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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 01:21:39 *** Forexs- [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 01:23:08 *** Red437 [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 01:23:45 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:25:45 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 01:28:50 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 01:34:38 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B77901.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:39:54 *** Red71 [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:43:36 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:44:04 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:47:29 <Ayoze> hey, where could I find something about the signals? I've read the wiki and I dont understand anything 01:50:38 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176106160.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 01:58:26 *** Awezome|00 [n=Awe@port757.ds1-suoe.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 02:01:13 *** Awezome|00 [n=Awe@port757.ds1-suoe.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:01:59 *** CobraA2 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:03:22 *** CobraA2 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 02:26:04 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Client Quit] 02:30:27 *** Zothar [n=chatzill@adsl-69-155-218-8.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #openttd 02:36:06 *** ernie__ [n=ernie@c191152.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #openttd 02:38:15 *** ernie_ [n=ernie@c159072.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:59:18 <rain````> Ayoz4e: what dont you understand about signals? 02:59:54 <rain````> they are fairly simple really 03:00:25 <rain````> pre-signal (yellow horizontal rectangle box, 2 lights) means "Green if any special after are green" 03:00:34 <rain````> "red if and only if all special signals are red" 03:00:44 <rain````> if no special signals exist, it acts as a regular signal 03:01:20 <rain````> exit-signal (grey verticle box, 2 lights) is just a regular signal, but acts as a "special one" for pre-signals 03:01:46 <rain````> combo-signals (yellow verticle box, 2 lights) means exactly that, both an exit signal and a presignal 03:02:04 <rain````> so a combo signal is green if any special signals after it are green, and red only when all special signals beyond it are red 03:02:58 <rain````> uses and applications are up to the creative mind really, the simplest use is of course directing traffic into a station 03:08:53 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 03:11:53 *** Forexs- [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:13:12 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit ["Leaving."] 03:14:05 *** dp [n=dp@p54B2E767.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:26:33 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B81EC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 03:30:10 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2E3B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:30:10 *** dp is now known as dp-- 03:31:10 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B362B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 03:34:51 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B84184.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:49:07 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917224.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 04:09:33 *** Pixelz [n=pix@pix.pp.se] has quit ["Disconnecting from stoned server."] 04:15:40 *** Pixelz [n=pix@62.65.104.4] has joined #openttd 04:16:48 *** Belugas [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 04:20:20 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:48:06 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81EC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:02:33 <Celestar> morning 05:04:30 <hector3d> Morning. 05:13:45 *** Zothar [n=chatzill@adsl-69-155-218-8.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]"] 05:16:28 <Celestar> bah the UI sucks 05:16:35 <Celestar> not all clicks end up in the window 05:32:31 <CIA-3> celestar * r4819 /trunk/viewport.c: -Debug: When clicking on a vehicle in the viewport, the index and address of the vehicle get dumped for "misc" debug levels >= 2 05:32:34 <Celestar> me->shower(); 05:36:57 <Celestar> MiHaMiX: flyspray request: I have a filtered list (like only bug reports), when I open a bug report, I want/need some option to return to that filtered list 05:39:20 <Celestar> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/164 <= peter1138 that might be interesting 05:40:17 <blathijs> Celestar: the back button in your browser? 05:40:49 <Celestar> blathijs: that's not the idea, especially if I've done quite some stuff with the bug report 05:41:18 <blathijs> ah, yes :-) 05:41:46 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:42:01 * peter1138 wakes 05:42:54 <Noldo> what's wrong with those pictures? 05:43:11 <Celestar> Noldo: I think that the signalling code SHOULD take reachable paths into account 05:43:16 <Celestar> not for 0.4.8 ... 05:43:46 <peter1138> the depot is also a reeachable path :) 05:44:06 <Celestar> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/150 <= do we want this? 05:44:24 <Celestar> peter1138: does pathfinding for presignals take reachable paths into account? 05:44:32 <Celestar> and we need to decide on how to treat depots 05:44:33 <peter1138> no 05:44:42 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:44:46 <Celestar> peter1138: 0.5.0 or later? and will you do it? ;) 05:44:59 <XeryusTC> Celestar: that has been a known problem for a long time 05:45:03 *** Qball_ [n=qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 05:45:05 <peter1138> kudr made them behave as presignals in yapf 05:45:16 <Celestar> exits? 05:45:16 <XeryusTC> im off 05:45:22 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|school 05:45:30 <peter1138> 150 could be useful 05:45:30 <peter1138> but 05:45:41 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B75561.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:45:47 <Celestar> I'm Strictly Against (TM) defaulting depots as presignal block exits 05:45:52 <peter1138> not with that ugly extern 05:45:59 <Celestar> peter1138: I haven't yet read the patch 05:46:01 <peter1138> Celestar: entrance only, i believe 05:46:07 <Celestar> peter1138: good. 05:46:19 <Celestar> peter1138: I'm taking that patch and "adjust" it later on 05:46:26 <peter1138> exit/combo would defeat the point :) 05:46:29 <peter1138> ok 05:46:49 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:46:53 <Celestar> BBAAAH 05:47:05 <Celestar> MiHaMiX: how can I remove that "post-0.4.7" version number?? 05:47:42 <Noldo> Celestar: the 164 things is a feature that makes priorities possible 05:47:52 <Celestar> Noldo: explain? 05:48:40 <peter1138> Celestar: change any tasks using it 05:48:44 <Noldo> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/Guides:Priorities 05:48:51 <Celestar> MiHaMiX: flyspray request: modify closed tasks 05:49:15 *** Qball [n=qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:49:43 <peter1138> or untick the 'show' button 05:49:51 <peter1138> pretend it doesn't exist :) 05:49:57 <Celestar> true 05:50:00 * peter1138 does so 05:50:02 * Celestar does that. 05:50:04 <Celestar> ok 05:50:05 <Celestar> you first 05:50:07 <peter1138> hehe 05:50:19 <Celestar> note to developers: please no more vague version numbers 05:50:21 <peter1138> seems to work 05:50:21 <blathijs> hmm, but the "priority feature" is really just a hack... 05:50:36 <Celestar> an ugly one on top of that 05:50:56 <blathijs> especially the last one on that page 05:51:16 <Celestar> btw 05:51:34 <Celestar> with new signalling blocks shorter than a train will not make any sense 05:51:50 <Celestar> me->shower(ACTION_RETRY); 05:52:16 <blathijs> :-) 05:52:29 <blathijs> me->shower() == ACTION_FAILED ;-) 05:53:24 <Noldo> before making any changes to signal handling you should map the ways that they are used now. Just to know what you are breaking 05:53:40 <blathijs> true 06:02:40 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 06:14:33 <peter1138> wtf 06:14:37 <peter1138> stupid password 06:14:56 <peter1138> "your password is required to be 6-8 characters with no spaces and no numerics" 06:14:59 <MiHaMiX> Celestar: reopen closed task and modify afterwards 06:15:12 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 06:17:14 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:19:32 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:20:54 <Noldo> could pausing the game while saving help with desyncs caused when saving with old hardwware? 06:23:16 <peter1138> assuming it's the server that's slow 06:24:33 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 06:28:49 <Tron> Noldo: no 06:29:19 <Tron> a desync has nothing to do with something being slow 06:31:00 <peter1138> gah, a lockup 06:36:45 <CIA-3> miham * r4820 /trunk/lang/ (danish.txt german.txt swedish.txt unfinished/russian.txt): 06:36:45 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-05-11 08:30:15 06:36:45 <CIA-3> danish - 11 changed by Bjarni (11) 06:36:45 <CIA-3> german - 1 fixed by Neonox (1) 06:36:45 <CIA-3> swedish - 39 fixed by daishan (39) 06:37:44 <MiHaMiX> russian - Miham experimenting with it :D 06:38:08 <peter1138> \o/ 06:39:25 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: nothing serious, just added the comment #@charset utf-8 into the header :) 06:40:04 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: current russian translation doesn't need utf-8 06:40:24 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: they'll have to redo everything since they used latin chars 06:40:36 <peter1138> not a lot is there anyway 06:42:18 <MiHaMiX> exactly 06:42:31 <MiHaMiX> this will not hurt them too many :D 06:43:55 *** Red437 [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:46:37 <MiHaMiX> Alert! We need galician translator! 06:48:17 <guru3> is that even a language? 06:49:04 <peter1138> garlic 06:49:07 <MiHaMiX> guru3: well, there must be, since there is a galician translation of OpenTTD exists 06:49:17 <guru3> hmm ok 06:49:25 * guru3 is not geography friendly 06:49:25 <MiHaMiX> guru3: but 103 string bad 06:50:08 <MiHaMiX> and I can't contact the old galician translator (his email address no longer exists) 06:50:51 <guru3> oops 06:51:08 *** ernie__ [n=ernie@c191152.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:51:20 <guru3> can you use ~ on elements in an array? 06:52:32 <guru3> in fact, can you use ~ on an unsigned short int? 06:52:37 <guru3> cause it's not working for me :/ 06:52:37 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:52:57 *** Ayoze [n=kvirc@cm-213-141-48-120.telecable.es] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:53:07 <guru3> hmm 06:53:12 <guru3> you have to do x = ~x; 06:53:15 <guru3> can't just do ~x; 06:53:17 <guru3> go figure :/ 06:53:22 <Tobin> Avast! 06:53:53 <peter1138> ~x works 06:54:00 <peter1138> you're just not assigning the result to anything 06:55:26 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 06:55:38 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit ["kthxbye"] 06:59:24 <MiHaMiX> bbl 07:02:14 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:06:07 <guru3> ok 07:12:16 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has quit ["Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it"] 07:12:57 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has joined #openttd 07:15:16 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:20:51 <guru3> can i type cast a struct to an int in c? 07:21:39 <hector3d> I wonder if you manage to override the cast operator in c 07:21:43 <peter1138> with difficultly 07:21:57 <peter1138> you can put both the struct and the int in a union 07:22:54 <guru3> can i make the default int unsigned short instead? 07:28:56 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81EC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 07:33:52 *** guru3 [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has quit ["server relocation"] 07:34:57 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.11.160] has joined #openttd 07:37:45 <ln-> wouldn't this cast a struct to int: int an_int = *((int*)(&my_struct)); 07:38:49 <Noldo> well only the first int size piece of it I guess 07:39:20 <ln-> well yes, but what else can you expect? 07:41:51 <Noldo> how am I suposed to know what you expect and what you don't 07:42:34 <ln-> how am I supposed to know what guru3 was expecting. 07:45:23 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 07:56:42 *** valhallazzzw [n=valhalla@dsl68-30.fastxdsl.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:20:55 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d39.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 08:23:25 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 08:24:25 *** guru3 [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has joined #openttd 08:27:44 <Darkvater> 23:44 < MiHaMiX> ln-: árvíztûrõ tükörfúrógép, a kurva anyád. < muhhahahhaaha. LMAO 08:28:45 <guru3> ? 08:31:10 *** guru3 [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 08:31:26 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-182-83.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 08:31:58 *** guru3 [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has joined #openttd 08:32:20 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 08:32:49 <Celestar> morning 08:32:59 <guru3> good morning Celestar 08:35:07 <peter1138> can translator.openttd.org be made to automagically redirect? 08:35:20 <peter1138> (or is it waiting for wt2 to be out of beta) 08:37:34 <Celestar> peter1138: possibly the latter 08:37:38 <Celestar> Darkvater: ping 08:37:43 <Darkvater> ping-hide 08:37:53 <Celestar> ok to get rid of sortable station lists? ;) 08:38:08 * Darkvater looks at diff 08:38:49 <Darkvater> +#define HAS_SINGLE_BIT(a) ( (a & (a-1)) == 0) 08:39:18 <Darkvater> ( ((a) & ((a)-1)) == 0) 08:39:31 <Darkvater> at least the first one should be 08:39:41 <peter1138> yah 08:40:18 <Darkvater> + Station *st1, *st2; 08:40:18 <Darkvater> + int sum1 = 0, sum2 = 0; 08:40:18 <Darkvater> + int j; 08:40:18 <Darkvater> + st1 = GetStation(((const SortStruct*)a)->index); 08:40:19 <Darkvater> + st2 = GetStation(((const SortStruct*)b)->index); 08:40:23 <Darkvater> const station *st1 and 2 08:40:27 <Darkvater> _const_ 08:41:03 <Darkvater> same for the other sorters 08:41:23 <Darkvater> we usually had them on the same line with the declaration though, but that's just style 08:41:33 <Darkvater> .waiting_acceptance & 0xfff) < still only magic numbers? 08:43:08 <Darkvater> +void BuildStationsList(p < static 08:43:13 *** Celestar [n=Jadzia_D@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:43:20 <Darkvater> ok 08:43:31 <Darkvater> what am I looking through the diff for if he leaves? 08:43:45 <peter1138> doesn't look deliberate ;p 08:44:28 <Darkvater> :) 08:44:33 <Darkvater> I think it is very rude 08:45:17 <Darkvater> ok, action time then 08:50:35 *** Celestar [n=Jadzia_D@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has joined #openttd 08:50:40 <Celestar> gnah 08:50:42 <Celestar> stupid router 08:50:48 <Celestar> Darkvater: did you say anything after my last question? 08:51:03 <Darkvater> yes I did and I am VERY upset 08:51:11 <Darkvater> I am talking to you and you just leave 08:51:18 <Darkvater> do you have ANY idea how rude that is??? 08:51:52 <Celestar> forward(Darkvater.request, Router.operator); 08:52:40 <Darkvater> puh 09:08:35 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-193-37.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 09:09:15 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-193-37.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Client Quit] 09:09:20 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-193-37.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 09:09:46 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-193-37.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Client Quit] 09:09:50 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-193-37.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 09:10:11 <Sacro> woo, that works nicely 09:11:01 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD70DEB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 09:11:20 <Sacro> morning Born_Acorn 09:11:34 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 09:12:41 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD70DEB.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Client Quit] 09:14:54 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD70DEB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 09:15:00 <Born_Acorn> Hello. 09:15:12 <Born_Acorn> That was strange, keyboard didn't work first time around 09:15:15 <Born_Acorn> had to reboot. 09:16:02 <Noldo> oh no! 09:16:07 <Sacro> thats a nasty problem, gives us some peace though 09:26:48 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newsounds! 09:29:50 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81EC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:30:39 *** TiberiusTeng [n=Tibeius@211-74-179-202.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #openttd 09:30:44 <Sacro> Born_Acorn! finish your newgrfs! 09:31:34 <Born_Acorn> I have been doing! 09:31:38 <Born_Acorn> With wood! and cows! 09:33:29 <Sacro> ooooh, uploadage? 09:34:42 <Born_Acorn> http://graphics.tt-terminal.co.uk/newstationstuff.PNG 09:35:12 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3D03C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:36:19 <vondel> do stations get max capactity? (in future) 09:39:07 <vondel> anyways, different storage-space-animations show nicely the status of a station w/o needing to click on it for details 09:43:13 <peter1138> well, there's already a limit 09:46:02 *** WolfLaptop [n=wolf@213.196.14.254] has joined #openttd 09:47:34 <peter1138> hmmz 09:47:46 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3E540.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:47:54 <peter1138> got a server that dies with a machine check exception, if it's cold o_O 09:51:41 <Darkvater> ok I'm off to get some food, then college. BB around 4 I think 09:53:18 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-182-83.vodafone-net.de] has quit ["muss wech"] 09:54:14 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4821 /trunk/newgrf.c: - NewGRF: simplify parameter retrieval in Action 0x0D 09:56:59 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 09:58:32 *** Red924 [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 09:59:40 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 10:02:47 <Celestar> ping? 10:02:47 *** Celestar [n=Jadzia_D@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has quit ["leaving"] 10:03:08 *** ernie_hh [n=ernie@d049103.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #openttd 10:03:11 <ernie_hh> hi 10:06:02 <peter1138> MiHaMiX: lol 10:06:09 <peter1138> "However, OpenTTD developers are hardly working to raise this limitation." 10:06:17 <peter1138> that means we're *not* working 10:06:32 <peter1138> "working hard" :) 10:06:57 <tank_> damn english ;) *run* 10:08:16 <vondel> peter1138: what's the limit on cargo a station can hold at this moment? 10:08:28 <peter1138> 4095 per cargo type 10:08:33 <peter1138> (units) 10:10:00 <vondel> that's a global static max? 10:10:15 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:10:37 <vondel> (just wondering how hard it would be to let it depend on the amount of storage space you build extra in a station) 10:10:49 <Sacro> ive got a reproduceable pathfinding bug in Brianettas Nightly 10:11:02 *** Celestar [n=Jadzia_D@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has joined #openttd 10:11:05 <Celestar> ARGGH 10:11:20 <Celestar> stupid .000+ buck cisco router 10:11:56 <vondel> stupid is unnecesarry when you say cisco ;) 10:12:04 <Celestar> and why the hell does a WWT_PUSHTXTBTN stay depressed :S 10:12:18 <Hendikins> Celestar: grabbing or waiting for 10.1? 10:12:23 <vondel> not enough prozac? 10:12:25 * vondel ducks 10:12:40 <Celestar> Hendikins: I'm just downloading it onto our internal mirror 10:13:00 <Hendikins> Fair enough 10:13:03 * Hendikins holds 10:13:09 <Darkvater> :O 10:13:21 <Darkvater> Celestar: can I dl'd it from your mirror when it's done? :) 10:13:24 <Darkvater> shit I'm not here 10:13:41 <Celestar> Darkvater: overnight, ok 10:13:53 <Celestar> during the day, the load on the fileserver it waaaay to high already 10:14:04 <Celestar> friggin XP 10:14:11 <Celestar> takes 60 minutes to copy 30GB from one HDD to another 10:14:25 <Celestar> Darkvater: I need help with the button problem 10:16:17 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/station_list.diff 10:16:20 <Celestar> or anyone else'S help 10:16:28 <peter1138> vondel: well, 4095 * 12 cargos = ... quite a bit 10:16:44 <peter1138> Celestar: not got the window flags right? 10:17:06 <peter1138> WDF_UNCLICK_BUTTONS, iirc 10:17:37 <vondel> peter1138: was thinking about setting the limit to something like 1024, and add 1024 with every storage building you add, that way normal people wouldn't notice 10:18:55 <Celestar> peter1138: hm? 10:19:55 <Celestar> peter1138: that flag sucks 10:20:02 <Celestar> because it is PER WINDOW :o 10:20:08 <peter1138> yeah 10:20:14 <peter1138> that's why it's a window flag 10:21:31 <Celestar> Darkvater: so, button will not be depressed 10:22:26 *** valhallasw [n=valhalla@dsl68-30.fastxdsl.nl] has joined #openttd 10:24:34 <Celestar> AAARRGHH 10:24:42 <valhallasw> AAARRGHH 10:24:46 <valhallasw> power cuts suck 10:24:52 <Celestar> Windows' software list sucks 10:24:58 <Celestar> you cannot search for a program :S 10:25:47 <SpComb> valhallasw: get a 3000 VA ups 10:25:58 <valhallasw> yeah 10:26:04 <valhallasw> I'm gonna build one sometime 10:26:07 <SpComb> build one? 10:26:12 <valhallasw> yeah 10:26:14 <SpComb> get a refurbished one off ebay for ~300 euros 10:26:22 <valhallasw> ;( 10:26:23 <SpComb> that's what I did the day before yesterday \o/ 10:26:26 <valhallasw> heh 10:26:39 * SpComb will get his hands on it in the summer 10:27:54 <valhallasw> ;( 10:28:59 <peter1138> mmm, summer 10:29:04 <peter1138> the perfect time to melt UPS batteries 10:29:57 <valhallasw> :D 10:33:46 <SpComb> :o 10:33:48 <SpComb> how so? 10:33:57 <SpComb> so how long was your powerout? 10:34:01 <CIA-3> celestar * r4822 /trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): -Feature: Station List View can now be sorted and filtered (by waiting cargo type and facilities) 10:34:03 *** Qball_ is now known as Qball 10:34:06 <Celestar> meep 10:34:19 <SpComb> blop 10:37:10 <Celestar> nice feature #3 added for 0.5.0 10:38:31 <Celestar> hm .. 10:38:44 <Celestar> My 2.1GHz Pentium M seems to be LV model :) 10:38:53 <peter1138> is that good? 10:39:11 <Celestar> well, 10:39:24 <peter1138> (i have no idea what it means) 10:39:26 <Celestar> I can run about 30-40% lower voltages than Spec 10:39:31 <peter1138> ah 10:39:39 <Qball> yep min 1.7 can do that too 10:39:42 <Celestar> which translates into 5-20% more battery life. 10:39:42 <Qball> saves juice 10:39:48 <Celestar> min 1.7 ? 10:39:53 <Qball> mine 10:39:56 <Celestar> ah 10:39:56 <Qball> 1.7 PM 10:40:04 <Celestar> running 0.700V on lower frequency 10:40:07 <Celestar> lowest* 10:40:19 <Celestar> peter1138: feedback on 4822 please 10:40:55 <Celestar> BAH 10:40:58 <peter1138> compiling 10:41:05 <Celestar> forgot to credit Chrishuebsch for it :S 10:41:44 <Celestar> Darkvater: please add his name to the svn log entry :P 10:41:45 <Celestar> *runs* 10:41:48 <Celestar> me->food(); 10:43:23 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176106160.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:44:36 <peter1138> Celestar: bugs! 10:44:40 <Celestar> MiHaMiX: did you get my requests earlier today? 10:44:46 <Celestar> peter1138: I'm not here. 10:44:47 <Celestar> (= 10:44:53 <peter1138> should 'none' be depressed if all is selected? 10:44:54 <peter1138> also 10:45:03 <Celestar> peter1138: yes 10:45:03 <peter1138> the tooltip for none has no colour code, so it changes colour randomly 10:45:15 <Celestar> "none" means no cargo waiting 10:45:16 <MiHaMiX> Celestar: yes, I got, and replied here 10:45:18 <peter1138> (and there's no tooltip for 'all') 10:45:22 <peter1138> ok 10:45:43 <Celestar> MiHaMiX: please re-put the replies, I was booted. 10:45:47 <Celestar> peter1138: damnit 10:46:01 <peter1138> Celestar: gives you a change to fix and credit him ;) 10:46:10 <MiHaMiX> [[08:15]] <MiHaMiX> Celestar: reopen closed task and modify afterwards 10:46:41 <MiHaMiX> oh, shit, sorry folks, got another task with FLASH priority 10:46:50 <peter1138> :( 10:46:53 <Celestar> peter1138: what about "ALL" ? 10:47:06 <Celestar> any idea for a decent tooltip 10:47:11 <Celestar> I think it is quite obvious 10:47:36 <peter1138> "Display all cargo types" or something 10:48:10 <Celestar> that tooltip is weird 10:48:17 <Celestar> ok will fix later on. 10:49:11 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040505]"] 10:52:18 <Celestar> 7GB of SuSE is downloaded \o/ 10:53:21 *** WolfLaptop [n=wolf@213.196.14.254] has quit ["I'm gone, bye bye :)"] 10:54:51 <valhallasw> suse :r 10:55:40 *** fusee [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #openttd 10:58:38 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4716.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 11:03:42 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-110-97.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:06:42 *** WolfLaptop [n=wolf@213.196.14.254] has joined #openttd 11:15:05 *** fusey [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:15:06 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 11:16:07 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 11:17:24 <Celestar> WERE is that damn tooltip for the "none" button :S 11:17:30 <Celestar> WHERE even 11:18:08 <Celestar> AH! 11:18:32 <peter1138> ········w->widget[NUM_CARGO + 12].tooltips = STR_01A9_NONE; 11:18:33 <peter1138> o_O 11:18:36 <Celestar> yeah 11:18:38 <Celestar> just removing it 11:18:43 <peter1138> now that is dodgy coding :P 11:19:25 <peter1138> and you need to add a {BLACK}None, of course 11:19:31 <Celestar> yeah 11:21:26 <Celestar> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/160 <= this is kidna strange 11:22:34 <Sacro> Celestar: its true though 11:22:44 <Celestar> yes I know 11:23:15 <Sacro> ahh, the bug :) 11:23:45 <Sacro> Celestar: select and deselect a tree type, then you can click on town info 11:24:12 <Celestar> peter1138: better? 11:24:12 <CIA-3> celestar * r4823 /trunk/ (lang/english.txt station_gui.c): 11:24:12 <CIA-3> -Fix: Improved tooltips for sortable station lists. 11:24:12 <CIA-3> -Credit: Chrishuebsch for initial idea and implementation of station filters 11:25:17 <peter1138> erm 11:25:26 <peter1138> window for placing trees 11:25:31 <peter1138> click on city name 11:25:33 <peter1138> it works for me 11:25:48 <Celestar> 1500 revisions since start-of-year 11:25:48 <Sacro> hmm, the radio just said how easy it is to find details on how to make a bomb online, it's true 11:25:51 <peter1138> unless you've got the highlight on 11:25:58 <peter1138> in which case, clicking on anything does nothing 11:26:04 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 11:26:13 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50c79ac1.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 11:26:16 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 11:26:16 <peter1138> basically it shouldn't put it into highlight mode yet 11:26:23 <Sacro> peter1138: yeah, thats what i was about to type 11:26:42 <Celestar> the bug is basically that select mode is entered EVEN if no tree type is selected. 11:27:50 <Celestar> we have no tree_gui :S 11:28:13 <peter1138> that's another bug :) 11:28:28 <Celestar> Task post 0.5.0: rip main_gui and misc_gui apart and put stuff into proper files 11:29:13 <Celestar> UnclickSomeWindowButtons <= Task post 0.5.0: give functions proper names 11:31:29 *** gradator [n=gradator@cryogenia.devnullteam.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:32:41 <Celestar> we don'T have a landscape_gui.c either :S 11:33:15 <Celestar> ahhh terrafprm_gui 11:34:30 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 11:34:39 <peter1138> heh 11:34:40 *** gradator [n=gradator@cryogenia.devnullteam.org] has joined #openttd 11:36:39 <Celestar> peter1138: RFC: http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/treewin.diff 11:37:12 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Client Quit] 11:37:19 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917224.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:37:56 <peter1138> ah 11:38:34 <peter1138> indeed 11:39:08 <Celestar> but: that tree button does not stay depressed :S 11:39:20 <peter1138> does it need to? 11:39:23 <Celestar> other option: select tree #0 by default. 11:39:34 <peter1138> hmm 11:39:36 <Celestar> but I think this option is better. 11:40:03 <Celestar> because opposed to i.e. build-station-windows it is possible to select nothing 11:40:07 *** gradator [n=gradator@cryogenia.devnullteam.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:40:18 <peter1138> well 11:40:24 <peter1138> yeah 11:40:25 <peter1138> hmm 11:40:47 *** gradator [n=gradator@cryogenia.devnullteam.org] has joined #openttd 11:40:59 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917224.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 11:41:08 <Celestar> so? opinions 11:41:16 <peter1138> compiling :P 11:41:34 * Celestar agrees 11:45:23 <Celestar> Skipped missing target: 'town_map.h' <= I hate that crap 11:45:46 <peter1138> ? 11:45:52 *** gradator [n=gradator@cryogenia.devnullteam.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:46:43 *** fusee [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:47:31 *** gradator [n=gradator@cryogenia.devnullteam.org] has joined #openttd 11:47:47 <Celestar> WHY does it skip ? 11:48:49 <Celestar> ah I know 11:51:57 <Celestar> svn: Cannot replace a directory from within 11:52:00 <Celestar> :S 11:53:39 *** gradator [n=gradator@cryogenia.devnullteam.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:54:07 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 11:54:25 <Celestar> GNAH 11:55:14 *** gradator [n=gradator@cryogenia.devnullteam.org] has joined #openttd 11:55:43 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 11:55:48 <Celestar> bah 11:55:53 *** fusee [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #openttd 11:55:57 <Celestar> I should update cargopackets at some point 11:58:56 <Sacro> whoo cargopackets 11:59:28 <Celestar> peter1138: http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/netplayer.diff <= RFC 12:03:01 *** fusee is now known as fusey 12:03:47 <Celestar> weee 12:03:51 <Celestar> 1500 undefined references 12:06:18 *** Red924 [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:19:15 *** Serotonin___ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:22:28 <Celestar> so that was a real conversation killer :P 12:22:46 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81EC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:22:55 <Celestar> I need more testing of the bridge stuff. 12:23:07 <Celestar> maybe I should just put up binaries on the forum 12:23:40 <Sacro> yeah, it tends to get things tested 12:24:10 <Celestar> but I'd need someone to put up windows binaries 12:25:18 <Celestar> AMD will release an X2 4000+ :) 12:25:55 <Sacro> whoo, nice 12:26:07 <Sacro> if i'd got round to setting up cygwin i'd do you some 12:29:15 <peter1138> KUDr: ping 12:29:24 <KUDr_wrk> pong 12:29:24 <hylje> http://www.google.com/trends?q=goatse&ctab=1&date=all&geo=all 12:29:26 <hylje> :< 12:29:44 <peter1138> will yapf support reversing trains? (or is that not a PF thing) 12:29:50 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:30:13 <KUDr_wrk> what it does mean "reversing trains"? 12:30:34 <peter1138> train consists going backward 12:30:38 <peter1138> instead of turning around 12:30:45 <KUDr_wrk> aha 12:30:49 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:30:53 <KUDr_wrk> this is train controller thing 12:30:58 <KUDr_wrk> but 12:31:15 <KUDr_wrk> IsFirstEngine() will return what? 12:31:32 <peter1138> *shrug* 12:31:32 <KUDr_wrk> last wagon (front one now) or engine? 12:31:37 <Celestar> the thing the driver sits in :) 12:31:40 <peter1138> i've not thought that far :) 12:31:43 <KUDr_wrk> IsFrontEngine 12:31:45 <KUDr_wrk> sorry 12:31:50 <Celestar> I think we'Re talking 0.6.0 12:31:53 <Celestar> like newsignalling 12:32:10 <KUDr_wrk> ok 12:32:26 <Bjarni> FrontEngine is where the driver is. It do not have to have engine power on it's own (though that's the most common case) 12:32:26 <KUDr_wrk> so if you will need support in yapf for it, count with me 12:32:31 <hylje> programmable signals? :o 12:32:50 <peter1138> Bjarni: true 12:33:01 <peter1138> Bjarni: we could just switch the ->next pointers around... 12:33:03 <peter1138> hmm 12:33:06 <peter1138> "Just" hehe 12:33:48 <Bjarni> I once hacked the game to let a wagon behave like an engine (to see what happened). It ended up as a train with 0 HP, so I tried to let it drive. Surprisingly, it gained speed and worked like a normal train 12:33:51 <KUDr_wrk> I need to get first car in the train list 12:33:56 <Bjarni> it just accelerated very slowly 12:34:08 <Sacro> we need reversable consists 12:34:10 <KUDr_wrk> and now it also must be a front one 12:34:12 <peter1138> Bjarni: it should be simpler now with things like cached power etc 12:34:17 <Sacro> as well as being able to seperate engines and wagons 12:34:31 <vondel> oho, next we get the loose-wagon-disaster 12:34:48 <Bjarni> http://www.student.dtu.dk/~s991088/BR01_reversed.png <-- remember this one? 12:34:50 <KUDr_wrk> Sacro: consist is reversable by reordering the list 12:34:57 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 12:34:58 <Bjarni> I set the FrontEngine flag for the tender 12:35:08 <Bjarni> but it was a hack and was very buggy 12:35:59 <peter1138> heh 12:36:00 <Celestar> peter1138: RFC on the two diffs :) 12:36:03 <peter1138> hmm 12:36:05 <Sacro> KUDr_wrk: but will that allow a train to go backwards, rather than turn round? 12:36:06 <Celestar> Bjarni: any progress on the clone front? 12:36:12 <peter1138> Celestar: yes, good (when separate :)) 12:36:27 <Celestar> peter1138: they ARE separate. want me to commit both? 12:36:55 <Bjarni> <Celestar> Bjarni: any progress on the clone front? <-- yeah, I'm currently testing if my fix works 12:37:11 <KUDr_wrk> Sacro: train has only one "front" - this is the first car in the list - if it will be last wagon, it will go in opposite direction 12:37:12 <Celestar> Bjarni: ok :) 12:37:51 <peter1138> hmm 12:38:24 <Sacro> what about having seperable wagons and engines, and having run-arounds in stations? 12:38:24 <peter1138> articulated parts only need special handling in the depot code / trainconsistchanged 12:38:28 <peter1138> hmmm 12:38:32 <Bjarni> it works :D 12:39:10 <peter1138> Celestar: oskar's asking after you 12:39:13 <Celestar> he is? 12:39:16 <Celestar> I'm comming 12:40:10 *** Serotonin___ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:41:08 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4824 /trunk/newgrf.c: - NewGRF: add support for getting/setting miscellaneous grf flags (param 0x9E) 12:42:26 <CIA-3> bjarni * r4825 /trunk/ (train_cmd.c vehicle.c): 12:42:26 <CIA-3> -Fix: [autoreplace] FS#159 Game crashes when cloning reaches train-limit 12:42:26 <CIA-3> as a side effect, only the front engine gets a number assigned, so now we save a loop though all vehicles for each engine in addition to the front one 12:42:26 <CIA-3> This speeds up cloning a bit, specially in late games 12:43:42 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:44:16 <Bjarni> vondel: now you should be able to clone trains even though you are close to the limit :) 12:44:39 *** Serotonin___ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:45:02 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B37548.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:45:32 <vondel> yay 12:45:49 <vondel> time to find a new bug :) 12:46:48 <Bjarni> well, if you can only find bugs, where the fix have to speed up the code in order to work, then I guess it's ok ;) 12:48:36 <vondel> the code runs faster now ? 12:49:08 <Bjarni> yeah 12:49:22 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 12:49:27 <Bjarni> I saved a loop though all vehicles for each engine in addition to the first one 12:50:32 <Bjarni> so if you got 11 engines in a train, it saves 10*60k vehicles (given that it's really late game and it got 60k vehicles), then it saved looping though 600k vehicles when cloning that train 12:50:43 <Bjarni> normally the gain will be smaller, but still, it's there 12:51:05 <vondel> nice you have fixed it by making the code simpler 12:51:13 <vondel> at least i hope that's the case 12:51:43 <Celestar> peter1138: got a sec? 12:51:50 <Bjarni> I added an additional if, so it's a bit more complex, but still readable (I hope) 12:52:14 *** Aeoris [n=Aeoris@62-15-90-96.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 12:54:19 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:55:29 <Bjarni> hmm 12:55:40 <Bjarni> why did I type [autoreplace], when I fixed a bug in cloning? 12:55:44 <Bjarni> :p 12:56:02 <vondel> could it happen also in autoreplace? 12:56:11 <Bjarni> hmm 12:56:12 <peter1138> Celestar: yeah 12:56:14 <Bjarni> maybe 12:56:17 <Bjarni> checking 12:56:38 <Bjarni> if it can happen, then I will fix it and write [cloning] in the svn log, then I'm even 12:56:45 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["And he disappears, like a fox, in the night."] 12:57:20 <peter1138> don't :P 12:57:23 <Bjarni> well, it would not assert, just fail 12:57:24 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:57:29 <peter1138> get Darkvater to change the log 12:57:37 <Bjarni> Darkvater: ping 12:57:46 <Bjarni> Darkvater: I did something stupid to the svn log :s 12:58:43 <vondel> it's associated with a bug#id 12:59:04 <Bjarni> it's not a fatal error, but still, it's incorrect 12:59:08 <vondel> yup 12:59:52 <vondel> i don't fix my commit-messages when i do something stupid when commit'ing a bit of my research 12:59:52 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:59:57 <Bjarni> I wonder, now I can make autoreplace faster as well, but to make the code readable (and fast), it would be easiest if the new vehicle gets the same number as the old one 13:00:00 <Bjarni> would that be ok? 13:00:45 <vondel> if some crazy player is watching vehicle #237, then keeping the same number would be better 13:01:03 <Bjarni> ok 13:01:15 <Bjarni> replacing 1 -> 3 and then I solved that 13:01:42 <Bjarni> and a line to copy the old vehicle's number to the new one, and then I'm done with this improvement 13:04:53 <peter1138> burp 13:06:53 <Celestar> peter1138: ah forget it 13:07:06 <Celestar> peter1138: otoh, what about commit those 2 minidiffs? 13:16:00 <peter1138> your call 13:16:18 <peter1138> or am i the boss now? ;p 13:16:27 <peter1138> tree fix is good 13:16:46 <peter1138> console feature... it's a console feature, some people want it, it can't hurt much 13:20:58 * peter1138 > lunch 13:23:20 <Rubidium> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25077 <- nice bug; location of station gets set to [0,0], so DeliverGoods calculates the distance from the top of the map, instead of the original location of the station 13:25:19 <vondel> o yeah, disappearing station-names/locations are a bit of a problem 13:25:24 <vondel> also with news-items 13:26:09 <Sacro> cant it reference the station by its position and then look up its name from that? 13:26:47 <Rubidium> not if it is removed 13:26:49 <peter1138> Rubidium: old and known about too ;) 13:27:39 <Rubidium> but still, it's a nice way (uhm cheat?) to make lots of money on a huge maps 13:27:50 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:27:50 <vondel> the clean way would be that the sign is only removed when there's nothing referencing it anymore 13:28:23 <Sacro> or that trains with "void order" dont make a profit 13:28:53 <vondel> no 13:29:34 <vondel> isn't someone working a describing the load with packages, or something? 13:29:43 <vondel> it prob includes the time/location of origin 13:30:05 <Rubidium> probably the original station too 13:30:06 <Sacro> yeah, cargopackets 13:31:23 <CIA-3> bjarni * r4826 /trunk/ (5 files): 13:31:23 <CIA-3> -Fix: [autoreplace] fixed possible problem when autoreplacing and was number of vehicles (of a type, not total) was reached 13:31:23 <CIA-3> now the new vehicle gets the same number as the old one, completely removing the problem where we could run out of numbers 13:31:23 <CIA-3> since we don't have to find free numbers for the new vehicles, autoreplace should be somewhat faster, specially in late games 13:31:27 <CIA-3> NOTE: in CmdBuildRailVehicle(), bit 0 and 1 in p2 have been switched to make the meaning of bit 0 consistent with the other build commands. CmdCloneVehicle() is modified to follow this as well 13:43:10 <Darkvater> so backk0rz 13:43:18 <Bjarni> Darkvater! 13:43:27 <Bjarni> I screwed up in the commit log :( 13:43:54 <Bjarni> [14:42] <CIA-3> bjarni * r4825 /trunk/ (train_cmd.c vehicle.c): 13:43:54 *** Serotonin___ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:43:54 <Bjarni> [14:42] <CIA-3> -Fix: [autoreplace] FS#159 Game crashes when cloning reaches train-limit 13:44:05 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:44:10 <Bjarni> it should be [clone vehicles], not autoreplace 13:44:13 <Bjarni> can you fix that? 13:45:26 <Bjarni> MiHaMiX: I found a bug in WT2. m^3 is displayed as m? when I'm supposed to translate it, so it's kind of hard to translate 13:45:50 <Bjarni> however, the string don't need any translation. SI units tend to be the same in Danish :) 13:45:59 <Bjarni> (and most other languages as well) 13:46:06 *** TL|Busy is now known as TL|Away 13:46:53 <Bjarni> nice, TL|Away is back 13:46:56 <Bjarni> more or less 13:49:28 <Darkvater> Bjarni: yeah 13:49:44 <Darkvater> is it just me or are bjarni's commit messages a bit strange in general? :) 13:50:45 <vondel> i find them understandable, but i'm not a dev'er 13:52:00 <Darkvater> Bjarni: so in r4825 what caused the crash? 13:53:08 <Darkvater> cause all I see is an addition of build_argument but no fix? 13:53:10 *** Sacro is now known as Sacro|AFK 13:54:52 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:55:06 <Bjarni> build_argument is part of the fix 13:55:15 <Darkvater> but how? 13:55:22 <Darkvater> how does it not crash? 13:55:37 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["Clonage"] 13:55:38 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 13:55:49 <Bjarni> basically setting build_argument to 3 instead of 1 will make the build command "forget" to assign a number and the crash was when it ran out of numbers 13:56:04 <Darkvater> so you fixed nothing? 13:56:11 <Bjarni> I did fix it 13:56:12 <Darkvater> just postponed the problem 13:56:16 <Bjarni> no 13:56:28 <Bjarni> say I got the train A-B 13:56:39 <Bjarni> both are engines, but not dualheaded 13:56:44 <Bjarni> I clone the train 13:56:55 <Bjarni> A2 gets a new number 13:57:08 <Bjarni> now we are out of new numbers (max trains) 13:57:48 <Bjarni> B2 can't get a number and will fail, which would lead to the assert, but since we skip the number thing and just assign it 0 and move to the back of A2 instantly, it will work 13:57:48 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-255-42.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 13:58:03 <Bjarni> simple, once you understand the problem 13:58:24 <Bjarni> the fix is extremely short (codewise), but it works 13:58:29 <Darkvater> eh 13:58:36 <Darkvater> so what if A2 can't get a new number? 13:58:53 <vondel> then i guess B2 won't be build 13:59:02 <Bjarni> then it will fail and return CMD_ERROR when testing, which will not cause an assert 13:59:04 <Darkvater> so how does that not crash and B2 does? 13:59:10 <Darkvater> besides assert != crash 13:59:54 <Bjarni> because it tests if it can assign a free number to A2 (it can), then it tests for B2 and it still can. Then it builds A2 and tries to build B2, but it fails because A2 just took the last free number 14:00:13 <Bjarni> the test and execute will then not produce the same return value and it will assert 14:00:45 <Darkvater> cmd-sanity :) 14:01:07 <Bjarni> do you get the problem now? 14:02:56 <Darkvater> yea 14:04:21 <Darkvater> hehe I think opensuse.org is getting hammered ;p 14:05:26 <CIA-3> celestar * r4827 /trunk/terraform_gui.c: -Fix (FS#160) In the terraform toolbar, don't treat the plant tree button as place-push-button, because it isn't 14:06:15 <peter1138> backness 14:08:04 <CIA-3> celestar * r4828 /trunk/ (console_cmds.c network.h): -Feature (FS#150) Add a new console command "players" that lists current players along with basic stats (ledow) 14:08:40 <Celestar> nice nice 14:10:40 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 14:10:54 <Darkvater> Celestar: do I need to change 4822 to say chris? 14:11:27 <Celestar> Darkvater: ? 14:11:32 <Darkvater> the tooltip for str_no-cargo_waiting is bogus 14:11:37 <Darkvater> Celestar: to credit him 14:11:42 <Darkvater> or 4823 bettered that? 14:14:59 <Celestar> Darkvater: as you wish 14:15:06 <Celestar> if we put him in the changelog later on .. 14:15:22 <Darkvater> you know the changelog is anon 14:15:29 <Celestar> er . 14:15:30 <Celestar> right 14:15:34 <Celestar> that'S ok then 14:16:23 <Darkvater> bah 14:16:27 <peter1138> booh 14:16:39 <Darkvater> can't make the station-sort by button depressable 14:16:45 <Darkvater> too much fucking magic going on with the buttons 14:17:08 <peter1138> hmm 14:17:26 <peter1138> this sounds like a call for... 14:17:31 <peter1138> Matt-W! 14:17:36 <Darkvater> *pom*pom* 14:18:41 <Celestar> Darkvater: you can change a window flag to make it depressable ... 14:18:50 <Darkvater> eh have you tried? 14:18:52 <Celestar> yeah 14:18:59 <Darkvater> so you know it's not doable 14:19:03 <Celestar> but that WINDOW flag un-depresses ALL buttons :S 14:19:13 <Celestar> kudos to whoever coded that 14:19:17 <peter1138> :/ 14:20:11 <peter1138> ... 14:20:16 <peter1138> hmm 14:20:34 <peter1138> store their depressed state in a WP(w,foo) value 14:20:46 <peter1138> then set the clicked state on redraw 14:20:46 * Darkvater is looking at it 14:20:48 <peter1138> (hack!) 14:21:40 <Darkvater> Error: !invalid string id 0 in GetString 14:21:41 <Darkvater> yeah 14:22:01 <peter1138> !invalid 14:22:58 <Darkvater> DrawString(x + 3, y + 2, _cargoc.names_short[i], i == 11 ? 15 : 16); 14:22:59 <Darkvater> grrrr 14:23:10 <Darkvater> this fuckin sucks 14:24:35 <CIA-3> bjarni * r4829 /trunk/vehicle.c: -Codechage: [clone vehilces] only check for a free unitnumber for the first engine in the test run as well as execute run (to improve speed. The result should be unchanged) 14:25:20 <Celestar> Bjarni: !!! 14:25:27 <Celestar> V E H I C L E S 14:25:28 <Bjarni> Celestar: !!! 14:25:35 <Bjarni> crap 14:25:37 <Bjarni> typo 14:25:52 <Bjarni> Darkvater: I need your help again >_< 14:25:59 * Darkvater waves to bjarni 14:26:11 <Darkvater> Celestar: I don't think though that that flag depresses ALL buttons 14:26:32 <Darkvater> just look at the minimap for example. If you press the 'resize' button the map selection is not getting depressed 14:26:54 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 14:30:46 <Celestar> Darkvater: possible 14:31:04 <Sacro|AFK> god its hot :| 14:32:14 <Darkvater> Celestar: or the main gui even. landscape keeps depressed while you click on a menu-item 14:32:29 <Darkvater> eh intro-gui 14:32:38 <peter1138> Celestar: any chance "players" can display something if there are no players? 14:33:07 <Bjarni> hmm 14:33:11 <Bjarni> what to do next... 14:33:21 <peter1138> Bjarni: any chance "players" can display something if there are no players? 14:33:23 <peter1138> ;p 14:33:42 <Bjarni> I translated some stuff, I fixed the bug I said I would fix and fixed stuff that nobody requested (yet it was nice to fix anyway) 14:33:55 <Bjarni> hmm 14:34:03 <Bjarni> peter1138: "players"? 14:34:11 <peter1138> console command 14:34:15 <Bjarni> oh 14:34:27 <Bjarni> never touched that 14:35:01 <Bjarni> except for before I got the autoreplace GUI to work and that was more than a year ago, so I have forgotten what I did :p 14:35:38 <Bjarni> and I'm not really into learning new parts of the code today 14:36:04 <Bjarni> you see, I had a deadline for a report today. I handed it in in time, but it was a long night :/ 14:38:56 <peter1138> hmm, i need to differentiate between -1 and 'not supported' 14:43:25 <Celestar> peter1138: what is it supposed to display? 14:43:41 <Darkvater> Celestar: ah, it uses a dirty trick to get them pressed :) 14:43:45 <peter1138> just something to let you know that it did do the command 14:50:29 <Celestar> Darkvater: we should add a flag PER WIDGET? 14:50:39 <Celestar> Darkvater: have you seen my TODOs above? 14:51:23 <Darkvater> where above? 14:51:28 <Celestar> far above :P 14:51:36 <Celestar> ok 14:52:03 <Celestar> TODO: rip apart main_gui.c and misc_gui.c and put stuff in better-named files 14:52:22 <Celestar> TODO: UnclickSomeWindowButtons <= give some functions proper names 14:52:41 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:53:02 <Darkvater> voila, fixed your buttons 14:53:07 <Darkvater> and even got clearer and shorter code 14:53:25 <Celestar> hm? 14:55:33 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/station_list_fix.diff 14:56:00 <Darkvater> I moved the whole thing into WE_PAINT instead of fucking around with the click-events the whole time 14:56:50 <Darkvater> tfarago@Arrakis:/pub/openttd> grep "^-" bla | wc -l 14:56:50 <Darkvater> 57 14:56:50 <Darkvater> tfarago@Arrakis:/pub/openttd> grep "^+" bla | wc -l 14:56:50 <Darkvater> 24 14:58:00 <Darkvater> Celestar: do you have the 10.1 DVD? 14:58:06 <Celestar> Darkvater: there are no DVDs yet 14:58:09 <Darkvater> or can I download all the CD's and merge them into the dvd 14:58:19 <Celestar> there is such a script yes, 14:58:29 <Darkvater> very well 14:58:52 <peter1138> +·······if (cargo_filter == 0x1FFF) { 14:58:52 <peter1138> +···········SETBIT(w->click_state, 27); 14:58:52 <peter1138> +·······} else { 14:58:52 <peter1138> +···········CLRBIT(w->click_state, 27); 14:58:52 <peter1138> +·······} 14:59:09 <peter1138> we need a function that'll set or clr based on a parameter 14:59:24 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:59:28 <peter1138> fooBIT(w->click_state, 27, cargo_filter == 0x1FFF); 14:59:38 <peter1138> SB()'ll do it... 15:00:39 <Darkvater> Celestar: comments about the diff? 15:00:50 <Darkvater> peter1138: I don't like the name fooBIT :) 15:01:01 <peter1138> aww ;p 15:01:36 <Darkvater> bleh opensuse torrent seems dead 15:02:13 <Darkvater> SB(a,b,bool) :P 15:02:28 <Darkvater> what you said but we needa force the value to be a bool 15:02:33 <Darkvater> or just use sb 15:02:34 <Darkvater> hmm 15:02:46 <Darkvater> no force 15:03:06 <Darkvater> because of some idiotic archs like PPC that don't know the meaning of a bool 15:03:41 *** glx [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:03:45 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-196-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:04:19 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 15:04:46 <peter1138> heh 15:04:58 <peter1138> SB(a, b, 1, bool) 15:05:05 <Darkvater> SB(w->click_state, 27, 1, cargo_filter == 0x1FFF); 15:05:12 <peter1138> *nod* 15:05:14 <Darkvater> exactly 15:05:16 <peter1138> one line instead of 5 15:05:23 <Darkvater> 2 instead of 10 ^^ 15:05:28 <peter1138> hee 15:05:52 <peter1138> tfarago@Arrakis:/pub/openttd> grep "^+" bla | wc -l 15:05:53 <peter1138> 16 15:05:56 <peter1138> ;p 15:05:58 <Darkvater> ;p 15:06:01 <Darkvater> Celestar: comments/ 15:06:02 <Darkvater> ? 15:08:14 *** Jango [n=Jango@mettab.demon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:08:38 <Darkvater> hi Jango 15:08:43 <Darkvater> what happened to cel? 15:09:35 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:13:29 *** WolfLaptop [n=wolf@213.196.14.254] has quit ["I'm gone, bye bye :)"] 15:14:31 <peter1138> hmm 15:14:53 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4830 /trunk/station_gui.c: - Codechange: simplify station sorting a bit by recalculating the clicked-states on drawing the window. This also allows the 'Sort by' button to be visually clickable 15:14:58 <peter1138> Darkvater: should i use a global var or a reference parameter? 15:15:10 <Darkvater> for? 15:15:38 <peter1138> in the newgrf variable resolver, i need to flag whether the variable exists 15:15:43 <Darkvater> ugh 6 more hours for suse 10.1 15:15:44 <peter1138> currently it's done by returning -1 15:15:49 <peter1138> but that's a valid value 15:16:00 <Darkvater> then return 0.1 15:16:03 <peter1138> :P 15:16:03 <Darkvater> ;p 15:16:14 <Jango> Darkvater: hi 15:16:15 <Jango> sorry 15:16:18 <Jango> just looked 15:16:18 <peter1138> so i can set a global var, or pass a local var around 15:17:19 <Darkvater> hmm global vars are ugly. perhaps returnn true/false on existing and handle the rest by refs 15:17:22 <Darkvater> ? 15:17:40 <peter1138> so pass the actual value by ref? 15:17:54 <peter1138> hmm 15:18:08 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 15:18:18 <Darkvater> well if you are passing you should pass that and not the exist/non-exist val 15:18:33 <peter1138> that makes more sense, hee 15:18:36 <peter1138> but 15:18:53 <peter1138> i've got a *lot* of 'return value;' 15:18:59 <peter1138> which would need to be changed 15:20:47 <peter1138> could macroise it, perhaps, but... 15:20:55 <Brianetta> Just write it to a file. 15:21:03 <peter1138> good idea 15:21:05 <Brianetta> If there;s a bad way to do it, I can find worse. 15:21:14 <Darkvater> hehe 15:21:18 <peter1138> then i can have True, False and FileNotFound 15:21:19 <Darkvater> you should write it to the registry 15:21:30 <Brianetta> I don't have a registry ): 15:21:52 <Brianetta> peter1138: FileNotFound should just assert() 15:21:57 <Darkvater> hmm 15:22:04 <Darkvater> peter1138: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25080&highlight= 15:22:44 <peter1138> that's what i'm doing now ;p 15:23:04 <Darkvater> oh 15:23:08 <Darkvater> so what happened theer? 15:23:22 <Jango> maybe you need to require the user to hold up his hand if true, and keep it down if false 15:23:35 <peter1138> incomplete support, that's all 15:24:15 <peter1138> var 42 not supported == return -1 == all cargos present == freight train! 15:24:47 <Darkvater> peter1138: also in ottd: 'sicherheitstransporter' for the 'armoured van' :) 15:24:57 <peter1138> hmm? 15:25:25 <peter1138> hmm, so it is 15:25:30 <Darkvater> I have an armoured van in the rail vehicles buy-list but it's in german? 15:25:55 <peter1138> yeah, looking now 15:26:09 <Sacro|AFK> w00t /me is an alpha tester for Defcon :D 15:26:40 <peter1138> hmm 15:26:56 <peter1138> strange 15:27:24 <peter1138> all vehicles other than that one have english french and spanish translations too 15:27:26 <Brianetta> newgrf *is* strange 15:27:35 <Brianetta> That's why people like DaleStan like it so much (: 15:27:52 <Eddi|zuHause> i always assumed that reused an existing string 15:28:02 <Eddi|zuHause> because it was the only thing in german all the time 15:28:05 <Darkvater> so that one has no translation? 15:28:20 <peter1138> hmm, probably a flaw in our text handling 15:28:23 <Eddi|zuHause> it did not bother me much ;) 15:28:32 <peter1138> ttdp only loads the text for the language in use 15:28:46 <peter1138> we load them all, because we can switch language as we please 15:29:02 <Darkvater> :O we stole multiple languages! 15:29:40 <peter1138> ····/* Use the first text if the specific language isn't available */ 15:29:41 <hylje> so if a translation is incomplete will it fallback to english 15:29:56 <peter1138> hylje: yeah, but this string doesn't have an english version 15:29:58 <peter1138> so it uses the first 15:30:01 <peter1138> which is... german 15:30:46 <Eddi|zuHause> so is that a bug in the dbsetxl? 15:31:42 <peter1138> it's probably perfectly valid in ttdpatch 15:31:51 <peter1138> it'll just ignore the string if it's the wrong language 15:32:22 <peter1138> hmm 15:32:34 <peter1138> AddGRFString needs a default parameter, i think 15:32:42 <peter1138> so we can tell it what the default should be 15:34:34 <Brianetta> "Thingummyjig" perhaps? 15:35:06 <peter1138> or we can ignore strings which aren't in the current language and lose the ability to switch 15:35:18 <peter1138> hurr, not nice 15:36:42 <Darkvater> isn't it best to just fall back to the standard thext in the current language-s .lng file? 15:40:06 <peter1138> yes 15:40:20 <peter1138> but at this point we don't know the original string id 15:40:26 <peter1138> so i'm adding it 15:43:42 *** Andrew67 [i=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 15:45:17 <peter1138> ugh 15:45:30 <peter1138> yet another dependency on strings.h 15:45:33 <peter1138> table/strings.h that is 15:48:47 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 15:49:43 *** Hallo [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #openttd 15:51:22 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:53:17 *** stillunknown [n=unknown@82-168-179-194.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 15:54:37 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 16:04:50 <peter1138> ok, fixed that 16:04:59 <peter1138> damn you 16:05:04 <peter1138> i'm getting no work done :P 16:05:44 * valhallasw distracts peter1138 16:06:27 <Brianetta> valhallasw: Have you seen the sandbox lately? 16:06:36 <Brianetta> Our newest n00bs have been fixing it 16:06:39 <Brianetta> or trying to 16:07:10 <valhallasw> last time was in the weekend 16:07:17 <valhallasw> the trains were running at that time 16:07:34 <Brianetta> I sold at least 400 trains 16:07:45 <Brianetta> Man, we need an "empty depot" button 16:08:03 <Brianetta> I'm glad I didn't have to do each wagon 16:08:12 <valhallasw> :) 16:08:46 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 16:08:54 <valhallasw> i'll take a look 16:09:16 <valhallasw> i've been playing lots of oblivion lately ;) 16:09:35 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040400]"] 16:09:47 <Brianetta> I think a UKRS game with lots of newstations would be cool (: 16:09:49 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4831 /branch/yapf/yapf/ (yapf_base.hpp yapf_costrail.hpp): 16:09:49 <CIA-3> [YAPF] Fix: first red COMBO signal now gives the same penalty as EXIT (thanks DW) 16:09:49 <CIA-3> Debug: added path cost / distance to the log 16:10:06 <valhallasw> yeah 16:10:07 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 16:10:13 <Brianetta> The wagon speed limits would make players have to think about priority, relief lines and so on 16:11:06 <valhallasw> yeah 16:11:10 <valhallasw> I'd hate it ;) 16:11:15 <Brianetta> heh 16:11:23 <Brianetta> THen when new wagons came out... 16:11:24 <Brianetta> hahah 16:11:28 <Brianetta> oh, the fun 16:11:43 <Brianetta> The network would definitely have character 16:12:09 <Brianetta> but of course, liek every opentdcoop game, it'd end up being a boring late-game that doesn't even get trains until 2090 16:12:21 <valhallasw> gheh 16:12:36 <valhallasw> we've got money cheats? ;) 16:12:44 <Brianetta> Yes 16:12:48 <peter1138> Brianetta: ukwaypointsw.grf! 16:13:00 <Brianetta> peter1138: More? You already have 5 16:13:10 <peter1138> but they're Born_Acorn's 16:13:10 <Brianetta> Do they span lines? 16:13:20 <peter1138> no, waypoints don't 16:13:24 <Brianetta> THey should. 16:13:33 <Brianetta> EMail me a URL to the grf 16:13:45 <Brianetta> I'll ad dit for tonight 16:13:50 <Brianetta> when I get in 16:14:01 <peter1138> www.bornacorn.com, heh 16:14:17 <Brianetta> I'll try to remember that one 16:14:30 <Brianetta> Does it have to be added ot the end of the config file? 16:14:35 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Client Quit] 16:14:36 <Brianetta> or does it not matteR? 16:14:40 <peter1138> doesn't matter 16:14:43 <Brianetta> right 16:14:54 <Brianetta> So, it's new password night tonight... again 16:15:08 <peter1138> heh 16:15:10 <Brianetta> I'm already using 1.7mb of newgrfs 16:15:15 <peter1138> :D 16:15:21 <Brianetta> You can't get thaton a floppy! 16:15:27 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 16:16:00 * valhallasw pokes Brianetta 16:16:05 * Brianetta is poked 16:16:05 * valhallasw suggests 7zip 16:16:17 <Brianetta> valhallasw: That;s the size of the zip file 16:16:21 <Brianetta> ppcis.org/nightly 16:16:22 <valhallasw> oh. 16:16:36 <Brianetta> feel free to duplicate the newgrf set for openttdcoop (: 16:16:47 <Brianetta> I can just cp the zip to the web space locally 16:17:01 <Brianetta> or even ln it 16:17:23 <Brianetta> except I plan to add waypoints for some reason 16:17:32 <Brianetta> They're just signal boxen, aren't they? 16:17:38 <peter1138> yeah 16:17:44 <peter1138> but Born_Acorn made them 16:17:47 <peter1138> and i coded them 16:17:49 <Brianetta> ...and... 16:17:50 <peter1138> so they're special ;p 16:17:51 <Brianetta> oh 16:17:51 <Brianetta> right 16:17:54 <Brianetta> your pride (: 16:18:14 <valhallasw> Brianetta: highest grf's have highest priority? 16:18:29 *** Pixelz [n=pix@62.65.104.4] has quit ["Disconnecting from stoned server."] 16:19:04 <peter1138> no 16:19:10 <peter1138> it's just load order 16:19:16 <peter1138> so the highest ones are loaded first 16:19:34 <Brianetta> valhallasw: Break the order, break the connection. 16:19:43 <peter1138> heh 16:19:44 <peter1138> "/** 16:19:47 <peter1138> "err 16:19:52 <Bjarni> bbl 16:19:53 <peter1138> i meant 16:19:56 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50c79ac1.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:19:58 <Brianetta> They're all asciibetical 16:19:59 <peter1138> "Duelly noted" 16:20:08 *** Pixelz [n=pix@62.65.104.4] has joined #openttd 16:20:15 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:21:47 <Brianetta> peter1138: Did you see my depot / HQ on my nightly? 16:21:53 <peter1138> not sure 16:21:59 <Brianetta> It's just left of where the server sets the view 16:22:11 <Brianetta> You need to see it (: 16:23:01 <peter1138> hmm 16:23:02 <peter1138> tricky 16:23:07 <peter1138> don't have a standard build atm 16:23:15 <Brianetta> DL the nightly exe 16:26:23 <Darkvater> /c 16:26:58 <Brianetta> /c ? 16:27:49 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4832 /trunk/ (newgrf.c newgrf_text.c newgrf_text.h): - NewGRF: add support for original string ID to newgrf text handling. So far, this is used for vehicles when no English or American translation is provided. 16:28:11 <peter1138> (fixes dbsetxlw armoured van text) 16:31:43 <Brianetta> Prize for most boringest fix (: 16:32:57 <peter1138> :( 16:34:01 <Brianetta> I'm not motivated to play DBSet because I don't know the trains 16:34:10 <peter1138> heh 16:34:26 <peter1138> ukrs is nicer ;) 16:36:33 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i kinda like the dbsetxl more 16:37:04 <Eddi|zuHause> except for the fact that there is no 120km/h livestock van 16:37:41 <brygge_2> Brianetta: i am trying to join your nightly server ,but there are allready 8 companies 16:38:15 <Brianetta> brygge_2: One moment 16:38:28 <glx> Brianetta: you can delete mine :) 16:38:41 <Brianetta> glx: Didn't know you played yesterday 16:38:51 <glx> it's a new game? 16:38:55 <Brianetta> yeah 16:38:58 <Brianetta> but it's full 16:39:02 <glx> so I didn't played 16:39:12 <peter1138> http://195.112.37.102/ottd/unsup.diff 16:39:26 <peter1138> please test, comment on, or fix ;p 16:40:00 <LIIT> peter1138: It's looks really pretty :-) 16:40:18 <Brianetta> brygge_2: I'm killing of fthe company with only one train 16:40:31 <brygge_2> brianetta: ok thanks. 16:40:37 <Brianetta> Go ahead 16:40:41 <Brianetta> Player 7 16:41:15 <Brianetta> Now, if only the dedicated server could tell me that stuff, instead of me relying on bobingabout to tell me... 16:41:28 * peter1138 > home 16:41:36 <Brianetta> Me too. 16:41:42 <peter1138> Brianetta: it will tonight 16:41:49 <peter1138> players command got added 16:42:19 <Brianetta> Excellent! 16:42:42 <Brianetta> I have no qualms resetting companies with no vehicles 16:42:58 <Brianetta> but the dedicated interface is laking 16:43:00 <Brianetta> lackin 16:43:03 <Brianetta> hm 16:43:09 <Brianetta> anyway 16:43:10 <Brianetta> I'm off hom 16:43:14 <Brianetta> home 16:43:18 * Brianetta sighs 16:43:19 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4833 /branch/yapf/ (63 files in 6 dirs): 16:43:19 <CIA-3> Sync with trunk (4778:4831) 16:43:19 <CIA-3> - Fix: assert_compile is now works with mixed (C/C++) code 16:43:26 <Brianetta> Let's hope I can type when I get there 16:43:31 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tsch??"] 16:47:59 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 16:48:24 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [] 16:52:22 *** Jango [n=Jango@mettab.demon.co.uk] has quit ["Using KVIrc 3.0.1 'System Virtue'"] 16:52:39 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040400]"] 16:57:44 *** jihi [n=Miranda@L354b.l.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 16:59:13 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3D03C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 17:00:19 <jihi> how can i let a city grow ? 17:01:32 <Noldo> enough active stations 17:02:03 <jihi> ah ill try 17:02:57 <Noldo> and goods help too once it accepts those 17:04:37 <jihi> have no goods ^^ 17:06:08 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:14:57 <SimonRC> ah, erm..... 17:15:25 <SimonRC> Is it true that CS originally wrote TT in ASM? 17:15:57 <SimonRC> RCT 1 was written entirely in ASM, I know: http://www.chrissawyer.com/faq3.htm 17:16:21 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:17:00 <SimonRC> He *did* write it entirely in ASM! http://i-want-a-website.com/about-tt/ttfaq01.html 17:17:02 <Sacro|AFK> yeah it was 17:17:05 <SimonRC> wow 17:17:13 <Sacro|AFK> and Ludde 17:17:14 *** Xeryus|school [n=irc@217.123.34.28] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:17:18 <SimonRC> our code will be forever slow, then 17:17:25 <SimonRC> "Ludde"? 17:17:30 <Sacro|AFK> did the opposite and turned it into C 17:17:38 <Sacro|AFK> sorry, had a goods train needing sending to depot :) 17:17:51 *** Xeryus|school [n=irc@217.123.34.28] has joined #openttd 17:19:37 <ernie_hh> how can i prevent cities from growing? ;) 17:20:14 <SimonRC> ernie_hh: don't allow any trade near them 17:20:37 <SimonRC> arctic cities need food and desert cities need food+water, tooo 17:20:47 <ernie_hh> simon: i use endless games. at a time far in the future any town grows till no space is left 17:21:33 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 17:21:34 <SimonRC> heh 17:23:17 <ernie_hh> at the moment where there is no space left to build tracks, it is the point to start a new game 17:23:20 <SimonRC> Actually, since allmost all language features started off as design patterns in an earlier language, assembley programmers with knowlage of other modern languages will have an easier time than ones without 17:23:23 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:23:29 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7F202.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:24:49 <SimonRC> e.g. If you have seen an OO language, you can program in OO style in ASM. 17:25:21 *** Angst [n=Angst@p549453BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:27:35 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a46af7.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:27:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 17:28:09 <KUDr> SimonRC: are you kidding? Be serious, please. The only "benefit" from using ASM would be that it would be much harder to maintain (and add new features) and impossible to run it on different CPUs. 17:33:54 <peter1138> .. 17:37:12 <TL|Away> Main OpenTTD WebService will be down for reboot 17:37:50 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B81EC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd ["icebears... take care of them!"] 17:38:09 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81EC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:38:14 <CIA-3> miham * r4834 /trunk/lang/unfinished/ukrainian.txt: [Translations] Added ukrainian language 17:40:20 <TL|Away> k, all service should be back 17:40:22 <TL|Away> seen the commit, it is :p 17:41:38 <Bjarni> MiHaMiX: did you see that I posted a bug report for WT2? 17:41:43 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B81EC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:41:49 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: yes, and I've read your msg, too :P 17:42:05 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: not msg, your message in public 17:42:17 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: it's not a bug in WT2 17:42:25 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: I enforce iso8859-15 17:42:35 <Bjarni> ahh 17:42:37 <MiHaMiX> but the char ^3 is not part of iso8859-15 afaik 17:42:41 <Bjarni> but then we got a serious problem 17:42:58 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: but general utf-8 will automagically solve this problem 17:43:32 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: until then, please use http://translator2.openttd.org/charset.php for special chars (use cut and paste) 17:43:33 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:44:16 <Bjarni> since the strings in question do not need to be altered compared to English, then it's not an urgent issue 17:44:55 <MiHaMiX> ok 17:45:50 <peter1138> hmm 17:45:56 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: ? 17:46:13 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: I've added ukrainian language with utf-8 ownname :) 17:46:28 <peter1138> i saw 17:46:37 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: is there any problem with it? 17:48:13 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 17:56:09 *** Zahl22 [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-254-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:59:31 *** znikoz2 [n=1@193.227.251.17] has joined #openttd 18:01:44 * valhallasw runs around #openttd, screaming 18:02:38 * Sacro|AFK trips him up 18:02:43 *** Sacro|AFK is now known as Sacro 18:02:57 * valhallasw screams and falls down a cliff 18:04:58 <valhallasw> uh-oh 18:05:04 <valhallasw> I've got 64kB free on c:\ 18:06:05 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-196-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:11:26 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:15:43 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 18:15:43 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:17:51 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:20:05 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 18:20:07 *** Xeryus|school [n=irc@217.123.34.28] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:20:33 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:22:13 <ln-> ok, this link may offend someone, so be careful: http://www.b0g.org/wsnm/uploads/holocauster.jpg [it's safe for work, still] 18:23:48 <Sacro> ln-: deary me 18:25:13 <SpComb> hmm, not very nice at all :o 18:26:48 <hylje> :D 18:27:44 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:27:50 <hylje> lolocaust 18:28:40 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:31:43 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 18:39:26 <Eddi|zuHause> that is definitely not funny! 18:39:50 <valhallasw> omg ln- 18:43:20 *** Xeryus|school [n=irc@217.123.28.144] has joined #openttd 18:44:28 * ln- didn't claim it's funny by pasteing it. 18:45:48 * valhallasw wonders why ln- browses b0g.org 18:45:56 <Sacro> can anyone here connect to irc.uplinkcorp.net ? 18:46:05 <valhallasw> uplinkcorp :O 18:46:13 <Sacro> valhallasw: que? 18:46:15 <valhallasw> 20:45 [uplinkcorp] -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.uplinkcorp.net port 6667 [No route to host] 18:46:23 * ln- doesn't don't browse, ln- sees links on other channels. 18:46:27 <valhallasw> uplink is.... old :) 18:46:44 <valhallasw> I want defcon ;) 18:46:44 <Sacro> valhallasw: Defcon is...new :) 18:46:53 * Sacro has defcon 18:47:00 <valhallasw> ... 18:47:03 * valhallasw kills Sacro 18:47:06 <Sacro> alpha 11 :P 18:47:11 * valhallasw demands screenshots 18:47:29 <Sacro> i might just setup vnc and allow people to watch 18:47:37 <valhallasw> :> 18:48:06 *** jihi [n=Miranda@L354b.l.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:48:26 <Sacro> i signed up as a tester about a month ago, got an e-mail today 18:48:35 <Sacro> supposed to be testing the online wars now, but i cant connect 18:49:22 <valhallasw> heh 18:58:31 <Sacro> oh wellz :( 18:59:00 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 18:59:23 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:01:32 <Sacro> Brianetta: ping 19:01:42 *** Qball [n=qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 19:02:33 <Brianetta> pong 19:02:36 <Brianetta> tip: 19:02:41 <Brianetta> I never change the password for no reason 19:03:15 <Sacro> yes, i have downloaded newgrfs, updated the cfg and am getting sync errors 19:04:12 <Brianetta> Is your cfg nit he same order? 19:05:11 <Sacro> d'oh, forgot it will overwrite the old config if i update it with hte game running 19:05:43 <Brianetta> yes 19:05:56 <Brianetta> peter1138: The UK waypoints aren't available int he game 19:06:01 <Sacro> hmmm, now what was that for 19:06:35 * Sacro waits for the next dev...poised with a large yellow and pink mallet 19:07:55 <Sacro> ahh, i had 2 [newgrf] sections, one being empty above the copy/pasted one 19:09:06 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176126226.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:10:49 <Brianetta> D'oh! 19:12:54 * valhallasw likes google video 19:15:14 *** znikoz2 [n=1@193.227.251.17] has quit [] 19:16:16 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 19:17:50 <KUDr> hmmm: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/166 19:18:12 <KUDr> Does anybody have at least .map or .pdb files for that build? 19:20:03 <glx> KUDr: that's not what I call a useful bug report 19:20:12 <KUDr> exactly 19:20:20 <ector--> http://www.codeproject.com/debug/postmortemdebug_standalone1.asp << if ttd supported this such things would be easier to debug 19:20:22 <ector--> minidumps kick ass 19:20:23 <KUDr> Only what i can see here is that it crashed somewhere deep in USER32.dll. 19:21:08 <KUDr> ector--: but still only if you have debug info (.map or .pdb) 19:21:57 <ector--> of course, so you need to keep around pdbs or have the exact compiler and svn version used 19:22:21 <ector--> but if you have that, it's WAY WAY better than a crash address and a register dump :P 19:23:00 <KUDr> i can tell you what happen also from that report, but i really miss the debug info 19:23:50 <glx> it's easier for me to debug when I know the user did before it crashes 19:24:17 <ector--> well, of course, reproducible steps is always the best 19:24:34 <ector--> but this is a middle ground that's extremely useful sometimes 19:24:40 <Darkvater> I have the 0.4.7 debug info 19:24:42 <ln-> i apologize for the finnish idiots who think that holocaust was a funny thing. 19:24:55 <Darkvater> it was funny :) 19:25:28 <Darkvater> I mean the pic 19:25:33 <Darkvater> obviously 19:25:49 <KUDr> Darkvater: can you DCC it to me? 19:25:54 <Darkvater> no 19:26:06 <KUDr> ok 19:26:07 <Darkvater> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-Addon-Biarch.torrent 19:26:10 <Darkvater> oop 19:26:16 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.openttd.org/debug_database/ 19:26:17 <Darkvater> there 19:26:21 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176106160.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:26:34 <KUDr> wow, thanks 19:27:10 <Darkvater> I also have a patch lying around that creates minidumps for openttd but I read that you need some debug dll locally so thought not to add it 19:27:38 <KUDr> yes, true 19:35:05 <Sacro> i think i have an NPF bug 19:35:16 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.11.160] has quit ["Sleep"] 19:35:21 *** Andrew67 [i=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Client Quit] 19:35:26 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:37:58 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:38:26 *** znikoz2 [n=1@ant-251.ug1.dp.ukrtel.net] has joined #openttd 19:45:13 <Brianetta> Sacro, is the bug showing now? 19:45:21 <Brianetta> Have you taken a save? 19:46:18 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-20-96.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 19:47:26 <Born_Acorn> I made a fix! 19:47:27 <Born_Acorn> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24989 19:47:40 <peter1138> hi 19:47:56 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: what did you break? 19:48:04 <peter1138> oh, heh 19:48:16 <Born_Acorn> Its the original graphical bug. 19:48:48 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn encoded a grf o_O 19:48:54 <Bjarni> and called it a bug fix 19:49:21 <Bjarni> hmm 19:49:27 <peter1138> well 19:49:29 <peter1138> it is 19:49:31 <Born_Acorn> Well since the "bug" was missing graphics, I made said graphics and encoded it. 19:49:44 <Born_Acorn> so it fixed the bug, as in bug if 19:49:48 <Darkvater> he great... peter1138 it links with VS6, but needs DLL :S 19:49:50 <Born_Acorn> fix, even! 19:50:06 <peter1138> http://195.112.37.102/ottd/ukr.png << full extent of ukrainian translation ;p 19:50:12 <Bjarni> question: are the sprites in question missing, or just not called when they should? 19:50:21 <peter1138> Darkvater: hmmmmm 19:50:35 <Born_Acorn> Bjarni, missing 19:50:40 <Born_Acorn> from tg1r.grf itself 19:50:40 <Bjarni> ok 19:50:46 <Darkvater> I guess I somehow need to compile this freetype myself 19:50:46 <peter1138> well 19:50:50 <peter1138> :( 19:51:03 <Born_Acorn> which is why I had to draw the imitation graphics, and make a grf. 19:51:33 <Bjarni> maybe we should add it to one of the grf files we already got in the trunk 19:51:48 <Bjarni> otherwise we can end up with a zillion files 19:51:54 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:51:57 <peter1138> Bjarni: it's a newgrf file. the others are not loaded the same way 19:52:10 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 19:52:14 <Bjarni> oh 19:52:16 <peter1138> but 19:52:28 <peter1138> well, it could be put into openttd.grf, i suppose 19:52:32 <peter1138> but Born_Acorn's done all the hard work ;) 19:53:00 <Brianetta> peter1138: The UK waypoints aren't available int he game 19:53:07 <peter1138> oh? 19:53:17 <Brianetta> Just the same 5 that were there already 19:53:20 <Bjarni> we should at least try to get it to load by default 19:54:01 <Bjarni> <peter1138> http://195.112.37.102/ottd/ukr.png << full extent of ukrainian translation ;p <-- what's up with "pound ("... why ( ? 19:54:14 <Bjarni> +s 19:54:16 <peter1138> cos it's not in utf8 19:54:29 <Bjarni> ahh £ is missing 19:54:41 <Born_Acorn> Bjarni, the graphics were missing for empty Wood, Steel, grain and iron ore vans. 19:55:19 <orudge> Ooh 19:55:20 <orudge> http://www.os2world.com/cgi-bin/news/viewnews.cgi?category=2&id=1140667607 19:55:25 <orudge> How interesting, OpenTTD is mentioned. 19:55:33 <orudge> Maybe they had a LAN party ;) 19:55:47 *** sergeynik2 [n=1@193.227.251.17] has joined #openttd 19:55:47 <Born_Acorn> All three people must have downloaded it! :p 19:55:50 <orudge> How evil. 19:56:17 <orudge> OpenTTD 0.4.7 has had 226 OS/2 downloads! 19:56:19 <Born_Acorn> anyway, http://graphics.tt-terminal.co.uk/trucks.png for the Truck graphics 19:56:22 <peter1138> hmm 19:56:27 <orudge> 0.4.5 had 406! 19:56:32 <Sacro> orudge likes to check it every now and again... :) 19:56:38 <orudge> 0.4.0.1 had 720! 19:56:45 <orudge> 0.4.0 had 209! 19:56:52 <orudge> 0.3.6 had 547! 19:56:57 <[Shaman]> O_O 19:56:58 <orudge> 0.3.5 had 521! 19:57:03 <orudge> so there! 19:57:12 <orudge> OK, so there were 28,598 downloads of 0.4.7 for Win32 19:57:13 <orudge> but still. 19:57:17 <Bjarni> <Born_Acorn> All three people must have downloaded it! :p <-- for all we know, one person could have downloaded it and shared it on a LAN so the two other people got it 19:57:19 <peter1138> and again o_O 19:57:25 <[Shaman]> so those 3 dudes downloaded it 70 times each? :o 19:57:34 <orudge> 1.419% of the Win32 population isn't entirely insignificant :p 19:57:43 <orudge> (oh, and 8831 of the .zip I guess) 19:57:57 <Born_Acorn> [Shaman], precisely! 19:58:22 <Bjarni> <orudge> OpenTTD 0.4.7 has had 226 OS/2 downloads! <-- 0.1.4 for OSX got 72 (or 74) downloads. Nobody complained that it got hardcoded absolute paths to my HD, so odds are that it failed for everybody 19:58:32 <peter1138> hmm 19:58:41 <peter1138> small font makes it go boom :( 19:58:56 <Bjarni> so a lot of downloads is not the same as a lot of people playing the game 19:59:00 <peter1138> ah, i bet i have a 0 x 0 sprite or something 19:59:01 <orudge> I have a load of e-mails about OpenTTD for OS/2 in my inbox though! 19:59:11 <orudge> Whether they play regularly, I cannot say 19:59:14 <orudge> but people do have it and appreciate it 19:59:19 <[Shaman]> nice 19:59:51 <Born_Acorn> orudge, so these three people are email spammers too? 19:59:52 <Born_Acorn> :p 20:00:09 <[Shaman]> lol 20:00:19 <Bjarni> lol 20:00:25 <orudge> How evil. 20:00:28 <Bjarni> hmm 20:00:44 <orudge> I'm going to get some food 20:00:46 <orudge> you smelly people 20:00:48 <orudge> who aren't very nice 20:00:50 <Bjarni> I guess we already knew that Janet is evil 20:00:51 <orudge> and mock nice OS/2 :( 20:00:56 * orudge considers releasing his DOS port 20:00:57 <[Shaman]> I'm very nice, just not to OS/2 users :o 20:01:02 <[Shaman]> DOS e// 20:01:08 <orudge> e// ? 20:01:10 <orudge> Oh 20:01:18 <orudge> Hm, not sure. 20:01:20 <orudge> But anyway, yes 20:01:22 *** Zr40 [n=zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20:01:22 <orudge> It needs updating 20:01:24 <orudge> but it worked 20:01:24 <[Shaman]> go eat :P 20:01:25 <Bjarni> why do you want denial of service in OTTD??? 20:01:30 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:01:41 <[Shaman]> why: so you can annoy your compeditors during multiplayer games :P 20:01:48 <[Shaman]> "I DOS your factory!" 20:02:05 <Darkvater> peter1138: got comic-sans-serief as font ;p 20:02:11 <peter1138> hehe 20:02:28 <Brianetta> peter1138: Check out my HQ 20:02:37 <Born_Acorn> orudge, do it and alter the Wikipedia article forever! 20:02:42 *** qball [n=qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:02:47 <Bjarni> or better yet: "I DDOS your factory with input so there is no chance for you to get through to get output from it" 20:02:55 <Bjarni> simple flooding 20:02:58 <Darkvater> but it sucks. it needs freetype.dll AND zlib.dll 20:03:01 <[Shaman]> lol 20:03:05 <orudge> I already altered it a little bit! 20:03:17 <orudge> I changed it to "However, it does not officially run on DOS" a while ago 20:03:20 <orudge> Since unofficially, it does ;) 20:03:26 <orudge> I just never got around to merging it into SVN... 20:03:29 <glx> Darkvater: you are using freetype from gnuwin32 ? 20:03:30 <orudge> and now it's hideously out of date 20:03:33 <Darkvater> glx: yes 20:03:43 <Darkvater> and currently it only works with VS6 20:04:07 <Bjarni> what are you trying to do (besides adding lib dependancies)? 20:04:09 <glx> they are bad :) they also want to use their lgw32c 20:04:24 <Darkvater> I needa find a way to compile it ;p 20:05:16 <Bjarni> I read somewhere that it's easier to make static win binaries in mingw/msys to remove the need for dll files 20:05:30 <Bjarni> I haven't tested that theory though 20:05:56 <glx> I compiled freetype with mingw easily but I don't how it is for msvc 20:06:39 <Bjarni> what to use? freetype 1.3.1-9 or 2.1.4-12? 20:06:42 <Darkvater> 2 20:06:50 <Bjarni> I guess there is a reason why fink includes both 20:07:39 <Bjarni> so it's basically to get all chars without drawing them into grf files? 20:08:07 <Darkvater> hmm just got a crash when a big font is supposed to appear 20:10:30 *** znikoz2 [n=1@ant-251.ug1.dp.ukrtel.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:12:49 <Bjarni> ok, now I got a static and a dynamic freetype 2 lib 20:12:54 <Bjarni> installed 20:13:21 <Bjarni> so now I'm ready to port your stuff to mac (once it's ready) 20:13:36 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7F202.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:13:59 <Bjarni> it's not the same as it will happen overnight though. I mean it might be tricky with universal binaries 20:14:19 <Darkvater> tfarago@Arrakis:~/src/freetype/2.1.10/freetype-2.1.10> make 20:14:19 <Darkvater> cd builds/unix; ./configure 20:14:19 <Darkvater> /bin/sh: ./configure: Permission denied 20:14:25 <Darkvater> ok this is going nicely 20:14:50 <Bjarni> chmod 755 builds/unix/configure 20:14:56 <Bjarni> that will kill that issue 20:15:10 <Bjarni> but then you will give EVERYBODY permission to execute that script 20:15:13 <Darkvater> bizarre 20:15:27 <Darkvater> make visualc will select the Visual C++ compiler 20:15:33 <Darkvater> tfarago@Arrakis:~/src/freetype/2.1.10/freetype-2.1.10> make visualc 20:15:33 <Darkvater> make: *** No rule to make target `visualc'. Stop. 20:15:38 <Darkvater> oook... 20:15:40 <Bjarni> it's weird that you have to allow yourself to execute configure though 20:16:01 <hylje> :> 20:17:14 <Darkvater> heeey what do we got here ^^ 20:17:48 <[Shaman]> <3 Dune :o 20:18:59 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 20:20:14 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:28:18 *** DaleStan_ [n=Dale@12.208.40.81] has joined #openttd 20:28:24 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@12.208.40.81] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:28:45 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 20:29:03 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 20:29:25 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:30:24 <glx> Darkvater: did you look in <freetype_dir>/builds/win32/visualc ? 20:30:46 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.91.79.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #openttd 20:33:44 <guru3> can i typedef unsigned short int to int so that when i make an int it's automatically unsigned & short? 20:34:22 <glx> but it's not an int then 20:34:43 <guru3> how so? 20:35:22 <Darkvater> May 11 22:27:15 Arrakis kernel: NVRM: Xid: 6, PE0000 0fe0 ffacefe2 00003168 00000000 fff1a89d 20:35:26 <Darkvater> yaay crash 20:35:37 <Darkvater> glx: yeah I did. Vs6 doesn't open it and vs2005 refuses to compile 20:38:16 <glx> Darkvater: an other possibility could be to follow docs/INSTALL.ANY procedure 20:38:28 * Darkvater is waiting for vmware to boot 20:38:29 <ln-> guru3: you cannot re-define integral types, and for a good reason, it would cause a great mess if you could. 20:39:02 <Darkvater> *zzzzZZzzzZz* chkdsk 20:39:30 <glx> guru3: but you can typedef unsigned short int to a smaller name like usint 20:39:37 <Darkvater> or gurint 20:39:39 <guru3> ok 20:39:46 <Darkvater> or gurunt 20:39:47 <peter1138> heh 20:39:53 <peter1138> uint8, uint16, uint32... 20:39:59 <guru3> ack oh yea 20:40:00 <guru3> h 20:40:01 <peter1138> hmm, wonder where those names came from 20:40:05 <guru3> i remember those in the net code 20:40:39 *** Angst [n=Angst@p549453BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:41:50 <glx> peter1138: I'm compiling utf-8h 20:42:16 <Darkvater> wow 20:42:23 <Darkvater> 'windows - registry recovery' 20:42:30 <Darkvater> never had that after a reboot 20:42:50 <Darkvater> 'one of the files containing the system's registry had to be recovered by use of a log or alternate copy' 20:42:58 <glx> you didn't shut off properly? 20:43:19 <Darkvater> my whole pc crashed :( 20:43:34 <Darkvater> the dreaded nvidia XID crashes 20:44:55 <glx> that remember me a lan party where we had 2 power shutdown (the 2nd while I was rebooting), and I had to reinstall windows 20:45:10 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 20:45:26 <hylje> -- 20:45:31 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:45:44 <Darkvater> isn't it fun? 20:45:51 <hylje> yes 20:46:04 <hylje> windows registry is the shit when it breaks 20:46:04 <glx> always fun to reinstall windows :) 20:46:17 <hylje> it cannot be backed up properly for instance 20:46:28 <hylje> without ghosting the whole system with it 20:46:58 <glx> there registry backups somewhere in the hard drive but I can't remember where 20:47:24 <hylje> its likely locked out from the user 20:47:42 <glx> you need to use recovery console for that 20:47:50 <hylje> or such tools 20:49:33 <ector--> luckily the F8 start menu has a choice, "boot from last known good configuration" 20:49:43 <ector--> which is written when the system shuts down successfully 20:49:57 <ector--> so, it's hard to get REALLY screwed 20:50:02 <glx> doesn't work sometimes 20:50:06 <hylje> -- if you have a "system restore" service on 20:50:19 <ector--> i've never seen it not work, but maybe I've been lucky 20:50:25 <hylje> and knowing ms, they likely have some bugs in there 20:50:27 <ector--> saved me once 20:50:46 <hylje> just like with suspend-to-disk 20:50:59 <hylje> sometimes bluescreens for no apparent reason 20:51:03 <ector--> suspend to disk works 100% both on my laptop and stationary 20:51:06 <ector--> never bluescreens 20:51:11 <ector--> you probably have crap hw :) 20:51:18 <hylje> ibm 20:51:19 <hylje> not so 20:51:57 <ector--> well, some random crappy driver is also possible, could be for anything, really, since I presume that drivers get some kind of notification 20:52:19 <hylje> yep driver might be it, but its still random 20:52:46 <hylje> and its hard to come up with the glitchy driver anyway 20:52:53 <glx> video drivers are often the cause 20:53:01 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 20:53:11 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:53:29 <hylje> drivers should not bring the system down, only make it fall back to another 20:53:39 <hylje> but thats just utopia 20:54:06 <ector--> in vista they're moving large parts of several kinds of drivers to user mode 20:54:19 <ector--> so at least they're less likely to bluescreen 20:54:33 <hylje> but vista has the rsod ! 20:54:43 <ector--> scary 20:54:48 <glx> ha they changed the color? 20:55:05 <hylje> rsod is for "youre really fucked" errors 20:55:33 <hylje> bsod is for "you got fucked but can likely reboot to recover" 20:55:47 <ector--> i tried vista for 2 days, never got a rsod, only got a black screen of death when I tried to upgrade the gfx driver on the fly (without reboot) ... but if they get that working correctly, that will be very cool 20:56:12 <hylje> if you get rsod in 2 days 20:56:19 <hylje> you got mad haxor skillz 20:56:44 <ector--> well, it's still an early beta, i wouldn't draw any conclusions at all 20:56:46 <ector--> :P 20:57:06 <ector--> they're still stabilizing their new network subsystem 20:57:30 <ector--> unified IPV4/IPV6 rewritten from the ground up, but still unstable :P 20:57:49 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 20:57:52 <glx> like the old one :) 21:00:07 <hylje> old one was BSD aka really stable 21:00:43 <glx> I mean win9x :) 21:00:59 <hylje> now that was a hack 21:01:15 <hylje> 95 didnt originally have network out-of-the-box 21:01:19 <hylje> iirc 21:04:11 *** Serotonin___ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:04:26 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 21:05:10 <Darkvater> warning C4273: 'FT_Get_Multi_Master' : inconsistent dll linkage. dllexport assumed. 21:05:15 <Darkvater> aaah, lovely 21:05:17 <Darkvater> 161x 21:05:37 <Darkvater> error C2491: 'ft_highpow2' : definition of dllimport function not allowed 21:05:45 <Darkvater> and this is supposed to be able to compile? 21:06:16 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4835 /branch/yapf/ (openttd_vs80.vcproj rail_cmd.c): 21:06:16 <CIA-3> [YAPF] Fix: missing 'change track layout' notifications on build/remove rail depot action (thanks to yanek) 21:06:16 <CIA-3> Fix: added missing header files to VC8 project 21:06:36 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-255-42.vodafone-net.de] has left #openttd ["muss wech"] 21:06:54 *** dfox [n=dfox@213.220.254.86] has joined #openttd 21:09:53 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:16:53 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:22:38 <Celestar> back 21:22:44 <ector--> hylje, ms hasn't used BSD network code since NT 3.5 21:22:45 <Celestar> any news? 21:23:28 <Celestar> hm .. bbl 21:29:41 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit ["Go on, get out. Last words are for fools who haven't said enough. - Karl Marx"] 21:31:48 <CIA-3> miham * r4836 /trunk/lang/danish.txt: 21:31:48 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-05-11 23:30:49 21:31:48 <CIA-3> danish - 34 fixed by Bjarni (34) 21:32:05 <izhirahider> nice 21:34:30 <Brianetta> This morning I saw a train. A green Freightliner class 66. Its number? 21:34:32 <Brianetta> 66613 21:34:47 <Brianetta> I wonder if they are superstitious about that? 21:34:55 *** sergeynik2 [n=1@193.227.251.17] has quit [] 21:35:22 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4716.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 21:35:35 <Celestar> Darkvater: wtf are you doing? 21:35:46 <Sacro> awww, theres some guy on tv baiting Wombles :( 21:36:03 <Xeryus|school> Brianetta: does it run on a private line so people can jump in front of it and get hit without upsetting the driver? 21:36:08 *** Xeryus|school is now known as XeryusTC 21:36:08 <Celestar> hm ... 21:36:16 <Celestar> 5 open bug reports for 0.4.8 21:36:22 <Darkvater> Celestar: trying to compile freetype for windows 21:36:27 <Celestar> Darkvater: ah :S 21:36:32 <Brianetta> XeryusTC: Nope. Mainline train. Had polybulk hoppers - probably full of Soylent Green. 21:36:56 <peter1138> night night 21:37:07 <Celestar> peter1138: stop :P 21:37:16 <XeryusTC> Brianetta: something odd will happen with it within the comming 4 months :) 21:37:31 <peter1138> gone 21:37:35 <Celestar> peter1138: will you happen to have a chance to look at some of the bug repotrs for 0.4.8? ;) 21:37:47 <peter1138> not now 21:37:49 <peter1138> sleep time 21:37:52 <Celestar> weekend .. 21:37:57 <peter1138> maybe 21:38:01 <peter1138> bye 21:38:01 <Celestar> good ;M) 21:38:03 <Celestar> sleep well 21:38:22 <XeryusTC> night peter1138 21:39:27 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:43:33 <Celestar> lol 21:43:56 <Celestar> Frankfurt airport: "Considerable Slot problems for arrivals and departures have to be expected daily" :P 21:44:21 <CIA-3> miham * r4837 /trunk/lang/unfinished/croatian.txt: Translations: added croatian language 21:44:40 <MiHaMiX> wow, 2 new language on a single day :D 21:44:55 <MiHaMiX> these translators must be working hard :D 21:45:29 <Celestar> imagine how many languages we'll get with UTF8 ;) 21:45:39 <Celestar> but we need to add language IDs to newgrf right? 21:46:38 <MiHaMiX> Celestar: well, I've been contacted by a wannabe afrikaans translator :D 21:48:04 <Bjarni> MiHaMiX: now WT2 tells me to translate strings I already translated and you committed o_O 21:48:47 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: yes. 21:48:49 <Bjarni> it's like it didn't realise that svn got updated or something 21:48:55 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: exactly 21:49:01 <MiHaMiX> Reason for failure: Language error: Unable to determine file path! (exception 'LanguageException' with message 'Language error: Unable to determine file path!' in /www/openttd.org/translator2/classes/Language/Config.php:16 21:49:05 <MiHaMiX> Stack trace: 21:49:08 <MiHaMiX> #0 /www/openttd.org/translator2/classes/Language/Loader/SVN.php(5): LanguageConfig::getLanguageFilePath('croatian') 21:49:11 <MiHaMiX> #1 /www/openttd.org/translator2/classes/SVN/Updater.php(22): LanguageSVNLoader::load('croatian') 21:49:14 <MiHaMiX> #2 /www/openttd.org/translator2/svn_cb.php(66): SVNUpdater->__construct('unfinished/croa...', Object(Language)) 21:49:17 <MiHaMiX> #3 {main}) 21:49:19 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: are you more clever now? :D 21:49:46 <Bjarni> sure, now I can go ahead and fix the problem in no time 21:49:47 <Bjarni> :p 21:49:57 <MiHaMiX> :D 21:50:07 <Bjarni> actually now I understand less than before you pasted that :s 21:50:12 <MiHaMiX> :DDD 21:50:24 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: updater script dies with this error 21:50:25 <Celestar> good night all 21:50:31 <Bjarni> night Celestar 21:50:32 <MiHaMiX> Celestar: gn 21:51:44 <Bjarni> so basically you added Croatian and because C is before D and the script stopped failed at Croatian, it can't update Danish 21:51:54 <Bjarni> so you broke Danish by adding Croatian 21:52:18 <Sacro> d'oh 21:52:47 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: no, lang update is in transaction 21:53:01 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: and in case of any error the whole transaction is rolled back 21:53:13 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: this way I can prevent inconsistencies 21:53:20 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:53:25 <Born_Acorn> I thought the bridge branch allowed bridges over bridges. I can't do that :( 21:53:37 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:53:46 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 21:55:04 <MiHaMiX> Born_Acorn: what does that good for then? 21:55:24 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: Process SUCCESSFULLY finished! 21:56:04 <Born_Acorn> What does that good for then? :o 21:56:25 <Celestar> Born_Acorn: no it doesn't allow that yet. 21:56:37 <Celestar> Born_Acorn: currently it allows bridge over arbitrary track configurations 21:56:42 <Celestar> junctions, signals .. 21:57:18 <Born_Acorn> and I can terraform under the bridges! 21:57:28 <Celestar> yes. 21:57:29 <Celestar> ;)I 21:57:29 <Bjarni> hmm, somebody added a whole lot of strings since I translated 21:57:48 <Bjarni> at least now it will not try to make me translate the same strings again :) 21:58:01 <Born_Acorn> What is useful is bridges over diag rail. 21:58:05 <MiHaMiX> okay folks, I'm going to go to sleep 21:58:13 <Celestar> Born_Acorn: VERY useful?! 21:58:17 <Born_Acorn> new junction types and no more complaining about diag rail! 21:58:39 <Celestar> Born_Acorn: for the rest: http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/bridgesource.tar.gz 21:58:47 <Born_Acorn> ooh. 21:59:20 <Celestar> but most bridge require LOTS of clearance 21:59:27 <Celestar> (apart from the concrete bridge) 21:59:32 <Born_Acorn> Thanks. 21:59:41 <Celestar> so play around 21:59:45 <Celestar> and PLEASE report problems 21:59:51 <Celestar> (preferably via PM or e-mail) 21:59:53 <Born_Acorn> Okay. 21:59:59 <Celestar> nite 22:00:03 <Born_Acorn> Is the buying land under bruidges known? 22:00:13 *** vrak [i=vrak@putsch.kolbu.ws] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:00:18 <Celestar> it should work in my code. 22:00:24 <Celestar> and yes, you CAN buy land under bridges 22:00:28 <Born_Acorn> It makes the bridge "disappear". Yet trains and vehicles move ove rit as if it was there. 22:00:35 <Celestar> yes. 22:00:46 <Born_Acorn> then, if you remove the bridge, assertion! 22:00:54 <Celestar> again, try my source (extract them to where the normal bridge branch is!!) 22:01:05 <Born_Acorn> will do. 22:06:59 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B37548.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 22:07:43 <XeryusTC> night all 22:08:13 <Sacro> XeryusTC: night 22:08:51 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-193-37.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 22:09:24 *** stillunknown [n=unknown@82-168-179-194.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [] 22:22:05 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:22:55 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [] 22:28:50 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:33:40 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d39.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:34:30 *** vrak [i=vrak@putsch.kolbu.ws] has joined #openttd 22:34:41 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has left #openttd ["Konversation terminated!"] 22:37:27 *** Ihmemies_ [i=ihmemies@a81-197-110-97.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 22:40:46 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 22:43:49 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 22:56:37 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-110-97.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:58:21 *** fusee [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #openttd 22:58:34 *** Pixelz [n=pix@62.65.104.4] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:59:22 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:59:44 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:00:34 *** Pixelz [i=pix@pix.pp.se] has joined #openttd 23:04:57 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/59014 <-- yeah, I don't know google.com either 23:04:57 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:04:58 <Bjarni> :p 23:05:30 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 23:15:55 *** fusey [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:15:56 *** fusee is now known as fusey 23:16:06 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:17:30 *** Hallo [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:21:26 <Born_Acorn> http://www.frappr.com/ttforums 23:21:35 <Born_Acorn> The TT-Forums Frappr! 23:21:47 * valhallasw clicks 23:22:14 * valhallasw pokes XeryusTC learn how to type your name 23:22:20 <Born_Acorn> Europe has the most, with Australia second. 23:22:23 <valhallasw> and vote "yes" for the zuiderzeelijn :+ 23:22:28 *** Ihmemies_ [i=ihmemies@a81-197-110-97.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 23:26:20 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-110-97.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 23:27:47 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD70DEB.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 23:41:15 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 23:46:20 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 23:48:50 *** Zothar [n=chatzill@adsl-69-155-218-8.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #openttd 23:49:15 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:56:00 *** valhallasw is now known as valhalla-unregis 23:56:25 *** valhalla-unregis is now known as valhallasw 23:59:03 <Bjarni> <Born_Acorn> http://www.frappr.com/ttforums <-- wtf is that?