Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 18th July 2014:
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00:05:18  <coopserver> <Cameron> ello
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06:28:25  <coopserver> <chester> hi v
06:28:26  <coopserver> <V453000> hy
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06:31:02  <coopserver> <chester> i see meow locos are worse in each stat
06:31:13  <coopserver> <chester> why use them
06:31:15  <coopserver> <V453000> logically they have to yes
06:31:19  <coopserver> <V453000> tracks give them bonus?
06:31:41  <coopserver> <chester> even with bonus can catch
06:31:45  <coopserver> <chester> cant
06:32:04  <coopserver> <V453000> exactly, so you have to use the right colour of tracks in the right spots on your networks
06:32:07  <coopserver> <V453000> not just one
06:32:13  <coopserver> <chester> ah
06:32:14  <coopserver> <V453000> if you used one it would be just like a normal engine
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06:35:00  <coopserver> <V453000> though I admit that the bonus might need to be greater
06:35:05  <coopserver> <V453000> but 30% is quite a lot already
06:35:09  <coopserver> <V453000> I might make it 50%
06:35:32  <coopserver> <chester> yes its lower or as high as for normal locos
06:35:41  <coopserver> <chester> for 1 stat
06:35:52  <coopserver> <chester> other stats remain 30% lower
06:38:19  <coopserver> <V453000> which means it is fine
06:39:41  <coopserver> <chester> how? one can reach the same power using special rail  + meow or using normal locos
06:40:03  <coopserver> <chester> for normal having bonuses for all stats
06:40:07  <coopserver> <chester> not just 1
06:40:19  <coopserver> <V453000> because you can have e.g. same power as strong when accelerating, and same speed as fast when running on a long line
06:40:53  <coopserver> <V453000> the monorail ones are probably a bit extra weak yeah
06:40:55  <coopserver> <chester> why bother with different rails when i can have all 3 for free
06:41:08  <coopserver> <V453000> but medium monorail decreases its tractive effort when it gets longer
06:41:50  <coopserver> <chester> 15 min break, brb
06:41:53  <coopserver> <V453000> which meow are you talking about? in general or a specific one?
06:41:55  <coopserver> <V453000> k
06:47:33  <coopserver> <V453000> if I think something about YETI, then it is definitely that the worker production should be like 10 times less
06:47:42  <coopserver> <Cameron> +1
06:48:15  <coopserver> <Cameron> between 50 and 150 production without food and mats
06:48:19  <coopserver> <V453000> I will leave the bonus as is
06:48:20  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah
06:48:27  <coopserver> <V453000> and make that base value lower
06:48:38  <coopserver> <Cameron> 792 with food
06:48:56  <coopserver> <V453000> it will just matter how much food there is
06:48:57  <coopserver> <Cameron> 603 without
06:49:01  <coopserver> <V453000> a lot of food -> a lot of production
06:49:14  <coopserver> <V453000> amount of food matters now, too
06:49:17  <coopserver> <V453000> the 603 is just stupid though
06:49:25  <coopserver> <Cameron> yup
06:51:57  <coopserver> <V453000> yay
06:57:12  <coopserver> <Cameron> need longer train stations...
06:57:20  <coopserver> <V453000> no why
06:57:31  <coopserver> <Cameron> because :S
06:57:48  <coopserver> <Cameron> bigger trains look cooler
06:58:58  <coopserver> <V453000> NO :D
06:59:11  <coopserver> <V453000> you should use superstrong OR monorail Fast class with them btw :P
06:59:17  <coopserver> <V453000> monorail fast would make a lot of sense on your thing
06:59:36  <V453000> !rcon set station_spread 20
06:59:42  <coopserver> <V453000> station spread at 20
07:02:15  <coopserver> <V453000> yeah might even work with just 1 train
07:02:21  <coopserver> <V453000> one way to find out :P
07:06:00  <coopserver> <Cameron> upgrading to Wut type
07:06:06  <coopserver> <V453000> why that?
07:06:13  <coopserver> <Cameron> idk
07:06:23  <coopserver> <V453000> try 2019
07:06:36  <coopserver> <V453000> 2-4 engines per TL20 will give great result
07:08:29  <coopserver> <V453000> see :)
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07:15:00  <coopserver> <Cameron> 0 for shitty internet >.>
07:15:20  <coopserver> <V453000> :D
07:27:44  <coopserver> <V453000> wtf? :D
07:29:49  <coopserver> <V453000> certainly a good idea is to have workers delivered just locally
07:29:55  <coopserver> <V453000> so you dont flood your whole network with them
07:30:21  <coopserver> <V453000> and have one worker yard you give the supplies
07:30:38  <coopserver> <V453000> while that wont be the best way for long, now it is definitely a good thing :D
07:44:56  <coopserver> <chester> i pay /month for 20mbit, is 0 per year?
07:45:05  <coopserver> <V453000> 13x12?
07:45:08  <coopserver> <Cameron> month, bundled
07:45:32  <coopserver> <V453000> wat
07:45:49  <coopserver> <Cameron> yup, phone, cable, internet
07:46:19  <coopserver> <chester> where is it
07:46:25  <coopserver> <Cameron> Canada
07:47:02  <coopserver> <chester> ah i heard weird things about Canada being monopolized by several companies
07:47:16  <coopserver> <chester> so prices are high
07:47:22  <coopserver> <chester> A
07:47:55  <coopserver> <V453000> I pay  for 10mbit cable internet alone...
07:47:59  <coopserver> <V453000> monthly
07:48:18  <coopserver> <Cameron> 2mb/s up and down
07:48:19  <coopserver> <V453000> another  for phone with unlimited sms/calling and 1.5gb data
07:48:39  <coopserver> <V453000> in czech republic
07:48:46  <coopserver> <V453000> so talk about overexpensive :P"
07:49:03  <coopserver> <chester> i have cheapest
07:49:44  <coopserver> <chester> high quality, low prices. how? competition
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07:50:17  <coopserver> <Cameron> im out
07:50:25  <coopserver> <chester> though its only for moscow, other regions have higher prices
07:50:35  <coopserver> <chester> cu
07:52:10  <coopserver> <chester> i've been abroad once in my lifetime, in chechoslovakia in 1989
07:52:30  <coopserver> <chester> in may, before revolution
07:55:06  <coopserver> <V453000> :)
07:55:15  <coopserver> <V453000> a lot changed since I believe
07:55:43  <coopserver> <chester> i remember pedro chewing gums in every shop, what a dream!
07:55:50  <coopserver> <V453000> :)
07:56:12  <coopserver> <V453000> btw I think there is a bug with the doubled mono medium, I think it has more tractive effort than it should
07:56:25  <coopserver> <V453000> in other words, it is reducing slower than it should
07:56:45  <coopserver> <V453000> max is 1500, min 1000, while it should be max 1500, min 500
07:56:46  <coopserver> <chester> maybe second one doesnt drop te?\
07:56:52  <coopserver> <V453000> it does
07:57:00  <coopserver> <V453000> the value just got a bit changed with the doubled engine
07:57:11  <coopserver> <V453000> and somehow one of the things doesnt apply anymore
07:57:13  <coopserver> <V453000> for reason x
07:58:31  <coopserver> <V453000> actually all of the mono medium have the same TE :)
07:58:34  <coopserver> <V453000> same switch defines it
07:59:05  <coopserver> <chester> hm indeed
07:59:47  <coopserver> <V453000> the code numbers are just wrong for the reduction
07:59:57  <coopserver> <V453000> purchase menu is how it is meant to work
08:00:32  <coopserver> <V453000> except the "loses 31kN per unit" :D should be 60
08:00:46  <coopserver> <V453000> then the amount works
08:02:16  <coopserver> <chester> ah i c, every half should lose 31kN so 62 for both
08:02:57  <coopserver> <V453000> no that is what happens now
08:03:02  <coopserver> <V453000> 1600->600 at 10 tiles
08:03:17  <coopserver> <chester> it stops at 1000kN
08:03:18  <coopserver> <V453000> it should be 1600 -> 400 at 10 tiles
08:03:26  <coopserver> <V453000> yes, it should stop at 400-500 ish
08:03:37  <coopserver> <V453000> the reduction should just be doubled
08:03:40  <coopserver> <V453000> already fixed it :P
08:04:32  <coopserver> <V453000> so yeah that is why you thought it is overpowered in compare to meow
08:04:39  <coopserver> <V453000> cause rail looks quite balanced to me
08:09:28  <coopserver> <V453000> btw doubling them is a major overkill regardless :PP
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08:40:19  <coopserver> <[FR]Syl59> o|
08:41:52  <V453000> hyhy
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13:37:29  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> heeeeello
13:37:47  <coopserver> <chester> hi
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13:47:51  <V453000> by
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14:30:22  <coopserver> <[FR]Syl59> Hi :)
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14:32:30  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> clients
14:32:39  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> welll hellllow
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17:07:27  <coopserver> <V453000> yoyo
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17:07:41  <coopserver> <thepower12> hi
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17:10:47  <V453000> @calc 128*16
17:10:47  <Webster> V453000: 2048
17:10:52  <V453000> @calc 12*16
17:10:52  <Webster> V453000: 192
17:10:55  <V453000> hm
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17:18:44  <coopserver> <Djanxy> YETI SMASH
17:21:24  <coopserver> <V453000> YETI SMASH
17:21:48  <coopserver> <V453000> sup
17:22:07  <coopserver> <Djanxy> not much
17:22:13  <coopserver> <V453000> dafuk
17:22:15  <coopserver> <V453000> yeti up :P
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17:50:42  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> hallo
17:51:04  <coopserver> <V453000> hy
17:51:25  <coopserver> <V453000> aww just wanted to tell you that you can recolour the intercity :P
17:51:38  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> yes?!
17:52:22  <coopserver> <V453000> try :)
17:52:34  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> oh but i think im not using intercity
17:52:36  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> i use local
17:52:42  <coopserver> <V453000> yes you were using it before
17:52:54  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> i switched for faster loading times
17:53:26  <coopserver> <V453000> yes I can see you switched, is why I am telling you I Wanted to tell you, had you kept it :P
17:53:40  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> hahaha.... cool... i'll try next time
17:53:47  <coopserver> <V453000> pfft
17:54:45  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> now im trying to learn how to do double lines
17:54:55  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> and i think i'm failing at it...
17:54:59  <coopserver> <V453000> you just build em :P
17:55:05  <coopserver> <V453000> logic is simple
17:55:08  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> yeah but the junctions
17:55:13  <coopserver> <V453000> let every line join every other
17:55:24  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> easier said than done
17:55:31  <coopserver> <V453000> certainly
17:56:07  <coopserver> <V453000> see above your junction
17:56:18  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> im looking
17:56:33  <coopserver> <V453000> 1. both need to leave
17:57:00  <coopserver> <V453000> 2. both need to be joined
17:57:11  <coopserver> <V453000> that is all there is to it
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17:57:42  <happy> !date
17:57:42  <coopserver> Nov 19 2071
17:57:48  <happy> !players
17:57:49  <coopserver> <V453000> see the point?
17:57:49  <coopserver> happy: There are currently 3 players and 0 spectators, making a total of 3 clients connected
17:57:54  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> looks cool... now i have to do try replicate that with without stopping current traffic... or do a new line entirley and then divert...
17:58:04  <coopserver> <V453000> that is simple
17:58:10  <coopserver> <V453000> just add the line and then make the extra connections
17:58:17  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> i loike your example
17:58:21  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> i like your example
17:59:25  <happy> hi  all
17:59:29  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> hi happy!
17:59:35  <happy> how  things
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18:00:59  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> woo   so  u  thave finsh  the  stuf  of  v
18:01:11  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> yea is super nice
18:01:20  <coopserver> <V453000> :)
18:01:22  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> except or the ducklings...
18:01:52  <coopserver> <V453000> Tsk go draw new sprites :)
18:02:01  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> yo V45x.xx... you left a piece of track on my lands
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18:02:11  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> @ here
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18:02:16  <coopserver> <V453000> :d
18:02:36  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> ver   nice       industry      v
18:02:44  <coopserver> <V453000> thanks
18:02:46  <coopserver> <V453000> will be nicer
18:03:24  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> i  have  to   doo  a  of line  game to no  the stuf
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18:05:09  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> so  v   all  maps  going to have  this  new  stuf now
18:05:20  <coopserver> <V453000> probably not all
18:05:24  <coopserver> <V453000> but most of them for a while now
18:05:33  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> k
18:05:35  <coopserver> <V453000> until people get bored with it :)
18:05:45  <coopserver> <V453000> but since there will probably be new versions often, unlikely :)
18:06:03  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> when did  u  finsh  this new stuf
18:06:13  <coopserver> <V453000> on Sunday evening
18:06:15  <coopserver> <V453000> 5 days ago
18:06:22  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> nice
18:08:57  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> so  u have to  doo  splies  to  all the new  stuf   i  see  now
18:10:31  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> k     have fun   i  be back    for  the nexs  map
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18:13:19  <coopserver> <V453000> sooo
18:13:33  <coopserver> <V453000> I managed to get a grf with full animation of 3X machinery factory
18:13:36  <coopserver> <V453000> 280 MB
18:13:38  <coopserver> <V453000> one industry
18:13:43  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> hahahahahaha
18:13:55  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> i'm doing... got me many empty gigabytes
18:14:12  <coopserver> <Maraxus> is it me or do grain farms have a small graphical glitch?
18:14:29  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> they do
18:14:35  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> when trains pass bt
18:14:37  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> by
18:14:44  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> same with machinery factories
18:14:53  <coopserver> <V453000> hm
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18:15:29  <coopserver> <Maraxus> near left side of building
18:15:44  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> yup
18:17:10  <coopserver> <Maraxus> doesn't happen in zoomed-in-mode
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18:24:19  <coopserver> <Maraxus> in the case of machine factory @gedinhall it might be an opengfx trees problem, where the tress can't decide if they're in the front or the back
18:25:04  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> check out  my wrunford east station
18:25:19  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> see when we get trains loading in the track closest to the factory
18:26:09  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> see now?
18:26:13  <coopserver> <Maraxus> yes
18:31:33  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> murder!
18:31:39  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> that layout is murder!
18:35:37  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> yo v45xxx
18:35:44  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> did u see the glitch i showed maraxus?
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19:20:27  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> hi
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20:43:14  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> hi again
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21:16:11  <coopserver> <Brumi> hello
21:16:17  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> sup brumi
21:16:35  <coopserver> <Brumi> ehh I have some graphics bug
21:16:41  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> we all do
21:16:44  <coopserver> <Brumi> when a 32bpp grf is loaded
21:16:49  <coopserver> <Brumi> toolbar turns black
21:16:53  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> yea
21:16:56  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> WIP
21:17:01  <coopserver> <Brumi> good to know
21:17:09  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> its a nice set though
21:17:47  <coopserver> <Brumi> yeah I'm also interested how it goes
21:18:22  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> '
21:18:33  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> brumi
21:18:51  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> google YETI
21:19:36  <coopserver> <Brumi> yea already read that
21:19:52  <coopserver> <Brumi> saw V posting his WIP pics on irc ^^
21:19:59  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> (:
21:20:16  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> he's gonna animate too
21:20:34  <coopserver> <Brumi> I wonder how big the grf will be
21:20:59  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> hhahahaha he said he had one for 280 Mb
21:21:04  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> only one industry
21:21:06  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> (:
21:21:12  <coopserver> <Brumi> :D
21:21:40  <coopserver> <Brumi> ooh hadn't seen the worker yard yet
21:21:46  <coopserver> <Brumi> last time I saw it was 404
21:21:57  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> luv the new one...
21:22:02  <coopserver> <Brumi> it's funny
21:22:11  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> 'will work for food'
21:22:13  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> hahahaha
21:22:34  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> and if u zoom in its got a pink panther couch
21:23:10  <coopserver> <Brumi> well I never watched the pink panther
21:23:22  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> damn u make me feel old
21:23:29  <coopserver> <Brumi> I'm 24 :P
21:23:36  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> then uve got no excuse
21:23:43  <coopserver> <Brumi> that's the problem
21:24:00  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> shame on u, pink panther is bad ass
21:24:29  <coopserver> <Brumi> I only know the opening theme
21:24:34  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> classic
21:24:46  <coopserver> <Brumi> but I suppose everybody knows the opening theme
21:24:58  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> yea... is ingrained in our dna when we born
21:25:02  <coopserver> <Brumi> :D
21:25:47  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> damn i need to improve my network but wud hav to do so much i just dont wanna start
21:26:13  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> brb
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21:26:25  <coopserver> <Brumi> I would gladly help if I wasn't getting up early tomorrow and didn't have to sleep...
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21:28:40  <coopserver> <Brumi> are workers and building materials going to have a different effect by the way?
21:28:49  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> eventually
21:28:52  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> right now they dont
21:29:00  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> except that the more u deliv the more it produces
21:29:11  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> tho is not even multiplying if u deliv more than one type
21:30:08  <coopserver> <Brumi> production rates are insane :P
21:30:23  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> they are fun u mean?
21:30:25  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> (:
21:30:41  <coopserver> <Brumi> :)
21:30:53  <coopserver> <Brumi> much easier to jam your lines
21:31:05  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> thats why i need to improv my network...
21:32:11  <coopserver> <Brumi> is the iron ore mine a minecraft reference? XD
21:32:25  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> where's one?
21:32:37  <coopserver> <Brumi> west from nendwood
21:32:45  <V453000> it isnt. :)
21:32:53  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> hahahahaha
21:32:57  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> looks like it...
21:33:17  <coopserver> <Brumi> the yetis are playing minecraft in real life down there
21:33:24  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> yo, v45xxx... check out the glitch at Dufingburg Transfer
21:33:55  <V453000> I know what you mean but I am not sure what causes it yet
21:34:25  <coopserver> <Bluefabrik> i dont mind it so much... just wanted to show u
21:36:23  <coopserver> <Brumi> well I gotta sleep
21:36:28  <coopserver> <Brumi> see you next time
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