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00:55:29 *** Sleepie [~Sleepie@p54B369CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: 3...2...1...quit] 01:17:17 *** UndernotBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.109] has joined #openttd 01:17:41 <UndernotBuilder> boekabart isn't here :( 01:20:26 <UndernotBuilder> I wanted to ask him if he can redesign the high-level rivers feature so it looks more like the ttdpatch ones (like canals but less artificial-ish) 01:21:13 <UndernotBuilder> also will be good shipstations like this http://www.tt-forums.net/files/scr447_216.png 01:22:05 <peter1138> ... 01:22:09 <peter1138> that's a canal and lock 01:23:30 <UndernotBuilder> but something like that can be used for shipstations... 01:27:11 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB5C24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:27:11 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5C24.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:28:00 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 01:31:26 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76FD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:53 *** Eddi|zuHause2 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#openttd 06:20:59 <Wolf01> hello 06:52:19 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387D857.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:06:07 *** Clinton [~chatzilla@ppp31-151.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:06:34 <Clinton> are there any scenarios based on the real world that have real world networks included also? 07:21:24 *** Clinton_ [~chatzilla@ppp31-151.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:21:57 <peterbrett> Clinton: No, because you can't have rail laid down in scenarios atm, IIRC 07:26:15 *** Clinton [~chatzilla@ppp31-151.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:26:27 *** Clinton_ is now known as Clinton 07:30:38 <hylje> are scenarios just savegames? 07:31:23 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:32:01 *** Clinton_ [~chatzilla@ppp31-151.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:32:01 *** Clinton [~chatzilla@ppp31-151.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:32:03 *** Clinton_ is now known as Clinton 07:34:44 *** Clinton_ [~chatzilla@ppp31-151.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:41:15 *** Clinton [~chatzilla@ppp31-151.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:49:09 *** Clinton_ [~chatzilla@ppp31-151.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:52:52 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4aeb.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:55:10 <peter1138> hylje: yes 07:55:39 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 07:59:04 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064157.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:11:52 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387D857.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 08:18:12 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60EC1.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 08:25:44 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D857.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:27:02 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 08:29:39 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 08:32:55 *** TinoM| 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r9873 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_house.cpp newgrf_house.h town_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: Add missing second callback parameter for houses 09:17:20 *** setrodox [setrodox@83-65-232-35.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Hapiness ;D] 09:27:40 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:40:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9874 /trunk/ (39 files in 7 dirs): -Feature: advanced vehicle lists a.k.a. group interface. Now you can make groups of vehicles and perform all kinds of tasks on that given group. Original code by nycom and graphics by skidd13. 09:42:24 *** [BDS]-Klaus [~Klaus@p54AB1DDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:42:30 <[BDS]-Klaus> hi all 09:42:31 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:42:45 <[BDS]-Klaus> what language must i spoken here? 09:43:11 <Thomas[NL]> English 09:43:17 <[BDS]-Klaus> where can i find the .config file for my debian server... to configure ott 09:43:33 <[BDS]-Klaus> i have set it up now 09:43:41 <[BDS]-Klaus> but i search for the config 09:43:43 <Rubidium> ~/.openttd/openttd.cfg (but only after you started the server once) 09:44:11 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:44:14 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 09:44:15 <[BDS]-Klaus> ok... 09:44:18 <[BDS]-Klaus> i have it 09:44:35 <[BDS]-Klaus> stupid... that i can make by my self 09:44:45 <[BDS]-Klaus> big thx 09:45:28 <[BDS]-Klaus> can i make a config in windows in game... and then copy to my server? 09:45:44 <[BDS]-Klaus> i think its easy 09:45:51 <[BDS]-Klaus> but its run with it? 09:46:13 <Rubidium> yes you can 09:47:02 <[BDS]-Klaus> k 09:53:20 <[BDS]-Klaus> ok... can any one say me what is this for a option? 09:53:21 <[BDS]-Klaus> restart_game_year = 0 09:53:37 <[BDS]-Klaus> and haw i can play with bots 09:53:40 <[BDS]-Klaus> ;-) 09:53:47 <[BDS]-Klaus> haw = how 09:57:41 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip193.cab57.mus.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 09:57:53 <Thomas[NL]> ai_in_multiplayer = true I think 09:58:55 *** jnmbk [~jnmbk@85.108.221.89] has joined #openttd 10:00:12 <Thomas[NL]> cool advanced vehicle lists :) 10:00:20 <jnmbk> Hi, I get this when trying to start a server with 0.5.2-RC1 Any ideas to fix that? dbg: [NET] Server could not start network: bind() failed 10:02:10 <Patrick> port's in use 10:02:37 <Patrick> or you're trying to run it <1024 on linux as a non-roo user 10:03:08 <jnmbk> oh, you're right :P 10:03:10 <jnmbk> 21 10:03:38 <jnmbk> I changed this value months ago and forgot 10:03:49 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064157.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:08:58 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:11:20 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:11:59 <[BDS]-Klaus> ok... first thx for all... 10:16:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DDEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:16:11 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064157.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:17:30 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 10:18:32 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:30:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9875 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r9828): Only set carriage capacity if the wagon has not been refitted. 10:31:05 <Sionide> anyone here from the UK? 10:31:10 <Sionide> (lots of people, i know!) 10:31:18 *** jnmbk [~jnmbk@85.108.221.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:31:29 <Bjarni> why would you need somebody from the UK? 10:31:47 <Bjarni> are you considering this a dating service or something? 10:32:02 <Sionide> in a manner of speaking, perhaps 10:32:07 <Bjarni> ... 10:32:26 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Thomas[NL]] 10:32:40 <Bjarni> if that should work, then we need more females 10:32:43 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:32:46 <Bjarni> 0 are too few for this to work :p 10:32:51 <Sionide> it's more of an "openttd date" 10:32:58 <Sionide> as if, girls play this game too.. 10:33:05 <Sionide> probably don't hang around in here though 10:33:06 <Sionide> -_- 10:33:11 <Bjarni> I know 10:33:27 <Sionide> anyway.. i'm going to host a multiplayer co-op game with the ultra realistic great britain scenario, to build a (close as possible) replica to the uk passenger network, who wants in? 10:33:32 <Bjarni> ohh, that reminds me of LadyHawk 10:33:53 <Sionide> t'must be difficult being female on the internet... so many geeks. 10:34:11 <Bjarni> she called her drawing of a car sexy and people in here started talking about the lack of women in it to call it sexy :D 10:34:32 <Sionide> :O 10:35:07 <Bjarni> the best part was then somebody showed up in the middle of everything and was asked if he thought it was sexy and without knowing what everybody else said, he said that it lacked a naked women to call it sexy 10:35:18 <Sionide> haha 10:35:22 <Sionide> typical irc type humour then 10:35:34 <Bjarni> I guess so 10:35:44 <Patrick> I'm from the UK but I have a penis so I probably don't count 10:35:53 <Sionide> umm 10:36:44 <Patrick> joknig aside, why do you ask? 10:37:02 <Patrick> oh, there it is, 5 lines up 10:37:15 <Patrick> sorry, I don't know that much abouyt the UK rail network 10:37:24 <Bjarni> he wants to make an OTTD date with you and once you are high on the game, you never know what happens :p 10:37:48 <Sionide> heheh 10:37:59 <Sionide> Patrick, neither do i really... i was just gonna look at train timetables 10:38:11 <Sionide> to get the a->b->c layout type thing 10:38:15 <Bjarni> heh 10:38:24 <Bjarni> so you look at when NOT to make the trains drive? 