Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 1st November 2013:
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00:14:21  <Stablean> *** bon joined the game
00:15:13  <Stablean> <bon> I see I paid off loan once again...heh .. talk about only needing 20 minutes to do that
00:21:37  <Stablean> <bon> meh not sure I like the way two very different trainsets are mixed
00:21:40  <Stablean> <bon> but :-s
00:22:07  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I'm not used to lots of these grfs
00:31:03  <Stablean> <bon> heh nice I knew it... the EF1 doesn't care much for slopes
00:31:10  <Stablean> <bon> guess its time to kill the old doublehead steam
00:34:59  <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher joined the game
00:35:14  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi again
00:35:32  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> hi
00:35:36  <Stablean> <bon> hi woodbutcher how're you?
00:35:50  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> good thanks you?
00:36:01  <Stablean> <bon> doing ok atm
00:36:19  <Stablean> <bon> slow night so ehh...going be on and off the keyboard ... fun :)
00:36:29  <Stablean> <bon> about to kill six steam soon tho ;)
00:43:39  <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has started a new company (#10)
00:43:48  <Stablean> <bon> heh...slashed runcost by more than half but still moving ore almost just as quickly
00:43:54  <Stablean> <bon> got to love these little EF1's :)
00:49:05  <Stablean> <bon> ughh.. 616 passengers just from one single hotel? dayumm
00:49:11  <Stablean> <bon> these things are a bit silly if you ask me heh
00:49:25  <Stablean> <bon> good thing for the above-ground tube system to remove most of these :P
00:49:52  <Stablean> <bon> heh.. 693 ... what is wrong with these things X-)
00:50:11  <Stablean> <bon> guess may as well as improve the express line too
00:50:37  <Stablean> <CGW> bon lend me some money, im poor
00:50:47  <Stablean> <bon> already deep into loan so can't sorry
00:51:05  <Stablean> <CGW> ok no problem
00:51:07  <Stablean> <bon> np
00:52:46  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol4
00:52:53  <Stablean> <bon> ?
00:53:03  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> didn't even connect my line and i'm out of cash
00:53:25  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> epic fail
00:55:31  <Stablean> <bon> meh I almost forgot the rail emu can't take mail
00:55:41  <Stablean> <bon> oh well convert overhead....for now
00:57:04  <Stablean> <bon> be back soon
00:57:14  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> k cya
01:07:36  <Stablean> <bon> back for a moment
01:11:11  <Stablean> <bon> afk again :)
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01:16:26  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol
01:16:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> what a bargain !
01:17:10  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I know sold off some track and made i tiny profit
01:17:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hehe
01:17:44  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> track costs are too high in this game
01:17:51  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah
01:22:57  <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has started a new company (#10)
01:23:53  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol
01:30:09  <Stablean> <bon> having fun woodbutching? :P
01:30:11  <Stablean> <bon> heh
01:30:22  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yep
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01:35:46  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> afk
01:35:52  <Stablean> <bon> ok
01:38:23  <Stablean> <bon> ughh looks like gasoline is a bit far...probably something for tomorrow :-s
01:38:28  <Stablean> <bon> <is going to bed soon so
01:42:23  <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has joined company #10
01:42:31  <Stablean> <bon> heh hi? ;)
01:42:46  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> back
01:44:30  <Stablean> <bon> I'm about to go in a moment tho
01:47:00  <Stablean> <bon> see you tomorrow ok woodbutcher?
01:47:04  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya
01:47:22  <Stablean> <bon> oh and don't mind if you see me with several new trains and little fund to play around with once again heh :p
01:47:36  <Stablean> <bon> just check my note....thats quite a distance anyway ;)
01:47:42  <Stablean> <bon> have fun eithr way..bye :p
01:47:52  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> bye
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03:51:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> woodbutcher
03:51:39  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yes?
03:51:42  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I saw your income from last year
03:51:48  <Stablean> <Shnupz> da fuq was that?
03:51:58  <Stablean> <Shnupz> -240K
03:52:40  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i built a lot
03:52:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> maxed out my loan
03:52:58  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I can kind of tell 0_o
03:53:08  <Stablean> <Shnupz> What did you end up making?
03:53:24  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> couple of trains/stations
03:53:34  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> nothing tremendous
03:53:40  <Stablean> <Shnupz> The ones near Plidington?
03:53:42  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> but stuff is really expensive
03:53:45  <Stablean> <Shnupz> *Pludington
03:54:03  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Is there a base price GRF active?
03:54:09  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well yeah that's my only area
03:54:17  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> not sure
03:55:11  <Stablean> *** <GriffinOneTwo> joined the game
03:55:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Mind if I join and help out woodbutcher?
03:55:39  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> joe the company vaccuum
03:56:13  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> normally I'd say sure, but I'm broke so you won't be able to do anything for awhile
03:56:19  <Stablean> <Shnupz> meh
03:56:23  <Stablean> <Shnupz> better than spectating
03:56:37  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> start your own co.
03:56:49  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I would but I'll be afk heaps
03:56:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> maybe help joe he's in better shape
03:57:14  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well Joe, what is thine response to this query?
03:57:21  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well it takes forever to generate some cash flow
03:57:25  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Sure you can help
03:57:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Awesome
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03:59:14  <Stablean> <Shnupz> So there's coal and pax trains?
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03:59:34  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Coal, Pax, and then livestock
03:59:48  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> livestock is south of the other line
03:59:54  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ah, now I see the livestock ones
03:59:56  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Thanks
04:00:16  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> i'm looking to connect the two so I can move the food
04:00:28  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Hmm
04:00:39  <Stablean> <Shnupz> That's gonna be very hilly
04:01:15  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> only up two slopes
04:01:29  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah right where the sign is
04:01:56  <Stablean> <Shnupz> You'll need a second line where the livestock is
04:02:07  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yes
04:02:22  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> rail is super expensive
04:02:40  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> so since I have minimal traffic I'm doing single rail for now
04:02:50  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Makes sense
04:03:08  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> My coal line started as single rail too
04:03:14  <Stablean> <Shnupz> HOLY SHIT 2K FOR ONE TRACK PIECE?
04:03:18  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yup
04:03:30  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> now do you understand to single track
04:03:34  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> 3 or 4 if it's on farmland
04:03:44  <Stablean> <Shnupz> :O
04:04:10  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well, I still think before connecting the coal and livestock lines
04:04:21  <Stablean> <Shnupz> we need to make the livestock one doblue wide
04:04:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> and add some more traffic
04:05:01  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> not sure what traffic to add
04:05:11  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> but I'm ok making it double...
04:05:18  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> do you want to do that now?
04:05:25  <Stablean> <Shnupz> sure
04:05:32  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'll make sure to not waste anything
04:05:47  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Damn
04:05:54  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Building along the coast is expensive
04:06:05  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I'm going to investigate further that company i bought for  and dcide if keeping it open or selling the rail is best
04:06:36  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I think I would head toward the hills
04:06:50  <Stablean> <Shnupz> and avoid the coast?
04:07:00  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> what is a coast tile cost
04:07:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> 3K
04:07:12  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but the trains will go faster
04:07:47  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> coast is fine its not that much more that flat
04:08:01  <Stablean> <Shnupz> sooo... Use the coast?
04:08:08  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yes
04:08:12  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Shit
04:08:16  <Stablean> <Shnupz> we can't
04:08:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> how will trains coming from the coal line get back onto the livestock line
04:08:39  <Stablean> <Shnupz> if it is along the coast?
04:10:21  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have an idea
04:10:23  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yes bridge where you have the sign that should work
04:10:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> it might look stupid
04:10:35  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but see it through please
04:10:57  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> stupid and cheap for now, once the income starts flowing faster we can clean it up
04:12:07  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Now there is some space for a junction
04:12:21  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Good
04:13:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> wee need to send livestock trains to the depot so I can put in signals
04:14:49  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> you should have to to build signals now
04:15:57  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> wow bridges are pretty much the same price as regular rail
04:16:43  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> can we restart the livestock
04:16:49  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yeah
04:17:03  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> done
04:17:09  <Stablean> <Shnupz> we might have to terraform 2 ocean tiles for this to work
04:17:44  <Stablean> <Shnupz> train coming from coal line have to get to the outside line somehow
04:17:54  <Stablean> <Shnupz> unless we reverse the signal directions
04:18:08  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> hmm
04:18:39  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have an idea
04:19:07  <Stablean> <Shnupz> One way path based?
04:19:21  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> if you move the southbound line inland you can create a space
04:19:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Nah watch this
04:19:30  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yes one wat path into the stations
04:20:24  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> are you reversing the directions?
04:20:30  <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah
04:22:01  <Stablean> <Shnupz> done
04:22:02  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> So just the livestock portion is reversed?
04:22:17  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yeah
04:22:35  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Line on the right is inbound
04:22:41  <Stablean> <Shnupz> left is outbound
04:23:55  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> give me a sec to add a bridge there and we can cross them back to normal
04:24:13  <Stablean> <Shnupz> WAIT
04:24:21  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Line im building is inbound
04:24:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> No need to do that
04:24:45  <Stablean> <Shnupz> shit
04:24:53  <Stablean> <Shnupz> how did I not see that
04:25:24  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> just zig it over to the connection
04:25:42  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> careful on deleting track
04:25:48  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> its expensive
04:26:06  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> to rebuils
04:26:08  <Stablean> <Shnupz> long or short bridge?
04:26:50  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ok
04:27:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Basic layout done
04:27:30  <Stablean> <Shnupz> We could actually move the inbound track under the bridge over by 1 tile
04:27:40  <Stablean> <Shnupz> allowing more flat space before the double hill up the bridge
04:28:39  <Stablean> <Shnupz> done
04:28:53  <Stablean> <Shnupz> now it has the most speed it can get
04:29:04  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah
04:29:18  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> just need to rebuild funds now
04:29:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> But that's just a matter of time
04:29:45  <Stablean> <Shnupz> We can rebuild him; We have the technology
04:29:55  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah
04:30:02  <Stablean> <Shnupz> (Insert 6million dollar man theme song here)
04:30:04  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> better, stronger, faster
04:30:22  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I'm trying to keep building cost down and come back and revisit when we have money
04:30:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> sure
04:31:03  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> afk
04:31:13  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have an amazing, cheap and efficiency increasing idea
04:31:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> oh shit, nevermind
04:31:41  <Stablean> <Shnupz> would require a sharp turn right before a hill
04:32:24  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Could work if the livestock pickup station was moved avor by one space to the right
04:32:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> *over
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04:33:13  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> We need to get this line fully connected and make a bit of money first
04:33:37  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hi
04:33:43  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Hi
04:33:45  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Hi
04:33:47  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> back
04:33:49  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
04:33:53  <Stablean> <Shnupz> wb
04:33:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thx
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04:34:22  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Looks like Fronfingburg is the only accepter of food for us right now
04:35:01  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I say connect at the top of the hill
04:35:19  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> especially if fal for a couple tiles before the join
04:35:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Done
04:35:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Signal time
04:36:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Use path signals at intersections?
04:36:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Or basic prios?
04:36:16  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> basic priors
04:36:26  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Which line gets priority?
04:36:48  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Right now Fronf to Rard
04:37:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Fronf...
04:37:09  <Stablean> <Shnupz> You mean food?
04:37:16  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Most traffic and it is coming up the hill
04:37:58  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Hang on, so the coal line is priority?
04:38:36  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Food isn't going up north yet
04:38:42  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> they don't accept it
04:38:44  <Stablean> <Shnupz> ok
04:39:50  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Look at the new junction
04:39:56  <Stablean> <Shnupz> some signs
04:40:34  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Either priority for the bridge
04:40:49  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> No give the bridge prio
04:40:55  <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah
04:41:01  <Stablean> <Shnupz> less waiting space on bridge
04:41:15  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> cause we will eventually have additional live stock coming in that direction
04:41:47  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Done
04:42:05  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Actually
04:42:13  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Look at where I just put prios
04:42:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> We could build a straight line of track there
04:42:38  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Bridge connects at the coast
04:42:45  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Would be slightly faster
04:42:55  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> mark it as a todo, but hold off for now
04:43:54  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I hate these signals its harder to tell what they are
04:44:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Agreed
04:44:03  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> indeed
04:44:05  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> nearly invisable
04:44:07  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> are breakdowns on?
04:44:10  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> no
04:44:12  <Stablean> <Shnupz> DOn't think so
04:45:22  <Stablean> <Shnupz> See the town Abernville?
04:45:32  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Where the livestock is dropped off
04:45:48  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah
04:46:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> We could take metal from the steel mill
04:46:16  <Stablean> <Shnupz> to the fabrication plant to the left of that town
04:46:54  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Metal is already going to fronfingburg's metal fab plant
04:47:20  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> then the building materials head back north
04:47:26  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yeah but Abernville is further away
04:47:32  <Stablean> <Shnupz> = more money
04:47:39  <Stablean> <Shnupz> ...Right?
04:47:49  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yes but much more money to get it connected
04:47:51  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hmmm shit ships............
04:47:57  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ships are never good
04:48:07  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Heck, helicopters are better
04:48:07  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> especially on this server
04:48:38  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Can we change our team colour?
04:48:50  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Our signs are the same as dredging sites etc
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04:49:28  <Stablean> <Shnupz> This ok?
04:49:31  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> see my signs near fronfingburg
04:49:34  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yup
04:49:40  <Stablean> <Shnupz> ah yeah
04:49:46  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I see them
04:50:18  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> can i reset my company?
04:50:37  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Start a new one mate
04:50:40  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I'm new, I don't know
04:50:46  <Stablean> <Shnupz> After deleting all your stuff
04:50:58  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Your old company will eventually die off
04:51:40  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Are you making money at all chris?
04:51:51  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> nah
04:52:05  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> bridges are expensive lol....
04:52:08  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I think we can allow the sharp turns for now and bridge closer, the sharp turns will all be downhill
04:52:10  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Just sell everyhting you own except roads
04:52:14  <Stablean> <Shnupz> then start a new company
04:52:33  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yeah downhill sharps are no problem
04:53:03  <Stablean> <Shnupz> It would be nice if we could move Fronfingburg depot to the other side though
04:53:13  <Stablean> <Shnupz> It's the perfect spot to connect the line to
04:53:27  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> i say we remove the depot completely
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04:54:24  <Stablean> <Shnupz> This work for you?
04:56:22  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ta-da
04:56:24  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> added another station track
04:57:30  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Shit, I have to go now
04:57:34  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> no prob
04:57:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'll be back in about 2 hours
04:57:42  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Good luck ! :)
04:57:42  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya
04:57:42  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> i'll prob be gone then
04:58:44  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> ok
04:59:06  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> next city connection is to the textile plant
04:59:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> actually, I'll just stay in game
04:59:16  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but be afk
05:05:03  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> lol .... too much vehicles ingame....
05:05:06  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> rly?
05:05:44  <Stablean> *** Christoph Stüwe has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.)
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05:32:06  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Are you stealing my sheep?
05:32:12  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> wool
05:32:28  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> ok
05:33:06  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i need more cars!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111
05:38:34  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Can I take the livestock from Rardinghattan?
05:38:56  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> sure why not?
05:39:07  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> cargo is free or isnt it on this server?
05:39:18  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Not sure
05:39:32  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I'm new so I thought I'd ask
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05:45:02  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
05:45:05  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hi
05:45:09  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
05:45:19  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> hi
05:53:30  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ugh
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06:14:28  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
06:14:34  <Stablean> *** Mupama has changed his/her name to Satan
06:14:34  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> moo
06:21:28  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> ouch
06:21:46  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> that was me trying to fix drive on the wrong side
06:22:10  <V453000> !rcon set max_roadveh
06:22:10  <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'max_roadveh' is: '20' (min: 0, max: 5000)
06:22:14  <V453000> !rcon set max_roadveh 150
06:22:24  <Stablean> <V453000> added more road vehicles btw
06:22:31  <Stablean> <V453000> trains are so trash that we can get away with it for once
06:22:46  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah 150 is much better thx
06:23:44  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> firs without some cars sucks
06:24:58  <Stablean> <V453000> more like without proper trains :)
06:29:45  <Stablean> <V453000> btw go admire the road tunnels :D
06:31:36  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 6
06:31:36  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
06:32:00  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh wow
06:32:08  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> he was doing good wasn't he?
