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It was you wasn't it!?"] 03:01:49 *** Red230 [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 03:10:55 *** Morlark [n=Sean@host86-141-123-88.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:15:57 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B75208.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:20:14 *** Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-3, Gussoh, Pixelz 03:22:54 *** Pixelz [i=pix@pix.pp.se] has joined #openttd 03:23:23 *** CIA-3 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has joined #openttd 03:25:10 *** Gussoh [n=gussoh@user9.82-197-255.netatonce.net] has joined #openttd 03:27:47 *** Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Gussoh, Pixelz 03:29:25 *** Netsplit over, joins: Pixelz 03:40:50 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B371E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:42:13 *** MiHaMiX [n=miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has joined #openttd 03:42:25 *** nfc [n=nfc@dsl-hkigw7-fec3dc00-123.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 03:43:30 *** yanek [i=yanek@atlantis.mitranet.cz] has joined #openttd 03:46:06 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B371E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 03:48:09 <mikk36> what a silence :/ 03:48:26 *** vrak [i=vrak@putsch.kolbu.ws] has joined #openttd 03:48:28 *** anboni [i=daemon@ivory.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 03:48:32 *** fusey [i=fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 03:48:36 *** Damme [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 03:49:46 <Burgundavia> mikk36: we like it that way 03:49:47 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:49:53 <mikk36> :P 03:49:56 *** roboman [n=Leo@220.239.174.188] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:50:13 *** hylje [i=hylje@194.187.214.214] has joined #openttd 03:50:22 *** Rubidium [n=rubidium@rubidium.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 03:53:06 <mikk36> lol.. fking lilo again :D 03:55:12 *** Gussoh [n=gussoh@user9.82-197-255.netatonce.net] has joined #openttd 03:57:45 *** Frostregen [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-165-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:58:29 *** mouhez [i=mouhez@noppakerho.com] has joined #openttd 03:59:41 *** michi_cc [i=da144d8f@pdpc/supporter/student/michi-cc] has joined #openttd 04:14:00 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:20:03 *** roboman [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:35:30 *** [Shaman] [n=nnscript@ip503c1f52.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 04:36:01 *** mikk36 [i=mikk36@pc7.host4.starman.ee] has quit ["The pedestrian had no idea which way to run, so I ran over him"] 04:38:39 *** mikk36 [i=mikk36@pc7.host4.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 05:13:05 *** Morlark [n=Sean@host81-151-253-196.range81-151.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 05:15:32 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:24:05 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387CDB5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 05:25:20 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-201-101.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:08:48 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 06:14:28 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c58-107-167-250.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:15:18 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:19:44 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit ["Odletam do paralelniho vesmiru..."] 06:19:55 <k-man> so with freight, like oil and coal, is longer trains better? 06:19:59 <k-man> or shorter trains? 06:23:49 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 06:27:05 <[Shaman]> situational 06:27:18 <[Shaman]> depends on supply, demand, ride length 06:30:05 <roboman> and power and speed of loco 06:36:17 <Rubidium> [Shaman]: you should not try to make DistanceManhattan run in less time, but rather try to eliminate the number of calls <- by the way, all calls come from CalcClosestTownFromTile 06:37:20 <[Shaman]> Rubidium: Maybe a table with such things will work out better than constantly calculating :) 06:39:41 *** Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 06:40:37 <Rubidium> yes, but a table for DistanceManhattan on a 2048x2048 map will require (2048*2048)*(2048*2048) * 2 (as you need at least an int16 to store all distances), which is 32 TB (2^45), so that is not an option 06:41:18 *** KUDr [i=KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 06:43:59 <Rubidium> reducing the number of calls needed by making a map for CalcClosestTownFromTile 06:44:25 <Rubidium> and CheckMultipleIndustriesInTown will be less memory wasting 06:44:59 <Rubidium> and will reduce the number of DistanceManhattans dramatically 07:06:33 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:29:57 *** Zavior [n=asdadsq@d195-237-7-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 07:31:16 <Celestar> lovely 07:31:26 <Celestar> some dumbfuck forgot to tell us that the server-room cooling will be disabled tonight 07:31:29 <Celestar> current temperature: 42°C 07:34:25 <TheMask96> hmm... hopefully your cpu's won't melt :) 07:34:44 <Celestar> well the cooling is back since 0930 07:34:51 <Celestar> and went off with an alarm :P 07:34:58 <TheMask96> gheheh :) 07:36:35 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 07:38:12 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E9E2.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 07:55:30 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 07:55:31 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 07:58:20 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-680.l1.c6.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:01:43 *** KUDr_wrk [n=KUDr@195.39.113.200] has joined #openttd 08:05:27 *** roboman [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:12:41 *** TL|Away [n=trueligh@truelight.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:13:38 <TL|Away> [05:57:04] <lilo> [>> $*] [Global Notice] This should be our last glitch, apologies in advance. <- MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA 08:14:22 <TL|Away> Bjarni: ping 08:17:43 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-113-63.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 08:17:52 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-113-63.red.bezeqint.net] has left #openttd [] 08:20:02 <Rubidium> TL|Away: you can of course read that in different ways; one is that this was the last action lilo has done for freenode, or that freenode will not exists anymore when the next glitch arrives or that we are all leaving freenode before the next glitch :) 08:20:40 <TL|Away> Rubidium: I vote for the last option! 08:22:22 <TL|Away> Rubidium: how is the sprite drawing going? 08:22:37 <Qball> this is so f*** annoying, forget to set a password for 1/2 a minute, and somebody is playing "along" with my company. 08:22:41 <Qball> so f** annoying. 08:23:27 <TL|Away> Qball: make a patch that asks for a password on join 08:24:01 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 08:24:34 <Rubidium> TL|Away: some speed-ups (mainly in loading), but I've not had any substantial amount of time last 2 weeks to do any work on it :( 08:24:52 * TL|Away gives Rubidium a bit of time :) 08:25:53 <Qball> TL|Away: what about an option where you can let others join your company, that is by default off. 08:26:05 <TL|Away> Qball: go ahead 08:26:17 <Qball> like I am not busy enough 08:26:24 <Qball> just found some time to play a game, 08:26:33 <Qball> some jerky (eeuh herky) fucks up my game 08:26:58 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 08:28:33 <Qball> a well, pc re-install time then 08:28:54 <TL|Away> hehe 08:28:59 <TL|Away> like you do have time for THAT :p 08:29:03 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:31:07 <Qball> TL|Away: well, having a non-running system takes more time then making one 08:31:20 <Qball> pc broke, and the arses that fixed it, wiped it. 08:31:25 <Qball> while nothing wrong there 08:31:28 <TL|Away> mwhahaha :) 08:31:29 <TL|Away> sorry 08:31:31 <TL|Away> that is really bad man 08:31:54 <Qball> aint that bad 08:32:02 <Qball> got backups, and a install doesn't take that long 08:32:11 <Qball> a game of openttd is longer 08:33:20 <TL|Away> But ttha doesn't really say anything 08:33:25 <TL|Away> I know openttd games of several days :p 08:34:06 <Rubidium> ofcourse and OTTD game can have infinite length 08:34:15 <Rubidium> s/and/an/ 08:35:01 *** Mucht|work [n=Mucht@62.99.225.122] has joined #openttd 08:35:02 *** roboman [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:36:01 <TL|Away> :) 08:36:17 <TL|Away> I finally have a working 64bit USB Wireless on linux :) 08:38:25 *** Nickman87 [n=nickman@dD5778837.