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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 12th October 2013:
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02:19:14  <BiG_MeEcH> !players
02:19:17  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 593 (Yellow) is RedMustang, in company 7 (SS)
02:19:17  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 589 (Green) is Anson, in company 8 (Anson Transport)
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02:20:05  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, meech
02:20:20  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I think mauve is playing a game with my head xD
02:20:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> aka, Andy G transport
02:20:44  <Stablean> <Anson> i just had "a bit" of chaos :-)
02:21:02  <Stablean> <Big Meech> good
02:21:02  <Stablean> <Anson> was rebuilding a station and thus got a jam and no income
02:21:28  <Stablean> <Anson> when it worked again with a temporary fix, i got a jam at another station
02:21:38  <Stablean> <Anson> which blocked the whole net
02:21:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> great! :D
02:22:07  <Stablean> <Anson> to fix that, i needed to reverse many signals, and in the meantime, my cash was down to zero (including loan)
02:23:14  <Stablean> <Anson> and finally, the jam was fixed, and they stopped at the first temporary fix of the other station since one rail was missing ... how do you buy one when you have no cash ?
02:23:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sell off trains and or rails
02:23:48  <Stablean> <Big Meech> been there before xD
02:23:55  <Stablean> <Anson> i had to sell 6 trains to get enough cash ...
02:24:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> nice
02:24:39  <Stablean> <Anson> one would have been enough, but i needed to send trains to a depot to sell, and how do you do that when the whole net is jammed and you need just that missing rail to send trains to a depot ....
02:25:10  <Stablean> <Anson> takes time, and that causes more costs again ...
02:43:11  <Stablean> <Anson> RedMustang, are you online ?
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07:06:28  <Stablean> <V453000> moo
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10:24:50  <happy> hi all
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10:30:34  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo happy
10:31:00  <Stablean> <Anson> just finished some hard work ... doubling all my main lines :-)
10:31:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  anson
10:31:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  looks  nice
10:32:09  <Stablean> <Anson> had built a big loop without intent to be doubled ... thus not so easy, and many joins from pickups only go to either side of the new ML, but it should work now .-)
10:32:35  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
10:32:50  <Stablean> <Anson> most difficult was the last 10 tiles ... !here
10:33:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep i see it
10:33:51  <Stablean> <Anson> from the shortcut to the corner ... from !here to !there
10:34:10  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
10:34:33  <Stablean> <Anson> that was a single line with only a few splits to the left and right ....
10:34:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i see
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10:35:56  <Stablean> <Anson> now the net has two ugly X crossings in the ML, next to !here, but i didn't know how to solve that problem without deleting and rebuilding too much
10:36:22  <Stablean> <Anson> do you have an idea ?
10:37:33  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> doo a sign   and iu have a look
10:38:07  <Stablean> <Anson> at !here, and the second X crossing is a few tiles to the south of it
10:38:37  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep i see itnow
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10:39:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> u mite need  to   doo a smal slh or
10:40:36  <Stablean> <Anson> the whole network started as a loop with 3 pickups ... there were not more pickups on the island !
10:40:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
10:40:51  <Stablean> <Anson> then some more appeared and i connected them to the loop
10:40:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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10:41:12  <Stablean> <Anson> that's why there was no real mainline, but the whole network is rather a sideline :-)
10:41:18  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i se
10:41:24  <Stablean> <ars> hi
10:41:27  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
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10:42:26  <Stablean> <Anson> twice, the net was even so badly jammed that i was in red numbers and barely escaped a bankruptcy (already had gotten warnings)
10:43:32  <Stablean> <Anson> and while the double ML was not yet finished, there was a permanent jam from uglyX1 back to (and through) the BIG DROP
10:43:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok i got a plan  for   x1  but not shor  if  it going  to werk
10:43:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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10:45:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> anson  can i  try sume thin at  the   x1
10:45:22  <Stablean> <Anson> when i look at the minimap, the whole net looks very healthy ... do you see problems which might ned immediate fixes ?  (besides the bridges to the second island)
10:45:41  <Stablean> <Anson> and the really bad connection to the third island
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10:46:22  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: i think nobody will object that i use three islands and not only one ? :-)
10:47:37  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i can  see    the proberm  at the x1     and i    got a plan  to  fixs  it
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10:50:07  <Stablean> <Anson> just fixed the bridges
10:50:30  <Stablean> <Anson> how would you do X1 ?
10:51:04  <Stablean> <Anson> don't understand what you mean with "more this" ?
10:51:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i will  mor    that   ml  to  this 2
10:51:59  <Stablean> <Anson> more ? move ?
10:52:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> soory  its my  spleing n is   not good
10:53:57  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> anson   can i  join   and i will   show u
10:54:03  <Stablean> <Anson> problem is that it is almost a BBH ... 2+2->2
10:54:57  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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11:00:15  <Stablean> <Anson> what about trains from the north which need to split too ... on the left lane of the ML
11:00:37  <Stablean> <Anson> from A to B
11:00:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
11:04:14  <Stablean> <Anson> stop
11:04:37  <Stablean> <Anson> you connect one ML with another, before the split to the pickups
11:04:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar
11:05:05  <Stablean> <Anson> "ugly X1" is in the middle of a BBH
11:06:19  <Stablean> <Anson> what you just built is not bad, but it would need to connect to C
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11:07:10  <Stablean> <Anson> and i don't want to rebuild the station Grendstone COLA 3 ...
11:07:38  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wich  pike  up  need  the split
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11:08:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  jam
11:09:22  <Jam35> hi
11:09:30  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how things
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11:09:56  <Jam35> bad
11:10:04  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, jam ... i have no more jams :-)
11:10:09  <Jam35> no not really
11:10:11  <Jam35> good
11:11:19  <Jam35> I have but unable to fix that
11:12:17  <Jam35> <1000 trains yet so slow
11:13:01  <Jam35> mind if I pause for 1 minute?
11:13:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nop  go  for  it
11:13:28  <Jam35> ok
11:13:31  <Jam35> !pause
11:13:31  <Stablean> Jam35: you must be channel op to use !pause
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11:13:42  <Jam35> @op
11:13:44  <Jam35> :(
11:13:48  <Jam35> nm
11:14:46  <Stablean> <Anson> ok, ugly X1 seems to be fixed now ... thanks, happy
11:14:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> np
11:15:10  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> not  shor  a bout  x2
11:15:37  <Stablean> <Anson> since this is not the PS, i like tighter layouts, and thus rebuilt what you showed me, but the routing is still what you suggested
11:17:43  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i dont think i can fixs that  x2  sorrey
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11:22:07  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> arsk  troy  he  can  fixs  that  x2
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11:24:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer    jam  is back
11:26:15  <Stablean> <Anson> just checked : later on the track, all splits already are from BOTH lanes of the ML ... it is only important for the first two to the left
11:26:37  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
11:26:43  <Stablean> <Anson> the two to the right are already fixed now, thanks to the new bversion of X1
11:27:05  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
11:27:07  <Stablean> <Jam35> Anson: I would think making those industries nearby use the same split & merge
11:27:37  <Stablean> <Anson> now the ugly X is only an ugly Y :-)
11:28:07  <Stablean> <Jam35> so build a 1/2 slh
11:28:15  <Stablean> <Anson> what do you mean, jam ? the same ???
11:28:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> they all leave the ML at the same split
11:28:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> and join at sam merge
11:28:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> *same
11:29:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> it is one direction so easy
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11:29:53  <Stablean> <Anson> problem is how to connect the right rail at A with the splits to the left (B1 and B2)
11:31:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> well move some rails
11:31:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> and tunnel/bridge
11:31:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> make the entry at B longer by looping aroung
11:31:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> *around
11:31:51  <Stablean> <Anson> now it is only one B instead of B1/B2 ... but how to get from right rail at A split on left side ..
11:32:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> move station COLA 3?
11:32:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> and !this line
11:32:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> then you have space
11:32:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> to bridge tunnel into the SL
11:35:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> I guess you should be less 'afraid' to destroy stuff in general
11:35:16  <Stablean> <Jam35> it should be a piece of cake
11:35:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> no pun intended
11:35:43  <Sturmi> hmmm cake
11:36:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi sturmi
11:36:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how things
11:36:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> :P
11:37:44  <Stablean> <Anson> i always take it as a challenge to keep stations as they are, and also avoid too much TF
11:37:56  <Sturmi> +1
11:38:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> then forward planning should be top of that list :P
11:39:06  <Stablean> <Anson> there are some tight curves now, but at least the X in the middle of the ML is gone
11:39:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> seems better yes
11:39:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> jam doo  u need  eney  help   whive your  net werk
11:40:09  <Stablean> <Anson> that's what i need to train : forward planning and at the same time still start a company fast before the first industries vanish at the new stations
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11:41:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> I should be ok thanks :)
11:41:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> but join if u want
11:41:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
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11:45:02  <Stablean> <Anson> do you have any ideas for an elegant solution to get rid of the last queue that i have : the cargo which queues up in Suntston FEEDER and Sunfingwell FACTORIES ?
11:45:14  <Sturmi> still the toyland game?
11:45:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> ye
11:45:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> +s
11:45:44  <Sturmi> meh...
