Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 6th January 2014:
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00:14:40  <coopserver> <Cameron> meechy
00:14:48  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> cam-e-doodles!
00:14:58  <coopserver> <Cameron> **faceplam
00:15:14  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> lol
00:30:03  <coopserver> <Cameron> 2 million liters, slowly moving it, ugh
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00:49:31  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> re-yo
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01:10:39  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> yoooooooooo
01:10:44  <coopserver> <Woodbutcher> yo
01:10:58  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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01:12:03  <bug_sniper> wonder if anyone is using these meow engines
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01:47:59  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> woooooooooooooo
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02:00:59  <phatmatt> fuuuuuuuuuu
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02:08:42  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> lol
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02:15:35  <coopserver> <phatmatt> TC_X: you have a jam
02:15:47  <coopserver> <phatmatt> in case you're still in irc
02:15:53  <GriffinOneTwo> you who?
02:15:55  <phatmatt> apparently not
02:16:00  <phatmatt> TC_X
02:16:10  <GriffinOneTwo> oh, derp
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02:16:55  <coopserver> <Cameron> yellow's still jammed up
02:17:34  <GriffinOneTwo> did you make him a sign?
02:18:20  <coopserver> <Cameron> now i did
02:18:31  <coopserver> <GriffinOneTwo> IC
02:18:43  <coopserver> <Cameron> but still, you're supposed to check back every now and then
02:18:57  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> I would fix TC's problem but i dont have his p/w
02:19:13  <coopserver> <Cameron> rcon it
02:19:13  <coopserver> <phatmatt> some hacker you are
02:19:16  <coopserver> <Cameron> lol
02:20:03  <coopserver> <GriffinOneTwo> looks like te issue starts just ahead of that at the station
02:20:15  <coopserver> <Maxpm> Crap.
02:20:18  <coopserver> <GriffinOneTwo> oops
02:20:31  <coopserver> <phatmatt> lol i knew it was a crash before i even got the news :D
02:20:37  <coopserver> <Maxpm> Lmao.
02:21:18  <coopserver> <Maxpm> It's, uh, a form of, uh, self-regulating networks!  Yeah, sure, that's it.  The trains that aren't needed just crash and it takes care of itself.  All according to plan.
02:21:22  <coopserver> <phatmatt> lol
02:21:42  <coopserver> <phatmatt> why have overflows when you can just crash 'em
02:34:34  <coopserver> <Anson> I'm just fixing the problem of TC_X, but probably too late since most primaries seem to be gone already
02:35:50  <coopserver> <Anson> if a deadlock is "indirect" (pickup trains block drop trains which are needed to fill pickup trains), a line can be added to provide cargo for the secondary
02:37:01  <coopserver> <Maxpm> Hey Anson, what's the point of overflows for primary industries?  Do they ever produce enough that you'd need enough trains to make an overflow worthwhile?
02:40:31  <coopserver> <Anson> when you build lots of stations near primaries, space can get tight and you don't have enough space to buid enough waiting space
02:40:53  <coopserver> <Maxpm> I see.
02:41:28  <coopserver> <Anson> on large networks and in the late game with production of 2000+, you easily have 20+ trains, sometimes even 50+ at one primary ...
02:43:46  <coopserver> <GriffinOneTwo> oops
02:46:34  <coopserver> <Maxpm> A while ago, you mentioned that if an overflow depot is visible to pathfinding, other measures should be taken.  What did you mean by that?
02:48:13  <coopserver> <Anson> when depots are visible, the pathfinder can send trains there, eg when it wants to autoreplace, and thus the trains get stuck in bad sidelines etc
02:48:41  <coopserver> <Maxpm> Right.  So what's the solution to dhat, other than putting depots behind reversers?
02:48:46  <coopserver> <Maxpm> to that*
02:48:49  <coopserver> <Anson> to avoid that, you can hide all depots on sidelines behind a reverser or terminus station
02:49:06  <coopserver> <Anson> then trains will find tzhem only when they go there anyway, and not from the mainline
02:49:46  <coopserver> <Anson> trains also won't go to random depots if their orders include at least one order to "goto depot" or "maintain at depot"
02:50:01  <coopserver> <Maxpm> Aha.
02:50:27  <coopserver> <Maxpm> I have an explicit "maintain at depot" for all my routes.  Does that mean I'm safe not using reversers?
02:50:48  <coopserver> <Anson> you should be ...
02:51:17  <coopserver> <Maxpm> Oh dear.
02:51:52  <coopserver> <Anson> trains still can go to "bad" depots when rebuilding lines, but quite unlikely
02:52:52  <coopserver> <Anson> it also depends on whether you use a specific depot, or the general nearest depot
02:53:01  <coopserver> <Maxpm> I use a specific one.
02:53:38  <coopserver> <Anson> advantage of "nearest": you can move the depot and don't have to adjust orders for the new depot
02:54:02  <coopserver> <Maxpm> True.
02:54:19  <coopserver> <Anson> disadvantage: the wrong depot can be taken when rebuilding something while a train looks for a depot ...
02:57:43  <coopserver> <Anson> detail about finding a "nearest depot" which i found after quite a few tests:
02:58:20  <coopserver> <Anson> trains search forward for a depot, across the entire visible net
02:59:00  <coopserver> <Anson> only if they don't find any (none there or all invisible) does the pathfinder start looking backwards too
02:59:50  <coopserver> <Maxpm> That's annoying.
03:00:10  <coopserver> <Anson> if a depot is known (either by finding one on this search, or by gibving a specific depot instead of "nearest") the pathfinder will find a path to it, even when it has to turn around to go there
03:00:41  <coopserver> <Anson> that is the other small disadvantage of "nearest" ...
03:02:42  <coopserver> <Anson> look at sign "simple overflow" : i had to put depots behind the station since i can't always be sure that there are no visible depots on the net, and the trains won't turn around to go to the next depot at the entrance
03:07:08  <coopserver> <Anson> just tested : when using that specific depot instead of nearest, trains turn around and find a way right through all the 2way signals to the depot .... (let's ignore possible lockups and similar with such compley signaling)
03:25:52  <coopserver> <Cameron> still dead for yellow
03:31:45  <coopserver> <Anson> yes, most industries were already dead when i built the aux line
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03:45:41  <phatmatt> AnsonMobile: can i pm you my company pw just in case of a jam? i have a cold and need to go sleep or something
03:46:31  <GriffinOneTwo> people sometimes put theirt PW at their headquarters on a sig
03:46:36  <GriffinOneTwo> err sign
03:47:07  <phatmatt> well, i've pm'd it anyway. i shouldn't be too long... and i don't care that much anyway :)
03:47:18  <coopserver> <Cameron> or you can build a network that doesn't do much and not have to worry about it :-)
03:47:43  <coopserver> <GriffinOneTwo> that too
03:48:09  <phatmatt> :D
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06:33:44  <coopserver> <GriffinOneTwo> So, wood appear to be broken huh
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10:52:37  <coopserver> <Cameron> dafuq
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12:07:53  <V453000> !date
12:07:53  <coopserver> Feb 14 2101
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19:00:12  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> lets get a new map here so i can play =S
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19:29:12  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> yoooooooooooo
19:31:08  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> you just have that one island ?
19:31:11  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> Cam ? :)
19:31:18  <coopserver> <Cameron> who? me?
19:31:21  <coopserver> <Cameron> yh
19:31:22  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> yra
19:31:32  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> cool
19:31:39  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> would you mind if i wanted to join up in a bit?
19:31:52  <coopserver> <Cameron> sure
19:32:04  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> cool, ill brb
19:40:55  <V453000> yoyoyoyo
19:41:09  <coopserver> <Cameron> yo
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19:41:53  <coopserver> <Cameron> Doom doesn't look the same in buy menu, then out in the world
19:42:01  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah
19:42:08  <coopserver> <Cameron> bug?
19:42:08  <coopserver> <V453000> there is actually a new version since yesterday
19:42:15  <coopserver> <V453000> no, just unfinished parts
19:42:19  <coopserver> <Cameron> lol
19:42:22  <coopserver> <V453000> meow also doesnt have tenders properly :)
19:42:38  <coopserver> <V453000> I needed to publish the last release asap, so it just went in somewhat sane state
19:43:32  <coopserver> <V453000> I can reset the game with a new version at any point now I think if you like
19:43:42  <coopserver> <Cameron> sure, meech wanted a new map too
19:44:04  <coopserver> <V453000> well if meech did, then we must not reset ever again!
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19:44:22  <coopserver> <Cameron> lol, god damnit meech...
19:44:26  <V453000> (:
19:44:30  <V453000> letz do mars?
19:44:36  <coopserver> <Cameron> ok
19:44:50  <coopserver> <Cameron> i haave to redownload it tho
19:45:15  <V453000> gogo :) our grf pack contains it
19:45:32  <coopserver> <Cameron> that, I have to download anyway
19:45:38  <V453000> youd better
19:45:48  <coopserver> <Cameron> lol
19:47:42  <coopserver> <Cameron> it goes it docs folder on c driver for win 7 right?
19:48:08  <V453000> yez
19:48:13  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> yo!
19:48:19  <V453000> in /newgrf I believe
19:48:21  <V453000> hy meech
19:48:29  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> yoyo!
19:48:32  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> Mars?! :D
19:48:38  <V453000> fuck yo
19:48:40  <V453000> mars indeed
19:48:45  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> fuck yoyo
19:48:52  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> !slap
19:48:54  <coopserver> <Cameron> yolo :P
19:49:06  <V453000> now I need to rediscover how to make soap get newgrfs from bananas
19:49:19  <coopserver> <Cameron> :P
19:49:24  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> at least the noobs with no grf pack wont be able to play :P
19:49:34  <coopserver> <Cameron> lawl
19:50:03  <V453000> !contentupdate
19:50:03  <coopserver> V453000: Performing content update
19:50:04  <coopserver> Content server connection established
19:50:09  <V453000> !content
19:50:10  <coopserver> Downloading 7 file(s) (4810419 bytes)
19:50:52  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> can i join for a few mins anyhoo? xD
19:51:09  <coopserver> Content server connection closed
19:52:26  <V453000> probably wont last for the few minutes
19:52:27  <V453000> haha
19:52:35  <V453000> !Rescam
19:52:40  <V453000> !rescan
19:52:40  <coopserver> V453000: Scanning content directories
19:53:00  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> O_o
19:53:00  <coopserver> <Cameron> lol
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19:53:03  <coopserver> V453000: Rescan completed
19:53:08  <V453000> !getsave
19:53:08  <coopserver> Starting download...
19:53:10  <V453000> I iz evul
19:53:11  <coopserver> Savegame successfully downloaded
19:53:16  <V453000> well, shall we try?
19:53:21  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> sure
19:53:22  <V453000> !rcon ls
19:53:25  <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory)
19:53:26  <coopserver> 1) StableNUTS99.sav
19:53:27  <coopserver> 2) JStable040114.sav
19:53:28  <coopserver> 3) Happy%20New%20Year.sav
19:53:29  <coopserver> 4) skyeMap27-12-2013_1.sav
19:53:30  <coopserver> V453000: You have 18 more messages. Type !less to view them
19:53:32  <V453000> !rcon load 1
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19:53:35  <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Welcome Server ( (Version 1.4.0-beta1)
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19:53:57  <coopserver> <V453000> l000ks solid to m3
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19:54:17  <V453000> !auto
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19:55:09  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> its red
19:55:11  <coopserver> <V453000> apocalypse upon us
19:55:16  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> noo nuts?
19:55:19  <coopserver> <V453000> there is?
19:55:32  <coopserver> <V453000> meech there are SIX newGRFs
19:55:34  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> idk, it made me download it
19:55:38  <coopserver> <V453000> how do you manage to miss it :D
19:55:43  <coopserver> <V453000> oh you mean new
19:55:43  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> idk
19:55:45  <coopserver> <V453000> fuck y ou :D
19:55:50  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> FUCK EWE! :P
19:55:53  <coopserver> <V453000> :D
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19:56:14  <coopserver> <V453000> PS the meow steamers arent 100% bugfree visually, but they work perfectly
19:56:21  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> meow steamer?
19:56:27  <coopserver> <V453000> (the purchase menu sprites are slightly off atm, but its fine)
19:56:31  <coopserver> <V453000> you dont know about meow class or wat
19:56:32  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> could you say them cats is hot?
19:56:45  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> no, i remember you have meow monorail
19:57:00  <coopserver> <V453000> there was steamers on rail as meow at the asme time too :d
19:57:10  <coopserver> <V453000> IMO even more awesome than monorail but yeah
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19:58:27  <coopserver> <V453000> first one comes in 1929 I thinkz
19:58:31  <coopserver> <V453000> 1 engine per train
20:02:25  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> how are you V ?
20:02:44  <coopserver> <V453000> fuck yeah
20:02:53  <coopserver> <V453000> busy as shitnuts but other than that perfect
20:02:54  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> lol nice
20:03:42  <coopserver> <V453000> anyway, this version of nuts is one of the last :)
20:04:19  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> or so yo usay :D
20:04:26  <coopserver> <V453000> so far :)
20:20:01  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> how is your wimmenz, V ?
20:20:09  <coopserver> <Cameron> ?
20:20:17  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> femailz
20:20:27  <coopserver> <Cameron> aka wife?
20:20:34  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> aka  VAgina
20:20:40  <coopserver> <Cameron> >.>
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20:28:32  <V453000> great actually
20:28:38  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> good
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20:31:12  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> yo!
20:31:38  <coopserver> <V453000> I just focus all my time on her, or work in order to get some solid income for eventual family
20:31:52  <coopserver> <V453000> whiiich is great too
20:32:11  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> such a waste :P
20:32:22  <coopserver> <Cameron> im still single :(
20:32:22  <coopserver> <V453000> :)
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20:37:23  <coopserver> <Josta> hello!
20:37:32  <coopserver> <Josta> mars is better but the water still sucks...
20:37:32  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> yo
20:37:34  <coopserver> <Cameron> ello
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20:38:10  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> lol
20:38:12  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> funny guy
20:38:34  <coopserver> <Cameron> :-)
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21:07:23  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> yo
21:07:32  <coopserver> <Djanxy> yo meech
21:07:45  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> join up if you want
21:08:00  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> planning a bubbles and cola drop
21:08:07  <coopserver> <Djanxy> i'm gone again in 5, but thanks
21:08:11  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> sure
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21:18:49  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> yo
21:18:52  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi
21:19:58  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> nice net  werk  big  meech
21:20:17  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> ty
21:21:04  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> sure
21:21:59  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> eney  way  have  fun
21:22:03  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> thanks!
21:22:09  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> you goin?
21:22:50  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> ah
21:23:09  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> and  i ca  not stop  woching  it
21:23:15  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> lol
21:23:17  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> have fun
21:23:53  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> latst night  i  stay  up in till  4  o  clok  in the moring
21:24:06  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> gotta catch them all
21:25:20  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> bb all
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21:47:22  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> yo
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22:05:21  <coopserver> <Woodbutcher> yo
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22:09:57  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> late-yo
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22:56:13  <phatmatt>  they encounter that
22:57:54  <phatmatt> oops.
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23:19:31  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> encounter what? :)
23:19:36  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> join up phatmatt
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23:30:27  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> re-yo
23:30:47  <coopserver> <Cameron> lol
23:30:56  <coopserver> <Cameron> so tired right now
23:31:00  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> bed :)
23:31:39  <coopserver> <Cameron> then i don't sleep tonight
23:34:26  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> what time is there now?
23:34:50  <coopserver> <Cameron> 4:34pm
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23:35:03  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> where are you from again? Nz?
23:35:08  <coopserver> <Cameron> Canada
23:35:18  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> Oh LMAO
23:35:24  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> I should have known that
23:35:29  <coopserver> <Yugi_D> hello
23:35:37  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> jsut go take a nap
23:35:38  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> hi
23:36:21  <coopserver> <Cameron> i did already :3
23:36:31  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> I slept 16 hours last night xD
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23:39:00  <coopserver> <Cameron> got 3 last night
23:39:22  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> yuck
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23:46:52  <coopserver> <BiG MeeCh> yo
23:46:58  <coopserver> <JoeSchmoe> yoyo
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