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00:00:31 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined spectators 00:01:20 <coopserver> <happy train sport> gn Maxwell 00:01:24 <coopserver> <happy train sport> have fun 00:01:26 <coopserver> <Maxwell> Goodnight 00:01:28 <coopserver> <Maxwell> thanks 00:04:17 *** happpy has left #openttdcoop.stable 00:04:50 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has left the game (Leaving) 00:17:08 <coopserver> <Maxwell> hey 00:17:36 <coopserver> *** Maxwell has left the game (Leaving) 00:17:37 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 00:35:57 <coopserver> *** irolldice has joined 00:35:58 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 00:42:15 <coopserver> *** irolldice has left the game (Leaving) 00:42:16 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 01:51:56 <Sylf> !update 01:51:57 <coopserver> Starting update... 01:53:58 <coopserver> Game successfully updated 01:53:59 <coopserver> Game saved. Shutting down server to finish update. We'll be back shortly 01:54:00 <coopserver> Server Shutting down 01:54:01 <coopserver> Disconnected from #openttdcoop - Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org) 01:54:22 <coopserver> Server is starting 01:57:49 <Sylf> !apconnect 01:57:49 <coopserver> Connecting... 01:57:50 <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version 1.5.0) 01:57:51 <coopserver> Disconnected from #openttdcoop - Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org) 03:50:13 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 04:14:28 <Mark> !dl win64 04:14:28 <coopserver> Mark: http://binaries.openttd.org/releases/1.5.0/openttd-1.5.0-windows-win64.zip 06:15:58 <V453000> yoyo 06:59:27 *** Anson_ has quit IRC 06:59:38 *** Anson has joined #openttdcoop.stable 07:17:22 <Mark> irc bridge broken? 07:17:29 <Mark> test test 07:17:37 <Mark> @op 07:18:19 <Mark> @op 07:18:19 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 07:18:35 <Mark> !rcon say test 07:19:46 <V453000> dono 07:19:52 <V453000> I think the rcon say is also different now 07:19:54 <V453000> different bot 07:20:09 <V453000> but something might be borken, seeing Sylf doing some stuf in the morning 07:31:02 <V453000> !dl win64 07:31:02 <coopserver> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/releases/1.5.0/openttd-1.5.0-windows-win64.zip 07:34:07 <Mark> !players 07:34:07 <coopserver> Mark: The server is empty, noone is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation 07:34:11 <Mark> hmmm 07:38:48 <V453000> oooh 07:38:50 <V453000> hm :) 07:39:09 <V453000> !rcon move 23 1 07:39:09 <coopserver> Sorry, still processing previous rcon command 07:39:13 <V453000> fuck you 08:17:26 *** Anson_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 08:17:53 <Anson_> !dl 08:17:53 <coopserver> Anson_: !download lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 08:17:54 <coopserver> Anson_: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-stable/1.5.0 08:18:12 <Anson_> !dl win64 08:18:13 <coopserver> Anson_: http://binaries.openttd.org/releases/1.5.0/openttd-1.5.0-windows-win64.zip 08:28:12 <Mark> cya V :) 08:29:45 *** Mark has quit IRC 08:53:17 *** Sylf has quit IRC 09:13:05 <Maxwell> hey 09:13:27 *** Maxwell has quit IRC 09:15:01 *** Maxwell has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:15:13 <Maxwell> hi 09:15:23 *** Maxwell has quit IRC 09:15:32 *** Maxwell has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:34:42 *** qwebirc82694 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:35:23 *** qwebirc82694 has quit IRC 09:42:25 *** happpy has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:42:45 <happpy> !date 09:42:45 <coopserver> Aug 07 2207 09:42:53 <happpy> !players 09:42:53 <coopserver> happpy: The server is empty, noone is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation 09:43:42 <happpy> !players 09:43:42 <coopserver> happpy: The server is empty, noone is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation 10:00:47 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:00:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sylf 10:01:38 <happpy> hi Sylf 10:30:26 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:30:28 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 10:34:10 *** happpy has quit IRC 10:40:01 *** Mark has quit IRC 11:18:14 <Anson> connection between game and IRC is broken as well as !name and probablyall other commands 11:18:43 <Anson> afk for dinner now .... bye 11:24:34 *** Anson has quit IRC 11:30:08 *** Maxwell has quit IRC 12:10:24 <^Spike^> !apdisconnect 12:10:27 <^Spike^> !apconnect 12:10:27 <coopserver> Connecting... 14:51:03 <Taede> !apdisconnect 14:51:03 <coopserver> Not connected!! 14:51:05 <Taede> !apconnect 14:51:06 <coopserver> Connecting... 14:51:20 <Taede> !apdisconnect 14:51:20 <coopserver> Not connected!! 14:51:27 <Taede> !apconnect 14:51:28 <coopserver> Connecting... 14:52:42 <Taede> !apdisconnect 14:52:43 <coopserver> Not connected!! 14:52:46 <Taede> !apconnect 14:52:46 <coopserver> Connecting... 14:52:47 <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version 1.5.0) 14:53:24 <Taede> !players 14:53:25 <coopserver> Taede: Client 53 (White) is plonka, in company 1 (happy train sport Transport) 14:53:26 <coopserver> Taede: Spectators: Client 28 (Anson) 15:06:50 <coopserver> <plonka> yeah anson# 15:07:01 <coopserver> <plonka> its working sweet 15:08:44 <coopserver> <Anson> with slh09 in operation, i even have added 20 more trains for candy2 drop :-) 15:09:02 <coopserver> <plonka> yyeah i noticed that too 15:10:23 <coopserver> <Anson> but i think for more trains, we would need to clean it up first, eg setting prio, doubling a bridge, etc 15:10:53 <coopserver> <plonka> yep probaly 15:15:43 <coopserver> <Anson> but candy stacks in the pickup station still don't shrink ... constant around 2000 (1800-2400), before and aftzer the 20 extra trains ... production of factory is 6400 per month :-) 15:16:30 <coopserver> <plonka> ok 15:17:31 <coopserver> <plonka> afk 30 mins or so to do some clean etc 15:17:35 <coopserver> <Anson> just noticed : before improving slh09 and adding more trains, anothre bottleneck would have to be worked on ... the exit of the pickup station starts to jam 15:18:32 <coopserver> <plonka> yeah so it is 15:18:38 <coopserver> <plonka> ok afk 30 mins 15:18:57 <coopserver> <Anson> lol ... need a fifth lane on the ML ? :-) .... 