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00:01:28 <Sacro> Znuff: check out that branch, it has it already 00:01:46 <Znuff> I'm on windows... no svn client, no compiler tools =/ 00:01:55 <Sacro> Znuff: cygwin 00:01:57 <Sacro> mingw 00:02:00 <Znuff> eww 00:02:01 <Sacro> tortoise svn 00:02:05 <Sacro> visual studio 00:02:31 <Znuff> visual studio -> not free 00:02:45 <Znuff> when will it be in mainstream? 00:02:58 <Sacro> visual studio express is free 00:03:06 <Sacro> mainstream? 00:03:09 <Sacro> you mean trunk? 00:03:14 <Sacro> when its done i assume 00:08:39 <Znuff> if it's not done, I don't need it :> 00:15:01 <Znuff> uhm, why do I get "object in the way" and I can't demolish that object? 00:15:07 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has quit [Quit: blackis] 00:20:16 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-203-149.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:20:38 *** Ammler_ [~Ammler@118-190.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 00:23:21 <GrimRC> hehe http://darkmonkey.org.uk/4/Main/497/ 00:25:12 *** Ammler [~Ammler@118-190.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:27:13 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has quit [] 00:28:21 *** YogSothoth [~john@lns-bzn-27-82-248-44-102.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 00:32:14 *** Ben [~Ben_Robbi@82.153.142.99] has quit [] 00:33:50 <Znuff> uh, you can't remove your statue!? 00:49:28 <Znuff> Suggestion: a confirmation button for "send to hangars/depot etc." 01:16:03 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has joined #openttd 01:16:19 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 01:29:56 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has quit [] 01:30:20 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B842AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:32:50 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [Quit: RichK67] 01:33:38 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81D2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:33:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 01:37:43 <Znuff> why didn't my game end in 2051 if I specified that?! 01:38:48 <glx> the game ends in 2051 (display your score), but you can continue to play if you want 01:39:18 <Znuff> oh 01:39:24 <Znuff> and now what? :) 01:39:29 <Znuff> I can just play like this for ages? 01:39:37 <Znuff> untill I reach 9999? 01:40:13 <glx> the game will loop at 2090 in 0.4.8, and 5000000 in nightlies 01:43:00 <Znuff> do hovercrafts go on land too? 01:43:26 <glx> no they are boats 01:43:37 <Znuff> but they're hovercrafts! 01:45:19 <Znuff> and you can't even refit them =/ 01:45:42 <Znuff> glx, so... does new stuff appear anymore after 2051? 01:46:08 <glx> no new vehicles after 2051 01:47:05 <Znuff> geez, no more fun :( 01:49:39 <Znuff> guess it's time to save and probably go to sleep 01:49:43 <Znuff> thanks guys! 01:51:15 *** Znuff [bogdan@home01011.mangalia.astral.ro] has left #openttd [Leaving] 01:55:22 <GrimRC> oh don't go! 01:57:28 *** GrimRC [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: cya] 02:04:37 *** Ammler_ [~Ammler@118-190.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:41:25 *** Nigel [~nigel@202-154-145-18.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:49:46 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:51:59 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: 2wks 4days] 02:56:13 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:16:13 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 03:46:41 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:47:17 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@p54B37A56.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^zZz] 04:15:48 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Life. 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08:14:34 <Darkvater> morning @all 08:16:35 <peter1138> yeah 08:16:41 <peter1138> not really 08:16:44 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 08:16:58 <peter1138> just all these "i have sdl installed but configure doesn't detect it" "problems" 08:17:47 <peter1138> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/347 < still not fixed? o_O 08:18:23 <Darkvater> hmm... didn't KUDr fix this ages ago? 08:18:33 <peter1138> i thought so 08:25:19 *** Progman [~progman@p5091CDAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:25:20 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 08:25:28 <Darkvater> hmm, or maybe that was 'vehicles plan routes through busstops' 08:25:49 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 08:29:23 <Darkvater> I think if (GetAnyRoadTrackBits(tile) != 0) { << town_cmd.c:796 is at fault here 08:30:46 <Darkvater> peter1138: hehe, your commit ;p 08:30:56 <Darkvater> (that fixed the depot thingie) 08:31:05 <peter1138> hmm? 08:31:30 <Darkvater> r5798 08:32:11 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:32:13 <peter1138> years ago ;p 08:32:30 <Darkvater> he, it seems KUDr did indeed fix it in r5062 and you unfixed it 08:32:37 <Darkvater> in r5798 08:32:58 <peter1138> ah 08:33:13 <peter1138> no, the test was incomplete 08:33:21 <peter1138> i broke it by making it incomplete the other way 08:33:25 <peter1138> hmm 08:33:37 <peter1138> but based on the comments ;p 08:33:41 <Darkvater> :) 08:33:51 <peter1138> it does what it says :) 08:33:53 <Darkvater> you need something like IsTileType(tile, MP_STATION) /me thinks 08:33:54 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:33:56 <peter1138> yeah 08:33:56 *** UserError [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:46 <Darkvater> peter1138: can you add a small comment to the function while you are there? 08:34:58 <Darkvater> peter1138: eg that it returns 0 in the case of a depot or station(road) 08:37:42 *** Mucht|zZz [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] 08:38:33 *** UE [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 08:38:36 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387EBC8.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:38:46 * Darkvater needs some breakfast 08:41:22 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:41:46 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 08:41:57 *** UserError [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:43:20 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:48:20 *** UE [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: 2wks 3days] 08:49:59 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 08:52:54 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [] 08:55:22 <Tron_> Darkvater: grr, the real problem is that somebody made GetTileTrackStatus() return something != 0 for road stops and depots again 08:55:22 *** jonty-comp [Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:55:30 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 08:56:04 <peter1138> yup 08:56:46 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 08:56:58 <Tron_> it needs special casing in the pathfinder anyway (you can't drive through them) 08:57:12 <Tron_> so a trackstatus of 0 is perfectly fine for the pathfinder 08:57:23 <Tron_> it has handle a special case anyway 08:57:39 <Tron_> but if the result is != 0 everything else which uses GetTileTrackStatus breaks 08:58:06 <Tron_> i fixed this once 08:58:16 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [] 08:58:17 <Tron_> somebody reverted this 08:58:22 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 09:01:12 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 09:02:05 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 09:02:08 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [] 09:04:57 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC7734.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:05:22 <Darkvater> KUDr_wrk: r4419. Can it return 0 for depots and road stops? 09:05:27 <Darkvater> Tron: that was YAPF 09:06:05 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 09:06:06 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:06:28 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 09:06:45 <Tron> Darkvater: well, it must handle it anyway in some kind of way. all GetTileTrackStatus tells is "can be passed in X direction" for example 09:06:58 <Tron> but the pathfinder still has to find out from which side it can enter 09:07:16 <Tron> there _must_ be a special case in yapf already 09:07:34 <Tron> otherwise road vehicles would try to enter stations from the back all the time 09:08:14 <Darkvater> so GetTileTrackStatus_Road should return 0 for depot? 09:08:41 <Tron> maybe yapf relies on it returning something != 0, but this should be easily fixable 09:08:59 <Tron> as i said: it must handle stations/depots in a special way anyway 09:09:08 <Darkvater> well, it's best to sync this with KUDr as he knows best 09:09:12 <Darkvater> he's probably lurking around ;) 09:09:31 <Tron> check what yapf 09:09:41 <Tron> i'm digging in wine source atm 09:09:53 <Darkvater> not working again? :) 09:10:36 <Tron> a local patch of mine doesn't apply anymore 09:12:17 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 09:14:58 <Darkvater> brrr, yapf is a mistery ;o, /me is gonna pick some apples 09:16:14 *** qb [~qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 09:18:54 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 09:19:18 <Darkvater> hmm, have an idea, gonna check out in a few 09:19:56 <qb> hi Darkvater 09:20:08 <Darkvater> oi 09:20:25 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:22:56 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3DFF1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:28:49 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3E621.