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:38:34 <Nickman87> hi, any admins here? 08:38:34 *** RichK67_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 08:38:53 <TL|Away> admins for what? 08:40:27 <Qball> TL|Away: average openttd game for me is 1/2 a day 08:40:36 <Qball> then more pressing stuff comes up 08:40:42 <TL|Away> Qball: that puts it more in context :) 08:40:59 <Nickman87> why is tehre a pass on the coop sandbox company? 08:41:09 *** mode/#openttd [+o TL|Away] by ChanServ 08:41:23 *** Nickman87 was kicked from #openttd by TL|Away [Bogger off to your own channel] 08:41:44 *** mode/#openttd [-o TL|Away] by TL|Away 08:43:09 <TL|Away> The coop game does bring out the strangest kind of people 08:43:44 <Qball> yep. 08:43:50 <Qball> you are acting strange 08:43:58 <TL|Away> Tnx :) 08:44:25 <Qball> I thought only Tron did random kicks 08:44:39 <Qball> he made it an art 08:44:44 <TL|Away> Might be, this just isn't random ;) 08:46:19 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:46:22 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 08:46:35 <Bjarni> now it's official: freenode hates me 08:46:46 <Qball> Bjarni: save us from TL|Away he is doing random kicking... even when he is away 08:46:52 <Bjarni> I got a timeout and then I got two timeouts when trying to reconnect 08:47:13 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:47:26 <Bjarni> TL|Away: now I missed your reply :( 08:50:08 <TL|Away> Bjarni: reply to what? 08:50:20 <TL|Away> you neevr said anything 08:51:11 <Bjarni> how should I know that? 08:51:25 <TL|Away> I am telling you now 08:51:49 <TL|Away> Lol, my wlan switches to 1 Mb/s :( 08:53:52 <peter1138> that's lollable? 08:54:25 <RichK67_wrk> hi guys... there is an assert in trunk.... can you fix it with this?? (I dont have compile facilities here) http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=466763#466763 08:54:46 <TL|Away> RichK67_wrk: there are tons of asserts in the trunk, your point? :p 08:55:30 <RichK67_wrk> this is changing one digit from a 7 to an 8... so it can be done easily, but i cant do a compile/test cycle at work 08:56:07 <TL|Away> RichK67_wrk: why don't you use bugs.openttd.org for it? 08:56:43 <RichK67_wrk> because its on there... (have you actually clicked the link??) 08:56:55 <TL|Away> The way to solve it? 08:57:01 <TL|Away> No, you just posted it on the tt-forums 08:57:06 <TL|Away> we don't work on the tt-forums 08:57:11 <TL|Away> bugs.openttd.org is the place to post that 08:57:15 <TL|Away> (As the bug itself is there too) 08:58:02 <RichK67_wrk> i was more informing the poster than you... (dont be so "follow the procedure"... its a one character fix) 08:58:26 <TL|Away> RichK67_wrk: hehe, you might find it follow the procedure 08:58:34 <TL|Away> for me it is just keeping bugs.openttd.org logic and readable 09:00:29 <RichK67_wrk> ok... http://bugs.openttd.org/task/241 good enough? 09:01:02 <TL|Away> See, that I can work with 09:01:22 <RichK67_wrk> is your middle name Dalestan? 09:02:18 <TL|Away> want a kick? 09:02:26 <TL|Away> Qball just told me I am a random kicker 09:02:26 <TL|Away> so 09:03:03 <CIA-3> truelight * r5494 /trunk/station_map.h: -Fix: [#241] an enum with 2 equal numbers is rarely a good idea ;) (RichK67) 09:03:40 <peter1138> i prefer enums which number themselves... 09:03:46 <TL|Away> peter1138: me 2 09:03:47 <RichK67_wrk> bah... typo would have been kinder 09:03:56 <TL|Away> but those enums can't be done like that I guess 09:04:00 <TL|Away> RichK67_wrk: I am _not_ kind 09:04:01 <RichK67_wrk> and it was mart3p 09:04:25 <TL|Away> so next time let him reply in bugs.openttd.org 09:04:28 <RichK67_wrk> (read my links... i dont put them there for fun...) 09:04:48 <TL|Away> okay, so I won't commit anything for you anymore 09:04:49 <TL|Away> no problem 09:05:40 <RichK67_wrk> ok - yeah, its a lot harder work than its worth :P ;) 09:06:01 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 09:06:39 <TL|Away> peter1138: did you try that Makefile thingy? 09:09:24 <TL|Away> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/208 <- some people are so funny! Always trying to 'force' there thing as most important :) 09:09:55 <TL|Away> even telling how long it would take and when itshould be done :) 09:12:55 <Bjarni> if he is so well into what needs to be done, then he should code it 09:12:55 <Zavior> The idea itself isn't bad 09:13:04 <RichK67_wrk> hmm... 30 mins tops??? maybe he should write a patch first then ;) 09:13:04 <TL|Away> Zavior: I agree, but the way he asks... ;) 09:13:07 <Bjarni> I know for sure that I would not be able to code it in 30 minutes 09:13:21 <TL|Away> Bjarni: I am sure I can, but that is an other story :p 09:14:08 <RichK67_wrk> yeah... maybe write the bare hack of it in 30 mins.... then testing it would take .. rather longer.. debugging longer still 09:17:41 <peter1138> TL|Away: that 208 was originally put up as high priority, severity urgent, due in version 0.4.8... 09:17:55 <peter1138> or whatever the highest values are ;p 09:18:16 <TL|Away> really.. amazing how important people can consider themself :) 09:18:22 <peter1138> ah, as the history says :) 09:18:28 <peter1138> priority: immediate 09:18:34 <peter1138> severity: critical 09:18:42 <peter1138> even the subject, heh 09:18:49 <peter1138> how the feck can a url be important? heh 09:19:07 <TL|Away> :) 09:19:38 <peter1138> if it was a standard feature request, i might've thought about doing it, heh... 09:19:48 <peter1138> i think i've used up my "heh" quota 09:20:10 <TL|Away> I think so too 09:25:03 <TL|Away> pompiedom 09:31:50 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:48:21 <Bjarni> did I time out again? 09:48:40 <TL|Away> nah 09:48:54 <Bjarni> ahh, you played the idle trick on me 09:48:56 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 09:49:00 <Bjarni> mean guys >_< 09:49:08 <TL|Away> sue me 09:50:54 <Bjarni> if we were in USA, I would 09:53:35 <Tobin> Man, the MacOS X Yahoo messenger client doesn't suck nearly as much as I thought it would. 09:54:13 <Tobin> The current beta anyway. 09:54:43 <Bjarni> Tobin: you should be asleep now 09:54:48 <Bjarni> it's daylight outside 09:55:47 <Tobin> TL|Away: RE: the guy forcing his item to be high priority. He was a real dick about the time he submitted that too. He also confused people telling him he was acting stupid with people shooting down his idea. 09:56:07 <Tobin> Bjarni: It's 19:55 and I haven't had dinner yet. 09:56:21 <TL|Away> Tobin: hehe 09:58:44 <izhirahider> guys, how can I overwrite a file I edited with a fresh copy if I edited it in svn? 09:58:52 <izhirahider> using* 09:59:07 <izhirahider> instead of getting the whole tree again 09:59:28 <Tobin> svn revert $filename 09:59:42 <peter1138> heh 09:59:46 <izhirahider> the problem I changed a lot of files :/ 09:59:50 <peter1138> svn revert -R . 09:59:55 <izhirahider> ah ha 10:00:46 <izhirahider> thank you 10:01:02 <peter1138> svn help :P 10:01:13 <izhirahider> both are really useful 10:01:33 <TL|Away> www.google.com -> subversion redbook 10:06:10 <Tobin> How do you get to the history of a report on bugs.openttd.org? 10:07:14 <TL|Away> You have to login for that 10:07:51 <TL|Away> I hate SF 10:07:55 <TL|Away> I have a 100 mbit server 10:08:02 <TL|Away> more peerings then my arm is long 10:08:06 <TL|Away> connected to AIX 10:08:07 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387CDB5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:08:08 <TL|Away> and blablabla 10:08:14 <TL|Away> then you start uploading to the lovely SF servers 10:08:16 <TL|Away> 8886055 bytes sent in 182 secs (48 Kbytes/sec) 10:08:20 <TL|Away> then is THAT the result 10:08:24 <TL|Away> WTF? :) 10:10:44 <TheMask96> TL|Away: you do know you have to connect to the SF servers using a direct-link with a UTP cable to have some sort of fast connection? ;) 10:11:03 <TL|Away> hehe 10:12:42 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 10:13:27 * peter1138 likes to connect to SF servers with a sledge hammer 10:13:40 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387CDB5.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:35:46 *** Sacro [n=ben@83.100.253.93] has joined #openttd 10:44:53 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 10:48:03 <SpComb> FAKEEEEEE!!!!1111 10:51:40 <Sacro> lollzors 10:53:46 <peter1138> hmm, hungry 10:53:46 <peter1138> still 10:53:49 <peter1138> or again 10:53:53 <peter1138> WHO KNOWS 10:54:00 <Sacro> you? 10:57:07 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:59:52 <TL|Away> 0.4.8-RC1 is now official released 10:59:57 <TL|Away> files should be at SF any minute now 11:00:09 <TL|Away> (but this time it is SF that needs to do the work :p) 11:04:51 <SpComb> hah hah hah, /me just ate a kebab! 11:04:58 * SpComb taunts peter1138 11:13:55 *** Red230 is now known as Red 11:20:14 *** Rens2Sea [n=Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openTTD 11:30:43 <peter1138> wha? 11:30:48 <peter1138> kebab! 11:30:50 <peter1138> hmm 11:31:01 <SpComb> mmmh! 11:31:22 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:33:48 <peter1138> hmm 11:33:49 <peter1138> was tron here? 11:34:18 <SpComb> not for a while 11:34:19 *** roboman [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:34:42 * SpComb ducates peter1138 in the use of !logs 11:34:45 <SpComb> *educates 11:36:07 <SpComb> http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd/view/2006-07-01~443#goto 11:36:20 <SpComb> generally, http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd/search/20@tron 11:37:13 <SpComb> so he was last active on the first 11:41:31 <peter1138> hmm 11:41:41 <peter1138> Last Seen: 1 day (15h 13m 41s) ago 11:44:58 *** roboman [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:51:14 *** Tino|Home [n=Tino@i5387CDB5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:52:29 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: PING 11:52:52 <SpComb> peter1138: hmm, I had a network outage, but it wasn't very long... 11:54:40 <SpComb> Eddi|zuHause: no grepping logs! 11:55:01 <Eddi|zuHause> ? 11:56:01 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 11:58:10 *** Splatman1984 [n=mark@85-210-113-51.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 11:58:54 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387CDB5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:59:54 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387CDB5.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 12:03:17 <SpComb> !grep <days> <what> 12:03:33 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:03:51 *** SpComb^ [i=terom@munki3.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 12:03:51 *** SpComb^ [i=terom@munki3.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 12:03:54 <SpComb^> observe. 12:03:54 <SpComb^> observe. 12:03:57 <SpComb^> !grep 20 tron 12:03:57 <SpComb> http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd/search/20@tron 12:03:57 <SpComb^> !grep 20 tron 12:03:58 <SpComb> http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd/search/20@tron 12:04:37 *** SpComb^ [i=terom@munki3.paivola.fi] has left #openttd ["så där"] 12:04:37 *** SpComb^ [i=terom@munki3.paivola.fi] has left #openttd ["så där"] 12:05:47 <SpComb> hmm, you probably can't do conditionals and variable assignments in irssi aliases 12:05:59 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k886.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 12:06:24 <Splatman1984> Silly question, I am working on a patch if I have a StationID how would I go about finding out if a vehcile stops there? 12:07:18 <Celestar> so? 12:07:42 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81A86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:08:18 <Celestar> Splatman1984: cycle through its orders? 12:09:14 <Celestar> Splatman1984: check the "CheckOrders" function for ideas 12:11:10 *** TL|Away is now known as TrueLight 12:11:12 <Splatman1984> ah ha thanks 12:14:20 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 12:15:02 *** Tino|Home [n=Tino@i5387CDB5.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:15:26 *** eQualizer [n=lauri@dyn13-168.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:17:48 <TrueLight> pompiedom 12:17:52 <TrueLight> ndiswrapper rules :) 12:18:01 <Celestar> ndiswrapper bein? 12:18:06 <TrueLight> bein? 12:19:10 *** Sacro [n=ben@83.100.253.93] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:19:20 *** Sacro [n=ben@83.100.253.93] has joined #openttd 12:23:50 <Richlv> yeah. rc1 available 12:23:52 <Richlv> thanks :) 12:24:02 <TrueLight> have fun :) 12:25:06 <Celestar> bein== being 12:25:28 <TrueLight> ah, ndiswrapper makes it possible to load Windows .inf files to enabled, say, USB Wireless device 12:25:32 <TrueLight> also USB Wired devices should work 12:25:36 <TrueLight> and Wireless devices in general 12:26:05 <TrueLight> (it 'emulates' the NDIS of Windows, so .sys files work without modification) 12:26:29 <Richlv> ndiswrapper allows to load windows drivers (coded against ndis) - it also was used for ethernet cards some time ago 12:26:31 <Celestar> uh huh 12:26:42 <Celestar> I don't havta use that crap \o/ 12:26:43 <Richlv> but yeah, nowadays it's mostly wireless adapters from crappy vendors ;) 12:26:49 <TrueLight> so, I have my Linksys USB working on Linux :p 12:27:39 <TrueLight> the linux kernel supports only a few usb network devices (wired or wireless) 12:27:43 <TrueLight> and some support even is broken 12:29:16 <Zavior> Hopefully the kernel will support my network card someday 12:29:26 <TrueLight> soooooooooooooooooooo 12:29:31 <TrueLight> what shall I Do next..... 12:29:39 <Zavior> Support for my network card 12:29:54 <TrueLight> donate me a system with the network card 12:29:55 <TrueLight> and Imight :p 12:30:09 <Zavior> k, next time you visit finland 12:30:18 <TrueLight> who knows :) 12:30:38 <Zavior> I know I wont be home then BD 12:30:38 <ln-> will 0.4.8 ship with the original graphics and sound files? 12:30:57 <TrueLight> ln-: lol :) 12:32:04 <ln-> TrueLight: given that even now ottd contains copyrighted material from TTD, it wouldn't be such a big change. and would make people's lives easier. 12:32:30 <ln-> i'm referring to the strings. 12:32:40 <ln-> english strings especially. 12:33:07 <TrueLight> I believe that is the funniest reason I have got till now :) 12:33:11 <Celestar> cool 12:33:21 <Celestar> the Intel X6800 really shows some nice performance data 12:33:24 <TrueLight> we should release the graphics, because we use the copyrighted strings... 12:33:36 <Celestar> will it be enough to run windows vista like my 386 runs Win95? 12:33:45 <TrueLight> Celestar: doubtful 12:33:52 <TrueLight> nothing is powerful enough to make Vista run anywhere near smooth 12:33:56 <Celestar> I don't think so either 12:34:01 <ln-> TrueLight: no, not because of that, but because getting the data files is extra trouble. 12:34:02 * TrueLight shits on Vista 12:34:11 * Celestar has already put a Vista ban onto this deparment 12:34:43 <TrueLight> ln-: but we do need to keep you busy, don't we? 12:35:00 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36689.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:35:12 <ln-> TrueLight: that's a valid point. 12:36:27 <ln-> so... when will the elrails be included in a release version? 12:36:39 <Eddi|zuHause> in 0.5.0 12:36:51 <Celestar> unless Tron decides to remove them 12:36:58 <Eddi|zuHause> lol :p 12:38:07 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B75208.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 12:38:15 <TrueLight> 1-0 for Celestar here in the corner 12:38:24 <Celestar> actually this wasn't meant as a joke 12:38:26 <Celestar> :P 12:38:33 <TrueLight> So you didn't succeed :) 12:39:13 <ln-> it sounded too probable to be a joke 12:39:49 <TrueLight> lucky for you Celestar, elrails is very stable :) 12:39:58 <Celestar> was bridges unstable? 12:40:02 <TrueLight> dunno 12:40:03 <TrueLight> never tried it 12:40:11 <Celestar> I didn't receive a SIGNLE bug report 12:40:22 <TrueLight> Yeah, graphical glitches 12:40:25 <Celestar> apart from someGUI problems 12:40:35 <TrueLight> but okay, Tron was just pissed that his name wasn't on the commit message :p 12:40:51 <TheMask96> lol :) 12:40:52 <ln-> Celestar: did you happen to have a look at my patch, which fixes annoying feature that regular rails and elrails cannot be easily built to intersect? 12:41:06 <Celestar> so who will merge bridges? 12:41:17 <Celestar> ln-: no not yet, please poke me on monday? 12:41:20 <TrueLight> Celestar: hehe, I have no problems remerging it to the trunk :p 12:41:29 <TrueLight> I have been yelled at so many times, that it doesn't even hurt anymore 12:41:30 <ln-> Celestar: ok. 12:42:02 <Celestar> TrueLight: drop him a mail please, if he doesn't answer for 2 weeks, ... 12:42:03 <hylje> i should try out bridgebranch a bit 12:42:04 <Celestar> *boom* 12:42:22 <TrueLight> Celestar: so you just want to find someone that emails him to ask him if he died or not? 12:42:26 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B75208.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:42:36 <Celestar> TrueLight: kind of, yeah 12:42:52 <TrueLight> e 12:42:53 <TrueLight> hehe 12:42:56 <TrueLight> sorry, won't d othat :) 12:43:08 <TrueLight> I guess that is a job for Darkvater :p 12:43:31 <Celestar> I don't feel like sending any SYN packets to Tron 12:43:31 *** Sacro [n=ben@83.100.253.93] has quit [Connection timed out] 12:45:33 <ln-> does anyone know Tron's snail mail address? ... we could send him patches by mail. 12:45:43 <ln-> or post cards. 12:45:44 <hylje> heh 12:45:52 <hylje> lets ddos him 12:45:55 <hylje> with mail 12:45:59 <TrueLight> people 12:46:05 <TrueLight> a bit more respectful please 12:46:10 <hylje> :( 12:46:52 <ln-> i didn't suggest ddosing 12:48:23 <TheMask96> yes.. just have a little ms. Franklin thoughts... 12:48:42 <TheMask96> R.E.S.P.E.C.T. 12:49:06 <TheMask96> or think... what you're trying to do to tron, yeaahh... yeah yeah yeaaahh... 12:49:28 <TheMask96> (it's friday... just ignore me ;) ) 12:49:40 <TrueLight> okay 12:49:49 * ln- will be visiting München in couple of weeks 12:49:58 <Celestar> ln-: really? 12:50:04 <Celestar> when? why? 12:50:17 <hylje> why not 12:50:19 <hylje> :o 12:50:19 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-201-101.