15:19:08 <coopserver> <Anson> I'm afk till late evening too .... CU 15:28:39 <coopserver> *** Anson has joined company #1 15:39:56 *** Jam35_ is now known as Jam35 16:12:16 <coopserver> *** Tomasz333333 has joined 16:12:49 <coopserver> *** Tomasz333333 has left the game (processing map took too long) 16:18:11 *** happpy has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:18:16 <happpy> !date 16:18:17 <coopserver> Mar 06 2260 16:18:22 <happpy> !players 16:18:22 <coopserver> happpy: There are currently 2 players and 0 spectators, making a total of 2 clients connected 16:18:44 <happpy> hi all 16:20:13 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined 16:22:16 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined company #1 16:45:09 <coopserver> *** Loader has joined 16:47:48 <coopserver> *** Loader has left the game (Leaving) 16:55:24 <coopserver> *** MauCresce has joined 16:55:35 <coopserver> *** MauCresce has left the game (Leaving) 17:03:39 <coopserver> *** Ř136Ǎ19Ŭ72 has joined 17:03:46 <coopserver> <happy train sport> hi Ř136Ǎ19Ŭ72 17:06:17 <coopserver> <Anson> hallo, happy 17:06:32 <coopserver> <happy train sport> hi Anson 17:07:09 <coopserver> <Anson> i did the bridges for the new toy factory, but left the stations themselves to somebody else :-) 17:07:21 <coopserver> <happy train sport> i see 17:07:30 <coopserver> <happy train sport> diner tiem 17:07:41 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined spectators 17:07:51 <coopserver> <Anson> did you see slh09 ? that one takes all sweet resources directly to BBH01 instead of the crowded ML 17:08:34 <coopserver> *** iTKerry-_- has joined 17:09:06 <coopserver> *** iTKerry-_- has left the game (processing map took too long) 17:09:19 <coopserver> *** iTKerry-_- has joined 17:09:45 <coopserver> <iTKerry-_-> hey boys 17:09:55 <V453000> yo 17:10:11 <coopserver> <iTKerry-_-> how things V-Gods? 17:10:23 <V453000> yes 17:10:27 <V453000> will have new rawr/purr soon 17:10:39 <coopserver> <iTKerry-_-> new purr? 17:10:42 <coopserver> <iTKerry-_-> yeah baby 17:10:46 <coopserver> <iTKerry-_-> sounds good 17:11:35 <coopserver> <iTKerry-_-> hey happy train sport 17:12:20 <coopserver> <iTKerry-_-> v-god, my terrible lags still here 17:12:31 <coopserver> <iTKerry-_-> coz 32bp nuts i think 17:12:35 <coopserver> <iTKerry-_-> T_T 17:14:03 <coopserver> <Anson> !name "Anson (afk)" 17:14:04 <coopserver> *** Anson has changed his/her name to Anson (afk) 17:14:20 <coopserver> <Anson (afk)> ah, the link to irc and commands seems to work again :-) 17:14:26 <coopserver> *** Anson (afk) has joined spectators 17:18:59 <coopserver> *** iTKerry-_- has left the game (general timeout) 17:19:25 <coopserver> *** iTKerry-_- has joined 17:19:51 <coopserver> *** Ř136Ǎ19Ŭ72 has started a new company #9 17:22:35 <coopserver> <iTKerry-_-> V-God, how can i fix this lags? 17:22:43 <coopserver> <iTKerry-_-> or off 32bp nuts 17:24:16 <coopserver> *** Muel has joined 17:24:21 <coopserver> <Muel> hi 17:24:34 <coopserver> <iTKerry-_-> yo 17:24:38 <coopserver> <Ř136Ǎ19Ŭ72> Hi 17:25:06 <coopserver> <Anson (afk)> kerry: optimizing environment = http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/yeti/wiki/PlayGuide 17:26:07 <coopserver> <Anson (afk)> i fixed my lag by removing the dust between heat sink and fan of the cpu :-) ... it always throttled down when too hot, then cooled down and repeat 17:27:14 <coopserver> *** Muel has left the game (Leaving) 17:29:25 *** Anson_ has quit IRC 17:29:31 <coopserver> *** iTKerry-_- has left the game (Leaving) 17:29:31 *** Anson has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:31:26 <coopserver> *** Ř136Ǎ19Ŭ72 has left the game (Leaving) 17:32:41 <coopserver> *** Ř136Ǎ19Ŭ72 has joined 17:34:32 <coopserver> *** Ř136Ǎ19Ŭ72 has left the game (Leaving) 17:52:52 <coopserver> *** nataraja has joined 17:53:24 <coopserver> *** nataraja has left the game (processing map took too long) 18:22:15 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:22:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Maraxus 18:29:49 <coopserver> *** Muel has joined 18:30:14 <coopserver> <Muel> -o 18:33:40 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has joined 18:37:42 <coopserver> <Taggerts> hi everyone :) 18:41:27 <coopserver> <happy train sport> hi Muel 18:41:30 <coopserver> <happy train sport> hi Taggerts 18:41:34 <coopserver> <happy train sport> how things 18:41:58 <coopserver> <Taggerts> good i`ve build big network XD 18:42:35 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yer i see maks 2 ov us then 18:42:59 <coopserver> <Taggerts> btw why u dont replace train by faster? 18:43:38 <coopserver> <happy train sport> dont like farst trains 18:44:22 <coopserver> <Taggerts> faster trains -> more profit 18:44:47 <coopserver> <happy train sport> i like the wons i got ther good for eney tl cerv 18:44:48 <coopserver> <plonka> faster trains disrupt flow 18:44:55 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yer thats ver true 18:45:03 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yep trur 18:45:06 <coopserver> <happy train sport> true 18:45:10 <coopserver> *** Yum has joined 18:45:11 <coopserver> <Taggerts> =) 18:45:12 <coopserver> <happy train sport> wb plonka 18:45:17 <coopserver> <plonka> thx 18:45:21 <coopserver> <happy train sport> hi Yum 18:45:22 <coopserver> <plonka> cookimg atm 18:45:26 <coopserver> <happy train sport> how things 18:45:32 <coopserver> <plonka> tyhen im back fulltime :) 18:45:42 <coopserver> <Taggerts> so how u decide how fast train u need? 18:46:32 <coopserver> <happy train sport> farst trains need tl cerv 6 or 5 so ther dont slow down 18:47:09 <coopserver> <Taggerts> thats interesting 18:48:01 <coopserver> <Taggerts> is there any good speed limit to tl3? 18:48:08 <coopserver> <Yum> why isint the password working 18:48:17 <coopserver> <Yum> it got cola and bubbles to connect 18:48:32 <coopserver> <plonka> you your pw is 231 18:48:37 <coopserver> <plonka> i think 18:48:38 <coopserver> *** Yum has joined company #2 18:49:05 <coopserver> <plonka> version update rest your pw i set it to 231 to protect your company :) 18:49:18 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yep 18:49:33 <coopserver> <plonka> if i rolldice joins too his is also 231 18:50:01 <coopserver> <happy train sport> not shor Taggerts on that 18:52:52 <coopserver> *** Muel has left the game (Leaving) 18:53:24 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined company #1 18:55:57 <coopserver> <happy train sport> see u got nice trains Taggerts but got sume tl 1 cerv but its k 18:59:00 <coopserver> <Taggerts> is there any special idea to build terminus instead of roro? 18:59:14 <coopserver> <Taggerts> except not much space 18:59:28 <coopserver> <happy train sport> heem wher doo a sign# 19:00:30 <coopserver> <Taggerts> toys factory pickup station 19:00:36 <coopserver> <happy train sport> i see 19:01:14 <coopserver> <happy train sport> no we dun it like that be cours not a lot ov room 19:01:47 <coopserver> <Taggerts> ok, thanks 19:01:53 <coopserver> <happy train sport> we can doo it won in and out but have to doo water tf 19:03:07 <coopserver> <Taggerts> isnt 4 tracks roro have more capacity then 6 track terminus? 