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00:00:10 <Aracirion> is that a tacit "yes" 00:00:18 <Aracirion> ? 00:04:39 <Eddi|zuHause> no, you just need patience ;) 00:13:41 <Aracirion> so is there any way of finding out what has been planned already, so that I could add my ideas if they're not superfluous? 00:16:41 *** Gorthdar [opera@chello089173006090.chello.sk] has joined #openttd 00:20:47 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB6C03.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^2] 00:23:39 *** BFM [~BurningFe@CPE-60-227-109-191.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:32:28 *** Gorthdar [opera@chello089173006090.chello.sk] has left #openttd [] 00:37:35 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:39:08 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.238] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:47:06 <Aracirion> =\ 00:55:30 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.6/2006102918]] 01:01:17 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@p549F274C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: YOU! It was you wasn't it!?] 01:21:16 <Aracirion> ....? 01:25:06 <Eddi|zuHause> what kind of reaction do you expect after 2AM? 01:30:11 <Aracirion> a startle reflex? 01:32:00 <Aracirion> is there no simple answer to the question "so is there any way of finding out what has been planned already"? 01:32:09 <Aracirion> I thought it wasn't super-complex 01:33:23 <Aracirion> don't know? 01:35:28 *** Tggtt [Tggtt@201-43-10-55.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 01:35:40 <Tggtt> hey I've found a nice bug 01:36:05 <Tggtt> does anyone know about the bug from destroing an station 01:36:40 <Tggtt> while the train is on the route, the cargo becomes from unknown source 01:36:59 <Tggtt> and the payment for the cargo is very very expensive 01:37:50 <Aracirion> ....z.....z.....z... 01:38:01 <Aracirion> can u make a lot of money with tha? 01:38:05 <Tggtt> A LOT 01:38:08 <Aracirion> cool 01:38:22 <Eddi|zuHause> Tggtt: yes, distance is calculated from (0,0) then 01:38:36 <Aracirion> where is 0/0? 01:38:36 <Tggtt> just as I expected 01:38:41 <Aracirion> top? left? 01:38:42 <Eddi|zuHause> the very top corner 01:38:44 <Tggtt> the edge of the map 01:38:51 <Aracirion> is it in nightly or 4.8? 01:38:55 <Tggtt> 4.8 01:39:01 <Aracirion> cool 01:39:06 <Eddi|zuHause> it will only be fixed with cargo packages 01:39:40 <Eddi|zuHause> it is 0.4.8 btw. 01:39:52 <Eddi|zuHause> it is a very long time until 4.8 01:40:08 <Aracirion> :) 01:40:13 <Aracirion> oh crap i deleted 0.4.8 01:41:11 <Eddi|zuHause> you can check it out with svn ;) 01:41:30 <Aracirion> I didnt want to check it out, I wanted to use it to cheat in an online game 01:41:47 <Aracirion> But ots not worth installing again I guess 01:41:56 <Tggtt> Eddi|zuHause, do you know about the trees planting bug? 01:42:10 <Aracirion> can u make money with it too? 01:42:12 <Tggtt> it's a cool bug too 01:42:14 <Tggtt> nope 01:42:21 <Aracirion> how does it work\ 01:42:22 <Aracirion> ? 01:42:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i can imagine at least half a dozen "bugs" with trees 01:42:26 <Tggtt> plant more than one tree in the same tile 01:42:44 <Aracirion> do that all the time 01:42:50 <Eddi|zuHause> what is the bug there? 01:42:52 <Aracirion> (city authorities suck) 01:42:52 <Tggtt> they get grown up instantly 01:43:05 <Tggtt> they grow 01:43:14 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-141-227-74.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:43:21 <Eddi|zuHause> non-vital :p 01:43:28 <Aracirion> actually the city authorities shouldnt like you more if you plant a forest all around the town 01:43:32 <Aracirion> thats silly 01:43:38 <Aracirion> they should hate you 01:47:19 *** Digitalfox [~digitalfo@bl8-40-141.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 01:47:24 *** Coiote_TTD [~brunbru@BHE200139130109.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #openttd 01:47:30 <Coiote_TTD> lol 01:47:32 <Coiote_TTD> i coal train 01:47:35 <Coiote_TTD> is getting 500k 01:48:40 <Tggtt> Coiote_TTD, nope, I did it 01:48:57 <Coiote_TTD> i didnt say it was mine =] 01:49:03 <Coiote_TTD> i know its yours 01:49:16 <Digitalfox> 500k mean what?? 500.000$ or euros ?? :| 01:49:22 <Tggtt> dollars 01:49:23 <Coiote_TTD> 500k$ 01:49:27 <Coiote_TTD> yeah 01:49:33 <Coiote_TTD> we two r playing together 01:49:39 <Digitalfox> and that is what a record :| ?? 01:49:42 <Coiote_TTD> his coal train is getting 500k with 330 tons 01:49:51 <Digitalfox> oh i see.. :) 01:49:57 <Tggtt> it's a bug 01:50:02 <Tggtt> I've told it already 01:50:08 <glx> no it's called inflation :) 01:50:13 <Coiote_TTD> no inflation 01:50:18 <Coiote_TTD> we r in 1937 01:50:32 <Digitalfox> but it depends too on distance and speed of the train.. ;) 01:51:03 <Tggtt> Coiote_TTD, inflation is on 01:51:10 <Tggtt> but that's not the matter 01:51:20 <Digitalfox> what train is he using?? like what the power and speed of the train?? 01:51:38 <Tggtt> the cargo is paid for the distance and the time it took 01:51:49 <Tggtt> when the cargo looses it source 01:51:59 <Tggtt> it becomes a cargo from (0,0) 01:52:11 <Tggtt> which is very far from that spot 01:52:55 <glx> known but not easy to fix 01:53:35 <Coiote_TTD> well 01:53:43 <Coiote_TTD> Tggtt must destroy that station 01:53:54 <Tggtt> the station should get a longer time to lose it name after being destroyed 01:53:56 <Tggtt> Coiote_TTD, nonsense 01:53:59 <Coiote_TTD> i cannot win him with this 500k train ^^ 01:54:00 <Coiote_TTD> auheuhaehuha 01:54:16 <Tggtt> :/ 01:54:36 <Eddi|zuHause> suggestion: only destroy the station sign, if there is no cargo with that source left 01:54:36 <Coiote_TTD> we have to restart (again) =] 01:54:51 <Eddi|zuHause> requires a loop through all vehicles though 01:55:03 <Eddi|zuHause> but does not depend on cargo packets 01:55:32 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... vehicles and stations 01:55:32 <Tggtt> Eddi|zuHause, I got a idea 01:55:48 <Tggtt> every vehicle has a max speed 01:56:03 <Eddi|zuHause> bad idea ;) 01:56:10 <Tggtt> they should at least limit the cargo payment 01:56:22 <Tggtt> calculating by the max speed 01:56:39 <Tggtt> since it's impossible to a 1930's train to cross all the map 01:56:41 <Eddi|zuHause> other solution: if source is (0,0), make 0 money 01:56:58 <Tggtt> Eddi|zuHause, it would be another bug 01:57:07 <glx> Tggtt: why? 01:57:09 <Tggtt> but at least not as strange as that 01:57:15 <Coiote_TTD> why?! 01:57:21 <glx> you can't have a station at 0,0 01:57:24 <Coiote_TTD> i think it would not 01:57:27 <Eddi|zuHause> if the behaviour is intended, it is per definition not a bug ;) 01:57:40 <Tggtt> glx, but if someone destroy his sstation 01:57:44 <Tggtt> he would get no payment 01:57:53 <Eddi|zuHause> that's his fault 01:57:55 <glx> his fault :D 01:57:58 <Tggtt> hehe 01:57:58 <Tggtt> ok 01:57:59 <Coiote_TTD> its better then have a 500k station 01:58:33 <Coiote_TTD> but, Tggtt for now...lets restart?! =] 01:58:43 <Coiote_TTD> or u can spend your money =] 01:58:51 <Coiote_TTD> its not fair =/ 01:59:00 <Tggtt> Eddi|zuHause, or maybe, find the nearest source to the cargo type.. 01:59:36 <glx> no that's a bad idea 02:00:07 <Eddi|zuHause> that'd require the algorithm to go through the entire map... 02:00:15 <Eddi|zuHause> that's a really bad idea 02:00:23 <glx> imagine on a 2048x2048 02:00:34 <Eddi|zuHause> a solution should either be fast, or proper (better both) 02:00:41 <Eddi|zuHause> the proper solution is cargo packets 02:00:53 <Eddi|zuHause> and that may still take a while 02:01:15 <Tggtt> Eddi|zuHause, ok, but the 0 payment should be the better idea while it doesn't come 02:01:43 <Tggtt> since there can be no buildings near to the edge 02:01:44 <Coiote_TTD> glx another idea: cargo from 0,0 station will get 1$ per tons =] 02:02:01 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, if i am not back in 5 minutes, something probably went wrong with my kernel update... 02:02:27 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77496.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:02:39 <Tggtt> Coiote_TTD, i can store a cargo for 10 years and sell it as 1$? 02:02:47 <Tggtt> oh sorry 02:02:49 <Tggtt> ok 02:02:56 <Tggtt> it still knows the time 02:02:59 <Tggtt> it took to get there 02:03:21 <Coiote_TTD> orrrr 02:03:37 <Coiote_TTD> a destroyed station will not be 0,0 02:03:58 <Coiote_TTD> it can keep its place (like 15,90) 02:04:10 <Coiote_TTD> orr no 02:04:14 <Coiote_TTD> it would be another bug 02:04:26 <Coiote_TTD> we couldnt build another station in that place... 02:04:39 <Tggtt> of course we can 02:04:47 <Tggtt> while the sign is grey 02:04:54 <Coiote_TTD> not in this idea i gave 02:04:55 <Tggtt> you can build it again 02:05:12 <Coiote_TTD> they can just set 0,0 as unpaid =] 02:05:22 <Coiote_TTD> no place no money 02:05:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B777B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:05:24 <Coiote_TTD> its easy 02:05:25 <Coiote_TTD> =] 02:05:48 *** Ben_robbins_ [~Ben@82.152.216.53] has left #openttd [Leaving] 02:05:58 <glx> wb Eddi|zuHause :) 02:06:02 <Tggtt> Coiote_TTD, that's what they said... 02:06:20 <Coiote_TTD> yes 02:06:22 <Coiote_TTD> i saw it 02:08:51 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not over yet, must update ati drivers now ;) 02:09:13 <Eddi|zuHause> honestly, i am quite impressed it even booted into X ;) 02:09:15 <glx> good luck :) 02:09:26 <Coiote_TTD> Eddi|zuHause what r u doing? 02:09:32 <Coiote_TTD> formating? 02:09:46 <glx> no just updating 02:10:16 <Coiote_TTD> glx u good in TTD? or only good in build it?! 02:10:37 <glx> hmm? 02:10:46 <Coiote_TTD> dont understand? 02:11:02 <glx> it was unclear :) 02:11:18 <Coiote_TTD> r u a good player?! 02:11:21 <Coiote_TTD> ^^ 02:11:31 <Coiote_TTD> now its easier to understand =] 02:11:48 <glx> I'm not a newbie :) 02:12:00 <Coiote_TTD> LoL 02:12:01 <Coiote_TTD> ^^ 02:12:20 <glx> but my junctions can be very badly designed :D 02:12:29 <Coiote_TTD> im working on it 02:12:36 <Coiote_TTD> they r becomming very good =] 02:12:42 <Coiote_TTD> and good looking =] 02:12:49 <Coiote_TTD> today i made some real nice 02:12:54 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B777B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:13:20 <Coiote_TTD> i need to know, badly, how to use a singular tipe of the pre-signals 02:13:34 <Coiote_TTD> that one vertical yellow 02:13:43 <Digitalfox> Well i guess that most of us that started playing TTO in 94, should know a bit of playing, but i see people that started a couple months ago making super cool junctions 02:14:00 <glx> vertical yellow is combo 02:14:06 <Coiote_TTD> Digitalfox the first time i saw ttd, was in 2002 02:14:23 <Coiote_TTD> glx how it works? 02:14:38 <Coiote_TTD> glx i use only that horizontal yellow, and vertical gray 02:14:56 <Coiote_TTD> this vertical yellow always screw my lines =] 02:15:03 <Tggtt> LOL 02:15:22 <Tggtt> 2002? 02:15:29 <Coiote_TTD> yes... 02:15:34 <Digitalfox> I made a friend 2 months ago, play OpenTTD, guess what!! He plays almosto better than me.. He's now a addicted person, always building 2048*2048 maps, fully builded.. I mean 90% 02:15:35 <Coiote_TTD> i think is it 02:15:42 <Tggtt> I saw it in 1996 02:15:53 <Coiote_TTD> Digitalfox in single player? 02:15:55 <Tggtt> the original one 02:16:11 <Digitalfox> yes in single player, he uses a lot the pause mode 02:16:19 <Coiote_TTD> Digitalfox wow...he is crazy ^^ 02:16:23 <glx> and cheat money ? 02:16:30 <Coiote_TTD> or he doesnt have anithing more interesting to do ^^ 02:16:45 <Coiote_TTD> glx where can i read about the pre-signs? 02:16:52 <Digitalfox> i know!! He doesn't use cheat money mode.. 02:16:54 <Tggtt> lol 02:16:59 <Tggtt> I got bugged money 02:17:01 <glx> Coiote_TTD: try the wiki 02:17:48 <Coiote_TTD> glx check if im right: the vertical yellow is combo, then, he only get green when all the combo pre-sing in the line is unblocked? 02:17:50 <Digitalfox> What he does, is to build a couple of trains earn some money, and the pause with some more trains building, then again he turns play mode, more money pause mode.... 02:18:15 <Coiote_TTD> Digitalfox he needs a women =] 02:18:20 <Tggtt> LOL 02:18:20 <glx> Coiote_TTD: no it's green when one exit is green 02:18:22 <Coiote_TTD> Digitalfox or a beer =] 02:18:28 <Digitalfox> he has.. :) Hes married.. ;) 02:18:43 <Coiote_TTD> Digitalfox omg!!! his wife must hate TTD LoL 02:19:07 <Digitalfox> But his wife works with computers too, so while he's in TTD she's in Photoshop drawing cool pictures 02:19:22 <glx> Coiote_TTD: combo is just an exit + entry at the same place 02:19:24 <Coiote_TTD> glx well in this case, why use it? i can think a usefull line to it 02:19:38 <glx> in station entry 02:19:53 <Coiote_TTD> but that is what vertical gray does 02:19:55 <Tggtt> I got a 2000 tonnes train now 02:20:37 <Coiote_TTD> Digitalfox this digital world is becomming crazy LoL 02:21:22 <Coiote_TTD> see ya guys.... 02:21:22 <Digitalfox> Going to bed, tomorrow i have a reunion with the owner of a company with 300 pc's, and he want's me and my own company to manage the network.. eh eh eh, i'll have to use all my certicates of microsoft, to convince him, for the money i take.. MCSE 02:21:42 <Coiote_TTD> well 02:21:47 <Coiote_TTD> i have a test to do tomorrow 02:21:48 <Coiote_TTD> ^^ 02:21:56 <Digitalfox> Good luck 02:22:07 <Coiote_TTD> GL u too 02:22:36 <Digitalfox> I'll ask him 3000$ eatch month.. :) 02:22:43 <Coiote_TTD> wtffffffffffffff 02:22:44 <Coiote_TTD> auehuaueh 02:22:55 <glx> Coiote_TTD: http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/combo_example.png 02:23:06 <Coiote_TTD> glx tnv 02:23:07 <Coiote_TTD> tnx 02:23:11 <Coiote_TTD> i will check it 02:23:23 <Coiote_TTD> Digitalfox man...i only need 1k each month to be happier =] 02:23:26 <Coiote_TTD> LoL 02:23:44 <Digitalfox> It's 17 servers, with DNS servers, DHCP servers, i don't the rest, but it's a lot of work, for me and my employes 02:23:55 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-175-168.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:24:04 <Coiote_TTD> glx i dont understand the use of it =/ 02:24:10 <Coiote_TTD> i need see it working 02:24:12 <Coiote_TTD> =/ 02:24:13 <Digitalfox> i don't the rest = I don't know the rest 02:24:50 <Coiote_TTD> Digitalfox my brother works with this too 02:24:54 <Coiote_TTD> but he hates it =] 02:25:22 <Digitalfox> Well i like it, because i have to work with a lot of new technlogy, and that's pretty cool :) 02:26:02 <Digitalfox> And i can have always the lasted cpu, motherboard, etc.. With retail prices ;) 02:26:16 <Coiote_TTD> lol 02:26:18 <Coiote_TTD> one day 02:26:20 <Coiote_TTD> come to brazil 02:26:33 <Coiote_TTD> lol 02:26:40 <Coiote_TTD> these things r too expensive 02:26:42 <Coiote_TTD> even games 02:26:51 <Digitalfox> Wait, maybe that's why i i'm not milionaire... I spend it on my car and computers.. Oh and my girlfriend... :( ;) 02:27:01 <Digitalfox> I'm from Portugal Brazilian friend 02:27:05 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7705D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:27:07 <Coiote_TTD> ah 02:27:09 <Coiote_TTD> entao vc entende 02:27:12 <Coiote_TTD> portugues 02:27:12 <Coiote_TTD> =] 02:27:14 <Digitalfox> claro 02:27:20 <Coiote_TTD> hahahaha 02:27:28 <Aracirion> gn 02:27:34 *** Aracirion [~Aracirion@c-82-192-249-238.customer.ggaweb.ch] has left #openttd [] 02:27:35 <Digitalfox> but let's tal english for the others understand :) 02:28:49 <glx> Eddi|zuHause: hehe 3 min for kernel update, 15min for ati 02:29:24 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7705D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:30:08 <Coiote_TTD> tnx glx i will try another day 02:30:15 <Coiote_TTD> i think i understood that 02:30:19 <Coiote_TTD> see ya 02:30:23 <glx> bye 02:31:06 *** Coiote_TTD [~brunbru@BHE200139130109.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:31:33 <Digitalfox> bye everybody.. Good night :) 02:32:07 *** Digitalfox [~digitalfo@bl8-40-141.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [] 02:33:00 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7680F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:33:54 <Eddi|zuHause> glx: graphic driver updates are a pain 02:34:03 <glx> I know 02:34:20 <Eddi|zuHause> now the XVideo support disappeared 02:34:43 <Eddi|zuHause> and SaX2 refuses to start 02:37:12 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 02:39:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7680F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:44:31 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7680F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:53:34 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7680F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:56:30 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B762C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:57:31 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:58:47 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:58:47 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:59:18 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:01:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B762C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 03:01:58 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B762C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:02:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B762C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:06:38 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75F84.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:12:17 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75E67.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:13:41 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:16:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75F84.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:20:44 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:27:19 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75C87.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:27:19 *** robobed [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:29:01 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75E67.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:35:02 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75B8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:36:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> this is so bad.. i got the xvideo configuration working, but as soon as i use it, the entire system hangs 03:37:43 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75B8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:38:10 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75B8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:38:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75C87.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:42:26 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> cation.oftc.net quits: Ailure, coronel, CasB 03:43:57 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75ADB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:44:31 *** Netsplit over, joins: CasB, Ailure, coronel 03:47:51 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75B8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:52:33 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75ADB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:52:59 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75ADB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:58:03 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B758B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:59:39 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B758B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:00:07 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B758B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:00:45 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7BA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:01:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75ADB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:09:53 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:30:01 *** michi_cc [307255a31d@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:32:30 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7BA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 04:33:18 *** michi_cc [03507d0572@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 04:33:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 04:41:34 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 04:56:19 <jotham_> deepmix.ru saved my life 04:56:20 <jotham_> so many nights of working late 04:56:22 <jotham_> squarewavesftw 05:18:25 <Nigel_> hmmm, this bridge junction is good 05:26:31 <Nigel_> i'm actually amazed i managed to get the signals right (it seems) 05:29:36 <jotham_> screenie? 05:33:26 <Nigel_> yeah, i've just finished working on it 05:33:31 <Nigel_> it's basically L_B_B_B_R 05:34:02 <Nigel_> i had L_B_R but that caused too many hold ups 05:43:16 <Nigel_> jotham_, uploading now 05:46:42 *** xkill [~wntrmut@clx-ac2-40-3.westend.com] has joined #openttd 05:48:42 *** riot [~wntrmut@clx-ac2-214-3.westend.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:48:56 <Nigel_> http://www.nigelj.com/screenshots/openttdbridgejunction.png 05:49:45 <jotham_> cool 05:51:06 *** Tggtt [Tggtt@201-43-10-55.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference] 06:16:50 *** [1]imaginner [~imaginner@aclq52.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 06:19:11 *** imaginner [~imaginner@aclq52.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19:11 *** [1]imaginner is now known as imaginner 06:20:22 <Nigel_> man, that junction is go effective, it holds the rest of the network up 06:28:24 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7BA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:34:38 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:18:48 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 07:24:02 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:24:02 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 07:24:02 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:26:04 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7BA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 07:30:10 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:49:16 <Nigel_> the waypoints in trunk are the ones that don't keep stats? 07:53:56 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 08:04:29 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@intmail.vgtz.com] has joined #openttd 08:05:06 <Smoky555> hello :) 08:05:17 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:07:30 <Smoky555> does newgrf files loading with the game start? i asked about this, because in the last svn (7494) when i enable russianw.grf file (for cyrillic symbols) a get in main menu the strings like that "???????? ????", but the game runs normal (all russian symbols seems ok) 08:08:45 <Smoky555> i see the "???????? ????" only in main menu :( 08:09:09 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> arion.oftc.net quits: A1win, +tokai, jotham, tosse, @Belugas_Gone, roboboy, qfh, kdr, valhallasw 08:09:30 *** Netsplit over, joins: valhallasw 08:09:45 *** Netsplit over, joins: A1win 08:09:55 *** Netsplit over, joins: kdr 08:09:57 *** jotham [~drone@roo.sporkism.org] has joined #openttd 08:10:21 *** Netsplit over, joins: tosse 08:10:21 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:12:26 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 08:12:29 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 08:15:14 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84A15.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:15:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 08:20:36 *** qfh [~qfh@static-ip-62-75-161-163.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #openttd 08:38:36 *** CIA-1 [cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [] 08:38:38 *** CIA-2 [cia@cia.navi.cx] has joined #openttd 08:38:50 *** CIA-1 [cia@cia.navi.cx] has joined #openttd 08:38:50 *** CIA-2 [cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [] 08:43:39 *** peter1138 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 08:44:02 <Nigel_> jotham_ heh, finally got to upgrade my bridge junction 08:44:12 <jotham_> hook me up 08:45:48 <peter1138> Good morning. 08:48:36 <Nigel_> tubular steel now :P 08:49:04 <Nigel_> although that kinda defeats the purpose now 08:51:41 *** CIA-1 [cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:52:04 <Nigel_> it can handle quite a lot of short trains, i'll tell you that much 08:52:52 <Nigel_> http://www.nigelj.com/screenshots/openttdbridgejunction2.png 08:53:39 <Nigel_> that would be better if it was say over say 25/30 odd water tiles 08:54:03 <jotham_> int he bottom right in the foreground there is grass in the middle of your track (running west to east) 08:54:45 <Nigel_> right on the edge? 08:54:47 <Nigel_> thats a tree 08:55:01 <jotham_> no 08:55:12 <jotham_> approaching the bridge, it's 4 tiles long 08:55:15 <jotham_> parallel to the track 08:55:20 <jotham_> oh it's a train 08:55:23 <jotham_> man i must be tired 08:55:39 <jotham_> i was like, wtf someone ripped the track up and put little yellow road blocks on it 08:55:45 <Nigel_> haha 08:57:48 <Nigel_> i actually created it after seeing a thing on the openttdcoop wiki about L_B_R mainlines 08:57:59 <jotham_> URL? 08:58:06 <jotham_> i am trying to learn about such things 08:58:21 <Nigel_> decided it'd be useful for bridges because atm you can't put signals on bridges 08:59:01 <Nigel_> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/LBR_Mainlines 09:01:05 <Nigel_> i basically had a L_B_R bridge combo, it worked but not too effiecently, (no screeny sorry), so i made the gap on the line to the powerplant oil ref & Pax Station to triple gapped, and did that 09:02:42 <Nigel_> something like that could be used on land as well too... if you had a triple gap 09:05:02 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:05:24 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB45FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:13:00 *** CIA-1 [cia@cia.navi.cx] has joined #openttd 09:23:01 *** CIA-1 [cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:34:44 <Nigel_> http://www.nigelj.com/screenshots/openttdjunctionoutline.png is a better outline for those that are interested 09:39:15 <jotham_> i need to give it a go 09:43:00 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]] 09:44:56 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 10:10:30 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 10:15:03 <Brianetta> LBR wasn't as efective as other mainline designs that took much less psace 10:16:47 <Nigel_> Brianetta, yeah, my use however isn't really for mainlines exactly 10:17:06 <Nigel_> just a plain L___R mainline, but that at congested sea crossings etc 10:18:56 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:27:04 <Smoky555> hi :) Who can tell me about loading NewGRF files in the gamestart (main menu) ? 10:27:17 <peter1138> me 10:29:51 <Smoky555> russianw.grf (with russian symbols) is in openttd.cfg ([newgrf] section). When i start a game and choose "russian" language, i get a main menu looks like this : "???????? ????", but when i create a new game (generating map, etc.) - all interface looks normal (in russian). 10:30:07 <peter1138> put it in the newgrf-static section 10:30:17 *** CIA-1 [cia@cia.navi.cx] has joined #openttd 10:31:20 <Smoky555> yep :) working thanks :) 10:36:37 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.216] has joined #openttd 10:43:05 *** BFM_ [~BurningFe@60.227.109.191] has joined #openttd 10:46:36 *** BFM [~BurningFe@CPE-60-227-109-191.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:46:48 *** BFM_ is now known as BFM 10:50:06 * Brianetta is restoring the last of his newgrfs 10:50:12 <Brianetta> Back at wrk 10:50:20 * Brianetta hugs his crypto keys flash disk 10:50:39 <Brianetta> I'm also restoring saved games and screenshots 10:51:52 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB45FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 10:56:57 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:03:51 <peter1138> heh 11:05:03 <peter1138> hee, sirkoz in 'missed the point' shock 11:06:25 <Darkvater> morning 11:06:47 <Darkvater> peter1138: I've been playing a little 'demo' game yesterday with newgrf files. 2 things are wrong :) 11:07:13 <Darkvater> 1. in SP being able to change newgrf list ingame. I hacked it in and after save/load the grf files were active :) 11:07:28 <Darkvater> 2. don't try to use cheat landscape-change with some newgrf files, openttd crashes ;p 11:07:57 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:10:04 <peter1138> who what? 11:10:28 <peter1138> changing the landscape was always a bad hack anyway ;p 11:10:47 <Darkvater> I know, that was just for fun..although I was surprised it crash 11:10:57 <Darkvater> it was a release build so I didn't debug..just wanted to play 11:11:03 <Darkvater> but I think 1.) was already planned 11:11:11 <peter1138> usually because the game references sprites that aren't available any more 11:11:34 <peter1138> 1 is possible, but can suffer the same problems as 2 11:11:42 <Darkvater> hmm it looked like the landscape-cheat reloaded all sprites though 11:11:59 <Brianetta> Getting floating point exceptions compiling language files 11:12:02 <Brianetta> Is that normal? 11:12:13 <Darkvater> could be, but it is highly desirable. Until I figured out what to change I couldn't add harbour graphics or stolentrees 11:12:20 <Darkvater> Brianetta: for you? always ;p 11:12:27 <peter1138> yes, it reloads sprites, but if a grf only works in temperate, its sprites won't be available in a different climate 11:12:40 <Brianetta> /bin/sh: line 1: 23046 Floating point exceptionstrgen/strgen -s lang -d lang lang/american.txt 11:12:45 <Brianetta> and so on for more languages 11:12:49 <peter1138> maybe MiHaMiX has broken them again ;-) 11:13:07 <peter1138> Brianetta: that looks like an exception in sh... 11:13:18 <peter1138> but, who knows 11:13:28 <Brianetta> I don't know 11:13:30 <Brianetta> I just type make 11:13:48 <Brianetta> Hasn't stopped the build 11:13:55 <peter1138> Darkvater: my desync debuggable game is now 1959... no desyncs yet 11:14:05 <peter1138> last time they started very late 11:14:19 <peter1138> annoying though 11:14:25 <Brianetta> Interestingly, I have to re-make openttd when switching from FC5 to FC6 11:14:28 <Brianetta> It has to relink 11:14:29 <peter1138> sometimes gdb catches a SIG_PIPE when someone disconnects 11:16:12 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 11:16:12 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 11:18:31 <Darkvater> peter1138: he, of course it doesn't desync when you test 11:19:03 <Darkvater> peter1138: that is with the pos-cache + unsavables saved? 11:20:18 <Darkvater> I think however that point 1). definitely needs to be possible in SP. Right now it is actually a step back. As said you cannot add for example SAC's trees if you started your game without it. I am fine with the behaviour that you add them and they're disabled at first, only after save/load or some 'activate' button they become activated...at your own risk of course as it has been until now 11:22:23 * roboman is tired 11:23:06 <Rubidium> hmm, maybe add a new 'category' of newgrfs that can be safely added/removed from a game, i.e. the ones that replace graphics or change some settings and then make it possible to add/remove those in SP. 11:23:43 <peter1138> Darkvater: no, this is with the data dump, and just running in gdb to check things 11:24:04 <peter1138> we have that 11:24:13 <peter1138> [newgrf-static] 11:24:19 <peter1138> sac's trees work fine there 11:24:28 <roboman> peter1138 your newgrf window is much better than the old one 11:24:59 <roboman> it makes alot more sense 11:26:01 <Rubidium> peter1138: yes, but the category I proposed is the superset of newgrf-static, as my proposed category also includes GRFs that modify costs etc, but do not add new sprites etc that can cause missing sprite problems etc. 11:26:05 <Darkvater> Rubidium: that's only needed for MP, in SP you can do anything you want imho. Your own risk 11:26:30 <Darkvater> peter1138: eg I added harboursw.grf or whatever it's called later in the game 11:26:34 <peter1138> yup 11:26:45 <peter1138> Darkvater: as you know, it's easy to allow, heh 11:26:50 <Darkvater> that wouldn't be safe, but worked just fine 11:27:10 <peter1138> adding or removing stations is perfectly safe in single player 11:27:11 * roboman folds out the bed and locks it into position. 11:27:23 <Rubidium> Darkvater: in SP you shouldn't be able to remove newstatsw as it can cause crashes etc (which causes bug reports), though something like 'pb_build' that only increases costs should be removable from SP 11:27:35 <Darkvater> peter1138: but not in MP, thus you cannot add it to newgrf-static 11:27:37 <peter1138> Darkvater: the only real problem is vehicle sets 11:28:06 *** roboman is now known as robobed^ 11:28:22 <peter1138> changing wagons and engines and planes to helicopter, and vice versa, causes issues 11:28:34 <Darkvater> Rubidium: thus do it at your own risk 11:28:55 <Darkvater> that is why originally it was proposed to be very strict for MP but allow such things in SP with a big fat warning 11:29:32 <robobed^> yeah 11:29:35 <robobed^> i agree 11:30:04 <robobed^> it makes life easier and people helping with junctions dont need the grf then 11:30:26 <Darkvater> peter1138: are you aware of some bugs in DBSetXL 0.82 (eg passanger wagon shows up as iron ore)? 11:31:06 <Darkvater> I'll have a more close look at home though cause it might've had interference from cargoset 11:31:20 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-29.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 11:32:25 <peter1138> must be cargoset 11:32:33 <peter1138> cos i've never used that 11:32:40 <peter1138> and we don't support it 11:32:52 <Darkvater> we don't? That thing is from 2003 11:32:58 <Darkvater> it's ancient 11:35:08 *** Sydolas [~Sydolas@i5387450A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:35:30 <Sydolas> hallo 11:37:36 <Brianetta> hello Sydolas 11:38:10 <Sydolas> my english a very bad 11:38:44 <Brianetta> ok 11:39:31 <Brianetta> Ich spreche ein Bißchen Deutsch 11:39:41 <Sydolas> i serach the version r7474 miniIn for linux dedicated server and fuer win32 client 11:40:01 * Brianetta sucht 11:42:25 <Brianetta> Ich habe nür 7483 gefunden 11:42:45 <Darkvater> ach schade :) 11:42:46 <Brianetta> heh, nut 11:42:47 <Brianetta> heh, nur 11:43:00 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0D23A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:43:08 <Sydolas> da gehn nur kein e-loks 11:43:21 <Brianetta> ja 9: 11:43:23 <Brianetta> (L: 11:43:31 <Brianetta> typo 11:43:45 <Darkvater> e-loks? 11:43:56 <Sydolas> elokto trains 11:44:17 <Darkvater> Brianetta: elrails has worked for ages...or has miniin done something special? 11:44:39 <Brianetta> Darkvater: It should work, I thought 11:45:04 <Sydolas> elrailsw.grf dies wird von der 7483 nicht genommen 11:45:31 <peter1138> ah, you don't need to include it in the grf config 11:45:32 <Brianetta> Sydolas: Hast du eine elektrische Adlage gebaut? 11:45:56 <Brianetta> ABlage, oder 11:46:21 <Sydolas> ja aber in der 7243 , sie version wirft mich aber immer uas 11:46:22 * Brianetta consults dictionary 11:46:30 <Brianetta> der Güterbahnhof 11:46:36 <Sydolas> raus wenn ich ssie auf meinem rootserver laufen lasse 11:46:40 <Tefad> is that utf-8? 11:46:48 <Tefad> if so, i can read it, woo. 11:46:57 <Brianetta> es muss elektrische sein um das e-loko zu einkaufen 11:47:10 <Sydolas> ja 11:47:12 <Tefad> gefunden is found yes? 11:47:30 <Brianetta> Tefad: I'm struggling for words - I mean to build 11:47:47 <Darkvater> bauen ;p 11:47:56 <Sydolas> habt ihr teamspeak 11:47:59 <Tefad> i only know from a 404 error from long ago : x 11:48:17 <Brianetta> nein, ohne teamspeak 11:48:25 <Sydolas> fals ja dzdz.de:5100 pw tycoon 11:49:15 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D78B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:50:06 <Sydolas> woran kann es leigen das man staendig einen disconnect bekommt bei der 7243 11:50:40 <Darkvater> auf die stand der Sonne 11:50:51 <Darkvater> wir wissen es nicht genau 11:52:52 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-29.feld.cvut.cz] has left #openttd [] 11:57:02 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:01:46 *** robobed^ [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:26:42 <peter1138> yay, no steamers left 12:31:07 <Darkvater> expire_engines off ;p 12:38:36 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-175-168.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:40:42 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-155.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:51:13 <peter1138> ow 12:51:20 <peter1138> no, i mean i have none 12:51:21 <Naksu> anyone familiar with text-mode programming? 12:51:29 <peter1138> ... 12:52:23 * Rubidium wonders what completely non-text programming languages there are; LabView maybe? 12:52:25 <blathijs> Naksu: "text-mode programming" ? 12:52:41 <blathijs> Naksu: Ie, curses and stuff? 12:53:06 <Naksu> well, i'm thinking of dos/windows stuff mainly 12:53:21 *** Jhs [~jhsdunada@ti231210a080-0969.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 12:53:27 *** Jhs [~jhsdunada@ti231210a080-0969.bb.online.no] has left #openttd [] 12:54:02 <Naksu> i'm wondering if there's some sort of a screen-like mode available :D 12:57:13 <blathijs> Naksu: I think you want to look at curses 12:57:19 <blathijs> or ncurses IIRC 12:58:47 <Naksu> i think that what i want is 12:59:10 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB45FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:59:40 <Naksu> instead of a mode where every line is added to the bottom with a backlog of sorts, i could pick a row to change or something 13:01:43 <Sacro> Naksu: borland C had that 13:02:03 <Naksu> Sacro: i'm guessing everything has it 13:02:13 <blathijs> Naksu: That's exactly what ncurses will give you 13:02:22 <peter1138> blathijs: on windows? hmm 13:02:28 <blathijs> not sure about windows support, though 13:02:43 <Sacro> cygwin 13:02:51 <Naksu> ... 13:02:52 <Sacro> that has mc, which is written in ncurses 13:02:59 <Naksu> sacro 13:03:06 <Sacro> me! 13:03:09 <Naksu> no cygwin 13:03:09 <Naksu> ever 13:03:20 <Sacro> oh, ok 13:04:18 <Naksu> i'm kinda interested in making a roguelike :) 13:06:46 <Rubidium> Naksu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code (for when you are adventurous) 13:07:01 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CCC8.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 13:07:23 <Rubidium> it works in MS-DOS, so any windows should support it too 13:08:38 <Brianetta> * if you remembereed to load ansi.sys 13:10:36 <Naksu> well 13:10:56 <Naksu> i hope that's not the only way 13:11:08 <blathijs> well, that's exactly how ncurses works 13:11:25 <blathijs> It justs generates the correct escape codes for the commands you give 13:11:49 <blathijs> VT100 escape by default, but I'd expect they would also support dos / windows escape codes 13:14:03 <blathijs> hmm, can't seem to find any evidence of the latter... 13:18:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F4DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:30:37 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@intmail.vgtz.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:34 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-175-168.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:46:36 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84A15.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:48:07 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84C04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:48:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:51:03 *** xkill is now known as riot 13:53:30 *** riot [~wntrmut@clx-ac2-40-3.westend.com] has left #openttd [] 13:55:23 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-155.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 13:56:22 *** Sjoerd- [~bla@ip54576152.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:58:48 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:02:24 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 14:09:37 *** CasB [~casb@ip145-160-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:15:14 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.8/2006102516]] 14:16:42 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:18:44 *** YogSothoth__ [~john@lns-bzn-23-82-248-80-57.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 14:19:45 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 14:26:54 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0F881.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:32:50 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0D23A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:36:55 <Darkvater> vry qutj haer 14:37:00 <Darkvater> hmm 14:37:05 <Darkvater> I was saying: very quiet here 14:38:37 <Brianetta> Duth is just English with massive typos 14:42:06 <hylje> indeed 14:42:27 <Darkvater> if that were only dutch ;p 14:43:36 <hylje> all languages are just english with massive typos 14:43:47 <hylje> the massivity of them determines how far it is 14:44:29 <Darkvater> I wouldn't go that far...english is a very basic language 14:44:41 <Brianetta> basic? 14:44:44 <Brianetta> I heard it was hard 14:44:57 <Brianetta> It's just a rip-off of German anyway 14:45:11 <Brianetta> which is why it's a little like Dutch and Swedish 14:45:39 <hylje> all of them are rip-off of latin 14:45:42 <Brianetta> no 14:45:47 <Brianetta> only the romance languages 14:46:02 <Brianetta> French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian usw 14:46:17 <Brianetta> Romance meaning "of Rome" 14:46:54 <Brianetta> English borrows words from French, and gets Latin routes that way, because we keep on having wars and/or interbreeding with them, 14:47:08 <Brianetta> but English, German, Dutch, Swedish and a few others are the Germanic languages 14:47:15 <Brianetta> which aren't Latin 14:47:31 <Brianetta> with the exception of the odd owrd 14:48:35 <Brianetta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_language 14:48:35 <Brianetta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_language 14:48:46 <Brianetta> They have maps (: 14:49:41 <peter1138> hmm, 1975 14:49:46 * peter1138 ponders some electrification 14:49:48 <Darkvater> desync! 14:49:51 <peter1138> nope 14:50:00 * Darkvater deems peter1138 useless 14:50:07 <peter1138> :( 14:50:08 <Brianetta> Electrify your east coast mainline! 14:50:45 <peter1138> i'd need to build it first 14:50:56 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.37] has joined #openttd 14:55:50 <peter1138> Maybe the short line that runs an old MC DMU... 14:56:30 <peter1138> Although the AM10 isn't much better 14:56:47 <Brianetta> new train = higher ratings 14:57:03 <Brianetta> at least, until 3 years of chewing gum 14:57:23 <peter1138> true 14:57:38 <peter1138> Could just replace it with another MC though :) 15:01:28 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 15:02:39 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:02:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 15:02:48 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F15B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:08:45 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0F881.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:14:45 <CIA-1> peter1138 * r7495 /trunk/ (newgrf.c newgrf_config.c newgrf_config.h): -Fix (r7354): [NewGRF] Deactivate the target GRF, not the current GRF. 15:17:43 *** DirtYiCE [~dirty_ice@84.236.50.38] has joined #openttd 15:29:04 * Brianetta updates 15:30:20 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 15:30:23 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 15:33:31 *** Belugas [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:39:41 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84C04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:45:16 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 15:54:52 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:59:11 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB45FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:59:45 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB45FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:07:32 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-155.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:25:06 *** Sydolas [~Sydolas@i5387450A.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 16:26:50 *** Sydolas [~Sydolas@i5387450A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:28:16 *** Sydolas [~Sydolas@i5387450A.versanet.de] has quit [] 16:28:18 *** Sydolas [~Sydolas@i5387450A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:28:59 <Sydolas> hallo 16:29:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> wir sprechen kein deutsch ;) 16:29:45 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-83-100-175-168.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:39:35 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8379F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:39:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:42:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F4DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:53:32 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0E041.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:55:50 <MUcht> !translate de_en hallo 16:56:01 <MUcht> erm ;-) 16:58:47 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB45FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:59:25 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F15B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:03:31 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:03:48 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB45FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:06:37 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0D87E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:06:38 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 17:11:07 <Darkvater> !openttd commit 17:11:14 <_42_> Commit by peter1138 :: r7495 /trunk/ (newgrf.c newgrf_config.c newgrf_config.h) (2006-12-14 15:14:29 UTC) 17:11:16 <_42_> -Fix (r7354): [NewGRF] Deactivate the target GRF, not the current GRF. 17:11:57 <Naksu> er 17:12:10 <Naksu> is there any way to package a perl script like python for win32 distribution? 17:12:49 <Naksu> in python you can have the runtime in a dll and an exe that starts the program 17:12:50 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0E041.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:17:24 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2Eat 17:27:55 * Brianetta updates 17:37:53 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust184.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:42:29 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host189-237-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:42:58 <Brianetta> openttd: saveload.c:844: SlLoadChunk: Assertion `SlGetOffs() == endoffs' failed. 17:43:49 <Wolf01> ello 17:44:05 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0DCC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:44:47 <Wolf01> tracert tron 17:44:48 <Rubidium> Brianetta: that doesn't sound right, or are you trying to load a MiniIN savegame in trunk? 17:45:20 <Brianetta> no 17:45:26 <Brianetta> I have never, ever, ever run te MiniIN 17:49:25 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0D87E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:49:54 <Brianetta> I'm also having trouble loading old saved games with their newgrfs 17:50:00 <Brianetta> I can load them without 17:50:07 <Brianetta> THey tend to get water tanks as brake vans... 17:50:12 <hylje> :o 17:50:22 <Brianetta> dbg: [Sl] Unknown savegame type, trying to load it as the buggy format. 17:50:23 <Brianetta> Load game failed: inconsistent size. 17:51:53 <Darkvater> that doesn't sound too good 17:51:55 <Rubidium> that sounds like some real corruption of those files to me 17:51:57 <Darkvater> that savegame is corrupted 17:52:10 <Brianetta> That last one loads fine 17:52:19 <Brianetta> if I don't specify any nerwgrfs 17:52:22 <peter1138> is this the same machine that was complaining during language compilation? 17:52:26 <Brianetta> no 17:52:32 <Brianetta> this is a machine about 2 miles from it 17:52:48 <Darkvater> 18:50 < Brianetta> Load game failed: inconsistent size. << this one loads fine without newgrf?? 17:52:50 <Brianetta> I'm just loading my old nightly server saves 17:52:55 <Rubidium> it is compiled with zlib? 17:52:55 <Brianetta> Darkvater: Yes. 17:53:05 <Brianetta> It loads without newgrfs. 17:53:14 <Brianetta> Like I said, the brake vans turn into water tanks. 17:53:25 <Darkvater> what do you mean without newgrfs? 17:53:30 <peter1138> they will do without newgrfs, heh 17:53:47 <Darkvater> you cannot load with or without newgrf, cause if it's not saved in there it's always without newgrf 17:53:48 <Brianetta> When there are no newgrfs in the config file, they load 17:53:58 <Darkvater> what happens after that is not the sl-code's business 17:54:01 <Brianetta> but they were saved with newgrfs 17:54:04 <Brianetta> in a previous revision 17:54:12 <Brianetta> before peter1138's changes 17:54:23 <peter1138> pre-newgrf saving 17:54:26 <Brianetta> yes 17:54:28 <Darkvater> before peter's changes there was no newgrf data in savegames 17:54:29 <Brianetta> ole UKRS games 17:54:33 <peter1138> in which case it should use the default newgrf list 17:54:50 <Brianetta> Well, if I have newgrfs, it fails to load 17:54:53 <peter1138> *nod* 17:55:01 <Brianetta> if I use my non-newgrf config file, it's fine 17:55:37 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:55:54 * Darkvater moves laptop within 10 inches of router to get connection... 17:55:58 <Brianetta> Not all saved games fail this way 17:56:15 <peter1138> but it only fails with newgrfs specified? 17:56:33 <Brianetta> yes 17:56:43 <Brianetta> r3360 dave 17:56:45 <Brianetta> save 17:56:55 <Brianetta> Just seeing if it's on my old nightly page for download 17:57:16 <Brianetta> http://ppcis.org/nightly/r3360.sav 17:58:51 <Brianetta> wait, it's working 17:58:58 <Brianetta> Ignore me - t'was a typo 17:59:04 <Darkvater> :O 17:59:10 <Brianetta> -g config.cfg 17:59:13 <Darkvater> now we are really curious what you were doing 17:59:17 <Brianetta> instead of -c 17:59:17 <Darkvater> he 17:59:24 <Brianetta> so that was two -g's 17:59:32 * Darkvater taps Brianetta on the shoulder 17:59:35 <peter1138> o_O 18:01:06 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0CF97.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:01:11 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/whateva.png << my feeble attempt to copy SAC ;p 18:01:58 <Darkvater> although I must say those trees really make a lot of difference 18:02:36 <Brianetta> MAN, these old saved games are totally lame witout PBS 18:02:49 <hylje> that's totally uncool 18:03:06 <Brianetta> Darkvater: You need her roads (: 18:03:30 <Darkvater> :) 18:07:25 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0DCC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:12:02 <tokai> Darkvater: this power line thingy looks a bit misplaced:) 18:13:09 <peter1138> hmm 18:13:09 <hylje> hm 18:13:15 <hylje> how portable is the catenary code 18:13:18 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D7A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:13:27 <hylje> it could be neat to make actual power lines 18:13:34 <Brianetta> no 18:13:34 <Darkvater> tokai: :) 18:13:41 <Brianetta> no power lines 18:13:57 <Brianetta> then you have to deliver coal to keep trains running - it's the next step! 18:14:02 <peter1138> Darkvater: for the intro screen? :) 18:14:11 <hylje> Brianetta: thats up to the balancing at 0.7 18:14:14 <Darkvater> no, just playing around with some newgrf 18:14:17 <peter1138> ah 18:14:39 <Brianetta> Balance schmalance. I like my passenger-only games. 18:15:23 <Wolf01> who want "more transparency options" in trunk? 18:15:35 <hylje> if its stable enough, why not 18:15:41 <Wolf01> yes 18:15:44 <Wolf01> is stable 18:16:00 <Wolf01> 3 or more months on miniIN 18:16:25 *** WolfAngel [~wolfangel@83.73.168.209.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #openttd 18:16:52 <Wolf01> and now i found the mistake i made syncing it with trunk 18:17:02 <Wolf01> CLRBIT instead of SETBIT 18:17:10 <hylje> nice documentation shipped with elrai.c 18:17:15 <hylje> s/elrai/elrail/ 18:17:35 <Wolf01> where can i submit the patch? 18:17:44 <hylje> bugtracker 18:17:50 <glx> http://bugs.openttd.org 18:17:54 <glx> as usual :) 18:19:25 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0CF97.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:20:02 <peter1138> "I'm sorry i'm not very good in English Embarassed . What is WTF?" 18:20:04 <peter1138> hehe 18:20:15 *** lolman [Tomsmate@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:21:28 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:21:34 *** lolman [Tomsmate@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 18:21:52 *** Rens2Eat is now known as Rens2Sea 18:22:48 <Wolf01> ok, done 18:23:28 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.238] has joined #openttd 18:24:44 *** Coiote_TTD [~brunbru@BHE200139137161.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #openttd 18:29:36 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-199.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 18:29:46 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176109176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:29:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> where can i find those trees? 18:30:06 <Coiote_TTD> trees? 18:30:10 <Coiote_TTD> there is some in my street =] 18:31:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> that may be true, but they are certainly not the ones i seek 18:31:45 <Coiote_TTD> what trees r u lokking at? 18:31:55 <Coiote_TTD> wich* 18:32:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/whateva.png 18:32:46 <Wolf01> (you must rewrite half the sentence) 18:32:52 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: SAC's trees 18:33:00 *** DirtYiCE [~dirty_ice@84.236.50.38] has left #openttd [] 18:33:15 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:33:24 <Coiote_TTD> glx today i tryed some options with that vertical yellow sign 18:33:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> "SAC's trees" is not a universal resource locator 18:33:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> :p 18:33:46 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=527234#527234 18:33:49 <Wolf01> here i think 18:33:51 <Coiote_TTD> glx now i understand how it works, but i still think thats uselles... =/ 18:34:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> i can't find it in grfcrawler 18:35:47 <Wolf01> is the one i linked? 18:36:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> just reading the post 18:44:48 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e182095100.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:45:24 *** Sydolas [~Sydolas@i5387450A.versanet.de] has left #openttd [] 18:47:34 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176109176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:48:47 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.37] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:49:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have the feeling, the [newgrf-static] thing was not synced with miniin yet... 18:50:19 <peter1138> it's synced far too regularly as it is, heh 18:50:38 <Coiote_TTD> Hey 18:50:44 <Coiote_TTD> Come to: ProGamimg server 18:50:51 <Coiote_TTD> if u r good enough 18:51:38 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: exact :) 18:51:46 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp83-237-101-19.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:51:50 <glx> I'll try to do it after dinner 18:58:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> while you are at it, www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/pbs_vs_diag_crossings.diff (solves an issue with unreserving a pbs path through diagonal crossings) 18:59:02 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:06:35 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 19:07:22 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC6D89.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:07:27 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 19:09:52 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 19:10:02 <MeusH> hello 19:10:55 <CIA-1> peter1138 * r7496 /trunk/newgrf.c: -Codechange: [NewGRF] Skip processing a GRF if it deactivated itself. 19:13:48 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 19:19:57 *** [1]imaginner [~imaginner@aclc80.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 19:22:54 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 19:23:30 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E29E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:25:40 *** Szandor [~2@host86-136-2-197.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:25:53 *** imaginner [~imaginner@aclq52.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:25:53 *** [1]imaginner is now known as imaginner 19:30:00 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D7A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:30:59 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0DABD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:31:00 <Coiote_TTD> join: pro gamim server 19:31:05 <Coiote_TTD> if u r good enough 19:32:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F4DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:37:45 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E29E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:44:49 <CIA-1> glx * r7497 /branches/MiniIN/pbs.c: [MiniIN] -Fix: return of PBSTileReserved() was incorrect for diagonnal crossing (Eddi) 19:46:01 <peter1138> pro gamim? 19:49:28 <Sacro> peter1138: misspelt server 19:52:07 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F608.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:54:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host189-237-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Wolf01_))] 19:54:07 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host189-237-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:58:40 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0DABD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:00:08 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0E236.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:01:00 <Brianetta> peter1138: People who attempt to join a game with the wrong newgrfs get a *** Nnn has left the game (could not load map) 20:01:07 <Brianetta> but they do not get the join mesage 20:01:22 <Brianetta> peter1138: I'd suggest simply not showing the quit message 20:01:27 <Brianetta> since they never actually show up 20:02:27 <peter1138> you don't see it in game 20:02:34 <peter1138> only on the dedicated console 20:02:52 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [] 20:03:39 <Brianetta> oh 20:04:14 *** WolfAngel [~wolfangel@83.73.168.209.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has quit [Quit: YES I'M SURE!] 20:04:16 <Brianetta> autopilot messes up its count for a bit, I'll have to add a thing to ignore quits with that message. 20:05:20 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F608.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:06:56 <Brianetta> wait, I don't need to 20:07:44 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 20:11:12 <Brianetta> it doesn't affect gameplay since the admin can use the built in pause thing 20:11:35 <Brianetta> and there's not much call for player counts apart from that... 20:11:55 <Brianetta> although the !playercount command could show fewer than actual players (eg, -12) 20:12:47 <CIA-1> glx * r7498 /branches/MiniIN/ (20 files in 5 dirs): [MiniIN] -Sync with trunk r7473:r7496 20:13:10 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> helium.oftc.net quits: BFM, Rexxie, Progman, Rubidium, Frostregen, Rens2Sea, XeryusTC, MeusH, Tefad, @orudge, (+31 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20:13:11 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@p549F037B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:13:15 *** Netsplit over, joins: XeryusTC, Progman, Szandor, imaginner, MeusH, KritiK, Zavior, Coiote_TTD, gass, DJ_Mirage (+30 more) 20:13:26 <Brianetta> welcome back, splitters 20:14:14 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E1BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:15:43 *** Szandor [~2@host86-136-2-197.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 20:16:06 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.216] has joined #openttd 20:18:00 <jotham_> SQUAREWAVEHIFIVE 20:18:14 *** Netsplit helium.oftc.net <-> osmosis.oftc.net quits: BFM, Rexxie, Rubidium, Frostregen, Zahl, Tefad, @orudge, Prof_Frink, KUDr_wrk, Purno, (+18 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20:18:23 *** Netsplit over, joins: Zahl, gass, DJ_Mirage, Prof_Frink, Purno, BFM, jotham, kdr, A1win, +michi_cc (+18 more) 20:18:54 *** mode/#openttd [+o MiHaMiX] by ChanServ 20:18:54 *** michi_cc [03507d0572@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:18:57 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 20:20:35 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0E236.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:23:46 <Sacro> whoa 20:23:50 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0F25E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:24:39 <Purno> whoa indeed 20:24:47 <MeusH> whoa, oh yes 20:24:53 <Sacro> i was all alone :( 20:24:57 <Purno> :( 20:25:00 <Purno> me too it seems 20:27:57 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.37] has joined #openttd 20:29:30 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E1BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:32:13 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-186-090.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:32:56 <Ailure> [21:20] <jotham_> SQUAREWAVEHIFIVE 20:32:59 <Ailure> i blame this guy 20:32:59 <Ailure> :D 20:33:19 <Sacro> Ailure: he does seem suspicious 20:33:54 <Sacro> jotham_: oh bringer of netsplits, BE SUMMONED 20:35:26 <Coiote_TTD> come to: Pro gaming server 20:35:55 * jotham_ sobs 20:37:11 <Ailure> shouts something about how square waves rocks 20:37:12 <Ailure> :D 20:37:15 <Ailure> and you cause netsplits 20:37:16 <Ailure> lol 20:37:30 <Ailure> ironic, as I was listening to a such song right now 20:38:12 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-047.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:38:14 <jotham_> haha 20:38:23 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 20:38:49 <Sacro> i think jotham_ has the circuit breaker 20:39:03 <jotham_> heh this forums subheading on the logo is 'run by gods. powered by idiots.' 20:39:18 <Sacro> tt-forums? 20:39:22 <jotham_> yes 20:39:24 <jotham_> yes it is 20:46:35 <jotham_> dunbroooked my computer code 20:46:36 <jotham_> :\ 20:46:49 <Ailure> that dosen't make sense 20:47:28 <Sacro> it does to me 20:47:42 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CCC8.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 20:54:54 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F03D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:58:02 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 21:00:45 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0F25E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:14 *** joaz [~joaz@dslb-084-060-211-003.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:09:12 <Coiote_TTD> come to ProGaming server 21:09:16 <Coiote_TTD> we r PRO! 21:09:22 <Coiote_TTD> LoL 21:09:23 <Coiote_TTD> auehaheuhuhae 21:09:25 <Coiote_TTD> but come... 21:09:26 <Coiote_TTD> =] 21:11:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> may i request measurements against this kind of spam from the operators of this channel? 21:13:28 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:14:20 <jotham_> what kind of spam? 21:14:21 <jotham_> SQUAREWAVEHIFIVE 21:14:26 <jotham_> oh Coiote_TTD 21:14:33 * jotham_ slaps Coiote_TTD in a manly way 21:15:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, i mean the netsplit messages, of course :p 21:15:42 <hylje> Eddi|zuHause2: get a real irc client 21:15:54 <hylje> > 22:12:58 -!- Netsplit helium.oftc.net <-> charon.oftc.net quits: kampasky, Brianetta, Wolfy, egladil, mikk36, izhirahider, eQualizer, imachine_, Noldo 21:16:41 *** Coiote_TTD was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [Don't care what you are] 21:16:53 *** Coiote_TTD [~brunbru@BHE200139137161.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #openttd 21:16:55 <jotham_> wow Belugas == STONE COLD 21:16:58 <Coiote_TTD> sorry =/ 21:17:57 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e182095100.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 21:18:46 <Belugas> it's ok, just please do not do it again. I find it quite rude. I hate unwanted publicity 21:19:08 <Belugas> and... well.. sorry if i offended... 21:19:31 <peter1138> i know you are but what am i? 21:20:16 <Sacro> :o 21:20:34 <Sacro> peter1138: i am rubber, you are glue, what bounces off me, sticks to you 21:21:16 <jotham_> hehe unwanted publicity 21:21:27 <jotham_> i think Coiote_TTD is just overly salacious 21:22:00 <Sacro> OpenTTD IS AN AMAZING GAME - VIST http://www.openttd.org!!! LOLZORS 21:22:37 <peter1138> sacro... 21:22:50 <Sacro> yes...? 21:22:59 <jotham_> you may never be in advertising, ever 21:23:03 <jotham_> by threat of execution 21:23:04 <Sacro> oh :( 21:23:49 *** Szandor [~2@host86-136-2-197.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:24:29 *** Hadez [~chatzilla@151.244.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 21:26:09 <peter1138> heh 21:26:14 <peter1138> slowest server connection error 21:26:17 <peter1138> err 21:26:19 <peter1138> ever 21:26:59 <peter1138> approx 2 KB/s 21:27:04 <peter1138> 850 KB map 21:27:05 <peter1138> fun 21:28:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> 2 KB/s? that won't suffice for the data to keep the game going i'm afraid :p 21:28:43 <peter1138> it must do, they're pros 21:28:49 <peter1138> woo 21:28:50 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC6D89.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28:51 <peter1138> 750KB 21:30:05 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D2A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:30:09 <peter1138> yay, sync error 21:30:48 <mikk36> what, hylje ??? 21:31:39 <mikk36> is this better ? 21:31:42 <mikk36> (22:16:26) These users have been split from (#openttd): Darkvater, KritiK, nfc, KUDr_wrk, Jezral, qb, Rexxie, BFM, ln-, fusey, Rubidium, orudge, Frostregen, Szandor, Progman, blathijs, luckz, Purno, dfox, Tefad, MeusH, Tess, Empero, helb, XeryusTC, jotham, gass, Zavior, kdr, Born_Acorn, DJ_Mirage, hylje, Wolf01, michi_cc, Rens2Sea, A1win, Coiote_TTD, KUDr, Prof_Frink, imaginner, MiHaMiX - check netsplits window for details! 21:31:43 <mikk36> :P 21:31:46 <peter1138> cool, it's just locked up, heh 21:32:12 * peter1138 loads it locally 21:32:13 <XeryusTC> i havent split 21:32:20 <mikk36> u did :P 21:32:27 <mikk36> from my point of view 21:32:32 <mikk36> and i did for u 21:33:04 <helb> I can't see any split from here. :P 21:33:24 <peter1138> 22 vehicles in total 21:33:28 <XeryusTC> i rebooted my pc 21:33:31 <peter1138> maybe my pc can't take the load? who knows 21:35:14 *** Hadez [~chatzilla@151.244.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0/0000000000]] 21:35:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> you rebooted, and THEN you were split 21:36:29 <Ailure> mrr 21:36:35 <Ailure> people server advertise? 21:36:36 <Ailure> lame 21:36:45 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F03D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:37:02 <peter1138> servers you can't play on, hee 21:37:06 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E321.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:37:11 <Ailure> well 21:37:14 <Ailure> I don't mind if people say 21:37:22 <Ailure> or like 21:37:33 <Ailure> say that they have a current game going and want people to join 21:37:42 <Ailure> but I don't like blatant advertising 21:38:15 <peter1138> i have a game going 21:38:31 <Ailure> :o 21:38:32 <Ailure> online? 21:38:33 <Ailure> lol 21:38:35 <peter1138> for debugging porpoises 21:38:38 <Sacro> peter1138: orly? 21:38:39 <Ailure> I have a game going too 21:38:44 <Ailure> but it's single player 21:38:45 <Ailure> and hardly started 21:38:55 <Ailure> I built a small coal line 21:38:56 <Ailure> xD 21:39:01 <Ailure> and it's been paused for over 24 hours now 21:39:06 <peter1138> 2005 :) 21:39:16 <Ailure> the year is 1920 21:39:21 <Ailure> I always start on 1920 now 21:39:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have a game running since october 21:39:43 *** joaz is now known as Joaz|searching_for_fan 21:39:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> and i am still in 1920 21:39:59 <Sacro> daylength? 21:40:07 <Ailure> heh 21:40:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> 32, and i pause a lot :p 21:40:15 <Ailure> I pause alot too 21:40:27 <Ailure> sometimes I want to use my money effectivly as possible 21:40:41 <peter1138> bah 21:40:43 <Ailure> shame daylength isn't in trunk and no equilant of it 21:40:47 <peter1138> i've only got 80 million now 21:40:50 <Sacro> Ailure: yeah 21:41:04 <Ailure> becuse well 21:41:08 <peter1138> i blew 200 million on 4 tunnels 21:41:10 <Ailure> Daylenght would be really useful for multiplayer games 21:41:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> i seriously doubt that daylength is ready for trunk 21:41:15 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D2A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:41:19 <Ailure> well 21:41:22 <Ailure> i never looked at it's code 21:41:23 <Ailure> to be honest 21:41:26 <Ailure> so it might be a nightmare 21:41:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> i don't mean code wise 21:41:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> i mean what the feature should do, and what the feature should not do 21:42:07 <glx> peter1138: only 82 miilion ? :D 21:42:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> (influence to gameplay, produced goods, transport profits) 21:42:24 <Ailure> hmm 21:43:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> aside from that, savegame interval, yearly statistics etc 21:43:11 <Ailure> well that's one thing I thought didn't work too well 21:43:17 <Ailure> with the daylength patch 21:43:25 <Ailure> there was a option where daylength affects economy 21:43:31 <Ailure> but it seemed like it was not working too well 21:43:46 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:43:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> i remember it was totaly broken without that switch 21:44:08 <Ailure> ah 21:44:09 <Ailure> but well 21:44:16 <Ailure> one year with normal daylength 21:44:24 <Ailure> should give as much as one year with 32 daylength switch on 21:44:44 <Ailure> Probably impossible to do exactly the same 21:44:54 <Ailure> of course 21:44:57 *** Joaz|searching_for_fan is now known as Joaz 21:45:03 <Ailure> but it shouldn't differ too much 21:45:41 <Ailure> Sure it would slow down gameplay 21:45:55 <Ailure> but I think it would be fun if you actually had to let the game to play on it's own for a few hours 21:45:59 <Ailure> especially when it's multiplayer 21:46:12 <peter1138> glx: yeah, i spent loads 21:46:12 <Ailure> as of now, with normal daylength 21:46:21 <Ailure> if you have to sleep during a multiplayer game 21:46:25 <Ailure> and it's not a coop style of game 21:46:29 <Ailure> and it's not paused 21:46:33 <Ailure> your company tend to get behind alot 21:46:45 <jotham_> my friend and i play multiplayer for days at a time 21:46:48 <jotham_> before making a new map 21:46:53 <jotham_> we sleep, go to work, go drinking, etc 21:46:57 <jotham_> with it running 21:47:12 <jotham_> it sucks to come back and find all your trains are jammed up 21:49:24 <Ailure> daylength is probably one of the patches 21:49:30 <Ailure> I should take a closer look on codewise 21:53:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Error: File ``newgrf/combroadw.grf'' lost in cache." <- what exactly is this supposed to mean? 21:53:45 <jotham_> eek client in the programming domain 21:53:48 <jotham_> and she has no chin apparently 21:53:50 * jotham_ hyperventilates 21:54:34 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D912.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:54:37 <Sacro> Ailure: there isnt much code 21:54:42 <Sacro> my original version was about 3 lines 21:55:00 <Ailure> ah 21:55:02 <Ailure> hehe 21:55:17 <Ailure> still I like it somehow for multiplayer games 21:55:34 <Ailure> a game literally takes a month to go over 100 years ingame 21:55:42 <Ailure> with 32x 21:57:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... happens only with files in [newgrf-static] 22:00:30 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E321.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:02:33 *** Joaz [~joaz@dslb-084-060-211-003.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:04:32 *** Szandor [~2@host86-136-2-197.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:11:03 *** Szandor [~2@host86-136-2-197.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:17:48 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0DC37.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:19:33 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:23:38 <Coiote_TTD> man 22:23:41 <Coiote_TTD> that combo signs 22:23:47 <Coiote_TTD> are really hard to use correctly 22:24:15 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D912.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:24:39 <Brianetta> eh? 22:24:42 <Brianetta> and you're a pro? 22:24:54 <Coiote_TTD> uhehahe 22:24:57 <Coiote_TTD> i was jokking 22:25:01 <Brianetta> Too right. 22:25:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> real pros use PBS :) 22:25:14 <Coiote_TTD> =]] 22:25:43 <Brianetta> Eddi: Let them discover that gem in their own time... 22:25:57 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ac4.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:25:57 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 22:26:02 <Sacro> oh noes 22:26:08 <Coiote_TTD> Brianetta i know u did not believe that 22:26:14 <Sacro> real pros use 2 way signals 22:26:20 <Sacro> and nothng else 22:26:28 <Brianetta> Sacro: That's way hardcore 22:26:34 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 22:26:34 <Bjarni> !logs 22:26:35 <Brianetta> That's going back to the ROOTS 22:26:38 <Sacro> Brianetta: indeed, and old school 22:26:48 <Coiote_TTD> i was used to use only this too Sacro, but now im trying to figure how to use Combos 22:26:57 <Coiote_TTD> scia but im think thats useless 22:26:57 <Brianetta> Makes one-ways seem almost like cheating 22:27:05 <Sacro> Brianetta: yep 22:27:47 <Brianetta> ): 22:27:50 <Brianetta> thedailtwtf is down 22:28:10 <Bjarni> ok, then I will make some wtf up for you 22:28:19 *** Coiote_TTD [~brunbru@BHE200139137161.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:28:48 <Bjarni> damn, that's actually hard to do on purpose 22:29:00 *** BraZiL_PlaYeR [~brunbru@BHE200139137161.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #openttd 22:29:02 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> hi 22:29:07 <Sacro> Bjarni: nah, we just ask Darkvater about your commits 22:29:12 <Sacro> he points them out 22:29:32 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> lol i didnt know TTD has a online version 22:30:03 <Brianetta> BraZiL_PlaYeR: Now you do (: 22:30:11 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> Brianetta yeah...and its very nice! 22:31:21 <Bjarni> Sacro: yeah... even when there are none :s 22:31:48 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> a question, what kind of stations u guys like? that ro-ro ones? 22:31:56 <Sacro> depends on the situation 22:32:05 <Bjarni> that depends on what I want to do with it 22:32:20 <Bjarni> ro-ro is a poor solution for a line with only one train 22:32:26 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> no no 22:32:31 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> for line for 5,6 train 22:32:49 <Sacro> depends on if its a primary or secondary station 22:32:51 <Bjarni> also sometimes ro-ro stations are just too big and we need to figure out something smaller 22:33:05 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> now, i got one RO-ro 22:33:10 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> because i have 2 coal mines 22:33:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> i like 2 way stations, but they are really unplayable 22:33:13 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> and 1 power station 22:33:21 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> and im using ony way lines 22:33:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> so i have reverted to 2 way roros 22:33:26 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> like....one to go, one to get out 22:33:34 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> so i thought roro was the best solution 22:33:36 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> and the faster 22:34:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> or a flavour where trains can only enter each 2nd platform from their direction, but leave in both ways 22:34:37 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> im testing some things 22:34:44 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> i loveeeee that crazy lines 22:34:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> but that is only good for at least 4 platforms 22:34:50 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> with trains in all directions 22:34:51 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> lol 22:35:54 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0E74F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:38:54 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.140.44.235] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:39:27 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 22:42:20 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0DC37.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:44:04 *** fusee [fusion@cpe-76-174-15-199.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:44:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Johannes%20Transporte,%2025.%20Nov%201920.png <- a typical station of mine 22:47:45 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust184.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:50:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... the forest (industry) does not fit in with the trees 22:50:52 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:51:33 *** fusey [fusion@cpe-76-174-15-199.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:51:33 *** fusee is now known as fusey 22:51:47 *** Szandor [~2@host86-136-2-197.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:52:27 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@p549F037B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: YOU! 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My mistake - there are 14 23:16:54 <Brianetta> Some are a little hidden (: 23:17:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> i'm not sure, why there are that many 23:17:26 <Brianetta> You're about to hit the statues-and-parks stage 23:17:48 <Brianetta> and your station might stop accepting goods 23:17:55 <Brianetta> but then the town will explode 23:18:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have a city with 24 theaters 23:18:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> if i found all ;) 23:18:57 <Brianetta> I just found a 15th in Ilsenhaven ont he shot 23:19:08 <Brianetta> Perhaps you should crop that town, and make a forum game 23:19:15 <Brianetta> "Count the theatres" 23:19:49 <Brianetta> 16 now 23:19:58 <Brianetta> One of them, you can't see the front at all 23:20:08 <Brianetta> but the side is visible, and quite distinctive 23:20:56 *** Netsplit helium.oftc.net <-> osmosis.oftc.net quits: BFM, Rexxie, @Rubidium, Tefad, @orudge, Prof_Frink, KUDr_wrk, KUDr, Born_Acorn, kdr, (+15 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 23:21:25 <glx> I can't find more than 16 :) 23:21:40 <Nigel_> i see 200 :P 23:21:50 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0E74F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, it's a game noone can win, because at least one is under construction ;) 23:22:11 <Brianetta> Eddi: It's not an integer then (: 23:22:38 <glx> looks like a very hard split 23:24:19 *** Netsplit over, joins: PandaMojo, @Bjarni, gass, Prof_Frink, BFM, jotham, kdr, A1win, KUDr, Born_Acorn (+15 more) 23:24:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> i don't think the station will stop accepting goods, because i "hacked" the acceptance radius 23:24:43 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> helium.oftc.net quits: HMage, fusey, Frostregen, Progman, KritiK, Empero, dfox, imaginner, blathijs, BraZiL_PlaYeR, (+1 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 23:24:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> to 2 * station length 23:25:02 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:25:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> so i cover basically the entire town 23:25:18 *** Netsplit over, joins: fusey, BraZiL_PlaYeR, Frostregen, HMage, Progman, imaginner, KritiK, Zavior, dfox, blathijs (+1 more) 23:26:12 <Brianetta> http://ppcis.org/Theatres.png 23:26:13 <Brianetta> http://ppcis.org/Theatres_revealed.png 23:28:29 <Nigel_> Brianetta, 16 or so that i can count 23:29:02 <Brianetta> Nigel_: Look at the second pic (: 23:29:18 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: they said a fall from a skyscraper will cure me... bbl] 23:29:19 <Nigel_> i know 23:29:24 <Nigel_> i just have 23:29:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> the under construction one is directly behind the station, btw ;) 23:30:16 <Bjarni> looks like that town likes to get live entertainment :) 23:31:07 <Nigel_> that or it's a mask for an upcoming coup :P 23:31:39 <Bjarni> :( 23:31:47 <Bjarni> now you start to think like me 23:32:06 <Bjarni> OpenTTD is actually a part of my evil plot to take over the world 23:32:22 <Nigel_> Eddi|zuHause2, you better watch out, a coup is about to happen! send gifts to the theaters so you get better than perfect LA rating :P 23:32:45 <Bjarni> the idea is that while people play, they don't care who rules... kind of like how Italy uses football 23:34:20 <Bjarni> maybe you can make a profit on this event. Sell tickets to people so they can get first hand experience with a coup 23:34:34 <Bjarni> you know, how to be captured and so on 23:34:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Johannes%20Transporte,%207.%20Dez%201920.png <- level 2 ;) 23:35:11 <Nigel_> name the city 'Fuji' :P 23:35:32 <Bjarni> why? 23:35:40 <Nigel_> read the news 23:35:43 <Nigel_> Fiji :P 23:35:50 <Bjarni> ahh 23:36:03 <Bjarni> one letter... BIG difference ;) 23:37:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> i always wonder how languages work that leave the vowels out of the written words 23:37:26 <Bjarni> I like what they did in Thailand. The government were corrupt and everybody knew it, but they refused to resign so the military took control and stated that there will be an election 23:38:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> (examples are arabic and egyptian) 23:38:28 <Bjarni> AFAIK the corrupt government got power though a previous coup 23:38:46 <Brianetta> Bjarni: Thailand is cool like that 23:40:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F4DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40:15 <Bjarni> well, if you leave out the vowels, then nobody cares if you are named Ibrahim or Abraham 23:40:30 <Bjarni> they really mix up names like that and new names are made that way 23:41:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, but in a lot of german words, it makes a big difference even if you mix up a and ä 23:41:30 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.140.44.235] has joined #openttd 23:41:53 <Bjarni> personally, I prefer a written language where you know how to say a word based on how it's written. We don't have that either, but that's because the languages changed since we started writing and nobody updated how to spell 23:42:25 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> some1 speak portuguese here? 23:42:38 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> i think nobody does 23:42:41 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> lol 23:42:41 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, but in a lot of german words, it makes a big difference even if you mix up a and ä <-- the point is: when you can't write the vowels, you figure out how to talk without being dependant on them 23:43:21 <Bjarni> BraZiL_PlaYeR: I don't and I don't need to, but I would prefer you to write in English, at least in this channel ;) 23:43:29 <Bjarni> "1" is not a word ;) 23:43:45 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> hahahahaha 23:43:51 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> i cant say some1? 23:43:57 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> u guys can understand that =/ 23:44:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> the problem is not "can", the problem is "want to" 23:44:21 <Bjarni> "u" is not a word either 23:44:27 <Bjarni> :P 23:44:37 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> omg... 23:44:41 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> ok ok, omg is not a word 23:44:42 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> =] 23:44:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> ok is not a word either ;) 23:45:05 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> omg 23:45:18 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> i will not speak anymore =] 23:45:36 <Bjarni> nobody asked you to speak 23:45:43 <Bjarni> and nobody asked you to stop either 23:46:18 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> Wow 23:46:26 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> whats your problem o_0 23:46:33 <BraZiL_PlaYeR> crazy one 23:46:35 *** BraZiL_PlaYeR [~brunbru@BHE200139137161.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has left #openttd [] 23:47:05 <Bjarni> lol 23:47:24 <Bjarni> I think he totally missed the point 23:48:09 <Sacro> !calc 10^-2 23:48:10 <_42_> Sacro: .0100000000; 23:48:15 <Sacro> err... 23:48:20 <Bjarni> well, we need to maintain a certain level of writing or we will end up with l33t or something 23:48:26 <Sacro> !calc 10^.5 23:48:28 <Bjarni> Sacro: I will pretend you didn't say that 23:48:28 <_42_> Sacro: Runtime warning (func=(main), adr=9): non-zero scale in exponent;1; 23:48:34 <Sacro> Bjarni: what? 23:48:42 <Bjarni> <Sacro> !calc 10^-2 23:48:51 <Sacro> Bjarni: i wanted the square root... 23:48:55 <Bjarni> that's kind of like !calc 3 + 5 23:49:02 <Sacro> 8 23:49:09 * Sacro uses fingers 23:49:12 <Bjarni> !calc sqrt(10) 23:49:12 <_42_> Bjarni: 3.1622776601; 23:49:24 <Bjarni> there you go 23:50:29 <Bjarni> you should have known this :P 23:51:01 <Sacro> lol 23:51:31 <Bjarni> you reminded me of this: http://www.bash.org/?1585 23:51:33 <izhirahider> sqrt(10) is the answer to all my OpenTTD problems 23:51:40 <Bjarni> see 23:51:50 <Bjarni> I can solve most problems really quickly 23:52:13 <jotham_> SQUAREWAVEHIFIVE 23:52:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> !calc 10^(1/2) 23:52:29 <_42_> Eddi|zuHause2: Runtime warning (func=(main), adr=10): non-zero scale in exponent;1; 23:52:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's not even an error 23:52:57 <Brianetta> OK 23:53:11 <Brianetta> I am more-or-less exactly sqrt(10) decades old. 23:53:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> "warnings are things you can safely ignore" :p 23:53:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's older than pi decades 23:53:58 <Bjarni> http://www.bash.org/?715093 <-- well, when you are short of words, you can try to do something else :D 23:54:18 <Brianetta> Eddi|zuHause2: That was back in October 23:54:57 <Brianetta> only in Windows (: 23:55:59 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0CDC7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:56:40 <Bjarni> the greatest part is that it's paint... the computer figured out that words could not describe her, so it opened paint... or something :D 23:57:20 <Bjarni> since computers can't figure stuff like that out on their own, I bet it was done by a hacker. It's windows safety after all 23:58:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> what makes you think he did not open paint in linux? :p 23:59:26 <Bjarni> simple... a hacker did it, so it was windows 23:59:42 <Bjarni> http://www.bash.org/?714706 <-- well, that's one way of putting it