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:29:33 *** AsterixMG [~chatzilla@p5081BEF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:29:37 <AsterixMG> hi @all 09:31:30 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:37:38 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]] 09:38:07 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387EBC8.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:38:55 *** Hagbard_ [~hagbardde@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 09:39:06 *** TrueLight [~truelight@s559112c3.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:39:22 <TrueLight> HI all! Most sites on *.openttd.org will be done in a minute or 2, for some seconds, as the system is upgrading 09:39:26 <TrueLight> just so you know ;) 09:40:54 *** Hagbard_ [~hagbardde@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 09:41:04 <qb> hi Trenskow 09:41:06 <qb> oeps 09:41:08 <qb> hi TrueLight 09:41:21 <TrueLight> hehe 09:41:22 <Trenskow> hehe ... hello 09:41:31 <qb> different irc client, always a problem 09:42:36 *** Hagbarddenstore [~storatyke@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 09:44:11 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 09:45:37 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387EBC8.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:47:51 <TrueLight> Okay, all done. 09:48:07 <peter1138> hmm 09:48:09 <TrueLight> In the next 48 hours there will be multiple DNS updates for openttd.org domains, but this nobody should notice :) 09:48:11 <TrueLight> Bye all! 09:48:13 *** TrueLight [~truelight@s559112c3.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [] 09:48:44 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53588af9.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:48:47 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 09:48:51 <peter1138> mr bjarni 09:49:13 <Bjarni> hi mr peter 09:52:04 <Wolf01> ottd will run with 4mb ram? 09:53:31 *** Hagbarddenstore [~storatyke@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 09:53:41 <Tron_> hardly 09:53:44 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 09:54:21 <Tron> what are you trying to run ottd on? 09:54:30 <Wolf01> dslinux :P 09:55:24 <Wolf01> but i need to recompile it with sdl, libpng and other things 09:55:35 <Tron> what's dslinux? 09:56:01 <Wolf01> this: http://www.dslinux.org/wiki/Main_Page 09:56:03 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 09:56:30 <Tron> oh my 09:57:02 <Tron> well, you can save about one megabyte if you rewrite the spritecache and put all the sprites into the ROM 09:57:02 <Wolf01> eheh 09:58:27 <Wolf01> maybe it swaps the ram into the sd card 09:59:02 <Wolf01> s/it swaps/it may swap 09:59:09 <Tron> somebody has to redo const correctness 101 ... 10:01:51 *** JohnUK89 [~John@ACD18D9E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 10:02:12 <JohnUK89> Ello all :) 10:03:41 <Wolf01> lo john 10:03:43 <Tron> Darkvater: does ottd still compile on VS6? 10:04:05 <JohnUK89> Wolf01: ello o/ 10:04:58 <qb> didn't the YAPF stuff break on VS6? 10:05:34 <Tron> that's exactly what i'm wondering, because here is a workaround for a VS6 bug in YAPF 10:06:34 <qb> I could be wrong, been out-of-the-running for a long long time 10:07:17 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:07:56 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 10:07:56 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 10:08:12 <Wolf01> i'm wondering why placing semaphores in steam era is not automatic as in ttdpatch 10:08:12 <JohnUK89> wb Belugas_Gone :) 10:09:09 <JohnUK89> bbs 10:09:54 <Wolf01> i tried to look for the function to add something like "date < elrail introduction ? place semaphores : place lights" 10:10:24 <Wolf01> but that function is complicate 10:11:42 <Tron> what's complicated? 10:11:52 <Tron> all you have to change is rail_cmd.c:644 10:11:53 <Wolf01> wait 10:12:22 <Wolf01> this: i + (_ctrl_pressed ? 8 : 0) + (!HASBIT(_cur_signal_variant, 0) != !_ctrl_pressed ? 16 : 0) + (_cur_signal_type << 5), 10:13:27 <Wolf01> i can add code around but is not so optimized as you want 10:14:30 <Tron> where's that line? 10:14:55 <Wolf01> line 216 on rail_gui.c 10:15:15 <Wolf01> the line might not be the same 10:15:18 <Wolf01> i'm on miniIN 10:15:24 <Tron> the line is empty 10:15:44 <Bjarni> Wolf01: are you sure it's in the trunk? 10:15:46 <Tron> there's nothing about signals within one screen of code 10:15:51 <Bjarni> somebody could have added it to the miniIN 10:16:04 <Wolf01> the function is GenericPlaceSignals 10:16:39 <Tron> DoCommandP(tile, i + (_ctrl_pressed ? 8 : 0), 0, CcPlaySound1E, 10:16:41 <Tron> this line? 10:17:00 * Tobin looks at openttd.org 10:17:01 <Wolf01> uhm, maybe has something to do with the signal gui 10:17:25 <CIA-2> truelight * r6460 /branches/coopetition/: -Branch: added coopetition branch. See http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/ for more details 10:17:41 <Tobin> Why does http://www.openttd.org/screens.php?image=images/screens/0.4.8/openttd-0.4.8-morphos waste so much space showing the user's desktop? Just to prove it works on MorphOS? 10:17:45 <Tron> what's so complicated about DoCommandP(tile, i + (_ctrl_pressed != (_date < SOME_DATE) ? 8 : 0), 0, CcPlaySound1E, 10:18:30 * Wolf01 become little little 10:18:32 <Wolf01> i didn't know what part to change 10:19:30 <JohnUK89> Back :) 10:21:42 <peter1138> coopetition? 10:23:17 <Tobin> Hehe. 10:23:20 <peter1138> so it's just a new word :) 10:24:03 <Tobin> Why would we need a branch to organise a petition for pigeon calls? 10:31:12 <Zaviori> Is 2cc in trunk now? :O 10:37:37 *** Spoco- [Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 10:40:27 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:43:18 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 10:46:53 <Darkvater> Tron: well VS6 support was removed when YAPF was added 10:47:30 <Tron> Darkvater: but exactly YAPF contains a VS6 workaround (ST_CONST) 10:48:23 <Darkvater> hmm could be. At first we tried to be VS6 compatible, but then when it turned out it's not possible, or would rape the whole code, that idea was abandoned. I guess that was left in 10:49:16 <Tron> KUDr_wrk: both const_cast<>s are unnecessary (and the comment at one is even wrong) 10:50:53 <Tron> bool bFound = Yapf().FindPath(v); 10:50:53 <Tron> if (!bFound) return false; 10:50:54 <Tron> ?! 10:52:30 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] 11:03:05 <Trenskow> My wife's jealousy is getting ridiculous. The other day she looked at my calendar and wanted to know who May was. 11:03:15 <Trenskow> quote Rodney Dangerfield 11:03:22 <qb> Trenskow, june's sister 11:03:26 <Trenskow> :) 11:03:34 <Trenskow> well... bbl 11:03:37 *** Trenskow [~outlet@5634fe47.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 11:09:21 * Brianetta peruses the openttd web site 11:09:31 <Brianetta> It's amazing how all the pages look alike 11:09:34 <Brianetta> even the forum 11:10:00 <Brianetta> a tasteful white 11:10:14 *** silent [~pwr@82.78.120.186] has joined #openttd 11:10:20 <Brianetta> matches the wiki now 11:10:48 <Brianetta> Couldn't the wiki be themed to match the regular web pages? 11:10:55 <Brianetta> Osai managed it for openttdcoop 11:14:08 *** jonty_comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 11:14:22 *** Machin [UPP@81.56.150.88] has joined #openttd 11:16:04 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:26:13 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 11:26:21 <MeusH> heya 11:26:34 <MeusH> Brianetta, hey 11:26:41 <Brianetta> MeusH: two secs... 11:27:29 <Brianetta> MeusH: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1428394031439053934 11:27:47 <MeusH> do you want me to translate that? 11:27:48 <JohnUK89> Ello MeusH 11:27:50 <Brianetta> That video shows two TTD tricks. The second is flooding a city, but I don't get the first. It's in Polish. 11:27:53 <MeusH> hi JohnUK89 11:28:01 <Brianetta> Just tell me what's going on 11:28:04 <MeusH> okay 11:29:52 *** jnmbk [~jnmbk@88.240.20.114] has joined #openttd 11:34:35 <MeusH> the loading will take a while 11:34:39 *** jnmbk [~jnmbk@88.240.20.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:34:39 <MeusH> I'll go for a diner 11:34:52 <MeusH> I hope it will get downloaded by the time I eat it :) 11:34:53 <MeusH> cya 11:36:13 <Brianetta> (: 11:36:31 <qb> how are the 32bit graphics coming along? 11:54:42 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81D2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:59:25 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176127246.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:09:04 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-160-176.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:15:02 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-096-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:15:15 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 12:15:24 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-195-10.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:18:40 <MeusH> Brianetta, I'm back, and I'm going to watch it 12:18:58 <MeusH> however only 1,5 minutes downloaded :/ 12:19:01 <MeusH> so give me some more time 12:20:31 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 12:23:10 <MeusH> so that guy created one big city and expanded it 12:23:19 <MeusH> then he created a "suburb" city 12:23:28 <MeusH> within the borders of the big city 12:23:36 <MeusH> and he deleted the big city 12:24:31 <MeusH> the small city has population of around 500 12:24:57 <MeusH> when he deleted some buildings, population went to 65 something (I think it's overflow) 12:25:03 <MeusH> 65 thousand 12:26:08 <MeusH> but actually the city has around one thousand people 12:26:12 <MeusH> he clicked "expand" 12:26:22 <MeusH> and skyscrapers popped up 12:27:17 <MeusH> so the result is a number of skyscrapers in that small city 12:27:23 <MeusH> city is expanding rapidly by itself 12:27:47 <MeusH> so that's it 12:31:08 <Brianetta> ah 12:31:56 <Brianetta> well, cheers. I've been puzzling over that all week. 12:35:18 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B37A56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:36:24 *** JohnUK89 [~John@ACD18D9E.ipt.aol.com] has left #openttd [] 12:38:48 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76D9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:46:03 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-196-053.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:50:50 *** ldnunes [~ldnunes@200-163-166-2.pltce7001.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #openttd 12:51:18 *** Guest56 [Gono@M3178P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:51:18 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N830P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:59:37 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 13:02:40 <CIA-2> miham * r6461 /trunk/lang/ (8 files): (log message trimmed) 13:02:40 <CIA-2> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-09-16 14:47:23 13:02:40 <CIA-2> catalan - 21 fixed, 46 changed by arnaullv (67) 13:02:40 <CIA-2> french - 20 fixed by glx (20) 13:02:40 <CIA-2> german - 13 fixed, 2 changed by Neonox (15) 13:02:42 <CIA-2> hungarian - 20 fixed by miham (20) 13:02:42 <CIA-2> polish - 20 fixed by meush (20) 13:11:44 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 13:15:57 <Darkvater> WTF? 13:16:02 <Darkvater> svn: 'pre-commit' hook failed with error output: 13:16:02 <Darkvater> /home/openttd/svn/hooks/commit-access-control.pl: user `Darkvater' does not have permission to commit to these paths: 13:17:33 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has joined #openttd 13:17:55 <Serriaromeo> hola everyone 13:18:57 <Serriaromeo> quick coding question, how hard would it be to add a option to the terragenesis that would allow it to randomly pick how hilly the maps are, sea level, and smoothness? 13:19:07 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has quit [Quit: blackis] 13:19:18 <Sacro> Serriaromeo: i was just pondering that myself 13:20:02 <Serriaromeo> this system is not setup to compile anything right now, or i would dl the latest svn, and play with it. 13:20:21 <Darkvater> there we go 13:20:22 <CIA-2> Darkvater * r6462 /trunk/ (9 files): 13:20:22 <CIA-2> -Codechange: Have GetStringWidth() return width as well as the height bounding 13:20:22 <CIA-2> box of the string. Therefore rename the function to GetStringBoundingRect() 13:20:22 <CIA-2> and have it return a BoundingRect type of width/height 13:23:57 <Darkvater> Belugas_Gone: ping 13:28:53 <Serriaromeo> possibly use the rand() function? 13:29:42 <Darkvater> Serriaromeo: most probably not that hard. 13:30:20 *** qb [~qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42:36 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 13:44:17 <CIA-2> Darkvater * r6463 /trunk/gfx.c: -Fix (r6462): Reset the string width to zero on every new line of course... 13:46:58 *** GoneWack1 [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:53:57 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:53:57 *** GoneWack1 is now known as GoneWacko 13:58:27 *** TrueLight [~truelight@s559112c3.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:58:49 <TrueLight> Hi all: all DNS entries are updated and some might not work as you might expect. If you notice any of such links within the openttd.org domain, please report to Darkvater 13:58:50 <TrueLight> thank you 13:58:52 *** TrueLight [~truelight@s559112c3.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [] 13:59:04 <Darkvater> :O 13:59:06 <Darkvater> why me/ 13:59:34 <hylje> why not 14:01:02 <Sacro> Darkvater: because TL isnt here 14:01:14 *** silent [~pwr@82.78.120.186] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 14:01:24 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-192-15.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 14:01:33 <Darkvater> yeah, he's a .. 14:01:34 <Darkvater> hehe 14:02:17 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2EveOnline 14:06:05 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:06:07 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:32:35 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:33:42 <peter1138> hi 14:35:08 <Brianetta> hi 14:35:23 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:39:37 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newsounds! 14:39:42 * Born_Acorn is always on the alert. 14:39:52 <peter1138> news hounds! 14:40:24 *** scia_ [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:41:16 *** Progman [~progman@p5091CDAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:44:39 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:47:01 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B37A56.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 14:50:31 *** Rens2EveOnline is now known as Rens2Sea 14:59:22 <MeusH> Darkvater! Measurement! 15:00:13 <Darkvater> MeusH: at 95% 15:00:25 <MeusH> :o great :) 15:01:57 <MeusH> Sacro> Darkvater: because TL isnt here <- TrueLight tried to be clever leaving this channel but he forgot about the other channels 15:08:20 <Sacro> MeusH: heh 15:12:16 *** grimrc [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:17:20 *** scia_ [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:17:41 *** KritiK_ [Maxim@ppp85-140-192-15.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 15:18:05 *** KritiK_ [Maxim@ppp85-140-192-15.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has left #openttd [] 15:18:07 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 15:25:04 <Darkvater> dammit, stupid point tool 15:25:04 <Darkvater> grr 15:28:03 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:29:37 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 15:32:08 *** Torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:33:20 <Torm> evening all :) 15:33:29 <hylje> hi 15:36:43 *** Torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [] 15:54:38 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75BD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:56:51 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 16:05:27 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 16:14:12 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B37A56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:17:56 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 16:21:51 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6464 /trunk/ (lang/english.txt vehicle.c): 16:21:51 <CIA-2> -Fix r6393: killed a warning when compiling without asserts 16:21:51 <CIA-2> added an error popup in the game if autoreplace fails to refit 16:21:51 <CIA-2> Since it's only triggered by conditions bugs can trigger, it works kind of like a non-fatal assert in builds without asserts 16:24:04 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:25:20 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 16:28:00 <Mucht> !seen OwenS 16:28:00 <_42_> Mucht, OwenS (oshepherd@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com) was last seen parting #openttdcoop 3 weeks 16 hours 9 minutes ago (26.08. 00:18), after spending some time there. 16:34:04 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 16:44:34 *** silent [~pwr@82.78.120.186] has joined #openttd 16:48:40 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 16:49:47 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has quit [Quit: blackis] 16:50:02 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 16:52:32 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:54:42 *** jonty_comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:57:25 *** znikoz [znikoz@82.207.44.101] has joined #openttd 16:59:42 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:01:26 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 17:03:15 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 17:16:28 *** Ammler [~Ammler@73-92.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:26:11 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AFK 17:35:12 *** Ammler [~Ammler@73-92.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 17:37:37 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 17:42:11 *** ldnunes [~ldnunes@200-163-166-2.pltce7001.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [] 17:43:56 <PandaMojo> Well, here's a question - if I submit a patch that would turn a crashing bug into something less critical (e.g. display glitch), what are the chances of something like that being accepted into trunk? 17:44:19 <AsterixMG> i'd say low 17:44:52 <AsterixMG> probably it would be better to do a real fix instead a workaround 17:45:25 <ln-> PandaMojo: below zero. 17:45:33 <PandaMojo> Of course - but the difference is that I know how to do the former, whereas the later probably involves tracking down some race condition :-/ 17:46:25 <AsterixMG> btw what crashbug are you talking of? 17:46:43 <PandaMojo> Lemme bring it up, one sec... 17:46:53 <PandaMojo> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/332 17:48:21 <Sacro> ln-: -0? 17:48:32 <AsterixMG> ah, i remember, its the one i couldn't reproduce :) 17:48:45 <PandaMojo> Yeah, and that I can't narrow down the cause of :-S 17:48:49 *** Wolf01|AFK is now known as Wolf01 17:50:51 <AsterixMG> and what do you think would solve the crash, PandaMojo ? 17:51:52 <PandaMojo> Well, since the one time I did manage to get it caught in the debugger it crashed due to a null pointer dereference in DrawWindowViewport, I'd basically assert() for debug mode, or bail out and just not draw it in release mode. 17:52:50 <AsterixMG> well, adding an assert is probably not considered a bugfix ;) 17:53:35 <PandaMojo> The bug is that it's drawing a null-viewport window in the first place obviously, but at least it'd allow the game to keep running. 17:55:06 <AsterixMG> btw, what version did did the bug in the added comment appear in? (and for the future: when you report a bug, put in which version you are reporting it for) 17:55:17 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Never look down on someone unless you're helping them up.] 17:55:28 <PandaMojo> "Bug occurs in R6392." 17:55:54 <PandaMojo> "Reported Version" was a dropdown 17:55:57 <PandaMojo> IIRC anyways 17:56:21 <AsterixMG> i thought the second one might have been a later version 17:56:47 <AsterixMG> and in comments there is no dropdown for version :) 17:56:57 <PandaMojo> Oh, the comment? No, same version. 18:00:23 <AsterixMG> :/ 18:01:14 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, PING 18:01:41 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, vehicle.c(1788): warning C4013: 'ShowErrorMessage' undefined; assuming extern returning int 18:06:25 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, perhaps you should have added #include "gui.h" to vehicle.c 18:12:46 <Sacro> hahaha 18:12:51 <AsterixMG> PandaMojo, hmm, with the few infos in your comment i can't reproduce it... i can drag the second engine in and out of the train as often as i want, no crash 18:13:22 <PandaMojo> Yeah, whenever I try to actually use a testbed scenario it never works >_< 18:13:33 <AsterixMG> Sacro, on msvc that waring is treated as an error -> no compile 18:13:36 <Sacro> yay, that crash 18:13:44 <Sacro> the DMU shifting crash 18:13:59 <AsterixMG> DMU? 18:14:00 <PandaMojo> DMU shifting...? 18:14:33 <Sacro> oh, is this a different one 18:14:43 <PandaMojo> :-\ 18:14:55 *** znikoz [znikoz@82.207.44.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:33 <AsterixMG> Sacro, what is DMU? 18:15:45 <Sacro> diesel multiple unit 18:16:14 <AsterixMG> ah, unit... i was trying to fit "engine" in somehow :/ 18:18:04 <hylje> :o 18:18:57 <Sacro> no, a DMU may only have 1 engine 18:26:29 *** silent [~pwr@82.78.120.186] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 18:27:29 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-83-100-151-47.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:32:44 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-195-10.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:32:54 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 18:49:07 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-160-176.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:26:46 <Born_Acorn> Bjarni, I used your cool article to test a new Infobox. http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Bjarni 19:26:47 <Born_Acorn> :p 19:31:16 <Sacro> :o 19:31:27 <Sacro> the light emmiting bit from my laptop screen is deaded 19:37:08 <guru3> the backlight? 19:37:14 <Sacro> guru3: yes 19:37:19 <Sacro> it seems very dim 19:37:20 <guru3> gotta hate that :/ 19:37:28 <guru3> it just up and died on one of my laptops one day 19:37:34 <guru3> now that laptop is like a desktop :/ 19:37:35 <Sacro> hmm, think its going on this one 19:37:43 <Sacro> and i need it until my student loan comes through 19:38:27 <guru3> :/ 19:38:30 <guru3> good luck >< 19:39:06 <Sacro> guru3: thanks... 19:39:33 <guru3> worse comes to worse cheap crt monitor i suppose 19:40:43 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-196-053.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: YOU! It was you wasn't it!?] 19:41:44 <Sacro> guru3: yeah 19:41:55 <Sacro> but then ive got a laptop with external keyboard mouse and monitor 19:42:02 <Sacro> even less portable 19:42:25 <guru3> but you can still get at your stuff in the worst case 19:42:34 <Sacro> well yeah 19:42:45 <Sacro> it runs ssh and vnc anyway 19:43:03 <guru3> never mind then >< 19:43:19 <guru3> if it's linux you could use a serial consol with like a palm iiix 19:43:28 <Sacro> i dont have a palm 19:43:52 <guru3> beats me then 19:44:12 <Wolf01> 'night all 19:44:18 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host84-173-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 19:45:20 <Sacro> if it goes down, i can borrow a caddy, or i can boot it and ssh/vnc in 20:00:10 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:08:01 *** fusey [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has quit [Quit: Peace and Protection 4.22] 20:10:34 <Born_Acorn> blathijs_, would you consider yourself an active OpenTTD developer? 20:12:11 * Born_Acorn is doing these infoboxes 20:12:35 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82B7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:12:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:12:38 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: i dont think he ever speaks 20:12:52 * Born_Acorn fills it in as "Unactive" then. 20:13:01 <Born_Acorn> Anyone can always change it. :p 20:13:04 <Prof_Frink> Inactive, shirley 20:13:21 <Sacro> he appears as mathijs or something under svn 20:13:33 <Bjarni> <Sacro> Born_Acorn: i dont think he ever speaks <-- wrong 20:13:49 <Bjarni> he just avoids YOU 20:14:02 * Sacro makes a note to avoid the dutch more often 20:14:02 <Born_Acorn> Sensible man. 20:14:10 * Born_Acorn hides from any wrath 20:14:23 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, seen the warning? 20:14:47 * Sacro alters Bjarni's wiki page 20:15:05 <Bjarni> you mean you are creating one for me? :) 20:15:30 <Born_Acorn> You have one. 20:15:33 <Sacro> no...editing the current one 20:15:35 <Born_Acorn> On the OpenTTD wiki 20:15:42 * Born_Acorn added an infobox to it! 20:15:57 <Bjarni> somebody wrote a wiki page about me? 20:16:01 <Prof_Frink> aye. 20:16:04 <Prof_Frink> Born_Acorn. 20:16:07 <Bjarni> cool 20:16:11 <Born_Acorn> No, it was already there! 20:16:19 <Born_Acorn> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Bjarni 20:16:21 <Bjarni> URL? 20:16:25 <Bjarni> wow 20:16:40 <Born_Acorn> You are a Developer. :p 20:16:52 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: UKRS needs editing 20:16:53 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn is a fortune teller 20:16:58 <Sacro> 2cc is now in trunk 20:16:59 <Bjarni> he can tell the future 20:17:04 <Noldo> Developers! Developers! 20:17:09 <Prof_Frink> </ballmer> 20:17:10 <Born_Acorn> I can? 20:17:20 <Bjarni> [22:16] <Born_Acorn> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Bjarni 20:17:20 <Bjarni> [22:16] <Bjarni> URL? 20:17:25 <Born_Acorn> ah. 20:17:49 <Born_Acorn> No seconds on your Timestamp? 20:17:53 <Born_Acorn> How rare! 20:17:57 <Noldo> Prof_Frink: sorry, it just surfaced form the dark depths of my subconsiuosness 20:17:59 <Sacro> i dont have seconds here either 20:18:04 <Bjarni> time doesn't matter 20:18:11 <Born_Acorn> There's a lot of Seconds in a minute! 20:18:17 <Sacro> 60ish 20:18:47 <ln-> can be more than 60 20:18:57 <Prof_Frink> indeed 20:19:03 <Prof_Frink> leap seconds and the like 20:19:12 <Born_Acorn> 60 is a lot! 20:19:25 <Bjarni> time is irreverent 20:19:30 *** fusey [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 20:19:34 <Prof_Frink> lunchtime doubly so 20:19:51 <Bjarni> the goal is the goal, not how long it takes 20:20:13 <Sacro> mm elliot reid is quite fit 20:20:13 <Born_Acorn> My USB ports are frigging up. >:( 20:20:16 <Bjarni> do you know how long it took to make the autoreplace GUI? 20:20:26 <Prof_Frink> Born_Acorn: ...! 20:20:28 <Sacro> Bjarni: do we care? time is irrelavent 20:20:32 <Bjarni> see 20:20:47 <Sacro> and it still borks in places 20:20:55 <Born_Acorn> Prof_Frink! 20:20:58 <Prof_Frink> t, where 0 < t < infinite 20:22:09 <Prof_Frink> I don't want to know what your USB ports are up to 20:23:06 <Bjarni> <AsterixMG> Bjarni, seen the warning? <-- yeah, now... and it's easy to solve, but now DV PMed me with the message that the GUI should not inform of the failure 20:23:22 <AsterixMG> lol 20:23:54 <Bjarni> so if a player somehow trigger this, he can end up transporting iron ore in all his coal trains or something and the game will not tell him 20:24:32 <Bjarni> I would prefer a message if this happens (only happens if asserts are turned off) 20:24:50 <Sacro> + 20:25:10 <AsterixMG> well, i did not really look at what it does :) 20:25:29 <AsterixMG> i tried to compile and msvc treated the warning as error 20:25:44 <Bjarni> oops 20:25:51 <AsterixMG> so i looked where its defined, put the include at the top and it compiled again :) 20:27:25 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B37A56.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 20:27:29 <Bjarni> hmm 20:27:50 * Sacro wonders where sophie is tonight 20:27:57 <AsterixMG> maybe its not the best solution, but it worked 20:28:07 <Bjarni> including gui.h in vehicle.c kind of spoils the work on making a clear difference between core and GUI 20:30:54 <Sacro> rofl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m05unqfSOEQ&mode=related&search= 20:31:48 <Bjarni> Sacro: here you go: a neck injury 20:32:24 <Sacro> yup 20:33:07 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: Coding Speciality: Mac Specialist and porter <--- wake up.... you forgot something very important 20:33:13 <Bjarni> vehicles! 20:33:20 * Born_Acorn slaps forhead 20:33:28 <Born_Acorn> How can I forget Autoreplace. 