Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 21st October 2013:
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00:00:11  <Stablean> <travstr> my delivered cargo is up now bon ;))
00:00:27  <Stablean> <bon> heh nice now :)
00:00:33  <Stablean> <travstr> yeee
00:00:35  <Stablean> <bon> mine may go up a bit before I go to bed too
00:00:41  <Stablean> <travstr> hopefully
00:00:47  <Stablean> <bon> but mm first... killing off steam :)
00:00:53  <Stablean> <bon> then I'll look at the bauxite after
00:01:12  <Stablean> <travstr> bauxite?
00:01:14  <Stablean> <travstr> wutwut
00:01:32  <Stablean> <bon> thats what it look like to me... these silly gfx industries
00:01:35  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
00:01:49  <Stablean> <bon> to think in the last game I was confused by two identical was actually for gold and other for diamonds
00:01:51  <Stablean> <travstr> HAHAHAAHAHHAAHAH
00:01:57  <Stablean> <bon> the opengfx team clearly need a kick :/
00:02:03  <Stablean> <travstr> lol yeah that confused me too lol!
00:02:17  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> There's diamond mines?
00:02:23  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Why haven't we found any yet?
00:02:35  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> oh wait it's 1961
00:02:41  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
00:02:43  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> No, wait, they would of found diamonds by then.
00:03:01  <Stablean> <travstr> not on this map it seems
00:04:40  <Stablean> <travstr> more wet rails :DDD
00:05:34  <Stablean> <bon> I don't see any ships in your list? :)
00:05:40  <Stablean> <travstr> i know haha
00:05:50  <Stablean> <travstr> i was hoping you'd use them ;))
00:05:52  <Stablean> <travstr> wink
00:06:03  <Stablean> <bon> I only have the two short loops..that'll probaby be it
00:06:13  <Stablean> <travstr> lol ok :/
00:08:32  <Stablean> *** titanic joined the game
00:08:56  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving)
00:10:17  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...try find a tiny zippy train of mine :P
00:10:21  <Stablean> <bon> its on red purrail :)
00:10:36  <Stablean> <travstr> okay
00:10:43  <Stablean> <travstr> this is like where's waldo
00:10:45  <Stablean> <bon> 1 tile long if I should mention
00:10:45  <Stablean> <travstr> or wallu
00:10:47  <Stablean> <travstr> wally*
00:10:53  <Stablean> <bon> look in train list silly..its right there
00:11:01  <Stablean> <travstr> nah that's no fun ;)
00:11:07  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> FUGGEN SERIOUSLY
00:11:11  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> I WAS ABOUT TO START USING A COPPER MINE
00:11:13  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> AND IT DISSAPPEARED
00:11:15  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> FAK
00:11:18  <Stablean> <travstr> lol gg
00:11:20  <Stablean> <bon> well I had to use that little smoking monorail for something so I decided to put it there :)
00:11:30  <Stablean> <travstr> ok i can't see it
00:11:30  <Stablean> <bon> goofball..did it have a production rate of less than 30 tonnes?
00:11:32  <Stablean> <travstr> i'll use the list lol
00:11:34  <Stablean> <bon> if so theres the the news
00:11:36  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> It was unused
00:11:44  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> And I was about to start using it.
00:11:46  <Stablean> <travstr> that's the problem
00:11:56  <Stablean> <bon> goofball .. unused != low production = news: closing soon
00:11:58  <Stablean> <travstr> if unused for too long the production goes down and down until... no more
00:12:01  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Like, I just funded a factory for it and everything
00:12:08  <Stablean> <travstr> lol gee gee
00:12:14  <Stablean> <travstr> prospect
00:12:16  <Stablean> <travstr> i guess
00:12:22  <Stablean> <bon> so travstr...found my 1-tile-long train yet? :)
00:12:36  <Stablean> <travstr> hah yeah :D
00:12:39  <Stablean> <travstr> lolll
00:12:54  <Stablean> <bon> may see how long I can keep it like this whether newer locos or not :)
00:14:24  <Stablean> <travstr> it looks cool
00:14:26  <Stablean> <travstr> cute haha
00:14:33  <Stablean> *** titanic has left the game (leaving)
00:15:16  <happy> gn all
00:15:23  <Stablean> <bon> bye happy :)
00:15:23  <Stablean> <travstr> bb happy :>
00:15:49  <Stablean> <bon> slowly but surely my steam locos are disappearing :)
00:15:59  <Stablean> <bon> although that one silly chuggy box will stay for a while :)
00:16:06  <Stablean> <travstr> haha :D
00:16:13  <Stablean> <bon> the next monorail has no smoke tho ;)
00:16:15  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> steam locos forever
00:16:19  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> steam locos is love
00:16:22  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> steam locos is life
00:16:28  <Stablean> <bon> well I prefer progress ;)
00:16:34  <Stablean> <bon> and the zombies can do that for me :P
00:16:44  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> so are wetrails ocean rails?
00:16:58  <Stablean> <travstr> not really
00:17:05  <Stablean> <travstr> it's like  a theme park water slide
00:17:08  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> so they can't go across the ocean?
00:17:10  <Stablean> <travstr> except it's actual boats
00:17:12  <Stablean> <travstr> nope
00:17:14  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> that's useless.
00:17:28  <Stablean> <travstr> high capacity... i'll let bon explain the benefits lol
00:17:50  <Stablean> <bon> *throws a seaworthy beet at travstr*
00:18:01  <Stablean> <bon> or did you rather want a bottle of strong wine instead?
00:18:04  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:18:09  <Stablean> <bon> heheheheh
00:18:13  <Stablean> <travstr> beet is great :D
00:18:27  <Stablean> <bon> its beer not beet :P
00:18:37  <Stablean> <bon> I was waiting to see if anyone would trip up on that intentional misspell :P
00:18:39  <Stablean> <bon> hehehehe
00:18:51  <Stablean> <travstr> i didn't understand you lollll
00:18:57  <Stablean> <travstr> but i thought i'll let it slide
00:18:59  <Stablean> <travstr> and go along
00:18:59  <Stablean> <bon> but anyway...there you can try the 'brickwalker' for yourself
00:19:09  <Stablean> <travstr> ehhh idk
00:19:12  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> New mail cargo tram incoming soon
00:19:34  <Stablean> <bon> travstr....well the brickwalker can mix in with the normal trains on purrail anyway
00:19:44  <Stablean> <bon> it'll do 160kph with a longer train
00:19:50  <Stablean> <travstr> oh cool
00:19:53  <Stablean> <travstr> is it passenger?
00:19:56  <Stablean> <travstr> intercity?
00:20:02  <Stablean> <bon> you can use it for any cargos
00:20:04  <Stablean> <bon> look at the wagons it'll tell you
00:20:06  <Stablean> <travstr> o
00:20:16  <Stablean> <travstr> ohh chami
00:20:18  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
00:20:22  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> I only have 7 trains #wow #whoa
00:20:32  <Stablean> <travstr> i have 63 now :/
00:20:38  <Stablean> <travstr> solo has 500 WHAT
00:20:41  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...yeah the wagons look shorty and in two pieces .. thats to match the locos themself
00:20:43  <Stablean> <travstr> LOL WHAT
00:20:58  <Stablean> <bon> travstr... solo is trying to use too many teeny trains instead of fewer proper ones eh?
00:21:00  <Stablean> <travstr> then again his trains are super short
00:21:04  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah seems like it
00:21:10  <Stablean> <bon> I already just sold off two trains thanks to upgraded wagon capacity :)
00:21:12  <Stablean> <travstr> shame he couldn't do it SOMEWHERE ELSE
00:21:14  <Stablean> <bon> may still sell one more but I'll see
00:21:20  <Stablean> <travstr> oh nice yeah i need to check that too actually
00:21:55  <Stablean> <bon> 115kph with 1st gen wagon >> 140kph with 2nd gen wagon .... obviously thats more cargo moved at a faster rate meaning = less trains needed
00:21:57  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:22:11  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Two new road passenger buses soon
00:22:21  <Stablean> <travstr> oooh amazing
00:22:21  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> my london double deckers may become lutdated
00:22:35  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah bon it's very good
00:22:37  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...btw if I haven't mentioned it yet...
00:22:39  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> i just need quaddeckers soon
00:22:41  <Stablean> <travstr> more efficiency :D
00:22:59  <Stablean> <bon> one main reason I love HEQS for trams is helps with mountaineous maps since trams don't need signals unlike the rail trains
00:22:59  <Stablean> <travstr> ?
00:23:05  <Stablean> <travstr> o
00:23:07  <Stablean> <bon> so you can have 2-3 trams going throuhg one single tunnel just like that
00:23:07  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:23:15  <Stablean> *** Iamgoofball has changed his/her name to {Iamgoofball[AFK]}
00:23:15  <Stablean> <travstr> wow really?
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00:23:21  <Stablean> <travstr> do you use them much?
00:23:23  <Stablean> <bon> since trams are treated the same as road trucks anyway
00:23:30  <Stablean> <bon> yeah I use them a lot in my own games :->
00:23:33  <Stablean> <travstr> oh yeah, awesome
00:23:41  <Stablean> <bon> their only slight con is the low top speeds but eh
00:26:56  <Stablean> <bon> you want know whats funny about "having 500 trains"? your unit of cargo is no better than just using longer trains eh?
00:27:16  <Stablean> <travstr> true!
00:27:27  <Stablean> <bon> heck you only have 63 versus what solo has and your cargo line is....above his :)
00:27:49  <Stablean> <travstr> omg i'm first on the leaderboard
00:27:51  <Stablean> <bon> I'll always be a bit behind but thats ok .. I'll be a bit less behind when I get these red mines served :)
00:27:53  <Stablean> <travstr> YES BITCH.
00:28:07  <Stablean> <bon> umm..I was first for a while but you jumped you rotten player :P
00:28:10  <Stablean> <travstr> and you're second hehehe
00:28:13  <Stablean> <bon> maybe I'll catch you
00:28:15  <Stablean> <travstr> stay down fool
00:28:17  <Stablean> <travstr> ;)
00:28:19  <Stablean> <bon> *whacks you* :P
00:28:21  <Stablean> <bon> HEH
00:28:39  <Stablean> <bon> well if I add more trains an one more cargo slot that would raus my performance points some more so :)
00:28:57  <Stablean> <bon> you have zero point for minimum profits tho? :-/
00:29:19  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i need to remove some of the pointless trains
00:29:37  <Stablean> <travstr> plus i just had a jam
00:29:43  <Stablean> <travstr> so lots of trains were doing nothing
00:29:49  <Stablean> <bon> but anyway yeah in the cargo unit display ... it seem like I'm not too far from slamming solo
00:29:55  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm
00:30:03  <Stablean> <bon> its been rising slowly .. you can see it between 1960 and 1962 anyway
00:30:13  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:30:23  <Stablean> <bon> as for that thick yellow line...umm who knows? :)
00:30:34  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> Our profit lines are holding hands
00:30:45  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> Kinky.
00:30:56  <Stablean> <travstr> haha
00:31:03  <Stablean> <bon> btw travstr..if you haven't noticed...
00:31:17  <Stablean> <travstr> mmm
00:31:19  <Stablean> <bon> INERCITY is ok for long distance but only if you have the stations to spare as they take some time to load up...
00:31:30  <Stablean> <bon> while LOCAL are slow but they sure can load *fast* almost like real subways do
00:31:33  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah...
00:31:40  <Stablean> <bon> just watch my station in Pubourne...
00:31:56  <Stablean> <bon> they go from <100% to >100% in a blink then leave in almost no time
00:31:58  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:32:14  <Stablean> <travstr> nice :o
00:32:20  <Stablean> <bon> so if you're having problem with lot of passengers waiting..try switch to LOCAL trains instead
00:32:38  <Stablean> <bon> and add extra trains to make up the slower may be able to increase capacity not surprisingly
00:32:38  <Stablean> <travstr> wow fast
00:33:22  <Stablean> <bon> for example two intercity trains with 200 seating could be replaced with three local trains with 200 seating .. and the latter has a higher route capacity even if its slower
00:33:28  <Stablean> <bon> you following I hope right? :)
00:33:51  <Stablean> <travstr> kinda
00:33:57  <Stablean> <travstr> hold on let me read chat :>
00:33:59  <Stablean> <bon> yeah sorry not too good at explaining it
00:34:01  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:34:07  <Stablean> <travstr> no i'm just clearing a jam :////
00:34:10  <Stablean> <bon> aha
00:35:04  <Stablean> <travstr> okay i understand lol
00:35:10  <Stablean> <travstr> might need to do that...
00:35:24  <Stablean> <travstr> but the reason i didnt was because it would slow my other trains (goods etc.)
00:35:31  <Stablean> <travstr> though mainly they're not actually meeting each other
00:35:33  <Stablean> <bon> yeah I see what you sec...
00:35:47  <Stablean> <bon> well your goods are 140 ... the local now is 120
00:35:51  <Stablean> <bon> so no big speed difference atm
00:36:01  <Stablean> <bon> and later it may get better speeds anyway
00:36:28  <Stablean> <travstr> hmmm true
00:36:46  <Stablean> <bon> last I recall I think LOCAL could get up to 160kph for certain
00:36:56  <Stablean> <bon> but there were monorail LOCAL with higher top speeds too tho
00:37:02  <Stablean> <travstr> oh cool :o
00:37:32  <Stablean> <bon> the only one slight thing with a LOCAL tho is...
00:37:46  <Stablean> <bon> they are slight weak so you sometimes should run two of them on one train if its a longer one
00:38:20  <Stablean> <bon> mine is onyl 4 car long but already it does slow just slightly bit on a slope
00:39:54  <Stablean> <bon> and hmm yeah I just rechecked.. zombies all the way except for the isolated ships and the one smoking monorail
00:39:56  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:39:56  <Stablean> <travstr> sorry was fixing teh jams
00:40:10  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i see
00:40:28  <Stablean> <bon> who knows what's after the zombies tho :P
00:40:30  <Stablean> <bon> maybe puppies ;)
00:40:36  <Stablean> <bon> (aka monorail)
00:40:38  <Stablean> <travstr> hahah
00:44:16  <Stablean> <bon> ehh about to slice one train for sale :)
00:44:24  <Stablean> <travstr> hehe
00:44:39  <Stablean> <bon> may try do the mines soon or..just put it off to tomorrow...will see tho
00:44:49  <Stablean> <travstr> okay bb :>
00:46:57  <Stablean> <bon> still think its too silly to have a ship carry water but whatever :P
00:47:03  <Stablean> <travstr> haha
00:47:21  <Stablean> <bon> ehh... Hutbridge? why? theres noowhere to put the ore!
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00:48:27  <Stablean> <travstr> woooooooooo
00:48:33  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> Hot damn I make 74K out of vehicles a month
00:49:23  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> out of curiosity, am I allowed to be a total douchenozzle and lower land people are about to build over?
00:49:30  <Stablean> <travstr> ummmmmmmm
00:49:40  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> Just wondering.
00:49:46  <Stablean> <travstr> idk
00:50:09  <Stablean> <travstr> where would this situation be?
00:50:18  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> No idea, it was just a question
00:50:35  <Stablean> <travstr> o okay
00:50:46  <Stablean> <bon> that *** refinery annoys me in an odd way :->
00:53:21  <Stablean> <bon> ok I'm about to do something rather weird only because I want to help out a tiny isolated village :)
00:53:31  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> is it slindworth
00:53:33  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> or is any of mys tuff near it
00:57:04  <Stablean> <bon> train 22 ;)
00:57:10  <Stablean> <bon> not sure if I'll keep it but we'll see :)
00:57:44  <Stablean> <travstr> LOL
00:57:59  <Stablean> <bon> I might actually just scrap it but lets see how long it can last for
00:58:14  <Stablean> <travstr> it needs mail to grow
00:58:36  <Stablean> <bon> I'm not sure about other two towns have grown with only passengers alone
00:58:58  <Stablean> <travstr> o ok
00:59:32  <Stablean> <bon> anyway don't bet on it staying tho...theres a 50/50 chance anyway
00:59:34  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
00:59:52  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> what is your company bon?
01:00:02  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> there are too many dark grey/brown colors
01:00:12  <Stablean> <travstr> nutty thing
01:00:14  <Stablean> <bon> umm theres only one brown
01:00:22  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> train 22?
01:00:30  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm
01:00:52  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> ahahah
01:01:02  <Stablean> <bon> travstr also this line is where you see how the little monorail doesn't care for sharp curves
01:01:16  <Stablean> <bon> other trains would had slowed down to 88kph in the middle section but not this one
01:01:32  <Stablean> <bon> so :)
01:01:52  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> this game reminds me of sim city 1
01:02:02  <Stablean> <travstr> wooooooo thunder kiss!
01:02:08  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> where the best transportation method was to have each object have a railway surrounding it
01:02:23  <Stablean> <bon> meh I'm not bothered .. 140>155 isn't much to me ;)
01:02:30  <Stablean> <bon> I'll wait for 6th gen or a monorail loco :)
01:02:33  <Stablean> <travstr> it is to me lol
01:02:47  <Stablean> <travstr> my intercity is 170 so i need it
01:02:55  <Stablean> <bon> whatever happened to 'better' LOCAL?
01:03:02  <Stablean> <bon> but ehh its your own city so its your own problem I guess :)
01:03:16  <Stablean> <travstr> nah
01:03:18  <Stablean> <travstr> too slow
01:03:24  <Stablean> <travstr> it was better on paper
01:03:26  <Stablean> <bon> so add more of them
01:03:33  <Stablean> <travstr> then the problem gets worse
01:03:39  <Stablean> <travstr> it slows my other trains
01:03:41  <Stablean> <bon> eh... well...ok :)
01:03:43  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> oh shit hahaha Pledham bumped up it's population by 1000
01:03:49  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball[AFK]> baby boom must of happened or something
01:03:51  <Stablean> <travstr> it's not the passengers i can't keep up with
01:04:01  <Stablean> <travstr> it's the fact i need the trains to run smoothly, ish
01:04:15  <Stablean> <bon> travstr here's a funny but quite true story from usa....
01:04:41  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm
01:04:53  <Stablean> <bon> theres this one junction where west is two lines .. east is two ... northeast has one line that joins in ...
01:05:07  <Stablean> <bon> and normally the freight and amtrak train gets by just ok but on one particular day...
01:05:10  <Stablean> <travstr> uh huh
01:05:48  <Stablean> <bon> a freight is tied up on west end .. another freight is rumbling over from northeast to one of the other west line just as amtrak train started showing up...
01:06:02  <Stablean> <travstr> ruh roh
01:06:20  <Stablean> <bon> dispatcher askes freight A about his condition ... then asks freight B where he is ... then he finally says "amtrak, you better just wait right there" ...
01:06:34  <Stablean> <bon> he was making a irrefusable point that the amtrak train will just have to stop and wait period
01:06:40  <Stablean> <bon> figures :)
01:06:43  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm
01:07:15  <Stablean> <bon> normally he would had just need to leave a red signal up but by going on the radio like that he wanted to make that clear so everyone understood!
01:07:17  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:07:42  <Stablean> <bon> after all if theres only 2 tracks how are you supposed to send 3 trains eh?
01:07:48  <Stablean> <bon> heheheh
01:08:03  <Stablean> <travstr> lollll
01:08:05  <Stablean> <bon> oh geeze travstr that reminds me of a particular page in a rail photobook issue...
01:08:24  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm
01:08:24  <Stablean> <bon> "murphy's law says two objects can't occupy a single space" .. you think thats right?
01:08:45  <Stablean> <travstr> um... no
01:08:48  <Stablean> <travstr> yes
01:08:52  <Stablean> <travstr> idk :<
01:09:19  <Stablean> <bon> well the photo was of a switcher locomotive and mainline locomotive literally rubbed together side by side with the smaller loco halfway sitting on ballast ...
01:09:37  <Stablean> <bon> seem someone messed up .. two locomotives trying to enter the same switch at once... ops!
01:09:51  <Stablean> <travstr> hahaha
01:09:53  <Stablean> <travstr> fail!
01:10:00  <Stablean> <bon> indeed....and thats not all....
01:10:46  <Stablean> <bon> there was a photo from somewhere in europe that had one of these small 200hp diesel shunter sitting on its side a feet away from the switch where in the same spot a big 3000hp locomotive was .... can you say "uh-oh?" ...
01:11:02  <Stablean> <travstr> lolllllll
01:11:09  <Stablean> <bon> and guess what the mechanic wrote up the flipped locomotive as? "malfunctioning tilt" ..... you got to love people with humor
01:11:27  <Stablean> <bon> how the hell can a little yard shunter have tilting capacity? :P
01:11:27  <Stablean> <travstr> hahaha
01:11:34  <Stablean> <travstr> awesome
01:11:36  <Stablean> <bon> it goes to show you not all workers are boring
01:11:47  <Stablean> <bon> but still "malfunctioning tilt" ... ummm geeze
01:11:49  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:11:55  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm
01:11:58  <Stablean> <travstr> great joke
01:12:00  <Stablean> <bon> yeah
01:12:16  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
01:12:22  <Stablean> <bon> travstr but on a less humorful note sometimes real locomotive nicknames can be silly to think about...
01:12:22  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo
01:12:36  <Stablean> <travstr> ye
01:12:55  <Stablean> <bon> eg what would you think of a "cow and calf units"? thats what usa called it when you had two locomotives coupled together but only one has a cab ... the cabless one always followed the cab unit like a calf follows its cow
01:13:21  <Stablean> <Anson> a short while ago, someone asked about terraforming where someone else builds ...
