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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 1st October 2014:
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01:35:28  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi
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01:36:20  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> how  things
01:36:34  <coopserver> <Chlorbenzen> no problemo
01:39:35  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> have  fun  gn
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08:44:22  <Evo> Hello there
08:46:23  <Evo> Anyone able to assist with some Multiplayer connection issues?
08:46:32  <Evo> Specifically connecting to a friends server?
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10:47:42  <coopserver> <Muel> hi
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13:01:02  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi Sm0min
13:01:06  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> how things
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13:42:20  <coopserver> <Sm0min> hi happy
13:47:16  <coopserver> <Sm0min> how would you feel about restarting the game?
13:52:40  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi iTKerry
13:52:51  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> Sm0min:  i can not  doo that
13:53:09  <coopserver> <Sm0min> do you know who can?
13:53:14  <coopserver> <Sm0min> and do you want to?
13:53:15  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> yes
13:53:24  <coopserver> <Sm0min> no much more to do here
13:53:38  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> but   we need sume  won  to doo  a map
13:53:44  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> and up  load it
13:54:11  <coopserver> <Sm0min> what do you guys mean by that? cant you just generate a map?
13:55:03  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> sume  won  as to  make  map  and up  load   it
13:55:25  <coopserver> <Sm0min> and who can do that?
13:55:37  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> eeny won
13:55:44  <coopserver> <Sm0min> and how?
13:55:59  <happy_> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/10/16/creating-maps/
13:56:30  <happy_> look at  that  can   read  it  it  wil  tel l how  to doo  them
13:57:02  <happy_> i    like  it to  make map  but    i can not save  them    i dont not y
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13:57:52  <happy_> server  can  not   make maps   but  up  load  them from   players
13:58:30  <happy_> so  in till  sume won dus a map   we have to wate
13:58:48  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i am looking at the map page
13:58:51  <planetmaker> well, server *could* make maps. But they'd all be the same for every game. MUCH much easier to configure games at home and upload savegame
13:58:53  <coopserver> <Sm0min> see what i can do
13:58:57  <happy_> if  eeny  wom   got a map   up  load   it  by drop box
13:59:10  <planetmaker> hello also :) And I'll be looking forward to nice new maps for this server
13:59:22  <happy_> ver   true  planetmaker
13:59:24  <coopserver> <Sm0min> hello :)
13:59:26  <V453000> happy I do not understand why you cannot create savegames but ok :D
13:59:27  <V453000> hi.
13:59:31  <planetmaker> yeah, just use dropbox or whatever so that it has a nice URL
13:59:38  <planetmaker> haha, V453000 :)
13:59:41  <coopserver> <Sm0min> the blok post will also tell me how to upload
13:59:42  <happy_> i dont no y  v
13:59:42  <coopserver> <Sm0min> ?
13:59:52  <V453000> how can you not know? :D
13:59:57  <V453000> what is the problem?
14:00:02  <coopserver> <Sm0min> ok, i will make a link
14:00:16  <planetmaker> Sm0min: not exactly. But if you use dropbox, just put your savegame there
14:00:26  <coopserver> <Sm0min> ok, will do
14:00:46  <happy_>  is a error     v
14:00:53  <V453000> but what error
14:01:02  <happy_>   save  error
14:01:13  <V453000> ...
14:01:28  <V453000> but what does it say
14:01:32  <happy_>   i try to    unstol  the game
14:01:35  <V453000> if it says hello then it is a nice and polite error
14:01:44  <happy_> heem  i  chek
14:02:08  <coopserver> <Sm0min> so many settings...
14:02:19  <coopserver> <Sm0min> can i somehow just copy the basic settings of this map?