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["-"] 12:52:33 <ln-> Celestar: really. me + a friend of mine are renting a car at genève, then driving with it to münchen, after looking at the alps. arriving on august 3rd, flying back to finland on august 4th. 12:53:34 <Celestar> oh nice 12:56:09 <ln-> too bad the maglev route to the airport is not quite finished or even started yet. :) 13:04:43 <TrueLight> http://www.openttd.org/downloads.php <- I released the MD5s of all the binaries we have 13:04:43 *** roboman [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:04:49 <TrueLight> so people can confirm that they have the real thing 13:05:10 *** Frostregen_ [n=sucks@dslb-084-058-100-057.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:08:21 *** DaleStan [n=chatzill@pool-71-248-22-158.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 13:08:30 <mikk36> mornin' :) 13:08:32 <mikk36> a question 13:08:50 <mikk36> my dedicated server crashed, but the "submit report" button was greyed out... 13:09:19 <TrueLight> because that information is totally useless for us 13:09:31 <TrueLight> (That is, nobody is here that can read and understand those reports) 13:09:31 <mikk36> ok 13:10:07 <ln-> Celestar: is there something particularly interesting that a tourist with not very much time should see? (i already have deutsches museum in mind, although i've been there once.) 13:10:10 <mikk36> then mayb someone would write an extra line there to not panic if the button is greyed out 13:11:20 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:11:25 <Belugas> hello all 13:11:35 <RichK67_wrk> howdeee 13:12:02 <Belugas> hello RichK67_wrk :) 13:13:09 <RichK67_wrk> my nick should be RichK67_not_feeling_well_but_at_work_anyway_and_wishing_i_was_back_home_with_a_paracetemol_drink 13:13:18 <hylje> too bad the nicklen is so short 13:13:24 <RichK67_wrk> yup :) 13:13:28 <TrueLight> RichK67_wrk: GO HOME! 13:13:41 <mikk36> lol 13:13:47 <RichK67_wrk> too much to do... although you grep gurus could help 13:14:24 <RichK67_wrk> i want to find the files that do contain the string "BadPIN", but *do not* contain the string "PIN_Unblock"... any ideas?? 13:15:22 <TheMask96> can't you create a list of files containing string one, and a list containing string 2, and then do a diff on both lists? (or something like that) 13:15:26 <TrueLight> grep "BadPIN" * | grep -v "PIN_Unblock" 13:15:43 <TheMask96> or you can listen to TrueLight :) 13:16:06 <Maedhros> TrueLight: that'll only find lines that contain BadPin and not PIN_Unblock, not files... 13:16:38 <RichK67_wrk> Maedhros: yup - that was my problem too 13:16:42 <TrueLight> and it shows the files that only contains BadPIN, and not PIN_Unblock 13:16:54 *** Splatman1984 [n=mark@85-210-113-51.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [] 13:16:55 <TrueLight> so a | cut -d: -f 1 13:16:57 <TrueLight> shows the files 13:17:02 *** roboman [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:17:10 <RichK67_wrk> any windows translation? :) 13:17:24 <RichK67_wrk> i have gnu grep for win 13:17:37 <TrueLight> should work too 13:17:47 <RichK67_wrk> ok, ill try 13:20:00 <RichK67_wrk> nope - matches every file (of 2250) 13:20:31 <TrueLight> grep BadPIN * 13:20:34 <RichK67_wrk> there should be about 500 BadPIN, about 250+ PIN_Unblock... so about 250 without 13:20:36 <TrueLight> should only match files that contain BadPIN 13:20:49 <TrueLight> it shows the matching file and the line 13:20:50 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 13:20:51 <TrueLight> so you get multiple hits 13:20:53 <TrueLight> per file 13:21:12 <RichK67_wrk> yup - ive got an extract with the -l option to list only the filename 13:23:28 *** Frostregen [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-165-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:23:48 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 13:25:06 <RichK67_wrk> hi frostregen... fun little game on the brianetta server... alkalamania keeps joining, then fails to be profitable and goes bankrupt again... :) done it three times now ;) 13:25:14 <Zavior> :D 13:25:26 <Zavior> Akalamanaia pwns. 13:26:06 *** Sacro [n=ben@83.100.253.93] has joined #openttd 13:26:11 <RichK67_wrk> granted he did try shipping steel by air :) (duh!) 13:26:18 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81A86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 13:26:37 <roboman> gnight 13:27:24 <Zavior> :D 13:28:21 <Sacro> RichK67_wrk: build plane at one end...dismantle at the other...its easy :P 13:28:47 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-128-201.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 13:28:57 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-128-201.red.bezeqint.net] has left #openttd [] 13:28:59 <RichK67_wrk> lol 13:29:46 *** ammler [n=marcel@zux181-026.adsl.green.ch] has joined #openttd 13:29:50 *** ammler [n=marcel@zux181-026.adsl.green.ch] has left #openttd [] 13:30:06 *** ammler [n=marcel@zux181-026.adsl.green.ch] has joined #openttd 13:32:53 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:41:02 *** ammler [n=marcel@zux181-026.adsl.green.ch] has left #openttd [] 13:41:43 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:48:10 *** egladil_ibook [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has joined #openttd 13:48:10 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181092071.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:52:19 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@tnt-2-56.easynet.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:53:10 <TrueLight> Did you guys know that we have just 6 0.4.5 servers running 13:53:18 <TrueLight> that there are no longer 0.4.0.1 servers running 13:53:33 <TrueLight> that I hope 0.4.7 will be replaced faster to 0.4.8 then people updated to 0.4.5 :p 13:54:18 <TheMask96> i didn't know you hoped that :), but I guess we all are hoping the same thing :) 13:54:43 *** egladil [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:54:50 <TrueLight> Till 2 weeks ago, people still used 0.4.0.1 13:54:54 *** RichK67_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [] 13:54:55 <TrueLight> really... I mean.. COME ON! :p 13:54:59 *** egladil_ibook is now known as egladil 13:55:37 <TheMask96> really? 13:55:43 <coppercore> wow 13:55:48 <coppercore> oldskool anyone? 13:56:54 <ln-> so where is mr. Tron? does he have a life? 13:57:07 <TheMask96> well... it's no big surprise... still 4% of people also still use windows 98... can't imagine who wants to use that... 13:57:30 <TrueLight> remove the 98 part, and I repeat the same sentence :) 13:57:40 <TheMask96> keeping up-to-date is kinda hard for a lot of people 13:57:42 <Tobin> I think it has got a bit to do with people who setup a "l337 nEw Ueber de1cat3d server" then neglect it utterly. 13:57:42 <TheMask96> lol :) 13:57:50 *** RichK67_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 13:58:09 <TrueLight> Hehe, I remember at the time I wrote the dedicated server 13:58:16 <TrueLight> most of the devs complained that it was an unneeded feature 13:58:18 <TrueLight> nobody would use it 13:58:20 <TrueLight> and what was the use of it 13:58:23 <Tobin> I mean, it's lots of fun to start something but less exciting to maintain it. 13:58:26 <TrueLight> now, 90% of the servers online are dedicated :p 14:09:29 *** tokai 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<mikk36> what users ? 14:20:26 <TrueLight> clients 14:20:28 <TrueLight> connected clients 14:20:32 <mikk36> nop 14:20:34 <TrueLight> yes 14:20:41 <mikk36> or.. hmm 14:20:54 <mikk36> ok, then third ? 14:21:07 <TrueLight> it should be name 14:21:11 <TrueLight> but that doesn't look like it 14:21:31 <TrueLight> ah, yes 14:21:32 <TrueLight> name :) 14:22:04 <mikk36> signs are at end ? 14:22:11 <TrueLight> signs? 14:22:14 <mikk36> symbols 14:22:20 <TrueLight> normal mysql sorting 14:22:36 <mikk36> hmm, ok 14:23:37 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-208-066.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:23:58 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@user-5976.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:25:34 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:28:15 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@tnt-2-56.easynet.co.uk] has quit ["Dialup sucks"] 14:30:37 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:33:30 *** 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[n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 16:02:39 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E9E2.pool.t-online.hu] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 16:13:18 *** ammler [n=marcel@zux181-026.adsl.green.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:18:19 <TrueLight> mikk36: you made the channel silent :( 16:18:53 <Belugas> shhhhhhut , they are all slipping :S 16:19:04 <Belugas> sleeping... 16:19:09 <TrueLight> hehehehehehe 16:19:12 <TrueLight> BOE! 16:19:33 <Belugas> lol 16:22:45 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 16:26:00 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 16:27:07 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-5976.