01:13:25  <Stablean> <travstr> idk
01:13:31  <Stablean> <Anson>
01:13:37  <Stablean> <bon> and if you look it up online uk locomotives sometimes get weird nicknames from railfans heh....
01:13:51  <Stablean> <travstr> weird names lol
01:13:53  <Stablean> <bon> eg Iron Lung = diesel with really bad reliability .. running in pairs all times to try help that
01:13:55  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah anson goofball asked
01:14:02  <Stablean> <travstr> why?
01:14:25  <Stablean> <Anson> read the rules :-)
01:14:27  <Stablean> <bon> or Skates = lacks power and always used in pairs like real skates
01:14:46  <Stablean> <travstr> oh you linked the rules ok
01:14:48  <Stablean> <bon> H-Bomb = because that engine smokes thick mushrooms like the actual bomb did (heh)
01:14:55  <Stablean> <Anson> Don't intentionally block access to industries, large areas of the map or areas that another player is building in.
01:14:57  <Stablean> <bon> and theres many more weird uk nicknames
01:14:57  <Stablean> <travstr> that's weird LOL
01:15:39  <Stablean> <bon> travstr and you want guess what? the early diesel multi-car units were called things like Nodding Donkey, Pogo, etc because they had such bad bouncy suspensions
01:15:49  <Stablean> <travstr> hahah so random lol
01:15:51  <Stablean> <Anson> and you also shall not do too much TF when not needed ...
01:16:10  <Stablean> <Anson> many reasons why nobody should TF "under the eneies rails"
01:16:20  <Stablean> <travstr> anson have you seen our island?
01:16:38  <Stablean> <travstr> it's probably everything not expected of the game lol
01:16:48  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...well...there is also Gronk and Double Gronk ... its in refer to the small boxy diesel shunter locomotives .. I don't know why
01:17:10  <Stablean> <travstr> weird names lol, do you use them? ;>
01:17:13  <Stablean> <bon> nope
01:17:23  <Stablean> <travstr> not surprised lol, are they still used a lot?
01:17:33  <Stablean> <bon> by some railfans yes
01:17:37  <Stablean> <travstr> mhmmmm
01:17:40  <Stablean> <travstr> strange tho
01:17:50  <Stablean> <Anson> the map looks really strange ... usually, every company should have its own island to avoid conflicts, but here i see lots of islands with multiple colors ...
01:18:09  <Stablean> <travstr> seriously look at my rails
01:18:17  <Stablean> <travstr> on the lowest part of the map
01:18:23  <Stablean> <travstr> it's not even funny how tight it is
01:18:25  <Stablean> <bon> anson well I am almost alone .. except for the annoying three blue trams :)
01:18:41  <Stablean> <bon> travstr btw I found another one for you to humor yourself at..
01:18:51  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm
01:19:18  <Stablean> <Anson> i see a red company on two islands, on one together with green, on another together with pink and cream and one more color ... really unusual for this server
01:19:22  <Stablean> <bon> Flower Pot = because short boxy exhaust pipe looks like it ... Hoover = thats what the air/exhaust system sounds like under throttle ha ...
01:19:48  <Stablean> <bon> Teacup = because teacupteacupteacupteacup (thats what they say!)
01:20:02  <Stablean> <travstr> where are these names from LOLL
01:20:16  <Stablean> <bon> from uk railfans on average
01:20:26  <Stablean> <travstr> anson: still have you seen the rails i have here?
01:20:28  <Stablean> <bon> and here's a weird one...
01:20:34  <Stablean> <bon> the uk class 47 is nicknamed .... Twank
01:20:37  <Stablean> <bon> thats almost a curse
01:20:43  <Stablean> <travstr> i had to move onto the other island because solo expanded so much.
01:21:02  <Stablean> <travstr> lol bon why is it a curse
01:21:13  <Stablean> <bon> twank!
01:21:43  <Stablean> <travstr> haha twank sounds like something else, obviously.
01:21:58  <Stablean> <bon> and travstr...if you're complaining about having a tiny cramped cab on an emu train .... uk already has you beat to that...
01:22:04  <Stablean> <bon> nicknamed Dogbox due to being tight
01:22:34  <Stablean> <Anson> travstr : the red company looks nice at first sight ... but the network has several problems when you get more and faster trains
01:22:36  <Stablean> <travstr> omg these names are perect.
01:22:38  <Stablean> <bon> and here is a weird one...
01:22:45  <Stablean> <bon> one of the emu is named NBG ... guess what that is short for?
01:22:55  <Stablean> <bon> No B****dy Good!
01:22:55  <Stablean> <travstr> ummm..
01:23:02  <Stablean> <bon> it sounds like they must have failed a lot
01:23:04  <Stablean> <travstr> haha weird indeed
01:23:10  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah not reliable
01:23:20  <Stablean> <Anson> all these junctions where trains simply cross each others rails and thus stop each other, and all those tight curves which slow down the trains
01:23:22  <Stablean> <travstr> anson: i did what i can with the space lol
01:23:52  <Stablean> <bon> travstr there is something a bit different...
01:24:10  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm
01:24:12  <Stablean> <bon> these tiny 0-4-0T steam locomotives with large water tanks wrapping the boiler? guess what uk always called them ...
01:24:14  <Stablean> <bon> Pugs
01:24:24  <Stablean> <bon> because of the squashed up face that resembles a real Pug's
01:24:31  <Stablean> <travstr> lol but pugs are cute
01:24:34  <Stablean> <travstr> trains are now :D
01:24:36  <Stablean> <travstr> not
01:25:18  <Stablean> <bon> well travstr...look up eg "uk 0-4-0 pugs" images online and you can see why people think they resemble pugs :)
01:25:29  <Stablean> <bon> small 'nose' with the large head
01:25:31  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:25:42  <Stablean> <Anson> travstr, you can do better :-)
01:25:52  <Stablean> <Anson> eg next to Darninghall
01:26:18  <Stablean> <travstr> omg bon they DO LOL
01:26:20  <Stablean> <bon> anson what you think of my train 22?  I just had to do something about that isolated village for fun
01:26:22  <Stablean> <travstr> anson where's darnighall
01:26:24  <Stablean> <Anson> the loop there has a corner with CL 0.5 ...
01:26:55  <Stablean> <Anson> look up the town list ... click on that town name
01:27:29  <Stablean> <travstr> okay on sec
01:27:40  <Stablean> <bon> travstr if you're not laughing too much to actually work on your routes here's another one... one class of uk steam locomotives was called Pom Pom ... only because their exhaust sounds like the Pom guns used on battleships .. what else is new
01:27:50  <Stablean> <travstr> oh darninghall
01:27:52  <Stablean> <Anson> in those tight curves, trains slow down to 88 kph ... and then it takes a long time (with those long heavy trains) to accelerate again
01:28:26  <Stablean> <bon> and umm yeah another class was nicknamed Cement Mixers .. why? because they rode so roughly like as if there was no suspensions at all
01:28:28  <Stablean> <bon> :p
01:28:42  <Stablean> <travstr> lots of weird names
01:28:44  <Stablean> <travstr> though kinda true
01:28:48  <Stablean> <travstr> anson: okay lol
01:28:51  <Stablean> <bon> sure had a lot of them
01:28:57  <Stablean> <Anson> do you see the tight curve north of Darninghall ?   (north is top left corner of screen)
01:29:27  <Stablean> <travstr> yes but you must remeber i haven't got a lot of space
01:29:31  <Stablean> <travstr> and i didn't want the forest to disappear
01:29:37  <Stablean> <travstr> so i did it quickly
01:29:47  <Stablean> <Anson> just move the loop by 1 or 2 tiles and make it smoother ... trains will be a lot faster then
01:29:49  <Stablean> <travstr> i mean that curve alone needed me to clear have of the town
01:29:57  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i am looking how
01:30:15  <Stablean> <Anson> exactly, that is what i meant
01:30:27  <Stablean> <travstr> well thanks :p
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01:30:41  <Stablean> <travstr> also if you noticed that weird movement in the tracks just below darninghall
01:30:47  <Stablean> <travstr> it was because there was an industry there
01:30:49  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
01:30:55  <Stablean> <Anson> it barely uses more space, but is much faster when you have fast trains
01:31:05  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i see
01:31:13  <Stablean> <bon> travstr here's a weird one... diesel locomotive named Splut ....
01:31:33  <Stablean> <travstr> ok that IS weird
01:31:35  <Stablean> <bon> why? because of some crappy idle ratio soon as you shut off throttle the engine dies .... 0_o
01:31:35  <Stablean> <travstr> bbut why?
01:31:49  <Stablean> <travstr> oh loll
01:31:51  <Stablean> <Anson> the train now goes with 132 instead of only 88
01:32:06  <Stablean> <travstr> yes i see :D
01:32:08  <Stablean> <bon> I hope they removed that nickname in a short tim tho..because I can't imagine such locomotive going dead on a mainline so often
01:32:10  <Stablean> <travstr> good boost
01:32:13  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:32:23  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah that wouldn't make me want to use it lol
01:32:42  <Stablean> <bon> travstr here is something slight opposite...
01:33:05  <Stablean> <bon> one of the late diesel-electric locomotive was named Tug because...well... they had a lot of hp but they were rather slow!
01:33:08  <Stablean> <Anson> if you follow that line east, there soon is another such tight curve with cl 0.5 ... only 1 dot need to be raised to make a better CL
01:33:14  <Stablean> <bon> at least they could haul anything except kitchen sink
01:33:14  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:34:05  <Stablean> <Anson> exactly that location ... but you only needed to raise one single dot, not the entire edge of the hill
01:34:12  <Stablean> <travstr> meh
01:34:14  <Stablean> <travstr> looks nicer
01:34:24  <Stablean> <travstr> plus the trains don't need to go down then back up again
01:34:43  <Stablean> <Anson> even with high TF costs, you can most often spend money to raise one dot
01:35:06  <Stablean> <travstr> i have 54mil, i think i'm okay with TF costs
01:35:08  <Stablean> <travstr> :p
01:35:30  <Stablean> <bon> btw I decided to do a bit of double-kissing just for fun :)
01:35:34  <Stablean> <bon> train 23 :P
01:35:58  <Stablean> <travstr> ooo
01:36:00  <Stablean> <travstr> interesting
01:36:10  <Stablean> <bon> yeah...kiss on front .. kiss on rear
01:36:13  <Stablean> <bon> can you call that a double kiss?
01:36:15  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:36:25  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
01:36:31  <Stablean> <travstr> i keep forgetting you can do that :o
01:36:35  <Stablean> <bon> heh
01:36:37  <Stablean> <Anson> do you see Slonwood ?
01:36:51  <Stablean> <travstr> me?
01:36:53  <Stablean> <travstr> or bon
01:37:04  <Stablean> <Anson> still speaking of tight red curves :-)
01:37:14  <Stablean> <bon> you travstr
01:37:16  <Stablean> <bon> that city isn't on my island!
01:37:18  <Stablean> <travstr> do you mean slarnwell
01:37:37  <Stablean> <Anson> red company is there !
01:37:39  <Stablean> <travstr> ohhh ok
01:37:41  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...signed :p
01:38:04  <Stablean> <travstr> ty lol
01:38:10  <Stablean> <Anson> nono ... not that much TF needed
01:38:20  <Stablean> <bon> let him waste money
01:38:22  <Stablean> <bon> we both have too much!
01:38:28  <Stablean> <bon> hehehe
01:38:34  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
01:38:36  <Stablean> <Anson> just split the rail at the 45 degree corner 3 tiles to the south
01:38:42  <Stablean> <travstr> what can i do instead then
01:39:09  <Stablean> <Anson> since the rail arrives at a 45 degree angle, you only need 45 more degrees to turn downhill
01:39:47  <Stablean> <travstr> ?
01:39:49  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...wait one sec...
01:39:55  <Stablean> <Anson> right at the 45 degree turn, turn 45 more degrees and then downhill
01:39:59  <Stablean> <Anson> or like this now
01:40:05  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...mind let me join you for a sec?
01:40:15  <Stablean> <travstr> ok lo
01:40:37  <Stablean> <bon> (pw?)
01:40:45  <Stablean> <travstr> how do i take the password off
01:40:51  <Stablean> <Anson> if you build with the landscape, lots of smooth curves can be made instead of just going 2x45 degrees
01:40:53  <Stablean> <bon> just enter it as a blank
01:40:55  <Stablean> <travstr> pw is lol
01:40:58  <Stablean> <bon> ok
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01:41:00  <Stablean> <travstr> oh okay nvm
01:41:08  <Stablean> <bon> now watch for a sec...
01:41:26  <Stablean> <bon> like that now
01:41:33  <Stablean> <travstr> very good lol
01:41:43  <Stablean> <bon> not sure if thats what anson meant but thats what I would had done!
01:41:49  <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #8
01:42:05  <Stablean> <bon> hope it helped for now anson
01:42:08  <Stablean> <travstr> cheers ^^
01:43:18  <Stablean> <Anson> another hint, travstr : look at signals .... eg at Hefingpool Bridge Heights ...
01:43:45  <Stablean> <travstr> oh yah
01:43:51  <Stablean> <travstr> that station is unused tho
01:44:19  <Stablean> <bon> your junction next to Darninghall seem rather weird to me too
01:44:26  <Stablean> <bon> why do you need that whole circle :-s
01:44:44  <Stablean> <travstr> in order to get across my tracks
01:44:50  <Stablean> <travstr> smoothly
01:44:56  <Stablean> <travstr> well just at all
01:45:11  <Stablean> <bon> I woul had moved it to other side of the town .. no need for circles by then
01:45:13  <Stablean> <bon> but ehhh
01:45:24  <Stablean> <travstr> no the land is awkward there
01:45:32  <Stablean> <travstr> plus the other guy's tracks
01:45:34  <Stablean> <travstr> lets not forget
01:45:48  <Stablean> <Anson> unused stations cost money for maintenance, lower the nearby cities's reputation for you, you are not welcome to build sometjing else there (the authorities hate you when a station is not used for a long time) and you need to build more complicated rails (what was just changed, with a bridge, additional curves, etc)
01:46:22  <Stablean> <bon> mm I think it'll be better to let anson deal with your things..I'm going off shortly
01:46:32  <Stablean> <Anson> it is not very probably that there will sonn be a useful resource next to that station ?! thus remove the unused station if you have no plans for it
01:46:32  <Stablean> <bon> will just have to leave the mines for tomorrow but ah well..getting close to completing things tho :)
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01:47:01  <Stablean> <travstr> bb then bon :>
01:47:05  <Stablean> <travstr> okay anson well...
01:47:12  <Stablean> <travstr> anything else you notice?
01:48:16  <Stablean> <Anson> you have lots of ugly crossings
01:48:38  <Stablean> <Anson> and when the network gets more crowded, they easily can cause jams and deadlocks
01:48:40  <Stablean> <travstr> um, ok
01:48:54  <Stablean> <Anson> like at waypoint Drundhattan #2
01:49:04  <Stablean> <travstr> i think i know where you mean
01:49:06  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah...
01:49:12  <Stablean> <travstr> but i have no choice really
01:49:47  <Stablean> <bon> anson can I ask you for comment on a rather dumb simple something?  (can't hurt heh)
01:50:34  <Stablean> <Anson> if you have to build such crossings, and even though it will increase signal gaps, you should leave enough space behind such crossings to make suire that trains will never enter the direct area of the crossing and block other trains there
01:51:32  <Stablean> <Anson> you can ask everything ... then you'll see whether you get a (good) answer :-)
01:51:42  <Stablean> <bon> heh ok...
01:52:12  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, yesterday, someone wrote "can i ask a question?" and got the reply "yes, you just did" :-)
01:52:18  <Stablean> <bon> ha...
01:54:12  <Stablean> <bon> I signed with your name
01:54:24  <Stablean> <bon> what turned out to be a straight rail became a triangle+1 junction
01:54:31  <Stablean> <bon> not sure I like it as it is but ehh I guess it works
01:54:33  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:56:39  <Stablean> <bon> but anyway I'm going to bed now..if you want replace these signs with some remarks of your own .. go ahead
01:56:41  <Stablean> <bon> and travstr have fun :p
01:56:47  <Stablean> <travstr> bb bon :>
01:56:49  <Stablean> <Anson> that triangle doesn't look bad
01:57:00  <Stablean> <Anson> but you should watch the signal gaps
01:57:08  <Stablean> <bon> thanks...I tried to keep a lot of broad curves etc
01:57:18  <Stablean> <bon> yeah the signals..I need to remember that if I keep adding more trains
01:57:18  <Stablean> <Anson> it is most useful to put signals directly before and after a split
01:57:20  <Stablean> <bon> its pretty light traffic now
01:57:30  <Stablean> <bon> anyway zzz now .. see you two again tomorrow?
01:57:44  <Stablean> <travstr> bb :>
01:57:50  <Stablean> <travstr> i suppose lol
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01:58:34  <Stablean> <Anson> best signal gap is to use the signal spacing of 2 and let the game place signals ... just put down one signal and then drag in the direction where you want signals
01:58:48  <Stablean> <travstr> hmm
01:58:55  <Stablean> <Anson> the game will place signals with the given signal spacing up to the next junction
01:59:18  <Stablean> <Anson> the spacing is set by changing the number in the bottom right of the signal gui
01:59:28  <Stablean> <travstr> i knew that ;)
02:00:10  <Stablean> <Anson> that still applied to bon who left while i typed :-)
02:00:17  <Stablean> <travstr> lol :p
02:01:56  <Stablean> <Anson> trav ... where you just edited the entry to a station ...
02:02:18  <Stablean> <Anson> trains coing from south won't be able to get to the first platform ... there is a 90 degree curve
02:02:37  <Stablean> <travstr> ruh roh
02:02:55  <Stablean> <travstr> hmmm
02:03:06  <Stablean> <travstr> well only trains coming from the north exit can enter there
02:03:18  <Stablean> <travstr> which isn't convenient obviously.
02:03:36  <Stablean> <travstr> also is the path signals before the station good?
02:03:39  <Stablean> <Anson> it is bad, but if space is tight wouldn't hurt too much when used with PBS
02:03:45  <Stablean> <travstr> i wasn't sure what to do
02:04:16  <Stablean> <Anson> if you build with presignals, it would cause problems since the entry signal would think that there is a destination, but then trains can't go there and get stuck
02:04:34  <Stablean> <travstr> hm ye
02:06:00  <Stablean> <travstr> can't really solve this issue
02:06:00  <Stablean> <Anson> that's the problem with long trains and slow loading times ...
02:06:10  <Stablean> <travstr> well it's working okay, ish
02:06:29  <Stablean> <Anson> long trains need long stations, and ong loading times need more platforms
02:06:51  <Stablean> <Anson> one solution to the problem : move the first few platforms west
02:06:51  <Stablean> <travstr> meeeeh
02:07:01  <Stablean> <travstr> no space
02:07:07  <Stablean> <Anson> stations in OTTD don't need to be rectangles :-)
02:07:25  <Stablean> <travstr> i know but
02:07:27  <Stablean> <travstr> no space
02:07:57  <Stablean> <Anson> you also don't need the 1way path signals at the station ... that would give one more space
02:08:00  <Stablean> <travstr> as you may not be able to see my island 'buddy' has built tunnels
02:08:12  <Stablean> <travstr> why not :o
02:08:18  <Stablean> <travstr> oh yeh
02:08:28  <Stablean> <travstr> BUT what can I do with the space
02:08:50  <Stablean> <Anson> with the signals, trains turn and then wait at that signal ... without them, trains wait for a free path first and then turn
02:09:12  <Stablean> <Anson> with that space, you could add a curve at the entrance
02:09:32  <Stablean> <Anson> instead of the impossible 90 degree turn
02:09:35  <Stablean> <travstr> but then
02:09:42  <Stablean> <travstr> lol wat
02:09:52  <Stablean> <travstr> that makes it worse
02:10:00  <Stablean> <travstr> do i not understand?
02:10:02  <Stablean> <travstr> wtf
02:10:28  <Stablean> <Anson> may i join ? ... it is hard to explain in words, and there is no more company slot available to join and put up a sign ...
02:10:42  <Stablean> <travstr> sure
02:10:42  <Stablean> <travstr> :p
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02:11:33  <Stablean> <travstr> i turned it off
02:11:35  <Stablean> <iCookRice> hey guys
02:11:35  <Stablean> <travstr> you should be in?
02:11:41  <Stablean> <travstr> o
02:11:52  <Stablean> <travstr> hey
02:12:06  <Stablean> <iCookRice> are you guys pro train people
02:12:12  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm not lol
02:12:47  <Stablean> <Anson> ProTrain ... the train simulator ?
02:12:53  <Stablean> <iCookRice> no lol
02:12:59  <Stablean> <iCookRice> rails on ottd
02:13:01  <Stablean> <iCookRice> this game
02:13:03  <Stablean> <iCookRice> =P
02:13:34  <Stablean> <Anson> i play for some time, and learned a lot, but far from the real "professionals" :-)
02:13:44  <Stablean> <iCookRice> well maybe i have a fun puzzle for you
02:13:54  <Stablean> <iCookRice> see if you might have an answer
02:14:10  <Stablean> <iCookRice> i like to just make massive contained rail tracks right
02:14:16  <Stablean> <iCookRice> like all connected of course
02:14:22  <Stablean> <iCookRice> and i primarily deliver pax only
02:14:29  <Stablean> <iCookRice> not to city build, but to get as many trains on a track as possible
02:14:31  <Stablean> <iCookRice> kind of thing
02:14:41  <Stablean> <iCookRice> and i also don't like giving trains orders
02:14:59  <Stablean> <iCookRice> i like making it all happen by lights, and stopping at stations based on whether or not a train is already there and whatnot
02:15:01  <Stablean> <iCookRice> so that's kind of fun
02:15:09  <Stablean> <iCookRice> so here's the puzzle
02:15:27  <Stablean> <iCookRice> i want train #1 to go left at an intersection
02:15:31  <Stablean> <iCookRice> and train #2 to go right
02:15:37  <Stablean> <iCookRice> and #3 to go left
02:15:39  <Stablean> <iCookRice> etc...
02:15:59  <Stablean> <iCookRice> any ideas on alternating paths, no matter the gap between trains>
02:16:06  <Stablean> <travstr> anson
02:16:16  <Stablean> <travstr> without the second path signals everything gets backed up
02:16:22  <Stablean> <travstr> sooooooooo ya
02:16:32  <Stablean> <Anson> look at the public server ... the current game has steel trains that have one order only, and a flipflop logic switches them to go left/right/left/right ....
02:16:48  <Stablean> <iCookRice> okay
02:16:51  <Stablean> <iCookRice> be right back
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02:17:17  <Stablean> <iCookRice> it's passworded?
02:17:43  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, you should join irc and look at the website
02:17:51  <Stablean> <Anson> but just have a look at the wiki
02:18:05  <Stablean> <Anson> there are lots ofexamples and old savegames
02:18:19  <Stablean> <Anson>
02:19:13  <Stablean> <Anson> trav : you see that it was easy to make the platforms longer ?
02:19:23  <Stablean> <travstr> i was going to do that
02:19:25  <Stablean> <travstr> BUT
02:19:29  <Stablean> <travstr> i didn't want to
02:19:31  <Stablean> <Anson> now they have a little braking space and thus the next train can enter earlier
02:19:37  <Stablean> <travstr> plus it looks goofy now :D
02:19:47  <Stablean> <travstr> LOL
02:20:17  <Stablean> <Anson> by removing the 1way pbs, you got another tile free
02:20:40  <Stablean> <Anson> if you make the stations 1 tile shorter again, you even get 2 free tiles to do other connections and routing
02:20:56  <Stablean> <Anson> and always be careful when removing signals :-)
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02:21:35  <Stablean> <Anson> all those 1way PBS really are NOT needed
02:21:49  <Stablean> <travstr> but the trains wait so long :(
02:21:51  <Stablean> <travstr> it's sad
02:21:57  <Stablean> <Anson> they are only useful in special situations (and this is none of them)
02:22:13  <Stablean> <Anson> or when the platforms are much longer than the trains and you want to speed it up
02:22:31  <Stablean> <travstr> okay :(
02:22:39  <Stablean> <Anson> trains wait long ? you mean the loading times ?
02:22:49  <Stablean> <travstr> no
02:23:00  <Stablean> <travstr> the only path signal i can fit in is before the first bridge
02:23:08  <Stablean> <travstr> so there is a lot of trains backed up
02:23:30  <Stablean> <Anson> you use the same station for dropping paper and picking up goods ?
02:23:36  <Stablean> <travstr> SPACE
02:23:40  <Stablean> <travstr> S P A C E
02:23:46  <Stablean> <travstr> where do you see the other station lol
02:24:20  <Stablean> <Anson> general rule : always give each type of cargo its own station for pickup
02:24:28  <Stablean> <travstr> I know I know
02:24:42  <Stablean> <travstr> I did it over near Hunfingwell
02:24:48  <Stablean> <travstr> but S P A C E is not T H E R E
02:24:51  <Stablean> <Anson> for drop, it doesn't matter, but for pickup, you should separete it, so that you can build overflows etc etc
02:26:15  <Stablean> <travstr> sigh
02:26:21  <Stablean> <travstr> i don't have time for that kind of stuff
02:26:23  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm a noob
02:28:01  <Stablean> <travstr> ew entry signals
02:28:03  <Stablean> <travstr> my worst emeny
02:28:09  <Stablean> <travstr> enemy even LOL
02:29:28  <Stablean> <travstr> nooo :(
02:29:34  <Stablean> <travstr> um yeh
02:29:36  <Stablean> <travstr> wtf
02:30:48  <Stablean> <travstr> what is the depot for
02:31:02  <Stablean> <travstr> omg sigh
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02:32:57  <Stablean> <travstr> OMG ANSON WTF
02:33:12  <Stablean> <travstr> i literally am seeing everything fall
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02:33:47  <Stablean> <Diablo> Whats up
02:33:58  <Stablean> <travstr> my network is up
02:34:04  <Stablean> <travstr> or currently down.
02:34:06  <Stablean> <Anson> goods now have their own station
02:34:12  <Stablean> <Diablo> lol nice cities i have
02:34:12  <Stablean> <travstr> but yeah i managed to get around the space
02:34:14  <Stablean> <Anson> and even an overflow
02:34:14  <Stablean> <travstr> lol.
02:34:34  <Stablean> <travstr> um ok
02:35:04  <Stablean> <travstr> but wha about the 800 crates of goods at bridge woods :*
02:35:07  <Stablean> <Anson> ah, bad exit
02:35:10  <Stablean> <Diablo> any new cool trains?
02:35:44  <Stablean> <travstr> what are the block signals for
02:35:47  <Stablean> <travstr> in front of the station
02:35:54  <Stablean> <travstr> wtf for real
02:36:09  <Stablean> <travstr> um anson
02:36:15  <Stablean> <travstr> thanks and everything, but...
02:36:22  <Stablean> <travstr> the goods are piling up in the wrong station
02:36:26  <Stablean> <travstr> and everything is getting lost
02:36:28  <Stablean> <travstr> and i don't need it
02:36:38  <Stablean> <Anson> now trains will go to the overflow depot instead of blocking the station and the network
02:36:58  <Stablean> <travstr> lol goods are still going to both
02:37:04  <Stablean> <travstr> listen, thanks but no thanks
02:37:10  <Stablean> <travstr> FUCKING HELL
02:37:28  <Stablean> <Diablo> lol the monorail sux
02:37:30  <Stablean> <Anson> to undo it, you may not only change the signals
02:37:33  <Stablean> <Diablo> 110speed for 7.5 tiles
02:37:48  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm going back to my previous setup
02:37:51  <Stablean> <travstr> and i don't care
02:37:57  <Stablean> <Anson> if you want, i can do that
02:38:09  <Stablean> <Anson> but you will get the old problem of jammed network
02:39:08  <Stablean> <Anson> the new version had separate stations for paper drop and goods pickup, and all additional goods trains would wait in the depot instead of waiting on the network and blocking it
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02:41:18  <Stablean> <Diablo> diesel power train <3
02:41:26  <Stablean> <travstr> <.<
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02:41:51  <Stablean> <Diablo> do u use diesel power?
02:41:57  <Stablean> <Diablo> i just switched
02:42:49  <Stablean> <Anson> now you have the old setip again, including the old problem of trains jamming the network and maybe even deadlocking
02:43:00  <Stablean> <travstr> yep.
02:43:02  <Stablean> <Diablo> where are u talking about+
02:43:04  <Stablean> <travstr> and i like it that way
02:43:22  <Stablean> <Anson> you like jams and deadlocks ?
02:43:28  <Stablean> <Anson> i don't
02:43:34  <Stablean> <Diablo> where is it?
02:43:53  <Stablean> <Anson> station Little Mafingbourne Bridge Woods
02:43:55  <Stablean> <travstr> it was all fine
02:44:11  <Stablean> <Diablo> what about it?
02:44:49  <Stablean> <Anson> one single station for paper drop AND goods pickup, thus trains blocked each other and it was slow
02:45:27  <Stablean> <travstr> the 'main problem' was caused by all this moving on shit
02:45:33  <Stablean> <travstr> i realise this
02:46:40  <Stablean> <Anson> the main problem is that you inload paper at the same station that picks up the goods
02:47:02  <Stablean> <travstr> i know this
02:47:05  <Stablean> <travstr> you keep saying
02:47:11  <Stablean> <travstr> my point is it wasn't a problem
02:47:13  <Stablean> <travstr> and now it is
02:47:15  <Stablean> <travstr> i wonder why
02:47:39  <Stablean> <Anson> with 5 goods trains waiting at the 5 platforms, there is no platform free to unload paper and thus you have a deadlock which blocks everything
02:47:41  <Stablean> <travstr> and you keep forgetting also
02:47:59  <Stablean> <travstr> you keep forgetting I have no space to do anything of value to help
02:49:27  <Stablean> <Anson> with the space of three platforms, you can have one station for pickup (with 2 platforms and a reverser for an overflow depot)
02:49:41  <Stablean> <Anson> and the other two platforms remain as paper drop
02:49:47  <Stablean> <travstr> or then again no
02:49:49  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm fine
02:50:19  <Stablean> <Anson> loading times and only 2 platforms might be a little problem, but you never would get a block of the entire network because of deadlocks
02:50:54  <Stablean> <travstr> an exit to where
02:50:57  <Stablean> <travstr> to nowhere
02:51:03  <Stablean> <Diablo> to where they are going?
02:51:05  <Stablean> <travstr> space space space space
02:51:13  <Stablean> <travstr> they're going all sorts of places
02:52:47  <Stablean> <Anson> the big problem is that now, there are 4 trains waiting for goods, thus blocking 4 of 5 platforms
02:53:01  <Stablean> <Diablo> why are u using full load?
02:53:16  <Stablean> <Anson> and all paper can only be delivered to one platform ... and if a fifth goods train waits, everything is deadlocked
02:53:50  <Stablean> <travstr> it was full load because everthing was FINE
02:54:04  <Stablean> <travstr> fyi there's also wood being picked up :')
02:54:54  <Stablean> <Anson> pickup of wood, pickup of goods, drop of paper ... all on one station = programmed chaos and deadlock
02:55:00  <Stablean> <travstr> it worked before
02:55:02  <Stablean> <travstr> sooooo
02:55:05  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
02:55:08  <Stablean> <travstr> listen okay i'm a noob
02:55:14  <Stablean> <travstr> i just get by
02:55:26  <Stablean> <travstr> if you want you can save the map and do it your own way offline
02:55:40  <Stablean> <Anson> it didn't ... it can't have ... unless you had max 4 trains for goods plus wood
02:55:54  <Stablean> <travstr> no it was perfectly fine
02:56:02  <Stablean> <travstr> you see, the spacing between the paper and the goods was fine
02:56:20  <Stablean> <Anson> what spacing ?
02:56:26  <Stablean> <travstr> more paper and a closer distance vs lots of goods going further
02:56:32  <Stablean> <travstr> meant more paper would always come in and goods out
02:56:38  <Stablean> <travstr> as you see now
02:56:41  <Stablean> <Diablo> can i join please and change something
02:56:47  <Stablean> <travstr> no
02:56:51  <Stablean> <Diablo> k
02:57:05  <Stablean> <Diablo> then fuck it :)
02:57:08  <Stablean> <travstr> :)
02:57:14  <Stablean> <travstr> fuck it indeed
02:57:45  <Stablean> <travstr> so yes
02:57:47  <Stablean> <travstr> it does work
02:57:53  <Stablean> <travstr> thank you very much
02:58:08  <Stablean> <Anson> when you rely on timing, distances and similar, you can be lucky for some time, but sooner or later it will not stay in sync and be messed up, causing deadlocks
02:58:23  <Stablean> <travstr> i'll take my chances :'>
02:58:53  <Stablean> <Diablo> put statue in little mafing
02:58:56  <Stablean> <Diablo> will help a bit
02:59:06  <Stablean> <travstr> lol why
02:59:12  <Stablean> <travstr> i will anyway but why
02:59:14  <Stablean> <Diablo> statue = 10% more cargo
02:59:18  <Stablean> <travstr> o
02:59:22  <Stablean> <travstr> swerve
02:59:40  <Stablean> <Diablo> so you should have statues everywhere u use cargo
02:59:43  <Stablean> <Anson> statues in towns result in 10% increased station rating
03:00:13  <Stablean> <Diablo> and station rating means % cargo :>
03:00:55  <Stablean> <Anson> from faster trains and less waiting cargo, you also get % for station rating
03:01:21  <Stablean> <Diablo> thats why u should use diesel power
03:01:31  <Stablean> <Anson> and with higher ratings, the probabbility will be bigger that production is increased on primaries
03:01:41  <Stablean> <Diablo> ye
03:01:59  <Stablean> <Diablo> but thats not an issue as its cramped with trains waiting for cargo
03:02:00  <Stablean> <Diablo> :D
03:02:15  <Stablean> <Anson> very useful at the beginning when you want  production to raise from the low 40 or 80 at the start ...
03:02:25  <Stablean> <Diablo> which?
03:02:28  <Stablean> <Diablo> statue?
03:02:42  <Stablean> <Anson> but also can be an annoyance when you get 2000+ production in the end and can only transport a fraction ...
03:02:57  <Stablean> <Diablo> well u can always make a new station
03:02:59  <Stablean> <Anson> and remember : statues can never be removed when you once have bult them
03:03:09  <Stablean> <Diablo> why would u want to remove statue :>
03:03:15  <Stablean> <Diablo> when u payed heaps for em :D
03:03:47  <Stablean> <Diablo> lol
03:03:54  <Stablean> <Diablo> i see many stuff i funded
03:03:56  <Stablean> <Diablo> is removed
03:04:10  <Stablean> <Diablo> the wood on Naningstone-on-sea
03:04:12  <Stablean> <Diablo> is still left though
03:04:30  <Stablean> <Anson> in my games, my networks always start jamming around the year 2100, when most productions increase from 1000 to 2000 and there is too much cargo to transport
03:04:49  <Stablean> <Diablo> well i never play that long
03:05:03  <Stablean> <Diablo> i usualy play goal games
03:05:17  <Stablean> <travstr> oh gee look
03:05:19  <Stablean> <Anson> i would like increased production at the start, maybe 200-400 instead of 20-80 ... and in the end only 1000 instead of 2000
03:05:19  <Stablean> <travstr> my station work perfectly
03:05:21  <Stablean> <travstr> lmaooo
03:05:32  <Stablean> <Diablo> the double entrance is silly
03:05:38  <Stablean> <Diablo> it should be double exit
03:05:38  <Stablean> <travstr> you're silly
03:05:42  <Stablean> <Diablo> and one entrance
03:05:42  <Stablean> <travstr> it is double exit
03:05:48  <Stablean> <Diablo> no it is one exit on left side
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03:05:54  <Stablean> <Diablo> should be on both sides
03:05:58  <Stablean> <travstr> no it's two exits
03:06:04  <Stablean> <travstr> do you not understand
03:06:06  <Stablean> <Diablo> yes but they remain the same
03:06:12  <Stablean> <travstr> what are you talking about lmao
03:06:18  <Stablean> <Diablo> as trains from right side will block everything
03:06:24  <Stablean> <Diablo> so = 1 exit
03:06:26  <Stablean> <travstr> no
03:06:32  <Stablean> <travstr> did you not see that?
03:06:34  <Stablean> <Diablo> are you blind?
03:06:36  <Stablean> <travstr> just then?
03:06:39  <Stablean> <travstr> Are YOU?
03:06:45  <Stablean> <Diablo> too few trains not to even matter
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03:06:49  <Stablean> <travstr> i just watched two trains leave at the same time
03:06:51  <Stablean> <travstr> lol whatever bye
03:06:53  <Stablean> <Diablo> now*
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03:07:27  <Stablean> <travstr> anyway where would the exit go
03:07:29  <Stablean> <travstr> jesus
03:07:31  <Stablean> <travstr> S P A C E
03:07:37  <Stablean> <Diablo> remove the bridge
03:07:39  <Stablean> <Diablo> and u got space
03:07:49  <Stablean> <travstr> the bridge is where the trains enter
03:07:52  <Stablean> <travstr> silly
03:07:55  <Stablean> <Diablo> no
03:08:09  <Stablean> <Anson> the woods pickup could be on the other side (east)
03:08:36  <Stablean> <Diablo> you could put station at the top for woods
03:08:42  <Stablean> <Diablo> and the one that is now could be paper
03:08:44  <Stablean> <travstr> where
03:08:55  <Stablean> <travstr> mhmhm
03:09:07  <Stablean> <Diablo> what u mean exit
03:09:09  <Stablean> <Diablo> that is not an exit
03:09:19  <Stablean> <Diablo> check the path signal plz
03:09:25  <Stablean> <travstr> i meant to do an arrow xo
03:09:35  <Stablean> <travstr> it's pointing to the exits
03:09:41  <Stablean> <travstr> lmaoooo
03:09:48  <Stablean> <Diablo> its pointing at a joining path signal
03:10:19  <Stablean> <travstr> watch
03:10:21  <Stablean> <travstr> two exit
03:10:23  <Stablean> <Anson> if i counted correctly, at that SPACE sign, there would be enough space to do a few platforms for goods pickup
03:10:23  <Stablean> <travstr> lol bye
03:10:45  <Stablean> <travstr> paper and goods leave at the same time
03:10:48  <Stablean> <Diablo> also the path signals on station side is unnecessary
03:10:54  <Stablean> <Diablo> as station = path signal itself
03:10:56  <Stablean> <Anson> at least 2 platforms for goods pickup and an overflow
03:11:42  <Stablean> <Anson> diablo, i already told him that the signals are not needed and he can get more space by removing them, but he just likes them
03:11:54  <Stablean> <travstr> you did not say that
03:11:56  <Stablean> <Diablo> sure :)
03:12:02  <Stablean> <travstr> he means the signals in front of the station
03:12:08  <Stablean> <travstr> you meant the ones in front of the entrances
03:12:16  <Stablean> <travstr> so yeah, 'sure :)'
03:12:18  <Stablean> <Diablo> ehm..
03:12:28  <Stablean> <Diablo> u always need path signal on entrance
03:12:31  <Stablean> <Diablo> else it becomes a block
03:12:35  <Stablean> <travstr> oh we finally agree
03:12:37  <Stablean> <Diablo> which is 1 train only
03:12:39  <Stablean> <travstr> interesting
03:12:58  <Stablean> <travstr> and this is my point
03:13:04  <Stablean> <travstr> it backs up the whole thing for no reason
03:13:10  <Stablean> <travstr> anyways whatever
03:13:12  <Stablean> <Diablo> still u could put a new station up top
03:13:15  <Stablean> <Anson> scroll back in IRC by one hour ...
03:13:17  <Stablean> <travstr> i could
03:13:51  <Stablean> <travstr> problem is to stop the wood going to bridge woods i'd need to delete it
03:13:53  <Stablean> <travstr> which i'm not doing
03:13:55  <Stablean> <travstr> so no
03:14:01  <Stablean> <Diablo> eh?
03:14:03  <Stablean> <travstr> but it's a great idea
03:14:05  <Stablean> <Anson> i said "by removing the 1way pbs you get another tile free"
03:14:05  <Stablean> <Diablo> u have shared orders
03:14:08  <Stablean> <Diablo> takes one sec to fix a new order
03:14:14  <Stablean> <travstr> no the wood outputs to bridge woods
03:14:16  <Stablean> <travstr> i can't change that
03:14:22  <Stablean> <Diablo> u make new station
03:14:28  <Stablean> <Diablo> and put new order to go there
03:14:28  <Stablean> <travstr> anson i know
03:14:34  <Stablean> <travstr> but you are talking about these ones
03:14:48  <Stablean> <Diablo> you can also just move the station to top
03:14:50  <Stablean> <travstr> he means those ones
03:14:52  <Stablean> <Diablo> with that name
03:14:59  <Stablean> <travstr> yes but then i can't access the printing works
03:15:02  <Stablean> <travstr> or whatevr it's called
03:15:12  <Stablean> <Diablo> let me check
03:15:39  <Stablean> <Anson> and "all those 1way PBS are really NOT needed"
03:15:45  <Stablean> <travstr> they are
03:15:55  <Stablean> <travstr> because then the whole system gets blocked for NO REASON
03:16:06  <Stablean> <travstr> this way the trains flow in to both entrances and both enter the station
03:16:22  <Stablean> <travstr> if there's one pbs then only one goes in and only when the path is clear
03:16:24  <Stablean> <travstr> so no
03:16:30  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm not listening.
03:16:48  <Stablean> <Diablo> as u can see it works to reach paper
03:16:54  <Stablean> <travstr> turn it round
03:16:54  <Stablean> <Diablo> u just move the rails a bit
03:17:04  <Stablean> <travstr> then make it work so i can fit everything
03:17:14  <Stablean> <Diablo> i have no access
03:17:18  <Stablean> <travstr> i mean
03:17:20  <Stablean> <travstr> from there
03:17:34  <Stablean> <travstr> since i'd need space for trains to exit and and enter
03:17:40  <Stablean> <Diablo> with ease
03:17:43  <Stablean> <travstr> yes
03:18:03  <Stablean> <Anson> the pbs at "there" are not needed ... as i said earlier : instead of turning and waiting for a free path (with them), trains would wait for a free path and then turn (without them) ... a difference of max 0.0001 seconds, if at all
03:18:09  <Stablean> <travstr> you thought i was joking when i said i'd make it work in this tight space
03:18:12  <Stablean> <travstr> but nopeeeeee
03:18:28  <Stablean> <Diablo> ure just stubborn :)
03:18:39  <Stablean> <travstr> let's say persistent
03:18:42  <Stablean> <travstr> ;)
03:19:40  <Stablean> <travstr> that's not what you said before
03:19:42  <Stablean> <travstr> but okay
03:20:20  <Stablean> <travstr> so you're saying that works fine?
