Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 14th November 2013:
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00:02:20  <Stablean> <Djanxy> playing a different game with a friend atm happy
00:02:35  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  ok  have fun
00:03:17  <Stablean> <Djanxy> dont know if i will start a company on this map though, wont have much time to play the next few days
00:03:43  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> no  i did  not no that
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00:17:12  <BiG_MEECH> Yo Speedy!
00:17:36  <Stablean> <Speedy> hi Mr. BiG
00:22:30  <BiG_MEECH> :D
00:25:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  joe
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00:39:40  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> i know... i knew i would be afk for a bit and quickly got something up and running to get cash
00:39:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  ok
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01:07:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> woops
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01:38:58  <Stablean> <bon> meh that was a bit too long night...oh well here I am >_<
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01:40:25  <Stablean> <bon> mm I got a quick question for someone
01:41:02  <BiG_MEECH> sure
01:41:13  <Stablean> <bon> two Educated Horses could be replaced with a single Heavens for the exact same train and I wouldn't notice anything except for TL being 0.5 shorter
01:41:23  <Stablean> <bon> plausible or I'm missing something?
01:41:56  <BiG_MEECH> I think you're missing HP or TE or weight of the train or something
01:42:04  <BiG_MEECH> !date
01:42:04  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: 15 Aug 1946
01:45:05  <Stablean> <bon> meech well heres the quick stat since you're not ingame.. 80t@913hp@279kN for each of two horse vs 80t@2028hp@525kN for the heaven
01:45:27  <Stablean> <bon> might just give it a try on one train soon and see tho
01:46:30  <BiG_MEECH> You might want to make identical train to see if the extra 80 tons will mean something
01:47:06  <BiG_MEECH> not like it really matters in another 10 years when the new trains are out
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01:51:15  <Stablean> <Djanxy> soooooo
01:51:25  <Stablean> <Djanxy> how's everybody doing
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01:51:37  <Stablean> <bon> doing ok..just got back
01:51:39  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> good
01:51:45  <Stablean> <bon> so starting to catch up a bit now :0
01:51:46  <BiG_MEECH> wooooooooooooooOOOOOooOOOooOOOOOhella good
01:51:50  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
01:51:52  <Stablean> <bon> new trains..make up a few routes..etc
01:52:05  <BiG_MEECH> just did a 24 pack
01:54:08  <Stablean> <bon> ehh it seem good enough to me..gets up to max 100 in short order
01:54:10  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:54:32  <Stablean> <bon> ofc when the 4th or 5th strong loco comes out I'll have to add more wagons :)
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01:54:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> gn ALL
01:55:03  <BiG_MEECH> Seeya
01:55:06  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> all
01:55:08  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nn
01:55:35  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> djanxy fill free  to john
01:55:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> at  eney  time
01:56:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> thanks - dont know pass though :D
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01:57:01  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> fill  fee to  john  big meech
01:57:21  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> have   fun  djanxy
01:57:27  <Stablean> <Djanxy> already see trains waiting for each other :D
01:57:34  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer
01:57:50  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> needs fixing
01:58:09  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hmm, how did one end up on the wrong side
01:58:40  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  yer   i  prace the  rone butern
01:58:46  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :D
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02:00:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i  was  looking at the trans  cargo  to  see  if  the new won cumeout  but  i prace  the      servis  butern
02:01:02  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ah
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02:01:31  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> so  it mite  take  time  to  get back
02:02:00  <Stablean> <Djanxy> it was the small line at the stell mill
02:02:35  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> can u doo    2  slh  won  for  the  food plant  and  won for the  oil  deop of
02:02:50  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ther  shord  be 2  sign
02:03:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> won  say  slh04
02:03:06  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ye i saw the
02:03:08  <Stablean> <Djanxy> them
02:03:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> eney  way  have fun
02:03:59  <Stablean> <Djanxy> thanks
02:04:13  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be  backto mor
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02:06:42  <happy_> djanxy if u need me i bee  on the  irc  on  my  mob phone
02:06:48  <happy_> ok
02:06:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ok
02:12:22  <Stablean> <bon> joe you ever going use that forest next to garfingway-on-sea anyway?
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02:15:49  <happy__> wb big meech
02:15:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lmao
02:16:02  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi
02:16:18  <happy__> hi
02:16:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> whats up wit the wrong facing singal?
02:17:27  <happy__> not shor
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02:18:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lmao youre gonna leave during constrution???? xD
02:18:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wtf
02:18:20  <Stablean> <Djanxy> well seems you took over
02:18:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> mother fuck
02:18:57  <Stablean> <Big Meech> god fucking dammit
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02:21:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you cant quit when you start
02:21:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> dont do that again
02:22:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i cant figure out wheere shit goes when you remove it
02:22:11  <Stablean> <Djanxy> why build where im building though
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02:22:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that area is shit
02:22:49  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah
02:22:55  <happy__> hi  jl
02:23:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that slh with the 2 huge bridges sould connect somewhere else
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02:24:56  <happy__> will troy port them ther  so  not shor wher  else to  port them
02:25:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I know a great area where they could go
02:25:14  <Stablean> <bon> joe?
02:26:35  <happy__> doo a sign  and i arsk troy or vinnie whont  ther say
02:26:59  <happy__> wb bon
02:33:06  <happy__> most ov the ml is 2 way
02:33:30  <happy__> but most ov it need to be
02:38:33  <Stablean> <bon> joe..I know you know english.....?
02:38:51  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> oh what
02:39:17  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> whats up bon
02:39:27  <Stablean> <bon> you going use that forest by garfingway-on-sea?
02:40:05  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yes
02:40:07  <Stablean> <bon> ok
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02:45:20  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yoyo!
02:45:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> oy
02:45:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hey sylf
02:46:20  <happy__> hi
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02:47:41  <happy__> how things sylf
02:48:09  <Stablean> <Sylf> slow
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02:50:55  <Stablean> <bon> well I'm going to bed already so bye till tomorrow :-s
02:51:01  <Stablean> <Slicey> ..
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02:51:06  <Stablean> <Slicey> ..........................
02:51:36  <BiG_MEECH> Stop doing biologies
02:51:46  <Stablean> <Slicey> sry man
02:51:47  <BiG_MEECH> Do some openttdologies
02:51:50  <Stablean> <Slicey> lol
02:51:56  <Stablean> <Slicey> maybe i will
02:52:42  <Stablean> <Slicey> i see a plantation :)
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02:57:13  <Stablean> <Slicey> meech
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03:21:07  <happy_> player u  got to change your  name
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03:21:22  <Stablean> <Slicey> lol
03:21:52  <happy_> ok
03:23:29  <happy_> y doo players doo that  thats werd
03:23:38  <Stablean> <Slicey> idk
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03:52:58  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you still there happy ? :D
03:54:11  <BiG_MEECH>  If not I am xD
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03:54:25  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
03:55:23  <Stablean> <Djanxy> added SLH04 and 2nd line connected all the way to BBH
03:56:27  <BiG_MEECH> sweet
04:01:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> SLH only connects south though since it's right next to food plant
04:02:00  <Stablean> <Djanxy> can be added if needd
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04:17:56  <Stablean> <Yugi_D> vfts, would u like me to shift my line? if so, which?
04:21:04  <BiG_MEECH> I dont think VFtS talks at all
04:21:53  <Stablean> <Yugi_D> oh well, their loss...
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04:31:11  <BiG_MEECH> Yeah, I dont think its his loss xD
04:31:23  <Stablean> <Djanxy> lol
04:31:26  <BiG_MEECH> Maybe he will talk if you start to build over him and through him xD
04:31:48  <Stablean> <Yugi_D> i have build over and under him
04:35:28  <Stablean> <Yugi_D> bbl
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04:41:13  <BiG_MEECH> !players
04:41:15  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 1158 (Dark Blue) is JoeSchmoe, in company 9 (Chaos Transport)
04:41:15  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 1183 (Light Blue) is UCS, in company 11 (UCS Transport)
04:41:15  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 1179 (Blue) is vfts, in company 6 (vfts Transport)
04:41:15  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 1140 is Anson, a spectator
04:41:15  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 1154 (Red) is Djanxy, in company 2 (happy tran  sport Transport)
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06:28:43  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
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06:30:16  <Stablean> <V453000> JoeSchmoe: a general hint, making all trains of same length is generally a good idea :P
06:30:44  <Stablean> <V453000> building waiting spots for combined train lengths can get unnecessarily complicated ;)
06:31:15  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I'm expirimenting
06:31:21  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> trains 3 and 7
06:31:23  <Stablean> <V453000> k :)
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06:33:09  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I think I see the train you were talking about that station should have all been TL3
06:33:19  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> i mean all TL7
06:33:21  <Stablean> <V453000> I was talking more like in general, not very specifically :)
06:33:47  <Stablean> <V453000> it is possible to mix train lengths without problems but that requires specific network setup or adjustments
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06:34:55  <BiG_MEECH> You should tell us more V453000
06:37:27  <Stablean> <V453000> no.
06:37:37  <BiG_MEECH> you bitch
06:37:47  <Stablean> <V453000> :0
06:38:22  <BiG_MEECH> you like it when i call you bitch and pull your hair
06:38:30  <BiG_MEECH> don't be in shock
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07:28:34  <Stablean> <Anson> player please use another name
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07:29:53  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to hdd
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07:30:33  <Stablean> <Anson> thanks, hdd
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08:09:37  <Stablean> <Player> rules
08:09:48  <Stablean> <Anson> when you want to play, please don't be an anonymous player
08:10:05  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#13)
08:10:17  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I've got stuck trains
08:10:24  <planetmaker> Player, please choose an appropriate nickname
08:10:28  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> i put a sign there
08:10:44  <V453000> I wouldnt define required as "appropriate" :P just Something authentic :)
08:10:45  <planetmaker> use !name or open console and type name mynewname
08:11:11  <planetmaker> that's the definition of 'appropriate' ;-) Nearly at least
08:11:21  <planetmaker> V453000 or planetmaker would be forbidden ;-)
08:11:21  <V453000> somewhat :D
08:11:41  <V453000> well yeah but in most cases e.g. AssThunder would not be exactly defined as appropriate :P
08:11:50  <planetmaker> :-P
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08:13:23  <Stablean> <Anson> joe, now both trains in the station want to go to the depot
08:13:31  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> no
08:13:35  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> check the bridge
08:13:38  <Stablean> <Anson> one reserved the path and thus the other is waiting
08:13:40  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> it its a bug
08:13:59  <Stablean> <Anson> is that an electric train ?
08:14:04  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I added the depot to try to unstick them
08:14:08  <Stablean> <Anson> and the rail has no cetenary ?
08:14:15  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> doh
08:14:37  <Stablean> <Anson> :-)
08:14:48  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> I thought it automatically picked up the most used track
08:15:23  <Stablean> <Anson> that selection only applies to the beginning, eg after you join, start a new offline map, whatever
08:16:05  <Stablean> <Anson> wouldn't make sense otherwise, if it ALWAYS selects that type ... how would you start with another type when it automatically switches back ? .-)
08:17:01  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> If I have 10k tracks all electric, when I reload the game I'm going to want electric
08:17:11  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> otherwise I'd switch back
08:17:41  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> oh well
08:17:43  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> bed time
08:18:25  <Stablean> <Anson> i think the game does that ... the most used tracktype ... but i also think it selects the most used type on the map and not in your company
08:18:35  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> ah
08:18:46  <Stablean> <Anson> and there is a setting whether you want it
08:18:56  <Stablean> <Anson> most used, or first, or last
08:19:06  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> yeah I have it on most used for offline
08:19:34  <Stablean> <Anson> did you put down signals on the track that you rebuilt ?
08:19:52  <Stablean> <Anson> at sign ?signals?
08:20:02  <Stablean> <JoeSchmoe> thanks
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10:15:31  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, happy
10:15:33  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
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10:16:07  <Stablean> <Anson> my patience ? :-(
10:26:41  <Stablean> <Anson> watch now !!!
10:33:20  <Stablean> <Anson> hey ... did you see the loaded train that just arrived ?
10:58:11  <Stablean> <Anson> station renamed, making trains leave the station now to rebuild the station with the proper type
10:58:53  <Stablean> <Anson> now rebuild the station entrance/overflow
10:59:24  <Stablean> <vfts> please take$ 100000 to give
11:00:02  <Stablean> <vfts> please take$ 100000 to give
11:00:14  <Stablean> <vfts> please take$ 100000 to give
11:01:00  <Stablean> <vfts>  thank you
11:01:03  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> np
11:09:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport>  i show   u
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11:19:16  <Taede> !playercount
11:19:16  <Stablean> Taede: Number of players: 4 (0 spectators)
11:22:53  <Taede> !rules
11:22:54  <Stablean> Taede: Rules are at
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11:44:23  <Stablean> <bon> hi
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12:06:43  <Stablean> <Anson> thanks ... do you want to leave the game ?
12:06:53  <Stablean> <bon> ?
12:07:09  <Stablean> <Anson> vfts just donated some money
12:07:16  <Stablean> <bon> oh
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12:20:15  <Stablean> <V453000> heyo
12:20:33  <Stablean> <bon> hi
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12:40:11  <Stablean> <bon> ok looks like I got things stabilized for two new routes as well
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12:46:19  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi
12:47:10  <Stablean> <bon> hi djanxy
12:47:12  <Stablean> <bon> how're you?
12:47:58  <Stablean> <Djanxy> good thanks, and you?
12:48:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> isnt it a bit early for you ?
12:48:59  <Stablean> <bon> not really
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13:01:35  <Stablean> <Djanxy> just spotted a superslow bridge that i replaced anson :D
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13:04:33  <Taede> !playercount
13:04:33  <Stablean> Taede: Number of players: 3 (0 spectators)
13:05:57  <Stablean> <bon> brb
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13:10:46  <V453000> !date
13:10:46  <Stablean> V453000:  5 Feb 1997
13:13:59  <Stablean> <bon> back
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13:36:59  <Stablean> <bon> hi taede
13:37:22  <Taede> ello
13:49:04  <Stablean> <bon> going afk for a bit now
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14:51:19  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, happy
14:51:23  <happy_> hi
14:52:23  <Stablean> <Anson> while i was afk to eat something, we had a jam for half an hour ... it started just when you returned to irc
14:53:50  <Stablean> <Anson> the tail of the jam will resilve in maybe a minute :-)
14:54:42  <happy_> ar  ok  ichek  it out      in a mite  i got  to doo  a  won  job  to doo
14:55:38  <Stablean> <Anson> it was a train that was somehow stuck at a station ... no idea why, but i only had to reverse it to fix the jam
14:55:51  <happy_> ok
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15:03:04  <Stablean> <Muel> ;
15:03:06  <Stablean> <Muel> hi
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15:04:50  <Stablean> <Muel> Anson: ?
15:05:04  <Stablean> <bon> hi muel and anson
15:05:10  <Stablean> <Muel> hi bon
15:06:05  <Stablean> <bon> how're you?
15:06:15  <Stablean> <Muel> fine and you ?
15:09:26  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, Muel ... and all others :-)
15:09:36  <Stablean> <bon> doing ok aside to being a little bit ill atm :-s
15:10:18  <Stablean> <Anson>   !rename bon to mal :-)
15:10:42  <Stablean> <Muel> Anson: ? y see on sign up "do all stations have 2 grups" why go train only for 1 ?
15:11:17  <Stablean> <Muel> train 218
15:11:24  <Stablean> <Anson> Muel : do you know what shared orders are ?
15:11:58  <Stablean> <Muel> yes i know
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15:12:40  <Stablean> <Anson> when i started checking our trains, i noticed that many stations had two groups of shared orders ... same orders, but not shared among all of them
15:13:11  <Stablean> <Anson> one station had eg 12 trains with the same orders, but 6 shared them, and the other 6 shared them :-(
15:14:03  <Stablean> <Muel> y see on "it is better"
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15:14:46  <V453000> gg
15:16:58  <Stablean> <Anson> the missing rails at "it is better" were from some test ... forgot to replace them
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15:25:45  <Stablean> <Anson> djanxy has found one of the slow bridges (speed 48) ... can you please check all bridges and update them ... i think they now can all be replaced with the fastest ones ... and if some are too short, make them 1 tile longer to get max speed
15:26:11  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep  will doo
15:27:38  <Stablean> <Anson> and while you are checking, please look for dead primaries ... i have replaced engines and also wagons, but some trains didn't replace, probably because they are still waiting at dead industries
15:32:05  <Stablean> <bon> you mean to keep running some Thunder KIss's? :)
15:33:03  <Stablean> <Anson> no, they only didn't replace ... probably since they are still waiting at a dead primary
15:34:01  <Stablean> <bon> they're actually moving
15:34:39  <Stablean> <bon> and btw funny circular junctions you have :)
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15:46:03  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> its   vinnie
15:46:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hi all
15:46:07  <Stablean> <bon> hi vinnie
15:46:07  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
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15:46:42  <Stablean> <bon> always many people in happy's company... :->
15:46:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> happy is nice to invite
15:46:58  <Stablean> <bon> mm
15:47:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> got it
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16:15:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> im gonna go easy on that SLH
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16:18:06  <Stablean> <King Peky> Hello
16:18:14  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
16:18:42  <Stablean> <Accurator> ?
16:19:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> its a reference to a sign and the occurence happening on the given location
16:19:20  <Stablean> <Accurator> ...
16:19:22  <Stablean> <Accurator> anyways...
16:19:28  <Stablean> <Accurator> i guess i really need money now...
16:19:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> can you find a the signlist?
16:19:52  <Stablean> <Accurator> thnx!
16:20:22  <Stablean> <bon> hmm did you try touch the water? just wondering how such a small circle can run up the cot
16:20:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> did troy make the 2L2R there?
16:20:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  king  peky
16:21:02  <Stablean> <Accurator> this "little circle" costed me 900k...
16:21:44  <Stablean> <AssThunder> yooo
16:21:44  <Stablean> <bon> dunno what you were doing but shift+click on a similar length gives me a very low number
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16:21:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i do know it
16:21:53  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
16:22:00  <Stablean> <King Peky> Hi
16:22:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi v
16:23:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> lol
16:24:26  <Stablean> <bon> mm whats funy?  :)
16:24:44  <Stablean> <Vinnie> some teamchat where happy explained evil mode
16:24:50  <Stablean> <bon> :p
16:25:28  <Stablean> <Accurator> wut, removing water or building on it costs millions
16:25:34  <Stablean> <bon> ofc -_-
16:25:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> correct
16:25:46  <Stablean> <Vinnie> this is terraform unfriendly server
16:25:52  <Stablean> <Accurator> aha
16:25:59  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie..more of water-unfriendly
16:26:01  <Stablean> <bon> :)
16:27:01  <Stablean> <Accurator> now i can build a tram system so the towns here grow a bit...
16:27:35  <Stablean> <Accurator> oh god
16:27:47  <Stablean> <bon> ?
16:28:01  <Stablean> <Accurator> now the authorities dont allow me to do that
16:28:06  <planetmaker> busses help as good as trams to grow a town. Additionally they drive on cheap road
16:28:21  <Stablean> <bon> except buses don't know where to go as told to
16:28:23  <Stablean> <bon> :)
16:28:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Accurator: im going to kill trees you replant them
16:28:46  <Stablean> <Accurator> ...okay then
16:29:04  <Stablean> <Anson> look at the advanced options : max 1000 trains, 10 RV (bus/truck/tram), 0 ships, 0 planes
16:29:06  <Stablean> <V453000> bon why does Feningville have below 50% transported?
16:29:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> your at good, max rating
16:29:21  <planetmaker> hehe
16:29:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> with trees
16:29:32  <Stablean> <Accurator> cacti ftw
16:30:22  <Stablean> <bon> heh cactus...the bane of deserts :)
16:32:08  <Stablean> <Accurator> nice... this tram has both highest speed and capacity
16:32:23  <Stablean> <bon> yeah
16:32:34  <Stablean> <bon> same on freight side too
16:32:56  <Stablean> <Accurator> ?
16:32:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> thanks King Peky we are noobs
16:33:08  <Stablean> <King Peky> :D
16:33:14  <Stablean> <Accurator> freight side?
16:33:17  <Stablean> <V453000> fuking noobs
16:33:32  <Stablean> <bon> accurator..scroll down to bottom of the buy list..they're below the passenger ones
16:33:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we aim to please the uber noob
16:33:48  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
16:33:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you happy V?
16:33:48  <Stablean> <Accurator> ...
16:33:54  <Stablean> <V453000> :D im done
16:38:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> wtf where did the service orders come from
16:38:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> stopped
16:39:26  <Stablean> <bon> beats me...and three old Kiss's are still running around too
16:39:56  <Stablean> <V453000> prooobably bad depotting system ;)
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16:40:09  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
16:40:11  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
16:40:26  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey ali
16:40:39  <Stablean> <bon> hi dnz-ali
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16:40:53  <Stablean> <RTM> hi happy tran  sport
16:40:59  <Stablean> <bon> hi rtfm around anywhere? ;)
16:41:01  <Stablean> <bon> heh
16:41:01  <Stablean> <RTM> hi hdd
16:41:03  <Stablean> <RTM> hi bon
16:41:09  <Stablean> <RTM> hi Vinnie
16:41:11  <Stablean> <RTM> hi Anson
16:41:17  <Stablean> <RTM> hi thepower12n
16:41:23  <Stablean> <RTM> hi Accurator
16:41:29  <Stablean> <RTM> hi King Peky
16:41:33  <Stablean> <RTM> hi V453000
16:41:35  <Stablean> <bon> heh thats one BIG traffic jam you just made now red :)
16:41:38  <Stablean> <RTM> hi Dnz-Ali
16:41:44  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no it isnt
16:41:58  <Stablean> <King Peky> Hello
16:42:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> its conntrolled expenditures cost management
16:42:10  <Stablean> <RTM> no bon
16:42:12  <Stablean> <bon> actually... 60+ trains stopped....does look like a jam? :)
16:42:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> stopped means no running cost
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16:42:44  <Stablean> <V453000> :d
16:42:47  <Stablean> <RTM> nop id does
16:42:59  <Stablean> <RTM> nop id does cost
16:43:01  <Stablean> <bon> umm a stopped car still has its engine running so I dunno where you're getting that term from :)
16:43:11  <Stablean> <Vinnie> silence i stopped all trains to prove it
16:43:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> see our finances
16:43:31  <Stablean> <V453000> congratulations bon
16:43:35  <Stablean> <V453000> logic ftw
16:44:29  <Stablean> <Anson> there is a difference between a car that has its motor running at a red light, and a STOPPED car that paks in a garage
16:44:39  <Stablean> <bon> stop != park
16:45:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> well i assume when the train says stopped in the train window you mean park?
16:45:21  <Stablean> <V453000> lmfao
16:45:35  <Stablean> <V453000> bon so what does Stopped in red text mean in train window
16:45:37  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah
16:45:52  <Stablean> <V453000> so shove traffic terms up your behind :>
16:47:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> rogue trains
16:47:12  <Stablean> <Accurator> ?
16:47:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> there evil trains that obey to no master
16:48:06  <Stablean> <Accurator> ...?
16:48:16  <Stablean> <RTM> thats a good one!
16:48:19  <Stablean> <RTM> Vinnie:
16:48:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> I escaped from a loony bin, does that make any sence?
16:48:32  <Stablean> <RTM> yep
16:48:36  <Stablean> <RTM> kinda
16:49:14  <Stablean> <Accurator> why do my trams go to their depots all the time?
16:49:33  <Stablean> <RTM> where?
16:49:40  <Stablean> <Accurator> here
16:49:51  <Stablean> <bon> probably trying to turn around at first...but not needed now
16:50:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> does not happen anymore
16:50:11  <Stablean> <Accurator> but they also skip a station doing so
16:51:25  <Stablean> <Accurator> ?
16:51:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the most likely explanation would be that the route trough your depot and back allong the line is less pathfinder costs then going straight ahead
16:51:41  <Stablean> <Accurator> ...
16:51:51  <Stablean> <Vinnie> can you count?
16:51:53  <Stablean> <Accurator> but they skip a station
16:52:03  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie heh yeah
16:52:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes the one they visited
16:52:27  <Stablean> <Accurator>
16:52:46  <Stablean> <Accurator> they skip a station
16:52:52  <Stablean> <Accurator> then go to the depot
16:52:55  <Stablean> <Vinnie> anyway pathfinder finds all paths adds costs to drive trough stations curves slopes roadcrossings and in case of rail signals and there statusses
16:52:57  <Stablean> <bon> again I don't see anything
16:53:00  <Stablean> <Accurator> then go back to the station they missed
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16:53:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the one with the least amount of costs is chosen
16:54:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> make stations 2 tiles long
16:54:08  <Stablean> <Accurator> ...thats funny...
16:54:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> occupied and it sees a route trough to the other loop that is free
16:54:21  <Stablean> <Accurator> still where my trams are?
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16:54:45  <Stablean> <bon> mmm *waits for mayor to increase rating a bit*
16:54:59  <Stablean> <Accurator> but they have to go through the same path twice this way
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16:55:14  <Stablean> <Vinnie> when a tram is loading on the other side
16:55:18  <Stablean> <Accurator> i know
16:55:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it assuses it is still loading when it arrives
16:55:36  <Stablean> <Accurator> now i got an idea...
16:55:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> so it changes from clockwise to anti-clockwise to meet an empty platform
16:56:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> if you make the busstops 2 tiles long it is a good idea
16:56:03  <Stablean> <Accurator> look at this!
16:56:23  <Stablean> <Accurator> there
16:56:29  <Stablean> <Accurator> two stations
16:56:37  <Stablean> <bon> maybe stop making a fuss out of comptent drivers ;)
16:56:51  <Stablean> <Vinnie> never
16:57:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i wanna bitch and moan about everything in this game
16:57:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> to show it love
16:57:12  <Stablean> <bon> :P
16:57:14  <Stablean> <Accurator> this really is a way better system
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16:57:42  <Stablean> <Accurator> one more station below...
16:57:48  <Stablean> <Accurator> aww
16:58:06  <Stablean> <Accurator> my rating is mediocre... still cant remove anything then
16:58:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> only roads sometimes
16:58:28  <Stablean> <bon> <is still on Poor and waiting for one more house
16:58:50  <Stablean> <Accurator> there
16:59:01  <Stablean> <Accurator> now my rating might improve
16:59:15  <Stablean> <Accurator> and there...
16:59:29  <Stablean> <Accurator> that road is gone there can be houses there
16:59:47  <Stablean> <Accurator> now that that*
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17:01:18  <Stablean> <Accurator> still not much passengers here
17:01:32  <Stablean> <bon> you need to wait a few years roughly :)
17:01:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ill send you a cookie to make up for it
17:02:10  <Stablean> <Accurator> now i can get eight trams here
17:03:16  <Stablean> <Accurator> wut
17:03:23  <Stablean> <Accurator> bridges are expensive too
17:03:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> depends on location
17:03:41  <Stablean> <Vinnie> dont put it on a jagged edge with ater
17:03:47  <Stablean> <bon> ya ^^
17:03:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> water*
17:04:44  <Stablean> <bon> *waits for mayor to walk faster*
17:04:54  <Stablean> <Accurator> ...?
17:05:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you got 94 milion, buy the bastard
17:05:43  <Stablean> <Accurator> wait what...
17:05:46  <Stablean> <Anson> a bridge on a diagonal coastline is not costly itself ... it is the water that makes it costly, like all terraforming and water terraforming
17:05:48  <Stablean> <Accurator> "very poor"
17:06:02  <Stablean> <Accurator> what..!
17:06:13  <Stablean> <Accurator> i got excellent on the stations!
17:07:28  <Stablean> <Accurator> where'd that poor rating come from
17:07:59  <Stablean> <Anson> town rating is independent of station ratings
17:08:09  <Stablean> <Accurator> ...wut?
17:08:19  <Stablean> <Accurator> not like normal openttd?
17:08:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it like everything is new to you
17:08:31  <Stablean> <bon> seem like it vinnie
17:08:41  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you know that tommorow the sun is gonna come up in the east?
17:08:43  <Stablean> <Anson> town rating gets a few ponts per month, plus some more when you have an active station, minus some when you have an inactive station
17:08:53  <Stablean> <Anson> details at
17:09:08  <Stablean> <Accurator> ...okay
17:09:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ... yes
17:09:50  <Stablean> <Accurator> maybe those 2 road pieces were very special to them
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17:10:12  <Stablean> <Accurator> oh well
17:10:18  <Stablean> <Accurator> everyone loves cacti
17:10:32  <Stablean> <Anson> and here is a link for happy :-)
17:10:34  <Stablean> <Anson>
17:10:34  <Stablean> <Vinnie> exceot tree huggers
17:10:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> except
17:11:14  <Stablean> <Anson> also called "Destructive Interference"
17:11:17  <Stablean> <Accurator> a cactus is in fact NOT a tree
17:11:39  <Stablean> <bon> anyhow I'm going see what I can eat now
17:11:47  <Stablean> <bon> bye till a few hours later or so :)
17:11:58  <Stablean> <Anson> haribo sweets are in fact no trees either :-)
17:12:12  <Stablean> <Accurator> you can haz cactus pudding
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17:12:38  <Stablean> <Anson> you can have cactus alc :-)
17:12:44  <Stablean> <Accurator> alc?
17:12:55  <Stablean> <Accurator> ale*?
17:12:57  <Stablean> <niemiec> guys, friend told me, that i can find here train logic system
17:13:09  <Stablean> <Accurator> noo
17:13:19  <Stablean> <Accurator> logic-train-system!
17:13:26  <Stablean> <Accurator> that you can find here
17:13:28  <Stablean> <Anson> alcohol, schnaps :-)
17:13:46  <Stablean> <niemiec> so, how it works?
17:14:04  <Stablean> <Accurator> logic train also likes cacti
17:14:51  <Stablean> <Accurator> here comes
17:15:10  <Stablean> <Anson> look at how presignals work ... the information of a rail status (used/free) is relayed along a series of signals and thus you can combine them to create logic circuits
17:15:24  <Stablean> <Accurator> here!
17:15:35  <Stablean> <Anson> read the wiki and the advanced bulding reviews ... there are several articles about logic
17:15:41  <Stablean> <niemiec> lol
17:16:04  <Stablean> <Accurator> search the logic train system
17:16:49  <Stablean> <niemiec> Anson: i look at your short stations
17:17:31  <Stablean> <Accurator> what you mean you cant find depot
17:18:25  <Stablean> <Anson> overflows are part of all the logic you can build
17:18:47  <Stablean> <Accurator> logic trains expensive :*(
17:19:17  <Stablean> <niemiec> ok, so tell me, why overflow is beeter than forced depots?
17:19:27  <Stablean> <Anson> to avoid that the pathfinder sends trains to random depots (eg for autoreplace), you can hide depots from the pathfinder by making them "invisible" behind a reverser or terminus station
17:19:45  <Stablean> <Anson> all that is part of the logic, and there are many pages in the wiki about it
17:19:47  <Stablean> <Accurator> anyways
17:19:49  <Stablean> <Accurator> i gotta eat
17:19:55  <Stablean> <Accurator> bye
17:19:57  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb
17:20:00  <Stablean> <niemiec> bb
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17:20:30  <Stablean> <niemiec> ok, i will read about it
17:20:57  <Stablean> <Anson> forced depot is completely different from overflow ... forced depots send trains there to do maintenance, and overflow depots store trains if there are too many trains coming to a station at one time
17:22:04  <Stablean> <niemiec> i always build double forced depots on the lines
17:22:50  <Stablean> <Anson> of course, you can build forced depots with signals so that they serve as overflow depots ... but the useful overflow depots are conditional overflows ... in the ABR, there are at least thre articles about overflows
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17:23:24  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi wood
17:23:27  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy
17:23:29  <Stablean> <Anson> when you read them, keep in mind that some of the info is rather old (8 years?) and people might have invented better solutions in the meantime
17:23:35  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
17:23:41  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> good thanks, you?
17:23:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
17:23:51  <Stablean> <Anson> i have to do some phonecalls ... afk
17:23:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
17:25:04  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> i always miss the map start
17:26:08  <Stablean> <niemiec> i going back to my server. I will read about overflow
17:26:10  <Stablean> <niemiec> bb
17:26:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport>  will   u can john  my  company
17:26:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb
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17:26:57  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thanks
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17:31:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  player
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17:31:53  <Stablean> <kuch3n> hi
17:31:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
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17:47:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  troy
17:47:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
17:47:59  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
17:48:01  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
17:48:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi all in this company
17:49:33  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> mura?
17:49:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes mura
17:50:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's a japanese term, used in , among others, the LEAN concept
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18:04:58  <Stablean> <Accurator> back
18:05:02  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> wb
18:14:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> RED POWAH!!!
18:14:27  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol
18:14:37  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> wb Vinnie
18:14:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey all
18:16:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes it is
18:17:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i think someone else might have done it tough
18:17:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I did it
18:17:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> before doubling
18:17:32  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i see
18:17:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I don't know if I doubled
18:17:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or someone else
18:17:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it was forgotten to be removed
18:18:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> It still is... :(
18:18:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i think you do better doubels of BBH's
18:18:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> than?
18:18:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> what the current BBH is
18:19:11  <Stablean> <Vinnie> meaning i dont think you build it
18:19:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I did
18:19:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but you're right
18:19:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the balancing part sucked
18:19:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sucks\
18:22:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you improved it slightly?
18:22:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie> that one merger
18:22:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> with prio's
18:22:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> to unjam something
18:22:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I have a question
18:23:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you're letting the 'SL' balancers merge before injecting them in the ML
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18:23:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why?
18:23:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the X points?
18:24:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, they're before the entry signal
18:24:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why not:
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18:24:21  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi jam
18:24:24  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
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18:24:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
18:24:49  <Stablean> <Vinnie> im the wierdo that likes to do things equal before i consider it balanced see below
18:24:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> if ya can't beat em...
18:25:02  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol
18:27:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
18:27:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no choices get prio over choices
18:27:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> makes any sense?
18:27:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm
18:27:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I don't get why this situation would be different in this respect, to this situation:
18:28:04  <Stablean> <Vinnie> see that i connect 1/2 to 1/2 and consider them equal
18:28:15  <Stablean> <Vinnie> same principle
18:28:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie> also very good
18:28:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, my question is:
18:28:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why do you use A, instead of B?
18:28:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> simple answer qould be a builders choice
18:29:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> imho, B has a slight advantage
18:29:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> same as i still use pre-signals on double bridges
18:29:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P
18:29:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I'll try to explain
18:29:58  <Stablean> <Vinnie> also in my opinion mine gives me advantages
18:30:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which?
18:30:35  <Stablean> <Vinnie> join for two can very easily be expanded to join for 3
18:30:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
18:30:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's the argument?
18:31:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah
18:31:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it can be expanded?
18:31:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> its enough for me
18:31:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
18:31:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you don't worry about the varying lengths that trains might stand on X or Y?
18:33:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no i adjust my signals accordingly and once i expand to 3 lines in it will have room for 3+ trains in that spot
18:33:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i see the gap behind the presignal split as the equal divisor of that splits incomming traffic
18:33:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
18:34:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> all builders choice so far
18:34:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> nothing is wrong
18:38:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> long bridges before short bridges
18:38:55  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it isnt me
18:39:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> me
18:39:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ;)
18:39:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> why?
18:39:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> LOL
18:39:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> long bridges before short ones
18:39:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> otherwise trains go in the one that is occupied later on
18:43:31  <V453000> wise wordz
18:43:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what?
18:43:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> RED POWERRR!
18:43:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ?
18:43:57  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> :)
18:44:18  <V453000> GG
18:45:41  <Stablean> <Vinnie> up to 9 is 2
18:45:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah
18:45:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but sometimes 9 or 10 is questionable
18:46:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 10 could work with some trains
18:46:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i thinks acceleration should be slow so traingaps are longer to work with 10
18:46:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> + I never know what is exactly meant by gap and how it is calculated:
18:47:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> consider !this
18:47:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah imthere
18:48:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you see what I mean?
18:48:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> gap 4 for block gap 5 for pbs
18:48:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
18:48:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wait
18:48:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
18:49:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> altough pbs argument can be made that the crossing is cleared earlier so it will trigger green sooner
18:49:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> erm
18:49:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, at least you know what I mean
18:49:46  <Stablean> <Vinnie> well now the golden rule to work by that solve every problem
18:50:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> just build it fix it when it fails
18:50:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and what is that golden rule?
18:50:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> lol
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18:50:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
18:50:28  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cool that's what i do :)
18:51:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so, Tondingworth for goods and food?
18:52:24  <Stablean> <Vinnie> isnt oil drop close?
18:52:26  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> you gonna do the goods>steel>goods thingy?
18:52:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that was the 2nd question
18:53:22  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> it is vinnie but it's hard to find a town that is sorta equal between oil/factory and food
18:53:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> im fine with anything just here to build
18:54:09  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> if you have a better suggestion go for it
18:55:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> these primaries need consolidating to 1 or 2 slh
18:55:46  <Stablean> <Jam35> cba
18:56:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> me neither need to look at jurrasic park 2
18:56:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> need to?
18:56:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sounds important then
18:56:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ;)
18:56:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it is
18:57:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> there was some redhead in it
18:57:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> Jeff Goldblum?
18:57:23  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol
18:57:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you and i have different sexual orientation
18:57:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh right
18:57:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's one of the rules on the internet
18:57:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> everybody is male...
18:58:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> troy a girl name?
18:58:18  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> and little boys are FBI
18:58:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nope
18:58:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but you weren't talking to me
18:58:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ;)
19:01:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> damnit now i need to google who that guy is
19:01:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> "P
19:01:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P
19:01:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> apparently a red head
19:01:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no he ai;t
19:01:59  <Stablean> <Vinnie> he is malcom
19:02:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> idk :)
19:02:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> either that, or he's in JP2
19:02:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> he is on 1 and 2 but has no red hear
19:02:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> he's in the first film that is all i know
19:02:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> his best film was The Fly
19:02:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah that one was ok
19:03:00  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> that was a decent remake
19:03:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> still can remember the spitting scene
19:03:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> The Fly 2 sucked
19:03:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, that guy
19:03:16  <Stablean> <Accurator> back
19:03:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> yeh that was sick
19:03:44  <Stablean> <Accurator> why is everyone in happy tran sport transport?
19:03:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> we are happy
19:03:57  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it pays
19:03:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we're the cool kids
19:04:01  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> RED POWA!
19:04:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's why
19:04:15  <Stablean> <Accurator> why is noone in cactus corp D*:
19:04:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> also pretty mutch regualrs on this server
19:04:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> it sucks
19:05:03  <Stablean> <Jam35> oh that's you :)
19:05:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ow shit it julliana moore
19:05:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> joking man :)
19:05:14  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> funny it's happys and Happy is like the only person not here atm
19:05:14  <Stablean> <Vinnie> fuck
19:05:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> big lebowski has here naked scene so im wasting my time
19:05:51  <Stablean> <Accurator> why did someone take yellow already D:
19:05:53  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> so it wasn't jeff?
19:06:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> nope it actually was the redhead
19:06:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the one with red hear i mean
19:06:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> altough big lebowski has jeff bridges
19:06:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> so im bound to see a jeff
19:07:00  <Stablean> <Accurator> now i changed my company a bit...
19:07:02  <Stablean> <Accurator> a
19:07:04  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> jeff bridges is a red head too?
19:07:12  <Stablean> <Accurator> someone gonna join now?
19:07:57  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i dont know he is always pretty bald
19:07:59  <Stablean> <Accurator> ...
19:08:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> like in iron man
19:08:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> what are we doing?
19:09:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> whats the pw?
19:09:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> damnit now i need to startup irc
19:09:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ty
19:09:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> :)
19:09:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if you really want to build something, there's a MSH that needs to be built...
19:10:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no we are pro's
19:10:24  <Stablean> <Vinnie> check train 2
19:10:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> you only :p
19:10:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> luck
19:10:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it was cacti
19:11:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> was it whoop-woop-that-is-the-sound-of-the-police
19:11:14  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ?
19:11:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> nope we are admins here
19:12:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> so what is the plan?
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19:12:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Troy could you send some money please?
19:12:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> paupers
19:13:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> next?
19:13:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> there
19:13:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> game over
19:13:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> destorying towns is quite expencive? lets try that
19:13:55  <Stablean> <Accurator> here goes the LOLLERCOASTER
19:15:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm
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19:16:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and that's what I spent 10M on
19:16:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh great HE's in too
19:16:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> join #12
19:16:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I hear they're destroying stuff over there ;)
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19:16:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lmao
19:17:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I blame Djanxy
19:17:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> everybody else blames you
19:17:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just so you know
19:17:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oh 10 vehicles
19:17:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> grey is not my colour
19:17:44  <Stablean> <Jam35> *color
19:17:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey meech
19:17:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> for Meech
19:18:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you want to seduce meech?
19:18:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> culer
19:18:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> *for happy
19:18:49  <Jam35> been there etc...
19:18:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> did I really do something wrong or you just bullshitting?
19:18:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just bsing
19:19:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> good
19:19:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I am glad the one line got changed
19:19:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you have alot of passengers waiting why not make longer trains?
19:19:46  <Stablean> <Big Meech> where Vinnine made the new SLH
19:20:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> what SLH?
19:20:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> the one yhou did for red
19:20:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> several
19:20:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> near slh01
19:20:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the one tagged /Vinnie for sure
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19:21:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the original that has been lost for msh-like-thingy-1
19:21:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> maybe some more since i worked the first hours of the game with happy alone
19:24:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> if were expanding that area, i suggest Oil Pick while we are at it
19:25:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> idk but that looks messy connected like that
19:26:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> should tondingworth copper be connected to SLH05?
19:26:47  <Stablean> <Big Meech> no I dont think so
19:27:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> but connecting it to steel msh is a bad idea too
19:27:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> no dont connect to slh05
19:27:30  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ?
19:27:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I think that could work
19:27:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> jow meech?
19:28:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> can you get me a beer?
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19:28:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Sure, I love beer
19:28:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ermahgerd
19:28:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lmfao
19:28:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> V is such a bastard xD
19:28:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> lol
19:29:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> where is the new sMSH?
19:29:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hmm we could debug the dedicated server it will show a connection ip
19:29:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> then ban that ip
19:30:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you chenged pbs signals
19:31:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> whatever it supposed to do
19:31:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> brb I need beer too
19:32:04  <V453000> ME?
19:32:06  <V453000> FUCK that isnt true
19:32:13  <V453000> I have arguments!
19:32:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> meech doesnt care about that
19:32:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> arguments are for people with nof fists
19:33:59  <Stablean> <Accurator> ?
19:34:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> that is a good railline
19:34:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it goes somewhere
19:35:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, why?
19:36:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i only saw one sign?
19:36:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Oh
19:36:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> nevermind
19:36:34  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oke the right one is a block signal
19:36:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> default signal
19:36:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> seperated blocks of tracks
19:37:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> can only be occupied by one train otherwise will turn red
19:37:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the lower one is a PBS signal
19:37:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it usses reserved tracks
19:37:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> this way muttiple trains can ussupy the same signalblock
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19:38:13  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> WB
19:38:20  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
19:38:27  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  jam
19:38:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> actually Troy
19:38:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well?
19:38:47  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I thought about moving it way over to connect near darnbridge forest
19:39:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> then what the hell am I building?
19:39:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> madness?
19:39:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nope that isn't it ;)
19:39:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi happy
19:39:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the thing is, I can't fit one leg left of the rubber plantation
19:40:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well then
19:40:07  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
19:40:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> I'm fine
19:40:20  <Stablean> <Big Meech> never forget your rubbers
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19:40:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> nice company :)
19:40:30  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
19:41:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah it will work
19:41:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> expecially now that there is only one way in the loop
19:42:03  <Stablean> <Big Meech> msh for oil?
19:42:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, town drop
19:42:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> tondingworth
19:42:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh
19:42:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> cya
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19:42:47  <Stablean> <Big Meech> only spot where there is room?
19:42:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> between existing MSH and SLH05?
19:43:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
19:46:58  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i have won the game
19:47:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wtg!
19:47:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> god, I lost it
19:47:09  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> grats
19:47:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i am now in the possesion of two cupcakes and a beer
19:47:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Im pro beer but the cupcakes are kinda gay
19:48:03  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I guess the gayness to manliness ratio equals out
19:48:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i thought you liked gay?
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19:48:49  <Stablean> <Vinnie> im not attracted to other guys meech but you make it damn close
19:48:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> PMSL
19:49:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> what does that mean
19:49:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> do i win again by making you uncomfortable?
19:49:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> pee myself laghing
19:49:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> nah i dont care how many people say im gay
19:49:42  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> don't get any on the keyboard
19:49:45  <Stablean> <Vinnie> not into that, go to a truck stop for some of that
19:50:32  <Stablean> <Vinnie> can i help with that new MSH?
19:51:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah
19:51:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you mean the one not being built atm?
19:51:37  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes
19:54:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i can do fine like this
19:54:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> alright
19:54:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> its a nice challenge
19:54:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's unncessary
19:54:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but okay
19:54:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> they were just gross going around the gold
19:54:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> besides we are missing one line going left
19:55:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> carry on then xD
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20:03:04  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hmm
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20:12:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> pretty done
20:13:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> lots
20:13:45  <Stablean> <Vinnie> what design do you want?
20:14:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, those not
20:16:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> will you use full load for steel trains?
20:16:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> if so yes seperate
20:16:49  <Stablean> <Vinnie> full load can jam a drop and thus create a deadlock
20:17:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes
20:17:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yhen no
20:18:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah that way you keep the drop clear so a seperate drop is useless
20:18:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah
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20:20:41  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yet
20:25:16  <Stablean> <Jam35> backwards signals SLH04
20:25:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ty
20:26:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> fixed
20:26:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> solves why trains didn't wait at certain presignals :0
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20:30:54  <Stablean> <bon> hi
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20:31:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
20:31:15  <Stablean> <bon> heh five's a busy party eh? :)
20:31:45  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you could ask to join
20:31:51  <Stablean> <bon> nah
20:31:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> not like we have uber high standards
20:31:56  <Stablean> <bon> too many differences anyway
20:32:46  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we can teach if you want to
20:33:01  <Stablean> <bon> I'll pass on this map for now...
20:33:16  <Stablean> <bon> but if one week or something firs comes up again I probably could use a bit of help tho :)
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20:36:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> only steel train transport goods will make alot of excess goods
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20:38:14  <Stablean> <Mark> hi
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20:38:26  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
20:38:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
20:38:33  <Stablean> <Mark> what
20:38:39  <Stablean> <Mark> how is it 2029 already
20:38:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi mark
20:38:57  <Stablean> <bon> mark...well I only can offer one hint..someone wasn't sleeping at all
20:39:04  <Stablean> <Mark> i guess
20:39:14  <Stablean> <Mark> dont you people have jobs or school or anything
20:40:50  <Stablean> <bon> mark it seem almost always that each time I leave for bed/etc its 40-50 years gone by by the time I get back heh
20:42:11  <V453000> obviously people are in different time zones
20:42:13  <V453000> ;(
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20:43:06  <Stablean> <V453000> 350 trains for 5 people aint enough
20:43:09  <Stablean> <V453000> work harder :P
20:43:19  <Stablean> <V453000> or 6 or ikd
20:43:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I know don't?
20:45:59  <V453000> aye
20:46:38  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#13)
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20:46:59  <Stablean> <Mark> i couldve owned the 6  of you by myself
20:47:50  <Stablean> <V453000> could have would have
20:47:52  <Stablean> <V453000> bitch
20:47:57  <Mark> :D
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20:50:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i hear a plea for a competition?
20:50:22  <Mark> :D
20:50:26  <Mark> well
20:50:44  <Mark> as long as ive got V on my team :P
20:50:51  <Mark> then i can drink beer and watch
20:50:51  <Stablean> <V453000> anytime
20:50:53  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ยงยง
20:51:04  <Stablean> <V453000> I represent Mark
20:51:09  <Mark> great
20:51:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i quote " can own the 6 of you by myself" and you include V in there?
20:51:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> but idk, maybe 6 builders build as fast as V
20:52:38  <Stablean> <V453000> Mark is a company not a person
20:52:45  <Stablean> <V453000> so by myself means by my own means
20:52:49  <Mark> indeed
20:52:59  <Mark> and my imaginary friends too
20:53:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> all of them?
20:53:18  <Stablean> <V453000> im not imaginary :(
20:53:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> sounds like bs to me :p
20:53:29  <Stablean> * V453000 is offended and refuses to minionize
20:53:51  <Stablean> <Vinnie> your alone now
20:54:18  <Mark> oh shit
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20:54:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i'll join your company and be as productive fot you as i did for this company
20:55:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> so basicly 1 SLH and alot of backtalk
20:55:04  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie that would require scouting a new land somewhere else :)
20:56:08  <Mark> well have you seen my amazing network
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20:56:34  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah did V make that for you?
20:56:42  <Mark> he did not
20:56:56  <Mark> all by myself
20:57:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> so he just abuses your name by joining your glorious company and doing nothing
20:57:14  <Mark> exactly
20:57:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the dutch get asraped again
20:57:28  <Mark> fucking alcoholic communist
20:57:36  <Stablean> <V453000> get flood and die
20:57:50  <Mark> :D
20:57:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ooo....kay...
20:58:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i flood your basement any day
20:58:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i own a bucket
20:58:19  <Stablean> <V453000> meaningless island detached from mighty europe will be silent :P
20:58:25  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
20:58:44  <Stablean> <Vinnie> more meaningless then iceland?
20:58:50  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
20:59:04  <Stablean> <bon> if you want meaningless ask Bundinghattan people :)
20:59:14  <Stablean> <V453000> iceland at least doesnt give a shit and annoys the fuck out of everyone with volcanoes
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20:59:24  <Mark> :D
20:59:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hes on  roll
20:59:51  <Stablean> <Vinnie> V what about denmark?
21:00:12  <V453000> all meaningless
21:00:13  <V453000> everything
21:00:15  <V453000> except beer
21:00:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> So germany is good
21:00:50  <Mark> and belgium
21:01:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oh palm beer
21:01:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm
21:01:34  <V453000> no germany is beer but not good enough
21:01:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Vinnie, you did something with SLH01 I'm not too happy with
21:02:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> what can i fix?
21:02:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you see 1 1/2 ML?
21:02:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> nope not by my count
21:02:49  <Stablean> <Vinnie> just a short prio
21:03:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, and it prio's one ML line (from fac)
21:03:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> over one half ML from fac
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21:04:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it has a split
21:04:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> both of them
21:04:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> both?
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21:04:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where's the split of the down one?
21:05:05  <Stablean> <V453000> Troy that it is a SLH does not technically mean that one direction Has to give priority to other
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21:05:13  <Stablean> <V453000> merging -> choosing still has the same logic
21:05:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that one split is from a SL
21:05:22  <Stablean> <V453000> as long as it works I would leave it
21:05:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not a ML
21:05:34  <Stablean> <V453000> I know I can see it
21:05:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and you are still splitting one ML
21:05:36  <Stablean> <RTM> Hi
21:05:42  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
21:05:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> one goes to another ML
21:05:45  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
21:05:47  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
21:05:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and one goes to a one with ML and SL origin
21:06:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oh like that
21:06:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> see it, Vinnie?
21:06:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that it's join before merge with the other SLH is a minor issue
21:07:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but over those 2 tiles there are 1 1/2 ML
21:07:23  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotta go, cyas
21:07:26  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb
21:07:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
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21:08:45  <Stablean> <Vinnie> my prio :(
21:09:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you will be missed
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21:14:41  <Stablean> <bon> quick someone look near Flindwood
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21:14:59  <Stablean> <bon> I was wondering why blue's trains were negative profits and....that is one silly direction mismash
21:15:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, right
21:15:24  <Stablean> <bon> I thought I had told joe doing that kind of thing was bad idea but ehhh guess he'll still have to learn a bit more
21:15:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, you can't do that
21:15:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not with heavy traffic at least
21:15:57  <Stablean> <bon> and trains being longer than platforms too
21:17:04  <Stablean> <bon> :)
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21:18:14  <Stablean> <thepower12n> red your 3>2 is not working 100% near larninghead
21:18:33  <Stablean> <thepower12n> the top line has a que and lowest line can take about 25-50% more trains
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21:19:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> those problems can be attributed to somethin welse
21:19:42  <Stablean> <Mark> weird merging style
21:19:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> *else
21:20:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how is that weird?
21:20:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cause it's unpriod?
21:20:26  <Stablean> <Mark> i would just simply split the middle ML
21:20:36  <Stablean> <Mark> with a prio to both outer onesx
21:20:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
21:20:48  <Stablean> <Mark> not touch the outer MLs at all
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21:21:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but you would have all goods trains and somethin else on one
21:21:06  <Stablean> <Mark> dont see the point in splitting them
21:21:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and only drop offs at one end
21:21:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> one ML
21:21:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> bacause he is batman
21:21:44  <Stablean> <Mark> so
21:21:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nananananananananananananananana
21:22:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> BATMAN!
21:22:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so you don't think goods trains  should be divided over 2 ML's?
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21:22:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> in the case where there are no goods trains:
21:22:46  <Stablean> <Mark> no why should they
21:23:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there are predominantly more only-drop off trains on the right line
21:23:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> with  a lot less on the left line
21:23:41  <Stablean> <Mark> so the middle lane would join to the left more often
21:24:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but 1) would it be balanced enough?
21:24:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and 2) wouldn't it need more (re)balancers further along the line, when the goods trains get off?
21:24:30  <Stablean> <Mark> who cares about balancing
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21:24:52  <Stablean> <Mark> all joins further down the line would prefer to join the lower traffic line
21:25:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, the SL trains would
21:25:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but the trains 'still' on ML would stay on their (fuller or emptier) line
21:25:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> by your saying, you don't need any balancers period
21:25:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> as long as you got a SL choice between ML lanes
21:25:57  <Stablean> <Mark> cause you dont have proper merges at bbh
21:26:17  <Stablean> <Mark> in that case you'll want to balance yeah
21:26:28  <Stablean> <Mark> with proper all to all merges at bbhs theres no need
21:26:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, but that's also balancing -_-
21:27:38  <Stablean> <Mark> see how the choiceless merge at bbh01 is jamming
21:27:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I'd better be fixing that then...
21:27:56  <Stablean> <Mark> add some choice
21:28:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and you see that the incoming lines from left do have a choice?
21:28:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and they don't pick the lighter lane?
21:28:29  <Stablean> <Mark> prios too shoty
21:28:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> anyways, it still needs fixing
21:28:33  <Stablean> <Mark> short
21:28:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah
21:29:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> try that first
21:29:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> otherwise it really needs all to all
21:29:41  <Stablean> <Mark> that merge is good
21:29:48  <Stablean> <Mark> needs longer prios is all
21:30:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nah
21:32:30  <Stablean> <Mark> prio needs to be longer still
21:32:37  <Stablean> <Mark> yeah like that
21:32:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this might be too much
21:32:59  <Stablean> <Mark> no
21:33:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we'll see if it gives problems
21:33:09  <Stablean> <Mark> its fine
21:33:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's all the way down here, you see...
21:33:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but it doesn't overload the other line, so I'm co
21:34:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cool
21:35:07  <Stablean> <Mark> better waiting bays at the inbound merge would help
21:35:15  <Stablean> <Mark> the ml is also near capacity though
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21:37:13  <Stablean> <bon> going afk for a bit..have other things to deal with anyway
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22:14:05  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ello
22:14:07  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
22:14:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
22:15:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh, i see refits
22:15:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
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22:29:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> re-yoyoyoyo
22:29:32  <Stablean> <Djanxy> re-hi
22:29:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
22:29:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yoyo!
22:30:04  <Stablean> <Djanxy> been a while since i held a yoyo :D
22:30:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Theyre fun
22:30:25  <Stablean> <Big Meech> They go up and down
22:30:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> and round and round !
22:31:03  <Stablean> <Big Meech> well you need it to go down to go round and round
22:31:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> depends
22:31:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> what a pain in the ass that is
22:31:27  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you can just hurl it in a circular motion
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22:54:41  <Stablean> <Djanxy> so could might as well be one bridge ;)
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23:00:14  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Lots of red here 8)
23:00:46  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I heard VD is popular too
23:01:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> std's
23:01:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> good
23:02:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh nice
23:04:24  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> we can not ade  eney mor trans  so we  just have to  keep the  net  werk   going
23:04:34  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators
23:04:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why?
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23:11:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sliceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-eeeeey
23:11:48  <Stablean> <Slicey> yooooo
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23:12:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yoooooooo
23:12:13  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb wood
23:12:19  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> yo
23:12:21  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> thanks
23:12:29  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> go big red!
23:12:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> try
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23:13:22  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> we can not  ade  eeny  mor  trans wwood   the  net werk
23:13:56  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> k thanks for the heads up
23:14:18  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things  wood
23:14:24  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> good, you?
23:14:30  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
23:16:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which they didn't
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23:36:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Well, I'm off
23:36:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb peoples
23:36:29  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya
23:36:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> bb
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23:37:17  <Stablean> <Slicey> hiya
23:37:23  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb  bon
23:37:41  <Stablean> <bon> ty happy :)
23:37:45  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi bon
23:37:59  <Stablean> <bon> woodbutcher :p
23:38:05  <Stablean> <Slicey> i see how it is bon
23:40:07  <Stablean> <bon> how're all of you anyway?
23:40:21  <Stablean> <Slicey> tired :(
23:40:29  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> good, you?
23:40:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, I was about to go
23:41:41  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good  thanks   bon  how  things  bon
23:45:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this would probably work too
23:46:02  <Stablean> <bon> doing ok aside to fixing minor network things
23:46:09  <Stablean> <bon> maybe some new tracks but not sure
23:50:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because it can still see a route
23:53:50  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh.... 9 rv already .. oh well I guess suntburg would have to get absolutely no coastline transport :)
23:54:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
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23:56:31  <Stablean> <bon> probably going to stick to the horses...not really worth an extra 5kph to me

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