Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 26th September 2013:
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03:41:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> heya :)
03:41:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> lo
03:43:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> ya
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03:43:45  <Stablean> <Sylf> I may not be auto registered with nickserv nowadays
03:43:51  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ah, makes sense
03:44:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I was hopong you were't demoted xD
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03:47:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :)
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03:54:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> 2052 tons near darnville :D
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04:12:27  <BiG_MeEcH> seeya :)
04:12:57  <Sylf> probably time for a new map
04:13:08  <BiG_MeEcH> agreed
04:13:38  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo ... i think there was an option to display all versions of ghrfs which are available and not only the newest ... but which option and where to set it ?
04:16:59  <BiG_MeEcH> dunno!
04:20:36  <Sylf> somewhere
04:21:10  <Sylf> use the search function in the advanced option window
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04:22:08  <Stablean> <Anson> search ? or filter ?
04:23:30  <Stablean> <Anson> i don't think it is in the advanced options ... display of newgrfs for selection should be done while no map is active yet
04:23:58  <Sylf> then search the openttd.cfg
04:25:24  <Stablean> <Anson> thanks ... found it ... probably only settable by editing the config directly, and no button ingame
04:25:50  <Stablean> <Anson> newgrf_show_old_versions = false in section [gui]
04:25:57  <Sylf> you can always use set command
04:26:47  <Stablean> <Anson> only after i knw the name of that variable :-)
04:26:58  <BiG_MeEcH> lol, there's a server with the name "Awesome Server - Server may not be awesome" xD
04:27:26  <Stablean> <Anson> and i am not best friends with the set commands ... never know whether i need to add the section name or not
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04:27:59  <Stablean> <Anson> eg gui.newgrf_show_old_versions vs newgrf_show_old_versions
04:31:00  <BiG_MeEcH> Can we do a toyland map?
04:36:01  <Sylf> having trouble creating island filled map
04:36:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> D:
04:36:52  <Sylf> I get 1 hugh island somewhere
04:37:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> weird!
04:37:47  <Stablean> <Anson> is the map too flat ?
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04:39:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yoooooooooooo!
04:39:12  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yoyo
04:39:26  <Stablean> <Anson> did you check terrain type (eg mountain) and smoothness ?
04:42:30  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Nice network DJ
04:42:44  <Stablean> <Djanxy> think so ?
04:44:31  <Stablean> <Anson> stone age railways has a small problem with signaling at Sentbridge Transfer
04:45:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Sure, I like the coal drop
04:45:31  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah, that im really happy about
04:45:35  <Stablean> <Djanxy> seems to work out
04:45:39  <Stablean> <Anson> it is missing signals between the station and the X ... and thus a train from Sentbridge East will block the whole path including the X
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04:46:14  <Sylf> island amputation done
04:46:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> why would it not work>?
04:46:36  <Stablean> <Djanxy> had to be creative with 12 tile station spread :D
04:46:47  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Anson it has PBS everywhere
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04:47:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh
04:47:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> is that what you're talking about?
04:47:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> where would I have to put the signal?
04:47:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> OH
04:47:47  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I think I get it
04:47:49  <Stablean> <Anson> a train from east will use pbs and block the whole track through the station and including the X ... thus a train from the other side will wait in front of the X and not enter the other platform
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04:48:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that?
04:48:49  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, like that ... but opposite direction for the 2way pbs
04:48:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I love amputation!
04:49:07  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I thought with the 2-ways it doesnt matter?
04:49:49  <Stablean> <Anson> the 2way pbs appears as "no signal exists" from one direction. thus it still would reserve the whole track including the X
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04:50:22  <Stablean> <Anson> there is an option in advanced options to show reserved tracks ... that is really helpful to debug such cases
04:51:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hmm okay
04:51:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> turned that on
04:51:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh nice
04:51:35  <Stablean> <Djanxy> easier to see on rails though compared to PURR imo
04:51:46  <Stablean> <Big Meech> never knew about that, thanks!
04:52:26  <Stablean> <Anson> only problem with that option is at bridges and rails : the reserved track is shown as a rail on top of the purr track :-)
04:52:40  <Stablean> <Anson> * at bridges and TUNNELS
04:52:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> looks kinda janky on bridges
04:52:47  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah
04:53:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> looks like the bridge is falling apart as its going over :D
04:53:20  <Stablean> <Djanxy> adds tension !
04:53:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that would be funny if there was a collapsing bridge disaster
04:53:54  <Stablean> <Anson> but it is only a graphical glitch that can't be improved without changing the entire ottd program
04:54:52  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh well, off to work ! cyas
04:54:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> later
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04:57:11  <Sylf> !players
04:57:13  <Stablean> Sylf: Client 284 is Anson, a spectator
04:57:13  <Stablean> Sylf: Client 292 (Pink) is Big Meech, in company 3 (Stone Age Railways)
04:57:13  <Stablean> Sylf: Client 298 (White) is ForestWhittaker, in company 8 (Alcoholic Transport)
04:57:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> interesting to see the train determine ahead of time where it needs to go
04:58:14  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Anson like from Sentbridge East to Transfer, it allocated the empty station tiles for the trian only
04:58:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> must calculate the thing between signals
04:59:06  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> KR transport is AI?
04:59:16  <Stablean> <Anson> that is a problem at stations ... they have an implicit signal at their end
04:59:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> there is no AI
04:59:48  <Stablean> <Anson> when you use a 2way PBS on one side and a 2way block on the other, trains often will crash in the station
04:59:55  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> his rail layout remids me of the original TTD AI
05:00:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> KR might have only played single player before
05:00:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> might look normal to him actually
05:00:53  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, learning how to build a network from AI players is a bad idea :-)
05:01:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I used to do that
05:01:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> my single player games were pretty bad
05:01:32  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> ttd AI was garbage though
05:01:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> true
05:01:50  <Stablean> <Anson> TT networks were even worse
05:01:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> but it was the best they could do in 1994 :)
05:02:04  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> a simple point to point pathfinder would have done nicely
05:02:14  <Stablean> <Anson> you needed to build single tracks all the time, with only a single train on them
05:02:17  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> but what they wanted was an AI that placed track pieces one by one
05:02:47  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> yeah cause no one way signals in the original TT
05:03:18  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> I dont know how they thought 1 way signals were not really needed at the time
05:03:51  <BiG_MeEcH> Whoa, this was kinda cool, just found it on google
05:03:52  <BiG_MeEcH>
05:03:53  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon (at
05:03:56  <Stablean> <Anson> my solution to that problem was to build large loops with single tracks
05:04:27  <Sylf> cool?  it looks like garbage to me...
05:04:30  <Stablean> <Anson> and then playing on hard difficulty so that trains would not turn back in stations, but continue to the next
05:04:34  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> yeah there is a Transport Tycoon (2013)
05:04:53  <BiG_MeEcH> It looks like it would be quite hard to play on other platforms
05:05:01  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> seems like the same as Locomotion
05:05:16  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> The track layer in Locomotion is from RCT
05:05:19  <Sylf> yes, it looks pretty much like locomotion for mobile
05:05:25  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> which is why the whole thing was garbage
05:05:39  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> just the track layer made it complete garbage
05:06:15  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> If they made locomotion with the ttd style track placement tools, It would have been great
05:06:38  <Stablean> <Anson> there is a mobile version of ottd which works quite nicely, besides the fact that i still didn't succeed in properly setting up the mouse emulation and selecting the most important keys
05:08:00  <Stablean> <Anson> but i already successfully joined a multiplayer game and downloaded grfs from bananas on my phone :-)
05:08:26  <Sylf> I have no clue why anyone wants to play openttd on a phone
05:08:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> seems like a bad idea
05:09:01  <Stablean> <Anson> because you want to play it while you are on an hourlong trip with a train ? .-)
05:09:23  <Sylf> and that's the other thing that I'm skeptical about tt 2013
05:09:56  <Sylf> tt or ttd or ottd really benefits from hugh screens
05:09:58  <Sylf> not tiny
05:10:46  <Sylf> if you're that addictide to single game, you should seek help
05:10:52  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, big screens are nice, with all those windows ... but the most important missing feature is the ctrl-key :-)
05:11:06  <Stablean> <Anson> why single game ?
05:11:23  <BiG_MeEcH> I am addicted to OTTD! :D
05:11:29  <Sylf> if you're on a phone, you have multitude of other options
05:11:37  <BiG_MeEcH> Angry Byrds "D
05:12:03  <Anson> or usin irc on the phone :-)
05:13:34  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
05:13:34  <Stablean> Sylf: you are not allowed to use !rcon
05:13:40  <Sylf> bah
05:14:01  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sylf
05:14:05  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
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05:14:18  <BiG_MeEcH> oooo
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05:14:32  <Sylf> !setdef
05:14:32  <Stablean> *** Sylf has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
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05:14:37  <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1
05:14:37  <Stablean> Sylf: players
05:14:37  <Stablean> Sylf: server_info
05:14:37  <Stablean> Sylf: clients
05:14:37  <Stablean> Sylf: echo doneclientcount
05:14:37  <Stablean> Sylf: #:1(Green) Company Name: 'Unnamed'  Year Founded: 1920  Money: 100000  Loan: 100000  Value: 1  (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
05:14:39  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 21 more messages
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05:14:40  <Sylf> !auto
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05:14:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :)
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05:15:39  <Stablean> <Anson> the path_backoff_interval is still 20 and not 1
05:16:22  <Sylf> unimportant
05:17:01  <Stablean> <Anson> only if you don't use PBS
05:18:25  <Sylf> then let's keep it at 20
05:23:47  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> lolwut
05:23:53  <Stablean> <ForestWhittaker> Toyland
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05:24:25  <Stablean> <Big Meech> LMAO
05:24:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Toyland hate
05:24:29  <Sylf> we should play toyland more often
05:24:46  <Sylf> !rcon set path_backoff_interval
05:24:46  <Stablean> Sylf: Current value for 'path_backoff_interval' is: '20' (min: 1, max: 255)
05:24:48  <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#1)
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05:24:48  <Sylf> !rcon set path_backoff_interval 1
05:24:48  <Stablean> Sylf: players
05:24:48  <Stablean> Sylf: server_info
05:24:48  <Stablean> Sylf: clients
05:24:49  <Stablean> Sylf: echo doneclientcount
05:24:49  <Stablean> Sylf: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Anson Transport'  Year Founded: 1920  Money: 100000  Loan: 100000  Value: 1  (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
05:24:51  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 19 more messages
05:24:52  <Sylf> !rcon set path_backoff_interval
05:24:52  <Stablean> Sylf: Current value for 'path_backoff_interval' is: '1' (min: 1, max: 255)
06:03:59  <V453000> I agree with Sylf
06:05:26  <Stablean> <Anson> V, with which of his two opuinions ? to keep it at 20, or to have changed the value ?
