50  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (leaving)
05:20:50  <Stablean> *** Mxter has left the game (leaving)
05:20:50  <Stablean> <fair_> i tried building a station with conditional overflow ... it didnt work xD
05:20:50  <Stablean> *** fair_ has left the game (leaving)
05:20:52  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
05:20:59  <Anson> network - game connection lost
05:21:21  *** fair has joined #openttdcoop.stable
05:21:31  <BiG_MeEcH> hi :)
05:21:52  <BiG_MeEcH> server malfunction :D
05:23:19  <fair> seems like it =(
05:23:32  <fair> happened to me more than once today xD
05:24:05  <BiG_MeEcH> Not Fair! :D
05:24:25  <fair> and if that continues to be the case, I might start wondering whether I am the cause or not
05:24:28  <fair> xD
05:24:37  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost)
05:24:39  <BiG_MeEcH> Im rejoining now
05:24:40  <BiG_MeEcH> nah
05:25:02  <BiG_MeEcH> or not :D
05:25:24  <fair> xD
05:25:26  <BiG_MeEcH> Blame Meech
05:25:42  <fair> I cant rejoin as well ;)
05:25:44  <BiG_MeEcH> V would say that
05:25:45  <Anson> getting the cpmpany list now but stuck after that
05:25:58  <fair> me too
05:26:08  <Sylf> now is a good time not to pound the server
05:26:15  <fair> :D
05:26:21  <Anson> and on next try it again tales ages to load the cpmpany list
05:26:34  <Sylf> anson, please.
05:26:44  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
05:26:52  <BiG_MeEcH> Charmander used Pound, its super effective
05:27:41  <Sylf> give it an hour or two.
05:27:42  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
05:27:45  <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game
05:27:46  <fair> everyone trying to join 100 times per minute right now ? xD
05:27:49  <Stablean> <Anson> I'm in :-)
05:28:05  <fair> obviously
05:28:10  <Sylf> You absolutely had to ignore my suggestion
05:28:13  <fair> xD
05:28:28  <fair> and he absolutely succeeded in joining
05:28:39  <Sylf> fuck it.
05:28:41  <Sylf> I quit.
05:28:57  <fair> ?
05:29:03  <fair> why are you mad ?
05:29:58  <BiG_MeEcH> he asked for you guys to wait and you didnt.
05:30:21  <fair> I did
05:30:27  <BiG_MeEcH> Well, you did
05:30:33  <fair> And as far as I can tell
05:30:36  <fair> I still do
05:30:44  <Anson> after you said to wait i did nothing. only waited for result of my last connectoon attempt. and wrote here in irc
05:32:22  <Anson> in the whole time i did only three attempts. not 100
05:32:26  <fair> well it doesn't matter now, Sylf boils with rage
05:32:59  <fair> xD when I said 100 attempts per minute I was joking :D
05:33:14  <BiG_MeEcH> less chatting more playing :P
05:33:47  <fair> xD there is nowhere to play :P
05:34:01  <fair> (except on other servers .. but thats just bogus)
05:34:05  <BiG_MeEcH> Welcome server :D
05:34:38  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
05:34:38  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
05:34:40  <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators
05:34:40  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
05:35:05  <Stablean> <Anson> before doing connection attempts, i had asked whether the server crashed, and Sylf himself said "no. server is up" ... and when i then try connecting, he gets angry that we place some burden on the server ???
05:35:08  <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #3
05:35:08  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
05:35:18  <BiG_MeEcH> Yo ucan change your name on the join screen, Fair :)
05:35:45  <fair> how do you mean MeEcH ?
05:35:59  <BiG_MeEcH> Where you go to join the game
05:36:01  <Stablean> <Anson> on the screen where you select the game to join
05:36:07  <Stablean> <Anson> in the top right corner
05:36:12  <BiG_MeEcH> the top right corner you cna specify your name so you wont have to change it when you come in
05:36:24  <fair> yeah I know that .. i recently changed it from Player to fair :P
05:36:30  <Stablean> <Anson> the username that you set there is used as default when joining ... only have to do it once
05:37:04  <fair> wait .. you think I just joined the server ?
05:37:17  <fair> I didn't, I am not on there ^^^
05:37:20  <BiG_MeEcH> You came in as player
05:37:25  <fair> nope
05:37:27  <BiG_MeEcH> :D
05:37:31  <fair> maybe someone
05:37:33  <fair> but not me
05:37:43  <fair> I am on BTPro right now xD
05:38:06  <BiG_MeEcH> they joined your company =\
05:38:08  <Stablean> <Anson> a "Player" joined a company ...
05:38:32  <fair> hmm .. I don't have a company  ..  do I ?
05:38:48  <Stablean> <Anson> mxter transport, red company
05:39:10  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, anonymous player, are you mxter ?
05:39:12  <fair> so maybe its mxter
05:39:20  <BiG_MeEcH> Im confused
05:39:23  <fair> :P
05:40:10  <Stablean> <Anson> anonymous player, please select a username when you play in a company
05:41:50  <Sylf> fine, I'll make my point clear before I head off for good.
05:42:08  <Sylf> Just because the server is up does not mean it's in a good condition.
05:42:19  <Sylf> That's why I asked people to stop the connection attempts.
05:42:47  <fair> and then ?
05:43:03  <BiG_MeEcH> Join later
05:43:13  <Sylf> It could have been suffering from a temporary network issues.  If the network is clogged and if you try hitting it again and again, you're compounding the problem.
05:43:20  <fair> I remember at some point you threw your guitar against the wall and SCREAMED Sylf
05:43:38  <Sylf> ....
05:43:48  <Sylf> so this is just a commedy show to people.
05:44:30  <fair> aww .. I didn't try conencting since I got kicked out
05:44:58  <fair> so .. anyone followed your adivce
05:45:36  <Stablean> <Anson> i tried 3 times in 5-10 minutes, and only after sylf had said that the server didn't crash ... was some bad communication in both directions ...
05:46:55  <Stablean> <Anson> currently, i am logged in as spectator (from the last attempt before Sylf had said to wait), and an anonymous player is actively playing in the red company
05:47:43  * fair gives a *beHappySylf*-Thinginmabob to Sylf
05:49:45  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving)
05:49:45  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
05:49:55  <fair> well, now he left
05:50:14  <Stablean> <Anson> set a password on the company and left
05:50:28  <BiG_MeEcH> well I hoppe it was his company
05:50:48  <Stablean> <Anson> only a small company with 2 trains and 9 RV :-)
05:50:51  <fair> xD true, otherwise he is an ass
05:51:58  <Stablean> <Anson> but a train network with 5 stations :-)
05:52:30  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
05:52:31  <Stablean> *** Yugi_D joined the game
05:53:15  <Stablean> *** Yugi_D has left the game (leaving)
05:53:28  <Stablean> <Anson> might as well be mxter with the train network and then the anonymous player (doesn't the "auto-move" to spectators work when directly joining a company?) built some RV routes
05:53:58  <fair> i dunno .. i have no idea
05:54:34  <fair> I am just a random asshole with a nick suggesting he's a nice guy
05:54:41  <Stablean> <Anson> also in the last few games, i often saw "Player" playing in a company ...
05:55:04  <fair> hmm
05:55:23  <BiG_MeEcH> the auto move only works when Mazur is here and his script is loaded
05:55:24  <fair> so it might have been himself
05:59:15  <fair> !help
05:59:20  <BiG_MeEcH> lol
05:59:25  <BiG_MeEcH> no help for you
05:59:29  <fair> nope =(
05:59:35  <BiG_MeEcH> what do you need help with?
05:59:45  <fair> with the commands xD
05:59:53  <BiG_MeEcH> which command?
