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00:01:34 *** Gussoh [n=gussoh@user9.82-197-255.netatonce.net] has joined #openttd 00:05:36 *** CobraA2 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:07:02 <Sacro> quiet in here tonight 00:07:06 *** CobraA2 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 00:07:15 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 00:07:24 <Richk67> coding 00:07:32 <Sacro> anything cool? 00:07:42 <Richk67> more airports 00:08:05 <Sacro> nice one, thats looking quite good 00:08:55 <Richk67> ive done the type 3b ext, in both N/S, and W-E 00:09:05 <Richk67> and im just testing the new helistation 00:09:26 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176126227.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 00:09:50 <Sacro> nice, im just listening to music, playing on Brianettas Nightly and thinking 00:12:53 *** Qrrbrbirlbel_ [i=Q@p54A7F684.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:14:51 <Richk67> cool - an airport that worked first time :) 00:15:20 <Vornicus> woohoo 00:16:33 <Richk67> the helistation is the helicopter section of the type 3b. its a bit like cut/paste, then join up the loose ends :) 00:18:51 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit ["Leaving."] 00:18:59 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50c79af1.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:21:03 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176109137.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:30:52 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [i=Q@p54A7F684.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:36:25 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176126227.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 00:37:43 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:38:48 <Tobin> Morning all. 00:39:05 <Sacro> morning Tobin 00:53:51 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:59:30 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:59:41 *** Qrrbrbirlbel_ [i=Q@p54A7F684.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["http://mir.ist-langweilig.de/oh_man.jpg/"] 01:00:32 <Richk67> gn 01:00:37 *** Richk67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 01:10:55 <Tobin> "http://mir.ist-langweilig.de/oh_man.jpg/" <-- Hehe. The trailing slash is bit of a give-away though. 01:19:28 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B7396E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:20:50 *** bp0 [i=pburt0@watertownDHCP-2.216-254-231.iw.net] has joined #openttd 01:27:56 <Sacro> gn all 01:28:26 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77BD3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:33:58 *** Sacro [i=Ben@adsl-83-100-155-252.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["Sacro has no reason"] 01:50:17 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:59:41 *** DjViper- [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has joined #Openttd 02:00:02 *** DjViper [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:00:36 *** DjViper- is now known as DjViper 02:00:59 *** bp0 [i=pburt0@watertownDHCP-2.216-254-231.iw.net] has left #openttd [] 02:07:57 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp83-237-234-151.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 02:13:57 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-201-090.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! It was you wasn't it!?"] 02:24:17 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable254.254-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 02:40:45 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 03:11:29 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@81.213.71.68] has joined #openttd 03:22:48 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:47:03 <peter1138> morning 03:53:19 *** dp__ [n=dp@p54B2CBC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:09:28 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2E388.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:09:29 *** dp__ is now known as dp-- 04:49:37 <peter1138> hmm 05:00:03 *** sijmen [n=sijmen@h45058.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 05:00:37 *** sijmen [n=sijmen@h45058.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 05:06:37 <Celestar> morning 05:08:10 <Tron> *yawn* 05:16:49 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@81.213.71.68] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:19:16 * peter1138 ponders the best place for newgrf network server/client stuff 05:27:52 <peter1138> i know... 05:27:55 <peter1138> the network code ;p 05:32:12 <Celestar> cu later peops 05:32:15 <CIA-5> celestar * r4246 /trunk/ (13 files): -Codechange. Replaced about 100 occurences of '16' by TILE_SIZE 05:51:31 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 05:53:06 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.104.145.68] has joined #openttd 06:02:48 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3D9C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 06:02:54 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3D9C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:03:00 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-083-102-071-182.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 06:08:52 *** Alltaken [n=chatzill@blender/artist/allTaken] has joined #openttd 06:13:42 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:19:15 *** zen-- [n=zen@88-196-42-171-dsl.noe.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 06:20:33 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.stb.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:23:02 <Tron> peter1138: newgrf.c:776 - wrong comment? 06:26:39 <peter1138> clearly so 06:29:31 <Naksu> Celestar: wanna bet someone is going to re-replace that at some point? 06:30:13 <Naksu> "replaces all occurences of TILE_SIZE by 16 to shorten the compiling time" 06:36:14 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:41:12 *** zen-- [n=zen@88-196-42-171-dsl.noe.estpak.ee] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:42:55 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-083-102-071-182.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 06:45:40 *** Alltaken [n=chatzill@blender/artist/allTaken] has quit [Connection timed out] 06:48:33 *** Alltaken [n=chatzill@blender/artist/allTaken] has joined #openttd 06:50:45 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has joined #openttd 06:51:56 <Celestar> Naksu: :P 06:52:18 *** zen-- [n=zen@193.40.194.197] has joined #openttd 06:58:04 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 07:04:16 *** sijmen [n=sijmen@h45058.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:04:38 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 07:08:54 *** zenj [n=zen@193.40.194.197] has joined #openttd 07:12:50 <zenj> wzp 07:16:18 *** zen-- [n=zen@193.40.194.197] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:17:01 <zenj> ? 07:17:42 *** zenj is now known as zen-- 07:18:26 *** Scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:19:54 <Fujitsu> Syntax error before "wzp". 07:21:05 *** Scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:27:23 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.stb.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:27:41 *** syf [i=syf@n28z22l200.broadband.ctm.net] has joined #openttd 07:27:59 *** syf [i=syf@n28z22l200.broadband.ctm.net] has left #openttd [] 07:39:48 *** jnmbk_ [n=jnmbk@85.104.145.68] has joined #openttd 07:41:14 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.104.145.68] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:46:01 <peter1138> hmm 07:50:37 *** FauxFaux [n=faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 07:50:57 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x53588af2.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 07:51:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 07:51:04 <peter1138> Bjarni! 07:51:07 <Bjarni> peter1138: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=425066#425066 07:51:15 <peter1138> why do you spread such lies and deception? 07:51:16 <Bjarni> any idea what this is all about? 07:51:33 <Bjarni> lies? 07:51:45 <peter1138> LoadGrfindexed() is used to load the standard data files 07:51:53 <peter1138> 00:21 <@Bjarni> <christooss> so I can't translate <-- that's right. None of us can :( 07:52:10 <Bjarni> that was about the online translator, that is down 07:52:20 <peter1138> the online translator is 07:53:07 <Bjarni> I'm still not aware of what you mean by <peter1138> why do you spread such lies and deception? 07:55:49 <Bjarni> peter1138: An assertion has failed and openttd must quit. LoadGrfindexed in gfxinit.c (line 88) "b" <-- any idea why this happens? 07:57:46 *** sijmen [n=sijmen@h45058.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:59:39 <peter1138> Bjarni: you can still translate... heh 07:59:48 <peter1138> Bjarni: usually bad data files 08:00:06 <Bjarni> I know, but I don't bother translating manually :p 08:03:08 <peter1138> yeah, ya lazy sod 08:27:05 *** TrueLight [n=kvirc@truelight.