Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 27th July 2019:
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03:01:47  <coopserver> <valis> Good morning
03:02:01  <coopserver> <Berkel> hi. thx. also a great day ;)
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05:59:49  <coopserver> <valis> bad planning :)
05:59:54  <coopserver> <Arcene> what
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06:00:06  <coopserver> <Arcene> what happened
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06:01:00  <coopserver> <valis> I'm going to get out of it somehow
06:01:08  <coopserver> <Arcene> what is it valis
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06:15:07  <coopserver> <Arcene> hmm that was a miscalculation
06:15:22  <coopserver> <Arcene> my trains are still moving to the pickup
06:18:17  <coopserver> <Arcene> valis how do u build an overflow
06:18:21  <coopserver> <Arcene> just asking
06:18:33  <coopserver> <Arcene> i only know the basic overflow rn
06:18:54  <coopserver> <Arcene> oh lol u built the same overflow as me
06:19:26  <coopserver> <Arcene> ah shit
06:19:48  <coopserver> <Arcene> thanks to a slight error XD
06:20:28  <coopserver> <Arcene> meh ill jsut sell 2 trains first
06:21:14  <coopserver> <valis> I'm sorry, but I'm not able to translate it, I don't know much English. I just understand what you're writing, but it's hard to answer
06:21:23  <coopserver> <Arcene> oh
06:21:28  <coopserver> <Arcene> its ok then
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06:33:17  <coopserver> <Arcene> yo valis are u able to teach me a little on rails?
06:33:39  <coopserver> <Arcene> i know bbhs, slh, simple prios, basic overflows XD
06:34:25  <coopserver> <Arcene> ?
06:34:28  <coopserver> <Arcene> nvm then
06:34:50  <coopdiscord> <Arcene> Talking to myself
06:34:53  <coopdiscord> <Arcene> Wee
06:37:05  <coopserver> <Arcene> valis do u need help XD im bored
06:37:51  <coopserver> <Arcene> bruh why is my station rating decreasing
06:38:24  <coopserver> <valis> it somehow handles :D
06:38:32  <coopserver> <Arcene> hehe
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06:38:49  <coopserver> <Arcene> im bankcrupt again
06:38:54  <coopserver> <Arcene> bankrupt
06:42:08  <coopserver> <Arcene> hey valis u interested in playing on
06:43:07  <coopserver> <valis> I would start again, but I don't know the delete command anymore
06:43:19  <coopserver> <Arcene> i think its reset
06:43:31  <coopserver> <Arcene> why do u need to start again>?
06:44:34  <coopserver> <valis> it is hard to plan when someone else puts it in the track
06:44:55  <coopserver> <Arcene> is my station blocking u
06:45:20  <coopserver> <valis> Later yes
06:45:28  <coopserver> <Arcene> hmm i can remove it
06:46:10  <coopserver> <valis> to stand up from outside
06:46:21  <coopserver> <Arcene> ill move my station downwards a little how about that
06:46:39  <coopserver> <Arcene> ah
06:47:01  <coopserver> <Arcene> thx i got it
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06:51:03  <coopserver> <Arcene> it costs so much to tunnel
06:51:05  <coopserver> <Arcene> fp
06:51:44  <coopserver> <valis> I'll be back soon, she came to visit
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07:17:52  <coopserver> <valis> I don't like how I started :D
07:17:57  <coopserver> <Arcene> ok i see
07:20:27  <coopserver> <valis> reset me
07:20:32  <coopserver> <valis> :)
07:20:40  <coopserver> <Arcene> im not a admin
07:20:48  <coopserver> <valis> !reset
07:21:19  <coopserver> <valis> I'll delete it manually
07:21:44  <coopserver> <Arcene> smth is odd with my junction XD
07:28:30  <coopserver> <Arcene> wow valis
07:29:10  <coopserver> <valis> I will not lose money :D
07:29:19  <coopserver> <Arcene> XD
07:35:12  <coopserver> <valis> That's when you want everything and now :D
07:35:27  <coopserver> <Arcene> haha ok
07:35:35  <coopserver> <Arcene> im gna continue later
07:35:49  <coopserver> <Arcene> if any jams happen u join my companny and fix it can?