03:20:22  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
03:20:24  <Stablean> <Anson> scroll back in chat and you can read that i said just that, in several variations
03:20:32  <Stablean> <Diablo> webbing like that never works fine
03:20:34  <Stablean> <travstr> you said the one way pbs
03:20:37  <Stablean> <travstr> those pbs were not one way
03:20:39  <Stablean> <Diablo> as u have no control what line the trains will take
03:20:39  <Stablean> <travstr> sooooo
03:20:46  <Stablean> <Diablo> so they will block entering trains
03:21:13  <Stablean> <Anson> 2way pbs, of course ... but the signals at the station were not needed in any case
03:21:27  <Stablean> <travstr> so you were in the wrong
03:21:29  <Stablean> <travstr> okay that's all i wanted to know
03:21:40  <Stablean> <travstr> so at 'here' are those needed
03:21:51  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm saying yes and sticking with it but i want to hear your opinion
03:22:21  <Stablean> <Anson> i always spoke of the signals directly at the platforms ... no matter whether i named them 1way or 2way
03:22:51  <Stablean> <Diablo> can u make that new station top
03:22:53  <Stablean> <travstr> oh my god
03:23:05  <Stablean> <travstr> oops
03:23:11  <Stablean> <travstr> wait which way is best
03:23:37  <Stablean> <Diablo> ah ure making the wood?
03:23:40  <Stablean> <Diablo> thought u were making paper
03:23:54  <Stablean> <Anson> for paper pickup, there is only enough space for 2 platforms, directly next to the existing east/west track ... if station spread is 12
03:23:57  <Stablean> <travstr> no
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03:24:48  <Stablean> <travstr> what do you mean
03:24:50  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
03:24:52  <Stablean> <Anson> diablo : the station currently is for wood AND paper AND goods :-)
03:24:56  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Iamgoofball
03:25:01  <Stablean> <travstr> hey goofball
03:25:15  <Stablean> *** Iamgoofball has joined company #14
03:25:19  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Hey.
03:25:29  <Stablean> <travstr> fyi you can change your nickname from the multiplayer menu
03:25:35  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Ah.
03:25:45  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Oh god, go look at Pledham
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03:25:57  <Stablean> <travstr> o nice
03:25:59  <Stablean> <travstr> :o
03:25:59  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> It was a 1000 person town when I started all this
03:26:01  <Stablean> <travstr> whoa
03:26:07  <Stablean> <Diablo> ehm..
03:26:13  <Stablean> <Diablo> thats small compare to mine
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03:26:21  <Stablean> <travstr> i was waiting for you to compare your city
03:26:21  <Stablean> <Diablo> check brennway
03:26:23  <Stablean> <travstr> but whatever
03:26:29  <Stablean> <Diablo> and wardston
03:26:40  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Oi
03:26:50  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
03:26:53  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Who stuck randumb bits of track all over my nice city?
03:26:59  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> And dug a whole bunch?
03:27:15  <Stablean> <travstr> um sorry
03:27:17  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Thanks.
03:27:24  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> No problem.
03:27:34  <Stablean> <travstr> it was when anson disconnected and i think i was in the middle of making something
03:27:36  <Stablean> <Diablo> monorial is so silly
03:27:42  <Stablean> <Diablo> the more wagons the lower speed
03:27:42  <Stablean> <travstr> so i scroll the camera and the game froze
03:28:17  <Stablean> <Anson> that's why that option usually is disabled ... it serves only to annoy and disrupt other players
03:28:26  <Stablean> <travstr> x)
03:28:37  <Stablean> <travstr> i couldn't resist i'm sorry
03:29:07  <Stablean> <Diablo> why arent u using 211 train?
03:29:13  <Stablean> <travstr> whoa
03:29:15  <Stablean> <travstr> who*
03:29:15  <Stablean> <Diablo> 160 kmh is so slow
03:29:57  <Stablean> <Anson> what shall the Valley station do ?
03:30:03  <Stablean> <travstr> idk yet
03:30:06  <Stablean> <travstr> wood pickup probably
03:30:09  <Stablean> <travstr> but i dunno
03:30:19  <Stablean> <travstr> i kinda like it as it is
03:30:22  <Stablean> <Anson> i think that it might be a bit too distant to the paper factory with station spready 12
03:30:36  <Stablean> <travstr> o shit ty.
03:30:43  <Stablean> <travstr> it's only for picking up wood
03:30:49  <Stablean> <travstr> it doesn't drop anything
03:31:03  <Stablean> <travstr> that happens later once the paper is here
03:31:37  <Stablean> <Diablo> maybe its time to............
03:31:39  <Stablean> <Diablo> fund! :D
03:31:45  <Stablean> <travstr> ooo good idea
03:31:45  <Stablean> <Anson> move the station one more tile towards that paper factory to load or unload for it ...
03:31:59  <Stablean> <travstr> i don't want to though
03:32:06  <Stablean> <travstr> that's what bridge woods is for lol
03:32:09  <Stablean> <Anson> then you can have separate stations for paper drop and goods pickup ... if you want
03:32:19  <Stablean> <travstr> i don't
03:32:21  <Stablean> <travstr> :p
03:32:59  <Stablean> <Diablo> Arms Race
03:33:01  <Stablean> <Diablo> what a lol name of a train
03:33:21  <Stablean> <Anson> the woods station has 100+ wood waiting ... you would need more wood trains ... bt that easily can lead to deadlocks
03:33:27  <Stablean> <Diablo> my income is kinda stable
03:33:29  <Stablean> <Diablo> nearly a straight line
03:33:47  <Stablean> <Anson> thus you have to decide whether you want wood to pile up at the station or get higher risk of deadlocks
03:35:02  <Stablean> <Diablo> ok here comes the forests..
03:35:16  <Stablean> <Diablo> look forest on map
03:35:22  <Stablean> <Diablo> 45 forests now xD
03:35:44  <Stablean> <travstr> wow this network looks cool on map view
03:35:44  <Stablean> <Diablo> 70 :D
03:35:44  <Stablean> <travstr> whew
03:35:50  <Stablean> <Anson> in front of the split (at "path here") and around the merge (at "ty"), all those pbs are not needed ... just use normal block signals, or at most presignals if you want to have a prio
03:36:08  <Stablean> <travstr> i see
03:36:22  <Stablean> <travstr> i can't use entry and exit signals idk why they're just shit
03:36:29  <Stablean> <travstr> sooooo i use path signals all the time :D
03:36:57  <Stablean> <Diablo> rarely need anything else
03:37:15  <Stablean> <Anson> i think we need to have a map with the setting "path_wait_time 20" :-)
03:37:17  <Stablean> <travstr> oh wow my trains need upgrading
03:37:19  <Stablean> <travstr> holy cow
03:37:45  <Stablean> <Anson> then trains would wait a bit at every pbs before they continue, and pbs would only be used where really needed
03:38:11  <Stablean> <Diablo> why would u want to wait?
03:38:50  <Stablean> <Diablo> trav
03:39:00  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo
03:39:03  <Stablean> <Diablo> check sign "new forest"
03:39:10  <Stablean> <travstr> oh yeah i saw it, thanks
03:39:18  <Stablean> <travstr> i just don't know if i can be bothered lolll
03:39:48  <Stablean> <Diablo> check new forest 2
03:39:55  <Stablean> <Anson> in real life, signals MUST be obeyed or the automatic brakes will stop the train ...
03:40:05  <Stablean> <Anson> only exception is kind of pbs
03:40:20  <Stablean> <travstr> saw that forest ages ago
03:40:27  <Stablean> <Anson> those are signals where a train has to stop first, then ask permission to "continue on sight"
03:40:29  <Stablean> <travstr> but the production is too low to bother with
03:40:51  <Stablean> <Anson> and thus trains would always stop at those "real life pbs" signals
03:41:53  <Stablean> <Anson> if you have a station with good rating and service, production will most likely increase ... but when you ignore it, iot will vanish sooner or later
03:42:03  <Stablean> <travstr> i know :p
03:42:09  <Stablean> <travstr> and i don't care if it vanishes :DDDD
03:42:31  <Stablean> <travstr> lol there's a town with 0 pop
03:42:33  <Stablean> <travstr> ahahaha
03:43:16  <Stablean> <Diablo> 11 minus here
03:43:19  <Stablean> <Diablo> cold
03:43:41  <Stablean> <Anson> where do you live ?
03:43:48  <Stablean> <Diablo> Sweden
03:43:51  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : celsius ?
03:43:54  <Stablean> <Diablo> ye
03:44:22  <Stablean> <Diablo> i didnt get any sleep tonight
03:44:26  <Stablean> <Diablo> like 2-3 hours
03:44:28  <Stablean> <travstr> same LOL
03:44:30  <Stablean> <Diablo> maybe just 2
03:44:33  <Stablean> <Anson> ouch ... we had some warm whether this weekend ... after 10-15, it got up to 20 again .... (plus, and celsius :-)
03:44:51  <Stablean> <Diablo> it was said its going to be hot this week
03:44:55  <Stablean> <Diablo> but it doesnt looks so, so far
03:45:21  <Stablean> <Diablo> and i havent changed tires either
03:45:23  <Stablean> <travstr> see now there's an overload of goods
03:45:25  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
03:45:32  <Stablean> <Anson> it all depends whether high and low pressure areas move a bit ... then we will get your cold instead of warm wind from the south
03:46:03  <Stablean> <Diablo> why did u make a new station that u dont use?
03:46:09  <Stablean> <Diablo> talking about valley ofc
03:46:15  <Stablean> <travstr> ugh
03:46:17  <Stablean> <travstr> it's so much effort
03:46:20  <Stablean> <Anson> and what will you do against those surplus wood and goods ?
03:46:22  <Stablean> <Diablo> ehm?
03:46:24  <Stablean> <Diablo> but ure done
03:46:38  <Stablean> <travstr> besides i need to make a loop from the left tracks
03:46:40  <Stablean> <Diablo> just click the wood train and change the first order
03:46:42  <Stablean> <travstr> over to the right
03:46:56  <Stablean> <Diablo> no no loops
03:47:02  <Stablean> <Diablo> use bridges like normal people
03:47:08  <Stablean> <travstr> that's what i meant
03:47:23  <Stablean> <travstr> as in a loop that turns around over the track
03:47:29  <Stablean> <travstr> >.>
03:48:01  <Stablean> <Diablo> there u have your path
03:49:20  <Stablean> <Diablo> hey..
03:49:24  <Stablean> <Diablo> u see it?
03:49:31  <Stablean> <travstr> see wat
03:49:50  <Stablean> <Diablo> right of valley
03:49:56  <Stablean> <travstr> i see but
03:50:00  <Stablean> <travstr> what are you saying here.
03:50:02  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
03:50:12  <Stablean> <Diablo> elevate upwards
03:50:14  <Stablean> <Diablo> one step
03:50:16  <Stablean> <Diablo> ill fix it
03:50:18  <Stablean> <travstr> why
03:50:30  <Stablean> <Diablo> stubborn :)
03:51:52  <Stablean> <travstr> i don't understand
03:51:54  <Stablean> <travstr> is the issue
03:52:00  <Stablean> <Anson> i think, animal express would be a good train for the red company ...
03:52:15  <Stablean> <Anson> since those trains ignore CL
03:52:30  <Stablean> <travstr> >.>
03:52:50  <Stablean> <travstr> OH CRAP
03:52:57  <Stablean> <travstr> never mind
03:53:55  <Stablean> <Diablo> im gonna kill my company now
03:53:58  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
03:54:04  <Stablean> <travstr> why
03:54:10  <Stablean> <Diablo> why not
03:54:10  <Stablean> <Diablo> :>
03:54:13  <Stablean> <travstr> pl
03:54:15  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
03:54:29  <Stablean> <Diablo> u can buy it
03:54:32  <Stablean> <travstr> no
03:54:34  <Stablean> <Diablo> for one dollar
03:54:49  <Stablean> <travstr> no
03:55:28  <Stablean> <travstr> i don't need your money
03:55:30  <Stablean> <travstr> stop it
03:55:40  <Stablean> <Diablo> doesnt matter
03:55:42  <Stablean> <travstr> go away
03:55:44  <Stablean> <travstr> jesus
03:56:07  <Stablean> <travstr> stop giving me fucking money
03:56:15  <Stablean> <Diablo> yes
03:56:26  <Stablean> <travstr> ugh
03:56:56  <Stablean> <Diablo> there..
03:57:02  <Stablean> <Diablo> soon i will be bought :)
03:57:16  <Stablean> <Diablo> then u can start trains
03:57:20  <Stablean> <Diablo> and ull be double the rich :D
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03:59:03  <Stablean> <travstr> lol at the income graph
03:59:13  <Stablean> <Diablo> :)
03:59:14  <Stablean> <travstr> you were winning, sometimes
03:59:19  <Stablean> <Diablo> and company value
03:59:26  <Stablean> <travstr> LOL
03:59:27  <Stablean> <travstr> i hate you so much
03:59:31  <Stablean> <travstr> i don't want your money
03:59:38  <Stablean> <Diablo> throw it in the lake
03:59:44  <Stablean> <travstr> i was about to :D
03:59:46  <Stablean> <Diablo> raise land on water like 5 times
04:00:00  <Stablean> <travstr> done
04:00:14  <Stablean> <travstr> yay
04:00:16  <Stablean> <travstr> finally
04:00:23  <Stablean> <Diablo> ?
04:00:29  <Stablean> <travstr> can connect my two islands
04:00:32  <Stablean> <travstr> with a bridge
04:00:42  <Stablean> <Diablo> lol
04:00:50  <Stablean> <Diablo> victory indeed
04:02:09  <Stablean> <Diablo> Soon work
04:02:15  <Stablean> <Diablo> and im like a zombie
04:02:25  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
04:07:28  <Stablean> <Diablo> So u didnt buy it?
04:07:40  <Stablean> <travstr> why would I
04:07:55  <Stablean> <travstr> he gave me all his money then sold all his road vehicles
04:07:58  <Stablean> <travstr> and stopped all his trains
04:08:10  <Stablean> <Diablo> ya
04:08:16  <Stablean> <Diablo> so u could buy for one dollar
04:08:18  <Stablean> <Diablo> :)
04:08:24  <Stablean> <travstr> I didn't want it lol
04:08:58  <Stablean> <travstr> lol solo has lots of jams
04:09:04  <Stablean> <travstr> meanwhile my network... *breeze*
04:10:46  <Stablean> <Diablo> time to sweep the servers
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04:16:19  <Stablean> <Diablo> not much people online
04:16:33  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo!
04:16:39  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo
04:17:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> not boo, wooooooooooooooooooo!
04:17:07  <Stablean> <travstr> lolll
04:17:10  <Stablean> <Diablo> ehm..
04:17:16  <Stablean> <Diablo> how come my signs became yours?
04:17:22  <Stablean> <travstr> i clicked that
04:17:26  <Stablean> <Diablo> aha
04:17:43  <BiG_MEECH> How are you Mr. Diablo?
04:17:50  <Stablean> <Diablo> fine :)
04:17:52  <Stablean> <Diablo> or well
04:17:54  <Stablean> <Diablo> tired
04:18:20  <Stablean> <Diablo> would do anything to sleep
04:18:24  <Stablean> <Diablo> but work :/
04:18:32  <BiG_MEECH> aww =\
04:21:16  <Stablean> <travstr> does anyone have any idea how i could expand great marham woods' exit
04:22:18  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
04:22:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> termins unstead of roro
04:22:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wow i cant spell for shit
04:22:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Terminus instead of roro
04:23:03  <Stablean> <travstr> it was terminus but it didn't really work
04:23:14  <Stablean> <travstr> it was so slow
04:23:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> why wouldnt it work?
04:23:40  <Stablean> <travstr> i tried it already
04:23:43  <Stablean> <travstr> and it was worse
04:23:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lies! :D
04:24:03  <Stablean> <travstr> i was mainly looking for ideas on how to widen the exit
04:24:05  <Stablean> <travstr> to two lane
04:24:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> other than bulldozing tons of tiles theres no good way to do it
04:24:41  <Stablean> <travstr> :////////
04:25:03  <Stablean> <travstr> oh i kno
04:26:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> imo, i still think that is a terrible idea
04:26:32  <Stablean> <travstr> i (dis)agree
04:26:57  <Stablean> <Big Meech> there is no reason you shouldnt be making a termins station there
04:27:10  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
04:27:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> what im saying is move the station back as close to town as possible
04:27:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> then just redo the entry
04:27:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you ll have to stop yout trains first
04:27:49  <Stablean> <travstr> nope
04:27:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lmao
04:30:07  <Stablean> <Big Meech> additionally you're wasting a lot of space with your LLRR
04:30:18  <Stablean> <travstr> what's an LLRR
04:30:24  <Stablean> <travstr> o
04:30:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> its vastly under utilized
04:30:24  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
04:30:27  <Stablean> <travstr> how so
04:30:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you could be running just one lane left then right
04:30:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> and your entry to that station would be a lot less complicated
04:31:59  <Stablean> <travstr> anyway i don't know if you've seen the four lane tangle that i've pieced together
04:32:07  <Stablean> <travstr> where me and the pink guy and are
04:32:10  <Stablean> <travstr> are**
04:32:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> dude i commented earlier on how sweet everything looked, remember?
04:32:31  <Stablean> <travstr> yes but
04:32:37  <Stablean> <travstr> did you see the four lane
04:32:39  <Stablean> <travstr> if was it just two
04:32:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i see tons of lanes
04:32:49  <Stablean> <travstr> ok good
04:32:51  <Stablean> <travstr> well bleh
04:32:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> 4 might be good there
04:33:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> but what im saying is that 4 lanes going to that station looks not very used
04:33:19  <Stablean> <travstr> why :(
04:33:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> other parts have many more trains on them
04:33:35  <Stablean> <travstr> which are
04:33:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> like where pink is all over you like flies o nshit
04:33:58  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
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04:34:09  <Stablean> <travstr> but i hve 4 lanes there too
04:34:11  <Stablean> <travstr> so it's no fuss
04:34:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> which are more utilized than what you have going on now
04:34:31  <Stablean> <travstr> so what's wrong
04:34:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> apparently nothing :D
04:34:55  <Stablean> <travstr> okay.
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04:43:42  <Stablean> <Anson> travstr : why don't you do on exit of Great Marham Woods, what you do on the entry ... a double lane and let PBS decide ... you love PBS, don't you ?
04:44:40  <Stablean> <travstr> it is a double lane.
04:44:54  <Stablean> <Anson> at the street crossing, it is single
04:45:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> it could be 1 lane if redone
04:45:14  <Stablean> <travstr> i don't want it to be 1
04:45:28  <Stablean> <travstr> the idea is there is a priority unloading platform for goods
04:45:36  <Stablean> <travstr> the goods only come in from he outer lane
04:45:54  <Stablean> <travstr> they then exit and stay in one lane out of the way of the faster passeneger trains
04:46:00  <Stablean> <travstr> same with the wood trains
04:47:14  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Nice, I've made a few more millions
04:47:24  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Thanks for the original cash bonus, Diablos.
04:47:30  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> it helped alot.
04:47:56  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> I I have transformed Hledham from a tiny residental zone into a city
04:47:58  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Er, Pledham
04:48:16  <Stablean> <Anson> you let pbs decide where the trains go (left or rightz lane) anyway ... why not do a double track right from the platform exists across the road ?
04:48:18  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Like, it's actually connected with Seningville and the other places too.
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04:48:50  <Stablean> <travstr> there was a cross before
04:48:56  <Stablean> <travstr> i deemed it unnecessary
04:49:12  <Stablean> <travstr> however i see your point, since the wood trains aren't doing what i want
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04:49:38  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> ooooh new copper ore mine
04:49:42  <Stablean> <Anson> currently, only one train may leave at the same time, and the signal gap from rightmost platform to the crossing is quite large
04:49:49  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i know
04:50:05  <Stablean> <Anson> with a double track across all platforms and the road, trains could select earlier
04:50:15  <Stablean> <travstr> oh i see
04:50:25  <Stablean> <travstr> but then i need signals at the end
04:50:31  <Stablean> <travstr> oh wait there is space
04:50:33  <Stablean> <travstr> x)
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04:50:39  <Stablean> <Anson> not more than you have now
04:52:14  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> I am the master of roads
04:52:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo!
04:52:26  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Hear my truck and bus engines roar
04:52:33  <Stablean> <Anson> why do you have a 2way pbs on one of those two tracks, and none on the other ?
04:52:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Anson, he does not want to learn how to make better :)
04:52:59  <Stablean> <travstr> oops
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04:56:31  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Excellent...
04:56:37  <Stablean> <Anson> but as we said all the time, separate stations for each pickup and one or more stations for drops are always the best solution ... saves much problems later
04:56:43  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Primaries and secondaries keep showing up on my island
04:56:53  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> if someone funded trees earlier I am happy and thankful
04:57:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> trees really dont have any bearing on what pops up in a certain area
04:57:36  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> nah I got trees and a paper mill
04:57:42  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> so more exports
04:57:48  <Stablean> <travstr> lol what
04:57:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh i gotcha
04:57:56  <Stablean> <travstr> o
04:58:00  <Stablean> <travstr> the forest
04:58:03  <Stablean> <Big Meech> as long as the areas are flat, there will be new shit
04:58:05  <Stablean> <travstr> ok...
04:58:08  <Stablean> <travstr> well i'm off
04:58:10  <Stablean> <Anson> i think someone funded a lot of forests earlier ... that's what you mean by "trees" ?!
04:58:17  <Stablean> <travstr> i should've gone to bed ages ago
04:58:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> it is, Anson
04:58:19  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> yeah
04:58:25  <Stablean> <travstr> let's hope my network doesn't crash and burn.