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:31:54 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #openttd [] 08:33:21 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:36:36 *** Cheery [n=Henri@a81-197-45-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:37:32 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["icebears... take care of them!"] 08:38:24 <CIA-5> truelight * r4247 /compile_farm/: -Add: add empty compile_farm dir to hold controller-script for the compile_farm 08:39:33 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:43:30 <CIA-5> truelight * r4248 /compile_farm/ (15 files in 8 dirs): -Add: add the controller-scripts for the compile-farm and the stuff for the nightlies 08:43:34 <TrueLight> okay, this should work... 08:44:42 <TrueLight> now the hard part, figure out the nightly script, because it got so stupid, you don't want to know :( 08:52:43 <Bjarni> generally stupidity of a script is equal to the stupidity of the script writer :p 08:52:53 <TrueLight> yup 08:52:59 <TrueLight> this was builded piece by piece 08:53:03 <TrueLight> adding more and more stuff on demand 08:53:11 <Bjarni> ahh 08:53:12 <TrueLight> now it is of a size I call incredible stupidity big 08:53:28 <Bjarni> just like the real life train signal system 08:54:00 <Bjarni> we got modern stuff and stuff that dates back to pre WW2 and like everything between 08:54:15 <Bjarni> and different generation signals do not speak well with each other :( 08:54:54 <peter1138> well you are a backward country 08:55:20 <Bjarni> it's not that 08:55:35 <Bjarni> it's just so expensive to replace so the politicians never decided to do it 08:56:07 <Bjarni> and it's not a safety issue, more like an issue, that can cause delays 09:00:16 <TrueLight> WARNING: broken nightly-stuff can be expected 09:03:11 <peter1138> no change there :) 09:03:29 <TrueLight> ? 09:05:21 <peter1138> well 09:05:28 <peter1138> it has been a couple of times 09:05:42 <TrueLight> I mean the devs dir doesn't work now 09:05:46 <TrueLight> and I need to move stuff around 09:05:46 <TrueLight> big time 09:05:49 <TrueLight> bah 09:05:51 <TrueLight> bah 09:05:54 <TrueLight> and yeah, again: bah :p 09:06:04 *** faari [i=arih@greippi.kas.tut.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:07:24 <CIA-5> celestar * r4249 /trunk/ (15 files): -Codechange: Replace more occurences of 16 by TILE_SIZE and of 8 by TILE_HEIGHT. Reverted one change from the previous commit because it was faulty 09:07:36 *** jnmbk_ is now known as jnmbk 09:19:36 <Celestar> Tron: any objections to newslotter? 09:19:37 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.104.145.68] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:19:37 *** jnmbk_ [n=jnmbk@85.104.145.68] has joined #openttd 09:20:06 *** jnmbk_ is now known as jnmbk 09:26:18 *** faari [i=arih@greippi.kas.tut.fi] has joined #openttd 09:26:50 <MiHaMiX> http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/picmonth/2005-03.jpg 09:27:50 <Vornicus> those cars are tilttastic. 09:28:03 <peter1138> wagons! 09:28:08 <peter1138> cars drive on roads! 09:28:10 <Vornicus> wagons. 09:28:12 <Vornicus> fine. 09:28:58 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.104.145.68] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:29:17 <Celestar> Vornicus: I have high hopes to commit newslotter today \o/ 09:29:33 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:29:35 <Vornicus> frankly when I hear the word wagon I think this: http://sites.buythisdesign.com/tng/acatalog/6547211_lg.gif 09:30:23 <Vornicus> Celestar: \o/ !!! 09:30:34 <Brianetta> Bah 09:30:42 <Brianetta> Stuck at wrk, with my wallet at home. 09:30:45 <Brianetta> Hungry for lunch. 09:30:53 <Vornicus> mooch! 09:31:04 <Vornicus> Mooch like a mooching thing! 09:31:10 <Vornicus> slep. 09:31:23 <Celestar> Vornicus: it's still much simpler than what we have now :)= 09:31:45 <Vornicus> too bad it still depends on loops. 09:31:46 <Celestar> 67 lines added vs 156 lines removed. 09:32:18 <Celestar> Vornicus: yes it does, but fewer loops 09:32:43 <Vornicus> I was watching the title screen run; sometimes buses entering the northwest corner of town will clog up and hunt for the nearest loop, which happens to be across the maglev and rail lines. 09:32:47 <Vornicus> *blooie* 09:32:59 <peter1138> hehe 09:33:03 <Vornicus> I mean road loop, not code loop. 09:33:20 <Celestar> well you just have to enable queueing for vehicles :) 09:33:28 <Vornicus> aha 09:33:35 <Celestar> then they will wait. :) 09:33:47 <Vornicus> now: 09:33:48 <Vornicus> slep. 09:34:00 <Celestar> slep? ^^ 09:34:05 <Vornicus> slep. 09:34:10 <Vornicus> as in, I go to slep now. 09:34:31 <Celestar> ok 09:34:34 * Celestar goes to have lunch 09:34:36 <Vornicus> ni 09:50:10 <TrueLight> okay, compile-farm nightly runs as expected, now I only need to insert the compile.log somehow.... 09:55:24 <TrueLight> okay, I can only assume I did everything correct 09:55:28 <TrueLight> if not, we loose data 09:55:29 <TrueLight> oh well :p 09:58:14 <Bjarni> how do you say "optical drive" in German? 09:58:26 <Bjarni> (like a CD drive) 09:58:27 <TrueLight> fahrrad 09:58:27 <TrueLight> :p 09:58:45 <TrueLight> lol, sorry, stupid joke :p 09:58:57 <Bjarni> seriously, I need it right now 09:59:02 <TrueLight> try google 09:59:08 <peter1138> TrueLight: lose what sort of data? 09:59:20 <TrueLight> peter1138: nightly archive or something 09:59:26 <peter1138> oh 09:59:27 <peter1138> nothing much 09:59:43 <zen--> optische diskette? 10:00:15 <zen--> u translating? 10:00:32 <peter1138> ok, i need md5sum routines and settings code 10:00:37 <TrueLight> Bjarni: will we ever compile macosx with SDL again? 10:01:32 * peter1138 erks at the code style in md5.c 10:01:43 <Bjarni> TrueLight: most likely not 10:01:50 <Bjarni> how do you say "boot" in German? 10:02:45 <TrueLight> say? Pfff, you got a mic? 10:09:54 *** CobraA1 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 10:11:14 <Celestar> Tron: ping 10:11:17 <TrueLight> Bjarni: I renamed macosx-no-sdl to macosx, and macosx to macosx-sdl 10:11:29 <peter1138> hmm 10:11:45 <peter1138> i think it's fairly safe to say if the MD5 sums match, the GRF ID matches too 10:15:40 <Bjarni> <TrueLight> Bjarni: I renamed macosx-no-sdl to macosx, and macosx to macosx-sdl <-- good :) 10:17:40 <TrueLight> okay.... I think I should now be testing it for real with a total nightly build... 10:17:43 <TrueLight> that is scary :p 10:18:02 <Bjarni> what have you done? 10:18:09 <TrueLight> A lot 10:18:12 <Bjarni> written a general script? 10:18:14 <TrueLight> switched to a whole new system 10:18:18 <TrueLight> see SVN commit :p 10:18:31 <TrueLight> it can now handle rules 10:18:34 <TrueLight> which anyone can define 10:19:20 <TrueLight> k, here goes nothing :) 10:20:09 <Eddi|zuHause> [03.04. 12:01] <Bjarni> how do you say "optical drive" in German? <- 'drive' = 'Laufwerk' 10:21:01 <Bjarni> ok, then I didn't pick the best word, but I already sent the Email 10:21:03 <Bjarni> thanks anyway 10:21:04 <TrueLight> okay, that was a fuck-up 10:21:13 <Bjarni> I think they understand it anyway ;) 10:24:02 <TrueLight> okay, nightly is running, let me know if there are _any_ problems with it 10:24:13 <TrueLight> (Besides the program itself of course :p) 10:24:16 <TrueLight> so missing files 10:24:18 <TrueLight> or wrong dirs 10:24:19 <TrueLight> or what ever 10:24:21 <TrueLight> just anything 10:25:26 <TrueLight> hehe, I defined the osx target wrong :p 10:25:34 <Bjarni> TrueLight: I got a serious problem with this 10:25:39 <Bjarni> I have no time to test it now :p 10:25:47 *** sk [n=sk@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:26:39 <TrueLight> http://nightly.openttd.org/devs/logs/ <- our new log-archive :) 10:28:20 <CIA-5> celestar * r4250 /trunk/ (water_cmd.c water_map.h): -Codechange: Further use of map accessors for water tiles 10:30:39 <TrueLight> minor problems detected.... 10:30:56 <Bjarni> bbl 10:31:04 <CIA-5> celestar * r4251 /trunk/water_map.h: -Fix: Silence a warning in GetWaterTileType 10:31:35 *** El-POdiUM [n=larsever@ti211310a081-0188.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 10:33:08 <El-POdiUM> Hmm, i got a suggestion. Why not add deflation into the game to make it a bit harder? Since when you get by some point, it's just plain driving. 10:34:00 <Eddi|zuHause> play a huge map and try filling it... 10:34:04 <El-POdiUM> Deflation may occur in some regions for over a couple of years. 3 - 6 towns. 10:34:23 <El-POdiUM> done it Eddi|zuHause 10:34:31 <Eddi|zuHause> then do it again ; 10:34:33 <El-POdiUM> but the only outcome is a lot of cash 10:34:33 <Eddi|zuHause> ;) 10:34:57 <Eddi|zuHause> then try building as fast as you get money ;) 10:35:09 <El-POdiUM> done that too 10:35:41 <El-POdiUM> but deflation may be quite fun 10:36:59 <peter1138> recessions to occur 10:37:08 <peter1138> depending on your settings 10:38:50 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176126227.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:39:11 <El-POdiUM> well yeah, but that would be the same as deflation 10:39:11 <Brianetta> Turn on disasters. After about 2020, the UFOs will drive you nuts. 10:39:30 <El-POdiUM> I guess that will only make me mad 10:39:47 <peter1138> s/to/do/ 10:41:59 <El-POdiUM> I just think that TTD is a bit too easy 10:42:06 <El-POdiUM> :) 10:42:45 <Celestar> a BIT?! 10:42:47 <TrueLight> YEAH! All nightlies compiled perfectly :) 10:42:55 <TrueLight> Just the error-log isn't registered correctly 10:42:57 <TrueLight> but that is a detail 10:47:25 <TrueLight> lol! Reading the error-file before you compiled isn't the smartest thing :) 10:49:18 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable254.254-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 10:49:31 <El-POdiUM> I would be quite fun to add an ordinary busstop to TTD, not only terminals. Something like this: http://www.theagitator.com/archives/busstop.jpg 10:50:10 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:50:44 <El-POdiUM> terminal at each end and for both ways. Ordinary busstops = oneway 10:50:56 <CIA-5> celestar * r4252 /trunk/ (water_cmd.c water_map.h): -Codechange: Make more use of map accessors. water_cmd is now map access free 10:51:31 <black_Nightmare> el-podium....I like the idea too but I wonder about busy roads having vehicles lined up behind a bus stopped on the road? 10:51:51 <CIA-5> truelight * r4253 /compile_farm/ (controller/install controller/rules nightly/compile_dir/): -Fix: glitches in the controller scripts 10:52:04 <TrueLight> okay, me is happy :) 10:52:29 <peter1138> Celestar: GetSection() ... Section of what? 10:52:45 <Celestar> of Depot or Lock 10:52:59 <El-POdiUM> black_Nightmare: what about making the road a bit wider at the side the busstop would be. 10:53:46 <El-POdiUM> or create separate square with the busstop 10:54:06 <Alltaken> yo yo 10:55:09 <TrueLight> k, let's hope at 20:00 the nightly kicks in nicely :p 10:55:10 <TrueLight> hehehe 10:55:18 <TrueLight> all old shit is backuped up :) 10:55:23 <TrueLight> no more Makefile.config problems!!! :) :) :) 10:55:39 *** zen-- [n=zen@193.40.194.197] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:55:43 <El-POdiUM> The advantage would increase the efficiency of the busses. SInce the stop whould be much shorter black_Nightmare 10:58:29 <peter1138> while you're at it, can the nightly be changed to UTC? ;p 10:59:32 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:01:01 <black_Nightmare> el-podium...here's one idea if you could 11:01:19 <black_Nightmare> make the bus stop as one tile that would be attached to the side of the road just like the depots already are 11:01:41 <black_Nightmare> the bus only have to like do a 15 degree turn to get from road to the bus stop 11:02:03 <peter1138> one attraction of an on-road bus stop is you don't have to destroy any valuable buildings... 