14:04:33  <V453000> idk if there was some saveconfig or something
14:04:36  <V453000> but probably not
14:04:46  <planetmaker> sm0min: there's no easy way really. Load the map and check the adv. settings. Switch to 'expert mode' there. And check for the difference against the default settings
14:05:04  <planetmaker> there are no settings presets (yet)
14:05:35  <happy_> k    it  say  hame  save failed  file not  writeable  v
14:05:54  <V453000> try to save to different place
14:05:58  <happy_> k
14:06:06  <V453000> apparently you dont have rights to write on that disk or something
14:06:34  <happy_>   ar  wate
14:07:41  <happy_> i can  save  it     in   heightmaps
14:10:01  <V453000> well then that isnt optimal but is enough :)
14:10:06  <V453000> from there just move it to dropbox and done
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14:18:05  <happy_> how  doo  u  doo  the tf  for  the wate
14:24:42  <happy_> planetmaker>
14:25:38  <happy_> wher  is  the      settings  is the water  tf    can not  find it
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14:30:10  <V453000> basecosts newGRF
14:30:35  <planetmaker> yeah, basecost grf
14:33:03  <happy_> ar  k thansk
14:34:01  <happy_> k   i got  that  grf
14:34:04  <happy_> thanks
14:34:52  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i hope you can make something happy. To many settings to figure out for me. :/
14:36:03  <happy_> trying
14:36:40  <V453000> the guide actually tells you how to change them and why Sm0min :)
14:36:59  <V453000> it isnt short but you only do it once :P
14:38:05  <happy_> whont the f
14:38:23  <happy_> i  can save it but can not ind it
14:38:33  <happy_> whont the    heemm
14:39:30  <V453000> interesting
14:39:51  <V453000> try documents/openttd/heightmap or which folder you chose
14:45:42  <happy_> heem     its  save  it but   i dont no wher     all i got  is  i dun  from larst  year
14:46:46  <V453000> when you are saving it, you can clearly see the folder
14:48:59  <happy_> its  save   to heightmaps  thats  the place  i can  save  to
14:49:27  <V453000> then it is there...
14:49:58  <happy_> ar  wate
14:50:02  <coopserver> <Sm0min> you could just use windows search...
14:50:07  <happy_> give   a  mite
14:50:27  <V453000> or even that yeah
14:50:31  <happy_> its  k  i got it
14:51:19  <coopserver> <Sm0min> and when oi want tot make my own map, it starts with a problem. the difficulty setting dont seem to be in my game anymore
14:51:55  <happy_> now  got to  remov  the big  towns
14:52:23  <V453000> yeah the settings got changed like a million times Sm0min
14:52:40  <coopserver> <Sm0min> but where are they now?
14:53:15  <V453000> everywhere :D
14:53:23  <V453000> there is a new filter though
14:53:30  <V453000> so searching for them by some keyword usually works
14:53:40  <happy_>  k
14:54:00  <coopserver> <Sm0min> great ^^
14:55:53  <happy_> i think  i am    dun
14:56:08  <happy_> be back   in a minte got a job to doo
14:56:22  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi Paljoz
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14:56:37  <coopserver> <Muel> hi
14:56:39  <happy_> hi  mule
14:57:00  <coopserver> <Muel> how things happy ?
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14:58:32  <happy_> good  muel
14:58:38  <happy_> how  things  muel
14:58:49  <coopserver> <Muel> good
14:59:09  <coopserver> <Muel> u dont know, when ill new game ?
14:59:25  <happy_> k  in  5  mints  i  mite have a  map    its not the  best i  dun
14:59:44  <coopserver> <Muel> ok
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15:01:56  <happy_> i  got  it  all  dun  now  got  to  get  drop  boxs
15:02:13  <coopserver> <Sm0min> nice :)
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15:13:23  <happy_> heem
15:13:59  <coopserver> <Sm0min> did you upload the map?
15:15:16  <happy_> nop   drop boxs     nned  a  email   not shor  if  i  can  have the won  i  got on gmail  or  doo i have  to doo a new wom
15:15:45  <coopserver> <Sm0min> should be easy :)
15:16:24  <happy_> yes    but  its  not my email   is  my and dad and  mum
15:16:36  <happy_> so
15:16:40  <happy_> heem
15:16:49  <coopserver> <Sm0min> so make a new one?
15:17:03  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i could do that for you :P
15:17:18  <happy_> i ma k  thanks
15:17:53  <coopserver> <Sm0min> btw, why dont you write with normal spelling? :)
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15:18:50  <happy_> i  have  problems  whive    write  ans  speling
15:19:06  <happy_> so  its  ver hard  for me  to  tip  ot
15:19:08  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i see :D
15:19:34  <happy_> ther    nufing  i can do a  bout  it
15:20:14  <happy_> v  cna  u  send   a  openttd   map   by  email
15:20:26  <coopserver> <Sm0min> its kinda funny, but sometimes hard to decifer :P
15:20:35  <happy_> yer  i no
15:21:33  <happy_> its    not  fun  for  me  when  i try  to tel sume won sume thin  and i an not tip    good
15:22:04  <coopserver> <Sm0min> that makes sence...
15:22:18  <happy_> v  on  droo boxs    doo  u doo  your  rel name or  your  game nick  name
15:22:21  <happy_> yep
15:23:05  <coopserver> <Sm0min> cant you just pick some random name? like: dhffsgsd
15:23:16  <happy_> so  if   i dont  tip it rite  i am sorry
15:23:25  <coopserver> <Sm0min> its ok
15:23:41  <happy_> yep  i like  to   no a bout   droo boxs  ferst
15:23:46  <coopserver> <Sm0min> my spelling isnt very good eighter
15:23:57  <happy_> lol v make 2 ov us
15:24:31  <happy_> thats  y  i am not  on youtube  or   eeny  thin lie  that
15:24:46  <coopserver> <Sm0min> why not?
15:25:20  <happy_> be  cours  i see  bad  things a  bout  them
15:25:49  <coopserver> <Sm0min> about who?
15:25:55  <happy_> when  ther woch a vidoe from  a   name  how ddi  it  sume times  i see bad  things
15:26:24  <happy_> so    i  like to keep  my slef  to my slef
15:26:26  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i dont understand you, sry
15:26:36  <happy_> its  k
15:26:50  <coopserver> <Sm0min> you might see bad things on youtube, so you dont go there?
15:27:21  <happy_> yer true
15:27:38  <coopserver> <Sm0min> bad things like what?
15:27:52  <happy_> but   k  if  use a vidoe  a  bout  a  game
15:28:14  <happy_> and u read a bout the things a bout  the    vidoe
15:28:42  <coopserver> <Sm0min> it is easy not to watch what you dont want to see
15:28:55  <coopserver> <Sm0min> and what do you care what you read about?
15:29:04  <happy_> u see  sume times  u see  bad    things  a bout     the    name how ddi the vidoe
15:29:12  <happy_> will  true
15:29:13  <coopserver> <Sm0min> easy to ignore it :)
15:29:22  <happy_> true
15:29:47  <happy_> i  mite  make 2  maps
15:30:07  <coopserver> <Sm0min> cant hurt, if you have the right settings, its easy
15:30:10  <coopserver> <Sm0min> so save them :P
15:30:33  <coopserver> <Sm0min> but it would be nice to start a new map soonish
15:31:30  <happy_> k   i  going to think ov  a email for drop  boxs
15:31:39  <coopserver> <Sm0min> ok
15:32:13  <happy_> doo  u down load  drop  boxs  or  jusr  sin  up to  it
15:32:36  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i never used it, so dont know
15:32:47  <happy_> k
15:32:47  <coopserver> <Sm0min> but i guess you just sighn up
15:32:53  <happy_> i ark    jam35
15:33:02  <happy_> or  eeny  won
15:33:22  <coopserver> <Sm0min> anyone?
15:33:31  <happy_> hi  all    doo u down  load  drop boxds  or just  sin up  to it
15:34:41  <coopserver> <Sm0min> ok, you have to download i guess
15:35:00  <coopserver> <Sm0min> and install it
15:35:41  <happy_> planetmaker
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15:36:13  <coopserver> <Sm0min> what?
15:36:53  <happy_> is  a  nick  name  on irc
15:37:00  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i see
15:38:22  <happy_> join  the  irc   at  this seb sithttp://www.openttdcoop.org/?page=irc
15:39:17  <happy_> and  just  prot  your  name  u doo on the game  and    doo  .stable at  the  bit  wher   is say openttdcoop
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15:40:53  <happy_>  v453000
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15:41:10  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi  Stonka
15:41:38  <coopserver> <Sm0min> noone in there
15:41:43  <coopserver> <Sm0min> many in coop
15:42:14  <happy_> heem   i  wate
15:42:37  <coopserver> <Sm0min> but no need for it now anyway
15:42:45  <coopserver> <Sm0min> just need to get your map to the server :P
15:42:54  <happy_> yer  tryue
15:42:57  <happy_> true
15:43:17  <happy_> dame  it happy    tip  it  rite
15:44:09  <happy_> k  i down load  the droo boxs   and  but  i think  the a  link for the server
15:44:48  <coopserver> <Sm0min> sry, what?
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15:50:47  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> Sm0min:   k     i  am  arsk  jam35   so give me  sume time   k
15:51:30  <planetmaker> what?
15:51:37  <coopserver> <Sm0min> sounds good. i will be patient :P
15:52:17  <coopserver> <Sm0min> happy should have a new map
15:57:41  <planetmaker> then use !getsave URL for download
15:57:47  <planetmaker> !getsave
15:57:47  <coopserver> planetmaker: (getsave [Server ID or channel] <Http Url of savegame>) -- Downloads a savegame file over HTTP and saves it in the saves dir of the [specified] server
15:58:01  <planetmaker> !rcon pwd
15:58:02  <coopserver> /home/openttd/svn-stable/server/save/uploads/
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16:14:32  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> Sm0min:    i  sin  up  to drop boxs so that thar bit dun
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17:07:10  <coopserver> <Sm0min> welcome back :)
17:08:03  <happy_> thanks
17:08:20  <happy_> not  ther yet  doing  the tf for water  and land
17:08:41  <coopserver> <Sm0min> need to find the right settings?
17:28:36  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> yer  jam  is  help me out
17:37:47  <coopserver> <Sm0min> what? :)
17:38:32  <happy_> jam 35  is help to doo the  grf rite
17:39:16  <coopserver> <Sm0min> you can just save the settings from this game
17:39:29  <coopserver> <Sm0min> or are they no good?
17:40:01  <happy_> heem    not try that
17:40:49  <coopserver> <Sm0min> you should try it :P
17:42:35  <Sylf> there are many settings that are associated with the save game that don't get back copied to clients automatically
17:43:22  <coopserver> <Sm0min> but you can look at the settings and save them?
17:43:34  <happy_> i  have  try  to change   the openttd.cfg that says: scenario_developer = false  to  true
17:43:53  <happy_> but  stil can not  change  the    grf
17:44:00  <happy_> bit  i neeed  to doo
17:46:41  <Sylf> that bit is best not used
17:46:49  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> its the   base  cost  mod  5.0      the    parameters  sylf
17:47:05  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> that  bit  can ot  change  in my  save map
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17:47:22  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> ar  i see
17:47:33  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> diner  time
17:47:47  <Sylf> Just save the new grf preset in an active game
17:48:09  <Sylf> then exit out of the map to openttd title screen, and edit the newgrf settings there
17:48:25  <Sylf> that's the proper way of doing it
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18:06:34  <happy_> k
18:06:38  <coopserver> <Chlorbenzen> hello when will be new map ?
18:06:45  <happy_> soon
18:07:04  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> i  got the map  dun
18:07:09  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> but doing the grf
18:07:39  <happy_> but  Sylf  i can not save that on my  map i dun
18:08:16  <Sylf> right.  You must pick the newgrf before you start making new maps
18:08:26  <happy_> ar   i see
18:08:41  <happy_> i  will redo the map
18:09:07  <happy_> i  did but i for got to doo the water  tf      so
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18:25:05  <happy_> sylf  ar  u  ther
18:26:52  <happy_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/floqofzt8c2hble/happy%20map.sav?dl=0
18:26:53  <Webster> Title: Dropbox - happy map.sav (at www.dropbox.com)
18:27:37  <coopserver> <Sm0min> shouldnt you make some foum post somewhere?
18:27:53  <happy_> not  shor
18:28:46  <Sylf> happy, do not use bk tunnels in the future
18:29:00  <Sylf> we'll be fine for this time around
18:29:55  <happy_> ar  i for got      sorry
18:30:10  <happy_> can i remov that grf
18:31:27  <happy_> is  the map k  Sylf
18:31:44  <happy_> i  can  make a new won
18:31:46  <Sylf> I'm still checking the rest of the map
18:31:54  <happy_> k
18:34:46  <happy_> i  din   the  sign    as  u  doo  when  u  load  the  server  on all maps  Sylf
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18:39:28  <Sylf> From the openttd title screen, open advanced settings, and change these settings:
18:39:31  <Sylf> Construction -> Maximum bridge length: something shorter than 20
18:39:34  <Sylf> Vehicles -> Routing -> Forbid trains and ships from making 90 degree turns: On
18:39:37  <Sylf> Maximum road vehicles per company -> something less than 5000
18:39:39  <Sylf> Economy -> Towns -> Road layout for new towns -> Random
18:39:42  <Sylf> Economy -> Towns -> Towns are allowed to build roads: Off
18:39:44  <Sylf> Economy -> Towns -> Town growth speed: Normal or slower
18:39:47  <Sylf> Economy -> Inflation: make sure this was intentional
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18:43:20  <Sylf> !contentupdate
18:43:20  <coopserver> Sylf: Performing content update
18:43:21  <coopserver> Content server connection established
18:43:40  <Sylf> !rcon pwd
18:43:41  <coopserver> /home/openttd/svn-stable/server/save/uploads/
18:44:29  <coopserver> Content server connection closed
18:44:32  <Sylf> !content
18:44:33  <coopserver> Downloading 5 file(s) (1835777 bytes)
18:48:25  <Sylf> !rescan
18:48:25  <coopserver> Sylf: Scanning content directories
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18:49:19  <coopserver> Sylf: Rescan completed
18:49:29  <Sylf> !rcon load 1
18:49:30  <coopserver> Starting new game
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18:49:33  <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version 1.4.3)
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18:52:06  <coopserver> <Dnz-Ali> hi
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18:52:29  <coopserver> <Sm0min> this aint npo YETI game ^^
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18:56:18  <Sylf> !setdef
18:56:19  <coopserver> Sylf: Setting default settings: set ai_in_multiplayer 0, set extra_dynamite 1, set forbid_90_deg 1, set mod_road_rebuild 1, set order.no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns 1, set path_backoff_interval 1, set train_acceleration_model 1, set vehicle_breakdowns 0, set wait_for_pbs_path 255, set wait_oneway_signal 255, set wait_twoway_signal 255, and set yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol 1
18:56:20  <Sylf> !auto
18:57:38  <coopserver> <o11c> um, trains are ridiculously cheap?
18:57:53  <Sylf> is that bad?
18:58:03  <coopserver> <o11c> it's quite unusual
18:58:25  <Sylf> I didn't check the base price mod parameters
18:58:28  <coopserver> <Sm0min> isnt it possible to do another YETI map?
18:58:49  <Sylf> It's possible, but happy chose to use another industry set
18:59:12  <coopserver> <o11c> ugh, I forgot how you can't build on half tiles
18:59:47  <coopserver> <Sm0min> guess, i will have another look at mapcreation...
19:01:19  <Sylf> we just don't like super flat maps.  That's about the only thing you need to know
19:02:30  <coopserver> <Sm0min> same here, i liked the last one :)
19:02:41  <Sylf> Even the base cost mod settings are up to the map creator.  Or inflation and its level, train set, water level, rivers...
19:02:58  <coopserver> <Sm0min> how do i set the extremely high construction cost for changing the land?
19:03:19  <Sylf> Load Base Cost Mod newgrf, and change the parameters within
19:04:03  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i will have a look at it i a bit
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19:05:03  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> sylf   if  eeny  thin     need  to change     then  i will try to doo that
19:05:12  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> or   u have to doo it
19:05:13  <Sylf> and you can even load some old newgrfs too, like 0.0.1 version of nuts
19:05:30  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> ar
19:05:42  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> i can  change  that
19:05:47  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> if u like
19:05:49  <Sylf> no
19:06:01  <Sylf> The only thing I have for you, happy, are...
19:06:40  <Sylf> From the openttd title, screen, (and not from within this map), go to advanced settings, and change these:
19:06:46  <Sylf> Construction -> Maximum bridge length: something shorter than 20
19:06:46  <Sylf> Vehicles -> Routing -> Forbid trains and ships from making 90 degree turns: On
19:06:49  <Sylf> Maximum road vehicles per company -> something less than 5000
19:06:51  <Sylf> Economy -> Towns -> Road layout for new towns -> Random
19:06:54  <Sylf> Economy -> Towns -> Towns are allowed to build roads: Off
19:06:56  <Sylf> Economy -> Towns -> Town growth speed: Normal or slower
19:06:59  <Sylf> Economy -> Inflation: make sure this was intentional
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19:08:13  <happy_> i  for  i did  the   bridge length  to  7
19:08:31  <coopserver> *** happy tran  sport has started a new company #3
19:08:42  <Sylf> this map orginally had it set to 64
19:08:57  <coopserver> <o11c> remember it's a per-save setting
19:08:58  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> heem
19:09:27  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> k     doo whont me to doo a  naver  map  sylf
19:09:46  <Sylf> no
19:10:07  <Sylf> Just make those changes now, so you don't have to do it when you make another map in the future
19:10:28  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> but  the train   cost  is ver chep
19:10:33  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> heem
19:11:02  <Sylf> Also, make sure that the limit of max train length (7) was intentional
19:11:18  <happy_> k
19:12:14  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> heem    i  think  i did the  cost  rone
19:13:10  <happy_> syl id i  send u  the   map  can u    change  the  cost and the stuf i did rone
19:14:13  <Sylf> up to you
19:14:25  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> yer  u  word be beter
19:14:34  <Sylf> it looks like everything is ridiculously cheap, but nothing wrong with that
19:15:23  <happy_> i  like  to  get  it rite
19:15:31  <Sylf> k
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19:15:51  <Sylf> also, this map has no trees
19:16:15  <happy_> ar
19:17:56  <happy_> thsat
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19:18:17  <happy_> that  shord  be  the  rite  won  sylf
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19:18:50  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> soory  all  a bout  the  cost  for the trains  and stuf
19:18:59  <coopserver> <Player> !name Dunaj
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19:19:24  <happy_> have  u got  it   sylf
19:19:26  <Sylf> this map still has everything dirt cheap
19:19:46  <happy_> yes  but  u  shord  can change  the stuf
19:20:21  <Sylf> It's a bad practice anything around newgrf once map or scenario is created
19:20:35  <Sylf> Anything newgrf should be set in stone before starting a map or a scenario
19:20:50  <happy_> heem
19:20:51  <Sylf> I'll change it this once
19:20:52  <happy_> k
19:21:08  <Sylf> but please create a correct version of newgrf preset
19:21:28  <coopserver> <o11c> ugh, can't lower land into water either
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19:21:59  <happy_> yes  soory
19:22:06  <coopserver> <Sm0min> thats a good thing
19:22:20  <happy_> its my  ferst  time  have  dun  a map  so
19:22:22  <coopserver> <Sm0min> landscaping should be expensive
19:22:34  <coopserver> <o11c> not when you're trying to build bridges where I am
19:22:47  <coopserver> <Sm0min> thats the only drawback
19:22:48  <coopserver> <o11c> since bridges from the diagonal water square are expensive
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19:22:55  <Sylf> no
19:23:00  <Sylf> landscaping is cheap.
19:23:08  <coopserver> <o11c> not water landscaping
19:23:09  <coopserver> *** Dunaj has started a new company #5
19:23:19  <Sylf> water is cheap too compared to any other maps here
19:23:48  <happy_> heem  k   i  for  got  a  lot ov    settings
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19:24:18  <Sylf> but more importantly, this map's getting refreshed in a few minutes
19:24:32  <happy_> k
19:24:34  <happy_> thanks
19:34:25  <Sylf> !rcon load 1
19:34:26  <coopserver> Starting new game
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19:34:31  <Sylf> !setdef
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19:34:33  <Sylf> !auto
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19:34:37  <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1
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19:34:38  <coopserver> Sylf: Setting default settings: set ai_in_multiplayer 0, set extra_dynamite 1, set forbid_90_deg 1, set mod_road_rebuild 1, set order.no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns 1, set path_backoff_interval 1, set train_acceleration_model 1, set vehicle_breakdowns 0, set wait_for_pbs_path 255, set wait_oneway_signal 255, set wait_twoway_signal 255, and set yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol 1
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19:34:59  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> thanks  sylf
19:35:04  <Sylf> yw
19:35:18  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> i  doo  the  things u say  but  can not find  won
19:35:41  <happy_> Vehicles -> Routing   wher is that
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19:36:43  <Sylf> Routing is the first group under Vehicles
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19:38:40  <coopserver> <F3nr1r> !rules
19:38:41  <coopserver> Server rules can be found here: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart/Stable
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19:46:21  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> whont to be a team  Maraxus
19:47:06  <coopserver> <Maraxus> no thanks - leaving soon
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19:53:50  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i made a new map, think setting should be ok
19:53:53  <coopserver> <Sm0min> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ca50a9schve8wj5/Sm0min%27s%20map.sav?dl=0
19:53:54  <Webster> Title: Dropbox - Sm0min's map.sav (at www.dropbox.com)
19:57:32  <Sylf> Sm0min, take BK tunnels out of your new grf roster
19:57:53  <coopserver> <Sm0min> will do, anything else i should change?
19:58:05  <Sylf> still checking
19:59:50  <Sylf> I like to see Roay layout for towns set to Random
19:59:56  <Sylf> grid is boring
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20:00:33  <coopserver> <Sm0min> ok, i can do that
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20:00:49  <Sylf> Vehicles: Routing: Forbit trains and ships from 90 deg tern: On
20:00:58  <Sylf> Maximum bridge length: check
20:02:02  <coopserver> *** Comito has left the game (Leaving)
20:02:03  <Sylf> also, in a cargo centric game like YETI, load Japanese stations after the cargo stations like CHIPS and ISR
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20:03:10  <Sylf> If you load town name GRF like Icelandic town names in this map, make sure to set that in the game options too.
20:03:18  <coopserver> <Sm0min> what max bridge length do you owant?
20:03:25  <Sylf> Or, if you don't want icelandic name, unload that newgrf
20:03:29  <coopserver> <Sm0min> amnd what do you mean with the stations?
20:03:34  <coopserver> <Sm0min> where do i change that?
20:03:50  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i dont really care about the names
20:03:51  <Sylf> you can't change it in the map that's already created
20:04:00  <Sylf> then please unload the unused newgrf
20:04:02  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i will make a new one
20:04:07  <coopserver> <Sm0min> with improved settings
20:04:14  <coopserver> <Sm0min> should only take a minute
20:04:40  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i dont know which those are. i just copied everything from the last game
20:04:41  <Sylf> when you make new ones, before you get started, open the newgrf settings window, and you can reorder the active newgrf files
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20:05:43  <coopserver> <Niko> hi
20:05:49  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi
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20:10:11  <coopserver> <Sm0min> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hd14w83xdu9249y/Sm0min%27s%20map%20v2.sav?dl=0
20:10:13  <Webster> Title: Dropbox - Sm0min's map v2.sav (at www.dropbox.com)
20:10:21  <coopserver> <Sm0min> the improved version
20:12:39  <coopserver> <o11c> dammit, how short were bridges changed to be?
20:12:56  <coopserver> <o11c> only 7 tiles :(
20:14:12  <coopserver> <Sm0min> Sylf, you there?
20:17:12  <happy_> yep
20:17:30  <happy_> we doo  bridges  7tiles
20:23:00  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> nice       got  106   nice
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20:27:07  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> not  playing  Sm0min#
20:27:27  <coopserver> <Sm0min> still hoping for a better map
20:27:32  <coopserver> <Sm0min> or better settings i guess
20:27:37  <coopserver> <Sm0min> this is to easy :P
20:28:04  <coopserver> <o11c> even with the costs fixed?
20:28:08  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> will  arsk  sylf  to  up load your map   then my woni dont   mind]
20:28:11  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> mind]
20:28:38  <coopserver> <Sm0min> it should be ok now, and i very much like the YETIs :)
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20:29:56  <coopserver> Player: Please change your name before joining/starting a company. Use '!name <new name>' to do so.
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20:30:02  <coopserver> <Player> !name Splike
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20:30:14  <coopserver> <o11c> yay, people who can read and follow directions!
20:31:27  <Sylf> Sm0min, now I am
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20:32:14  <happy_> sylf      u  like       Sm0min  map   restart  the server     i dont mind
20:32:27  <coopserver> <o11c> there are people actually playing now though
20:32:34  <Sylf> no
20:32:36  <coopserver> <o11c> and this map isn't terrible
20:32:40  <Sylf> I don't want to restart another time
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20:34:08  <o11c> welp, I made a Free for All company and got it profitable
20:34:37  <o11c> probably need to upgrade the coal drop soon though
20:34:53  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> i  can doo  that if u like
20:36:56  <coopserver> <Sm0min> you know when you will want to restart?
20:37:14  <Sylf> no
20:37:25  <coopserver> <Sm0min> ^^
20:37:26  <coopserver> <Sm0min> ok
20:37:29  <coopserver> <Sm0min> is the map ok?>
20:37:32  <Sylf> it might be after next version of YETI is available
20:37:35  <Sylf> yeah, map's fie
20:37:36  <Sylf> fine*
20:38:51  <coopserver> <Sm0min> when will next version be availible?
20:39:12  <Sylf> I don't know
20:39:56  <coopserver> <Sm0min> ok, guess i ll see...
20:44:26  <Sylf> hmm
20:44:38  <Sylf> for somereason, your v2 still shows allowed bridge length of 64
20:45:07  <Sylf> oh well, it doesn't matter too much on a map with 1 giant continent
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20:47:11  <coopserver> <Sm0min> dunno why i keep disconnecting... :(
20:47:58  <coopserver> <Sm0min> but could you not do one more restart if noone else minds?
20:49:38  <Sylf> I can, but don't want to
20:50:07  <coopserver> <Sm0min> ofc, but why not? should produce much better networks
20:50:12  <coopserver> <Sm0min> not just coal transport...
20:50:58  <Sylf> YETI only generates certain style of networks
20:51:21  <Sylf> original industries are awesome.
20:51:39  <coopserver> <Sm0min> they are very basic, very littly interconnection
20:51:39  <Sylf> other than the fact that they can sometimes produce way too much
20:52:08  <coopserver> <Sm0min> and goods only moving one way, not two way connections
20:52:09  <Sylf> You're the only restriction how intricate you want to make your network
20:52:34  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i mean the production chain
20:52:43  <Sylf> same diff
20:53:00  <coopserver> <Sm0min> if you say so :)
20:53:15  <Sylf> if you want that kind of intricacy, go play FIRS
20:53:36  <Sylf> or complexity
20:53:36  <coopserver> <Sm0min> whats that?
20:53:49  <Sylf> another industry set
20:54:20  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i might in a while, but i liked the YETI one becouse its not to complex
20:54:32  <Sylf> On coop's public server, we play the original industries the most
20:54:38  <coopserver> <Sm0min> but there are still a buch of connections between goods
20:55:02  <Sylf> yeti balancing will be changing very soon
20:55:09  <Sylf> no need to polish your skill at this point
20:55:12  <coopserver> <Sm0min> and you have more servers? this is the only one i ve seen
20:55:26  <Sylf> or if you insist, there always is the offline option
20:55:37  <Sylf> This is the uncared server
20:55:54  <o11c> I just hopy yeti gets better about killing industries while I'm connecting to them
20:56:50  <coopserver> <Sm0min> i created a singele player game, but like to watch other networks too, and the way you left the game running for 250+ years
20:57:59  <Sylf> gtg
20:58:11  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> k
20:58:25  <coopserver> <Sm0min> bb
21:04:10  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> Sm0min:  can i have a look at your map
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22:20:59  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi  Mazth
22:21:02  <coopserver> <Mazth> yeti smashy!
22:21:11  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> yer  soory
22:21:35  <coopserver> <Mazth> tran kjoe at the oildrop/pickup
22:22:03  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport>   this is  my  ferst  map  so
22:22:16  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> but  its not the best i dun
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22:22:30  <coopserver> <Mazth> cool! way to go
22:22:42  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> if i  u got a beter  won  then go for it
22:22:50  <coopserver> <Mazth> that LLRR preplanning ^^
22:23:04  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> yeo
22:23:07  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:23:21  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> join  if u  like
22:24:19  <coopserver> <Mazth> quite a bit water but the map is big so I think it will work to keep everyone in their own space a bit
22:24:25  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> i wil  get beter on the map   just to  no  the  rite  setting
22:24:47  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> yer
22:24:52  <coopserver> <Mazth> oh and I cannot do better at the moment...I looked into it a long long time ago, forgot most of it and don t have the settings anymore
22:25:14  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> lol  k
22:25:22  <coopserver> <Mazth> once you get the setttings right it gets easier to make the maps
22:25:31  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> yer  true
22:26:22  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> just  got to get the  water tf  and the train  cost  rite  and town  settings   and  train  settings  then i shord be  k
22:28:16  <happy_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hd14w83xdu9249y/Sm0min%27s%20map%20v2.sav?dl=0
22:28:17  <Webster> Title: Dropbox - Sm0min's map v2.sav (at www.dropbox.com)
22:28:31  <happy_> have  a look at that won
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22:29:26  <happy_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hd14w83xdu9249y/Sm0min%27s%20map%20v2.sav?dl=0
22:29:27  <Webster> Title: Dropbox - Sm0min's map v2.sav (at www.dropbox.com)
22:30:21  <coopserver> <Mazth> that TL 10, 4 platforms  loading stations ^^
22:30:51  <happy_> i  make  a  new map    whive  the rite  settings  and  beter   map
22:31:13  <coopserver> <Mazth> shot trains so cute :P
22:31:40  <coopserver> <Mazth> short*
22:32:16  <coopserver> <Mazth> with the right settings it will be a fine map
22:32:21  <happy_> yep  thats wgont i think as  will
22:32:28  <coopserver> <Mazth> quite flat so good for new players
22:32:31  <happy_> whont
22:32:45  <coopserver> <Mazth> or to experiment with longer trainsizes
22:32:56  <happy_> yer
22:33:59  <coopserver> <Mazth> lel the orders on the pink trains =) works so well with tl 10
22:34:37  <coopserver> <Mazth> I think his drop disappeared :P
22:34:44  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:35:21  <coopserver> <Mazth> oh well sleepy taimz :P
22:35:25  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> k
22:35:26  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> gn
22:35:29  <coopserver> <Mazth> nice job on the map
22:35:31  <coopserver> <Mazth> cya!
22:35:35  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> bb
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22:35:37  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> and  thanks
22:36:51  <Mazth> hehe that smosins map...so many hills =)
22:37:03  <Mazth> smomins*
22:37:06  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> yer
22:37:08  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> true
22:39:31  <happy_> mite  have to doo  power  trains  not speeed   wons  mazth on that  map
22:42:39  <Mazth> yh or and short TL so you can actually use CL2 or 3 and have no slowdowns
22:43:13  <happy_> yep
22:43:53  <happy_> will    it to  hills  for me
22:44:12  <happy_> so  i will not  play   it
22:44:31  <happy_> on  that map  mazth
22:45:58  <happy_> tl  2  on that  map  mazth
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22:58:42  <coopserver> <happy tran  sport> hi
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23:44:02  <happy_> gn all
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