06:00:09  <fair> wanted to see which ones are there ^^
06:00:24  <fair> but it doesn't work from IRC xD
06:00:31  <BiG_MeEcH> ... !players !companies !date
06:00:43  <BiG_MeEcH> most of them connect with the game
06:01:01  <fair> =)
06:03:10  <BiG_MeEcH> any other questions? :)
06:03:45  <fair> no :D
06:04:00  <fair> I am experimenting with some stuf offline right now
06:04:10  <fair> some things I found on the wiki
06:04:17  <BiG_MeEcH> SWEET.
06:04:43  <fair> no really xD they don't work for me ^^
06:04:55  <BiG_MeEcH> your signals are probably wrong
06:04:57  <Stablean> <Anson> help only lists the commands help, name, version and admin
06:05:09  <BiG_MeEcH> !help
06:05:25  <fair> ^^ .. probably
06:05:45  <BiG_MeEcH> !commands
06:05:48  <BiG_MeEcH> !command
06:05:49  <Stablean> <Anson> when a new map is loaded on this server, they always do (or should do :-) a !setdef to change a few default values
06:05:49  <BiG_MeEcH> xD
06:06:30  <Stablean> <Anson> one of them is for firstred_2way_eol ... that changes behavior of signals, most noticable at stations and overflows
06:06:56  <Stablean> <Anson> you can set those values yourself in the console
06:08:20  <fair> hmm
06:09:13  <fair> I don't thin that affects me when I play offline :D
06:09:16  <fair> *think
06:11:14  <Stablean> <Anson> as far as i know, these are the settings to be "compatible" with the usual settings on these servers :
06:11:29  <Stablean> <Anson> set to 255/off : pf.wait_for_pbs_path, pf.wait_twoway_signal, pf.wait_oneway_signal, ai.ai_in_multiplayer
06:11:51  <Stablean> <Anson> set to 1 : pf.path_backoff_interval, vehicle.train_acceleration_model
06:12:04  <V453000> !Setdef
06:12:05  <Stablean> <Anson> set to on : order.no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, construction.extra_dynamite, economy.mod_road_rebuild, pf.forbid_90_deg, pf.yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol
06:12:07  <V453000> !setdef
06:12:07  <Stablean> *** V453000 has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
06:12:41  <Stablean> <Anson> the last of these is the most important, since it completely changes the tactics when using signals to direct trains to specific platforms or into overflows
06:13:17  <V453000> the last one is train acceleration model?
06:13:36  <Stablean> <Anson> thanks V ... but on the current map, it was already set ... fair was asking about problems with his offline games
06:13:55  <V453000> of course, and that way he can easily read all the necessary settings in our setdef
06:14:22  <Stablean> <Anson> the last that i wrote : rail_firstred_twoway_eol
06:15:15  <V453000> k
06:15:25  <fair> thx :D
06:15:28  <Stablean> <Anson> you need to experiment a bit when only reading the output of setdef in IRC: "disabled" is no accepted value in set-commands
06:15:31  <V453000> still, I wouldnt say it changes nearly as much, it allows for a lot, but doesnt mean people know what 2way does
06:16:11  <Stablean> <Anson> still important to have it set correctly when trying to copy layouts from the wiki to offline games
06:16:22  <V453000> obviously
06:17:23  <fair> yep
06:17:32  <fair> thats true. thanks guys
06:18:46  <Stablean> <Anson> what i still don't know: all the different versions to set values and what the difference is ... set works with and without prefix ? (like rail. pf.ypf. economy, etc) ?
06:19:44  <V453000> well if the setting doesnt have a prefix ...
06:21:03  <Stablean> <Anson> the prefixes are the section headers in the ini fil (config file) ... but i was surprised that they are not needed ingame ?
06:22:53  <V453000> its not like all settings stayed in their categories all the time, some reorganization happens once upon a time
06:27:08  <BiG_MeEcH> HELL YEAH V453000!
06:27:48  <V453000> wat Boxcar
06:27:57  <BiG_MeEcH> HI
06:28:01  <V453000> HELO
06:28:11  <Stablean> <Anson> V, do you know the TV series seaquest DSV ?
06:28:19  <V453000> what is TV
06:28:42  <BiG_MeEcH> Boob Tube
06:28:46  <BiG_MeEcH> Idiot Box
06:29:11  <V453000> dont know that
06:29:26  <Stablean> <Anson> on the last episode, someone had a name tag: "Dagwood, DSV4600" ... guess what i read on first sight when it was only shown for a fraction of a second :-)
06:29:50  <V453000> meh
06:29:57  <Stablean> <Anson> V46000 ... what else ? .-)
06:31:30  <V453000> this is better ... can someone tell me what the fuck is that supposed to mean? :D
06:31:55  <BiG_MeEcH> Molecule
06:32:35  <V453000>;
06:32:36  <Webster> Title: TRC | Details of V453000, CAS#=14134-06-6, 9-Vinylphenanthrene, Synonym=9-Ethenyl�phenanthrene�; (at
06:32:38  <V453000> I am expensive as fuck
06:32:40  <BiG_MeEcH> carbon and hydrogen
06:33:12  <V453000> 2.5g for 00
06:33:16  <V453000> times 4 times 70
06:33:27  <V453000> @calc 1200*4*70
06:33:27  <Webster> V453000: 336000
06:33:33  <V453000> usd
06:34:03  <V453000> no wait
06:34:15  <V453000> 2.5g times 4 doesnt quite make 1kg :D
06:34:22  <V453000> k *100
06:34:29  <BiG_MeEcH> LMAO
06:34:35  <V453000> 33.6 M dollars bitch
06:34:39  <V453000> same as new lamborghini
06:34:42  <BiG_MeEcH> I typed in V453000 in google images and got this
06:34:43  <V453000> or well aroundish
06:34:43  <BiG_MeEcH>
06:34:57  <BiG_MeEcH> Is that you V453000?
06:35:00  <V453000> interesting Eddi pasterd that in irc not long ago
06:35:07  <V453000> pasted
06:35:11  <BiG_MeEcH> haha :D
06:35:15  <BiG_MeEcH> Nice
06:35:22  <BiG_MeEcH> I was going to throw tomatoes at it
06:36:08  <V453000> oh you ketchup whore
06:36:51  <V453000> btw it was a response to this :D
06:37:21  <fair> oO
06:37:23  <V453000> I uploaded their file they had under open license and they disagreed so they claim infringement :>
06:37:41  <V453000> so they promoted me to their arch enemy ... could I ask for more? :D
06:37:43  <BiG_MeEcH> Whao?! wtf
06:38:31  <V453000> long story short, simuscape are retards who cause problems :)
06:38:42  <V453000> I went there for "diplomacy" :D
06:39:23  <Stablean> <Anson> it is C16H12 ... or commonly known as 9-Vinylphenanthrene
06:39:23  <BiG_MeEcH> LMAO
06:39:30  <BiG_MeEcH> I know your form of diplomacy xD
06:39:34  <V453000> its written there Anson ...
06:40:17  <Stablean> <Anson> you only had linked the image, not the page with the description
06:40:25  <V453000> OH
06:40:27  <V453000> ass
06:40:34  <V453000> wanted to paste that too :d
06:40:35  <V453000> meh
06:42:05  <BiG_MeEcH> I'm confused, they claim you stole their sprites?
06:42:49  <Stablean> <Anson> ah ... you pasted that too, but only when i already had switched from irc to the browser window and typed it myself
06:43:03  <Stablean> <Anson> had to scroll back two pages to see it
06:43:07  <V453000> no no sprites
06:43:20  <BiG_MeEcH> just a license file?
06:43:26  <BiG_MeEcH> wtffff? xD
06:43:41  <V453000> years ago there were stolen trees on bananas - and people miss them now, because the thunderwhores made a huge circus and the file got deleted for wtf reasons
06:44:00  <V453000> because our archive is broken without that file, I put it to my dropbox, the old file was gplv2 which lets you share it
06:44:03  <BiG_MeEcH> Oh I think theres a grf called stolen trees
06:44:08  <V453000> ....
06:44:11  <V453000> yes thats a name
06:44:14  <BiG_MeEcH> Nice
06:44:17  <BiG_MeEcH> and its all over ther?
