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00:03:13 <Stablean> *** Speedy joined the game 00:03:30 <Stablean> <bon> niko btw about that previous map where you had that small coal line with the turnback curve near top... I have no clue why but v453000 deleted you 00:03:36 <Stablean> <bon> just in case you may have wondered what happened 00:03:42 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (processing map took too long) 00:03:42 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (connection lost) 00:04:04 <Stablean> <Niko> I problem, I think I was away for long time 00:04:11 <Stablean> <bon> perhaps 00:04:18 <Stablean> <bon> at least its nice to see you again tho :) 00:04:36 <Stablean> <Niko> :) 00:05:00 <Stablean> <bon> what you working on atm? me I'm slowly redoing my whole network to be one fluid piece with...a lot of wetrail ships expected :P 00:05:02 <Stablean> <bon> fun heh :) 00:05:20 <Stablean> <Niko> I'm building my second railway line 00:05:24 <Stablean> <bon> nice 00:08:46 <Stablean> <bon> where you heading to niko? 00:09:08 <Stablean> <Niko> starland - whitecourt 00:09:35 <Stablean> <bon> oh hmm... 00:09:58 <Stablean> <bon> well as long as you keep that parallel distance (aka don't come any closer) it should work just fine :) 00:10:10 <Stablean> <bon> (I meant .. closer to the wetrails heh) 00:10:20 <Stablean> <Niko> I will, I noticed you are building there 00:10:34 <Stablean> <bon> np...btw you can remove the bridges later .. the rails will be gone by then .. up to you ofc 00:11:00 <Stablean> <bon> as for how to get over the mountain..I'll leave that to you but you probably need two strong or one superstrong loco :) 00:11:10 <Stablean> <bon> (unless....you tunnel heh) 00:11:25 <Stablean> <Niko> I will go for tunnel 00:11:32 <Stablean> <bon> ok one sec... 00:12:50 <Stablean> <bon> niko...see sign 00:12:57 <Stablean> <bon> I made the flat spaces for you just as a freebie :) 00:13:04 <Stablean> <Niko> thanks pal 00:13:35 <Stablean> <bon> yeah..you don't want bore too low otherwise you'll be stuck with a sharp curve.. thats why I started it a bit higher in elevation 00:14:37 <Stablean> <bon> there you go.. one in now :) 00:14:59 <Stablean> <bon> thats for the 2nd one 00:15:05 <Stablean> <Niko> thanks 00:15:05 <Stablean> <bon> one tunnel is a bit of a chokepoint anyway 00:15:27 <Stablean> <bon> have fun with the quarry there :P 00:15:29 <Stablean> <Niko> it is, espeacially that long tunnel 00:15:35 <Stablean> <bon> anyway back to work on wets for me 00:18:40 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 00:18:40 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 00:28:34 <Stablean> *** Anson has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 00:28:44 <Stablean> <Anson> please set !setdef !!!! 00:28:58 <Stablean> <bon> whats setdef anyway? 00:29:16 <Stablean> <Anson> without the eol settings and some others, almost no standard layouts will work 00:29:23 <Stablean> <bon> eol? 00:29:37 <Stablean> <bon> oh you mean these deadend forks etc? 00:30:19 <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... trains consider red twoway signals to be a dead end and try alternate rouites 00:30:31 <Stablean> <bon> ic ok 00:30:41 <Stablean> <Anson> but without the setting, trains just go to the first red signal and block/jam the net 00:30:44 <Stablean> <bon> anyway I need to afk for a bit..will work the wetrails more when I get back one final time 00:31:06 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 00:31:38 <Stablean> <Anson> you can check for the setting by typing in the console "set pf.yapf.rail_fistred_twoway_eol" 00:50:42 <Stablean> *** Speedy joined the game 00:51:30 <Stablean> <Anson> they forgot to call !setdef for the new map, and thus the eol setting is off, causing trains to get stuck at 2way signals 00:53:36 <Stablean> *** Speedy has started a new company (#10) 00:59:36 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (general timeout) 00:59:36 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (connection lost) 01:02:27 <Stablean> *** Niko has joined spectators 01:04:00 <Stablean> *** Niko has left the game (leaving) 01:04:39 <Stablean> *** Speedy joined the game 01:09:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer thats troo 01:10:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> gn all have fun 01:10:44 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 01:11:16 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 01:16:57 <Stablean> *** Pear joined the game 01:17:01 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 01:17:08 <Stablean> <bon> now free for the rest of night..about two hours of it...finally! 01:17:10 <Stablean> <bon> >_< 01:17:44 <Stablean> <bon> anson..its not the house..but the one road tile too btw (re Strome) 01:17:54 <Stablean> <bon> can't raise the water so have to move the slope a bit 01:18:53 <Stablean> <Anson> bon, do you want to build a LLRR, or only a LR ? 01:19:13 <Stablean> <bon> thanks pear..thats all I was needing 01:19:35 <Stablean> <bon> anson..just LR but without getting into the 90 degre curves tho 01:21:27 <Stablean> <Anson> you also could go around the lake for the opposite direction, if you want to avoid the long bridges ... 01:21:54 *** happy_ has quit IRC 01:22:05 <Stablean> <bon> ouch joe???? two at once 01:22:11 <Stablean> <Anson> and TF is really "cheap" on this map ... "only" 64x for land and 128x for water :-) 01:22:49 <Stablean> <bon> :p.... the hard part may be switching trains over..but I could use universal rails temporately for that 01:23:03 <Stablean> <Anson> joe, why didn't you just sell trains instead of deleting them the hard way ? :-) 01:24:06 <Stablean> <Anson> send all trains to depots, then change all rails to wet and the depots to universal, then autoreplace, and release them 01:25:18 <Stablean> <bon> hehe..is joe trying to switch too? 01:25:28 <Stablean> <Anson> that's how we did it with the old universal track grfs before we got nuts and purr :-) 01:25:31 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> trying to switch to what? 01:26:25 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Crashes happened because I was changing the signal spacing on a long stretch and had a couple misclicks along the way 01:26:39 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I should remember to stop all trains for a moment first 01:26:57 <Stablean> <Pear> is there a fast way to stop all trains? 01:27:15 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> the train icon pops up a list of all trains 01:27:17 <Stablean> <bon> pear..yes...lower-right corner of trainlist window 01:27:27 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> he lower right of that has a stop button 01:27:43 <Stablean> <bon> joe...it may not be a stop but more of a 'X' depending what your own client has 01:27:46 <Stablean> <bon> just as a note 01:27:56 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> ok 01:28:03 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> mines an x 01:28:10 <Stablean> <Pear> x here too 01:28:29 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> i just meant a button to stop, not a little stop sign 01:28:40 <Stablean> <bon> anyway back to long work for me 01:34:04 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> woot loan paid back 01:40:42 <Stablean> <bon> hmmm niko sem to have an odd transfer timetable rather than just sending both trains to the kiln itself 01:40:49 <Stablean> <bon> oh well..I guess I'll ask him about it tomorrow 01:45:47 <Stablean> *** Pear has left the game (leaving) 01:53:12 <Stablean> <bon> anson so what you spending yearly constructions on eh? :) 01:53:51 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, i started building a hub in the mountains :-) 01:53:57 <Stablean> <bon> ahh :) 01:54:08 <Stablean> <bon> I'm doing just ok with crude non-flat T junctions for now.. 01:54:18 <Stablean> <bon> although I did sign one that has bit oddball signal spacings for now 01:54:25 <Stablean> <bon> I'll fix it at a later date...vehicle conversion comes first 01:54:31 <Stablean> <bon> :) 01:55:29 <Stablean> <Anson> on the last map, we had thought that a line needed to be doubled since it was quite jammed 01:55:36 <Stablean> <bon> heh 01:56:13 <Stablean> <bon> let me guess: signals at fault? :P 01:56:17 <Stablean> *** Sjusser joined the game 01:57:01 <Stablean> <Anson> but after i adjusted a few locations with bad signal spacing (ons spot had spacing 6 instead of 2) and changing one "merge before split" (3->1->3) to a 3->2->3, the tracks were suddenly almost empty :-) 01:57:11 <Stablean> <bon> heh :) 01:58:05 <Stablean> <Anson> proper signal spacing (always <=2) will take care of a lot of problems later ... and signals are not costly, even at the beginning 01:58:15 <Stablean> <bon> :) 02:14:18 <Stablean> *** Sjusser has left the game (leaving) 02:16:10 <Stablean> <bon> ok thats first ship on mixed route for now 02:16:21 <Stablean> <bon> kinda going be a lot of fun getting things converted without completely halting things :P 02:19:39 *** Mark has quit IRC 02:20:11 <Stablean> <bon> heh Guilty As Sin .. turned down offer to test it :p 02:20:17 <Stablean> <bon> <is not guilt! 02:20:19 <Stablean> <bon> :P 02:22:38 <Stablean> <bon> one rail route finally blown up....now for next one :) 02:31:41 <Stablean> *** Speedy has joined spectators 02:34:31 <Stablean> *** Speedy has joined company #10 02:36:03 <Stablean> *** Speedy has joined spectators 02:37:52 *** BiG_MEECH has joined #openttdcoop.stable 02:38:17 <BiG_MEECH> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 02:38:27 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo 02:38:41 <Stablean> <Anson> still no admin online ? 02:38:51 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (leaving) 02:38:57 <BiG_MEECH> Why do you need those noobs? 02:39:01 <Stablean> <bon> anson..probably asleep on keyboard? heh :) 02:39:07 <Stablean> <bon> meech....ROFL??? 02:39:21 <BiG_MEECH> :D 02:39:39 <Stablean> *** Anson has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 02:40:24 <Stablean> <Anson> hint to all "advanced players" : !setdef was not executed, and thus EOL for 2way signals and several other parameters are not as usual ... 02:40:51 <BiG_MEECH> aww 02:40:53 <BiG_MEECH> !date 02:40:53 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: 29 Sep 1962 02:41:31 <BiG_MEECH> I would think taht that time it is a default map 02:41:36 <BiG_MEECH> any grf's loaded? 02:41:55 <Stablean> <bon> duh yes :) 02:41:57 <Stablean> <bon> heh 02:42:08 <BiG_MEECH> thats odd then for them not to do it 02:42:14 <Stablean> <bon> blame mark eh? 02:42:16 <Stablean> <bon> :) 02:42:22 <BiG_MEECH> Yup, Blame mark for everything 02:42:25 <Stablean> <bon> and he's gone to bed or something already by now 02:42:27 <Stablean> <bon> LOL 02:42:30 <Stablean> <bon> nope..just this once :P 02:42:31 <BiG_MEECH> Yup, Im sure he has 02:43:20 <Stablean> <Anson> we have nuts, purr and firs 02:43:21 <BiG_MEECH> its funnier if you blame him for everything 02:43:29 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (general timeout) 02:43:29 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (connection lost) 02:43:37 <BiG_MEECH> Well I am glad you have your nuts, you would be lonley without them 02:43:49 <Stablean> <bon> meech either way I'm slowly trying to change from rail to wetrail...too much "bickering around" :-s 02:44:01 <Stablean> <bon> have one route done...2nd one somewhat finished except for platforms .. 3rd one in progress :) 02:44:39 <Stablean> <bon> poor tugs running at only 49kph in some places but ehh....at least things still moving one way or another 02:44:54 <BiG_MEECH> When you have nuts you're good for a slow tug. 02:45:00 <Stablean> <bon> you're strange :) 02:45:21 <BiG_MEECH> They're bad puns 02:45:58 <BiG_MEECH> !players 02:46:01 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 255 (Mauve) is CGW, in company 3 (Cresmont Express) 02:46:01 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 197 (Dark Blue) is Anson, in company 4 (happy tran sport Transport) 02:46:01 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 281 (Brown) is bon, in company 2 (rapidee sailing co.) 02:46:08 <BiG_MEECH> !companies 02:46:10 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Company 1 (Blue): Pear Transport 02:46:10 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Company 2 (Brown): rapidee sailing co. 02:46:10 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Company 3 (Mauve): Cresmont Express 02:46:10 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Company 4 (Dark Blue): happy tran sport Transport 02:46:10 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Company 5 (Orange): Mark Transport 02:46:11 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Company 6 (White): Greater Anglia 02:46:11 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Company 7 (Red): aeg Transport 02:46:13 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Company 8 (Green): N Transport 02:46:13 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Company 9 (Pale Green): JoeSchmoe Transport 02:46:15 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Company 10 (Grey): Transport United 02:46:24 <BiG_MEECH> already 10 companies?! 