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00:57:30 *** scshunt has quit IRC 01:40:41 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 01:40:44 <Stablean> *** youloser1337 joined the game 01:41:21 <Stablean> *** youloser1337 has left the game (leaving) 02:37:41 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 02:37:44 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 02:38:29 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #1 02:38:29 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 03:12:39 <Stablean> *** DepressedAlcoholic joined the game 03:13:00 <Stablean> <DepressedAlcoholic> no way 03:13:15 <Stablean> <Sylf> hm? 03:13:17 <Stablean> <DepressedAlcoholic> by 2220, you would expect teleportation to be the primary mode of transport 03:13:32 <Stablean> <Sylf> you would think 03:13:46 <Stablean> <Sylf> go invent one :) 03:14:05 <Stablean> <DepressedAlcoholic> well I do have a degree in engineering physics 03:14:15 <Stablean> <DepressedAlcoholic> So, it would be right up my alley. 03:15:44 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 03:16:00 <Stablean> <Big Meech> woooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOO! 03:16:19 <Stablean> <Sylf> behold our bottleneck :) 03:16:42 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I dont see one ! :D 03:17:56 <Stablean> <Sylf> ok, 03:18:02 <Stablean> <Sylf> behold the spaghetti :) 03:18:05 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 03:18:09 <Stablean> <DepressedAlcoholic> where 03:18:12 <Stablean> <Big Meech> my favorite! 03:19:00 <Stablean> <Sylf> that area between accwich and Wruntminster is something I'd not want to touch again 03:19:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> YOu;d love to rebuild that whole area to LLLRRR 03:19:53 <Stablean> <Sylf> I won't take that fun away from you 03:20:33 <Stablean> *** DepressedAlcoholic has left the game (leaving) 03:20:45 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 03:21:07 <Stablean> <Sylf> welp, this game was fun. ready for next 03:21:25 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 03:21:55 <Stablean> <Sylf> so much of the area still unused :/ 03:22:01 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 03:22:01 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 03:22:59 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo 03:23:23 <Stablean> *** Shmooooo joined the game 03:23:29 *** BiG_MeEcH has joined #openttdcoop.stable 03:23:31 <BiG_MeEcH> :) 03:23:35 <BiG_MeEcH> so new map soon then? 03:23:47 <Stablean> <Anson> you want a new game ? ... i just read back on IRC and saw the alcoholic speaking about teleportation ... 03:24:09 <Stablean> <Anson> that is possible, but not allowed according to the rules :-) :-( 03:24:17 <BiG_MeEcH> Depressed is gone 03:24:55 <Stablean> <Anson> he probably won't make the new map 03:25:14 <Stablean> <Anson> will there be a game with changed rules, which allows teleportation ? 03:25:21 <Stablean> <Sylf> what? 03:25:32 <Stablean> <Sylf> what are you even talking about? 03:26:06 <Stablean> <Anson> teleportation by using station spread ... possible, but forbidden by the rules 03:26:33 <BiG_MeEcH> teleporting is totally useless and dumb 03:26:48 <Stablean> <Sylf> drop the topic now plz 03:26:59 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 03:26:59 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 03:27:14 <Stablean> <Anson> when i saw alcoholic talking about teleportation, i had the (stupid?) idea of allowing it for one game, just like TF was cheap in another game recently 03:28:12 <Sylf> wtf? 03:28:22 <Sylf> it doesn't matter how cheap the TF is 03:28:29 <Sylf> you destroy the map, you're banned. 03:28:34 <Sylf> that rule never changed 03:32:20 <Stablean> *** Shmooooo has left the game (leaving) 03:47:22 <Sylf> !rcon pwd 03:47:22 <Stablean> Sylf: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/uploads/ 03:47:31 <Sylf> !rcon load 2 03:47:39 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 03:47:43 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 03:47:45 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 03:48:04 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 03:48:04 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 03:48:48 <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1 03:48:48 <Stablean> Sylf: Company deleted. 03:48:53 <Sylf> !setdef 03:48:53 <Stablean> *** Sylf has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 03:49:02 <Sylf> !rcon set max_companies 03:49:02 <Stablean> Sylf: Current value for 'max_companies' is: '15' (min: 1, max: 15) 03:49:19 <Sylf> !rcon set min_active_clients 03:49:19 <Stablean> Sylf: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 255) 03:49:37 <Sylf> !auto 03:49:37 <Stablean> *** Sylf has enabled autopause mode. 03:50:21 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, a very special game with unusual parameters :-) 03:50:53 <Sylf> !rcon set station_spread 12 03:51:27 <Sylf> !rcon set max_roadveh 10 03:52:20 <Stablean> <Sylf> I don't see what's so unusual 03:53:26 <Stablean> <Anson> standard engines, no nuts, .... 