11:02:03 <black_Nightmare> holds one bus per tile (thats what it looks like to me) 11:02:19 <El-POdiUM> yes 11:02:50 <El-POdiUM> and the stop would be shorter 11:03:22 <black_Nightmare> peter....the problem is... 11:03:30 <black_Nightmare> the road is only wide enough for 2 vehicles already isn't it? 11:04:36 <black_Nightmare> hmm that makes me wonder 11:05:10 <El-POdiUM> me too 11:05:49 <peter1138> they can overtake, heh 11:06:17 <black_Nightmare> peter...not if its busy that a lot of vehicles are coming other ways too 11:06:20 <El-POdiUM> or else the vehicle could pass the stoping bus by passing it in the other lane 11:06:26 <black_Nightmare> bus stop could work for small towns with few vehicles tho I guess 11:07:01 <El-POdiUM> not if the solution is a road wide enough for 3 vehicles. 11:07:43 <black_Nightmare> hmmm....if you could try shave all the sidewalks away to nothing and squeeze the lane markers.....maybeeeeee 3 vehicles will fit :p 11:09:27 <El-POdiUM> could be 11:21:04 *** zen-- [n=zen@193.40.194.197] has joined #openttd 11:34:04 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-083-102-071-182.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 11:46:19 *** Mek [i=marijn@82.75.184.247] has joined #openttd 11:46:31 <CIA-5> celestar * r4254 /trunk/ (town_cmd.c town_map.h): -Codechange: Add and make use of map accessors for town lifts. 11:46:43 <hylje> town lifts? 11:46:54 <peter1138> town building lifts 11:47:01 <peter1138> which one building has 11:47:05 <Celestar> TWO! 11:47:09 <peter1138> two? hmm 11:47:14 <Celestar> one in temperate, one in arctic 11:47:15 <Celestar> :P 11:47:17 <peter1138> lol 11:51:47 <peter1138> hmm 11:55:13 <peter1138> ini file stuff :( 11:55:22 <Celestar> GB shifts stuff to the right, correct? 11:57:04 *** Pingwincheg [n=schamane@p5498E5FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:57:34 *** Pingwincheg [n=schamane@p5498FCC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:58:56 *** Mek [i=marijn@82.75.184.247] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:06:42 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:06:58 *** Mek [i=marijn@82.75.184.247] has joined #openttd 12:07:04 *** Mek [i=marijn@82.75.184.247] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:07:12 <peter1138> Celestar: yes 12:07:29 <Celestar> good. 12:07:46 *** Mek [i=marijn@82.75.184.247] has joined #openttd 12:12:17 *** TrueLight is now known as TL|Away 12:16:03 <Tobin> Heh, I can compile GRFcodec now. 12:16:26 <Tobin> NFO makes me weep. 12:18:17 <guru3> NFO? 12:20:57 <CIA-5> celestar * r4255 /trunk/ (unmovable_cmd.c unmovable_map.h): -Codechange: Add and make use of more accessor functions concerning unmovables. unmovable_cmd is now map access free 12:22:03 <Celestar> can anyone using something else than gcc try to remove tile.h and map.h from water_cmd.c and unmovable_cmd.c and tell me if it works? 12:22:03 <Brianetta> [12:06] <black_Nightmare> peter...not if its busy that a lot of vehicles are coming other ways too 12:22:08 <Brianetta> This is normal wher eI live... 12:23:07 *** Mek_ [i=marijn@82.75.184.247] has joined #openttd 12:30:22 *** tank [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:30:27 *** tank_ [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #openttd 12:30:31 *** Mek [i=marijn@82.75.184.247] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:30:36 *** DaleStan_ [n=Dale@12-202-240-195.client.insightBB.com] has joined #openttd 12:30:45 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@12-202-240-195.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:38:25 * peter1138 ponders food 12:41:33 <CIA-5> peter1138 * r4256 /trunk/vehicle.c: - Codechange: Replace lone map access in vehicle.c with its map accessor. 12:41:51 <peter1138> i go for the easy ones, me ;p 12:43:43 <Celestar> Tron: grep ^#include *.h | grep -o "[a-z]*.h" | sort | uniq -c <= this aint too pretty :( 12:44:41 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6310.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 12:44:52 <peter1138> one ".h" ? heh 12:45:04 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B357D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:45:08 <guru3> whoa wtf? 12:45:13 <guru3> what a command line 12:45:23 <guru3> with regexp too :s 12:45:43 <Celestar> guru3: :) 12:45:48 <guru3> i hates regexp 12:46:01 <Celestar> I love em. 12:46:04 <guru3> gives me the willies everytime i go near em 12:48:42 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:49:38 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:49:49 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Bye all."] 12:50:20 <Celestar> ok WHY do we not save or load map data in map.c ? 12:52:56 <peter1138> move it? 12:53:20 <Celestar> peter1138: any objection against renamin airport_map5_tiles_* into airport_sections_* ? 12:54:11 *** ThePizzaKing is now known as TPK|Sleep 12:54:28 * Celestar thinks map.c is the ONLY file in the game that didn't refer to _m :S 13:00:08 <peter1138> heh 13:00:57 <Celestar> peter1138: if no objections I'll do it 13:01:08 <peter1138> none 13:02:36 <CIA-5> celestar * r4257 /trunk/station_cmd.c: -Codechange: Renamed the airport_map5_tiles_* variables into airport_sections_* 13:03:42 *** Scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:04:26 *** Alltaken [n=chatzill@blender/artist/allTaken] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.70 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]"] 13:04:47 <Celestar> well. this is getting us somewhere. 13:04:52 <Celestar> hopefully. 13:05:32 <peter1138> would be nice 13:09:13 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [i=Q@p54A7E34B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:09:24 <Celestar> peter1138: do you have like 5 minutes? 13:10:52 <peter1138> maybe 13:10:59 <Celestar> I have a diff to read :) 13:12:24 *** CobraA1 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 13:13:01 <peter1138> ok 13:16:55 <peter1138> ah 13:17:17 *** zen-- [n=zen@193.40.194.197] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:18:01 <peter1138> strange double spaces in places ;p 13:18:46 <Celestar> what? 13:19:13 <peter1138> ONE_DESERT && !IsOnD 13:19:33 <peter1138> DrawRoadBits() was originally done like that for custom bridge heads 13:19:53 <peter1138> dunno if that'll apply 13:20:08 <Celestar> we will see later. 13:22:57 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:23:10 <Belugas> hello all 13:23:19 <Celestar> hello one 13:23:54 <Belugas> Hello Celestar. You've been doing good stuff :) 13:24:03 * Belugas liked 13:24:08 <Celestar> thanks Belugas. More to come. 13:24:26 <Celestar> vici@galadriel:[/home/vici/openttd/trunk/currdiff]> cat *.diff | wc -l 13:24:26 <Celestar> 1379 13:24:29 <Belugas> i have one too, for houses 13:24:54 <Belugas> unfortunalety, been quite buzy this weekend :( 13:25:03 <Celestar> same here. 13:25:35 <Belugas> Congrats for unmovable ;) 13:26:20 <Celestar> thanks :) 13:26:39 <Celestar> how are houses progressing? 13:26:45 <Celestar> peter1138: any more comments? 13:28:34 *** stavrosg [n=stavrosg@athedsl-16067.otenet.gr] has joined #OpenTTD 13:30:33 <Belugas> slowly, but surely. I only had 15 minutes of real work done. Today, should be more productive, hopefully 13:33:43 * Tobin likes to see a process using 143% CPU 13:34:01 <peter1138> Celestar: nope 13:34:03 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:34:12 <peter1138> Belugas: what about vehicle.c ! ;) 13:34:14 <Celestar> peter1138: good, then it is gone :) 13:34:59 <Belugas> Yeah for peter1138!!!! 13:35:24 <CIA-5> celestar * r4258 /trunk/ (road_cmd.c road_map.h): -Codechange: Add and make use of map accessors dealing with road ground types (including roadworks). 13:35:33 <Celestar> ok 13:35:36 * Celestar is off doing some work 13:35:42 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181111198.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:54:40 *** tank_ is now known as tank 13:55:48 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:55:54 <RoySmeding> e 13:56:10 <RoySmeding> argh 13:56:28 <RoySmeding> i was typing "hello everyone" in another channel and BAM freenode is done connecting and the channels pop up 13:56:44 <peter1138> foo' 14:00:19 <orudge> Ooh, fun 14:00:32 * orudge just booted up NT 3.51 under Virtual PC and found an old build of OpenTTD he tweaked to get running there 14:04:54 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 14:04:55 <Celestar> would there be any objections to raise the saveload revision a couple of times? 14:09:35 <peter1138> pourquoi? 