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00:00:04  <Stablean> <bon> what kind of name is "sexsmith"
00:00:05  <Stablean> <bon> geeze
00:00:13  <Stablean> <bon> almost sounds like a sexy blacksmither
00:00:27  <Stablean> <bon> *wonders just where in alberta that town is from now*
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00:02:22  <Stablean> <Slicey> i know lol i needed a start
00:02:33  <Stablean> <bon> ehh ok just a future reminder then :p
00:02:39  <Stablean> <bon> and you forgot the crossovers at the dropoff station
00:02:45  <Stablean> <Slicey> yup
00:03:23  <Stablean> <bon> you need to slow down a bit and look at the land :)
00:03:29  <Stablean> <bon> but heh have fun with the first trains ;)
00:03:49  <Stablean> <Slicey> usually after i get a steady income i do the cl etc
00:04:07  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
00:04:09  <Stablean> <bon> well the trains easily do 140+kph now.. so a 88kph curve in middle isn't much fun
00:04:11  <Stablean> <bon> but anyway yeah :)
00:04:59  <Stablean> <bon> btw for that particular line you'll be fine with MEDIUM (or just one single STRONG on front)
00:05:02  <Stablean> <bon> up to you anyway
00:05:20  <Stablean> <Slicey> yea im using medium for no
00:05:22  <Stablean> <Slicey> now
00:05:40  <Stablean> <bon> FAST usually is a bit tricky ... unless you only have short trains on relative flat routes... afaik :)
00:05:46  <Stablean> <bon> (I don't even use it much either)
00:06:04  <Stablean> <Slicey> now to make a slh
00:06:12  <Stablean> <Slicey> hmmmm
00:06:15  <Stablean> <bon> wait till you have at least 2+ routes first?
00:06:19  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:06:25  <Stablean> <Slicey> yea but im planning ahead
00:06:31  <Stablean> <bon> np
00:06:31  <Stablean> <Slicey> :)
00:06:49  <Stablean> <bon> btw getting beyond Chipman may be a bit tricky but I'll leave that to you ;)
00:07:20  <Stablean> <Slicey> i got this :P
00:07:32  <Stablean> <bon> you want a big challenge for later on?
00:07:46  <Stablean> <Slicey> maybe.....
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00:08:02  <Stablean> <bon> try move 2000+ tonnes of recyclables without jamming up things (I passed up since one ship only takes 240-280 tonnes per trip) ... its near camrose
00:08:12  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
00:08:38  <Stablean> <bon> anyway I think thats enough to say for now :P
00:08:54  <Stablean> <Slicey> u think i should buy another train?
00:09:06  <Stablean> <bon> two is usually good so I would say yeah
00:09:48  <Stablean> <bon> I usually have two trains per any industries unless its really short distance anyway
00:10:50  <Stablean> <Slicey> hey whats the transparent key again
00:11:04  <Stablean> <bon> no idea sorry
00:11:10  <Stablean> <Slicey> ... alright
00:11:16  <Stablean> <bon> (X always seem to do the wrong thing anyway)
00:11:46  <Stablean> <bon> you could look up the help wiki
00:11:52  <Stablean> <bon> but don't forget to have fun here :P hehehe
00:11:55  <Stablean> <Slicey> i probably should
00:12:01  <Stablean> <Slicey> lol
00:14:51  <Stablean> <Slicey> dang 2t per 8t bauxite hmm
00:15:05  <Stablean> <Slicey> 4t for scarp metal though
00:15:15  <Stablean> <bon> well you have a lot of bauxite so it'll be too easy tbh
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00:19:49  <Stablean> <bon> heh I kinda think this is a bit funny.. I have a 3-route chain
00:19:56  <Stablean> <Slicey> hm when should i start to advance toward the machine shop?
00:20:10  <Stablean> <bon> slicey...machine shop?
00:20:13  <Stablean> <Slicey> ?
00:20:19  <Stablean> <bon> where? :)
00:20:21  <Stablean> <Slicey> oh
00:20:39  <Stablean> <Slicey> i thought the stock yard was a machine shop
00:20:42  <Stablean> <Slicey> oh ....
00:20:48  <Stablean> <bon> ...heh :)
00:21:06  <Stablean> <bon> stick to getting all mines connected first ok? :)
00:21:12  <Stablean> <Slicey> yup yup
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00:21:36  <Stablean> <bon> ah happy...so you know joe? mmm ok
00:21:39  <Stablean> <bon> guess that helps a bit
00:22:25  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer     i  try  to  keep  it  moving  thats the best i can doo
00:23:08  <Stablean> <bon> I decided to torture you a bit :P
00:23:30  <Stablean> <bon> see sign...you'll know which one
00:23:32  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:23:42  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
00:24:00  <Stablean> <bon> happy...eh wasn't talking to you but anyway ;)
00:24:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> np
00:24:18  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i no
00:24:24  <Stablean> <bon> btw happy...it looks like tons of trains are sitting at platform again
00:24:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer  the  metal   shop  has  gon
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00:26:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> and  ther  no  room  for  a new  won
00:28:03  <Stablean> <bon> looks like a jam is incoming again
00:28:05  <Stablean> <Slicey> yea i could use the fab plant but i would like engineer materials so i can boost mine but
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00:28:39  <Stablean> <bon> it'll probably be better to actually fix it
00:28:41  <Stablean> <bon> but ehh
00:29:11  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem   i am not  the best  player  for  that
00:29:17  <Stablean> <bon> yeah perhaps :-s
00:29:27  <Stablean> <bon> wheres anson anyway? he's still in company
00:29:34  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
00:30:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> he  be back ver  late
00:30:02  <Stablean> <bon> ok :)
00:30:08  <Stablean> <bon> I'm going build some more things as usual now finally
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00:33:45  <Stablean> <bon> hi joe..you have a big task? :)
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00:34:03  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep good  luck
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00:36:41  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  wood
00:36:44  <Stablean> <bon> hi butcher-of-wood
00:36:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
00:36:46  <Stablean> <bon> hehehe
00:36:49  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy
00:36:57  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> good thanks you?
00:36:59  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi bon
00:37:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
00:37:06  <Stablean> <bon> doing ok here..finally adding more industries online
00:37:17  <Stablean> <bon> still have some absent pickups to do yet (that is..dropoff yes but pickup no)
00:37:19  <Stablean> <bon> but oh well :)
00:38:38  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher btw...
00:38:52  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yes?
00:38:52  <Stablean> <bon> I kinda have a funny four-towns "network"
00:39:00  <Stablean> <bon> check The Orchards and follow it
00:39:14  <Stablean> <bon> a passenger going more than one stop further has to change train but ehh I'm just being silly
00:40:41  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> is that a town or wha?
00:40:44  <Stablean> <bon> yes
00:40:54  <Stablean> <bon> (weird name I know...need to find where it is in alberta map)
00:41:08  <Stablean> <bon> and if you want another weird name..what the heck is Sexsmith?? a sexy blacksmither? ;)
00:41:18  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh found it...
00:41:18  <Stablean> <bon> I only noticed it when helping out slicey :p
00:41:24  <Stablean> <Slicey> :)
00:41:39  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> I've been to Intercourse
00:42:35  <Stablean> <bon> I tell you something I do know tho...
00:42:46  <Stablean> <bon> up north (probably WAY up) there is really a street named Shit Road
00:42:52  <Stablean> <bon> probably someone too bored with 'nothing' up there
00:42:54  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:43:08  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> I know there is a town called 'chicken' alaska
00:43:26  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> they wanted to name the town after the state bird but nobody knew how to spell it
00:43:28  <Stablean> <bon> or down in the warmer area of I think ontario (or was it another provinence?) there is a town named Welcome
00:43:30  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> so they called it chicken
00:43:38  <Stablean> <bon> so you can imagine how weird it sounds at first to say 'welcome to welcome!'
00:43:57  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> maybe they just say welcome
00:44:07  <Stablean> <bon> maybe but seriously...why? :P
00:44:11  <Stablean> <bon> the thing certain people do
00:47:02  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> are the industries different for the different landscapes?  like artic, etc?
00:47:06  <Stablean> <bon> finally found something to do sand with!
00:47:24  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
00:47:28  <Stablean> <bon> butcher..nope...unless you use a parameter to "reduce" the list (eg no chemical diagrams etc)
00:47:42  <Stablean> <bon> its not climate specific tho
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00:48:59  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> weird cause if you look at the industry chain it says a recycling plant produces scrap
00:49:13  <Stablean> <Darkchaos> Hey.
00:49:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
00:49:25  <Stablean> <bon> butcher...probably because its a "heap of metal junks" to be melted down by a steelmill
00:49:27  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> but if you click on the plant icon it says farm suppies and manufac supplies
00:50:13  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> know what i mean?
00:50:19  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> and hi
00:51:01  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> woah now that's a tunnel
00:51:09  <Stablean> <bon> a....where? :)
00:51:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> under ellersile annex
00:51:37  <Stablean> <bon> long tunnel somewhere?
00:52:12  <Stablean> <bon> oh
00:52:22  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> wonder what that cost
00:52:26  <Stablean> <bon> tbh he souldn't have bothered
00:52:33  <Stablean> <bon> its one little town already in *mark*'s space
00:52:35  <Stablean> <bon> oh well
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00:55:17  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher btw what think of my nice "little" both-directions shed?
00:55:23  <Stablean> <bon> i signed it 'fancy shed' a longggg time ago
00:55:27  <Stablean> <bon> hehehe :)
00:56:21  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> nice shed
00:56:44  <Stablean> <bon> thanks...the long buffer serves little purpose now tho since I'm using the one same old ship model .. no need for autoreplace anymore
00:57:46  <Stablean> <bon> its only one single shed for the whole network which suits me fine anyway :)
00:57:54  <Stablean> <bon> (only the pax is isolated but for good reason)
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01:00:19  <Stablean> <bon> hi djanxy
01:00:21  <Stablean> <bon> been a bit busy here :)
01:00:23  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi
01:00:27  <Stablean> <Darkchaos> Hey.
01:00:29  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
01:00:29  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ye saw on irc ;)
01:00:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
01:01:03  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy I think i've doubled my number of ships anyway :)
01:01:09  <Stablean> <bon> still could be doing more tho heh
01:01:12  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hehe
01:01:23  <Stablean> <bon> oh and a bit of a funny "linear" pax network too
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01:02:17  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> weird it seems recycling plants don't all produce the same stuff
01:02:27  <Stablean> <bon> really? let me look too
01:03:01  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> look at brazeau, fort chiepewyan and oil city
01:03:43  <Stablean> <bon> ah..you do get supplies but I guess they used a callback to randomize a few different secondary outputs
01:03:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> eney  way  i be  back   i got to  swich  to  the  irc  on my  phon
01:03:56  <Stablean> <bon> makes sense tho
01:03:58  <Stablean> <bon> ok happy
01:04:13  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be  back  in 10   mints
01:04:19  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> k
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01:04:51  <Stablean> <bon> there is one little funny thing I found once tho...
01:04:51  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> vimy produces scrap
01:05:05  <Stablean> <bon> go to Little Fish Lake ... and check the nearby recycling depot....
01:05:19  <Stablean> <bon> its only 16 tonnes so you are like "wtf is that a bug?" till you read the window's title...
01:05:25  <Stablean> <bon> and realize its from the other town over the water
01:05:27  <Stablean> <bon> weird tho :)
01:05:41  <Stablean> <bon> Little Fish Lake is too huge to be only 16 tonnes anyway
01:05:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hehe
01:06:05  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> they must row it over in boats
01:06:07  <Stablean> <bon> ha
01:06:14  <Stablean> <bon> anyway where to build next for now...
01:08:24  <Stablean> <bon> *thinks*
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01:12:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> feel like building - giv new map :D
01:12:38  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> could probably do a company just from the recycling from camrose
01:12:42  <Stablean> <bon> theres still tons to connect here silly
01:12:52  <Stablean> <bon> butcher...aye..would need a high-speed high-capacity route tho
01:12:58  <Stablean> <bon> hence why I passed up on it :)
01:13:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> well, the'res no company spots left either
01:14:04  <Stablean> <bon> there is...one is going bankrupt
01:14:26  <Stablean> <bon> pyetro in fact...just wait a few minutes :)
01:15:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ah yeah, might go soon - went below max loan
01:15:07  <Stablean> <bon> :D
01:15:17  <Stablean> <Djanxy> lol
01:15:29  <Stablean> <Djanxy> speaking of the devil
01:15:47  <Stablean> <bon> mm?
01:18:14  <Stablean> <Djanxy> joe, you got trains going in circles around a station full with pickup trains
01:18:32  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yup
01:18:38  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> i'm working on it
01:18:44  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oki ;9
01:19:02  <Stablean> <bon> tbh...just for a future note sake...do use dedicated stations
01:19:08  <Stablean> <bon> but have fun atm
01:19:22  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> thanks
01:24:29  <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has started a new company (#11)
01:24:38  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> pink!
01:25:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> lemme know if you need some building done :D
01:25:40  <Stablean> <bon> butcher :p
01:25:42  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nah
01:25:49  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...well...nah I'm too busy alone atm :)
01:26:12  <Stablean> <bon> finally catching up with having gotten almost nothing till like 2019-2021 ... so meh yeah
01:26:30  <Stablean> <bon> and so far I think I like my catch-all-freights-on-one network :)
01:27:28  <Stablean> <Djanxy> cant find a good spot with some decent chains - and if i'm gonna play firs i want at least that :D
01:28:14  <Stablean> <bon> I see too many chains
01:28:14  <Stablean> <bon> :P
01:28:21  <Stablean> <bon> unused chains that is
01:29:07  <Stablean> <Djanxy> like?
01:29:13  <Stablean> <bon> butcher...do you want brown instead? brown=wood :)
01:29:19  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol na
01:29:33  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i don't mind pink
01:29:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> he prefers pink
01:29:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol
01:29:37  <Stablean> <bon> heh ok..only other colour I could take would be cream anyway :)
01:29:52  <Stablean> <bon> mmm...I should put a HQ after so long..
01:30:26  <Stablean> <bon> now where to go next as usual
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01:32:38  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> well folks I gotta go
01:32:44  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> have fun
01:32:46  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cyas
01:32:48  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nn
01:32:48  <Stablean> <bon> ok :)
01:32:54  <Stablean> <bon> maybe I'll get to 50+ ships :P
01:32:57  <Stablean> <bon> heh
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01:42:23  <Stablean> <bon> wb...wondered where you were :)
01:42:37  <Stablean> <Slicey> :P
01:43:15  <Stablean> <Slicey> man i can prospect a junk yard but what if it spawns across map -.-
01:43:57  <Stablean> <bon> thats the hard thing yeah :-/
01:44:00  <Stablean> <bon> btw I wanted ask you something
01:44:07  <Stablean> <Slicey> hm?
01:44:45  <Stablean> <bon> ok if I drop off chemical at your plant at a later time?
01:44:48  <Stablean> <bon> or you prefer to get your own?
01:45:06  <Stablean> <Slicey> honestly knock your self out
01:45:14  <Stablean> <bon> heh ok I'll think about it
01:45:16  <Stablean> <Slicey> as long as i can transport the building supplies
01:45:19  <Stablean> <bon> see if I want sent it somewhere internally first
01:45:22  <Stablean> <Slicey> or some
01:45:36  <Stablean> <bon> ok :)
01:45:46  <Stablean> <bon> building supplies goes to a small shop usually just within skirt of town
01:45:48  <Stablean> <bon> if you didn't know that yet
01:45:54  <Stablean> <Slicey> yup
01:46:04  <Stablean> <bon> btw theres one at Sexsmith
01:46:12  <Stablean> <bon> and just some flat land on top of mountain for a platform of yours own :)
01:46:14  <Stablean> <Slicey> i saw that
01:46:17  <Stablean> <bon> heh :P
01:46:20  <Stablean> <bon> mentioned it anyway ;)
01:46:44  <Stablean> <bon> I see you got all nearby mines
01:46:50  <Stablean> <bon> till need to go to chipman+ eh?
01:46:52  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:46:52  <Stablean> <Slicey> lol honestly im not going for a big network and yup :)
01:47:14  <Stablean> <bon> :P
01:47:24  <Stablean> <bon> mine may still keep grow and grow tomorrow but we'll see
01:47:34  <Stablean> <bon> have to be out lunch and most of afternoon so mmm yeah :-/
01:47:36  <Stablean> <Slicey> first i dont have the money and limited resources lol
01:47:43  <Stablean> <bon> umm say that again? :)
01:47:54  <Stablean> <Slicey> for a big network
01:48:04  <Stablean> <bon> *drowns you in a pile of ONE BILLION loonies*
01:48:10  <Stablean> <Slicey> lololololol
01:48:16  <Stablean> <bon> I could do that for real..if you ask ;)
01:48:22  <Stablean> <Slicey> na man
01:48:28  <Stablean> <bon> ok :P
01:48:31  <Stablean> <Slicey> its the resources i need not the $
01:48:45  <Stablean> <bon> so go grab the other mines near edge of map then!
01:48:47  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:48:50  <Stablean> <Slicey> .....
01:48:56  <Stablean> <bon> btw just another thought...
01:49:07  <Stablean> <bon> see sign nearby
01:49:14  <Stablean> <bon> easier way to reach than trying to jump sloped rails
01:49:20  <Stablean> <Slicey> yup
01:49:36  <Stablean> <bon> anyway I'll leave your rails up to you ;)
01:49:46  <Stablean> <bon> meanwhile back to more water for me ... umm I mean... boats over land ;)
01:50:02  <Stablean> <bon> slicey oh that reminds me of something silly once...
01:50:08  <Stablean> <bon> transporting water with boats riding on water
01:50:12  <Stablean> <bon> sounds dumb doesn't it?
01:50:18  <Stablean> <Slicey> kinda :)
01:50:24  <Stablean> <bon> :P
01:50:42  <Stablean> <bon> it was some earlier tropical map
01:52:56  <Stablean> <Slicey> i hit the jackpot of ............
01:53:00  <Stablean> <Slicey> bauxite :P
01:53:14  <Stablean> <bon> ha? :)
01:53:32  <Stablean> <Slicey> i will have about 10 mines of bauxite :)
01:53:32  <Stablean> <bon> me just tweaking things a bit now..since going to bed soon
01:53:34  <Stablean> <Slicey> connected
01:53:46  <Stablean> <bon> tomorrow have several more major things to do
01:53:48  <Stablean> <Slicey> its onlt 5 :53pm here :P
01:53:54  <Stablean> <Slicey> only
01:53:56  <Stablean> <bon> 20:54:07 here ;)
01:53:59  <Stablean> <Slicey> ;o
01:54:25  <Stablean> <bon> the only thing I have't done yet is supplies of all three sorts..but thats for tomorrow anyway
01:54:59  <Stablean> <bon> oh and metal too
01:55:09  <Stablean> <bon> but mm yeah still always something major to do yet
01:55:11  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:55:57  <Stablean> <bon> I hope that fertilizer plant near wheatland stays there...if not thats ok I'll fund another one for the farm supplies from the refinery's output :)
01:57:13  <Stablean> <bon> oh anson's finally awake!
02:00:55  <Stablean> <bon> meh wish I had a little bit more recyclables...but tomorrow probably :)
02:00:59  <Stablean> <Slicey> lol
02:03:45  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh.. may as well as see about lifting that one thats only accessible by boat maybe
02:06:12  <Stablean> <bon> know what I'll just wait for tomorrow and let the scrap boats sit waiting
02:07:22  <Stablean> <bon> remind me tomorrow I really need to pick up from the refinery..it always has too much in production :->
02:07:24  <Stablean> <bon> heh
02:09:47  <Stablean> <bon> slicey you know what would be a bit silly?
02:10:45  <Stablean> <bon> a captain stopping his boat near another one heading in other direction and yell "yer know where coal mine is?" because he's completely lost :)
02:11:15  <Stablean> <bon> it possibly could happen if you look at my network...several major junctions without counting the station-only ones yet :)
02:11:43  <Stablean> <bon> and especially that one large linkup near The Orchards
02:12:01  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
02:14:07  <Stablean> <bon> oh yeah....probably have to fund a fishing harbour tomorrow.....too much to do >_<
02:14:54  <Stablean> <bon> at least I know I'm probably staying at the size I am at ... aside to maybe just going a bit closer to Chestermere
02:15:00  <Stablean> <bon> already getting a bit large here :->
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02:18:10  <Stablean> <bon> sorry wrong menu :)
02:20:56  <Stablean> <bon> ok thats probably it for tonight...going watch a little before I go
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02:25:35  <Stablean> <bon> bye anson, joe, and slicey
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02:29:32  <Stablean> <Slicey> hello?
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03:07:18  <BoSS_MEECH> :D
03:07:20  <BoSS_MEECH> bbiab
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03:27:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yoyoyoyo
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03:56:21  <BiG_MEECH> re-wooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOoooOOOooOOOoooOOOOOO! x3
04:25:03  <BiG_MEECH> woo? :)
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04:29:28  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> Hello!
04:29:34  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> hi
04:30:09  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> Aww, looks like BigGUI doesn't quite work with this server. No biggie
04:30:31  <Stablean> <Djanxy> literally :D
04:30:37  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> Hah
04:30:43  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> Nice one XD
04:31:03  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> But yeah. I didn't realise how tiny the icons were until just now
04:31:29  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i got used to this, now BigGUI is just too big for me :d
04:32:43  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> Might be a good idea for me to memorize the keybinds for different windows instead
04:32:50  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> I know I've accidentally stumbled across a couple of them
04:33:00  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> Normally when force of habit causes me to use WASD to scroll the map
04:33:08  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ;P
04:33:34  <Stablean> <Djanxy> http://wiki.openttd.org/Hotkeys
04:33:41  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> Ta!
04:33:48  <Stablean> <Djanxy> np
04:34:42  <BiG_MEECH> I am master of BiG GUI
04:35:24  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> Whoops, missed that message. Lemme see if I can find the chatlog
04:35:46  <Stablean> <Djanxy> press "½" for console
04:35:57  <Stablean> <Djanxy> or whatever you have to the left of "1"
04:36:01  <BiG_MEECH> ` <-
04:36:05  <BiG_MEECH> tilde
04:36:51  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> Took a couple of tries but I got it, thanks!
04:37:05  <BiG_MEECH> np
04:41:52  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> So wait, how are you the master of Big GUI? :o
04:42:11  <Stablean> <Djanxy> im not
04:42:43  <BiG_MEECH> I am.
04:42:45  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> BiG_MEECH said they were
04:42:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> aha
04:42:57  <BiG_MEECH> Im master of everything BiG
04:43:11  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> Wait, are you the creator of it? :o
04:43:14  <BiG_MEECH> cars real big pockets real big let me tell you how I live
04:43:19  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> (Sorry, it's way late here)
04:43:25  <Stablean> <Djanxy> pro tip - dont trust anything meech says
04:43:31  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> Duly noted
04:43:38  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
04:43:39  <BiG_MEECH> Drink Gasoline. Its good.
04:43:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> see?
04:44:11  <BiG_MEECH> 91 octane bitches.
04:44:12  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i supect he is good old fashioend bonkers
04:44:31  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> I suppose he is a gas guzzler
04:45:03  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i've really stopped trying to figure out what he is
04:45:16  <BiG_MEECH> ONE WORD. BOSS.
04:45:27  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
04:45:29  <BiG_MEECH> G-HUSTLER
04:48:10  <BiG_MEECH> MO-MONEY-BALLER
04:48:27  <Stablean> <Djanxy> bored? :D
04:48:32  <BiG_MEECH> Nah
04:48:34  <BiG_MEECH> too busy ballin'
04:48:41  <Stablean> <Djanxy> true
04:49:08  <Stablean> <Djanxy> a while since i've seen you build
04:49:28  <BiG_MEECH> Yeah, I really havent had the time lately actually
04:49:38  <Stablean> <Djanxy> fair enough
04:49:40  <BiG_MEECH> I wish I could play
04:50:01  <BiG_MEECH> Lots of real life stuff and I got addicted to playing ' evil genius ' again
04:50:12  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hehe
04:50:18  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> I'm pondering hopping in, just got back into OpenTTD recently
04:50:31  <BiG_MEECH> Well, this is the right place to get started
04:50:32  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> Though it is nearly 5am here in the UK and I might not be fully coherent, but still
04:50:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> this map is a bit crowded by now though
04:51:09  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hoping a new might come up tomorrow
04:51:17  <BiG_MEECH> !date
04:51:18  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH:  6 Oct 2077
04:51:23  <BiG_MEECH> yeah maybe tomorrow
04:51:26  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> I noticed :o It's nice being able to eyeball other folks' transport systems though
04:51:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> not that i wanna discourage you from starting though
04:51:48  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> Maybe I'll get an idea of how to make tracks like a competent player
04:52:01  <BiG_MEECH> best thing to do is copy other people here
04:52:06  <BiG_MEECH> they usually do it the right way
04:52:14  <Stablean> <Djanxy> there's a few tracks on this map you shouldnt look too closely at then :D
04:52:16  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> I mostly know really basic single-track setups at the moment
04:52:34  <Stablean> <ChazGELF> As well as the basics of putting together a feeder service
04:52:35  <BiG_MEECH> Sure
04:53:02  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> you can tell him not to copy me
04:53:02  <BiG_MEECH> You will be an awesome player the longer you hang out here
04:53:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> heh joe
04:54:02  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> it may not be the most efficient station but its flowing and should be jam proof
04:54:45  <Stablean> <Djanxy> take a look at company 4+5, they're probably the nicest networks atm on this map
04:56:08  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I understand seperating the stations out...
04:56:48  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> but with firs in place and not having insane outputs I think doing some combining can work
04:56:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh, that was meant for Chaz really :D
04:57:04  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> Hey i'm still learning too
04:57:10  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah sure :D
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04:57:37  <Stablean> <Djanxy> dividing drop/pickup is really nice though
04:57:40  <Stablean> <Chaz> There, just gonna keep my name simple for now
04:57:46  <Stablean> <Djanxy> as im sure you've found out
04:58:05  <Stablean> <Chaz> It's super cool what can be done in this game
04:58:15  <Stablean> <Chaz> I was teaching a friend the very basics that I knew last night
04:58:26  <Stablean> <Chaz> We ran a helluva ramshackle company but we made money and we had fun
04:58:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hehe
04:58:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> that's most important
04:58:49  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yes splitting can be nice I will do more of that next game
04:59:03  <Stablean> <Chaz> I might do a small passenger transport thing while I'm here
04:59:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> only a couple of months ago really that i got back to openttd, before that i had the same experience as you describe
04:59:35  <Stablean> <Chaz> Long as I find a small settlement  that nobody'll mind me building near
05:00:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> but found a youtube video one day, with a review of a ProZone game (also part of the openttdcoop community like this server) - then i was hooked ;)
05:00:33  <Stablean> <Chaz> Oh man, I might need to check that out
05:00:47  <Stablean> <Chaz> I just remember playing TTD when I was a kid and being pretty clueless but having fun
05:00:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah same
05:00:56  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I only started on openttd about two weeks ago
05:01:02  <Stablean> <Djanxy> now, it's a completely different experience
05:02:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> if you wanna check out the video just search for" prozone game review 19" on youtube
05:02:32  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> any way to clear the ships getting old message easily?
05:02:46  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> it not replacing ships one by one
05:03:04  <Stablean> <Chaz> If I remember right on the wiki there's a way to set conditional orders
05:03:24  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yup, its a drop down under goto
05:03:30  <Stablean> <Chaz> So you can set your boat to go get serviced shortly before the end of its life
05:03:44  <Stablean> <Chaz> I dunno if that'll stop the getting old messages but might be worth a try
05:03:44  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> oh yeah
05:04:04  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> they turn off breakdowns on the servers so end of life doesn't matter
05:04:10  <Stablean> <Chaz> Ahhh
05:04:15  <BiG_MEECH> Well
05:04:16  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yup, no breakdowns here
05:04:19  <Stablean> <Djanxy> thank god
05:04:19  <BiG_MEECH> End of life does matter somewhat
05:04:28  <BiG_MEECH> station rating
05:04:30  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> how so?
05:04:36  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> oh yeah
05:04:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> in which way?
05:04:52  <BiG_MEECH> even though it doesnt have effect on breakdowns
05:05:04  <BiG_MEECH> Well Im pretty sure I was told that it lowers station rating if you have older trains
05:05:12  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh really
05:05:14  <Stablean> <Chaz> Okay lemme think... I could get a little service going between University Heights and Bawlf
05:05:14  <BiG_MEECH> Im guess its very minimal
05:05:30  <Stablean> <Chaz> Though whether it'd be worth going rail or whether I should keep it simple is a toughie
05:05:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> go rail
05:05:49  <BiG_MEECH> Obviously your passengers want shiny trans and not dilapidated 1532 year old trains sending them from place to place
05:05:57  <Stablean> <Chaz> Suppose the server's gonna be getting a reset soon, so yeah, gonna go for it
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05:06:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> it's all about trains on this server also
05:06:32  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
05:06:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> planes are disabled and ships/road vehicles have a low max setting
05:06:58  <Stablean> <Chaz> Alright, cool
05:07:01  <Stablean> <Chaz> Also hi Anson!
05:07:39  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hmm joe
05:07:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> jam alert
05:08:07  <BiG_MEECH> Jam35?
05:08:08  <Stablean> <Anson> http://wiki.openttd.org/Game_mechanics#Station_rating
05:08:14  <Stablean> <Djanxy> not that jam
05:08:24  <Stablean> <Djanxy> the train kind of jam
05:08:42  <BiG_MEECH> Jam35 is good at jamming trains
05:08:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i bet ;)
05:08:56  <Stablean> <Anson> station ratings get a bonus if trains are 0-3 years old ... but else it doesn't matter whether 4 or 400
05:09:06  <BiG_MEECH> Well there you go
05:09:14  <Stablean> <Djanxy> lol 3 years
05:09:16  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> so am I, I just jammed the station
05:09:35  <Stablean> <Anson> if you don't want the messages, there is some setting in the advanced settings
05:09:58  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> actually i think it would have worked itself out given enough time
05:10:46  <Stablean> <Anson> advanced settings > interface > news and messages > advice/info on company's vehicles
05:10:48  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh it's refits, didnt even notice
05:11:46  <Stablean> <Anson> but i don't know which other messages besides the old trains are disabled by this too
05:12:04  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i think the only important-ish one is lost trains
05:12:18  <Stablean> <Anson> lost trains is another opton
05:12:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> and negative profit i guess
05:12:24  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh
05:13:26  <Stablean> <Anson> lost trains option is at advanced settings > vehicles > warn if vehicle is lost
05:13:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> anyways Joe, i thing I'd say you may wanna pay attention to next map is curvelengths
05:13:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> 1 thing rather
05:14:05  <Stablean> <Anson> and right next to the lost trains option is the option for negative income on a vehicle
05:15:28  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i think the first setting you mentioned overrules the others though, since i dont get lost/income even though they are turned on
05:16:02  <Stablean> <Anson> general hint for this server : it is mostly about train networks, and thus RV, planes and ships are either set to "only a few (0-10), or are made costly, or both ...- thus watch the prices :-)
05:17:28  <Stablean> <Anson> i have set most infos to "summary" ... then you only get them as scrolling text and not a window
05:18:59  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : there is a config file for the keyboard shortcuts ... i have changed quite a lot in it :-)
05:19:09  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yup, same here
05:20:17  <Stablean> <Anson> most of all, i have set "autobuild" for all vehicle types ... A=trains, shift-A=RV, ctrl-A=ships, ctrl-shift-A=planes :-)
05:20:44  <Stablean> <Chaz> Oooh
05:21:36  <Stablean> <Anson> then all other keys are "local" to that type, eg S=signal for trains, one way street (kind of a 1way signal :-) for RV, etc ... or P=depots
05:22:24  <Stablean> <Anson> F=station, G=second type of station for RV, waypoints for trains, etc
05:23:16  <Stablean> <Anson> too bad that you can't change cursor keys ... at least i found no such option
05:23:46  <Stablean> <Anson> I'm always tempted to use mouse with right hand and then WASD with left
05:24:06  <Stablean> <Chaz> Same here
05:24:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you mean for panning the map ?
05:24:31  <Stablean> <Chaz> Yeah
05:24:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy>  ah, i just use to mouse to drag
05:25:46  <Stablean> <Anson> that is the problem : how do you move the map with the right mouse button while you draw rails with the left ?
05:26:05  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i dont
05:26:23  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i rarely build rails longer at a time than fits my screen
05:26:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> or i zoom out
05:26:52  <Stablean> <Anson> global replace of rails : scroll to one corner, click and hold mouse button, scroll to opposite corner. done
05:27:30  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: shift-cursor keys speeds up the scrolling
05:27:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> open viewport in one corner, have camera in the other - drag from camera view into viewport window
05:28:00  <Stablean> <Chaz> Also I am not very used to the trains included on this server, but I'll probably get the hang of it soon
05:28:26  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah, you will after a while
05:28:28  <Stablean> <Chaz> I'm just used to the vanilla trains (Granted I started a game in 1950 so I haven't seen most of the late game stuff yet)
05:28:38  <Stablean> <Anson> that is possible, but while you scroll to the corners and open viewport, i already have scrolled and changed :-)
05:29:44  <AnsonMobil> server crash? or is it my internet?
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05:29:53  <Djanxy> yeah anson, i also usually do that with the cursor keys - but that's the exception ;)
05:30:04  <Djanxy> i dced too
05:30:10  <Djanxy> must be bedtime
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05:30:49  <Stablean> <Chaz> Whoops, was that just my connection
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05:31:48  <Stablean> <Anson> we were all DCed
05:31:58  <Stablean> <Chaz> Huh. Wonder what happened
05:32:36  <Stablean> <Anson> i also had problems relogging ... company table was empty for a while
05:32:46  <Stablean> <Chaz> Hm
05:33:45  <Stablean> <Anson> when chatting, do you read only text in the corner, or are you using the console ?
05:33:59  <Stablean> <Anson> you can also chat on IRC :-)
05:34:05  <Stablean> <Chaz> I use the console if I'm sure I've missed something
05:34:11  <Stablean> <Chaz> And yeah, I should hop on the IRC for a little while
05:34:31  <AnsonMobil> hallo this is IRC on my phone
05:35:57  <Stablean> <Chaz> Alright, I hopped on the IRC :D
05:38:19  <Stablean> <Anson> advantage of IRC is that you can directly follow links like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjPAU4dOEQM
05:38:19  <Webster> Title: Crazy Train Almost Crash JAPAN, Length: 1m 1s, Views: 4150, Likes: 13
05:39:17  <Stablean> <Chaz> Huh, cool
05:39:36  <Stablean> <Chaz> I dunno if I've joined the right channel, mind you, I don't see any chat popping up on the IRC window
05:39:38  <Stablean> <Anson> or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZsR5COuPK4
05:39:38  <Webster> Title: Vegetable market on train track, Length: 44s, Views: 2333, Likes: 7
05:41:14  <Stablean> <Anson> http://irc.openttdcoop.org/?channels=openttdcoop,openttdcoop.stable
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05:41:53  <Stablean> <Anson> that is the web-irc ... and channels are #openttdcoop for the public server, and #openttdcoop.stable for this welcome server
05:42:06  <Chaz> There we go, I'm on the right channel now
05:42:38  <Stablean> <Anson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjPAU4dOEQM
05:42:38  <Webster> Title: Crazy Train Almost Crash JAPAN, Length: 1m 1s, Views: 4150, Likes: 13
05:43:40  <Chaz> That is insane
05:44:50  <Stablean> <Anson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MENjFkEAj9g
05:44:50  <Webster> Title: Train track Veggie Market, Length: 44s, Views: 5574771, Likes: 7074
05:45:32  <Stablean> <Anson> on that market, you buy salad with oil :-)
05:45:58  <Stablean> <Chaz> Oh yeah, I remember seeing this!
05:47:22  <Stablean> <Anson> to learn about openttd and how it is played on these servers, you can read for hours on the website and the wiki
05:48:25  <Stablean> <Chaz> I'll be sure to do so soon, probably tomorrow/later today after I've had some sleep proper
05:48:35  <Stablean> <Anson> there are nice articles like @@ABR01 to 13, but be aware that some of the info is old (up to 5+ years) and thus people might build differently now
05:49:04  <AnsonMobil> @abr01
05:49:11  <Stablean> <Chaz> Also the lack of breakdowns on this server is so nice
05:49:21  <Stablean> <Chaz> Might have to do this in singleplayer too
05:49:23  <AnsonMobil> @@abr01
05:49:41  <Stablean> <Anson> @@abr01
05:51:17  <Stablean> <Anson> in the index, look for advanced building review, or look at http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/User:V453000 ... there you also get the links to NUTS
05:52:19  <Stablean> <Anson> very soon, we will get a new version of nuts with even more "special" trains ...
05:52:37  <Stablean> <Chaz> Oh wow
05:52:51  <Stablean> <Chaz> I'll be sure to give it a proper look when I have time! :D
05:53:42  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, speaking of nuts ... the monster of the deep just was released :-)
05:54:39  <Stablean> <Anson> this server uses nuts and purr in most maps, with occasional maps with other trainsets
05:54:40  <Stablean> <Chaz> Sounds intimidating
05:54:50  <Stablean> <Chaz> Ahhh, okay :o
05:55:12  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> is there any benefit to wet rails?
05:55:22  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> or is it for looks
05:55:57  <Stablean> <Anson> in the archive, you can look for prozone game 2013 :-) ... that will drive you crazy and if your computer is not good, it drives the comp crazy too :-)
05:56:27  <Stablean> <Anson> wet rails are slow (capped at 120 kph), but they are very strong and have huge capacity
05:57:01  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> well I think its bed time
05:57:07  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> catch you guys later
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05:57:31  <Stablean> <Anson> wet rails can be used on universal rails too, but then they get -30% penalties for speed, power, etc
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05:57:59  <Stablean> <Chaz> Yeah, I should do likewise
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05:58:29  <Stablean> <Anson> i need to finiosh some connections :-(
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05:58:34  <Stablean> <Anson> g'N8
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06:31:13  <BiG_MEECH> Man
06:31:16  <BiG_MEECH> We need some action up here
06:36:13  <BiG_MEECH> !players
06:36:15  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 506 (Dark Blue) is Anson, in company 4 (happy tran  sport Transport)
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06:36:50  <Stablean> <Anson> don't tell me, tell the others :-)
06:37:00  <BiG_MEECH> woo!
06:37:23  <BiG_MEECH> I will bring da party
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06:37:57  <Stablean> <Anson> in the meantime, i will try to finish a few more connections
06:38:17  <Stablean> <Anson> quite a mess to build hubs on mountain slopes :-(
06:38:30  <BiG_MEECH> its 1000% posible
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08:14:24  <Stablean> <Anson> is there any documentation on how timetables work ?
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10:15:14  <Stablean> <Speedy> Err. no buses available anymore? :(
10:19:46  <Stablean> <Anson> i think there are max 50 ... that is much more than usual
10:20:09  <Stablean> <Speedy> Can't renew or buy any new ones
10:20:36  <Stablean> <Anson> look at advanced settings > vehicles
10:20:59  <Stablean> <Anson> 1000 trains, 50 RV, 0 planes, 5 ships
10:21:33  <Stablean> <Speedy> See RV menu and click Available road vehicles list
10:22:07  <Stablean> <Speedy> nothing for pass here, not bus of any kind
10:22:53  <Stablean> <Anson> strange ... a while ago, i bought a bus
10:23:20  <Stablean> <Speedy> did 2100 make then disappear from al list
10:23:27  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe
10:23:45  <Stablean> <Anson> some sets have dates from-to
10:24:52  <Stablean> <Anson> i found it : look at advanced settings > vehicles vehicles never expire = off ... usually, that is on on this server
10:25:26  <Stablean> <Speedy> =/
10:25:49  <Stablean> <Speedy> 146 years old bus :D
10:27:08  <Stablean> <Anson> disadvantage is that you would get a very long list of outdated and uninteresting vehicles, but it is bad when you can't buy more identical vehicles (problems from different speeds, different power, etc), and even more if there is no replacement for outdated vehicles
10:28:23  <Stablean> <Anson> since this server usually has breakdowns set to OFF, it doesn't matter : the age of vehicles is only important for the station rating, and only when it is 0-3 years old ... then it doesn't matter whether it is 4 or 400 years
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10:58:55  <Stablean> <bon> hi
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11:01:03  <Stablean> <Speedy> hi
11:01:09  <Stablean> <bon> hi speedy and griffin
11:01:16  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> ~
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11:03:58  <Stablean> <bon> how doing speedy?
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11:04:49  <Stablean> <Speedy> not too shabby
11:06:27  <Stablean> <bon> doing ok here...just still long to-do list but heh :)
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11:11:35  <Stablean> <bon> hi tbone
11:11:42  <Stablean> <TBone01> hello
11:11:52  <Stablean> <TBone01> this is quite amazing
11:11:58  <Stablean> <bon> yeah
11:15:17  <Stablean> <bon> feel free to look up all the ships...I mean...wetrail ships :P
11:15:20  <Stablean> <bon> (aside to others ofc)
11:15:47  <Stablean> <TBone01> I was checking out the dark blue network
11:17:01  <Stablean> <TBone01> okay
11:17:11  <Stablean> <TBone01> you have ship trains?
11:17:18  <Stablean> <bon> its called WET but yeah
11:17:22  <Stablean> <bon> kinda funny isn't it?
11:17:28  <Stablean> <TBone01> very
11:17:42  <Stablean> <TBone01> was not expecting that
11:17:54  <Stablean> <bon> yeah...you need to start a game at 1940 to really be with them tho but mm
11:19:10  <Stablean> <TBone01> so are they much better than trains?
11:19:52  <Stablean> <bon> no...because the first one comes out in 1940 and lets just say that starting in 1940 is the easiest way unless you just simply want to mix different incompactible railtypes on your map
11:20:35  <Stablean> <TBone01> instead of track>monorail>mavlev?
11:20:57  <Stablean> <bon> more or less yeah
11:22:03  <Stablean> <TBone01> the stuff on here is much more spread out than what I make
11:22:33  <Stablean> <TBone01> then again I realyl only do <=256 maps
11:22:37  <Stablean> <bon> heh well my network is almost the same stuff I do on my own single player games anyway .. just ... different trains :)
11:22:47  <Stablean> <bon> and heh tbone..I'm stuck to only 256x256 anyway
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11:26:56  <Stablean> <bon> *whacks the server's 20th centry cpu*
11:26:58  <Stablean> <bon> heh
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11:45:14  <Stablean> <bon> hi cgw
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11:48:48  <Stablean> <bon> hi vinnie
11:48:59  <Stablean> <Vinnie> heuy
11:49:05  <Stablean> <bon> how doing?
11:49:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> good, and you?
11:49:25  <Stablean> <bon> doing ok atm
11:49:36  <Stablean> <bon> trying figure out several things at same time tho? :)
11:49:38  <Stablean> <bon> heh
11:51:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> how does water flow uphill?
11:51:18  <Stablean> <bon> no idea? :) heh
11:51:49  <GriffinOneTwo> hmm, openttd coop server down?
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11:52:36  <GriffinOneTwo> up now
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11:56:06  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie I guess you could say its game magic? :)
11:57:04  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ontop of the mountains it is cold, maybe water has the Ingenuity that it is better of as icecream
11:57:11  <Stablean> <bon> :p
11:59:14  <Stablean> <bon> wb anson
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11:59:50  <Stablean> <Anson> was afk to eat something, and when i came back, i saw "comp couldn't keep up with the server"
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11:59:56  <Stablean> <bon> yeah :->
12:00:20  <Stablean> <Anson> OUCH
12:00:34  <Stablean> <bon> ouch? something wrong happened while the server fell?
12:00:38  <Stablean> <Anson> i have replaced a little too much :-(
12:01:04  <Stablean> <Anson> at sign "replaced too much"
12:01:31  <Stablean> <bon> oh...heh
12:01:41  <Stablean> <bon> nice....jam
12:04:06  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> Wow, you feeder maglev is hauling butt
12:04:58  <Stablean> <Anson> whose ?
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12:05:08  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> yours
12:05:27  <Stablean> <Anson> i don't have maglev feeders
12:05:53  <Stablean> <Anson> my only maglev are supply trains
12:06:32  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> ahh, supply train then
12:07:02  <Stablean> <Anson> and i selected them not because of speed, but because 2 wagons = 44 crates, 2 trains = 88, and 84 are needed for quad production
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12:07:54  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> IC
12:08:00  <Stablean> <Anson> similar with the monorail : selected because capacity is exactly what is needed for farm supplies
12:08:12  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> After 3 months, the quad ate sticks forever?
12:08:30  <Stablean> <Anson> and in addition, TL 0.5 is pretty fast :-)
12:10:28  <Stablean> <bon> meh that stupid hoverboat need to shut up :->
12:12:22  <Stablean> <bon> heh finally think I can use one of the junction thats been laying awaste for a long time
12:13:10  <Stablean> <Anson> how do you like the monorail roundabout ?
12:14:00  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> At Ellersite Sidding?
12:14:40  <Stablean> <Anson> at Ellerslie South
12:15:34  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> yea, cute, those are halling butt too
12:16:21  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> only one vehicle on eachmonorail path ?
12:16:59  <Stablean> <Anson> the roundabout was not intended ... i had built 4 tracks for the four farms, and only 1 depot for all of them. thus they used the wron platforms on release from the depot and i had to be creative with the track layout to not let them block each other or even deadlock
12:18:15  <Stablean> <Anson> i am using timetables there ... but timetables are a bit difficult to set up sometimes
12:18:37  <Stablean> <Anson> they don't work well with conditionals
12:18:55  <Stablean> <Anson> and i have no idea what the buttobn "expected" means
12:19:30  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> Does monorail come with built in block zones?  I don't see how both the south west, and east north east north east ones can both reserver a path on part of the roundabout?
12:19:52  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe
12:20:02  <Stablean> <Anson> the platforms have 2way PBS
12:20:53  <Stablean> <Anson> and thus the entire block applies PBS rules to the trains, no matter whether they enter the block via a pbs signal or a block sinal or "just are there"
12:20:59  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> I see those signals, does the depo do a seperate invisable signal on eash track out of it?
12:21:16  <GriffinOneTwo> hmm
12:21:53  <Stablean> <Anson> depots have an internal, not visible, signal in them which matches the signals outside the depot
12:22:45  <Stablean> <Anson> look at Ellerslie West/heights for another example of PBS and depots
12:22:52  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> weird looking path stuff at the roundabout
12:22:59  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> k
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12:24:54  <Stablean> <Anson> that is one method how you can have one depot for two stations, and the trains are still sorted to the proper station
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12:25:36  <Stablean> <Anson> disadvantage : you need to force the trains in the depot and can't have direct access to the platforms
12:25:38  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> yea, I two way PBS all the entrances to my stations like that too, I just don't remember seeing multiple vehicles on track between the signals before
12:26:44  <Stablean> <Anson> and you can't have other signals (besides 2way pbs) between depot and platforms (except if you have waiting bays, but thenm the bays act like platforms)
12:27:50  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> whats the advantage of two stations there, vs a 4 platform station?
12:28:53  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, i once had a station with 8 platforms and a gigantic web of tracks in front of it, with 4 incoming and 4 outgoing tracks attacked ... at one point, there were 6 trains on that web at the same time :-)
12:29:42  <GriffinOneTwo> I see huge station on the coop pub server all the time
12:29:46  <Stablean> <Anson> did you ever have a farm in a non-firs game, and used only 1 station for grain and meat ?
12:30:05  <GriffinOneTwo> no
12:30:22  <GriffinOneTwo> well, 1 station probable, several platforms
12:30:41  <GriffinOneTwo> usually 50/50 trains
12:30:56  <GriffinOneTwo> or some ratio close to that
12:31:00  <Stablean> <Anson> 4 platforms for meat and grain, and more than 4 trains of each type servicing the station --> 4 grain can be waiting for fulll oad, and the meat trains are queuing ...
12:31:47  <GriffinOneTwo> thats why I mix cargo on the trains
12:32:19  <Stablean> <Anson> if you build an overflow at such a station, you can have bad luck and all grain trains pile up in the depot while the meat trains service the station
12:32:41  <Stablean> <Anson> mixing cargo on the trains works, but not very well
12:33:11  <Stablean> <Anson> production for those "multiple type" promaries is independent of each other
12:33:29  <Stablean> <Anson> you can end up with 2000 grain and 32 meat
12:33:51  <Stablean> <Anson> how do you adjust the ration of cargoes on those trains ?
12:34:13  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> I'm certainly not great at this game.   minor landscaping e.g. to amke a tunnel, or avoid short curves, really messes me up on these varried terrain maps
12:34:24  <Stablean> <GriffinOneTwo> I set the ratio based on what is waiting at tthe farm
12:34:38  <Stablean> <Anson> HERE (in this firs game), ratio is 1:1, but that can change easily and never is 1:1 in normal games
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12:35:33  <happy_> hi all
12:35:36  <Stablean> <Anson> increase and decrease of production is random --> you set it up at the start with 1:1 for 32:32 production, and after an hour when you are afk, it changed to 16:200 ...
12:35:41  <GriffinOneTwo> yea, but often enough, not far enough off to have more than 1 car imbalance in the trains
12:36:01  <GriffinOneTwo> oh, well, I haven't noticed that
12:36:22  <GriffinOneTwo> 16:200 would really hose me up with somehting 60:40
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12:37:26  <Stablean> <Anson> it is pure luck ... when rating is below 50%, you have a 33% chance for increase of production and 66% for decrease ... thus even with no service you CAN (although not probable) get to max production of 2000+
12:38:28  <Stablean> <Anson> similar applies for good service ... you can end up with 0 production and a dead mine, although it is more probable that it ends up at max production
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12:39:46  <GriffinOneTwo> thanks for the tips
12:40:24  <Stablean> <Anson> somewhere, someone had done the math ... calculated how many years on average it takes for a mine to get from start to max production ... oce with best service, and once with mediocre service ... quite some difference
12:40:54  <Stablean> <Anson> and he also calculated the chances of a mine with good service ending up dead or a mine with no service ending up at max production
12:41:36  <Stablean> <Anson> with mixed trains you also get another prblem, similar to having different cargoes on the same track :
12:42:04  <Stablean> <Anson> trains have diferent weight and thus different acceleration or even different max speeds (on slopes)
12:42:50  <Stablean> <Anson> the same also applies to your mixed trains which never will have exactly the same load and thus same weight and thus same acceleration and speeds
12:44:27  <GriffinOneTwo> unless all my mixed trains at the same ratio, and always full load all (instead of ful load any)
12:44:28  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: do you have the setting enabled for "show reserved tracks" ?
12:44:34  <GriffinOneTwo> yes
12:44:53  <Stablean> <bon> sorry had to afk for a moment
12:45:06  <GriffinOneTwo> thats why it looked funny at the round about, I could see two reserves aross it
12:45:09  <Stablean> <Anson> i like to see those pathes through a web of PBS reservations :-)
12:45:19  <Stablean> <bon> and mm yeah this thing with a very wide industry production ratio is just pretty much why I hate original industries to a degree but ... ehh.. no comment tho
12:45:49  <Stablean> <CGW> wtf! deleted my dock to move it to a better place and now i cant build a new one! its blanked out..
12:46:11  <Stablean> <bon> cgw..check your settings again
12:46:26  <Stablean> <bon> theres no new ships in buy list hence that behaviour at first
12:46:36  <Stablean> <Anson> it probably is a bad ship set ... after some year, a specific ship is no longer available
12:46:50  <Stablean> <CGW> ah i see
12:46:50  <Stablean> <bon> anson...well..its the default..and game usually  ends in 2050
12:46:56  <Stablean> <bon> what else was there to expect I guess :)
12:46:58  <Stablean> <Anson> and you probably have enabled a setting to show no infrastructure when no vehicles are available
12:47:01  <Stablean> <CGW> well thats the end of the shipping arm of my company!
12:47:19  <Stablean> <bon> cgw...I only have one single boat and I wish it would stop complaining that its getting rusty in age
12:47:25  <Stablean> <bon> but heh dunno :)
12:47:43  <Stablean> <Anson> enable to "show infrastructure when no vehicles are available"
12:47:53  <Stablean> <CGW> why not have the big ship grf next time, just limited to max 5 ships like this
12:48:11  <Stablean> <bon> ask mark about that ok?
12:48:14  <Stablean> <Anson> the problem on tzhis map is another setting ...
12:48:33  <Stablean> <bon> mm?
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12:49:08  <Stablean> <Anson> advanced settings > vehicles > vehicles never expire ... that is usually ON, but on this map it is OFF
12:49:24  <Stablean> <bon> anson actually with 'nuts' its off tbh
12:49:30  <Stablean> <bon> oh..sorry nevermind
12:49:32  <Stablean> <bon> misread
12:50:07  <Stablean> <bon> I'm still seeing the orginal 1920 vehicles in buylist tho?
12:50:29  <Stablean> <bon> <is a bit busy with muffins anyway
12:50:32  <Stablean> <Anson> which buy list ? trains/nuts, or RV, ships, etc ?
12:51:31  <Stablean> <CGW> can we have a big ships grf next time, limited to 5 ships? ty
12:51:47  <Stablean> <Anson> try to buy a RV : in 2103 there were no more buses, and now in 2111 there are only two RV left (livestock and wood)
12:52:48  <BiG_MEECH> quit hoarding muffins.
12:53:16  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe in a few years, there will be no RV left at all, and if infrastructure setting is off, you can't even put down a depot or roads ?!
12:55:02  <Stablean> <Anson> ah, here is that setting :   advanced settings > interface > disable infrastructure building when no suitable vehicles are available" ... you can set/clear that flag yourself, independent of the map, and then can buy a dock again
12:55:15  <GriffinOneTwo> eventually no new vehicles available?
12:55:35  <Stablean> <bon> yeah I always have that one on...never understood why its off by default when roads are used for more than rvs!
12:55:54  <Stablean> <Anson> i think the last new train is in 2080, and other sets have the last vehicle much earlier
12:55:56  <Stablean> <bon> and anson...mm....wonder why a 1920 locomotive is here but a 2000 rv isn't .. must be something with the grf
12:56:50  <Stablean> <Anson> grf authors can specify power, speed, whateve for their vehicles ... and also year from-to
12:58:17  <Stablean> <Anson> nuts doesn't expire trains early so that people can select any train and stick to that, with no need to replace all trains after some year, because they can't buy the 69th vehicle when they already have 68 and need one more
12:58:31  <Stablean> <bon> mm
12:59:13  <BiG_MEECH> Send me muffins?
12:59:23  <Stablean> <Anson> public server games mostly start in the year 2100, so that all trains are available for selection, and then one train is selected and used for the entire game
13:00:19  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, happy
13:00:29  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  anson
13:00:47  <Stablean> <Anson> did you see the monorail (for farm supplies) and the maglev (for engineering supplies) ?
13:00:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
13:01:01  <Stablean> <bon> meech sorry nope...food by postal isn't exactly easy to do
13:01:05  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good job
13:01:16  <GriffinOneTwo> fax it
13:01:22  <Stablean> <bon> anson/happy....I have to yet bother running supplies yet too....too lazy yet I guess :)
13:01:24  <BiG_MEECH> I want to die of something cool, may as well be USPS muffins
13:01:32  <Stablean> <bon> have tons of the materials required to make farm supplies anyway
13:01:46  <Stablean> <bon> meech...go check your own fridge you lazy bum! :P
13:01:48  <Stablean> <bon> heheheh
13:02:02  <BiG_MEECH> NO
13:02:12  <Stablean> <bon> then don't ask ;)
13:02:24  <BiG_MEECH> :(
13:02:29  <GriffinOneTwo> faxed Pizza looks fairly good, just not very nourishing
13:02:34  <BiG_MEECH> fridge stolen
13:02:39  <BiG_MEECH> I live in bad part of town
13:02:50  <Stablean> <bon> not sure what to do with manufactored supplies tho
13:03:11  <GriffinOneTwo> someone stole your fridge?
13:03:22  <BiG_MEECH> yup
13:03:26  <BiG_MEECH> I live in the ghetto
13:03:28  <GriffinOneTwo> crape
13:03:28  <Stablean> <bon> anson what do you usually do with manufactored supplies yourself?
13:04:03  <Stablean> <Anson> i play firs neither often nor well
13:04:13  <Stablean> <bon> np...just had to ask anyway
13:04:24  <GriffinOneTwo> well, that sucks, I think I'd find somewhere else to live if someone took my fridge
13:04:26  <Stablean> <bon> will look around for something inside my network area to drop off a heap of that
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13:05:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> CGW you still need help?
13:05:49  <Stablean> <Anson> what do you think of a game with very low prices to build industries, and people starting with an empty island and maybe 4 towns (so that they can build max 4 of each type of industry)
13:06:32  <Stablean> <bon> anson....hmmm...I would prefer to say several many towns but otherwise...idea probably sounds interesting
13:06:52  <Stablean> <Anson> vinnie : vehicles never expore is OFF in this map ...
13:06:52  <GriffinOneTwo> Manufacturing Supplies go to Furnature Factory, Sugar Refinery, Fishing harbor, Grain Mill, Brewery, Dairy, Stockyard, Textile Mill
13:07:04  <Stablean> <bon> griffin..thats not really the question but thanks anyway
13:07:14  <Stablean> <bon> found one small plant nearby so going see about it soon
13:08:15  <GriffinOneTwo> the questionis whaich would be of more value?
13:08:26  <Stablean> <Anson> vinnie : thus there are only 2 RV available in buy menus now, and eg no buses or mail trucks
13:08:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ah yeah
13:09:34  <Stablean> <Anson> same for ships : and people who have "show infrastructure when there are no vehicles" set, can't even build a new dock
13:09:49  <GriffinOneTwo> better keep al the expired vehicles repaired then?
13:09:52  <Stablean> <CGW> yeah that was my problem
13:10:02  <Stablean> <bon> griffin well I don't care for food vs goods ... so I'll just pick whatever is so nearby which in this case is goods
13:10:12  <Stablean> <bon> will have to see where to drop off goods afterward tho
13:10:15  <Stablean> <CGW> i had 5 old ships, tried changing the dock location and now they have nowhere to go
13:10:21  <Stablean> <bon> but afk for a few minutes now
13:11:00  <Stablean> <Anson> CGW: but you can change a setting in advanced settings and then see docks again
13:11:09  <GriffinOneTwo> Houses, Hardware Store, and Gas Station
13:11:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah but map needs a reset vehicles after that
13:11:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> so i need to op myself in irc and i need to lookup how to do that
13:12:47  <GriffinOneTwo> hmm, should auto op you on a registered id?
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13:14:16  <Stablean> <Anson> set never_expire_vehicles
13:14:25  <GriffinOneTwo> . /msg chanserv op #openttdcoop.stable
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13:16:05  <GriffinOneTwo> . /msg chanserv op #openttdcoop.stable
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13:17:20  <VInnie_NL> test
13:19:41  <VInnie_NL> @op
13:20:07  <VInnie_NL> ah i give up, time to do it the oldschool way
13:20:13  <VInnie_NL> be back in 5 min
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13:22:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Ready?
13:22:09  <Vinnie_nl> !pause
13:22:09  <Stablean> *** Vinnie_nl has paused the server.
13:22:11  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
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13:23:00  <Stablean> <bon> eh hi skyem and djanxy? :)
13:23:30  <Stablean> <skyem123> why is the world paused?
13:23:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> not  shor
13:23:56  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> vinnie   did  it
13:24:13  <Vinnie_nl> !upload https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16307577/Stable%20V2.sav
13:24:18  <Stablean> <Anson> vinnie wanted to change a parameter, and it didn't work out at first ... then he paused and said "old school way, back in 5 mins"
13:24:29  <Stablean> <bon> be back in a bit while I can't do anything anyway
13:24:35  <Taede> use !getsave Vinnie_nl
13:24:39  <Vinnie_nl> right
13:24:50  <Vinnie_nl> !getsave https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16307577/Stable%20V2.sav
13:24:56  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: OK :-)
13:25:01  <Vinnie_nl> 1rcon ls
13:25:05  <Vinnie_nl> !rcon ls
13:25:07  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: 0) .. (Parent directory)
13:25:07  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: 1) archive/ (Directory)
13:25:07  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: 2) Stable V2.sav
13:25:07  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: 3) wsg_start3.sav
13:25:07  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: 4) wsg_start2.sav
13:25:08  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: you have 231 more messages
13:25:13  <Vinnie_nl> !rcon load 2
13:25:29  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
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13:25:44  <Vinnie_nl> !auto
13:25:44  <Stablean> *** Vinnie_nl has enabled autopause mode.
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13:25:47  <Vinnie_nl> !setdef
13:25:47  <Stablean> *** Vinnie_nl has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
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13:26:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i cant create company to check, somesays its ok?
13:26:19  <Stablean> <skyem123> *poof* went the passwords!
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13:26:32  <AnsonMobil> i still see "the server is restarting. please wait."
13:26:44  <Stablean> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving)
13:26:54  <Vinnie_nl> AnsonMobil: try to reconnect to the server
13:26:58  <Vinnie_nl> back to lobby
13:27:05  <Taede> yeah, clients dont always automatically reconnect on restart
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13:27:56  <AnsonMobil> is that a small bug? that it says "please wait" although people should close that message and try to login themselves?
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13:28:11  <Vinnie_nl> for fun i should have put magic buldozer on
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13:28:38  <Stablean> <CGW> Yeah! ships! HONK HONK
13:28:44  <Stablean> <CGW> nice one
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13:31:13  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> vinnie  can u  mov  me  in  to my company
13:31:58  <GriffinOneTwo> forgot your pass already?
13:32:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i did  it rone
13:32:33  <GriffinOneTwo> wrong?
13:32:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yes
13:32:39  <Stablean> <bon> yeah
13:32:42  <GriffinOneTwo> oops
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13:34:19  <Stablean> <bon> skyem can I ask you something/
13:34:30  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> samsungs1
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13:36:12  <Stablean> <bon> skyem?
13:36:32  <Stablean> <skyem123> what?
13:37:02  <Stablean> <bon> just asking but ok if I took the recyclables in sexsmith and in trade I could drop off some more scrap metals for you to use at your steel mill
13:37:06  <BiG_MEECH> wooooooooooooooooooooooOOO!
13:37:22  <Stablean> <skyem123> meh....
13:37:25  <Stablean> <skyem123> ok.
13:37:31  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  big meech
13:37:33  <Stablean> <SoleOfSoetoro> you into woobanging big meech?
13:37:50  <BiG_MEECH> I'm always bangin'
13:38:01  <BiG_MEECH> Openttd ladies be lining up for miles
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13:38:12  <BiG_MEECH> To get a peice of Big Meech
13:38:30  <Stablean> <SoleOfSoetoro> i dont know if you see some of these openttd "ladies"
13:38:52  <Stablean> <SoleOfSoetoro> have you been molesting locomotives meech?
13:38:54  <BiG_MEECH> Next thing you will be telling me is that there are 0 Openttd ladies.
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13:40:12  <Stablean> <Anson> didn't you ever play mars with the alrenate statues ? :-)
13:40:20  <Stablean> <Anson> * alternate
13:40:27  <BiG_MEECH> lol, I've seen that
13:41:17  <Stablean> <Anson> if you pay enough to the authorities, those ladies will line up :-)
13:41:41  <BiG_MEECH> LMAO
13:45:48  <happy_> how  things   big  meech
13:48:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> do you guys know who made this map?
13:48:08  <Stablean> <bon> mark
13:48:10  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> mark
13:49:03  <happy_> how  things  vinnie
13:49:11  <Stablean> <Vinnie> good and with you?
13:49:18  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
13:49:32  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, happy is not feeling well
13:49:43  <Stablean> <Anson> he messed up the new PW :-)
13:50:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> your not invited !!
13:50:20  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nop
13:50:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> that sounded mean
13:50:48  <Stablean> <bon> ok skyem...you may have to think about a 2nd steel train later depending on traffics...I'll let you decide that for yourself :)
13:50:55  <Stablean> <bon> have two 280 tonnes scrap metal ships scheduled to your mill
13:51:49  <Stablean> <Vinnie> what is the plan with that loop in the ML?
13:51:54  <happy_> dam  key bord
13:51:55  <Stablean> <bon> and heh I just got to 70 ships now
13:51:57  <Stablean> <bon> fun :)
13:52:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> tying  sume thin  vinnie
13:53:02  <Stablean> <Anson> with firs, we don't have a single big drop at the end of the ML, and thus i added an option to turn around if some train enters in the wrong direction
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13:54:01  <Stablean> <bon> btw skyem...I hope that was enough space by my recycling station?  I can move a bit further if i have to
13:57:15  <Stablean> <bon> I guess you didn't want to answer eh?
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14:00:08  <Stablean> <bon> wb vinnie
14:00:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb
14:00:13  <Taede> !players
14:00:16  <Stablean> Taede: Client 592 is happy tran  sport, a spectator
14:00:16  <Stablean> Taede: Client 569 is Skarven, a spectator
14:00:16  <Stablean> Taede: Client 580 (Mauve) is CGW, in company 3 (Cresmont Express)
14:00:16  <Stablean> Taede: Client 593 is Taede, a spectator
14:00:16  <Stablean> Taede: Client 573 (Brown) is bon, in company 2 (rapidee sailing co.)
14:00:18  <Stablean> Taede: Client 578 (White) is skyem123, in company 6 (Greater Anglia)
14:00:18  <Stablean> Taede: Client 584 is Anson, a spectator
14:00:20  <Stablean> Taede: Client 595 is Vinnie, a spectator
14:00:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
14:00:34  <Stablean> <Vinnie> just checking some savegames on my pc with nice grf settings
14:00:34  <Taede> !rcon move 592 4
14:00:35  <Stablean> Taede: ‎*** happy tran  sport has joined company #4
14:00:42  <Stablean> <bon> :p
14:01:16  <Stablean> *** Anson has joined company #4
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14:02:05  <Stablean> <bon> always did wonder where pear is....but ehh what do I know
14:03:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> thanks
14:03:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> np
14:09:27  <Stablean> <Anson> before i gorget that, I'll add the U-turn at SLH01
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14:23:10  <Stablean> <bon> heh going from A to E for pax .. silly me
14:24:17  <Stablean> <bon> skyem as long as you're still only using 90kph trains you should probably think about a 3rd steel train
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14:25:32  <Stablean> <bon> hi joe :)
14:27:18  <Stablean> <bon> anyway afk for a bit
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14:33:11  <Stablean> <skyem123> oops#
14:33:25  <Stablean> <skyem123> i give up
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14:33:39  <Stablean> <Anson> lol ... there was some Medicine Hat right next to the crash :-)
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15:01:50  <Chaz> Morning/afternoon folks
15:02:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
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15:05:26  <Chaz> Hah, nice. My doofy not-at-all competent company still managed to make some money while I was asleep. Enough for me to pay off my loan at least
15:25:00  <Vinnie_nl>  remember your company pw got lost
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15:33:02  <Chaz> Wait what? I didn't know you could set a password for your company. Whoops
15:33:33  <Chaz> Oh... there it is. Don't I feel silly
15:33:46  <Chaz> Ah well, I'll actually make sure and set one now
15:34:05  <Stablean> <Anson> if you push the additional button, ottd saves the password for next time and you automatically get it on a new map
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15:34:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> on  your   company  windo   chaz   u can set a password
15:35:30  <Stablean> <Anson> and we just lost all our passwords since the map was restarted .. passwords are not saved in a file, and thus couldn't be reloaded/restored
15:35:34  <Stablean> <Chaz> Wait, where's the additional button for saving passwords then?  Sorry, still figuring this out
15:35:36  <Stablean> <Chaz> Ahhh
15:36:38  <Stablean> <Anson> that button is labeled "default company password" :-)
15:36:46  <Stablean> <Chaz> Alright, thanks!
15:38:04  <Stablean> <Chaz> Alright, GMC Transport has a password now!
15:38:10  <Stablean> <Anson> if you have a default password and want someone else to join you, you can set a new password (to give it away), and that new password will be valid for that company, but on a new map (or a new com,pany) you will have the old default pw again
15:38:41  <Stablean> <Chaz> Alright, cool
15:40:00  <Stablean> <bon> back for a short time
15:40:06  <Stablean> <bon> then I have to be gone for half of the day :-s
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15:41:05  <Chaz> Hmm... I've set up IRC highlighting on mIRC, though I wonder if there's a way to make it so that I don't get notified of Stablean relaying a message I say ingame
15:41:39  <Stablean> <bon> 76 trains...heh
15:41:57  <Stablean> <bon> looks like the one line through Bragg Creek is starting to get a bit filled
15:43:39  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : only messages "to all" are relayed, but not private chat, company chat, etc
15:44:50  <Stablean> <Anson> for your mIRC, messages that you typed ingame are messages that someone else (namely stablean) wrote ... you only might be able to exclude them by using a blacklist and the full string with stablean and your username
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15:46:33  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, i have the opposite problem : my irc only beeps for notifications when the app is in the background, but doesn't beep when it is in another tab/channel
15:46:43  <Stablean> <Chaz> Ahhh
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15:55:56  <Stablean> <bon> meh...going now
15:56:07  <Stablean> <bon> if this map is still on 5 hours later then great!
15:56:10  <Stablean> <bon> have fun either way
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15:57:33  <Stablean> <Chaz> Hello Pear!
16:01:29  <Stablean> <CGW> they died heros
16:01:35  <Stablean> <Chaz> Wha
16:01:49  <Stablean> <Pear> hi chaz
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16:07:18  <Stablean> <Chaz> Alright, I'm gonna hop out of the server too,  I'll be goofing off in singleplayer for a little while. I'll stick around on the IRC though
16:07:36  <Stablean> <Chaz> Back later!
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16:16:20  <Stablean> <Anson> Chaz, when you play offline, some options probably are different from this server ... most of all handling of 2way signals ... you can set it in the console, or directly in the cinfig file to play with the same parameters
16:16:56  <Stablean> <Anson> to create the fine logic layouits, overflows, etc, you need that 2way signal handling
16:23:29  <Chaz> Ahhh, alright. I'll keep that in mind!
16:28:09  <Chaz> I'm doing some tinkering around with the settings anyways, just to make life easier for myself
16:28:36  <Chaz> Disabling breakdowns, making vehicles and airports available forever, just little bits and bobs
16:29:03  <Chaz> And I just found out how to set 2way signals so I'm gonna go dig around in the config files for that
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16:33:18  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb
16:33:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
16:33:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> im spying on oyur work
16:33:57  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> he he  fill fre
16:36:34  <Chaz> There we go, tinkered about with the config files, should be good to go for singleplayer now
16:37:53  <Chaz> I could either use the same newGRFs that are being used on the server or I could stick with vanilla vehicles. I do quite like the SH "125" diesel engine at least when I start in 1980
16:37:58  <Chaz> Mostly an aesthetic thing for me though
16:38:46  <Stablean> <Anson> Chaz : yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol = true
16:39:02  <Chaz> Yeah, I found it and set it, no worries :D
16:39:57  <Stablean> <Anson> without that setting, trains will just run to the signal and wait ... but with it, they will consider a red 2way to be EOL (end of line, dead end) and select any other signal
16:40:51  <Chaz> I haven't quite gotten to that level of complexity with my rails yet but it'll be handy in the long run
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16:44:23  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi wood
16:44:27  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy
16:44:29  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
16:44:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> good thanks, you?
16:44:41  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> server crash?
16:44:43  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> goood
16:49:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> server reloaded, vehicles expired
16:50:00  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> a bunch of companies didn't have password, twas why i asked
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17:43:06  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi jam
17:43:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
17:44:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> how's the network?
17:44:36  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> seems ok to me so far
17:44:56  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi jam
17:45:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> fill free  to john
17:45:21  <Chaz> Hi there Jam!
17:46:17  <Jam35> helloo
17:48:22  <Chaz> Just found out about this place yesterday, I hopped on the welcome server last night/this morning and I thought I'd stick around for a while, see if I can learn a thing or two about playing OpenTTD
17:49:27  <Jam35> you should join the game then :)
17:50:58  <Jam35> and read wiki stuff also
17:57:54  <Chaz> Will do! I was on the welcome server earlier, started up a little company of my own but I just have the one service running at the moment while I figure stuff out
17:58:41  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> Chaz, the firs industries are more difficult to start with
17:58:57  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> but still good practice
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17:59:34  <Chaz> Yeah, I'll get the hang of them eventually, but for now I'm tinkering around in singleplayer (I set on the twoway end-of-line thingy that Anson mentioned earlier)
18:01:03  <Chaz> Actually I'll hop back on just now and have a look, because there was something I was curious about
18:01:42  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> SSGen only has 4 station tiles in his company
18:01:54  <Stablean> *** Chaz joined the game
18:02:31  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Theres no more room.. can i join SSGen's company?
18:03:21  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Also CGW, what's with all the pbs signaling?
18:03:31  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> he's just learning
18:03:37  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> oh okay :)
18:03:43  <Stablean> <CGW> yeah i'm a rookie
18:03:51  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> its' just they can make the server slow if you use them everwhere :)
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18:13:22  <Chaz> Alright, I think I figured it out, gonna see if I can replicate that on my singleplayer world (The current map's a bit crowded and I'm a bit worried about stepping on any toes)
18:14:09  <Chaz> Basically I was looking at one of JoeSchmoe's rail systems and I saw his trains going into one depot and then coming out with different carriages attached, which prompted a quiet "...You can /do/ that?" from me
18:14:46  <Chaz> Looked at the order list and saw it was a Refit command that was queued up
18:38:32  <Chaz> Oh right, it's part of the NUTS Universal Wagon system. That's handy! I think I'll start a new singleplayer world with all the openttdcoop mods just for the sake of learning. (I still like the vanilla engine designs but hey!)
18:42:15  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> only problem i see with this game is that you can't use trucks :(
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19:01:15  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotta go, cyas
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20:04:31  <Stablean> <Slicey> anson u there
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20:53:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
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20:56:14  <Stablean> <Muel> hi
20:56:16  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
20:56:40  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> jason  thats  not your  company  to   doo  eney  thin
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20:58:03  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things  muel
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20:58:37  <Stablean> <Muel> good :) i see on you infrastruktur and is wonderful :)
20:58:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
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22:27:15  <Stablean> <bon> hi finally
22:27:37  <Stablean> <bon> oh ughhh Robb I hate you... too much recyclabls :-s
22:28:52  <happy_> hi bon
22:29:04  <Stablean> <bon> hi happy :)
22:29:14  <happy_> how  things
22:29:26  <Stablean> <bon> 828 tonnes of recyclables at 43% rating but otherwise..doing ok :)
22:29:33  <Stablean> <bon> may try add more routes although I'm eating soon
22:32:15  <Stablean> <bon> and I see anson is still somewhat sleep on the desk but heh wouldn't complain :)
22:33:13  <happy_> thats  troo
22:37:16  <Stablean> <bon> you planning on coming into company or its late for you?
22:38:29  <happy_> i    be  on  the  server   in  5 mnints
22:38:33  <Stablean> <bon> heh allright then
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22:46:57  <Stablean> <bon> hi :)
22:47:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
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22:54:28  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  pear
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22:56:37  <Stablean> <bon> pear probably doesn't want play anymore? :/
22:57:11  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:57:25  <Stablean> <bon> at least he could just mention if he want to give the slot to another player -_-
22:57:27  <Stablean> <bon> oh well
22:57:27  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo ... bon, did you secretly switch my webcam on ? :-)
22:57:49  <Stablean> <bon> anson...when someone is still in company but showing zero activity thats a good hint of sleeping on the keyboard to me :P
22:57:51  <Stablean> <bon> heh
22:58:01  <Stablean> <bon> but mm yeah whatever :)
22:58:15  <Stablean> <Anson> i have none, but you saw me kissing the keyboard with my nose ...
22:59:22  <Stablean> <bon> <might not be surprised anymore if I hit 100 ships tho
23:04:05  <Stablean> <bon> ehh looks like skyem still can't figure how to run things
23:06:51  <Stablean> <Anson> happy, are you there ?
23:06:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
23:07:13  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh going cancel the trade anyway
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23:24:58  <Stablean> <bon> I hope that mark makes a map alike to this one ... its been a bit too much fun either way
23:25:08  <Stablean> <bon> but ehhh...who knows what he'll be up to
23:25:22  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
23:25:41  <Stablean> <bon> its been some time since I've been able to share a single-network-to-all-things publicially to put it bluntly
23:27:48  <Stablean> <bon> happy I know we two have rather different styles in network setup but still...what you think of where I am at so far especially with some legs of it being almost quite busy?
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23:33:35  <Stablean> <bon> afk a bit to eat anyway
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23:33:41  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb
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23:49:40  <Stablean> <bon> back for now
23:49:43  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb
23:53:26  <Stablean> <bon> ty
23:58:24  <Stablean> <bon> I just hope mark doesn't go as overhead on the mountains in next map..had to skip things due to not wanting to TF 20+ tiles just to put a tiny platform in :-s

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