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:41:30 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 16:42:17 <hylje> slipping away 16:42:51 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host86-238.pool870.interbusiness.it] has joined #OpenTTD 16:42:59 <Wolf01> yo 16:43:17 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 16:44:26 *** wolf^_ [n=wolf@team.pld-linux.org] has quit [Client Quit] 16:44:32 *** wolf^ [i=wolf@pld-linux/wolf] has joined #openttd 16:48:50 *** Damme [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 16:50:44 *** ChrisM87 [n=ChrisM@p54AC5FEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:51:07 <ChrisM87> With 0.4.8 RC my secondary industries (like sawmill) stop producing goods. 16:51:10 <ChrisM87> Is this a known bug? 16:51:28 <Noldo> they are getting wood? 16:51:57 <ChrisM87> of course they do 16:52:03 <ChrisM87> the safegame worked fine with 0.4.7 16:52:45 <Noldo> ah, stopped in that timeline 16:53:52 <ChrisM87> this is so bad, what am i supposed to do now? 16:54:05 <ChrisM87> I can't believe that such a huge bug made it into an RC 16:54:09 <Noldo> file a bug report 16:55:56 <ChrisM87> and my save game is lost? 16:55:57 <ChrisM87> bad thing 16:56:09 <ChrisM87> i can't go back to 0.4.7 with it 16:56:26 <Noldo> now that is really bad 16:56:32 <CIA-3> miham * r5495 /trunk/lang/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 16:56:32 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-07-14 18:55:51 16:56:32 <CIA-3> brazilian_portuguese - 10 changed by tucalipe (10) 16:56:32 <CIA-3> bulgarian - 26 fixed by groupsky (26) 16:56:32 <CIA-3> italian - 1 fixed by sidew (1) 16:56:33 <CIA-3> slovak - 22 fixed by lengyel (22) 16:56:35 <Noldo> do you have any old autosaves 16:57:11 <MiHaMiX> Total I18N status: 96% - 2910 bad strings out of 73556 strings 16:57:23 <MiHaMiX> (it was never that high :) 17:00:58 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 17:01:29 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Client Quit] 17:11:05 <ln-> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3382491587979249836 17:12:35 <TrueLight> ChrisM87: for that it is called a release candidate.. it _can_ contain bugs 17:25:16 <mikk36> (19:18:19) (TrueLight) mikk36: you made the channel silent :( <-- lol :D 17:25:59 *** Morlark [n=Sean@host81-151-253-196.range81-151.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:39:10 <TrueLight> pompiedom 17:42:53 <Belugas> TrueLight : Would you tell me where are the trunk nightlies log, please? 17:43:11 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B60E91.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:43:17 <TrueLight> Belugas: check the downloads page -> nightlies -> bottom link 17:43:34 <Belugas> ok. thanks 17:50:04 *** Sacro_ [n=ben@adsl-83-100-175-80.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:54:06 <CIA-3> belugas * r5496 /trunk/ (currency.c newgrf.c): H:\SVN\Commiters\mapping.txt 17:54:19 <TrueLight> Belugas: nice commit message : 17:54:20 <TrueLight> p 17:55:29 * TrueLight slaps Belugas hard 17:55:31 *** Belugas is now known as CIA_3 17:55:34 <TrueLight> check commits before committing them 17:55:37 <CIA_3> [CodeChange] Removed two compiler warnings. 17:55:42 <CIA_3> 1) add newline at end of file in currency.c. 17:55:47 <CIA_3> 2) remove unused (for now) CargosChangeInfo 17:55:59 *** CIA_3 is now known as Belugas 17:56:13 <scia> CIA-3 is slow today :p 17:56:24 <Belugas> batch file wrongly written 17:56:36 <TrueLight> Belugas: shouldn't this have gone to the newgrf_lab branch? 17:56:44 <TrueLight> because 1) seems to be the case in the branch, not in the trunk 17:57:08 <Belugas> oups... 17:57:24 <Belugas> although 2) is right 17:57:29 <TrueLight> :) If you say so 17:57:40 <TrueLight> the other thing, don't commit between 19:45 and 20:15 please :) 17:57:55 <Belugas> it is THAT LATE??? 17:58:04 <glx> [19:57:56] <Belugas> it is THAT LATE??? 17:58:09 <Belugas> sorry, i though I had half an hour in front of me 17:58:13 <TrueLight> hehe ;) 17:58:35 <glx> Belugas: your are at -6 I think 17:58:48 <Belugas> yes 17:58:58 <Belugas> 14:00 right now 17:59:44 <glx> so don't commit between 13:45 and 14:15 please :) 18:00:55 <Belugas> I though it was around 13:15, as my collegues just came back form lunch 18:00:59 <Belugas> the took too long 18:01:07 <Belugas> and i've been desynched :) 18:01:21 <Belugas> I'm a habit guy 18:01:25 <Belugas> routine 18:02:27 <glx> TrueLight: do you have access to the log database (to fix latest commit :) ) 18:02:30 <glx> ? 18:02:31 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AFK 18:02:49 <TrueLight> glx: I have, but I rarely find it really useful :p 18:02:53 <TrueLight> bu tokay, will do so in a moment 18:04:07 <Sacro_> hmm...shall i learn vim 18:04:24 <TrueLight> Belugas: now I did almost the same... ;) (was about to commit something :)) 18:04:30 <TrueLight> peter1138: found the bug about building rails on road pieces 18:04:44 <Sacro_> bugs...? in openttd...? 18:04:47 <Belugas> i'm contagious ;) 18:04:55 * Sacro_ itches 18:06:25 <TrueLight> Belugas / glx: fixed wrong log message 18:11:32 <TrueLight> 4 more minutes... 18:11:34 <TrueLight> tick tack 18:13:59 *** Wolf01|AFK is now known as Wolf01 18:14:11 <CIA-3> truelight * r5497 /trunk/rail_cmd.c: -Fix: somehow in r5315 slipped some wrong logic, allowed you to build rail on all road pieces without really building it ;) 18:15:13 <Sacro_> [19:14] <CIA-3> truelight * r5497 <--- [19:00] <glx> so don't commit between 13:45 and 14:15 please :) 18:15:31 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8223C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:15:31 <TrueLight> Yeah, I was 50 seconds early 18:15:47 <Belugas> thanks TrueLight 18:16:09 <TrueLight> Tron's attempts to clean up the code sometimes result in wrong logic.... 18:16:22 <TrueLight> you can't make all if statements more logic :( 18:18:40 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 18:22:12 <Wolf01> but you can simplify them with karnaugh 18:23:13 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@84.184.26.134] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:23:26 <TrueLight> sure sure, in your world, you can :) 18:24:37 <Wolf01> i always use k-maps if i need a particular logic 18:25:22 <TrueLight> peter1138 / Celestar / Belugas / who ever: the bug that a sawmail doesn't produce wood is verified, it doesn't in RC1..... 18:25:53 <TrueLight> (in fact, ALL industries have this problem) 18:26:07 <peter1138> yay, who made that bug? 18:26:33 <TrueLight> peter1138: if we knew where it was... :p 18:26:50 <TrueLight> wow, the patch from 0.4.7 to 0.4.8-RC1 is big 18:27:40 <peter1138> yeah 18:27:50 <peter1138> flog a dead horse 'n stuff 18:29:37 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit ["It's a new quit message!"] 18:30:52 <Belugas> TrueLight, can you send me the patch? don't have the time to learn how to make one against those, but have a few moments now and then to read some code... 18:31:17 <Belugas> hello peter1138, by the way :) 18:31:19 <TrueLight> svn diff svn://svn.openttd.org/tags/0.4.7 svn://svn.openttd.org/tags/0.4.8-RC1 > 0.4.7-0.4.8-RC1.diff 18:31:40 <TrueLight> Belugas: you only need subversion installed :) 18:33:22 <Belugas> mainly a better knowledge on svn mechanisms ;) 18:33:27 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-175-80.karoo.KCOM.COM] 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18:41:33 <TrueLight> - (t = DistanceManhattan(ind->xy, xy)) < 2 * u) { 18:41:33 <TrueLight> + (t = DistanceManhattan(ind->xy, xy)) < 2) { 18:42:00 <TrueLight> it seems like someone changed the wrong thing ;) 18:42:36 <TrueLight> 4508 by Celestar in trunk 18:42:43 <TrueLight> 4677 by Darkvater in 0.4 branch 18:43:09 <ChrisM87> Which file is this? 18:43:14 <TrueLight> economy.c 18:43:19 <ChrisM87> thx 18:43:33 <TrueLight> lol 18:43:40 <TrueLight> it can now only find industries in a 2 radius 18:43:53 * TrueLight slaps Darkvater REALLY hard 18:43:55 *** stavrosg [n=stavrosg@athedsl-08476.otenet.gr] has joined #openttd 18:43:58 <TrueLight> in trunk, the change is 18:44:10 <TrueLight> - (t = DistanceManhattan(ind->xy, xy)) < 2 * u) { 18:44:10 <TrueLight> + (t = DistanceManhattan(ind->xy, xy)) < u) { 18:44:15 <TrueLight> see the small difference ;) 18:45:35 <TrueLight> this should do it 18:45:37 <CIA-3> truelight * r5498 /branches/0.4/economy.c: 18:45:37 <CIA-3> -Fix: in r4677, Darkvater ported patch r4508 from trunk wrongly into the 0.4 18:45:37 <CIA-3> branch. Because of that stations no longer delivered goods to industries if they 18:45:37 <CIA-3> were more then 2 tiles away, instead of the allowed station_spread * 2. 18:45:38 <TrueLight> ChrisM87: like to test it? 18:45:41 <ChrisM87> i changed both lines 18:45:42 <ChrisM87> and it works 18:45:43 <ChrisM87> :) 18:45:47 <TrueLight> both? 18:45:51 <TrueLight> no need to change both lines 18:45:53 <TrueLight> it should be: 18:45:58 <TrueLight> u = (_patches.station_spread + 8) * 2; 18:45:59 <TrueLight> and 18:46:04 <TrueLight> (t = DistanceManhattan(ind->xy, xy)) < u) { 18:46:07 <TrueLight> can you confirm that is working? 18:46:24 <ChrisM87> wait one moment 18:47:43 <Belugas> around 600k of lang changes 18:47:43 <ChrisM87> works!! 18:47:50 <ChrisM87> @TrueLight 18:47:51 <peter1138> heh 18:47:55 <Belugas> congrats TrueLight 18:47:56 <TrueLight> hmmz, now I finally understands why sometimes industry delivery was wrong :) 18:47:57 <TrueLight> good 18:48:05 <TrueLight> peter1138 / Celestar / Bjarni: we need to release RC2 ASAP! 18:48:10 <TrueLight> RC1 is simply totally broken 18:48:12 <peter1138> yup 18:48:20 <TrueLight> I suggest to do it tomorrow 18:48:20 <peter1138> heh, at least it was an RC this time :) 18:48:25 <TrueLight> yeah :) 18:48:30 <ChrisM87> Are there other bugs except this one? 18:48:36 <ChrisM87> in RC1 18:48:39 <TrueLight> ChrisM87: yes, some minor ones 18:48:56 <ChrisM87> ok, but thx for your help 18:49:04 <ChrisM87> i'll now continue playing with my fixed RC1 18:49:09 <ChrisM87> and search for new bugs ;) 18:49:21 <TrueLight> :) Please do so :) 18:49:27 <TrueLight> btw, multiplayer games are impossible with your client now :) 18:49:30 <TrueLight> I hope you understand taht :) 18:50:08 <Bjarni> TrueLight: so soon? 18:50:13 <TrueLight> things fixed in RC2: morphos thingies, macosx thingies, autoreplace and this bug 18:50:14 <Bjarni> I just made a release on SF today 18:50:22 <TrueLight> Bjarni: RC1 is unplayable, so you want to remove it ASAP 18:50:31 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B75208.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:50:46 <Bjarni> right 18:50:54 <Bjarni> so I should hide it from SF again? 18:50:58 <Bjarni> right away? 18:51:12 * peter1138 hides Bjarni 18:51:29 <TrueLight> Bjarni: won't help 18:51:36 <TrueLight> and bad advertising 18:51:41 <TrueLight> you need a new RC 18:51:44 <TrueLight> then people don't mind that much 18:51:51 <TrueLight> (I mean, therefor it is a RC 18:52:00 <peter1138> yeah 18:52:05 <peter1138> well, make it now :D 18:52:14 <TrueLight> peter1138: feel free :p 18:52:21 <TrueLight> I am going to watch Lost now :) 18:52:33 <TrueLight> bbl 18:54:16 <Bjarni> is he going to watch or be lost? 18:54:42 <Bjarni> so 18:54:46 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 18:54:49 <Bjarni> what do we do now? 18:55:01 <Bjarni> I mean, I can make OSX binaries, but for windows.... 18:55:17 <TrueLight> glx: ping 18:55:29 <peter1138> lol 18:55:48 <peter1138> someone tried to put 3 transactions of 6.4 million pounds through our gateway 18:56:04 <TrueLight> peter1138: give me! 18:56:47 <peter1138> well, they all failed... 18:56:53 <Bjarni> "our gateway".... I presume it's not some OTTD gateway 18:57:16 <Bjarni> so it's not donations for OTTD 18:58:02 <Bjarni> actually I don't want that kind of money... nobody in their right minds would give it away and it would take the "non-profit" thing away from the project 18:58:17 <Eddi|zuHause> they "failed", does that mean they accidently landed in your pocket? :) 18:58:38 <hylje> lol 18:58:43 <TrueLight> Bjarni: I wouldn't mind ;) 18:58:45 <hylje> AI does funny bridges in bridgebranch 18:58:46 <Belugas> peter1138 : 2 things. it was a fraud, and your system reacted fine OR it was valid and you have a bug :) 18:58:59 <peter1138> Belugas: nah, ceiling limit, heh 18:59:25 <Belugas> Good safeguards :) 19:09:06 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 19:11:41 <Eddi|zuHause> argh... which idiot translated this... "Fifo belade verfahren benutzen" 19:12:03 <Eddi|zuHause> is that in trunk too? 19:12:41 <Bjarni> I don't know 19:12:44 <Eddi|zuHause> (this is in miniIN) 19:13:07 <Bjarni> do you want to be a translator, so you can correct strings like that when you find them? 19:13:38 <Eddi|zuHause> it's probably from one of the patches 19:13:48 <Bjarni> don't be too sure 19:14:15 <Bjarni> sometimes the trunk ends up with strings, that are worse than that one 19:14:39 <Bjarni> amazingly, some people really wants to submit strings like that o_O 19:16:39 <Bjarni> do anybody know of any railroad company, that uses some blue and white diesel locomotives to haul freight trains between Germany and Sweden? 19:20:34 <Zavior> .. what 19:21:03 <Eddi|zuHause> all locomotives i know are red... 19:21:13 <Eddi|zuHause> (or black for steam) 19:21:33 <Bjarni> ok, it might be a bit off topic, but I really wonder who owned that train, that is passing though Denmark right now 19:22:40 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause: http://www.mikkel-elling.dk/Billeder-Tog/Railion_EG_3110_-_EG_31xx_-_gods__-Ved_Forlev-270602____WEB.jpg <-- not all locomotives are red ;) 19:23:11 <Bjarni> but a blue and white diesel locomotive.... 19:23:15 <Eddi|zuHause> that may be, but i do not know them :=) 19:23:25 <Bjarni> I have absolutely no idea who owns them 19:23:37 <Eddi|zuHause> the DBSetXL has a diesel engine called "Blue Tiger" 19:23:42 <Eddi|zuHause> or something like that 19:23:51 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe it is one of those 19:26:16 <Bjarni> it could be 19:27:03 <Bjarni> then the question is who decided to use it in Denmark. AFAIK nobody in Denmark owns one of those and it was on the corridor between Germany and Sweden 19:27:10 <MiHaMiX> http://xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu/~miham/tmp/minircfull.avi 19:27:30 <MiHaMiX> Length: 27.788.540 (27M) [video/x-msvideo] 19:28:34 <Eddi|zuHause> gnah... KDE SVN gets confused by the rename of branch to branches :( 19:30:49 <Eddi|zuHause> looks like it is the additional orders patch 19:33:17 <Bjarni> MiHaMiX: I have seen one of those camera wagons in real life 19:34:21 <Bjarni> I don't fancy them except if I got a track layout where it is difficult to access all the tracks (tunnels and stuff), then it could be used to figure out where the problem is and if there is a problem at all :) 19:34:56 <Bjarni> you could also place it in a train you control and make some sort of model MS train sim 19:35:16 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: hmm :) 19:35:36 *** jonty-comp [n=jonty@88-107-53-180.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Restart"] 19:36:49 <Eddi|zuHause> MiHaMiX: what about extending WT2 to branches? 19:38:20 <MiHaMiX> Eddi|zuHause: i'm already thinking on it, but it's not quite trivial.. so.. it's postponed until milestone 1.4 or so 19:38:33 <MiHaMiX> Eddi|zuHause: next milestone is 1.1 19:39:28 *** jonty-comp [i=Jonty@88-107-53-180.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 19:39:34 <Eddi|zuHause> ok... maybe i should just send a patch for german.txt to richk... 19:40:12 <Eddi|zuHause> what is the easiest way to get a list of all missing strings? 19:40:53 <Bjarni> I forgot how to do it, but strgen can do it 19:41:06 <Bjarni> try strgen/strgen -h to see options 19:42:54 <Eddi|zuHause> that help is not quite as descriptive as it should be... 19:43:28 <glx> TrueLight: pong 19:43:40 <Eddi|zuHause> ok, that worked ;) 19:43:49 <Bjarni> glx: TrueLight is lost 19:43:53 <Bjarni> oh wait 19:44:03 <Bjarni> TrueLight is watching Lost 19:44:12 <TrueLight> glx: do you have MSVC there? 19:44:17 <glx> no only gcc 19:44:23 <TrueLight> k, then nevermind :) 19:44:24 <TrueLight> but tnx ;) 19:44:49 <Bjarni> I thought you watched TV... 19:45:17 <TrueLight> I am still watching 19:46:19 * Sacro has msvc 19:46:59 * Belugas has it to, but... at home hehehe 19:48:16 <Bjarni> http://www.oresunddirekt.dk/news.aspx?type=news&id=45913&lang=1013&year=&month= (Swedish, sorry)<--- hahaha. It says that some Danish people have become island decedents because they are moving to a certain island.... but it also mentions what area they move away from and that (not mentioned) is actually an island as well 19:48:37 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... didn't richk mention a massive economy patch? 19:48:41 <Bjarni> bah 19:48:43 <Bjarni> decedents... 19:48:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i can't seem to find that one 19:48:55 <Bjarni> dammit, that autocorrect thing 19:49:08 <Bjarni> I least I caught it when it first tried to write rednecks 19:49:27 <Bjarni> well, those people live on an island, ok ;) 19:51:30 <Bjarni> I think it's funny that those people decided to move away from the big cities to a more or less countryside with no jobs and the spelling tool decided to call them rednecks :D 19:56:06 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176114038.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:58:43 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... it would be nicer if strgen -w actually also outputs the english string 19:58:51 <Eddi|zuHause> so you don't have to look them up 20:03:57 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 20:04:43 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:10:39 *** Wolf01|AFK is now known as Wolf01 20:17:44 <Eddi|zuHause> hey, that even worked :) 20:18:23 <peter1138> hi 20:21:16 <Sacro> nywar 20:25:12 <TrueLight> burp 20:27:08 <Brianetta> WOAH! I just founf autopilot 0.something - the first one written in Expect 20:27:14 <Brianetta> #!