Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 3rd November 2013:
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00:00:05  <Stablean> <Vegavis> I messed up signals :(
00:01:16  <Stablean> <Vegavis> what do I do about wrecked trains?
00:01:28  <Stablean> <Benny> wait for a bit and they'll go away
00:02:55  <Stablean> <bon> why did you buy that crap of a company? heh
00:03:27  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> at worst I can sell of the track
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00:07:53  <Stablean> <Benny> oh wow i'm an idiot
00:08:16  <Stablean> <Benny> the best way to utilize the low station spread is a multi-sided terminus
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00:25:18  <Stablean> <bon> at least maybe I can try one small town with the doubledeck trams atm
00:31:29  <Stablean> <bon> meh...I knew it...the buses are way too tiny
00:31:31  <Stablean> <bon> where is the tubes damn it
00:31:33  <Stablean> <bon> :->
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00:39:15  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> how do I give several trains shared orders?
00:43:18  <Stablean> <bon> anyway going a bit now again
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00:47:54  <Stablean> <Benny> newbies: there are two ways
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00:48:08  <Stablean> <Benny> holding ctrl while cloning another train
00:48:24  <Stablean> <Benny> and holding ctrl while copying the orders from another train
00:59:43  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> how do you copy orders?
01:00:54  <Stablean> <Benny> open a train's order menu
01:00:57  <Stablean> <Benny> select go to
01:01:01  <Stablean> <Benny> click another train
01:01:19  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> thnkx
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01:07:42  <Stablean> <Shnupz> hi
01:07:46  <Stablean> <Benny> hello
01:07:54  <Stablean> <Vegavis> hi
01:08:16  <Stablean> <Shnupz> holy shit the lag when I zoom out....
01:08:22  <Stablean> <Shnupz> seems like this one's been a good game
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01:10:04  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Joe
01:10:15  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Sorry bout the maglev thing last game
01:10:25  <Stablean> <Shnupz> can't believe I didn't think of itbefore
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01:13:25  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Sinramen...
01:13:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> So much PBS :O
01:13:49  <Stablean> <Benny> he doesnt seem to chat
01:13:59  <Stablean> <Benny> broke server rules by building land bridges too
01:14:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> :O
01:14:25  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> no prob
01:14:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> did you summon the almighty admin?
01:14:39  <Stablean> <Shnupz> To smite his bridges of evil?
01:15:03  <Stablean> <Benny> naw
01:15:23  <Benny> !rules
01:15:23  <Stablean> Benny: Rules are at
01:15:31  <Stablean> <Shnupz> to be fair you have to enter a URL letter for letter into your browser to see the rules
01:16:07  <Stablean> <Benny> use irc dummkopf
01:16:14  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Hi Joe, btw
01:16:17  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> HI
01:17:08  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Benny
01:17:13  <Stablean> <Benny> yes
01:17:17  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Your use of prios is confusing the fuck out of me
01:17:23  <Stablean> <Benny> where
01:17:26  <Stablean> <Shnupz> evrywhere
01:17:29  <Stablean> <Benny> and ill explain or fix
01:17:32  <Stablean> <Benny> oh
01:17:32  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I understand basic ones
01:18:03  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but yours makes your ML look both sexy and confusing and awesome
01:18:27  <Stablean> <Benny> i dont see how im doing prios different than others >_<
01:18:39  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Most don't use prios on the welcome server
01:18:41  <Stablean> <Benny> but thanks for that i guess :>
01:18:51  <Stablean> <Benny> well i cant stand disturbing ML traffic
01:19:01  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Though it's pretty normal for ottdcoop I guess
01:19:03  <Stablean> <Benny> waves... *shudder*
01:19:14  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I really should learn to build them huh?
01:19:20  <Stablean> <Benny> prios?
01:19:22  <Stablean> <Benny> yes
01:19:24  <Stablean> <Shnupz> yeah
01:19:46  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I can do the basic entry > two way combo > two way exit
01:20:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but that's about it
01:20:19  <Stablean> <Benny> ill teach you the basic one we use
01:20:25  <Stablean> <Benny> look at coal drop
01:20:47  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Found it
01:20:53  <Stablean> <Shnupz> thanks btw
01:21:12  <Stablean> <Benny> thats the basic gist of it
01:21:30  <Stablean> <Shnupz> so
01:21:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> trains on the strait track
01:21:42  <Stablean> <Shnupz> hit the one way signals
01:21:56  <Stablean> <Shnupz> which in turn causes the ones facing backwads to go red
01:22:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> :O
01:22:12  <Stablean> <Benny> exactly
01:22:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> so it stays red until strait train passes?
01:22:42  <Stablean> <Benny> yes
01:23:04  <Stablean> <Shnupz> :O
01:23:07  <Stablean> <Shnupz> amazing
01:23:18  <Stablean> <Shnupz> you made it seem so simple, thanks man/woman/other
01:23:24  <Stablean> <Benny> amazingly useful
01:23:27  <Stablean> <Benny> no problem
01:25:45  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Btw tried Locomotion
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01:25:52  <Stablean> <Shnupz> ...yuck *shudders*
01:26:14  <Stablean> <Benny> lol
01:26:17  <Stablean> <Benny> its certainly different
01:26:28  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Curvy tracks and the way bridges worked are cool
01:26:43  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but everything else is horribly slow and only one way signals
01:26:51  <Stablean> <Shnupz> *block signals
01:26:53  <Stablean> <Benny> would definitely need an "OpenLocomotion" fork
01:27:03  <Stablean> <Shnupz> yup
01:27:10  <Stablean> <Shnupz> OpenLoco would be really cool
01:27:41  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Locomotion engine with all the awesome signals, multiplaer etc of OTTD
01:27:52  <Stablean> <Shnupz> *RCT2 engine, I guess
01:28:06  <Stablean> <Benny> and then we'd make a OpenLocoCoop :>
01:28:25  <Stablean> <Shnupz> And it would be awesome
01:29:14  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Seriously, all that game needs are depots, vehicle cloning
01:29:24  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> Whats the key to expand / multistop bind when adding a station near an existing?
01:29:44  <Stablean> <Shnupz> no idea mate
01:30:02  <Stablean> <Benny> dont quite understand
01:30:08  <GOT> is it control?
01:30:36  <GOT> there is a way to expand an existing station, it its enabled
01:30:53  <GOT> instead of creating a 2nd station next to the first
01:31:02  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Benny, with Sladinghead Mines coal pickup
01:31:12  <Stablean> <Shnupz> that loop system is amazing
01:31:42  <Stablean> <Benny> :o
01:31:44  <Stablean> <Benny> thank you
01:32:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> its... so mesmerizing to watch
01:32:16  <Stablean> <Shnupz> like clockwork, I guess
01:32:22  <Stablean> <Benny> it could probably be improved because trains dont always match up properly
01:32:48  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Make the depot a little closer to the end of the loop,
01:33:02  <Stablean> <Shnupz> allowing faster speeds entering/exiting?
01:33:06  <Stablean> <Benny> hey thats actually not a bad idea
01:34:35  <GOT> yea, its control left click <>
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01:35:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> benny, amke that depot one space back
01:35:35  <Stablean> <Shnupz> the track will be longer but the trains faster
01:35:49  <Stablean> <Benny> where to
01:35:59  <Stablean> <Shnupz> argh
01:36:05  <Stablean> <Shnupz> can't place signs
01:36:08  <GOT> make a sign ?
01:36:14  <GOT> pffft
01:36:20  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I need to be in a company for that
01:36:34  <GOT> one company is not passworded
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01:36:48  <Stablean> <Shnupz> ooooh
01:36:52  <Stablean> <Shnupz> thanks irc guy :)
01:36:59  <GOT> yea that one
01:37:07  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yeah like that benny
01:37:39  <Stablean> <Benny> i think i need a NOT-gate in here for conditional waiting at the entry signal before the station
01:37:42  <Stablean> <bon> mm just checking on things...going sleep now anyway
01:37:57  <Stablean> <Shnupz> awww, well cya Bon
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01:38:28  <Stablean> <Shnupz> uh
01:38:42  <Stablean> <Benny> yeah that one's full of trains
01:39:06  <Stablean> <Benny> just gonna move them over
01:39:25  <Stablean> <Benny> ugh
01:39:28  <Stablean> <Benny> goooo
01:39:30  <Stablean> <Benny> christ
01:39:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> want some help with it?
01:39:43  <Stablean> <Benny> no im good
01:40:25  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> oops
01:40:27  <Stablean> <Benny> okay what in the hell
01:40:40  <Stablean> <Benny> i am missing something here and i dont know what :P
01:40:42  <Stablean> <Shnupz> what have you done minion!?
01:40:49  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Those were people!
01:41:01  <Stablean> <Shnupz> With lives and families and naaaaah
01:41:03  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> now they are toast
01:41:05  <Stablean> <Shnupz> just kidding
01:41:11  <Stablean> <Benny> bacon families
01:41:21  <Stablean> <Shnupz> lol that was a borderlands 2 quote
01:41:35  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but bacon families will have to do
01:41:57  <Stablean> <Benny> i realized "minion" was a BL2 quote but i missed the rest lol
01:42:39  <Stablean> <Shnupz> It's from the first story mission where you have to take claptrap
01:42:39  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> I was guessing despicable me
01:42:42  <Stablean> <Shnupz> to the Ice Sickle
01:43:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> When you kill the first lot of bandits along the way
01:43:02  <Stablean> <Shnupz> he says that
01:43:12  <Stablean> <Benny> yeah i remember it
01:43:22  <Stablean> <Benny> i can even hear his annoying voice in my head
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01:43:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> lol
01:43:39  <Stablean> <Benny> had lots of fun with that game
01:43:42  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> its filling back up
01:43:56  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Yeah BL2 was a blast
01:44:02  <Stablean> <Benny> oops, thanks griffin
01:44:16  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I shoulld probably place the dlc I [aid for though
01:44:42  <Stablean> <Shnupz> yay! Depot is gone :P
01:46:33  <Stablean> <Shnupz> What's witht he mono trck?
01:46:47  <Stablean> <Benny> wanna see if i can put a NOT-gate in here to optimize further
01:46:58  <Stablean> <Shnupz> brb gonna look up not gates
01:47:12  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I think he is just indicating it isn't being used other than for signalling purposes
01:47:26  <Stablean> <Benny> well no i need an actual not gate
01:47:30  <GOT> <
01:47:41  <Stablean> <Benny> as in when there are /not/ any trains coming, keep waiting
01:47:49  <Stablean> <Benny> when a train comes, go to depot
01:48:09  <Stablean> <Benny> problem is ive never used them
01:48:12  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Sorry I missed all that, I googled it
01:48:18  <Stablean> <Shnupz> But I understand
01:48:24  <Stablean> <Shnupz> it inverts the signal...?
01:48:26  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> <
01:48:36  <Stablean> <Benny> yes
01:48:55  <Stablean> <Benny> er
01:49:01  <Stablean> <Benny> why's the PF trap breaking
01:49:15  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> lol
01:49:27  <Stablean> <Shnupz> That's a universal rail
01:49:33  <Stablean> <Benny> yes
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01:49:40  <Stablean> <Shnupz> and there is a second signal on there
01:49:50  <Stablean> <Benny> it doesnt matter
01:49:52  <Stablean> <Shnupz> probably canceled the first one out somehow
01:50:02  <Stablean> <Benny> what the heck
01:50:36  <Stablean> <Shnupz> soecial characteristic of the rail itself...?
01:50:54  <Stablean> <Shnupz> *special
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01:52:32  <Stablean> <Shnupz> BENNY
01:52:40  <Stablean> <Benny> what
01:52:42  <Stablean> <Shnupz> THERE IS A BLOCK UP FURTHER ALONG THE LINE
01:52:48  <Stablean> <Benny> where
01:52:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> err...
01:52:58  <Stablean> <Benny> oh
01:53:00  <Stablean> <Benny> ugh
01:53:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Trartston MInes
01:53:06  <Stablean> <Benny> that bloody thing keeps locking up
01:53:17  <Stablean> <Shnupz> Your station has done goofed
01:53:19  <Stablean> <Benny> i have another thats exactly the same
01:53:21  <Stablean> <Benny> and it works fine there
01:53:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what's the use for an overflow, if your station isn't full line capacity to begin with?
01:53:58  <Stablean> <Benny> i dunno lol
01:54:00  <Stablean> <Shnupz> maybe the slopes are affecting train speed
01:54:02  <Stablean> <Benny> i suck at this game
01:54:06  <Stablean> <Shnupz> therefore fucking with the signals
01:54:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> LOL
01:54:43  <Stablean> <Shnupz> you know benny...
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01:54:49  <Stablean> <Shnupz> I don't want to be a dick
01:55:01  <Stablean> <Shnupz> but the guy using PBS is doing way better than you
01:55:09  <Stablean> <Shnupz> not a single blockage :D
01:55:23  <Stablean> <Benny> well to quote v453000
01:55:29  <Stablean> <Benny> people who play this game for realism or money
01:55:31  <Stablean> <Benny> are dumb
01:55:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's not what V would like you to say
01:55:45  <Stablean> <Benny> its about the fun of creating a big rail network to me :)
01:55:55  <Stablean> <Shnupz> :)
01:56:05  <Stablean> <Shnupz> everybody, join in on the smiles :)
01:56:11  <Stablean> <Benny> :)
01:56:41  <GOT>  9-Vinylphenanthrene ?
01:57:47  <Stablean> <Benny> troy: trying to innovate and not just copy the same layout tbh
01:57:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> good
01:57:57  <Stablean> <Benny> but apparently this one doesnt work haha
01:58:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ;)
01:58:13  <Stablean> <Benny> problems arise when trains want to enter from the rear and front at the same time
01:58:16  <Stablean> <Benny> grr
01:58:19  <Stablean> <Benny> gotta fix it later
01:58:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yet, you still do not change it ;)
01:58:21  <Stablean> <Benny> have to go
01:58:29  <Stablean> <Shnupz> cya BEnny :)
01:58:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
01:58:50  <Stablean> <Benny> later!
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02:03:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, 9-vinylphenanthrene, aka V453000
02:04:19  <GOT> <> ?
02:04:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> who is this even?
02:05:18  <GOT> <>
02:06:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh,
02:06:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> GriffinOneTwo?
02:06:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> = GOT?
02:07:04  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> yea
02:08:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, that was mysterious for a moment
02:08:41  <GOT> (Shrug)
02:11:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Sinramen, your delivered cargo is experiencing variability: it is technically not in control
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02:12:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where's happy btw?
02:15:21  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> Do you have 5 trains stopped in the SladingHead Mines Depot on purpose?
02:16:32  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> Forgot to release them after playing wiht the logic?
02:16:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Benny is gone, GOT
02:17:26  <GOT> Well, I guess I'm just talking to myself then
02:17:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I guess you are, yeah
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02:28:58  <Stablean> <Vegavis> night night
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03:07:44  <GOT> ahh you fided the stuck trains
03:08:31  <GOT> fixed even
03:08:46  <Stablean> <Benny> me?
03:08:51  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> yea
03:09:09  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> that were in slading head depot
03:15:21  <Stablean> <Benny> finally it works
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05:28:12  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
05:28:31  <Stablean> <Sinramen> hi~
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09:29:08  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh...could someone give sinramen a good headslap? -_-
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09:34:41  <Stablean> <bon> hi griffin
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09:37:05  <Stablean> <bon> hi jam35 :)
09:37:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi there
09:37:15  <Stablean> <bon> how doing?
09:37:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> fine ty
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09:38:04  <GOT> ~
09:38:26  <Stablean> <bon> so mm yeah you probably saw what I just said a few minutes ago? ^_^
09:38:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> I have a good mind to remove that company
09:38:48  <Stablean> <bon> got no problem with that :)
09:39:06  <Stablean> <bon> I'll probably remove my sign soon as it'll be moot
09:39:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> 99.9% sure there is a money cheat involved
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09:41:48  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
09:41:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> morning
09:41:58  <Stablean> <bon> hi there too :)
09:42:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> V look !here
09:42:30  <Stablean> <V453000> o_O
09:42:36  <Stablean> <V453000> isnt water tf cost at max
09:42:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> no way can they get THAT much money
09:42:45  <Stablean> <bon> canal tiles? noone really knows
09:42:47  <Stablean> <V453000> probably terraformed the ground
09:43:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> to make water?
09:43:09  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> yea, drop below level, then open one sopt to wter
09:43:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> no way
09:43:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> it was 2 lines yesterday
09:43:33  <Stablean> <V453000> myeah there wasnt water beforehand
09:43:39  <Stablean> <V453000> I mean wasnt ground
09:44:14  <Stablean> <V453000> but how much does a canal cost
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09:44:20  <Stablean> <bon> not as much
09:44:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> it's raised up
09:44:25  <Stablean> <V453000> yep
09:44:27  <Stablean> <V453000> clearly canals
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09:44:33  <Stablean> <bon> but seeing ships are disabled you could probably jack up the canal prices too
09:44:35  <Stablean> <bon> just a thought
09:44:37  <Stablean> <V453000> I will just make sure to raise canal praces
09:44:37  <Stablean> <V453000> ye
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09:45:11  <Stablean> <bon> heh my pax line finally now looks more like a commuter one
09:45:17  <Stablean> <bon> getting every shorter headways :)
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09:49:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> no use of canal tiles can do that
09:49:15  <Stablean> <bon> ok that theory went out the window then...cheers anyway :)
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10:02:15  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> hmm, that lad in nolonger under water
10:02:34  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> err land
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10:22:54  <GOT> Whats the EndGame for Map Restart?
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10:29:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> end of game is usually between 2100-2200
10:34:05  <Stablean> <bon> btw thanks for kicking that abusive company dead
10:34:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> they deserved it
10:34:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> just a shame I couldn't use their money to restore the land
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10:41:46  <Stablean> <bon> mm yeah
10:42:33  <Stablean> <bon> at least it looks a lot less cluttered over there now
10:44:59  <Stablean> <bon> hehehehehe....geeze.....
10:45:13  <Stablean> <bon> jam35...check sign to you
10:45:20  <Stablean> <bon> thats a funny thing of what happens to bus/truck routes touching cities
10:45:22  <Stablean> <bon> :)
10:45:40  <Stablean> <bon> almost touching the gold mine too
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11:25:23  <Stablean> <bon> griffin just what the hell are you doing?
11:25:49  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> trying to make something where it doesn't fit / work
11:26:19  <Stablean> <bon> well it was working before so not sure what you're trying to do now? :s
11:26:50  <GOT> the resources disappeared, after i got it layed out ok
11:28:02  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> Have a crack at it, do something useful with the Lintbourough Farm
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12:20:02  <Jam35> oh, did your network disappear?
12:22:42  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh....
12:22:45  <Stablean> <bon> *scratches head8
12:22:55  <Stablean> <bon> that stupid 'new' powerplant planted itself where I wanted a *** station
12:22:57  <Stablean> <bon> silly :-s
12:23:04  <Stablean> <bon> oh well need think for a moment :->
12:31:48  <Stablean> <bon> well looks like my island is growing a bit finally
12:31:58  <Stablean> <bon> got new farm network in :)
12:32:09  <Stablean> <bon> just have to bother dealing with the coppers+rubbers later
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12:36:20  <Stablean> <bon> still could use some of these Garratt or Brush Type 4 tho ;)
12:38:38  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh no banks on island? why always THAT -_-
12:38:58  <Stablean> <bon> oh well later anyway..going eat/etc
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12:46:44  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> Jam, what are you foing at X ?
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13:08:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
13:08:55  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> h
13:08:58  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> hi
13:09:12  <Stablean> <Speedy> hey
13:12:52  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> does anyone get annoyed if I dump some passengers in the depot and leave them there?
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13:52:52  <Speedy> acs you there?
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14:01:08  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
14:01:11  <Stablean> <Benny> hello
14:01:51  <skyem123> hello
14:02:06  <Speedy> hi
14:02:20  <Stablean> <V453000> hihihi
14:02:24  <Stablean> <Benny> oh yay the land bridge guy's company is gone
14:02:38  <Stablean> <V453000> hm :)
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14:17:52  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
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14:36:00  <Stablean> <bon> hi again
14:41:28  <Stablean> <bon> what you been working on to need a lot of expenses jam35? :P
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14:45:42  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> does this game end at 2050?
14:45:48  <Stablean> <bon> not quite
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14:48:19  <V453000> !date
14:48:19  <Stablean> V453000:  6 Nov 2049
14:49:02  <Stablean> <bon> you kinda still have quite too much to learn yet so...use your time on that eh? :)
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14:51:33  <Stablean> <bon> and one major thing..pls don't put pickup+dropoff on same platform
14:51:47  <Stablean> <bon> (only exception to that is for pax but mm yeah)
14:52:05  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> what's wrong with pickup and dropoff on same platform?