19:03:42 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yer we mite 19:03:51 <coopserver> <happy train sport> i think so 19:13:00 <coopserver> <Yum> now i need to destroy mount clickville 19:13:03 <coopserver> *** Yum has joined spectators 19:13:08 <coopserver> *** Yum has started a new company #10 19:13:26 <coopserver> *** Yum has joined company #2 19:29:20 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:29:22 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 19:43:07 <happpy> hi mark 19:43:12 <happpy> how things 19:46:58 <coopserver> *** Mark has joined 19:47:08 <coopserver> <Mark> hello 19:47:25 <coopserver> <Yum> hey 19:47:29 <coopserver> <happy train sport> hi 19:47:36 <coopserver> <happy train sport> how things Mark 19:48:26 <coopserver> <Mark> good thanks 19:48:29 <coopserver> <Mark> how are you happy 19:48:33 <coopserver> <happy train sport> grate 19:48:42 <coopserver> <Mark> nice network 19:49:05 <coopserver> <happy train sport> u need a biger sweet factory drop 19:49:23 <coopserver> <happy train sport> thanks plonka and Anson (afk) as help me 19:57:54 *** irolldice has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:58:03 <irolldice> anyone talking about a new map yet? 19:58:13 <coopserver> *** Kot has joined 19:58:15 <happpy> nop 19:58:39 <coopserver> <Mark> if anyone has a new map ill start it 19:58:50 <happpy> the server restart when a map is up load 19:58:51 <coopserver> *** Kot has left the game (Leaving) 20:05:01 <happpy> i got a yeti map but i can change stuf on it 20:05:29 <coopserver> <Yum> yeti is fine 20:05:42 <happpy> k 20:07:12 <coopserver> *** Kot has joined 20:07:42 <coopserver> *** Kot has left the game (Leaving) 20:07:46 <happpy> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4fx5x5f27baib8b/happy%20%20yeti%20map.sav?dl=0 20:08:30 <happpy> have al look ferst mark 20:08:41 <happpy> be for u load it 20:09:25 <coopserver> *** Mark has left the game (Leaving) 20:09:31 <happpy> or if eney wo got a map then go for it 20:12:39 <Mark> !getsave https://www.dropbox.com/s/4fx5x5f27baib8b/happy%20%20yeti%20map.sav?dl=0 20:12:39 <coopserver> Mark: Sorry, only .sav files are supported 20:13:01 <Mark> !getsave https://www.dropbox.com/s/4fx5x5f27baib8b/happy%20%20yeti%20map.sav 20:13:01 <coopserver> Starting download... 20:13:06 <coopserver> Savegame successfully downloaded 20:13:42 <Mark> !rcon ls 20:13:43 <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory) 20:13:44 <coopserver> 1) archive/ (Directory) 20:13:45 <coopserver> 2) autosave/ (Directory) 20:13:46 <coopserver> 3) uploads/ (Directory) 20:13:47 <coopserver> 4) 20150118-preboot.sav 20:13:48 <coopserver> Mark: You have 6 more messages. Type !less to view them 20:13:53 <Mark> !rcon cd 3 20:13:55 <Mark> !rcon ls 20:13:56 <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory) 20:13:57 <coopserver> 1) happy%20%20yeti%20map.sav 20:13:58 <coopserver> 2) JStable280315.sav 20:13:59 <coopserver> 3) JStable220315.sav 20:14:00 <coopserver> 4) JStable160315.sav 20:14:01 <coopserver> Mark: You have 35 more messages. Type !less to view them 20:14:02 <Mark> here she comes 20:14:07 <Mark> !rcon load 1 20:14:08 <coopserver> Starting new game 20:14:11 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has left the game (connection lost) 20:14:12 <coopserver> *** plonka has left the game (connection lost) 20:14:13 <coopserver> *** Anson (afk) has left the game (connection lost) 20:14:14 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has left the game (connection lost) 20:14:15 <coopserver> *** Yum has left the game (connection lost) 20:14:16 <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version 1.5.0) 20:14:17 <coopserver> Game Load Failed, Broken savegame - Inconsistent size 20:14:18 <coopserver> ERROR: Game Load Failed, Broken savegame - Inconsistent size 20:14:19 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:14:21 <coopserver> *** plonka has joined 20:14:22 <coopserver> *** Yum has joined 20:14:23 <coopserver> *** Anson has joined 20:14:24 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined 20:14:25 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has joined 20:14:26 <coopserver> <Yum> not yeti 20:14:35 <Mark> no 20:14:38 <Mark> broken savegame 20:15:07 <happpy> ar f 20:15:10 <Mark> hang on a second 20:15:15 <coopserver> <Yum> k 20:15:23 <coopserver> <Yum> technical difficulties 20:15:34 <coopserver> *** Mark has joined 20:15:38 <happpy> wate i see if i can change it 20:15:48 <coopserver> <Mark> standard map of death 20:16:05 <Mark> what does that even mean 20:16:10 <Mark> inconsistent size? 20:16:13 <Jam35> I had similar problem with happy map 20:16:17 <Jam35> no idea :) 20:16:29 <Jam35> I just loaded another 20:16:35 <Mark> right 20:16:35 <happpy> heem k i doo a new won 20:16:47 <Mark> i can throw a quick one together if you want 20:16:47 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has left the game (Leaving) 20:17:04 <happpy> k 20:17:22 <Mark> ill make it something similair 20:17:30 <coopserver> *** Mark has left the game (Leaving) 20:17:42 <happpy> just load the map we just hadefor now 20:18:30 <coopserver> <Yum> i wonder if i wont be alone in my company for once 20:18:40 <coopserver> <Yum> im never with a team in multiplayer 20:18:41 <Mark> what year do we start? 20:18:42 <Mark> 1920? 20:18:55 <Mark> happy ill only be a minute 20:19:05 <coopserver> <Yum> 1900 20:19:09 <coopserver> <Yum> i think 20:19:13 <coopserver> *** Yum has started a new company #1 20:19:14 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:19:25 <coopserver> *** Yum has joined spectators 20:19:26 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:19:31 <coopserver> <Yum> oh this is vanilla 20:19:40 <coopserver> <Yum> get put of here vanilla 20:19:49 <happpy> yep 1900 20:19:51 <coopserver> *** plonka has started a new company #2 20:19:52 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:19:56 <happpy> 1900 20:20:46 <coopserver> *** Yum has joined company #1 20:21:09 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined 20:21:24 <coopserver> <happy train sport> dont start this not the right map plonka 20:22:02 <happpy> heem i need to fixs my save thin a gen 20:22:31 <Mark> !getsave https://www.dropbox.com/s/jyk21ucxkqtacbn/wsg_030415.sav 20:22:31 <coopserver> Starting download... 20:22:33 <coopserver> Savegame successfully downloaded 20:22:40 <Mark> !rcon load 1 20:22:41 <coopserver> Starting new game 20:22:42 <coopserver> *** plonka has left the game (connection lost) 20:22:43 <coopserver> *** Yum has left the game (connection lost) 20:22:44 <coopserver> *** Anson has left the game (connection lost) 20:22:46 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has left the game (connection lost) 20:22:47 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has left the game (connection lost) 20:22:48 <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version 1.5.0) 20:22:49 <coopserver> Game Load Failed, Broken savegame - Inconsistent size 20:22:50 <coopserver> ERROR: Game Load Failed, Broken savegame - Inconsistent size 20:22:51 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:22:52 <coopserver> *** plonka has joined 20:22:53 <coopserver> *** Anson has joined 20:22:54 <coopserver> *** Yum has joined 20:22:55 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has joined 20:22:57 <happpy> a gen 20:22:58 <Mark> the fuck 20:23:07 <Mark> thats a completely different map 20:23:08 <happpy> heem 20:23:08 <coopserver> *** Yum has started a new company #1 20:23:09 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:23:11 <Mark> must be newgrf related 20:23:16 <happpy> yer 20:23:32 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined 20:23:58 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has left the game (Leaving) 20:24:09 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has left the game (Leaving) 20:25:23 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has joined 20:25:29 <coopserver> *** Yum has joined spectators 20:25:30 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:25:39 <Mark> !getsave https://www.dropbox.com/s/17in74245dzpt32/wsg_0204_v2.sav 20:25:39 <coopserver> Starting download... 20:25:41 <coopserver> Savegame successfully downloaded 20:25:46 <Mark> !rcon ls 20:25:47 <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory) 20:25:48 <coopserver> 1) wsg_0204_v2.sav 20:25:49 <coopserver> 2) wsg_030415.sav 20:25:50 <coopserver> 3) happy%20%20yeti%20map.sav 20:25:51 <Mark> !rcon load 1 20:25:51 <coopserver> 4) JStable280315.sav 20:25:53 <coopserver> Mark: You have 37 more messages. Type !less to view them 20:25:54 <coopserver> Starting new game 20:25:55 <coopserver> *** plonka has left the game (connection lost) 20:25:56 <coopserver> *** Anson has left the game (connection lost) 20:25:57 <coopserver> *** Yum has left the game (connection lost) 20:25:58 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has left the game (connection lost) 20:25:59 <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version 1.5.0) 20:26:00 <coopserver> Game Load Failed, Broken savegame - Inconsistent size 20:26:01 <coopserver> ERROR: Game Load Failed, Broken savegame - Inconsistent size 20:26:02 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:26:03 <coopserver> *** plonka has joined 20:26:04 <coopserver> *** Anson has joined 20:26:05 <coopserver> *** Yum has joined 20:26:05 <Mark> omg 20:26:07 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has joined 20:26:08 <coopserver> <Yum> again 20:26:10 <coopserver> <Taggerts> nooooooooooooo 20:26:12 <coopserver> <Yum> and its 1945 20:26:13 <happpy> heem 20:26:23 <coopserver> *** Yum has started a new company #1 20:26:24 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:27:01 <coopserver> *** Tomasz333333 has joined 20:27:20 <coopserver> <Yum> !reset 20:27:30 <coopserver> <Tomasz333333> Hi. 20:27:35 <coopserver> <Tomasz333333> Lol track. 20:27:35 <Jam35> did you use any new newgrf? 20:27:41 <Mark> !getsave https://www.dropbox.com/s/1du2fxdt76c77uo/wsg_0904.sav 20:27:42 <coopserver> Starting download... 20:27:43 <Jam35> like not downloaded? 20:27:45 <coopserver> Savegame successfully downloaded 20:27:53 <Mark> !rcon load 1 20:27:55 <coopserver> Starting new game 20:27:56 <coopserver> *** plonka has left the game (connection lost) 20:27:57 <coopserver> *** Anson has left the game (connection lost) 20:27:58 <coopserver> *** Yum has left the game (connection lost) 20:27:59 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has left the game (connection lost) 20:28:00 <coopserver> *** Tomasz333333 has left the game (connection lost) 20:28:01 <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version 1.5.0) 20:28:02 <coopserver> Game Load Failed, Broken savegame - Inconsistent size 20:28:03 <coopserver> ERROR: Game Load Failed, Broken savegame - Inconsistent size 20:28:04 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:28:05 <coopserver> *** plonka has joined 20:28:05 <Jam35> I don't think that's the problem 20:28:06 <coopserver> *** Anson has joined 20:28:07 <coopserver> *** Tomasz333333 has joined 20:28:08 <coopserver> *** Yum has joined 20:28:12 <coopserver> <Yum> technical difficlties 20:28:19 <Mark> that last one is an old one 20:28:25 <Mark> one weve played before 20:28:32 <Jam35> oh :/ 20:28:39 <coopserver> <Tomasz333333> I like 1.5.0 server. 20:28:41 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has joined 20:28:53 <coopserver> <Tomasz333333> I like 1.5.0 version.* 20:28:59 <coopserver> *** Tomasz333333 has left the game (Leaving) 20:29:04 <Mark> very strange 20:29:09 <Mark> !rcon ls 20:29:10 <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory) 20:29:11 <coopserver> 1) wsg_0904.sav 20:29:12 <coopserver> 2) wsg_0204_v2.sav 20:29:13 <coopserver> 3) wsg_030415.sav 20:29:14 <coopserver> 4) happy%20%20yeti%20map.sav 20:29:15 <coopserver> Mark: You have 38 more messages. Type !less to view them 20:29:20 <Mark> !rcon cd 0 20:29:22 <Mark> !rcon ls 20:29:23 <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory) 20:29:24 <coopserver> 1) archive/ (Directory) 20:29:25 <coopserver> 2) autosave/ (Directory) 20:29:26 <coopserver> 3) uploads/ (Directory) 20:29:27 <coopserver> 4) 20150118-preboot.sav 20:29:28 <coopserver> Mark: You have 6 more messages. Type !less to view them 20:29:31 <coopserver> *** Yum has started a new company #1 20:29:32 <Mark> !rcon cd 2 20:29:32 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:29:34 <Mark> !rcon ls 20:29:38 <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory) 20:29:39 <coopserver> 1) autosave69.sav 20:29:40 <coopserver> 2) autosave68.sav 20:29:41 <coopserver> 3) autosave67.sav 20:29:42 <coopserver> 4) autosave66.sav 20:29:43 <coopserver> Mark: You have 2401 more messages. Type !less to view them 20:29:46 <Mark> !rcon load 1 20:29:47 <coopserver> Starting new game 20:29:49 <coopserver> *** plonka has left the game (connection lost) 20:29:50 <coopserver> *** Anson has left the game (connection lost) 20:29:51 <coopserver> *** Yum has left the game (connection lost) 20:29:52 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has left the game (connection lost) 20:29:53 <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version 1.5.0) 20:29:54 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:29:55 <coopserver> *** plonka has joined 20:29:56 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has joined 20:29:57 <coopserver> *** Anson has joined 20:30:00 <coopserver> *** Yum has joined 20:30:09 <happpy> u got it mark 20:30:14 <coopserver> *** Yum has joined company #2 20:30:15 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:30:16 <coopserver> *** Mark has joined 20:30:38 <coopserver> <Mark> lets play this for now 20:30:39 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined 20:30:48 <Jam35> :) 20:30:58 <Mark> Jam35: this is the game we were playing before 20:30:58 <Jam35> maybe it's something in the new version 20:31:16 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined spectators 20:31:32 <happpy> yer mite be jam 20:31:32 <coopserver> *** Mark has joined company #7 20:31:34 <happpy> heem k 20:31:51 <coopserver> <Mark> you'll need to set your company pw again 20:32:00 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has joined company #4 20:32:04 <Jam35> but you created map with it so... 20:32:04 <happpy> dun 20:32:57 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has left the game (Leaving) 20:33:00 <happpy> but we never had this problem be for 20:33:41 <Jam35> yes we did 20:33:58 <Jam35> but it solved itself by loading different map 20:34:09 <happpy> heem k 20:34:49 <Jam35> and it was your map happy 20:34:59 <Jam35> I assumed something was wrong there 20:35:00 <happpy> k i mite have to fixs my save thin a gen 20:35:06 <Jam35> somehow 20:35:31 <coopserver> <Mark> only the first one i tried was happy's map 20:35:34 <coopserver> <Mark> the others were mine 20:35:37 <coopserver> <Mark> and even an old one we played before 20:35:54 <happpy> heem k i going to remove all my save maps and start a gen 20:36:00 <Jam35> exactly so idk now :) 20:36:01 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has left the game (Leaving) 20:37:02 <happpy> k my drop boxs has nufing in it 20:37:13 <happpy> now let me try sume thin 20:38:17 <happpy> how big is this map we got now 20:38:34 <coopserver> <Mark> 1024*512 20:38:50 <happpy> heem k 20:41:11 <happpy> i had my set as 512 1024 lest try the uver way 20:42:48 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has joined 20:43:34 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has left the game (Leaving) 20:47:12 <coopserver> *** Yum has left the game (Leaving) 20:47:38 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined 20:50:50 <coopserver> *** Muel has joined 20:50:53 <coopserver> <Muel> hi 20:50:55 <happpy> hi 20:52:39 <coopserver> *** Muel has left the game (Leaving) 20:59:40 <coopserver> *** Mark has left the game (general timeout) 20:59:41 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:00:04 <coopserver> *** irolldice has joined 21:00:05 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:00:11 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 21:00:35 <coopserver> *** irolldice has left the game (Leaving) 21:00:36 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:00:46 <Mark> !version 21:00:47 <coopserver> Mark: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.4.1. The newest version available online is 0.83.4.1. 21:00:50 <Mark> !revision 21:00:50 <coopserver> Mark: Game version is 1.5.0. Use Download <os-version> to get a direct download link. 21:00:55 <irolldice> did we give up on the new map> 21:01:16 <Mark> not sure what to do about it 21:01:24 <Mark> ill try once more 21:03:29 <happpy> mark the irc need up date its still say 1.5.0-be1 ordus that not mater 21:16:10 *** Taede changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.5.0 | Admin channel (ask for op) | run !setdef after loading a new game | http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/servers-stable | For hints on creating maps, read http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/10/16/creating-maps/" 21:16:36 <Mark> !getsave http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Wsg_0304_v5.sav 21:16:36 <coopserver> Starting download... 21:16:37 <coopserver> Savegame successfully downloaded 21:16:39 <Mark> last try 21:16:41 <Mark> !rcon ls 21:16:46 <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory) 21:16:47 <coopserver> 1) autosave71.sav 21:16:48 <coopserver> 2) autosave70.sav 21:16:49 <coopserver> 3) autosave69.sav 21:16:50 <coopserver> 4) autosave68.sav 21:16:50 <Mark> !rcon cd 0 21:16:52 <coopserver> Mark: You have 2401 more messages. Type !less to view them 21:16:52 <Mark> !rcon ls 21:16:53 <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory) 21:16:54 <coopserver> 1) archive/ (Directory) 21:16:55 <coopserver> 2) autosave/ (Directory) 21:16:56 <coopserver> 3) uploads/ (Directory) 21:16:57 <coopserver> 4) 20150118-preboot.sav 21:16:58 <coopserver> Mark: You have 6 more messages. Type !less to view them 21:17:00 <Mark> !rcon cd 3 21:17:03 <Mark> !rcon load 1 21:17:05 <coopserver> Starting new game 21:17:06 <coopserver> *** plonka has left the game (connection lost) 21:17:07 <coopserver> *** Anson has left the game (connection lost) 21:17:08 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has left the game (connection lost) 21:17:09 <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version 1.5.0) 21:17:10 <coopserver> Game Load Failed, Broken savegame - Inconsistent size 21:17:11 <coopserver> ERROR: Game Load Failed, Broken savegame - Inconsistent size 21:17:12 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:17:13 <coopserver> *** plonka has joined 21:17:14 <coopserver> *** Anson has joined 21:17:15 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined 21:17:20 <Mark> i give up 21:17:24 <Mark> back to the autosave 21:17:28 <coopserver> <plonka> poop map :( 21:17:37 <Mark> !rcon ls 21:17:38 <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory) 21:17:39 <Mark> !rcon cd 0 21:17:40 <coopserver> 1) File:Wsg_0304_v5.sav 21:17:41 <coopserver> 2) wsg_0904.sav 21:17:42 <coopserver> 3) wsg_0204_v2.sav 21:17:43 <coopserver> 4) wsg_030415.sav 21:17:44 <coopserver> Mark: You have 39 more messages. Type !less to view them 21:17:54 <Mark> !rcon ls 21:17:55 <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory) 21:17:56 <coopserver> 1) archive/ (Directory) 21:17:57 <coopserver> 2) autosave/ (Directory) 21:17:58 <coopserver> 3) uploads/ (Directory) 21:17:59 <coopserver> 4) 20150118-preboot.sav 21:18:00 <coopserver> Mark: You have 6 more messages. Type !less to view them 21:18:01 <Mark> !rcon cd 2 21:18:03 <Mark> !rcon load 1 21:18:05 <coopserver> Starting new game 21:18:06 <coopserver> *** plonka has left the game (connection lost) 21:18:07 <coopserver> *** Anson has left the game (connection lost) 21:18:08 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has left the game (connection lost) 21:18:09 <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version 1.5.0) 21:18:10 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:18:12 <coopserver> *** Anson has joined 21:18:13 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined 21:18:20 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined company #1 21:18:21 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:18:35 <Mark> enough messing about for me today 21:18:38 <Mark> hope i didnt break anything 21:18:52 <happpy> k 21:18:59 <coopserver> *** Mark has joined 21:20:08 <coopserver> *** plonka has joined 21:20:19 <happpy> mite be a bug mark 21:20:33 <coopserver> <Mark> well 21:20:37 <coopserver> <Mark> this map works doesnt it 21:20:43 <happpy> eney way lest stay on this won 21:20:47 <happpy> yep 21:21:03 <happpy> i just dont get it y ther uver maps will not 21:21:20 <coopserver> <Mark> me neither 21:21:23 <coopserver> <Mark> tried everything 21:21:30 <happpy> yep 21:21:41 <coopserver> <Mark> even tried it on the public server 21:23:25 <happpy> or ther a bug on this openttd this map we got now is from the old open ttd be for the up date 21:23:49 <coopserver> <Mark> oh is it 21:23:51 <coopserver> <Mark> hm 21:23:56 <coopserver> <Mark> might be that then 21:28:10 <happpy> k i think no new maps in till the problem is fixs 21:28:10 <happpy> Broken savegame - Inconsistent size heem 21:28:10 <irolldice> did you make the map on RC-01? 21:28:10 <happpy> this wom we got yes 21:28:10 <coopserver> <Mark> on 1.5.0 21:28:10 <happpy> we re need to find out whonts Broken savegame - Inconsistent save is 21:28:26 <happpy> or the problem 21:32:35 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has joined 22:15:19 <coopserver> <Mark> the fuck 22:15:23 <coopserver> <Mark> BUG 22:15:27 <coopserver> <Mark> EPIC PBS BUG 22:15:38 <coopserver> <happy train sport> lol 22:15:53 <coopserver> <Mark> surely trains arent supposed to crash without interference 22:16:19 <happpy> heem yer 22:16:26 <coopserver> <Mark> i didnt touch them 22:16:35 <coopserver> <Mark> look !here 22:16:43 <coopserver> <Mark> lets see if it will happen again 22:17:24 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yep i see 22:17:40 <coopserver> <Mark> now watch 22:17:52 <coopserver> <Mark> !! 22:17:54 <coopserver> <Mark> see that 22:17:58 <coopserver> <Mark> i didnt do anything 22:18:08 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yer 22:18:20 <coopserver> <Mark> and again 22:18:29 <coopserver> <Mark> V where are ya 22:18:33 <Mark> V453000 22:18:34 <coopserver> <happy train sport> heem change the sigmal 22:19:04 <coopserver> <Mark> well its stupid signalling anyway 22:19:12 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yep 22:19:14 <coopserver> <Mark> dont know what im doing anyway 22:19:24 <coopserver> <Mark> but the point is, theyre not supposed to crash 22:19:28 <coopserver> <Anson> hallo, I'm back, and reading old IRC from 3 hours ago :-) 22:19:31 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yer true 22:19:42 <coopserver> <happy train sport> hi Anson 22:19:48 <coopserver> <Mark> hello 22:20:48 <coopserver> <Anson> about terminus and roro : in both cases, a platform is blocked while a train enters and leaves. at terminues it is blocked a little longer, just for the time it takes to clear the 2 or 3 tiles in front of the platform 22:21:06 <happpy> yep 22:21:19 <coopserver> <Anson> thus for very short trains (TL1 :-) the difference is bigger than for long trains (TL12 :-) 22:22:03 <coopserver> <Mark> happy train sport: !test 22:22:12 <coopserver> <Anson> in general, there is a significant difference if you are at the limit, but no big one if you have enough platforms 22:22:25 <coopserver> <Mark> boom 22:22:49 <coopserver> <Taggerts> its kinda boring to build large terminus 22:23:07 <coopserver> <Anson> when you want to build invisible depots, terminus is easier: just drop a depot after the exit ... on roro you need to use reversers etc 22:24:15 <coopserver> <happy train sport> heem i see Mark 22:24:56 <coopserver> <Mark> there 22:25:20 <coopserver> <happy train sport> k remov the blok sigmal 22:25:50 <coopserver> *** Player has joined 22:26:13 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined company #7 22:26:24 <coopserver> <Player> !name Jam35 22:26:25 <coopserver> *** Player has changed his/her name to Jam35 22:26:49 <coopserver> <Jam35> you invented a train smasher? 22:26:55 <coopserver> <Jam35> where? :) 22:27:02 <coopserver> <Mark> !test 22:27:14 <coopserver> <Mark> will crash again in a second 22:27:18 <coopserver> <Mark> dont touch it happy 22:27:26 <coopserver> <Mark> boom 22:27:31 <coopserver> <Jam35> yes! 22:28:12 <coopserver> <happy train sport> i fort that ther shord not doo that whive the sigmal 22:28:14 <coopserver> <Jam35> any idea why though? :) 22:28:34 <coopserver> <Jam35> TL3 right? 22:28:39 <coopserver> <Jam35> weird 22:29:16 <coopserver> *** irolldice has joined 22:29:43 <coopserver> <Mark> the train entering the pbs block doesnt realise the one in front of it will turn around 22:30:04 <coopserver> <irolldice> where?? 22:30:07 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yer i see now 22:30:09 <coopserver> <Mark> !test 22:30:23 <coopserver> <happy train sport> thats werd 22:30:24 <coopserver> <Jam35> but it (should have) cleared the signal 22:30:31 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yer 22:30:33 <coopserver> <happy train sport> true 22:30:51 <coopserver> <Jam35> whatever I like it 22:30:56 <coopserver> <Mark> :D 22:31:00 <coopserver> <Mark> ill try without the arrow 22:32:07 <coopserver> *** irolldice has left the game (Leaving) 22:32:23 <coopserver> <happy train sport> nop 22:34:59 <coopserver> <Mark> well its got me fucked 22:35:33 <coopserver> <Mark> something to do with the twoway pbs 22:37:29 <coopserver> <Jam35> it's a harsh way of dealing with overflow trains 22:37:35 <coopserver> <Mark> :D 22:37:52 <coopserver> <Mark> thats an awesome idea 22:38:00 <coopserver> <Mark> train trasher for excess trains 22:38:27 <coopserver> <Jam35> I tried and failed to build it a while back 22:38:43 <coopserver> *** plonka has left the game (Leaving) 22:38:51 <coopserver> <Jam35> i know there is some combo of presignals/pbs 22:39:01 <coopserver> <Jam35> that causes crashes 22:39:09 <coopserver> <Jam35> could not figure it 22:39:25 <coopserver> <Mark> boom 22:39:31 <coopserver> <Mark> it only works in this exact setup 22:39:40 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yep 22:39:41 <coopserver> <Mark> well it doesnt need the arrow 22:39:54 <coopserver> <Jam35> so the rail configuration might be important too 22:39:56 <coopserver> <Mark> has to have the twoway pbs facing the opposite direction 22:40:06 <coopserver> <Mark> and a oneway in front of it 22:41:19 <coopserver> <Mark> boom 22:41:46 <coopserver> <Jam35> they are let through at same time 22:41:52 <coopserver> <Mark> yeah 22:42:10 <coopserver> <Mark> i think the second train has to pass through the twoway pbs before the first one turns around 22:42:20 <coopserver> <Jam35> so it's quite precise timing I guess 22:42:29 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yer it did mark 22:42:36 <coopserver> <Jam35> just so happens that is it 22:42:42 <coopserver> <Mark> well 22:42:44 <coopserver> <Jam35> try different speed train 22:43:00 <coopserver> <Mark> with the gaps exactly 3 tiles it works every single time 22:43:10 <coopserver> <happy train sport> farst or slow 22:43:38 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has joined company #7 22:44:49 <coopserver> <Mark> here goes superslow 22:45:15 <coopserver> <Jam35> hm :) 22:45:16 <coopserver> <Mark> speed wont matter 22:45:35 <coopserver> <Mark> as long as theres a train waiting at the oneway it will enter the block 22:46:06 <coopserver> <Mark> as soon as the first trains passes the twoway 22:46:31 <coopserver> <Anson> there was always some problem with combining twoway PBS with block signals, mostly at stations 22:46:45 <coopserver> <Mark> but the first trains has to turn around before the twoway is passed by the second 22:46:54 <coopserver> <Mark> otherwise the twoway block signal will just go red 22:47:07 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yer true i see 22:47:31 <coopserver> <Anson> oneway PBS checks from pbs until twoway block, no train, thus enter ... and twoway block checks only up to twoway pbs, no train, enter ... and thus the crash 22:48:22 <coopserver> <happy train sport> it dont it for wet trains 22:48:35 <coopserver> <Mark> ill show you happy 22:48:58 <coopserver> <happy train sport> k 22:49:04 <coopserver> <Anson> the reversing train was slower, thus hadn't turned around when the other train already had passed the twoway pbs 22:49:12 <coopserver> <happy train sport> AR 22:49:20 <coopserver> <happy train sport> heem 22:49:25 <coopserver> <Mark> the second block has to be TL 22:49:32 <coopserver> <happy train sport> hem k 22:49:34 <coopserver> <Mark> so it turns around quicly after the second trains entered 22:49:54 <coopserver> <Mark> otherwise the twoway block signal will just go red 22:50:22 <coopserver> <Anson> the problem is the logic behind twoway pbs : from one side, it appears to not exist while from the other side it is a pbs 22:51:01 <coopserver> <Jam35> but technically the reversing train is out of that block 22:51:02 <coopserver> <Mark> theyre nasty things 22:51:16 <coopserver> <Anson> if you use it together with other pbs, there mostly are no problems since the pbs checks differently, but with block signals, only part of the track is checked 22:51:22 <coopserver> <Mark> well the reversing train sees the twoway pbs as green 22:52:03 <coopserver> <Anson> and that gets critical, when timing is bad : path not yet reserved completely, but train from other side enters, and then the path reservation is done ... or something like that 22:52:04 <coopserver> <Mark> lets try with twoway pbs instead of twoway block 22:54:05 <coopserver> <Mark> nope wont crash 22:54:12 <coopserver> <happy train sport> heem 22:54:13 <coopserver> <happy train sport> k 22:54:25 <coopserver> <Mark> these trains dont have orders though 22:54:30 <coopserver> <Mark> not sure that makes a difference 22:56:14 <Anson> do you have "show reserved path" set to ON ? then you might be able to see what happens (better yet: do it offline and use the pause button a few times) 22:56:45 <coopserver> <Jam35> well, happy smashing gn 22:56:50 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has left the game (Leaving) 22:58:38 <coopserver> <happy train sport> heem so t dus it foe tl 3 but not tl 4 22:59:07 <coopserver> <Mark> night Jam 22:59:10 <happpy> gn jam 23:00:01 <Anson> it has to do with where the train waits, not the length of track directly ... a train with TL3 on a track of TL5 takes longer to turn and get back to stop at the signal ... for TL3 trains and TL3 track, the timng is perfect 23:00:35 <coopserver> <happy train sport> heem yer true Anson 23:01:06 <coopserver> <happy train sport> heem that was werd 23:01:35 <Anson> from the twoway block, the train only checks up to the twoway pbs, and thus can enter no matter whether another train is coming 23:01:47 <coopserver> <happy train sport> true 23:02:15 <coopserver> <happy train sport> it mite be bug or sume thin 23:02:19 <coopserver> <happy train sport> Mark: 23:02:21 <Anson> it usually works properly though, since the train from pbs reserves the path up to the twoway block, and the check on the other side fails 23:02:27 <coopserver> <happy train sport> whive the sigmal 23:02:36 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yep 23:03:47 <coopserver> *** Mark has left the game (general timeout) 23:03:51 <Anson> BUT if two trains are both waiting, the timing doesn't work ... 