/usr/bin/expect 20:27:14 <Brianetta> spawn ./openttd -D 20:27:14 <Brianetta> expect { 20:27:14 <Brianetta> -ex "\[NET\]" { 20:27:16 <Brianetta> send "debug_level net=0\n" 20:27:17 <Brianetta> exp_continue 20:27:20 <Brianetta> } -re "has joined the game" { 20:27:22 <Brianetta> send "say \"Welcome to the server.\n" 20:27:26 <Brianetta> exp_continue 20:27:28 <Brianetta> } 20:27:30 <Brianetta> } 20:27:32 <Brianetta> How cool is that? 20:27:37 <Brianetta> It didn't even let you type in commands 20:28:00 <Brianetta> and as soon as somebody joined the game, it greeted them - then quit! 20:28:19 <Brianetta> Ah, memories 20:28:24 <Sacro> Brianetta: sweet :) 20:28:49 <Brianetta> The next one involved putting that expect block in a while true 20:29:00 <Sacro> R1? 20:29:08 <Brianetta> R? 20:29:09 <Sacro> its like having your own personal SVN :) 20:29:19 <Sacro> Revision 20:29:19 <Brianetta> No, that was about 20 20:29:28 <Brianetta> 1 - 19 were in other languages 20:29:32 <Brianetta> principally bash 20:29:52 <Brianetta> I tried it with FIFOs and everything 20:29:57 <peter1138> heh 20:30:00 <Brianetta> Expect came to the rescue 20:30:23 <Sacro> never used it 20:30:35 <Brianetta> It's a Tcl package 20:30:51 <Brianetta> It provides an interpreter, /usr/bin/expect, but it's basically a Tcl superset 20:31:05 <Brianetta> I invoke autopilot 2.0 with Tcl, and load in Expect 20:31:19 <Brianetta> Same effect, more portable 20:31:46 <TrueLight> night all 20:31:49 *** TrueLight is now known as TL|Away 20:39:20 *** dp [n=dp@p54B2E5F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:40:47 *** egladil [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20:41:51 *** egladil [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:43:41 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181100201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:46:16 *** YoG1 [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-0-216.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 20:47:43 <Bjarni> so much for a release ASAP 20:47:55 <Bjarni> did we ever figure out what to do about windows binaries? 20:48:44 *** YoG1 [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-0-216.red.bezeqint.net] has left #openttd [] 20:51:38 <Bjarni> http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/private/freight/BTE/EC1B1421-17D8-44E9-879F-B3A866DAB9B5.jpg <-- I guess they did that paintjob just in case they want to hide the engine in the fields 20:54:18 <glx> nice lo-cow-motive :) 20:55:07 <hylje> idd 20:55:49 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-0-216.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 20:55:53 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2E74E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:55:53 *** dp is now known as dp-- 20:57:07 <peter1138> Bjarni: yeah, ignore them :) 20:59:21 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-0-216.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:59:24 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-0-216.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 20:59:31 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-0-216.red.bezeqint.net] has left #openttd [] 21:00:41 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... need a proper translation for 'roughness' 21:01:06 <Belugas> unshaved 21:01:07 <Eddi|zuHause> 'Rauhheit', while being an exact translation, sounds really unfitting 21:01:43 <Eddi|zuHause> well... in the context of terragenesis, unshaved is also unfitting ;) 21:03:48 <Belugas> hehehe 21:04:07 <Belugas> just letting out my stress ;) 21:09:00 <Bjarni> Belugas: luckily Eddi|zuHause is not a bot, otherwise he might have looked unshaved up and found a word for a man, who haven't shaved for days :P 21:09:16 <Bjarni> and used that word without any questions 21:09:20 *** ChrisM87 [n=ChrisM@p54AC5FEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:09:39 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181100201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 21:12:03 <Bjarni> it reminds me of a story about what happened during an English exam. Somebody had to translate the sentence "a man walks down the street" or something like that, but having a braindead moment, he had to look up walking and reads the first word the dictionary says, so the sentence ended up being "a man go down a street" 21:15:01 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:21:18 <peter1138> pdpc supporter 21:21:21 <peter1138> hurr hurr 21:23:07 <Sacro> wtf is gnustep 21:24:11 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B760EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:26:35 <peter1138> rubbish 21:29:18 <Sacro> i wanna play oolite :( 21:38:14 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 21:40:36 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACCA1028.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 21:43:39 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B75208.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:46:53 <peter1138> oolite? 21:47:02 <Sacro> yep 21:47:03 *** kbrooks [n=kbrooks@unaffiliated/kbrooks] has joined #openttd 21:47:06 <peter1138> wosat? 21:47:16 <Sacro> elite, open source 21:47:56 <hylje> whats elite 21:48:12 <Sacro> :O SACROLIDGE 21:49:09 <kbrooks> any list of cheating tricks (not ctrl+alt+c) that anyone could easily do 21:49:38 <Born_Acorn> Sacrolidge is like Sacrylij! But not! 21:49:55 <kbrooks> trivially, without any previous knowledge of how <things> function 21:50:19 <kbrooks> i'm just curious 21:50:45 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: eh? 21:50:49 <hylje> eh. 21:50:56 <kbrooks> ANSWER? 21:51:10 <Sacro> eh? 21:51:14 <kbrooks> what? 21:51:20 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 21:52:27 <Wolf01> 'night all 21:52:31 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host86-238.pool870.interbusiness.it] has quit ["e ricordate, per la legge di avogadro non esiste cazzo quadro"] 21:52:53 <Born_Acorn> Who? 21:54:23 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B60E91.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 21:56:00 *** jonty-comp [i=Jonty@88-107-53-180.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:56:23 <kbrooks> question 21:56:41 <kbrooks> whast is industry stealing 21:56:42 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691920121.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:59:42 <peter1138> usually a complaint of players who don't like competition 22:01:02 <kbrooks> lol 22:01:48 <Zavior> Thats why you buy 10x10 squares around the industrY! 22:01:50 <Zavior> ;BD 22:02:14 <hylje> thats lame 22:02:26 <hylje> then the other player buys a airport there 22:03:45 <Belugas> time to go home, at last :) 22:03:48 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 22:04:02 <Belugas_Gone> have a nice weekend all 22:04:43 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691920121.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 22:07:49 <kbrooks> Please join the AllWelcome server. Everyone is welcome! 22:08:02 <kbrooks> No rules, at least for now 22:09:34 <Sacro> no rules? 22:09:49 <kbrooks> well, there might have to be some :-) 22:10:13 <kbrooks> anticompetition tatics - don't! 22:10:15 <Sacro> :( awww 22:10:23 <Sacro> i like being evil 22:10:42 <kbrooks> well, im fine, im the only player there 22:10:46 <GoneWacko> Play evil genius a lot do you 22:10:50 <kbrooks> others wont 22:11:00 <kbrooks> Sacro: join in? 22:11:19 <kbrooks> ip.. 22:11:30 <kbrooks> 24.235.163.98 22:11:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... is it me or is the configuration of PBS auto placement gone? 22:12:35 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:12:47 <kbrooks> Sacro: please join in :'( 22:13:06 <kbrooks> im bored, dont wanna play by myself 22:14:17 <kbrooks> :( 22:14:21 <hylje> what game 22:14:25 <hylje> trunk? 22:14:38 <Sacro> hylje: openttd i belive 22:14:39 <kbrooks> 0.4.7 22:14:41 <kbrooks> :-) 22:15:29 <kbrooks> brb. i'll use a dedicated server 22:15:34 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:17:59 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACCA1028.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 22:19:13 *** ammler [n=marcel@73.100.202.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 22:19:22 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-175-80.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:19:57 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-175-80.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:20:26 <kbrooks> Does anyone want to play with me? 22:21:13 <Sacro> :O 22:21:34 * Sacro is worried 22:21:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... i don't understand some things... what is the difference between improved loading and fifo loading? 22:21:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> and why have two? 22:22:18 <kbrooks> Sacro: what? 22:22:44 <Sacro> [23:20] <kbrooks> Does anyone want to play with me? 22:22:57 <kbrooks> Sacro: i hate playing by myself :( 22:23:15 <Sacro> NOOOOOOOOOOOO :| 22:23:21 <kbrooks> heh 22:24:14 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-201-101.