14:52:28  <Stablean> <bon> how do you have your train waiting to pick up the load without blocking the very trains that should fill it out (aka dropoff)
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14:52:43  <Stablean> <bon> (sure we could go into special junctions/waypoints but thats a complex version)
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14:53:09  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> My trains aren't set to wait to be full. Should they?
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14:54:50  <Stablean> <bon> should have your goods/food trains waiting just for the sake of not losing cargo into black air from letting your station rating get below 51%
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14:55:22  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> ppl would rather wait inside train then on platform (ratins wise)?
14:55:44  <Stablean> <bon> or put it another way... over 51% .. dropping 60 tons of wheat gets you 60 goods theriocally .. but at eg 40% you may get <55 goods instead....
14:55:55  <Stablean> <bon> not exactly that amounts but just to give you an idea of what I mean
14:56:41  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> Is any rating over 51% just as good as any other?
14:57:03  <Stablean> <bon> and ofc town passengers is another matter.. if you get under 30% you can clearly see passengers fleeding away from your platforms :)
14:57:18  <Stablean> <bon> well yeah 51% is the minimum magic number you should always keep
14:57:22  <Stablean> <bon> (if you can..that is)
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15:12:34  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> How do ppl keep slower frieght trains from slowing down passenger trains?
15:13:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> use same speed engines
15:14:14  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> The fastest engines (of intercity type) can't haul general frieght.
15:14:24  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> Do you just use the fastest available frieght engines?
15:14:42  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> in "FAST" category
15:15:25  <Stablean> <bon> newbies...actually...
15:15:46  <Stablean> <bon> what you have to do is stop mixing two very different type of networks as one... sorry if I sound slight bluntly rude as I don't meant that :)
15:15:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> well fast class isn't strong so they accelerate badly
15:16:20  <Stablean> <bon> on the other hand if you eg use the same Dogstar monorail loco to haul both types of freight and pax .. then its probably ok
15:16:56  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> Is there a way to tell frieght trains to use freight tracks other than keeping the networks completely disconnected?
15:17:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> no
15:17:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> maybe some sort of train length sorter
15:17:42  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> So ppl usually build separate freight and passngr networks?
15:17:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes
15:18:07  <Stablean> <bon> and even separate freight lines from each others at times too
15:18:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> I suppose you could use waypoints
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15:19:01  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> but waypoints cost $$ :(
15:19:27  <Stablean> <Jam35> not muvh
15:19:31  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> Although if waypoints save on bridges I guess that's a net win
15:19:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> *much
15:20:04  <Stablean> <bon> really a learning newbie :)
15:20:10  <Stablean> <bon> but mm you're doing ok tbh
15:20:12  <Stablean> <bon> :)
15:20:22  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> mm=?
15:20:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> like it sounds :)
15:20:48  <Stablean> <bon> mm=hmm=umm=[etcetc]
15:20:51  <Stablean> <bon> lot of similar sounds heh
15:21:02  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> oh
15:23:04  <Stablean> <bon> newbie...mind if I make a list of things to point out and post it online .. and you can see what I actually think of what you could try learn about?
15:23:32  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> sure
15:28:10  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> can I ignore the messages saying my trains are very old?
15:28:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes
15:28:26  <Stablean> <bon> I always have that disabled...even with breakdowns on
15:28:29  <Stablean> <bon> it makes no sense anyway :)
15:28:33  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> since breakdowns are turned off
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15:32:10  <Stablean> <V453000> Jam35 wins
15:32:12  <Stablean> <V453000> gg
15:32:14  <Stablean> <V453000> :>
15:32:16  <Stablean> <bon> just a moment newbies..its long to type it out :-s
15:32:26  <Stablean> <bon> oh hi
15:32:26  <Stablean> <bon> ha
15:32:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> wins?
15:32:34  <Stablean> <V453000> not quit new yet :)
15:32:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> lol
15:32:38  <Stablean> <V453000> slugs = wins
15:32:57  <Stablean> <bon> I'm not sure I like slugs tho...the loading time is low but ehh to our own
15:33:27  <Stablean> <Jam35> low capacity is the downside
15:33:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> they load fast
15:33:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> short CL
15:33:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> accelerate well
15:33:44  <Stablean> <V453000> bon is banned
15:33:50  <Stablean> <V453000> reason: utter idiocy
15:33:56  <Stablean> <V453000> you cant just call slugs not awesome
15:34:02  <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt work
15:34:08  <Stablean> <bon> "4x2" is not really that fast but mm
15:34:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> these are the less evolved form tho'...
15:34:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> 4 stages
15:35:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> quick enough
15:35:08  <Stablean> <bon> I do wonder tho... what kind of railtype is 'organic' supposed to resemble anyway? (or does it only show up when purrail is loaded?)
15:35:22  <Stablean> <V453000> jesus cuk
15:35:24  <Stablean> <V453000> fuck
15:35:46  <Stablean> <V453000> do you really assume organic is a railtype there, or ?:D
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15:36:10  <Stablean> <V453000> obviously for your kinds of networks slugs arent useful
15:36:24  <Stablean> <V453000> "networks"
15:36:26  <Stablean> <V453000> is the point :)
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15:38:50  <Stablean> <bon> ok here it is newbies..and pls mind I'm not trying to be rude..just kinda writing a bit too freely ok?
15:39:33  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> ok reading pastebin
15:40:03  <V453000> just read if you want to see how stuff is done :)
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15:42:03  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> flufingway mines used to have a copper mine
15:42:25  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> dunno what happened to it
15:42:27  <Stablean> <bon> ah..I was suspecting something used to exist
15:42:29  <Stablean> <bon> but mm ok :)
15:44:00  <Stablean> <bon> heh....cats -_-
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15:55:58  <Stablean> <bon> going for now anyway
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15:57:11  <Stablean> <V453000> there need to be more cats
15:57:13  <Stablean> <V453000> thats for sure
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16:12:35  <happy_> hi  all
16:20:43  <Speedy> all hi
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16:37:24  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hello and haaaaappy sunday
16:37:38  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  djanxy
16:37:45  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> 'lo
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16:52:16  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> why does flunfingway central not accept goods?
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17:25:07  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> when will this game end?
17:26:45  <Taede> not enough goods-accepting buildings within its catchment area
17:27:18  <Taede> the game ends when theres not really that much more that can be connected, and someone supplies a new map
17:27:21  <Taede> there is no set end
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17:29:14  <Taede> hm, central does seem to accept goods now
17:29:24  <Taede> maybe a building got (re)built by the town
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18:41:27  <skyem123> YAY! I'm back on fast internet and a fast pc
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18:46:04  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> 100 years later flunfingway finally gets its first food elivery. What have they been eating all this time? ;)
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19:00:51  <skyem123> skyem123's Map 3.2: Changelog:
19:01:38  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> is this server going to restart with that map?
19:01:52  <skyem123> depends on what V453000 thinks
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19:03:31  <V453000> !date
19:03:31  <Stablean> V453000:  2 Jul 2068
19:03:35  <V453000> certainly not today
19:03:44  <V453000> and not with UKRS2 and FIRS again
19:03:57  <skyem123> meh. no room for me on the server
19:04:11  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> ISTM it's time for a restart
19:04:23  <V453000> and I (and many others seem to have agreed) already told you the tracks have terrible signals
19:04:32  <skyem123> ok...
19:04:39  <skyem123> i can fix that
19:04:55  <Stablean> <V453000> looks like many people are willing to extend their networks still
19:05:05  <Stablean> <V453000> I would guess somewhere around 2150-2200
19:05:07  <Stablean> <V453000> but lets see
19:05:21  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> what time zone? UTC?
19:05:31  <Stablean> <V453000> that was year not time zone
19:05:57  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> oh so in about a day?
19:06:07  <Stablean> <V453000> +-
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19:07:43  <happy_> hi  v
19:07:50  <happy_> hi  all
19:09:04  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> do people on this server usually play for a while then sign off for a whiole and come back later?
19:09:18  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> presumably so since games last many days?
19:10:32  <Stablean> <V453000> many people here play for months or years
19:10:46  <Stablean> <V453000> does that answer it well enough? :P
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19:19:53  <Stablean> <CGW> reset this server!! restrart in 1900!!
19:20:03  <Stablean> <V453000> or else!!!
19:20:09  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I agree
19:20:27  <Stablean> <V453000> not going to happen this early
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19:42:05  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> Are all the station types identical except for looks?
19:45:36  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> What does a company HQ do?
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20:12:21  <skyem123> I removed the non-default signal graphics from my map.
20:12:43  <skyem123> skyem123's Map 3.3: Changelog:
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20:46:41  <Stablean> <Muel> halo
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20:52:39  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> this one is still going hu
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21:27:06  <happy_> hi  jam
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21:27:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
21:27:33  <happy_> how  things
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21:33:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok thanks
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22:02:35  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> signing off cya
22:02:41  <Stablean> <<GriffinOneTwo>> ~
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22:04:42  <skyem123> I have to go.
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22:04:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
22:05:17  <Stablean> *** bon joined the game
22:05:21  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb  bon
22:05:28  <Stablean> <bon> ty...and meh!
22:06:59  <Stablean> <bon> hows your company anyway?
22:11:01  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bon    i  got  the  sound  set  from  my   transport tycoon deluxe   and the  music   set
22:11:15  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> and  i like  it
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22:15:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  speedy
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22:16:21  <Speedy> hi happy
22:16:34  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
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22:21:15  <Stablean> <bon> at least remind me to not bother with coal/ore on next map if its still using original industries
22:21:30  <Stablean> <bon> but anyway too late to be bothered with current map now ^_^
22:26:04  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bon i  the  sound  ov  your   trans
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22:40:39  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> how on earth did someone get enough $$$ to buy land bridges?
22:40:50  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> those seem to cost like a trillion$ each
22:41:28  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> if  u save   the  muney  up  then   u can doo  that
22:43:12  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> uh most profitable person now makes  million/year. Save for 100 years that's .1 billion.
22:43:22  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:43:26  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> Land bridge costs a trillion
22:43:37  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> if built with "raise land" tool anyway
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22:49:51  <GOT> !rules
22:49:51  <Stablean> GOT: Rules are at
22:50:59  <Stablean> <bon> what the hell...lets have fun with this button...
22:51:21  <Stablean> <bon> heh probably too many fields around now :)
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22:53:03  <Stablean> <bon> and mm trees too maybe
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22:56:10  <Stablean> <bon> and finally some fruits
22:56:24  <Stablean> <bon> well thats it heh
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22:59:05  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh...hey want a good example of really ****ed up network? :)
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22:59:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer
22:59:39  <Stablean> <Mama> when restart ?
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22:59:53  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi all
22:59:55  <Stablean> <bon> happy...check Monwood Valley station nearMonwood
23:00:09  <Stablean> <bon> good example of one single station shutting down too many things from bad signals
23:00:11  <Stablean> <bon> :)
23:00:26  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> when   a  admin  dus  a map  mama
23:00:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
23:00:34  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi wood
23:00:44  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy how goes it?
23:00:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
23:00:50  <Stablean> <bon> <kinda has to wonder what next map is even going to be like :-s
23:00:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  ar  u
23:00:53  <Stablean> <bon> heh
23:00:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
23:01:05  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> good thanks
23:01:11  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> which station bon?
23:01:25  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh nevermind i see it now
23:01:39  <Stablean> <bon> :p
23:01:54  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> anyone got his password to fix it?
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23:02:52  <Stablean> <bon> doubt it...and its a bit late into game just as well anyway
23:04:40  <Stablean> <bon> I would like a fix for the coal mines too but ehh no comment on that :)
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23:04:45  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> could we make a road vehicle crash that train?
23:04:53  <Stablean> <bon> nope woodbutcher
23:05:27  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb djanxy
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23:05:41  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ty
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23:10:03  <Stablean> <bon> ehh..nothing to do till reset so I guess I'm going ..sorry :)
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23:10:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb bon
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23:20:03  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> Can someone advise me on how to get my monorail across the railroad track in its way? Near Medingbury Heights.
23:20:30  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> doo  a sign
23:20:40  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> and  i  have a look
23:21:04  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  ok
23:21:07  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i  see it
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23:21:38  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> the problem is bridges need to be flat and they can only be built in two directions'
23:22:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> at  move  this
23:22:31  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> mov  that  and  i can help  u
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23:25:07  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> you did a few elevation change commands?
23:25:33  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> just  copey  that
23:26:03  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> yeah I can copy those bridges
23:27:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ther u go
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23:30:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> on your  keybord  if  u doo  x  u can see  fro  trees
23:30:51  <Stablean> <Newbies Inc.> I know about hiding trees thnx
23:31:03  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  np

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