06:44:21  <BiG_MeEcH> *that
06:44:25  <V453000> mostly
06:44:45  <BiG_MeEcH> Great!
06:44:51  <V453000> I uploaded the file to my dropbox - linked on forums - the cunt saw it - claimed infringemetn, which according to gplv2 is nonsense
06:45:22  <V453000> she even claimed she never put the license in there, fun part is last week all of her newGRFs released at simuscape were under CC3 which allows redistribution
06:45:26  <BiG_MeEcH> gpl licesnse is free to share
06:45:32  <V453000> so we uploaded it again under CC3 :D
06:45:49  <V453000> and then simuscape changed all of their licensing to SL13 which disallows it
06:45:55  <BiG_MeEcH> lmao
06:45:58  <V453000> and they claim gplv2 or CC3 never existed for them
06:46:07  <V453000> basically, a bunch of retards who need to make problems
06:46:07  <BiG_MeEcH> neat
06:46:28  <V453000> vs me retard who wanted to make them put stuff on bananas etc, so there wouldnt be those problems
06:47:10  <BiG_MeEcH> Well without that drama, you can get a lot more sprites done now before the binge drinking weekend :D
06:47:23  <V453000> it is a long story, in the beginning of what I know is that they left tt-forums, deleting all of their posts and uploads, making threads broken ... just because they felt like "they were under appreciated"
06:47:36  <V453000> drama was quick and funny
06:47:51  <V453000> also it was a matter of months, the end just happened now :)
06:48:33  <BiG_MeEcH> I'm under appreciated, thats why i start drinking when i wake up in the morning
06:48:44  <V453000> so basically what they do is separate themselves at simuscape, put idiotic licenses, make stupidly inaccessible downloads, and claim that everybody else is waging a "tycoon-war" against them
06:48:46  <V453000> fun stuff
06:50:12  <V453000> so yeah that is for you to know what is actually possible to happen :D
06:50:13  <BiG_MeEcH> oh yes
06:53:54  <Stablean> *** Anson has left the game (leaving)
06:54:04  <V453000> the funniest part would be if they tried to upload NUTS somewhere
06:54:13  <BiG_MeEcH> :D
06:54:25  <V453000> because not only would nobody download it as it is on bananas, but also because they would fall behind on versions very quickly :)
06:55:04  <BiG_MeEcH> yes we need new cargoez nao!
06:55:21  <V453000> drew wood yustordai
06:55:23  <BiG_MeEcH> but first, bedtime!
06:55:31  <BiG_MeEcH> Ladies love my wood
06:55:45  <BiG_MeEcH> WoooooooooooOOooOO!d
06:55:49  <BiG_MeEcH> xD
06:55:52  <BiG_MeEcH> Seeya Boss.
06:56:12  <V453000> :) cya
08:24:18  <fair> hmm..anyone still around ?
08:24:30  <V453000> nope
08:24:34  <fair> =(
08:24:37  <V453000> :)
08:25:12  <fair> but you're the guy whose design I am scratching my head over right now
08:25:36  <V453000> :D
08:25:37  <fair> xD .. its ok, you don't expect you to help me =)
08:25:38  <V453000> which one?
08:26:16  <fair> the most basic overflow ever... xD trains just go to the last red two way signal and stop instead of going in the overflow
08:26:30  <fair> but I guess its some setting i forgot to set
08:26:34  <V453000> and you have the twoway_eol seting on
08:26:36  <V453000> !setdef
08:26:36  <Stablean> *** V453000 has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
08:26:43  <V453000> rail_firstred_twoway_eol
08:26:45  <V453000> this one
08:26:48  <fair> yeah yeah, i got everyone of those set :D
08:27:02  <V453000> close openttd, then open config, edit config, save config, open openttd
08:27:11  <V453000> (will apply only for new games)
08:27:14  <fair> hmm .. worth a try
08:27:25  <V453000> in the existing game, you need to do that through game console
08:27:45  <V453000> and there set rail_firstred_twoway_eol = 1 ... with some "", I can never remember where those go
08:27:48  <V453000> config way is best
08:27:59  <fair> xD
08:28:34  <fair> hmm ah
08:28:50  <V453000> if all else fails just post a screenshot of the problem
08:28:50  <fair> it tells me thy syntax is:   setting <name> <value>
08:29:01  <V453000> mhm
08:29:23  <fair> *the .. and rail_firstred_twoway_eol is an "unknown setting"
08:29:29  <fair> everything else is properly set
08:29:31  <V453000> try yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol
08:29:41  <fair> doesn't work either xD
08:29:52  <V453000> just type "set rail_firstred_twoway_eol"
08:29:55  <V453000> without the ""
08:30:09  <V453000> or "set yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol"
08:30:15  <fair> => "Usage: setting <name> <value>
08:30:24  <Anson> pf.yapf.xxxxx
08:30:25  <V453000> !rcon set yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol
08:30:25  <Stablean> V453000: say "<Anson> pf.yapf.xxxxx"
08:30:25  <Stablean> V453000: ‎[All] Stablean: <Anson> pf.yapf.xxxxx
08:30:25  <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1)
08:30:26  <fair> hmm .. let me google
08:30:34  <V453000> yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol is correct
08:30:45  <V453000> so something in your syntax
08:31:01  <V453000> it shouldnt need the pf I think ... but try it
08:31:45  <fair> ah sweet.. thx, it works
08:31:56  <V453000> yw
08:32:05  <fair> it does not work with "setting"  .. but with set if the prefix is right
08:32:09  <V453000> onwards to more complex overflows :P
08:32:48  <fair> xD i started on the more compley ones but reduced it to the basic ones, once I saw that I didn't work the way I wanted it to xD
08:33:01  <V453000> :)
08:34:01  <fair> hmm if that option is not set (like on most other servers I guess) .. then there is no way to design an overflow ?
08:34:42  <V453000> there is but not nearly as reliably or sensibly
08:34:45  <V453000> but yes it is possible
08:35:04  <V453000> aka, you can calculate the penalties in a way that when a platform is full (example), train will want to go to the depot
08:35:07  <fair> okay
08:35:17  <fair> :D
08:35:23  <V453000> but that is just stupid bothering and the 2way function makes it precise and reliable, always
08:35:27  <Anson> if you test and try layouts from the wiki, rember that se already are a few years old and they might be outdated
08:35:29  <fair> sounds like headaches
08:35:51  <V453000> nah just a lot of fiddling and testing
08:35:57  <V453000> for every time you build the thing
08:36:07  <fair> yeah, I know that @Anson... figured that much out already :D
08:39:49  <fair> thanks again =)
08:40:05  <fair> works how i want it to now ^^
08:40:24  <V453000> :)
08:49:35  <V453000> @ABR04
08:49:36  <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 04: Overflows at #openttdcoop -
08:50:04  <V453000> hm that article should mention it probably
08:50:08  <V453000> the setting n stuff
08:56:33  <V453000> k all 3 articles regarding overflows mention it now
09:00:37  <V453000> lunch tiem
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16:05:02  <Stablean> <RTM> hi thepower12n
16:05:05  <Stablean> <RTM> hi Djanxy
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16:16:29  <Stablean> <Djanxy> Hi RTM - better late than never :D
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17:00:49  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
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17:16:23  <Stablean> <Djanxy> is it normal behaviour to randomly join a company and start building, just because i forgot to set a company pass ?
17:17:52  <BiG_MeEcH> It is, they dont belong in the company
17:17:55  <BiG_MeEcH> call admin for help
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17:55:48  <Anson> djanxy, you can set a default pw which is then used also for all future games. never again forgetting to set one
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18:12:58  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Yoyo
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18:14:25  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi :P
18:15:07  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ah thx Anson, didnt realise it worked like that
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19:02:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Admin can you check to make sure that city growth is turned off?
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19:19:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi
19:19:33  <Stablean> <r1kkie> Yo
19:19:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
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22:31:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo
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