06:07:04  <V453000> I didnt takl abuot that statement
06:07:12  <V453000> talk* :)
06:08:22  <Stablean> <Anson> but that was all i could read on irc ... then it was probably a WC ?
06:11:34  <V453000> [08:03] <@Sylf> [05:24:29] we should play toyland more often
06:15:45  <Anson> ah... clearedy history a few times during the last hours :-)
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08:11:49  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, buggy
08:11:56  <Stablean> <bug sniper> hi
08:12:55  <Stablean> <bug sniper> so do you build those cola wells or do you use what already exists?
08:13:19  <Stablean> <Anson> cola is a primary "mine"
08:13:49  <Stablean> <Anson> just like bubbles, floss, toffee, etc
08:14:03  <Stablean> <bug sniper> so you don't fund them?
08:14:30  <Stablean> <Anson> you can only prospect primaries, not fund
08:14:40  <Stablean> <bug sniper> that's what I mean
08:14:50  <Stablean> <Anson> at least that is the setting in this map
08:16:36  <Stablean> <bug sniper> maybe I can join just to get the soda to the houses, which appearantly isn't being done right now
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08:18:18  <Stablean> <bug sniper> thanks
08:19:26  <Stablean> <bug sniper> 1 directional?
08:21:40  <Stablean> <bug sniper> do you have any towns you'd like to expand?
08:25:38  <Stablean> <bug sniper> I don't know why you need to hide your depots
08:26:24  <Stablean> <bug sniper> I see
08:27:14  <Stablean> <bug sniper> so how about growing brenfingburg with the coke
08:28:49  <Stablean> <bug sniper> maybe just coke or candy
08:28:56  <Stablean> <bug sniper> we can get all of that
08:30:50  <Stablean> <bug sniper> also, does it help more to have longer train routes or shorter ones?
08:31:41  <Stablean> <bug sniper> I think there are better towns to expand than flennley market
08:31:47  <Stablean> <Anson> look at the prices on this map ... almost everything is almost free :-) ... only TF costs a bit and water TF a lot
08:32:06  <Stablean> <bug sniper> yeah
08:32:24  <Stablean> <bug sniper> did you see my sings for the towns of choice to expand?
08:32:50  <Stablean> <Anson> towns accept candy and fizzy ... for toys there are shops
08:33:12  <Stablean> <bug sniper> the toy shops actually aren't part of the towns for some reason
08:33:22  <Stablean> <bug sniper> but did you see my signs?
08:33:40  <Stablean> <bug sniper> I was going to expand penhill actually
08:33:59  <Stablean> <bug sniper> because it's closer to cola factories
08:34:38  <Stablean> <Anson> cola ? that is a primary/resource
08:34:52  <Stablean> <Anson> fizzy drinks are delivered to towns
08:34:58  <Stablean> <bug sniper> yeah, those
08:35:37  <Stablean> <Anson> and for the distance, transporting fizzy from the opposite side would match the layout of transporting everything around the loop :-)
08:36:07  <Stablean> <bug sniper> yeah, if you don't mind the crowding
08:36:21  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, the crowding is the goal :-)
08:36:31  <Stablean> <bug sniper> and the fact that you can't use multiple  speeds that way
08:36:31  <Stablean> <Anson> crowding without jamming
08:37:15  <Stablean> <Anson> all trains should be the same anyway ... TL3, and refitted to a good engine when available
08:38:05  <Stablean> <Anson> only pax would be different ... but you can make a separate network for pax if you want to do pax at all
08:38:47  <Stablean> <Anson> i just did a simple bus line and Flennley Market started to grow
08:39:13  <Stablean> <bug sniper> so do you extend your sideline hub from one track or 2?
08:39:13  <Stablean> <Anson> thus nothing else is needed
08:39:51  <Stablean> <Anson> in the future, maybe even a third line will be needed, and all sidelines should connect to all mainline lines
08:40:59  <Stablean> <bug sniper> another problem with that town is where to put the station because the land is very hily
08:43:17  <Stablean> <bug sniper> I mean, where are you going to flatten some land for a station?
08:43:39  <Stablean> <Anson> why flatten ? it is flat enough :-)
08:44:07  <Stablean> <bug sniper> only if your trains are 1 tile long
08:44:29  <Stablean> <Anson> look at penthill ... the station is there
08:44:43  <Stablean> <bug sniper> yeah
08:44:46  <Stablean> <bug sniper> there it is now
08:47:06  <Stablean> <bug sniper> is that station ok, or would you prefer something flattened at franwell heights?
08:51:14  <Stablean> <Anson> pent would be ideal, opposite the factory with the sign "fizzy for pent"
08:52:04  <Stablean> <Anson> and Flennley Market or maybe (probably not) Great Banley Market ... opposite the other fiozzy factory
08:55:03  <Stablean> <Anson> it should even be possible to refit trains, getting new resources from the sideline at SLJ01 after the drinks were dropped, but that would meke the whole system more complicated while at the same time reducing the number of empty trains on the loop ... it's up to you
08:58:51  <Stablean> <bug sniper> ok
09:00:01  <Stablean> <bug sniper> I'm actually getting tired. I'll see you another time.
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12:10:24  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#2)
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12:10:49  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to ReedEX
12:11:01  <Stablean> <Anson> you can also set a default name on the window where you select multiplayer game
12:11:24  <Stablean> <ReedEX> i know but i fargot :-D
12:11:35  <Stablean> *** ReedEX has started a new company (#3)
12:11:43  <Stablean> <Anson> do it once and you never need to remember :-)
12:11:53  <Stablean> <ReedEX> i know
12:12:10  <Stablean> <ReedEX> i have reinstaled computer :-D
12:12:37  <Stablean> <Anson> oh ... i had the same problem a year ago when my old comp crashed
12:12:50  *** V453000 is now known as i
12:12:55  <Stablean> <Anson> i still have not setup my keybindings etc
12:13:14  *** i is now known as V453000
12:17:49  <Stablean> <ReedEX> can u give me money pls
12:18:11  <Stablean> <Anson> on this map, almost everything is free
12:18:26  <Stablean> <Anson> except terraforming and most of all terraforming water
12:18:44  <Stablean> <ReedEX> pls give me a money
12:19:40  <Stablean> <Anson> why do you need money ? when i started, i didn't even need to take additional loan to build a double mainline around the lake
12:20:14  <Stablean> <ReedEX> ok i dont need i wont
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12:27:31  <V453000> XD
12:27:37  <V453000> w
12:27:37  <V453000> t
12:27:37  <V453000> f
12:28:12  <Stablean> <Anson> ?
12:34:16  <V453000> [14:20] <+Stablean> <ReedEX> ok i dont need i wont
12:34:19  <V453000> tfw
12:34:23  <V453000> fwt
12:34:26  <V453000> ttt
12:34:45  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, really strange ...
12:35:51  <Stablean> <Anson> he had only taken 20% of max loan and for a short line used 10% of max loan, must have done some TF
12:36:29  <Stablean> <Anson> i would guess that he would have flattened something with more money available
12:40:36  <Stablean> <Anson> I'm AFK now ... CU
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13:39:39  <Stablean> <Muel> hi
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14:31:37  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hey V
14:31:41  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
14:32:15  <Stablean> <Djanxy> was all happy about my station rebuild and now its gone ! :D
14:32:30  <Stablean> <V453000> oh you mean the new map
14:32:33  <Stablean> <V453000> well nothing lasts forever :)
14:32:39  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nah its fine
14:32:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> except its toyland ;)
14:33:05  <Stablean> <V453000> I like toyland.
14:33:20  <Stablean> <Djanxy> the colors get to me
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15:53:05  <Stablean> <Djanxy> mmk, guess im not gonna expand much down here..
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16:19:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> there you go happy, feel free to use the rest of the island..
16:30:37  <Stablean> <Djanxy> well in the future you might wanna consider that people wanna expand, and not grab everything that is near
16:30:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> plenty of room on the map
16:32:14  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah thanks, but ill do my own
16:32:29  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
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16:39:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi jam
16:39:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
16:40:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how things  jam
16:40:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> fine how's you?
16:41:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
16:42:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> jam   have  a look  at my drop of
16:42:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> looking
16:43:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> I see it what is the problem?
16:43:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> why do you need a waypoint there?
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16:44:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> just trying  sume thin
16:44:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok
16:44:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be  cours  in the larst  game     my wood drop of   had  a waypoint
16:45:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok so why do you want me to look now?
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16:46:04  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i  whont to   no  if  i ade mor trans  wood  it  hold  it
16:46:27  <Stablean> <Jam35> there is room for a few
16:46:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> but...
16:46:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> expansion is hard there
16:46:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> that puddle does not help
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16:47:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> so later on when you need to expand it will be difficult
16:47:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> like for 2 lines
16:47:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i see
16:48:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> is it meant to be for all trains: toys & drinks?
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16:48:12  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
16:48:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
16:48:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
16:48:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok   i  mite  move  it   so i  ot mor room
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16:49:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> happy: is it for toys and drinks?
16:49:27  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> and sweets
16:49:33  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yes
16:49:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> no
16:49:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> separate them
16:50:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> are you going to build 3 pick stations there?
16:50:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> no way
16:51:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> I would make that one for drinks
16:51:28  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok   i mite doo  toys  and fizzy drinks  and  i  will  not doo the sweets
16:51:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> and still move it up on to that hill area
16:51:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
16:52:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> see if you can fund new industries there first
16:52:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> but don't actually fund it
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16:53:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> one industry per town right?
16:53:23  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> fund  is  ver chep
16:53:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i think  so
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16:55:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> dont forget you need to fit at least 2 stations around it
16:56:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> and it would be nice to have maximum spread 12
16:56:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> or at least 8
16:59:13  <V453000> !rcon set station_spread
16:59:13  <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'station_spread' is: '12' (min: 4, max: 64)
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17:28:17  <V453000> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
17:28:21  <V453000> new stuff looks shit
17:28:23  <V453000> what do :D
17:28:34  <V453000> might just finish it and redraw later
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18:10:59  <Stablean> <RTM> hi Anson
18:11:05  <Stablean> <RTM> hi happy tran  sport
18:11:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  rtm
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19:07:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> double Anson :o
19:08:48  <Stablean> <Anson> only a test for the connect command :-9
19:08:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
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19:22:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I KNEW IT
19:22:29  <Stablean> <Djanxy> orly
19:23:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> damn toyland
19:23:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
19:23:17  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ah ye :P
19:23:19  <Stablean> <Djanxy> agreed
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19:31:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Djanxy, I would like to join your company
19:32:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> would you mind?
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19:32:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> go ahead
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19:32:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> im playing another game atm :D
19:32:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you don't need a pw?
19:33:25  <Stablean> <Djanxy> just removed it
19:33:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where are you also playing?
19:33:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I'm putting 'hatfield' as pw
19:34:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> league of legends :D
19:34:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, I thought another game of ottd elsewhere
19:34:55  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nah - so a bit busy next 20-30 mins :D
19:37:05  <V453000> LOL Troy :> welcome to toyland
19:37:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I knew it
19:37:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> when Meech said you were going to introduce a splendid new version of NUTS
19:38:19  <V453000> whiiiich isnt there quite yet :D
19:38:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I thought you said it was coming in the new game?
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19:40:09  <V453000> well if it isnt available yet and sylf made a map ... :)
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19:44:34  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  all
19:44:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
19:44:42  <Stablean> <Speedy> hi happy
19:44:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
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19:45:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
19:47:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how are you?
19:47:11  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
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20:01:35  <V453000> FUCK I ran out of random IDs
20:01:40  <V453000> need to do shitload of code digging
20:05:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> troy  nice  net  werk
20:06:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I think by now I've added as much as Djanxy began with
20:07:18  <Stablean> <Speedy> wery nice
20:11:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i  mite  need  your  help  troy   i got to  find a  new  place  for  my  sweet  drop  and toy drop
20:11:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you don't have an old drop
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20:13:04  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i  doo    see my  sign  say  toy and   sweet
20:13:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where?
20:14:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you mean where cola and bubbles are dropped off?
20:14:16  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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20:14:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> that  the   old  drop  of the  sweet
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20:19:31  <Stablean> <drek> hi
20:19:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
20:19:40  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
20:19:46  <Stablean> <drek> geeze...toyland :)
20:19:50  <V453000> hy
20:20:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I like you already
20:21:56  <Stablean> <drek> are costs like cheap here or ?
20:22:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> TF is expensive
20:22:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> water TF especially
20:22:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but tracks and trains are cheap as fuck
20:22:38  <Stablean> <drek> heh ok was just curious what kind of distance I could do
20:22:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I mean, like 0 per train
20:25:10  <Stablean> <drek> ok guess I'll give it a try then..can't hurt after all :)
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20:25:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> try to build on an own island
20:25:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it would reduce conflicts with other player
20:25:51  <Stablean> <drek> I'm going for near Plarnington
20:26:21  <Stablean> <drek> or did you meant absolutely 'island'?
20:26:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> try not to get in eachothers way is all
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20:26:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> stealing is a nono, but crossing rails is okay
20:26:55  <Stablean> <drek> heh np...I'm too far away from green anyway
20:27:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oke
20:27:31  <Stablean> <drek> thankful for graphic option to hide these trees .. they almost make my eyes fall :)
20:27:34  <Stablean> <drek> heh
20:27:36  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you
20:27:42  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you've been busy troy ;)
20:27:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> me?
20:27:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yep
20:28:48  <Stablean> <drek> does the rail names mean anything or they're all the same single type/
20:28:50  <Stablean> <drek> ?*
20:29:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, rail/erail/mono/maglev matters
20:29:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but purr doesn't
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20:29:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I don't even know what it stands for, but it's like universal
20:29:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> only with colours
20:29:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> troy, check my sign
20:29:51  <Stablean> <drek> so anything except Brickwalker can run on any tracks?
20:30:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I dunno
20:30:59  <Stablean> <drek> think I can make some sense of the nutty list...thanks anyway
20:31:21  <V453000> PURR Universal Rainbow Rails
20:31:32  <Stablean> <Djanxy> dont think so - but i've not seen that much :D
20:31:39  <V453000> anything can run on PURR
20:34:24  <Stablean> <Djanxy> wouldn't it still turn without the loop ?
20:34:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, it would
20:34:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but why would trains go in there?
20:34:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they can't find a direct path to their station
20:35:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so you would have to use a waypoint order first to let them go in there
20:35:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this circumvents that
20:35:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> without the loop, the trains would be lost
20:36:09  <Stablean> <Djanxy> just thought id done something similar just with a dead end
20:37:04  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> troy  u got a tran q
20:37:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> trains coming out of Brondinghead Woods are actually lost for a while
20:37:16  <Stablean> <Djanxy> but then it's because it cant go any other way ?
20:37:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> until they turn
20:37:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
20:37:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah i get that
20:37:39  <Stablean> <V453000> mooo
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20:37:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thanks
20:37:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> np
20:37:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> vy
20:38:00  <Stablean> <V453000> vyvy
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20:38:22  <Stablean> <Djanxy> semiafk again
20:41:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, happy
20:41:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> your stations are very big
20:41:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> platforms will go unused
20:41:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> did you make it?
20:41:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> jam  did
20:42:02  <Stablean> <V453000> MOAR TRAINS FTW
20:42:21  <Stablean> <V453000> I think Jam35 fears loading stages after last game with maglev XD
20:42:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> think so too
20:42:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> but  no i got to doo  the sam  whive  the sweet  droop
20:42:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> loading stages only get fewer now (?)
20:43:06  <Stablean> <V453000> different.
20:43:12  <Stablean> <V453000> for maglev, from 10 to 3, yes
20:43:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you should move that sweet drop
20:43:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there's a nice place
20:43:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but you can only support 1 line there
20:43:54  <Stablean> <V453000> lies
20:44:01  <Stablean> <drek> what is "wagon capacity" for locomotives?
20:44:16  <Stablean> <V453000> probably capacity wagons have when attached to that train
20:44:23  <Stablean> <drek> hmm ok
20:44:25  <Stablean> <V453000> you can read that at
20:44:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> whont a bout  this place    for  sweet  see  my  sign say this
20:44:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or you could ask the maker of the train set
20:44:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> don't know if he's here... ;)
20:44:45  <Stablean> <V453000> specifically
20:45:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, I meant that place
20:45:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but it could probably support only 1 line at the moment
20:45:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  but ferst  i got to mak this  a slh
20:48:12  <Stablean> <drek> could wish for a slight flatter landscape but not going to complain
20:48:19  <Stablean> <drek> will make do with whatever I can fit against hill
20:48:25  <Stablean> <drek> :)
20:48:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> most can
20:48:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> only 'fast' trains might have difficulty in double configuration
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21:00:05  <BiG_MeEcH> yoooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo
21:00:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
21:00:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, I was partly right, Meech
21:00:24  <V453000> hy
21:00:28  <BiG_MeEcH> I requested toyland :D
21:00:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you...
21:00:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> YOU
21:00:41  <BiG_MeEcH> ME
21:00:42  <BiG_MeEcH> me
21:00:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> damn you
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21:00:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there is a special place in Hell for people like you
21:00:49  <BiG_MeEcH> :D
21:00:53  <Stablean> <thepower12n> toyland hurst my eyes;p
21:01:15  <BiG_MeEcH> Tolynad is fun
21:02:37  <Stablean> <V453000> everybody to hate on toyland will be dealt with appropriately
21:03:03  <Stablean> <Djanxy> a celebration ?
21:03:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there'll be toys
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21:03:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and sweets
21:03:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and cola
21:04:15  <Stablean> <V453000> wat
21:04:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi big meech
21:04:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and flashy signs
21:04:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> saying:
21:04:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> "THIS IS TOYLAND"
21:04:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> "ENJOY YOURSELVES!"
21:05:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah
21:05:39  <V453000> dont cry you asked for it!
21:06:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I don't think he saw it coming, though
21:07:28  <V453000> Meech you bastard
21:11:06  <Stablean> *** thepower12n has started a new company (#8)
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21:11:51  <Stablean> <Potato> Sup
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21:23:23  <Stablean> <drek> just about any kind of town with a building or few accepts candy right?
21:23:28  <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game
21:23:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> guess so
21:23:41  <Stablean> <Potato> I think so
21:23:43  <Stablean> <V453000> more or less
21:23:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just check if it accepts
21:23:47  <Stablean> <V453000> depends on buildings
21:23:47  <Stablean> <thepower12n> candy is like food
21:23:49  <Stablean> <thepower12n> just more sugar;p
21:23:52  <Stablean> <V453000> just checking is best
21:23:54  <Stablean> <drek> thanks..was just curious about the toyland things
21:23:56  <Stablean> <drek> thepower...hehe :)
21:24:06  <Stablean> <drek> just have to pick a mayor that doesn't hate me :P
21:24:16  <Stablean> <V453000> if you use the "?" tool, clicking on the buildings must give together 1/1 or more of cargo to accapt it
21:24:26  <Stablean> <V453000> e.g. two buildings of 4/8 goods will make station accept good
21:24:28  <Stablean> <V453000> s
21:24:31  <Stablean> <V453000> or something like that
21:24:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I suggest hovering a station layout over a town
21:25:03  <Stablean> <thepower12n> almost every building gives 2/8 candy
21:25:10  <Stablean> <thepower12n> so a city of 4 would be enough
21:29:26  <Stablean> <thepower12n> small jam blue;p
21:29:34  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i blame Troy
21:29:45  <Stablean> <Djanxy> also replacing i see
21:30:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's the reason, amongst other
21:31:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hopefully the strong trains will  ease the pain of that join
21:31:37  <Stablean> <V453000> strong x2 at TL3 is a bit overkill
21:31:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dear lord, only half way
21:32:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can't tell me what to do
21:32:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I'll do whatever I want
21:34:15  <Stablean> <V453000> apparently the compiler tells me the same today
21:34:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> lol
21:34:36  <Stablean> <V453000> killed 30 000 lines of code and removed 60 000 sprites from nuts today XD
21:34:38  <Stablean> <V453000> not like they were doing much
21:34:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what was the use of those lines then?
21:34:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if they can be removed
21:35:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> fancyfying?
21:35:05  <Stablean> <V453000> C4T hs 17 various colours
21:35:07  <Stablean> <thepower12n> making it look big ;p
21:35:14  <Stablean> <V453000> for the wagons
21:35:20  <Stablean> <V453000> but it is barely visible at all
21:35:21  <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game
21:35:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sup bishes
21:35:27  <Stablean> <V453000> now they will have one
21:35:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, there's the scourge
21:35:44  <Stablean> <V453000> speeds up compiling considerably, and nobody will notice expect meech nobody cares about
21:36:02  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I Like how we have a potato on board
21:37:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> blue it looks like you need more lanes going to candy
21:37:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> shut up
21:37:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> MORE LANES
21:37:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> shut up, I'm in denial
21:37:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
21:37:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> truth hurts?
21:37:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> first see how this replacing turns out
21:38:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> why can't you be more like red, red has no jam
21:38:03  <Stablean> <Djanxy> was probably his plan all along, hijack my company and jam lines
21:38:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but I'm not very positive about the outlooks
21:38:11  <Stablean> <Potato> Wtf
21:38:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> good plan
21:38:16  <Stablean> *** Eurymachus has left the game (leaving)
21:38:32  <Stablean> <Potato> The theme from two and a half men is in my playlist now
21:38:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I put it there.
21:38:45  <Stablean> <Potato> Oh
21:38:48  <Stablean> <V453000> meech is half man
21:38:50  <Stablean> <Potato> we]ll
21:38:52  <Stablean> <Djanxy> men men men men men men men
21:38:52  <Stablean> <Potato> sfadgf
21:38:58  <Stablean> <thepower12n> set train max to 20 hard to get a jam that way
21:39:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> It's always my plan to jam lines
21:39:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> do do do do do men men men manly man do do do do do
21:39:12  <Stablean> <V453000> ._.
21:39:18  <Stablean> <V453000> im done
21:39:29  <Stablean> <Potato> menly men men men
21:39:43  <Stablean> <Potato> men men men MEN MENLY MEEEEN
21:40:27  <Stablean> <drek> at least I'm not surprised these locomotives don't mind the sharp curves I have to use for lack of the usual space I like to have
21:40:38  <BiG_MeEcH> some have tilt
21:40:52  <Stablean> <V453000> rail behaves normally
21:40:54  <Stablean> <drek> well I was talking about the 90 degree know? :)
21:41:08  <Stablean> <V453000> rail trains on purr = still rail
21:41:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> it shouldnt do 90 degree turns
21:41:13  <Stablean> <drek> normally I try ignore them because usual locomotives have issues especially at low kN
21:41:16  <Stablean> <V453000> he means CL1
21:41:18  <Stablean> <V453000> 2x45
21:41:33  <Stablean> <Big Meech> should learn how to build with wider curves
21:41:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> my girlfriend has wide curves, thats how I got started
21:41:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or slower engines
21:41:47  <Stablean> <V453000> OR use slugs
21:41:47  <Stablean> <V453000> right
21:41:53  <Stablean> <V453000> RIGHT
21:41:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> slugs is a good answer
21:42:03  <Stablean> <thepower12n> or build shorter trains;p
21:42:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yep
21:42:28  <Stablean> <drek> I'm sticking to 4 tiles fixed length I'm not too worried thanks tho ;)
21:43:38  <Stablean> <drek> anyway wheres blue so I can just look...
21:43:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I would say !here if I thought you knew what to do with it
21:44:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> middle of the map i guess
21:44:10  <Stablean> <Djanxy> im not taking responsibility for anything !
21:44:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> blame Troy
21:44:20  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i am !
21:44:22  <Stablean> <V453000> you can always blame Meech Djanxy
21:44:24  <Stablean> <Djanxy> that too
21:44:26  <Stablean> <drek> heh busy lines you got there
21:44:26  <Stablean> <Potato> What does !here do?
21:44:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nothing
21:44:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but I can make a sign
21:44:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and you could look it up
21:44:45  <Stablean> <V453000> XD
21:44:45  <Stablean> <Potato> Oh
21:44:47  <Stablean> <V453000> XD
21:44:51  <Stablean> <V453000> oh that
21:44:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> would you know how to look it up?
21:44:53  <Stablean> <V453000> asdf
21:45:00  <Stablean> <Potato> Nope
21:45:10  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i only take responsibility for awesome arrow fletching double station of d00m
21:45:12  <Stablean> <V453000> I Thought Troy was just making signs because why the fuck not
21:45:14  <Stablean> <V453000> the meech way
21:45:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sometimes
21:45:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not now
21:45:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I put signs everywhere like Happy Transport
21:46:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> drek, would you know how to look up signs?
21:46:26  <Stablean> <drek> ugh ... looks like my cotton dried up..I hate that
21:46:32  <Stablean> <drek> yeah troy
21:46:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so you would be able to find !here?
21:46:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sounds like my girlfriend, she is so dry
21:47:03  <Stablean> <Potato> eww
21:47:14  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
21:47:16  <Stablean> <Djanxy> guess she would be
21:47:22  <Stablean> <Djanxy> with that BF
21:49:12  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nothing, im going to bed - i trust you solved it by the morning
21:49:14  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :D
21:49:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D
21:49:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> all up to you Troy
21:49:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> probs not
21:49:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> getting rid of all the sweets train is one option
21:49:54  <Stablean> <Djanxy> im off, have fun guys
21:49:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but rebuilding the area, and a seperate BBH elsewhere also is
21:50:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> goodnight Djanxy
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21:50:33  <Stablean> <Big Meech> woooooooooooo!
21:51:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Meech, are you a troll?
21:51:59  <Stablean> <V453000> I just ditched 2 days of drawing sprites but they look nicer now XD
21:52:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I'm sure Picasso would agree
21:52:52  <Stablean> <thepower12n> build more trains blue to much candy waiting;p
21:53:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nope
21:53:28  <Stablean> <thepower12n> just to reach a full lockdown
21:55:02  <Stablean> <drek> I kinda like the universal car idea...just pick one and refit it to anything
21:55:12  <Stablean> <drek> (yeah first time I've ever seen this nuts grf)
21:55:30  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
22:00:27  <Stablean> <Potato> What does a greyed out fizzy cola factory mean?
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22:02:58  <Stablean> <drek> troy can I ask a quick favour?
22:03:01  <Stablean> <thepower12n> hm it says i can refit reborn + capacity - speed
22:03:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sure
22:03:10  <Stablean> <thepower12n> but can't find the option in the refit menu
22:03:53  <Stablean> <drek> troy well against the issue of limited landscaping to place station in and trying to make some sense of this new kind of trains .. could you tell me what you think of the general layout of station+junction for now tho?
22:04:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> honestly?
22:04:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> any junction in particular
22:04:19  <Stablean> <thepower12n> lol;p
22:04:19  <Stablean> <drek> if you want to :)
22:04:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> any junction in particular?
22:04:36  <Stablean> <drek> nah
22:04:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's awfull
22:05:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I'm guessing you need an argumentation, right?
22:05:15  <Stablean> <drek> heh its ok
22:05:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, without argumentation, it;s just an insult
22:05:32  <Stablean> <drek> I'm a lot better with normal tracks on flatter lands so .. fair enough :)
22:05:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I don't mean to that but hey
22:06:00  <Stablean> <drek> I do wonder why theres no nutty buses or ships tho
22:06:02  <Stablean> <drek> :P
22:06:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> waste of CPU
22:06:15  <Stablean> <thepower12n> trains are all you need;p
22:06:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> plust V's just more into trains
22:06:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> more complex, they can fail if you do it wrong
22:06:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> buses won't do that
22:06:32  <Stablean> <drek> thepower...heh?
22:06:50  <Stablean> <thepower12n> ?
22:06:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sure you don't want me to comment more, drek?
22:07:06  <Stablean> <drek> well..its a free chat so .. go ahead
22:07:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sec
22:07:44  <V453000> [00:03] <+Stablean> <thepower12n> but can't find the option in the refit menu ....... that isnt a refit, it is just to note that that "subclass" has more capacity but less speed
22:07:50  <V453000> the only refit is recolours
22:07:52  <Stablean> <drek> oh I take it back..there is some silly ships
22:08:06  <Stablean> <thepower12n> ah ok thanks for the info
22:08:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, I can give you two ways of looking at it
22:08:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> one has got to do with money
22:08:36  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#7)
22:08:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and the other one with general systems flow
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22:09:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> to make as much money as possible, you need to move your stuff from A to B as fast as possible
22:09:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> tight corners take the speed out of your vehicles
22:09:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> as do (relatively) fast engines with heavy cargos
22:09:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> when things get more crowded, you might want to think about expanding your network
22:10:09  <Stablean> <thepower12n> avoid long bridge their only can be 1 train on a bridge
22:10:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you are not building to accommodate that
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22:10:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you want minimum signal distance
22:10:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and with junctions, you can't actually go less than 2 (which is what you have now)
22:10:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so that's cool
22:11:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but the distance between signals are increased near bridges and tunnels
22:11:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> *in
22:11:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that isn't a problem now, but it could be lateron
22:11:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you don't want the stations of several industries too close to one another
22:12:04  <Stablean> <drek> yeah the twin tunnels near eastburg springs was me just being slight lazy to avoid more grades for now ..
22:12:16  <Stablean> <drek> green - again.. too lazy to landscape but yah :->
22:12:27  <Stablean> <V453000> if you want maximum money you build point to point shit without networking :P
22:12:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if production drops or it disappears, you might get a jam of trains waiting for the emptyinig station, whereas the trains can't get in the full station
22:13:05  <Stablean> <drek> troy yeah on my games I've usually had a long dedicated entry track for a station that had more trains than platforms .. if thats what you were getting at too
22:13:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> all in all
22:13:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yep
22:13:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> all in all
22:13:26  <Stablean> <V453000> it is possible to store trains in depots on demand for such cases :)
22:13:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you don't have any problems now
22:13:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they're not visible
22:13:41  <Stablean> <drek> V453000 or that other option too yeah
22:13:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but put a bit more strain on it and it breaks
22:14:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> V is talking about automatic release and storage of trains
22:14:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you don't have to touch any button at all
22:14:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> overflow depot
22:14:26  <Stablean> <drek> anyway I need to get supper started .. so be back a bit later :->
22:14:29  <Stablean> <V453000> magix
22:14:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
22:14:33  <Stablean> <V453000> bai
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22:21:48  <Stablean> <V453000> 8D few sprites remain till finish
22:22:43  <Stablean> <V453000> tomorrow is the day :) gnight
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22:22:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
22:23:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thx
22:23:59  <Stablean> <thepower12n> np
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22:32:50  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> troy  i have try  to  doo a slh    whont  doo  u think
22:33:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, that
22:33:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm
22:33:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the idea is there
22:33:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but there are some short curves
22:34:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and it isn't really built to be expanded
22:34:56  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i see
22:36:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i will  have a nuver  go   at it  to mor   when  i cume back
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22:37:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> gn  all
22:37:11  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> have fun
22:37:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
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22:42:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, drek is jammed now
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