11:46:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> rebuild the station better
11:46:28  <Stablean> <Anson> first, it was only the FACTORIES station with refitting trains and rating was below 50%, thus lots of space to transport additional cargo ... now there is almost more additional cargo than original, and rating is also higher so that less space can be used for it
11:47:34  <Stablean> <Anson> i think that the refitting trains are not enough to transport everything, including the cargo i get from the FEEDER
11:48:16  <Stablean> <Anson> rebuilding station alone won't be enough ... and i need an idea how to transport cargo from FEEDER to FACTORIES
11:50:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> separate drops
11:52:13  <BiG_MeEcH> yooOOOOooOOOoOOOOoOOOO!
11:52:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
11:52:38  <happy> hi  big  meech
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11:53:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I see the best player ever Red Mustang is still playing!
11:53:48  <Stablean> <Big Meech> what a trooper
12:19:25  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
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12:19:33  <happy> hi v
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12:25:33  <happy> wb  bon
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12:26:02  <Stablean> <bon> hi happy and jam
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12:28:23  <Stablean> <bon> how're you two?
12:28:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
12:28:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok thanks
12:28:43  <happy> good  thankd
12:29:54  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
12:30:08  <Stablean> <bon> hi anson
12:30:38  <Stablean> <Anson> just reminded me of an old adventure game ... so old that it was still a purely TEXT adventure :-)
12:31:24  <Stablean> <Anson> you had to give commands like "walk left", "look window", "open door", etc ...
12:31:34  <Stablean> <bon> :p
12:32:36  <Stablean> <Anson> guess what happens when you encounter a well in front of the house ?  (i think the game was by douglas adams, known for the hitchhiker's guide)
12:33:03  <Stablean> <Anson> what command would you give ... try it :-)
12:33:45  <Stablean> <bon> so what else you three up to atm?
12:34:12  <Stablean> <Anson> usual first command was always to inspect something ... thus:  "look well"
12:34:27  <Stablean> <Anson> and the answer from the program : "oh yes, you do"
12:38:30  <Stablean> <bon> mm well I'm going off as usual...have some parameters to write yet
12:38:45  <Stablean> <bon> have fun either way ... heh
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13:05:17  <Stablean> <Anson> didn't the train driver find the right path in the new knot ?
13:05:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> he ran a red light
13:09:27  <Stablean> <V453000> Jam35 where iz dem rainbow
13:09:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> hm later :)
13:10:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> can't build often as it is
13:10:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> slow fast etc
13:10:48  <Sturmi> raainbow is here http://media.chilloutzone.net/_images/sequence/1109/12322_seq-3.jpg
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16:49:12  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
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17:10:52  <Stablean> <Andy G> new map sometime?
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18:18:20  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, RedMustang ... are you online yourself now ? ... or did you auto-relog ? ...
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19:46:02  <Stablean> <bon> hi :)
19:47:58  <Stablean> <bon> mm guess I'll just check in tomorrow
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21:19:13  <happy> hi all
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22:05:37  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, happy
22:06:09  <happy> hi anson
22:06:38  <Stablean> <Anson> today i alternated between TV and rebuilding again and again :-)
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22:06:47  <Stablean> <Anson> just finished the Nth rebuild :-)
22:07:11  <happy> nice
22:07:53  <Stablean> <Anson> you remember how it looked next to the big drop ?
22:08:31  <happy> yep
22:09:45  <Stablean> <Anson> the shortcut is now LLRR instead of only LL, and the other line is now completely RR instead of partially R only
22:10:44  <happy> yep
22:11:34  <Stablean> <Anson> next would be to completely rebuild the FACTORIES station ... from north/south oriented terminus into east/west oriented roro
22:11:51  <happy> yep
22:13:06  <Stablean> <Anson> but is it worth it ? ... trains now queue up in front of that station, but it is already 2150+ ...
22:13:33  <happy> i see
22:13:42  <Stablean> <Anson> if you want to do something, "fell fre to john" :-)
22:14:48  <Stablean> <Anson> challenge : no nuking of the whole area ... traffic must continue with at least maybe 50% of normal capacity :-)
22:15:11  <happy> thanks but i can not play in till. to.mor
22:16:20  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: Red finally logged off, maybe 1-2 hours ago ... after he lost con and re-joined half an hour later earlier in the evening
22:17:26  <Stablean> <Anson> was online for 24+ hours without actively doing anything ... even still has some loan although the company has almost 500 mio cash now
22:18:36  <happy> anson how meny players ar on
22:18:51  <Stablean> <Anson> I
22:19:39  <Stablean> <Anson> take that answer as roman numeral for 1, or "me" :-)
22:20:21  <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators
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22:21:03  <Stablean> <Anson> I'll take a break ... will be back in front of (but not at) the keyboard soon
22:21:26  <Stablean> *** solo has left the game (leaving)
22:21:54  <happy> ok
22:22:20  <Stablean> <Anson> three spectators now, no players : stablean, anson, meech
22:23:35  <happy> has troy bee on
22:40:24  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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22:42:02  <happy> gn all
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22:56:20  <Stablean> *** Anson has joined company #8
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