03:53:33 <Stablean> <Anson> :-) 03:53:56 <Stablean> <Sylf> not that unusual 03:54:04 <Stablean> <Sylf> it's not like we're using xussr set 03:56:55 <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#1) 03:56:57 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 03:57:58 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 03:58:34 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has started a new company (#2) 03:58:50 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 03:59:06 <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh neat, original engines? :) 04:00:03 <Stablean> <Big Meech> carefor me to join up ? 04:00:17 <Stablean> <Sylf> go for it 04:00:35 <Stablean> <Big Meech> thnanks! 04:00:39 <Stablean> <Big Meech> after chores :D 04:05:39 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 04:05:55 <Stablean> <Anson> chores already finished ? :-) 04:06:19 <Stablean> <Big Meech> just had to get my teeth brusing and stuff done :D 04:06:33 <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#2) 04:06:33 <Stablean> <Big Meech> They are very bruised xD 04:06:57 <Stablean> <Anson> and now they are brushed :-) 04:07:03 <Stablean> <Sylf> Oh, I thought you were trying to make good impressions on Santa 04:07:13 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Santa is the best 04:07:27 <Stablean> <Anson> but don't remind me of teeth ... have some work to do for my dentist :-( 04:07:37 <Stablean> <Big Meech> tell me about it 04:08:13 <Stablean> <Anson> I'll get at least 4 pulled and need replacement for 6+ :-( 04:08:35 <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh jeez 04:08:45 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Wisdom teeth? 04:09:19 <Stablean> <Anson> no, 1 each on the upper leftr and right, and the 4 lower in the front 04:09:45 <Stablean> <Big Meech> ouch! 04:10:27 <Stablean> <Anson> I'm starting to imitate my parents ... high blood pressure, teeth, glasses, ... everything comes automatically with age :-( 04:11:19 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 04:11:25 <Stablean> <Sylf> mmmmm, slowpoke trains 04:11:27 <Stablean> <Big Meech> ottd releves high blood pressure 04:11:37 <Stablean> <Big Meech> gotta love kirby 04:15:23 <Stablean> <Big Meech> long unloads 04:18:52 <Stablean> <Big Meech> did I dupe the wrong train? 04:18:58 <Stablean> <Sylf> no 04:19:24 <Stablean> <Big Meech> new cars already? 04:20:07 <Stablean> <Sylf> The default steel cars are small 04:20:21 <Stablean> <Big Meech> ah 04:20:47 <Stablean> <Sylf> 30t for hoppers and woot flat cars vs 20t for steel 04:30:11 <Stablean> <Big Meech> town drop done 04:30:33 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, I was gonna delay that while I was replacing the steamers 04:30:45 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh well, too late 04:30:48 <Stablean> <Big Meech> sorry :D 04:31:11 <Stablean> <Big Meech> goin for Jubilee? 04:31:39 <Stablean> <Big Meech> shoulda done 5x Kirby and 1x railcar :D 04:32:07 <Stablean> <Sylf> that sounds like a dare 04:32:11 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 04:32:17 <Stablean> <Big Meech> sounds really bad Imo 04:47:11 <Stablean> <Big Meech> just in time for Ginzu! :D 04:47:26 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 04:47:28 <Stablean> <Big Meech> xD 04:48:28 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#3) 04:48:32 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi 04:48:32 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 04:48:42 <Stablean> <Big Meech> please change your name, player 04:48:56 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Mxter 04:49:09 <Stablean> <Big Meech> ty 04:49:12 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :) 04:50:54 <Stablean> *** Mxter has started a new company (#3) 04:50:54 <Stablean> *** Mxter has started a new company (#4) 04:51:16 <Stablean> *** Mxter has joined company #3 04:59:29 <Stablean> <Sylf> not really 04:59:37 <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm gonna connect a refinery 04:59:41 <Stablean> <Big Meech> sure 04:59:57 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I'll be annoying when you build :D 04:59:59 <Stablean> <Sylf> and I haven't used a real slh on this server in a while 05:07:56 <Stablean> <Big Meech> guiess my depot there sucks :( 05:08:16 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, I didn't see it there 05:08:22 <Stablean> <Big Meech> its so secret you didnt see it 05:08:24 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 05:08:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> SHHHHHHHH I MEAN WHAT DEPOT?! 05:08:40 <Stablean> <Sylf> :P 05:12:58 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I hope that connection is good enough 05:13:12 <Stablean> <Sylf> it's just 1 farm 05:13:14 <Stablean> <Big Meech> sure 05:14:04 <Stablean> <Big Meech> added to groups :) 05:15:11 <Stablean> *** fair_ joined the game 05:15:13 <Stablean> <Big Meech> so much for repaying loan :D 05:15:15 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi 05:15:17 <Stablean> <fair_> hi 05:15:27 <Stablean> <Sylf> meh, screw loan 05:15:29 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 05:15:37 <Stablean> <fair_> how are you ? 05:15:39 <Stablean> <Big Meech> you're too wuick on those goods trias 05:15:45 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I'm good! you ? :) 05:15:59 <Stablean> <fair_> me too :D .. but i suck at openttd =( 05:16:17 <Stablean> <Big Meech> that's fine, theres all sorts of building and play levels here 05:16:28 <Stablean> <fair_> i know ^^ 05:16:30 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :) 05:16:38 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (general timeout) 05:16:38 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 05:16:47 <Stablean> <Big Meech> need help of have questions just ask 05:16:53 <Stablean> <Big Meech> *or 05:17:50 <BiG_MeEcH> !ping 05:17:50 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: pong 05:17:55 <BiG_MeEcH> !ping 05:17:55 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: pong 05:18:19 <BiG_MeEcH> hmm 05:18:27 <Sylf> hmmm indeed 05:18:48 <BiG_MeEcH> I take it you cant get in either 05:19:17 <BiG_MeEcH> =\ 05:19:34 <Anson> server crasj? 05:19:39 <Sylf> no 05:19:41 <Sylf> server is up 05:19:55 <BiG_MeEcH> I cant refresh or join 05:20:15 <Anson> same for me 05:20:50 <Stablean> *** Anson has left the game (leaving) 05:20:50 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (leaving) 05:20:50 <Stablean> *** Mxter has left the game (leaving) 05:20:50 <Stablean> <fair_> i tried building a station with conditional overflow ... it didnt work xD 05:20:50 <Stablean> *** fair_ has left the game (leaving) 05:20:52 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 05:20:59 <Anson> network - game connection lost 05:21:21 *** fair has joined #openttdcoop.stable 05:21:31 <BiG_MeEcH> hi :) 05:21:52 <BiG_MeEcH> server malfunction :D 05:23:19 <fair> seems like it =( 05:23:32 <fair> happened to me more than once today xD 05:24:05 <BiG_MeEcH> Not Fair! :D 05:24:25 <fair> and if that continues to be the case, I might start wondering whether I am the cause or not 05:24:28 <fair> xD 05:24:37 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 05:24:39 <BiG_MeEcH> Im rejoining now 05:24:40 <BiG_MeEcH> nah 05:25:02 <BiG_MeEcH> or not :D 05:25:24 <fair> xD 05:25:26 <BiG_MeEcH> Blame Meech 05:25:42 <fair> I cant rejoin as well ;) 05:25:44 <BiG_MeEcH> V would say that 05:25:45 <Anson> getting the cpmpany list now but stuck after that 05:25:58 <fair> me too 05:26:08 <Sylf> now is a good time not to pound the server 05:26:15 <fair> :D 05:26:21 <Anson> and on next try it again tales ages to load the cpmpany list 05:26:34 <Sylf> anson, please. 05:26:44 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 05:26:52 <BiG_MeEcH> Charmander used Pound, its super effective 05:27:41 <Sylf> give it an hour or two. 05:27:42 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 05:27:45 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 05:27:46 <fair> everyone trying to join 100 times per minute right now ? xD 05:27:49 <Stablean> <Anson> I'm in :-) 05:28:05 <fair> obviously 05:28:10 <Sylf> You absolutely had to ignore my suggestion 05:28:13 <fair> xD 05:28:28 <fair> and he absolutely succeeded in joining 05:28:39 <Sylf> fuck it. 05:28:41 <Sylf> I quit. 05:28:57 <fair> ? 05:29:03 <fair> why are you mad ? 05:29:58 <BiG_MeEcH> he asked for you guys to wait and you didnt. 05:30:21 <fair> I did 05:30:27 <BiG_MeEcH> Well, you did 05:30:33 <fair> And as far as I can tell 05:30:36 <fair> I still do 05:30:44 <Anson> after you said to wait i did nothing. only waited for result of my last connectoon attempt. and wrote here in irc 05:32:22 <Anson> in the whole time i did only three attempts. not 100 05:32:26 <fair> well it doesn't matter now, Sylf boils with rage 05:32:59 <fair> xD when I said 100 attempts per minute I was joking :D 05:33:14 <BiG_MeEcH> less chatting more playing :P 05:33:47 <fair> xD there is nowhere to play :P 05:34:01 <fair> (except on other servers .. but thats just bogus) 05:34:05 <BiG_MeEcH> Welcome server :D 05:34:38 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 05:34:38 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 05:34:40 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 05:34:40 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 05:35:05 <Stablean> <Anson> before doing connection attempts, i had asked whether the server crashed, and Sylf himself said "no. server is up" ... and when i then try connecting, he gets angry that we place some burden on the server ??? 05:35:08 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #3 05:35:08 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 05:35:18 <BiG_MeEcH> Yo ucan change your name on the join screen, Fair :) 05:35:45 <fair> how do you mean MeEcH ? 