14:10:29 <peter1138> (why?) 14:10:37 <glx> :) 14:12:23 <Celestar> ok. 14:12:25 <Celestar> 1) newslotter 14:12:28 <Celestar> 2) fix last vehicle 14:12:31 <Celestar> 3) fix buoys. 14:13:00 <orudge> newslotter? 14:13:01 <Celestar> well. at least "pre-fix" buys. 14:13:06 <Celestar> buoys* 14:13:19 <Celestar> orudge: improved road vehicle handling for multistop. 14:13:25 <orudge> Ah 14:13:29 <orudge> I read that as a misspelling of newslette r:p 14:13:31 <orudge> *newsletter 14:15:52 <Celestar> ok newslotter will now be added. 14:21:15 *** zen-- [n=zen@88-196-42-171-dsl.noe.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 14:22:56 <peter1138> \o/ 14:23:07 <peter1138> orudge: i did that too :) 14:23:24 <orudge> Heh 14:23:56 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 14:25:35 <CIA-5> celestar * r4259 /trunk/ (11 files in 2 dirs): 14:25:35 <CIA-5> -[multistop] Fix/Feature/Codechange: 14:25:35 <CIA-5> 1) Improved the road vehicle allocation (aka slotting) for multistop. Stops can now accept unlimited, er... 256, vehicles. 14:25:35 <CIA-5> 2) Removed the "wait for stop" feature, because it did not work in practise. 14:25:35 <CIA-5> 3) Slotting now ignores unreachable stations. Uses NPF at the moment because the old pathfinder cannot do it (yet) 14:25:40 <CIA-5> 4) Now matter how many vehicles approach a station, they will always be distributed evenly over existing stops. 14:25:43 <CIA-5> 5) Hopefully the last fundamental change to multistop 14:26:09 <Celestar> Vornicus: please test this version :) 14:35:26 <zen--> where can i get that zlib 14:35:35 <orudge> www.zlib.org 14:35:47 <zen--> why isnt it downloadable from openttd.org? 14:35:59 <Celestar> because any decent OS has it installed by default 14:36:14 <zen--> and windows isnt decent?:P 14:36:21 <peter1138> nope ;P 14:36:22 <Celestar> no of course not. 14:36:30 <Brianetta> lol 14:36:32 <peter1138> you can find zlib in the useful.zip package, though 14:36:34 <Brianetta> Windows decent (: 14:36:43 <zen--> you should write it as a warning in the homepage:P 14:36:52 <zen--> oh 14:36:57 <zen--> i remember that:) 14:37:00 <Brianetta> zen--: No need, most Windows users just grab the binary 14:37:13 <Celestar> if you download KDE, you cannot download the linux/BSD/whatever kernel from KDE.org even tho it is required 14:37:39 <Brianetta> Celestar: You can't even download the QT libs! 14:38:10 <Hendikins> Brianetta: explain qt-copy in KDE svn then 14:38:18 <Celestar> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1025605/L/ <= holy SHIT 14:38:24 <Brianetta> Hendikins: Ignorance. Next conundrum? 14:39:05 <Celestar> and I always thought 3m altitude is kind of nuts. 14:39:09 <Hendikins> Celestar: That's low. 14:39:20 <Celestar> Hendikins: kind of ... 14:40:26 <peter1138> Celestar: it's one of the hover vehicles out of star wars 14:40:26 <zen--> there is not dedicated server for windows? 14:40:48 <glx> zen--: use openttd -D 14:41:02 <Brianetta> That plane had to wait at lights a few seconds after this picture. Some guy cleaned the window from the edge of the runway. 14:42:33 <Brianetta> If you rounded the nose and removed the tail fins, that fighter has the same profile as the Voyager from Star Trek 14:42:39 *** Scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:42:49 <CIA-5> KUDr * r4260 /branch/yapf/ (openttd_vs80.vcproj yapf/unittest/unittest.cpp): {YAPF] VC8 project file - removed files added by mistake 14:43:57 <Celestar> Brianetta: on that this plane exists :) 14:44:18 <Celestar> only the engines are kind if less powerful. 14:44:52 <Celestar> "server" and "windows" is something that sounds ugly 14:45:25 * Brianetta forces Celestar to use Active Directory to authenticate EVERYTHING. 14:45:59 <Celestar> luckily I never encountered AD before :) 14:46:12 <Brianetta> It awaits you in the afterlife, if you've been bad. 14:46:39 <zen--> i wonder why cant we boot windows xp up in console,,, without the gui:) 14:46:53 <Brianetta> zen--: You can. 14:47:04 <Brianetta> I just isn't capable of much. 14:47:10 <Brianetta> er, It 14:47:29 <zen--> no i mean... you cannot detach gui from windows 14:47:37 <Brianetta> You can 14:47:41 <zen--> how 14:47:52 <Brianetta> You can boot XP up in 32 bit command line only 14:47:53 <Celestar> because the entire OS is braindead from the start 14:48:03 <Brianetta> but it's practically useless 14:48:12 <Celestar> Windows became crap the moment they merged NT with consumer OSes 14:48:13 <Brianetta> so they call it "safe mode with command prompt only" 14:48:26 <glx> only useful to repair it if the gui can't load 14:48:31 <zen--> i mean... if you can attach multiple terminal sessions, then there should be an option to disable console session aswell 14:48:35 <Brianetta> Don't confuse it with DOS, it's a 32 bit NT kernel there,. 14:48:42 <Celestar> the only way to repair windows is to reinstall it 14:48:47 * Brianetta concurs 14:48:57 <Celestar> it's almost like DOS airlines 14:49:33 <Celestar> http://www.webaugur.com/bibliotheca/field_stock/os-airlines.html <= something to laugh 14:52:03 <zen--> lol 14:52:20 <Celestar> it is kind of true, everything that'S written there 14:52:28 <Brianetta> (: 14:55:22 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.104.145.68] has joined #openttd 14:56:09 <CIA-5> belugas * r4261 /trunk/ (town.h town_cmd.c town_map.h): CodeChange : Add and Use Accessor for Houses Construction. And cleaning on town.flags12 too 14:58:30 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@212.24.150.227] has joined #openttd 14:58:55 <peter1138> mmm, excessive capitals 14:59:04 <Brianetta> Yuck 14:59:13 <Brianetta> beginning a sentence with a cinjunction 14:59:20 <Brianetta> a conjunction, too 15:00:12 * Brianetta pastes that sentence into his jotter 15:00:13 <Belugas> I think it looks cool :) 15:00:15 <peter1138> it's ok in narration :) 15:00:26 <Brianetta> I'm going to bring this up in future grammer fights 15:00:49 <Brianetta> the trailing too just adds insult to the injury of the beginning "And" 15:01:30 <Belugas> Ho boy... Have pity on the poor french man, please.... 15:01:49 <Brianetta> (: 15:01:52 <Brianetta> muahahah 15:01:59 * Brianetta is Eeeengleesh 15:02:14 * orudge is now playing with his old DOS version of OpenTTD 15:02:26 <orudge> I think I might update the DOS port 15:02:28 <orudge> Just for fun 15:02:30 <Brianetta> Oooh, I didn't know there was one 15:03:06 *** mgla__ [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has joined #openttd 15:03:08 <orudge> I ported it a while ago 15:03:09 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:03:10 <orudge> Never released it 15:03:38 <Brianetta> You're the king of obscure ports. 15:03:59 <hylje> port it to symbian s80 while youre at it 15:04:01 <Brianetta> All we need now is a port to GEM on the Atari 15:05:28 <orudge> I was thinking about that yesterday too actually 15:05:31 <orudge> in all seriousness 15:05:34 * orudge is a FreeGEM developer 15:05:35 <orudge> (for the PC) 15:05:42 <orudge> And I was looking at some Atari emulators yesterday 15:05:47 <orudge> and discovered some fun stuff 15:05:57 <orudge> SDL has been ported, so it should be quite possible :p 15:06:19 *** Torrasque [n=jerome@84-74-150-246.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openttd 15:06:27 *** Elusi0n [i=Elusi0n@dsl-imtgw1-fff8c000-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:06:47 <Elusi0n> anyone present? 15:06:55 <Celestar> no Elusi0n 15:07:07 <Brianetta> Is there a RISCOS port? 15:07:16 <Brianetta> I have an Archimedes A3000 with 2mb 15:07:24 <Brianetta> unfortunately, no fixed disk 15:07:30 <Elusi0n> can someone tell me how to modify vehicle names in openttd, if i have a vehicle.dat file? 15:08:16 <orudge> OpenTTD has been ported to RISC OS, yes, Brianetta 15:08:30 <orudge> http://www.flypig.co.uk/ports.htm 15:08:40 <orudge> http://www.flypig.co.uk/images/screenshots/openttd.png 15:09:01 <orudge> I'm impressed at the number of architectures OpenTTD has been ported to 15:09:10 <orudge> eg, the PSP with wifi multiplayer support sounds fun 15:09:33 <Brianetta> The binary version alone would fill my RAM if I had it in RAM disk 15:09:41 <Brianetta> I havea PSP 15:09:58 <Brianetta> unfortunately, the PSP is a TCP 15:10:03 <FauxFaux> orudge: What's really needed is a windows mobile 4 port (that works) :) 15:10:06 <Brianetta> and my firmware is too recent to crack 15:10:13 <Elusi0n> please, tell me how can i modify vehicle names?! 15:10:42 * FauxFaux inserts favoured device/hardware/os plug. 15:10:48 <orudge> VEHICLE.DAT files are not supported in OpenTTD 15:11:01 <orudge> I meant to write a DAT to GRF converter a while ago, haven't done that yet 15:11:05 <Brianetta> That screenshot's from a version of RISCOS *way* in advance of my own 3.11 15:11:19 <CIA-5> celestar * r4262 /trunk/town_cmd.c: -Codechange: use IsClearWaterTile instead of some "home-brewn" marco. town_cmd is now map access free 15:11:24 <Elusi0n> yes i can see that, but is there any othe ways of changing the vehicle names? 15:11:55 <Celestar> Elusi0n: if you have the code, yes. or you can use original vehicle names somehow. 15:12:00 <Celestar> (never trried or use it) 15:12:29 <Elusi0n> okaay 15:13:15 <Belugas> [11:07] * (: Brianetta is Eeeengleesh 15:13:30 <Belugas> Of cousre, you even smile the wrong side :D 15:13:47 <orudge> Hm, I wonder if anyone has ported OpenTTD to the PS2 yet (well, PS2 Linux) 15:13:54 <Belugas> (joking, no offense ;)) 15:14:21 * orudge is British, and smiles properly :) 15:14:30 <orudge> Occasionally I will frown the wrong way round for emphasis: D: 15:16:56 <hylje> D: 15:17:35 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6310.