20:33:41 <Bjarni> and cloning 20:33:44 <Born_Acorn> The best vehicle management feature since sliced bread 20:34:07 <Bjarni> and mass goto depots 20:34:17 <Bjarni> and all the other stuff 20:34:30 <Born_Acorn> You should list them all! 20:34:41 <Born_Acorn> It's your article after all! 20:35:07 <Sacro> Bjarni: can we have a mass leave depot pleasee 20:35:11 <Bjarni> I only wrote one thing on the wiki so far: how to compile on mac 20:35:37 <Bjarni> Sacro: yeah... it will be there when somebody can tell me where to but the damn button without making the window messy >_< 20:36:01 <Bjarni> I think I know how to code it, but I don't know where to place the button :P 20:36:15 <Born_Acorn> So give me a complete list and I'll write it all in for you! 20:36:47 <Bjarni> hmm 20:37:00 <Bjarni> how to read the svn log for one person only... 20:37:07 <Sacro> put it on the depot window 20:37:13 <Sacro> grep? 20:38:03 <Bjarni> grep can't do it, at least not in a simple way 20:38:16 <Bjarni> <Sacro> put it on the depot window <-- yeah, but where in that window :P 20:38:29 <Bjarni> I know what window to place it in, but not where in that damn window 20:38:53 <Sacro> under the dynamite, next to the scrollbar? 20:38:57 <Sacro> it'd fit nicely in there 20:39:05 <AsterixMG> well, tortoise-svn offers filtering, so its probably possible somehow ;) 20:39:25 <Born_Acorn> Bjarni, what about a toggle switch. 20:39:54 <Born_Acorn> You press "Send all to Depots" once, and it changes to "Release all vehicles from depots" or something similar. 20:40:31 <Prof_Frink> Born_Acorn: but you'd want it on a per-depot basis 20:40:39 <Born_Acorn> hmm. 20:40:46 <Born_Acorn> Yes. 20:40:46 <Bjarni> oh, you meant release ALL vehicles from depots, not just one depot? 20:41:00 <Prof_Frink> I say a big green/red flag above the sell button 20:41:07 <Born_Acorn> But I've sometimes pressed "Send all to Depots", wanting new vehicles. :p 20:41:43 <Bjarni> control click goto depot to make them service there only :P 20:41:52 <Bjarni> and... 20:41:54 <Bjarni> o_O 20:42:09 <Born_Acorn> You tookk away my New Vehicles button! 20:42:18 <Bjarni> we got the first report from a guy, who used that new vehicle button 20:42:24 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B37A56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:42:28 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: yes, twas evil 20:42:31 <Bjarni> nobody used it 20:42:36 <Sacro> now you have to build a depot to check whats available 20:42:40 <Sacro> Bjarni: i did 20:42:42 <Bjarni> I asked several people and they all said "never used it" 20:42:43 <Born_Acorn> I did. 20:42:46 <Sacro> was going to use it for 2cc testing 20:43:03 <Born_Acorn> I used to see what was available when first starting a new game 20:43:19 <Born_Acorn> By pressing that! 20:43:31 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: me too 20:43:42 <Born_Acorn> Now it's gone! 20:43:44 <Born_Acorn> Gone forever! 20:43:48 * Born_Acorn cries 20:43:53 <Bjarni> nobody said that 20:44:00 <Bjarni> ok, you did, but who cares :P 20:44:02 <Born_Acorn> I did! 20:44:14 <Prof_Frink> Born_Acorn: who cares *about you*? 20:44:29 <Born_Acorn> The Government does! 20:44:42 <Born_Acorn> They want my money! 20:44:43 <Sacro> yes, they are watching him 20:44:57 <Bjarni> Sacro: you too 20:45:03 <Bjarni> everybody watches you 20:45:12 <Sacro> yup 20:45:12 <Bjarni> everybody are after you 20:45:15 <Sacro> >< 20:45:21 <Sacro> cant belive the debt people found me 20:45:47 <Bjarni> just look out of the window. The street is full of people waiting for their chance to kill you, right? 20:45:54 <Sacro> yes 20:46:05 <Bjarni> and you claim not to be paranoid? 20:46:17 <Sacro> im not 20:46:33 <Sacro> how can i be paranoid when i can see them 20:46:36 <Bjarni> you think everybody wants to kill you and you are not paranoid? 20:47:01 <Sacro> noo, not everybody 20:47:02 <Born_Acorn> Yeah, but he's Sacro. Everybody actually does want to kill him. 20:47:14 <Bjarni> you know, don't believe everything your mom tells you 20:47:16 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: thanks 20:47:22 <Sacro> Bjarni: i belive the phone calls i get 20:47:32 <Born_Acorn> Ever since he asploded the Memorial which all the townsfolk love! 20:47:43 <Bjarni> hmm 20:47:50 <Born_Acorn> Just Like The Simpsons! 20:47:58 <Bjarni> so it was wrong of me to give you a prank phone call then? 20:48:04 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. 20:48:15 <Bjarni> yeah 20:48:21 <Bjarni> listen to what the professor said 20:48:36 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: thats not it >< 20:48:43 <Sacro> im NOT paranoid and they ARE out to get me 20:48:44 <Born_Acorn> Look what he did! http://static.flickr.com/16/93549144_4666a6edda_m.jpg 20:48:50 <Bjarni> <Sacro> cant belive the debt people found me <-- just wondering... did you think that they would just forget about those £6500? 20:49:21 <Sacro> Bjarni: yes 20:49:26 <Sacro> well, hoped 20:50:14 <Bjarni> think positively about this 20:50:25 <Bjarni> now you don't have to figure out who you owe money 20:51:38 *** Guest56 [Gono@N732P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 20:52:09 <Sacro> true 20:53:17 <Bjarni> so now you got two options 20:53:42 <Bjarni> 1: figure out how to make them take the money by force from the household (they will do that for you if you wait) 20:53:52 <Sacro> nah, they cant, i have nothing 20:54:07 <Bjarni> HOUSEHOLD, not you personally 20:54:51 <Bjarni> they might find money from taking stuff from other members of the household 20:55:00 <Sacro> nope, thats not allowed 20:55:28 <Bjarni> 2: talk to them and say that you can't pay all of it right now (lack of money) and that you better figure out what to do then 20:55:40 <Bjarni> like paying something each week or month or something 20:56:21 <Sacro> im gonna call em on monday 20:56:29 <Sacro> tell em im a student, with no job an no income 20:56:31 <Bjarni> remember when you got such a agreement, they will not show up and take your computer and so on if you do pay according to that agreement ON TIME 20:57:05 <Bjarni> then you got the option to actually own stuff and start that company you talked about and make money to pay off your debt 20:57:15 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@M3178P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:58:54 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-83-100-151-47.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:59:10 <Sacro_> >< need another microfilter 20:59:50 <mikk36> ? 20:59:51 <Born_Acorn> How did you manage to get into debt in the first place? Student loans? 20:59:57 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 21:00:06 <mikk36> Bjarni is in debts ? 21:00:15 <grimrc> they'll probably back-off a lot when they release you're telling the truth about being unable to pay atm 21:00:17 <Bjarni> NO!!!! 21:00:26 <Darkvater> Bjarni: r6464? 21:00:28 <Bjarni> people actually owe me money 21:00:35 <mikk36> oh 21:00:53 <Bjarni> and I don't owe money to anybody, not even the bank (as strange as it may sound) 21:01:03 <mikk36> why strange ? 21:01:10 <mikk36> i don't owe anyone anything either 21:01:31 <Born_Acorn> Neither do I! 21:01:31 <Sacro_> Born_Acorn: it was a loan 21:01:40 <Born_Acorn> Ah. 21:01:49 <Sacro_> then i got into severe depression, lost my job, had credit card debts, and mobile phone contract 21:01:49 <Bjarni> why did you need £6500? 21:02:06 <mikk36> :/ 21:02:06 <Sacro_> its not that much now, i think its about 4000, i paid off 2000 21:02:39 *** Sacro is now known as Guest1053 21:02:48 <mikk36> uhm... £6500 is about 9.6k :/ 21:02:48 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 21:03:00 <mikk36> that's.. uhm... a lot of money.. 21:03:01 <Darkvater> Bjarni: I donnnu wtf you are doing, but compiling your wc before you commit is surely not one of them 21:03:05 <Darkvater> c:\Documents and Settings\tomi\Desktop\openttd\vehicle.c(1788): warning C4013: 'ShowErrorMessage' undefined; assuming extern returning int 21:03:41 <Born_Acorn> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/User:Born_Acorn <-- I just love making these little boxes. :p 21:03:50 <Born_Acorn> MeusH, you want one? :p 21:04:18 <Sacro> Bjarni: ive im doing a computer science degree, they cant take my computer off me 21:04:36 <Sacro> s/ive/if/ 21:05:14 *** Guest1053 [~ben@adsl-83-100-151-47.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:07:44 <CIA-2> rubidium * r6465 /trunk/ (BUGS table/elrail_data.h unmovable.h): -Fix: change some instances of '/* $Id */' to '/* $Id$ */', so SVN can do what is was supposed to do.. 21:14:10 <Sacro> hmm 21:14:32 <hylje> O RLY? 21:14:44 <Sacro> SRLSY? 21:14:44 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:15:31 <Born_Acorn> Yay new category. 21:15:31 <Born_Acorn> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Category:Developers 21:17:02 <Sacro> :o im older than Truelight 21:19:23 <CIA-2> rubidium * r6466 /branches/MiniIN/ (45 files in 5 dirs): [MiniIN]: Sync with trunk r6395:6413. 21:19:35 * Sacro hugs Rubidium 21:19:58 <hylje> yay, miniin sync <3 21:20:44 <Rubidium> not that there is any new feature in it ;) 21:20:46 <Bjarni> I got a question for you guys. Say we got a bug, which makes autoreplace change carried cargo in vehicles (refit fails), what should the game do: Print it to the console, make the game quit with an error window or something third? 21:20:59 <Bjarni> we need a solution on this one TONIGHT 21:21:15 <hylje> assert of course 21:21:17 <Sacro> Bjarni: restore the old train? 21:21:30 <tokai> hmm.. freenodes lilo died a few days ago. 21:21:40 <Born_Acorn> tokai, really? 21:21:44 <Sacro> really? 21:21:45 <tokai> yeah 21:21:52 <Bjarni> tokai: signed off or really died? 21:22:09 <tokai> in real life 21:22:16 <Bjarni> hmm 21:22:17 <tokai> hit by a car 21:22:18 <Rubidium> no, when you change/refit engine/wagons you should lose all cargo. Do you think that when they are going to refurbish a train they leave the passengers, grain, whatever in it? 21:22:21 <Born_Acorn> youch. 21:22:22 <Bjarni> he was not that old 21:22:22 <SpComb> for those not on freenode: -christel(i=christel@freenode/staff/gentoo.christel)- [Global Notice] On the 12th September Rob Levin, known to many as Freenode's lilo, was hit by a car while riding his bike. He suffered head injuries and passed away in hospital on the 16th. For more information please visit #freenode-announce 21:22:26 <Bjarni> oh 21:22:30 <Bjarni> not natural causes then 21:23:02 <Sacro> his blog is down 21:23:14 <Darkvater> perhaps we can move back now :P 21:23:17 <Bjarni> it's not like he wrote it in his blog 21:23:35 <Bjarni> "hi. Today something special happened. I died" 21:23:37 <SpComb> well, it doesn't say he was unconsious in the hospital 21:23:38 <Sacro> Bjarni: i was considering e-mailing and letting him know 21:23:40 <tokai> Darkvater: you're mean :) 21:23:47 <SpComb> he spent 4 days in a hospital... 21:23:51 <Born_Acorn> Darkvater, It'd really be quieter. :p 21:24:06 <Bjarni> <tokai> Darkvater: you're mean :) <-- for writing a comment I was thinking about writing? 21:24:21 <hylje> lilo died, so can we move back to freenode 21:24:33 <Born_Acorn> The Netsplits are still there. :p 21:24:42 <guru3> well 21:24:45 <tokai> well.. thinking this is okay i guess. 21:24:48 <guru3> guess who just died 21:24:55 <Sacro> [22:24] * [lilo] is away (Whoops, I've stepped away. For URGENT freenode help (channel flooding, trolling users, network problems or access issues), please email my pager at 4iiygyvs@freenode.net . It's my job and I'm happy to respond. For ROUTINE issues, please see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp .... Please take a look at my personal blog when you get a chance: http://spinhome.org .... Thanks!) 21:24:56 <Bjarni> lilo? 21:25:00 <guru3> yeah 21:25:33 <Sacro> global notice has just gone round 21:25:39 <Born_Acorn> Sacro, shouldn't it be "Whoops, I've stepped into the light" 21:25:45 <Born_Acorn> ? 21:25:49 <Sacro> <jra> +see it this way. no donations for his motorhome could mean actual compensations for the network <- haha 21:26:03 <SpComb> guru3: just? Yesterday... 21:26:28 <guru3> news to me 21:26:35 <tokai> i guess his family didnt switched off his computers yet.. or his boss/ co-workers (whereever this computer is located) 21:26:44 <Sacro> [22:18] -christel- [Global Notice] On the 12th September Rob Levin, known to many as Freenode's lilo, was hit by a car while riding his bike. He suffered head injuries and passed away in hospital on the 16th. For more information please visit #freenode-announce 21:27:26 <Sacro> :o ive just seen my first k-line 21:28:06 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: who&why? 21:28:16 <Sacro> [22:24] <Tim_> -ok, I can beat up lilo in hell 21:28:22 <Sacro> [22:25] * Tim_ has quit (K-lined) 21:28:28 <Sacro> thats in ##php on freenode 21:28:35 <hylje> heheh 21:29:00 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-145-18.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 21:30:38 <Born_Acorn> What if you say. "I hope lilo did not go to hell, and that he has ascended to the heavens of the religion of his choice"? 21:31:14 <Born_Acorn> Or, "Hell! lilo died!" 21:31:24 * Sacro switches to grub 21:31:26 <Born_Acorn> The the K-Line script skip those? :p 21:31:45 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: dunno, try it on freenode ;) 21:31:54 <Sacro> rofl 21:32:01 <Born_Acorn> I have no reason to go back again. :p 21:32:06 <Sacro> loads and loads of php related jokes on ##php 21:33:35 <Sacro> so he actually died 4 days ago...has someone only just noticed the ping timeout 21:34:18 <hylje> hah 21:34:44 <Sacro> he should be on here, it'd be noticed in 480 seconds 21:35:16 <hylje> what you think gets printed on his grave 21:35:28 <Sacro> Connection reset by peer... 21:37:30 <Prof_Frink> Damn you peer! 21:38:23 <Nigel> he's still actually on freenode 21:38:35 <hylje> so much for irssi 21:39:12 <Nigel> /whois somegeek (here) /whois lilo (freenode) 21:39:34 <Nigel> "* [lilo] is away (Whoops, I've stepped away. For URGENT freenode help (channel flooding, trolling users, network problems or access issues), please email my pager at 4iiygyvs@freenode.net . It's my job and I'm happy to respond. For ROUTINE issues, please see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp .... Please take a look at my personal blog when you get a chance: http://spinhome.org .... Thanks!)" 21:39:38 <Sacro> Nigel: check logs :p 21:39:53 <Sacro> [22:24] <<Sacro>> [22:24] * [lilo] is away... 21:40:18 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Probably doing something else] 21:40:22 <Nigel> needs to be changed to "* [lilo] is away (Whoops, I've stepped into my grave.)" 21:40:35 <Sacro> Nigel: ping timeout 21:46:08 <Born_Acorn> People really hate EA Games 21:46:10 <Born_Acorn> http://www.totalbf2142.com/images/customavatars/avatar330_11.gif 21:46:11 <Born_Acorn> D: 21:49:47 * AsterixMG goes to be now 21:49:52 <AsterixMG> good night @all 21:49:55 *** AsterixMG [~chatzilla@p5081BEF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 21:52:54 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p54B360AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:53:39 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387EBC8.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:53:43 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC7734.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54:56 *** Progman [~progman@p5091CDAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:55:31 <MeusH> Born_Acorn, Nice box, but actually I don't want to have one especially on a small wiki. everyone knows I'm a sysop and I don't feel need to announce it 21:56:05 <CIA-2> rubidium * r6467 /branches/MiniIN/ (41 files in 4 dirs): [MiniIN]: Sync with trunk r6413:6439 21:56:13 <MeusH> Hmm, we need to unify developers... there are both pages with "User:" and without 21:56:25 <MeusH> what do you think Born_Acorn what should be changed? 21:57:31 <Born_Acorn> We should probably make pages with no "User" there. Then the Dev's can make their own personal Talk Pages like everyone else, and there can be an encyclopaedic article about them too. 21:58:26 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B37A56.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:06:02 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@ppp85-140-192-15.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 22:06:02 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-192-15.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:06:05 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 22:09:00 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 22:09:43 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6468 /trunk/ (lang/english.txt vehicle.c): 22:09:43 <CIA-2> -Codechange r6464: now use error() when failing refit in autoreplace to ensure that such a failure will not break a game 22:09:43 <CIA-2> We should only reach this error() if there is a bug, that would otherwise make the vehicles carry a different type of cargo without telling the user 22:09:43 <CIA-2> This also kills the warning added in r6464 (oops) 22:12:13 <Darkvater> gn all 22:15:35 <Bjarni> <Born_Acorn> People really hate EA Games <-- are you sure it's not a neo nazi and that he prises them? 22:16:06 <Born_Acorn> From the general consensus about EA on that particular forum........ definately not. 22:16:47 <Bjarni> then you didn't supply enough data for us to make a conclusion 22:17:53 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai^zZz 22:20:14 <Born_Acorn> http://www.tt-terminal.co.uk/openttdwikisearch.shtml 22:20:15 <Born_Acorn> yay 22:21:52 <Born_Acorn> Bjarni was born in 1745! 22:21:58 <Bjarni> o_O 22:22:03 <MeusH> goodnight Darkvater 22:22:25 <Born_Acorn> Bjarni, it's the truth! I have hardcore proof! 22:22:27 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: that's a secret 22:22:37 <Bjarni> how did you know that??? 22:22:48 <Born_Acorn> The Wiki never lies! 22:23:59 <MeusH> Born_Acorn, <input name="sourceid" vaue="Mozilla-search"> is wrond 22:24:01 <MeusH> wrong* 22:24:04 <MeusH> should be value 22:24:08 <mikk36> lol 22:24:16 <Born_Acorn> hmm. oops. 22:24:40 <Bjarni> <Born_Acorn> The Wiki never lies! <-- at one time wikipedia claimed that OpenTTD was coded in ASM 22:25:00 <Bjarni> that claim was removed pretty quickly though 22:25:45 <MeusH> people still argue whether the town is called Gdansk or Danzig - once it was called Gdanzig on wikipedia to cease flamewars 22:28:15 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 22:28:57 <Bjarni> it's Gdansk 22:31:06 <Bjarni> Danzig is so... Danzig 22:33:05 <Born_Acorn> GDanzk 22:36:08 <Born_Acorn> Born_Acorn, Nice box, but actually I don't want to have one especially on a small wiki. everyone knows I'm a sysop and I don't feel need to announce it <-- I wanted to be able to show I was one to new users, should they want help. 22:37:12 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: you should not go around here and yell that you need sex 22:37:25 <Bjarni> "This user is a SysOp on the OpenTTD Wiki." means "I need to get laid" 22:37:34 <Bjarni> since you wrote it yourself 22:38:24 <Born_Acorn> pfft. Don't be silly 22:38:34 <Born_Acorn> Everyone knows girls don't exist on the internet. 22:39:14 <Born_Acorn> Never mind girls reading the Wiki of a transport game on the internet. 22:39:25 <Born_Acorn> The probabilities are loooooow. :p 22:43:16 <Born_Acorn> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Bjarni <-- I added a bit more. Woo! 22:43:38 <Born_Acorn> The blathijs and MYOB articles are (and already were) blank though, and need expansion! 22:46:19 <Bjarni> MacOS port of OpenTTD. <-- no I don't 22:46:28 <Bjarni> I never ported the game to MacOS and never will 22:46:33 <Bjarni> I ported to MacOS X 22:46:37 <Bjarni> big difference 22:47:14 <Sacro> PEDANTS 22:48:10 <Bjarni> Sacro: no, it's like say the windows XP porter got a page saying "windows 95 porter" or even "DOS porter" 22:48:24 <Bjarni> MacOS and MacOS X are totally different 22:49:00 <Bjarni> MacOS X is unix like, while MacOS lacks even the most simple access to a CLI interface 22:49:06 <Sacro> 95 and XP arent 22:49:22 <Sacro> but i know what you mean, ive used Mac OS and OSX 22:49:24 <Bjarni> yeah, bad comparison 22:50:29 <Bjarni> MacOS X is totally rewritten and they started out with FreeBSD, not MacOS in mind 22:50:33 <MeusH> done, Bjarni 22:50:43 <Bjarni> they made the GUI MacOS like, but the internals are not 22:51:31 <Bjarni> see, I don't have to mess with the wiki. People will do it for me :) 22:52:13 <MeusH> yeea 22:52:18 <MeusH> cyu guys 22:52:25 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: bye - quit] 22:52:40 <Bjarni> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php?title=Bjarni&diff=12954&oldid=12945 <-- ROFL 22:53:01 <Bjarni> that got nothing to do with the easter egg I added to OpenTTD 22:53:22 <mikk36> meh ? 22:53:58 <Bjarni> yeah, I'm older than you think 22:54:10 <Bjarni> even older than I thought :) 22:54:22 <mikk36> no i mean.. what easter egg ? 22:54:24 <Sacro> 1745? 22:55:10 <Bjarni> mikk36: well... if I told you, then it would not be a secret anymore, would it? :) 22:55:25 <mikk36> i don't mind :) 22:55:33 <mikk36> u could whisper it :) 22:56:10 <Bjarni> well 22:56:29 <Bjarni> try to write "make love" 22:56:38 <Bjarni> instead of just make 22:56:42 <Bjarni> and see what happens 22:56:53 <mikk36> ? 22:57:01 <mikk36> ingame or to compile ? 22:57:03 <Bjarni> since windows do not use the makefile, this will of cause not work on windows 22:57:05 <Sacro> to compile 22:57:18 <Sacro> Bjarni: windows is not a compiler, its an OS 22:57:18 <mikk36> oh.. haven't got linux right now 22:57:34 <Sacro> ben@laptop ~/OpenTTD/trunk $ make love 22:57:34 <Sacro> ===> DEP rev.c 22:57:34 <Sacro> YES! I thought you would never ask. We will have a great time. You can keep me turned on all night 22:58:02 <mikk36> lol, nice one :P 22:58:47 <Bjarni> I added it ages ago when people started talking about the lack of easter eggs. Took me no time at all to write it and smuggle it into the trunk without a message in the log 22:59:02 <Bjarni> and it took like two months before people noticed it and started talking about it 22:59:23 <mikk36> :P 22:59:56 <Bjarni> the funny thing is that people even talked about lack of easter eggs AFTER I added it. They just didn't find it 23:01:18 <mikk36> ;) 23:01:45 <Bjarni> I can't remember what OS/GNU make you need to do this, but if you use the right one and write "make love" in a place where no makefile is present, it will reply with "Error: don't know how to make love" 23:02:00 <Bjarni> $ make love 23:02:01 <Bjarni> make: *** No rule to make target `love'. Stop. 23:02:12 <Bjarni> I don't have the right OS/GNU make :/ 23:02:16 <mikk36> lol 23:02:44 * mikk36 np: Katie Melua - Nine Million Bicycles [0:26/3:09] 192kbps - 44Khz 23:02:56 <Bjarni> !seen tits 23:02:57 <mikk36> nice chillout stuff :) 23:02:57 <_42_> Bjarni, I don't remember seeing tits. 23:03:05 <Bjarni> and _42_ is on the internet??? 23:03:10 <mikk36> naughty Bjarni 23:03:12 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 23:03:22 <Bjarni> well 23:03:25 <Bjarni> !seen spam 23:03:27 <_42_> Bjarni, spam? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember spam. 23:03:39 <Bjarni> lucky him 23:03:46 <PandaMojo> !seen Nakid Women 23:03:47 <_42_> PandaMojo, I don't remember seeing Nakid. 23:03:51 <mikk36> Naked* 23:03:58 <PandaMojo> !seen Naked Woman 23:03:59 <_42_> PandaMojo, Naked? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember Naked. 23:04:08 <PandaMojo> Poor _42_ fails. 23:04:13 <Bjarni> !seen boobs 23:04:15 <_42_> Bjarni, I don't remember seeing boobs. 23:04:27 <Sacro> !seen flying dutcman 23:04:27 <_42_> Sacro, flying? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember flying. 23:04:46 <Bjarni> at one time, I wrote stuff like that 2 or 3 times and then TrueLight kicked me :( 23:04:46 <Sacro> !seen flying nam 23:04:47 <_42_> Sacro, flying? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember flying. 23:04:51 <Sacro> !seen nam 23:04:51 <_42_> Sacro, I don't remember seeing nam. 23:04:56 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:05:04 <Bjarni> he didn't like people playing with his bot while he coded it 23:05:07 <Sacro> !seen Tobin 23:05:07 <_42_> Sacro, if you can't see Tobin here right now, you probably need new glasses. ^_^ 23:05:11 <PandaMojo> He's not here right now <_< >_> :-D 23:05:22 <Sacro> !seen _42_ 23:05:23 <_42_> Sacro, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel. 23:05:34 <Bjarni> !seen Diablo-D3 23:05:35 <mikk36> !seen myself 23:05:35 <_42_> Bjarni, Diablo-D3 (diablo@pool-64-222-232-26.port.east.verizon.net) was last seen parting #openttd 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours 24 minutes ago (22.08. 09:40), after spending 5 minutes there. 23:05:37 <_42_> mikk36, I don't remember seeing myself. 23:05:42 <mikk36> :) 23:05:56 <Sacro> 3 weeks :| 23:05:58 <Bjarni> yeah, we finally managed to get rid of Diablo :D 23:06:07 <Sacro> !seen bobingabout 23:06:09 <_42_> Sacro, you know that the length of nicks is limited, don't you? 23:06:15 <mikk36> :/ 23:06:18 <Sacro> yes, and thats a fine one 23:06:21 *** Sacro is now known as bobingabout 23:06:24 <bobingabout> !seen bobingabout 23:06:25 <_42_> bobingabout, Hum... don't you think this nick is a bit long? ^_^ 23:06:27 <bobingabout> !seen bobingabout 23:06:29 <_42_> bobingabout, Hum... don't you think this nick is a bit long? ^_^ 23:06:37 *** bobingabout was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [bad nick] 23:06:40 <mikk36> darn stupid bot 23:06:43 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-151-47.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:06:46 <Sacro> stupid bot 23:06:56 <mikk36> * Bjarni has kicked bobingabout from #openttd (bad nick) 23:06:56 <mikk36> <mikk36> darn stupid bot 23:07:10 <mikk36> :) 23:07:18 <mikk36> right after he kicked u 23:07:25 <Bjarni> reminds me of when we banned Diablo-D3 and left him in the banlist for months because we forgot all about it 23:07:34 <mikk36> lol 23:07:34 <Bjarni> it was intended to be a one day ban or something 23:07:42 <mikk36> and he returned afterwards + 23:07:44 <mikk36> ? 23:07:45 <Sacro> "oops" 23:07:52 <Bjarni> yes, he returned 23:07:58 <mikk36> wow :P 23:08:07 <Bjarni> bad luck 23:08:21 <mikk36> uhm.. guys... could u suggest me a movie ? 23:08:31 <mikk36> to watch 23:08:37 <Bjarni> that depends 23:08:46 <Sacro> debbie does dallas 23:08:59 <Bjarni> are you a die hard or pretty woman kind of guy? 23:09:17 <mikk36> in between and die hard 23:09:22 <Sacro> do you prefer guys with guns, or prostitutes :p 23:09:30 <Bjarni> haha 23:09:30 <mikk36> both :P 23:09:40 <Sacro> hmm, both 23:09:44 * mikk36 np: Ministry of Sound - Chillout Mix Liquid Acid [0:19/69:37] 160kbps - 44Khz 23:09:47 <Bjarni> hmm 23:09:50 <mikk36> lol 23:10:02 <Bjarni> now I know what movie would be right for mikk36 23:10:09 <Sacro> :o American Beauty 23:10:13 <Bjarni> at least what kind 23:10:24 * mikk36 is downloading atm "Buffalo Soldiers" and "The Shawshank Redemption" 23:10:38 <mikk36> seen both... but don't have them myself... 23:10:38 <Bjarni> we should find one with prostitute gang wars, where they carry guns at all time 23:10:45 <mikk36> lol 23:10:56 <Bjarni> the best of two worlds 23:11:14 <Sacro> thats a disturbing idea for a film 23:11:24 <Sacro> PHWOAR 23:11:25 <mikk36> let's produce it :D 23:11:35 <Bjarni> yeah 23:11:52 <mikk36> i'll be the cameraman 23:12:11 <mikk36> Bjarni, u'll be the mic guy ? 23:12:16 <mikk36> and sacro will lead the actors 23:12:32 <mikk36> :P 23:12:34 <Bjarni> mikk36: you get the actors. Since they appear to be so easy to get at your location, it should not be hard to get girls to act like prostitutes and we just use real bullets to lower actor payment costs 23:13:04 <mikk36> easy to get at my location ? 23:13:17 <mikk36> i don't know... i'm not really into such stuff... 23:13:18 <Sacro> i was gonna provide prostitues 23:13:23 <Sacro> for obvious reasons :p 23:13:23 <mikk36> great 23:13:24 <Bjarni> east of the Iron Curtain 23:13:28 <Sacro> :o 23:13:36 <mikk36> wha @ Bjarni 23:13:37 <Sacro> mmm, sexy eastern europeans 23:13:58 <Bjarni> we get flooded with girls from there... illegally, so the police is busy 23:14:06 <mikk36> ur location ? 23:14:13 <mikk36> ahh, denmark :P 23:14:28 <Bjarni> more like "west of the Iron Curtain" 23:14:33 <Sacro> Bjarni: its that one road 23:14:41 <Bjarni> it's an international issue 23:14:43 <mikk36> which point is the "iron curtain" ? 23:14:52 <Sacro> it goes from Estonia through Denmark, past Hull to west coast of UK 23:15:00 <mikk36> "hull2 ? 23:15:02 <mikk36> "hull"* 23:15:18 <Bjarni> Hull is the hellhole that Sacro is living in 23:15:26 <mikk36> which is where ? 23:15:27 <mikk36> uk ? 23:15:28 <Bjarni> it's a city, that's one big ghetto 23:15:44 <Sacro> Bjarni: i dont live there now, but im going to start Uni there in a week 23:15:46 <Bjarni> full of stupid criminals in dept 23:15:51 <Sacro> its not one big ghetto 23:15:57 <mikk36> lol 23:16:05 <Sacro> well... it is 23:16:10 <Sacro> but theres some really nice areas 23:16:33 <mikk36> anyway.. back to my question... problem.. or whatever... have u guys seen "Buffalo Soldiers" ? 23:16:38 <Bjarni> you mean it got areas, where they just take your wallet without harming you? 23:16:46 <Bjarni> mikk36: no 23:17:11 <mikk36> damn.. would've asked if u knew any similar movies 23:17:23 <mikk36> * Bjarni has kicked bobingabout from #openttd (bad nick) 23:17:24 <mikk36> <mikk36> darn stupid bot 23:17:25 <mikk36> damn 23:17:31 <mikk36> stupid Fx 23:17:35 <mikk36> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0252299/ 23:17:38 <Bjarni> well 23:17:55 <Bjarni> go watch The hunt for the Red October 23:18:07 <Bjarni> you should understand it even without subtitles ;) 23:18:19 <mikk36> what language is it in ? 23:18:33 <mikk36> if english, then ofc i don't need subtitles 23:18:40 <Sacro> http://www.bbc.co.uk/humber/content/images/2005/04/06/hull_york_gallery6_470x353.jpg someone is daring 23:18:52 <Sacro> hunt for red october is good 23:19:00 <Bjarni> English/Russian(maybe some Estonian, I don't know those languages) 23:19:00 <Sacro> mikk36: english and russian 23:19:07 <mikk36> uhm, ok 23:19:15 <mikk36> " someone is daring" what do u mean ? 23:19:16 <Sacro> Bjarni: i think its partly ukrainian 23:19:27 <mikk36> the train is facing backwards 23:19:27 <Sacro> mikk36: see the pic 23:19:36 <Sacro> how can a DMU face backwards? 23:19:45 <mikk36> at least it shows u red lights 23:19:51 <mikk36> u don't see red lights on the front side 23:19:59 <Bjarni> not true 23:20:00 <mikk36> right ? 23:20:07 <Bjarni> it can actually show red lights in both ends 23:20:13 <mikk36> well yeah 23:20:22 <Sacro> well, thats the south facing end 23:20:26 <Sacro> its leaving hull :p 23:20:27 <Bjarni> and they can also show 3 white in each end (more common) 23:20:29 <mikk36> but at least in current situation i really don't think it's moving red lights in front 23:20:53 <Sacro> no, thats left platfom 23:20:55 <Bjarni> usually such incidents are due to human errors 23:21:05 <Sacro> its my local station, that one is most likely heading north to scarborough 23:21:43 <Bjarni> what is that grate between the rails? 23:22:05 <Sacro> ive wondered that myself 23:22:22 <mikk36> some sensonr ? 23:22:22 <Bjarni> detector for when the train have left the crossing? 23:22:45 <Sacro> yeah, could be 23:22:53 <Sacro> that picture is taken on the level crossing 23:23:04 <Bjarni> try to notice where the last wheels are when the crossing deactivates 23:24:03 <Sacro> i might 23:24:09 * Bjarni imagines Sacro deciding to wait and watch on the only day ever where that crossing breaks and fails to deactivate 23:24:14 <Bjarni> :P 23:24:16 <Sacro> heh, it happens 23:24:24 <Bjarni> I know 23:24:26 <Sacro> ive been stuck on the wrong side before and its got stuck 23:24:56 <Bjarni> well, bye bye 8 minutes or 10 minutes or whatever the timeout is at your place 23:25:13 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:25:16 <mikk36> ? 23:25:18 <Sacro> ? 23:25:21 <mikk36> lol 23:25:27 <Sacro> ah, for the crossings? 23:25:58 <Bjarni> there is a timeout on the crossing in case the detector breaks, so it can deactivate itself based on a timer to prevent blocking traffic for hours 23:26:18 <Sacro> not here there isnt 23:26:21 <Sacro> they can be down for horus 23:26:44 <Bjarni> the barriers are followers of Horus? 23:27:19 <Sacro> eh? 23:27:26 <Bjarni> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus 23:27:42 <Sacro> i wonder if you could electrify the barriers and ground them through chavs 23:28:03 <Bjarni> ? 23:28:20 <Bjarni> 1: what purpose would that do? 23:28:24 <Bjarni> 2: what are chavs? 23:28:39 <Sacro> chavs are the major population of hull 23:28:51 <Bjarni> ahh 23:29:01 <Sacro> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/darkpowers/chav.jpg 23:29:19 <Bjarni> so using chavs for grounding means easy access to cheap spare parts? 23:29:19 <Sacro> http://www.coolsmartphone.com/images/stories/stupid-chav-twat.jpg 23:29:28 <Sacro> just kills em off really 23:29:42 <Sacro> ooh, spare body parts 23:29:49 <Sacro> that and soylent green for the 3rd world 23:30:14 <Bjarni> you mean you want to put on high voltage to the barriers to kill the people trying to cross when they are down? 23:30:16 <Bjarni> good idea 23:30:41 <Bjarni> bye Sacro, it was nice knowing you 23:30:57 <Sacro> meaning? 23:31:17 <Bjarni> that you will go ahead and touch that barrier to see if it really works 23:31:40 <mikk36> lol 23:31:48 <mikk36> he'll get a friend for that... 23:31:54 <Sacro> ill leave a can of white lightening behind the bars 23:31:58 <Sacro> it'll be too tempting 23:32:01 <mikk36> or better yet, a girlfriend :) 23:32:09 <Bjarni> SACRO GOT A FRIEND??????????????????? 23:32:22 <mikk36> he'll get one just to test the fence 23:32:25 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:32:43 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:32:47 <mikk36> i'm sure he'll get a temporary one with a bottle of whiskey :) 23:33:08 <Sacro> mikk36: nah, not whisky, too expensive 23:33:10 <Bjarni> since it's Hull, a pack of gun will do 23:33:17 <Bjarni> or just a single gum 23:33:19 <Sacro> cheap cider, £1 for 3 litre job 23:33:22 <mikk36> the hard part ofc would be keeping sacro himself sober 23:33:50 <Bjarni> to keep him sober, you need to sober him up first 23:34:03 <Sacro> i have only had 1 shot of vodka this year :| 23:34:17 <mikk36> no shit 23:34:20 <mikk36> i've had 0 23:34:21 <Bjarni> you drink cheap cider 23:34:35 <mikk36> but then again.. i've drunk about 1L whiskey 23:34:44 <mikk36> during a month :) 23:34:48 <Bjarni> you just told the price, hence it's something you know the price of by heart 23:34:49 <mikk36> with friends 23:35:07 <Sacro> i used to work in a supermarket 23:35:13 <mikk36> 1L for me, not for a whole group 23:37:52 <Bjarni> reminds me of a true story I once heard. Some guys spend an evening drinking a bit (not much) and playing cards. All of a sudden one of them dropped and the other ones could not wake him up. They discovered that the vodka bottle (or something similar in strength) was half empty and they had opened it that night and nobody else had taken any of it, so they decided to call the doctor, who said right away "call an ambulance" 23:38:40 <Sacro> heh 23:38:58 <Bjarni> when he graduated, they made a book with remarks for everybody and it said about this guy "(name) is a good driver. Even after drinking half a bottle of vodka can he drive in an ambulance" 23:39:32 <Bjarni> I think he was 17 or something when this happened 23:39:49 <Bjarni> and he was not actually allowed to drink, but that's another story 23:40:53 <Bjarni> but the point is that a group of friends got together and drank just a little bit of mainly beer and all of a sudden it turned out that one of them had been drinking a whole lot of vodka without them noticing it 23:41:18 <mikk36> lol 23:41:22 <mikk36> n1 23:42:03 <mikk36> although.. i would be laying on the floor too if I'd drink half a litre of whiskey :P 23:42:18 <mikk36> laying on the floor complaining about the world spinning around 23:44:39 <Bjarni> <Sacro> i have only had 1 shot of vodka this year :| <-- well, you had 1 more than me 23:44:40 <mikk36> hmm, 50% of "The Shawshank Redemption" done 23:45:18 <Sacro> Bjarni: heh 23:45:32 <Sacro> and that was only cos sophie bullied me on my birthday 23:45:37 <Bjarni> Sacro: and what about beer? 23:45:43 <Sacro> i dont drink beer 23:46:06 <Bjarni> you got bullied on your birthday by one of the guests? 23:46:18 <Sacro> she said i had to have a drink on my birthday 23:46:23 <Sacro> and i fancied her too much to say no 23:46:31 <Bjarni> you had guests on your birthday? 23:46:46 <Sacro> yeah, went to pub 23:47:02 <Bjarni> did you screw afterwards? 23:47:15 <Sacro> i wish 23:47:26 <mikk36> <Sacro> and i fancied her too much to say no <-- no more ? 23:47:42 <mikk36> i mean, not any more ? 23:47:45 <Bjarni> no, because they didn't sleep together 23:47:57 <mikk36> lol 23:48:02 <Bjarni> or maybe she learned the true nature of Sacro 23:48:11 <mikk36> which is? 23:48:18 <mikk36> hehe 23:48:18 <Bjarni> being Sacro 23:48:25 <Bjarni> actually I wonder 23:48:31 <Sacro> i think she does like me 23:48:35 <mikk36> sacro drank too much and revieled his nature :D 23:48:46 <Sacro> she drank a lot more than i did 23:48:52 <Bjarni> Sacro: you failed to get laid in the city where it's impossible to find a virgin at the age of 12? 23:48:54 <Sacro> which is why i didnt try anything 23:48:56 <mikk36> but she's sophie 23:48:59 <mikk36> and u're sacro 23:49:08 <Sacro> Bjarni: no, im in Beverley, thats in Hull 23:49:28 <Sacro> where the girls go out wearing knickers 23:49:40 <Sacro> (in beverley, not in Hull) 23:50:42 <mikk36> lol 23:53:10 <Bjarni> knickers are like the paper around gifts: meant to be removed 23:53:37 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@p54B360AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^zZz] 23:53:38 <Sacro> heh 23:54:14 *** Progman [~progman@p5091CDAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:56:29 <mikk36> hmm.. 23:56:37 * mikk36 is still listening to the same thing :P 23:56:38 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:56:38 * mikk36 np: Ministry of Sound - Chillout Mix Liquid Acid [46:56/69:37] 160kbps - 44Khz 23:57:53 <Sacro> lol 23:58:03 * Sacro is watching: American Beauty 23:58:45 *** Spoco- [Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit []