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00:27:11 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:27:11 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 00:27:13 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 00:53:31 <Stablean> <bon> ughh ... seriously .. why am I almost out of fund again? :| 01:10:30 <Stablean> <bon> I swear someone need to recheck the construction costs...it shouldn't cost a lot just to try hop unbuildable water tiles 01:48:29 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 01:48:29 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 01:50:10 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 01:52:08 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 02:15:38 <Sylf> !date 02:15:38 <Stablean> Sylf: 11 Jun 2167 02:23:15 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 02:23:16 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 02:35:28 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 03:01:23 <Sylf> !rcon load 2 03:01:32 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 03:01:36 <Sylf> !date 03:01:36 <Stablean> Sylf: 1 Jan 1920 03:01:50 <Sylf> !auto 03:01:50 <Stablean> *** Sylf has enabled autopause mode. 03:01:53 <Sylf> !setdef 03:01:53 <Stablean> *** Sylf has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 03:02:03 <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1 03:02:03 <Stablean> Sylf: Company deleted. 03:02:54 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 03:02:54 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 03:05:46 <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#1) 03:05:46 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 03:13:44 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 03:13:52 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yoyoyoyoyooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! 03:13:54 <Stablean> <Sylf> yoyo 03:14:09 <Stablean> <Big Meech> he, you just made this? :) 03:14:15 <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah 03:14:27 <Stablean> <Sylf> and I finally pinpointed the cause of rail conversion problem 03:14:37 <Stablean> <Big Meech> and what would that be? 03:14:48 <Stablean> <Sylf> Base price mod 03:15:10 <Stablean> <Big Meech> v453000 will be interested in your fix 03:15:28 <Stablean> <Big Meech> what was causing it? 03:15:31 <Stablean> <Sylf> if base price mod is loaded after purr, it breaks the conversion 03:15:46 <Stablean> <Big Meech> b/c after you left yesterday i was able to convert with no problems in the old game 03:18:51 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 03:24:08 <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh , have you been building all with prsigs? I can change my station layout :) 03:24:30 <Stablean> <Sylf> it doesn't matter 03:24:36 <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh okie doke 03:31:46 <Stablean> <Big Meech> going wide early? 03:31:50 <Stablean> <Sylf> yes 03:34:04 <Stablean> <Big Meech> you making that new line to oil too? 03:34:24 <Stablean> <Big Meech> cz i can connect oil 03:34:26 <Stablean> <Sylf> no 03:34:33 <Stablean> <Sylf> this is food 03:34:41 <Stablean> <Big Meech> okie 03:35:19 <Stablean> <Big Meech> so that line connet food stuffs only? 03:35:33 <Stablean> <Sylf> no 03:35:47 <Stablean> <Sylf> It really doesn't matter what connects to what so early in the game 03:35:53 <Stablean> <Sylf> just build and expand 03:36:45 <Stablean> <Sylf> connect Great Grondhattan fruits 03:36:59 <Stablean> <Sylf> forget the stuff that's so close to the plant 03:37:09 <Stablean> <Big Meech> well i will finish this one first 03:38:40 <Stablean> <Big Meech> if i do that the line from oil will have to connect to fruits line 03:38:58 <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah 03:39:00 <Stablean> <Sylf> I know 03:39:15 <Stablean> <Sylf> we connect all lines eventually in all games 03:42:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> thats not fruit 03:42:35 <Stablean> <Big Meech> its rubber 03:42:38 <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah 03:42:49 <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh doh! 03:42:55 <Stablean> <Big Meech> they go to same place right? 03:42:57 <Stablean> <Sylf> no 03:43:11 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Double Doh! 03:50:14 <Stablean> <Big Meech> brb 04:02:31 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (general timeout) 04:02:31 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 04:06:46 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (processing map took too long) 04:06:46 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 04:07:04 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 04:07:07 <Stablean> <Big Meech> WoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 04:07:14 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #1 04:13:46 <Stablean> <Big Meech> any interest in connecting great grondhattan oil wells as a feeder? 04:14:12 <Stablean> <Sylf> none 04:17:27 <Stablean> <Big Meech> anthing else need dooing? 04:17:49 <Stablean> <Sylf> no 04:17:55 <Stablean> <Sylf> there's no need 04:18:02 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol 04:18:12 <Stablean> <Big Meech> sounds like bullshit to me 04:18:22 <Stablean> <Big Meech> goods and food route? 04:18:44 <Stablean> <Sylf> if that's what you want next 04:19:50 <Stablean> <Sylf> it's still very early in the game, so it's anything goes 04:20:06 <Stablean> <Sylf> and with everything so cheap, there's nothing that should be holding anyone back from building anything 04:20:24 <Stablean> <Big Meech> food drop? :) 04:22:18 <Stablean> <Big Meech> do you think we could get away with a drop for food and the goods at teh same town? 04:22:36 <Stablean> <Sylf> which town? 04:22:47 <Stablean> <Sylf> I have 3 towns with water drops so far 04:23:01 <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh nice, do they need fgood as well? 04:23:12 <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah 04:23:30 <Stablean> <Big Meech> so the plan is to distrubute the food? 04:24:42 *** Speedy has quit IRC 04:30:22 *** Sturmi has joined #openttdcoop.stable 04:54:02 <Stablean> <Big Meech> moved fpp? 04:54:04 *** Sturmi has quit IRC 04:54:08 <Stablean> <Sylf> yes 05:00:43 <Stablean> <Big Meech> odd place for that 2nd plantation 05:03:57 <Stablean> <Big Meech> does SML run off of a timer? 05:04:15 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I have SML on the brain xD 05:04:29 <Stablean> <Sylf> shifter? 05:04:31 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yeah 05:04:37 <Stablean> <Big Meech> shift main lines 05:04:45 <Stablean> <Sylf> shifters use no timer 05:05:00 <Stablean> <Big Meech> interesting to how it works on setting the trains equidistant apart 05:05:11 <Stablean> <Sylf> that's prozone game 13 05:05:13 <Stablean> <Big Meech> might have to look more at that one prozone game 05:05:15 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yeah 05:05:57 <Stablean> <Sylf> for that to work, you need a straight ML 05:08:56 <Stablean> <Sylf> actually, you need to have more than straight ML for t-sml to work 05:09:18 <Stablean> <Sylf> weight of all trains on the ML needs to be the same 05:09:40 <Stablean> <Sylf> which is okay for most cargo in desert 05:10:02 <Stablean> <Sylf> diamonds and goods are lighter than other cargoes 05:10:02 <Stablean> <Big Meech> could you compensate instead of straight to do curves on the inside lanes to add length? 05:10:14 <Stablean> <Big Meech> like an S=bend 05:10:24 <Stablean> <Sylf> also, all full trains need to travel in the same direction 05:10:46 <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh wow, thats pretty complex 05:10:48 <Stablean> <Sylf> t-sml is EXTREMELY limited use 05:11:10 <Stablean> <Big Meech> do you go about getting the trains the same weight by conditional orders? 05:11:14 <Stablean> <Sylf> it's extremely so, it's downright useless in any situations 05:11:24 <Stablean> <Sylf> no 05:11:46 <Stablean> <Sylf> conditional orders don't know anything about weight of the trains 05:11:53 <Stablean> <Sylf> you either have full or empty trains 05:12:03 <Stablean> <Big Meech> in a sense they could if you knew if 50% of the load was 1000 tons for example 05:12:13 <Stablean> <Sylf> 1t of maize is same weight as 1t of water. that's not a problem. 