10:39:10 <Sionide> heh yeah 10:39:34 <Bjarni> too bad you said UK rail network 10:39:52 * Bjarni has a complete map of the government owned rail network in Denmark 10:40:11 <Bjarni> complete with signals, sidings, road crossings and stuff 10:40:23 <Sionide> hmm wonder where i could lay my hands on such a thing for the uk one 10:40:55 <Bjarni> check the homepage of the rail owners 10:41:06 <Bjarni> not the railroad, but the actual owners of the rails 10:41:17 <Sionide> whee 10:41:18 <Bjarni> s/railroad/train owner 10:41:18 <Sionide> http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/tocs_maps/ 10:41:54 <Bjarni> nice 10:42:06 <Bjarni> but less detailed than mine 10:42:13 <Sionide> can't too the london underground though, yet :( 10:42:36 <Sionide> although 10:42:43 <Sionide> there are some cool looking newgrfs out there 10:42:53 <Sionide> for london underground trains i mean 10:43:07 <peter1138> 11:32 <@Bjarni> she called her drawing of a car sexy and people in here started talking about the lack of women in it to call it sexy :D 10:43:19 <peter1138> Bjarni: no, you did, and you probably drove her away :p 10:43:30 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387D141.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:43:30 <Bjarni> like I was the only one :p 10:44:04 <Bjarni> hmm, you guys lack rails north of Leeds 10:47:22 <Bjarni> Sionide: I just had an idea. Use google earth to get a more detailed map of the rails 10:47:48 <Sionide> biryani, do you think i should make the pdfs reflect the map and take out the towns and stations which don't appear on the ottd scenario, or edit the scenario and add them in? 10:48:11 <Sionide> ah nice idea.. 10:48:14 * Sionide gets google earth 10:48:25 <Sionide> t'was a little buggy last i tried it, but we'll have another go 10:48:37 <Sionide> actually shit, gotta run to the post office real quick, bbs 10:50:02 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D857.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:54:52 <Patrick> either it's a 12am pickup or he lives in the middle of nowhere 10:57:32 <Patrick> the fundamental problem with ottd so far is that if you have 10 towns in a row,k and you build a linear track with 10 stations and send one train out 10:57:44 <Patrick> you make more profit having the train only stop at the end 2 towns 10:58:01 <Patrick> passenger destinations *might* fix this, but there must be a simpler approximation 10:58:16 <Patrick> like, having the passenger delivery curve fall off faster 10:58:30 <Patrick> (perhaps) 10:59:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DDEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04:10 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:04:10 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4aeb.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:07:47 *** muszek [~muszek@awc202.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 11:10:30 <Sionide> i live round the corner from the post office, lol 11:10:34 <Sionide> what time zone are you in?! 11:10:40 <Patrick> yours :P 11:10:47 <Patrick> 12am was10 minuts ago 11:11:04 <Patrick> the only reason to argh run to the post office is if there's an uplift in 10 minutes :) 11:11:31 <Sionide> the one here closes at 12:30 for some stupid reason 11:13:54 <peter1138> wait til the beeching^W^H postoffice axe 11:16:03 *** yeti_ [~yeti@p5493E989.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:16:08 <yeti_> hi :) 11:16:32 <yeti_> what is this group interface about? what kind of thing can i do with the groups? 11:17:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9876 /trunk/src/ (newgrf.cpp town_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: [NewHouses] Add support for callback 2E (cargo production) 11:18:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9877 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Revert (r9876): one file too many... 11:19:55 <Sionide> another question is 11:20:10 <Sionide> peter1138, do you reckon i should make seperate companies for the different rail operators in the UK? 11:20:24 <peter1138> up to you 11:20:35 <Sionide> for my (almost accurate) UK rail network, using the very good great britain map 11:20:37 <peter1138> set it in the 80s 11:20:41 <peter1138> then it's just BR :p 11:20:45 <Sionide> lol 11:21:29 <Sionide> london could get tricky 11:21:37 <Sionide> what version of ottd should i use 11:21:40 <Sionide> latest stable i guess? 11:24:16 *** Sleepie [~Sleepie@p54b37365.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:28:20 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5529.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:28:27 <Sionide> bleh :( 11:34:53 <peter1138> nightly ;D 11:36:14 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:16 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4aeb.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:39:13 <Sionide> hrm 11:39:15 <Sionide> why? 11:39:27 <Sionide> it might break, this is a biggy project 11:39:31 <Sionide> anyway wtf 11:39:49 <Sionide> how come when i compile from source, it doesn't all go into a /bin/ directory, but it does when i compile from svn source? 11:39:55 <Sionide> is there a switch for that or some such? 11:40:07 <yeti_> Sionide: see ./configure --help 11:40:20 <peter1138> probably different versions 11:42:11 <Sionide> yeti_, err.. what is it, static build [off] ? 11:42:25 <yeti_> uhhh... you are on linux, right? 