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:18:16 <Celestar> ij 15:18:17 <Celestar> ok 15:18:19 * Celestar is gone 15:18:20 <CIA-5> celestar * r4263 /trunk/road_cmd.c: -Codechange: Road building no longer uses FindLandscapeHeight. Last occurence of FindLandscapeTile in the tile-specific functions gone. Thanks to Tron for doing lots of work in this direction 15:18:20 <Celestar> cu 15:18:22 <Belugas> of the smiley, orudge, not the road :) 15:18:48 <Celestar> 12 commits for today are enough 15:19:05 <Belugas> Good job :) 15:19:33 <orudge> Hmm, VC6 compilation is broken with OpenTTD, again 15:19:39 * orudge is sure he's fixed this DWORD_PTR thing before 15:21:16 *** mgla__ [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:22:41 <Belugas> orudge : what message? 15:23:36 <Brianetta> Does CIA-5 announce every commit? 15:24:44 <orudge> About DWORD_PTR not being defined in win32_s.c 15:25:00 <orudge> It seems to happen in Debug mode anyway 15:25:01 <Belugas> Brianetta : he is supposed to 15:25:10 <orudge> Hm, yes, and release too 15:25:26 <orudge> Also, I get errors with dmusic.cpp about INT_PTR being redefined, and others 15:25:31 <Belugas> orudge : Ok, thanks 15:25:43 * orudge can't be bothered to fix it again just now 15:26:33 <Belugas> Brianetta : hum... IT (bot) is supposed to announce those commits :) 15:26:55 <Brianetta> yes, I knew it was a bot (: 15:28:24 <Brianetta> You know, until fairly recently I thought the last force to successfully invade Britain was the Normans under William in 1066. Since then, I've learned that the Germans invaded and occupied the Channel Islands in the second world war. 15:29:53 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@212.24.150.227] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:30:07 <Brianetta> Time to read bash.org 15:30:14 <orudge> The Channel Islands are a British crown dependencies though 15:30:17 <orudge> they're not part of the UK 15:30:28 <Brianetta> orudge: A technicality I shall cling to. 15:30:37 <orudge> From that logic, you could say that Argentina invaded Britain in the Falklands war 15:30:40 <Brianetta> Or, a technicality to which I shall cling. 15:31:14 <orudge> Well, hm, it's a bit different I suppose 15:31:22 <orudge> as the Falklands are an overseas territory 15:31:25 <orudge> as opposed to a crown dependency 15:39:04 *** Elyysson [i=Elusi0n@dsl-imtgw1-fff8c000-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:40:03 *** Elusi0n [i=Elusi0n@dsl-imtgw1-fff8c000-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:41:24 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3D009.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:54:55 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3D9C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:56:47 *** Cipri [n=cipri@a47034.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:02:13 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD65E8D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 16:07:41 <peter1138> where's darkvater when you need him? 16:09:39 <Bjarni> always offline when you need him and always online when you do something that might upset him 16:09:54 *** zenj [n=zen@88-196-42-171-dsl.noe.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 16:10:16 *** Head [n=Head___@Pcb48.p.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 16:15:12 <Brianetta> it's a little known fact that the nightly releases aren't actually compiled by anyone, they just mysteriously appear on the openttd site packaged and ready for release... it's postulated that the Devil himself uses the game, and in return for using it he takes care of the insane build requirements 16:15:46 <hylje> bash.org 16:15:53 <Brianetta> (shamelessly plagiarised from there, yes) 16:19:50 <Sionide> haha 16:19:51 <Sionide> busted 16:20:14 <Bjarni> Sionide: that will teach you to be a nudist when you think nobody is watching 16:20:48 <Bjarni> too bad a bus full of Japanese tourists past you 16:20:53 <Sionide> lol... 16:21:00 <Sionide> hmm think i might try out elrails 16:21:04 <Sionide> what's it like anyways? 16:21:13 <hylje> ottd with electric rails 16:21:18 <Bjarni> it's very powerful 16:21:36 <Sionide> mhmm, guessed that much hylje 16:21:55 <Brianetta> very powerful. 16:22:12 <Brianetta> Several megawatts, by my reckoning 16:22:38 <Sionide> a good way to commit suicide? 16:22:42 <hylje> quite 16:22:59 <hylje> shouldnt be that painful since it paralyzes ya 16:23:12 <Brianetta> Don't count on that 16:23:26 <Brianetta> Quite the opposite 16:23:48 <Sionide> if you ground the electric lines above the railways in the UK, you immediately will burst into flames and be thrown about 30 feet into the air... 16:23:50 <Bjarni> Brianetta: when I told you about the two engines in the deltic, I did that since you live in England. If you lived in USA (luckily that's not the case), I would have said something like I did here: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Centennial 16:23:58 <Brianetta> True, you can't move, but it's sending signals to your brain - and much more strongly than the millivolts you normally use. 16:24:06 <Sionide> there's nothing about elrails on the wiki 16:24:06 <Sionide> ? 16:24:10 <Bjarni> I wrote the Real-life Equivalent part, except for the first line 16:24:47 <Bjarni> <Sionide> there's nothing about elrails on the wiki <-- nobody prevents you from doing so ;) 16:25:10 <CIA-5> KUDr * r4264 /branch/yapf/ (47 files in 2 dirs): Sync with trunk 16:25:23 <Bjarni> KUDr: hi 16:25:28 <KUDr_wrk> hi 16:25:33 <Sionide> Bjarni, i don't know anything about them... :/ 16:25:35 * Sionide compiles and runs 16:25:47 <Bjarni> oh that explains the lack of reply in PM, I messaged the wrong KUDr :p 16:26:00 <KUDr_wrk> aha 16:26:05 <KUDr_wrk> am still at work 16:26:18 <KUDr_wrk> will go home soon 16:26:25 <KUDr_wrk> and read it 16:27:13 <Bjarni> basically I asked if I should try the yapf unitest on OSX 16:27:20 <KUDr_wrk> yes 16:27:27 <KUDr_wrk> it works on linux 16:27:27 <Bjarni> how do I do it? 16:27:34 <KUDr_wrk> make unittest 16:27:43 <KUDr_wrk> it compiles and runs 16:27:51 <KUDr_wrk> and tells the result 16:28:08 *** zen-- [n=zen@88-196-42-171-dsl.noe.estpak.ee] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:28:30 <KUDr_wrk> would be great to have feedback from OSX or any other system 16:30:12 <Bjarni> it seems simple enough to do 16:30:24 <Bjarni> /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: 16:30:24 <Bjarni> __Unwind_Resume 16:30:29 <Bjarni> that was quick 16:30:38 <KUDr_wrk> hmm 16:30:50 <KUDr_wrk> whats that? /usr/bin/ld 16:31:01 <KUDr_wrk> linker? 16:31:08 <Bjarni> yeah 16:31:35 <KUDr_wrk> what can I do about that? 16:31:35 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.stb.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:32:11 <Bjarni> hmm 16:32:14 <Bjarni> that's the question 16:32:28 <KUDr_wrk> looks like some libstdc++ problem 16:32:39 <KUDr_wrk> about exception handling 16:33:21 <KUDr_wrk> can you try to find the library, where this "__Unwind_Resume" is defined? 16:36:08 <KUDr_wrk> Bjarni: bbs from home (ca 20 mins.) 16:37:20 <Sionide> what's the difference between i-386 and i-686 ? how do i find out which one mine is?? 16:37:42 <Sionide> also, is elrails now in the normal nightly releases? 16:38:03 *** DJ_Mirage [n=djmirage@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:38:06 <Belugas> Any comments on : http://openttd.belugasmasques.org/industry_cleanup.diff ? Phase 1 of cleanup. When it will be done, no more map access in station_cmd :) 16:40:52 <peter1138> Sionide: 1) not a lot 2) yes 16:41:43 <Sionide> peter1138, which is better between the two then? 16:41:51 <Sionide> 686 i suppose?? 16:42:58 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tsch??"] 16:43:28 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: I like the patch :) 16:43:58 *** |Jeroen| [i=jerre@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:44:35 <Belugas> Thanks. But it is not like... revolutionnary ;) 16:44:51 *** Sacro [i=Ben@adsl-83-100-130-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:48:21 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable254.254-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 16:57:35 <Sacro> busy in here today 16:58:35 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [i=Q@p54A7E34B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["http://mir.ist-langweilig.de/oh_man.jpg/"] 17:05:41 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 17:11:34 *** Head [n=Head___@Pcb48.p.pppool.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:12:35 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.104.145.68] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:12:47 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54946F7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:15:51 <Sionide> hm if elrails is a feature now shouldn't there be an example of it on the main menu screen? :) 17:16:28 <peter1138> who meddled with water_cmd.c? heh 17:16:43 <MiHaMiX> Sionide: good idea. fix it :) 17:16:49 <glx> missing a default:NOT_REACHED() 17:17:02 <Sacro> Sionide: been suggested 17:17:14 <Sionide> been fixed/ 17:17:15 <Sionide> ? 17:17:43 <Sionide> i'll do it now, heh 17:20:12 <Sionide> maybe just have it going across the top right corner? (at 1024x768 anyway) 17:20:31 <Sacro> the current title screen is artic - no electric trains ive been told 17:21:39 <Sionide> ahh 17:22:13 <Sionide> the game has 68 million euros, lol 17:23:55 <Sionide> it doesn't have pre/exit/combo signals in it 17:25:07 <peter1138> wo 17:25:11 <peter1138> er, "woo" 17:25:14 <Born_Acorn> wa? 17:25:14 <peter1138> newgrf saveload :D 17:25:17 <Born_Acorn> :O 17:25:18 <Born_Acorn> :D 17:25:32 * Born_Acorn can sense newgrf. 17:28:53 *** Richk67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 17:30:46 <Sionide> eh, no more combo sigs? 17:35:03 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD65E8D.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 17:37:18 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-194-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:39:31 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 17:42:42 *** DaDead [n=DaDead@adsl-75-4-111-49.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 17:46:47 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B357D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 17:48:37 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:50:23 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:50:27 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:52:19 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 18:00:06 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176116183.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:00:22 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@81.183.161.221] has joined #openttd 18:02:33 <MiHaMiX> http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bermonroy20pg.jpg 18:05:47 <Sacro> MiHaMiX: game or IRL? 18:05:55 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: donno :) 18:06:07 <Elyysson> not irl 18:06:13 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: AFAIK photoshop :) 18:06:23 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: I asked the guy who pasted the url 18:06:36 <Elyysson> its clearly not irl 18:08:26 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6310.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 18:11:43 <DaDead> so how is the data file free version of openttd going? 18:11:45 <CIA-5> Darkvater * r4265 /trunk/ (rail_cmd.c road_cmd.c station_cmd.c tunnelbridge_cmd.c): - Fix: compile warning on VS2005 (parameter 2 different from declaration) 18:12:44 <CIA-5> Darkvater * r4266 /trunk/water_cmd.c: - Fix: compile warning on VS2005 (not all control paths return a value) 18:14:52 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176126227.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:18:53 *** DaDead [n=DaDead@adsl-75-4-111-49.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:24:18 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit ["/quit"] 18:31:06 <CIA-5> Darkvater * r4267 /trunk/ (network.c network_client.c network_data.h network_server.c): - Fix (r4241): also validate the error number that a client receives from a server, and encapsulate this functionality into GetNetworkErrorMsg(). 18:31:53 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater seems to have some time on OpenTTD :) 18:33:36 *** DarkSSH [n=plop@5354EC24.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:33:37 *** mode/#openttd [+o DarkSSH] by ChanServ 18:33:42 *** DarkSSH is now known as Darkvater 18:33:48 *** mode/#openttd [-o Darkvater] by Darkvater 18:33:56 <Darkvater> ello 18:34:10 <Bjarni> 'allo 18:34:20 <Sacro> ullo 18:34:47 <Bjarni> 'allo, anybody listening? 18:35:09 <MiHaMiX> yes 18:35:13 <Sacro> im reading, that do/ 18:35:26 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:35:36 <Belugas> He? What did you said? Speaks louder, i'm too far 18:36:17 <MiHaMiX> despite of the coffee I drank an hour ago, I'm still sleepy 18:39:54 <peter1138> evening 18:39:54 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:42:15 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 18:47:53 *** Scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:50:35 *** Vereen-Away [n=Zerohunt@nsg93-1-81-57-216-169.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 18:50:54 <Vereen-Away> hello everybody 18:51:05 <Sacro> Vereen-Away: hello 18:51:14 <Brianetta> water_cmd.c: In function `ClearTile_Water': 18:51:14 <Brianetta> water_cmd.c:322: warning: control reaches end of non-void function 18:51:20 <Brianetta> Missing return, devs? 18:51:20 *** Vereen-Away is now known as Vereen 18:51:23 <Sacro> Brianetta: thus no server :( 18:51:47 <Brianetta> Sacro? 18:52:13 <Vereen> I am interested in Spectating one of you Co-op games is it possible? 18:52:26 <Brianetta> Vereen: Yes. 18:52:34 <Brianetta> Check out the wiki for passwords, etc 18:52:58 <Vereen> ok thx 18:53:40 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:54:02 <Sacro> Vereen: #openttd-coop i belive is where they hang out 18:54:03 <Vereen> gonna look at this bye ^^ 18:54:08 *** Vereen [n=Zerohunt@nsg93-1-81-57-216-169.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:55:13 <Brianetta> #openttdcoop 18:55:52 <Belugas> Brianetta : r4266 did not corrected it? 18:56:17 <Brianetta> Did not correct what? 18:56:52 <Belugas> "water_cmd.c:322 :warning: control reaches end of non-void function" 18:57:23 <Brianetta> It's only a warning 18:57:39 <Brianetta> The nightly is 4263 18:58:07 <Belugas> Then, it has been fixed in 4266, thus my asking :) 18:58:24 <shintah> is there still a download for 0.4.5 around somewhere? 18:58:37 <Sacro> shintah: www.openttd.org/downloads 18:58:53 * Sacro notices the 5, sorry 18:58:57 <shintah> :) 18:59:09 <shintah> many servers don't seem to be upgraded yet :/ 18:59:46 <Sacro> shintah: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103924 18:59:52 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 19:00:16 <shintah> thx 19:00:32 * Sacro smells chicken 19:00:35 *** Sacro is now known as Sacro|AFK 19:01:24 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:02:59 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD65E8D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 19:04:09 *** Nubian [n=nubian@mrkvovy.kokotko.sk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:07:40 *** eQualizer [n=lauri@dyn12-72.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:07:51 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:08:47 *** Cheery [n=Henri@a81-197-45-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:08:52 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:09:22 <CIA-5> Darkvater * r4268 /trunk/network.c: 19:09:22 <CIA-5> - Delete the network-copy of the Patches struct as it is not needed anymore. All 19:09:22 <CIA-5> relevant patch-settings that are changed by a network-game are those that are 19:09:22 <CIA-5> saved with a savegame, so these are not affected for loaded games (since Patches 19:09:22 <CIA-5> are saved with them). Also there is a distinction between in-game patch settings 19:09:23 <CIA-5> and default patch settings and this is not affected in MP. Thus this temp copy 19:09:27 <CIA-5> can be removed. 19:09:36 *** eQualizer [n=lauri@dyn12-72.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:09:50 *** Sacro|AFK is now known as Sacro 19:12:58 *** Nubian [n=nubian@mrkvovy.kokotko.sk] has joined #openttd 19:14:01 <Sacro> win32 Nightly build isnt right 19:14:42 <Sacro> wrong release version set 19:14:48 <Brianetta> Got a hex editor? 19:15:01 <Sacro> hehe, suppose thats one way around it 19:15:36 <peter1138> what is it showing as? 19:16:18 <Sacro> 4264 19:16:34 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 19:16:51 <peter1138> hmm 19:16:57 <Darkvater> the 'r' is missing/ 19:16:58 <peter1138> is it 4264? :p 19:16:58 <Darkvater> ? 19:17:06 <Sacro> r4264 19:18:59 *** eQualizer [n=lauri@dyn12-72.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:20:04 <peter1138> hmm 19:20:09 <peter1138> i need a search path for newgrfs 19:20:18 <peter1138> or something 19:20:24 *** eQualizer [n=lauri@dyn12-72.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:20:49 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:21:00 <Richk67> yay!!! 3 more airports complete :) now 6 new airports :) 19:21:15 <peter1138> or we could mandate that grf files go in a particular place only 19:21:39 <Sacro> data/newgrf 19:22:01 <Darkvater> peter1138: hmm 19:22:15 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.openttd.org/makefile_install2.txt 19:22:27 <Darkvater> if we could code this :) 19:22:44 <Darkvater> it'd be transparent though for newgrf, etc. 19:22:45 *** |Jeroen| [i=jerre@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:22:46 <Richk67> have first line after [newgrf] in config be the base-path 19:22:51 <Darkvater> fileio would handle this 19:23:13 <peter1138> Richk67: that's actually funny 19:23:15 *** confluence [n=confluen@jackdaw.ohm.york.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 19:23:19 <peter1138> and not happening ;p 19:23:46 <peter1138> Darkvater: hmm 19:23:46 <Darkvater> the idea was to first search for your stuff in PERSONAL_DIR, then if not found in DATA_DIR 19:23:50 <Richk67> err.... i missed the joke 19:23:57 <Sacro> Darkvater: surely the *nix user would want --prefix=/usr/games/openttd? 19:24:22 <Darkvater> of course you can specify the path in [newgrf] just like now. I always do newgrf/bla.grf. This means my grf file is in data/newgrf/bla.grf 19:24:26 <Darkvater> Sacro: so? 19:24:38 <peter1138> Darkvater: i'm thinking of network games here 19:24:39 <Darkvater> Sacro: surely the *nix user would want a personal directory 19:24:44 <peter1138> where paths are... awkward 19:24:47 <Sacro> Darkvater: yeah, true 19:24:48 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:24:50 <Darkvater> Sacro: which takes precedence over global settings 19:25:09 <Darkvater> peter1138: you are thinking about uatomatically synching newgrf files for MP? 19:25:15 <peter1138> no 19:25:24 <peter1138> only telling it what grf files to load 19:25:26 <peter1138> however 19:25:38 <peter1138> telling it to load newgrf/bla.grf when i have custom/bla.grf is annoying 19:25:49 <Darkvater> peter1138: why do you need paths for that? You got the list in [newgrf] 19:25:56 <Darkvater> peter1138: no, you tell it to load bla.grf 19:25:59 <Darkvater> obviously 19:26:05 *** zenj [n=zen@88-196-42-171-dsl.noe.estpak.ee] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:26:11 <Darkvater> I think we already have a function to strip directories 19:26:33 <Darkvater> or not, but it's just const char *newgrf_file = strrchr(path, PATH_SEP); 19:26:39 <blathijs> Darkvater: I think DATA_DIR should default to $PREFIX/share/games/openttd instead 19:26:44 <Darkvater> or perhaps a +1 or something 19:26:54 <peter1138> stripping the path is fine 19:27:06 <peter1138> but then i need to know where to get it on the client side 19:27:17 <Darkvater> peter1138: I'd say data/network 19:27:26 <Darkvater> so that it surely doesn't conflict with local newgrfs 19:27:40 <peter1138> ... 19:27:52 <peter1138> it needs to use the same files... 19:28:04 <peter1138> i'm not automagically downloading stuff, heh 19:28:06 <Darkvater> hmm of course this would mean downloading them every time 19:28:24 <Darkvater> so you are not downloading anything from the server yet? 19:28:35 <peter1138> no, only a list of what files are needed 19:28:42 <Darkvater> Then don't bother with the directory just read what the client has in its [newgrf] section and if any of those files matches 19:28:55 <Darkvater> 1. find file with same name 19:29:02 <Darkvater> 2. check GRFID / MD5 19:29:18 <Darkvater> 3. done. accept / refuse 19:29:43 <Darkvater> blathijs: could be, but that is something to be thought of later when you start tinkering with the makefile 19:29:48 <peter1138> that's cumbersome 19:29:59 <peter1138> i don't want to have a make a list of newgrf files 19:30:11 <Darkvater> peter1138: ? If you are not downloading stuff that's the only way 19:30:43 <Darkvater> or you can scan directories and search for it loading them automatically on the client side when needed 19:30:55 <peter1138> yes 19:30:59 <Darkvater> I think this: 19:31:02 <peter1138> or just mandate a particular directory and that only 19:31:11 <peter1138> basically i've gone ahead with my presets system, heh 19:31:13 <Darkvater> - step 1. save newgrf info with savegames 19:31:17 <blathijs> Darkvater: k :-) 19:31:28 <Darkvater> - step 2. require server/client to have same newgrfs in openttd.cfg 19:31:43 <Darkvater> - step 3. search on clientside for matching newgrfs 19:31:54 <Darkvater> - step 4. automagically sync newgrfs 19:32:06 <peter1138> that gives us redistribution problems 19:32:12 <peter1138> unfortunately 19:32:27 <Darkvater> I'm just saying. 4 would be ideal 19:32:35 <peter1138> i'm sure you're aware of what, say MB, is like about copyright etc :) 19:32:36 <Darkvater> but all 4 steps are fully functional 19:32:46 <Sacro> but then you hit licencing problems? 19:33:18 <Noldo> peter1138: what did he say? 19:33:38 <Darkvater> so you can implement step 1 and play with that. When you feel like it implement step 2, by which time it's a bit more user-friendly 19:33:55 <Darkvater> well actually step1 and step2 should be step ONE 19:33:55 <Darkvater> but ok 19:33:56 <Darkvater> step 3 would be ideal 19:34:02 <Darkvater> and step 4 an utopia 19:34:23 <Darkvater> Noldo: if you automagically sync the newgrf files you haven't read and accepted the license 19:35:19 <Noldo> Darkvater: it's the server maintainer doing the disrtibuting 19:36:11 <Darkvater> Noldo: but we make it possible to redistribute his files without accepting the license 19:36:48 <peter1138> yeah 19:36:58 <peter1138> even redistribution is frowned on by some people 19:37:03 <peter1138> (because it's may not be canon) 19:37:43 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B357D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:39:35 <Darkvater> peter1138: but I think step 3 is perfectly ok 19:39:57 <peter1138> step 3 is my goal 19:39:59 <Darkvater> peter1138: you can just scan in data-dir for matching newgrfs 19:40:02 <peter1138> err 19:40:02 <peter1138> no 19:40:05 <peter1138> step 2 is my goal 19:40:20 <Darkvater> hmm, step3 is better :) 19:40:26 <peter1138> step 3 is what i want to do 19:40:28 <Darkvater> but step2 is sufficient 19:44:01 <Born_Acorn> step 13 doesn't exist yet. 19:44:28 <MiHaMiX> here 19:44:38 <peter1138> step 13: integrate born_acorn into society 19:44:54 <hylje> step 12: ??? 19:45:11 <peter1138> step 12: disintegrate born_acorn from society 19:45:21 <Born_Acorn> Step 11@ Eat a hot dog, of course 19:45:54 <MiHaMiX> :DDDD 19:46:09 <MiHaMiX> you guys are either too tired or too fresh :DD 20:01:32 <Richk67> woohoo - new patch released: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=423544#423544 20:01:40 <hylje> MiHaMiX: nuts 20:01:55 <TL|Away> Yeah!! The new nightlies run smooootttthhhhhh 20:01:57 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-083-102-071-182.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 20:01:58 <MiHaMiX> hylje: ? 20:02:02 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: grats :) 20:02:06 <hylje> <MiHaMiX> you guys are either too tired or too fresh :DD 20:02:12 <MiHaMiX> hylje: ahh :) 20:04:01 <Vornicus> step 85: profit? 20:04:16 *** Scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:04:52 <Bjarni> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=423544#423822 <-- hehe, this guy missed the point in this one 20:05:30 <Richk67> lol - yeah, his final position was a bit ... problematic ;) 20:06:31 <Richk67> bjarni: is celestar on tonite? 20:06:52 <peter1138> huh? 20:06:58 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:07:42 <Richk67> on = online... just cos he's in the list, doesnt mean anyone is active.... ;) 20:07:52 <Bjarni> I have no idea 20:08:03 <peter1138> i mean the red arrows/crosses 20:08:05 <Bjarni> I have been busy away from this channel 20:08:07 <peter1138> what is that? 20:08:51 <Sacro> has anyone redone the win32 build of tonights nightly? 20:09:00 <Richk67> i think grigory wanted the control tower moving... instead i went with the other design ;) 20:09:39 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:11:13 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp83-237-234-172.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 20:12:12 <Belugas> Your airports are inspiring Richk67 :) 20:12:38 <Belugas> As well as your enthusiasm! 20:12:55 <Richk67> lol - be even more inspiring in trunk ;) hint hint ;) 20:12:55 <Brianetta> Richk67: Needs a drop-down selector, rather than buttoins 20:13:36 <Richk67> yeah, its reaching the limit, but there is only design space for another 3 airports, so its not a major longterm problem 20:13:52 <Darkvater> *snigger* newgrf-airport 20:13:55 <Richk67> the whole airport system will be reworked into newgrf sometime this year 20:15:21 <peter1138> the gui needs a better mechanism for that.. hmm.. 20:15:29 <peter1138> Matt-W: gui! 20:16:07 *** DJ_Mirage [n=djmirage@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:16:11 <Belugas> One think that can be done, in order to prepare for newgrf, is to make it loadable, as in : gather everything in the same structure (if possible) and use lists instead of arrays. (well.. that is how I feel about it) 20:16:19 <Richk67> i tried with the current gui, but i didnt want to do a *major* rewrite ;) 20:17:27 <Richk67> one thing i discovered that is VERY useful - the two district airports (N/S, W/E) have the SAME finite state machine, only the position data is different 20:17:45 <Richk67> so in theory, ALL airports can be rotated 90degrees :) 20:18:06 <Darkvater> Richk67: that is incorrect 20:18:07 <Richk67> just need a graphics translation table for fence positions 20:18:42 <Darkvater> you can rotate it any arbitrary angle, since the FTA doesn't care about the position-table :) 20:18:56 <Richk67> ah... i was about to disagree ;) 20:19:07 * peter1138 ponders early night 20:19:13 <Richk67> so, yes, totally :) 20:19:16 * Darkvater slaps peter1138 awake 20:19:28 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 20:21:20 <Belugas> It is too bad newstations are not already commited. With it, airports newgrf will be possible 20:21:39 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181111198.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [] 20:23:01 <Belugas> Not pushing anyone, by the way... 20:23:27 <Sacro> and by anyone, not meaning peter1138 20:23:47 <peter1138> le sigh 20:23:50 <Darkvater> you guys are a nice lot 20:23:54 * Darkvater pats peter1138 20:23:54 <peter1138> want me to commit now? 20:23:59 <hylje> i dont see anyone in here 20:24:08 * peter1138 ponders a branch 20:24:25 <hylje> isnt there enough branches already 20:24:29 <peter1138> (seemed to work well for elrails) 20:24:50 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:24:50 <Richk67> lol - maybe i should start my own bush for all my patches ;) not quite a trunk, you see ;) 20:24:58 <hylje> bush 20:24:59 <hylje> log 20:25:06 <peter1138> twig 20:25:13 <peter1138> well, i've used svk in the past... 20:25:16 <hylje> shrubbery 20:25:19 <peter1138> doesn't help much under windows... 20:25:22 <Richk67> ni 20:26:02 *** AciD [n=gni@unaffiliated/acid] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:27:11 <Belugas> a secret branch, then :) 20:28:45 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [i=Q@p54A7E34B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:30:06 <MiHaMiX> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 20:30:13 <Qball> BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb 20:30:18 <Sacro> CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCccccccccccccccccccccccc 20:30:19 <MiHaMiX> I accidentally closed my mail client, thus deleting 18 mails 20:30:30 <Qball> ? 20:30:32 <MiHaMiX> 10 kept, 18 moved, 18 deleted. 20:30:38 <Qball> aah mutt 20:30:43 <MiHaMiX> yes 20:31:15 <Darkvater> anyone know if Celestar had any luck testing network desyncs? 20:31:16 <Qball> I like mutt, but it isn't perfect for large imap structures with lot's o subfolder 20:31:49 <Darkvater> accidentally, anyone has a server running for let's say 3-4 hours that I can connect to? 20:32:17 <Darkvater> hmm, nvm, it needs to save the game in uncompressed form 20:32:26 <Darkvater> so offski I does 20:32:31 *** Darkvater [n=plop@5354EC24.cable.casema.nl] has quit ["good night all"] 20:43:55 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:46:01 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 21:01:40 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@81.183.161.221] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:01:40 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 21:04:10 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6310.bb.online.no] has quit ["Que?"] 21:06:27 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 21:06:57 *** Torrasque [n=jerome@84-74-150-246.