04:59:07  <Stablean> <Anson> goods are still piling up at Little Mafingbourne Bridge Woods
04:59:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lmao
04:59:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> pro tip : crash shit
04:59:38  <Stablean> <Anson> we will see whether you have even more piles when you return, or whether you have a deadlock ...
04:59:53  <Stablean> <travstr> that crash was my fault btw
04:59:59  <Stablean> <travstr> let's not blame my flawless network
05:00:01  <Stablean> <travstr> thanks
05:00:33  <Stablean> <travstr> that too o
05:01:08  <Stablean> <Anson> flawless ??? ... all those 88 kph corners .... :-)
05:01:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Anson
05:01:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> he doesnt care
05:01:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> xD
05:01:37  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Where is this train crash
05:01:43  <Stablean> <travstr> i had two lol
05:01:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> train crash gone now
05:01:51  <Stablean> <travstr> both my fault as i said
05:01:55  <Stablean> <travstr> the network is flawless
05:02:01  <Stablean> <travstr> no flaws at all
05:02:03  <Stablean> <travstr> flawLESS
05:02:06  <Stablean> <travstr> k bye
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05:02:36  <Stablean> <Anson> lol ... wishful thinking : if said 1000 times, it has to be true
05:02:46  <Stablean> <Big Meech> flawless :D
05:03:28  <Stablean> <Anson> flawless, with waiting bays that have no signals, tight corners, and LOTS of simple crossing instead of junctions ...
05:04:43  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> OH
05:04:50  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> OH IT'S ON NOW FRONDTININGHANNAN
05:04:56  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> THEY ARE DESTROYING MY ROADS
05:05:07  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lmao
05:05:18  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> wait nm it's road reconning
05:05:20  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> welp
05:05:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lmao
05:05:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> next time dont fund road construction xD
05:05:50  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Darn rondinghattan
05:05:57  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> won't let me build stuff near them
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05:06:13  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Welcome
05:06:15  <Stablean> <Anson> problems with the authorities ?
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05:06:25  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Yeah, they think I'm apalling for some reason
05:06:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yes
05:06:29  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> I got a statue erected and stuff
05:06:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> he needs to build more trees
05:06:41  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> How?
05:06:47  <Stablean> <Big Meech> landscape tool
05:06:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> but only after you bulldoze empty tiles
05:07:22  <Stablean> <Anson>
05:07:28  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Thanks.
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05:10:13  <Stablean> <Anson> most important : over time, you get +15 points for active stations and -12 for inactive stations
05:11:07  <Stablean> <Anson> thus you should build stations first and also use them, or not build unused stations and wait
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05:38:47  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Does frondinghattan like me ye-No.
05:38:50  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Why rondinghattan
05:38:52  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Why
05:47:44  <Stablean> <Anson> hint : pay back loan to avoid paying interest :-)
05:48:14  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> good night
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08:23:53  <happ> hi all
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10:21:05  <Stablean> <bon> hi :)
10:21:15  <Stablean> <Andy G> hi
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10:23:32  <Stablean> <bon> funny thing tho..I just joined then a sec later I get offered to test a monorail loco
10:23:38  <Stablean> <bon> of course I HAD to! :)
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10:29:33  <Stablean> <bon> how you doing andy?
10:35:32  <Stablean> <Andy G> sorry, working and modeling rather than pay attention to the chat
10:35:38  <Stablean> <bon> heh..big network?
10:35:44  <Stablean> <Andy G> doing fine on my small piece of real estate
10:35:47  <Stablean> <bon> mm ok :)
10:35:58  <Stablean> <bon> just catching up a bit more here but not too bad tho
10:36:40  <Stablean> <Andy G> I have some calls to make, but in between I can tweak now and again
10:37:26  <Stablean> <Andy G> mine is a small, but efficent network
10:41:32  <Stablean> <bon> heh I see you found twin oilwells too
10:41:51  <Stablean> <Andy G> from the start, but nothing increases at all quickly
10:42:01  <Stablean> <Andy G> and I had to wait till I had funds to build a refinery
10:42:15  <Stablean> <bon> mmm yeah mine has only overnight (I was asleep!) finally jumped up in production rates :-s
10:42:37  <Stablean> <bon> I still have to get to the mines yet but thats for after the dog upgrade :)
10:43:23  <Stablean> <Andy G> i dont seem to get much of a jump in production
10:43:37  <Stablean> <bon> never know when one will happen tho
10:44:09  <Stablean> <Andy G> if you keep the percentager transported up, it should rise
10:44:21  <Stablean> <bon> I've had it gone up when I only had 50% too tho
10:44:23  <Stablean> <Andy G> but some of my resources have barely moved since I started
10:44:25  <Stablean> <bon> seem somewhat randomized
10:49:45  <Stablean> <bon> andy do you think solo is like literally OVERBOARD in term of too much rails and too short trains? if you don't know what to say thats ok :)
10:49:51  <Stablean> <bon> check near Lafingley to see what I meant
10:50:26  <Stablean> <Andy G> not my cup of tea
10:50:32  <Stablean> <bon> aye
10:50:50  <Stablean> <bon> funny thing is he doesn't have any better score on the unit of cargo chart than red ... and red has <100 trains .. go figure
10:51:12  <Stablean> <bon> anyway I'll let you have fun
10:52:10  <Stablean> <Andy G> long trains, sensible network for me
10:52:22  <Stablean> <bon> yeah about the same here too
10:52:56  <Stablean> <Andy G> that is why I am usually near the top with far less trains
10:53:15  <Stablean> <bon> I may try outdo solo tho .. but we'll see how much mining I can do etc still :)
10:54:43  <Stablean> <bon> I do have slight funny use of WET ships tho..but mm they don't care for short steep loops so thats why
10:55:34  <Stablean> <bon> of all the towns on the island there was only just one with a water tower ... so I still think its silly re ship carrying water when its running ON water ... what do I know
10:55:52  <Stablean> <Andy G> hmm
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11:21:32  <Stablean> <bon> heh I knew cargo line went up again
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11:22:06  <andyg> sorry?
11:22:20  <Stablean> <bon> oh sorry...its just a little thing between me and travstr
11:22:22  <Stablean> <bon> :)
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11:31:45  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh guess I'll have to leave mines for later on today :-/
11:31:52  <Stablean> <bon> thats 2nd time I have to put that off -_-
11:34:37  <andyg> oops, someone has a bit of a jam
11:34:45  <Stablean> <bon> who?
11:34:52  <andyg> cool
11:34:55  <andyg> top of map
11:35:05  <Stablean> <bon> oh eirc...hmm
11:35:15  <andyg> completely stopped
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11:36:14  <andyg> dumb stations
11:36:48  <Stablean> <bon> oic...yeah I see it now almost no spacing
11:37:17  <andyg> full loading and no decent approach
11:37:20  <Stablean> <bon> well he has millions of dollars and only a small negative yearly profit so no need to worry about bankruptions
11:37:47  <Stablean> <bon> yeah andyg..I would had made that split a lot earlier back up the line instead of where it is close to the bridge now
11:38:04  <andyg> I don't like reversing stations like that
11:38:47  <Stablean> <bon> mmm yeah I've used roro when traffic seem heavy daily enough
11:39:17  <Stablean> <bon> still have to convert my refinery more than 30 years ago...still too lazy for it now :-s
11:39:27  <Stablean> <bon> at least the food plant is just where it needs to be
11:39:58  <Stablean> <bon> and with that in mind..I need to go off for a while...hopefully can finish fixing up things when I am back!
11:40:01  <Stablean> <bon> have fun either way andyg :)
11:40:11  <andyg> sure
11:40:17  <andyg> later
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13:01:57  <V453000> slug tamer!
13:03:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :D
13:06:24  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you got 4 trains jammed Andy
13:06:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> dunno if you saw
13:06:48  <Stablean> <Djanxy> by Farston
13:06:50  <Stablean> <Andy G> where?
13:07:28  <Stablean> <Andy G> hmm, first time they did that in 100 years
13:07:34  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hehe
13:10:58  <Stablean> <Andy G> well, at least my jam isnt as big as Col's
13:11:06  <Stablean> <Andy G> cool's
13:11:28  <V453000> jams rule
13:12:04  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah, not many trains moving there ;)
13:13:06  <V453000> you should execute a couple of them in order to restore discipline
13:14:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> not sure how to execute a train though
13:15:00  <andyg> Not my problem
13:15:03  <andyg> :-)
13:15:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> must have been jammed for a while, since oil refinery is gone also
13:19:05  <andyg> yeap, most of the day, but he has a big balance
13:19:28  <andyg> that's the problem with short station throats and shared access
13:19:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah, and sometrains still running
13:19:50  <V453000> Djanxy you MURDER them in depots
13:19:57  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yup, could do with an overflow
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16:05:25  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  solo
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16:07:40  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boos
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16:07:48  <Stablean> <solo> hello :-)
16:08:02  <Stablean> <travstr> i see my network hasn't had a huge failure as anson expected
16:08:04  <Stablean> <travstr> phew
16:08:11  <Stablean> <travstr> see it does work anson abahahahhaah
16:08:26  <Stablean> <solo> abaha?:p
16:08:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi    travstr
16:08:38  <Stablean> <travstr> hey happy :>
16:10:29  <Stablean> <travstr> well it seems like not much ahas changed
16:10:32  <Stablean> <travstr> i guess
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16:11:16  <Stablean> <travstr> omg train upgrades
16:11:18  <Stablean> <travstr> lolll
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16:18:12  <Stablean> <Mark> hello
16:18:18  <Stablean> <travstr> hey
16:18:21  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  mark
16:24:12  <Stablean> <travstr> SO MUCH PAPER
16:24:16  <Stablean> <travstr> CANT COPE
16:26:22  <Stablean> <Mark> your island is rediculous
16:26:29  <Stablean> <travstr> in a good way
16:26:31  <Stablean> <travstr> or a bad way
16:26:43  <Stablean> <Mark> its an absolute chaos
16:26:46  <Stablean> <Mark> in a good way
16:27:58  <Stablean> <travstr> personally i think it's pretty sweet
16:28:00  <Stablean> <travstr> but anyway LOL
16:28:14  <Stablean> <travstr> oh no bon's tracks :(
16:28:30  <Stablean> <travstr> #no wait it's not bon's
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16:28:40  <Stablean> <travstr> happy :(
16:28:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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16:32:55  <Stablean> <Mark> oh noes
16:33:01  <Stablean> <solo> inspection!
16:33:17  <Stablean> <Mark> V help me
16:33:23  <Stablean> <Mark> what train do i use for TL2 cargo
16:33:45  <Stablean> <Mark> it must be fast
16:34:09  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
16:34:16  <Stablean> <V453000> omfg keyboard needed update of drivers :D
16:34:22  <Stablean> <V453000> TL2 is easy
16:34:28  <Stablean> <V453000> you should be able to guess that
16:34:43  <Stablean> <Mark> maglev?
16:34:51  <Stablean> <V453000> with 22 capacity?
16:35:05  <Stablean> <Mark> well i dont know
16:35:07  <Stablean> <Mark> its your trainset
16:35:25  <Stablean> <V453000> ok so which trains are logically going to be good with short TL
16:35:39  <Stablean> <Mark> fuck knows
16:35:39  <Stablean> <travstr> oh hey lol
16:35:39  <Stablean> <V453000> fast is just a bonus, you need capacity and acceleration
16:35:49  <Stablean> <travstr> you said it wouldn't work
16:35:52  <Stablean> <travstr> us sharing the island
16:36:02  <Stablean> <V453000> there are trains which are fast, strong, and have high capacity at low TLs
16:36:04  <Stablean> <V453000> find which :)
16:37:22  <Stablean> <V453000> how about logic "train decreases stat X with TL"
16:37:24  <Stablean> <Mark> e-rail
16:37:38  <Stablean> <V453000> erail is definitely good too
16:37:44  <Stablean> <V453000> but not most
16:38:08  <Stablean> <Mark> wet is too slow
16:38:34  <Stablean> <V453000> what other options :)
16:38:37  <Stablean> <V453000> you dont have many anymore
16:38:39  <Stablean> <Mark> omg signals are wrong way around
16:38:45  <Stablean> <V453000> y blame Jam35
16:38:49  <Stablean> <Mark> normal rail
16:38:55  <Stablean> <travstr> the signals are the right way :'><
16:38:58  <Stablean> <travstr> let's not even go there
16:39:05  <Stablean> <Mark> no theyre not
16:39:11  <Stablean> <travstr> yes.
16:39:14  <Stablean> <travstr> they are.
16:39:16  <Stablean> <Mark> you must be american
16:39:18  <Stablean> <Mark> youre all backwards
16:39:21  <Stablean> <travstr> quite the contrary
16:39:23  <Stablean> <travstr> you spastic
16:39:41  <Stablean> <V453000> signals are the WRONG way. anybody saying otherwise will be kicked without warning
16:39:41  <Stablean> <Mark> :D
16:39:43  <Stablean> <V453000> period
16:39:46  <Stablean> <Mark> indeed
16:39:48  <Stablean> <V453000> end of discussion
16:39:50  <Stablean> <travstr> are you seriously raging about this
16:39:52  <Stablean> <solo> hah
16:39:52  <Stablean> <travstr> again
16:39:55  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
16:40:01  <Stablean> <V453000> I am not raging
16:40:04  <Stablean> <solo> i found out yesterday i knew something was wrong but could not place it
16:40:06  <Stablean> <travstr> ye
16:40:06  <Stablean> <V453000> I am solving the problem
16:40:08  <Stablean> <solo> now i understand :)
16:40:27  <Stablean> <travstr> there is no problem with people sharing their opinion
16:40:38  <Stablean> <travstr> unless you seem to want to run a dictatorship
16:40:44  <Stablean> <travstr> out of an openttd server lol
16:41:02  <Stablean> <V453000> having 1 way how things look is good not to make thing confusing
16:41:06  <Stablean> <Mark> V is a dictator
16:41:09  <Stablean> <Mark> we fear and love him
16:41:12  <Stablean> <Mark> our great leader
16:41:14  <Stablean> <V453000> swapping setting which makes things look differently is against that
16:41:16  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
16:41:20  <Stablean> <V453000> and yes this is dictatorship
16:41:26  <Stablean> <Mark> :D
16:41:52  <Stablean> <V453000> fortunately the dictators are trying to make decisions which are good for the people
16:42:23  <Stablean> <travstr> by kicking people who want to say something about signals
16:42:26  <Stablean> <travstr> signals?! lol
16:42:41  <Stablean> <Mark> of course he wont kick you
16:42:55  <Stablean> <V453000> I wouldnt kick people for saying something about meh, I would kick people who insist on creating nonexistent problems about aesthetical setting which has a convention
16:42:58  <Stablean> <Mark> even V's not much of a nazi
16:43:08  <Stablean> <Mark> not that much*
16:43:10  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
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16:44:14  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh Solo, see you fixed the signal ;)
16:44:14  <Stablean> <V453000> but okay, lets give a concluding argument. By having ALWAYS the signals on the right side, it means majority of the players do not need to adapt. By having them on the left side means majority of the players needs to adapt. By having the setting different in various games means Everyone needs to adapt. Which option is best?
16:44:17  <Stablean> <V453000> there, done with it
16:44:35  <Stablean> <Djanxy> lol, this still going on
16:44:41  <Stablean> <travstr> ikr
16:44:43  <Stablean> <V453000> no, again
16:44:43  <Stablean> <travstr> help us
16:45:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i agree with V - did that help ?
16:45:01  <Stablean> <travstr> when will it end
16:45:12  <Stablean> <travstr> adapting is fun
16:45:14  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
16:45:22  <Stablean> <V453000> then go adapt to right hand drive :)
16:45:38  <Stablean> <Djanxy> start writing with your other hand
16:45:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> some do !
16:45:43  <Stablean> <travstr> well people who travel to mainland europe often do it all the time
16:45:45  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
16:45:51  <Stablean> <travstr> i can write with both :/
16:45:57  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont care about people who travel to mainland europe at all
16:45:59  <Stablean> <Mark> i cant write with either
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16:46:15  <Stablean> <travstr> w
16:46:18  <Stablean> <travstr> ell....
16:46:20  <Stablean> <V453000> same as this discussion is about a setting and forcing people to be confused, not about real world and which countries use which side of driving
16:46:27  <Mark> !rcon reset_company 13
16:46:27  <Stablean> Mark: you are not allowed to use !rcon
16:46:30  <Mark> @op
16:46:30  *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark
16:46:32  <Mark> !rcon reset_company 13
16:46:32  <Stablean> Mark: Company deleted.
16:46:40  <Stablean> <travstr> by that logic you're saying a large group should be wrong
16:46:46  <Stablean> <travstr> hm lol
16:46:57  <Stablean> <V453000> not sure if I want to know how did you come to that conclusion
16:47:07  <Stablean> <travstr> what makes you 'not sure'
16:47:09  <Stablean> <travstr> wtf
16:47:11  <Stablean> <travstr> whatever
16:47:16  <V453000> ok its Chameleons Mark :P
16:47:21  <Stablean> <Mark> :D
16:47:23  <Stablean> <Mark> thanks :P
16:47:29  <Stablean> <V453000> fuck you :)
16:47:33  <Stablean> <V453000> :P
16:47:43  <Stablean> <travstr> le rage
16:47:51  <Stablean> <Mark> get over it already
16:47:57  <Stablean> <Mark> theres no arguing with V
16:48:03  <Stablean> <Mark> our great leader
16:48:13  <Stablean> <V453000> you can argue, it just mostly wont lead to your victory :)
16:48:13  <Stablean> <travstr> i can do this all day lol
16:48:13  <Stablean> <Djanxy> solo, you there ?
16:48:21  <Stablean> <Mark> V maybe we should start swapping signal side every other game
16:48:27  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah amazing idea
16:48:45  <Stablean> <V453000> lets also use dutch train set, cargodist and some idiotic patch
16:48:45  <Stablean> <V453000> yayy
16:48:55  <Stablean> <travstr> omg can we? :D
16:48:57  <Stablean> <travstr> <.<
16:50:03  <Stablean> <V453000> solo why the hell do you create artificial train waves at Nardingstone ? :D
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16:50:14  <Stablean> <solo> i just thought it would be cool
16:50:18  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
16:50:20  <Stablean> <solo> but ofcourse it causes more jams
16:50:23  <Stablean> <solo> :-)
16:50:37  <Stablean> <V453000> interesting approach XD
16:50:40  <Stablean> <Mark> you should make a compressor
16:50:50  <Stablean> <solo> almost finished my full 4th line
16:50:52  <Stablean> <solo> ;p
16:50:58  <Stablean> <solo> i have no clue how to compress
16:51:00  <Stablean> <V453000> that would make much sense for the mergers etc Mark :P
16:51:02  <Stablean> <solo> so i wont be bothered ;)
16:51:12  <Stablean> <V453000> dont bother with Mark he is a complete idiot
16:51:14  <Stablean> <V453000> :>
16:51:29  <Stablean> <Mark> Kim Jung V
16:51:35  <Stablean> <V453000> LOL
16:51:35  <Stablean> <Djanxy> lol
16:51:46  <Stablean> <V453000> that shit hurts
16:52:00  <Stablean> <travstr> oops
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16:52:22  <Stablean> <Mark> whats wrong with public?
16:52:24  <Stablean> <Mark> or is just my internet?
16:52:27  <Stablean> <Djanxy> Mark, as highly as he regards you in that article i read of his, he doesnt seem to express it very well ;)
16:52:33  <Stablean> <V453000> idk no time
16:52:43  <Stablean> <V453000> ._.
16:52:53  <Stablean> <V453000> I didnt write anything ever
16:52:56  <Stablean> <Djanxy> lol
16:53:03  <Stablean> <Mark> :)
16:54:10  <Stablean> <solo> drama!
16:54:23  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
16:54:25  <Stablean> <V453000> bit of a theater
16:54:32  <Stablean> <solo> you like?;)
16:54:43  <Stablean> <V453000> no I hate everything and everyone
16:54:51  <Stablean> <solo> bad boy :)
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16:58:25  <Stablean> <solo> easy
16:58:27  <Stablean> <solo> :p
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16:58:52  <Stablean> <solo> afk
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17:08:07  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  jam
17:08:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
17:08:25  <Stablean> <travstr> oh hi jam
17:08:28  <Stablean> <travstr> sorry i was away for a bit
17:08:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> elo
17:09:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things jam
17:10:33  <Jam35> fine thanks how r u?
17:10:43  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good  thanks
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17:10:58  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
17:13:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ther  i  fixs  my  tran  q
17:13:40  <Stablean> <travstr> lol 524
17:13:42  <Stablean> <travstr> trains*
17:13:44  <Stablean> <travstr> this fool
17:13:47  <Stablean> <Ckykyro> Why is is so expensive to landscape? :p
17:13:57  <Stablean> <travstr> so you don't do it
17:14:11  <Stablean> <travstr> at least until you have teh monies
17:14:21  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> to  mak  it   hard in the  game
17:14:24  <Stablean> <Ckykyro> :p
17:14:32  <Stablean> <Ckykyro> trying to make some space on this island
17:14:36  <Stablean> <Ckykyro> Canington
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17:16:50  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  djanxy
17:16:52  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi
17:17:22  <Stablean> <travstr> afk
17:17:49  <Stablean> <Djanxy> looks like not many of Cool's industries has made it through the jam
17:18:19  <Stablean> <travstr> lol where is it
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17:18:31  <Stablean> <Djanxy> all way north
17:18:33  <Stablean> <travstr> oh my
17:18:33  <Stablean> <travstr> lmaoooo
17:18:35  <Stablean> <travstr> ok afk
17:18:50  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  thats  won big  jam
17:19:08  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yup, and so many stations now next to nothing
17:19:16  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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17:20:16  <Stablean> <eirc> hello
17:20:18  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
17:20:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> lo
17:20:37  <Stablean> <Djanxy> speaking of the devil
17:20:44  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you got a little jam
17:20:52  <Stablean> <eirc> a little?
17:20:59  <Stablean> <Djanxy> and a lot of missing industries im afraid
17:21:06  <Stablean> <eirc> lol evertthing is stoped
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17:21:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> no, you got 6 trains making profit ;)
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17:21:27  <Stablean> <eirc> oh wow
17:21:33  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb   solo
17:21:33  <Stablean> <eirc> omfg
17:21:39  <Stablean> <solo> :)
17:21:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  andy g
17:21:51  <Stablean> <eirc> hope i got enough money to refund everything...
17:21:53  <Stablean> <Andy G> hi
17:22:00  <Stablean> <Andy G> is my city the biggest yet?
17:22:02  <Stablean> <eirc> hi andy
17:22:06  <Stablean> <Ckykyro> I only have 14k :/
17:22:12  <Stablean> <Ckykyro> and no source of income atm
17:22:18  <Stablean> <Ckykyro> could loan
17:22:46  <Stablean> <eirc> its ok i got 150m maybe u want some?
17:23:38  <Stablean> <Ckykyro> "bridge too long"
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17:23:49  <Stablean> <Djanxy> 12 tiles max
17:24:16  <Stablean> <Ckykyro> could make a little island, if it didn't cose 300mil to do it
17:25:19  <Stablean> <Ckykyro> No air? :p
17:25:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  no ships  or plans  on this  server
17:26:13  <Stablean> <Ckykyro> mmk
17:26:15  <Stablean> <eirc> yey things are kinda moving again
17:26:21  <Stablean> <Ckykyro> looks like all the good spots are taken
17:26:31  <Stablean> <Ckykyro> only islands out of reach left
17:26:31  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh eirc, i se movement !
17:26:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> see*
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17:26:51  <Stablean> <eirc> :D
17:27:01  <Stablean> <eirc> hmm cannot fund targetted farm
17:27:07  <Stablean> <eirc> minor issue
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17:29:45  <Stablean> <eirc> i definately need to rebuild all this crap
17:31:01  <Stablean> <travstr> oh hah
17:31:07  <Stablean> <travstr> unlucky.
17:31:13  <Stablean> <solo> did you see that
17:31:13  <Stablean> <solo> :p
17:31:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
17:31:21  <Stablean> <travstr> i hate it when i mess around with signals and i fail to spot something lol
17:31:47  <Stablean> <Djanxy> also good to have seperate stations for livestock and wheat - also prone to jams with both going to same
17:32:29  <Stablean> <travstr> oh hey eirc
17:32:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> (meant for eirc) :D
17:32:35  <Stablean> <solo> small jam happening
17:32:35  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah it was brutal watching your jam lol
17:32:51  <Stablean> <travstr> careful solo
17:32:53  <Stablean> <eirc> hahah
17:33:07  <Stablean> <travstr> before you know it if you remove the wrong signals a whole bunch of trains will collide lol
17:33:10  <Stablean> <solo> ye
17:33:12  <Stablean> <solo> :)
17:33:20  <Stablean> <eirc> there was so little space to build because of crappy building
17:33:30  <Stablean> <travstr> you had little space?
17:33:32  <Stablean> <travstr> you??
17:33:32  <Stablean> <Djanxy> it jammed same spot again btw
17:33:34  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
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17:33:40  <Stablean> <Andy G> you're jamming up again cool
17:33:44  <Stablean> <eirc> hahahah sorry..
17:33:54  <Stablean> <travstr> who's jamming :o
17:34:00  <Stablean> <Andy G> erci
17:34:02  <Stablean> <travstr> bob marley is jammin
17:34:04  <Stablean> <travstr> heh
17:34:10  <Stablean> <Andy G> get rid of the full load and no prob
17:34:10  <Stablean> <Djanxy> he sure is
17:34:12  <Stablean> <eirc> every day i'm jammin
17:34:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb  mark
17:34:20  <Stablean> <Andy G> you're not bob marley, are you
17:34:38  <Stablean> <travstr> that station is way too close to the main line eirc
17:34:40  <Stablean> <travstr> the onei've signed
17:34:47  <Stablean> <travstr> if you could move it a lot of problems would go away
17:34:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> he's not allowed to jam if he's not?
17:35:12  <Stablean> <travstr> or you could make the exit for the station longer
17:35:14  <Stablean> <travstr> like to here
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17:35:56  <Stablean> <eirc> i think ill just rebuild some stuff after i fix the main jamming issues
17:36:10  <Stablean> <Djanxy> that staion only has 3 trains tho
17:36:10  <Stablean> <eirc> coz i really needed an LLRR
17:36:16  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah
17:36:26  <Stablean> <eirc> i wanted more trains and they didnt fit the lines
17:36:33  <Stablean> <travstr> djanxy it has 4
17:36:35  <Stablean> <travstr> not 3
17:36:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ah was looking at the other one
17:36:55  <Stablean> <travstr> and they fill up so slow
17:37:01  <Stablean> <travstr> that it causes the jam
17:38:47  <Stablean> <Djanxy> not right after the bridge though, will only make the signal gap larger ;)
17:38:53  <Stablean> <travstr> i was looking at that
17:38:56  <Stablean> <travstr> hm
17:38:59  <Stablean> <travstr> move it just after bridge
17:39:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> but he said he was gonna rebuild his mainline anyways
17:39:24  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah
17:39:26  <Stablean> <Djanxy> or make 2 lines
17:39:28  <Stablean> <travstr> so i left it alone
17:40:16  <Stablean> <solo> \ye this island is pretty much done :)
17:40:27  <Stablean> <travstr> there was a forest i was going to get
17:40:30  <Stablean> <travstr> but it closed down
17:40:48  <Stablean> <travstr> there's another one near sindinghead... hm
17:40:58  <Stablean> <solo> goodluck with that ohne
17:41:00  <Stablean> <solo> one*
17:41:02  <Stablean> <travstr> ikr :/
17:41:20  <Stablean> <solo> you can tunnel under my line anyway
17:42:02  <Stablean> <travstr> ye i suppose
17:42:12  <Stablean> <travstr> it's not worth it
17:42:14  <Stablean> <travstr> i cba
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17:46:34  <Stablean> <travstr> fa realz
17:46:53  <Stablean> <travstr> so... much... paper...
17:46:57  <Stablean> <travstr> so... much... goods...
17:48:23  <Stablean> <travstr> solo
17:48:25  <Stablean> <solo> y?
17:48:27  <Stablean> <travstr> can you do me a favour
17:48:38  <Stablean> <solo> 1 sec
17:48:52  <Stablean> <solo> ok?
17:48:55  <Stablean> <travstr> see my signs
17:49:05  <Stablean> <travstr> ty
17:49:23  <Stablean> <travstr> on that note is that anything i can do for you
17:49:25  <Stablean> <travstr> to help us 'coexist'
17:49:35  <Stablean> <solo> :>
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17:51:32  <Stablean> <travstr> o snap
17:56:02  <Stablean> <travstr> AHHHHHHHHHH
17:56:50  <Stablean> <solo> can you do me a favor now?
17:56:58  <Stablean> <travstr> fireaway
17:57:04  <Stablean> <solo> sign
17:57:04  <Stablean> <solo> middle
17:57:22  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
17:57:24  <Stablean> <solo> thanks
17:57:27  <Stablean> <travstr> once my trains have cleared sigh
17:57:33  <Stablean> <solo> sure ;)
17:57:52  <Stablean> <travstr> why is there so much traffic omg
17:57:58  <Stablean> <solo> just stop your train xD
17:58:20  <Stablean> <solo> ah
17:58:22  <Stablean> <solo> thanks
17:58:28  <Stablean> <travstr> lol yeah i did it quickly
17:58:30  <Stablean> <solo> ^^
17:59:06  <Stablean> <travstr> i have another favour
17:59:10  <Stablean> <solo> go
17:59:20  <Stablean> <travstr> sign
17:59:31  <Stablean> <travstr> you didn't have to move it that much lol
17:59:33  <Stablean> <solo> this?
17:59:37  <Stablean> <solo> :p
17:59:39  <Stablean> <travstr> now you train curve is sharp
17:59:41  <Stablean> <travstr> your*
17:59:43  <Stablean> <solo> dont worry
17:59:49  <Stablean> <solo> its not heavy traffic there
17:59:55  <Stablean> <travstr> oh ok
18:00:01  <Stablean> <travstr> you can move it back, but thanks :>>>>>.
18:00:17  <Stablean> <solo> :D
18:03:59  <Stablean> <solo> say yes to jamfree day
18:04:06  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
18:04:12  <Stablean> <eirc> YES
18:04:14  <Stablean> <travstr> my network will never be jamfree haha
18:05:37  <Stablean> <eirc> LLRR total conversion dat
18:05:40  <Stablean> <eirc> *day
18:05:46  <Stablean> <solo> ^^
18:06:00  <Stablean> <travstr> whoa
18:06:12  <Stablean> <solo> say yes to laggy days :)
18:06:16  <Stablean> <eirc> haha
18:06:21  <Stablean> *** TeLiX joined the game
18:06:32  <Stablean> <eirc> hello telix
18:06:38  <Stablean> <TeLiX> hi!!!
18:07:20  <Stablean> *** TeLiX has joined company #15
18:08:12  <Stablean> <travstr> company league tables: 1st - travstr's trains
18:08:14  <Stablean> <travstr> ^^
18:08:19  <Stablean> <travstr> can I get a wat wat
18:08:21  <Stablean> <eirc> gogo
18:10:50  <Stablean> <travstr> yes jams woooo
18:10:50  <Stablean> <travstr> YES
18:10:56  <Stablean> <travstr> BEAUTIFUL
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18:11:31  <Stablean> <travstr> oh i see solo you're usnig two different colours
18:12:01  <Stablean> <solo> got me
18:12:08  <Stablean> <solo> :)
18:12:11  <Stablean> <travstr> are the colours random tho
18:12:17  <Stablean> <travstr> or are they for different lines
18:12:25  <Stablean> <solo> i made new tracks yellow
18:12:35  <Stablean> <solo> so i know what i am building
18:12:37  <Stablean> <solo> its a bit spiderweb already
18:12:49  <Stablean> <travstr> it's so complex lol
18:12:52  <Stablean> <travstr> with over 500 trains :o
18:12:59  <Stablean> <travstr> only on this island alone LOL how do you do it
18:13:30  <Stablean> <travstr> da lags
18:14:29  <Stablean> <solo> well
18:14:36  <Stablean> <solo> with you around it certainly wasnt easier xD
18:14:44  <Stablean> <travstr> lol i bet
18:14:54  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm stubborn :D
18:15:25  <Stablean> <travstr> hm
18:15:32  <Stablean> <travstr> time to upgrade to maglev me things
18:15:34  <Stablean> <travstr> thinks
18:20:10  <Stablean> <travstr> ummm
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18:22:21  <Stablean> <travstr> is anyone alive
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18:49:25  <Stablean> <travstr> hey bon bon
18:49:40  <Stablean> <bon> UGHHH .. day was much longer than I even thought it would
18:49:46  <Stablean> <bon> but mmm here I am X_X
18:49:48  <Stablean> <travstr> haha lol :
18:49:50  <Stablean> <travstr> :>
18:50:06  <Stablean> <bon> and hi travstr :|  now hopefully I *can* use the mines this time as I don't have anything else to fix...I hope!
18:50:20  <Stablean> <travstr> haha fingers crossed lol
18:50:22  <Stablean> <travstr> d
18:50:24  <Stablean> <bon> oh right..I'm not in company.... *whacks head on keyboard*
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18:50:32  <Stablean> <travstr> would help hah
18:50:42  <Stablean> <bon> *whacks travstr to quit laughing!* :P heheheh
18:50:46  <Stablean> <travstr> :o
18:51:13  <Stablean> <travstr> i didn't realise you could upgrade to monorail/maglev all through autoreplace
18:51:23  <Stablean> <bon> well thats only due to purr-rail
18:51:25  <Stablean> <travstr> i didn't know it would do both wagons and engines at the same time
18:51:31  <Stablean> <travstr> ya i kno but
18:51:33  <Stablean> <travstr> still
18:51:35  <Stablean> <travstr> so useful
18:51:37  <Stablean> <bon> oh I see what you mean
18:51:52  <Stablean> <bon> yeah I think its only because autoreplace can recognize doing two things in pair
18:51:54  <Stablean> <bon> to put it that way
18:52:00  <Stablean> <travstr> ye
18:52:04  <Stablean> <travstr> it's v good, so quick
18:52:18  <Stablean> <travstr> but it's caused problems in my network :( all the trains are going crazy lol
18:52:25  <Stablean> <bon> ughh .. too much oil sitting... I knew that would happen...
18:52:27  <Stablean> <eirc> guys does reset command reset monies too?
18:52:29  <Stablean> <bon> lets see...
18:52:40  <Stablean> <travstr> not sure
18:53:42  <Stablean> <travstr> :o you overtook me on company tables
18:53:44  <Stablean> <travstr> wah
18:53:46  <Stablean> <travstr> @ bon
18:55:12  <Stablean> <bon> where is adif anyway :/
18:55:22  <Stablean> <travstr> i think he's gone for good
18:55:24  <Stablean> <travstr> for this map anyway
18:55:32  <Stablean> <bon> hmmm dern tram in way
18:55:39  <Stablean> <bon> oh well wouldn't matter if I build a flat crossing over :)
18:55:41  <Stablean> <travstr> lol i noticed lol
18:58:43  <Stablean> <bon> I'll just wait and see but I hope next map has islands more or less like this AND firs .... what do I really know tho ;)
18:59:05  <Stablean> <travstr> i don't think it'll have firs tbh
18:59:07  <Stablean> <travstr> it's a bit much
18:59:21  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...then at least disable the **** production rate amock :|
18:59:33  <Stablean> <travstr> haha i know right?!
18:59:35  <Stablean> <bon> thats all I think I can say heh
18:59:42  <Stablean> <bon> firs at least didn't jump like crazy on you
18:59:53  <Stablean> <travstr> one of my forest is now at 1,161
19:00:03  <Stablean> <travstr> it was at 900 when i came back today
19:00:05  <Stablean> <bon> you're not the only one with 1000+ rates
19:00:09  <Stablean> <travstr> and only at 300 when i left yesterday :/
19:00:15  <Stablean> <bon> I wish it would stay under 200 tbh
19:00:18  <Stablean> <bon> :)
19:00:24  <Stablean> <travstr> meh maybe 300-600
19:00:38  <Stablean> <bon> yeah that'll be ok too... 300-600 is still a 'small' range
19:00:40  <Stablean> <travstr> i don't mind the increased production but it's SOOOOO MUCH
19:00:47  <Stablean> <travstr> like 1000+? omg no
19:00:53  <Stablean> <bon> compared to eg jumping from 96 to 1400 .. thats TOO WIDE
19:00:59  <Stablean> <travstr> haha ye
19:01:09  <Stablean> <bon> heh looks like both of us share a common vote then
19:01:11  <Stablean> <bon> :)
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19:02:01  <Stablean> <travstr> mhmmm
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19:02:29  <Stablean> <bon> I think I'll have to intentionally leave some stations half-burned out .. can't be arsed with the stupid unfair rates anyway :)
19:02:40  <Stablean> <bon> heh
19:03:03  <Stablean> <[x]> hell
19:03:09  <Stablean> <[x]> Whats the point of coop?
19:03:09  <Stablean> <travstr> o
19:03:16  <Stablean> <[x]> hello :D, yes :)
19:03:27  <Stablean> <travstr> whats the point of coop
19:03:34  <Stablean> <travstr> why ask such a question
19:03:40  <Stablean> <travstr> to get help, have fun
19:03:47  <Stablean> <travstr> well there's still a competitive side but it's more fun
19:04:01  <Stablean> <[x]> I mean, like whats the difference, never played coop
19:04:20  <Stablean> <travstr> well atm this isn't super coop
19:04:34  <Stablean> <travstr> likemost companies are generally just doing what they want
19:04:52  <Stablean> <bon> I see solo upgraded locos but can't upgrade his weird brain yet
19:04:58  <Stablean> <bon> heh
19:05:00  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
19:05:02  <Stablean> <travstr> ikr
19:05:12  <Stablean> <travstr> but we're being nice to each other now
19:05:15  <Stablean> <bon> :)
19:05:21  <Stablean> <eirc> hahah
19:05:23  <Stablean> <travstr> just so i can get things done
19:05:26  <Stablean> <travstr> and he can too
19:05:28  <Stablean> <eirc> *for* now
19:05:32  <Stablean> <travstr> I was about to say for now ;)
19:05:38  <Stablean> <eirc> heheh
19:05:48  <Stablean> <bon> travstr..I tell you what...would be funny if two of us end up together on a larger island instead...I mean...I'm rather minimal tracks which you probably "would not care for" :)
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19:06:06  <Stablean> <travstr> speak of the devil
19:06:08  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo
19:06:14  <Stablean> <solo> boo xD
19:06:14  <Stablean> <bon> travstr..just look at my lines and you'll understand...I about the two of us together? :P
19:06:16  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
19:06:22  <Stablean> <travstr> i see it bon lol
19:06:25  <Stablean> <travstr> it could work ;)
19:06:48  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...yeah would be funny to have two rather different with multiply properity tracks and other with only 1-2 tracks :)
19:07:02  <Stablean> <travstr> that would be interesting actually
19:07:05  <Stablean> <bon> so ehh lets see if theres a big island on next map to ... umm ... "share" :P
19:07:09  <Stablean> <travstr> oo new maglev
19:07:12  <Stablean> <travstr> yes definitely
19:07:36  <Stablean> <bon> and btw my two little 1-tile trains are still running on a profit :)
19:07:38  <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators
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19:07:46  <Stablean> <solo> can you do sometyhing for me ?
19:07:46  <Stablean> <bon> the island village actually has a bit higher population now
19:07:46  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Hey guys
19:07:52  <Stablean> <travstr> lol sweet
19:07:58  <Stablean> <travstr> hey goofball
19:08:04  <Stablean> <solo> sign at your awkward station travstr
19:08:08  <Stablean> <solo> :p
19:08:15  <Stablean> <travstr> okay
19:08:22  <Stablean> <solo> nvmd
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19:08:26  <Stablean> <solo> that didnt work
19:08:28  <Stablean> <solo> xD
19:08:35  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Niiice, I made about 10 million overnight
19:08:37  <Stablean> <travstr> what were you trying?
19:08:56  <Stablean> <eirc> gj!
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19:09:10  <Stablean> <eirc> i had all my trains jam to a stop overnight :p
19:09:10  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> ok seriously game
19:09:10  <Stablean> <travstr> omg lol at the operating profit graph
19:09:17  <Stablean> <travstr> my profit went way down
19:09:20  <Stablean> <travstr> i wonder why
19:09:27  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> I appear to have the best operating profit
19:09:33  <Stablean> <travstr> no
19:09:43  <Stablean> <travstr> use the key
19:09:46  <Stablean> <travstr> and you will see
19:09:50  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> And-Oh god Pledham is the new New york city
19:09:52  <Stablean> <travstr> that it is me! ;)
19:09:55  <Stablean> <travstr> no not really.
19:10:57  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Also guys I hit the road vehicle limit apparently
19:11:07  <Stablean> <solo> how do i replace to animal express?
19:11:15  <Stablean> <Andy G> how many
19:11:15  <Stablean> <travstr> autoreplace
19:11:15  <Stablean> <eirc> rv limit is small so u dont build many i think
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19:11:19  <Stablean> <solo> doesnt seem to work
19:11:27  <Stablean> <travstr> why not
19:11:33  <Stablean> <travstr> what is it saying?
19:11:35  <Stablean> <solo> you tell me
19:11:37  <Stablean> <solo> nothing
19:11:40  <Stablean> <travstr> hm
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19:11:50  <Stablean> <travstr> how are you accessing the autoreplace
19:11:54  <Stablean> <travstr> menu
19:12:00  <Stablean> <bon> solo...animal express is probably not meant for standard rails I idea sorry
19:12:10  <Stablean> <solo> i dunno
19:12:10  <Stablean> <solo> :)
19:12:13  <Stablean> <travstr> you need to go to the train list
19:12:16  <Stablean> <travstr> your train list
19:12:26  <Stablean> <travstr> then go to manage list, autoreplace
19:12:32  <Stablean> <travstr> well replace vehicles
19:12:43  <Stablean> <solo> ye well i know how autoreplace works my friend :)
19:12:45  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Oh come obn
19:12:51  <Stablean> <travstr> ;)
19:12:53  <Stablean> <travstr> well then
19:12:55  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you need to replace the wagons also
19:12:57  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> my farm I spent so long building tunnels to dissappeared
19:12:59  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> welp
19:13:06  <Stablean> <travstr> make sure you do both the wagons and that you have enough depots
19:13:12  <Stablean> <travstr> for all of them
19:13:12  <Stablean> <solo> yes yes
19:13:14  <Stablean> <solo> i know
19:13:20  <Stablean> <travstr> THEN IDK LOL.
19:13:22  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Are you guys still in the stone ages and using wagons?
19:13:24  <Stablean> <solo> perhaps i found it
19:13:30  <Stablean> <travstr> no
19:13:32  <Stablean> <bon> if next game doesn't have any better industry system I'll have to try see if I couldn't do more pax than freights
19:13:35  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Ah.
19:13:37  <Stablean> <bon> could be interesting
19:13:44  <Stablean> <solo> hmm no
19:13:47  <Stablean> <travstr> they're called wagons throughout the game
19:13:50  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> ah
19:13:53  <Stablean> <travstr> we're talking about the train wagons
19:13:59  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Oooh.
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19:14:05  <Stablean> <travstr> omg this traffic
19:14:07  <Stablean> <travstr> help me
19:14:07  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> I thought you meant the horse drawn wagons
19:14:15  <Stablean> <travstr> nono
19:14:37  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Alright ima go now
19:14:40  <Stablean> <travstr> okay bb
19:14:54  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Mr Goofball's Wild Transport Systems will keep dominating the transport industry
19:15:01  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> as pledham city grows every 11 days now
19:15:03  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao you wish
19:15:14  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Also wait a minute it's June 2020
19:15:17  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> oh god hahah
19:15:27  <Stablean> <travstr> fyi before you go
19:15:31  <Stablean> <travstr> make more roads for pledham
19:15:34  <Stablean> <travstr> so it grows more
19:15:36  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> alright
19:15:58  <Stablean> <travstr> like if you see my city, slarnley market
19:15:58  <Stablean> <bon> know what...I'll give it a little test on this map instead seeing i have some time to waste....going kill off a lot of freights now :)
19:16:04  <Stablean> <travstr> i have made more roads for later
19:16:14  <Stablean> <travstr> go for it bon lol
19:16:26  <Stablean> <bon> yeah I mean the new map isn't here yet so...meh with it!
19:17:16  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> funnily enough pledham was the smallest of the 4 towns there when I started
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19:18:14  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you should introduce some trams !
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19:18:38  <Stablean> <travstr> these bridges are ruining everything
19:18:48  <Stablean> <travstr> slowing my whole network
19:18:51  <Stablean> <bon> travstr..where?
19:18:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> which ones ?
19:18:59  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Who needs trams, we have expensive highspeed buses that go faster then a sports car
19:19:05  <Stablean> <travstr> signed
19:19:19  <Stablean> <bon> oh...travstr..mind if I join you again as theres a simple solution to that
19:19:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> gotta make double
19:19:23  <Stablean> <[x]> trams are facy
19:19:25  <Stablean> <travstr> sure
19:19:27  <Stablean> <[x]> fancy*
19:19:35  <Stablean> <travstr> let me change password ;)
19:19:54  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
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19:20:04  <Stablean> <bon> ok one sec..
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19:20:28  <Stablean> <travstr> o i c
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19:20:43  <Stablean> <travstr> i kinda wanna use tunnels instead
19:20:46  <Stablean> <travstr> looks nicer
19:20:56  <Stablean> <bon> well bridges is a bit less space needy
19:21:02  <Stablean> <travstr> true.
19:21:04  <Stablean> <[x]> uhh, soo many rails, looks messy
19:21:10  <Stablean> <bon> I'll let you deal with the junction and new signals atm
19:21:18  <Stablean> <bon> I think you know that better than me atm :-x
19:21:24  <Stablean> <Djanxy> tunnels would work alright in that terrain though
19:21:27  <Stablean> <bon> basically you want split traffics down both
19:21:45  <Stablean> <travstr> omg
19:21:47  <Stablean> <travstr> amazing
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19:21:58  <Stablean> <travstr> thanks bbe
19:22:01  <Stablean> <bon> need to fix signals
19:22:13  <Stablean> <[x]> soo few road vechiles :(
19:22:15  <Stablean> <travstr> why what's up
19:22:15  <Stablean> <Djanxy> and optimally, you wanna make it synced - so both paths are equally long
19:22:19  <Stablean> <bon> normal one-way is not the right one to use in a split
19:22:29  <Stablean> <travstr> explain
19:22:31  <Stablean> <travstr> pls
19:22:35  <Stablean> <bon> I'll let djanxy do that ^^
19:22:37  <Stablean> <Djanxy> sure it is, for a bridge like that
19:22:39  <Stablean> <travstr> well weirdly enough
19:22:43  <Stablean> <travstr> it seems to be flowing now lol
19:22:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> but
19:22:53  <Stablean> <travstr> i guess what I could do is remove the slopes before the bridge
19:23:03  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you should only have 1 signal before each bridge
19:23:05  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy..except if one train stops other one can foul the junction due to the force of 1-way signals
19:23:12  <Stablean> <bon> mm
19:23:27  <Stablean> <travstr> like that?
19:23:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> no
19:23:39  <Stablean> <Djanxy> 1 after the split, on each line
19:24:01  <Stablean> <travstr> lol wat
19:24:08  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh *just shakes head*
19:24:12  <Stablean> <bon> you sure need to learn more maybe
19:24:15  <Stablean> <eirc> djanxy shouldnt there be a signal at the bridge merge?
19:24:25  <Stablean> <Djanxy> it needs to see the whole bridge, so it doesnt take a bridge where there's already a train on - with your trainlength i guess it doesnt make much of a difference
19:24:39  <Stablean> <travstr> well whatever
19:24:41  <Stablean> <travstr> it's working
19:24:44  <Stablean> <travstr> i wanna use a tunnel <3
19:24:47  <Stablean> <Djanxy> but as a principle
19:24:53  <Stablean> <bon> so go ahead then? :P
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19:24:57  <Stablean> <eirc> but there should be a signal at the end before the merge?
19:25:11  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah
19:25:21  <Stablean> <eirc> o cool
19:25:36  <Stablean> <Djanxy> otherwise both bridges and the merge would be one block
19:25:46  <Stablean> <eirc> yeah
19:25:48  <Stablean> <[x]> can i join anyone?
19:25:48  <Stablean> <eirc> ok
19:26:06  <Stablean> <Djanxy> trav, saw what i said about making it synced ?
19:26:06  <Stablean> <travstr> wait
19:26:09  <Stablean> <travstr> i did yes
19:26:15  <Stablean> <travstr> what is the best way to do that
19:26:27  <Stablean> <travstr> move the merge over to the left track?
19:26:30  <Stablean> <travstr> instead of righT?
19:26:44  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah
19:27:03  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Do electric engines require any special railing or do they work on standard rail?
19:27:11  <Stablean> <bon> standard
19:27:17  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Alright, thanks.
19:28:04  <Stablean> <Djanxy> do signals on the new track
19:28:22  <Stablean> <Djanxy> but yeah, like that
19:28:24  <Stablean> <travstr> okay?
19:28:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> now the trains keep the same distance
19:28:40  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm..
19:28:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> before and after the bridges
19:28:50  <Stablean> <travstr> so i need to move this signal..
19:29:00  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nah
19:29:02  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah
19:29:04  <Stablean> <Djanxy> sure there
19:29:26  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> They go so faaaasst
19:29:36  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Upgraded to the tier 8 fast electric engine
19:29:46  <Stablean> <bon> you been out of touch? ;)
19:30:02  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> They were Black Sunshines before I upgraded.
19:30:04  <Stablean> <travstr> ty.
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19:30:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> but
19:30:54  <Stablean> <travstr> now the second bridge is causing a problem
19:30:54  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
19:30:56  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you only moved the problem a little down the line, where the next single bridge is :D
19:31:10  <Stablean> <travstr> smh
19:31:24  <Stablean> <bon> haha... travstr is going to have endless headaches? ;)
19:31:36  <Stablean> <bon> and I'm jettishing my freights at same time to have less :p
19:31:42  <Stablean> <bon> talk about polarity :)
19:31:44  <Stablean> <Djanxy> it's good practice :D
19:32:34  <Stablean> <travstr> now the tunnel is the problem
19:32:36  <Stablean> <travstr> *dies*
19:32:42  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Guys I'm gonna buy a 6 horse passenger carriage and have it deliver people around the Pledham suburban and urban areas
19:33:00  <Stablean> <travstr> fun
19:33:00  <Stablean> <travstr> lmaooo
19:33:06  <BiG_MEECH> wooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooOOOoOooOOOO!
19:33:08  <Stablean> <Djanxy> now for double tunnel
19:33:18  <Stablean> <travstr> i don't think it's possible
19:33:20  <Stablean> <travstr> well it's not
19:33:28  <Stablean> <travstr> unless solo moves bridge
19:33:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nope, that station
19:33:30  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> "too many road vehicles in game" aww
19:33:37  <Stablean> <solo> sign me if you need anything
19:33:55  <Stablean> <travstr> signed, thank you
19:33:57  <Stablean> <[x]> i need a company :P
19:34:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> well, now you can skip the tunnels ;)
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19:34:23  <Stablean> <travstr> actually i suppose...
19:34:47  <Stablean> <eirc> slowly... slowly... im gonna fix this place
19:35:06  <Stablean> <bon> goodbye ships too :->
19:35:08  <Stablean> <travstr> oh never mind
19:35:38  <Stablean> <Djanxy> clear tunnel and go over - you can pass under his bridge now
19:35:52  <Stablean> <travstr> wat
19:36:10  <Stablean> <travstr> o
19:36:48  <Stablean> <travstr> not here tho
19:36:52  <Stablean> <travstr> oh
19:36:54  <Stablean> <travstr> lmaooo
19:36:57  <Stablean> <travstr> weirest track
19:37:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> autoslope 4tw
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19:37:35  <Stablean> <travstr> okay
19:37:45  <Stablean> <travstr> so now the problem is
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19:37:47  <Stablean> <travstr> the loading
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19:37:55  <Stablean> <bon> I'll probably keep the food-related trains tho :->
19:37:57  <Stablean> <travstr> actually nvm
19:37:59  <Stablean> <jrambo> hello
19:38:09  <Stablean> <travstr> hi
19:38:09  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> MY SIX HORSE CARRIAGE IS WORKING
19:38:11  <Stablean> <eirc> hi
19:38:11  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
19:38:11  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> HUZZAH
19:38:17  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> Road vehiucle 17
19:38:36  <Stablean> <travstr> i have no idea how i'm still first on the leaderboard
19:38:44  <Stablean> <travstr> considering i just tore up half my network
19:38:49  <Stablean> <travstr> broken stats
19:38:57  <Stablean> <bon> I'm not sure why my operating profit is still same when I lost several heavy trains
19:39:03  <Stablean> <bon> but eh? :-)
19:39:03  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i need to work on that merge
19:39:05  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> I don;t know how I'm 10th
19:39:15  <Stablean> <Djanxy> since you got 2 lines going to the station
19:39:25  <Stablean> <Djanxy> that can both go to all platforms
19:39:31  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem  x   company 15   is  free   so u can  not  doo a password
19:39:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> simply dont merge the 2 inc lines
19:39:43  <Stablean> <travstr> i know but i helps with flow
19:39:45  <Stablean> <travstr> as you see
19:39:51  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> travstr how do you make towns not see you as appalling
19:39:53  <Stablean> <travstr> oh snap some of my trains aren't maglev yet
19:39:56  <Stablean> <travstr> build trees
19:40:02  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i just see trains stopping each other at that merge
19:40:04  <Stablean> <travstr> lots of trees.
19:40:34  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD
19:40:36  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> GG NO RE
19:40:39  <Stablean> <travstr> so like this?
19:40:45  <Stablean> <eirc> control click trees in transparency settings to lock them invisible ;)
19:40:47  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah sure
19:40:53  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> guys i just spent 30 million on trees
19:40:59  <Stablean> <travstr> :/
19:41:01  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> can i quit playing now
19:41:11  <Stablean> <travstr> loan loan loan
19:41:37  <Stablean> <travstr> lol you only spent 15mil
19:41:40  <Stablean> <travstr> calm ;)
19:41:46  <Stablean> <bon> he's too jumpy I say :)
19:41:48  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> uh then why does my screen say I spent 30 million
19:42:04  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> and say I have spent 30,820,060 on construction
19:42:06  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm looking at your finances
19:42:12  <Stablean> <travstr> it only says 15,360,030
19:42:19  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> well that's weird
19:42:22  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> lemme check something
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19:42:40  <Stablean> <bon> check your're not bankrupted so..stop complaining
19:42:44  <Stablean> <bon> heh
19:42:46  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> still says I spent 30m
19:42:56  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> yeah but i spent it on trees.
19:43:02  <Stablean> <travstr> hm ok
19:43:12  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> grunthaddan ridge now thinks of me as "poor"
19:43:18  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> despite al these trees
19:43:29  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> ah well
19:43:37  <Stablean> <Iamgoofball> i'll afk for the day and come back to 10 million to play with
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19:44:04  <Stablean> <travstr> see now those bridges aren't needed any more
19:44:06  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
19:44:12  <Stablean> <travstr> oh wait
19:44:14  <Stablean> <travstr> oh no
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19:45:04  <Stablean> <bon> seriously...adif kinda needs to get out of the way here :|
19:46:06  <Stablean> <bon> I'll just let the 200kph train ram these little blue things maybe .. who knows heh
19:47:08  <Stablean> <travstr> fyi solo
19:47:16  <Stablean> <travstr> i've noticed your signalling is too close fo your trains
19:47:23  <Stablean> <travstr> they don't queue properly
19:47:35  <Stablean> <solo> i know, i hope theres a better engine soon ;)
19:47:42  <Stablean> <bon> or get proper train length
19:47:44  <Stablean> <bon> :)
19:47:50  <Stablean> <solo> ye thats much easier
19:47:53  <Stablean> <solo> lets do that :)
19:48:11  <Stablean> <solo> but the queue up alright :D
19:48:13  <Stablean> <solo> they*
19:48:19  <Stablean> <bon> not really
19:48:25  <Stablean> <travstr> my sign
19:48:27  <Stablean> <travstr> look
19:48:37  <Stablean> <Djanxy> also think trav should worry about his own trains queuing :D
19:48:41  <Stablean> <solo> ye i know
19:48:47  <Stablean> <travstr> djanxy i'm working on it
19:48:49  <Stablean> <solo> i cant make another tunnel
19:48:59  <Stablean> <travstr> lol it's just that i noticed that while working on mine
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19:49:09  <Stablean> <Djanxy> if you want some help i can join in a sec - bored ;)
19:49:11  <Stablean> <travstr> i have an idea
19:49:34  <Stablean> <travstr> see my sign near my forest
19:49:37  <Stablean> <solo> tried
19:49:43  <Stablean> <travstr> o :/
19:49:49  <Stablean> <solo> ;)
19:50:08  <Stablean> <travstr> what if you just get all the tunnel going to the same exit
19:50:10  <Stablean> <solo> lets do something else
19:50:13  <Stablean> <travstr> like the same distance
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19:51:41  <Stablean> <travstr> i see djanxy but
19:51:44  <Stablean> <travstr> it's a bit awkward
19:51:52  <Stablean> <travstr> besides those other bridges aren't being used now
19:51:54  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
19:52:13  <Stablean> <Djanxy> um, see the trains not moving ?
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19:52:21  <Stablean> <travstr> very clearly :/
19:52:41  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how   things  going to day
19:53:05  <Stablean> <travstr> okay happy how about you
19:53:12  <Stablean> <bon> doing ok happy..about to kill all non-food freights and focus on pax/farm alone
19:53:15  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good  thanks
19:53:25  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice
19:53:27  <Stablean> <bon> these stupid utter oil/lumber/coal production rates are getting to me again so :->
19:57:21  <Stablean> <travstr> omg solo
19:57:23  <Stablean> <travstr> for real
19:57:25  <Stablean> <travstr> SIGH
19:57:37  <Stablean> <solo> what now
19:57:43  <Stablean> <travstr> ugh never mind
19:58:11  <Stablean> <solo> :p
19:58:38  <Stablean> <Djanxy> want company trav or prefer alone ?
20:00:27  <Stablean> <solo> rawr\
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20:00:35  <Stablean> <solo> hey look at that
20:00:41  <Stablean> <solo> its my brother :)
20:00:41  <Stablean> <Shader> ...
20:00:43  <Stablean> <travstr> look at wat
20:00:46  <Stablean> <travstr> oh hey boo
20:00:50  <Stablean> <Shader> hey
20:00:56  <Stablean> <travstr> ugh i give up
20:00:58  <Stablean> <solo> wassup :)
20:01:00  <Stablean> <travstr> forever jammed
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20:01:06  <Stablean> <solo> and theres my other brother
20:01:08  <Stablean> <solo> nice
20:01:22  <Stablean> <martin> yo :)
20:01:24  <Stablean> <Djanxy> trav, want company or prefer flying solo?
20:01:30  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm okay
20:01:32  <Stablean> <solo> hey:)
20:01:34  <Stablean> <Djanxy> alright
20:01:45  <Stablean> <travstr> but thanks
20:02:03  <Stablean> <Shader> ech you mad
20:02:10  <Stablean> <solo> get confused :>
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20:02:42  <Stablean> <Shader> so much useless stuff :D
20:02:48  <Stablean> <bon> aye :)
20:02:54  <Stablean> <solo> i like the simultanious loaders so screw you :-)
20:03:04  <Stablean> <solo> buit the overflows are all needed
20:03:06  <Stablean> <paraszt> hi
20:03:28  <Stablean> <Shader> hey how about double tunnel near Drundhattan
20:03:28  <Stablean> <bon> why did I have almost same unit of cargo amount as you with 20% of the trains a few years ago? :)
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20:03:50  <Stablean> <solo> cuz i have short ones
20:04:00  <Stablean> <solo> drundhattan?
20:04:06  <Stablean> <Shader> ye
20:04:12  <Stablean> <bon> solo...that still doesn't help explain why only 60 trains could equal "supposedly 500 trains" ... much less junctions needed too
20:04:18  <Stablean> <bon> but what am I to say
20:04:34  <Stablean> <solo> you know if i want to go for lot of cash or cargo i would build 2000 trains in 6 hours
20:04:45  <Stablean> <solo> but this is more complex, i like trying this ;)
20:04:51  <Stablean> <travstr> and a separate island
20:04:53  <Stablean> <travstr> lolololo
20:04:55  <Stablean> <travstr> trololo
20:05:01  <Stablean> <solo> ye and a seperate island next time would be very nice
20:05:03  <Stablean> <bon> island with only you and me alone right? :)
20:05:09  <Stablean> <travstr> that would be fun
20:05:11  <Stablean> <travstr> next time ^^
20:05:21  <Stablean> <solo> but i squeezed in 4x rails so its enough :>
20:05:24  <Stablean> <bon> as long as you...don't swipe my passengers? :P
20:05:27  <Stablean> <travstr> same lol
20:05:37  <Stablean> <travstr> okay fine we have separate cities i suppose
20:05:39  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
20:05:41  <Stablean> <travstr> brb
20:05:47  <Stablean> <bon> *throws some raw lumbers at travstr to get out of my way*? hehehe .. just joking ;)
20:05:51  <Stablean> <travstr> :o
20:05:53  <Stablean> <Shader> solo but its not complex you just did 4x line ring
20:05:55  <Stablean> <solo> wheres that tunnel you are talkign about shader?
20:05:57  <Stablean> <travstr> ok brb fa reelz
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20:06:13  <Stablean> <Shader> train 566
20:06:15  <Stablean> <Shader> check quickly ;p
20:06:25  <Stablean> <solo> i did
20:06:28  <Stablean> <solo> but thats another one
20:06:46  <Stablean> <solo> clicked wrong one perhaps xD
20:06:54  <Stablean> <solo> ok, again
20:06:56  <Stablean> <Shader> hmm there is jam from time to time
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20:07:03  <Stablean> <Shader> 76
20:07:05  <Stablean> <Shader> no
20:07:15  <Stablean> <solo> xD
20:07:17  <Stablean> <Shader> 450
20:07:24  <Stablean> <solo> ah yes
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20:08:22  <Stablean> <Shader> near Great Marham
20:08:24  <Stablean> <solo> \
20:08:26  <Stablean> <Shader> this unload station
20:08:34  <Stablean> <Shader> why do you merge 3 into 2 before station
20:08:51  <Stablean> <solo> terraform water is 16,0000000000 euros here
20:08:54  <Stablean> <solo> :)
20:09:06  <Stablean> <solo> besides that i dont need more
20:09:08  <Stablean> <Shader> you have to be profitable then
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20:09:46  <Stablean> <Shader> add more trains and we will see :D
20:09:56  <Stablean> <solo> well
20:10:02  <Stablean> <solo> all stations are filled
20:10:17  <Stablean> <solo> im waiting for next engine too :p
20:10:32  <Stablean> <Shader> 67% I would say it sucks :D
20:10:42  <Stablean> <bon> aye
20:10:44  <Stablean> <solo> :)
20:12:03  <Stablean> <Shader> when it resets?
20:12:09  <Stablean> <solo> about 300 years probably
20:12:15  <Stablean> <solo> but im done
20:12:17  <Stablean> <bon> less for sure
20:12:39  <Stablean> <Shader> I like skyscrapers :D
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20:14:30  <Stablean> <Shader> you should be trying 80k solo instead of this :D
20:14:40  <Stablean> <solo> i like this leave me alone
20:14:42  <Stablean> <solo> :)
20:14:45  <Stablean> <bon> agreed shader
20:14:52  <Stablean> <Shader> :D
20:15:15  <Stablean> <travstr> i'mback
20:15:18  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
20:15:20  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb
20:15:40  <Stablean> <travstr> ty :>
20:15:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> np
20:15:46  <Stablean> <bon> you were saying split bridges should be same length like a clone of each others?
20:16:24  <Stablean> <Shader> Solo grow Chuham
20:16:30  <Stablean> <Shader> :D
20:16:48  <Stablean> <solo> :)
20:17:06  <Stablean> <solo> win
20:17:09  <Stablean> <Shader> hehe
20:17:19  <Stablean> <Shader> massfunding works?
20:17:21  <Stablean> <solo> still 0 pop
20:17:21  <Stablean> <solo> xD
20:17:27  <Stablean> <travstr> umm
20:17:57  <Stablean> <bon> umm what? :)
20:18:25  <Stablean> <solo> ye works it keeps trying to find a spot
20:18:27  <Stablean> <travstr> lalll
20:18:51  <Stablean> <Shader> ech
20:19:17  <Stablean> <solo> last spot is really hard to find
20:19:24  <Stablean> <solo> its right there man would say
20:19:40  <Stablean> <solo> give up
20:19:42  <Stablean> <Shader> hmm
20:19:56  <Stablean> <travstr> who
20:20:02  <Stablean> <travstr> where
20:20:04  <Stablean> <solo> what
20:20:06  <Stablean> <solo> when
20:20:06  <Stablean> <Shader> yeah city got problems with finding spot when only few left
20:21:10  <Stablean> <eirc> oh yeah slh
20:21:20  <Stablean> <eirc> took about 200 years to build
20:22:06  <Stablean> <solo> +40 trains, jam incoming :>
20:22:21  <Stablean> <solo> just kidding, its jam-free zone
20:22:43  <Stablean> <Shader> hmm
20:23:09  <Stablean> <Shader> you lucky I forgot yours pw :D
20:23:23  <Stablean> <solo> you never knew this one brother :)
20:23:59  <Stablean> <Shader> hmm its not 123 :D
20:24:05  <Stablean> <jrambo> let me tell you a rambo-fail
20:24:11  <Stablean> <travstr> solo
20:24:14  <Stablean> <solo> travstr
20:24:16  <Stablean> <travstr> can you do me a favour
20:24:18  <Stablean> <solo> sign me
20:24:24  <Stablean> <travstr> hm
20:24:26  <Stablean> <travstr> never mind
20:24:32  <Stablean> <solo> remove all tracks?;p
20:24:35  <Stablean> <travstr> not quite
20:24:37  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
20:24:39  <Stablean> <Shader> :D
20:24:45  <Stablean> <jrambo> one day i played on a random server and connected every ore mine. forgot to set the password, a guy came and messed the complete game up XD
20:24:47  <Stablean> <travstr> where's the fun in that lol
20:24:53  <Stablean> <solo> if youd remove all i can make a 5th track :D
20:25:11  <Stablean> <travstr> if you remove all i could make a 100th track :D
20:25:14  <Stablean> <Shader> that would be too easy :D
20:25:22  <Stablean> <Shader> try to do 5th now :D
20:25:32  <Stablean> <solo> 4th was already a pain :D
20:25:38  <Stablean> <travstr> 4th was easy for me :p
20:25:41  <Stablean> <jrambo> shader, you can do some terraforming if you get in :P
20:25:43  <Stablean> <solo> you only have 2
20:25:45  <Stablean> <Shader> ech as always Solo
20:25:45  <Stablean> <travstr> 5th is impossible
20:25:47  <Stablean> <travstr> i have 4 lol
20:25:53  <Stablean> <solo> no i mean 4 both way
20:25:55  <Stablean> <travstr> in the main section i have four
20:25:57  <Stablean> <solo> so 8 in your words
20:25:59  <Stablean> <travstr> ...
20:26:01  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
20:26:11  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy you there?
20:26:17  <Stablean> <travstr> but your 8 doesnt count because you're going around ;)
20:26:28  <Stablean> <solo> huh xD
20:26:36  <Stablean> <solo> its integrated :>
20:26:38  <Stablean> <Shader> btw Geldis try to do something on our server
20:26:45  <Stablean> <Shader> he have not bad style but he is slow :D
20:26:55  <Stablean> <solo> slower ;)
20:27:06  <Stablean> <Shader> today I tried also but rubbish start :(
20:27:16  <Stablean> <Shader> no coal on one side so...
20:27:18  <Stablean> <travstr> *is first on leaderboards*
20:27:20  <Stablean> <travstr> game ovah
20:27:28  <Stablean> <bon> shader...can I suggest something?
20:27:35  <Stablean> <Shader> ye?
20:27:53  <Stablean> <solo> here we go :)
20:28:00  <Stablean> <bon> as soon as I finish laying out the new express're free to see how much space is left on my island for your own freight trains ok?
20:28:08  <Stablean> <bon> don't start right now tho
20:28:38  <Stablean> <Shader> mhmm competition is allowed?
20:28:44  <Stablean> <solo> dont think so
20:28:46  <Stablean> <solo> not sure
20:28:49  <Stablean> <bon> well I've already pulled out of the stupid oil/timber business
20:28:59  <Stablean> <bon> you missed a lot of the trackages I used to have :)
20:29:13  <Stablean> <solo> you got plenty of space there bon
20:29:15  <Stablean> <bon> so...after I finish my new pax/farm routes...anything else not served you can have it
20:29:39  <Stablean> <Shader> only few farms left :S
20:30:02  <Stablean> <solo> trains are cheap
20:30:04  <Stablean> <bon> shader..doesn't have more than 1M worth of liquids you could possibly use
20:30:14  <Stablean> <bon> but let me finish my thing first
20:30:22  <Stablean> <Shader> ok go on :D
20:30:40  <Stablean> <solo> tell shader about liquids...
20:30:46  <Stablean> <solo> hes polish
20:32:25  <Stablean> <solo> jamfree world :)
20:32:34  <Stablean> <travstr> i wish
20:32:44  <Stablean> <travstr> um can you make a small change pls solo
20:33:04  <Stablean> <Shader> remove half network plz :D
20:33:10  <Stablean> <solo> that wont be a small change xD
20:33:26  <Stablean> <solo> hmm
20:33:28  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
20:33:34  <Stablean> <travstr> i need the ramp you're using for my station
20:33:38  <Stablean> <solo> thought so
20:33:44  <Stablean> <travstr> as you see it's backed up lol
20:34:08  <Stablean> <travstr> thanksboo <3 appriciate it
20:34:15  <Stablean> <solo> and now?;p
20:34:21  <Stablean> <Shader> so can I start? :D
20:34:23  <Stablean> <travstr> um
20:34:25  <Stablean> <travstr> idk yet
20:34:27  <Stablean> <solo> ^^
20:34:33  <Stablean> <bon> shader just wait a moment pls ok? :P
20:34:55  <Stablean> <Shader> I will do some ships if possible :D
20:34:57  <Stablean> <solo> haha
20:34:59  <Stablean> <Shader> ow
20:35:02  <Stablean> <bon> shader..ships will bankrupt you tho
20:35:04  <Stablean> <solo> instant bankrupt for you
20:35:06  <Stablean> <solo> <3
20:35:20  <Stablean> <bon> just wait a moment ok?? :)
20:35:22  <Stablean> <Shader> cant start new company anyway :)
20:36:24  <Stablean> <bon> always could ask djanxy as he doesn't really have a company ;)
20:36:40  <Stablean> <solo> just let him join you
20:36:47  <Stablean> <bon> why not YOU?
20:36:53  <Stablean> <bon> :)
20:36:55  <Stablean> <solo> he will x10 your net worth in 1 year
20:36:58  <Stablean> <solo> :p
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20:37:06  <Stablean> <bon> solo what did I said 4 times? pax/farm only
20:37:08  <Stablean> <Shader> Solo wont let me in :D
20:37:08  <Stablean> <bon> :)
20:37:11  <Stablean> <solo> mine no nobody touches mine
20:37:18  <Stablean> <bon> then why did you suggest it duh?
20:37:20  <Stablean> <Shader> I will just clone few trains to screw him :D
20:37:20  <Stablean> <bon> :)
20:37:26  <Stablean> <solo> overflow will save me shader
20:37:33  <Stablean> <solo> i dont think this network CAN jam
20:37:39  <Stablean> <Shader> I can try :D
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20:38:35  <Stablean> <Shader> exits can jam
20:39:01  <Stablean> <solo> ye but the network will always keep flowing, it might go very slowly :p
20:39:11  <Stablean> <Shader> slower = jam :D
20:39:17  <Stablean> <Shader> look 303
20:39:19  <Stablean> <solo> naaah
20:39:31  <Stablean> <Shader> bad design :D
20:39:37  <Stablean> <solo> thats intentional:[
20:39:43  <Stablean> <Shader> ofcourse :D
20:39:54  <Stablean> <travstr> GRID. LOCK. CITY.
20:40:00  <Stablean> <travstr> Everything is screwed
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20:41:18  <Stablean> <Shader> haha haxor
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20:43:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> shader  u can  john   company  15 but  doont  doo a password
20:43:46  <Stablean> <Shader> I just check trainset
20:44:00  <Stablean> <solo> he animal expres is cool
20:44:02  <Stablean> <solo> the*
20:44:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  thats  fine
20:46:34  <Stablean> <Shader> so why colors for rails?
20:46:52  <Stablean> <solo> for building its usefull to see where you are building at
20:46:58  <Stablean> <bon> not really
20:47:08  <Stablean> <solo> building in a web like mine i use it effectively
20:47:18  <Stablean> <Shader> heh
20:47:18  <Stablean> <bon> solo...then you're not using it for your network :)
20:47:18  <Stablean> <solo> quickly lose track :)
20:47:36  <Stablean> <Shader> good players can do that without colors :D
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20:47:42  <Stablean> <bon> aye shader
20:47:45  <Stablean> <solo> ye unfortunately im not as good as you :)
20:47:49  <Stablean> <Shader> xD
20:47:55  <Stablean> <bon> solo..then let him fix you
20:47:55  <Stablean> <bon> :p
20:48:02  <Stablean> <solo> the 5  1vs1's i won explained that
20:48:04  <Stablean> <solo> :D
20:48:14  <Stablean> <Shader> haxors :D
20:48:22  <Stablean> <bon> solo so pls explain why I was able to move almost equal amount of cargo with 20% of the trains?
20:48:24  <Stablean> <bon> :)
20:48:27  <Stablean> <Shader> och come on I won special event :)
20:48:37  <Stablean> <solo> eh
20:48:44  <Stablean> <solo> you are much better bon
20:48:46  <Stablean> <solo> my bad
20:48:57  <Stablean> <solo> yes how was it, i heard it was bugged again :p
20:48:59  <Stablean> <solo> gold
20:50:53  <Stablean> <solo> :D
20:51:01  <Stablean> <solo> we are integrating
20:51:03  <Stablean> <Jurny Jaś> solo teach me !
20:51:29  <Stablean> <bon> jurny you can find better teachers :P
20:52:03  <Stablean> <solo> im so hated by bad players lately :p
20:52:05  <Stablean> <travstr> solo why red
20:52:09  <Stablean> <travstr> that's so confusing LOL
20:52:11  <Stablean> <solo> ye :p
20:52:13  <Stablean> <solo> okok
20:52:17  <Stablean> <travstr> no it's fine
20:52:19  <Stablean> <travstr> keep it
20:52:22  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm just saying
20:52:33  <Stablean> <travstr> you don't have to change it lol
20:52:36  <Stablean> <Jurny Jaś> disco disco
20:52:50  <Stablean> <bon> shader why are you in my way? :/
20:53:00  <Stablean> <solo> blue it is
20:55:10  <Stablean> <travstr> WHAT DO I DO
20:55:16  <Stablean> <travstr> THIS STATION IS SHIT
20:55:22  <Stablean> <bon> shader?
20:55:48  <Stablean> <solo> perhaps stop full load there
20:56:03  <Stablean> <travstr> no full load is fine
20:56:07  <Stablean> <travstr> it's the entrances
20:56:13  <Stablean> <travstr> they've so crappy lol
20:56:19  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm plannig to change it all right now
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20:58:01  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
20:58:11  <Stablean> <travstr> not so good actually
20:58:13  <Stablean> <travstr> omg
20:58:23  <Stablean> <solo> xD
20:58:33  <Stablean> <solo> perhaps roro?
20:58:36  <Stablean> <bon> shader....are you even listening?
20:58:58  <Stablean> <bon> SHADER I SAID YOU'RE IN THE WAY
20:59:16  <Stablean> <Shader> dont scream on me
20:59:18  <Stablean> <Shader> where sign
20:59:20  <Stablean> <bon> then why are you not even listening?
20:59:28  <Stablean> <travstr> brb
20:59:30  <Stablean> <Shader> busy building perhaps
20:59:52  <Stablean> <bon> well I said I'm not done..I still need the rails
21:00:03  <Stablean> <solo> they look like the catapillar from wooden rollercoaster of rollercoaster tycoon
21:01:01  <Stablean> <bon>'ll have to remove a lot of that soon tbh
21:01:27  <Stablean> <solo> didnt you invite him to come to your island
21:01:29  <Stablean> <solo> im so confused
21:01:33  <Stablean> <bon> solo..nope
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21:01:40  <Stablean> <Shader> :S
21:01:48  <Stablean> <Shader> ok I  go
21:02:10  <Stablean> <travstr> ok back
21:02:14  <Stablean> <travstr> time to sort this mess
21:02:16  <Stablean> *** cryo[PL] has left the game (general timeout)
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21:02:22  <Stablean> <solo> what a meany
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21:02:36  <Stablean> <solo> he told you to use everything that was unused and now he makes you run off :p
21:02:38  <Stablean> <travstr> whoaaaaaaaaaa
21:02:44  <Stablean> <bon> solo...nope you read it wrong
21:03:04  <Stablean> <solo> i just read back it was there
21:03:26  <Stablean> <solo> or was that only AFTER you finished your own tracks? (next week tuesday)
21:03:36  <Stablean> <solo> :-)
21:04:14  <Stablean> <travstr> do do you think you could move these tunnels one tile left
21:04:14  <Stablean> *** Shader has joined spectators
21:04:19  <Stablean> <travstr> sorry i'm so tight on space
21:04:29  <Stablean> <travstr> i can't do anything else
21:04:31  <Stablean> <solo> ye that looks possible
21:04:35  <Stablean> <solo> give me asec
21:05:45  <Stablean> <travstr> tytyty
21:05:51  <Stablean> <solo> np np
21:06:43  <Stablean> <travstr> lol whoa
21:06:49  <Stablean> <solo> cool now i have more bridges
21:06:55  <Stablean> <solo> xd
21:06:59  <Stablean> <travstr> u mean tunnels
21:07:02  <Stablean> <solo> yes tunnels
21:07:20  <Stablean> <solo> :)
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21:09:23  <Stablean> <travstr> muuuuch better
21:09:33  <Stablean> <travstr> i suppose
21:10:47  <Stablean> <travstr> oty
21:10:53  <Stablean> <solo> :-)
21:11:03  <Stablean> <solo> control click starts or stops it
21:11:06  <Stablean> <solo> easy tip
21:11:28  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm
21:12:10  <Stablean> <bon> more old line ripped up...still many new ones to put down yet :-s
21:12:37  <Stablean> <solo> :DDD
21:12:45  <Stablean> <solo> sell some trains, really
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21:12:56  <Stablean> <bon> what you mean?
21:13:03  <Stablean> <solo> not you
21:13:07  <Stablean> <bon> ah :)
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21:18:09  <Stablean> <travstr> hm
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21:27:41  <Stablean> <travstr> this is the weirdest station
21:27:47  <Stablean> <travstr> what the hell have I created
21:27:54  <Stablean> <Lord Aro> where?
21:28:00  <Stablean> <travstr> i'll sign it
21:28:26  <Stablean> <travstr> it's near little mafingbourne
21:28:30  <Stablean> <travstr> use town directory i guess
21:28:49  <Stablean> <Lord Aro> oh dear :D
21:29:23  <Stablean> <Lord Aro> that is one unholy mess of track :D
21:29:41  <Stablean> <travstr> well it was worse before
21:29:44  <Stablean> <travstr> much worse
21:32:12  <Stablean> <solo> tiny jam
21:36:10  <Stablean> <eirc> murderers!
21:36:28  <Stablean> <travstr> oh i made the platforms too long
21:36:30  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
21:36:32  <Stablean> <travstr> oops
21:38:06  <Stablean> <Lord Aro> D:
21:38:09  <Stablean> <travstr> why are you building across my trains
21:38:11  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
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21:46:06  <Stablean> <bon> wb djanxy? :)
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21:46:12  <Stablean> <bon> ic
21:46:12  <Stablean> <travstr> or no
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21:53:25  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  all
21:53:29  <Stablean> <travstr> hey
21:53:31  <Stablean> <eirc> hello
21:53:31  <Stablean> <solo> hey
21:53:31  <Stablean> <bon> hi happy?
21:53:31  <Stablean> <travstr> :>
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21:53:41  <Stablean> <bon> heh
21:55:11  <Stablean> <travstr> i think i've made the station worse
21:55:11  <Stablean> <travstr> omg
21:55:33  <Stablean> <bon> need a "god undo" button?
21:55:33  <Stablean> <bon> heh
21:55:45  <Stablean> <travstr> i guess i do lol
21:55:59  <Stablean> <travstr> come and have a look for me pls
21:56:05  <Stablean> <travstr> i have no idea what i'm doing any more
21:56:11  <Stablean> <bon> bit busy...a few minutes sorry :-s
21:56:17  <Stablean> <travstr> that's ok
21:58:28  <Stablean> <travstr> omg
21:58:29  <Stablean> <travstr> what a genius idea
21:58:55  <Stablean> <bon> ???
21:59:09  <Stablean> <travstr> i've separated my goods trains from my other trains
21:59:15  <Stablean> <travstr> so they shouldn't cross
21:59:17  <Stablean> <travstr> in theory
21:59:20  <Stablean> <travstr> making it much more efficient
21:59:23  <Stablean> <solo> very good
22:01:45  <Stablean> <solo> owkej
22:01:48  <Stablean> <solo> im off to bed
22:01:54  <Stablean> <solo> gn8
22:02:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> tgn
22:02:11  <Stablean> *** solo has left the game (leaving)
22:02:17  <Stablean> <travstr> no solo wait :(
22:02:22  <Stablean> <travstr> i need you to move stuff :(
22:02:40  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> to  late  he just  gon
22:02:46  <Stablean> <travstr> i know lol never mind
22:05:57  <Stablean> <bon> it six already?
22:06:07  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
22:06:21  <Stablean> <bon> *goes to make my pan supper now*  >_<
22:06:27  <Stablean> <bon> will finish the last parts soon
22:07:31  <Stablean> <bon> but hmm yeah now someone can feel free to join the long as they stay away from the areas that still has yellow purrails as I'm going to move them around big time
22:07:41  <Stablean> <travstr> okay
22:07:52  <Stablean> <bon> there's just one small not put bridge or anything where its 4 tracks wide
22:07:58  <Stablean> <bon> thats the future station spots when I finish eating :)
22:08:00  <Stablean> *** Lord Aro has left the game (leaving)
22:08:00  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
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22:08:18  <Stablean> <bon> and yes travstr you can use the forests if you want :P
22:08:24  <Stablean> <bon> afk now ;)
22:08:27  <Stablean> <travstr> hehe
22:08:33  <Stablean> <travstr> maybe
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22:15:44  <Stablean> <travstr> LOL
22:16:00  <Stablean> <travstr> andy babe
22:16:06  <Stablean> <travstr> try to avoid that
22:19:12  <Stablean> <bon> back for a few minutes
22:19:18  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...avoid what?
22:19:29  <Stablean> <travstr> he had a crash
22:19:35  <Stablean> <bon> oh
22:19:37  <Stablean> <travstr> can you see my station pls xo
22:20:09  <Stablean> <bon> sign?
22:20:20  <Stablean> <travstr> signd
22:20:55  <Stablean> <bon> umm.....
22:20:55  <Stablean> <bon> don't know what to tell you
22:20:55  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
22:30:05  <Stablean> <bon> afk for a bit again
22:37:04  <Stablean> <bon> back now
22:37:10  <Stablean> <travstr> wb bro
22:41:48  <Stablean> <travstr> holy CRAP
22:41:50  <Stablean> <travstr> this is AWESOME
22:42:00  <Stablean> <bon> hm?
22:42:06  <Stablean> <travstr> i'll sign you
22:42:20  <Stablean> <travstr> follow that path
22:42:54  <Stablean> <bon> one sec
22:43:04  <Stablean> <Andy G> no wonder the server is running so slow
22:43:19  <Stablean> <bon> what you mean? fine here
22:45:47  <Stablean> <bon> hm?
22:45:54  <Stablean> <travstr> see '!here'
22:45:56  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...what do I look at??
22:46:10  <Stablean> <travstr> the path i carved
22:46:16  <Stablean> <travstr> through the mountains lol
22:57:32  <Stablean> <travstr> WHY HERE
22:57:34  <Stablean> <travstr> WHY NOW
22:57:36  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
22:57:42  <Stablean> <bon> ?
22:58:12  <Stablean> <bon> travstr?
22:58:14  <Stablean> <travstr> two trains crashed
22:58:20  <Stablean> <bon> oh...heh
22:58:26  <Stablean> <travstr> outside the congested station
22:58:32  <Stablean> <travstr> so now it's getting much worse
22:58:52  <Stablean> <bon> mm I see :-s
23:07:30  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving)
23:13:39  <Stablean> <bon> need to afk for a while now...will add more trains when back :)
23:13:41  <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving)
23:13:43  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
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23:57:04  <Stablean> <eirc> omg i can go to sleep now
23:57:14  <Stablean> <eirc> rebuilt the whole network
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