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00:06:40 <Sacro> night all 00:09:44 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-211-161.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:16:03 *** amix [~AmiXoamip@202.80-203-43.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 00:16:13 <amix> hmm.. 00:16:22 <amix> the osx version of openttd is really unstable 00:16:41 <amix> and if in fullscreen, it can force you to cold boot even 00:17:10 <amix> because there is no way getting back to macosx desktop screen if the game hang 00:17:24 *** lws1984 is now known as lws|Away 00:17:27 <lws|Away> amix: yes there is 00:17:31 <lws|Away> opt-cmd-esc! 00:17:43 <Sionide> if you ask me, that's an osx problem.. 00:18:00 <Sionide> ctrl+alt+f1 / killall openttd 00:18:02 <amix> opt-cmd-esc? 00:18:16 <amix> ohh 00:18:29 <amix> hmm 00:20:49 <ln-> amix: there's a patch. 00:21:18 <amix> oki? 00:22:23 <ln-> patch that makes ottd use Cocoa for drawing on screen, and a side effect of that is that one can e.g. apple-tab out of the fullscreen. 00:22:49 <amix> great 00:23:02 <amix> i find the morphos version of openttd the most stable one 00:23:18 <amix> and thats not a propaganda statement. its a fact. 00:23:27 <ln-> the Cocoa patch may slow down graphics a little, but not very noticeably in my experience. 00:23:40 <amix> ahh 00:24:50 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust184.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: /quit] 00:26:38 <amix> url? 00:28:03 <ln-> http://bebis.csbnet.se/~blackis/quartzVideo6.diff 00:28:35 <amix> well a download link? 00:28:36 <amix> :D 00:29:01 <ln-> for the patched binary? ... i don't think there's one online. 00:29:21 <amix> oki 00:39:59 *** lws|Away is now known as lws1984 00:48:05 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:48:33 *** lws1984 [~lwslade@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 01:00:27 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p54B375F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:05:57 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B3756D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:37:01 *** amix [~AmiXoamip@202.80-203-43.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:45:02 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 01:49:27 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:49:40 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 02:17:32 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 02:22:27 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:27:02 <LSky`> bedtime! 02:27:42 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:27:50 *** LSky` [~hixscript@cc103898-a.roden1.dr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: [ HIX-Script v2.2 ]:::[ Download from ]:::[ www.rupertonline.ca/hix/ ]:::[] 02:31:20 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B758A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:37:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7702F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:05:10 *** lws1984 [~lwslade@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Sleep is for the wicked. And I've done worse sins than this!] 03:06:59 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 03:37:47 *** Progman [~progman@p5091E703.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:50:19 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F564.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:02:31 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.220.79] has joined #openttd 04:06:23 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:08:53 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.220.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:10:57 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 05:20:32 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 05:29:37 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F564.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 05:31:24 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:49:51 <CIA-1> miham * r6939 /trunk/lang/ (10 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 05:49:51 <CIA-1> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-10-25 07:48:50 05:49:51 <CIA-1> american - 3 fixed by WhiteRabbit (3) 05:49:51 <CIA-1> brazilian_portuguese - 3 fixed by tucalipe (3) 05:49:51 <CIA-1> bulgarian - 7 fixed, 2 changed by groupsky (9) 05:49:52 <CIA-1> catalan - 1 fixed by arnaullv (1) 05:49:52 <CIA-1> dutch - 3 fixed by webfreakz (3) 06:11:54 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:34:54 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 06:39:47 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:39:57 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 07:04:54 <Celestar> morning 07:16:46 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2D259.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:18:49 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CE6A.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 07:19:00 *** dp-_ [~dp@p54B2F303.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:20:15 <Celestar> people I need testing of the bridge branch 07:25:52 <Tobin> Anything in particular? 07:26:01 <Tobin> Or just general testing? 07:26:28 <Tobin> As far as I can tell it's been "OK" for a while now. 07:27:03 <Celestar> Tobin: general testing, report any problem that needs fixing 07:43:43 <Darkvater> morning 07:44:05 <Celestar> hi Darkvater 07:44:12 <Celestar> hows life? 07:44:32 <CIA-1> celestar * r6940 /branches/bridge/ (98 files in 6 dirs): [bridge] - Sync with r6849:6939 from trunk 07:45:27 *** Nigel_ [~Nigel@202-154-144-216.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:45:41 <Darkvater> *ywan* 07:45:42 <Darkvater> :) 07:46:08 *** Nigel_ [~Nigel@202-154-144-216.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 07:46:44 <Darkvater> I thought OSX was good since the coca driver has been added 07:46:50 <Darkvater> why does it still suck? 07:48:23 <peter1138> hmm? 07:49:09 <Darkvater> 02:17 < amix> the osx version of openttd is really unstable 07:49:10 <Darkvater> 02:17 < amix> and if in fullscreen, it can force you to cold boot even 07:49:10 <Darkvater> 02:17 < amix> because there is no way getting back to macosx desktop screen if the game hang 07:49:22 <Darkvater> 02:22 < ln-> patch that makes ottd use Cocoa for drawing on screen, and a side effect of that is that one can e.g. apple-tab out of the fullscreen. 07:49:26 <Darkvater> 02:28 < ln-> http://bebis.csbnet.se/~blackis/quartzVideo6.diff 07:49:41 * Darkvater shoots bjarni 07:49:47 <Darkvater> why does he keep asserting mallocs? 07:50:27 <peter1138> in case they fail? 07:51:10 <Darkvater> that's why you error() out normally 07:51:27 <Darkvater> asserting allocs is stupid, especially if you disable asserts 07:51:44 <peter1138> true 07:58:39 *** LSky` [~hixscript@cc103898-a.roden1.dr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 07:58:46 <LSky`> morning 07:58:51 <peter1138> hiya 07:59:03 <peter1138> did he eventually manage that bridge? heh 07:59:21 <LSky`> what bridge? 07:59:24 <LSky`> oh 07:59:33 <LSky`> lets take a look =) 07:59:44 <LSky`> i kinda went on playing for 4 more hours 08:00:05 <peter1138> heh, no he didn't :) 08:00:32 <peter1138> hmm 08:00:36 <peter1138> desynced :/ 08:00:57 <LSky`> I CANT JOIN :| 08:01:00 <LSky`> caps 08:01:04 <LSky`> I can't join :\ 08:01:10 <peter1138> strnage 08:01:17 <peter1138> you've not changed your config i presume 08:01:18 <LSky`> instant kick/desync/whatever 08:01:21 <LSky`> nope 08:01:29 <LSky`> we had desyncs last night too 08:01:39 <Darkvater> I think we've hit the desync problem 08:01:42 <Darkvater> restart server :) 08:01:43 <peter1138> hmm, ok 08:01:52 <peter1138> no, i'm going to dump the vehicle data first 08:01:57 <peter1138> it probably won't be that, but... 08:02:20 <roboboy> is it the usual desynch problem 08:02:23 <Darkvater> why do you think it's the vehicle data? Couldn't it be _m[] or industries/towns? 08:02:48 <Darkvater> custom names? stations? yapf? 08:03:17 <Darkvater> and you won't even find it if the change occured due to a buffer overflow :( 08:03:36 <peter1138> hmm, it only desyncs lsky... 08:03:50 <LSky`> theres quite a few road vehicles :p 08:03:57 <peter1138> Darkvater: it was just somewhere to start 08:04:11 <peter1138> assuming stations are the same, there's not really anything to desync 08:04:22 <peter1138> well, except those buffer stops 08:04:23 <peter1138> hmm 08:04:50 <Darkvater> Celestar-style :) 08:04:57 <peter1138> 3 KB difference in the dump 08:05:07 <peter1138> hmm? 08:05:39 <peter1138> Darkvater: question is, will next_hash being different break things? 08:05:51 <peter1138> i think it shouldn't because it'll always have been different 08:05:58 <LSky`> hey peter1138 08:06:03 <LSky`> the graphics are different 08:06:21 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C586.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:06:38 <peter1138> hmm? 08:06:44 <LSky`> the graphics are different! 08:06:58 <Darkvater> shouldn't the vehicle hash be the same on all clients? 08:07:09 <peter1138> Darkvater: i would've thought so, but it's not 08:07:15 <LSky`> i haven't touched my config file 08:07:26 <LSky`> yet i see no custom road vehicles 08:07:31 <peter1138> hmm 08:07:51 <peter1138> i do 08:08:21 <LSky`> yea me too now 08:08:26 <LSky`> i think i found the problem 08:08:37 <LSky`> i started the wrong r6828 :p 08:08:48 <Darkvater> :O 08:08:50 * LSky` bangs head to the wall 08:08:55 * Darkvater slaps LSky` 08:08:58 <LSky`> =( 08:09:11 <roboboy> was it a different grf config 08:09:17 <LSky`> yea 08:09:18 <roboboy> or game config 08:09:23 <roboboy> heh 08:09:24 <LSky`> grf xD 08:09:27 <roboboy> silly you 08:09:38 <LSky`> i install every single build into a new folder 08:09:45 <LSky`> but i got an extra one for peters server 08:09:56 <LSky`> messed up the shortcuts =\ 08:09:58 <roboboy> heh 08:10:21 <peter1138> d'oh 08:10:35 <roboboy> did you mess them up or your OS 08:10:36 <Celestar> yes? 08:10:38 <LSky`> and no peter1138 , he didn't manage to build that bridge 08:10:45 <LSky`> i messed them up roboboy 08:10:49 <roboboy> ok 08:10:56 <LSky`> i just forgot to make a second shortcut 08:11:01 <roboboy> ah 08:11:02 <LSky`> so i just started the r6928 one 08:11:23 <LSky`> but it's so early the morning :( 08:11:34 <LSky`> i woke up 14 minutes ago 08:11:41 <peter1138> ahh 08:11:41 <roboboy> peter whyd you go back to peter1138 on Quakenet 08:11:48 <Celestar> peter1138: you got a sec? 08:11:51 <peter1138> 09:00 -!- LSky` [~hixscript@cc103898-a.roden1.dr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 08:11:56 <peter1138> i like that kind of dedication :) 08:12:03 <peter1138> Celestar: plenty 08:12:07 <LSky`> yea i continued till 4:15AM 08:12:10 <Celestar> no work? :P 08:12:12 <LSky`> thta wasn't very smart 08:12:13 <peter1138> no boss ;P 08:12:30 <Celestar> lol 08:12:45 <Celestar> I'm going to have a discussion with my boss about a raise soon 08:14:09 <LSky`> Is YAPF enabled for ships on your server peter1138 ? 08:14:13 <peter1138> no 08:14:50 <peter1138> can't play atm :( 08:14:59 <peter1138> not least because running a server and client on the same machine sucks 08:15:14 <peter1138> and the client is over remote X 08:15:23 <LSky`> yea i got this small laptop as a server 08:15:39 <peter1138> i could get a windows build and use that 08:15:41 <LSky`> 88Mhz 08:15:45 <peter1138> ouch 08:15:46 <LSky`> 800* 08:15:48 <peter1138> ahh 08:17:37 <LSky`> i did desync there tho 08:17:42 <peter1138> o_O 08:20:39 <Darkvater> Celestar: you should ask more often ^^ 08:21:02 <Darkvater> peter1138: did you add some console cmd to dump the vehicle state? 08:21:10 <peter1138> yes 08:25:35 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C586.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 08:26:11 <LSky`> peter1138 , notice the funded oil refinery xD 08:27:12 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DE14.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:27:24 <peter1138> oh, yeah 08:27:37 <peter1138> Darkvater: we need to do something about the lack of oil refineries with TGP 08:27:48 *** Tron_ [to8kFbBI@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 08:27:55 <peter1138> also... "Mightymover Choo-Choo"? http://wiki.openttd.org/images/f/fa/Autoreplace.png 08:27:57 <roboboy> how big is the map when downloaded for mp 08:28:07 <peter1138> how big? 256x256 08:28:19 <peter1138> if you mean the filesize, it's the same as a savegame 08:28:20 <roboboy> yeah whatever yours is 08:28:25 <roboboy> ok 08:28:41 <peter1138> currently 170KB 08:28:51 <Darkvater> peter1138: not enough? 08:28:54 <Darkvater> morning Tron_ 08:28:55 <roboboy> just wondering if it might be eating a bigish part of my download limit up 08:29:07 <peter1138> what do you mean? 08:29:11 <Tron_> morning 08:29:16 <peter1138> roboboy: if you keep reconnecting, might do 08:29:21 <LSky`> perhaps make it so that the land is generated a little closer to the edge of the map? 08:29:40 <peter1138> problem is all the hills get in the way 08:30:01 <roboboy> yeah peter1138 08:30:06 <roboboy> to both things 08:30:09 * roboboy tv 08:30:13 <Darkvater> peter1138: I mean tgp doesn't make enough oil refineries? 08:30:37 <peter1138> Darkvater: usually you don't get any 08:32:31 <Darkvater> ah 08:32:35 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i5387C57A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:32:39 <Darkvater> Rubidium: oil refineris :) 08:35:17 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DE14.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:35:29 <LSky`> i think there should be something done about the city growth 08:35:36 <LSky`> if that's not already happening 08:35:59 <LSky`> the game started in 1920 , and in 1954 there are already cities of 10,000+ people 08:36:13 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84534.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:36:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 08:37:02 <LSky`> already 2700 citizens per city averaged 08:37:10 <peter1138> it's a bit fast 08:37:28 <LSky`> where half isn't even connected 08:45:10 <LSky`> can anyone point me into the right direction for the oil rig GRF in this screenshot: ( http://forums.ttdrussia.net/files/32bpp_130.png ) 08:45:25 <Celestar> erm 08:45:41 <Celestar> it still grows only at 1% of the rate of Locomotion 08:45:42 <Celestar> :P 08:45:45 <Celestar> cities I mean 08:45:49 <Celestar> BAH 08:45:56 <Celestar> people SUCK 08:46:32 <Celestar> they boot the comps, comp complains about a file system. "Please login as root and check the filesystem /yada/dada" Whats so difficult about DOING SO? 08:46:45 <Celestar> no, they run into my office and ask for help 08:47:11 <Prof_Frink> do they have the root password? 08:47:40 <Celestar> yes 08:47:56 <Celestar> they also know what "fsck" is 08:48:44 <Prof_Frink> It's what they should do off. 08:49:11 <Celestar> yeah 08:50:29 <peter1138> ok, so still desyncing :/ 08:51:42 <LSky`> yea 08:51:50 <Celestar> trunk? 08:52:07 <LSky`> this time not because of the GRFs 08:52:42 <peter1138> well, not because of different GRFs 08:53:04 <peter1138> Celestar: yes 08:53:10 <Celestar> peter1138: eek 08:53:59 <peter1138> these are of the save-and-reload-fixes-it variety 08:54:17 *** Nigel_ is now known as Nigel 08:54:57 <LSky`> well 08:55:06 <LSky`> obviously theres something wrong 09:01:42 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84534.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 09:02:08 <Celestar> well do a random debugging 09:02:55 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 09:02:55 <peter1138> hmm 09:08:42 <LSky`> peter1138 , autorenew vehicles isn't on either huh? 09:09:15 <peter1138> that's a user option ) 09:10:09 <LSky`> :O 09:10:34 <LSky`> i thought that was called auto replace 09:10:37 <LSky`> not auto renew 09:13:10 <LSky`> hmmm 09:13:10 <peter1138> auto renew = auto replace to the same vehicle type :) 09:13:28 <peter1138> possibly 09:13:29 <LSky`> airplanes dont finish their takeoff if you delete the airport 09:14:03 <LSky`> and i cant auto-replace vehicles to the same type :\ 09:14:31 <peter1138> just enable auto renew in the patches 09:15:09 <LSky`> another thing 09:15:19 <LSky`> the options are a bit messed up for client and serverside 09:15:31 <LSky`> there not really ordered :\ 09:16:34 <LSky`> peter1138 , could you save/reload the game please, the desyncs are getting a bit annoying 09:16:46 <peter1138> done 09:17:38 <Darkvater> LSky`: they have exactly the same order 09:18:27 <LSky`> what i meant to say was, client options are in the same menu as server options 09:18:37 <LSky`> in the same "vehicles" tab for example 09:18:42 <Darkvater> yes? 09:18:58 <LSky`> well thats a bit confusing 09:19:32 *** mikl [~mikl@port283.ds1-hl.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 09:19:58 <LSky`> thanks peter1138 for the save/reload , i should mention tho that it automatically deletes the passwords for all companies, i dont know if that's a known bug? 09:20:10 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:22:52 <peter1138> they're not saved 09:22:54 <peter1138> so yes, it does 09:26:31 <LSky`> well is that "working as intended" ? 09:26:32 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:26:52 <peter1138> yes 09:31:29 <LSky`> ah, a new plane i can waste my money on 09:33:21 *** mikl [~mikl@port283.ds1-hl.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:33:32 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-142-235.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:35:03 <LSky`> peter1138 , how about you can place infrastructure on top of a tunnel entrance 09:36:23 <LSky`> just as land gets reinforced if you build it on a slope 09:37:57 <peter1138> that breaks the visual hack going on with them 09:38:40 <Prof_Frink> LSky`: --> TTDPatch ;) 09:38:52 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-149-019.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:39:08 <LSky`> hmmm 09:39:12 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 09:45:05 <LSky`> peter1138 , sorry that i keep bugging you, but what set do those trucks belong to? 09:45:57 <peter1138> pb_hovs 09:46:13 <LSky`> okay thanks 09:51:00 <LSky`> hmmm, i cant seem to find any thread/website about that set 09:51:22 <peter1138> nope, it's a prerelease 09:51:34 <LSky`> hmm 09:51:46 <peter1138> http://www.pikkarail.com/ttdp/secret/hovsplan.htm 09:55:59 * Darkvater DOES hate excel 09:56:00 <Darkvater> dammit 09:56:21 <peter1138> 2007 sucks, heh 09:56:29 <Darkvater> 2000 sucks :( 09:56:51 <Darkvater> I can't normally copy&paste an excel graph into powerpoint without either of the following happening: 09:56:55 <Darkvater> 1. layout gets fucked up 09:57:04 <Darkvater> 2. excel decides it wants to crash 09:57:12 <smeding> it's Microsoft apps. 09:57:15 <Darkvater> 3. powerpoint decides it cannot edit the graph and reinstalls itself 09:57:25 <Darkvater> 4. my graph looks totally different 09:57:39 <Darkvater> so I just started pasting the graphs as bitmaps 09:57:48 <Darkvater> sooo gay....soooo gay 10:00:32 <Darkvater> and which idiot decided that if I want to *insert* headers/footers I should go to the 'view' menu instead of 'insert' huh? 10:00:46 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]] 10:01:14 <Darkvater> apparently somebody at Msucks thought it is very stupid as well and each time you click on insert>header/footer you get an annoying popup if you didn't mean view>header/footer 10:01:14 <peter1138> what? 10:01:17 <Darkvater> gaaah 10:01:46 <smeding> Darkvater is bitching about powerpoint, peter1138 :> 10:02:08 <Darkvater> I can have a go at the whole office suit if you'd like :) 10:02:20 <Darkvater> suite 10:02:24 <peter1138> bored now 10:02:42 <peter1138> maybe i should do some work 10:03:05 <Darkvater> gogo utf :> 10:04:12 <Darkvater> did you know that if you paste an excel object into ppt/word it copies the whole damn file with it? every single sheet? 10:04:15 <Darkvater> it's madness I tell you 10:04:45 <peter1138> merge utf8 did you say? 10:05:23 <Darkvater> it's done? 10:05:28 <Darkvater> sweet holy mary of god! 10:05:32 <Darkvater> sacrifice a lamb!! 10:05:56 <peter1138> it's not merged, no ;p 10:06:08 <peter1138> nor have i done the savegame bump. hmm. 10:07:59 *** Belugas [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:10:46 <Darkvater> he 10:10:50 <Darkvater> you need a bump for utf? 10:11:51 <peter1138> need to convert existing custom names from latin15 to utf8 10:13:11 <peter1138> or just ignore them 10:13:55 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 10:13:58 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 10:14:03 <Darkvater> aah ic 10:14:05 <Darkvater> bb soon 10:16:11 <peter1138> miniin is going to love this scrollbar stuff :D 10:25:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:28:55 *** Mucht|work [~mucht@p57A0D816.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:50:41 <CIA-1> peter1138 * r6941 /branches/utf8/ (78 files in 5 dirs): [utf8] - Sync with r6901:r6940 from trunk 10:58:32 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-216.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:01:34 <peter1138> woo, it built 11:02:30 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-216.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 11:04:47 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:05:15 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:06:26 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/dynscroll2.diff 11:08:45 <peter1138> hmm, fux0red 11:09:11 * peter1138 fix0rs 11:14:35 <Darkvater> haha 11:14:49 <Darkvater> miniin's kinda fucked with all the changes recently 11:15:27 <Darkvater> http://fuzzle.org/o/dynscroll2.diff << page not found peter1138 11:15:49 <Celestar> back 11:15:57 <peter1138> yeah, i removed it 11:20:13 <Tobin> Has KUDr been doing any PBS stuff? 11:20:26 <Tobin> The branch hasn't been touched in a long time. 11:21:20 * Tobin pokes about the svn repo 11:21:48 <Tobin> The 32bpp sprite-loader has been started? Niftyness. 11:22:54 <Tobin> This is why one needs to take breaks from keeping up with things. It makes lots of small steps look like a single massive one. :) 11:29:19 <Celestar> :) 11:30:29 <roboboy> gnight 11:33:10 <peter1138> Darkvater: it's back 11:33:11 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33:11 *** egladil [~egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33:50 <Tobin> Poor little MiniIN. 11:34:09 <peter1138> "Hardware is too bad. I got an AMD Sempron 2 GHZ processor with 512 MB RAM and thats simply not enough for OpenTTD." 11:34:12 <peter1138> hah 11:34:20 <Tobin> Who would have thought cramming all those patches in together might get tricky to manage later on? 11:34:30 <Tobin> Hehe. 11:34:43 <LSky`> hmmm 11:34:55 *** egladil [~egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 11:34:56 <LSky`> pb_hovs looks nice, but it needs updates like very 20 years 11:35:00 <LSky`> every* 11:35:24 <peter1138> well, it's not finished :) 11:35:35 <LSky`> where do the updates stop :p 11:35:44 <LSky`> its 1967 now 11:35:53 <LSky`> and i have 25 year old mail trucks driving around 11:36:03 <peter1138> that's all for now 11:36:08 <peter1138> you get more buses later 11:36:12 <peter1138> but no trucks 11:36:16 <Darkvater> ok, let's have a look at that patch 11:36:28 <peter1138> bit big :( 11:36:37 <Darkvater> eek! 11:36:43 <LSky`> damn :( 11:36:55 <LSky`> ah well 11:37:04 <Darkvater> hmm I wonder... 11:37:16 <LSky`> its still is a bit crucial to know considering there are over 400 road vehicles on that map now 11:37:19 <Darkvater> sadly we don't have the notion of a scrollbar belonging to a certain widget 11:37:28 <peter1138> newp 11:37:34 *** egladil [~egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:38:09 <Darkvater> peter1138: I think some dust got into your diff (vehicle.c) 11:38:28 <peter1138> hm, so it did ;p 11:39:05 <peter1138> not any more ;p 11:39:05 *** egladil [~egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 11:39:08 <Darkvater> what is _cur_scrollbar for? 11:39:14 * Darkvater is not going to refresh ^^ 11:39:39 <peter1138> um, can't remember? :p 11:39:51 <Darkvater> :) 11:39:54 <Darkvater> you added it 11:40:49 <peter1138> ah, to remember what scrollbar was clicked 11:40:51 <peter1138> bit hacky 11:40:57 <peter1138> it did use flags in w->flags4 11:42:16 <Darkvater> so better to add a global? 11:43:11 <Darkvater> aircraft_gui.c? funny ;p 11:48:35 <Darkvater> hmm 11:48:45 <Darkvater> adding a VARDEF is a major downer 11:52:27 <LSky`> what??? only 120 passengers in a boeing 737 =( 11:52:36 <LSky`> thats a nice waste of money 11:53:01 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-211-161.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:55:53 <Celestar> LSky`: ?? 11:56:14 <LSky`> the Aviators Aircraft Boeing 737 11:56:19 <Celestar> yeah 11:56:26 <LSky`> only 120 passengers in the 737 11:56:31 <LSky`> whereas the 707 can hold 200 11:56:41 <Celestar> yeah 11:56:44 <LSky`> the running costs are half yes 11:56:47 <Celestar> which is about realistic 11:56:57 <Celestar> (at least for the early 37s) 11:57:01 <LSky`> hmmm kinda depends on the type 737 its say 11:57:13 <Celestar> well 11:57:29 <Celestar> not counting the "big ones", i.e. -400, -800, -900 11:57:45 <Celestar> hmpf 11:58:00 <LSky`> and em 11:58:08 <LSky`> why is the 737 located at the propellor planes 11:58:18 <Celestar> the difference between df -h and df -H is immense :P 11:58:25 <Darkvater> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=510092#510092 11:58:26 <Darkvater> lol 11:58:28 <Celestar> LSky`: because it is sorted by date? 11:58:52 <LSky`> that still makes no sense 11:59:02 <LSky`> the 707 isnt at the propellor tab 11:59:04 <LSky`> the 737 is 11:59:11 <Celestar> Darkvater: the images do not work 11:59:21 <LSky`> im quite sure that a 737 has a jet engine 11:59:23 <Darkvater> for you 12:00:12 <LSky`> entered into the game in 1968 12:00:18 <LSky`> that would be the 737-200 12:01:01 <Celestar> LSky`: it does have a jet engine 12:01:08 <LSky`> yea 12:01:18 <LSky`> but tis sorted in the propellor planes tab 12:01:51 <LSky`> sorted by date or by engineID, it's remains in the wrong tab 12:02:52 <Celestar> hm? 12:03:24 <LSky`> same goes for the DC-9 12:03:31 <LSky`> that's a jet airplane as well 12:09:00 <Celestar> yes 12:10:02 <Celestar> the 737 is in the jet tab for me 12:10:07 <Celestar> the DC is not however 12:10:14 <LSky`> hmm 12:10:26 <Celestar> and I know why the DC9 is in the prop tab 12:10:37 <Celestar> because it can operate safely to small airports 12:10:45 <Celestar> :S 12:10:54 <Celestar> Darkvater!! this is suboptimal 12:11:19 <Darkvater> what is? 12:11:37 <peter1138> propeller/jet/helicopter is bjarni's bullshit 12:11:42 <LSky`> that could be the explanation 12:11:46 <Celestar> that the DC-9 is in the "prop" department 12:11:50 <peter1138> it's always just been small/large/helicopter 12:11:50 <LSky`> but it's still not correct 12:11:51 <Celestar> peter1138: why bullshit? 12:11:53 <Darkvater> Celestar: see peter1138's comment 12:12:03 <Celestar> I don't think the idea is stupid :) 12:12:09 <LSky`> me neither 12:12:13 <LSky`> its makes perfect sense 12:12:20 <Tron_> Celestar: the difference is VTOL, long airstrip, short airstrip 12:12:34 <Celestar> Tron_: kind of 12:12:43 <peter1138> that's the one i was looking for... vtol 12:12:48 <Tron_> not kind of, it IS the difference 12:12:51 <Celestar> we should really decide whether to use icons or text 12:13:05 <LSky`> i'd go for text 12:13:08 <peter1138> Darkvater: i could add it as a value in the Window struct... 12:13:09 <Celestar> the difference is the TORA :P 12:13:15 <Celestar> or TORR :P 12:13:23 <Tron_> whether it uses propellors or jets is irrelevant 12:13:33 <Celestar> Take-Off Run Required 12:13:39 <Darkvater> peter1138: use flags4? :) 12:13:48 <peter1138> o_O 12:13:52 <Darkvater> hehe 12:13:56 <LSky`> but how is the 737 sorted among the small aircraft :| 12:14:04 <Darkvater> it has a 3 in the name 12:14:08 <LSky`> .. 12:14:12 <peter1138> it's marked as a small aircraft 12:14:14 <LSky`> the 707 is sorted witht eh large 12:14:17 <LSky`> yea i know that 12:14:22 <LSky`> but perhaps it shouldnt :p 12:14:32 <peter1138> take it up with the grf author :) 12:14:48 <LSky`> i see 12:15:02 <Celestar> hmm 12:15:24 <Celestar> it is very interesting to see how many different defitions of "airstrip length" exist :) 12:15:48 <LSky`> == <-- short 12:15:52 <LSky`> =========== <-- long 12:15:53 <LSky`> =) 12:17:15 <Celestar> there is: LDA, ASDA, TORA, TODA 12:18:04 <peter1138> LDA <- Load A register 12:18:12 <peter1138> ASDA <- Supermarket chain 12:19:03 <Celestar> LDA == landing distance available 12:19:13 <Celestar> ASDA == accelerate-stop-distance available 12:19:20 <Celestar> TORA == take-off run available 12:19:28 <Celestar> TODA == take-off distnace available 12:19:46 <Darkvater> TORA-BORA 12:20:24 <Celestar> TORA-BORA == (T-B)ORA 12:21:20 <Celestar> openttd cares crap about ASDA, TORA and TODA, because planes only crash on landing 12:21:23 <Celestar> :P 12:21:54 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:22:05 <Darkvater> that is not true 12:22:09 <Darkvater> they also run out of fuel :P 12:22:11 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:22:26 <LSky`> lol the fuel 12:22:35 <Celestar> when? 12:23:10 <Darkvater> when they run out 12:23:17 <Celestar> in the game? 12:23:21 <peter1138> yeah 12:23:32 * Celestar remembers himself having abandoned that project long ago 12:23:38 <peter1138> only happens with invalid orders 12:23:53 <Celestar> er .... 12:24:00 <Celestar> the plane should just go to the nearest airport :P 12:24:52 <Celestar> fischer@galadriel:[/nfs/home/fischer]> df -H ~ | awk '{ print }' 12:24:52 <Celestar> Size 12:24:53 <Celestar> 4.2T 12:25:06 <Celestar> > df -h ~ | awk '{ print }' 12:25:06 <Celestar> Size 12:25:06 <Celestar> 3.8T 12:25:15 <Celestar> that's almost half a TB difference :P 12:25:29 <Darkvater> Celestar: they crash when you have demolished their airports and they have no other orders 12:25:34 <LSky`> okay im off for driving lessons 12:26:24 <peter1138> hf 12:26:32 <peter1138> carmageddon :D 12:26:46 <Darkvater> :D 12:27:08 <Celestar> Who came up with the fucked idea that 1 GB == 1,000,000,000 bytes :S 12:28:56 <LSky`> isnt it 1,073,741,824 bytes sometimes? 12:29:19 <LSky`> oh wait thats the GiB 12:29:39 <Sacro> !calc 1024^3 12:29:40 <_42_> Sacro: 1073741824; 12:29:56 <Sacro> !calc 1024^4 12:29:58 <Sacro> even 12:29:58 <_42_> Sacro: 1099511627776; 12:35:56 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:36:40 <Celestar> well for the HDD makers it is 1e12 12:36:53 <Celestar> for normal people it is 2^40 12:37:03 <Celestar> for the ISO it is 1e12 12:38:21 <peter1138> yeah, they came up with this GiB shit 12:38:31 <smeding> gibibit! 12:38:41 <smeding> or wait 12:38:44 <smeding> gibibyte. 12:39:22 <peter1138> hehe, bjarni's funny 12:39:24 <peter1138> "The plane is too big, it's listed as a propeller plane even though it got jet engines (could be a wrong flag used in a grf though)." 12:41:03 <Celestar> which plane is too big? 12:41:18 <Celestar> the DC-9 ? 12:41:39 <peter1138> the dodgy looking one in the forums 12:42:26 <Celestar> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1128264/L/ 12:42:35 <Celestar> DC-9 31 12:42:47 <peter1138> mmmhmmm 12:43:34 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, linkage to where Bjarni says that! 12:44:06 <peter1138> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=28081 12:44:31 <peter1138> is it wrong to go around editing bjarni's posts to correct his "have/has" and "got/has" mistakes? 12:45:19 <Celestar> lol 12:45:25 <Darkvater> oh sweet jezus 12:45:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> i learned it should be "has got" 12:45:52 <Celestar> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0532997/L/ <= this is kinda bigger :) 12:46:09 <Darkvater> how is it possible that he manages to get every single has/have wrong? 12:46:19 <Darkvater> Just turn them around and he would speak english perfectly 12:46:21 <smeding> he's Danish, isn't he :< 12:46:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> he's divine ;) 12:46:39 <smeding> all the Danes i know mess verbs up 12:46:50 <smeding> of course, all the Danes i know = a grand total of 2 12:47:07 <Celestar> that's not really a statistical number 12:47:22 <peter1138> that doesn't stop the statisticians 12:47:28 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:28 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:47:34 <peter1138> hello glx 12:47:36 <smeding> indeed 12:47:38 <Celestar> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0536173/L/ 12:47:45 <glx> hi 12:47:51 <Darkvater> hi 12:47:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> never believe a statistics that you did not fake yourself... 12:48:12 <Celestar> ... unless they are to your advantage :P 12:48:18 <peter1138> the A380 in pikka's av is quite big :) 12:48:23 <Darkvater> KR1035027MA8 12:48:28 <Darkvater> oops 12:48:33 <Celestar> er Darkvater ? 12:48:38 <smeding> "a statistician was concerned by the large probability that there could be a bomb on an aircraft. he found the probability for two bombs to be on an aircraft much smaller. now he always brings a bomb with him on an aircraft." 12:48:39 <Celestar> ENOPASSWORDPROMPT 12:48:42 <Prof_Frink> root password. 12:48:43 * Eddi|zuHause2 makes note of Darkvater's root password 12:48:45 <smeding> that's from fortune if anyone bothers 12:49:11 <Darkvater> he, luckily it's not a password :) 12:49:21 <peter1138> it's not *a* password 12:49:23 <peter1138> it's *the* password 12:49:33 <Born_Acorn> So Bjarni sorts them by large/small, but gave them "Propellor" and "Jet" tags? 12:49:38 <Celestar> Darkvater: I really hope that is not your username 12:49:44 <Darkvater> S E C U R I T Y D E S C R I P T I O N P 12:49:44 <Darkvater> KOREA TREAS BOND NDFB 5.64 10/06 M A T U R E D 12:49:44 <Darkvater> ISSUER INFORMATION IDENTIFIERS 12:49:44 <Darkvater> Name KOREA TREASURY BOND Common 016235954 12:49:44 <Darkvater> Type Sovereign ISIN KR1035027MA8 12:49:46 <Darkvater> Market of Issue Domestic BB Number EC4655980 12:49:52 <Darkvater> happy now? :) 12:49:54 <Celestar> uh huh 12:50:09 <Darkvater> don't ask me what it is cause I have no frickin idea 12:50:13 <Darkvater> som kind of treasury bond 12:50:24 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: av8 shot! :D 12:50:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> so, Darkvater is making secret transactions with korea... 12:50:34 <Born_Acorn> Yes! 12:50:36 <Celestar> is the company-speak for porn? 12:50:59 <peter1138> is it me 12:51:06 <Celestar> it never sais that it is SOUTH korea, Darkvater supplies North Korea with stuff apparently :P 12:51:09 <peter1138> or is the shadow for the angled planes totally wrong? 12:51:10 <smeding> meh, i want irssi :< 12:51:18 <smeding> well, i have irssi, but only over SSH 12:51:23 <smeding> i want a local binary 12:51:35 <Celestar> smeding: well what's the problem with having the binary local 12:51:38 <Darkvater> hehe 12:51:45 <Celestar> OKK 12:51:55 <Celestar> how do people manage to delete ALL their mail? 12:52:06 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, yeah, but that's since the shadows mock the sprite, isn't it? 12:52:24 <Celestar> and then ask me to restore them :) 12:52:36 <smeding> Celestar: it won't compile because of GLib, and GLib won't compile because of an error in the makefile 12:52:41 <peter1138> well, yes 12:52:44 <Sacro> smeding: distro? 12:52:54 <smeding> OpenBSD 3.9 :> 12:53:23 <peter1138> heh 12:53:29 <Sacro> someone has to i suppose... 12:53:30 <smeding> wanted to try something new 12:53:35 <peter1138> these russian ottd users'll have a shock when utf8 hits us 12:53:45 <Sacro> peter1138: and ukrainien 12:53:55 <Sacro> is it nearly done? 12:53:56 <peter1138> not ukrainian 12:54:02 <peter1138> the ukrainian translation is good 12:54:08 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC6C07.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:54:11 <peter1138> but none of the russian lot have paid any attention 12:54:15 <Sacro> oh you mean doing the new translation 12:54:28 <peter1138> yeah 12:54:37 <peter1138> it's still using latin chars, heh 12:54:41 <Sacro> what about chinese/japanese/mandarin? 12:55:00 <Darkvater> only input troubles 12:55:05 <Darkvater> hmm I wonder 12:55:10 <Darkvater> how would these two mix? 12:55:25 <Darkvater> eg you play with a chinese guy, what do you see when he enters a custom name? 12:55:56 <peter1138> chinese characters 12:56:02 <peter1138> or squares if your font doesn't support it... 12:56:12 <Darkvater> it doesn't translate them to enighs? 12:56:15 <Darkvater> that's really weak 12:56:27 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-156-80.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:56:27 <peter1138> enighs? 12:56:27 <Sacro> Darkvater: your the dev, surely you tell it what to do 12:56:47 <Sacro> $me->toWork(); 12:56:48 <peter1138> hmm, link it to babelfish, heh 12:56:51 <Darkvater> Sacro: I keep telling it but it doesn't listen 12:56:58 <peter1138> Sacro: http://fuzzle.org/o/utf8chinese.png 12:57:04 <Sacro> Darkvater: ahh, you need ot be more persuesive 12:57:16 <Darkvater> I threatened of deleting all its source 12:57:33 <peter1138> and japanese... http://fuzzle.org/o/utf8-jp3.png 12:57:41 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-253-234.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 12:57:45 <peter1138> and greek... http://fuzzle.org/o/utf8-greek.png 12:57:57 <Sacro> cool 12:58:01 <Sacro> now i have to go, talk later! 12:58:02 <peter1138> and ukrainian... http://fuzzle.org/o/utf8-ukr.png 12:58:20 <Born_Acorn> The Chinese looks a bit cramped into blocks of black 12:58:35 <peter1138> unforunately yes 12:58:41 <peter1138> silly characters :P 12:58:51 <peter1138> for the size, i don't think it looks too bad 12:59:15 <peter1138> until we get a scalable gui... 13:11:42 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:32:28 <Neonox> Tron: ping 13:44:41 <hylje> Neonox: pong 13:45:04 <Neonox> hylje: :-p 13:51:40 <peter1138> pang 13:51:52 <Darkvater> puff 13:52:42 <Tobin> peter1138: What format can the font's be in? Encoded into GRFs? 13:52:57 <peter1138> encoded into grfs, or anything freetype will read 13:53:10 <Tobin> Goodoh. 14:02:54 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-065-70.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 14:09:48 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F564.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:12:23 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 14:19:54 <Celestar> ok 14:20:06 <Celestar> how can I get myself off the openttd.org emails? 14:20:51 <hylje> rm -rf / 14:22:01 <Noldo> hylje: are trying to look like an idiot 14:22:36 <Tron_> Celestar: read the footer 14:30:24 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5351CE6A.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:30:25 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CE6A.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:31:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34:34 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:37:02 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:44:43 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:48:49 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 14:48:59 <Darkvater> hmm find&replace on a 1000 external links in an excel file was not such a good idea I think 14:48:59 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:53:16 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:54:53 <LSky`> back. 14:57:53 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:57:56 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F564.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03:17 <Celestar> Darkvater: rofl, and for sure no option from preventing excel to search all the files? 15:03:24 * Celestar is gone 15:05:38 <Darkvater> it's worse, i can't even close excel 15:05:51 <Darkvater> and the fag' sysadmins disabled the task manager 15:06:02 <Darkvater> so the only way to QUIT excel is to reboot :O 15:06:11 <Darkvater> even logout doesn't work, gives me "cannot quit excel" 15:06:23 <peter1138> o_O 15:08:43 <hylje> interesting 15:08:49 <hylje> go whine to your local support 15:09:46 <Darkvater> they're idiots. I had the task manager on Monday 15:11:08 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F564.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:50:38 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 16:03:22 *** jez [scenery@cpc3-stkn4-0-0-cust630.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:04:34 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08:07 <LSky`> peter1138 , how do you say /all :D 16:08:42 <peter1138> shift-enter 16:09:20 <jez> methinks i have a patch worth checking in. 16:11:05 <jez> this channel is so dead nowadays 16:11:11 <jez> people used to talk 16:11:38 <peter1138> yeah, let's all leave it 16:14:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, and form a new one on freenode ;) 16:14:56 <jez> erm 16:15:10 <jez> is it a known bug that some stations near oil refiniries don't accept oil>? 16:15:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> not all refinery tiles actually accept oil 16:16:04 <jez> hum 16:18:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> what i wanted to say was, that it is a) known and b) not a bug, but a feature ;) 16:24:50 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-216.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:49 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-218.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:33:07 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-218.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:38:36 *** DaleStan_ [Dale@74.132.220.79] has joined #openttd 16:38:48 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 16:42:26 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2Eat 16:45:05 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.220.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:52:01 *** TronBSD [~tron@p54A3F0DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:57:41 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:57:54 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74.132.220.79] has joined #openttd 16:58:00 *** DaleStan__ is now known as DaleStan 16:58:02 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3F56A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:03:13 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74.132.220.79] has joined #openttd 17:04:04 <Brianetta> DaleStan: You there? 17:04:07 *** DaleStan_ [Dale@74.132.220.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:04:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host7-239-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:04:37 <Brianetta> I need some peer review - http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=510333#510333 17:04:40 <Wolf01> hi 17:04:43 <Brianetta> I don't want to mislead people on the GPL. 17:04:49 <Brianetta> Wolf01, hi 17:07:22 <DaleStan__> Brianetta: Reading 17:07:29 <Brianetta> ta 17:08:32 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.220.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:08:32 *** DaleStan__ is now known as DaleStan 17:08:45 *** d [d@p54A3BE15.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:10:28 *** d [d@p54A3BE15.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd [] 17:10:45 *** Netsplit oxygen.oftc.net <-> osmosis.oftc.net quits: LSky`, Frostregen, Neonox, GoneWacko, Jell-O-Fishi, DJ_Mirage, KUDr, Mucht|work, XeryusTC, Osai^2 17:10:49 <DaleStan> Brianetta: Looks fine to me 17:10:59 <Brianetta> Cool. Thanks for checking. 17:11:41 *** Netsplit over, joins: Neonox 17:12:45 *** Netsplit over, joins: Mucht|work, Frostregen, GoneWacko, XeryusTC, LSky`, DJ_Mirage, Osai^2, Jell-O-Fishi 17:14:41 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:16:17 <LSky`> =o 17:16:29 <LSky`> *audience gasps* 17:18:58 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 17:19:30 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 17:19:33 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 17:20:08 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-216.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 17:41:37 <peter1138> moo? 17:42:37 <smeding> moo! 17:42:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> Eine Kuh macht Muh, viele Kühe machen Mühe. :p 17:42:59 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176100057.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:44:02 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-253-234.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:45:49 *** LSky` [~hixscript@cc103898-a.roden1.dr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: [ HIX-Script v2.2 ]:::[ Download from ]:::[ www.rupertonline.ca/hix/ ]:::[] 17:46:43 *** Rens2Eat is now known as Rens2Sea 17:52:05 <Darkvater> back 17:52:21 <Sacro> wheres me deltic :( 17:53:21 * Sacro finds a bug :d 17:53:26 <Sacro> and an actual one this time too 17:53:34 <peter1138> mr 'vater 17:53:41 <peter1138> Sacro: wossat? 17:54:09 <Sacro> when you click on the dynamite on the rail toolbar, then press d to stop using it 17:54:21 <Sacro> you have to press it twice as it selects dynamite on the landscape bar first 17:55:07 <hylje> :p 17:55:11 <hylje> and autorail hotkey is universal 17:55:19 <hylje> it gets caught even if rail is not open 17:55:27 <hylje> not the case with dynamite or signaling 17:56:37 <peter1138> that's because the rail toolbar dynamite is 6 ;) 17:58:48 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 18:01:20 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 18:10:52 *** LSky` [~hixscript@cc103898-a.roden1.dr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 18:10:54 *** WolfAngel [~wolfangel@83.73.168.209.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #openttd 18:11:22 <Sacro> "Cannot build engine, engine is unbuildable" 18:11:50 <Sacro> hmm, seems they are not in stock anymore 18:15:59 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-131-205.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 18:16:37 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-172-178.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:19:09 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:19:47 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:25:16 <Sacro> LSky`: ping 18:25:29 <Sacro> :o 18:25:31 <Sacro> clevah 18:25:33 <LSky`> :D 18:25:39 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-172-178.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd [] 18:25:45 <LSky`> what's up 18:25:51 <Sacro> you have an err... traffic jam 18:25:58 <LSky`> lol 18:26:03 * Sacro looks innocent 18:26:05 <LSky`> okay let me take a look at it 18:26:08 <LSky`> .... 18:26:16 <Sacro> my sawmill station is... running 18:30:07 *** Tron_ [to8kFbBI@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:34:10 <Darkvater> hmm my ottd activities for this evening have encountered a serious setback 18:34:33 <Darkvater> bb in a few hours 18:34:35 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-216.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:35:27 <Sacro> !seen BJarni 18:35:29 <_42_> Sacro, Bjarni (~Bjarni@0x50a46c16.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) was last seen quitting #openttd 1 day 17 hours 38 minutes ago (24.10. 00:56) stating "Quit: Leaving" after spending 8 hours 57 minutes there. 18:38:58 <Wolf01> sacro! get a life! 18:39:16 <Wolf01> peter1138! bridge stuff! 18:40:02 <Sacro> Wolf01: i have an autoreplace bug 18:40:32 <Wolf01> of your own cells? 18:43:00 <Sacro> ? 18:44:56 <Wolf01> if your cells replacements have bugs you may have cancer or other diseases 18:46:21 <peter1138> heh, vehicle.c:2068 18:46:42 <peter1138> bjarni's used lots of DoCommand()s and not checked the return value 18:47:53 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp83-237-234-250.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:54:54 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5351CE6A.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Purno has spoken] 19:00:09 <Frostregen> WWT_PANEL_2 is now the same as WWT_PANEL? 19:02:44 <Frostregen> ok ;) 19:04:35 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2SupComBeta 19:06:51 <peter1138> is it? 19:07:34 <Frostregen> was already the same, _2 just got removed 19:10:47 <peter1138> nah 19:11:00 <peter1138> WWT_PANEL_2 used a different image when clicked 19:11:07 <Frostregen> ah, right 19:11:17 <Frostregen> so what is it now? 19:11:17 <peter1138> it is now WWT_IMGBTN_2 19:11:23 <peter1138> afaict 19:11:34 <Frostregen> ok, i'll try 19:15:56 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:17:57 <lws1984> Sacro! 19:18:28 <scia> lws1984! 19:22:06 <Frostregen> thx, worked 19:25:53 <peter1138> oh, was there a problem? 19:25:55 <peter1138> hee 19:28:05 <Frostregen> small ones 19:33:16 <Naksu> WWT_EMO_PANEL was fine imo 19:35:10 <peter1138> that's a different one 19:35:17 <CIA-1> miham * r6942 /trunk/lang/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 19:35:17 <CIA-1> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-10-25 21:34:26 19:35:17 <CIA-1> bulgarian - 11 fixed, 5 changed by groupsky (16) 19:35:17 <CIA-1> czech - 4 fixed, 3 changed by Hadez (7) 19:35:17 <CIA-1> dutch - 1 fixed by habell (1) 19:35:18 <CIA-1> galician - 22 fixed by Condex (22) 19:35:18 <CIA-1> italian - 2 changed by sidew (2) 19:38:26 <MiHaMiX> swedish - 4 fixed, 2 changed by daishan (6) 19:53:13 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F564.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:56:04 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-065-70.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 20:04:55 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F564.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:10:58 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 20:11:09 <MeusH> hi 20:11:16 <Sacro> MeusH! 20:11:20 * Darkvater kicks MeusH for breaking polish 20:11:30 <MeusH> hello :) 20:11:39 * glx kicks him too :) 20:11:43 <MeusH> doing what? 20:12:02 <Darkvater> compile polish.txt 20:13:14 <glx> MeusH: a copy/paste error ;) 20:13:15 <Darkvater> ^^ 20:13:20 <MeusH> hmm 20:13:24 <MeusH> it's MiHaMiX 20:14:57 <MeusH> sorry for problems, it's fixed 20:16:59 <Darkvater> lol anyone seen all the bouncing titties in dead or alive extreme 2? 20:17:12 <Darkvater> you wouldn't say it was a volleyball game :D 20:19:20 <Darkvater> in fact I have not even seen a single ball in that whole trailer 20:19:28 <Darkvater> just bouncing busts 20:22:34 <MeusH> I think I'll download something :) 20:22:34 <Naksu> Darkvater: i think that's the point 20:22:37 * peter1138 mutters at forgetting to add files to svn 20:22:40 <peter1138> and then losing changes :/ 20:23:25 * Darkvater mutters at peter1138 20:23:36 <Darkvater> MeusH: http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2006/10/23/new-doax2-trailer-pushes-the-limits/ 20:23:44 <Darkvater> get the HD version for plus-points 20:24:08 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 20:24:08 <MeusH> woohoo, is it a 3 cd movie? 20:24:24 <Darkvater> no 300MB orso only 20:25:39 <Darkvater> muhahha 20:25:43 <Darkvater> 14. Q: Why did the feminist cross the road?? 20:25:59 <Darkvater> A: To suck my cock. 20:26:03 <Darkvater> hehe (sorry) 20:27:32 <MeusH> yeah :D 20:27:34 <MeusH> cool :) 20:27:37 <MeusH> where's that? 20:27:49 <Darkvater> heh...it turns out this game's not a volleybal game but like streetfighter 20:27:57 * Darkvater feels kinda stupid right now 20:28:03 <Darkvater> MeusH: one of the comments 20:28:48 *** LSky`afk [~hixscript@cc103898-a.roden1.dr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 20:28:48 *** LSky` [~hixscript@cc103898-a.roden1.dr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:28:56 <Darkvater> http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php << direct consequence 20:29:09 *** Rens2SupComBeta is now known as Rens2Sea 20:29:14 <hylje> :o 20:29:19 <Darkvater> hmm 20:29:20 <Darkvater> wait 20:29:24 <Darkvater> it is a volleybal game 20:29:24 <hylje> toothpastefordinner.com 20:29:28 <Darkvater> nvm 20:30:07 *** LSky`afk is now known as LSky` 20:36:15 * peter1138 expands the newgrf file selector even more... 20:36:32 <LSky`> =o 20:38:23 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/grfgui/8.png 20:38:48 <hylje> i smell pixels 20:39:25 <MeusH> peter1138, add a window title and merge :p 20:40:00 <Darkvater> you've broken the consistent GUI ^^ 20:40:22 <peter1138> oh dear 20:40:36 <MeusH> Darkvater> get the HD version for plus-points <-- You mean the link in "Isn't it about time they fix the hair? It looks terrible. See the video in HD here."? 20:40:37 <peter1138> let's make it like simutrans' ;) 20:41:16 <Darkvater> MeusH: yes 20:41:32 <Darkvater> peter1138: just teasing you with the 'highlighted' item :) 20:41:40 <LSky`> nice peter1138 20:41:45 <LSky`> that GRF menu 20:41:55 <MeusH> thanks DV 20:42:47 <peter1138> indeed 20:43:03 <peter1138> Darkvater: the other file selectors don't have a highlight... or extra info... 20:43:11 <peter1138> so... hmm... 20:43:26 <peter1138> shall i leave the background off? 20:44:09 <peter1138> ooh, azureus gets updated 20:44:13 <peter1138> i wonder if it'll work now 20:44:16 <Darkvater> pfei 20:44:19 <Darkvater> use utorrent! 20:44:42 <Darkvater> no highlight looks good... only isn't that a bit too much gray? Eg background is gray and the files as well 20:44:51 * Darkvater uses utorrent with wine on suse 20:44:53 <Darkvater> works like a charm 20:44:54 <peter1138> o_O 20:45:01 <Darkvater> about 5x faster than azucrap 20:45:01 <peter1138> pick colours, i'll make it so 20:45:19 <glx> yes µtorrent is cool 20:45:24 <hylje> i want ottd to use alpha-transparency windows 20:45:40 <Darkvater> i want ottd to order pizza 20:45:59 <MeusH> you need someone to draw a pizza wagon :D 20:46:08 <peter1138> anyone, pick colours :P 20:46:18 <MeusH> pink :P 20:46:22 <Darkvater> hmm 20:46:23 <MeusH> more seriously, beige? 20:46:31 <hylje> black 20:46:39 <Darkvater> yellow? 20:46:42 <Darkvater> like thesavegames? 20:46:45 <MeusH> turquosique (like multiplayer window, and I know I spelled the tur... name wrong) :D 20:46:54 <hylje> turquoise 20:46:56 <hylje> afaik 20:47:00 <Sacro> turquoise 20:47:15 <MeusH> yeah, thanks 20:47:33 <peter1138> why like the MP window? 20:47:54 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Whoopsy] 20:47:55 <glx> why not the same colour as current newgrf window? 20:48:01 <Darkvater> I say make it look like the fileloader 20:48:16 <hylje> make it look half fileloader half mp 20:48:26 <peter1138> o_O 20:48:28 <hylje> and half current newgrf window 20:48:37 <peter1138> 150% 20:48:40 <peter1138> :D 20:48:43 <hylje> :> 20:50:52 <peter1138> Darkvater: so gold text? 20:50:56 <peter1138> what about highlight... 20:51:01 <peter1138> white maybe 20:51:49 <Darkvater> hmm we need to see how that would look 20:52:33 <peter1138> actually it's orange not gold 20:53:50 <peter1138> 2454 peter 15 0 430m 81m 23m S 55.7 16.3 3:56.60 java 20:53:54 <peter1138> gotta love java 20:54:03 <peter1138> i think azureus can fuck off 20:54:15 <peter1138> oh, that's nicer 20:54:22 <peter1138> orange with white highlight 20:56:25 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/grfgui/9.png 20:56:42 <Darkvater> that's pretty decent 20:56:53 <peter1138> still needs a caption, hehe 20:57:11 <Sacro> wow...snazzy 20:57:29 <Belugas> beautiful, peter1138 20:57:37 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 20:57:48 <Belugas> makes me want to click on the screen 20:57:54 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC6C07.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:57:56 <peter1138> hehe 20:58:12 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:00:53 *** TronBSD is now known as Tron 21:01:45 <MeusH> very nice 21:03:35 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 21:04:49 <Wolf01> gn 21:04:52 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host7-239-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 21:05:25 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2SupComBeta 21:07:36 *** WolfAngel [~wolfangel@83.73.168.209.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has quit [Quit: '$quit.msg' (without quotes).] 21:10:15 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:11:07 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:13:50 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-131-205.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 21:15:10 *** xyz [ss@bas2-montreal02-1167853819.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 21:23:13 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176100057.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 21:27:35 <MeusH> goodnight 21:27:54 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp83-237-234-250.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:28:35 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: bye - quit] 21:35:18 <xyz> hello 21:35:23 <xyz> can anyone help 21:35:45 <Sacro> xyz: please state your question 21:35:45 <xyz> with a c expres compiling setting 21:36:10 <Sacro> xyz: please state your question 21:36:16 <xyz> how can i make the compiler not to generate an COnsole 21:36:19 <xyz> Console 21:36:33 <Darkvater> build in Release-Win32/x64 21:37:41 <xyz> if that is a setting of the compiler 21:37:46 <xyz> mine is set to win32 21:38:17 <xyz> and i do not have any other option 21:38:17 <glx> just select release instead debug 21:38:23 <xyz> aha 21:38:25 <xyz> ok 21:38:43 <Darkvater> is my english this bad? 21:39:00 <glx> not for me but who knows :) 21:39:31 <xyz> :) 21:39:33 <xyz> 'strgen.exe': Loaded 'C:\xyz\openttd\source\OTTD-source\strgen\Debug\strgen.exe', Symbols loaded. 21:39:33 <xyz> 'strgen.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll', No symbols loaded. 21:39:33 <xyz> 'strgen.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll', No symbols loaded. 21:39:33 <xyz> The program '[4040] strgen.exe: Native' has exited with code 1 (0x1). 21:39:37 <Sacro> Darkvater: s/this/that/ ;) 21:40:07 <Darkvater> xyz: right-click on openttd in the 'solution explorer' and check 'set as startup project' 21:40:16 <Darkvater> is this really not written down in the wiki? 21:40:21 <Darkvater> can someone check? 21:41:35 <xyz> 'set as startup project' is disabled 21:41:54 <xyz> but probabli because i am compiling 21:42:00 <Darkvater> no comment 21:43:30 <peter1138> meh, temporary string buffers all over the place ;( 21:45:44 <Darkvater> from what? 21:47:31 *** LSky` [~hixscript@cc103898-a.roden1.dr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: [ HIX-Script v2.2 ]:::[ Download from ]:::[ www.rupertonline.ca/hix/ ]:::[] 21:47:31 <xyz> ok 21:47:34 <xyz> thx 21:47:37 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:48:41 <peter1138> oh, this :) 21:48:45 <peter1138> newgrf stuff 21:48:46 <peter1138> anyway 21:48:53 <peter1138> what's the difference between strecat and strecpy? 21:48:59 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp83-237-234-250.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 21:49:01 <Darkvater> cat appends to the end 21:49:17 <peter1138> ah, ok 21:49:23 <Sacro> kinda like > and >> ? 21:49:50 <Tron> peter1138: usually you need strecat at most once 21:50:02 <Tron> if at all 21:50:05 <peter1138> right oh 22:01:27 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F564.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:07:09 <peter1138> hmm, 11pm... 22:10:27 <Darkvater> dammit 22:10:48 <Darkvater> my brilliant idea of using filldrawpixelinfo to limit string drawing has failed :( 22:11:09 <Darkvater> it actually shows/flickers through windows which are in front :( 22:11:11 <Darkvater> crap 22:11:17 <peter1138> o_O 22:12:04 <Darkvater> hmm but in that case...the train-depot window should also show through 22:12:05 <Darkvater> hmm 22:12:25 <Darkvater> nooo, noooo way 22:12:33 <peter1138> does it? 22:12:34 <Darkvater> this only happens in release? 