02:46:26 <BiG_MEECH> xD 02:46:29 <Stablean> <bon> heh have one single rail bridge thats holding up 4 trains....meh 02:46:39 <Stablean> <bon> oh well it'll soon be gone when I have no rail trains left! 02:48:33 <Stablean> <bon> you should see what I have meech :P 02:49:42 <BiG_MEECH> Maybe soon 02:49:48 <BiG_MEECH> been busy updating tower 02:49:53 <Stablean> <bon> ok :p 02:50:03 <Stablean> <bon> I may remove some but still theres a weird mix of rail+water :P 02:50:13 <Stablean> <bon> by tomorrow it'll be 0% rails anywhere tho ;) 02:50:41 <BiG_MEECH> new hard drives + raid + new linux version = I want to strangle myself. 02:54:20 <BiG_MEECH> That and im trying to get it all to look like the old version and get all my old apps back :D 02:54:23 <BiG_MEECH> Big Fun. 03:11:38 <Stablean> <bon> I hate this stupid one bridge...oh well it'll soon be vanished and I'm going to bed -_- 03:11:50 <BiG_MEECH> vanished? 03:12:00 <BiG_MEECH> you putting invisible ink on it? 03:12:30 <BiG_MEECH> bbiab :) 03:12:33 <Stablean> <bon> very silly 03:12:35 *** BiG_MEECH has quit IRC 03:20:08 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe joined the game 03:21:04 <Stablean> <bon> geeze this taking so long...already want to sleep now >_< 03:29:55 <Stablean> <bon> ok bedtime finally ugh! 03:30:05 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 03:49:37 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (general timeout) 03:49:37 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (connection lost) 03:50:04 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe joined the game 04:05:41 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher joined the game 04:12:10 <Stablean> *** RedMustang joined the game 04:14:29 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has left the game (leaving) 04:14:35 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 04:25:29 <Stablean> *** p joined the game 04:38:59 <Stablean> *** Djanxy joined the game 04:39:04 <Stablean> <Djanxy> hey 04:39:46 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo 04:54:17 <Stablean> *** p has left the game (leaving) 04:54:40 <Stablean> *** X3 has started a new company (#11) 04:54:42 <Stablean> *** X3 joined the game 04:56:12 <Stablean> *** o_O has started a new company (#12) 04:56:14 <Stablean> *** o_O joined the game 04:59:19 <Stablean> *** RedMustang has left the game (leaving) 05:10:57 <Djanxy> !rules 05:10:58 <Stablean> Djanxy: Rules are at http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart/Stable 05:14:36 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has left the game (leaving) 05:14:38 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> woops 05:14:45 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> bye bye 5 mill 05:14:59 <Stablean> <Anson> terraformed ? 05:15:09 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yup coast 05:16:15 <Stablean> <Anson> diagonal coastline when building bridges ... you will get used to watch for them :-) 05:25:26 <Stablean> <Anson> i hate authorities :-( 05:26:08 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> how big is your problem (tiles to demolish?) 05:32:06 *** Djanxy has quit IRC 05:51:11 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, cresmont express ... when you use pbs at the long tunnel, you should only put a signal in front of the switch and none between switch and the tunnel itself 05:51:57 <Stablean> <Anson> else, trains will select a tunnel, even when there is no free tunnel, and then wait at the signal, although in the meantime, the other might be free 05:52:13 <Stablean> <CGW> but it seems to be working 05:52:23 <Stablean> <CGW> its two one-way lines 05:52:29 <Stablean> <Anson> i just saw trains waiting 05:53:15 <Stablean> <Anson> "these three signals" ... those are the signals which invite a train to go there, and then the train waits even when the other tunnel might be free in the meantime 05:53:41 <Stablean> <CGW> ok thanks, its bed time for me 05:54:23 <Stablean> <Anson> and 2 tunnels per direction are not enough when you get more traffic ... 05:55:05 <Stablean> <CGW> its the bridges backing everthing up 05:55:55 <Stablean> <CGW> something to work on tomorrow! 05:55:59 <Stablean> <Anson> you have a missing signal at the bridges 05:56:09 <Stablean> <Anson> at !gap 05:56:31 <Stablean> <CGW> ty 05:56:49 <Stablean> <Player> Helloo 05:57:07 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, anonymous player 05:57:14 <Stablean> <Player> LOL 05:57:56 <Stablean> <Anson> you can change your name ingame, or set a default name on the multiplayer selection screen before login 05:58:14 <Stablean> <Player> yes 05:58:30 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to ColdTrans 05:58:56 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, good name for this landscape, even if i am frezing already :-) 05:59:18 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> Me too :) 05:59:42 <Stablean> *** o_O has left the game (leaving) 06:00:23 <Stablean> <Anson> did i already say that i hate authorities ? :-( 06:00:49 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> no you didnt 06:01:19 <Stablean> <Anson> i already planted trees for 200k+, but they still hate me, and thus i hate them# 06:02:23 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> what is 2000k = "k" mean? 06:03:17 <Stablean> <Anson> 200 ... and k is kilo .... 200k$ = 200000$ 06:03:47 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> o_O 06:04:06 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> Ty 06:04:24 <Stablean> <Anson> you are on this server for the first time ? 06:04:34 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> Yes. 06:04:46 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> im a newbe 06:05:52 <Stablean> <Anson> this server is mostly about trains ... look at the advanced settings to see limits: lots of trains allowed, but few or no RV (road vehicles), ships and planes ... and on most maps, ships and planes cost millions or even billions 06:06:42 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> Yes , I knew it 06:06:52 <Stablean> <Anson> if you want to start a company, look where you find some free space and some industries ... 06:07:20 <Stablean> *** Ars has started a new company (#12) 06:07:22 <Stablean> *** Ars joined the game 06:07:54 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> There is no space 06:08:00 <Stablean> <Ars> рш 06:08:02 <Stablean> <Ars> hi 06:08:14 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> hi ars 06:09:28 <Stablean> <Anson> i see one island in the south, and in the northwest corner of the map too 06:09:58 <Stablean> <Anson> but of course, a late start in a firs game is not easy 06:10:30 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> yes , But how long youv been palying in this sever? 06:10:48 <Stablean> <Anson> this server or this map ? 06:10:54 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> Yes 06:11:12 <Stablean> <Anson> maps mostly start in 1920, sometimes in 1950 06:11:30 <Stablean> <Anson> 58 years for this map now 06:11:56 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> R u admin here? 06:12:58 <Stablean> <Anson> this server has no fixed end date, and the map doesn't reset sometime, but when someone made a new map and the old map is "used up" (no more space, nothing to build), then a new map is loaded 06:13:17 <Stablean> <Anson> most of the time, that is well after 2100, sometimes 2200 06:13:39 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> ok 06:13:39 <Stablean> <Anson> no, i only am online often and long :-) 06:14:18 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> Btw If we win the game what whe will get? 06:15:20 <Stablean> <Anson> about the prices : usually, prices for ships and planes are very high to discourage their use, and also terraforming is costly (water even more than land) ... in this game, it is relatively "cheap" for this server ... values are set in the basecosts grf file 06:15:40 <Stablean> <Anson> you win by having fun :-) 06:15:58 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> :) 06:16:00 <Stablean> <Anson> and by learning from watching other players or asking for help 06:18:54 <Stablean> <Anson> V, if you read chat: is it intended that EOL setting and all the other parameters are not set (no !setdef done) ? 06:20:41 <Stablean> *** ColdTrans has started a new company (#13) 06:27:08 <Stablean> <ColdTrans> We cant Deiver Passenger In this map?? 06:34:42 <Stablean> *** ColdTrans has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 06:35:22 <Stablean> *** ColdTrans has left the game (leaving) 06:36:25 *** BiG_MEECH has joined #openttdcoop.stable 06:36:29 <BiG_MEECH> WOOOOOOO! 06:36:33 <BiG_MEECH> yoyo! 06:36:36 <BiG_MEECH> !date 06:36:36 <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: 18 Dec 1979 06:36:42 <BiG_MEECH> Shakedown 1979 06:36:47 <BiG_MEECH> Cool Kids never have the time 06:36:59 <Stablean> <Player> Yaahhh MEn Cmon!! 06:37:25 <Stablean> <Player> Just Bring it ON!!!!! 06:37:26 <BiG_MEECH> lol hi 06:37:46 <Stablean> <Player> Lol :) 06:38:14 <BiG_MEECH> how are you? :) 06:38:32 <Stablean> <Player> Fine U? 06:38:57 <BiG_MEECH> Good. Hate to tell you what to do, but if you could change your name that would be great 06:39:01 <BiG_MEECH> type in 06:39:05 <BiG_MEECH> !name ( YOUR NAME ) 06:39:34 <Stablean> <Player> How? 06:39:46 <BiG_MEECH> use the enter key, like where you type 06:39:49 <BiG_MEECH> !name 06:39:53 <BiG_MEECH> then your name 06:40:27 <Stablean> <Player> it didn work 06:40:30 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 06:40:53 <Stablean> <Anson> you also can set a default username, so that you don't have to do it over and over again ... that option is on the multiplayer selection screen before you select a server, in the top right corner 06:41:10 <BiG_MEECH> Anson if he is having problems doing that he cant do what you're telling him xD 06:41:11 <Stablean> <Player> Thank You 06:41:28 <Stablean> <Player> My name Cold trans 06:41:33 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 06:41:34 <Stablean> <Player> Wait for me 06:41:38 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 06:41:48 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Whoa nice 06:41:51 <Stablean> <Big Meech> Stablean is learning 06:42:31 <Stablean> *** Cold Trans! joined the game 06:42:34 <Stablean> <Big Meech> yoyo! 06:42:52 <Stablean> <Big Meech> just type that for once :D 06:43:04 <Stablean> <Big Meech> got it? :) 06:43:12 <Stablean> *** Cold Trans! has changed his/her name to GOGY 06:43:14 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 06:43:24 <Stablean> <GOGY> It didn work here 06:43:35 <Stablean> <Big Meech> it did 06:43:38 <Stablean> <Big Meech> your name is changed 06:43:44 <Stablean> <GOGY> owh It did LOL 06:43:54 <Stablean> <Big Meech> :D 06:44:02 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has changed his/her name to BOSSMEECH 06:44:22 <Stablean> <GOGY> where you from meech? 06:44:30 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> Midwest USA 06:44:36 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> way past bedtime here 06:45:23 <Stablean> <GOGY> here Indonesia - 03:45 after noon 06:45:33 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> ah, worried abotu that typhoon coming? 06:46:09 <Stablean> <GOGY> typhon " what is it? 06:46:15 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> hurricane 06:46:29 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> its hitting phillipines as we speak 06:46:36 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> ah well maybe it wont come your way 06:47:00 <Stablean> <GOGY> oh , yeah i wish 06:48:00 <Stablean> <Anson> i am well past bedtime too ... maybe i should skip this night completely :-) 06:48:18 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> add some beer 06:48:20 <Stablean> <Anson> 7.45 am :-) 06:48:50 <Stablean> <GOGY> beer?? 06:49:00 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> sure 06:49:06 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> never too early to start drinking 06:49:09 <Stablean> <GOGY> how it taste 06:49:28 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> sorta like cheerios 06:49:34 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> but more wet 06:49:37 <Stablean> <Anson> lol ... you think "there is always some region where it is afternoon or evening" ? :-) 06:50:31 <Stablean> <GOGY> In my country beer is forbidden sometime 06:50:38 <Stablean> <Anson> why do the authorities still hate me ? 06:50:46 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> Oh, I did not knwo that 06:50:56 <Stablean> <GOGY> who? 06:50:56 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> Muslim law, correct? 06:51:14 <Stablean> <GOGY> i dont know 06:51:26 <Stablean> <GOGY> may be ,, Aerican Invasion? 06:51:52 <Stablean> <GOGY> american Invasion?? :! 06:52:30 <Stablean> <GOGY> but Im not sure ,,, Im not a muslim 06:52:36 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> ah :) 06:52:38 <Stablean> <Anson> laws are quite strange sometimes ... we may start drinking at 16 (beer/wine) or 18 (higher %% of alc), and driving (hehe, not at the same time) with 18 ... in USA, driving starts at 16 and drining only much later 06:53:44 <Stablean> <GOGY> american Cought when they try to spy Indonesian and germany 06:53:51 <Stablean> <Anson> authorities in Telfordville ... i want to build another station there 06:53:57 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> we suck. 06:54:24 <Stablean> <GOGY> why they spying on us?? 06:54:54 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> apparently they think everyone is s terrorist 06:55:10 <Stablean> <Anson> everybody spies on everybody ... that is nature of politics and secret service ... 06:55:29 <Stablean> <GOGY> Hmm its nature 06:56:21 <Stablean> <Anson> but they should trust friends, and if they think they need to spy on friends, they shouldn't do it stupidly and get caught :-) 06:56:31 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> lol 06:56:37 <Stablean> <GOGY> lol :D 06:57:56 <Stablean> <Anson> why am i always at "appalling" with Telfordville ? 06:58:18 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> you havent bulldozed enough trees yet 06:59:06 <Stablean> <Anson> i have planted trees for a few hundred k$ already 06:59:40 <Stablean> <Anson> and i have three stations there which are serviced very well (2 pickup and 1 drop) 07:00:42 <Stablean> <Anson> station rating 71% ... over time, that should increase town rating ... 07:03:32 <Stablean> <GOGY> dont you booring? 07:04:26 <Stablean> <GOGY> wht abt SIMCITY? 07:04:45 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> I miss playing SC 07:05:03 <Stablean> <GOGY> me too 07:05:13 <Stablean> <Anson> the good old times ? :-) .... SC, TT, AOE 07:05:40 <Stablean> <GOGY> SC ?? and AOE ?? 07:06:03 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> SC = simcity 07:06:09 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> AOE = age of empires 07:06:11 <V453000> fakof SC is starcraft 07:06:14 <Stablean> <Anson> sim city, transport tycoon (the original) and age of empires (the first one of the series) 07:06:40 <Stablean> <GOGY> yes .. i like it too 07:06:51 <Stablean> <GOGY> Command conquere 07:07:03 <Stablean> <Anson> ah, hallo, V ... is the !setdef not done on purpose for this map ? (no EOL setting etc) 07:07:12 <V453000> !date 07:07:12 <Stablean> V453000: 28 Feb 1982 07:07:15 <V453000> no idea 07:07:25 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> YOOOOOO 07:07:26 <V453000> who the f made a map 07:07:28 <V453000> !setdef 07:07:28 <Stablean> *** V453000 has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 07:07:35 <Stablean> <BOSSMEECH> Mark I guess 07:07:41 <V453000> :D 07:07:44 <V453000> ok everything explained 07:07:47 <Stablean> <GOGY> what is Setdef?? 07:08:37 <Stablean> <Anson> path_backoff_interval is still 20 and was not changed ... the other values are as usual now 07:08:39 <Stablean> <Anson> thanks 07:08:55 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> oops 07:09:05 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> another 6 mill gone 07:09:11 <Stablean> <GOGY> why? 07:09:25 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> demolished some pond 07:09:30 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> accidentally 07:09:36 <Stablean> <GOGY> LOl 07:09:42 <Stablean> <GOGY> lol 07:09:44 <Stablean> <Anson> setdef is a macro that usually is executed once on loading a new map, and changes several default settings, eg the behavior of 2way signals 07:11:14 <Stablean> *** GOGY has joined company #13 07:11:27 <Stablean> <GOGY> w 07:11:43 <Stablean> <GOGY> d 07:16:17 <Stablean> *** BOSSMEECH has joined company #4 07:17:26 *** V453000 has left #openttdcoop.stable 07:17:38 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 07:17:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 07:18:42 <Stablean> *** BOSSMEECH has joined spectators 07:23:18 <Stablean> <GOGY> WHY!!!! 07:24:27 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 07:28:28 *** BiG_MEECH has left #openttdcoop.stable 07:30:24 <Stablean> *** BOSSMEECH has left the game (leaving) 07:36:33 <Stablean> <GOGY> bye all 07:36:39 <Stablean> <GOGY> see ya 07:37:14 <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> probably not for another real life 2 days 07:37:21 <Stablean> *** GOGY has left the game (leaving) 07:42:17 <Stablean> *** Ars has left the game (general timeout) 07:42:17 <Stablean> *** Ars has left the game (connection lost) 07:43:36 <Stablean> *** Ars joined the game 07:48:00 <Stablean> *** Ars has left the game (leaving) 07:55:23 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (general timeout) 07:55:23 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (connection lost) 07:57:33 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe joined the game 08:14:42 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#12) 08:14:46 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 08:15:06 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #12 08:25:39 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (leaving) 09:14:57 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:15:37 *** GriffinOneTwo has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:15:55 <Stablean> *** GriffinOneTwo joined the game 09:27:01 <Stablean> *** GriffinOneTwo has started a new company (#14) 09:35:05 <happy_> hi all 09:35:16 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, happy 09:36:14 <Stablean> <Anson> we need more metal and/or gasoline 09:37:43 <happy_> yer but fund is not cheep 09:38:14 <Stablean> <Anson> not ? 09:38:29 <Stablean> <Anson> something like 1-3 millions only 09:39:00 <Stablean> <Anson> but doubling production or quad prod would also be good enough 09:39:31 <Stablean> <Anson> i think we didn't yet do supplies at all ? ... i am just trying to set up timetables for farm supplies 09:40:30 <happy_> nice 09:42:34 <Stablean> <Anson> I'm using chami trains with 0.5 TL :-) ... they are the fastest, and have exactly the cargo that is needed for farm supplies (14 crates) 09:44:04 <happy_> i think we got to find a way for the supplies trans going in the net werk 09:45:05 <Stablean> <Anson> there is barely enough supplies to service 1 farm to quad level or 4 farms to double level ... thus we need 4 times as much 09:45:35 <Stablean> <Anson> and then we also have 4+ more farms which don't get supplies yet ... thus we need even more 09:46:01 <Stablean> <Anson> the network needs rebuilding too ... it looks quite messy :-) 09:46:27 <Stablean> <Anson> maybe the best solution would be to build a separate supplies network ? 09:46:32 <happy_> i thinke the best way is to mor stell factory drop so the supplies can go nexs to it 09:48:27 <Stablean> <Anson> the network looks quite empty ... we can easily double the number of trains, and we even don't use the best trains and wagons yet ... still using level 4 engines and 1st gen wagon although level 7(?) and 2nd or 3rd gen is available 09:48:31 <happy_> not shor if ther a nufe room at the net werk for the supplies net werk but can try it 09:49:59 <Stablean> <Anson> for supplies, we don't need doubled lines and fancy stuff... and we can put those lines anywhere (no need to follow the other mainlines etc) ... thus it shouldn't be too difficult 09:51:01 <happy_> the net werk need redoing and sume slhor sume thin 09:52:58 <Stablean> <Anson> building a network for firs is not so easy ... no idea how to do it best ... because there are many more secondaries and even tertiaries, so that we can't build the normal system with mainlines to big drops and sidelines for primaries ... there are too many secondary factories near the sidelines 09:53:41 <Stablean> <Anson> but i think, one mainline (doubled or later even tripled) would be good to transport something longdistance 09:54:15 <happy_> yer i think so 09:56:13 <Stablean> <Anson> since i didn't build most parts in the middle (between Brosseau and Lowland Heights), maybe you should do the ML there ? 09:56:36 <happy_> ok give me 10 mints and i will john the server and i have a look 09:57:11 <Stablean> <Anson> btw: i wanted to stick to your standard of driving left, but when i doubled the ML towards east, i simply doubled it and only later noticed that you had built taht part "drive right" ... 09:58:21 <Stablean> <Anson> now we have a chaotic system with driving left and right ... maybe we should switch to right for new/updated lines since the newer lines are all "drive right" ? 10:01:21 <happy_> yep but if we doo that we got to stop the trans but not to.lone be cours larst time me and wood did that all the stuf at the pike up clos down 10:01:37 <Stablean> *** GriffinOneTwo has left the game (leaving) 10:02:21 <happy_> be back in 10 mints 10:02:37 *** happy_ has quit IRC 10:03:46 <Stablean> <Anson> btw: i think we can build simple overflows (just a PBS plus depot and 2-platform stations) ... too many types of industries and some visible depots are there anyway ... 10:09:57 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 10:14:49 <Stablean> *** GriffinOneTwo joined the game 10:23:01 <Stablean> *** GriffinOneTwo has started a new company (#12) 10:23:39 <Stablean> *** GriffinOneTwo has joined spectators 10:28:33 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:28:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:31:01 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:32:02 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 10:32:18 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo 10:32:24 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 10:33:19 <Stablean> <Anson> i built a new ML ... thus we can move one station after the other, no need to stop all trains 10:34:54 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nice 10:35:12 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #4 10:37:03 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 10:38:11 <Stablean> <bon> hey anson? 10:39:19 <Stablean> <Anson> just built the signals 10:39:43 <Stablean> <bon> anson you seen what X3 been up to? 10:39:46 <Stablean> <Anson> when the end is connected, we can start building hubs and moving the other rails 10:40:36 <Stablean> <Anson> hadn't seen it yet ... was not in the south until 5 minutes ago 10:41:02 <Stablean> <bon> ah...well I think he needs a little reminder...not to mention I'm going to have to ask for some space to be able to relay wetrail :-s 10:41:14 <Stablean> <bon> but mm we'll see anyway 10:41:40 <Stablean> <Anson> water TF seems to be too cheap ... 10:43:22 <Stablean> <Anson> but at least, he transports most of the pax at Camrose, niot growing the town without need 10:46:04 <Stablean> <Anson> oh oh oh ... that green is a camouflage color ... i hadn't seen that he builds all over the map 10:46:14 <Stablean> <bon> ya...exactly! :-s 10:46:36 <Stablean> <bon> I need to ask him to knock out a few things so I can actually upgrade .. go figure 10:47:11 <Stablean> <Anson> and it is not only a long distance pax line, but at several spots it is some cargo transports too 10:49:25 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> x3 is at the top of the company leage table 10:49:52 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> Pax wins? 10:50:02 <Stablean> <bon> griffin..except maybe not as in a friendly manner but thats just what I'm thinking from a quick glance...I still think of vinnie trying to be "company #1" but he never got online enough heh 10:50:06 <Stablean> <bon> :) 10:50:08 <Stablean> <Anson> when someone builds across the whole map, that is no wonder 10:50:15 <Stablean> <bon> ya 10:50:45 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> bottom edge of map reduce the nussiance? 10:51:35 <Stablean> <Anson> and using PBS all over all tracks is also not the best idea 10:52:05 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> why? 10:57:04 <Stablean> <bon> x3...I hope you're not like...mm well I mean...deaf? I really need my usual rail spaces back in a few spots 10:57:23 <GriffinOneTwo> maybe he doesn't speak english 10:57:38 <Stablean> <X3> where? 