07:35:57  <coopserver> <Arcene> my pass is Happpy
07:36:03  <coopserver> <Arcene> thx
07:36:06  <coopserver> <valis> I'll be everywhere again :D
07:36:16  <coopserver> <Arcene> XD
07:37:59  <coopserver> <Arcene> 180 tonne production XD
07:38:04  <coopserver> <Arcene> lets get that to 2200
07:38:34  <coopserver> <valis> UFOs arrive and you have nothing XD
07:38:39  <coopserver> <Arcene> lel
07:39:56  <coopserver> <Arcene> why is my train not upgrading
07:41:01  <coopserver> <valis> would you choose the wrong group?
07:41:08  <coopserver> <Arcene> i dont group
07:41:27  <coopserver> <Arcene> im trying to change strong to medium
07:41:50  <coopserver> <Arcene> ok now they are changing
07:41:53  <coopserver> <Arcene> takes time i guess
07:41:58  <coopserver> <Arcene> bbl
07:43:31  <coopserver> <valis> I guess I should have something to earn :)
07:51:17  <coopserver> <valis> that purr looks nice
07:51:24  <coopserver> <Arcene> XD
07:51:28  <coopserver> <Arcene> didnt u use purr too
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08:57:15  <coopserver> <nirasa1957> hi
08:57:22  <coopserver> <valis> hi
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10:12:27  <happpy>  @logs
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10:14:51  <happpy> !players
10:14:51  <coopserver> happpy: The server is empty, no one is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation
10:17:09  <happpy> hi how game going
10:21:38  <happpy> !date
10:21:38  <coopserver> Jan 17 1943
10:22:11  <happpy> morning arcene
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11:33:33  <happpy> hi
11:33:42  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> hi
11:33:49  <happpy> how the game going
11:34:00  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> sloow
11:34:18  <happpy> yeah i am not play this time
11:34:32  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> too spass?
11:34:56  <happpy> no i doont have time to do a network
11:35:09  <happpy> going fishing for 2 days
11:35:17  <happpy> so no time
11:35:44  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> hope you catch some biggins
11:36:39  <happpy> yeah
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11:44:49  <happpy> we need more  players to make  new maps
11:45:22  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> hopw many are in archive?
11:46:03  <happpy> because its  all old maps from the map list
11:46:34  <happpy> and its gets bord all the time
11:47:32  <happpy> the problem is  i can make a maps but got  nothing to uploaded whive
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11:55:42  <coopserver> <macguest> hi nomotak :)
11:55:42  <happpy> hi
11:55:47  <coopserver> <macguest> and hi happy :)
11:55:55  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> hi mac
11:56:07  <happpy> how things going
11:56:27  <coopserver> <macguest> happy its ok .. just wonder if you like players that use excessive station spreads etc tho? :)
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11:56:58  <happpy> hmm
11:57:21  <happpy> has longe its not blocking players
11:57:28  <happpy> then ok
11:58:11  <coopserver> <macguest> heh ok .. he's doing like 40 tiles with lazy trains .. and for some reason he feel like he has to box my spaces but .. I'll see if he will stop being deaf next time he comes online tho so no worry for now
12:02:32  <coopserver> <macguest> I still wonder who set the map originally to 64 spread .. that seem reckless .. but ah .. who knows who the actual creator was :P
12:03:16  <happpy> i can change it
12:03:35  <coopserver> <macguest> if you want to .. that might stop any further damages after all
12:03:49  <happpy> !rcon set station_spread 16
12:03:57  <happpy> dun
12:05:19  <coopserver> <macguest> nomotak so are you having any fun too?
12:05:52  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> when it comes to micro junctions i nvr get enuf
12:06:42  <coopserver> <macguest> your...'artwork' at lunway is rather interesting :)
12:07:17  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> its based from japanese designs :)
12:10:54  <coopserver> <macguest> nomotak hmm just had to wonder but you ever played with the japan trainset grf before?