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 21:08:40 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:10:14 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:10:23 <Belugas_Gone> good nigth evryone 21:10:29 <Sacro> night Belugas_Gone 21:10:32 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:12:11 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54946F7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["n8"] 21:12:32 *** confluence [n=confluen@jackdaw.ohm.york.ac.uk] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]"] 21:16:04 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.stb.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:17:25 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:20:00 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:20:00 *** pittyplatsch [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:20:18 *** El-POdiUM [n=larsever@ti211310a081-0188.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:23:57 *** pittyplatsch [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 21:24:51 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [i=Q@p54A7E34B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:25:22 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:26:21 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:26:29 *** Sacro [i=Ben@adsl-83-100-130-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["Sacro has no reason"] 21:27:59 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 21:34:25 *** Elusi0n [i=Elusi0n@dsl-imtgw1-fff8c000-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:36:09 <Richk67> hi guys 21:36:17 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:37:06 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8047A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:37:10 <Richk67> ive got a compile problem: error: syntax error at end of input the line number returned is the last line of the file... is there an obvious explanation? 21:37:58 <Vornicus> Certain compilers will yell and scream if there isn't a blank line at the end of the file. 21:38:17 <Richk67> yeah, i tried that one! 21:38:41 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 21:38:43 <Vornicus> Also, if the last thing in the file is a class or struct or other data storage definition, make sure it ends with a semicolon. 21:39:22 <Vornicus> If you have a decent editor, you can put the cursor at the end of the file and it will tell you what symbol you're in - it should be no symbol at all. 21:39:48 <Vornicus> If you're in a symbol, you forgot to close out that item's definition. 21:40:15 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:40:37 <Vornicus> Alternatively, if you can send me the file that is blowing up, I can have a look-see. 21:41:41 <Richk67> yeah, dont tell the devs, but im trying to rebuild the pbs patch back in for a mini-integrated nightly ... its barfing in npf.c 21:41:44 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 21:42:02 <Vornicus> an unmodified npf.c? 21:42:11 <Vornicus> what compiler are you using? 21:42:20 <Richk67> tweaked.... im using mingw32 21:42:40 <glx> so gcc :) 21:42:48 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:43:10 <Vornicus> Send the modified version to me and I'll see what I can find. 21:43:25 <Richk67> yeah, i just missed the error 3 lines up.... npf.c:1109:15: warning: no newline at end of file 21:44:41 <Richk67> bah... gave it one, it doesnt give that error any more, but still barfs on the syntax error at end of input... im guessing the {} closings have got out of step, and one isnt closed 21:45:08 <Richk67> vornicus: give me your email so i can mail it 21:46:20 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 21:47:01 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:47:06 <glx> could be a () problem too 21:47:39 <Richk67> could that be parameters out of sync? 21:48:40 <Eddi|zuHause> shouldn't it be easy to count the number of { and } and then compare? 21:49:27 <glx> my editor highlight matching () and {} : very helpful 21:50:33 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:50:49 <Richk67> hmm.... notepad not quite there yet ;) 21:51:05 <MiHaMiX> hmm 21:51:10 <glx> never use notepad to code 21:51:23 <glx> notepad is not an edoitor 21:51:31 <glx> -o 21:51:31 <Eddi|zuHause> WinEdt (an editor for .tex mainly) for example highlights { with missing } (and vice versa) 21:51:49 <glx> ultraedit does it too 21:52:01 <Eddi|zuHause> easy to spot such mistakes then ;) 21:52:03 <Richk67> actually i use metapad... bit more advanced 21:52:25 <Eddi|zuHause> and i'm pretty sure you can get vim to do that also 21:52:33 *** TPK|Sleep is now known as ThePizzaKing 21:52:38 *** Elyysson [i=Elusi0n@dsl-imtgw1-fff8c000-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:52:46 <MiHaMiX> use gvim 21:52:51 <MiHaMiX> available for Windows, too. 21:52:55 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i do ;) 21:52:57 <MiHaMiX> http://www.vim.org/ 21:53:40 *** Elusi0n [i=Elusi0n@dsl-imtgw1-fff8c000-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:54:12 <Eddi|zuHause> narf... i hate trying to type in mirc while actually the winamp window has the focus... 21:54:15 <Richk67> i used to use sourceedit, which was great when it worked, but once it bombed (too frequently) it was full uninstall/reinstall 21:55:44 <MiHaMiX> okay folks, gn :) 21:57:10 <Eddi|zuHause> that is especially nasty, because the lower line of keys (yxcvb) are assigned to mess with the play status... so it screws everything up 21:57:28 <Richk67> ok, ive isolated it down to one routine: NPFRailPathCost, but i need someone to check the bracket structure please 21:58:56 <Eddi|zuHause> link? file? 21:58:58 <Richk67> got it 21:59:33 <Richk67> just got to make the rest of it compile... god knows if this is going to work ! 21:59:53 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 22:00:37 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:04:37 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 22:05:44 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:09:15 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B357D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 22:09:42 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 22:14:40 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82D97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 22:15:45 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Don't worry, I'll be back tomorrow to annoy you then :)"] 22:27:24 <Vornicus> Richk67: vorn@nightstar.net 22:28:55 <Vornicus> oh, you already got it. Sorry, I had to go tend to pets. 22:29:03 <Richk67> i solved the problem... missing } rippled 22:31:39 <Vornicus> aha 22:31:55 <Eddi|zuHause> whatever "rippled" means ;) 22:32:33 <glx> !whatis rippled 22:32:33 <jmp_ghli> >glx> Ripple \Rip"ple\, v. i. 1. To become fretted or dimpled on the surface, as water when agitated or running over a rough bottom; to be covered with small waves or undulations, as a field of grain. | 2. To make a sound as of water running gently over a rough bottom, or the breaking of ripples on the shore. rippled adj 1: having wrinkles or waves 2: shaken into waves or undulations as by wind; "the rippled surface of the pond"; "wit 22:32:33 <Richk67> one error on one line, carries over to the next, and the next, until it barfs sometimes later 22:33:34 <Eddi|zuHause> that does not cover this context, really ;) 22:33:58 <glx> indeed jmp is limited by line length 22:34:47 <Richk67> i dont think jmp_ghli had quite got to the definition i used ;) 22:35:13 <Eddi|zuHause> so you mean kind of like a cascaded waterfall 22:35:39 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, bracketing mistakes tend to do that ;) 22:36:18 <Richk67> cascades of errors, all triggered by one drop-in-the-pond ;) 22:36:31 * Richk67 mixing my metaphors ;) 22:36:44 <Eddi|zuHause> that is why the tex-style \begin{environment}...\end{environment} stuff is good 22:37:59 <Eddi|zuHause> because then a \begin{list}...\end{page} is a good sign of such a mistake 22:38:22 <Eddi|zuHause> and it limits the range such an error can "travel" 22:45:24 <Richk67> yup - always a problem in a language that allows loose typing 22:46:26 * Vornicus still doesn't understand why SCID features aren't more common. 23:01:54 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD65E8D.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 23:07:19 *** Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Zr40 23:09:22 *** Netsplit over, joins: Zr40 23:31:59 *** CobraA2 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:32:56 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x53588af2.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:33:54 *** CobraA2 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 23:34:05 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176116183.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 23:36:49 *** Sacro [i=Ben@adsl-213-249-239-217.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:41:01 <Sacro> anyone here use Lyx under winodws? 23:45:43 <glx> what is it? 23:47:11 <Sacro> typesetting frontend for LaTeX 23:47:41 <Sacro> DarkVater recommended it 23:48:37 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit ["Leaving."] 23:49:50 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:50:48 <Tobin> Morning all. 23:51:23 <Sacro> morning Tobin 23:53:22 *** Morlark [n=Sean@host86-134-204-234.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["Error 404: Pants not found"] 23:57:06 *** Sacro [i=Ben@adsl-213-249-239-217.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["Sacro has no reason"]