10:57:48 <Stablean> <bon> speak for yourself griffin? :) 10:58:06 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> no nentendo 11:00:25 <Stablean> <bon> x3...I don't have any space due to you building right on top at Sunset Point Mines .. and somewhat same for the line to High River Woods as I needed to rebuild to two stations (theres no pickups atm yeah) at 11:00:35 <Stablean> <bon> thats the major two atm..still looking around yet 11:01:37 <Stablean> <X3> atm? 11:01:43 <Stablean> <X3> what means atm? 11:01:45 <Stablean> <bon> At The Moment 11:02:47 <Stablean> <Anson> at the western edge of the screen, you have built a straight track by terraforming a lot ... would be nice to build bridges instead with lots of small islands ... else it is excessive TF :-( 11:03:25 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i think the water tf is to cheep 11:03:35 <Stablean> <Anson> and in the next game, we would get prices of a few hundred millions or even billions for water TF 11:03:47 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 11:04:01 <Stablean> <X3> ^-^ 11:04:15 <Stablean> <bon> and mm this is like the 2nd time its happened in a big way...the welcome message should read "do not build from one side of map to other side!" 11:04:18 <Stablean> <bon> just a thought? 11:05:45 <Stablean> <Anson> we had some games where someone flattened mountains and water ... next games had TF costs set to something like a million for land and a billion for water 11:05:55 <Stablean> <bon> :-> 11:06:18 <Stablean> <bon> I usually only dent one or few slopes at a times for curves but thats usually as far as actual TF I've done ... that the proper way to do it eh? :) 11:06:36 <Stablean> <Anson> what use do rules have when people don't read them, and if they read them then don't follow them ? 11:06:42 <Stablean> <bon> heh yeah ^^ 11:06:44 <Stablean> <bon> :-/ 11:09:04 <Stablean> <X3> bon what you need exactly? 11:10:46 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> oops 11:11:20 <Stablean> <bon> heh ops indeed griffin :-s 11:12:06 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> If you are going to make a new Ml, you have to break a few eggs? eer trains? 11:12:24 <Stablean> <X3> coal mine delete? 11:13:23 <Stablean> <bon> if thats the only way I can have normal space again then feel free to 11:14:57 <Stablean> <Anson> a new double ML is almost done ... now it is about some tight space with a lot of traffic where i try to rebuild without stopping trains .... 11:15:03 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 11:15:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> can sume won remov company 11 11:15:45 <Stablean> <bon> heh happy..you getting cramped out by him too/ 11:15:48 <Stablean> <bon> ?* 11:15:50 <Stablean> <Anson> and in addition, the old rails are sometimed "drive left" and sometimes "drive right" ... thus some additional bridges and crossings ... 11:16:06 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> so whont 11:16:58 <Stablean> <X3> what problem...? 11:17:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> read the rules 11:17:35 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> u can not doo water tf like that 11:17:57 <Stablean> <X3> wait.. 11:17:58 <GriffinOneTwo> !rules 11:17:58 <Stablean> GriffinOneTwo: Rules are at http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart/Stable 11:18:26 <GriffinOneTwo> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Terraforming#Low-Terraforming 11:21:02 <Stablean> <bon> ok anson that didn't take me too much labour compared to yesterday..killing the last rail route now then I'll finally be 100% wet on one side 11:21:13 <Stablean> <bon> will have to work the oil/lumber into wetrail as soon as X3 could uncramp me 11:21:15 <Stablean> <bon> :) 11:21:37 <Stablean> <Anson> you are wet on one side ? :-) 11:21:47 <Stablean> <bon> heh I know how silly that sounds eh? 11:21:49 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> roll in four> 11:21:59 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> err flour 11:22:01 <Stablean> <bon> I meant my ore network is almost 100% wet now 11:22:11 <Stablean> <bon> but the lumber/oil side is still 90% rails yet 11:22:13 <Stablean> <bon> :) 11:22:40 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> whats the advantage to wet rails, or do you just like the look? 11:23:02 <Stablean> <bon> fast loading time and they're decent on steep routes assuming you don't add way too many barges 11:23:46 <Stablean> <bon> the CAT is a bit weak on multiply slopes tho but its got its own unique stats tho 11:25:00 <Stablean> <Anson> using universal rail is an option when you are rich enough ... first convert everything to uni, then work on converting uni to wet where needed (to get rid of that -30% penalty) 11:25:24 <Stablean> <bon> and it allows traffic to not stop...as much as it may slow down due to bottlenecks there and there :) 11:26:42 <GriffinOneTwo> hmm 11:27:22 <Stablean> <bon> oh WTF WTF 11:27:32 <Stablean> <bon> anson I just noticed Camrose now..that indeed is just too abusive TF 11:30:16 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> thats what I meant by Pax appears to win 11:31:24 <GriffinOneTwo> Appears no one uses TeamSpeak voice.openttdcoop.org ? 11:31:40 <Stablean> *** Taede joined the game 11:31:42 <Stablean> <bon> hi taede :) 11:31:49 <Stablean> <bon> don't get too....steamy :) 11:31:51 <Stablean> <bon> heh 11:32:05 <Stablean> <Taede> ello 11:32:11 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 11:32:26 <Stablean> <X3> hey... Low terraforming is not allowed? 11:32:39 <GriffinOneTwo> Low is, Low means not much 11:32:48 <GriffinOneTwo> Little, few 11:32:52 <Stablean> <bon> not just that but a bit of disregard to other player's space as well just as a note 11:33:29 <GriffinOneTwo> "you should attempt to build as far from anyone else as possible." 11:34:53 <Stablean> <X3> hmm... 11:36:12 <Stablean> <X3> i learn rule form N-ice server.... 11:37:43 <GriffinOneTwo> http://wiki.openttd.org/Multiplayer_Rules too 11:37:45 <Stablean> <X3> i am ranking score 1 in N-ice server.... my id is alops2210 11:38:11 <Stablean> <bon> who said anything about "rules" that is breaking rules? :) 11:39:07 <Stablean> *** X3 has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 11:39:19 <Stablean> *** X3 has left the game (leaving) 11:39:22 <Taede> !rcon companies 11:39:22 <Stablean> Taede: #:1(Blue) Company Name: 'Pear Transport' Year Founded: 1922 Money: 100362282 Loan: 0 Value: 100385820 (T:9, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 11:39:22 <Stablean> Taede: #:2(Brown) Company Name: 'rapidee sailing co.' Year Founded: 1920 Money: 13668436 Loan: 0 Value: 13786572 (T:23, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 11:39:22 <Stablean> Taede: #:3(Mauve) Company Name: 'Cresmont Express' Year Founded: 1921 Money: 110033362 Loan: 0 Value: 110145977 (T:41, R:1, P:0, S:5) protected 11:39:22 <Stablean> Taede: #:4(Dark Blue) Company Name: 'happy tran sport Transport' Year Founded: 1923 Money: 18202574 Loan: 0 Value: 18437885 (T:95, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 11:39:22 <Stablean> Taede: #:5(Orange) Company Name: 'Mark Transport' Year Founded: 1924 Money: 28425415 Loan: 0 Value: 28452889 (T:27, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 11:39:23 <Stablean> Taede: you have 7 more messages 11:39:25 <Taede> !more 11:39:25 <Stablean> Taede: #:6(White) Company Name: 'Greater Anglia' Year Founded: 1942 Money: 1038925 Loan: 60000 Value: 989737 (T:2, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 11:39:25 <Stablean> Taede: #:7(Red) Company Name: 'aeg Transport' Year Founded: 1925 Money: 22033320 Loan: 100000 Value: 21958344 (T:7, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 11:39:25 <Stablean> Taede: #:8(Green) Company Name: 'N Transport' Year Founded: 1949 Money: 2466361 Loan: 180000 Value: 2308623 (T:5, R:6, P:0, S:0) protected 11:39:27 <Stablean> Taede: #:9(Pale Green) Company Name: 'JoeSchmoe Transport' Year Founded: 1949 Money: 14760772 Loan: 0 Value: 14833958 (T:32, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 11:39:27 <Stablean> Taede: #:10(Grey) Company Name: 'Transport United' Year Founded: 1954 Money: 3394581 Loan: 100000 Value: 3310741 (T:2, R:3, P:0, S:0) protected 11:39:29 <Stablean> Taede: you have 2 more messages 11:39:31 <GriffinOneTwo> I forget half of them half the time anaway, except when someone brings them up 11:39:37 <Taede> !more 11:39:37 <Stablean> Taede: #:11(Dark Green) Company Name: 'X3 Transport' Year Founded: 1972 Money: 89133004 Loan: 0 Value: 89462994 (T:45, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 11:39:37 <Stablean> Taede: #:13(Purple) Company Name: 'ColdTrans Transport' Year Founded: 1978 Money: 3350204 Loan: 150000 Value: 3223016 (T:2, R:4, P:0, S:0) protected 11:39:37 <Stablean> <bon> well I guess thats one way to do it...remove the offending parts and just leave the damaged TF as it is 11:39:52 <Taede> !rcon reset_company 11 11:39:52 <Stablean> Taede: Company deleted. 11:39:57 <Taede> sorted 11:40:05 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 11:40:17 <Stablean> <bon> cheers ... I'll be working on my oil rails soon finally 11:40:25 <Stablean> <bon> just trying clean up the reams from the other side here 11:40:36 <Stablean> *** Pyetro has started a new company (#11) 11:40:38 <Stablean> *** Pyetro joined the game 11:41:07 <Taede> note to self: get soap to also tell the message to irc if player uses !admin with message attached 11:41:17 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> 8k Pax stranded on a island ! 11:41:23 <Stablean> <bon> so? :) 11:41:42 <GriffinOneTwo> sad for them 11:43:56 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> something change with map of world dialog, the bottom area is a lot biggger, unless I get really wide, company wrap changed? 11:46:55 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> Now Crestmont is #1, due to long dist Pax too 11:47:11 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> so, again, Pax wins 11:48:19 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> I would have thought on FIRS, that Pax would be of less value, with all the industry complexity, and deep supply ahins 11:48:21 <Stablean> *** Pyetro has left the game (leaving) 11:50:31 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> Anson / Happy, at your Temp conn & stary of Ml, the short turn onto the bridge greatly reduces the trains speed doesn't it? 11:51:22 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer 11:51:38 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 11:51:51 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> general rule of thumb is train length turns? 11:54:07 <Stablean> <bon> still tiny pieces of universal rail reams left...guess I'm not quite done yet :-s 11:54:44 <Stablean> *** Ars joined the game 12:00:12 <Stablean> *** GriffinOneTwo has started a new company (#12) 12:01:28 <Stablean> <Anson> GOT: a 0.5 CL curve has speed 88 or something low like that 12:01:47 <Stablean> <Anson> but as the sign says : temp = temporary 12:02:22 <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> yea, just trying to improve my knowledge 12:03:08 <Stablean> <Anson> your rule of thumb is not correct, but also not wrong :-) 12:03:10 <Stablean> *** Taede has left the game (leaving) 12:03:12 <Stablean> *** GriffinOneTwo has joined spectators 12:03:49 <Stablean> <Anson> the com,putation for CL takes place only when a train is longer than CL ... thus short trains will always have full speed 12:04:19 <V453000> @cl 12:04:20 <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed 12:04:21 <V453000> just see that 12:04:27 <Stablean> <bon> heh hi there :) 12:04:33 <Stablean> <Anson> and for short trains, it depends on wagon length, the curvature of the curve, max speed, railtype, etc 12:06:14 <Stablean> <Anson> if you have decided on a specific TL and even a specific train, you can build a circle and see whether it has full speed ... 12:06:26 <Stablean> *** Ars has left the game (leaving) 12:06:54 <Stablean> <bon> oh nice...plastic plant build itself in a nice place for me instead of me having to fund one 12:08:02 <GriffinOneTwo> hmm, seems that e.g. the x3's 20 car trains, that it would go slower through at CL7, than a train half its length would 12:08:26 <GriffinOneTwo> ahh, I saw you covered that 12:11:08 <V453000> if the half as long train fits inside the curve, yes 12:11:22 <V453000> and if the CL7 is too slow so it slows down the max speed 12:11:29 <Stablean> <bon> *me wishes I had started with wet in first place* 12:12:45 <Stablean> <Anson> V, when does WET start ? 1940 ? ... it would be nice when we could start with wet when a map starts (in 1920) 12:12:57 <Stablean> <bon> anson...yeah its like 1940s indeed 12:13:01 *** happy_ has quit IRC 12:13:12 <V453000> so many things would be nice 12:13:21 <V453000> doesnt mean I see the reason to 12:13:32 <Stablean> <bon> anson.. 1939-1941 to be exact 12:13:34 <Stablean> <Anson> or would it be too realistic if people invent ships before trains ? .-) 12:13:44 <Stablean> <bon> anson...ships existed LONG before trains? :) 12:13:48 <Stablean> <bon> hehehe 12:15:00 <Stablean> <Anson> maybe V could add one more wet train : a simple raft from 1500 to 1940 :-) 12:15:32 <GriffinOneTwo> Suez Canal 1869? Panama Canal 1914? 12:15:48 <Stablean> <bon> anson..actually I think it would be a rehash of Waterproof with a 50-60kph top speed and less hp/tractive? 12:16:03 <Stablean> <bon> eg 1000hp roughly 12:16:03 <V453000> maybe he could, maybe he wont 12:16:21 <Stablean> <bon> and to keep it linear... tractive could be like 100-120kN 12:17:08 <Stablean> <Anson> the problem with WET is that people have either to skip the first 20 years, or they need to build trains and then change the railtype which both is annoying or costly, or both 12:17:31 <Stablean> <bon> anson indeed..I spent a lot of the late night simply trying to move things over then finally just went to bed 12:17:41 <Stablean> <bon> almost done now here for *half* of the network X_X 12:17:53 <Stablean> <Anson> and since trains are faster than WET, it would be a nice feature to be able to start with wet instead of having faster trains and then "downgrading" to wet in 1940 12:18:27 <Stablean> <bon> yeah 12:18:51 <Stablean> <bon> and waiting 20 years to start is a bit hard when you can't "reserve" the lines you wanted without building rails in first place -_- 12:19:14 <V453000> how is it a problem? 12:19:15 <V453000> I dont see it 12:19:28 <V453000> you just remove one wagon when converting to ships, done 12:19:33 <Stablean> <bon> v453000 try explain to other players to not take a particular area for 20 years because you can't build anything 12:19:52 <V453000> you can build rails and convert though purr? 12:20:08 <Stablean> <bon> then basecost would have to be changed to make it as inexpensive 12:20:40 <Stablean> <Anson> in 1920 to 1940, shortly after the game starts, YOU may have enough money to build purr, but most people don't 12:20:50 <Stablean> <bon> thank you anson :) 12:21:08 <Stablean> <bon> that was why I built a lot of wetrail in parallel because 100% universal would had bankrupted me twice at the time 12:21:09 <V453000> fair enough 12:21:16 <Stablean> <bon> but it was a *** headache tho 12:21:22 <V453000> but yeah purr is cheaper in next version 12:21:32 <Stablean> <bon> cheers :) 12:21:45 <Stablean> *** Lacas joined the game 12:23:42 <V453000> btw wtf is the difference between me and other people in money 12:23:48 <V453000> I build more tracks, need more money for replace 12:23:50 <V453000> same thing 12:23:50 <Stablean> <Anson> i think that most people don't like wet after they have fast trains ... having wet right from the start could help with that: who builds wet first might stay with it, but few people "downgrade" from fast trains to wet, even if wet has other advantages ... 12:24:05 <V453000> I dont care what people dont like 12:24:17 <V453000> esp not "because they had fast trains" 12:24:23 <Stablean> <Anson> you (and a few other people) build faster and thus earn lots of money earlier 12:24:26 <V453000> that is so wrong on so many levels that I erally dont care 12:25:00 <Stablean> <bon> anson agreed...some people just can't get it in their head that not all players want "massive trains massive profits huge tracks" early on...so ehhh I'll just say never mind 12:25:33 <V453000> if you dont build to have a lot of stuff then why should I listen to you in the first place 12:25:38 <Stablean> *** Lacas has started a new company (#12) 12:26:59 <Stablean> <bon> why is it that in several games I had a much higher cargo delivery (even with no pax in sight) even although I didn't have much in way of tracks? 12:27:13 <Stablean> <bon> so yeah..no comment as usual 12:27:42 <V453000> if you dont have tracks, it speaks of everything 12:28:03 <V453000> what else do you build 12:28:07 <V453000> grass? 12:28:26 <GriffinOneTwo> ships, trucks? 12:28:30 <Stablean> <bon> nope...half of the time in tweaks and other half in new mine or so 12:28:33 <V453000> no GriffinOneTwo :( 12:28:57 <V453000> and the new mine is grass or what 12:29:06 <Stablean> <bon> nope...coal...ore...whatever you name it 12:29:48 <V453000> yes and you get to it by building tracks unless I am terribly wrong 12:30:10 <V453000> so if you dont have "a lot of tracks" then you probably "are not playing the game" 12:30:21 <V453000> and if you "are not playing the game" then why should I take relevance in your suggestions 12:30:37 <Stablean> <bon> you're reading it backward..where did I said I had zero cargo delivery? 12:30:58 <V453000> I did never mention or ask about cargo delivery 12:31:30 <Stablean> <bon> "not playing the game" << that 12:31:49 <V453000> is related to cargo delivery number how 12:34:27 <Stablean> <Anson> bon "high cargo with few tracks" -- V "no tracks speaks of everything" -- V "if you don't have lots of tracks, you don't play the game" 12:36:58 <Stablean> <Anson> ottd has no fixed goal. you set your own goals. and some people have cargo delivery as goal, even with small networks. or they want to build "nicely". or they want to build (wet) ships. or .... 12:37:04 * GriffinOneTwo slaps GriffinOneTwo around a bit with a large fishbot 12:37:08 *** GriffinOneTwo has quit IRC 12:37:22 <Stablean> *** GriffinOneTwo has left the game (leaving) 12:37:38 <Stablean> <Anson> and it would help to be able starting a game with wet, instead of first playing with trains for 20 years and then having to rebuild everything 12:37:48 <V453000> this isnt about goals what so ever 12:38:03 <V453000> you play the game by building tracks, dont you 12:38:10 <V453000> regardless of your goal 12:38:50 <V453000> so if you "dont want to build much" that basically means you dont want to play the game 12:38:52 <Stablean> <Anson> you need to build tracks, but the goal does not have to be building lots of tracks 12:39:02 <V453000> I didnt talk about goal at all? 12:39:25 <V453000> regardless of your goal you build tracks, if the game takes longer you probably get a lot of tracks 12:39:33 <V453000> how do you not get a lot of tracks in a longer game? 12:39:36 <V453000> while playing the game? 12:40:19 <Stablean> <Anson> when someone is building a small network, trying to build nice stations, and tweaks a hub, station entrance, overflow or whatever, he isn't playing the game since he has not a lot of tracks ???????? 12:41:05 <Stablean> <Anson> we are speaking about the first 20 years, 1920-1940 ... that is not a "long game" 12:41:09 <V453000> he still gets a lot of tracks in total 12:41:23 <V453000> that is 5 hours? 12:41:32 <V453000> thats like whole afternoon ... 12:42:27 <Stablean> <bon> <votes 100 too many times for anson and mm....noone else 12:42:33 <Stablean> <bon> :-p 12:42:43 <Stablean> <Anson> yes, maybe 5 hours, and you force people to either build rail trains first and then delete them again after having invested 5 hours, or people don't play at all durin tze first 5 hours, ... 12:42:52 <V453000> im not forcing anyone to do anything 12:43:15 <V453000> and I had no problems with that at all 12:43:17 <V453000> so yeah 12:44:16 <Stablean> <Anson> of course, you don't use force to force someone, but when someone wants to use the wet trains, that problem appears 12:44:35 <V453000> too bad 12:45:25 <Stablean> <Anson> i agree : "too bad" that many people don't use wet because they start by building a rail network and then don't delete it to start over with wet 12:45:51 <V453000> nice, we can agree 12:46:18 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#14) 12:46:51 <V453000> now go do anything useful so I can regard your opinions 12:46:52 <V453000> thanks 12:47:21 <Stablean> <bon> useful would be being able to build a network in first place instead of spending a long time trying to change things now 12:47:23 <Stablean> <bon> ;) 12:47:37 <V453000> build better 12:47:40 <V453000> fixes everything 12:47:54 <Stablean> <bon> then make it show up in 1920 12:47:54 <Stablean> <bon> :) 12:48:09 <V453000> when someone else can do it, you can do it just as well 12:48:10 <V453000> no I wont 12:48:19 <Stablean> <Anson> ... athough we mean something different with "too bad" ... you mean "too bad for the player who misses it" (but he never will know since he doesn't even try it) ... and i mean "too bad for the wet trainset which you invested a lot of time and work in, and which is used much to rarely" 12:48:49 <Stablean> <bon> anson...I think we're both talking to a upsidedown wall 12:50:19 <Stablean> <Anson> company "PLayer transport" with player named "Player" ? how is that possible ? 12:50:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> lacas read the rules 12:50:49 <Stablean> <bon> oh...for a momeent I was wondering if you got scared away happy :) 12:51:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi v 12:51:29 <V453000> hi. 12:51:35 <V453000> happy teach those idiots to play better :) 12:51:46 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 12:52:44 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> lacas can u move this see my sign 12:53:03 <Stablean> <Anson> happy, to clean up, i moved around some tracks, even when they get long bridges etc ... that can later be improved 12:53:22 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nice goodjob 12:53:32 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar i see 12:53:34 <Stablean> <Anson> but by moving around, i found several instances of detours, parallel routes etc 12:53:44 <Stablean> <Anson> eg between A and B 12:53:50 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i see them 12:54:44 <Stablean> <Anson> i have added a short connection to B, and now can remove the entiore A->B track, to make space for the ML from west to east 12:55:10 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep ise 12:55:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how is your net vwerk bon 12:55:46 <Stablean> <bon> doing ok happy...got half of it working all-wet now 12:55:53 <Stablean> <bon> about the other half...well....*sigh* yeah 12:56:11 <Stablean> <Anson> i did similar with other tracks already which created the long bridges in front of B ... but as you can see, one of them is gone now, and the other will follow when a proper hub is built 12:56:25 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nice 12:57:57 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 12:58:06 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #4 12:58:10 <Stablean> <bon> hi troy :) 12:58:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 12:58:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi troy 13:05:01 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> looks like lacas did not her me 13:05:15 <Stablean> <bon> happy...yeah as soon as I can finish killing the dumb rails I'll be able to expand to other things I had looked at yesterday FINALLY 13:05:17 <Stablean> <bon> :-> 13:05:37 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 13:05:40 <V453000> !players 13:05:42 <Stablean> V453000: Client 255 (Mauve) is CGW, in company 3 (Cresmont Express) 13:05:42 <Stablean> V453000: Client 373 (Dark Blue) is Troy McClure, in company 4 (happy tran sport Transport) 13:05:42 <Stablean> V453000: Client 197 (Dark Blue) is Anson, in company 4 (happy tran sport Transport) 13:05:42 <Stablean> V453000: Client 371 (Light Blue) is Lacas, in company 12 (Lacas Transport) 13:05:42 <Stablean> V453000: Client 356 (Dark Blue) is happy tran sport, in company 4 (happy tran sport Transport) 13:05:43 <Stablean> V453000: Client 358 (Brown) is bon, in company 2 (rapidee sailing co.) 13:05:43 <Stablean> V453000: Client 369 (Yellow) is Player, in company 14 (Player Transport) 13:05:46 <V453000> !rcon move 371 255 13:05:46 <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** Lacas has joined spectators 13:06:13 <Stablean> *** Lacas has joined company #12 13:06:29 <V453000> !rcon move 371 255 13:06:29 <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** Lacas has joined spectators 13:06:37 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 13:06:49 <V453000> Lacas happy was talking to yo 13:06:51 <V453000> u 13:07:03 <Stablean> *** Lacas has joined company #12 13:07:06 <V453000> !rcon move 371 255 13:07:07 <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** Lacas has joined spectators 13:07:09 <Stablean> <Lacas> sorry? 13:07:27 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> see my sign say this 13:08:21 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> we had a player did that in and he got the company remov 13:08:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> V, you're not in-game? 13:08:25 <Stablean> <Lacas> near east prairie? 13:08:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yep 13:08:32 <V453000> n 13:09:51 <Stablean> <Lacas> i dont build it.. just use ist for my tracks 13:10:01 <Stablean> <Lacas> s wrong? 13:10:01 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 13:10:05 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes 13:10:07 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 13:10:25 <Stablean> <Lacas> what can i do? 13:10:27 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there's a reason terraform costs are high 13:10:33 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> but its in the rules 13:10:47 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> u have to mov all ov it 13:10:49 <Stablean> <Lacas> yes i see. my company is new 13:10:57 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe joined the game 13:11:05 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb 13:11:07 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving) 13:11:12 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:11:12 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 13:11:13 <Mark> hi 13:11:19 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> v the water tf is to cheep 13:11:21 <Stablean> <bon> hi mark finally :) 13:11:27 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb troy 13:11:29 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi mark 13:11:30 <Mark> finally? :D 13:11:34 <Mark> some people have to work you know 13:11:42 <Stablean> <bon> yeah...wondered where you were mark .. I was up for two hours already :P 13:11:44 <Stablean> <bon> hehehe 13:11:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 13:12:04 <Mark> well ive been up for 10 hours 13:12:07 <Stablean> <bon> just being silly ofc 13:12:20 <Mark> :) 13:12:22 <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game 13:12:30 <Stablean> *** Lacas has left the game (leaving) 13:12:38 <Stablean> <Mark> omfg 13:12:45 <Stablean> <bon> mm? 13:12:52 <Stablean> <Mark> meh 13:13:02 <Stablean> <Mark> someone ran a track straight through my main drop area 13:13:28 <Stablean> <Mark> CGW: please keep some distance to other companies 13:13:42 <Stablean> <Mark> like i asked you yesterday 13:14:12 <Stablean> <bon> do you mean near Steinhauer? 13:14:26 <Stablean> <Mark> yea 13:14:29 <Stablean> <bon> mm :-s 13:14:47 <Stablean> <Mark> and wtf is that track running straight through the water 13:14:48 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 13:14:56 <Stablean> <V453000> hy 13:15:02 <Stablean> <Mark> yo 13:15:02 <Stablean> <V453000> very nice 13:15:04 <Stablean> <V453000> :D 13:15:10 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer i no mark 13:15:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> this is the 2 time 13:15:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> is it hapernd 13:15:32 <Stablean> <Mark> should have made water tf more expensive 13:15:42 <Stablean> <V453000> just put it to the max 13:15:44 <Stablean> <V453000> canals too 13:15:48 <Stablean> <V453000> easy 13:16:11 <Stablean> <V453000> lol happy why do you still use steam trains :D 13:16:50 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> the net wek is not ready for the tran up grade yet 13:16:51 <V453000> !rcon reset_company 12 13:16:52 <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted. 13:17:04 <Stablean> <V453000> it is always ready for that 13:17:04 <Stablean> <Mark> i was about to do that 13:18:34 <Stablean> <V453000> too much mercy, no delay :) 13:18:46 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> but not the cargo 13:19:04 <Stablean> <V453000> you get more cargo with faster trains happy 13:19:22 <Stablean> <V453000> upgrading as soon as possible is best 13:19:28 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i see 13:21:22 <Stablean> <bon> one of you three mind help with blowing up a few houses? 13:21:28 <Stablean> <Mark> where 13:21:50 <Stablean> <bon> mark.. Bragg Creek .. I count three houses that need to be evidicted :) 13:22:25 <Stablean> <bon> thanks mark 13:22:43 <Stablean> <Mark> np 13:23:12 *** Djanxy has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:23:45 <Stablean> <V453000> Mark you need more trains 13:23:49 <Stablean> <Mark> yes 13:23:59 <Stablean> <Mark> need more stations first though 13:24:05 <Stablean> <V453000> also dont forget to replace wagons with engines :P 13:24:27 <Stablean> <Mark> oh yea 13:24:41 <Stablean> <Mark> i want to do farm supplies but not sure how/where 13:24:51 <Stablean> <V453000> welcome to FIRS "system" 13:25:01 <Stablean> <bon> mark..hmm one sec.. 13:25:41 <Stablean> <V453000> fruit certainly cant reproduce itself 13:25:44 <Stablean> <V453000> its wonderful. 13:26:27 <Stablean> <bon> well mark there is one easy way to get it.... 13:26:37 <Stablean> <Mark> steal it? :P 13:26:44 <Stablean> <bon> take the oil you have near Port Vermillion Valley ... 13:27:10 <Stablean> <bon> take it to refinery near Rochon Sands (have to go long way around the little lake tho) ... 13:27:20 <Stablean> <bon> and then you have the Machine Shop near Lottie Lake 13:27:30 <Stablean> <bon> farm+engineer supplies at same time from there tho :) 13:27:41 <Stablean> <bon> only the refinery route would need a bit of plotting 13:28:09 <Stablean> <bon> and the engineering supplies could go back to the oilwell causing a viscious circle :) 13:28:12 <Stablean> <Mark> possible 13:28:22 <Stablean> <bon> np :) 13:29:00 <Stablean> <bon> mark on one map before I had ore train going to mill which went to a metal shop which sent its supplies back to the ore mine .. its fun these 3-industry circles you can find when the landscape is right ;) 13:29:55 <Stablean> <V453000> question comes why start with fruit at all :P 13:30:05 <Stablean> <Mark> cause i want alcohol of course 13:30:19 <Stablean> <V453000> oh well then :D 13:30:38 <Stablean> <V453000> why dont you transport alcohol then :0 13:30:57 <Stablean> <V453000> our relationship is over Mark 13:30:59 <Stablean> <V453000> you ignore alcohol 13:31:02 <Stablean> <Mark> :D 13:32:04 <Stablean> <V453000> said no woman ever 13:32:06 <Stablean> <V453000> unfortunately 13:32:12 <Stablean> <Anson> you can look at it ... i am AFK a bit 13:33:11 <Stablean> <V453000> LOL bon do you really complain about wetrails if you build dual engines anyway so you cant autoreplace? 13:33:14 <Stablean> <V453000> seriously :D 13:33:16 <Stablean> <V453000> well done 13:33:22 <Stablean> <bon> you don't get it do you? 13:33:48 <Stablean> <V453000> I do, you make stupid decisions and try to blame the system instead of adapting 13:33:51 <Stablean> <bon> nope 13:33:57 <Stablean> <V453000> well then enjoy :D 13:34:05 <Stablean> <bon> yeah enjoy your naiveness 13:34:07 <Stablean> <bon> :) 13:34:29 <Stablean> <V453000> if you make it harder for yourself by having 2 engines which is incompatible with wetrail, I have no comment 13:34:51 <Stablean> <bon> nope you're the one that started it with refusing to place it in 1920 13:34:58 <Stablean> <bon> and not to mention all the things anson mentioned as well 13:35:48 <Stablean> <V453000> the train set should start with simple choices and go from there instead of starting with everything from start 13:36:04 <Stablean> <V453000> that is simply not going to change 13:36:18 <Stablean> <bon> then why is there no rail loco that can run on wet? 13:36:28 <Stablean> <V453000> universal rail? 13:36:34 <Stablean> <bon> why isn't it there in 1920 too tho? 13:36:41 <Stablean> <V453000> why should it? 13:36:48 <Stablean> <Anson> while there is no wetrail with strong wet trains, we need to use double engines ... and later we have the problems 13:37:07 <Stablean> <bon> then why did you suggest universal? ... jeeze 13:37:09 <Stablean> <Anson> or use single engines from the start and be slow with them 13:37:15 <Stablean> <V453000> wetrail with strong rails? what? 13:37:34 <Stablean> <V453000> 1 strong engine is vastly sufficient even for TL7 13:37:38 <Stablean> <Anson> those are the reasons why we would like to get wetrails right from the start (1920) 13:37:40 <Stablean> <V453000> +- 13:38:18 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont see a single problem on starting with 1 strong engine on rail and converting to wetrail in 1940 13:38:20 <Stablean> <V453000> not a single one 13:38:38 <Stablean> <bon> v453000....the strong engine can't even run on that 13:38:38 <Stablean> <V453000> ps you can always start the game in 1940 13:38:44 <Stablean> <V453000> so? 13:38:47 <Stablean> <V453000> use rail first, convert later? 13:38:53 <Stablean> <bon> that means your suggestion makes no sense 13:38:59 <Stablean> <V453000> isnt that what univrail/purr is for? 13:39:03 <Stablean> <bon> yeah..convert HOW? the engine can't run on it 13:39:13 <Stablean> <V453000> all engines can run on univrail? 13:39:27 <Stablean> *** seb12 joined the game 13:40:23 <Stablean> *** seb12 has left the game (leaving) 13:40:25 <Stablean> <Mark> :D 13:40:27 <Stablean> <V453000> we should bind !goal to !kickme 13:41:25 <Stablean> <V453000> bon are there still problems with autoreplacing over univrail? 13:41:35 <Stablean> <bon> yeah...the rail doesn't exist? :) 13:41:57 <Stablean> <bon> (it actually doesn't show up in the menu for several years at minumum) 13:42:23 <Stablean> <V453000> and purr is? 13:42:29 <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#12) 13:42:35 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 13:42:57 <V453000> or do you want to tell me that purr doesnt exist either 13:43:08 <Stablean> <Anson> all engines can run on unirail, but (as already said before) most people don't have enough money in 1940 to convert rail to unirail and later back to wet ... alternative would be to send everything to depot, convert all to wet and depot to uni, replace trains, and then continue with wet 13:43:46 <Stablean> <bon> anson and don't forget that 49kph is really crapslow...without building tons of parallel all over the place (as I am) ... 13:43:56 <Stablean> <bon> I only lucked out in that 20+ years passed by overnight so I had the fund 13:44:37 <Stablean> <Anson> converting our net now to purr costs "only" almost 20 millions 13:44:56 <V453000> which is basically nothing in 2000 13:45:07 <Stablean> <bon> and what about in 1952 when I wanted it? 13:45:09 <Stablean> <Anson> need to go AFK for maybe half an hour 13:45:15 <Stablean> <bon> ok anson 13:45:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 13:45:19 <Stablean> <bon> I may be afk by then too 13:45:20 <V453000> less tracks in 1940, less cost 13:45:23 <Stablean> <bon> nope 13:45:30 <Stablean> <bon> still had same tracks 13:45:42 <V453000> so you didnt build any tracks for 60 years 13:45:43 <V453000> congratulations 13:45:44 <Stablean> <bon> now I only finally was able to remove half of the rails atm 13:46:03 <Stablean> <bon> says mr.clueless 13:46:05 <Stablean> <bon> :) 13:46:09 <V453000> !players 13:46:11 <Stablean> V453000: Client 255 (Mauve) is CGW, in company 3 (Cresmont Express) 13:46:12 <Stablean> V453000: Client 377 (Orange) is Mark, in company 5 (Mark Transport) 13:46:12 <Stablean> V453000: Client 197 (Dark Blue) is Anson, in company 4 (happy tran sport Transport) 13:46:12 <Stablean> V453000: Client 356 (Dark Blue) is happy tran sport, in company 4 (happy tran sport Transport) 13:46:12 <Stablean> V453000: Client 358 (Brown) is bon, in company 2 (rapidee sailing co.) 13:46:13 <Stablean> V453000: Client 375 (Pale Green) is JoeSchmoe, in company 9 (JoeSchmoe Transport) 13:46:13 <V453000> fine 13:46:17 <V453000> !rcon kick 358 13:46:18 <Stablean> V453000: players 13:46:18 <Stablean> V453000: server_info 13:46:18 <Stablean> V453000: clients 13:46:18 <Stablean> V453000: echo doneclientcount 13:46:18 <Stablean> V453000: #:1(Blue) Company Name: 'Pear Transport' Year Founded: 1922 Money: 126499109 Loan: 0 Value: 126522647 (T:9, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 13:46:19 <Stablean> V453000: you have 25 more messages 13:46:19 <Stablean> *** Djanxy joined the game 13:46:39 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 13:46:43 <Stablean> <bon> you really want stop being an admin? ;) 13:46:52 <V453000> will I? 13:48:11 <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #2 13:49:15 <V453000> btw if you think calling people clueless helps your argument, not much 13:49:32 <Stablean> <bon> its because it actually is..even anson has been trying to explain it too 13:50:01 <V453000> if two wrong people meet it does not make them right 14:08:02 <Stablean> <bon> afk for a bit now...just almost done tho 14:08:05 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 14:12:30 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 14:26:56 <Stablean> *** Skarven joined the game 14:27:00 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#12) 14:27:04 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 14:27:42 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to kalijav 14:28:52 <Stablean> *** kalijav has started a new company (#12) 14:34:05 <Stablean> *** kalijav has left the game (leaving) 14:37:17 <Stablean> <Anson> back for half an hour 14:37:25 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb 14:40:36 <Stablean> *** JoeSchmoe has left the game (leaving) 14:45:22 <Stablean> *** Pear joined the game 14:50:32 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 14:51:08 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #12 14:54:12 <Stablean> <Anson> you just colored part of the mainline blue, some red, some green ... that made it even more difficult to see than if it would have stayed uncolored 14:54:49 <V453000> looks more like a parrot to me in such case 14:55:02 <V453000> 2 colours are enough imo 14:55:10 <V453000> with the rest perhaps in small details 14:55:22 <V453000> but yeah depends 14:56:01 <Stablean> <Anson> problems in communication ... the mainline should get one color to more easily see it, but i agree with you, it now is a wild parrot and even more difficult to see than if it would be uncolored 15:07:04 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 15:07:43 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (general timeout) 15:07:43 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 15:08:25 <Stablean> <V453000> oh I get it now why happy said production isnt sufficient, you dont bring ES :D 15:10:59 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 15:11:47 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:15:21 *** Mark has quit IRC 15:15:21 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 15:36:44 <Stablean> *** SSGen has started a new company (#14) 15:36:46 <Stablean> *** SSGen joined the game 15:37:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> whonts the proberm sss gen 15:37:50 <Stablean> <SSGen> first time 15:38:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> welcume to the server 15:38:16 <Stablean> <SSGen> thanks 15:38:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> np 15:38:38 <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game 15:38:42 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> read the rules ferst be for u plaly 15:38:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb mark 15:38:52 <Stablean> <Mark> :) 15:39:22 <Stablean> <SSGen> will do right now 15:39:26 <Stablean> <SSGen> thanks for info 15:39:38 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bp 15:40:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nice pax net werk cgw 15:42:30 <Stablean> *** Skarven has left the game (leaving) 15:42:42 <Stablean> *** thepower12n joined the game 15:42:44 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> cgw u got a tran q 15:44:28 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali joined the game 15:44:35 <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi 15:44:38 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 15:46:08 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has left the game (leaving) 15:46:54 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher joined the game 15:46:59 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi wood 15:47:05 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy 15:47:15 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> geesh i always miss the start 15:47:21 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi all 15:47:21 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things 15:47:27 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> good thanks, you/ 15:47:33 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ? 15:47:40 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good 15:54:10 *** JoeSchmoe_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:54:12 <JoeSchmoe_> hi 15:54:26 <Stablean> <Mark> hi 15:54:32 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 15:54:48 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi 15:55:14 <JoeSchmoe_> Anyone want to take over JoeSchmoe transport 15:55:27 <JoeSchmoe_> I must have a jam and I'm at work 15:55:47 <Stablean> <Djanxy> yup, see the jam 15:55:57 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep i see it to 15:56:15 <JoeSchmoe_> At the big station? 15:56:27 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> junk yard 15:56:30 <JoeSchmoe_> yup 15:56:47 <JoeSchmoe_> I was tinkering right before work and must have broke something 15:56:59 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hate when that happens 15:57:01 <Stablean> <Djanxy> looks like it below actually 15:57:15 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has started a new company (#15) 15:57:47 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> if u can not fixs then just send me your password and we can fixs it 15:57:49 <JoeSchmoe_> Well if anyone needs the password it is abc 15:57:59 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #9 15:58:11 <JoeSchmoe_> Thanks for the help 15:58:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> np 15:58:59 <JoeSchmoe_> feel free to take over the company and run it if you like, otherwise just parking a couple Iron Ore main trains should work 15:59:26 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i got a company but thanks 15:59:28 <Stablean> <Djanxy> I put a sign at the root of the cause 15:59:35 <Stablean> <Djanxy> so you can check later if you want 15:59:36 <JoeSchmoe_> thanks 16:00:28 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ther the tran jam is gon now 16:00:50 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 16:00:50 <JoeSchmoe_> thanks 16:00:54 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> np 16:01:46 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 16:01:57 <Stablean> <bon> hi for a few minutes mark, butcher, anson and djanxy? :) 16:02:03 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> ya know things would be a lot worse if that guy bon was here...oh HI bon! 16:02:09 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> didn't see you 16:02:15 <Stablean> <bon> butcher....worser? why?? :P 16:02:18 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol hi 16:02:20 <Stablean> <bon> should I chop you up? :) 16:02:30 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> you could try 16:02:40 <Stablean> <bon> heh...so whats going on anyway? 16:02:55 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> <- just watching atm 16:03:09 <Stablean> <bon> mark...so about yesterday..... 16:03:15 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:03:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 16:03:15 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has joined spectators 16:03:24 <Stablean> <bon> mark..check sign for your name 16:03:27 <Stablean> <bon> thats what I asked about 16:03:59 <Stablean> <Mark> oh did i build that? :D 16:04:10 <Stablean> <Mark> must have been by accident 16:04:13 <Stablean> <bon> heh :) 16:04:19 <Stablean> <Anson> happy: just finished undoing most of what your coloring has done :-( 16:04:21 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #4 16:04:23 <Stablean> <bon> anyway to kill the last rail piece finally... 16:04:49 <Stablean> <bon> and I hope next map I can finish things at a more reasonable rate 16:04:50 <Stablean> *** Pear has left the game (leaving) 16:04:58 <Stablean> <bon> I mean..seriously.. 1920>2021 and I haven't even really started yet 16:05:00 <Stablean> <bon> oh well :) 16:05:36 <Stablean> <Anson> happy : mainline is blue now, and white are all those parts which still need work (and should have stayed rails until done; but making them white now is cheaper than convertibng back to rail 16:06:22 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> crap I gotta go, cyas 16:06:28 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb 16:06:30 <Stablean> <bon> ok :) 16:06:33 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has left the game (leaving) 16:07:30 <Stablean> <bon> on for a bit...go to make lunch then be back on for a bit again...then go for my afternoon apt etc.... fun :-s 16:11:32 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 16:12:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> djanxy company 9 needs shorting out 16:18:07 <Stablean> *** SSGen has left the game (leaving) 16:24:15 <JoeSchmoe_> did it jam again 16:24:25 <Stablean> <bon> did what? 16:24:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yes 16:24:41 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #9 16:24:54 <Stablean> <bon> what jammed? :-s 16:25:06 <JoeSchmoe_> send some iron ore mains to a depot 16:25:24 <Stablean> <bon> oh lol...this is why you don't use a multi-industries station tbh 16:25:28 <JoeSchmoe_> they are the long iron ore 16:25:30 <Stablean> <bon> :) 16:25:33 <JoeSchmoe_> lol 16:25:54 <JoeSchmoe_> this is why things need to be absolutely jam proof in a server game 16:26:05 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators 16:26:09 <Stablean> <bon> and better trains? :) 16:26:15 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i thinke the scrap yard pike up need to biger 16:26:31 <Stablean> <bon> happy...it needs to be split up first 16:26:58 <JoeSchmoe_> like I said feel free to take over if you like... 16:27:12 <JoeSchmoe_> you can even put a sign there for anyone to take over 16:27:18 <Stablean> <bon> too busy being 70 years behind so no thanks sorry :) 16:27:40 <Stablean> <bon> and beside if I tried take over it would be *massive* rebuilds all over again so..yeah...pass :-s 16:27:54 <JoeSchmoe_> no prob 16:28:54 <JoeSchmoe_> it will be what it will be when I get back to it 16:29:54 *** JoeSchmoe_ has quit IRC 16:30:05 <Stablean> <bon> afk for a few minutes-ish 16:34:16 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 16:37:14 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #9 16:42:40 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 16:47:53 <Stablean> <bon> back for a short time now 16:55:11 <Stablean> *** Kardashian joined the game 16:55:39 <Stablean> *** Kardashian has left the game (leaving) 16:56:03 <Stablean> <bon> ok... 0% rails now finally... how many years has it been? -_- 16:58:04 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:58:13 <Stablean> <bon> I still think if this had been ukrs I would probably have tons of Type 4 heavy freights all over the place together with some of these southern emus for pax 16:58:17 <Stablean> <bon> but what am I saying :) 16:58:36 <Stablean> <bon> still busy like crazy there mark? 16:58:43 <Stablean> <Mark> should have just used medium class tl 3 16:58:49 <Stablean> <Mark> this is way better than ukrs 16:59:07 <Stablean> <Mark> yeah getting some trains running now 16:59:22 <Stablean> <bon> oic..did you fund the refinery or it just showed up there? 16:59:32 <Stablean> <Mark> funded it 16:59:34 <Stablean> <bon> heh :) 16:59:36 <Stablean> <Mark> both of them 17:00:10 <Stablean> <bon> well...one way or another I just hope next map has...maybe ... a bit more hills and lot less mountains 17:00:16 <Stablean> <bon> but ehhh we'll see 17:00:22 <Stablean> <Mark> not if i make it 17:00:40 <Stablean> <Mark> you can make a map yourself if you like 17:01:30 <Stablean> <bon> heh...mmm .. I'm going be out part of the day tomorrow but... I could see what I think tonight if I'm not busy online tho 17:02:08 <Stablean> <bon> btw does '!setdef' set everything or only certain items such as signals? 17:02:16 <Stablean> <Mark> only a few settings 17:02:45 <Stablean> <bon> oh ok...remind me to edit the map so its not saved with my own preferences 17:02:45 <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game 17:02:50 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi vinnie 17:02:53 <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello 17:02:59 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things 17:02:59 <Stablean> <Mark> hi 17:03:01 <Stablean> <bon> brb anyway 17:03:07 <Stablean> <Vinnie> good and with you? 17:03:11 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good 17:03:53 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has started a new company (#15) 17:05:06 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 17:10:32 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 17:10:52 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok got ot go be back later 17:11:10 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 17:20:03 <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game 17:20:45 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#15) 17:20:49 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 17:22:05 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 17:35:04 <Stablean> <bon> need to go now -_- 17:35:59 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 17:37:11 <Stablean> *** thepower12n has left the game (leaving) 17:37:28 <Stablean> *** skyem123 joined the game 17:57:34 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:57:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Jam35 18:14:49 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:14:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Maraxus 18:17:25 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 18:45:19 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 18:58:03 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has left the game (leaving) 19:01:24 <Jam35> k np 19:01:44 <Jam35> wrong channel :p 19:07:09 *** BoSS_MEECH has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:07:12 <BoSS_MEECH> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 19:07:18 <Stablean> <skyem123> what? 19:07:28 <BoSS_MEECH> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 19:07:35 <Stablean> <skyem123> ??? 19:08:15 <BoSS_MEECH> ????? 19:24:59 *** happy_ has quit IRC 19:31:25 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:31:32 <happy_> hi all 19:32:31 <Stablean> *** Mark has joined spectators 19:33:09 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 19:33:10 <BoSS_MEECH> yo! 19:44:25 <V453000> screw you meech 19:44:36 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 19:45:16 <Stablean> <V453000> Mark is not using slugs to have 1:1 ratio of the farm cargo wagons 19:45:18 <Stablean> <V453000> G_G 19:45:58 <Stablean> <V453000> [I think autoreplace removes front wagons first] 19:55:04 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 20:05:55 <Stablean> *** skyem123 has left the game (leaving) 20:11:30 <Stablean> *** Skarven joined the game 20:12:36 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (general timeout) 20:12:36 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 20:19:46 *** Mark has quit IRC 20:30:11 <Stablean> *** Skarven has left the game (leaving) 20:41:11 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined company #4 20:43:57 <Stablean> *** Muel joined the game 20:44:52 <Stablean> <Muel> hi 20:49:23 <Stablean> *** Muel has left the game (leaving) 20:58:23 <Stablean> *** Djanxy joined the game 20:58:59 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 21:03:31 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has started a new company (#15) 21:19:35 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 21:27:34 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 21:29:10 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 21:35:44 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 21:35:55 <Stablean> <bon> hey anson? :) 21:36:01 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has joined spectators 21:36:05 <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi bon 21:36:09 <Stablean> <bon> hi djanxy 21:36:51 <Stablean> <bon> I see aeg still hasn't came back yet 21:37:05 <Stablean> <bon> or...even niko..I thought I liked niko :-> 21:37:16 *** bon has joined #openttdcoop.stable 21:37:56 <Stablean> <Djanxy> im just watching the amount of pax networks on this map 21:38:12 <Stablean> <bon> heh I would had gotten into that if it wasn't for a particular gap 21:38:18 <Stablean> <bon> but maybe next map ^_^ 21:39:00 <Stablean> <Djanxy> considered building something, but all the possile spots i checked is missing an important link of the chain 21:39:11 <Stablean> <bon> mm 21:40:23 <Stablean> <bon> djanxy so do you think you like copious mountains like as this map is now? 21:40:50 <Stablean> <Djanxy> i like variety - think it's fine that some maps are like this 21:41:09 <Stablean> <Djanxy> we recently had a very flat map 21:41:35 <Stablean> <bon> mm ok just curious about what to try on a last-minute map to see if mark wants it or not ^_^ 21:41:45 <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P 21:41:51 <Stablean> <bon> still need to ask someone about some particular settings tho 21:41:57 <Stablean> <Djanxy> cant go wrong with hilly imo 21:42:08 <Stablean> <Djanxy> which ones ? 21:42:10 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:42:38 <Stablean> <bon> average bridge, townsize, etc? 21:43:13 <Stablean> <Djanxy> ah 21:43:35 <Stablean> <Djanxy> well the settings i've seen sofar has bridges from 8-12 tiles 21:46:41 <Stablean> <bon> mm yeah I was thinking of like 10 or so too 21:47:19 <Stablean> <Djanxy> and please turn inflation off, serves no real purpose here ;) 21:47:45 <Stablean> <bon> o......k 21:47:45 <Stablean> <bon> :) 21:48:15 <Stablean> <Djanxy> only really makes it much harder if you start at later date 21:48:21 <Stablean> <bon> yeah 21:56:03 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 21:56:31 <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...just asking but what you think of long mass of lands versus actual individual islands? 21:56:41 <Stablean> <bon> (I know that industry populating is another matter but heh) 21:57:19 <Stablean> <Djanxy> dont mind either, but more islands helps the seperation of companies ;) 21:57:29 <Stablean> <bon> yeah thats one thing indeed 21:58:03 <Stablean> <bon> and ofc...make sure that anything related to water (too bad it affects bridges on diagonal tiles but oh well) costs like ten billion dollars :p 21:58:09 <Stablean> <Djanxy> usual problem with islands is that there's often some smal-ishl useless ones 21:58:11 <Stablean> <bon> right? :) 21:58:23 <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah 21:58:51 <Stablean> <bon> well...the small-ish ones can be adjusted manually unless they're too small to hold anything but a tiny village right? ;) 21:59:01 <Stablean> <Djanxy> i guess 21:59:04 <Stablean> <bon> like is with Callaghan now 21:59:10 <Stablean> <bon> almost no land there heh 21:59:20 <Stablean> <Djanxy> ;) 21:59:42 <Stablean> <Djanxy> also mean stuff like Pelican Point 21:59:58 <Stablean> <bon> mmm yeah 22:00:18 <Stablean> <Djanxy> (tho that one can be reached) 22:00:40 <Stablean> <bon> mind you djanxy..one of the previous map or something...I started on a tiny island but it was only 3 tile hop over water to another island so I basically end up owning both islands and fouling any possible bridge crossing points I could with all the crosstraffics :) 22:01:02 <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah as long as they are reachable its fine 22:01:02 <Stablean> <bon> eg oilwell was on one island but refinery was on other .. same for lumber etc 22:01:04 <Stablean> <bon> that was a weird one 22:01:26 <Stablean> <bon> the only thing that didn't require the bottlenecked bridge was one coal mine and the pax services 22:01:34 <Stablean> <bon> go figure..oh well don't want repeat that anyway 22:02:25 <Stablean> <bon> djanxy you on irc too? 22:02:35 <Stablean> <Djanxy> yes 22:04:06 <bon> djanxy..so to sum it up anyway.. bridge 10, modest town sizes with slow growth, large islands, industries to be seen, absurb water costs, no planes, basecost inclusive, perhaps either arctic or temperate 22:04:13 <bon> anything else related to landscape I should think of yet? 22:04:35 <Djanxy> dont think so 22:05:08 <bon> np...will see what I play around with after supper. 50/50 chance its still one of mark's own map maybe tho 22:05:15 <Taede> high plane/boat runningcost 22:05:41 <Taede> max numbers can be changed in running game, so they are unimportant, though low (<20) is a good start 22:06:03 <bon> taede I'll prefer to allow a tiny number of ships tho (I know some people don't use them for tiny islands but mm .. we'll see anyway) 22:06:14 <Djanxy> <-afkish a bit, playing different game with a friend 22:06:20 <bon> ok djanxy..have fun 22:06:36 <bon> and planes'll be off so no need to worry about their costs :) 22:08:01 <bon> mm...what does anyone think of tropical anyway? (islands may be a bit harder with re requiring food+water constantly to grow on some tiles) 22:08:40 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has left the game (leaving) 22:29:49 <Stablean> *** T-1000 joined the game 22:30:01 <Stablean> <bon> hi t1000 22:37:19 <Stablean> *** T-1000 has left the game (leaving) 23:02:29 <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 23:08:33 <Stablean> <bon> afk to eat 23:08:43 <Stablean> *** bon has joined spectators 23:24:05 <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #2 23:24:21 <Stablean> <bon> *stares at the two other players not letting autopause happen* 23:24:27 <Stablean> <bon> heh oh well doesn't matter a lot this late now 23:32:25 <happy_> hi bon 23:33:20 *** MEECHwoooooo has joined #openttdcoop.stable 23:33:34 <MEECHwoooooo> wooooooooooo 23:33:38 <bon> how're you happy? 23:33:41 <happy_> hi 23:33:51 <happy_> good thanks 23:34:03 <happy_> how ar u 23:34:22 <bon> doing ok ty 23:34:31 <happy_> how things meech woooo 23:34:42 <MEECHwoooooo> wooooooo! 23:35:14 <Djanxy> meeeeechh wåååååååp 23:35:38 <happy_> hi djanxy 23:36:34 <Stablean> <bon> just trying to figure out where to find more recyclables...there is one with 500+ tonnes but its a bit hard to get without a short boat detour tho (city overgrow) 23:36:43 <Stablean> *** Slicey joined the game 23:38:50 <Stablean> *** CGW has left the game (general timeout) 23:38:51 <Stablean> *** CGW has left the game (connection lost) 23:39:41 <Stablean> <bon> oh....damn.... 23:39:55 <Stablean> <bon> '2106 tonnes of recyclables' .. thats quite heavy.... 23:40:09 <Stablean> <bon> hmm each ship carries 240 tonnes .. not sure I want try that 23:42:56 <MEECHwoooooo> sliceyyyyyy 23:43:03 <Stablean> <Slicey> yoooooo 23:43:23 <Stablean> <bon> say anyone seen skyem recently or not so much? 23:43:38 <MEECHwoooooo> yoyoyoy! 23:44:04 <Stablean> <Slicey> so i finally play openttd and the maps basicly full -.- 23:44:05 <MEECHwoooooo> skyem was here earlier 23:44:25 <Stablean> <bon> slicey not so much but that depends which things you're looking at 23:44:39 <Stablean> <bon> mmm meech..thanks anyway..wanted ask about an unused industry near pax station..oh well 23:44:41 <Stablean> <bon> will just wait 23:45:00 <Stablean> <Slicey> yea but i dont want to have to make an complex sysytem lol 23:45:11 <Stablean> <Slicey> ill start in a sec 23:45:13 <Stablean> <bon> slicey..so take a coal mine 23:45:23 <Stablean> <bon> goes straight to steel mill or another metal plant :P 23:45:25 <Stablean> <Slicey> hmm 23:45:31 <Stablean> <Slicey> lots of bauxite 23:45:31 <Stablean> <Slicey> also 23:45:53 <MEECHwoooooo> or ask to join another team 23:45:56 <Stablean> <bon> that goes to one specific plant but you could use that too 23:46:02 <Stablean> <bon> btw slicey... 23:46:09 <Stablean> <Slicey> yesh?? 23:46:19 <Stablean> <bon> if you see a lot of raw but no nearby refined industry...just ask me..I could probably fund one for you 23:46:37 <Stablean> <Slicey> lol ok man thanks 23:47:24 <Stablean> *** Lemon joined the game 23:48:27 <Stablean> <bon> btw someone need to kick joe's poor station layout :) 23:48:45 <Stablean> <Slicey> lol 23:49:04 <Stablean> <bon> slicey... look up Piikani... 23:49:04 <MEECHwoooooo> nice to see we have a alemon and slice here 23:49:16 <Stablean> <bon> bad design of trying to cram 4+ cargos into just one single station 23:49:26 <Stablean> <bon> I would had put at least *three* separate stationnames :) 23:49:26 <Stablean> <Slicey> i see that 23:49:40 <Stablean> <bon> and not to mention why is a train able to loop around and jam its own tail? 23:49:42 <Stablean> <bon> silly eh? 23:49:52 <Stablean> <Slicey> i just was about to say that 23:50:10 <Stablean> <Slicey> wait a second 23:50:20 <Stablean> <Slicey> what is the otehr track that loops around for???? 23:50:22 <Stablean> <bon> I signed the specific train in question .. aka train 18 23:50:25 <Stablean> <Slicey> other* 23:50:28 <Stablean> <bon> you tell me! 23:50:42 <Stablean> <Slicey> he should give me his stuff lol jk :) 23:50:42 <Stablean> <bon> aka I got no f----ing clue :) 23:50:44 <Stablean> <bon> hehehehe 23:50:55 <Stablean> <Slicey> but rly 23:51:01 <Stablean> <bon> slicey...I think joe did mention wanting to give co to someone but I turned it down as I would had blown up a lot of it 23:51:37 <Stablean> <bon> you always could try catch joe and ask tho 23:51:43 <Stablean> <Slicey> im literaly puzzled why there is that looping track 23:51:58 <Stablean> <bon> as I said...NO CLUE 23:52:00 <Stablean> <bon> ;) 23:52:18 <Stablean> <Slicey> any chance you could fund an aluminum plant?? 23:52:25 <Stablean> *** Slicey has started a new company (#15) 23:52:41 <Stablean> <bon> like what town are the mines-or-whatever close to? 23:53:28 <Stablean> <Slicey> at sign !aluminum plant 23:53:39 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 23:53:51 <Stablean> <bon> so you going use the bauxite mines near camrose right? 23:54:01 <Stablean> <Slicey> yup the 4 23:54:15 <Stablean> <Slicey> then theres 3 near Charles lake 23:54:26 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #9 23:54:42 <Stablean> <bon> ok one sec then 23:55:56 <Stablean> <Slicey> ty :) 23:56:19 <Stablean> <bon> there you go..have fun 23:56:37 <Stablean> <Slicey> must destroy all trees!!!! 23:56:49 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 23:57:01 <Stablean> *** Lemon has left the game (leaving) 23:57:05 <Stablean> <bon> and btw.... 23:57:16 <Stablean> <bon> you don't have to really destroy trees...just hit Transparency for the moment 23:57:18 <Stablean> <Slicey> yes?? 23:57:19 <Stablean> <bon> ;) 23:57:28 <Stablean> <Slicey> i know i dont like trees 23:57:32 <Stablean> <Slicey> well in the game 23:57:42 <Stablean> <bon> well you need to mind mayor ratings 23:57:49 <Stablean> <bon> otherwise any stations inside town zones will be denied 23:57:51 <Stablean> <bon> :) 23:58:09 <Stablean> <bon> anyway have fun moving lot of ores :) 23:58:15 <Stablean> <Slicey> oh yea :) 23:58:26 <Stablean> <Slicey> for now a simple track :) 23:58:48 <Stablean> <bon> why not double in first place?? :P 23:59:07 <Stablean> <bon> this should boot you into doing that plus getitng decent trains 23:59:21 <Stablean> <bon> hehehe 23:59:23 <Stablean> <Slicey> well my siple is double :) 23:59:29 <Stablean> <Slicey> and ty :P 23:59:31 <Stablean> <Slicey> simple* 23:59:57 <Stablean> <bon> umm...lol for a moment I was like X_<