05:12:44 <Stablean> <Sylf> in any case, it's rather pointless to talk about t-sml 05:12:54 <Stablean> <Big Meech> oke doke :) 05:13:17 <Stablean> <Sylf> you can build one of your own in your own local game 05:13:24 <Stablean> <Sylf> but be warned 05:13:38 <Stablean> <Sylf> if you want to build it from scratch, it'll take a LONG time 05:13:52 <Stablean> <Big Meech> sounds pretty painful 05:13:59 <Stablean> <Sylf> It is. 05:14:02 <Stablean> <Big Meech> i remmeber reading the article 05:14:05 <Stablean> <Big Meech> years in the making 05:14:25 <Stablean> <Sylf> you'll need to start with building a new timer 05:14:36 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 05:14:36 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 05:14:40 <Stablean> <Sylf> that's pain in the ass number one already 05:16:13 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (processing map took too long) 05:16:13 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 05:16:55 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 05:17:44 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :) 05:17:58 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 05:28:36 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I see you completed bridge patrol :D 05:35:55 <Stablean> <Big Meech> want to update to The Mountain? 05:41:50 *** Speedy` has joined #openttdcoop.stable 05:41:57 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 05:52:43 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :) 05:52:49 <Stablean> <Big Meech> anything else you want done tongiht? 06:00:36 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, I was afk 06:00:42 <Stablean> <Big Meech> you was :) 06:00:43 <Stablean> <Sylf> just started the upgrade 06:00:50 <Stablean> <Big Meech> cool 06:01:16 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 06:01:21 <Stablean> <Big Meech> im probany gonna go soon 06:03:15 <Stablean> <Big Meech> looking good so far 06:03:29 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Oh nice, wer'e no. 1 :D 06:03:35 <Stablean> <Big Meech> xD 06:03:43 <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah, no1 in the last place 06:03:53 <Stablean> <Big Meech> aww man, tough competition! 06:04:44 <Stablean> <Big Meech> happy privated me the other day telling me he was no.1 06:04:46 <Stablean> <Big Meech> h\ 06:04:48 <Stablean> <Big Meech> I thought it was cute 06:04:50 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :) 06:05:32 <Stablean> <Big Meech> pretty big map though 06:05:38 <Stablean> <Big Meech> should get lots of players building over eachother :D 06:05:50 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lmaoooooooo 06:07:06 <Stablean> <Big Meech> if i am bored tomorrow just connect more shit? 06:07:19 <Stablean> <Sylf> run goods 06:07:30 <Stablean> <Big Meech> any particulary place you want them? 06:07:40 <Stablean> <Sylf> to all water and food drops 06:08:02 <Stablean> <Big Meech> how should I divide the goods? 1 train to each then go from there? 06:08:16 <Stablean> <Sylf> see how food or water are handled 06:08:19 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Or pick 1, drop 1, pick 1 drop 2 pick 1 drop 3 ? 06:08:28 <V453000> m00000 06:08:29 <Stablean> <Big Meech> ill look now 06:08:39 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 06:08:43 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 06:08:47 <Stablean> <Big Meech> moooomoooo mo! 06:08:49 <V453000> !date 06:08:49 <Stablean> V453000: 11 May 1933 06:08:50 <Sylf> mooooo 06:09:21 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 06:09:21 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 06:09:30 <V453000> go build t-SML Meech :D 06:09:32 <V453000> I want to see 06:09:35 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 06:09:49 <Stablean> <Big Meech> ill just resave prozone game and put my name on it 06:10:05 <V453000> I expected something similarly hideous :D 06:10:55 <Stablean> <Big Meech> my middle name is TSML 06:11:07 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has changed his/her name to BiG_TsMl_MeEcH 06:11:23 <V453000> excellent 06:11:28 <BiG_MeEcH> :D 06:11:32 <V453000> I will try not to call you overflow 06:11:34 <V453000> or boxcar 06:11:44 <BiG_MeEcH> Overflow Meech happens after I use the toilet 06:11:49 <V453000> XD 06:12:07 <V453000> what are you overflowing with at that time? 06:12:20 <BiG_MeEcH> urine and fecal matter 06:12:34 <BiG_MeEcH> when I'm done i become small Meech 06:12:42 <V453000> you are overflowing with urine and fecal matter AFTER you used the toilet? 06:12:58 <V453000> I dont want to know how did you use it 06:13:20 <BiG_MeEcH> my mouth is a reverse toilet 06:13:26 <BiG_MeEcH> food and water go in 06:13:38 <V453000> that I noticed, it apparently transfers to your fingers when typing shit too 06:13:46 <V453000> :> 06:14:05 <BiG_MeEcH> <3 06:14:39 <BiG_MeEcH> well i'm off for now 06:14:40 <BiG_MeEcH> seeya 06:14:44 <V453000> bai 06:14:54 <V453000> I might do some fixing on nuts tonight :) 06:41:07 *** Speedy has quit IRC 07:21:40 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:21:40 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 07:23:08 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has started a new company (#2) 07:23:08 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:23:19 <V453000> hi happy 07:23:21 <V453000> :) 07:23:25 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi v 08:18:18 *** Speedy` has joined #openttdcoop.stable 08:18:25 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 08:48:07 *** Speedy has quit IRC 08:57:33 *** Speedy` has joined #openttdcoop.stable 08:57:43 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 09:05:03 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 09:05:03 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:05:11 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 09:39:55 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:39:57 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 09:40:34 <Stablean> <bon> tropical....hrm..should be interesting 09:42:34 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:42:37 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 09:42:38 <Stablean> <bon> ughh ok that should be interesting...original industries with no poduction boost 09:43:13 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 09:43:16 <Stablean> <bon> heh hi? :) 09:43:39 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 09:43:39 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 09:43:56 <Stablean> <bon> trying figure out where to start...and not somewhere half-bare this time :) 09:47:10 <Stablean> <bon> happy tran you think they left it to be more challenging on purpose? I mean these are a lot of very low productions .. and with no supplies to use 09:48:45 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 09:48:59 <Stablean> <bon> well at least not everything are low amounts which helps me starting out 09:49:03 <Stablean> <bon> :) 09:49:29 <Stablean> <bon> oh and no mountains to worry about this time heh 09:49:52 <Stablean> *** bon has started a new company (#3) 09:49:56 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep and trans ar ver chep 09:50:12 <Stablean> <bon> I'm still going shipping perhaps tho? :) 09:51:02 <Stablean> <bon> ah nope..seem he didn't fix the tug issue yet...oh well I always can lay one rail route for now 09:51:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> dont doo ships look at the ship running cost 09:52:01 <Stablean> <bon> happy tran..I don't mean water ship .. I meant these OTHER one over land :) 09:52:15 <Stablean> <bon> wetrail that is 09:52:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar ok 09:52:31 <Stablean> <bon> np...I'll just use trains till the 1950s then convert to wetrail system 09:54:21 <Stablean> <bon> huh....funny timing 09:54:37 <Stablean> <bon> hmm I see he didn't fix the wagon date .. oh well train alone for 10 year now 09:59:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok i got 150 oil trans nice 10:00:33 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 10:04:59 <Stablean> <bon> at least I guess blue purrail looks a bit like wetrail if not narrower :) 10:05:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 10:05:35 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> and all trans can werk on it 10:05:47 <Stablean> <bon> heh ships would look better with the wider wetrail tho :) 10:16:15 <V453000> it gets a bit ugly/problematic with all the curves, bridges, etc 10:16:21 <V453000> to make them larger 10:16:39 <Stablean> <bon> I don't need it large for the boats..they're not even fast enough eh? :) 10:16:41 <Stablean> <bon> and btw hi :) 10:17:06 <V453000> what else would you have wider wetrail for :D 10:17:22 <Stablean> <bon> very funny..I meant its wide compared to purrail in term of water :P 10:17:41 <V453000> probably. :) 10:18:05 <Stablean> <bon> btw I'm not minding starting with some steam trains for a few years now but...the Waterproof ship has nothing else to haul than its one single barge again 10:19:30 <V453000> yes it is a bug I need to fix 10:19:53 <Stablean> <bon> np...like I told happy tran I'll start with a few trains now..and when the 1950s rolls around I'm going covert over :) 10:20:32 <V453000> aye 10:22:46 <Stablean> <Player> and hy 10:23:04 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi player 10:23:15 <Stablean> <Player> asdf 10:23:18 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to V453000 10:23:22 <Stablean> <bon> heh :) 10:23:44 <Stablean> <bon> hi there nutty creator? 10:23:44 <Stablean> <bon> hehehe 10:23:54 <Stablean> <V453000> no totally nowhere :) 10:24:00 <Stablean> <bon> :P 10:24:46 <Stablean> <bon> oh yeah v453000 this time I'm actually trying to make a network and so far its working out nicely :) 10:24:54 <Stablean> <bon> none of the many isolated loops I was having before 10:25:00 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 10:26:38 <Stablean> <V453000> get your loan btw 10:26:41 <Stablean> <V453000> cant make money without investments :P 10:26:48 <Stablean> <V453000> and the interest rate is so low that you dont need to care about it 10:26:50 <Stablean> <bon> you're funny heh 10:27:16 <Stablean> <bon> I prefer to keep the loan low...plain habit :P 10:27:22 <Stablean> <V453000> rather stupid habit 10:27:37 <Stablean> <V453000> -1000 yearly is like 1 purr tile 10:27:48 <Stablean> <bon> well I play with 4% a lot so its what I'm used to..to our own 10:28:00 <Stablean> <V453000> 4% is nothing too 10:28:14 <Stablean> <bon> well it does add up when you're on short operating profit flow tho 10:28:24 <Stablean> <bon> but like I said..to our own habits :) 10:28:30 <Stablean> <V453000> why should you be on short operating profit if you have 500 000 for more trains :) 10:28:44 <Stablean> <bon> because the loan would cut into it 10:29:12 <Stablean> <V453000> sure but the new trains will make 10000 times more money than the loan loss 10:29:14 <Stablean> <bon> anyway...more things to lay yet brb 10:29:36 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:32:16 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#4) 10:32:20 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 10:32:41 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#5) 10:34:16 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 10:44:44 <Stablean> <bon> know what..to heck with it..I'll have to play with the silly rail locomotives instead for now 10:47:34 <V453000> there will be new fixed version of nuts next game :) 10:47:50 <Stablean> <bon> heh ok? :) 10:50:41 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 10:51:15 <Stablean> <bon> I always could make two shared networks...one for rail and one for ship .. but we'll wait and see ;) 10:52:38 <V453000> why, you can easily autoreplace to ships after wagons are available, 10:52:38 <V453000> ? 10:52:44 <V453000> !date 10:52:44 <Stablean> V453000: 22 Dec 1945 10:52:54 <V453000> which will be in less than ~2 hours 10:53:08 <Stablean> <bon> v453000 well I'm thinking more like rails to deal with the long distance stuf but ships just for variety fun in smaller areas :) 10:53:19 <Stablean> <bon> we'll see soon 10:53:26 <V453000> aye 10:53:58 <Stablean> <bon> and which of where did you come up with the idea for the coloured single rails? :) 10:54:36 <Stablean> <bon> i'm using three colours now already heh 10:54:51 <Stablean> <bon> not sure what green could be for so may not use that one yet :) 10:55:33 <V453000> simple, I often used different rails to mark things like waiting spaces for trains 10:55:39 <V453000> with universal rail I started using that 10:55:49 <V453000> and with purr, as only colour changes it is more obvious, and a lot nicer 10:55:51 <Stablean> <bon> waiting space? hmm not sure I could really use that but I'll consider it 10:56:06 <V453000> also many people complain about maglev being ugly, there they always have an alternative 10:56:13 <Stablean> <bon> right now I have yellow for the 'mainline' .. blue for everything else .. and red for one single non-traffic loop 10:56:26 <V453000> bon join our IRC then I could send you links to our wiki for example images :) 10:56:39 <Stablean> <bon> what server? 10:56:47 <V453000> oftc 10:56:57 <V453000> go to openttdcoop.org and there is IRC button at the top 10:56:58 <V453000> for example 10:57:47 <Stablean> <bon> oh nice..didn't know there was a qwebirc server for oftc too 10:58:13 <Stablean> <bon> slight small window but heh for now I guess thats ok :) 11:01:07 <Stablean> <bon> oh think I know...green could be only for pax .. different speed :) 11:01:34 <V453000> up to you :) there really are many ways how to use the colours 11:01:37 <Stablean> <bon> :P 11:01:47 <Stablean> <bon> whats cleanpurr tho? 11:02:13 *** bon has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:02:37 <bon> so this is where you talk to me from sometimes v453000? :) 11:02:46 <bon> heh apparently so 11:03:31 <V453000> yes, most of the time in fact 11:03:54 <V453000> btw if you write V and press tab, it will finish the name so you dont need to write the numbers etc 11:04:08 <V453000> works in openttd too but only when the client name you want to write is connected 11:05:51 *** Djanx has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:06:07 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 11:07:55 <bon> what made you think of the 'superstrong' class or it just came up naturally? 11:08:15 <bon> (I'll admit the superstrong electric actually resembles one particular real locomotive I like) 11:09:50 <V453000> nothing really, I just wanted trains which would be useful for long trains with short curves and great power 11:09:59 <bon> heh hmm thats true 11:10:11 <V453000> none of the nuts trains is even inspired by any real trains at all 11:10:28 <bon> still aside to curved hoods this does come similar even if that was not intentionally like you said: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/MILW_EP-2.jpg 11:10:50 <V453000> ah, pretty much 11:11:13 <V453000> but yeah as I said :) obviously it is made similar to something like that to make it look like a train, but other than that not really :) 11:11:20 <bon> heh yeah :) 11:11:41 <V453000> hm that one is actually very similar indeed :D 11:12:05 <V453000> but I guess there were many "similar kind" trains like that? 11:12:17 <bon> yeah could be something in europe too but I don't know much from over there :P 11:12:32 <V453000> hm :) 11:13:07 <bon> actually hmm there is something you might find interesting..one moment :) 11:13:34 <V453000> anyway, the process of creating trains for nuts generally is 1. functional idea - inventing what the train will be useful for, why add it, what stats or special mechanics would work to make it useful for the role it is given, and after that comes 2. which is trying to give it some look 11:14:16 <V453000> so as drawing is n2, it can get inspired but at the same time has no real reason to :) 11:14:18 <bon> this shows that you can indeed have a streamlined tank: http://www.dbtrains.com/en/locomotives/epochII/BR61 11:14:19 <Webster> Title: BR 61 (at www.dbtrains.com) 11:14:37 <bon> it pretty much resembles a lot of the earlier locos in the buy list :P 11:14:47 <V453000> hm :) 11:15:08 <bon> its interesting one tho...normally streamlined locos have tenders for long runs 11:15:33 <V453000> I dont even know what streamlined means, so ... I might not be the best person to talk about real locomotives to 11:16:00 <bon> heh np... 'streamlined' is as in extra clads to cut down wind resistance 11:16:10 <V453000> right 11:16:31 <bon> anyway...you still drawing new things for NUTS or its more of patching at the moment? 11:17:44 <V453000> now I will fix the bugs and add one more functional feature to the ships - a thing I forgot earlier which is quite essential to make them even better with refit. Then I already have invented a MASSIVELY revolutionary concept for new train class, so I am going to draw/code those afterwards 11:18:00 <bon> heh...sounds like you'll give some people too much fun :) 11:18:03 <V453000> drawing trains and coding them, I take that as one process even if I do one or the other thing earlier or later 11:18:29 <bon> mm I'm somewhat the same...have an old project I'm still slowly getting around to 11:18:55 <V453000> difference could be I invest a lot of time nuts, and often :P 11:19:05 <Stablean> <bon> :P 11:19:22 <V453000> but yeah the new trains are going to be absolutely awesome 11:19:30 <V453000> I can say that already 11:22:15 <V453000> problematic part is that making them look awesome requires drawing a full set of wagons again :D 11:22:28 <V453000> which is the biggest job always 11:22:46 <bon> you know whats funny? you're a lifesaver to me even if you didn't know it actually ;) 11:22:48 <V453000> many cargoes, loading stages, extra cargoes for randomization (typically see goods) 11:23:09 <V453000> lifesaver? :D 11:23:25 <bon> yeah I never ever thought of a single universal wagon to refit for several cargos 11:23:41 <bon> saves me some space in the tracking table of mine after I revised it with that idea instead :) 11:24:05 <V453000> yarr 11:24:20 <V453000> universal wagons are awesome, especially for the refit game possibilities 11:25:07 <V453000> which project are working on anyway 11:28:35 <bon> I'm helping with the table with someone else..its a bit like a generic narrow gauge railway set .. based after existing locomotives but nothing of specific nature 11:31:50 <bon> I still wonder how you managed to make up a lot of funny locomotive names but....maybe I don't actually want to know :P 11:33:33 <V453000> simple 11:33:37 <V453000> I listen to a lot of music 11:33:43 <Stablean> <bon> heh :) 11:33:45 <V453000> so, song names :) 11:34:03 <V453000> srsly who would come up with idk, 120? names 11:34:11 <Stablean> <bon> you? 11:34:36 <V453000> no not really :) I do adapt the song/album/artist names often, but some inspiration/core is always a song name 11:34:54 <V453000> easy to do and when I try to find some which actually fit, it works pretty well I think :) 11:35:12 <V453000> as the trains are set in classes, people generally describe trains not by their name, but by their class 11:35:22 <V453000> e.g. they say I replaced rail fast to monorail medium 11:35:31 <V453000> not banshee to I choose noise 11:36:04 <V453000> so the train names arent really somehow technically important :) 11:36:29 <V453000> just having trains called MonoMedium1, MonoMedium2, MonoMedium3 etc is no fun :) those numbers are added in the purchase menu just for info anyway 11:36:36 <V453000> what matters is the class 11:36:42 <Stablean> <bon> :P again 11:36:53 <V453000> what again :D 11:37:01 <Stablean> <bon> hehhe 11:40:47 <Stablean> *** Djanxy joined the game 11:40:50 <Stablean> <bon> hi again djanxy :) 11:40:58 <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi ;) 11:41:09 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 11:41:22 <Stablean> <Djanxy> of to work in a bit, just checking out new map 11:41:32 <Stablean> <bon> mm well its a lot flatter...but... :-( to no firs 11:41:34 <Stablean> <bon> heh 11:41:52 <V453000> http://www.rouming.cz/roumingShow.php?file=curiosity.png XD 11:41:53 <Webster> Title: Roumenลฏv Rouming - Zรกbavnรฉ a zajรญmavรฉ obrรกzky - curiosity (at www.rouming.cz) 11:44:02 <Stablean> <bon> I still have to figure out a company name heh :-> 11:48:52 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has started a new company (#4) 11:49:20 <Stablean> <bon> yeah get something in and by the time you finish work you'll have more fund to actually start playing with? :P 11:49:31 <Stablean> <Djanxy> exactly :D 11:49:34 <Stablean> <Djanxy> gotta hurry :D 11:53:25 <Stablean> <bon> oh I know... 11:53:40 <Stablean> <bon> there...me funny :) 11:53:56 *** underclass has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:54:31 <Stablean> <Djanxy> alright, that should do :D 11:54:34 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has joined spectators 11:55:56 <bon> v453000 I know you're probably not the one to ask (or are you?) but theres no problem in jumping over someone else's rails to get to an unused swatch on other side? 11:56:26 <V453000> swatch = industry? 11:56:36 <bon> area actually 11:56:41 <bon> but yeah..industries 11:56:43 <V453000> well, it always depends 11:57:09 <V453000> leave others space, it should not happen that two companies meet in spots where their network could be hurt by it 11:57:22 <Stablean> <bon> mm thanks 11:57:31 <V453000> it is a bit hard to make rules for this 11:57:50 <Stablean> <bon> I know what you mean I think..I've had some moments where I find a bridge is only 1 not 2 track wide etc 11:57:59 <V453000> best case is to ask the other company obviously, I personally simply build away from everyone, that solves all issues of similar kind perfectly 11:58:06 <Stablean> <bon> heh 11:58:16 <Stablean> <bon> well hopefully shouldn't be hard to find sylf later on today 11:59:33 <V453000> just try to go aroudn if you can, if you cant, then check if the rails are massively important to him (main line / big station vs. small primary etc.) 12:00:31 <Stablean> <bon> whats strange is theres no lumber mill anywhere on the map 12:00:36 <Stablean> <bon> at least funding cost is cheap heh 12:01:26 <V453000> those are generally hated 12:01:34 <V453000> low production and stupid cutting of trees 12:01:54 <V453000> any company can sabotage it by killing the trees too 12:02:12 <Stablean> <bon> well at least on this server theres almost no stupid players tho? :) 12:02:46 <Stablean> <bon> but mm yeah I think FIRS had a better compromise than the original one... 12:03:00 *** Speedy has quit IRC 12:03:16 <Stablean> <bon> the sawmill may cut down trees but if you feed it from the forestry thing it can still keep producing even without any trees 12:03:56 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 12:04:09 <Stablean> <bon> wb happy tran? 12:04:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 12:04:39 <V453000> solution, dont use the sawmills :P 12:04:49 <V453000> there is plenty other cargo to transport anyway 12:04:53 <Stablean> <bon> very funny..you actually need it to be able to get 'wood product' :P 12:05:05 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:05:12 <V453000> there isnt any wood product that you "need" 12:05:34 <Stablean> <bon> v453000 you haven't looked at a FIRS chain so maybe lets just forget that topic ;) 12:06:20 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 12:06:22 <V453000> I know firs chain by memory :) I thought you were talking about the current game, why would you talk about firs :d 12:06:30 <Stablean> <bon> happy tran nice big oil/good loop you have btw 12:06:48 <Stablean> <bon> I'm waiting for a city that can accept goods too :-s 12:06:50 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 12:07:40 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok i got the ml 2 way going short ov but 12:09:08 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 12:09:10 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heen i nned to fixs at my sign is 12:09:21 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi jam35 12:09:35 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi happy tran sport 12:09:45 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things 12:09:56 <Stablean> <bon> hmm what you mean by 'fix'? 12:09:58 <Stablean> <Jam35> very well thank you 12:10:04 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good 12:10:04 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has joined company #4 12:10:04 <Stablean> <Jam35> :) 12:10:08 <Stablean> <Jam35> how are you? 12:10:10 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has joined spectators 12:10:34 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has left the game (general timeout) 12:10:34 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has left the game (connection lost) 12:11:03 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> jam i nned your help i nned to finsh of my 2 ml but i need suume help to doo a slh 12:11:24 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 12:12:18 <V453000> hy Jam35 12:12:46 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi V45... 12:13:34 <Stablean> <Jam35> happy you need 2 or 3 SL's I would say 12:13:40 <Stablean> <Jam35> SLH's 12:13:51 <Stablean> <bon> geeze.. 0/yr running cost....silly trams 12:13:57 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep lloks like it 12:14:01 <Stablean> <Jam35> are you going to start other cargoes? 12:14:23 <Stablean> <bon> at l east I hope this particular town can grow on its own but we'll see soon 12:14:30 <Stablean> <bon> ah yep it is...great :) 12:14:36 *** Speedy` has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:14:36 <Stablean> <Jam35> do the hub(s) need all lines 12:14:38 <Stablean> <Jam35> ? 12:14:50 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #2 12:14:52 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 12:14:56 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i can not doo the goods in til the slh ar dun 12:15:23 <Stablean> <Jam35> but will you start other cargoes? 12:15:33 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yes 12:15:47 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i will 12:15:47 <Stablean> <Jam35> so it would be better to do all connections 12:16:05 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 12:17:41 <Stablean> <bon> btw I'm just asking but theres no way to separate trains down two different parallel lines without use of waypoint? (re lack of advanced signals in ottd) 12:17:47 *** Djanx has quit IRC 12:34:24 <Stablean> *** Delusion joined the game 12:34:36 <Stablean> <bon> heh hi delusion :) 12:34:54 <Stablean> <Delusion> hi 12:43:07 <Stablean> <Jam35> oh :) 12:43:13 <Stablean> <Jam35> wondered why the jam? 12:43:23 <Stablean> <bon> why? :) 12:44:41 <Stablean> <bon> oh ops...thats a long jam 12:45:31 <Stablean> <bon> I'll admit I'm starting to get a bit heavy on my mainline now...maybe a few more trains before I need to reconsider 12:45:37 <Stablean> <bon> but who knows yet 12:47:08 <V453000> more trains is always the right option 12:47:23 <Stablean> <bon> or longer ones :P 12:47:25 <V453000> until there is not enough tracks 12:47:44 <Stablean> <bon> I'll admit you for one clever thing tho... 12:47:54 <Stablean> <bon> ships are slower but can carry more per car than the trains do 12:47:58 <Stablean> <bon> thats what I keep thinking about now heh 12:49:08 <Stablean> <bon> I may still try convert the entire sheebang to wetrail soon .. but will wait and see 12:50:02 <Stablean> <bon> v435000 so you said the wet vehicles could go on non-wetrail .. just they're reduced in speed? 12:53:46 <V453000> in all 3 main stats 12:53:50 <V453000> speed, power, tractive effort 12:53:54 <V453000> by 30% 12:54:08 <Stablean> <bon> ah ok well at least its a conventional way to upgrade vehicles first then rail second .. can't do both at once :) 12:54:18 <Stablean> <bon> thanks for that ;) 12:54:42 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 12:54:42 <V453000> sure, well that is what universal rails are for, I just wanted to discourage usage of ships on normal universal tracks 12:54:57 <Stablean> <bon> yeah I can see where you're going...allow it but "not like it" ;) 12:55:59 <V453000> disallowing autoreplacing through universal rail is not an option, so yeah :) 12:56:10 <Stablean> <bon> :P 12:56:20 <Stablean> <bon> so..whens the 2nd tug boat coming out damn it??? ;) 12:56:22 <Stablean> <bon> heheheh 12:56:30 <V453000> after all, if the player likes to use ships on normal tracks, meh it is just visual and if he likes it .... doesnt matter to me 12:56:36 <V453000> but it just seems to make sense to discourage it 12:56:44 <V453000> hm idk, 1970? 12:56:55 <Stablean> <bon> heh I guess I'll wait a bit then :) 12:57:04 <V453000> I think it is 1940 first, 1955 first large one, 1970 second tug 12:57:06 <V453000> !date 12:57:06 <Stablean> V453000: 4 Feb 1955 12:57:08 <Stablean> <bon> btw the universal rails...theres no reductions on the other locomotives or is there? 12:57:16 <V453000> no no reason for that 12:57:29 <Stablean> <bon> ah so its just the ship that have a handicap in the entire buy list? 12:58:51 <Stablean> <bon> still need to try these INTERCITY class l ocomotives someday tho :) 12:59:46 <V453000> yes, only ships do that 13:00:46 <V453000> intercity trains are great, but you just have to transport passengers or some of the express cargoes (mail/gold/valuables/diamonds) 13:01:07 <V453000> I already gave you a link to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/wiki didnt I 13:05:52 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 13:07:17 <Stablean> <bon> *thinks I have itchy fingers waiting for that boat to come out* 13:07:23 <Stablean> <bon> heh 13:07:46 <V453000> :) I also always look forward to the new engines to come out 13:07:55 <Stablean> <bon> well I'm waiting to mass-convert :P 13:07:58 <Stablean> <bon> hehehe 13:18:33 <Stablean> *** Delusion has left the game (general timeout) 13:18:33 <Stablean> *** Delusion has left the game (connection lost) 13:18:54 <Stablean> <bon> hmmm to trust a town with barely enough buildings for goods or not....that is the question :-s 13:19:33 <V453000> fund some or make a few bus stations to make it grow :) 13:20:25 <Stablean> <bon> oic...too cheap...mmm good point :) 13:29:03 *** underclass has quit IRC 13:39:15 <Stablean> <bon> yeah town growing a bit now :) 13:55:52 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 13:55:56 <Stablean> <Jam35> biab 13:56:04 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 13:56:37 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #2 13:56:54 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 13:57:26 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #2 13:58:15 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 13:58:21 <Stablean> <bon> wheres that dern ship yet :) heh 13:59:48 <Stablean> <Player> hello. and sorry for asking stupid questions. (i played singelplayer only sofar) what does SLH mean? 13:59:58 <Stablean> <Jam35> Sideline Hub 14:01:31 <Jam35> and if you like that stuff you should check www.openttdcoop.org 14:02:39 <Stablean> <Player> found your wiki. all is good now 14:02:51 <Jam35> :) 14:03:01 <Jam35> afk now... 14:03:23 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok thanks for your help jaam 14:07:37 <Stablean> <bon> looks like maybe I don't need to bother with rail hopping but mm we'll just see in future 14:12:31 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 14:12:58 <Stablean> *** Fehlersturm joined the game 14:22:19 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 14:33:03 <Stablean> <bon> heh Brickwalker is a bit amusing to say the least 14:34:26 <Stablean> <bon> may as well as try it somewhere 14:40:07 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#5) 14:40:15 <Stablean> <bon> hi Player 14:40:26 <Stablean> <Player> hey 14:40:29 <Stablean> <Player> forgot to set name x] 14:40:33 <Stablean> <bon> heh 14:40:36 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 14:40:58 <Stablean> *** bananinhao joined the game 14:41:02 <Stablean> <bon> btw have fun here and don't mind my station names...just waiting to replace bluepurr with wetrail when the newer ship comes out :) 14:41:28 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #2 14:41:32 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 14:41:34 <Stablean> <bon> wb jam 14:41:36 <Stablean> <Jam35> ty 14:41:39 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 14:41:55 <Stablean> <bon> jam...I'm not sure if its just me or these silly Brickwalker actually make smoke like a steam locomotive? :-> 14:42:17 <Stablean> <bon> seem weird for a monorail vehicle to go chug chug :) 14:42:35 <Stablean> <bon> you can see it with train 41 atm 14:42:41 <Stablean> <bon> (my train 41 that is) 14:45:48 <Stablean> <bon> banananihao thats not too bad..just don't forget that you also can use the drive-thru bus stops instead next time...doesn't take up a whole tile space 14:46:30 <Stablean> <bananinhao> hmmm forgot about those 14:46:36 <Stablean> <bon> heh np 14:46:39 <Stablean> <bananinhao> heh 14:46:50 <Stablean> <bon> you going use the very fast steam-looking loco or something? :P 14:47:01 <Stablean> <bon> ah...heh you're faster than me :) 14:47:32 <Stablean> <bananinhao> Idk, I think I'll try passenger only 14:47:54 <Stablean> <bon> mmm have fun with that and btw don't forget that the trams/buses costs almost nothing to run on this map 14:48:04 <Stablean> <bon> I already have one small town with 3 trams if you want look at it anyway 14:48:06 <Stablean> <bananinhao> yea I just noticed the costs 14:48:20 <Stablean> <bon> yeah this map is pretty much about network...not about trying to fund things :P 14:49:04 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 14:50:00 <Stablean> <bon> oh and yeah don't mind if I talk a lot sometimes when I'm online :) 14:53:16 <Stablean> *** meek has started a new company (#6) 14:53:19 <Stablean> *** meek joined the game 14:55:04 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 14:59:19 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:59:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Maraxus 15:05:06 <Stablean> *** Maraxus joined the game 15:06:47 *** bon has left #openttdcoop.stable 15:08:33 <Stablean> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 15:08:50 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 15:18:01 <Stablean> *** Fehlersturm has left the game (leaving) 15:21:41 <Stablean> *** meek has left the game (leaving) 15:28:38 <Stablean> <bon> green - can I just make a suggestion? 15:31:39 *** Sturmi has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:32:38 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7) 15:32:42 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 15:32:58 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 15:45:21 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7) 15:45:25 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 15:48:29 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 15:52:54 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 15:54:09 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 15:54:11 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#7) 15:54:20 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #2 15:59:10 <Stablean> <bon> you sure are busy aren't you jam? :) 15:59:52 <Stablean> <bon> anyway still no ships yet but I need to go for lunch etc tho so .. might be back in a few hours :-s 16:00:03 <Stablean> <bon> seem to be more fun now tho (abit...missing FIRS) 16:00:09 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 16:13:30 <Stablean> <Jam35> start the food!!! 16:13:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok dun that 16:36:56 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok the goods drop of is redey 16:46:01 <BiG_MeEcH> WooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooOOOOOooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 16:46:32 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 16:46:50 <Stablean> <BiG_TsMl_MeEcH> hey :) 16:47:00 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things 16:47:18 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi BtM 17:00:33 <Stablean> <BiG_TsMl_MeEcH> yo :D 17:00:35 <Stablean> <BiG_TsMl_MeEcH> Im good! 17:00:43 <Stablean> *** BiG_TsMl_MeEcH has changed his/her name to BiG_SrNw_MeEcH 17:04:43 <Stablean> *** BiG_SrNw_MeEcH has left the game (general timeout) 17:04:43 <Stablean> *** BiG_SrNw_MeEcH has left the game (connection lost) 17:11:13 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 17:17:30 <Stablean> <bananinhao> damn i didnt know there was a bus limit 17:31:38 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 17:31:50 <Stablean> <V453000> heyoo 17:36:48 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 17:40:53 <Stablean> *** bananinhao has left the game (leaving) 17:40:53 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:47:46 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #2 17:47:46 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:00:40 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 18:10:13 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:10:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Maraxus 18:21:54 <Stablean> *** Muel joined the game 18:21:58 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 18:22:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 18:22:04 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 18:22:59 <Stablean> *** Muel has joined company #6 18:24:07 <Stablean> <Jam35> tks 18:24:13 <Stablean> <Muel> :) 18:24:15 <Stablean> *** Muel has joined spectators 18:27:15 <Stablean> <Jam35> ty :) 18:27:25 <Stablean> <Jam35> happy did it 18:27:35 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 18:27:42 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> looks grate 18:29:16 <Stablean> <Muel> yea ... good jobs :) 18:29:38 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 18:32:01 <Stablean> <V453000> heyo 18:32:11 <Stablean> <Muel> hey 18:32:14 <Stablean> <Jam35> elo 18:32:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 18:32:48 <Stablean> <Muel> ok i go look bayern - manchester :) 18:33:10 <Stablean> <Jam35> k cya 18:33:24 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (leaving) 18:35:56 <Stablean> <V453000> Jam35 you had wrong orders on the PS, all SLH connections are necessary 18:36:46 <Jam35> didn't make any trains 18:36:50 <Jam35> you mean SLH 18:37:26 <Jam35> so paper goes back to the SL? 18:38:01 <Jam35> not the nearest 'main' drop to the SL 18:38:45 <V453000> nearest drop to the SL is the one you have missing connection to? 18:39:12 <Jam35> so the paper goes back to SL? 18:39:20 <Jam35> all SL's have printing works? 18:40:43 <Stablean> <V453000> what 18:40:57 <Stablean> <V453000> paper goes to the closest drop to the SL 18:40:59 <Stablean> <V453000> -> in your case 00 18:41:02 <Stablean> <V453000> what is unclear 18:41:09 <Stablean> <V453000> there the train gets goods and then goes with them to the SL 18:41:27 <Jam35> how does paper get in the SL 18:41:27 <Jam35> ? 18:41:33 <Stablean> <V453000> I am done 18:41:36 <Jam35> wood -> far drop 18:41:41 <Jam35> refit paper 18:41:56 <Stablean> <V453000> load paper 18:41:58 <Stablean> <V453000> go to nearest drop 18:42:00 <Stablean> <V453000> drop paper 18:42:04 <Stablean> <V453000> pickup goods 18:42:06 <Stablean> <V453000> go to SL 18:59:50 <Stablean> <thepower12n> nice network red;p 19:02:06 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 19:08:01 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 19:08:09 <Stablean> <bon> boy heh.. 20 years to catch up with now 19:09:20 <Stablean> <bon> mm does anyone know if wetrail is only for ships alone? 19:10:23 <V453000> it is 19:10:46 <Stablean> <bon> right....convert purr to universal .. autreplace ships.. then convert again to wetrail....ehhhh :) 19:11:53 <Stablean> <bon> how're you anyway? 19:13:19 <Stablean> <V453000> purr is universal 19:13:26 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 19:13:38 <Stablean> <V453000> im coding some total wtf, confused 19:13:40 <Stablean> <bon> ohhh ok...sorry..wasn't thinking for a sec..thanks 19:13:47 <Stablean> <bon> that makes job a bit easier 19:14:29 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 19:14:51 <Stablean> <bon> v453000 btw the Brickwalker .. where did you get the idea that a little monorail box can go choo choo? 19:14:53 <Stablean> <bon> :P 19:15:04 <Stablean> <bon> I'm surprised that the Soilwork now doesn't smoke as well ;) 19:15:18 <Stablean> <V453000> early trains = smoke viable :) also smoke = awesome 19:15:22 <Stablean> <bon> :P 19:15:36 <Stablean> <bon> I'm just slowly working autoreplace for different networks now .. fun 19:17:42 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 19:20:44 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 19:22:09 <Stablean> <bon> hey v453000 a question for you tho... when does the 99kph tug come out? the wiki tables all are old copies atm 19:22:35 <Stablean> <V453000> something around 2010 I believe 19:22:38 <Stablean> <bon> ah 19:22:48 <Stablean> <bon> guess I'll be ok with 85kph for now then :) 19:22:55 <Stablean> <V453000> 1990 19:23:17 <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt matter when you replace, does it 19:23:35 <Stablean> <bon> nah...was just curious about speed...but I can always replace 4 slow with 3 faster in the future right? ;) 19:23:45 <Stablean> <bon> anyway time to cause a bit of network-wide jam :D 19:24:19 <Stablean> <bon> hmmm I'm just thinking... 19:24:35 <Stablean> <bon> would 'car removal' count the barge included with the tug or is everything going to be half a tile too long :-s 19:25:29 <Stablean> <V453000> the first barge is included in the engine so teh whole engine is 1 tile long in total 19:25:39 <Stablean> <V453000> so yes you will need to remove one wagon at this point 19:25:55 <Stablean> <bon> I sometimes wonder why they include that little button when its not helping :-p 19:26:05 <Stablean> <bon> oh well 19:27:29 <Stablean> *** iTKerry joined the game 19:27:45 <Stablean> <iTKerry> Hello 19:27:51 <Stablean> <bon> just whats 'car removal' supposed to do assuming any grfs uses that? 19:27:54 <Stablean> <bon> hi itkerry 19:28:05 <Stablean> <V453000> what do you mean? 19:28:27 <Stablean> <bon> v453000 .. in autoreplace window.. lower-right corner it says 'Car removal: Off' but it can be toggled 19:28:30 <Stablean> <V453000> even the default train set has both options 19:28:32 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 19:32:20 <Stablean> <bon> oh hmm v453000...I did a quick test with something else in the depot.... turns out I maybe talk too much with little action ... 19:32:51 <Stablean> <bon> 'car removal' does recognize the extra length of the barge ... 4.0 long train got replaced with a 4.0 long tug boat 19:33:00 <Stablean> <bon> thats a bit of a relief tho thankfully 19:33:37 <Stablean> <bon> time to start some mayhem now :) 19:33:44 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 19:35:27 <Stablean> <bon> going take a while to convert everything before I can convert the tracks .. going be slow "jams" everywhere now :) 19:36:17 <Stablean> <bon> v453000 just a quick question tho.. is 'loading speed' supposed to be better or worser at a lower number? 19:36:28 <Stablean> <V453000> its speed 19:36:46 <Stablean> <V453000> -> more, faster loading 19:36:58 <Stablean> <bon> oh ok...going from 6 to 5 but ehh thats probably fine with me :) 19:38:48 <Stablean> <bon> zzzzz 19:39:10 <Stablean> <V453000> depends 19:39:20 <Stablean> <V453000> from 6 to 5 but also capacity from 30 to 45 19:39:27 <Stablean> <bon> *waits for the locos go away* 19:39:29 <Stablean> <V453000> so from 5 loading stages to 9 19:39:43 <Stablean> <V453000> also barges dont have 5 but 20 19:39:45 <Stablean> <V453000> and capacity of 40 19:40:33 <Stablean> <bon> 9 locos left :-s 19:43:27 <Stablean> <bon> huh.. autoreplace says 'no suitable track' :/ 19:44:21 <Stablean> <V453000> there is some weird coexistence of basecosts and the tracks 19:44:27 <Stablean> <bon> v453000 looks like you can't convert either purr or universal to wetrail 19:44:30 <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#7) 19:44:54 <Stablean> <V453000> omfg indeed not at all 19:44:56 <Stablean> <V453000> yeah 19:44:59 <Stablean> <V453000> well hm 19:45:05 <Stablean> <V453000> sec 19:45:08 <Stablean> <V453000> I will move with basecosts 19:45:16 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 19:46:40 <V453000> OH I found the issue 19:46:41 <V453000> excellent 19:46:56 <Stablean> <bon> do I have to forgo wetrail or what? :) 19:47:58 <V453000> no, I will reload from save in a minute 19:47:59 <V453000> !getsave https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/V453000%20Transport%2C%201984-07-31.sav 19:48:02 <V453000> actually in a second :P 19:48:03 <Stablean> V453000: OK :-) 19:48:06 <V453000> !rcon load 2 19:48:12 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:48:20 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 19:48:26 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 19:48:32 <Stablean> *** iTKerry joined the game 19:48:34 <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #3 19:48:36 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 19:48:43 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 19:49:05 <V453000> !auto 19:49:05 <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 19:49:07 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (manual) 19:49:11 <Stablean> <V453000> try now :) 19:49:13 <Stablean> <bon> yaaa.... thanks :P 19:49:19 <Stablean> <V453000> yw 19:49:29 <Stablean> <bon> weird how that happened tho 19:49:35 <Stablean> <bon> and to everyone else: sorry for the little "boot" 19:49:49 <Stablean> <V453000> it is a strange openttd bug 19:49:55 <Stablean> <bon> mm 19:49:57 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:50:02 <Stablean> <bon> well 5 locos left before I can do a 100% conversion :) 19:50:08 <Stablean> <V453000> when basecosts are set to free costs, track conversion fails because it checks for price of conversion 19:50:14 <Stablean> <bon> ah 19:50:18 <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#8) 19:50:31 <Stablean> <bon> well its still cheap atm so thats all 19:51:22 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 19:51:34 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi troy 19:51:48 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi happy 19:51:52 <Stablean> <bon> hi troy again? :) 19:51:58 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 19:52:02 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> y 19:52:09 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 19:52:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things 19:52:19 <Stablean> <V453000> hi hi 19:52:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay 19:52:48 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how are you? 19:53:07 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 19:53:34 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good 19:54:26 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #2 19:54:42 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 20:00:47 <Stablean> <bon> 95% now....fun heh 20:04:33 <Stablean> <bon> and done :p 20:04:43 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 20:04:58 <Stablean> <bon> going wait a bit for traffics to spread back out and see if I need more or less at any particular stations ;) 20:07:09 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 20:09:13 <Stablean> <bon> v453000 just as I'm suspecting... slower but can carry more in same consist length .. may not even have to change anything else...fun as usual :) 20:09:36 <V453000> :รบ 20:10:01 <Stablean> <bon> so now I have 2 rails ... single rail aka monorail .. water ... and a bit of tram 20:10:04 <Stablean> <bon> what else next? :P hehehe 20:14:32 <Stablean> <bon> huh...good grief heh .. I just now noticed you converted everything to monorails happy tran :P 20:14:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yellow purr 20:15:23 <Stablean> <bon> I also didn't know that the speed reduction stopped after the 2nd wagon 20:15:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> speed reduction? 20:15:48 <Stablean> <bon> troy..yeah it gets slower after adding first and second wagon 20:15:54 <Stablean> <bon> didn't know there was no more at third wagon 20:16:16 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you're sure not talking about curve lengths and max speeds? 20:17:52 <Stablean> <bon> mm no it said 'loses 3*2km/h...per added train unit' .. just did not realized that was only up to a certain number 20:20:25 <Stablean> <bon> either way these monorails short or long are rather interesting to play with 20:20:33 <Stablean> <bon> I have them for short shorty hops atm 20:26:07 <Stablean> *** iTKerry has left the game (leaving) 20:31:28 <Stablean> <bon> v453000 how does "Vortex Hole" sound for a certain locomotive name perhaps? 20:31:43 <V453000> no why 20:31:53 <Stablean> <bon> oh...just thinking :-> 20:31:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> lol 20:36:11 <Stablean> <bon> I still think about what I mentioned in an earlier game.... 20:36:29 <Stablean> <bon> Land Of Confusion = captain running ship in random directions with no idea where to go :) 20:36:35 <Stablean> <bon> kinda silly tho eh? 20:36:42 <Stablean> <bon> hehe 20:37:20 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #2 20:37:24 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi ag 20:37:34 <Stablean> <bon> wb jam 20:38:49 <Stablean> <bon> troy I'm just curious anyway...whats the meaning of certain station names they use on the coop maps? I mean the ones that seem to be made up of letter symbols 20:39:03 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> like? 20:39:05 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> SLH02? 20:39:07 <Stablean> <bon> yeah 20:39:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's not a station name, but a sign 20:39:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and it stands for Side Line Hub 20:39:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> BBH = Back Bone Hub 20:39:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and MSH = Major Station Hub 20:40:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it is usefull for determining the hierarchy of the network 20:40:15 <Stablean> <Jam35> *Troy 20:41:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at one time it was usefull to determine what lines must be flowing at all times 20:41:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that is the main line 20:41:41 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the sidelines merge several lines from the primaries 20:41:43 <Stablean> <bon> mmm think I get it thanks 20:41:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they are 'infused' in the main line via SLH's 20:42:04 <Stablean> <bon> the networks you people sometimes do are....quite different from me but I'm not going complain...different styles after all 20:42:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> when 2 or more mainlines merge or split, it's a BBH 20:42:18 <Stablean> <bon> <does get slight confused at certain screenshots but meh 20:44:08 <Stablean> <bon> I kinda like how the three block signal works together to split traffic down two lines tho 20:44:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where? 20:44:41 <Stablean> <bon> split? sorry..I mean join ... didn't have much nap today 20:44:55 <Stablean> <bon> I'll sign one tho.. 20:45:14 <Stablean> <bon> 'here' is it 20:45:32 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, like that 20:45:47 <Stablean> <bon> mm 20:45:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you could do it with start/end signal 20:45:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but this the other way 20:46:29 <Stablean> <bon> well I'll let you get back to work..you have a gazillion trains to manage :P 20:46:39 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> only 378 20:46:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and most don't need managing 20:46:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> trains rarely do 20:46:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the network does 20:46:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and I only have one of those 20:47:06 <Stablean> <bon> :) 20:47:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> plus, there are other people, also helping 20:47:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's nice 20:47:26 <Stablean> <bon> mm 20:47:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at least, I think they're helping... ;) 20:47:42 <Stablean> <bon> heh 20:47:48 <Stablean> <Jam35> nope :p 20:48:26 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> lots of loading stages... 20:49:44 <Stablean> <Jam35> yep that's the downside with these 20:50:06 <Stablean> <Jam35> I guess they would unbalance things with less 20:50:17 <Stablean> <Jam35> (too good) 20:50:47 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, these were always very desirable 20:51:09 <Stablean> <Jam35> could switch back to medium rail 20:51:24 <Stablean> <Jam35> lose a lot of speed tho' 20:51:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, this is fine, I guess 20:51:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nice speed, nice accel 20:51:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> loading is a minus atm 20:51:57 <Stablean> <Jam35> go animal/slug when time 20:52:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I don't the know the loading stages of the others at this time 20:52:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> specs? 20:52:44 <Stablean> <Jam35> good accel/CL 4stage load 20:52:50 <Stablean> <Jam35> low(er) capacity 20:53:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how much? 20:54:06 <Stablean> <Jam35> not sure 25 20:55:21 <Stablean> <Jam35> 16 platforms? 20:55:33 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at least 8 20:55:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we need 8 for a full line 20:55:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and 16 for 2 full lines 20:56:03 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 20:56:03 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 20:56:07 <Stablean> <Jam35> the drop needs it more 20:56:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if we switch to slug, with 4 loading stages, 20:56:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 8 might be sufficient for a time 20:59:48 <Stablean> <bon> huh...just noticed now and thats a bit silly .. two food processing plants almost next to each others 21:00:36 <Stablean> *** Dixon joined the game 21:00:38 <Stablean> <bon> hi dixon 21:00:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi Dixon: 21:00:54 <Stablean> <Jam35> lol hi 21:02:29 <V453000> hyyy 21:02:31 <Stablean> <Dixon> hi all 21:03:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi dixon 21:04:07 <Stablean> <bon> hmm not sure about trusting this...website only copyrighted 2012 .. and the restaurant is a bit out of the way to go and only find out its not there....what to do hmm 21:18:08 <Stablean> <bon> nice...took on testing the newer tugboat :) 21:20:44 <Stablean> <bon> anyway going out to eat...hopefully 21:20:48 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 21:22:05 <BiG_MeEcH> Holy Shit 21:22:08 <BiG_MeEcH> Dixon! 21:22:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 21:22:27 <BiG_MeEcH> yoooooooooOOOO! 21:22:34 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 21:23:26 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb big meech 21:23:32 *** Djanx has joined #openttdcoop.stable 21:24:25 <Stablean> <Dixon> ha, you must have me confused with someone else. 21:24:35 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :( 21:24:43 <Stablean> <Dixon> or I've stolen someone's name round these parts 21:24:54 <Stablean> <Big Meech> whattttttt no way! 21:24:56 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this is not the Dixon: who has frequented this server earlier? 21:25:14 <Stablean> <Dixon> Nope, never played ottd online before 21:25:20 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :(( 21:25:20 <Stablean> <Jam35> BS 21:25:23 <Stablean> <Big Meech> lmao 21:25:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :'( 21:25:39 <Stablean> <Big Meech> these aren;t the Dixons' you are looking for 21:25:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :) 21:25:52 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined company #1 21:26:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no pw? 21:26:10 <Stablean> <Big Meech> there was a password earlier 21:26:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> darrr 'tis 21:26:50 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Dixon quit lying :P 21:27:00 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> denial, one of the symptoms of grief... 21:27:06 <Stablean> <Big Meech> if it really isnt you, I'm sorry xD 21:27:12 <Stablean> <Big Meech> <-- misses real Dixon 21:28:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, Dixon, you're not real 21:28:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but still, what brings you here? 21:28:52 <Stablean> <Dixon> I've cruised around the site and figured I should check out a game, see what's up. Just watching, checking out some junctions etc. 21:30:28 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 21:30:39 <Jam35> cyas 21:30:50 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb jam 21:30:50 <Stablean> <Big Meech> seeya 21:31:00 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 21:33:16 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators 21:34:56 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 21:34:56 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 21:44:54 <Stablean> <Dixon> well, back to fence construction. See you folks later 21:45:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb 21:45:07 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb 21:45:07 <Stablean> *** Dixon has left the game (leaving) 21:50:08 <Stablean> *** Orum joined the game 21:51:19 <Stablean> *** Orum has left the game (general timeout) 21:51:19 <Stablean> *** Orum has left the game (connection lost) 21:58:38 <Stablean> *** Orum has started a new company (#7) 21:58:41 <Stablean> *** Orum joined the game 22:31:18 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 22:31:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb 22:31:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I'm going to bed too 22:31:58 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined spectators 22:32:00 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok gn 22:32:22 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving) 22:32:24 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 23:06:07 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 23:06:15 <Stablean> <bon> that was some supper :-s 23:10:47 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 23:10:48 <Stablean> <bon> hi sylf 23:11:31 <Stablean> <bon> funny timing tho..I just got online for a short time and presto you finally show up in the meanwhile too :) 23:11:45 <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm not sure what V means with this message.... 23:12:19 <Stablean> <Sylf> but, fine, we'll keep rail price untouched in the future. 23:12:53 <Stablean> <bon> I have two signs for you tho...especially the one re 'if this is an issue' 23:13:17 <Stablean> <Sylf> So I see that Meech built a station and didn't add trains 23:13:32 <Stablean> <bon> apparently 23:13:37 <V453000> what the message says I mean Sylf :) 23:13:48 <V453000> with the parameter of tracks = no costs, it breaks 23:13:55 <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah. 23:14:10 <Stablean> *** Orum has left the game (general timeout) 23:14:10 <Stablean> *** Orum has left the game (connection lost) 23:14:14 <Stablean> <Sylf> I just don't know how everything works between the rail price and what not 23:14:17 <V453000> it is because the convert tool doesnt check for tiles 23:14:27 <V453000> it checks the price of conversion 23:14:29 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh 23:14:35 <Stablean> <Sylf> weird 23:14:36 <V453000> if 0, then "no tracks to convert" error 23:14:42 <V453000> weird, but thats what it does :D 23:15:55 <V453000> Sylf could you please put it on bugs.openttd.org 23:16:01 <V453000> gotta go sleep :d dying 23:16:07 <Stablean> <Sylf> :P maybe. 23:16:17 <V453000> if you wont, I will tomorrow :) 23:16:19 <V453000> cya 23:16:19 <Stablean> <Sylf> if I don't get around to it, you can tomorrow 23:16:57 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 23:23:13 <BiG_MeEcH> I didnt build a station , all i did was convert trains to level 6 23:25:44 <Stablean> <bon> mm well I need to afk for a bit again :-/ hopefully finally building more by then 23:25:50 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 23:25:50 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:37:48 *** Sturmi has quit IRC