12:11:13  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> little
12:12:25  <coopserver> <macguest> me at times too .. its sometimes a little repeative with many similar emu's etc but I still like the overall aspect of it tho
12:12:44  <coopserver> <macguest> not to mention that I have an actual model train set of the 'romance car' train itself too :p
12:13:15  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> what scale?
12:13:27  <coopserver> <macguest> tomytec .. so its N scale
12:13:43  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> power to the 9
12:13:48  <coopserver> <macguest> hehe :)
12:14:14  <coopserver> <macguest> I'm curious about the bullet series 0 but .. of corse space for the train length itself is a bit of an issue :)
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12:14:47  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> 9mm comes with little to worry about
12:14:53  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> its what 1.3m?
12:15:21  <coopserver> <macguest> haha well when you have a small layout the 'big' trains can seem a little overpowering ... one major reason why I sold off much of the older usa trains :)
12:16:07  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> if yopu want top quality for any region go with Kato
12:16:20  <coopserver> <macguest> I'm thinking of the bandai bullet train that I see is available at one of the store here for as long as the limited 3 stocks lasts :)
12:16:35  <coopserver> <macguest> its one of their b-train series .. so 20 wagons but still very short :)
12:17:00  <coopserver> <macguest> and just for the footnote I already have three of these older series 'kato pocketline' trains ... not very realistic but they are very cute
12:17:24  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> i started with  a 4-car class 233-3000
12:17:26  <coopserver> <macguest> kato still sells the pocketline steam set .. just with a different paint than the original one
12:18:10  <coopserver> <macguest> 233 .. the E233 for commuters?
12:18:16  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> poket lines really for the younger toy person
12:18:19  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> yup
12:18:30  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> very pricey.....
12:18:46  <coopserver> <macguest> well the pocketline does have a bit of real life basis tho .. theres actually one city with a few mini 0-4-0T's running down the street
12:19:03  <coopserver> <macguest> but otherwise yes you're right the wagons/etc are kept basic for as a child's trainset
12:19:31  <coopserver> <macguest> a little like what marklin is now doing with their "play" trainsets .. theres almost no details to them .. and odd chassis lengths too
12:19:44  <coopserver> <macguest> at least kato's doesn't look weird
12:19:49  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> and hornby
12:20:28  <coopserver> <macguest> mmm hornby .. I used to have a tad bit of these before but due to the odd mismatch I eventually just sold them off for the best tho :)
12:20:52  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> good :)
12:20:58  <coopserver> <macguest> nothing like watching an emd geep hauling five MKII coaches :P
12:21:08  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> hornby arnold is meh
12:21:16  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> lol
12:21:35  <coopserver> <macguest> well arnold used to be (although I dunno what its like nowaday) your de facto source for most european N trains back then
12:21:46  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> correct
12:21:50  <coopserver> <macguest> now theres many companies around
12:21:51  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> i have some
12:22:08  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> exceptional then ... crap now
12:22:27  <coopserver> <macguest> I have a bit of fleischmann mix too (including two very old green/red hopper cars .. no real life basis to them afaik)
12:23:07  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> im trying to save to get fleishmann and mtrix
12:23:41  <coopserver> <macguest> much of my N additionals in last few years has been from consignments or garages just for the record :)
12:24:08  <coopserver> <macguest> the romance trainset was only 0 but came with the original package box and everything .. and the flanges didn't seem to have much wear at all on them (so like-new yeah)
12:24:41  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> thats pretty good
12:25:21  <coopserver> <macguest> yeah and even one of these usa diesel (that I still love) for  when I would had to pay over 0 from the catalog otherwise
12:25:39  <coopserver> <macguest> you want know what it is? :)
12:26:04  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> emd?
12:27:10  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> whats yoour favourite us loco?
12:27:21  <coopserver> <macguest> fairbanks-morse :)
12:28:05  <coopserver> <macguest> 'tranmaster' aka H-24-66 .. it was another opposed-piston lok (beside the infamous uk Deltic) .. with its own history
12:28:33  <coopserver> <macguest> basically when emd only could provide like 1700hp with a large engine .. FM was providing 2400hp in a smaller body ... their slogan was "same train at faster speed or bigger train at same speed"
12:28:49  <coopserver> <macguest> the market sadly was not completely into the concept so FM eventually crashed :-/
12:29:22  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> hmm
12:29:45  <coopserver> <macguest> at least a bit over 120 of these were sold so ... fair is fair
12:29:59  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> phew
12:30:35  <coopserver> <macguest> I also amusingly enough managed to buy the one that is painted for canada too .. these were very rare as only 2 were sold in canada compared to with usa
12:31:00  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> O.O
12:31:12  <coopserver> <macguest> I should also point out that canada also only had one single emd E unit .. they prefer F units
12:31:25  <coopserver> <macguest> the single E unit not surprisingly was co-purchased for a usa-canada passenger route
12:31:51  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> that still going?
12:31:55  <coopserver> <macguest> history can be funny I guess :)
12:32:00  <coopserver> <macguest> nope .. old and gone :)
12:32:56  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> do u live nearby railway lines?
12:33:00  <coopserver> <macguest> nomotak but anyway about japan .. I always thought the 50's fashion with some of their old electric trainsets was a little unusual .. you know .. the long round nose with these chromed headlight buldges etc
12:34:11  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> thats what made them sparkle
12:34:57  <coopserver> <macguest> :)
12:35:24  <coopserver> <macguest> and btw you know these japan trains with the driver-only dome at both ends (and often housing a multi-train nose door too) ?
12:35:42  <coopserver> <macguest> north america had one for a while (lived longer in canada not surprisingly) .. by the name 'uac turbotrain'
12:36:07  <coopserver> <macguest> although for some reason neither country actually utilized the nose doors .. it was eventually basically just a crash-protection decoration
12:36:16  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> hey iv hearrd of that via Trainz
12:36:21  <coopserver> <macguest> (canada did one time test a 2-train MU but it was not a passenger run tho)
12:36:36  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> bum
12:37:11  <coopserver> <macguest> nomotak so anyway yeah it had a good reputation in canada later on but the problem was mainly political ... told via to stop spending more money on the turbotrains and buy a bunch of new ex-europe coaches
12:37:34  <coopserver> <macguest> guess what happened? the coaches had a lot of problems in service (include icing up doors!) making them very expensive to run for some time
12:37:40  <coopserver> <macguest> talk about stupid gov :-s
12:37:59  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> why not us or local? its common sense
12:38:23  <coopserver> <macguest> right .. politics never can use common sense a lot of the times both before and today :-s
12:38:36  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> thats trhe same here too
12:38:46  <coopserver> <macguest> bombardier even tried provide their 'jettrain' concept for the toronto-quebec corridor service at one point .. but politics didn't want to support it
12:38:54  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> bought chiunese locos (DL)
12:39:17  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> those arrived with aesphestos
12:39:21  <coopdiscord> <Arcene> ?
12:39:24  <coopdiscord> <Arcene> Whats happening
12:40:11  <coopserver> <macguest> I think you meant to spell 'aebatos' .. and yeah let me tell you something: quebec still mines these for exporting .. and several times the citizens have tried to subpoem the quebec gov to halt these mines but .. ughhh yeah these mines are still running
12:40:32  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> bombardier emus for akl almost happpened :(
12:41:33  <coopserver> <macguest> also there was that one where the HST diesel train from uk was purchased for australia (partially by the gov not surprisingly) ....
12:41:59  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> oh yes ... the so called apt
12:42:08  <coopserver> <macguest> they had to be derated quite a bit .. and bigger coolants etc reworkedin ... both before they could ever make a reasonable run through the hot australia weathers
12:43:21  <coopserver> <macguest> btw the apt is a different one ....
12:44:04  <coopserver> <macguest> basically the apt started as a project but by the time it was starting to run both into budget overrun and politic interference (especially over overhead wires) the diesel HST was quietly given a bigger go-ahead .. and thats how the latter managed to happen
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12:44:22  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> which one was the aus ver?