05:35:59 <BiG_MeEcH> Where you go to join the game 05:36:01 <Stablean> <Anson> on the screen where you select the game to join 05:36:07 <Stablean> <Anson> in the top right corner 05:36:12 <BiG_MeEcH> the top right corner you cna specify your name so you wont have to change it when you come in 05:36:24 <fair> yeah I know that .. i recently changed it from Player to fair :P 05:36:30 <Stablean> <Anson> the username that you set there is used as default when joining ... only have to do it once 05:37:04 <fair> wait .. you think I just joined the server ? 05:37:17 <fair> I didn't, I am not on there ^^^ 05:37:20 <BiG_MeEcH> You came in as player 05:37:25 <fair> nope 05:37:27 <BiG_MeEcH> :D 05:37:31 <fair> maybe someone 05:37:33 <fair> but not me 05:37:43 <fair> I am on BTPro right now xD 05:38:06 <BiG_MeEcH> they joined your company =\ 05:38:08 <Stablean> <Anson> a "Player" joined a company ... 05:38:32 <fair> hmm .. I don't have a company .. do I ? 05:38:48 <Stablean> <Anson> mxter transport, red company 05:39:10 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, anonymous player, are you mxter ? 05:39:12 <fair> so maybe its mxter 05:39:20 <BiG_MeEcH> Im confused 05:39:23 <fair> :P 05:40:10 <Stablean> <Anson> anonymous player, please select a username when you play in a company 05:41:50 <Sylf> fine, I'll make my point clear before I head off for good. 05:42:08 <Sylf> Just because the server is up does not mean it's in a good condition. 05:42:19 <Sylf> That's why I asked people to stop the connection attempts. 05:42:47 <fair> and then ? 05:43:03 <BiG_MeEcH> Join later 05:43:13 <Sylf> It could have been suffering from a temporary network issues. If the network is clogged and if you try hitting it again and again, you're compounding the problem. 05:43:20 <fair> I remember at some point you threw your guitar against the wall and SCREAMED Sylf 05:43:38 <Sylf> .... 05:43:48 <Sylf> so this is just a commedy show to people. 05:44:30 <fair> aww .. I didn't try conencting since I got kicked out 05:44:58 <fair> so .. anyone followed your adivce 05:45:36 <Stablean> <Anson> i tried 3 times in 5-10 minutes, and only after sylf had said that the server didn't crash ... was some bad communication in both directions ... 05:46:55 <Stablean> <Anson> currently, i am logged in as spectator (from the last attempt before Sylf had said to wait), and an anonymous player is actively playing in the red company 05:47:43 * fair gives a *beHappySylf*-Thinginmabob to Sylf 05:49:45 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 05:49:45 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 05:49:55 <fair> well, now he left 05:50:14 <Stablean> <Anson> set a password on the company and left 05:50:28 <BiG_MeEcH> well I hoppe it was his company 05:50:48 <Stablean> <Anson> only a small company with 2 trains and 9 RV :-) 05:50:51 <fair> xD true, otherwise he is an ass 05:51:58 <Stablean> <Anson> but a train network with 5 stations :-) 05:52:30 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 05:52:31 <Stablean> *** Yugi_D joined the game 05:53:15 <Stablean> *** Yugi_D has left the game (leaving) 05:53:28 <Stablean> <Anson> might as well be mxter with the train network and then the anonymous player (doesn't the "auto-move" to spectators work when directly joining a company?) built some RV routes 05:53:58 <fair> i dunno .. i have no idea 05:54:34 <fair> I am just a random asshole with a nick suggesting he's a nice guy 05:54:41 <Stablean> <Anson> also in the last few games, i often saw "Player" playing in a company ... 05:55:04 <fair> hmm 05:55:23 <BiG_MeEcH> the auto move only works when Mazur is here and his script is loaded 05:55:24 <fair> so it might have been himself 05:59:15 <fair> !help 05:59:20 <BiG_MeEcH> lol 05:59:25 <BiG_MeEcH> no help for you 05:59:29 <fair> nope =( 05:59:35 <BiG_MeEcH> what do you need help with? 05:59:45 <fair> with the commands xD 05:59:53 <BiG_MeEcH> which command? 06:00:09 <fair> wanted to see which ones are there ^^ 06:00:24 <fair> but it doesn't work from IRC xD 06:00:31 <BiG_MeEcH> ... !players !companies !date 06:00:43 <BiG_MeEcH> most of them connect with the game 06:01:01 <fair> =) 06:03:10 <BiG_MeEcH> any other questions? :) 06:03:45 <fair> no :D 06:04:00 <fair> I am experimenting with some stuf offline right now 06:04:10 <fair> some things I found on the wiki 06:04:17 <BiG_MeEcH> SWEET. 