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00:27:44  <CIA-2> glx * r6633 /trunk/ (genworld_gui.c intro_gui.c): -Fix r6631: climate selector now shows the current selected climate (and only this one)
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00:51:15  <CIA-2> belugas * r6634 /trunk/vehicle_gui.c:
00:51:15  <CIA-2> -Fix(r6377): Do not change a widget state after a DrawWindowWidgets, as it is a bit useless
00:51:15  <CIA-2> -Fix(r6562): Use the correct widget index for enabling
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01:08:32  <CIA-2> glx * r6635 /trunk/vehicle_gui.c: -Fix r6634: incomplete/incorrect assignment
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07:10:39  <CIA-2> miham * r6636 /trunk/lang/ (french.txt icelandic.txt):
07:10:39  <CIA-2> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-10-04 09:10:08
07:10:39  <CIA-2> french - 24 changed by glx (24)
07:10:39  <CIA-2> icelandic - 6 changed by scrooge (6)
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08:05:54  <peter1138> it's oh so quiet, ssssh ssssh
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10:27:10  <TrueLight> Hi all! A moment ago torrent related material was updated to a new location. It might be that for an hour you have problems reaching it
10:27:17  <TrueLight> if it takes longer then an hour, blame your broken ISP DNS server
10:27:21  <TrueLight> that was all ;)
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10:34:53  <Jhs> (i'll ask again today...) is the strings from STR_4802_COAL_MINE the ones appended to a city name to form an industry name?
10:35:20  <Jhs> s/is/are
10:35:36  <Bjarni> most likely
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10:38:24  <Jhs> OK
10:38:27  <Jhs> ty
10:38:57  <Bjarni> well, I didn't check, but odds are that it works that way
10:39:05  <Bjarni> I mean, how else should it work ;)
10:39:36  <hylje> by magic and sometimes clauses
10:39:53  <Bjarni> it have to read the town name and then the industry name to merge them into a displayable string. We can't make a string for each town name ;)
10:40:08  <Jhs> well, this is the second string set i have found that have those words in them; someone said the first string set was for the scenario builder, so...
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10:45:32  <Bjarni> hmm
10:45:54  <Bjarni> we got identically strings for different purposes?
10:46:17  <Bjarni> also there is a perfectly easy way to make sure: look in the source code ;)
10:46:56  <hylje> rtfs
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10:58:56  <peter1138> Bjarni: yes
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11:39:21  <peter1138> hmm
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12:00:54  <jhs> Bjarni: (sorry, was away) actually, in Norwegian they shouldn't be identical - Norwegian doesn't have the Capital Decease(TM) that English has, so one of the string sets shouldn't start with a capital letter. but in order to fix it, i have to find out which string set, which is easier said than done
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12:02:02  <peter1138> ...
12:02:05  <CIA-2> bjarni * r6637 /trunk/ (10 files):
12:02:05  <CIA-2> -Codechange: merged all (vehicle type)EnterDepot into VehicleEnterDepot()
12:02:05  <CIA-2>  This revealed duplicated code like aircraft lists got invalidated twice
12:02:05  <CIA-2>  Moved invalidation of the vehicle detail window to VehicleServiceInDepot() as it should always be updated when serviced
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13:46:14  <hylje> liek zomg
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15:33:02  <[Surge]> I hope someone is working on some anti-cheat stuff for multiplayer like limiting how much dirt someone can move in a given time span.
15:33:29  <[Surge]> I was in a game just now and some idiot just lowered all the terrain to sea level ...
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15:35:30  <hylje> :D
15:35:37  <Born_Acorn> How uncool.
15:37:26  <ln-> hmmm, it would make sense that stuff that is removed somewhere has to be dumped somewhere else.
15:37:53  <hylje> hmm :)
15:38:38  <ln-> and also, raising land has to mean it is taken from somewhere.
15:38:47  <peter1138> it's not exactly *cheating*
15:38:57  <peter1138> unless the cost is wrong
15:39:19  <peter1138> ln-: that ideas floated around for yonks
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15:51:31  <[Surge]> Maybe there should be a vote option to kick misbehaving players.
15:51:40  <ln-> what's up with ludde's idea of teleportation of trains?
15:52:30  <Born_Acorn> I would vote for that, [Surge]. :p
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15:53:10  <[Surge]> It works fine on other games but there they have accounts which we don't have yet.
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16:55:49  <Eddi|zuHause2> something looks broken...
16:55:59  <Eddi|zuHause2> i have a train with 2 passenger and one mail wagon
16:56:24  <Eddi|zuHause2> and suddenly at the station there are 8 passengers and 160 bags of mail waiting
16:56:45  <Eddi|zuHause2> that ratio does not make any sense...
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17:05:03  <Wolf01> hi
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17:09:21  <CIA-2> bjarni * r6638 /trunk/vehicle_gui.c: -Fix r5652: restored each vehicle list type to their type classes, so it's possible to redraw all lists of one vehicle type again (instead of all types)
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17:30:39  <[Surge]> Eddi|zuHause2: Uh ... you're not picking up enough mail?
17:31:06  <Eddi|zuHause2> [Surge]: no, rahter it generates too much mail (in comparison to passengers)
17:31:25  <[Surge]> Yeah they're almost equal on big cities
17:31:35  <Eddi|zuHause2> the population is 600
17:31:52  <Eddi|zuHause2> or 150 on the other end, with similar ratio
17:32:06  <Eddi|zuHause2> 4 passengers and 30 mail
17:32:36  <Eddi|zuHause2> i'm just thinking if it could be local changes, but i do not find any reason for that..
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19:11:48  <CIA-2> belugas * r6639 /trunk/ (8 files): -CodeChange : Conversion of SetWidgetLoweredState to SetWindowWidgetLoweredState, in order to follow pre-established standard
19:15:27  <CIA-2> bjarni * r6640 /trunk/vehicle.c:
19:15:27  <CIA-2> -Fix: [autoreplace] autoreplace can now use the money for selling the old vehicle to build the new one
19:15:27  <CIA-2>  Say we got 40k for selling the old one and the new one costs 60k, then the player only needs 20k to replace
19:15:27  <CIA-2>  The new engine is still built before selling the old one for various reasons, but now the player gets a loan
19:15:27  <CIA-2>  of the sell value, which is always repaid when replace fails or the old engine is sold. The player will never notice this loan.
19:15:34  <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: this one was for you
19:16:00  <Bjarni> and everybody else ;)
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19:19:24  <Sacro> Bjarni: wooyay
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19:28:00  <CIA-2> belugas * r6641 /trunk/genworld_gui.c: -Fix(6639): Wongly converted SetWidgetLoweredState
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20:07:33  <chu_> hi. where is SetWidgetLoweredState()?
20:07:47  <glx> chu_: nowhere :)
20:07:50  <chu_> the current svn version seems not to compile
20:08:10  <glx> known :) we are fixing it right now
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20:08:40  <chu_> ok. that's fine
20:09:27  <Bjarni> chu_: sometimes we screw up, but we tend to fix such issues ASAP
20:09:47  <Bjarni> the trunk is defined as unstable. Sometimes that's more true than others ;)
20:09:54  <glx> anyway we have till next nightly to do so :)
20:10:06  <Bjarni> yeah
20:10:21  <Bjarni> we didn't break it until after the nightly tonight
20:10:57  <chu_> i am used to compile before svn commit ;-)
20:11:40  <chu_> but i am sure, you will fix it soon. just don't panic
20:11:45  <Bjarni> same here, but sometimes we screw up anyway and some issues (not this one) are related to different OSes
20:12:53  <CIA-2> glx * r6642 /trunk/window.h: -Fix r6639: 2 conversions missed
20:13:06  <glx> chu_: now it compiles :)
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20:16:39  <chu_> station_cmd.c:2363: DestroyRoadStop: Assertion `rs->num_vehicles == 0' failed.
20:16:40  <chu_> tststs
20:17:02  <chu_> seems to be a savegame-problem. my savegame is rather old
20:17:29  <Bjarni> upload it in a bug report on bugs.openttd.org
20:17:41  <Bjarni> it should be able to load really old savegames
20:17:54  <hylje> ive had that assert
20:18:01  <chu_> including the savegame?
20:18:02  <Bjarni> in fact it should be able to load savegames with any of the releases
20:18:12  <yanek> blah, i have same problem :-)
20:18:13  <Bjarni> yeah
20:18:37  <Bjarni> we need the savegame to reproduce it ;)
20:19:10  <yanek> http://x.anise.cz/oink.sav
20:19:10  <yanek> :)
20:19:25  <Bjarni> make a bug report
20:19:31  <Bjarni> I'm not going to look at it right now
20:19:47  <yanek> bug report, there is nothing more
20:21:21  <glx> yanek: post your problem on http://bugs.openttd.org so when we'll have time to look, we'll have all we need :)
20:23:15  <yanek> i have problem, my problem is called "bugzilla" :)
20:23:39  <Sacro> eh?
20:24:04  <yanek> and others of course
20:25:07  <chu_> am i blind or why can i not attach files to your bugtracker?
20:25:21  <glx> chu_: are you logged ?
20:25:36  <chu_> glx: ehm no...
20:26:33  <chu_> and i iirc i do not have an account yet...
20:26:44  <glx> create one
20:27:27  <chu_> Notice: Undefined variable: register_text in /www/openttd.org/bugs/scripts/modify.php on line 607
20:27:30  <chu_> Notice: Undefined index: project_title in /www/openttd.org/bugs/scripts/modify.php on line 607
20:27:53  <chu_> your bugtracker has bugs
20:28:00  <chu_> where is the bugtracker for the bugtracker?
20:28:10  <chu_> (and when do bugs become recursive?)
20:28:34  <Bjarni> oh crap
20:28:52  <hylje> meta-bugs!
20:29:13  <chu_> it did not send me a notification via jabber
20:29:21  <chu_> so i went back and changed to e-mail
20:29:29  <chu_> now i get this error too
20:29:30  <chu_> Notice: Undefined index: flyspray_userid in /www/openttd.org/bugs/includes/notify.inc.php on line 264
20:29:41  <Bjarni> jabber is not supported
20:29:52  * Bjarni wonders why the jabber thing is still displayed
20:30:15  <chu_> a indeed?
20:30:38  <chu_> my email-provider is using graylisting... 15 min timeout...
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20:55:27  <Frostregen> hmm, the way to "UnclickSomeWindowButtons()" changed to calling RaiseWindowWidget() for every Widget. Is this correct?
20:56:22  <Belugas> yes it is, Frostregen
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20:56:42  <Belugas> it is a result of the XTDWidget branch almost merged
20:56:47  <Frostregen> thx
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21:02:03  <chu_> the bugtracker did not send me an code-mail. please delete FS#358 because without a login i cannot attach a savegame
21:02:36  <chu_> see you
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21:02:39  <glx> chu_: can you upload it somewhere so I attach it?
21:02:48  <glx> too late again
21:03:13  <Bjarni> hmm
21:03:40  <Bjarni> also I can make accounts if the mailing system fails
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21:03:59  <Belugas_Gone> bye
21:04:01  <Belugas_Gone> goner
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21:48:18  <Wolf01> 'night all
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23:37:07  <Serriaromeo> question,  which file in teh source controls the screen that has the new game options on it?
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23:37:44  <glx> new game options ?
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23:38:30  <glx> the window that appears when you click on "new game" ?
23:38:35  <Serriaromeo> right
23:39:05  <Eddi|zuHause2> the file formerly known as tgp_gui.c
23:39:31  <glx> genworld_gui.c
23:39:42  <Eddi|zuHause2> sounds right
23:41:09  <Serriaromeo> thanks
23:41:42  <Serriaromeo> i'm trying to figure out if i can do a patch for the random landscape settings
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