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12:44:26  <coopserver> <macguest> the hst was a lot cheaper to 'promise' mainly due to no overhead wires needed
12:44:36  <coopserver> <macguest> oh the aus ... well it was named X200 I think .. let me recheck on that one sec
12:44:40  <coopserver> <Vinnie> hey
12:44:45  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> only after hst225
12:45:14  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> hi vinnie
12:45:23  <coopserver> <macguest> oh the australia hst was renamed New South Wales XPT
12:45:43  <coopserver> <macguest> the name was supposed to meant eXpress Passenger Train not surprisingly
12:45:58  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> :eye roll:
12:46:06  <coopserver> <macguest> btw nomotak about names ...
12:46:20  <coopserver> <macguest> its funny that germany being a deutsche country .. they still used english name for their own infamous train ..
12:46:29  <coopserver> <macguest> ICE is short for InterCity Express
12:47:23  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> cant be helped i guess
12:47:28  <coopserver> <macguest> :)
12:47:37  <coopserver> <macguest> btw nomotek theres one interesting thing about the ICE tho ..
12:47:59  <coopserver> <macguest> for a short time one of the ICE-1 trainset was shipped to amtrak (and even lightly reletter so, kept the original white/red livery tho)
12:48:17  <coopserver> <macguest> it was for testing purpose re new designs ... which eventually was how the Acela trainset finally came to be
12:48:33  <coopserver> <macguest> even sweden sent two of their own things to usa too
12:49:11  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> wow :)
12:49:39  <coopserver> <macguest> one sec..
12:51:34  <coopserver> <macguest> yeah it was the 'SJ Rc4' that was sent to amtrak .. and eventually became EMD AEM-7 design
12:52:11  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> ah
12:52:28  <coopserver> <macguest> and of course its not only passengers ...
12:54:05  <coopserver> <macguest> look up the Krauss-Maffei ML4000 .. basically Southern Pacific was tired of not being able to get enough hp from emd so they went oversea and this was what happened ... these KM units were very stiff at first but eventually over time mainentance troubles and emd's high-hp offerins altogether spelled the abrupt end of any KM diesels
12:55:08  <coopserver> <macguest> oh great .. yeah now yellow is really getting in my way ... hrm ...
12:55:52  <coopserver> <macguest> guess I won't be able to build anything more for a while now...
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12:56:09  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> the gp9 variant i have heard of
12:56:52  <coopserver> <macguest> btw nomotak theres also one more thing that was a bit unique to Southern Pacific too...
12:57:06  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> ?
12:57:10  <coopserver> <macguest> slow heavy freight throguh tunnel = easy to overheat the engine from hot air ...
12:57:28  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> no good
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12:57:33  <coopserver> <macguest> the eventual solution? redirect the engine to pick up cooler air from at chassis height rather than (by default) from the roof :)
12:57:48  <coopserver> <macguest> and thats how the SD40T-2 came to be .. T was basically short for Tunnelmotors
12:58:37  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> simple
13:00:12  <coopserver> <macguest> nomotak btw before I forget ...
13:00:25  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> yes
13:00:46  <coopserver> <macguest> there were some electric locomotives that were suppose to ship to russia but then the embargo happened .. so many of them ended up being rewired and sold for cheaper to both milwaukee and South Line altogether ...
13:01:01  <coopserver> <macguest> so you had the 'little joe' (which was a huge heavy electric locomotive heh) among a few other unusual types
13:02:19  <coopserver> <macguest> the 'little joe' was meant for 3300vdc soviet .. but was rewired to both 3000v on milwaukee and 1500v on south ... they were rated to 5000hp nevertheless
13:02:52  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> thats a lot of power
13:03:25  <coopserver> <macguest> yeah well you have to remember that russia is about infrequent heavy trains with the long distances in mind :)
13:03:55  <coopserver> <macguest> hence thats why they had a lot of these (and many are still running) old drab-green 2-unit and 3-unit boxes .. both diesel and electric
13:05:32  <coopserver> <macguest> btw the english spelling of russia locomotive names not surprisingly hints to how many of them were 2 or 3 unit models
13:05:51  <coopserver> <macguest> 3TE10M for example .. which is a 3-units one :)
13:06:02  <coopserver> <macguest> or take the middle out? its 2TE10M .. heh
13:06:19  <coopserver> <macguest> single units were more than often more 'local' locomotives .. such as for shunting etc
13:06:50  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> good ol russian naming
13:07:06  <coopserver> <macguest> and don't forget russia doesn't use 4ft either :P
13:07:34  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> 5"3' isnt it
13:07:37  <coopserver> <macguest> yep
13:08:06  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> is that the way to write imperial?
13:08:18  <coopserver> <macguest> think so .. I can't recall well .. metric here ;)
13:08:37  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> oh thank goodness
13:08:39  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> :)
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13:08:56  <coopserver> <macguest> only usa and some of their related country is imperial afaik :)
13:09:18  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> thats the size of the first line in christchurch, 5"3
13:09:26  <coopserver> <macguest> heh
13:09:34  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> and uk
13:09:43  <coopserver> <macguest> uk = Great Western no?
13:10:06  <coopserver> <macguest> that explains why even after having to be regaged GW still could run larger locomotives themselves due to the extra clearance they had originally built for
13:10:12  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> brunel
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13:13:59  <coopserver> <macguest> nomotak btw japan's choice of gauge was originally influenced by britian if you didn't know that
13:14:22  <coopserver> <macguest> in short british wanted sell a lot of their 'colony trains' and japan's country somehow was perfect for that
13:14:34  <coopserver> <macguest> the colony trains not surprisingly were 3ft .. rest is history
13:14:56  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> thats what their SL C is based on
13:15:03  <coopdiscord> <Arcene> ?
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13:21:52  <coopserver> <macguest> nomotak there is one very unusual extra-wide gauge.,..
13:21:56  <coopserver> <macguest> something like 8ft or 9ft ...
13:22:08  <coopserver> <macguest> its sole purpose? its a boat carrying ramp railway
13:22:26  <coopserver> <macguest> talk about being the only one place where boats are moved up and down not by locks but by rails
13:22:36  <coopserver> <macguest> I forgot where it was at now tho :)
13:23:33  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> there used to be a 16" sea ferry service at the white cliffs of dover
13:24:58  <coopserver> <macguest> and of course don't forget the interesting could-had-been WWII thing ...
13:25:23  <coopserver> <macguest> german wanted to build a super-railroad .. it basically was two standard tracks parallel to create a dual-gauge thing .. with a few very huge trains planned for
13:25:41  <coopserver> <macguest> one museum has actual models of what could had been
13:25:43  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> thoseare still in place around germany and austria
13:25:59  <coopserver> <macguest> the artworks showed the trains to be like oh about 20ft tall .. crazy to think
13:26:21  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> think that might be hamburg museum
13:27:35  <coopserver> <macguest> and well nothing too special about it but if you want odd looking steam locomotives .. just ask the italy people
13:28:09  <coopserver> <macguest> them and their cermaic-based feedwater reheaters .. one or two external tubes slanted on both sides of boiler .. and more than often theres no normal smokestack to be seen anymore
13:29:04  <coopserver> <macguest> they tried license it to uk at one point but it was found to be uneconomical (the tested? 9F's with a smaller boiler due to loading clearance compromise)
13:29:53  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> 9fs are legendary for haul cap
13:30:11  <coopserver> <macguest> and not to mention that Southern was crazy with them for a little bit
13:30:27  <coopserver> <macguest> running express trains behind a 9F ... at high speed ... the track wear must had been crazy
13:30:35  <coopserver> <macguest> :-p
13:31:18  <coopserver> <macguest> I kinda like the ivatt locomotives .. they had that simple not-supersized look to them .. but to our own tho
13:31:51  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> look up the nzr h class
13:32:25  <coopserver> <macguest> thats an interesting boxy-looking tank :)
13:32:34  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> :)
13:32:36  <coopserver> <macguest> actually that reminds me I know of a small very weird one you may like .. one sec ..
13:32:50  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> 6 locos to 1 train consist
13:33:31  <coopserver> <macguest> 6 .. is that some steep mountain line?