06:04:43 <fair> no really xD they don't work for me ^^ 06:04:55 <BiG_MeEcH> your signals are probably wrong 06:04:57 <Stablean> <Anson> help only lists the commands help, name, version and admin 06:05:09 <BiG_MeEcH> !help 06:05:25 <fair> ^^ .. probably 06:05:45 <BiG_MeEcH> !commands 06:05:48 <BiG_MeEcH> !command 06:05:49 <Stablean> <Anson> when a new map is loaded on this server, they always do (or should do :-) a !setdef to change a few default values 06:05:49 <BiG_MeEcH> xD 06:06:30 <Stablean> <Anson> one of them is for firstred_2way_eol ... that changes behavior of signals, most noticable at stations and overflows 06:06:56 <Stablean> <Anson> you can set those values yourself in the console 06:08:20 <fair> hmm 06:09:13 <fair> I don't thin that affects me when I play offline :D 06:09:16 <fair> *think 06:11:14 <Stablean> <Anson> as far as i know, these are the settings to be "compatible" with the usual settings on these servers : 06:11:29 <Stablean> <Anson> set to 255/off : pf.wait_for_pbs_path, pf.wait_twoway_signal, pf.wait_oneway_signal, ai.ai_in_multiplayer 06:11:51 <Stablean> <Anson> set to 1 : pf.path_backoff_interval, vehicle.train_acceleration_model 06:12:04 <V453000> !Setdef 06:12:05 <Stablean> <Anson> set to on : order.no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, construction.extra_dynamite, economy.mod_road_rebuild, pf.forbid_90_deg, pf.yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol 06:12:07 <V453000> !setdef 06:12:07 <Stablean> *** V453000 has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 06:12:41 <Stablean> <Anson> the last of these is the most important, since it completely changes the tactics when using signals to direct trains to specific platforms or into overflows 06:13:17 <V453000> the last one is train acceleration model? 06:13:36 <Stablean> <Anson> thanks V ... but on the current map, it was already set ... fair was asking about problems with his offline games 06:13:55 <V453000> of course, and that way he can easily read all the necessary settings in our setdef 06:14:22 <Stablean> <Anson> the last that i wrote : rail_firstred_twoway_eol 06:15:15 <V453000> k 06:15:25 <fair> thx :D 06:15:28 <Stablean> <Anson> you need to experiment a bit when only reading the output of setdef in IRC: "disabled" is no accepted value in set-commands 06:15:31 <V453000> still, I wouldnt say it changes nearly as much, it allows for a lot, but doesnt mean people know what 2way does 06:16:11 <Stablean> <Anson> still important to have it set correctly when trying to copy layouts from the wiki to offline games 06:16:22 <V453000> obviously 06:17:23 <fair> yep 06:17:32 <fair> thats true. thanks guys 06:18:46 <Stablean> <Anson> what i still don't know: all the different versions to set values and what the difference is ... set works with and without prefix ? (like rail. pf.ypf. economy, etc) ? 06:19:44 <V453000> well if the setting doesnt have a prefix ... 06:21:03 <Stablean> <Anson> the prefixes are the section headers in the ini fil (config file) ... but i was surprised that they are not needed ingame ? 06:22:53 <V453000> its not like all settings stayed in their categories all the time, some reorganization happens once upon a time 06:27:08 <BiG_MeEcH> HELL YEAH V453000! 06:27:48 <V453000> wat Boxcar 06:27:57 <BiG_MeEcH> HI 06:28:01 <V453000> HELO 06:28:11 <Stablean> <Anson> V, do you know the TV series seaquest DSV ? 06:28:19 <V453000> what is TV 06:28:42 <BiG_MeEcH> Boob Tube 06:28:46 <BiG_MeEcH> Idiot Box 06:29:11 <V453000> dont know that 06:29:26 <Stablean> <Anson> on the last episode, someone had a name tag: "Dagwood, DSV4600" ... guess what i read on first sight when it was only shown for a fraction of a second :-) 06:29:50 <V453000> meh 06:29:57 <Stablean> <Anson> V46000 ... what else ? .-) 06:31:30 <V453000> this is better ... can someone tell me what the fuck is that supposed to mean? :D http://www.trc-canada.com/Structures/V453000.png 06:31:55 <BiG_MeEcH> Molecule 06:32:35 <V453000> http://www.trc-canada.com/detail.php?CatNum=V453000&CAS=14134-06-6&Chemical_Name=9-Vinylphenanthrene&Mol_Formula=C16H12&Synonym=9-Ethenyl%EF%BF%BDphenanthrene%EF%BF%BD; 06:32:36 <Webster> Title: TRC | Details of V453000, CAS#=14134-06-6, 9-Vinylphenanthrene, Synonym=9-Ethenyl�phenanthrene�; (at www.trc-canada.com) 06:32:38 <V453000> I am expensive as fuck 06:32:40 <BiG_MeEcH> carbon and hydrogen 06:33:12 <V453000> 2.5g for 00 06:33:16 <V453000> times 4 times 70 06:33:27 <V453000> @calc 1200*4*70 06:33:27 <Webster> V453000: 336000 06:33:33 <V453000> usd 06:34:03 <V453000> no wait 06:34:15 <V453000> 2.5g times 4 doesnt quite make 1kg :D 06:34:22 <V453000> k *100 06:34:29 <BiG_MeEcH> LMAO 06:34:35 <V453000> 33.6 M dollars bitch 06:34:39 <V453000> same as new lamborghini 06:34:42 <BiG_MeEcH> I typed in V453000 in google images and got this 06:34:43 <V453000> or well aroundish 06:34:43 <BiG_MeEcH> http://dailypicture.yakohl.com/pic/pranger_1012010.jpg 06:34:57 <BiG_MeEcH> Is that you V453000? 06:35:00 <V453000> interesting Eddi pasterd that in irc not long ago 06:35:07 <V453000> pasted 06:35:11 <BiG_MeEcH> haha :D 06:35:15 <BiG_MeEcH> Nice 06:35:22 <BiG_MeEcH> I was going to throw tomatoes at it 06:36:08 <V453000> oh you ketchup whore 06:36:51 <V453000> btw it was a response to this :D http://blog.openttdcoop.org/files/blog/V453000/I_WIN.png 06:37:21 <fair> oO 06:37:23 <V453000> I uploaded their file they had under open license and they disagreed so they claim infringement :> 06:37:41 <V453000> so they promoted me to their arch enemy ... could I ask for more? :D 06:37:43 <BiG_MeEcH> Whao?! wtf 06:38:31 <V453000> long story short, simuscape are retards who cause problems :) 06:38:42 <V453000> I went there for "diplomacy" :D 06:39:23 <Stablean> <Anson> it is C16H12 ... or commonly known as 9-Vinylphenanthrene 06:39:23 <BiG_MeEcH> LMAO 06:39:30 <BiG_MeEcH> I know your form of diplomacy xD 06:39:34 <V453000> its written there Anson ... 06:40:17 <Stablean> <Anson> you only had linked the image, not the page with the description 06:40:25 <V453000> OH 06:40:27 <V453000> ass 06:40:34 <V453000> wanted to paste that too :d 06:40:35 <V453000> meh 06:42:05 <BiG_MeEcH> I'm confused, they claim you stole their sprites? 06:42:49 <Stablean> <Anson> ah ... you pasted that too, but only when i already had switched from irc to the browser window and typed it myself 06:43:03 <Stablean> <Anson> had to scroll back two pages to see it 06:43:07 <V453000> no no sprites 06:43:20 <BiG_MeEcH> just a license file? 06:43:26 <BiG_MeEcH> wtffff? xD 06:43:41 <V453000> years ago there were stolen trees on bananas - and people miss them now, because the thunderwhores made a huge circus and the file got deleted for wtf reasons 06:44:00 <V453000> because our archive is broken without that file, I put it to my dropbox, the old file was gplv2 which lets you share it 06:44:03 <BiG_MeEcH> Oh I think theres a grf called stolen trees 06:44:08 <V453000> .... 06:44:11 <V453000> yes thats a name 06:44:14 <BiG_MeEcH> Nice 06:44:17 <BiG_MeEcH> and its all over ther? 06:44:21 <BiG_MeEcH> *that 06:44:25 <V453000> mostly 06:44:45 <BiG_MeEcH> Great! 06:44:51 <V453000> I uploaded the file to my dropbox - linked on forums - the cunt saw it - claimed infringemetn, which according to gplv2 is nonsense 06:45:22 <V453000> she even claimed she never put the license in there, fun part is last week all of her newGRFs released at simuscape were under CC3 which allows redistribution 06:45:26 <BiG_MeEcH> gpl licesnse is free to share 06:45:32 <V453000> so we uploaded it again under CC3 :D 06:45:49 <V453000> and then simuscape changed all of their licensing to SL13 which disallows it 06:45:55 <BiG_MeEcH> lmao 06:45:58 <V453000> and they claim gplv2 or CC3 never existed for them 06:46:07 <V453000> basically, a bunch of retards who need to make problems 06:46:07 <BiG_MeEcH> neat 06:46:28 <V453000> vs me retard who wanted to make them put stuff on bananas etc, so there wouldnt be those problems 06:47:10 <BiG_MeEcH> Well without that drama, you can get a lot more sprites done now before the binge drinking weekend :D 06:47:23 <V453000> it is a long story, in the beginning of what I know is that they left tt-forums, deleting all of their posts and uploads, making threads broken ... just because they felt like "they were under appreciated" 06:47:36 <V453000> drama was quick and funny 06:47:51 <V453000> also it was a matter of months, the end just happened now :) 06:48:33 <BiG_MeEcH> I'm under appreciated, thats why i start drinking when i wake up in the morning 06:48:44 <V453000> so basically what they do is separate themselves at simuscape, put idiotic licenses, make stupidly inaccessible downloads, and claim that everybody else is waging a "tycoon-war" against them 06:48:46 <V453000> fun stuff 06:50:12 <V453000> so yeah that is for you to know what is actually possible to happen :D 06:50:13 <BiG_MeEcH> oh yes 06:53:54 <Stablean> *** Anson has left the game (leaving) 06:54:04 <V453000> the funniest part would be if they tried to upload NUTS somewhere 06:54:13 <BiG_MeEcH> :D 06:54:25 <V453000> because not only would nobody download it as it is on bananas, but also because they would fall behind on versions very quickly :) 06:55:04 <BiG_MeEcH> yes we need new cargoez nao! 06:55:21 <V453000> drew wood yustordai 06:55:23 <BiG_MeEcH> but first, bedtime! 06:55:31 <BiG_MeEcH> Ladies love my wood 06:55:45 <BiG_MeEcH> WoooooooooooOOooOO!d 06:55:49 <BiG_MeEcH> xD 06:55:52 <BiG_MeEcH> Seeya Boss. 06:56:12 <V453000> :) cya 08:24:18 <fair> hmm..anyone still around ? 08:24:30 <V453000> nope 08:24:34 <fair> =( 08:24:37 <V453000> :) 08:25:12 <fair> but you're the guy whose design I am scratching my head over right now 08:25:36 <V453000> :D 08:25:37 <fair> xD .. its ok, you don't expect you to help me =) 08:25:38 <V453000> which one? 08:26:16 <fair> the most basic overflow ever... xD trains just go to the last red two way signal and stop instead of going in the overflow 08:26:30 <fair> but I guess its some setting i forgot to set 08:26:34 <V453000> and you have the twoway_eol seting on 08:26:36 <V453000> !setdef 08:26:36 <Stablean> *** V453000 has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 08:26:43 <V453000> rail_firstred_twoway_eol 08:26:45 <V453000> this one 08:26:48 <fair> yeah yeah, i got everyone of those set :D 08:27:02 <V453000> close openttd, then open config, edit config, save config, open openttd 08:27:11 <V453000> (will apply only for new games) 08:27:14 <fair> hmm .. worth a try 08:27:25 <V453000> in the existing game, you need to do that through game console 08:27:45 <V453000> and there set rail_firstred_twoway_eol = 1 ... with some "", I can never remember where those go 08:27:48 <V453000> config way is best 08:27:59 <fair> xD 08:28:34 <fair> hmm ah 08:28:50 <V453000> if all else fails just post a screenshot of the problem 08:28:50 <fair> it tells me thy syntax is: setting <name> <value> 08:29:01 <V453000> mhm 08:29:23 <fair> *the .. and rail_firstred_twoway_eol is an "unknown setting" 08:29:29 <fair> everything else is properly set 08:29:31 <V453000> try yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol 08:29:41 <fair> doesn't work either xD 08:29:52 <V453000> just type "set rail_firstred_twoway_eol" 08:29:55 <V453000> without the "" 08:30:09 <V453000> or "set yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol" 08:30:15 <fair> => "Usage: setting <name> <value> 08:30:24 <Anson> pf.yapf.xxxxx 08:30:25 <V453000> !rcon set yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol 08:30:25 <Stablean> V453000: say "<Anson> pf.yapf.xxxxx" 08:30:25 <Stablean> V453000: [All] Stablean: <Anson> pf.yapf.xxxxx 08:30:25 <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1) 08:30:26 <fair> hmm .. let me google 08:30:34 <V453000> yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol is correct 08:30:45 <V453000> so something in your syntax 08:31:01 <V453000> it shouldnt need the pf I think ... but try it 08:31:45 <fair> ah sweet.. thx, it works 08:31:56 <V453000> yw 08:32:05 <fair> it does not work with "setting" .. but with set if the prefix is right 08:32:09 <V453000> onwards to more complex overflows :P 08:32:48 <fair> xD i started on the more compley ones but reduced it to the basic ones, once I saw that I didn't work the way I wanted it to xD 08:33:01 <V453000> :) 08:34:01 <fair> hmm if that option is not set (like on most other servers I guess) .. then there is no way to design an overflow ? 08:34:42 <V453000> there is but not nearly as reliably or sensibly 08:34:45 <V453000> but yes it is possible 08:35:04 <V453000> aka, you can calculate the penalties in a way that when a platform is full (example), train will want to go to the depot 08:35:07 <fair> okay 08:35:17 <fair> :D 08:35:23 <V453000> but that is just stupid bothering and the 2way function makes it precise and reliable, always 08:35:27 <Anson> if you test and try layouts from the wiki, rember that se already are a few years old and they might be outdated 08:35:29 <fair> sounds like headaches 08:35:51 <V453000> nah just a lot of fiddling and testing 08:35:57 <V453000> for every time you build the thing 08:36:07 <fair> yeah, I know that @Anson... figured that much out already :D 08:39:49 <fair> thanks again =) 08:40:05 <fair> works how i want it to now ^^ 08:40:24 <V453000> :) 08:49:35 <V453000> @ABR04 08:49:36 <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 04: Overflows at #openttdcoop - http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/04/26/advanced-building-revue-04-overflows/ 08:50:04 <V453000> hm that article should mention it probably 08:50:08 <V453000> the setting n stuff 08:56:33 <V453000> k all 3 articles regarding overflows mention it now 09:00:37 <V453000> lunch tiem 09:20:34 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:21:00 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 09:48:05 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 09:48:41 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:48:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:50:21 *** tycoondemon2 has quit IRC 12:59:59 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:00:00 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 13:01:13 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has started a new company (#4) 13:01:15 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:26:06 <Stablean> *** Djanxy joined the game 13:27:20 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:27:42 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has left the game (leaving) 13:53:16 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 13:53:16 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 14:43:29 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:43:29 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 14:43:37 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has joined company #4 14:43:37 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 15:04:42 <Stablean> *** Djanxy joined the game 15:06:42 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:06:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 15:11:43 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has started a new company (#5) 15:20:07 *** fair has quit IRC 16:04:26 <Stablean> *** RTM joined the game 16:05:02 <Stablean> <RTM> hi thepower12n 16:05:05 <Stablean> <RTM> hi Djanxy 16:13:04 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 16:16:29 <Stablean> <Djanxy> Hi RTM - better late than never :D 16:19:16 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:34:18 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:37:25 <Stablean> *** Potato joined the game 17:00:44 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali joined the game 17:00:49 <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi 17:02:18 <Stablean> *** iTKerry joined the game 17:02:21 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has left the game (leaving) 17:03:29 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 17:03:34 <Stablean> *** iTKerry has left the game (leaving) 17:03:56 <Stablean> *** iTKerry joined the game 17:05:46 <Stablean> *** {$D.E.M.O.N.$} joined the game 17:09:02 <Stablean> *** $D.E.M.O.N.$ has left the game (leaving) 17:09:18 <Stablean> *** iTKerry has left the game (leaving) 17:16:23 <Stablean> <Djanxy> is it normal behaviour to randomly join a company and start building, just because i forgot to set a company pass ? 17:17:52 <BiG_MeEcH> It is, they dont belong in the company 17:17:55 <BiG_MeEcH> call admin for help 17:25:20 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#6) 17:25:24 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 17:25:40 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 17:37:28 <Stablean> *** Potato has left the game (leaving) 17:55:48 <Anson> djanxy, you can set a default pw which is then used also for all future games. never again forgetting to set one 18:12:33 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 18:12:58 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Yoyo 18:13:28 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has started a new company (#6) 18:14:25 <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi :P 18:15:07 <Stablean> <Djanxy> ah thx Anson, didnt realise it worked like that 18:40:36 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:40:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Maraxus 18:43:08 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 18:43:32 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 18:43:40 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 18:52:22 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 18:53:06 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 19:02:47 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 19:02:55 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Admin can you check to make sure that city growth is turned off? 19:06:31 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 19:06:31 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 19:06:53 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 19:06:57 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 19:09:09 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (general timeout) 19:09:09 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (connection lost) 19:09:29 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 19:19:14 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 19:19:15 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi 19:19:33 <Stablean> <r1kkie> Yo 19:19:35 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 19:22:37 *** Maraxus_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:29:21 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 19:33:43 <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi 19:33:43 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 19:33:47 <Stablean> <thepower12n> hi 19:34:25 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has joined company #4 19:37:38 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 19:39:50 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 19:43:26 *** ODM has quit IRC 19:57:20 *** Maraxus_ has quit IRC 20:11:21 *** chester_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:14:03 <Stablean> *** r1kkie joined the game 20:21:03 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has left the game (leaving) 20:23:13 <Stablean> *** r1kkie has left the game (leaving) 20:39:33 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 20:51:55 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 21:16:30 *** chester_ has quit IRC 21:37:30 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 21:40:02 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 22:12:22 <Stablean> *** Slicey joined the game 22:16:06 <Stablean> *** Slicey has left the game (leaving) 22:31:54 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo 22:40:25 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 22:42:37 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 22:42:37 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:46:23 <Stablean> *** RTM has left the game (leaving) 23:01:40 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 23:01:40 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 23:58:07 *** BiG_MeEcH has quit IRC