23:04:05 <coopserver> <happy train sport> yer i see 23:04:14 <coopserver> *** happy train sport has joined spectators 23:04:34 <coopserver> <happy train sport> will mark as to shor it to v 23:05:16 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 23:05:16 <Anson> the only case when those crashes happen is when you arrange 1way PBS, 2way PBS and a 2way block, and then let trains wait ... thus the rule : never put a block and a 1way pbs on opposite dides of a 2way pbs 23:05:42 <coopserver> <happy train sport> heem yer 23:06:21 <Anson> it quite often happens when you have a station, with 2way block on onde side, and the pbs on the other 23:06:47 <Anson> on my old broken comp from 3+ years ago, i might have some such savegame :-) 23:07:43 <Anson> it's an old known problem, but should be attributed to "improper signaling" ... just don't let pbs and block face each other with a twoway pbs between them 23:10:31 <happpy> anson if u read whont it say when mark try to doo a map it say Broken savegame - Inconsistent save so we not shor y so 23:11:25 *** Mark has quit IRC 23:11:53 <Anson> i tried to load those savegames, and dropbox asked me whether i want to download or to save to my dropbox, then requires me to login to dropbox ... thus the savegame you used might not have been a .sav, but the webpage with that question 23:12:43 <Anson> a while ago, such a problem started when they started creating links with the ?dl=0 ... seems they now do similar also for files without the ?dl=0 23:13:59 <Anson> i should autologin when i start a webpage on dropbox, but when clicking a link, it still asks me to chose to download or copy to my dropbox, and then asks for login 23:16:12 *** Jam35 is now known as Jam35_ 23:16:31 <Anson> try opening and/or saving files from dropbox ... check whether it immediately starts to ask for a download location, or asks first whether you want to download and/or that you login ... the latter type of dropbox links cause bad .sav games (which are no .sav, but the webpage) 23:17:20 *** [1]Mark has quit IRC 23:18:26 <happpy> heem 23:18:27 <happpy> k 23:19:04 <happpy> will looks like we got this map for now 23:21:34 <Anson> trying to download http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Wsg_0304_v5.sav might be the same effect (unless they do an extra check for files from ottdcoop) : click that link and you are on the wikipage with info about that file, and NOT the file itself ... the file itself is http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/b/b1/Wsg_0304_v5.sav 23:23:20 <coopserver> *** Taggerts has left the game (Leaving) 23:23:21 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:23:59 <happpy> i see 23:24:25 <Anson> when i select "share a link", dropbox copies this to the clipboard: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zwaqy3xhhnl4hg/SC20150331-164746.png?dl=0 23:25:02 <Anson> what should wor, is https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zwaqy3xhhnl4hg/SC20150331-164746.png (without the dl=0) 23:26:15 <happpy> yep 23:26:59 <Anson> BUT it doesn't work any longer !!!!!!! it leads to the picture with a footer attached, saying "Why does this link take me to my Dropbox?" 23:27:31 <happpy> yer me to 23:27:36 <Anson> thus the link is not a link to the file (even without the dl=0), but also just to a webpage with the picture embedded 23:27:54 <happpy> it dus it to me 23:28:07 <happpy> wach this anson 23:28:10 <Anson> and when the server tries to load the file directly, it is of couse a bad .sav 23:28:16 <happpy> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1oic8bl1mtr3ggb/happy%20%20map.sav?dl=0 23:29:31 <happpy> now y it dont just say happy map 23:30:45 <happpy> yep 23:30:55 <Anson> dropbox wants to offer more and better options, and want to avoid that people just use dropbox without others (non-dropbox customers) seeing that it was hosted at dropbox 23:31:31 <Anson> thus a while ago, they added that dl=0 option to the filename, and we already had a series of such broken savegames 23:31:37 <happpy> yep 23:32:49 <Anson> seems that just recently (during the last few days) they added another option to make it easier for people to copy files to their own dropbox by asking "download or copy", but that breaks the direct download again in the same way :-( 23:33:11 <happpy> yep 23:36:20 <Anson> https://www.dropbox.com/help/167 23:37:32 <Anson> in that help, dropbox says that people opening the link get a preview of the file on the dropbox webpage and then can download it from there ... no more directly using that file ... 23:37:54 <happpy> i see 23:41:01 <happpy> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1oic8bl1mtr3ggb/happy%20%20map.sav 23:44:47 <irolldice> are we doing round 2 of new map 23:47:11 <coopserver> *** irolldice has joined 23:47:12 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 23:47:40 <happpy> heem nop i just try to find a way so it just say happy map not like this 23:47:55 <happpy> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1oic8bl1mtr3ggb/happy%20%20map.sav?dl=0 23:48:03 <happpy> dont get it 23:48:13 <happpy> eney way 23:48:54 <coopserver> <happy train sport> we mite not get a new map irolldice in till the problem is fixs 23:49:20 <irolldice> i thought anon already figured out the problem 23:50:09 <happpy> will he can try a map to mor but i shor it will doo the same thin 23:51:57 <happpy> mite be the server need grf or sume thin like thast ferst not shor 23:52:17 <coopserver> <irolldice> hmm 23:52:21 <happpy> up date for them or sume thin 23:53:13 <happpy> eeny way not much can be dun now have to wate to mor and try a gen 23:54:33 <coopserver> *** irolldice has left the game (Leaving) 23:54:34 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:54:37 <happpy> the prblem is <irolldice> ERROR: Game Load Failed, Broken savegame - Inconsistent size 23:54:42 <irolldice> i saw yeah 23:54:54 <irolldice> i thought that ransom determined that was because of the way dropbox serves files 23:54:56 <happpy> thats the problem 23:55:06 <irolldice> anson* 23:55:11 <happpy> yer i think 23:55:15 <irolldice> so all we need to do is upload it via another method? 23:55:26 <happpy> heem 23:55:37 <happpy> but wich won 23:55:52 <irolldice> give me the link to the save again 23:56:02 <happpy> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1oic8bl1mtr3ggb/happy%20%20map.sav?dl=0 23:56:13 <irolldice> 404'd 23:56:42 <happpy> ar wate 23:57:04 <happpy> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1oic8bl1mtr3ggb/happy%20%20map.sav?dl=0 23:57:30 <irolldice> 404 again 23:58:17 <happpy> https://www.dropbox.com/s/co0owraq722d055/happy%20%20map%20sav?dl=0