06:32:14  <Stablean> <V453000> nope
06:32:37  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> didn't he have the big green network?
06:32:47  <Stablean> <V453000> ye
06:35:54  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Shnupz are you back?
06:50:57  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> joe schmue?
06:59:21  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm back
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06:59:25  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> ok
06:59:27  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> wb
06:59:29  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> wb
06:59:31  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> i'm about to leave
06:59:49  <Stablean> <Shnupz> ok
06:59:52  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Most bullshit thing happened
07:00:07  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I deliver meds to the elderly as my job
07:00:22  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Poor woman passed away, found her dead :(
07:00:27  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> :(
07:00:33  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ooh that's bad
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07:00:45  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> sorry man
07:00:51  <Stablean> <Shnupz> thanks
07:00:54  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> moin
07:02:05  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> ok I got the track back to drive on right
07:02:07  <Stablean> <Shnupz> You reversed the signal direction again?
07:02:13  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah
07:02:19  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol
07:02:21  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Now its confusing
07:02:24  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> what
07:02:28  <Stablean> <Shnupz> people drive in the left here :P
07:02:30  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> its all drive on right
07:02:56  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> well at Schmoe Inc, we drive on the right
07:03:02  <Stablean> <Shnupz> lol it's fine man
07:04:08  <Stablean> <Shnupz> afk for 5 brb
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07:06:26  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Ok, I'm out of here.  Keep the company running strong for me
07:06:32  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya
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07:09:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> back
07:10:04  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Did Joe leave? :(
07:10:10  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yep
07:10:24  <Stablean> <Satan> Satan remain..
07:10:37  <Stablean> <V453000> :0 pm returns to a game 2nd day in a row? :D celebrate!
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07:10:53  <Stablean> <Muel> hi
07:10:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
07:10:58  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hi
07:11:04  <Stablean> <Satan> i~
07:11:08  <Stablean> <Shnupz> hi
07:11:28  <Stablean> <Muel> when is my company ?
07:11:42  <Stablean> <Shnupz> goddamnit there needs to be an ability to open links from text chat
07:12:05  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> that would be nice
07:12:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Can't be bothered looking up the rules, but are you allowed to industry steal?
07:12:41  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> no
07:13:25  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> woot means "industry steal"?
07:13:32  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> Muel your company closed down for some reason
07:13:46  <Stablean> <Shnupz> When somebody is close to an already used industry
07:13:58  <Stablean> <Shnupz> EG: Coal mines makes 500tonnes per month
07:14:08  <Stablean> <Shnupz> One guy makes a huge coal route with it
07:14:18  <Stablean> <Shnupz> then some guy comes along and builds his station there
07:14:26  <Stablean> <Shnupz> lowering the amount of coal guy 1 can get
07:14:37  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> you mean my coal station?
07:14:43  <Stablean> <Shnupz> nah nah
07:14:49  <Stablean> <Shnupz>  saying you did anything
07:14:55  <Stablean> <Muel> :D it is no realy :D bcs i have best company, for i go to sleps
07:14:57  <Stablean> <Shnupz> just aksing if it is allowed in this server
07:15:09  <Stablean> *** Satan has joined company #8
07:15:12  <planetmaker> !rules
07:15:12  <Stablean> planetmaker: Rules are at
07:15:16  <planetmaker> ^^
07:15:34  <planetmaker> so stealing is rather not on
07:15:49  <Stablean> *** Satan has joined company #13
07:16:05  <Stablean> <Shnupz> You can close down skyrem transport I think
07:16:13  <Stablean> <Shnupz> He is playing on pink company now
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07:18:39  <V453000> Schnupz the wiki can be useful for you in a lot more ways than the rules, but starting with them is a good thing ;)
07:19:01  <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah I know
07:19:15  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Just seriously can;t be bothered looking up a single rule right now :P
07:19:28  <V453000> you should know all of them not a single :)
07:19:35  <Stablean> <Shnupz> shhhhhh
07:19:43  <V453000> no sh
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07:20:53  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> schnupz?
07:20:53  <planetmaker> don't mess with a vengeful admin :-P
07:20:59  <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah?
07:21:21  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> Rardinghattan farm is not connectect with you car station
07:21:33  <Stablean> <Shnupz> hmmm?
07:21:44  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Do you mean you aren't taking my sheep?
07:21:50  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Because I know that
07:21:56  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> no i do wool
07:22:11  <Stablean> <Shnupz> ah ok
07:22:17  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> Laninghall farm
07:22:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> What about it?
07:22:38  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> you dont get the sheeps from it
07:22:52  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yeah I do
07:23:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> There are livestock trucks loading there right now
07:23:12  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah but from this
07:23:35  <Stablean> <Shnupz> The truck station there is connected to the one to the left
07:23:49  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> 0% transport
07:23:55  <Stablean> <Shnupz> OH
07:23:57  <Stablean> <Shnupz> SHIT
07:24:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> NO I SEE
07:24:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> 8NOW
07:24:12  <Stablean> <Shnupz> FUCK GODDAMMNIT
07:24:18  <Stablean> <Shnupz> shhhhh
07:24:24  <Stablean> <Shnupz> admins didn;t hear that.. right?
07:24:36  <planetmaker> did you say anything?
07:24:46  <Stablean> <Shnupz> nope
07:24:53  <Stablean> <Shnupz> damn
07:25:03  <Stablean> <Shnupz> :O
07:25:05  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :D
07:25:12  <Stablean> <Shnupz> DON'T TAKE MAH SHEEP CHRIS
07:25:36  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i dont like livestock
07:25:46  <Stablean> <Shnupz> phew
07:25:56  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i will feed the farm to produce more
07:26:10  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> Win/Win
07:26:18  <Stablean> <Shnupz> hey ah chris?
07:26:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> can you remove some of the private land so I can get sheep from Redinghattan farm?
07:26:47  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I just want to extend the truck station a little
07:26:49  <V453000> !rcon kick 132
07:26:49  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** V453000 has left the game (kicked by server)
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07:27:09  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i destroyed my station there
07:27:39  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Nah I mean move the road over one tile
07:28:18  <Stablean> <Shnupz> All better :)
07:31:54  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Hey Mr/Mrs Admin
07:32:00  <V453000> ABUSE
07:32:07  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Miss?
07:32:13  <V453000> it
07:32:24  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Wait! This isn;t a rule thing
07:32:28  <V453000> :D
07:32:34  <Stablean> <Shnupz> It's a casual question
07:32:34  <V453000> kay
07:32:42  <V453000> ok go ahead and you Might not get banned for it
07:32:50  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have an awesome idea for the next non-public game
07:32:58  <V453000> oh god
07:33:10  <Stablean> <Shnupz> See the town Wrendington?
07:33:12  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> get 2cc trainset!
07:33:31  <V453000> Christoph Stüwe is banned
07:33:32  <V453000> :>
07:33:36  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> ey
07:33:51  <V453000> tyranny and censorship
07:33:53  <Stablean> <Shnupz> The Banhammer has been dropped from the heavens
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07:34:24  <Stablean> <V453000> in other words, 2cc set is severely bad, we dont use it around here unless super exceptional cases
07:34:29  <Stablean> *** Satan has changed his/her name to Mufama
07:34:41  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Anyway V453K
07:34:48  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hmmm k why it is bad?
07:34:50  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Wrendington
07:35:12  <Stablean> <V453000> because it floods the game with like 300 engines out of which only ~5 are actually useful
07:35:22  <Stablean> <V453000> and 5 isnt a nice variety
07:35:35  <planetmaker> so... what's with wrendington?
07:35:54  <Stablean> <Shnupz> So
07:35:56  <Stablean> <V453000> Wrendington doesnt quite look like a place for constructive suggestion
07:35:56  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> it's a bit remote on that island...
07:36:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> We have a 512x512 map
07:36:08  <Stablean> <V453000> no, 512x1024 but go ahead
07:36:14  <Stablean> <Shnupz> With a little island town the size of Wrendington in the centre
07:36:28  <Stablean> <Shnupz> We have to get the little island town to grow
07:36:38  <Stablean> <Shnupz> And to expand, taking over other little islands
07:36:48  <Stablean> <V453000> do that on the Public Server or even ProZone, not here
07:36:50  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Until it covers every nearby little island
07:36:52  <Stablean> <V453000> for many reasons
07:37:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> It was intended to be done on public or ProZone
07:37:12  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I said that from the start -_-
07:37:26  <Stablean> <V453000> kay
07:37:36  <Stablean> <V453000> cause non-public server is a bit unspecific? :D
07:37:48  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Outsaide of the map is a thick ring of land that can be turned into a massive mainline
07:38:02  <Stablean> <Shnupz> So it will be a challenge
07:38:09  <Stablean> <V453000> well sure prepare the map and we can see
07:38:16  <planetmaker> yeah, sounds like scenario for PS or PZ
07:38:22  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ok brb
07:38:28  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Gonna make a map :P
07:38:30  <Stablean> <V453000> PS 256x256 is enough for town growing
07:38:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> as a prototype
07:38:36  <Stablean> <V453000> you cant have 1 town cover all of 512x512
07:38:46  <Stablean> <Shnupz> We have 2 or three evenly spaced
07:39:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> so... 512x1204?
07:39:11  <Stablean> <V453000> out of the question
07:39:23  <planetmaker> 512^2 is totally sufficient
07:39:25  <Stablean> <V453000> you can cover 512x512 so brutally that no client will stay on the server
07:39:30  <planetmaker> ^
07:39:41  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Okay
07:39:51  <Stablean> <Shnupz> brb with a quick 512^ map
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07:39:59  <Stablean> <V453000> 256*512 or even 256x256 are suitable
07:40:25  <Stablean> <V453000> for mass passenger game even 512x512 is a lot, see for example psg 201
07:40:40  <Stablean> <V453000> and by a lot I mean hell of a lot :P
07:40:54  <Stablean> <V453000> psg 192 was 256x512, go see that for an example :)
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07:53:26  <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Laters, folks
07:53:30  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya
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07:57:04  <V453000> bai pm
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08:21:20  <Stablean> <Mufama> oh~ Benny nice to meet you...
08:21:30  <Stablean> <Mufama> korean... ^-^
08:21:32  <Stablean> <Benny> hello
08:21:43  <Stablean> <Benny> you're from korea? :
08:21:54  <Stablean> <Mufama> yeah......
08:22:01  <Stablean> <Benny> norway :)
08:22:12  <Stablean> <Mufama> hul~ not china?
08:22:34  <Stablean> <Mufama> oh~ same name....
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08:40:05  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> wb
08:40:11  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Damn
08:40:13  <Stablean> <Shnupz> He's gone
08:41:07  <Stablean> *** Shnupz has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.)
08:41:23  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Admin, here is the prototype:
08:41:26  <Stablean> <Shnupz>
08:41:27  <Webster> Title: CRAZY ARCHIPILEAGO CITY BUILDER (at
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08:43:37  <V453000> why dont you use something simple like dropbox :d
08:43:53  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Because I con't get dropbox to work
08:44:07  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Sorry :(
08:44:21  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I took a while because of dinner too
08:46:22  <V453000> uhmmmm the rules are a bit too long :P just put there a map and let people grow stuff, works best
08:46:32  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Okey dokey
08:46:34  <V453000> also, servicing both towns and industries might not be the best of idaes
08:46:48  <V453000> PS, when enabling magic dozer, local authority does not decrease
08:46:56  <V453000> magic dozer is well usable on public server and pro zone
08:47:02  <Stablean> <Shnupz> ?
08:47:22  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm a little confused...
08:47:32  <Stablean> <Shnupz> But does it seem like an alright idea?
08:48:04  <V453000> id suggest, just make a map
08:48:07  <V453000> and let people think of a plan
08:48:11  <V453000> you can make your own plan after all
08:48:41  <Stablean> <Shnupz> ok
08:48:52  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but still, island city building...
08:48:58  <Stablean> <Shnupz> gotta try it someday
08:49:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> :P
08:49:21  <V453000> nothing terribly special about it :)
08:50:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Plot twist, company hq is on the centre island instead of city
08:50:00  <V453000> mainly because towns need to connect with trains
08:50:28  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well, extending land is allowed
08:50:38  <Stablean> <Shnupz> if we allowed land as a bridge people would go overboard
08:50:58  <Stablean> <Shnupz> unless terraforming prices are rediculous
08:51:05  <V453000> costs dont matter
08:51:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Not in the later years
08:52:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have no idea what to do now
08:52:34  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I was just helping Joe out
08:52:46  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I don't want to mess up his plans :(
08:53:16  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah lol looks complicated your railsystem
08:53:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> not really
08:53:54  <Stablean> <Shnupz> You haven't seen complicated until you see a ProZone match
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08:55:40  <V453000> its not a "match" :-D
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08:55:57  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well yeah, it is co-op :P
08:56:04  <Stablean> *** Shnupz has started a new company (#6)
08:57:17  <V453000> welll, you could consider some of the participants challenged
08:57:18  <V453000> mainly mentally
08:57:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Challenged?
08:57:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I think you mean graced
08:57:48  <Benny> challenged? i think you mean insane
08:57:50  <Benny> case in point
08:57:59  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Gifted with the patience of a gid
08:58:01  <Stablean> <Shnupz> *god
08:58:08  <Stablean> <Shnupz> *Goomy
08:58:26  <V453000> asdf
08:59:52  <Benny> not gifted
08:59:53  <Benny> just insane
09:00:05  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I will make Fundington the town of dreams
09:00:51  <Stablean> <ROM5419> ah well...
09:00:53  <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has started a new company (#12)
09:01:09  <Stablean> <Shnupz> You could join me ROM
09:01:15  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Save some company space
09:01:17  <Stablean> <ROM5419> nah, i'll pass :D
09:10:52  <Stablean> <Shnupz> shit
09:11:02  <Stablean> <Shnupz> do bauxite mines NEED engineering supplies
09:11:08  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> no
09:11:23  <Stablean> <Shnupz> then why is my truck not filling up? :(
09:11:25  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> but if you deliver some you get a boost in production
09:11:41  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> he loads coal ......
09:11:47  <Stablean> <Shnupz> crap
09:11:50  <Stablean> <Shnupz> didn't refit
09:12:53  <Stablean> <Shnupz> much better
09:13:03  <Stablean> <Shnupz> thanks lol can't believe I didn't see that
09:13:37  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> AFK
09:17:15  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Making money slowly but surely
09:17:15  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok I'm off, cyas.  Have fun
09:17:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> cya :)
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09:28:05  <Stablean> <Shnupz> AHA
09:28:11  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm not last! :P
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09:29:42  <Stablean> <bon> mmm hi? :)
09:29:45  <Stablean> <ROM5419> hi
09:29:49  <Stablean> <Shnupz> BON!
09:29:55  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Your back!
09:29:55  <Stablean> <Shnupz> :P
09:30:17  <Stablean> <Shnupz> *you're, before the grammar nazi's attack
09:30:59  <V453000> AUSCHWITZ
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09:31:07  <Stablean> <bon> heh?
09:32:13  <Stablean> <bon> now to see about catching up about 34 years as usual
09:32:32  <Stablean> <Shnupz> You could buy me out for some more profit
09:33:03  <Stablean> <bon> no thanks
09:33:05  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Pretty sure my company is cheap
09:33:11  <Stablean> <Shnupz> :P
09:33:22  <Stablean> <bon> 1. no rails  2. on wrong island anyway
09:33:24  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
09:33:34  <Stablean> <Shnupz> No rails... yet
09:33:40  <Stablean> <Shnupz> DUN DUN DUN DUN!
09:35:13  <V453000> no rails makes no sense
09:35:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well
09:35:35  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have nestled into Fundington
09:35:45  <Stablean> <Shnupz> No space for any major rails here
09:35:51  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'll wait till I have enough money
09:35:57  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Then start big
09:36:56  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Actually, I'm hoping JoeSchmoe buys me out
09:37:06  <Stablean> <bon> and what the hell is joe doing with so many signposts?
09:37:08  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Then I can connect to his rail network
09:37:22  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Me and Joe were working tegother ealier
09:37:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> We had signposts to show each other what we wanted to build
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09:38:10  <Stablean> <Shnupz> damn
09:38:17  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Can't buy my own company :P
09:38:23  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I think it is too young
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09:39:37  <Stablean> <Shnupz> how old does a company have to be to buy it?
09:39:53  <Stablean> <bon> you can't unless its deep in debt
09:40:03  <Stablean> <Shnupz> shit
09:40:19  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm making too much money :P
09:40:25  <Stablean> <bon> I doubt it
09:40:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Nope
09:40:41  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Making quite a lot for trucks only
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09:41:13  <Stablean> <Shnupz> look at company league table
09:41:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Shnupz transport is 9th
09:42:38  <Stablean> <bon> mmm going have change company name soon but heh :)
09:45:20  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Chris
09:45:24  <Stablean> <bon> mm?
09:45:42  <Stablean> <Shnupz> no no, the Christoph guy
09:45:48  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Playing on Orange
09:49:39  <Stablean> <bon> mm these little garratts were nice but now killing them off for new electrics ^_^
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09:50:33  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> re
09:51:07  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> sup
09:51:19  <Stablean> <ROM5419> no money
09:51:27  <Stablean> <ROM5419> off for the day (
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09:51:42  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> shnupz?
09:51:56  <Stablean> <Shnupz> was afk sorry
09:52:02  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> you asked for me?
09:52:02  <Stablean> <Shnupz> hmm?
09:52:04  <Stablean> <Shnupz> oh
09:52:10  <Stablean> <Shnupz> doesn't matter now
09:52:22  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I was going to ask you to remove a single piece of road
09:52:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Buut I ended up building a little bridge over it
09:55:18  <Stablean> <bon> heh these articulated coaches are nice to have while they last
09:55:52  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I have so much bauxite it's pourin' out me ass
09:56:06  <Stablean> <bon> 99 isn't a lot
09:56:08  <Stablean> <bon> lack of service maybe
09:56:08  <Stablean> <bon> :)
09:56:26  <Stablean> <Shnupz> :P
09:56:28  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah 500 would be a lot for a single station
09:56:38  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but for trucks
09:56:44  <Stablean> <Shnupz> at 1956
09:56:47  <Stablean> <Shnupz> *65
09:56:49  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> nah its not that much
09:56:52  <Stablean> <Shnupz> shhhhhhh
09:57:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I can dream
09:57:11  <Stablean> <bon> agreed chris
09:57:21  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> you can have the hereford articulated with 60 tons of goods...
09:57:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> hmmm
09:57:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but lower speed
09:57:35  <Stablean> <Shnupz> is it worth?
09:58:05  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> who cares about speed with trucks?
09:58:11  <Stablean> <Shnupz> good point
09:58:45  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i played a lot of maps with trucks.
09:59:00  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> and this 60 tons are awsome
09:59:01  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Flatbed or hopper?
09:59:12  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Same everything except reliability
09:59:17  <Stablean> <Shnupz> does it matter?
09:59:32  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> for bauxit?
09:59:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah
09:59:40  <Stablean> <bon> heh seem like I've pretty much reduced my train list by three
09:59:43  <Stablean> <bon> got to love progress
09:59:57  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i like the hopper
10:00:07  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well then, hopper it is
10:00:31  <Stablean> <bon> now for that one last section of steam leftovers
10:01:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> why are my trucks not auto replacing...?
10:01:39  <Stablean> <Shnupz> shouldn't they head off to the depot?
10:01:45  <Stablean> <Shnupz> and do it themselves?
10:02:00  <Stablean> <bon> do you have autoreplace running now?
10:02:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah
10:02:24  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I've selected "Start replacing Vehicles"
10:02:34  <Stablean> <bon> well one truck is already looking for a shed
10:02:36  <Stablean> <bon> so I dunno
10:02:38  <Stablean> <bon> :)
10:02:49  <Stablean> <Shnupz> nothing is happening...
10:03:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> aww crap
10:03:10  <Stablean> <Shnupz> says there's a money limit on autorenew...?
10:03:20  <Stablean> <Shnupz> does that mean I have too little or too much?
10:03:22  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah
10:03:25  <Stablean> <bon> no clue...your own settings
10:03:27  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> too little
10:03:30  <Stablean> <bon> mine is pretty much at 0
10:03:36  <Stablean> <bon> (its a clientside thing..not server fyi)
10:03:47  <Stablean> <Shnupz> thanks
10:03:53  <Stablean> <Shnupz> now it is working :)
10:04:33  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Are ships useful on this server?
10:04:35  <Stablean> <bon> meh going scrap this quarry route..its in the way of a different long distance route I want
10:04:50  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> no shnupz look @refit goods...
10:04:53  <Stablean> <bon> shnupz...not as that much because the water body is for a separate players more or less
10:05:11  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Well, do they at least make a profit?
10:05:21  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> you cant refit the ships to the goods you will transport
10:05:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Unlike *coughsingleplayercough*
10:05:33  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> shipz always do profit!
10:05:43  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I know you can't refit them
10:05:45  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> every two years once ...
10:05:48  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I want them for passengers
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10:09:24  <Stablean> <bon> heh earned close to 16 thousands from that salvage :->
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10:12:06  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> woots going on?
10:13:08  <Stablean> <bon> there...finally have new company name now that steam's gone :)
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10:14:24  <Stablean> <Shnupz> hello again
10:15:39  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> wb
10:16:09  <Stablean> <bon> meh why is someone using several passenger locomotives for heavy freight -_-
10:16:23  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> couse they are fast? xD.....
10:16:41  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Cause they look badass and somebody has no idea what they are doing
10:18:15  <Stablean> <bon> also he's umm...well lets just say I don't think you're supposed to do a water block line like that
10:18:23  <Stablean> <Shnupz> ?
10:18:26  <Stablean> <Shnupz> tell me where
10:18:40  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i saw that too
10:18:42  <Stablean> <bon> theres two but I'll sign one...
10:18:56  <Stablean> <bon> '!here' marks it
10:19:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> 0_o
10:19:16  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Id that raised land?
10:19:28  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Or a badass bridge?
10:19:45  <Stablean> <bon> seem like a blockage to me aside to jumping islands when he could have just stayed on one
10:19:47  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i asked me the same
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10:20:14  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> do you MUST stay on one island?
10:20:32  <Stablean> <bon> chris...not that explictly but seriously..jumping three islands when coal+steemill can be found on one island know?
10:21:10  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i would be happy if i had some ressources i need on my island... OR the next.......
10:22:29  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah awsome train
10:22:35  <Stablean> <bon> well if you hadn't picked an island that was already well-used by other players that might had been less of a problem but ehh
10:22:51  <Benny> !rules
10:22:51  <Stablean> Benny: Rules are at
10:23:13  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> thats not the point... i need to boost my textill mill ... but ther is NOTHING near me...
10:24:40  <Stablean> <bon> you need to get farm supplies going then you'll be complaining you have too much goods to try move ;)
10:24:43  <Stablean> <bon> thats why
10:25:05  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i am already got all farm goods that i produce to my farms.
10:25:59  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> there are only two possible farm good productions and i already use that...
10:26:30  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i can just boost two farms with that.......
10:26:40  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> couse there are no chemicals near me....
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10:28:07  <Stablean> <bon> well i still see a lot of raw wool taps on that island but mm
10:28:21  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> am i blind?!
10:28:47  <Stablean> *** Campi has started a new company (#14)
10:30:43  <Stablean> <bon> hi campi
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10:30:59  <Stablean> <Shnupz> goddamn Aussie internet
10:31:01  <Stablean> <bon> heh
10:31:04  <Stablean> <Campi> hi all
10:31:12  <Stablean> <Shnupz> herro
10:31:22  <Stablean> <Shnupz> campi
10:31:32  <Stablean> <Shnupz> might as well join me, I am making money
10:31:38  <Stablean> <Campi> '
10:31:48  <Stablean> <Shnupz> And I'll be gone in a little while
10:31:58  <Stablean> <Shnupz> you can do what you want with the company then
10:32:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> heck, do wehat you want now
10:34:52  <Stablean> <bon> hmmm can one of you help me with removing a single road tile?
10:35:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah
10:35:14  <Stablean> <bon> see sign :)
10:35:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm guessing the town hates you
10:35:36  <Stablean> <bon> thanks :P
10:35:39  <Stablean> <Shnupz> np
10:35:41  <Stablean> <bon> ya
10:35:44  <Stablean> <bon> no pax service to it anyway
10:35:48  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Planting trees makes towns love you
10:35:59  <Stablean> <bon> except theres already trees ;)
10:36:05  <Stablean> <Shnupz> delete some if there are some
10:36:09  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah thats the problem on this map
10:36:20  <Stablean> <Shnupz> the town won't care if you delete trees
10:36:22  <Stablean> <bon> chris...well its not a problem unless you're tight on space
10:36:25  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> that works shnupz?
10:36:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but will worship you if you plant them :)
10:36:33  <Stablean> <bon> shnup..they do..why do they hate you in first place duh?
10:36:43  <Stablean> <bon> removing trees actually makes it more worser
10:36:45  <Stablean> <bon> heheh
10:36:51  <Stablean> <Shnupz> They hate you for levelling land
10:36:54  <Stablean> <bon> not really
10:37:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> yup
10:37:02  <Stablean> <bon> removing a tree still drops the rating even if its empty tile
10:37:10  <Stablean> <Shnupz> destroying road and buildings + editing land
10:37:17  <Stablean> <Shnupz> is the worst
10:37:32  <Stablean> <bon> nah..I've done several road removals without much rating drop
10:37:38  <Stablean> <bon> its the tree/house that does it
10:37:49  <Stablean> <bon> (especially stadiums or office towers too)
10:37:52  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Maybe I'm playing with the wrong GRF's :D
10:37:58  <Stablean> <bon> theres no grf
10:38:04  <Stablean> <Shnupz> not here
10:38:07  <Stablean> <Shnupz> on single player
10:38:13  <Stablean> <bon> its the base thing
10:38:21  <Stablean> <bon> if a grf is causing rating change then its some weird hack
10:38:39  <Stablean> <bon> but like I said... its tree and house removals that does cause rating drop simple as it
10:38:43  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
10:38:57  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> AND therraforming...
10:39:11  <Stablean> <bon> well terraform removes the tree so what did you expect?
10:39:21  <Stablean> <bon> if you terraform on grassy land the town actually doesn't care
10:39:27  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> its just about the fucking trees?
10:39:31  <Stablean> <bon> aye
10:39:37  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> lol
10:39:47  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Ugh
10:39:53  <Stablean> <bon> anyway..need lay more tracks already
10:39:55  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I need to start up some trains
10:39:57  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but there is no room
10:40:49  <Stablean> <bon> shnupz...go to eg Flanfield
10:40:55  <Stablean> <bon> noone has even touched that island yet
10:41:13  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'm working on building up Fundignton
10:41:16  <Stablean> <bon> ok
10:41:23  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Challenging myself to stick to one little town
10:41:30  <Stablean> <bon> :p
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10:44:14  <Stablean> <Shnupz> First train to Fundington :P
10:48:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> look at that sexy rail line
10:48:39  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> snupz can you pls dont block@aluminium factory?
10:48:49  <Stablean> <Shnupz> fine fine
10:48:55  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but Joe will be pissed :P
10:49:09  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> just want to build a road...
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10:49:39  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> thx
10:49:47  <Stablean> <V453000> hell
10:49:50  <Stablean> <Shnupz> dunno why I didn't think of that
10:49:56  <Stablean> <Shnupz> hell...o?
10:49:59  <Stablean> <bon> hi v453000 .. just scrapped two short routes and merging long routes now finally
10:50:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> or just plain hell?
10:50:08  <Stablean> <bon> also went all-electric a few years ago too :)
10:50:14  <Stablean> <V453000> both Shnupz
10:50:30  <Stablean> <Shnupz> :( whats wrong?
10:50:36  <Stablean> <V453000> nothing (:
10:50:43  <Stablean> <Shnupz> yay :)
10:50:50  <Stablean> <V453000> look, my first word when I come is generally nonsense
10:50:54  <Stablean> <V453000> you will get used to that :D
10:50:56  <Stablean> <bon> heh :P
10:52:48  <Stablean> <Shnupz> frickin ships getting lost
10:53:18  <Stablean> <Shnupz> V453K
10:53:24  <Stablean> <V453000> wat
10:53:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I told you fundington will be a town of dreams
10:53:33  <Stablean> <V453000> also quit shortening my name, ty
10:53:35  <Stablean> <Shnupz> look at my baby grow
10:53:43  <Stablean> <V453000> pressing tab will autocomplete it
10:53:58  <Stablean> <Shnupz> V453000:  :O AMZING
10:54:02  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
10:54:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Gotta use tab more often
10:54:16  <Stablean> <bon> <only uses tab for window switching
10:54:18  <Stablean> <bon> ^_^
10:54:37  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Windows key + tab > alt + tab
10:55:08  <Stablean> <Shnupz> you all just tried windows key + tab... right?
10:55:27  <Benny> no, i dont use aero ;)
10:55:35  <Stablean> <bon> <doesn't even have windows anyway
10:55:41  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I don't either :D
10:55:55  <Stablean> <Shnupz> About aero, not windows
10:56:01  <Stablean> <bon> :)
10:56:07  <Stablean> <Shnupz> once linux gets good driver support, I
10:56:21  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'll switch over to the good side :)
10:56:25  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i have a station and two factories near that station can i say too which factory the cargo should go?!
10:56:28  <Stablean> <bon> shnupz..its only winmodem cards or certain new video chips that doesn't have much support
10:56:34  <Stablean> <bon> but everything else pretty much works for most part
10:56:38  <Stablean> <bon> chris...mind sign it?
10:56:50  <Stablean> <V453000> after adobe things work well on linux, I will still not switch to penguins :P
10:56:52  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> "sign"
10:57:04  <Stablean> <Shnupz> eh, once steambox comes out there'll be full support anyway
10:57:14  <Stablean> <bon> chris...oh you want drop chemicals off right?
10:57:16  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I'll switch then
10:57:18  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah
10:57:29  <Benny> linux is too much of a hassle
10:57:31  <Stablean> <bon> chris...well errr....move platform over ... thats the only thing I know what to say sorry
10:57:49  <Stablean> <Benny> oh lol im still ingame
10:57:51  <Stablean> <bon> benny...I'm not paying $$$ just to run an os that could be had elsewhere for only $ so.... mm yeah to our own picks
10:57:53  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Benny, depends on what OS you want
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10:58:01  <Benny> me neither ;)
10:58:06  <Benny> i pirate windows and i dont feel bad about it
10:58:09  <Stablean> <bon> and beside I don't care for new rpg/whatever games that many windows users gets
10:58:15  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Stuff like Ubuntu is easy to install/get
10:58:17  <Stablean> <bon> so that means windows has nothing over nix
10:58:25  <Stablean> <Shnupz> But apparently isn't as awesome as the more techy stuff
10:58:28  <Benny> linux has always been a hassle to use
10:58:37  <Stablean> <bon> shnupz... ubuntu is kinda the bloated one tbh
10:58:40  <Benny> driver issues, software not avaiable on it, this doesnt work etc
10:58:47  <Stablean> <bon> I never understand why so many people want to go after it first
10:58:57  <Stablean> <bon> benny...use a decent cd and you'll see most things working
10:59:03  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Bon, honestly, which linux OS is best for gaming and general purpose?
10:59:08  <Benny> debian
10:59:11  <Stablean> <bon> thats lean
10:59:25  <Stablean> <Shnupz> ummmm... examples?
10:59:35  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I wanna write this down for later :P
10:59:37  <Stablean> <bon> and doesn't have ad-related or try-replace-something-major problems .. as buntu seem to often fall for both
11:00:03  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I was never going to get ubuntu in the first place 0_o
11:00:09  <Stablean> <bon> but anyway chris..I have no idea how the "pick between two industries" thing may have to find andy to ask him about that
11:00:15  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I was just saying that it's easy to install
11:01:54  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i had to Bribe prenhattan two times now..........
11:02:11  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> lost over 2,5millions...
11:02:33  <Stablean> <bon> eh? I don't see 2.5m in your finances unless its from <1967? :)
11:03:01  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah 1967 once and 1969 ....
11:03:25  <Stablean> <bon> well 1969 only shows 600 thousands but mm yeah thats why you have to watch trees when building non-pax stations near town zones
11:03:51  <Stablean> <bon> which of I wonder where planetmaker could be
11:04:02  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> ah yeah i play with EUR
11:04:13  <Stablean> <bon> oh mm ok
11:04:23  <Stablean> <bon> whats the gbp-eur rate hmm...
11:04:33  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Chris, please look at my new signs
11:04:33  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> not 1:2
11:04:43  <Stablean> <bon> meh eur is disabled as its too early yet
11:04:46  <Stablean> <bon> oh well
11:05:08  <Stablean> <bon> chris btw tell me.. what number do you see for 'Other' expenses in 1969?
11:05:22  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> 1.326674
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11:05:43  <Stablean> <bon> 1,326,674 ... mmm its showing 663,337 here
11:05:53  <Stablean> <bon> so it indeed does look like 2:1
11:06:24  <Stablean> <bon> so i guess basically we have to halve or double the numbers between each others till euro gets passed as official currency :)
11:06:46  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i bribed them the third time but nothing happens...
11:07:21  <Benny> dont bribe
11:07:29  <Benny> delete all trees in and around a city
11:07:32  <Benny> build trees
11:07:33  <Benny> delete again
11:07:34  <Benny> repeat
11:07:49  <Stablean> <V453000> honestly the currency feature is cute, but one of the most confusing/causing problematic communication features in openttd
11:08:03  <Stablean> <bon> v453000 I don't find it 'cute' .. I find it proper when matching with traingrfs
11:08:09  <Stablean> <bon> but ehh
11:08:21  <Stablean> <V453000> wtf?
11:08:31  <Stablean> <V453000> how is currency relevant to train sets at all
11:08:41  <Stablean> <bon> ukrs = pounds ... dbsetxl = dem .. etc
11:08:48  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> lol... works... thx....
11:08:58  <Stablean> <bon> chris...heh have fun with the chemicals there anyway
11:09:00  <Stablean> <V453000> that is only sets are retardedly named after countries because authors have no original idea
11:09:06  <Stablean> <bon> I'm about to make a new chemical route anyway
11:09:08  <Stablean> <V453000> what currency does nuts have then
11:09:22  <Stablean> <V453000> or tropic refurbishment set
11:09:28  <Stablean> <V453000> or hover vehicles
11:09:38  <Stablean> <bon> tropic is partial to africa so....there
11:09:38  <Stablean> <V453000> or original trains :)
11:09:42  <Stablean> <bon> original was always uk
11:09:45  <Stablean> <V453000> africa isnt currency
11:09:55  <Stablean> <bon> well look up what africa uses then
11:10:05  <Stablean> <V453000> like X different currencies?
11:10:11  <Stablean> <V453000> stones, sand, slaves
11:10:13  <Stablean> <bon> thats not currency
11:10:16  <Benny> V453000: UKRS and DBset are based on real life vehicles
11:10:18  <Benny> NUTS definitely isnt
11:10:27  <Stablean> <V453000> which is exactly why they are retarded Benny
11:10:41  <Benny> people play this game for realism too, important thing to note
11:10:46  <Benny> i used to do that
11:10:49  <Stablean> <V453000> retarded people, yes
11:10:51  <Stablean> <bon> benny agreed
11:11:01  <Benny> V453000: did you wake up on the angry foot today? :P
11:11:03  <Stablean> <bon> thats why I love being able to have short trains finally thanks to FIRS again :)
11:11:21  <Stablean> <V453000> that people go and murder each other happens too
11:11:23  <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt mean it is good
11:11:45  <Stablean> <V453000> no thats my general attitude towards realistic idiocy Benny
11:11:51  <Stablean> <V453000> both feet :)
11:12:01  <Benny> lol
11:12:03  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> new chemicals?
11:12:21  <Stablean> <bon> not new chemical... new chemical *route*
11:12:21  <Stablean> <bon> :)
11:12:37  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> where?
11:12:44  <Stablean> <bon> from my only refinery ofc
11:12:58  <Stablean> <V453000> you just cant play the game "realistically" ... all I get it is is making limits for yourself for no reasons
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11:13:04  <Stablean> <bon> its not limits
11:13:38  <Stablean> <V453000> well then why dont you build more smaller trains without firs :)
11:13:56  <Stablean> <bon> if you can make a grf (or patch ottd) to stop borked productions...then sure
11:14:15  <Stablean> <V453000> define borked productions
11:14:33  <Stablean> <V453000> default certainly isnt borked, and is best by far
11:15:00  <Benny> V453000: maybe you think of these limits as limits, but others clearly dont ;)
11:15:02  <Stablean> <bon> is there any need to? expecting a 86 tonnes train with stupid-american-like-production rate isn't really reasonable
11:15:21  <Stablean> <V453000> why not?
11:15:31  <Stablean> <V453000> you just build more trains?
11:15:33  <Stablean> <bon> nope
11:15:39  <Stablean> <V453000> the whole point is that you cant "win" the game
11:15:49  <Stablean> <V453000> you always have motivation to build more, add things, make your network better
11:15:51  <Stablean> <bon> who said anything about winning?
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11:16:22  <Stablean> <V453000> more about motivation to play
11:16:32  <Stablean> <bon> I'm already having too much fun here
11:16:38  <Stablean> <bon> so I dunno what you're trying to imply
11:16:50  <Stablean> <bon> hi skyem finally :)
11:17:25  <Stablean> <V453000> well, capping industry production at low values doesnt quite give much fun into the later stages of the game, you are quickly "done" as your traffic throughput is sufficient, or you have to connect more primaries which is boring and tedious
11:17:34  <Stablean> <bon> thats not really true
11:17:40  <Stablean> <V453000> isnt it
11:17:42  <Stablean> <V453000> which part of it isnt
11:17:54  <Stablean> <bon> if you think so then you're not even fully utilizing it at all
11:18:20  <Stablean> <V453000> is using primaries to 100% full utilization?
11:18:38  <Stablean> <bon> if its at quad production and you have more than one of that...maybe
11:18:50  <skyem123> HOLY! 16 tile long train!
11:19:08  <Stablean> <bon> skyem....but not to mention the dumb water-blocking lines too
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11:19:10  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont know what are you talking about
11:19:10  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
11:19:20  <Stablean> <Shnupz> got so caught up in single player I forgot to re join
11:19:50  <Stablean> <Shnupz> FUNDINGTON HAS GROWN
11:20:05  <Stablean> <Shnupz> LORD GOOMY HAS BLESSED US! :D
11:20:08  <skyem123> do people want to lynch me?
11:20:14  <Stablean> <bon> skyem heh no :)
11:20:14  <Stablean> <V453000> point is if industries stop growing, you have no reason to grow your network all the time
11:20:16  <Stablean> <bon> was wondering where you were :)
11:20:19  <Stablean> <Shnupz> oh hi Skyem
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11:20:35  <Stablean> <bon> v453000 if you've already made them run at quad production and you have more than one of it then....maybe you do have a point
11:20:53  <Stablean> <V453000> what?
11:20:59  <Stablean> <V453000> how is that related at all
11:21:13  <Stablean> <V453000> im not talking about total amount but about differences and growth
11:21:16  <Stablean> <bon> because if its not at quad production then its not utilized as much as it could be
11:21:34  <Stablean> <V453000> so "utilizing grf mechanism" is defined by number of cargo you transport?
11:21:38  <Stablean> <V453000> that makes zero sense
11:23:00  <Stablean> <V453000> that is about the same as if you said "the more cargo wagons can carry, the better the train set"
11:23:18  <Stablean> <bon> only if you're liking silly high productions
11:23:24  <Stablean> <V453000> irrelevant
11:23:34  <Stablean> <V453000> entirely
11:23:48  <Stablean> <bon> nope its related..I'm happy with the 10 ton mineral cars only since the industry matches that anyway
11:23:51  <Stablean> <V453000> that is one value, not mechanism
11:24:14  <Stablean> <V453000> so you think that adding trains is bad
11:24:25  <Stablean> <V453000> soo why play the game in the first place
11:24:39  <Stablean> <V453000> more production, more trains, more building
11:24:39  <Stablean> <bon> because ukrs never ran massive 50-cars trains daily unlike usa/etc
11:24:49  <Stablean> <V453000> who cares?
11:25:11  <Stablean> <V453000> this is a game
11:25:21  <Stablean> <bon> and its a train grf game
11:25:31  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> dont say that V453000 i am losing my illusions!
11:25:33  <Stablean> <V453000> it is a logical game unrelated to real trains, yes
11:25:43  <Stablean> <bon> umm you got that backward
11:25:45  <Benny> i think its important to note here that V453000 is the mastermind behind a 5000 train network on a 512x512 map, and that bon seems to be interested in real life trains and rail networks
11:25:49  <Stablean> <bon> it was always a transport game from the start
11:25:59  <Stablean> <V453000> nope
11:26:09  <Stablean> <V453000> transport game doesnt mean it is related to simulation
11:26:11  <Stablean> <bon> no then what does the 'TT' stand for?
11:26:17  <Stablean> <V453000> name?
11:26:23  <Stablean> <bon> Transport Tycoon
11:26:39  <Stablean> <V453000> is a singer SmartNigger9000 automatically smart?
11:26:49  <Stablean> <V453000> same logic
11:26:59  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, you transport things in the game. Good catch
11:27:07  <skyem123> in 1980 i will see if there is a class 315
11:27:14  <skyem123> (i hope there is)
11:27:21  <Stablean> <V453000> but TT/TTD/OpenTTD are logic games which allow extreme amount of research on building train networks
11:27:35  <Stablean> <V453000> which is what makes it so much fun, and mainly so much fun for the long term
11:27:49  <Stablean> <V453000> as opposed to other train simulator games
11:27:55  <Stablean> <bon> skyem... 315? did you meant 313 or something else?
11:28:05  <Stablean> <bon> v453000 you're clearly not understanding genres so never mind we talked at all
11:28:14  <Benny> you're both wrong
11:28:19  <Benny> its up to yourself how you want to play the game
11:28:26  <Benny> one cannot dictate how others are supposed to enjoy it
11:28:47  <Stablean> <V453000> sure I am just saying playing it "realistically" is only setting stupid limits like "ukrs used long trains so yeah" which do not make any sense at all
11:28:57  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i can dictate, i am from germany!
11:28:57  <Stablean> <V453000> I can probably not prevent people from playing dumb
11:28:59  <Stablean> <bon> its not a limit
11:29:02  <Stablean> <V453000> it is a limit
11:29:05  <Stablean> <bon> its not
11:29:11  <Stablean> <V453000> it is a rule = it is a limit
11:29:13  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i am the great dictator!
11:29:15  <Stablean> <V453000> your choices are not free
11:29:25  <Stablean> <bon> then why do I have no limit? my trains aren't being starved or anything
11:29:27  <Stablean> <V453000> using logical thinking you could use 1-64 tile trains
11:29:29  <Stablean> <bon> so its not even a limit
11:29:56  <Stablean> <V453000> after considering key aspects of openttd gameplay you would probably to go for 3-5 tile trains
11:30:06  <Stablean> <V453000> irrelevant which country used what
11:30:20  <Stablean> <V453000> but no, realistic nonsense Orders X
11:30:23  <Stablean> <V453000> obey, good job
11:30:25  <Stablean> <bon> actually no..if this was running canset or nars instead I would had built 8-tile platforms by default
11:30:28  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
11:30:35  <Stablean> <V453000> see, same thing
11:30:38  <Stablean> <V453000> zero logic
11:30:44  <Stablean> <bon> nope..its logical
11:30:50  <Stablean> <V453000> logical with what
11:31:00  <Stablean> <bon> since the heavy haul diesels can take that much cargo worth 200+ tonnes in an easy trip
11:31:06  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> my ass is logical!
11:31:17  <Stablean> <bon> heh don't bother quoting anything from Spaceballs pls :)
11:31:44  <Stablean> <bon> skyem... wiki shows a BREL Class 313 due in 1976 otheriwse I can't see a 315 anywhere
11:32:36  <skyem123> aww
11:32:43  <Stablean> <bon> mm?
11:32:53  <Stablean> <V453000> of course but that doesnt justify 8
11:33:03  <Stablean> <bon> well it does
11:33:08  <skyem123> irl 315 comes out in 1980/1981
11:33:23  <Stablean> <V453000> can as well be 16
11:33:24  <Benny> depends on what acceleration one finds sufficient
11:33:27  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...heh ukrs2 doesn't have "everything" as that would had been too many similar things
11:33:29  <Stablean> <V453000> with everything double
11:33:37  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> ah all this trains are real?
11:33:39  <Stablean> <V453000> plus that Benny
11:33:47  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> they all looks ugly...
11:33:53  <Stablean> <V453000> XD
11:33:55  <Stablean> <bon> benny....with two 3800hp diesel-electric locomotives its too easy to accelerate even a 400 tonnes train up to 90kph in a few tiles
11:34:02  <Stablean> <V453000> SO bon?
11:34:08  <Stablean> <V453000> how does that say "build 8 tile trains"
11:34:11  <Stablean> <V453000> or whatever length
11:34:15  <Stablean> <bon> chris...yeah ukrs2 is uk after all eh?
11:34:21  <Stablean> <V453000> you can as well double everything and make them twice as long?
11:34:56  <Stablean> <bon> least thanks for adding the ukrs2-addon to here because there are a few particular locomotives I really like
11:35:06  <Stablean> <bon> not to mention all the EM1 electrics I'm running now
11:35:31  <skyem123> your welcome! :-)
11:35:46  <Stablean> <V453000> but dont add those tracks again, the signals are beyond awful
11:36:56  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...I just have to wait till 1993 to get something worthy replacing the EM1 with :P
11:37:06  <Stablean> <bon> Class 92 aka fast freights under overhead wire
11:37:08  <Stablean> <bon> :)
11:37:30  <skyem123> wow
11:37:32  <Stablean> <V453000> because according to realistic rules a train set can have better structure so you wouldnt have to wait :P
11:37:34  <Stablean> <V453000> win win
11:38:13  <Stablean> <bon> skyem..mind you the 92 was really meant as an express container locomotive in real-life but for the sake of ottd its been simplified to just haul anything instead
11:38:55  <Stablean> <V453000> how terrible :)
11:39:00  <skyem123> technically you could pull anything with any engine irl. (with a bit of thinking)
11:39:07  <Stablean> <V453000> XD
11:39:07  <Stablean> <V453000> haha
11:39:29  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> downhill?!
11:39:32  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...well the point was a locomotive that only took container cars alone would kinda be a bit hard to implent...
11:39:50  <Stablean> <V453000> not really
11:39:53  <Stablean> <bon> so the locomotive can take anything including mgr hopper cars ingame anyway
11:40:03  <Stablean> <V453000> it would be trivial to implement
11:40:41  <Stablean> <bon> skyem mind you the 92 can also run on 3rd rail with slight reduced performance too .. its one of the few dual-voltage locomotives aye
11:40:42  <skyem123> try and attach anything other than a tube carriage to a London underground train
11:40:53  <Stablean> <bon> (probably best in a ISR2 game where shared tracks are a requism)
11:41:28  <Stablean> <V453000> isr2?
11:41:55  <Stablean> <bon> infrastructure sharing ... it kinda makes certain grf things make more sense
11:42:35  <skyem123> i wish i could compile openttd (My pc CANNOT compile ANYTHING)
11:42:46  <skyem123> (I broke my pc...)
11:42:53  <Stablean> <V453000> sure, the feature which is solved just by playing in 1 company
11:42:56  <Stablean> <V453000> also excellent effort
11:42:59  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...ah :-s
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11:43:24  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> wb
11:43:41  <Benny> v453000: separate economy, shared tracks is the goal with that patch i think
11:43:48  <Stablean> <bon> skyem well you know how it is eg when one company has some rails with little traffic and other company could use adding a new route that partially shares some guess what a problem could be if one was 3rd rail and other was overhead? so thats where dual-voltage trains actually make sense
11:43:54  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> thanks
11:44:00  <Stablean> <V453000> of course but how is that an advantage Benny
11:44:07  <Benny> V453000: it isnt
11:44:14  <skyem123> AND dual voltage track
11:44:18  <Stablean> <V453000> company X can jam your network just because you gave access? but you cant do a thing abuot it
11:44:20  <Stablean> <V453000> excellent XD
11:44:34  <Benny> lol
11:44:44  <skyem123> it is meant for games like this
11:44:46  <Stablean> <V453000> thats the whole difference really
11:44:54  <Stablean> <V453000> play in 1 company if you mean to cooperate?
11:45:10  <Stablean> <V453000> has only advantages
11:45:24  <Stablean> <V453000> you need to trust the other person anyway
11:45:29  <skyem123> where companies don't hate each other BUT there is some competition
11:45:30  <Stablean> <V453000> so why limit things
11:45:46  <Benny> well you're a total min-maxer V453000 so you wouldn't understand :P
11:45:48  <Stablean> <V453000> there cant be competition if I can jam your tracks at any point
11:46:19  <Stablean> <V453000> I didnt yet hear an argument why is sharing infrastructure better tha nplayign in 1 company
11:46:41  <Stablean> <V453000> so yeah I wouldnt understand in such case
11:46:47  <skyem123> ...
11:46:47  <Benny> its not about better tbh. never liked the idea of the patch personally but i can see why people would find it interesting to share tracks amongst eachother
11:46:57  * skyem123 is going mad
11:47:29  <Stablean> <V453000> I played with it too, twice
11:47:31  <Stablean> <bon> benny...yeah I've loved it
11:47:39  <Stablean> <V453000> but you share tracks when you are in your company
11:47:41  <Stablean> <V453000> or dont you :)
11:47:49  <Stablean> <bon> but since I can't find much people to play together with...well....I'm still waiting :-s
11:47:55  <Stablean> <V453000> including that if one of you is gone, it doesnt mean the jam on his side is untouchable
11:48:17  <Stablean> <V453000> after all you can make an agreement not to touch the rails the other person built
11:48:21  <Stablean> <V453000> easy to identify with e.g. purr
11:48:24  <Stablean> <bon> I actually made a game once where one company only did tracks alone and other company was the one running all trains .. that was a bit of a fun day
11:48:36  <Stablean> <V453000> also cutely pointless
11:48:42  <Stablean> <bon> not pointless
11:48:46  <Benny> bon: thats how the rail system in norway is ran!
11:48:52  <Benny> probably elsewhere too
11:49:09  <Stablean> <bon> benny...yeah the EU rules mandatory that rail and trains are separated as soon as possible
11:49:12  <Stablean> <bon> something to that line anyway
11:49:20  <Benny> oh
11:49:23  <Stablean> <bon> some countries still are not complying so well like eg france
11:49:29  <Stablean> <V453000> LOL
11:49:33  <Stablean> <bon> SNCF still basically owns the tracks
11:49:35  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah great arguments
11:49:35  <Stablean> <V453000> well done
11:49:41  <Benny> arguments?
11:50:01  * skyem123 bonks V453000 on the head
11:50:07  <Stablean> <V453000> "infrastructure sharing is better than playing in 1 company because..."
11:50:09  <Stablean> <bon> heh skyem :)
11:50:15  <Stablean> <bon> skyem don't we all want to do that!
11:50:17  <Stablean> <V453000> ... because EU does that?
11:50:19  <Stablean> <V453000> fun
11:50:26  <Benny> those were not arguments V453000
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11:50:38  <Stablean> <V453000> well there were no other arguments yet if I am aware
11:50:47  <Benny> well as i said you wont understand it
11:50:58  <Benny> because you're a total min-maxer and #coop maniac :P
11:51:09  <Stablean> <V453000> no because I am waiting for 1 argument
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11:51:23  <Benny> bon: do you know how to most efficiently build a SRNW?
11:51:26  <Benny> or what a MSH is
11:51:30  <Stablean> <V453000> which my opposition seems to be unabel to construct
11:52:00  <Stablean> <bon> benny tbh I've sometimes looked at these junctions etc ... but a lot of it is somewhat a bit of foreign gameplay concept to me tho
11:52:04  <Benny> see
11:52:06  <Stablean> <bon> if you understand what I'm really saying
11:52:09  <Benny> yes
11:52:13  <Benny> i understand completely
11:52:17  <Stablean> <bon> ty
11:52:18  <Benny> V453000 doesnt
11:52:29  <Stablean> <V453000> I do, simply because you didnt build it before yet
11:52:31  <Stablean> <bon> I do sometimes learn from other players tho
11:52:31  <Stablean> <V453000> simple
11:52:38  <Stablean> <bon> especially re overflow depots (which I have to yet try)
11:53:22  <Stablean> <V453000> there is nothing foreign, if you have not enough traffic capacity, you have to expand
11:53:24  <Stablean> <V453000> or am I wrong there?
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11:55:00  <Benny> no of course
11:55:18  <skyem123> hmm...
11:55:32  <skyem123> why is the Victoria tube all white?
11:55:42  <Stablean> <V453000> then how can it be foreign if it is a logical conclusion to traffic problems
11:55:42  <Stablean> <bon> thats what the real thing were? :)
11:55:52  <skyem123> it isn't
11:56:06  <Stablean> <bon> skyem they didn't always have red paintjob ;)
11:56:07  <skyem123> i have been on the victoria line...
11:56:12  <skyem123> wait what
11:56:14  <skyem123> ....
11:56:31  * skyem123 bonks skyem123 on the head
11:56:32  <Stablean> <bon> skyem..just like how the famously known london doubledeck bus was actually in green by a large fleet too
11:56:49  * skyem123 bonks skyem123 on the head
11:56:56  * skyem123 bonks skyem123 on the head x5
11:56:58  <Stablean> <bon> umm..don't hurt your head :)
11:57:14  * skyem123 rubs skyem123's head
11:57:44  * skyem123 says "Ow" 
11:57:52  <planetmaker> <Stablean> <bon> which of I wonder where planetmaker could be <-- at work
11:58:01  * skyem123 is talking in 3rd person
11:58:33  <Stablean> <bon> planetmaker heh..didn't think you would be on irc atm .. but mm yeah your one stagecoaches-loaded train is still running ;)
11:58:50  <planetmaker> I'm about on IRC always. And if not, I have backlog
11:58:55  <V453000> did you assume I  am not at work or what :D
11:59:04  <Benny> same ^
11:59:06  <Stablean> <bon> skyem btw there are some all-red tube trains too (no whites) .. etc
11:59:10  <planetmaker> V453000, no, I didn't. But I was 'asked'
11:59:16  <Stablean> <bon> so its a mix of red+white/red/white paintjobs
11:59:20  <V453000> I didnt say that to you either pm :P
11:59:25  <planetmaker> ;-)
12:00:10  <skyem123> i wonder if they have to BRAND new metropolitan line trains
12:00:26  <Stablean> <bon> brb
12:00:57  <skyem123> the only tube train you can walk between the carrages
12:01:31  <planetmaker> V453000, though I must say, in the southern parts of Germany there's public holiday. I clearly live in the wrong part
12:01:41  <V453000> :D
12:02:48  <V453000> btw pm I have over half of new nuts complete :P push things perhaps soon(tm) :D
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12:04:48  <skyem123> what part is new?
12:05:45  <planetmaker> would be really looking forward to that, V453000
12:05:51  <planetmaker> it's irking me that it doesn't work
12:06:25  <planetmaker> though I really think that it must be something on your end. Noone else has issues
12:06:51  <V453000> I think so too but its total wtf
12:07:00  <planetmaker> agreed
12:07:32  <planetmaker> as said: simply pull a new repo from devzone. and then pull also your current local repo in that new repo
12:07:41  <planetmaker> and try to push then from the new local repo to devzone
12:07:42  <V453000> I think I did that
12:07:44  <planetmaker> that's what I'd try
12:07:47  <planetmaker> but ^
12:07:58  <V453000> myeah meh, will try later :)
12:08:06  <planetmaker> :)
12:08:07  <V453000> skyem123, about 14 new trains :) and more
12:09:19  <skyem123> coming soon(tm)? hm...
12:10:08  <V453000> yes, precisely then
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12:12:03  <planetmaker> NUTS is never late, nor is it early, it arrives precisely when it means to ;-)
12:12:27  <V453000> that sounds too wise
12:13:00  <V453000> was thinking of something more like Beer, NUTS iz here, beer, beer, or is it, beer, beer IDONTKNOWHOWDOESITMATTERWEWANTNEWNUTS, beer, beer, beer
12:13:11  <Djanxy> sounds more like a LOTR reference :D
12:13:49  <V453000> why :D
12:14:05  * skyem123 bonks V453000 on the head
12:14:08  <Benny> lol i was totally thinking about gandalf reading it
12:14:15  * V453000 slaps skyem123 around a bit with a large fishbot
12:14:27  <V453000> YOU SHALL NOT ASS
12:14:35  <Benny> ass? :P
12:15:14  * skyem123 does something totally epic!
12:15:31  <V453000> ass.
12:16:20  <Stablean> <bon> back now
12:16:23  <Stablean> <bon> oh hi djanxy :D
12:16:37  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi
12:16:43  <Stablean> <bon> how doing?
12:16:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> just having a look, going away for the weekend
12:17:11  <Stablean> <bon> ah ok...what doing on weekend?
12:17:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> just going to visit my father, nothing special ;)
12:17:59  <Stablean> <bon> mm ... sounds like fun either way
12:18:25  <Stablean> <bon> anyway...time for another major route again..
12:18:29  <skyem123> i have made a silly rail line
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12:20:31  <Stablean> <bon> where skyem?
12:20:56  <skyem123> Town called Sadhead
12:21:27  <Stablean> <bon> ummm....I only can ask...WHY? :P
12:21:29  <Stablean> <bon> haha
12:22:03  <Stablean> <bon> ughh...
12:22:13  <skyem123> science
12:22:21  <Stablean> <bon> :p skyem
12:22:44  <skyem123> Mark may want to kill me
12:22:56  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> WHY NOT!!!
12:23:18  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i build this industry there i needed the space
12:23:34  <Stablean> <bon> why not build it higher up where it would already be level anyway?
12:23:34  <Stablean> <bon> :)
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12:23:50  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i like it then its plaine
12:23:50  <Stablean> <bon> hi again benny? :)
12:24:12  <Stablean> <Benny> lol yes thats pretty bad
12:24:56  <Stablean> <Benny> its like a badly implemented mini-SML :P
12:26:35  <skyem123> what is bad?
12:26:42  <Stablean> <Benny> you could add some more platforms there skyem
12:30:30  <skyem123> did you say my line is a bad mini-shift main line?
12:30:49  <Stablean> <Benny> yes the line atsadhead
12:31:03  <Stablean> <Benny> its a good idea in theory, but the line is unfortunately too short for it to work :/
12:31:12  <skyem123> all my mainlines turn into that
12:31:21  <skyem123> in single-player
12:32:29  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Puczas
12:32:31  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> Hi i am the Help Robot, woot can i do for you?
12:32:42  <Stablean> <Benny> give me pancakes
12:32:44  <Stablean> <bon> offered to test HST .. turned it down
12:32:46  <Stablean> <bon> its diesel which I didn't need
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12:36:00  <Stablean> <bon> only thing I could want is Class 92
12:36:02  <Stablean> <bon> hehehe
12:48:53  <skyem123> what engine had both overhead and 3rd rail?
12:49:01  <V453000> slugs
12:49:04  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...Class 91 afaik
12:49:10  <Stablean> <bon> theres some EMU with that capacity too
12:49:13  <Stablean> <bon> one sec..
12:49:47  <Stablean> <bon> 1976 gives you the Class 313 which runs on both
12:50:09  <Stablean> <bon> or ABB Class 325 in 1995 but its only meant for mail or other express freights
12:51:03  <Stablean> <bon> and btw the 313 is already in buy list now
12:51:26  <Stablean> <bon> oh nice.. Freightliner cars too...just in time for a new route I finished
12:51:44  <skyem123> what is it called?
12:51:52  <Stablean> <bon> its a wagon
12:51:58  <Stablean> <bon> look a bit further down in buy list
12:52:04  <Stablean> <bon> I should warn you its an articulated set
12:52:20  <skyem123> i meant the class
12:52:22  <Stablean> <bon> train 23 of mine has it now if you want see
12:52:28  <Stablean> <bon> oh
12:52:38  <Stablean> <bon> that is actually its class.. 313 aka BREL Class 313
12:52:50  <skyem123> uhhh...
12:53:02  <skyem123> i meant the dual power engine
12:53:08  <Stablean> <bon> oh..sorry
12:53:19  <Stablean> <bon> Brush Class 92
12:54:22  <skyem123> oh...
12:54:27  <skyem123> the 313 appeared
12:54:30  <Stablean> <bon> oh sorry haha..I forgot I was offere to test it
12:54:32  <Stablean> <bon> geeze
12:54:55  <Stablean> <bon> they should include some kind of colored dot or something in the buy list to imply a testing locomotie
12:55:07  <Stablean> <bon> I thought it was already out because it was in *my* buy list
12:55:07  <skyem123> yes...
12:55:14  <skyem123> that would be handy
13:03:03  <skyem123> where do you find info on where the trains come out?
13:03:19  <Stablean> <bon> skyem pikka's wiki for ukrs2
13:03:46  <Stablean> <bon> or in this case its at
13:03:56  <Stablean> <bon> scroll down to see the complete table index near footer
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13:05:02  <Stablean> <bon> hi liuk :)
13:05:04  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
13:05:18  <skyem123> Class 9E...
13:05:49  <Stablean> <bon> 9E?
13:06:43  <skyem123> i'm testing it
13:06:59  <Stablean> <bon> whats a 9E?
13:07:33  <skyem123> Class 9E
13:07:47  <Stablean> <bon> well its probably not ukrs then as there is no 9E in the list anywhere
13:07:55  <Stablean> <bon> you talking about the tropic locomotive?
13:08:04  <skyem123> oh...
13:08:06  <skyem123> yes...
13:08:17  <Stablean> <bon> heh...not sure why theres two traingrfs but ehh :)
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13:08:28  <skyem123> TRS: late game
13:09:39  <Stablean> <bon> ok it took a few round-n-round chasing but looks like I got the two supplies running smoothly now
13:10:05  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> which supplies?
13:10:11  <Stablean> <bon> farm and engineering at pretty much the same time
13:10:19  <Stablean> <bon> had to add some extra trains for the output from there too
13:10:25  <Stablean> <bon> now just need to make a milk route
13:10:27  <V453000> its because UKRS2 is too bad to be alone (: needs good trains for modern era
13:10:27  <Stablean> <bon> :)
13:10:42  <Stablean> <bon> theres actually several modern locos there
13:11:02  <skyem123> i think we should have maps like this (very hard) every now and then.
13:11:04  <V453000> doesnt mean they are very useful
13:11:09  <V453000> no we wont skyem123
13:11:11  <V453000> if you mean costs
13:11:26  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...I actually like it...I'm still awash in too much cash yet
13:11:28  <Stablean> <bon> but eh
13:11:38  <Benny> i dislike this hard difficulty stuff
13:11:46  <Benny> cause this is a coop server
13:11:53  <skyem123> some people like it... some people hate it...
13:12:00  <V453000> too bad
13:12:02  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> nah everything other is too easy and you have too much money that you cant spend
13:12:04  <Stablean> <bon> well benny...if anyone's needing help...I have $ to donate
13:12:06  <Benny> its still a coop server....
13:12:08  <V453000> this server is for building a lot and quickly
13:12:17  <Stablean> <bon> chris...aye
13:12:20  <V453000> no care about something as primitive as cash numbers
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13:12:25  <Benny> V453000: exactly
13:12:31  <V453000> I know right :P
13:12:32  <Stablean> <bon> cash = construction
13:12:34  <Stablean> <bon> is there more to say?
13:12:42  <Benny> more money = more construction
13:13:07  <V453000> openttd absolutely isnt about making money since the payment algorithm is super dumb - far = better
13:13:26  <V453000> so making everything cheap to motivate people to think about building better instead of more profittable is a good thing imo
13:13:26  <planetmaker> you can have that on PS a lot. No-one cares there about money. You also can coop there
13:13:27  <Benny> V453000: indeed
13:13:38  <planetmaker> This one should offer some variety in playing
13:13:54  <skyem123> ukrs2 can start in 1830
13:13:56  <skyem123> woah
13:14:04  <V453000> it has more effects than you may think, e.g. less people tend to spread over whole map just for distance
13:14:04  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...not my kind of thing tho
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13:14:27  <V453000> pm nobody is stopping you, but I wont make such configuration
13:14:29  <Stablean> <bon> skyem I usually like 1920 for pretty much anything I play
13:14:33  <V453000> because I think higher costs dont gain anything at all
13:14:57  <skyem123> is there a map achive of all the games played on the welcome server??
13:15:02  <Benny> higher costs gain nothing but waiting times
13:15:04  <V453000> no skyem123
13:15:10  <planetmaker> V453000, no-one said you should. But it's not alright for people to constantly bitch if something different than all-insane defaults is used
13:15:29  <planetmaker> and I'm quite looking at Benny there who bitches since ever this map was uploaded
13:15:40  <V453000> nobody bitches about that either, only about things which reason
13:15:41  <planetmaker> but haven't seen him provide or offer a map
13:15:42  <Stablean> <bon> and yet did you hear a single peep from me? :P
13:15:46  <V453000> e.g. if smoething breaks, of course people bitch
13:15:56  <Benny> of course you single me out
13:16:01  <planetmaker> of course
13:16:02  <V453000> if something is functionally problematic, of course people bitch
13:16:46  <V453000> that someone makes a map doesnt mean they should be "protected" from negative criticism for mistakes or strange mechanics in the map
13:17:15  <V453000> his input is rather reasonable and therefore more or less constructive so I wouldnt take that too badly
13:18:01  <V453000> and especially as these are things which point out to "returning something to long tested standards", it is more than likely to be rather a hint
13:19:00  <Stablean> <bon> heh refinery area getting a bit busy...good thing theres only one untouched oilwell left
13:19:49  <planetmaker> Insane building without money considerations is what the PS is for. This server is not PS
13:20:05  <planetmaker> So other than easy-money configurations are absolutely acceptable
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13:20:37  <V453000> nope
13:20:47  <Stablean> <bon> hmm...say...if I go with ships I could get double food sources....hmmm *thinks*
13:21:05  <V453000> even with the same map this server wont be PS
13:21:08  <V453000> nothing will change that
13:21:14  <Stablean> <bon> oh nevermind..the ships don't like a lot of cargos
13:21:20  <skyem123> argh!
13:21:22  <Stablean> <bon> guess a new dairy it is
13:21:30  <Stablean> <bon> argh what? :-s
13:21:35  <skyem123> i build one depot and all the trains flock to it
13:21:38  <Benny> i thought this server was a way of introducing people to the PS server
13:21:43  <V453000> no
13:21:46  <planetmaker> no
13:21:55  <planetmaker> This server was meant to test OpenTTD
13:21:57  <V453000> just a random playground with solid settings
13:22:02  <planetmaker> You having fun is just collateral ;-)
13:22:08  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...did you by any chance click 'send for maintenance'?
13:22:09  <skyem123> i think the setting for servicing needs to be disabled
13:22:15  <skyem123> no...
13:22:21  <Benny> i see
13:22:26  <Stablean> <bon> well my depots are accessible and I've never had anything go there
13:22:30  <Benny> in that case building costs do not matter
13:22:36  <Stablean> <bon> so you must have done something manually
13:22:46  <skyem123> misclick
13:22:47  <skyem123> oops
13:22:52  <Stablean> <bon> eh :)
13:23:02  <skyem123> well, i killed marks train network...
13:23:10  * skyem123 is going to get killed
13:23:11  <planetmaker> This server just gained a life on its own ;-)
13:23:19  <V453000> "on its own"
13:23:57  <Stablean> <bon> where to put dairy.....hrm
13:25:14  <planetmaker> dairy products are to be put on my table, of course
13:25:29  <Stablean> <bon> heh..I meant as in where to fund one for myself :P
13:25:31  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
13:25:51  <Stablean> <bon> found a spot anyway
13:26:14  <skyem123> woah...
13:26:16  <skyem123> jam
13:26:38  <skyem123> my rail go upgraded...
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13:28:27  <skyem123> *downgraded
13:29:24  <Stablean> <bon> eh looks like depot graphics update themself over time
13:31:42  <Stablean> <bon> ah...the existing ones don't...apparently you just have to rebuild them :)
13:31:49  <skyem123> oops
13:32:04  <skyem123> why are all the trains getting serviced?
13:32:10  <Stablean> <bon> you ran autoreplace
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13:32:45  <Stablean> <bon> and now looks like you pressed the 'all stop' button :)
13:32:52  <Stablean> <bon> oh...or maybe not
13:33:08  <skyem123> i didn't
13:33:17  <skyem123> mark is going to be sooo mad
13:33:28  <Stablean> <bon> you still have a lot of fund so don't sweat it too much
13:33:54  <skyem123> STOP! autoreplace!!!!!!
13:34:16  <Stablean> <bon> skyem to do that go to the autoreplace window
13:34:39  <skyem123> i presseed stop and it starts again...
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13:34:55  <Stablean> <bon> probably because you're not in the 'all fleet' autoreplace window
13:35:02  <skyem123> i am
13:35:05  <Stablean> <bon> or 'all trains' d epending how its worded
13:35:10  <skyem123> i am
13:35:25  <Stablean> <bon> well skyem where do you see the orange arrow icon then? is it next to 'all trains'?
13:35:35  <skyem123> yes
13:35:57  <Stablean> <bon> so that means you still have something need to stop clicking wildly
13:35:59  <Stablean> <bon> eh? :)
13:36:09  <skyem123> i want to stop it!
13:36:20  <Stablean> <bon> so stop for a moment..and look at where you are actually clicking things? :/
13:36:36  <skyem123> stop replaceing veicles
13:37:04  <Stablean> <bon> one sec..
13:37:06  <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #3
13:37:31  <Stablean> <bon> you need to stop clicking like crazy
13:37:34  <skyem123> ok....
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13:37:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hi
13:38:40  <skyem123> how to stop autoreplace....
13:38:55  <Stablean> <bon> by clicking the other button once and put your mouse down? -_-
13:39:01  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah Brel APPT
13:39:14  <skyem123> what?
13:39:21  <Stablean> <bon> chris...nice...too bad I don't have a big city to use it on yet
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13:40:04  <skyem123> i want to stop autoreplace...
13:40:12  <Stablean> <bon> so why did you keep starting it?
13:40:16  <Stablean> <bon> thats what I'm exactly seeing
13:40:20  <skyem123> i dont!
13:40:34  <skyem123> it does it on its own!
13:40:36  <Stablean> <bon> well then why did it go from 'no replacing' to 'EE deltic' while I was watching?
13:40:46  <Stablean> <bon> so you're needing to put the mouse down for at least a few seconds
13:40:55  <skyem123> I DON'T KNOW!!!
13:41:18  <V453000> RAGE
13:41:20  <Stablean> <bon> I'm only going say it one more time then leave it alone: stop clicking like silly
13:41:21  <V453000> RAGE
13:41:22  <V453000> RAGE
13:41:22  <Stablean> <bon> heh
13:41:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie> QUIT
13:41:27  <Stablean> <bon> btw hi vinnie how're you?
13:41:29  <V453000> GG
13:41:31  <skyem123> press what button?
13:41:31  <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving)
13:41:40  <V453000> he is fine
13:42:56  <Stablean> <skyem123> someone else is on pink....
13:43:03  <Stablean> <skyem123> maybe he is doing it...
13:43:06  <V453000> !players
13:43:09  <Stablean> V453000: Client 166 (Pink) is skyem123, in company 3 (Alcoholics United)
13:43:09  <Stablean> V453000: Client 149 (Yellow) is Christoph Stüwe, in company 11 (Christoph Stüwe Transport)
13:43:09  <Stablean> V453000: Client 155 (Blue) is bon, in company 1 (British Electric Railways (BER))
13:43:09  <Stablean> V453000: Client 160 (Pale Green) is Campi, in company 14 (RuPla Camp.)
13:43:09  <Stablean> V453000: Client 182 (Pink) is CB, in company 3 (Alcoholics United)
13:43:34  <V453000> !rcon move 182
13:43:34  <Stablean> V453000: - Move a client to another company. Usage: move <client-id> <company-id>
13:43:34  <Stablean> V453000: - For valid client-id see 'clients', for valid company-id see 'companies', use 255 for moving to spectators
13:43:38  <V453000> !rcon move 182 255
13:43:38  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** CB has joined spectators
13:43:46  <Stablean> *** CB has joined company #3
13:43:50  <V453000> !rcon move 182 255
13:43:50  <Stablean> V453000: ‎[All] CB: ?
13:43:50  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** CB has joined spectators
13:43:52  <Stablean> *** CB has joined company #3
13:43:58  <Stablean> <bon> ah....guess the two of us were both wrong
13:44:04  <Stablean> <bon> its someone else wrecking things
13:44:07  <V453000> !rcon move 182 255
13:44:07  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** CB has joined spectators
13:44:14  <Stablean> *** CB has joined company #3
13:44:19  <V453000> !rcon kick 182
13:44:19  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** CB has left the game (kicked by server)
13:44:19  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** CB has left the game (connection lost)
13:44:40  <Stablean> <bon> btw skyem...forget about anything we were yelling about....the real problem is fixed now I guess :-s
13:44:44  <Benny> you should password your company skyem
13:44:44  <Stablean> *** CB joined the game
13:44:55  <V453000> !players
13:44:57  <Stablean> V453000: Client 166 (Pink) is skyem123, in company 3 (Alcoholics United)
13:44:57  <Stablean> V453000: Client 149 (Yellow) is Christoph Stüwe, in company 11 (Christoph Stüwe Transport)
13:44:57  <Stablean> V453000: Client 155 (Blue) is bon, in company 1 (British Electric Railways (BER))
13:44:57  <Stablean> V453000: Client 160 (Pale Green) is Campi, in company 14 (RuPla Camp.)
13:44:57  <Stablean> V453000: Client 188 (Green) is CB, in company 6 (Shnupz Transport)
13:45:01  <V453000> !rcon kick 188
13:45:01  <Stablean> V453000: ‎[All] bon: umm shunupz too?
13:45:02  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** CB has left the game (kicked by server)
13:45:02  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** CB has left the game (connection lost)
13:45:05  <skyem123> hmm
13:45:08  <Stablean> <bon> eh
13:45:15  <skyem123> mark doesn't know the password
13:45:21  <skyem123> (it was his company...)
13:45:25  <Stablean> <bon> oh forgot about one of my old pax line
13:45:26  <planetmaker> he can move himself into it
13:45:27  <V453000> he doesnt need a password
13:45:31  <Stablean> <CB> ?
13:45:31  <Stablean> *** CB joined the game
13:45:50  <V453000> !players
13:45:52  <Stablean> V453000: Client 166 (Pink) is skyem123, in company 3 (Alcoholics United)
13:45:52  <Stablean> V453000: Client 149 (Yellow) is Christoph Stüwe, in company 11 (Christoph Stüwe Transport)
13:45:52  <Stablean> V453000: Client 155 (Blue) is bon, in company 1 (British Electric Railways (BER))
13:45:52  <Stablean> V453000: Client 160 (Pale Green) is Campi, in company 14 (RuPla Camp.)
13:45:52  <Stablean> V453000: Client 190 (Green) is CB, in company 6 (Shnupz Transport)
13:45:59  <V453000> wtf are you doing CB?
13:46:11  <Stablean> <CB> why kick
13:46:26  <Stablean> <CB> i cant start my own company
13:46:37  <Stablean> <bon> so ASK
13:46:41  <Stablean> <bon> jeeze
13:46:42  <V453000> not an excuse to invade others
13:46:44  <V453000> at all
13:46:47  <Stablean> <bon> indeed ^^
13:46:47  <skyem123> no reason to mess up others...
13:47:17  <Stablean> <bon> skyem..btw your brown company...that could be closed down no?
13:47:23  <skyem123> yes it could
13:47:39  <Stablean> <bon> well thats a free slot for CB anyway
13:47:49  <Stablean> <bon> see how simple it was when you bother thinking cb?
13:47:51  <Stablean> <bon> :)
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13:49:17  <Stablean> <V453000> dont think you need to sign the water with canals skyem123
13:49:19  <Stablean> <bon> CB for the last time thats *** not your company
13:49:21  <Stablean> <V453000> pretty lame
13:49:21  <Stablean> <bon> so stop messing it
13:49:38  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 8
13:49:38  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
13:49:51  <Stablean> <CB> no slot for new comapmy
13:49:58  <Stablean> <bon> cb .. ARE YOU DEAF
13:50:04  <Stablean> *** CB has joined spectators
13:50:06  <Stablean> *** CB has started a new company (#8)
13:50:10  <Stablean> <bon> several times we have told you to stop messing companies you don't own?
13:50:10  <Stablean> <V453000> shut up bon this is not your business
13:50:20  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 9
13:50:20  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
13:50:52  <Stablean> <bon> ehh how do you know niko isn't coming back?
13:50:56  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 15
13:50:56  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
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13:53:05  <skyem123> ugh...
13:53:53  <Stablean> <bon> whats the issue atm?
13:55:06  <skyem123> i hope mark gets the irc message i sent hi,
13:55:08  <skyem123> i hope mark gets the irc message i sent him
13:55:19  <skyem123> about his company password
13:55:23  <Stablean> <bon> ah ok
13:55:26  <Stablean> <bon> yeah
13:55:36  <Stablean> <bon> if you're not around and I see him I can mention it too allright?
13:55:43  <V453000> god we told you again that he doesnt need his password
13:55:53  <skyem123> what?
13:56:02  <V453000> he can move himself into the company through rcon
13:56:12  <planetmaker> skyem123, every admin in this channel can move players into any company. And thus needs no password.
13:56:23  <planetmaker> as he can of course also move himself
13:56:27  <skyem123> ok
13:57:07  <skyem123> when does the good freight engine come?
13:57:16  <Stablean> <bon> skyem..diesel or electric? :)
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13:57:37  <skyem123> witch is better. i have electric
13:57:44  <Stablean> <bon> mm one sec
13:58:54  <Stablean> <bon> well 1962 has Type 4 which is already here now .. or 1983 has Class 58 due anytime soon
13:59:04  <Stablean> <bon> thats for two diesels
13:59:24  <Stablean> <bon> Class 58 is a bit slower than Type 4 tho
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14:02:03  <skyem123> Sulzer Type 4?
14:02:13  <skyem123> or brush type 4
14:02:33  <Stablean> <bon> oh ops I didn't noticed that overlap..
14:02:35  <Stablean> <bon> the Brush one ofc
14:03:33  <Stablean> <bon> geeze...thats funny .. two identical types tho
14:03:59  <skyem123> when will there be a good electric one?
14:04:14  <Stablean> <bon> skyem.... Class 92 isn't till 1993
14:04:37  <Stablean> <bon> for now you just have the EM2 for overhead or BR Type HA for 3rd rail freights
14:04:59  <Stablean> <bon> (to me anyway)
14:06:58  <Stablean> <bon> btw theres still a few more minor wagon capacity upgrades marked for 1985
14:07:04  <Stablean> <bon> but then otherwise thats it in term of wagons for good
14:11:32  <Stablean> <bon> btw skyem... your train 20 isn't exactly making good profit...perhaps too high runcost at 15-23000 pounds anyway
14:11:55  <skyem123> i didn't upgrade it....
14:12:00  <skyem123> ARGH!
14:12:03  <Stablean> <bon> ehh well now you know why its there :-s
14:13:42  <Stablean> <bon> anyway time for a route for some emu's...
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14:19:43  <Stablean> <bon> hi woodbutcher
14:19:45  <Stablean> <bon> how doing? :)
14:19:47  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi bon
14:19:49  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi all
14:19:55  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hi
14:20:02  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> I'm good how are you?
14:20:04  <skyem123> Hello!
14:20:14  <Stablean> <bon> doing ok..just about finished a route before you paused to come on here :)
14:20:24  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> oh yeah my company runs smooth
14:20:39  <Stablean> <bon> except you could learn what a slope is? ;)
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14:20:45  <Stablean> <bon> heh
14:20:56  <Stablean> <bon> anyway...enuff said
14:21:06  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> who me?
14:21:06  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher...have fun picking new trains etc :)
14:21:16  <Stablean> <bon> oh no..that was to chris
14:21:26  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> woot is a slope?
14:21:32  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thanks, got a suggestion for a good engine?
14:21:39  <Stablean> <bon> one sec woodbutcher...
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14:21:58  <Stablean> <bon> hmm thats a small network....lets see..
14:22:20  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> Brush Type 4 is nice
14:22:30  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher well if you want stay diesels then my suggestion is this...
14:22:56  <Stablean> <bon> Metro Cammell DMU for the passengers ... Brush Type 4 with new wagons for the freights
14:23:04  <Stablean> <bon> bit different speeds but considering the small lines it'll be ok
14:23:42  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok i'll check 'em out
14:24:21  <Stablean> <bon> btw livestocks only can go in the vintage tiny livestock van
14:24:29  <Stablean> <bon> don't ask me why pikka never bothered making any upgrade to that
14:24:36  <Stablean> <bon> other cargos have their own newer wagons tho
14:24:50  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol of course
14:25:21  <Stablean> <bon> btw woodbutcher if you want build one more station...
14:25:29  <Stablean> <bon> the textile mill can accept plant fibers :P
14:25:35  <Stablean> <bon> I'll leave that choice to you tho ;)
14:25:53  <Stablean> <bon> oh wait...
14:25:57  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah i was nearly broke when i went to sleep
14:26:19  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher if you still want carry mail you'll have to do with  loco hauled trains instead (as the dmu/emu can't take mail last I checked) ...
14:26:19  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> kinda surprised that i'm still here
14:26:42  <Stablean> <bon> you could mix Sulzer 4 for the passenger/mail and Brush 4 for freights if you want
14:26:46  <Stablean> <bon> but its your own company so :P
14:27:01  <Stablean> <bon> and just to humor you heres a bit of a boost...
14:27:12  <Stablean> <bon> have fun :)
14:27:12  <V453000> bon you dont want to know why there arent modern livestock wagons :)
14:27:20  <V453000> (because it is realistic)
14:27:26  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> xD
14:27:28  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> pwnd!
14:27:42  <Stablean> <bon> usa had some newer ones in the 1950s actually
14:27:45  <V453000> officially because "there wasnt any boxcar like that in britain in those times"
14:27:56  <Stablean> <bon> although that doesn't count the specialized (only a few of them) wagons for the modern circus trains
14:28:05  <V453000> funnily enough, if you play with UKRS2 and with expiring vehicles, at some time of the game you will not have ANY livestock wagons
14:28:06  <V453000> XD
14:28:19  <V453000> so yeah realism ftw
14:28:45  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok back in a bit
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14:28:55  <Stablean> <bon> ok then :)
14:29:46  <Stablean> <bon> is it possible to make cows sick from eating too much bagged feeds?
14:30:36  <Stablean> <bon> because I seem to be sending 300+ crates/monthly of farm supplies to just one dairy farm nonstop :)
14:30:42  <Stablean> <bon> hehehe
14:34:40  <Stablean> <bon> anyway still have 2 unfinished chains yet but going take a break for a while tho
14:35:06  <Stablean> <bon> skyem have fun (and as I said..sorry about us yelling at each to want to whack CB eh?)
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14:48:49  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah guys...
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14:48:58  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i build a 18 mill EUR bridge...
14:49:13  <Stablean> *** acs has started a new company (#9)
14:54:17  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (downloading map took too long)
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14:54:49  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> zzZZZzzzZZzz
14:55:03  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hi player
14:55:11  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to iubin
14:55:13  <Stablean> <iubin> hi
14:55:32  <skyem123> hello
14:55:42  <Stablean> <iubin> map change?
14:58:42  <skyem123> ?
14:59:04  <Stablean> <iubin> I mean, map changed since last time I joined
14:59:22  <skyem123> yup,
14:59:28  <skyem123> i made this map
14:59:38  <Stablean> <iubin> cool job
14:59:40  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> its a nice map yo
15:00:27  <Stablean> <iubin> shall I start a new company or maybe I could join an existing one?
15:00:29  <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has joined company #10
15:00:31  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> back
15:00:42  <skyem123> it's very hard to start on this map
15:00:52  <Stablean> <iubin> I had that idea
15:01:16  <Stablean> *** acs has left the game (leaving)
15:01:39  <skyem123> rails cost £1376
15:02:18  <skyem123> purr is cheaper than dual power...
15:02:21  <skyem123> wow...
15:03:16  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> holy bridge arama Batman!
15:03:26  <skyem123> what?
15:03:44  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> someones making crazy long bridges
15:03:54  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> and it costs over 16 millions!
15:05:40  <Stablean> *** iubin has started a new company (#9)
15:08:01  <skyem123> infrastructure sharing would be useful on this map. sharing bridges and the fact that rails cost a lot will probably share rails.
15:10:31  <Stablean> *** iubin has left the game (leaving)
15:11:46  <skyem123> oops. someone forgot to properly name a veicle
15:12:35  <skyem123> uhh...
15:12:46  <skyem123> can towns build roads?
15:12:57  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yes
15:13:19  <skyem123> i thought i disabled that...
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15:22:29  <skyem123> eek,
15:22:40  <skyem123> timed SML looks complex
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15:32:25  <Mark__> hai
15:32:30  <skyem123> hello.
15:32:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
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15:32:39  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hey
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15:39:33  <Mark__> hows the game going
15:40:04  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> hmmm?
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15:40:47  <skyem123> oopd
15:40:49  <skyem123> *oopd
15:40:52  <skyem123> *oops
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15:41:41  <skyem123> ???
15:42:06  <Mark__> ?
15:42:17  <Mark__> guess it doesn't like me logging in from 2 locations
15:42:21  <skyem123> ah
15:42:23  <skyem123> i see
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15:44:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello again
15:44:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
15:52:23  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> how long runs this server?
15:52:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> till people get bored
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16:00:42  <Stablean> <bon> back for a bit finally
16:00:46  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> wb
16:00:49  <Stablean> <bon> ty
16:02:23  <Stablean> <bon> mmm looks like I did have things pretty stable for now
16:06:43  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh...jubin seem to not know how to look at industry windows
16:06:57  <Stablean> <bon> he's trying to pick up supples from a factory that requires it not produce it :->
16:07:19  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> whoops
16:09:45  <Stablean> <bon> afk to eat anyway
16:21:06  <Mark__> !companies
16:21:09  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 1 (Blue): British Electric Railways (BER)
16:21:09  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 2 (Light Blue): JoeSchmoe Transport
16:21:09  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 3 (Pink): Alcoholics United
16:21:09  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 4 (Orange): jedraf Transport
16:21:09  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 5 (Red): planetm4ker Transport
16:21:11  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 6 (Green): Shnupz Transport
16:21:11  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 7 (Purple): Bridge Industries
16:21:13  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 8 (Dark Green): CB Transport
16:21:13  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 9 (Brown): iubin Transport
16:21:15  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 10 (White): Woodbutcher Transport
16:21:15  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 11 (Yellow): Christoph Stüwe Transport
16:21:17  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 12 (Grey): ROM5419 Logistics Initiative
16:21:17  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 13 (Mauve): Mufama company
16:21:19  <Stablean> Mark__: Company 14 (Pale Green): RuPla Camp.
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16:29:39  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> yeah yo bitchez!
16:29:52  <skyem123> bon, what was the good electric freight engine you said you would use when it comes out?
16:36:24  <Stablean> <bon> back now
16:36:27  <Stablean> <bon>
16:36:46  <Stablean> <bon> Class 92 .. but its not due for a little bit longer yet
16:37:03  <skyem123> Bush Class 92?
16:37:10  <Stablean> <bon> ya
16:37:20  <Stablean> <bon> btw whats with train 17 of yours?? :P
16:37:25  <skyem123> i think i was offered to test that...
16:37:40  <Stablean> <bon> ah...well it'll come for all of us in 1 year ish then
16:37:41  <skyem123> train 17 is needed to make towns grow
16:39:56  <Stablean> <bon> ah heh...well in 1-2 years you could use ABB Class 325 which is a cheap highspeed postal train :)
16:40:05  <skyem123> London Underground 1992 Stock is here
16:40:08  <Stablean> <bon> probably less runcost too
16:40:31  <Stablean> <bon> 120+kph with 60 bags of mail onboard (and whatever you add via extra mail cars)
16:40:33  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
16:40:47  <Stablean> <bon> anyway I need to afk for the afternoon constructions this time :-s
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16:55:14  <skyem123> hello
16:55:24  <Benny> good evening
16:55:39  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
17:12:16  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> how much hours are 50 years?
17:14:10  <Benny> around 11
17:14:19  <Benny>
17:17:26  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> enough played for today i think ... lol ...
17:18:01  <skyem123> upgrading trains == more profit
17:18:19  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> upgrade to what?
17:18:53  <skyem123> i upgraded the mish-mash of engines to Bush Class 92
17:19:21  <Stablean> <CGW> Hi guys, anybody know what year this server restarts?
17:19:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> usually when people get bored and ask for a new map
17:20:07  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> and everyone agrees
17:20:19  <skyem123> people have asked fora new map since the start
17:20:27  <Stablean> <CGW> haha so forever!! awesome, was looking for a server like this for ages
17:20:28  <skyem123> (Too hard for some people)
17:20:31  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i run brush type 4 on the most tracks i dont think it will give me more profite...
17:20:41  <Stablean> <CGW> shame there are no big ships, why is this?
17:20:53  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> would be too easy
17:20:58  <Benny> CGW: do !rules :)
17:22:09  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> CGW you want some money?
17:22:37  <Stablean> <CGW> no its ok, i'm just getting to grips with this server etc, so no money.
17:22:42  <Stablean> <CGW> ty though
17:22:50  <skyem123> this is a hard to start game
17:22:53  <skyem123> *map
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17:23:18  <skyem123> Hello!
17:23:25  <Jam35> hi
17:23:32  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi jam
17:23:33  <Benny> evening
17:24:10  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> i have a rating over 800 i think this is fine, or?
17:25:22  <Benny> try to get it to 1000 ;)
17:27:12  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotta go cyas
17:27:20  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> have fun
17:27:20  <skyem123> bye!
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17:28:16  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> till which year new trains apears?
17:28:36  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#15)
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17:30:32  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> lalala
17:31:35  <skyem123> your rail network is LONG Christoph
17:31:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> he cant make that next games
17:32:03  <skyem123> why not?
17:32:04  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> why?
17:32:15  <Stablean> <Vinnie> basecost mod needs to make terraform costs for water high again
17:32:35  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> its high
17:32:42  <Stablean> *** Vinnie has started a new company (#15)
17:32:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 230k isnt high on this server
17:32:57  <Benny> whats wrong, land bridges everywhere?
17:33:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes
17:33:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> and canal tricks
17:33:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> the parameter is set to x8
17:33:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> normally x512 or more
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17:33:47  <Benny> the rules do state to keep TF to a minimum
17:33:56  <Benny> !rules
17:33:56  <Stablean> Benny: Rules are at
17:35:53  <skyem123> wow. 16 tile traind
17:35:55  <skyem123> *trains
17:36:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> previous games people kept to their island and managed to get 200 trains on it, imo thats better gameplay
17:36:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> also stationwalking is not allowed and used alot
17:36:44  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> what is statinwalking?
17:36:57  <skyem123> what mark did, i think.
17:37:04  <Stablean> <Vinnie> expanding your station more then needed
17:37:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> to improve the catchment area
17:38:12  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> ok. my stations are ok, or?
17:39:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah, i don't think this game anybody will get a problem
17:47:14  <Stablean> <skyem123> argh!
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17:47:40  <Stablean> <skyem123> how do i stop a industry from putting cargo into a station?
17:47:42  <Stablean> <V453000> heyo
17:47:44  <Stablean> <V453000> you cant
17:47:45  <skyem123> Hello!
17:47:50  <Stablean> <V453000> only by killing the station
17:48:04  <skyem123> that won't do...
17:48:27  <Stablean> <V453000> no other option
17:51:53  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> have fun maybe we see us tomorror
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17:52:56  <Stablean> <Christoph Stüwe> bb
17:53:05  <Benny> bye
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17:54:21  <skyem123> purr is cheaper than electric rail...
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17:57:29  <V453000> (:
17:57:55  <skyem123> but purr is useless
17:57:57  <skyem123> :-p
17:58:47  <V453000> still good for marking ... but yeah not really the gain of universal rail for ukrs
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18:12:55  <Stablean> <CGW> do you think we'll get a map reset somepoint tonight?
18:13:03  <Stablean> <CGW> ie the next 3 hrs or so
18:13:16  <Benny> no
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18:14:03  <Stablean> <CGW> ok ty, how about 10hrs later?
18:14:39  <Jam35> !date
18:14:39  <Stablean> Jam35: 27 Aug 2001
18:15:25  <Benny> i think the game will probably run for at least some more days
18:15:44  <Stablean> <CGW> oh wow. ok
18:18:39  <Jam35> in the meantime ask the players if they are bored yet
18:19:11  <Jam35> if a consensus is reached maybe something can be done...
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18:19:42  <skyem123> I'm not ready for a reset
18:20:02  <Jam35> there is the answer :)
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18:20:28  <Stablean> <skyem123> hello!
18:20:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
18:20:36  <Stablean> <CGW> I don't want to wreck anyones game, as long as people are enjoying it, it should continue
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18:30:50  <Stablean> <skyem123> dun dun dun!
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19:11:08  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
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20:25:39  <Stablean> <bon> hi again finally :)
20:25:43  <Stablean> <bon> (for a while only tho heh)
20:25:45  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
20:25:59  <Stablean> <bon> mmm 92 million euro.....geeze...where to put that :P
20:26:01  <Stablean> <bon> heheh
20:26:07  <Stablean> <bon> how're you doing there?
20:26:07  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> me :)
20:26:26  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> meh
20:26:32  <Stablean> <bon> heh...well and to think first you seem a bit surprised...but heh...
20:26:46  <Stablean> <bon> that a lot for you now?
20:26:46  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
20:27:01  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thanks :)
20:27:13  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i had to fund a bunch of stuff
20:27:19  <Stablean> <bon> np :)
20:27:29  <Stablean> <bon> I may need a bit funding too but we'll see soon
20:28:03  <Stablean> <bon> seriously what is wrong with this stupid turfing player :|
20:28:21  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> who?
20:28:41  <Stablean> <bon> ehh now it looks like we have two different players that are blocking waters and lands for no reason
20:28:59  <Stablean> <bon> maybe skyem should had left the terraform costs as it used to be
20:29:02  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh  i know what ya mean now
20:29:17  <Stablean> <bon> I've only really had to terraform like maybe what 5-10 tiles ever since I started here
20:29:29  <Stablean> <bon> oh well at least skyem would know for the next game he makes eh?
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20:29:44  <Stablean> <SoleOfSoetoro> t
20:29:50  <Stablean> <SoleOfSoetoro> the real question is
20:29:52  <Stablean> <bon> oh looks who just showed up...been a while so I'll just say hi there jam35 :)
20:30:02  <Stablean> <SoleOfSoetoro> what to do with the waffle question
20:30:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
20:30:31  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi jam
20:30:48  <skyem123> all my freight engines are now brush class 92
20:31:19  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...heh nice :)
20:31:27  <skyem123> lots more profit
20:31:35  <Stablean> <bon> I'm staying with what I have tho since it seem relatively stable as it is
20:31:46  <Stablean> <bon> may add some food trains tho.. dairy doesn't have anything being picked up
20:31:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> got milk?
20:32:14  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher TONS of milk from 'blue dairyfarm no.2' station indeed
20:32:26  <Stablean> <bon> its only the dairy plant itself that has milk dropped off but no food picked up yet
20:32:28  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> nice
20:32:28  <Stablean> <Mupama> restart..plz...
20:32:30  <Stablean> <bon> :)
20:32:46  <Stablean> <bon> mupama..learn how to play a bit more nicely and maybe it'll be better for you eh?
20:33:09  <Stablean> <Mupama> hmm..
20:33:24  <Stablean> <bon> I'm surprised the normal terraform costs aren't on
20:33:31  <Stablean> <bon> you would had gone WAY bankrupt trying to do that otherwise
20:33:37  <Stablean> <bon> :)
20:33:42  <skyem123> what is "normal" costs
20:33:58  <Stablean> <SoleOfSoetoro> basecost adjusements
20:34:16  <Stablean> <SoleOfSoetoro> its like a few million.
20:34:26  <Stablean> <bon> you'll have to ask for a copy of the basecost parameters from the prior maps
20:34:27  <skyem123> i know. i wonder what the setting is
20:34:39  <Stablean> <bon> but it was could not even afford to blow up water in first place
20:34:57  <Stablean> <Mupama> restart plz~
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20:35:12  <Stablean> <bon> could reset your company if you want
20:35:18  <Stablean> <Mupama> everybody restart agree?
20:35:27  <skyem123> Nope not me.
20:35:30  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> no
20:35:34  <Stablean> <bon> nope..I still have many things I could do in my area
20:36:17  <Jam35> e.g. raise/lower land x64, clear water x256
20:36:32  <Stablean> <bon> ah.. x64 .. well there you go skyem :)
20:36:37  <Jam35> is usual ish
20:36:52  <Stablean> <bon> yeah I guess anything *except* below x5 sounds reasonable..right?
20:37:07  <Stablean> <bon> :)
20:37:18  <Jam35> or something similar that makes creating land in water in the many miilions
20:37:28  <Stablean> <bon> aye
20:37:29  <Jam35> *millions
20:37:44  <skyem123> next time i make a map i will make better islands
20:38:02  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...mmm I guess you could...I thought mine seem fine..or I maybe got lucky
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20:40:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> for new map also
20:40:35  <Stablean> <Vinnie> station spread 7
20:40:41  <Stablean> <bon> 7 seem too short
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20:41:35  <skyem123> uhm...
20:41:59  <Stablean> <Vinnie> who is making map?
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20:42:34  <Stablean> <bon> if you make it 7 then that kinda slams some freight stations and most passengers
20:42:44  <Stablean> <Vinnie> \
20:43:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i can make everything except SRNW with 7 tile stations
20:43:24  <Stablean> <Vinnie> would you like 7 tile long train?
20:43:40  <Stablean> <bon> its not the trains I'm after but rather platform alignment and catchment
20:43:43  <Taede> just make it 7
20:43:46  <Stablean> <bon> I sometimes build L shaped stations
20:43:56  <Stablean> <bon> (especially with tight spaces...artic maps shows that)
20:44:04  <Taede> i think it can be changed whith the map running
20:44:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> exacrly
20:44:23  <skyem123> that WILL break some stations...
20:44:27  <Stablean> <bon> taede..if you do 7 then you'll have to keep towns very tiny .. may as well as forget about pax
20:44:37  <Stablean> <Vinnie> but you can use waypoints for a drop stations
20:44:44  <Taede> and making it larger is easier than shrinking it
20:45:34  <Stablean> <Vinnie> but 16 leads to sttion walking from the start
20:45:44  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie not with sensible players
20:46:12  <Stablean> <bon> thats all I can say... forcing the problems with worser players onto better players isn't very helpful anyway
20:47:00  <V453000> k lets make it 4
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20:47:07  <Taede> you also dont need to cover a town with a single station
20:47:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes
20:47:11  <skyem123> erm...
20:47:14  <skyem123> erk...
20:47:21  <Stablean> <bon> taede...what do you mean?
20:47:23  <Taede> you can have tl1-2 trains transfer to grand central station
20:47:33  <V453000> (you should do that in fact)
20:47:43  <Stablean> <bon> do you decide when its supposed to be "grand"?
20:47:49  <Stablean> <bon> 4000+ or what?
20:48:11  <V453000> (:
20:48:20  <V453000> do you need a precise guide or what
20:48:37  <Stablean> <Vinnie> give him a picture of 201
20:48:47  <Stablean> <bon> 200 is too small :)
20:48:47  <Taede> when you need it, depends on many factors
20:49:04  <Taede> 201, is that the 1city whole map one?
20:49:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes
20:49:19  <Stablean> <bon> oh that a map name?
20:49:22  <Stablean> <bon> sorry nevermind then
20:50:13  <Taede>
20:50:39  <Taede> 207's a good one too
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20:53:43  <Stablean> <bon> btw haven't really bothered with delievering gasoline to town on this map now but I guess if next map still has similar costs + ukrs/firs I could probably actually try make a tube-served town with one single terminal station.  done it a bit in past elsewhere
20:54:28  <skyem123> i will lower costs in my next map
20:54:48  <Stablean> <bon> well...if you're going to raise another cost then I guess I'll take that
20:55:02  <Stablean> <bon> :)
20:55:07  <skyem123> removing urban monorail and purr
20:55:27  <Stablean> <bon> that I'm ok with
20:55:31  <skyem123> no other price will be risen. (i don't want to get lynched)
20:56:03  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...well what I meant was if you're going to raise the TF costs 'back up there' then I wouldn't mind the revised track cost perhaps
20:56:05  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
20:56:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> why not copy the basecost parameters from previous stable games?
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20:58:11  <Stablean> <bon> btw skyem I finally decided to get a class 92 too ;)
20:58:27  <Stablean> <bon> will be two soon :p
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21:02:39  <skyem123> £150 per track
21:02:45  <skyem123> is that better?
21:03:00  <Stablean> <bon> hmmm.... would 300 be a compromise?
21:03:15  <Stablean> <bon> but either is ok :)
21:03:24  <skyem123> well, in normal openttd it is 90
21:03:44  <skyem123> so 150 IS the compromisr
21:03:47  <skyem123> so 150 IS the compromise
21:04:05  <Stablean> <bon> skyem heh no need to repeat
21:04:13  <Stablean> <bon> sure lets try that (if thats just for plain rail?)
21:04:43  <Stablean> <bon> and hmm does anyone want to leave bridge at 12 or shorten it a bit to 10?
21:05:06  <Stablean> <bon> I've always only needed 2-8 for most part
21:06:06  <skyem123> i like 12.
21:06:24  <Stablean> <bon> ok np..just had to ask anyway
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21:07:38  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...btw there is one tiny thing that shouldn't had been on map maybe disable 'towns allowed to build roads' for the sake of a city grower?
21:07:49  <skyem123> yes
21:07:53  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
21:08:15  <skyem123> anything else?
21:08:49  <Stablean> <bon> there a point in the dwe stations?
21:09:00  <skyem123> ?
21:09:02  <Stablean> <bon> I've always only touched the japanstation or industrystation tiles
21:09:20  <Stablean> <bon> and I haven't seen anyone else even using either dwe or vast here
21:09:32  <Stablean> <bon> but thats up to you
21:09:34  <skyem123> for other people?
21:09:45  <Stablean> <bon> would make for easier shorter list to scroll through anyway
21:11:45  <skyem123> can do without dwe
21:12:05  <Stablean> <bon> that would remove 10+ slots from the station menu so thanks a LOT 0_o
21:13:03  <Stablean> <bon> I guess dwe is just more for these people that fancy making real-looking stations as much space as it uses up
21:13:13  <Stablean> <bon> I could be wrong tho..I never saw any reason to touch it
21:13:55  <Stablean> <bon> oh yeah skyem this is just optional but perhaps tell the generator to plant a wee bit less trees? ;)
21:14:01  <Stablean> <bon> heh
21:14:18  <skyem123> how?
21:17:23  <Stablean> <bon> hmmm its a bit different than what I'm used to and for some weird reason the tree option is grayed out
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21:17:31  <Stablean> <bon> so I dunno sorry..I guess I'll leave that to you
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21:19:06  <happy_> hi  all  how    the  game  going
21:19:16  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh doing too well here happy :)
21:19:18  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy
21:19:30  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> it's goin :)
21:19:52  <Stablean> <bon> I'll admit I'm having fun being able to manage short trains finally
21:19:55  <Stablean> <bon> but no comment :)
21:20:07  <happy_> how  things    wood
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21:24:51  <Stablean> <bon> he seem to be doing somewhat ok as far as I can see? :)
21:25:17  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> I'm good thanks, you happy?
21:25:31  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> game is ok, still learning this FIRS stuff
21:25:45  <Stablean> <bon> <hopes I get a refinery on 'my' island on next map but wouldn't complain!
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21:28:00  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher least FIRS lets you decide how much cargo you want to unload which is friendly in a way right? :)
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21:28:18  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> it does?
21:28:30  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher let me make a comparsion so you understand..
21:29:16  <Stablean> <bon> firs steelmill = you can drop ore and/or coal at whim .. ecs steelmill = it'll complain if you only deliver just one alone ... pbi mill = umm I forgot as never ever touched it again
21:29:34  <Stablean> <bon> and thats only one industry, theres many others to compare with
21:29:53  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok I thought you meant there were train orders like unload x tons
21:30:07  <Stablean> <bon> ahh sorry no :)
21:30:41  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i like this setup its just complicated until you learn what wants what, produces what, etc.
21:31:11  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> and I can't look at a building and say for sure what it is
21:31:19  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> or a farm
21:31:49  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher ahh...well that may take you a while but there is actually a pattern to it
21:32:11  <Stablean> <bon> the only thing I do want to yell at andy about is how the stone+sand and clay quarries for no reason share exact same shape and layout >_<
21:32:45  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well easier to use a template
21:33:11  <Stablean> <bon> but anything one plant with several silo towers is a sugar refinery .. farm with red barn is for milk but farm with greenish-roof barn is for grain .. etc
21:33:45  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah just need to learn how they look, haven't played this set enough to know them well
21:34:00  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> anyway gotta go for now
21:34:06  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cyas, have fun
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21:35:36  <Stablean> <bon> did take me a while to figure out the farms and sometimes I almost pick wrong one tho
21:35:40  <Stablean> <bon> so its not only him :)
21:36:27  <Stablean> <bon> skyem one thing I'll liek to mention if you don't mind.. I think ukrs2+addon for a change from NUTS doesn't seem too bad (I hate the non-uk things showing up in buy list but wouldn't complain heh)
21:37:13  <Stablean> <bon> anyway I need to afk for a bit re frying supper etc
21:37:19  <Stablean> <bon> (may check irc soon tho)
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22:01:52  <skyem123> hmmm
22:02:06  <skyem123> FIRS does not like islands
22:04:18  <skyem123> well, i have another map.
22:04:29  <skyem123> i'm not sure how well it will play
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22:07:02  <skyem123> hmmm
22:07:28  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hello you anti-social types :)
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22:07:45  <Stablean> <V453000> mu
22:07:51  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hy
22:08:00  <skyem123> i need a good islands hightmap
22:08:11  <Stablean> <V453000> heightmap? fer wat :d
22:08:19  <skyem123> another map
22:08:27  <Stablean> <V453000> that doesnt explain why heightmap
22:08:49  <skyem123> making islands is difficult to get right
22:08:57  <Stablean> <V453000> the current ones are kind of okay
22:09:09  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont see a reason for a heightmap
22:09:11  <skyem123> "Kind Of"
22:09:20  <Stablean> <V453000> okay enough to me
22:12:43  <Stablean> <V453000> also creating random heightmaps is probably a bit more ass than pressing generate button in game
22:12:45  <Stablean> <V453000> just saying
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22:16:16  <Stablean> <V453000> if you have some, I can check the map in the morning
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22:25:44  <skyem123> skyem123's map 3.0 (Testing): (Please do not use until tested by V453000)
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22:31:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> inflation in your new map
22:32:26  <skyem123> oops
22:33:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> and still station spread 16, but that can change ingame
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22:34:31  <skyem123> we should have a vote
22:35:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> for what?
22:36:10  <skyem123> between (and including) 16 and 8. then get the mean average. (vote for station spread)
22:36:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i vote 1
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22:36:58  <skyem123> between (and including) 16 and 8.
22:37:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 16 will mean that a station can bridge continents/islands in your map
22:37:49  <skyem123> depends...
22:38:57  <skyem123> on how wide the gaps between islands are
22:39:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> well you have the same settings as this map and you expect a more entertaining game
22:41:26  <skyem123> someone should make a different map! I like the settings I have chosen. I shouldn't be "THE CREATOR OF ALL MAPS".
22:42:30  <Stablean> <CGW> all these sets on the giant great britain map
22:43:36  <skyem123> ?
22:43:57  <skyem123> skyem123's map 3.0 (Testing): (Please do not use until tested by V453000). Changelog:
22:44:24  <Stablean> <CGW> that should be the next map
22:44:50  <skyem123> what map?
22:45:32  <skyem123> skyem123's map 3.1 (Testing): (Please do not use until tested by V453000). Changelog:
22:45:44  <skyem123> can you give a link?
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22:46:40  <Stablean> <bon> hi
22:47:10  <Stablean> <CGW> i will look for it, i've played it before its a giant map of the UK semi-realistic
22:47:15  <skyem123> Hello!
22:49:10  <Stablean> <CGW> could this be it? sorry havent played for ages
22:49:21  <Stablean> <bon> anyone know if a single hotel is supposed to be able to bed 1000+ people at once?
22:49:23  <Stablean> <bon> :)
22:52:20  <skyem123> irl or in openttd
22:52:26  <Stablean> <bon> openttd? :)
22:53:16  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well if its a heartbreak hotel they might rent per hour *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*
22:53:47  <Stablean> <bon> you better get yourself over to Gudinghead and try rent one tiny room for yourself then :P
22:54:15  <Stablean> <bon> just upgraded my tubes to try keep up....I wonder what the max limit could be :-s
22:54:17  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i prefer Rintbridge
22:54:39  <Stablean> <bon> thats not even a hotel... only 40 beds blah? :P
22:54:42  <Stablean> <bon> heheheh
22:54:55  <skyem123> yay. London underground FTW
22:55:04  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yeah but they got those coin operated "massage" beds
22:55:34  <Stablean> <bon> skyem...yeah and on the next map I hope I can make up a more proper town (mail+gasoline served to it too) ... to see how far I could grow a circular tube network inside it ;)
22:56:17  <skyem123> i added extra industries in the new map.
22:57:39  <Stablean> <bon> mm is it ok to blow up a company thats pretty much doing nothing ... and would take eons to finally hit the debt limit?
22:58:15  <skyem123> is there an admin on?
22:58:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> it's ok with me as long as they aren't playing but i'm just a peon
22:58:49  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher mm I was talking about jubin
22:59:01  <Stablean> <bon> the industries have long disappeared and that one truck looks silly
23:00:31  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> is there a FIRs chart on the wiki?
23:03:10  <Stablean> <bon> all I know is the list on site but it seem to be down and noone can tell what happened to it
23:03:34  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> k thanks
23:03:56  <Stablean> <bon> its (or was) the site for FIRS/HEQS
23:04:14  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> doh!
23:05:06  <skyem123> between (and including) 16 and 8.
23:05:15  <skyem123>
23:05:26  <skyem123> (miscopy)
23:08:02  <Stablean> <bon> heh thats funny...
23:08:16  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> what is?
23:08:20  <Stablean> <bon> one industry that can't be bought anymore past 1901 ... its still sitting there stubbornly alive
23:08:30  <Stablean> <bon> first saw it in 1900 ... a bit surprised its still there now :)
23:08:53  <Taede> <- first go at map for this server
23:08:56  <Taede> have a look
23:09:48  <Stablean> <bon> anyway...have a few other minor things to do so will go off from here for a bit now
23:09:54  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya
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23:17:44  <skyem123> well, i have to go very soon.
23:18:38  <Taede> im off to bed as well
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23:18:44  <Stablean> <paraszt> hi
23:18:46  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya
23:18:48  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
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23:22:53  <skyem123> i need to go. goodbye!
23:23:00  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya
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23:32:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ok gotta go, cyas
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23:53:33  <Stablean> <Sinramen> did not finish yet....omg~
23:54:23  <Stablean> <Sinramen> city 3769
23:54:39  <Stablean> <Sinramen> 3,769 people..
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