22:13:27 *** xyz [ss@bas2-montreal02-1167853819.dsl.bell.ca] has left #openttd [] 22:13:58 <peter1138> hmm 22:14:06 <Darkvater> on the brighter side, my rewritten drawtextmessage is an average of 3% faster than the old one based on 4 chat-message on -screen 22:14:14 <peter1138> but it doesn't work? 22:14:24 <Darkvater> no that works 22:15:23 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/clip_textbox.diff 22:15:25 <Darkvater> this doesn't 22:17:12 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:17:17 <peter1138> strange 22:18:55 <Darkvater> whohoo it even crashes 22:19:01 <peter1138> ah 22:19:04 <peter1138> int DoDrawString(const char *string, int x, int y, uint16 real_color) 22:19:04 <peter1138> { DrawPixelInfo *dpi = _cur_dpi; 22:19:14 <peter1138> hmm 22:19:37 <peter1138> that's just to check it's in range 22:19:57 *** Mucht|work is now known as Mucht|zZz 22:20:01 <Darkvater> he the thing even crashes... so this is not the way to go 22:20:04 <Darkvater> at least with strings 22:20:06 <Darkvater> dmmit 22:20:09 <peter1138> o_O 22:20:24 *** GabbZoo [~gzrasta@62-30-198-220.cable.ubr02.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:22:43 <KUDr> Darkvater:, peter1138: have some time? 22:23:44 <KUDr> i am looking at freetype library and it looks that it has no own fonts - uses only OS supplied fonts << is it correct? 22:23:55 <Darkvater> and debug build works like a charm :S 22:23:58 <Darkvater> KUDr: yes 22:24:05 *** amix [~AmiXoamip@202.80-203-43.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 22:24:10 <amix> hello 22:24:10 <KUDr> works fine, yes 22:24:20 <peter1138> Darkvater: it's your compiler then ;p 22:24:25 <GabbZoo> hi amix 22:24:36 <peter1138> freetype is a font renderer 22:24:37 <KUDr> ok, then probably we will have the same problem that i found 22:24:39 <peter1138> not a font collector 22:24:45 <amix> hey GabbZoo 22:26:34 * Darkvater slaps peter1138 22:26:42 <Darkvater> KUDr: what is that? 22:27:01 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-156-80.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:27:03 <KUDr> small font that supports unicode chars 22:27:06 <Darkvater> cannot believe vs2005 can compile so crappily 22:27:08 <KUDr> it looks bad 22:27:28 <KUDr> with no antialliasing 22:27:42 <KUDr> with AA it is fine 22:27:56 <KUDr> but AA can't be used as i understand 22:28:47 <peter1138> if you followed the freetype support code, then if no font is chosen it uses the built-in fonts 22:29:14 <peter1138> also i made a bdf small font 22:29:35 <peter1138> might be able to convert to a bitmap windows font 22:29:51 <KUDr> what is bdf? 22:31:04 <peter1138> er 22:31:09 <KUDr> so we can use freetype to grab some fonts from linux and then use them on windows? 22:31:28 <Darkvater> KUDr: freetype only loads fonts it doesn't supply or manage any 22:31:37 <Darkvater> it only has support for a wide arrange of fonts 22:31:42 <Darkvater> -ar 22:31:49 <KUDr> yes 22:32:13 <KUDr> but if we don't find usefull small font on Windons? 22:32:17 <Darkvater> will we be able to select the font driver as well? :P 22:32:29 <peter1138> hehe 22:32:54 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 22:33:00 <peter1138> small_font = freetype:/path/to/small.bdf 22:33:01 <peter1138> heh 22:33:08 <peter1138> perhaps not 22:33:09 <amix> what i like with the openttd gui 22:33:12 <Darkvater> -f freetype 22:33:16 <Darkvater> -f win32 22:33:18 <Darkvater> :) 22:33:18 <amix> is that its based on amigaos gui 22:33:24 <peter1138> Darkvater: nope 22:33:26 *** Xeryus|slaap [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 22:33:32 <peter1138> unless it gets implemented as a driver 22:33:47 <peter1138> thing is, we always want fallback to the sprite fonts 22:33:58 <peter1138> or at least every driver would have to implement that 22:34:19 <Darkvater> YEs vs2003 crashes immediately 22:34:23 <Sacro> amigaos? 22:34:24 <Darkvater> fuckin compilers 22:34:26 <KUDr> or sprite font can be last resort driver 22:34:27 <Darkvater> -s 22:34:51 <peter1138> KUDr: we always need some glyphs from the sprite font 22:34:58 <peter1138> for gui elements 22:35:03 <KUDr> yes i know 22:35:11 <peter1138> and the station icons 22:35:12 <peter1138> hmm 22:35:30 <Darkvater> and debug does not...again...yaay 22:35:42 <Darkvater> I hereby declare both vs2003 and vs2005 compilers crap 22:35:55 <peter1138> why don't you deb... oh... 22:35:56 *** Xeryus|slaap [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [] 22:38:31 <Darkvater> I think my *hack* is not the solution 22:40:56 <peter1138> yes it is 22:41:03 <peter1138> you just need to rebuild ottd around it 22:41:19 <Darkvater> lolol 22:41:56 <peter1138> is it me 22:42:01 <peter1138> or is that 32bpp plane blurry... 22:42:45 <Darkvater> av8? 22:42:55 <peter1138> no, av8 is not 32bpp :) 22:43:04 <Darkvater> well it was at some point :) 22:43:12 *** Rens2SupComBeta is now known as Rens2Sea 22:43:53 <peter1138> can't find it now :/ 22:44:33 <Darkvater> av8? 22:44:50 <peter1138> no 22:45:04 <peter1138> there's a 32bpp plane in the forum somewhere 22:45:06 <peter1138> but i've gotta go 22:45:07 <peter1138> nini 22:45:15 <Darkvater> blender thread? 22:45:38 <glx> http://www.tt-forums.net/files/tt_32bpp_010_105.png 22:45:57 <glx> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=14549&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=2120 <-- from this thread 22:46:05 <Darkvater> aah nice 22:46:10 <Darkvater> it's a bit big though 22:56:04 <Darkvater> hehehe 22:56:15 *** LSky` [~hixscript@cc103898-a.roden1.dr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 22:56:18 <Darkvater> release works if I only draw the strings when DrawFillPixelInfo returns true \o/ 22:56:58 <GabbZoo> \o/ 22:57:00 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 22:58:24 <Darkvater> hmm I needa ask someone how this _cur_dpi thingie works exactly :) 22:58:47 <LSky`> anyone know a lot about networking and connections here? 22:59:27 <LSky`> not everyone at the same time please... 22:59:48 <GabbZoo> you could just start babbling 22:59:51 <GabbZoo> and see if anyone answers 22:59:55 <LSky`> okay 23:00:00 <LSky`> its not abot openttd 23:00:10 <LSky`> but seeing as a lot of people here know stuff about computers 23:00:14 <LSky`> i thought id try ithere 23:00:33 <LSky`> im trying to play any steam game 23:00:36 <Darkvater> you still haven't said anything of importance 23:00:38 <LSky`> but i cant connect to any server 23:00:48 <LSky`> everything works fine 23:00:53 <LSky`> i can query servers 23:00:56 <LSky`> ping servers 23:01:00 <LSky`> see their information 23:01:00 <Darkvater> router? 23:01:06 <LSky`> i have one 23:01:11 <LSky`> turned firewall on and off 23:01:16 <GabbZoo> did it use to work? 23:01:17 <LSky`> router and on my own comp 23:01:19 <LSky`> yes 23:01:22 <LSky`> untill 2-3 days ago 23:01:24 <Darkvater> does it work without the router? 23:01:28 *** xyz [~ss@bas2-montreal02-1096684096.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 23:01:28 <GabbZoo> installed anything recently? 23:01:35 <LSky`> openttd :\ 23:01:53 <LSky`> i havent tried it without a router 23:01:55 <GabbZoo> or reset the router? 23:01:58 <LSky`> i reset it 23:02:05 <LSky`> the weird thing is 23:02:09 <LSky`> everything else works fine 23:02:09 <Darkvater> does it work on another pc? 23:02:14 <LSky`> cant tell either 23:02:19 <Darkvater> you can try DMZ on your router 23:02:24 <LSky`> DMZ? 23:02:31 <Darkvater> it will open and forward all ports to a certain IP 23:02:41 <LSky`> i tried a test 23:02:48 <LSky`> to see if the correct ports were open 23:02:51 <LSky`> they were ope 23:02:52 <LSky`> n 23:03:08 <Darkvater> Demilitarized Zone :) 23:03:39 *** GZoo [~gzrasta@62-30-198-220.cable.ubr02.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:03:40 <LSky`> one odd detail 23:03:48 <LSky`> when i try to see where the packets are going 23:03:49 <GZoo> oops. 23:03:53 <LSky`> it says there arent any 23:04:18 <Darkvater> it's most likely windows throwing a fit 23:04:30 <Darkvater> testing on another pc would give you closure 23:04:37 <LSky`> well its doing it to all steam games then 23:04:46 <LSky`> im not using windows firewall 23:04:48 <LSky`> but zonealarm 23:04:51 <LSky`> i turned that off too 23:05:00 <Darkvater> ugh 23:05:04 <glx> zonealarm is unconfigurable :) 23:05:05 <Darkvater> zonealarm is such crap 23:05:12 <jez> Pinging mycroft.mozdev.org [140.211.166.81] with 32 bytes of data: 23:05:12 <jez> Request timed out. 23:05:14 <Darkvater> it can even fuck up when it's "turned off" 23:05:26 <LSky`> norton does that :p 23:05:28 <glx> it never accepted my IIS on 8080 23:05:39 <LSky`> you cant uninstall norton internet security 23:05:44 <LSky`> its impossible 23:05:47 <LSky`> unless you format 23:05:57 <glx> I'm using KPF 23:05:59 <LSky`> there will always be a remaining piece of NIS 23:06:05 <Darkvater> yep, KPF rules 23:06:11 <Darkvater> too bad it's discontinued 23:06:17 <glx> ha? 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