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:24:49 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691920121.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:27:23 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 22:27:30 <MeusH> hello! 22:27:49 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691920121.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 22:28:53 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-175-80.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:29:52 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-175-80.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:31:35 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387D2AA.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 22:34:06 <Sacro> hmm, anyone up to date with laptop processors, im curious as to the difference between the AMD Turion and the Intel Centrino Core Duo 22:34:54 <Bjarni> I don't know the AMD one 22:35:09 <Sacro> hmm, and the AMD64 X2 22:35:21 <tank_> afaik the intels are still better if you think about uptime 22:35:44 <tank_> and i think most amd-notebooks are cheap and don't have quality 22:36:06 <tank_> but there should be enough reviews online which compare amd and intel notebooks 22:36:12 <Bjarni> AFAIK the intels should be the best when you consider power usage (battery life) 22:36:24 <Bjarni> yeah 22:36:27 <Bjarni> ask google 22:36:58 <Sacro> tank_: i cant find any comparisons 22:37:18 <Bjarni> do you really want us to do it for you? 22:37:52 <MeusH> AMDs are good and nice as long as it isn't too hot 22:38:05 <MeusH> but that's about typical processors, not the laptop ones 22:38:19 <MeusH> I'm happy with my AMD, but again, I don't have a laptop 22:38:22 <Sacro> MeusH: my laptop has a desktop p4 2.4GHz CPU, it runs around 65-70 22:38:33 <MeusH> however, recently Intel started making better and cheaper procs 22:39:09 <MeusH> my comp has 3 years, and 3 years ago Intel was expensive and AMD was just making good stuff 22:39:10 *** stavrosg [n=stavrosg@athedsl-08476.otenet.gr] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:39:13 <MeusH> I heard now it changed 22:40:02 <Sacro> i dont think Intel do 64 bit yet 22:41:55 <Bjarni> a proper 32 bit CPU can run just as fast as a 64 bit one. The bit size is more a memory allocation thing than a speed thing 22:42:15 <Bjarni> a G5 don't gain speed by running in 64 bit mode compared to 32 bit mode 22:43:13 <Bjarni> however some x86 do have some register limitations, that slowed them down and that showed 64 bit CPUs to be faster 22:43:45 <Sacro> Bjarni: but i dont want to run out of numbers... 22:44:04 <Bjarni> you want more than 4 Gb RAM in a notebook? 22:45:11 <Sacro> Bjarni: err...it'd be nifty 22:45:19 <Sacro> i could install Linux to ram 22:46:11 <MeusH> well you can get the newest 750 gig Seagate and make it a virtual ram... 22:46:13 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 22:46:46 <Bjarni> that would need a 64 bit CPU though 22:46:57 <Bjarni> hmm 22:47:01 <Sacro> MeusH: 750GB swap? 22:47:48 <MeusH> yes :P 22:48:13 <MeusH> it's worth! 22:48:18 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 22:48:44 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387CDB5.versanet.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:48:51 <MeusH> you will be able to play 1048576x524288 game of OpenTTD 22:48:55 <Sacro> this laptop is lagging, running just GNOME, X-Chat, Terminal compiling OpenTTD, Audacios, and firefox 22:49:14 <Sacro> MeusH: but i'd need a wider touchpad to scroll 22:49:37 <MeusH> I don't like touchpad 22:49:44 <MeusH> I'd buy a mouse 22:49:51 <MeusH> the problem are USB slots 22:50:16 <MeusH> if you want a mouse, printer, webcam and teacup heater 22:50:20 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387D2AA.versanet.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:51:00 <Sacro> MeusH: i have a usb mouse currently, i dont print, i dont like being watched, and it runs at 70 degrees 22:51:25 <MeusH> good boy :) 22:52:08 <MeusH> is it possible to connect laptop to some kind of other display device? 22:52:17 <MeusH> like using the eurojack? 22:52:32 <Sacro> mine has VGA out, and RCA 22:52:38 <MeusH> I thought about TV, PC screen, or a wall display? 22:52:51 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 22:53:58 <Sacro> all 3 22:54:49 <Sacro> hmm, AMD TurionX2 is better for games 22:55:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> '{BLACK}Random Seed: {WHITE}{NUM}' <- somone should probably slap RichK for that... 22:56:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> i'd say that line is definitely a trunk showstopper ;) 22:57:41 <MeusH> why? 22:57:43 <MeusH> {SILVER}Inauguration: {WHITE}{NUM} 22:57:55 <MeusH> this one comes from english.txt 22:57:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's the spaces! 22:58:21 <MeusH> ohh I see 22:58:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> it does alignment with spaces... with possibly variable fonts in the future that is definitely a bad idea 22:59:21 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACCA1028.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 23:00:03 <Bjarni> yeah 23:00:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> also, it is a nightmare when translated strings do not have the same length 23:00:44 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 23:00:52 <Bjarni> most often translated strings got different lengths 23:01:17 <Bjarni> except if it is something simple "{BLACK}Bus" 23:01:34 <Bjarni> +like 23:01:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> which is exactly my point :p 23:02:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... what exactly is noise seed? 23:02:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> where is that used? 23:02:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> probably scengen 23:03:19 <Sacro> TGP 23:03:30 <Bjarni> noise seed... sounds like a random seed to generate random background sounds :p 23:04:15 <MeusH> maybye it creates terrain roughness? 23:04:27 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:04:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... no... really... where is that used? 23:04:38 <Sacro> MeusH gets a point 23:06:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> but i see no occurence of that string ingame... 23:06:54 <MeusH> hail debug language 23:06:59 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: http://ottd.rkhosting.co.uk/screenshot6.png <-- here 23:07:03 <MeusH> (and it's creator, aka /me) 23:07:18 * Sacro ? 23:07:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> "its" 23:07:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> not "it's" 23:07:29 <MeusH> sorry 23:07:42 <MeusH> I usually put ' in inproper places 23:08:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> glx: that is random seed, not noise seed 23:08:32 <glx> it's the same 23:11:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> ah... found it 23:11:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's the caption of the input window, when you click on the random seed 23:11:58 <glx> yes 23:13:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> the naming is a little inconsistent 23:14:10 <glx> but I don't see why he didn't used 2 strings for '{BLACK}Random Seed: {WHITE}{NUM}' 23:14:59 <MeusH> do you know how many strings do we have to display nothing? 23:16:11 <glx> he could use STR_7010 ({WHITE}{NUM}) 23:17:01 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-175-80.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:17:29 <glx> MeusH: what do you mean by "display nothing" ? 23:17:42 <MeusH> empty strings 23:17:44 <MeusH> spaces 23:17:54 <MeusH> nothing visible 23:22:15 <glx> hmm 13 empty strings 23:24:40 <MeusH> TTD legacy 23:25:02 <MeusH> and how many Chinese satelites are watching you right now? 23:25:04 <MeusH> also 13 23:25:25 <[Shaman]> how many chinese spies are hidden under your chair right now? 23:25:26 <[Shaman]> also 13 23:25:28 <MeusH> how many Pharaohs were not archipriests? 23:25:28 <MeusH> 13 23:26:08 <MeusH> how many trucks went through road 13 at 13 o'clock? 23:26:08 <MeusH> 13 23:26:55 <Born_Acorn> How many times did they say 13? 23:26:57 <Born_Acorn> 11. 23:27:56 <MeusH> orly? 23:27:56 <MeusH> 7 23:28:07 <MeusH> and 13 is 7*2-1 23:28:19 <MeusH> 2+1 is 3 23:28:24 <MeusH> 10+2+1 is 13 23:28:33 <MeusH> 13/1=13 23:28:37 <MeusH> 13/13=1 23:28:47 <MeusH> 13*13=169 23:31:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> and 14*14 is 196, so what? 23:35:39 <MeusH> nothing 23:35:47 <MeusH> gn 23:35:53 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:37:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... apparently... 'rauh' has changed into 'rau' with the new spelling... 23:39:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> if richk comes along, point him to www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/german.miniin.diff 23:44:43 <Bjarni> I'm sure we will forget to mention that to him :P 23:50:42 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 23:51:35 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd