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Log for #openttd on 28th July 2006:
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03:16:31  <BurningFeetMan> http://code.google.com/hosting/
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09:15:37  <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
09:15:37  <Bjarni> !logs
09:17:43  <Bjarni> !seen DarkSSH
09:17:56  <Bjarni> I guess that script is not running
09:20:23  <peter1138> Last Seen: 4 weeks 1 day (10h 33m 32s) ago
09:20:24  <tank_> mh.. nothing in my backlog
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09:26:18  <Bjarni> yeah
09:26:38  <Bjarni> either he got some great holiday or something happened
09:27:19  <Bjarni> actually I'm a bit worried because one of the last things he said was how he planned to get online during his holiday
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09:31:18  <Bjarni> hmm
09:31:39  <Bjarni> according to the log, he went to Hungary, but he didn't mention when he planned to be back
09:31:51  <Bjarni> only that he planned to be online during his vacation
09:32:12  <blathijs> Bjarni: perhaps his internet connection there broke or something
09:32:18  <Bjarni> yeah
09:32:37  <Bjarni> or somebody decided that he should not be able to get access without paying
09:33:24  <Bjarni> either way, we should consider how to make a win binary for 0.4.8-RC2 without him
09:33:32  <Bjarni> one thing is for sure: I can't make it
09:34:42  <peter1138> i bet you could if you tried
09:34:43  * blathijs neither
09:34:55  <peter1138> after all, the nightly build system makes windows binaries...
09:35:14  <Bjarni> peter1138: well... yes, but that would take a whole lot of time
09:35:17  <blathijs> but not with installer and stuff like that
09:35:34  <Bjarni> yeah, I don't have a clue to how the installer works
09:36:12  <Bjarni> it's way more complex than the OSX installer, both to maintain and to use (now that's windows for you)
09:47:20  <peter1138> oh, i guess
09:47:22  <peter1138> what installer?
09:47:25  <peter1138> i've never seen it, heh
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13:00:10  <Belugas> hello
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16:43:57  <Wolf01> yo
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17:29:19  <lws1984> i have a question..
17:29:32  <lws1984> how do you run 0.4.8 on Mac OS X in dedicated server mode
17:29:59  <kjetil> *poke Bjarni * He ought to know
17:30:42  <lws1984> *poke* Bjarni
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17:31:23  <glx> openttd -D should work on OSX
17:31:37  <lws1984> hmm, as a terminal prompt..?
17:31:40  * lws1984 tries it
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17:32:49  <lws1984> hmm, it keeps saying "OpenTTD: command not found"
17:33:15  <kjetil> lowercase
17:33:36  <lws1984> same problem
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17:34:03  <glx> are you in the right dir?
17:34:07  <lws1984> yes
17:34:12  <glx> ./openttd -D then
17:34:13  <Kjetil> ./openttd -D
17:34:36  <lws1984> still not working
17:34:45  <lws1984> i'm in bash shell, would that make a diffrence
17:34:52  <Kjetil> What does it say now ?
17:35:00  <lws1984> -bash: ./openttd: No such file or directory
17:35:12  <Kjetil> "whereis openttd"
17:35:45  <lws1984> i just got another prompt, no message or anything
17:36:23  <Kjetil> ok
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17:47:38  <lws1984> Bjarni? someone?
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18:12:12  <Wolf01> how i can handle BEGIN_TILE_LOOP(tile_cur, w + 2, h + 2, tile - TileDiffXY(1, 1)) to extend the join area instead of "adjacent"?
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19:04:48  <Bjarni> oh, I got highlighted :D
19:04:52  <Bjarni> somebody wants me
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19:05:43  <Bjarni> lws1984: due to the path thing to get the bundle to work, you need to type "OpenTTD.app/Contents/MacOS/openttd -D"
19:05:59  <Bjarni> eventually I will have found a simpler solution, but this will have to do for a while longer
19:06:16  <lws1984> ooh
19:06:17  <lws1984> thanks
19:06:20  <Wolf01> Bjarni can you help me?
19:06:26  <Wolf01> how i can handle BEGIN_TILE_LOOP(tile_cur, w + 2, h + 2, tile - TileDiffXY(1, 1)) to extend the join area instead of "adjacent"?
19:06:37  <glx> Bjarni: why not say that in readme ?
19:07:30  <Bjarni> glx: because it's not added. The readme was written before the option of getting the dedicated server and then nobody added it
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19:09:42  <Bjarni> Wolf01: err... good question
19:10:33  <Wolf01> i thought you hid :P
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19:14:06  <Bjarni> actually I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that question
19:16:15  <Wolf01> i have to extend the join area for stations
19:16:39  <Wolf01> to be able to join stations in the catchement area and not adjacent only
19:18:12  <Bjarni> ahh, that patch
19:18:17  <Bjarni> hmm
19:18:42  <Bjarni> I think the key to this is the +2
19:19:01  <Bjarni> and TileDiffXY(1, 1)
19:19:09  <Bjarni> yeah, now I see how it works
19:19:46  <Bjarni> basically it makes a 3x3 area and then the top left of it is the tile - (1,1), so the tile in question is in the centre
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19:20:44  <Wolf01> i changed both begin and end tile loops to: (tile_cur, w + 2+4, h + 2+4, tile - TileDiffXY(1+4, 1+4))
19:20:53  <Bjarni> so if you want to make connect to stations across the road, you have to make it a 5x5 area, which would be +4 (think of w and h as 1 and add the number to get the right size) and tile - TileDiffXY(2, 2)
19:21:23  <Wolf01> uhm
19:22:31  <Bjarni> that would make it a 7x7 tile, but you moved the centre of it 5 tiles away instead of 3, so basically you did the right thing, but you loop though the wrong tiles. Your offset is wrong
19:23:57  <Bjarni> try to draw it on a piece of paper and you will see
19:24:59  <Wolf01> i understood what you mean
19:26:02  <Wolf01> some time ago i wrote a function to get the center of matrix with odd length sides
19:26:42  <Bjarni> I can't say that I can remember that one
19:26:57  <Wolf01> you can't
19:27:09  <Wolf01> i used it for a little program
19:28:32  <Bjarni> it's a simple task. Simple enough to allow me to do it in my head
19:29:11  <Bjarni> but it would be nice if we added a define in map.h to do it, which calls BEGIN_TILE_LOOP
19:29:19  <Bjarni> to make the code more readable
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19:36:09  <Wolf01> BEGIN_TILE_LOOP(tile_cur, w + 1+_patches.station_spread*2, h + 1+_patches.station_spread*2, tile - TileDiffXY(1+_patches.station_spread, 1+_patches.station_spread))
19:36:14  <Bjarni>  // size is the number of tiles to go away from the centre
19:36:14  <Bjarni> #define BEGIN_TILE_LOOP_SQUARE(var, size, tile) BEGIN_TILE_LOOP(tile, 1 + (2 * size), (2 * size), tile - TileDiffXY(size, size))
19:36:14  <Bjarni> #define END_TILE_LOOP_SQUARE(var, size, tile) END_TILE_LOOP(tile, 1 + (2 * size), (2 * size), tile - TileDiffXY(size, size))
19:36:19  <Bjarni> I wonder if that will do it
19:38:12  <Bjarni> BEGIN_TILE_LOOP(tile_cur, w + _patches.station_spread*2, h + _patches.station_spread*2, tile - TileDiffXY(_patches.station_spread, _patches.station_spread)) <-- better if _patches.station_spread is an uint, that's never 0
19:38:20  <Sacro> mmmmmm, danish bacon
19:38:32  <Bjarni> lol
19:38:50  <Bjarni> Sacro: this time you really made a comment, that fits well with the topic :P
19:38:52  <glx> last args of BEGIN_TILE_LOOP is start tile
19:39:30  <Sacro> Bjarni: well, actually, its was just what ive eate
19:39:31  <Sacro> n
19:39:48  <Wolf01> i get an error: "adjoins more than one..."
19:40:04  <Bjarni> hehe
19:40:22  <peter1138> Bjarni: a uint is never 0? ;p
19:40:26  <Wolf01> but i'm trying far away from other stations
19:40:41  <Bjarni> Sacro: interesting... I also tried to eat Danish bacon... I even tried it more than once :)
19:40:53  <Bjarni> Wolf01: then you got a bug
19:40:54  <Wolf01> it should give that error when there are more than one station on the area
19:41:02  <Bjarni> yeah
19:41:27  <Bjarni> peter1138: I meant never 0 as in the control logics should prevent assigning 0 to that var ;)
19:41:49  <peter1138> ah
19:42:27  <Bjarni> Wolf01: try to build a station on a map with no stations at all and see what happens
19:42:48  <Bjarni> if it still fails, it's not the offset, that's wrong, but something else
19:42:58  <Wolf01> give assert
19:43:28  <Wolf01> and if i ignore, appear the same error popup
19:43:54  <Bjarni> well, then you got something to work on
19:44:24  <Wolf01> station_spread shouldn't be 0
19:44:37  <Wolf01> with 0 you can't receive goods
19:45:04  <Bjarni> hmm
19:45:07  <Wolf01> uhm, no, i used the wrong variable i think
19:45:12  <Bjarni> hehe
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19:45:29  <Wolf01> with 0 you can't build stations
19:46:28  <Bjarni> this would be interesting. Try to use the max speed of the last vehicle when calculating catchment area of a station... that would make a nice bug :D
19:46:48  <Bjarni> and people would for some reason use very fast vehicles
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19:46:57  <Bjarni> crap
19:47:10  <Bjarni> we lost the l0gics in this channel
19:47:32  <Sacro> ooh narsty
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19:48:06  <Wolf01> the variable for catchement is max_rad, isn't?
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20:03:10  * SpComb presses the pwr btn
20:03:16  <kbrooks> lol
20:03:40  * pwr 's eyes go blank.
20:03:43  * kbrooks presses Sacro's OFFbutton
20:04:13  <kbrooks> pwr: you're ... *breaks off as he watches pwr die*
20:05:40  <Sacro> kbrooks: please dont...this laptop takes 30 mins to turn on
20:06:02  <kbrooks> i was teasing, Sacro.
20:07:18  <Sacro> hmm
20:07:29  <Sacro> sorry, im having a bad day
20:12:32  <smeding> .
20:13:14  <Sacro> smeding: bash: .: filename argument required
20:13:15  <Sacro> .: usage: . filename [arguments]
20:13:35  <smeding> what are you on about
20:13:43  <smeding> oh
20:13:48  <Sacro> :)
20:13:50  <smeding> didn't know '.' was a bash command :p
20:13:59  <kbrooks> it is.
20:14:00  <Sacro> yes, its the same as souce
20:14:03  <kbrooks> . == source
20:14:18  <smeding> heh
20:15:45  <SpComb> terom@zapotek:~$ apropos fuck
20:15:45  <SpComb> fuck: nothing appropriate.
20:16:32  <kbrooks> uh?
20:16:36  <kbrooks> no comment.
20:17:00  <smeding> SpComb: omg olet suomalainen.
20:17:08  <smeding> back to English though, my Finnish sucks \o/
20:17:08  <SpComb> tottakai
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20:17:32  * SpComb finds the above ^ to be somewhat amusing
20:18:10  <smeding> what?
20:19:15  <kbrooks> why?
20:19:17  <kbrooks> how?
20:19:19  <kbrooks> when?
20:19:22  <kbrooks> where?
20:19:24  <kbrooks> who?
20:19:27  <kbrooks> lol
20:19:41  <Sacro> owl!
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20:44:58  <Wolf01> how i can remove the checkout from a folder/file with tortoiseSVN?
20:45:33  <Rubidium> in what sense?
20:46:13  <Rubidium> or rather: with which intentions?
20:46:23  <Wolf01> i downloaded a zip file with some grf and those grf have the check of SVN
20:46:32  <Wolf01> i want to remove it
20:46:43  <Rubidium> there is a .svn directory (probably hidden) which you can remove.
20:46:53  <Wolf01> ah, ok
20:46:58  <Bjarni> that's not the right way to solve that issue
20:47:05  <Bjarni> there is a remove command somewhere
20:47:09  <Rubidium> If the directory has subdirectories, you need to do that in the subdirectories too
20:47:27  <Bjarni> rtfm
20:47:43  <Bjarni> I have no idea. I only use the real svn client and that one is CLI only
20:48:09  <Wolf01> i removed the .svn folder and the checks disappeared
20:48:36  <SpComb> kekekekeke... Spontaneously
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20:48:53  <Wolf359> like that?
20:49:24  <Born_Acorn> grr. Silly beeps made me leave SimCity 4
20:49:30  * Born_Acorn throws rocks at lilo
20:49:35  <Wolf359> Born_Acorn: beep
20:49:39  <Wolf359> Born_Acorn: beep
20:49:40  <Wolf359> Born_Acorn: beep
20:49:57  <Born_Acorn> Highlighting doesn't beep. Just /msgs
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21:37:05  <stewis> hi all
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21:51:10  <CIA-5> belugas * r5626 /trunk/ (6 files):
21:51:10  <CIA-5> CodeChange : Remove the global _make_screenshot and implement a more flexible mechanism
21:51:10  <CIA-5> Simplification of the handling of the main_gui menus,
21:51:10  <CIA-5> Removal of repetitions and Hiding the internals of screenshots.
21:51:10  <CIA-5> Thanks to glx, Rubidium and Truelight for pointers
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21:58:29  <Belugas_Gone> oups...
22:01:47  <CIA-5> belugas * r5627 /trunk/screenshot.c: Fix (r5626) : Forgot to rename one instance make_screenshot to current_screenshot_type
22:02:12  <Belugas_Gone> now i';m really gone
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22:25:21  <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: did you get this station thing right? i found this old patch of me lying around... www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/station.patch
22:26:21  <Eddi|zuHause> is that lying or lieing? i never get this thing right...
22:26:25  <Wolf01> yes i already done it
22:28:11  <Eddi|zuHause> revision 4413... how long ago is that?
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22:29:16  <Vornicus> Frooooooooooom Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace!
22:30:05  <coppercore> amsg?
22:30:10  <Vornicus> No.
22:30:19  <Vornicus> Well, not really.
22:30:38  <Vornicus> I said it here and then decided that the other freenode game channels i am in would also appreciate it.
22:31:48  <Vornicus> :P
22:33:15  <coppercore> hehe
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22:39:21  <Wolf01> 'night all
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22:47:56  <Sacro> why do i not get lilo messages in X-Chat?
22:48:15  <lws1984> you mean you actually want to GET lilo's messages?
22:48:26  <coppercore> lol i get bored and leave +w
22:48:26  <Sacro> well...mayge
22:48:29  <Sacro> *maybe
22:50:12  * Sacro wants sex :(
22:50:31  <lws1984> well, check your *ahem* palm pilot
22:51:16  <coppercore> no comment
22:51:54  <lws1984> :p
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22:53:17  <Sacro> none of my skype girls are online :(
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23:35:27  <Born_Acorn> (23:51:03) * Sacro wants sex :(
23:35:32  <Born_Acorn> lilo is a dood.
23:35:43  <Born_Acorn> D:
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23:36:22  <lws1984> Corn_Baron!
23:39:33  <Sacro> aww :(
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