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00:14:21 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 00:15:13 <Stablean> <bon> I see I paid off loan once again...heh .. talk about only needing 20 minutes to do that 00:21:37 <Stablean> <bon> meh not sure I like the way two very different trainsets are mixed 00:21:40 <Stablean> <bon> but :-s 00:22:07 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I'm not used to lots of these grfs 00:31:03 <Stablean> <bon> heh nice I knew it... the EF1 doesn't care much for slopes 00:31:10 <Stablean> <bon> guess its time to kill the old doublehead steam 00:34:59 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher joined the game 00:35:14 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi again 00:35:32 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> hi 00:35:36 <Stablean> <bon> hi woodbutcher how're you? 00:35:50 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> good thanks you? 00:36:01 <Stablean> <bon> doing ok atm 00:36:19 <Stablean> <bon> slow night so ehh...going be on and off the keyboard ... fun :) 00:36:29 <Stablean> <bon> about to kill six steam soon tho ;) 00:43:39 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has started a new company (#10) 00:43:48 <Stablean> <bon> heh...slashed runcost by more than half but still moving ore almost just as quickly 00:43:54 <Stablean> <bon> got to love these little EF1's :) 00:49:05 <Stablean> <bon> ughh.. 616 passengers just from one single hotel? dayumm 00:49:11 <Stablean> <bon> these things are a bit silly if you ask me heh 00:49:25 <Stablean> <bon> good thing for the above-ground tube system to remove most of these :P 00:49:52 <Stablean> <bon> heh.. 693 ... what is wrong with these things X-) 00:50:11 <Stablean> <bon> guess may as well as improve the express line too 00:50:37 <Stablean> <CGW> bon lend me some money, im poor 00:50:47 <Stablean> <bon> already deep into loan so can't sorry 00:51:05 <Stablean> <CGW> ok no problem 00:51:07 <Stablean> <bon> np 00:52:46 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol4 00:52:53 <Stablean> <bon> ? 00:53:03 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> didn't even connect my line and i'm out of cash 00:53:25 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> epic fail 00:55:31 <Stablean> <bon> meh I almost forgot the rail emu can't take mail 00:55:41 <Stablean> <bon> oh well convert again...to overhead....for now 00:57:04 <Stablean> <bon> be back soon 00:57:14 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> k cya 01:07:36 <Stablean> <bon> back for a moment 01:11:11 <Stablean> <bon> afk again :) 01:15:28 *** happy_ has quit IRC 01:16:14 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has joined spectators 01:16:26 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol 01:16:40 <Stablean> <Djanxy> what a bargain ! 01:17:10 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I know sold off some track and made i tiny profit 01:17:21 <Stablean> <Djanxy> hehe 01:17:44 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> track costs are too high in this game 01:17:51 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah 01:22:57 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has started a new company (#10) 01:23:53 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol 01:30:09 <Stablean> <bon> having fun woodbutching? :P 01:30:11 <Stablean> <bon> heh 01:30:22 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yep 01:35:44 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has joined spectators 01:35:46 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> afk 01:35:52 <Stablean> <bon> ok 01:38:23 <Stablean> <bon> ughh looks like gasoline is a bit far...probably something for tomorrow :-s 01:38:28 <Stablean> <bon> <is going to bed soon so 01:42:23 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has joined company #10 01:42:31 <Stablean> <bon> heh hi? ;) 01:42:46 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> back 01:44:30 <Stablean> <bon> I'm about to go in a moment tho 01:47:00 <Stablean> <bon> see you tomorrow ok woodbutcher? 01:47:04 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya 01:47:22 <Stablean> <bon> oh and don't mind if you see me with several new trains and little fund to play around with once again heh :p 01:47:36 <Stablean> <bon> just check my note....thats quite a distance anyway ;) 01:47:42 <Stablean> <bon> have fun eithr way..bye :p 01:47:52 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> bye 01:47:54 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 01:48:34 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has left the game (leaving) 02:16:45 <Stablean> *** Speedy joined the game 02:17:16 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (processing map took too long) 02:17:16 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (connection lost) 02:31:15 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (leaving) 02:31:28 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe joined the game 02:32:04 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (leaving) 02:39:46 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe joined the game 03:15:01 <Stablean> *** Yugi_D joined the game 03:16:30 <Stablean> *** Yugi_D has left the game (leaving) 03:51:25 <Stablean> *** Shnupz joined the game 03:51:29 <Stablean> <Shnupz> woodbutcher 03:51:39 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yes? 03:51:42 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I saw your income from last year 03:51:48 <Stablean> <Shnupz> da fuq was that? 03:51:58 <Stablean> <Shnupz> -240K 03:52:40 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i built a lot 03:52:56 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> maxed out my loan 03:52:58 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I can kind of tell 0_o 03:53:08 <Stablean> <Shnupz> What did you end up making? 03:53:24 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> couple of trains/stations 03:53:34 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> nothing tremendous 03:53:40 <Stablean> <Shnupz> The ones near Plidington? 03:53:42 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> but stuff is really expensive 03:53:45 <Stablean> <Shnupz> *Pludington 03:54:03 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Is there a base price GRF active? 03:54:09 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well yeah that's my only area 03:54:17 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> not sure 03:55:11 <Stablean> *** <GriffinOneTwo> joined the game 03:55:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Mind if I join and help out woodbutcher? 03:55:39 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> joe the company vaccuum 03:56:13 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> normally I'd say sure, but I'm broke so you won't be able to do anything for awhile 03:56:19 <Stablean> <Shnupz> meh 03:56:23 <Stablean> <Shnupz> better than spectating 03:56:37 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> start your own co. 03:56:49 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I would but I'll be afk heaps 03:56:56 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> maybe help joe he's in better shape 03:57:14 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well Joe, what is thine response to this query? 03:57:21 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well it takes forever to generate some cash flow 03:57:25 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Sure you can help 03:57:31 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Awesome 03:57:34 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined company #2 03:59:14 <Stablean> <Shnupz> So there's coal and pax trains? 03:59:32 <Stablean> *** <GriffinOneTwo> has left the game (leaving) 03:59:34 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Coal, Pax, and then livestock 03:59:48 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> livestock is south of the other line 03:59:54 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ah, now I see the livestock ones 03:59:56 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Thanks 04:00:16 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> i'm looking to connect the two so I can move the food 04:00:28 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Hmm 04:00:39 <Stablean> <Shnupz> That's gonna be very hilly 04:01:15 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> only up two slopes 04:01:29 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah right where the sign is 04:01:56 <Stablean> <Shnupz> You'll need a second line where the livestock is 04:02:07 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yes 04:02:22 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> rail is super expensive 04:02:40 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> so since I have minimal traffic I'm doing single rail for now 04:02:50 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Makes sense 04:03:08 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> My coal line started as single rail too 04:03:14 <Stablean> <Shnupz> HOLY SHIT 2K FOR ONE TRACK PIECE? 04:03:18 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yup 04:03:30 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> now do you understand to single track 04:03:34 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> 3 or 4 if it's on farmland 04:03:44 <Stablean> <Shnupz> :O 04:04:10 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well, I still think before connecting the coal and livestock lines 04:04:21 <Stablean> <Shnupz> we need to make the livestock one doblue wide 04:04:27 <Stablean> <Shnupz> and add some more traffic 04:05:01 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> not sure what traffic to add 04:05:11 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> but I'm ok making it double... 04:05:18 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> do you want to do that now? 04:05:25 <Stablean> <Shnupz> sure 04:05:32 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'll make sure to not waste anything 04:05:47 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Damn 04:05:54 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Building along the coast is expensive 04:06:05 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I'm going to investigate further that company i bought for and dcide if keeping it open or selling the rail is best 04:06:36 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I think I would head toward the hills 04:06:50 <Stablean> <Shnupz> and avoid the coast? 04:07:00 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> what is a coast tile cost 04:07:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> 3K 04:07:12 <Stablean> <Shnupz> but the trains will go faster 04:07:47 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> coast is fine its not that much more that flat 04:08:01 <Stablean> <Shnupz> sooo... Use the coast? 04:08:08 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yes 04:08:12 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Shit 04:08:16 <Stablean> <Shnupz> we can't 04:08:31 <Stablean> <Shnupz> how will trains coming from the coal line get back onto the livestock line 04:08:39 <Stablean> <Shnupz> if it is along the coast? 04:10:21 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have an idea 04:10:23 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yes bridge where you have the sign that should work 04:10:29 <Stablean> <Shnupz> it might look stupid 04:10:35 <Stablean> <Shnupz> but see it through please 04:10:57 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> stupid and cheap for now, once the income starts flowing faster we can clean it up 04:12:07 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Now there is some space for a junction 04:12:21 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Good 04:13:27 <Stablean> <Shnupz> wee need to send livestock trains to the depot so I can put in signals 04:14:49 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> you should have to to build signals now 04:15:57 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> wow bridges are pretty much the same price as regular rail 04:16:43 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> can we restart the livestock 04:16:49 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yeah 04:17:03 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> done 04:17:09 <Stablean> <Shnupz> we might have to terraform 2 ocean tiles for this to work 04:17:44 <Stablean> <Shnupz> train coming from coal line have to get to the outside line somehow 04:17:54 <Stablean> <Shnupz> unless we reverse the signal directions 04:18:08 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> hmm 04:18:39 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have an idea 04:19:07 <Stablean> <Shnupz> One way path based? 04:19:21 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> if you move the southbound line inland you can create a space 04:19:27 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Nah watch this 04:19:30 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yes one wat path into the stations 04:20:24 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> are you reversing the directions? 04:20:30 <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah 04:22:01 <Stablean> <Shnupz> done 04:22:02 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> So just the livestock portion is reversed? 04:22:17 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yeah 04:22:35 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Line on the right is inbound 04:22:41 <Stablean> <Shnupz> left is outbound 04:23:55 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> give me a sec to add a bridge there and we can cross them back to normal 04:24:13 <Stablean> <Shnupz> WAIT 04:24:21 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Line im building is inbound 04:24:27 <Stablean> <Shnupz> No need to do that 04:24:45 <Stablean> <Shnupz> shit 04:24:53 <Stablean> <Shnupz> how did I not see that 04:25:24 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> just zig it over to the connection 04:25:42 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> careful on deleting track 04:25:48 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> its expensive 04:26:06 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> to rebuils 04:26:08 <Stablean> <Shnupz> long or short bridge? 04:26:50 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ok 04:27:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Basic layout done 04:27:30 <Stablean> <Shnupz> We could actually move the inbound track under the bridge over by 1 tile 04:27:40 <Stablean> <Shnupz> allowing more flat space before the double hill up the bridge 04:28:39 <Stablean> <Shnupz> done 04:28:53 <Stablean> <Shnupz> now it has the most speed it can get 04:29:04 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah 04:29:18 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> just need to rebuild funds now 04:29:29 <Stablean> <Shnupz> But that's just a matter of time 04:29:45 <Stablean> <Shnupz> We can rebuild him; We have the technology 04:29:55 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah 04:30:02 <Stablean> <Shnupz> (Insert 6million dollar man theme song here) 04:30:04 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> better, stronger, faster 04:30:22 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I'm trying to keep building cost down and come back and revisit when we have money 04:30:29 <Stablean> <Shnupz> sure 04:31:03 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> afk 04:31:13 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have an amazing, cheap and efficiency increasing idea 04:31:31 <Stablean> <Shnupz> oh shit, nevermind 04:31:41 <Stablean> <Shnupz> would require a sharp turn right before a hill 04:32:24 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Could work if the livestock pickup station was moved avor by one space to the right 04:32:27 <Stablean> <Shnupz> *over 04:32:37 <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe joined the game 04:33:13 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> We need to get this line fully connected and make a bit of money first 04:33:37 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hi 04:33:43 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Hi 04:33:45 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Hi 04:33:47 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> back 04:33:49 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 04:33:53 <Stablean> <Shnupz> wb 04:33:56 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thx 04:34:02 <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe has started a new company (#11) 04:34:22 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Looks like Fronfingburg is the only accepter of food for us right now 04:35:01 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I say connect at the top of the hill 04:35:19 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> especially if fal for a couple tiles before the join 04:35:27 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Done 04:35:29 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Signal time 04:36:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Use path signals at intersections? 04:36:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Or basic prios? 04:36:16 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> basic priors 04:36:26 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Which line gets priority? 04:36:48 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Right now Fronf to Rard 04:37:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Fronf... 04:37:09 <Stablean> <Shnupz> You mean food? 04:37:16 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Most traffic and it is coming up the hill 04:37:58 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Hang on, so the coal line is priority? 04:38:36 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Food isn't going up north yet 04:38:42 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> they don't accept it 04:38:44 <Stablean> <Shnupz> ok 04:39:50 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Look at the new junction 04:39:56 <Stablean> <Shnupz> some signs 04:40:34 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Either priority for the bridge 04:40:49 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> No give the bridge prio 04:40:55 <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah 04:41:01 <Stablean> <Shnupz> less waiting space on bridge 04:41:15 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> cause we will eventually have additional live stock coming in that direction 04:41:47 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Done 04:42:05 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Actually 04:42:13 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Look at where I just put prios 04:42:31 <Stablean> <Shnupz> We could build a straight line of track there 04:42:38 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Bridge connects at the coast 04:42:45 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Would be slightly faster 04:42:55 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> mark it as a todo, but hold off for now 04:43:54 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I hate these signals its harder to tell what they are 04:44:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Agreed 04:44:03 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> indeed 04:44:05 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> nearly invisable 04:44:07 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> are breakdowns on? 04:44:10 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> no 04:44:12 <Stablean> <Shnupz> DOn't think so 04:45:22 <Stablean> <Shnupz> See the town Abernville? 04:45:32 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Where the livestock is dropped off 04:45:48 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah 04:46:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> We could take metal from the steel mill 04:46:16 <Stablean> <Shnupz> to the fabrication plant to the left of that town 04:46:54 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Metal is already going to fronfingburg's metal fab plant 04:47:20 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> then the building materials head back north 04:47:26 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yeah but Abernville is further away 04:47:32 <Stablean> <Shnupz> = more money 04:47:39 <Stablean> <Shnupz> ...Right? 04:47:49 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yes but much more money to get it connected 04:47:51 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hmmm shit ships............ 04:47:57 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ships are never good 04:48:07 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Heck, helicopters are better 04:48:07 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> especially on this server 04:48:38 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Can we change our team colour? 04:48:50 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Our signs are the same as dredging sites etc 04:48:56 <Stablean> *** TheBroodian joined the game 04:49:28 <Stablean> <Shnupz> This ok? 04:49:31 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> see my signs near fronfingburg 04:49:34 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yup 04:49:40 <Stablean> <Shnupz> ah yeah 04:49:46 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I see them 04:50:18 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> can i reset my company? 04:50:37 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Start a new one mate 04:50:40 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I'm new, I don't know 04:50:46 <Stablean> <Shnupz> After deleting all your stuff 04:50:58 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Your old company will eventually die off 04:51:40 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Are you making money at all chris? 04:51:51 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> nah 04:52:05 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> bridges are expensive lol.... 04:52:08 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I think we can allow the sharp turns for now and bridge closer, the sharp turns will all be downhill 04:52:10 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Just sell everyhting you own except roads 04:52:14 <Stablean> <Shnupz> then start a new company 04:52:33 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yeah downhill sharps are no problem 04:53:03 <Stablean> <Shnupz> It would be nice if we could move Fronfingburg depot to the other side though 04:53:13 <Stablean> <Shnupz> It's the perfect spot to connect the line to 04:53:27 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> i say we remove the depot completely 04:53:53 <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe has joined spectators 04:53:55 <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe has started a new company (#12) 04:54:24 <Stablean> <Shnupz> This work for you? 04:56:22 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ta-da 04:56:24 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> added another station track 04:57:30 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Shit, I have to go now 04:57:34 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> no prob 04:57:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'll be back in about 2 hours 04:57:42 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Good luck ! :) 04:57:42 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya 04:57:42 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> i'll prob be gone then 04:58:44 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> ok 04:59:06 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> next city connection is to the textile plant 04:59:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> actually, I'll just stay in game 04:59:16 <Stablean> <Shnupz> but be afk 05:05:03 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> lol .... too much vehicles ingame.... 05:05:06 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> rly? 05:05:44 <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 05:10:54 <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe has joined spectators 05:10:56 <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe has started a new company (#11) 05:12:46 <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe has joined company #12 05:13:46 <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe has joined company #11 05:14:31 *** Djanxy has quit IRC 05:18:40 <Stablean> *** Yugi_D joined the game 05:20:32 <Stablean> *** Yugi_D has left the game (leaving) 05:32:06 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Are you stealing my sheep? 05:32:12 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> wool 05:32:28 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> ok 05:33:06 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i need more cars!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111 05:38:34 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Can I take the livestock from Rardinghattan? 05:38:56 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> sure why not? 05:39:07 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> cargo is free or isnt it on this server? 05:39:18 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Not sure 05:39:32 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I'm new so I thought I'd ask 05:44:54 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali joined the game 05:45:02 <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi 05:45:05 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hi 05:45:09 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 05:45:19 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> hi 05:53:30 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ugh 05:54:46 <Stablean> *** Mupama joined the game 05:55:06 <Stablean> *** leonkhv_2 joined the game 05:57:10 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has left the game (leaving) 06:02:19 <Stablean> *** Mupama has started a new company (#12) 06:05:03 <Stablean> *** leonkhv_2 has left the game (leaving) 06:05:37 <Stablean> *** Mupama has joined spectators 06:05:45 <Stablean> *** Mupama has joined company #12 06:06:01 <Stablean> *** Mupama has joined spectators 06:06:06 <Stablean> *** Mupama has started a new company (#13) 06:14:25 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 06:14:28 <Stablean> <V453000> hy 06:14:34 <Stablean> *** Mupama has changed his/her name to Satan 06:14:34 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> moo 06:21:28 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> ouch 06:21:46 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> that was me trying to fix drive on the wrong side 06:22:10 <V453000> !rcon set max_roadveh 06:22:10 <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'max_roadveh' is: '20' (min: 0, max: 5000) 06:22:14 <V453000> !rcon set max_roadveh 150 06:22:24 <Stablean> <V453000> added more road vehicles btw 06:22:31 <Stablean> <V453000> trains are so trash that we can get away with it for once 06:22:46 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah 150 is much better thx 06:23:44 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> firs without some cars sucks 06:24:58 <Stablean> <V453000> more like without proper trains :) 06:29:45 <Stablean> <V453000> btw go admire the road tunnels :D 06:31:36 <V453000> !rcon reset_company 6 06:31:36 <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted. 06:32:00 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh wow 06:32:08 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> he was doing good wasn't he? 06:32:14 <Stablean> <V453000> nope 06:32:37 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> didn't he have the big green network? 06:32:47 <Stablean> <V453000> ye 06:35:54 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Shnupz are you back? 06:50:57 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> joe schmue? 06:59:21 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm back 06:59:21 <Stablean> *** Niko joined the game 06:59:25 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> ok 06:59:27 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> wb 06:59:29 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> wb 06:59:31 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> i'm about to leave 06:59:49 <Stablean> <Shnupz> ok 06:59:52 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Most bullshit thing happened 07:00:07 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I deliver meds to the elderly as my job 07:00:22 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Poor woman passed away, found her dead :( 07:00:27 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> :( 07:00:33 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ooh that's bad 07:00:38 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker joined the game 07:00:45 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> sorry man 07:00:51 <Stablean> <Shnupz> thanks 07:00:54 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> moin 07:02:05 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> ok I got the track back to drive on right 07:02:07 <Stablean> <Shnupz> You reversed the signal direction again? 07:02:13 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah 07:02:19 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol 07:02:21 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Now its confusing 07:02:24 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> what 07:02:28 <Stablean> <Shnupz> people drive in the left here :P 07:02:30 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> its all drive on right 07:02:56 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> well at Schmoe Inc, we drive on the right 07:03:02 <Stablean> <Shnupz> lol it's fine man 07:04:08 <Stablean> <Shnupz> afk for 5 brb 07:06:04 <Stablean> *** TheBroodian has left the game (general timeout) 07:06:04 <Stablean> *** TheBroodian has left the game (connection lost) 07:06:26 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Ok, I'm out of here. Keep the company running strong for me 07:06:32 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya 07:07:54 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (general timeout) 07:07:54 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (connection lost) 07:08:57 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 07:09:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> back 07:10:04 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Did Joe leave? :( 07:10:10 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yep 07:10:24 <Stablean> <Satan> Satan remain.. 07:10:37 <Stablean> <V453000> :0 pm returns to a game 2nd day in a row? :D celebrate! 07:10:46 <Stablean> *** Muel joined the game 07:10:53 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 07:10:56 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 07:10:58 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hi 07:11:04 <Stablean> <Satan> i~ 07:11:08 <Stablean> <Shnupz> hi 07:11:28 <Stablean> <Muel> when is my company ? 07:11:42 <Stablean> <Shnupz> goddamnit there needs to be an ability to open links from text chat 07:12:05 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> that would be nice 07:12:31 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Can't be bothered looking up the rules, but are you allowed to industry steal? 07:12:41 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> no 07:13:25 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> woot means "industry steal"? 07:13:32 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> Muel your company closed down for some reason 07:13:46 <Stablean> <Shnupz> When somebody is close to an already used industry 07:13:58 <Stablean> <Shnupz> EG: Coal mines makes 500tonnes per month 07:14:08 <Stablean> <Shnupz> One guy makes a huge coal route with it 07:14:18 <Stablean> <Shnupz> then some guy comes along and builds his station there 07:14:26 <Stablean> <Shnupz> lowering the amount of coal guy 1 can get 07:14:37 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> you mean my coal station? 07:14:43 <Stablean> <Shnupz> nah nah 07:14:49 <Stablean> <Shnupz> saying you did anything 07:14:55 <Stablean> <Muel> :D it is no realy :D bcs i have best company, for i go to sleps 07:14:57 <Stablean> <Shnupz> just aksing if it is allowed in this server 07:15:09 <Stablean> *** Satan has joined company #8 07:15:12 <planetmaker> !rules 07:15:12 <Stablean> planetmaker: Rules are at http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart/Stable 07:15:16 <planetmaker> ^^ 07:15:34 <planetmaker> so stealing is rather not on 07:15:49 <Stablean> *** Satan has joined company #13 07:16:05 <Stablean> <Shnupz> You can close down skyrem transport I think 07:16:13 <Stablean> <Shnupz> He is playing on pink company now 07:18:05 <Stablean> *** Niko has left the game (leaving) 07:18:09 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#6) 07:18:13 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 07:18:22 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 07:18:39 <V453000> Schnupz the wiki can be useful for you in a lot more ways than the rules, but starting with them is a good thing ;) 07:19:01 <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah I know 07:19:15 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Just seriously can;t be bothered looking up a single rule right now :P 07:19:28 <V453000> you should know all of them not a single :) 07:19:35 <Stablean> <Shnupz> shhhhhh 07:19:43 <V453000> no sh 07:19:57 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (leaving) 07:20:53 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> schnupz? 07:20:53 <planetmaker> don't mess with a vengeful admin :-P 07:20:59 <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah? 07:21:21 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> Rardinghattan farm is not connectect with you car station 07:21:33 <Stablean> <Shnupz> hmmm? 07:21:44 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Do you mean you aren't taking my sheep? 07:21:50 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Because I know that 07:21:56 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> no i do wool 07:22:11 <Stablean> <Shnupz> ah ok 07:22:17 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> Laninghall farm 07:22:31 <Stablean> <Shnupz> What about it? 07:22:38 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> you dont get the sheeps from it 07:22:52 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yeah I do 07:23:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> There are livestock trucks loading there right now 07:23:12 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah but from this 07:23:35 <Stablean> <Shnupz> The truck station there is connected to the one to the left 07:23:49 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> 0% transport 07:23:55 <Stablean> <Shnupz> OH 07:23:57 <Stablean> <Shnupz> SHIT 07:24:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> NO I SEE 07:24:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> 8NOW 07:24:12 <Stablean> <Shnupz> FUCK GODDAMMNIT 07:24:18 <Stablean> <Shnupz> shhhhh 07:24:24 <Stablean> <Shnupz> admins didn;t hear that.. right? 07:24:36 <planetmaker> did you say anything? 07:24:46 <Stablean> <Shnupz> nope 07:24:53 <Stablean> <Shnupz> damn 07:25:03 <Stablean> <Shnupz> :O 07:25:05 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :D 07:25:12 <Stablean> <Shnupz> DON'T TAKE MAH SHEEP CHRIS 07:25:36 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i dont like livestock 07:25:46 <Stablean> <Shnupz> phew 07:25:56 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i will feed the farm to produce more 07:26:10 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> Win/Win 07:26:18 <Stablean> <Shnupz> hey ah chris? 07:26:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> can you remove some of the private land so I can get sheep from Redinghattan farm? 07:26:47 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I just want to extend the truck station a little 07:26:49 <V453000> !rcon kick 132 07:26:49 <Stablean> V453000: *** V453000 has left the game (kicked by server) 07:26:49 <Stablean> V453000: *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 07:27:09 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i destroyed my station there 07:27:39 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Nah I mean move the road over one tile 07:28:18 <Stablean> <Shnupz> All better :) 07:31:54 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Hey Mr/Mrs Admin 07:32:00 <V453000> ABUSE 07:32:07 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Miss? 07:32:13 <V453000> it 07:32:24 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Wait! This isn;t a rule thing 07:32:28 <V453000> :D 07:32:34 <Stablean> <Shnupz> It's a casual question 07:32:34 <V453000> kay 07:32:42 <V453000> ok go ahead and you Might not get banned for it 07:32:50 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have an awesome idea for the next non-public game 07:32:58 <V453000> oh god 07:33:10 <Stablean> <Shnupz> See the town Wrendington? 07:33:12 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> get 2cc trainset! 07:33:31 <V453000> Christoph Stüwe is banned 07:33:32 <V453000> :> 07:33:36 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> ey 07:33:51 <V453000> tyranny and censorship 07:33:53 <Stablean> <Shnupz> The Banhammer has been dropped from the heavens 07:34:08 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 07:34:24 <Stablean> <V453000> in other words, 2cc set is severely bad, we dont use it around here unless super exceptional cases 07:34:29 <Stablean> *** Satan has changed his/her name to Mufama 07:34:41 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Anyway V453K 07:34:48 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hmmm k why it is bad? 07:34:50 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Wrendington 07:35:12 <Stablean> <V453000> because it floods the game with like 300 engines out of which only ~5 are actually useful 07:35:22 <Stablean> <V453000> and 5 isnt a nice variety 07:35:35 <planetmaker> so... what's with wrendington? 07:35:54 <Stablean> <Shnupz> So 07:35:56 <Stablean> <V453000> Wrendington doesnt quite look like a place for constructive suggestion 07:35:56 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> it's a bit remote on that island... 07:36:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> We have a 512x512 map 07:36:08 <Stablean> <V453000> no, 512x1024 but go ahead 07:36:14 <Stablean> <Shnupz> With a little island town the size of Wrendington in the centre 07:36:28 <Stablean> <Shnupz> We have to get the little island town to grow 07:36:38 <Stablean> <Shnupz> And to expand, taking over other little islands 07:36:48 <Stablean> <V453000> do that on the Public Server or even ProZone, not here 07:36:50 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Until it covers every nearby little island 07:36:52 <Stablean> <V453000> for many reasons 07:37:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> It was intended to be done on public or ProZone 07:37:12 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I said that from the start -_- 07:37:26 <Stablean> <V453000> kay 07:37:36 <Stablean> <V453000> cause non-public server is a bit unspecific? :D 07:37:48 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Outsaide of the map is a thick ring of land that can be turned into a massive mainline 07:38:02 <Stablean> <Shnupz> So it will be a challenge 07:38:09 <Stablean> <V453000> well sure prepare the map and we can see 07:38:16 <planetmaker> yeah, sounds like scenario for PS or PZ 07:38:22 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ok brb 07:38:28 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Gonna make a map :P 07:38:30 <Stablean> <V453000> PS 256x256 is enough for town growing 07:38:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> as a prototype 07:38:36 <Stablean> <V453000> you cant have 1 town cover all of 512x512 07:38:46 <Stablean> <Shnupz> We have 2 or three evenly spaced 07:39:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> so... 512x1204? 07:39:11 <Stablean> <V453000> out of the question 07:39:23 <planetmaker> 512^2 is totally sufficient 07:39:25 <Stablean> <V453000> you can cover 512x512 so brutally that no client will stay on the server 07:39:30 <planetmaker> ^ 07:39:41 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Okay 07:39:51 <Stablean> <Shnupz> brb with a quick 512^ map 07:39:57 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (leaving) 07:39:59 <Stablean> <V453000> 256*512 or even 256x256 are suitable 07:40:25 <Stablean> <V453000> for mass passenger game even 512x512 is a lot, see for example psg 201 07:40:40 <Stablean> <V453000> and by a lot I mean hell of a lot :P 07:40:54 <Stablean> <V453000> psg 192 was 256x512, go see that for an example :) 07:44:22 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 07:53:26 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Laters, folks 07:53:30 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya 07:53:32 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 07:57:04 <V453000> bai pm 08:01:36 *** Benny has joined #openttdcoop.stable 08:14:07 <Stablean> *** Mufama has joined company #8 08:14:27 <Stablean> *** Mufama has joined company #13 08:21:01 <Stablean> *** Benny joined the game 08:21:20 <Stablean> <Mufama> oh~ Benny nice to meet you... 08:21:30 <Stablean> <Mufama> korean... ^-^ 08:21:32 <Stablean> <Benny> hello 08:21:43 <Stablean> <Benny> you're from korea? : 08:21:54 <Stablean> <Mufama> yeah...... 08:22:01 <Stablean> <Benny> norway :) 08:22:12 <Stablean> <Mufama> hul~ not china? 08:22:34 <Stablean> <Mufama> oh~ same name.... 08:34:50 <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe has left the game (general timeout) 08:34:50 <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe has left the game (connection lost) 08:35:24 <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe joined the game 08:40:00 <Stablean> *** Shnupz joined the game 08:40:05 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> wb 08:40:11 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Damn 08:40:13 <Stablean> <Shnupz> He's gone 08:41:07 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 08:41:23 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Admin, here is the prototype: 08:41:26 <Stablean> <Shnupz> http://www.mediafire.com/?ft7e4m36bo1c9ad 08:41:27 <Webster> Title: CRAZY ARCHIPILEAGO CITY BUILDER (at www.mediafire.com) 08:42:58 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined company #2 08:43:37 <V453000> why dont you use something simple like dropbox :d 08:43:53 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Because I con't get dropbox to work 08:44:07 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Sorry :( 08:44:21 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I took a while because of dinner too 08:46:22 <V453000> uhmmmm the rules are a bit too long :P just put there a map and let people grow stuff, works best 08:46:32 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Okey dokey 08:46:34 <V453000> also, servicing both towns and industries might not be the best of idaes 08:46:48 <V453000> PS, when enabling magic dozer, local authority does not decrease 08:46:56 <V453000> magic dozer is well usable on public server and pro zone 08:47:02 <Stablean> <Shnupz> ? 08:47:22 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm a little confused... 08:47:32 <Stablean> <Shnupz> But does it seem like an alright idea? 08:48:04 <V453000> id suggest, just make a map 08:48:07 <V453000> and let people think of a plan 08:48:11 <V453000> you can make your own plan after all 08:48:41 <Stablean> <Shnupz> ok 08:48:52 <Stablean> <Shnupz> but still, island city building... 08:48:58 <Stablean> <Shnupz> gotta try it someday 08:49:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> :P 08:49:21 <V453000> nothing terribly special about it :) 08:50:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Plot twist, company hq is on the centre island instead of city 08:50:00 <V453000> mainly because towns need to connect with trains 08:50:28 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well, extending land is allowed 08:50:38 <Stablean> <Shnupz> if we allowed land as a bridge people would go overboard 08:50:58 <Stablean> <Shnupz> unless terraforming prices are rediculous 08:51:05 <V453000> costs dont matter 08:51:29 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Not in the later years 08:52:27 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have no idea what to do now 08:52:34 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I was just helping Joe out 08:52:46 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I don't want to mess up his plans :( 08:53:16 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah lol looks complicated your railsystem 08:53:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> not really 08:53:54 <Stablean> <Shnupz> You haven't seen complicated until you see a ProZone match 08:53:58 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 joined the game 08:55:40 <V453000> its not a "match" :-D 08:55:44 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined spectators 08:55:57 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well yeah, it is co-op :P 08:56:04 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has started a new company (#6) 08:57:17 <V453000> welll, you could consider some of the participants challenged 08:57:18 <V453000> mainly mentally 08:57:29 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Challenged? 08:57:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I think you mean graced 08:57:48 <Benny> challenged? i think you mean insane 08:57:50 <Benny> case in point 08:57:59 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Gifted with the patience of a gid 08:58:01 <Stablean> <Shnupz> *god 08:58:08 <Stablean> <Shnupz> *Goomy 08:58:26 <V453000> asdf 08:59:52 <Benny> not gifted 08:59:53 <Benny> just insane 09:00:05 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I will make Fundington the town of dreams 09:00:51 <Stablean> <ROM5419> ah well... 09:00:53 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has started a new company (#12) 09:01:09 <Stablean> <Shnupz> You could join me ROM 09:01:15 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Save some company space 09:01:17 <Stablean> <ROM5419> nah, i'll pass :D 09:10:52 <Stablean> <Shnupz> shit 09:11:02 <Stablean> <Shnupz> do bauxite mines NEED engineering supplies 09:11:08 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> no 09:11:23 <Stablean> <Shnupz> then why is my truck not filling up? :( 09:11:25 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> but if you deliver some you get a boost in production 09:11:41 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> he loads coal ...... 09:11:47 <Stablean> <Shnupz> crap 09:11:50 <Stablean> <Shnupz> didn't refit 09:12:53 <Stablean> <Shnupz> much better 09:13:03 <Stablean> <Shnupz> thanks lol can't believe I didn't see that 09:13:37 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> AFK 09:17:15 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Making money slowly but surely 09:17:15 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok I'm off, cyas. Have fun 09:17:29 <Stablean> <Shnupz> cya :) 09:17:39 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has left the game (leaving) 09:23:32 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined company #2 09:24:04 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined company #6 09:28:05 <Stablean> <Shnupz> AHA 09:28:11 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm not last! :P 09:29:38 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 09:29:42 <Stablean> <bon> mmm hi? :) 09:29:45 <Stablean> <ROM5419> hi 09:29:49 <Stablean> <Shnupz> BON! 09:29:55 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Your back! 09:29:55 <Stablean> <Shnupz> :P 09:30:17 <Stablean> <Shnupz> *you're, before the grammar nazi's attack 09:30:59 <V453000> AUSCHWITZ 09:31:05 <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #1 09:31:07 <Stablean> <bon> heh? 09:32:13 <Stablean> <bon> now to see about catching up about 34 years as usual 09:32:32 <Stablean> <Shnupz> You could buy me out for some more profit 09:33:03 <Stablean> <bon> no thanks 09:33:05 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Pretty sure my company is cheap 09:33:11 <Stablean> <Shnupz> :P 09:33:22 <Stablean> <bon> 1. no rails 2. on wrong island anyway 09:33:24 <Stablean> <bon> ;) 09:33:34 <Stablean> <Shnupz> No rails... yet 09:33:40 <Stablean> <Shnupz> DUN DUN DUN DUN! 09:35:13 <V453000> no rails makes no sense 09:35:29 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well 09:35:35 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have nestled into Fundington 09:35:45 <Stablean> <Shnupz> No space for any major rails here 09:35:51 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'll wait till I have enough money 09:35:57 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Then start big 09:36:56 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Actually, I'm hoping JoeSchmoe buys me out 09:37:06 <Stablean> <bon> and what the hell is joe doing with so many signposts? 09:37:08 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Then I can connect to his rail network 09:37:22 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Me and Joe were working tegother ealier 09:37:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> We had signposts to show each other what we wanted to build 09:38:02 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined company #2 09:38:10 <Stablean> <Shnupz> damn 09:38:17 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Can't buy my own company :P 09:38:23 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I think it is too young 09:38:29 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined company #6 09:39:37 <Stablean> <Shnupz> how old does a company have to be to buy it? 09:39:53 <Stablean> <bon> you can't unless its deep in debt 09:40:03 <Stablean> <Shnupz> shit 09:40:19 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm making too much money :P 09:40:25 <Stablean> <bon> I doubt it 09:40:31 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Nope 09:40:41 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Making quite a lot for trucks only 09:41:04 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined company #2 09:41:13 <Stablean> <Shnupz> look at company league table 09:41:27 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Shnupz transport is 9th 09:42:38 <Stablean> <bon> mmm going have change company name soon but heh :) 09:45:20 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Chris 09:45:24 <Stablean> <bon> mm? 09:45:42 <Stablean> <Shnupz> no no, the Christoph guy 09:45:48 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Playing on Orange 09:49:39 <Stablean> <bon> mm these little garratts were nice but now killing them off for new electrics ^_^ 09:50:25 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined company #6 09:50:33 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> re 09:51:07 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> sup 09:51:19 <Stablean> <ROM5419> no money 09:51:27 <Stablean> <ROM5419> off for the day ( 09:51:34 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (leaving) 09:51:42 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> shnupz? 09:51:56 <Stablean> <Shnupz> was afk sorry 09:52:02 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> you asked for me? 09:52:02 <Stablean> <Shnupz> hmm? 09:52:04 <Stablean> <Shnupz> oh 09:52:10 <Stablean> <Shnupz> doesn't matter now 09:52:22 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I was going to ask you to remove a single piece of road 09:52:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Buut I ended up building a little bridge over it 09:55:18 <Stablean> <bon> heh these articulated coaches are nice to have while they last 09:55:52 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have so much bauxite it's pourin' out me ass 09:56:06 <Stablean> <bon> 99 isn't a lot 09:56:08 <Stablean> <bon> lack of service maybe 09:56:08 <Stablean> <bon> :) 09:56:26 <Stablean> <Shnupz> :P 09:56:28 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah 500 would be a lot for a single station 09:56:38 <Stablean> <Shnupz> but for trucks 09:56:44 <Stablean> <Shnupz> at 1956 09:56:47 <Stablean> <Shnupz> *65 09:56:49 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> nah its not that much 09:56:52 <Stablean> <Shnupz> shhhhhhh 09:57:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I can dream 09:57:11 <Stablean> <bon> agreed chris 09:57:21 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> you can have the hereford articulated with 60 tons of goods... 09:57:27 <Stablean> <Shnupz> hmmm 09:57:31 <Stablean> <Shnupz> but lower speed 09:57:35 <Stablean> <Shnupz> is it worth? 09:58:05 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> who cares about speed with trucks? 09:58:11 <Stablean> <Shnupz> good point 09:58:45 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i played a lot of maps with trucks. 09:59:00 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> and this 60 tons are awsome 09:59:01 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Flatbed or hopper? 09:59:12 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Same everything except reliability 09:59:17 <Stablean> <Shnupz> does it matter? 09:59:32 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> for bauxit? 09:59:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah 09:59:40 <Stablean> <bon> heh seem like I've pretty much reduced my train list by three 09:59:43 <Stablean> <bon> got to love progress 09:59:57 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i like the hopper 10:00:07 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well then, hopper it is 10:00:31 <Stablean> <bon> now for that one last section of steam leftovers 10:01:29 <Stablean> <Shnupz> why are my trucks not auto replacing...? 10:01:39 <Stablean> <Shnupz> shouldn't they head off to the depot? 10:01:45 <Stablean> <Shnupz> and do it themselves? 10:02:00 <Stablean> <bon> do you have autoreplace running now? 10:02:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah 10:02:24 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I've selected "Start replacing Vehicles" 10:02:34 <Stablean> <bon> well one truck is already looking for a shed 10:02:36 <Stablean> <bon> so I dunno 10:02:38 <Stablean> <bon> :) 10:02:49 <Stablean> <Shnupz> nothing is happening... 10:03:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> aww crap 10:03:10 <Stablean> <Shnupz> says there's a money limit on autorenew...? 10:03:20 <Stablean> <Shnupz> does that mean I have too little or too much? 10:03:22 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah 10:03:25 <Stablean> <bon> no clue...your own settings 10:03:27 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> too little 10:03:30 <Stablean> <bon> mine is pretty much at 0 10:03:36 <Stablean> <bon> (its a clientside thing..not server fyi) 10:03:47 <Stablean> <Shnupz> thanks 10:03:53 <Stablean> <Shnupz> now it is working :) 10:04:33 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Are ships useful on this server? 10:04:35 <Stablean> <bon> meh going scrap this quarry route..its in the way of a different long distance route I want 10:04:50 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> no shnupz look @refit goods... 10:04:53 <Stablean> <bon> shnupz...not as that much because the water body is for a purpose..to separate players more or less 10:05:11 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well, do they at least make a profit? 10:05:21 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> you cant refit the ships to the goods you will transport 10:05:27 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Unlike *coughsingleplayercough* 10:05:33 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> shipz always do profit! 10:05:43 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I know you can't refit them 10:05:45 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> every two years once ... 10:05:48 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I want them for passengers 10:07:40 <Stablean> *** Mufama has left the game (leaving) 10:09:24 <Stablean> <bon> heh earned close to 16 thousands from that salvage :-> 10:09:42 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (general timeout) 10:09:42 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (connection lost) 10:11:56 <Stablean> *** CGW has left the game (general timeout) 10:11:56 <Stablean> *** CGW has left the game (connection lost) 10:12:06 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> woots going on? 10:13:08 <Stablean> <bon> there...finally have new company name now that steam's gone :) 10:14:20 <Stablean> *** Shnupz joined the game 10:14:24 <Stablean> <Shnupz> hello again 10:15:39 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> wb 10:16:09 <Stablean> <bon> meh why is someone using several passenger locomotives for heavy freight -_- 10:16:23 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> couse they are fast? xD..... 10:16:41 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Cause they look badass and somebody has no idea what they are doing 10:18:15 <Stablean> <bon> also he's umm...well lets just say I don't think you're supposed to do a water block line like that 10:18:23 <Stablean> <Shnupz> ? 10:18:26 <Stablean> <Shnupz> tell me where 10:18:40 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i saw that too 10:18:42 <Stablean> <bon> theres two but I'll sign one... 10:18:56 <Stablean> <bon> '!here' marks it 10:19:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> 0_o 10:19:16 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Id that raised land? 10:19:28 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Or a badass bridge? 10:19:45 <Stablean> <bon> seem like a blockage to me aside to jumping islands when he could have just stayed on one 10:19:47 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i asked me the same 10:20:10 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (general timeout) 10:20:10 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (connection lost) 10:20:14 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> do you MUST stay on one island? 10:20:32 <Stablean> <bon> chris...not that explictly but seriously..jumping three islands when coal+steemill can be found on one island already..you know? 10:21:10 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i would be happy if i had some ressources i need on my island... OR the next....... 10:22:29 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah awsome train 10:22:35 <Stablean> <bon> well if you hadn't picked an island that was already well-used by other players that might had been less of a problem but ehh 10:22:51 <Benny> !rules 10:22:51 <Stablean> Benny: Rules are at http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart/Stable 10:23:13 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> thats not the point... i need to boost my textill mill ... but ther is NOTHING near me... 10:24:40 <Stablean> <bon> you need to get farm supplies going then you'll be complaining you have too much goods to try move ;) 10:24:43 <Stablean> <bon> thats why 10:25:05 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i am already got all farm goods that i produce to my farms. 10:25:59 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> there are only two possible farm good productions and i already use that... 10:26:30 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i can just boost two farms with that....... 10:26:40 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> couse there are no chemicals near me.... 10:27:40 <Stablean> *** Campi joined the game 10:28:07 <Stablean> <bon> well i still see a lot of raw wool taps on that island but mm 10:28:21 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> am i blind?! 10:28:47 <Stablean> *** Campi has started a new company (#14) 10:30:43 <Stablean> <bon> hi campi 10:30:51 <Stablean> *** Shnupz joined the game 10:30:59 <Stablean> <Shnupz> goddamn Aussie internet 10:31:01 <Stablean> <bon> heh 10:31:04 <Stablean> <Campi> hi all 10:31:12 <Stablean> <Shnupz> herro 10:31:22 <Stablean> <Shnupz> campi 10:31:32 <Stablean> <Shnupz> might as well join me, I am making money 10:31:38 <Stablean> <Campi> ' 10:31:48 <Stablean> <Shnupz> And I'll be gone in a little while 10:31:58 <Stablean> <Shnupz> you can do what you want with the company then 10:32:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> heck, do wehat you want now 10:34:52 <Stablean> <bon> hmmm can one of you help me with removing a single road tile? 10:35:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah 10:35:14 <Stablean> <bon> see sign :) 10:35:36 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm guessing the town hates you 10:35:36 <Stablean> <bon> thanks :P 10:35:39 <Stablean> <Shnupz> np 10:35:41 <Stablean> <bon> ya 10:35:44 <Stablean> <bon> no pax service to it anyway 10:35:48 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Planting trees makes towns love you 10:35:59 <Stablean> <bon> except theres already trees ;) 10:36:05 <Stablean> <Shnupz> delete some if there are some 10:36:09 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah thats the problem on this map 10:36:20 <Stablean> <Shnupz> the town won't care if you delete trees 10:36:22 <Stablean> <bon> chris...well its not a problem unless you're tight on space 10:36:25 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> that works shnupz? 10:36:31 <Stablean> <Shnupz> but will worship you if you plant them :) 10:36:33 <Stablean> <bon> shnup..they do..why do they hate you in first place duh? 10:36:43 <Stablean> <bon> removing trees actually makes it more worser 10:36:45 <Stablean> <bon> heheh 10:36:51 <Stablean> <Shnupz> They hate you for levelling land 10:36:54 <Stablean> <bon> not really 10:37:00 <Stablean> <Shnupz> yup 10:37:02 <Stablean> <bon> removing a tree still drops the rating even if its empty tile 10:37:10 <Stablean> <Shnupz> destroying road and buildings + editing land 10:37:17 <Stablean> <Shnupz> is the worst 10:37:32 <Stablean> <bon> nah..I've done several road removals without much rating drop 10:37:38 <Stablean> <bon> its the tree/house that does it 10:37:49 <Stablean> <bon> (especially stadiums or office towers too) 10:37:52 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Maybe I'm playing with the wrong GRF's :D 10:37:58 <Stablean> <bon> theres no grf 10:38:04 <Stablean> <Shnupz> not here 10:38:07 <Stablean> <Shnupz> on single player 10:38:13 <Stablean> <bon> its the base thing 10:38:21 <Stablean> <bon> if a grf is causing rating change then its some weird hack 10:38:39 <Stablean> <bon> but like I said... its tree and house removals that does cause rating drop simple as it 10:38:43 <Stablean> <bon> ;) 10:38:57 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> AND therraforming... 10:39:11 <Stablean> <bon> well terraform removes the tree so what did you expect? 10:39:21 <Stablean> <bon> if you terraform on grassy land the town actually doesn't care 10:39:27 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> its just about the fucking trees? 10:39:31 <Stablean> <bon> aye 10:39:37 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> lol 10:39:47 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ugh 10:39:53 <Stablean> <bon> anyway..need lay more tracks already 10:39:55 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I need to start up some trains 10:39:57 <Stablean> <Shnupz> but there is no room 10:40:49 <Stablean> <bon> shnupz...go to eg Flanfield 10:40:55 <Stablean> <bon> noone has even touched that island yet 10:41:13 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm working on building up Fundignton 10:41:16 <Stablean> <bon> ok 10:41:23 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Challenging myself to stick to one little town 10:41:30 <Stablean> <bon> :p 10:41:34 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined company #2 10:42:02 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has joined company #6 10:44:14 <Stablean> <Shnupz> First train to Fundington :P 10:48:29 <Stablean> <Shnupz> look at that sexy rail line 10:48:39 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> snupz can you pls dont block@aluminium factory? 10:48:49 <Stablean> <Shnupz> fine fine 10:48:55 <Stablean> <Shnupz> but Joe will be pissed :P 10:49:09 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> just want to build a road... 10:49:31 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 10:49:39 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> thx 10:49:47 <Stablean> <V453000> hell 10:49:50 <Stablean> <Shnupz> dunno why I didn't think of that 10:49:56 <Stablean> <Shnupz> hell...o? 10:49:59 <Stablean> <bon> hi v453000 .. just scrapped two short routes and merging long routes now finally 10:50:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> or just plain hell? 10:50:08 <Stablean> <bon> also went all-electric a few years ago too :) 10:50:14 <Stablean> <V453000> both Shnupz 10:50:30 <Stablean> <Shnupz> :( whats wrong? 10:50:36 <Stablean> <V453000> nothing (: 10:50:43 <Stablean> <Shnupz> yay :) 10:50:50 <Stablean> <V453000> look, my first word when I come is generally nonsense 10:50:54 <Stablean> <V453000> you will get used to that :D 10:50:56 <Stablean> <bon> heh :P 10:52:48 <Stablean> <Shnupz> frickin ships getting lost 10:53:18 <Stablean> <Shnupz> V453K 10:53:24 <Stablean> <V453000> wat 10:53:27 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I told you fundington will be a town of dreams 10:53:33 <Stablean> <V453000> also quit shortening my name, ty 10:53:35 <Stablean> <Shnupz> look at my baby grow 10:53:43 <Stablean> <V453000> pressing tab will autocomplete it 10:53:58 <Stablean> <Shnupz> V453000: :O AMZING 10:54:02 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 10:54:06 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Gotta use tab more often 10:54:16 <Stablean> <bon> <only uses tab for window switching 10:54:18 <Stablean> <bon> ^_^ 10:54:37 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Windows key + tab > alt + tab 10:55:08 <Stablean> <Shnupz> you all just tried windows key + tab... right? 10:55:27 <Benny> no, i dont use aero ;) 10:55:35 <Stablean> <bon> <doesn't even have windows anyway 10:55:41 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I don't either :D 10:55:55 <Stablean> <Shnupz> About aero, not windows 10:56:01 <Stablean> <bon> :) 10:56:07 <Stablean> <Shnupz> once linux gets good driver support, I 10:56:21 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'll switch over to the good side :) 10:56:25 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i have a station and two factories near that station can i say too which factory the cargo should go?! 10:56:28 <Stablean> <bon> shnupz..its only winmodem cards or certain new video chips that doesn't have much support 10:56:34 <Stablean> <bon> but everything else pretty much works for most part 10:56:38 <Stablean> <bon> chris...mind sign it? 10:56:50 <Stablean> <V453000> after adobe things work well on linux, I will still not switch to penguins :P 10:56:52 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> "sign" 10:57:04 <Stablean> <Shnupz> eh, once steambox comes out there'll be full support anyway 10:57:14 <Stablean> <bon> chris...oh you want drop chemicals off right? 10:57:16 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'll switch then 10:57:18 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah 10:57:29 <Benny> linux is too much of a hassle 10:57:31 <Stablean> <bon> chris...well errr....move platform over ... thats the only thing I know what to say sorry 10:57:49 <Stablean> <Benny> oh lol im still ingame 10:57:51 <Stablean> <bon> benny...I'm not paying $$$ just to run an os that could be had elsewhere for only $ so.... mm yeah to our own picks 10:57:53 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Benny, depends on what OS you want 10:57:53 <Stablean> *** Benny has left the game (leaving) 10:58:01 <Benny> me neither ;) 10:58:06 <Benny> i pirate windows and i dont feel bad about it 10:58:09 <Stablean> <bon> and beside I don't care for new rpg/whatever games that many windows users gets 10:58:15 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Stuff like Ubuntu is easy to install/get 10:58:17 <Stablean> <bon> so that means windows has nothing over nix 10:58:25 <Stablean> <Shnupz> But apparently isn't as awesome as the more techy stuff 10:58:28 <Benny> linux has always been a hassle to use 10:58:37 <Stablean> <bon> shnupz... ubuntu is kinda the bloated one tbh 10:58:40 <Benny> driver issues, software not avaiable on it, this doesnt work etc 10:58:47 <Stablean> <bon> I never understand why so many people want to go after it first 10:58:57 <Stablean> <bon> benny...use a decent cd and you'll see most things working 10:59:03 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Bon, honestly, which linux OS is best for gaming and general purpose? 10:59:08 <Benny> debian 10:59:11 <Stablean> <bon> shnupz...one thats lean 10:59:25 <Stablean> <Shnupz> ummmm... examples? 10:59:35 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I wanna write this down for later :P 10:59:37 <Stablean> <bon> and doesn't have ad-related or try-replace-something-major problems .. as buntu seem to often fall for both 11:00:03 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I was never going to get ubuntu in the first place 0_o 11:00:09 <Stablean> <bon> but anyway chris..I have no idea how the "pick between two industries" thing work..you may have to find andy to ask him about that 11:00:15 <Stablean> <Shnupz> I was just saying that it's easy to install 11:01:54 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i had to Bribe prenhattan two times now.......... 11:02:11 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> lost over 2,5millions... 11:02:33 <Stablean> <bon> eh? I don't see 2.5m in your finances unless its from <1967? :) 11:03:01 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah 1967 once and 1969 .... 11:03:25 <Stablean> <bon> well 1969 only shows 600 thousands but mm yeah thats why you have to watch trees when building non-pax stations near town zones 11:03:51 <Stablean> <bon> which of I wonder where planetmaker could be 11:04:02 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> ah yeah i play with EUR 11:04:13 <Stablean> <bon> oh mm ok 11:04:23 <Stablean> <bon> whats the gbp-eur rate hmm... 11:04:33 <Stablean> <Shnupz> Chris, please look at my new signs 11:04:33 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> not 1:2 11:04:43 <Stablean> <bon> meh eur is disabled as its too early yet 11:04:46 <Stablean> <bon> oh well 11:05:08 <Stablean> <bon> chris btw tell me.. what number do you see for 'Other' expenses in 1969? 11:05:22 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> 1.326674 11:05:29 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (general timeout) 11:05:29 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (connection lost) 11:05:43 <Stablean> <bon> 1,326,674 ... mmm its showing 663,337 here 11:05:53 <Stablean> <bon> so it indeed does look like 2:1 11:06:24 <Stablean> <bon> so i guess basically we have to halve or double the numbers between each others till euro gets passed as official currency :) 11:06:46 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i bribed them the third time but nothing happens... 11:07:21 <Benny> dont bribe 11:07:29 <Benny> delete all trees in and around a city 11:07:32 <Benny> build trees 11:07:33 <Benny> delete again 11:07:34 <Benny> repeat 11:07:49 <Stablean> <V453000> honestly the currency feature is cute, but one of the most confusing/causing problematic communication features in openttd 11:08:03 <Stablean> <bon> v453000 I don't find it 'cute' .. I find it proper when matching with traingrfs 11:08:09 <Stablean> <bon> but ehh 11:08:21 <Stablean> <V453000> wtf? 11:08:31 <Stablean> <V453000> how is currency relevant to train sets at all 11:08:41 <Stablean> <bon> ukrs = pounds ... dbsetxl = dem .. etc 11:08:48 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> lol... works... thx.... 11:08:58 <Stablean> <bon> chris...heh have fun with the chemicals there anyway 11:09:00 <Stablean> <V453000> that is only sets are retardedly named after countries because authors have no original idea 11:09:06 <Stablean> <bon> I'm about to make a new chemical route anyway 11:09:08 <Stablean> <V453000> what currency does nuts have then 11:09:22 <Stablean> <V453000> or tropic refurbishment set 11:09:28 <Stablean> <V453000> or hover vehicles 11:09:38 <Stablean> <bon> tropic is partial to africa so....there 11:09:38 <Stablean> <V453000> or original trains :) 11:09:42 <Stablean> <bon> original was always uk 11:09:45 <Stablean> <V453000> africa isnt currency 11:09:55 <Stablean> <bon> well look up what africa uses then 11:10:05 <Stablean> <V453000> like X different currencies? 11:10:11 <Stablean> <V453000> stones, sand, slaves 11:10:13 <Stablean> <bon> thats not currency 11:10:16 <Benny> V453000: UKRS and DBset are based on real life vehicles 11:10:18 <Benny> NUTS definitely isnt 11:10:27 <Stablean> <V453000> which is exactly why they are retarded Benny 11:10:41 <Benny> people play this game for realism too, important thing to note 11:10:46 <Benny> i used to do that 11:10:49 <Stablean> <V453000> retarded people, yes 11:10:51 <Stablean> <bon> benny agreed 11:11:01 <Benny> V453000: did you wake up on the angry foot today? :P 11:11:03 <Stablean> <bon> thats why I love being able to have short trains finally thanks to FIRS again :) 11:11:21 <Stablean> <V453000> that people go and murder each other happens too 11:11:23 <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt mean it is good 11:11:45 <Stablean> <V453000> no thats my general attitude towards realistic idiocy Benny 11:11:51 <Stablean> <V453000> both feet :) 11:12:01 <Benny> lol 11:12:03 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> new chemicals? 11:12:21 <Stablean> <bon> not new chemical... new chemical *route* 11:12:21 <Stablean> <bon> :) 11:12:37 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> where? 11:12:44 <Stablean> <bon> from my only refinery ofc 11:12:58 <Stablean> <V453000> you just cant play the game "realistically" ... all I get it is is making limits for yourself for no reasons 11:12:59 *** skyem123 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:13:04 <Stablean> <bon> its not limits 11:13:38 <Stablean> <V453000> well then why dont you build more smaller trains without firs :) 11:13:56 <Stablean> <bon> if you can make a grf (or patch ottd) to stop borked productions...then sure 11:14:15 <Stablean> <V453000> define borked productions 11:14:33 <Stablean> <V453000> default certainly isnt borked, and is best by far 11:15:00 <Benny> V453000: maybe you think of these limits as limits, but others clearly dont ;) 11:15:02 <Stablean> <bon> is there any need to? expecting a 86 tonnes train with stupid-american-like-production rate isn't really reasonable 11:15:21 <Stablean> <V453000> why not? 11:15:31 <Stablean> <V453000> you just build more trains? 11:15:33 <Stablean> <bon> nope 11:15:39 <Stablean> <V453000> the whole point is that you cant "win" the game 11:15:49 <Stablean> <V453000> you always have motivation to build more, add things, make your network better 11:15:51 <Stablean> <bon> who said anything about winning? 11:16:10 <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game 11:16:22 <Stablean> <V453000> more about motivation to play 11:16:32 <Stablean> <bon> I'm already having too much fun here 11:16:38 <Stablean> <bon> so I dunno what you're trying to imply 11:16:50 <Stablean> <bon> hi skyem finally :) 11:17:25 <Stablean> <V453000> well, capping industry production at low values doesnt quite give much fun into the later stages of the game, you are quickly "done" as your traffic throughput is sufficient, or you have to connect more primaries which is boring and tedious 11:17:34 <Stablean> <bon> thats not really true 11:17:40 <Stablean> <V453000> isnt it 11:17:42 <Stablean> <V453000> which part of it isnt 11:17:54 <Stablean> <bon> if you think so then you're not even fully utilizing it at all 11:18:20 <Stablean> <V453000> is using primaries to 100% full utilization? 11:18:38 <Stablean> <bon> if its at quad production and you have more than one of that...maybe 11:18:50 <skyem123> HOLY! 16 tile long train! 11:19:08 <Stablean> <bon> skyem....but crap...plus not to mention the dumb water-blocking lines too 11:19:08 <Stablean> *** Shnupz joined the game 11:19:10 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont know what are you talking about 11:19:10 <Stablean> <bon> ;) 11:19:20 <Stablean> <Shnupz> got so caught up in single player I forgot to re join 11:19:50 <Stablean> <Shnupz> FUNDINGTON HAS GROWN 11:20:05 <Stablean> <Shnupz> LORD GOOMY HAS BLESSED US! :D 11:20:08 <skyem123> do people want to lynch me? 11:20:14 <Stablean> <bon> skyem heh no :) 11:20:14 <Stablean> <V453000> point is if industries stop growing, you have no reason to grow your network all the time 11:20:16 <Stablean> <bon> was wondering where you were :) 11:20:19 <Stablean> <Shnupz> oh hi Skyem 11:20:31 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (general timeout) 11:20:31 <Stablean> *** Shnupz has left the game (connection lost) 11:20:35 <Stablean> <bon> v453000 if you've already made them run at quad production and you have more than one of it then....maybe you do have a point 11:20:53 <Stablean> <V453000> what? 11:20:59 <Stablean> <V453000> how is that related at all 11:21:13 <Stablean> <V453000> im not talking about total amount but about differences and growth 11:21:16 <Stablean> <bon> because if its not at quad production then its not utilized as much as it could be 11:21:34 <Stablean> <V453000> so "utilizing grf mechanism" is defined by number of cargo you transport? 11:21:38 <Stablean> <V453000> that makes zero sense 11:23:00 <Stablean> <V453000> that is about the same as if you said "the more cargo wagons can carry, the better the train set" 11:23:18 <Stablean> <bon> only if you're liking silly high productions 11:23:24 <Stablean> <V453000> irrelevant 11:23:34 <Stablean> <V453000> entirely 11:23:48 <Stablean> <bon> nope its related..I'm happy with the 10 ton mineral cars only since the industry matches that anyway 11:23:51 <Stablean> <V453000> that is one value, not mechanism 11:24:14 <Stablean> <V453000> so you think that adding trains is bad 11:24:25 <Stablean> <V453000> soo why play the game in the first place 11:24:39 <Stablean> <V453000> more production, more trains, more building 11:24:39 <Stablean> <bon> because ukrs never ran massive 50-cars trains daily unlike usa/etc 11:24:49 <Stablean> <V453000> who cares? 11:25:11 <Stablean> <V453000> this is a game 11:25:21 <Stablean> <bon> and its a train grf game 11:25:31 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> dont say that V453000 i am losing my illusions! 11:25:33 <Stablean> <V453000> it is a logical game unrelated to real trains, yes 11:25:43 <Stablean> <bon> umm you got that backward 11:25:45 <Benny> i think its important to note here that V453000 is the mastermind behind a 5000 train network on a 512x512 map, and that bon seems to be interested in real life trains and rail networks 11:25:49 <Stablean> <bon> it was always a transport game from the start 11:25:59 <Stablean> <V453000> nope 11:26:09 <Stablean> <V453000> transport game doesnt mean it is related to simulation 11:26:11 <Stablean> <bon> no then what does the 'TT' stand for? 11:26:17 <Stablean> <V453000> name? 11:26:23 <Stablean> <bon> Transport Tycoon 11:26:39 <Stablean> <V453000> is a singer SmartNigger9000 automatically smart? 11:26:49 <Stablean> <V453000> same logic 11:26:59 <Stablean> <V453000> yes, you transport things in the game. Good catch 11:27:07 <skyem123> in 1980 i will see if there is a class 315 11:27:14 <skyem123> (i hope there is) 11:27:21 <Stablean> <V453000> but TT/TTD/OpenTTD are logic games which allow extreme amount of research on building train networks 11:27:35 <Stablean> <V453000> which is what makes it so much fun, and mainly so much fun for the long term 11:27:49 <Stablean> <V453000> as opposed to other train simulator games 11:27:55 <Stablean> <bon> skyem... 315? did you meant 313 or something else? 11:28:05 <Stablean> <bon> v453000 you're clearly not understanding genres so never mind we talked at all 11:28:14 <Benny> you're both wrong 11:28:19 <Benny> its up to yourself how you want to play the game 11:28:26 <Benny> one cannot dictate how others are supposed to enjoy it 11:28:47 <Stablean> <V453000> sure I am just saying playing it "realistically" is only setting stupid limits like "ukrs used long trains so yeah" which do not make any sense at all 11:28:57 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i can dictate, i am from germany! 11:28:57 <Stablean> <V453000> I can probably not prevent people from playing dumb 11:28:59 <Stablean> <bon> its not a limit 11:29:02 <Stablean> <V453000> it is a limit 11:29:05 <Stablean> <bon> its not 11:29:11 <Stablean> <V453000> it is a rule = it is a limit 11:29:13 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i am the great dictator! 11:29:15 <Stablean> <V453000> your choices are not free 11:29:25 <Stablean> <bon> then why do I have no limit? my trains aren't being starved or anything 11:29:27 <Stablean> <V453000> using logical thinking you could use 1-64 tile trains 11:29:29 <Stablean> <bon> so its not even a limit 11:29:56 <Stablean> <V453000> after considering key aspects of openttd gameplay you would probably to go for 3-5 tile trains 11:30:06 <Stablean> <V453000> irrelevant which country used what 11:30:20 <Stablean> <V453000> but no, realistic nonsense Orders X 11:30:23 <Stablean> <V453000> obey, good job 11:30:25 <Stablean> <bon> actually no..if this was running canset or nars instead I would had built 8-tile platforms by default 11:30:28 <Stablean> <bon> ;) 11:30:35 <Stablean> <V453000> see, same thing 11:30:38 <Stablean> <V453000> zero logic 11:30:44 <Stablean> <bon> nope..its logical 11:30:50 <Stablean> <V453000> logical with what 11:31:00 <Stablean> <bon> since the heavy haul diesels can take that much cargo worth 200+ tonnes in an easy trip 11:31:06 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> my ass is logical! 11:31:17 <Stablean> <bon> heh chris....now don't bother quoting anything from Spaceballs pls :) 11:31:44 <Stablean> <bon> skyem... wiki shows a BREL Class 313 due in 1976 otheriwse I can't see a 315 anywhere 11:32:36 <skyem123> aww 11:32:43 <Stablean> <bon> mm? 11:32:53 <Stablean> <V453000> of course but that doesnt justify 8 11:33:03 <Stablean> <bon> well it does 11:33:08 <skyem123> irl 315 comes out in 1980/1981 11:33:23 <Stablean> <V453000> can as well be 16 11:33:24 <Benny> depends on what acceleration one finds sufficient 11:33:27 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...heh ukrs2 doesn't have "everything" as that would had been too many similar things 11:33:29 <Stablean> <V453000> with everything double 11:33:37 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> ah all this trains are real? 11:33:39 <Stablean> <V453000> plus that Benny 11:33:47 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> they all looks ugly... 11:33:53 <Stablean> <V453000> XD 11:33:55 <Stablean> <bon> benny....with two 3800hp diesel-electric locomotives its too easy to accelerate even a 400 tonnes train up to 90kph in a few tiles 11:34:02 <Stablean> <V453000> SO bon? 11:34:08 <Stablean> <V453000> how does that say "build 8 tile trains" 11:34:11 <Stablean> <V453000> or whatever length 11:34:15 <Stablean> <bon> chris...yeah ukrs2 is uk after all eh? 11:34:21 <Stablean> <V453000> you can as well double everything and make them twice as long? 11:34:56 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...at least thanks for adding the ukrs2-addon to here because there are a few particular locomotives I really like 11:35:06 <Stablean> <bon> not to mention all the EM1 electrics I'm running now 11:35:31 <skyem123> your welcome! :-) 11:35:46 <Stablean> <V453000> but dont add those tracks again, the signals are beyond awful 11:36:56 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...I just have to wait till 1993 to get something worthy replacing the EM1 with :P 11:37:06 <Stablean> <bon> Class 92 aka fast freights under overhead wire 11:37:08 <Stablean> <bon> :) 11:37:30 <skyem123> wow 11:37:32 <Stablean> <V453000> because according to realistic rules a train set can have better structure so you wouldnt have to wait :P 11:37:34 <Stablean> <V453000> win win 11:38:13 <Stablean> <bon> skyem..mind you the 92 was really meant as an express container locomotive in real-life but for the sake of ottd its been simplified to just haul anything instead 11:38:55 <Stablean> <V453000> how terrible :) 11:39:00 <skyem123> technically you could pull anything with any engine irl. (with a bit of thinking) 11:39:07 <Stablean> <V453000> XD 11:39:07 <Stablean> <V453000> haha 11:39:29 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> downhill?! 11:39:32 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...well the point was a locomotive that only took container cars alone would kinda be a bit hard to implent... 11:39:50 <Stablean> <V453000> not really 11:39:53 <Stablean> <bon> so the locomotive can take anything including mgr hopper cars ingame anyway 11:40:03 <Stablean> <V453000> it would be trivial to implement 11:40:41 <Stablean> <bon> skyem mind you the 92 can also run on 3rd rail with slight reduced performance too .. its one of the few dual-voltage locomotives aye 11:40:42 <skyem123> try and attach anything other than a tube carriage to a London underground train 11:40:53 <Stablean> <bon> (probably best in a ISR2 game where shared tracks are a requism) 11:41:28 <Stablean> <V453000> isr2? 11:41:55 <Stablean> <bon> infrastructure sharing ... it kinda makes certain grf things make more sense 11:42:35 <skyem123> i wish i could compile openttd (My pc CANNOT compile ANYTHING) 11:42:46 <skyem123> (I broke my pc...) 11:42:53 <Stablean> <V453000> sure, the feature which is solved just by playing in 1 company 11:42:56 <Stablean> <V453000> also excellent effort 11:42:59 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...ah :-s 11:43:12 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe joined the game 11:43:24 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> wb 11:43:41 <Benny> v453000: separate economy, shared tracks is the goal with that patch i think 11:43:48 <Stablean> <bon> skyem well you know how it is eg when one company has some rails with little traffic and other company could use adding a new route that partially shares some tracks...now guess what a problem could be if one was 3rd rail and other was overhead? so thats where dual-voltage trains actually make sense 11:43:54 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> thanks 11:44:00 <Stablean> <V453000> of course but how is that an advantage Benny 11:44:07 <Benny> V453000: it isnt 11:44:14 <skyem123> AND dual voltage track 11:44:18 <Stablean> <V453000> company X can jam your network just because you gave access? but you cant do a thing abuot it 11:44:20 <Stablean> <V453000> excellent XD 11:44:34 <Benny> lol 11:44:44 <skyem123> it is meant for games like this 11:44:46 <Stablean> <V453000> thats the whole difference really 11:44:54 <Stablean> <V453000> play in 1 company if you mean to cooperate? 11:45:10 <Stablean> <V453000> has only advantages 11:45:24 <Stablean> <V453000> you need to trust the other person anyway 11:45:29 <skyem123> where companies don't hate each other BUT there is some competition 11:45:30 <Stablean> <V453000> so why limit things 11:45:46 <Benny> well you're a total min-maxer V453000 so you wouldn't understand :P 11:45:48 <Stablean> <V453000> there cant be competition if I can jam your tracks at any point 11:46:19 <Stablean> <V453000> I didnt yet hear an argument why is sharing infrastructure better tha nplayign in 1 company 11:46:41 <Stablean> <V453000> so yeah I wouldnt understand in such case 11:46:47 <skyem123> ... 11:46:47 <Benny> its not about better tbh. never liked the idea of the patch personally but i can see why people would find it interesting to share tracks amongst eachother 11:46:57 * skyem123 is going mad 11:47:29 <Stablean> <V453000> I played with it too, twice 11:47:31 <Stablean> <bon> benny...yeah I've loved it 11:47:39 <Stablean> <V453000> but you share tracks when you are in your company 11:47:41 <Stablean> <V453000> or dont you :) 11:47:49 <Stablean> <bon> but since I can't find much people to play together with...well....I'm still waiting :-s 11:47:55 <Stablean> <V453000> including that if one of you is gone, it doesnt mean the jam on his side is untouchable 11:48:17 <Stablean> <V453000> after all you can make an agreement not to touch the rails the other person built 11:48:21 <Stablean> <V453000> easy to identify with e.g. purr 11:48:24 <Stablean> <bon> I actually made a game once where one company only did tracks alone and other company was the one running all trains .. that was a bit of a fun day 11:48:36 <Stablean> <V453000> also cutely pointless 11:48:42 <Stablean> <bon> not pointless 11:48:46 <Benny> bon: thats how the rail system in norway is ran! 11:48:52 <Benny> probably elsewhere too 11:49:09 <Stablean> <bon> benny...yeah the EU rules mandatory that rail and trains are separated as soon as possible 11:49:12 <Stablean> <bon> something to that line anyway 11:49:20 <Benny> oh 11:49:23 <Stablean> <bon> some countries still are not complying so well like eg france 11:49:29 <Stablean> <V453000> LOL 11:49:33 <Stablean> <bon> SNCF still basically owns the tracks 11:49:35 <Stablean> <V453000> yeah great arguments 11:49:35 <Stablean> <V453000> well done 11:49:41 <Benny> arguments? 11:50:01 * skyem123 bonks V453000 on the head 11:50:07 <Stablean> <V453000> "infrastructure sharing is better than playing in 1 company because..." 11:50:09 <Stablean> <bon> heh skyem :) 11:50:15 <Stablean> <bon> skyem don't we all want to do that! 11:50:17 <Stablean> <V453000> ... because EU does that? 11:50:19 <Stablean> <V453000> fun 11:50:26 <Benny> those were not arguments V453000 11:50:30 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#15) 11:50:34 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 11:50:38 <Stablean> <V453000> well there were no other arguments yet if I am aware 11:50:47 <Benny> well as i said you wont understand it 11:50:58 <Benny> because you're a total min-maxer and #coop maniac :P 11:51:09 <Stablean> <V453000> no because I am waiting for 1 argument 11:51:16 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #15 11:51:23 <Benny> bon: do you know how to most efficiently build a SRNW? 11:51:26 <Benny> or what a MSH is 11:51:30 <Stablean> <V453000> which my opposition seems to be unabel to construct 11:52:00 <Stablean> <bon> benny tbh I've sometimes looked at these junctions etc ... but a lot of it is somewhat a bit of foreign gameplay concept to me tho 11:52:04 <Benny> see 11:52:06 <Stablean> <bon> if you understand what I'm really saying 11:52:09 <Benny> yes 11:52:13 <Benny> i understand completely 11:52:17 <Stablean> <bon> ty 11:52:18 <Benny> V453000 doesnt 11:52:29 <Stablean> <V453000> I do, simply because you didnt build it before yet 11:52:31 <Stablean> <bon> I do sometimes learn from other players tho 11:52:31 <Stablean> <V453000> simple 11:52:38 <Stablean> <bon> especially re overflow depots (which I have to yet try) 11:53:22 <Stablean> <V453000> there is nothing foreign, if you have not enough traffic capacity, you have to expand 11:53:24 <Stablean> <V453000> or am I wrong there? 11:54:31 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (leaving) 11:55:00 <Benny> no of course 11:55:18 <skyem123> hmm... 11:55:32 <skyem123> why is the Victoria tube all white? 11:55:42 <Stablean> <V453000> then how can it be foreign if it is a logical conclusion to traffic problems 11:55:42 <Stablean> <bon> skyem....as thats what the real thing were? :) 11:55:52 <skyem123> it isn't 11:56:06 <Stablean> <bon> skyem they didn't always have red paintjob ;) 11:56:07 <skyem123> i have been on the victoria line... 11:56:12 <skyem123> wait what 11:56:14 <skyem123> .... 11:56:31 * skyem123 bonks skyem123 on the head 11:56:32 <Stablean> <bon> skyem..just like how the famously known london doubledeck bus was actually in green by a large fleet too 11:56:49 * skyem123 bonks skyem123 on the head 11:56:56 * skyem123 bonks skyem123 on the head x5 11:56:58 <Stablean> <bon> umm..don't hurt your head :) 11:57:14 * skyem123 rubs skyem123's head 11:57:44 * skyem123 says "Ow" 11:57:52 <planetmaker> <Stablean> <bon> which of I wonder where planetmaker could be <-- at work 11:58:01 * skyem123 is talking in 3rd person 11:58:33 <Stablean> <bon> planetmaker heh..didn't think you would be on irc atm .. but mm yeah your one stagecoaches-loaded train is still running ;) 11:58:50 <planetmaker> I'm about on IRC always. And if not, I have backlog 11:58:55 <V453000> did you assume I am not at work or what :D 11:59:04 <Benny> same ^ 11:59:06 <Stablean> <bon> skyem btw there are some all-red tube trains too (no whites) .. etc 11:59:10 <planetmaker> V453000, no, I didn't. But I was 'asked' 11:59:16 <Stablean> <bon> so its a mix of red+white/red/white paintjobs 11:59:20 <V453000> I didnt say that to you either pm :P 11:59:25 <planetmaker> ;-) 12:00:10 <skyem123> i wonder if they have to BRAND new metropolitan line trains 12:00:26 <Stablean> <bon> brb 12:00:57 <skyem123> the only tube train you can walk between the carrages 12:01:31 <planetmaker> V453000, though I must say, in the southern parts of Germany there's public holiday. I clearly live in the wrong part 12:01:41 <V453000> :D 12:02:48 <V453000> btw pm I have over half of new nuts complete :P push things perhaps soon(tm) :D 12:02:50 *** Djanxy has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:04:48 <skyem123> what part is new? 12:05:45 <planetmaker> would be really looking forward to that, V453000 12:05:51 <planetmaker> it's irking me that it doesn't work 12:06:25 <planetmaker> though I really think that it must be something on your end. Noone else has issues 12:06:51 <V453000> I think so too but its total wtf 12:07:00 <planetmaker> agreed 12:07:32 <planetmaker> as said: simply pull a new repo from devzone. and then pull also your current local repo in that new repo 12:07:41 <planetmaker> and try to push then from the new local repo to devzone 12:07:42 <V453000> I think I did that 12:07:44 <planetmaker> that's what I'd try 12:07:47 <planetmaker> but ^ 12:07:58 <V453000> myeah meh, will try later :) 12:08:06 <planetmaker> :) 12:08:07 <V453000> skyem123, about 14 new trains :) and more 12:09:19 <skyem123> coming soon(tm)? hm... 12:10:08 <V453000> yes, precisely then 12:10:11 <Stablean> *** ku3mi41 joined the game 12:11:48 <Stablean> *** Djanxy joined the game 12:12:03 <planetmaker> NUTS is never late, nor is it early, it arrives precisely when it means to ;-) 12:12:27 <V453000> that sounds too wise 12:13:00 <V453000> was thinking of something more like Beer, NUTS iz here, beer, beer, or is it, beer, beer IDONTKNOWHOWDOESITMATTERWEWANTNEWNUTS, beer, beer, beer 12:13:11 <Djanxy> sounds more like a LOTR reference :D 12:13:49 <V453000> why :D 12:14:05 * skyem123 bonks V453000 on the head 12:14:08 <Benny> lol i was totally thinking about gandalf reading it 12:14:15 * V453000 slaps skyem123 around a bit with a large fishbot 12:14:27 <V453000> YOU SHALL NOT ASS 12:14:35 <Benny> ass? :P 12:15:14 * skyem123 does something totally epic! 12:15:31 <V453000> ass. 12:16:20 <Stablean> <bon> back now 12:16:23 <Stablean> <bon> oh hi djanxy :D 12:16:37 <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi 12:16:43 <Stablean> <bon> how doing? 12:16:53 <Stablean> <Djanxy> just having a look, going away for the weekend 12:17:11 <Stablean> <bon> ah ok...what doing on weekend? 12:17:53 <Stablean> <Djanxy> just going to visit my father, nothing special ;) 12:17:59 <Stablean> <bon> mm ... sounds like fun either way 12:18:25 <Stablean> <bon> anyway...time for another major route again.. 12:18:29 <skyem123> i have made a silly rail line 12:18:45 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 12:18:50 <Stablean> *** ku3mi41 has left the game (leaving) 12:20:31 <Stablean> <bon> where skyem? 12:20:56 <skyem123> Town called Sadhead 12:21:27 <Stablean> <bon> ummm....I only can ask...WHY? :P 12:21:29 <Stablean> <bon> haha 12:22:03 <Stablean> <bon> ughh... 12:22:13 <skyem123> science 12:22:21 <Stablean> <bon> :p skyem 12:22:44 <skyem123> Mark may want to kill me 12:22:56 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> WHY NOT!!! 12:23:18 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i build this industry there i needed the space 12:23:34 <Stablean> <bon> why not build it higher up where it would already be level anyway? 12:23:34 <Stablean> <bon> :) 12:23:47 <Stablean> *** Benny joined the game 12:23:50 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i like it then its plaine 12:23:50 <Stablean> <bon> hi again benny? :) 12:24:12 <Stablean> <Benny> lol yes thats pretty bad 12:24:56 <Stablean> <Benny> its like a badly implemented mini-SML :P 12:26:35 <skyem123> what is bad? 12:26:42 <Stablean> <Benny> you could add some more platforms there skyem 12:30:30 <skyem123> did you say my line is a bad mini-shift main line? 12:30:49 <Stablean> <Benny> yes the line atsadhead 12:31:03 <Stablean> <Benny> its a good idea in theory, but the line is unfortunately too short for it to work :/ 12:31:12 <skyem123> all my mainlines turn into that 12:31:21 <skyem123> in single-player 12:32:29 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Puczas 12:32:31 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> Hi i am the Help Robot, woot can i do for you? 12:32:42 <Stablean> <Benny> give me pancakes 12:32:44 <Stablean> <bon> heh..got offered to test HST .. turned it down 12:32:46 <Stablean> <bon> its diesel which I didn't need 12:34:10 <Stablean> *** Benny has left the game (leaving) 12:36:00 <Stablean> <bon> only thing I could want is Class 92 12:36:02 <Stablean> <bon> hehehe 12:48:53 <skyem123> what engine had both overhead and 3rd rail? 12:49:01 <V453000> slugs 12:49:04 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...Class 91 afaik 12:49:10 <Stablean> <bon> theres some EMU with that capacity too 12:49:13 <Stablean> <bon> one sec.. 12:49:47 <Stablean> <bon> 1976 gives you the Class 313 which runs on both 12:50:09 <Stablean> <bon> or ABB Class 325 in 1995 but its only meant for mail or other express freights 12:51:03 <Stablean> <bon> and btw the 313 is already in buy list now 12:51:26 <Stablean> <bon> oh nice.. Freightliner cars too...just in time for a new route I finished 12:51:44 <skyem123> what is it called? 12:51:52 <Stablean> <bon> its a wagon 12:51:58 <Stablean> <bon> look a bit further down in buy list 12:52:04 <Stablean> <bon> I should warn you its an articulated set 12:52:20 <skyem123> i meant the class 12:52:22 <Stablean> <bon> train 23 of mine has it now if you want see 12:52:28 <Stablean> <bon> oh 12:52:38 <Stablean> <bon> that is actually its class.. 313 aka BREL Class 313 12:52:50 <skyem123> uhhh... 12:53:02 <skyem123> i meant the dual power engine 12:53:08 <Stablean> <bon> oh..sorry 12:53:19 <Stablean> <bon> Brush Class 92 12:54:22 <skyem123> oh... 12:54:27 <skyem123> the 313 appeared 12:54:30 <Stablean> <bon> oh sorry haha..I forgot I was offere to test it 12:54:32 <Stablean> <bon> geeze 12:54:55 <Stablean> <bon> they should include some kind of colored dot or something in the buy list to imply a testing locomotie 12:55:07 <Stablean> <bon> I thought it was already out because it was in *my* buy list 12:55:07 <skyem123> yes... 12:55:14 <skyem123> that would be handy 13:03:03 <skyem123> where do you find info on where the trains come out? 13:03:19 <Stablean> <bon> skyem pikka's wiki for ukrs2 13:03:46 <Stablean> <bon> or in this case its at users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php/UK_Railway_Set 13:03:56 <Stablean> <bon> scroll down to see the complete table index near footer 13:04:59 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk joined the game 13:05:02 <Stablean> <bon> hi liuk :) 13:05:04 <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi 13:05:18 <skyem123> Class 9E... 13:05:49 <Stablean> <bon> 9E? 13:06:43 <skyem123> i'm testing it 13:06:59 <Stablean> <bon> whats a 9E? 13:07:33 <skyem123> Class 9E 13:07:47 <Stablean> <bon> well its probably not ukrs then as there is no 9E in the list anywhere 13:07:55 <Stablean> <bon> you talking about the tropic locomotive? 13:08:04 <skyem123> oh... 13:08:06 <skyem123> yes... 13:08:17 <Stablean> <bon> heh...not sure why theres two traingrfs but ehh :) 13:08:27 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk has left the game (leaving) 13:08:28 <skyem123> TRS: late game 13:09:39 <Stablean> <bon> ok it took a few round-n-round chasing but looks like I got the two supplies running smoothly now 13:10:05 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> which supplies? 13:10:11 <Stablean> <bon> farm and engineering at pretty much the same time 13:10:19 <Stablean> <bon> had to add some extra trains for the output from there too 13:10:25 <Stablean> <bon> now just need to make a milk route 13:10:27 <V453000> its because UKRS2 is too bad to be alone (: needs good trains for modern era 13:10:27 <Stablean> <bon> :) 13:10:42 <Stablean> <bon> theres actually several modern locos there 13:11:02 <skyem123> i think we should have maps like this (very hard) every now and then. 13:11:04 <V453000> doesnt mean they are very useful 13:11:09 <V453000> no we wont skyem123 13:11:11 <V453000> if you mean costs 13:11:26 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...I actually like it...I'm still awash in too much cash yet 13:11:28 <Stablean> <bon> but eh 13:11:38 <Benny> i dislike this hard difficulty stuff 13:11:46 <Benny> cause this is a coop server 13:11:53 <skyem123> some people like it... some people hate it... 13:12:00 <V453000> too bad 13:12:02 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> nah everything other is too easy and you have too much money that you cant spend 13:12:04 <Stablean> <bon> well benny...if anyone's needing help...I have $ to donate 13:12:06 <Benny> its still a coop server.... 13:12:08 <V453000> this server is for building a lot and quickly 13:12:17 <Stablean> <bon> chris...aye 13:12:20 <V453000> no care about something as primitive as cash numbers 13:12:25 <Stablean> *** CB joined the game 13:12:25 <Benny> V453000: exactly 13:12:31 <V453000> I know right :P 13:12:32 <Stablean> <bon> cash = construction 13:12:34 <Stablean> <bon> is there more to say? 13:12:42 <Benny> more money = more construction 13:13:07 <V453000> openttd absolutely isnt about making money since the payment algorithm is super dumb - far = better 13:13:26 <V453000> so making everything cheap to motivate people to think about building better instead of more profittable is a good thing imo 13:13:26 <planetmaker> you can have that on PS a lot. No-one cares there about money. You also can coop there 13:13:27 <Benny> V453000: indeed 13:13:38 <planetmaker> This one should offer some variety in playing 13:13:54 <skyem123> ukrs2 can start in 1830 13:13:56 <skyem123> woah 13:14:04 <V453000> it has more effects than you may think, e.g. less people tend to spread over whole map just for distance 13:14:04 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...not my kind of thing tho 13:14:11 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has left the game (leaving) 13:14:27 <V453000> pm nobody is stopping you, but I wont make such configuration 13:14:29 <Stablean> <bon> skyem I usually like 1920 for pretty much anything I play 13:14:33 <V453000> because I think higher costs dont gain anything at all 13:14:57 <skyem123> is there a map achive of all the games played on the welcome server?? 13:15:02 <Benny> higher costs gain nothing but waiting times 13:15:04 <V453000> no skyem123 13:15:10 <planetmaker> V453000, no-one said you should. But it's not alright for people to constantly bitch if something different than all-insane defaults is used 13:15:29 <planetmaker> and I'm quite looking at Benny there who bitches since ever this map was uploaded 13:15:40 <V453000> nobody bitches about that either, only about things which reason 13:15:41 <planetmaker> but haven't seen him provide or offer a map 13:15:42 <Stablean> <bon> and yet did you hear a single peep from me? :P 13:15:46 <V453000> e.g. if smoething breaks, of course people bitch 13:15:56 <Benny> of course you single me out 13:16:01 <planetmaker> of course 13:16:02 <V453000> if something is functionally problematic, of course people bitch 13:16:46 <V453000> that someone makes a map doesnt mean they should be "protected" from negative criticism for mistakes or strange mechanics in the map 13:17:15 <V453000> his input is rather reasonable and therefore more or less constructive so I wouldnt take that too badly 13:18:01 <V453000> and especially as these are things which point out to "returning something to long tested standards", it is more than likely to be rather a hint 13:19:00 <Stablean> <bon> heh refinery area getting a bit busy...good thing theres only one untouched oilwell left 13:19:49 <planetmaker> Insane building without money considerations is what the PS is for. This server is not PS 13:20:05 <planetmaker> So other than easy-money configurations are absolutely acceptable 13:20:15 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:20:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Maraxus 13:20:37 <V453000> nope 13:20:47 <Stablean> <bon> hmm...say...if I go with ships I could get double food sources....hmmm *thinks* 13:21:05 <V453000> even with the same map this server wont be PS 13:21:08 <V453000> nothing will change that 13:21:14 <Stablean> <bon> oh nevermind..the ships don't like a lot of cargos 13:21:20 <skyem123> argh! 13:21:22 <Stablean> <bon> guess a new dairy it is 13:21:30 <Stablean> <bon> argh what? :-s 13:21:35 <skyem123> i build one depot and all the trains flock to it 13:21:38 <Benny> i thought this server was a way of introducing people to the PS server 13:21:43 <V453000> no 13:21:46 <planetmaker> no 13:21:55 <planetmaker> This server was meant to test OpenTTD 13:21:57 <V453000> just a random playground with solid settings 13:22:02 <planetmaker> You having fun is just collateral ;-) 13:22:08 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...did you by any chance click 'send for maintenance'? 13:22:09 <skyem123> i think the setting for servicing needs to be disabled 13:22:15 <skyem123> no... 13:22:21 <Benny> i see 13:22:26 <Stablean> <bon> well my depots are accessible and I've never had anything go there 13:22:30 <Benny> in that case building costs do not matter 13:22:36 <Stablean> <bon> so you must have done something manually 13:22:46 <skyem123> misclick 13:22:47 <skyem123> oops 13:22:52 <Stablean> <bon> eh :) 13:23:02 <skyem123> well, i killed marks train network... 13:23:10 * skyem123 is going to get killed 13:23:11 <planetmaker> This server just gained a life on its own ;-) 13:23:19 <V453000> "on its own" 13:23:57 <Stablean> <bon> where to put dairy.....hrm 13:25:14 <planetmaker> dairy products are to be put on my table, of course 13:25:29 <Stablean> <bon> heh..I meant as in where to fund one for myself :P 13:25:31 <Stablean> <bon> ;) 13:25:51 <Stablean> <bon> found a spot anyway 13:26:14 <skyem123> woah... 13:26:16 <skyem123> jam 13:26:38 <skyem123> my rail go upgraded... 13:28:16 <Stablean> *** Puczas has left the game (connection lost) 13:28:27 <skyem123> *downgraded 13:29:24 <Stablean> <bon> eh looks like depot graphics update themself over time 13:31:42 <Stablean> <bon> ah...the existing ones don't...apparently you just have to rebuild them :) 13:31:49 <skyem123> oops 13:32:04 <skyem123> why are all the trains getting serviced? 13:32:10 <Stablean> <bon> you ran autoreplace 13:32:40 <Stablean> *** ku3mi41 joined the game 13:32:45 <Stablean> <bon> and now looks like you pressed the 'all stop' button :) 13:32:52 <Stablean> <bon> oh...or maybe not 13:33:08 <skyem123> i didn't 13:33:17 <skyem123> mark is going to be sooo mad 13:33:28 <Stablean> <bon> you still have a lot of fund so don't sweat it too much 13:33:54 <skyem123> STOP! autoreplace!!!!!! 13:34:16 <Stablean> <bon> skyem to do that go to the autoreplace window 13:34:39 <skyem123> i presseed stop and it starts again... 13:34:49 <Stablean> *** ku3mi41 has left the game (leaving) 13:34:55 <Stablean> <bon> probably because you're not in the 'all fleet' autoreplace window 13:35:02 <skyem123> i am 13:35:05 <Stablean> <bon> or 'all trains' d epending how its worded 13:35:10 <skyem123> i am 13:35:25 <Stablean> <bon> well skyem where do you see the orange arrow icon then? is it next to 'all trains'? 13:35:35 <skyem123> yes 13:35:57 <Stablean> <bon> so that means you still have something on...you need to stop clicking wildly 13:35:59 <Stablean> <bon> eh? :) 13:36:09 <skyem123> i want to stop it! 13:36:20 <Stablean> <bon> so stop for a moment..and look at where you are actually clicking things? :/ 13:36:36 <skyem123> stop replaceing veicles 13:37:04 <Stablean> <bon> one sec.. 13:37:06 <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #3 13:37:31 <Stablean> <bon> you need to stop clicking like crazy 13:37:34 <skyem123> ok.... 13:37:40 <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game 13:37:47 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hi 13:38:40 <skyem123> how to stop autoreplace.... 13:38:55 <Stablean> <bon> by clicking the other button once and put your mouse down? -_- 13:39:01 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah Brel APPT 13:39:14 <skyem123> what? 13:39:21 <Stablean> <bon> chris...nice...too bad I don't have a big city to use it on yet 13:39:37 <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #1 13:40:04 <skyem123> i want to stop autoreplace... 13:40:12 <Stablean> <bon> so why did you keep starting it? 13:40:16 <Stablean> <bon> thats what I'm exactly seeing 13:40:20 <skyem123> i dont! 13:40:34 <skyem123> it does it on its own! 13:40:36 <Stablean> <bon> well then why did it go from 'no replacing' to 'EE deltic' while I was watching? 13:40:46 <Stablean> <bon> so you're needing to put the mouse down for at least a few seconds 13:40:55 <skyem123> I DON'T KNOW!!! 13:41:18 <V453000> RAGE 13:41:20 <Stablean> <bon> I'm only going say it one more time then leave it alone: stop clicking like silly 13:41:21 <V453000> RAGE 13:41:22 <V453000> RAGE 13:41:22 <Stablean> <bon> heh 13:41:25 <Stablean> <Vinnie> QUIT 13:41:27 <Stablean> <bon> btw hi vinnie how're you? 13:41:29 <V453000> GG 13:41:31 <skyem123> press what button? 13:41:31 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 13:41:40 <V453000> he is fine 13:42:56 <Stablean> <skyem123> someone else is on pink.... 13:43:03 <Stablean> <skyem123> maybe he is doing it... 13:43:06 <V453000> !players 13:43:09 <Stablean> V453000: Client 166 (Pink) is skyem123, in company 3 (Alcoholics United) 13:43:09 <Stablean> V453000: Client 149 (Yellow) is Christoph Stüwe, in company 11 (Christoph Stüwe Transport) 13:43:09 <Stablean> V453000: Client 155 (Blue) is bon, in company 1 (British Electric Railways (BER)) 13:43:09 <Stablean> V453000: Client 160 (Pale Green) is Campi, in company 14 (RuPla Camp.) 13:43:09 <Stablean> V453000: Client 182 (Pink) is CB, in company 3 (Alcoholics United) 13:43:34 <V453000> !rcon move 182 13:43:34 <Stablean> V453000: - Move a client to another company. Usage: move <client-id> <company-id> 13:43:34 <Stablean> V453000: - For valid client-id see 'clients', for valid company-id see 'companies', use 255 for moving to spectators 13:43:38 <V453000> !rcon move 182 255 13:43:38 <Stablean> V453000: *** CB has joined spectators 13:43:46 <Stablean> *** CB has joined company #3 13:43:50 <V453000> !rcon move 182 255 13:43:50 <Stablean> V453000: [All] CB: ? 13:43:50 <Stablean> V453000: *** CB has joined spectators 13:43:52 <Stablean> *** CB has joined company #3 13:43:58 <Stablean> <bon> ah....guess the two of us were both wrong 13:44:04 <Stablean> <bon> its someone else wrecking things 13:44:07 <V453000> !rcon move 182 255 13:44:07 <Stablean> V453000: *** CB has joined spectators 13:44:14 <Stablean> *** CB has joined company #3 13:44:19 <V453000> !rcon kick 182 13:44:19 <Stablean> V453000: *** CB has left the game (kicked by server) 13:44:19 <Stablean> V453000: *** CB has left the game (connection lost) 13:44:40 <Stablean> <bon> btw skyem...forget about anything we were yelling about....the real problem is fixed now I guess :-s 13:44:44 <Benny> you should password your company skyem 13:44:44 <Stablean> *** CB joined the game 13:44:55 <V453000> !players 13:44:57 <Stablean> V453000: Client 166 (Pink) is skyem123, in company 3 (Alcoholics United) 13:44:57 <Stablean> V453000: Client 149 (Yellow) is Christoph Stüwe, in company 11 (Christoph Stüwe Transport) 13:44:57 <Stablean> V453000: Client 155 (Blue) is bon, in company 1 (British Electric Railways (BER)) 13:44:57 <Stablean> V453000: Client 160 (Pale Green) is Campi, in company 14 (RuPla Camp.) 13:44:57 <Stablean> V453000: Client 188 (Green) is CB, in company 6 (Shnupz Transport) 13:45:01 <V453000> !rcon kick 188 13:45:01 <Stablean> V453000: [All] bon: umm wtf...now shunupz too? 13:45:02 <Stablean> V453000: *** CB has left the game (kicked by server) 13:45:02 <Stablean> V453000: *** CB has left the game (connection lost) 13:45:05 <skyem123> hmm 13:45:08 <Stablean> <bon> eh 13:45:15 <skyem123> mark doesn't know the password 13:45:21 <skyem123> (it was his company...) 13:45:25 <Stablean> <bon> oh forgot about one of my old pax line 13:45:26 <planetmaker> he can move himself into it 13:45:27 <V453000> he doesnt need a password 13:45:31 <Stablean> <CB> ? 13:45:31 <Stablean> *** CB joined the game 13:45:50 <V453000> !players 13:45:52 <Stablean> V453000: Client 166 (Pink) is skyem123, in company 3 (Alcoholics United) 13:45:52 <Stablean> V453000: Client 149 (Yellow) is Christoph Stüwe, in company 11 (Christoph Stüwe Transport) 13:45:52 <Stablean> V453000: Client 155 (Blue) is bon, in company 1 (British Electric Railways (BER)) 13:45:52 <Stablean> V453000: Client 160 (Pale Green) is Campi, in company 14 (RuPla Camp.) 13:45:52 <Stablean> V453000: Client 190 (Green) is CB, in company 6 (Shnupz Transport) 13:45:59 <V453000> wtf are you doing CB? 13:46:11 <Stablean> <CB> why kick 13:46:26 <Stablean> <CB> i cant start my own company 13:46:37 <Stablean> <bon> so ASK 13:46:41 <Stablean> <bon> jeeze 13:46:42 <V453000> not an excuse to invade others 13:46:44 <V453000> at all 13:46:47 <Stablean> <bon> indeed ^^ 13:46:47 <skyem123> no reason to mess up others... 13:47:17 <Stablean> <bon> skyem..btw your brown company...that could be closed down no? 13:47:23 <skyem123> yes it could 13:47:39 <Stablean> <bon> well thats a free slot for CB anyway 13:47:49 <Stablean> <bon> see how simple it was when you bother thinking cb? 13:47:51 <Stablean> <bon> :) 13:48:50 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 13:49:17 <Stablean> <V453000> dont think you need to sign the water with canals skyem123 13:49:19 <Stablean> <bon> CB for the last time thats *** not your company 13:49:21 <Stablean> <V453000> pretty lame 13:49:21 <Stablean> <bon> so stop messing it 13:49:38 <V453000> !rcon reset_company 8 13:49:38 <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted. 13:49:51 <Stablean> <CB> no slot for new comapmy 13:49:58 <Stablean> <bon> cb .. ARE YOU DEAF 13:50:04 <Stablean> *** CB has joined spectators 13:50:06 <Stablean> *** CB has started a new company (#8) 13:50:10 <Stablean> <bon> several times we have told you to stop messing companies you don't own? 13:50:10 <Stablean> <V453000> shut up bon this is not your business 13:50:20 <V453000> !rcon reset_company 9 13:50:20 <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted. 13:50:52 <Stablean> <bon> ehh how do you know niko isn't coming back? 13:50:56 <V453000> !rcon reset_company 15 13:50:56 <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted. 13:51:55 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 13:53:05 <skyem123> ugh... 13:53:53 <Stablean> <bon> whats the issue atm? 13:55:06 <skyem123> i hope mark gets the irc message i sent hi, 13:55:08 <skyem123> i hope mark gets the irc message i sent him 13:55:19 <skyem123> about his company password 13:55:23 <Stablean> <bon> ah ok 13:55:26 <Stablean> <bon> yeah 13:55:36 <Stablean> <bon> if you're not around and I see him I can mention it too allright? 13:55:43 <V453000> god we told you again that he doesnt need his password 13:55:53 <skyem123> what? 13:56:02 <V453000> he can move himself into the company through rcon 13:56:12 <planetmaker> skyem123, every admin in this channel can move players into any company. And thus needs no password. 13:56:23 <planetmaker> as he can of course also move himself 13:56:27 <skyem123> ok 13:57:07 <skyem123> when does the good freight engine come? 13:57:16 <Stablean> <bon> skyem..diesel or electric? :) 13:57:31 *** Benny has quit IRC 13:57:37 <skyem123> witch is better. i have electric 13:57:44 <Stablean> <bon> mm one sec 13:58:54 <Stablean> <bon> well 1962 has Type 4 which is already here now .. or 1983 has Class 58 due anytime soon 13:59:04 <Stablean> <bon> thats for two diesels 13:59:24 <Stablean> <bon> Class 58 is a bit slower than Type 4 tho 14:01:51 *** Djanxy has quit IRC 14:02:03 <skyem123> Sulzer Type 4? 14:02:13 <skyem123> or brush type 4 14:02:33 <Stablean> <bon> oh ops I didn't noticed that overlap.. 14:02:35 <Stablean> <bon> the Brush one ofc 14:03:33 <Stablean> <bon> geeze...thats funny .. two identical types tho 14:03:59 <skyem123> when will there be a good electric one? 14:04:14 <Stablean> <bon> skyem.... Class 92 isn't till 1993 14:04:37 <Stablean> <bon> for now you just have the EM2 for overhead or BR Type HA for 3rd rail freights 14:04:59 <Stablean> <bon> (to me anyway) 14:06:58 <Stablean> <bon> btw theres still a few more minor wagon capacity upgrades marked for 1985 14:07:04 <Stablean> <bon> but then otherwise thats it in term of wagons for good 14:11:32 <Stablean> <bon> btw skyem... your train 20 isn't exactly making good profit...perhaps too high runcost at 15-23000 pounds anyway 14:11:55 <skyem123> i didn't upgrade it.... 14:12:00 <skyem123> ARGH! 14:12:03 <Stablean> <bon> ehh well now you know why its there :-s 14:13:42 <Stablean> <bon> anyway time for a route for some emu's... 14:19:36 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher joined the game 14:19:43 <Stablean> <bon> hi woodbutcher 14:19:45 <Stablean> <bon> how doing? :) 14:19:47 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi bon 14:19:49 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi all 14:19:55 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hi 14:20:02 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> I'm good how are you? 14:20:04 <skyem123> Hello! 14:20:14 <Stablean> <bon> doing ok..just about finished a route before you paused to come on here :) 14:20:24 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> oh yeah my company runs smooth 14:20:39 <Stablean> <bon> except you could learn what a slope is? ;) 14:20:42 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:20:45 <Stablean> <bon> heh 14:20:56 <Stablean> <bon> anyway...enuff said 14:21:06 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> who me? 14:21:06 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher...have fun picking new trains etc :) 14:21:16 <Stablean> <bon> oh no..that was to chris 14:21:26 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> woot is a slope? 14:21:32 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thanks, got a suggestion for a good engine? 14:21:39 <Stablean> <bon> one sec woodbutcher... 14:21:50 <Stablean> *** CB has left the game (leaving) 14:21:58 <Stablean> <bon> hmm thats a small network....lets see.. 14:22:20 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> Brush Type 4 is nice 14:22:30 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher well if you want stay diesels then my suggestion is this... 14:22:56 <Stablean> <bon> Metro Cammell DMU for the passengers ... Brush Type 4 with new wagons for the freights 14:23:04 <Stablean> <bon> bit different speeds but considering the small lines it'll be ok 14:23:42 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok i'll check 'em out 14:24:21 <Stablean> <bon> btw livestocks only can go in the vintage tiny livestock van 14:24:29 <Stablean> <bon> don't ask me why pikka never bothered making any upgrade to that 14:24:36 <Stablean> <bon> other cargos have their own newer wagons tho 14:24:50 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol of course 14:25:21 <Stablean> <bon> btw woodbutcher if you want build one more station... 14:25:29 <Stablean> <bon> the textile mill can accept plant fibers :P 14:25:35 <Stablean> <bon> I'll leave that choice to you tho ;) 14:25:53 <Stablean> <bon> oh wait... 14:25:57 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah i was nearly broke when i went to sleep 14:26:19 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher if you still want carry mail you'll have to do with loco hauled trains instead (as the dmu/emu can't take mail last I checked) ... 14:26:19 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> kinda surprised that i'm still here 14:26:42 <Stablean> <bon> you could mix Sulzer 4 for the passenger/mail and Brush 4 for freights if you want 14:26:46 <Stablean> <bon> but its your own company so :P 14:27:01 <Stablean> <bon> and just to humor you heres a bit of a boost... 14:27:12 <Stablean> <bon> have fun :) 14:27:12 <V453000> bon you dont want to know why there arent modern livestock wagons :) 14:27:20 <V453000> (because it is realistic) 14:27:26 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> xD 14:27:28 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> pwnd! 14:27:42 <Stablean> <bon> usa had some newer ones in the 1950s actually 14:27:45 <V453000> officially because "there wasnt any boxcar like that in britain in those times" 14:27:56 <Stablean> <bon> although that doesn't count the specialized (only a few of them) wagons for the modern circus trains 14:28:05 <V453000> funnily enough, if you play with UKRS2 and with expiring vehicles, at some time of the game you will not have ANY livestock wagons 14:28:06 <V453000> XD 14:28:19 <V453000> so yeah realism ftw 14:28:45 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok back in a bit 14:28:47 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has joined spectators 14:28:55 <Stablean> <bon> ok then :) 14:29:46 <Stablean> <bon> is it possible to make cows sick from eating too much bagged feeds? 14:30:36 <Stablean> <bon> because I seem to be sending 300+ crates/monthly of farm supplies to just one dairy farm nonstop :) 14:30:42 <Stablean> <bon> hehehe 14:34:40 <Stablean> <bon> anyway still have 2 unfinished chains yet but going take a break for a while tho 14:35:06 <Stablean> <bon> skyem have fun (and as I said..sorry about us yelling at each others...got to want to whack CB eh?) 14:35:26 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 14:48:49 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah guys... 14:48:49 <Stablean> *** acs joined the game 14:48:58 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i build a 18 mill EUR bridge... 14:49:13 <Stablean> *** acs has started a new company (#9) 14:54:17 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (downloading map took too long) 14:54:17 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 14:54:49 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> zzZZZzzzZZzz 14:55:03 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hi player 14:55:11 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to iubin 14:55:13 <Stablean> <iubin> hi 14:55:32 <skyem123> hello 14:55:42 <Stablean> <iubin> map change? 14:58:42 <skyem123> ? 14:59:04 <Stablean> <iubin> I mean, map changed since last time I joined 14:59:22 <skyem123> yup, 14:59:28 <skyem123> i made this map 14:59:38 <Stablean> <iubin> cool job 14:59:40 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> its a nice map yo 15:00:27 <Stablean> <iubin> shall I start a new company or maybe I could join an existing one? 15:00:29 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has joined company #10 15:00:31 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> back 15:00:42 <skyem123> it's very hard to start on this map 15:00:52 <Stablean> <iubin> I had that idea 15:01:16 <Stablean> *** acs has left the game (leaving) 15:01:39 <skyem123> rails cost £1376 15:02:18 <skyem123> purr is cheaper than dual power... 15:02:21 <skyem123> wow... 15:03:16 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> holy bridge arama Batman! 15:03:26 <skyem123> what? 15:03:44 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> someones making crazy long bridges 15:03:54 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> and it costs over 16 millions! 15:05:40 <Stablean> *** iubin has started a new company (#9) 15:08:01 <skyem123> infrastructure sharing would be useful on this map. sharing bridges and the fact that rails cost a lot will probably share rails. 15:10:31 <Stablean> *** iubin has left the game (leaving) 15:11:46 <skyem123> oops. someone forgot to properly name a veicle 15:12:35 <skyem123> uhh... 15:12:46 <skyem123> can towns build roads? 15:12:57 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yes 15:13:19 <skyem123> i thought i disabled that... 15:15:41 *** happy_ has quit IRC 15:16:33 <Stablean> *** CB joined the game 15:18:49 <Stablean> *** CB has left the game (leaving) 15:22:29 <skyem123> eek, 15:22:40 <skyem123> timed SML looks complex 15:32:20 *** Mark__ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:32:25 <Mark__> hai 15:32:30 <skyem123> hello. 15:32:35 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 15:32:36 <Stablean> *** CGW joined the game 15:32:39 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hey 15:35:46 <Stablean> *** Mupama joined the game 15:37:56 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:39:33 <Mark__> hows the game going 15:40:04 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hmmm? 15:40:25 *** Mark is now known as Guest4090 15:40:25 *** Mark__ is now known as Mark 15:40:25 *** Guest4090 has quit IRC 15:40:25 *** Mark has quit IRC 15:40:47 <skyem123> oopd 15:40:49 <skyem123> *oopd 15:40:52 <skyem123> *oops 15:41:07 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:41:30 *** Mark__ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:41:41 <skyem123> ??? 15:42:06 <Mark__> ? 15:42:17 <Mark__> guess it doesn't like me logging in from 2 locations 15:42:21 <skyem123> ah 15:42:23 <skyem123> i see 15:44:35 <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game 15:44:50 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello again 15:44:56 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 15:52:23 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> how long runs this server? 15:52:31 <Stablean> <Vinnie> till people get bored 15:59:22 <Stablean> *** Sayu joined the game 16:00:32 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 16:00:34 <Stablean> *** Sayu has left the game (leaving) 16:00:42 <Stablean> <bon> back for a bit finally 16:00:46 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> wb 16:00:49 <Stablean> <bon> ty 16:02:23 <Stablean> <bon> mmm looks like I did have things pretty stable for now 16:06:43 <Stablean> <bon> ehhh...jubin seem to not know how to look at industry windows 16:06:57 <Stablean> <bon> he's trying to pick up supples from a factory that requires it not produce it :-> 16:07:19 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> whoops 16:09:45 <Stablean> <bon> afk to eat anyway 16:21:06 <Mark__> !companies 16:21:09 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 1 (Blue): British Electric Railways (BER) 16:21:09 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 2 (Light Blue): JoeSchmoe Transport 16:21:09 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 3 (Pink): Alcoholics United 16:21:09 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 4 (Orange): jedraf Transport 16:21:09 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 5 (Red): planetm4ker Transport 16:21:11 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 6 (Green): Shnupz Transport 16:21:11 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 7 (Purple): Bridge Industries 16:21:13 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 8 (Dark Green): CB Transport 16:21:13 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 9 (Brown): iubin Transport 16:21:15 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 10 (White): Woodbutcher Transport 16:21:15 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 11 (Yellow): Christoph Stüwe Transport 16:21:17 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 12 (Grey): ROM5419 Logistics Initiative 16:21:17 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 13 (Mauve): Mufama company 16:21:19 <Stablean> Mark__: Company 14 (Pale Green): RuPla Camp. 16:21:51 *** Mark__ has quit IRC 16:29:39 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah yo bitchez! 16:29:52 <skyem123> bon, what was the good electric freight engine you said you would use when it comes out? 16:36:24 <Stablean> <bon> back now 16:36:27 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...eh... 16:36:46 <Stablean> <bon> Class 92 .. but its not due for a little bit longer yet 16:37:03 <skyem123> Bush Class 92? 16:37:10 <Stablean> <bon> ya 16:37:20 <Stablean> <bon> btw whats with train 17 of yours?? :P 16:37:25 <skyem123> i think i was offered to test that... 16:37:40 <Stablean> <bon> ah...well it'll come for all of us in 1 year ish then 16:37:41 <skyem123> train 17 is needed to make towns grow 16:39:56 <Stablean> <bon> ah heh...well in 1-2 years you could use ABB Class 325 which is a cheap highspeed postal train :) 16:40:05 <skyem123> London Underground 1992 Stock is here 16:40:08 <Stablean> <bon> probably less runcost too 16:40:31 <Stablean> <bon> 120+kph with 60 bags of mail onboard (and whatever you add via extra mail cars) 16:40:33 <Stablean> <bon> ;) 16:40:47 <Stablean> <bon> anyway I need to afk for the afternoon now..so meh...no constructions this time :-s 16:40:58 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 16:55:03 *** Benny has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:55:14 <skyem123> hello 16:55:24 <Benny> good evening 16:55:39 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 17:12:16 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> how much hours are 50 years? 17:14:10 <Benny> around 11 17:14:19 <Benny> http://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_gameplay#How_long_is_a_game_day_in_real_time.3F 17:17:26 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> enough played for today i think ... lol ... 17:18:01 <skyem123> upgrading trains == more profit 17:18:19 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> upgrade to what? 17:18:53 <skyem123> i upgraded the mish-mash of engines to Bush Class 92 17:19:21 <Stablean> <CGW> Hi guys, anybody know what year this server restarts? 17:19:56 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> usually when people get bored and ask for a new map 17:20:07 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> and everyone agrees 17:20:19 <skyem123> people have asked fora new map since the start 17:20:27 <Stablean> <CGW> haha so forever!! awesome, was looking for a server like this for ages 17:20:28 <skyem123> (Too hard for some people) 17:20:31 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i run brush type 4 on the most tracks i dont think it will give me more profite... 17:20:41 <Stablean> <CGW> shame there are no big ships, why is this? 17:20:53 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> would be too easy 17:20:58 <Benny> CGW: do !rules :) 17:22:09 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> CGW you want some money? 17:22:37 <Stablean> <CGW> no its ok, i'm just getting to grips with this server etc, so no money. 17:22:42 <Stablean> <CGW> ty though 17:22:50 <skyem123> this is a hard to start game 17:22:53 <skyem123> *map 17:23:13 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:23:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Jam35 17:23:18 <skyem123> Hello! 17:23:25 <Jam35> hi 17:23:32 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi jam 17:23:33 <Benny> evening 17:24:10 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i have a rating over 800 i think this is fine, or? 17:25:22 <Benny> try to get it to 1000 ;) 17:27:12 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotta go cyas 17:27:20 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> have fun 17:27:20 <skyem123> bye! 17:27:29 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has left the game (leaving) 17:27:36 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 17:28:16 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> till which year new trains apears? 17:28:36 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#15) 17:28:45 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 17:30:32 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> lalala 17:31:35 <skyem123> your rail network is LONG Christoph 17:31:54 <Stablean> <Vinnie> he cant make that next games 17:32:03 <skyem123> why not? 17:32:04 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> why? 17:32:15 <Stablean> <Vinnie> basecost mod needs to make terraform costs for water high again 17:32:35 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> its high 17:32:42 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has started a new company (#15) 17:32:54 <Stablean> <Vinnie> 230k isnt high on this server 17:32:57 <Benny> whats wrong, land bridges everywhere? 17:33:11 <Stablean> <Jam35> yes 17:33:13 <Stablean> <Vinnie> and canal tricks 17:33:21 <Stablean> <Jam35> the parameter is set to x8 17:33:32 <Stablean> <Jam35> normally x512 or more 17:33:46 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 17:33:47 <Benny> the rules do state to keep TF to a minimum 17:33:56 <Benny> !rules 17:33:56 <Stablean> Benny: Rules are at http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart/Stable 17:35:53 <skyem123> wow. 16 tile traind 17:35:55 <skyem123> *trains 17:36:13 <Stablean> <Vinnie> previous games people kept to their island and managed to get 200 trains on it, imo thats better gameplay 17:36:33 <Stablean> <Vinnie> also stationwalking is not allowed and used alot 17:36:44 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> what is statinwalking? 17:36:57 <skyem123> what mark did, i think. 17:37:04 <Stablean> <Vinnie> expanding your station more then needed 17:37:10 <Stablean> <Vinnie> to improve the catchment area 17:38:12 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> ok. my stations are ok, or? 17:39:02 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah, i don't think this game anybody will get a problem 17:47:14 <Stablean> <skyem123> argh! 17:47:36 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 17:47:40 <Stablean> <skyem123> how do i stop a industry from putting cargo into a station? 17:47:42 <Stablean> <V453000> heyo 17:47:44 <Stablean> <V453000> you cant 17:47:45 <skyem123> Hello! 17:47:50 <Stablean> <V453000> only by killing the station 17:48:04 <skyem123> that won't do... 17:48:27 <Stablean> <V453000> no other option 17:51:53 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> have fun maybe we see us tomorror 17:52:51 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 17:52:56 <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> bb 17:53:05 <Benny> bye 17:53:06 <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe has left the game (leaving) 17:54:21 <skyem123> purr is cheaper than electric rail... 17:55:21 <Stablean> *** acs joined the game 17:55:57 <Stablean> *** acs has started a new company (#15) 17:57:29 <V453000> (: 17:57:55 <skyem123> but purr is useless 17:57:57 <skyem123> :-p 17:58:47 <V453000> still good for marking ... but yeah not really the gain of universal rail for ukrs 18:06:04 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (general timeout) 18:06:04 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (connection lost) 18:11:38 <Stablean> *** acs has left the game (leaving) 18:12:55 <Stablean> <CGW> do you think we'll get a map reset somepoint tonight? 18:13:03 <Stablean> <CGW> ie the next 3 hrs or so 18:13:16 <Benny> no 18:13:17 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 18:14:03 <Stablean> <CGW> ok ty, how about 10hrs later? 18:14:39 <Jam35> !date 18:14:39 <Stablean> Jam35: 27 Aug 2001 18:15:25 <Benny> i think the game will probably run for at least some more days 18:15:44 <Stablean> <CGW> oh wow. ok 18:18:39 <Jam35> in the meantime ask the players if they are bored yet 18:19:11 <Jam35> if a consensus is reached maybe something can be done... 18:19:27 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:19:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 18:19:42 <skyem123> I'm not ready for a reset 18:20:02 <Jam35> there is the answer :) 18:20:24 <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game 18:20:28 <Stablean> <skyem123> hello! 18:20:30 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey 18:20:36 <Stablean> <CGW> I don't want to wreck anyones game, as long as people are enjoying it, it should continue 18:24:44 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#15) 18:24:55 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Puczas 18:29:02 <Stablean> *** abz joined the game 18:29:52 *** skyem123 has quit IRC 18:30:06 <Stablean> *** abz has left the game (leaving) 18:30:14 *** skyem123 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:30:50 <Stablean> <skyem123> dun dun dun! 19:10:46 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has left the game (leaving) 19:10:57 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher joined the game 19:11:08 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 19:39:16 <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game 19:40:56 *** Benny has quit IRC 20:16:03 <Stablean> *** SoleOfSoetoro joined the game 20:25:24 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 20:25:39 <Stablean> <bon> hi again finally :) 20:25:43 <Stablean> <bon> (for a while only tho heh) 20:25:45 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 20:25:59 <Stablean> <bon> mmm 92 million euro.....geeze...where to put that :P 20:26:01 <Stablean> <bon> heheh 20:26:07 <Stablean> <bon> how're you doing there? 20:26:07 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> me :) 20:26:26 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> meh 20:26:32 <Stablean> <bon> heh...well and to think first you seem a bit surprised...but heh... 20:26:46 <Stablean> <bon> that a lot for you now? 20:26:46 <Stablean> <bon> ;) 20:27:01 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thanks :) 20:27:13 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i had to fund a bunch of stuff 20:27:19 <Stablean> <bon> np :) 20:27:29 <Stablean> <bon> I may need a bit funding too but we'll see soon 20:28:03 <Stablean> <bon> seriously what is wrong with this stupid turfing player :| 20:28:21 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> who? 20:28:41 <Stablean> <bon> ehh now it looks like we have two different players that are blocking waters and lands for no reason 20:28:59 <Stablean> <bon> maybe skyem should had left the terraform costs as it used to be 20:29:02 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh i know what ya mean now 20:29:17 <Stablean> <bon> I've only really had to terraform like maybe what 5-10 tiles ever since I started here 20:29:29 <Stablean> <bon> oh well at least skyem would know for the next game he makes eh? 20:29:36 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 20:29:44 <Stablean> <SoleOfSoetoro> t 20:29:50 <Stablean> <SoleOfSoetoro> the real question is 20:29:52 <Stablean> <bon> oh looks who just showed up...been a while so I'll just say hi there jam35 :) 20:30:02 <Stablean> <SoleOfSoetoro> what to do with the waffle question 20:30:08 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 20:30:31 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi jam 20:30:48 <skyem123> all my freight engines are now brush class 92 20:31:19 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...heh nice :) 20:31:27 <skyem123> lots more profit 20:31:35 <Stablean> <bon> I'm staying with what I have tho since it seem relatively stable as it is 20:31:46 <Stablean> <bon> may add some food trains tho.. dairy doesn't have anything being picked up 20:31:56 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> got milk? 20:32:14 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher TONS of milk from 'blue dairyfarm no.2' station indeed 20:32:26 <Stablean> <bon> its only the dairy plant itself that has milk dropped off but no food picked up yet 20:32:28 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> nice 20:32:28 <Stablean> <Mupama> restart..plz... 20:32:30 <Stablean> <bon> :) 20:32:46 <Stablean> <bon> mupama..learn how to play a bit more nicely and maybe it'll be better for you eh? 20:33:09 <Stablean> <Mupama> hmm.. 20:33:24 <Stablean> <bon> I'm surprised the normal terraform costs aren't on 20:33:31 <Stablean> <bon> you would had gone WAY bankrupt trying to do that otherwise 20:33:37 <Stablean> <bon> :) 20:33:42 <skyem123> what is "normal" costs 20:33:58 <Stablean> <SoleOfSoetoro> basecost adjusements 20:34:16 <Stablean> <SoleOfSoetoro> its like a few million. 20:34:26 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...well...mm you'll have to ask for a copy of the basecost parameters from the prior maps 20:34:27 <skyem123> i know. i wonder what the setting is 20:34:39 <Stablean> <bon> but it was like...you could not even afford to blow up water in first place 20:34:57 <Stablean> <Mupama> restart plz~ 20:35:08 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 20:35:12 <Stablean> <bon> mupama..you could reset your company if you want 20:35:18 <Stablean> <Mupama> everybody restart agree? 20:35:27 <skyem123> Nope not me. 20:35:30 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> no 20:35:34 <Stablean> <bon> nope..I still have many things I could do in my area 20:36:17 <Jam35> e.g. raise/lower land x64, clear water x256 20:36:32 <Stablean> <bon> ah.. x64 .. well there you go skyem :) 20:36:37 <Jam35> is usual ish 20:36:52 <Stablean> <bon> yeah I guess anything *except* below x5 sounds reasonable..right? 20:37:07 <Stablean> <bon> :) 20:37:18 <Jam35> or something similar that makes creating land in water in the many miilions 20:37:28 <Stablean> <bon> aye 20:37:29 <Jam35> *millions 20:37:44 <skyem123> next time i make a map i will make better islands 20:38:02 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...mmm I guess you could...I thought mine seem fine..or I maybe got lucky 20:39:46 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 20:40:03 <Stablean> *** SoleOfSoetoro has left the game (leaving) 20:40:27 <Stablean> <Vinnie> for new map also 20:40:35 <Stablean> <Vinnie> station spread 7 20:40:41 <Stablean> <bon> 7 seem too short 20:41:15 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #9 20:41:35 <skyem123> uhm... 20:41:59 <Stablean> <Vinnie> who is making map? 20:42:22 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has left the game (leaving) 20:42:34 <Stablean> <bon> if you make it 7 then that kinda slams some freight stations and most passengers 20:42:44 <Stablean> <Vinnie> \ 20:43:02 <Stablean> <Vinnie> i can make everything except SRNW with 7 tile stations 20:43:24 <Stablean> <Vinnie> would you like 7 tile long train? 20:43:40 <Stablean> <bon> its not the trains I'm after but rather platform alignment and catchment 20:43:43 <Taede> just make it 7 20:43:46 <Stablean> <bon> I sometimes build L shaped stations 20:43:56 <Stablean> <bon> (especially with tight spaces...artic maps shows that) 20:44:04 <Taede> i think it can be changed whith the map running 20:44:16 <Stablean> <Vinnie> exacrly 20:44:23 <skyem123> that WILL break some stations... 20:44:27 <Stablean> <bon> taede..if you do 7 then you'll have to keep towns very tiny .. may as well as forget about pax 20:44:37 <Stablean> <Vinnie> but you can use waypoints for a drop stations 20:44:44 <Taede> and making it larger is easier than shrinking it 20:45:34 <Stablean> <Vinnie> but 16 leads to sttion walking from the start 20:45:44 <Stablean> <bon> vinnie not with sensible players 20:46:12 <Stablean> <bon> thats all I can say... forcing the problems with worser players onto better players isn't very helpful anyway 20:47:00 <V453000> k lets make it 4 20:47:04 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 20:47:07 <Taede> you also dont need to cover a town with a single station 20:47:08 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes 20:47:11 <skyem123> erm... 20:47:14 <skyem123> erk... 20:47:21 <Stablean> <bon> taede...what do you mean? 20:47:23 <Taede> you can have tl1-2 trains transfer to grand central station 20:47:33 <V453000> (you should do that in fact) 20:47:43 <Stablean> <bon> taede...how do you decide when its supposed to be "grand"? 20:47:49 <Stablean> <bon> 4000+ or what? 20:48:11 <V453000> (: 20:48:20 <V453000> do you need a precise guide or what 20:48:37 <Stablean> <Vinnie> give him a picture of 201 20:48:47 <Stablean> <bon> 200 is too small :) 20:48:47 <Taede> when you need it, depends on many factors 20:49:04 <Taede> 201, is that the 1city whole map one? 20:49:12 <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes 20:49:19 <Stablean> <bon> oh that a map name? 20:49:22 <Stablean> <bon> sorry nevermind then 20:50:13 <Taede> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_201_-_210#gameid_201 20:50:39 <Taede> 207's a good one too 20:52:42 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:53:43 <Stablean> <bon> btw haven't really bothered with delievering gasoline to town on this map now but I guess if next map still has similar costs + ukrs/firs I could probably actually try make a tube-served town with one single terminal station. done it a bit in past elsewhere 20:54:28 <skyem123> i will lower costs in my next map 20:54:48 <Stablean> <bon> well...if you're going to raise another cost then I guess I'll take that 20:55:02 <Stablean> <bon> :) 20:55:07 <skyem123> removing urban monorail and purr 20:55:27 <Stablean> <bon> that I'm ok with 20:55:31 <skyem123> no other price will be risen. (i don't want to get lynched) 20:56:03 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...well what I meant was if you're going to raise the TF costs 'back up there' then I wouldn't mind the revised track cost perhaps 20:56:05 <Stablean> <bon> ;) 20:56:07 <Stablean> <Vinnie> why not copy the basecost parameters from previous stable games? 20:57:06 <Stablean> *** Mupama has left the game (leaving) 20:58:11 <Stablean> <bon> btw skyem I finally decided to get a class 92 too ;) 20:58:27 <Stablean> <bon> will be two soon :p 20:59:37 <Stablean> *** Taede joined the game 21:02:39 <skyem123> £150 per track 21:02:45 <skyem123> is that better? 21:03:00 <Stablean> <bon> hmmm.... would 300 be a compromise? 21:03:15 <Stablean> <bon> but either is ok :) 21:03:24 <skyem123> well, in normal openttd it is 90 21:03:44 <skyem123> so 150 IS the compromisr 21:03:47 <skyem123> so 150 IS the compromise 21:04:05 <Stablean> <bon> skyem heh no need to repeat 21:04:13 <Stablean> <bon> sure lets try that (if thats just for plain rail?) 21:04:43 <Stablean> <bon> and hmm does anyone want to leave bridge at 12 or shorten it a bit to 10? 21:05:06 <Stablean> <bon> I've always only needed 2-8 for most part 21:06:06 <skyem123> i like 12. 21:06:24 <Stablean> <bon> ok np..just had to ask anyway 21:06:56 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:07:18 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 21:07:38 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...btw there is one tiny thing that shouldn't had been on but..next map maybe disable 'towns allowed to build roads' for the sake of a city grower? 21:07:49 <skyem123> yes 21:07:53 <Stablean> <bon> ;) 21:08:15 <skyem123> anything else? 21:08:49 <Stablean> <bon> hmm....well....is there a point in the dwe stations? 21:09:00 <skyem123> ? 21:09:02 <Stablean> <bon> I've always only touched the japanstation or industrystation tiles 21:09:20 <Stablean> <bon> and I haven't seen anyone else even using either dwe or vast here 21:09:32 <Stablean> <bon> but thats up to you 21:09:34 <skyem123> for other people? 21:09:45 <Stablean> <bon> would make for easier shorter list to scroll through anyway 21:11:45 <skyem123> can do without dwe 21:12:05 <Stablean> <bon> that would remove 10+ slots from the station menu so thanks a LOT 0_o 21:13:03 <Stablean> <bon> I guess dwe is just more for these people that fancy making real-looking stations as much space as it uses up 21:13:13 <Stablean> <bon> I could be wrong tho..I never saw any reason to touch it 21:13:55 <Stablean> <bon> oh yeah skyem this is just optional but perhaps tell the generator to plant a wee bit less trees? ;) 21:14:01 <Stablean> <bon> heh 21:14:18 <skyem123> how? 21:17:23 <Stablean> <bon> hmmm its a bit different than what I'm used to and for some weird reason the tree option is grayed out 21:17:23 <Stablean> *** Yugi_D joined the game 21:17:31 <Stablean> <bon> so I dunno sorry..I guess I'll leave that to you 21:18:59 <Stablean> *** Yugi_D has left the game (leaving) 21:19:06 <happy_> hi all how the game going 21:19:16 <Stablean> <bon> ehhh doing too well here happy :) 21:19:18 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy 21:19:30 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> it's goin :) 21:19:52 <Stablean> <bon> I'll admit I'm having fun being able to manage short trains finally 21:19:55 <Stablean> <bon> but no comment :) 21:20:07 <happy_> how things wood 21:24:29 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 21:24:51 <Stablean> <bon> he seem to be doing somewhat ok as far as I can see? :) 21:25:17 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> I'm good thanks, you happy? 21:25:31 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> game is ok, still learning this FIRS stuff 21:25:45 <Stablean> <bon> <hopes I get a refinery on 'my' island on next map but wouldn't complain! 21:25:52 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 21:28:00 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher well...at least FIRS lets you decide how much cargo you want to unload which is friendly in a way right? :) 21:28:10 <Stablean> *** Taede has left the game (leaving) 21:28:18 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> it does? 21:28:30 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher let me make a comparsion so you understand.. 21:29:16 <Stablean> <bon> firs steelmill = you can drop ore and/or coal at whim .. ecs steelmill = it'll complain if you only deliver just one alone ... pbi mill = umm I forgot as never ever touched it again 21:29:34 <Stablean> <bon> and thats only one industry, theres many others to compare with 21:29:53 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok I thought you meant there were train orders like unload x tons 21:30:07 <Stablean> <bon> ahh sorry no :) 21:30:41 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i like this setup its just complicated until you learn what wants what, produces what, etc. 21:31:11 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> and I can't look at a building and say for sure what it is 21:31:19 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> or a farm 21:31:49 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher ahh...well that may take you a while but there is actually a pattern to it 21:32:11 <Stablean> <bon> the only thing I do want to yell at andy about is how the stone+sand and clay quarries for no reason share exact same shape and layout >_< 21:32:45 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well easier to use a template 21:33:11 <Stablean> <bon> but anything else...eg one plant with several silo towers is a sugar refinery .. farm with red barn is for milk but farm with greenish-roof barn is for grain .. etc 21:33:45 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah just need to learn how they look, haven't played this set enough to know them well 21:34:00 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> anyway gotta go for now 21:34:06 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cyas, have fun 21:34:16 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has joined spectators 21:34:32 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has left the game (leaving) 21:35:36 <Stablean> <bon> np...it did take me a while to figure out the farms and sometimes I almost pick wrong one tho 21:35:40 <Stablean> <bon> so its not only him :) 21:36:27 <Stablean> <bon> skyem one thing I'll liek to mention if you don't mind.. I think ukrs2+addon for a change from NUTS doesn't seem too bad (I hate the non-uk things showing up in buy list but wouldn't complain heh) 21:37:13 <Stablean> <bon> anyway I need to afk for a bit re frying supper etc 21:37:19 <Stablean> <bon> (may check irc soon tho) 21:37:23 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 21:55:05 <Stablean> *** iTKerry joined the game 21:58:40 <Stablean> *** iTKerry has left the game (leaving) 22:01:52 <skyem123> hmmm 22:02:06 <skyem123> FIRS does not like islands 22:04:18 <skyem123> well, i have another map. 22:04:29 <skyem123> i'm not sure how well it will play 22:05:26 <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game 22:06:58 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher joined the game 22:07:02 <skyem123> hmmm 22:07:28 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hello you anti-social types :) 22:07:41 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 22:07:45 <Stablean> <V453000> mu 22:07:51 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hy 22:08:00 <skyem123> i need a good islands hightmap 22:08:11 <Stablean> <V453000> heightmap? fer wat :d 22:08:19 <skyem123> another map 22:08:27 <Stablean> <V453000> that doesnt explain why heightmap 22:08:49 <skyem123> making islands is difficult to get right 22:08:57 <Stablean> <V453000> the current ones are kind of okay 22:09:09 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont see a reason for a heightmap 22:09:11 <skyem123> "Kind Of" 22:09:20 <Stablean> <V453000> okay enough to me 22:12:43 <Stablean> <V453000> also creating random heightmaps is probably a bit more ass than pressing generate button in game 22:12:45 <Stablean> <V453000> just saying 22:15:45 <Stablean> *** Fixer joined the game 22:16:16 <Stablean> <V453000> if you have some, I can check the map in the morning 22:16:20 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:21:24 *** Djanxy has joined #openttdcoop.stable 22:25:44 <skyem123> skyem123's map 3.0 (Testing): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/OpenTTDMaps/map3/map3.0.sav (Please do not use until tested by V453000) 22:27:07 *** Djanxy has joined #openttdcoop.stable 22:28:23 *** Djanxy has quit IRC 22:31:12 <Stablean> <Vinnie> inflation in your new map 22:32:26 <skyem123> oops 22:33:00 <Stablean> <Vinnie> and still station spread 16, but that can change ingame 22:34:23 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has left the game (leaving) 22:34:31 <skyem123> we should have a vote 22:35:42 <Stablean> <Vinnie> for what? 22:36:10 <skyem123> between (and including) 16 and 8. then get the mean average. (vote for station spread) 22:36:28 <Stablean> <Vinnie> i vote 1 22:36:43 <Stablean> *** Fixer has left the game (leaving) 22:36:58 <skyem123> between (and including) 16 and 8. 22:37:21 <Stablean> <Vinnie> 16 will mean that a station can bridge continents/islands in your map 22:37:49 <skyem123> depends... 22:38:57 <skyem123> on how wide the gaps between islands are 22:39:07 <Stablean> <Vinnie> well you have the same settings as this map and you expect a more entertaining game 22:41:26 <skyem123> someone should make a different map! I like the settings I have chosen. I shouldn't be "THE CREATOR OF ALL MAPS". 22:42:30 <Stablean> <CGW> all these sets on the giant great britain map 22:43:36 <skyem123> ? 22:43:57 <skyem123> skyem123's map 3.0 (Testing): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/OpenTTDMaps/map3/map3.0.sav (Please do not use until tested by V453000). Changelog: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/OpenTTDMaps/map3/CHANGELOG.txt 22:44:24 <Stablean> <CGW> that should be the next map 22:44:50 <skyem123> what map? 22:45:32 <skyem123> skyem123's map 3.1 (Testing): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/OpenTTDMaps/map3/map3.1.sav (Please do not use until tested by V453000). Changelog: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5321798/OpenTTDMaps/map3/CHANGELOG.txt 22:45:44 <skyem123> can you give a link? 22:46:39 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 22:46:40 <Stablean> <bon> hi 22:47:10 <Stablean> <CGW> i will look for it, i've played it before its a giant map of the UK semi-realistic 22:47:15 <skyem123> Hello! 22:49:10 <Stablean> <CGW> could this be it? http://wiki.openttd.org/Scenario:United_Kingdom. sorry havent played for ages 22:49:21 <Stablean> <bon> anyone know if a single hotel is supposed to be able to bed 1000+ people at once? 22:49:23 <Stablean> <bon> :) 22:52:20 <skyem123> irl or in openttd 22:52:26 <Stablean> <bon> openttd? :) 22:53:16 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well if its a heartbreak hotel they might rent per hour *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* 22:53:47 <Stablean> <bon> you better get yourself over to Gudinghead and try rent one tiny room for yourself then :P 22:54:15 <Stablean> <bon> just upgraded my tubes to try keep up....I wonder what the max limit could be :-s 22:54:17 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i prefer Rintbridge 22:54:39 <Stablean> <bon> thats not even a hotel... only 40 beds blah? :P 22:54:42 <Stablean> <bon> heheheh 22:54:55 <skyem123> yay. London underground FTW 22:55:04 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah but they got those coin operated "massage" beds 22:55:34 <Stablean> <bon> skyem...yeah and on the next map I hope I can make up a more proper town (mail+gasoline served to it too) ... to see how far I could grow a circular tube network inside it ;) 22:56:17 <skyem123> i added extra industries in the new map. 22:57:39 <Stablean> <bon> mm is it ok to blow up a company thats pretty much doing nothing ... and would take eons to finally hit the debt limit? 22:58:15 <skyem123> is there an admin on? 22:58:35 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> it's ok with me as long as they aren't playing but i'm just a peon 22:58:49 <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher mm I was talking about jubin 22:59:01 <Stablean> <bon> the industries have long disappeared and that one truck looks silly 23:00:31 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> is there a FIRs chart on the wiki? 23:03:10 <Stablean> <bon> all I know is the list on tt-foundry.com site but it seem to be down and noone can tell what happened to it 23:03:34 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> k thanks 23:03:56 <Stablean> <bon> its (or was) the site for FIRS/HEQS 23:04:14 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> doh! 23:05:06 <skyem123> between (and including) 16 and 8. 23:05:15 <skyem123> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/LATEST/docs/html/get_started.html 23:05:26 <skyem123> (miscopy) 23:08:02 <Stablean> <bon> heh thats funny... 23:08:16 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> what is? 23:08:20 <Stablean> <bon> one industry that can't be bought anymore past 1901 ... its still sitting there stubbornly alive 23:08:30 <Stablean> <bon> first saw it in 1900 ... a bit surprised its still there now :) 23:08:53 <Taede> http://www.turbulent-t.com/stable.sav <- first go at map for this server 23:08:56 <Taede> have a look 23:09:48 <Stablean> <bon> anyway...have a few other minor things to do so will go off from here for a bit now 23:09:54 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya 23:10:08 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 23:17:44 <skyem123> well, i have to go very soon. 23:18:38 <Taede> im off to bed as well 23:18:40 <Stablean> *** paraszt joined the game 23:18:44 <Stablean> <paraszt> hi 23:18:46 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya 23:18:48 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 23:21:22 <Stablean> *** paraszt has left the game (leaving) 23:22:53 <skyem123> i need to go. goodbye! 23:23:00 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya 23:23:22 *** skyem123 has quit IRC 23:32:35 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok gotta go, cyas 23:32:47 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has left the game (leaving) 23:33:49 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe joined the game 23:52:28 *** Djanxy has joined #openttdcoop.stable 23:53:04 <Stablean> *** Sinramen joined the game 23:53:33 <Stablean> <Sinramen> did not finish yet....omg~ 23:54:23 <Stablean> <Sinramen> shit..my city 3769 23:54:39 <Stablean> <Sinramen> 3,769 people.. 23:58:24 *** Djanxy has quit IRC