13:33:44  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> yep
13:33:59  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> 12+%
13:36:32  <coopserver> <macguest> btw its 'obb 3071' (or 'bbo dt 1' as per ... it doesn't exactly look steam but its not diesel/electric either :)
13:37:13  <coopserver> <macguest> and the window-ful box behind the cab? thats supposed to be a conductor cab .. don't ask me :P
13:37:16  <coopserver> <macguest> very weird lok indeed
13:41:02  <coopserver> <macguest> hope you didn't confuse yourself too much looking at that ... thing :)
13:42:07  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> its a war loco
13:46:08  <coopserver> <macguest> at least if you wanted talk about war there is always the class 52 and alike
13:46:15  <coopserver> <macguest> simple rugged 2-10-0's made in huge numbers
13:46:45  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> those are insane
13:49:09  <coopserver> <macguest> anyway...
13:49:27  <coopserver> <macguest> see sign with your name on it .. I'm wondering if you want these two diamond mines?
13:50:36  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> dunno yet
13:52:03  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> u can take 1 if u want
13:52:12  <coopserver> <macguest> nah I'll look for something else :)
13:59:42  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> mac, have ypu seen the sbb e3/3
14:00:32  <coopserver> <macguest> cute little siderod with unequal hood lengths :)
14:04:05  <coopserver> <macguest> about sbb ... one moment ..
14:04:28  <coopserver> <macguest> ce 6/8 anyone? :P
14:04:43  <coopserver> <macguest> <likes the metre one better tho
14:05:14  <coopserver> <macguest> <<ironically has an E94 here ;)
14:07:14  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> do u have one?
14:07:22  <coopserver> <macguest> yeah
14:07:28  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> work?
14:07:32  <coopserver> <macguest> model :P
14:07:34  <coopserver> <macguest> hehehe
14:07:45  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> does it run
14:08:12  <coopserver> <macguest> actually I forgot if its a E93 or E94 but theres actually one old one still in modern cuty today (managed by a female engineer no less) ...
14:08:21  <coopserver> <macguest> its used as a banking locomotive not surprisingly
14:08:28  <coopserver> <macguest> cuty=duty*
14:08:40  <coopserver> <macguest> and yes my model does work
14:08:48  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> nice
14:09:00  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> i got a e88
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14:09:35  <coopserver> <macguest> I still kinda like that one odd middle-power emu from germany too tho .. just dunno about a model yet ..
14:09:41  <coopserver> <macguest> let me see what the name was again ..
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14:10:40  <coopserver> <macguest> hi berkel
14:10:57  <coopserver> <Berkel> Hi
14:11:04  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> id better head to bed
14:11:11  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> its 210am
14:11:17  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> gn
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17:02:03  <coopdiscord> <Arcene>
17:02:06  <coopdiscord> <Arcene> How this look happpy
17:04:21  <happpy> good thanks
17:04:24  <happpy> good
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17:22:43  <coopdiscord> <Arcene> Im growing my copper production
17:22:52  <coopdiscord> <Arcene> Hope to hit 2000 tonnes of output on 4 stations
17:27:38  <happpy> goodluck whive that
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19:28:45  <happpy> !players
19:28:45  <coopserver> happpy: The server is empty, no one is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation
19:28:50  <happpy> !date
19:28:50  <coopserver> Apr 29 1957
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21:35:04  <coopserver> <macguest> hi sleepless ;-)
21:35:10  <coopserver> <macguest> just on for bit before starting supper here :)
21:35:18  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> morn mac
21:35:32  <coopserver> <macguest> morning? its 17:36 you funny player :P
21:35:34  <coopserver> <macguest> hehehe
21:35:34  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> 22 hrs is pretty good :)
21:35:45  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> 935am
21:44:45  <coopserver> <macguest> btw that thing about foreign trains...
21:44:57  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> yes
21:45:43  <coopserver> <macguest> there was also the A3 (or did I recall wrong A class?) that took unusual trip 'around the world' .. literally visited both australia and north america .. sadly came to a military-stored end in usa due to no money left but apparently it eventually was funded back to uk to be restored tho
21:46:08  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> the a3 flying scotsman
21:46:09  <coopserver> <macguest> kinda funny to see the locomotive in canada .. it had usa-style bell added to boiler top .. aside to the electric headlight and the knuckle coupler
21:46:13  <coopserver> <macguest> yeah :)
21:46:30  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> that was an ugly addition imo
21:46:50  <coopserver> <macguest> well it was necessary for 'normal line running' nevertheless
21:47:48  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> when it was over in aus it required a lower pittch whistle too
21:47:50  <coopserver> <macguest> btw one interesting thing not many people perhaps knew after all ...
21:48:42  <coopserver> <macguest> a lot of north america locomotives were exported to uk for WWII .. but there were a few that never got the chance to (in 1945) .. and a shortline bought up one of these to run "next to the normal cousin" ..
21:49:23  <coopserver> <macguest> so you had like a 2-6-2 and 'same' 2-6-2 next to each others .. except the latter one had a rather squat boiler with humpy-like running boards down the side and a cut-down head-rubbing roof :)
21:49:32  <coopserver> <macguest> guess which one was meant to go to uk :P
21:50:20  <coopserver> <macguest> at least the war locomotives meant for europe (rather than uk) more or less retained their normal loading sizes
21:50:56  <coopserver> <macguest> anyway have to afk for a while .. may be back after eating if you're still around too :)
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21:51:14  <coopserver> <Nomotakat> im going out in 20
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22:36:22  <coopserver> <macguest> hi there
22:36:26  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> hello
22:36:48  <coopserver> <macguest> have fun here ok? :)
22:36:57  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> hopefully i will c:
22:37:08  <coopserver> <macguest> and don't mind yellow... still waiting for him to return and hop ehe's not deaf to the gamerules (so far still not seen him again)
22:37:23  <coopserver> <macguest> but anyway ... its not hard to get started .. just don't build a extra-long route at first :P
22:37:32  <coopserver> <macguest> and first thing of all: do not touch the terraform tools too much :)
22:37:36  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> got it :p
22:37:41  <coopserver> <macguest> the water tile would give you a big price shocker :P
22:38:22  <coopserver> <macguest> just pick any body of water .. and ctrl+click the raise tool there ... wheeee? :P
22:38:33  <coopserver> <macguest> hmm or shift+click .. I always forget which is which
22:38:36  <coopserver> <macguest> you get the thoughts tho
22:38:41  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> i do indeed
22:38:56  <coopserver> <macguest> and btw in case you are not used to this sort of topic maps...
22:39:18  <coopserver> <macguest> the water goes to these little hex-shaped red water towers  (unlike the original non-openttd water source)
22:39:36  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> oh i knew
22:39:53  <coopserver> <macguest> np .. some players seem to get a bit lost by this so I wanted be sure :)
22:40:12  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> im mostly joining cos someone on youtube said to
22:40:43  <coopserver> <macguest> ah well its easy to play on your own too ... although that *other* openttd server requires everyone to join a sinngle mega-company
22:41:07  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> mega companies sound nice but also not at the same time
22:41:27  <coopserver> <macguest> true .. for me I like independent as I'm not into wild high-capacity junctions or abusing signals everywhere etc :)
22:42:00  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> i mean on a singleplayer game im doing ive got like all the iron ore mines hooked up to one steel mill so that's pretty spaghetti
22:42:08  <coopserver> <macguest> heh I can imagine :)
22:42:22  <coopserver> <macguest> I have seen screenshots of these "everything to one single secondary industry" games
22:42:34  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> it is pretty nuts i will admit
22:42:56  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> because my train i send the steel to from the factory keeps waiting at the station for steel
22:42:58  <coopserver> <macguest> heh .. well anyway I'm off for a bit so see you later or another timing ok? :)
22:43:07  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> oh yeah! seeya then if i do
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23:10:23  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> heyo
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23:12:22  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> dang
23:20:35  <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients)
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23:20:44  <coopserver> <macguest> back for a bit again :)
23:20:47  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> hello again!
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23:20:52  <coopserver> <macguest> :-p
23:22:44  <coopserver> <macguest> nice little company you've got going now
23:22:51  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> yep
23:25:03  <coopserver> <Garyinurgarage> i think i myself will be heading off now, nice to see someone so nice about my tiny company :p
23:25:12  <coopserver> <macguest> ok see you another time and bye ;)
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