11:42:26 <Sionide> orudge, [no] rather.. 11:42:26 <Sionide> yeah 11:42:30 <Sionide> yeti_, * oops 11:42:39 <Sionide> stupid autocomplete, heh 11:43:01 <yeti_> huh? anyways, on linux it's --prefix-dir and the like 11:43:23 <yeti_> ah wait 11:43:51 <yeti_> i think i know what you mean... --prefix-dir is only useful when you actually do "make install" 11:44:01 <Sionide> oh 11:44:05 <yeti_> the other thing you're talking about is most likely Makefile-specific 11:44:15 <yeti_> so you would have to edit the makefile i think 11:44:21 <Sionide> anyway, i wouldn't have this problem if official releases had linux binaries just like the nightlies do.. 11:44:40 <yeti_> they do! 11:44:46 <Sionide> huh 11:44:49 <yeti_> well at least 0.5.1 did 11:44:58 <Sionide> i thought they should have, but i must be being blind 11:44:58 <yeti_> unsure whether there is already a 0.5.2-rc1 build 11:45:34 <yeti_> yeah. "downloads" -> "debian/ubuntu i386" 11:45:37 <Sionide> .deb 11:45:40 <Sionide> i don't want a .deb 11:45:47 <yeti_> you can convert deb to tgz or rpm 11:45:56 <Sionide> oh? 11:46:06 <yeti_> what do you want then ;) ? use the program "deb2tgz" 11:46:14 <Sionide> oookay 11:46:19 * Sionide didn't know of this program before 11:46:31 <yeti_> i'm unsure whether that's really the correct name 11:46:39 <yeti_> if not, try "alien" 11:46:51 <Sionide> doesn't alien to rpm->deb 11:47:06 <Sionide> No manual entry for alien 11:47:07 <Sionide> helpful! 11:47:40 <yeti_> alien -h 11:47:49 <yeti_> alien -t 11:47:58 <yeti_> i' pretty sure it can handle debs 11:48:24 <yeti_> by the way, i have a manpage for alien, strange that you don't 11:48:36 <Sionide> didn't have it installed 11:48:38 * Sionide hides 11:48:40 <Sionide> now installing 11:48:57 <yeti_> yeah, that might have been the problem ;) 11:48:59 <Sionide> alien -t for tar gz output? 11:49:04 <yeti_> yeah 11:49:31 <yeti_> alien -t ottd.deb should work 11:50:46 *** geoffk [~geoffk@host81-158-240-31.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:50:57 <Sionide> hrm 11:50:59 <Sionide> didn't work 11:51:01 <Sionide> well it kinda did 11:51:33 <Sionide> but it put everything in /usr/share/games/ and all over the place 11:51:34 <Sionide> sigh 11:53:10 <Sionide> i would like /home/games/openttd/0.5.2-RC1/ 11:54:29 <yeti_> yeah, of course it did 11:54:38 <yeti_> sorry, i thought you'd know that 11:55:06 <Sionide> for example 11:55:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DDEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:55:22 <yeti_> well, if you want it over there, then compile it from svn source, use ./configure --prefix-dir=/home/games/ --personal-dir=whateveryouwant 11:55:38 <yeti_> not sure about that personal-dir thing, look it up in ./configure -help 11:55:39 <Sionide> i don't want svn though -_- 11:55:54 <yeti_> then use 0.5.2-rc1 release source 11:55:58 <Sionide> siiigghhhhh 11:56:00 <yeti_> or 0.5.1 11:56:08 <Sionide> this is so long winded 11:56:18 <yeti_> sorry, you didn't tell me you wanted it in /home :( 11:56:50 <Sionide> d'oh 12:00:03 <Sionide> i just need all openttd stuff in one place, heh 12:00:07 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5529.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 12:03:21 <peter1138> ow 12:03:37 <peter1138> 15 minutes weeding and i'm all knackered 12:07:56 <yeti_> heh, i read "wedding" - now that sounded strange 12:08:12 <Sleepie> reminds me that I have to do gardenwork too :) 12:08:51 <Sleepie> a 15 min wedding uhm that'd be fast ;) 12:11:27 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:11:51 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c210-49-162-211.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:12:16 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c210-49-162-211.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:12:51 <Bjarni> <Sleepie> a 15 min wedding uhm that'd be fast ;) <-- I once saw a guy on TV, who visited Las Vegas. He found a drive through wedding thingie and saw two people getting married in less than 15 minutes. They didn't even leave the car o_O 12:13:56 <Sleepie> and they're still married? :) 12:14:11 <Bjarni> I have no idea 12:14:26 <Bjarni> but I think the odds are against it 12:14:29 <Sleepie> I was quite sure you'd say that ;) 12:14:54 <Bjarni> but it could be that it was some sort of shotgun wedding 12:15:00 <Bjarni> and then they could still be married 12:15:12 <Bjarni> or widowed 12:15:20 <Sleepie> of course we'll never know though 12:15:49 <Sleepie> well my own was a lot longer than 15 minutes :) 12:16:07 <Bjarni> I just downloaded google video player. First impression: "connection error (4 attempts)" 12:16:17 <Sleepie> lol 12:16:48 <Bjarni> that went well :p 12:17:41 <Sleepie> perhaps a config problem? 12:18:02 <Bjarni> err, now the video is gone from the browser as well 12:18:11 <Bjarni> I just watched it and then clicked "download" 12:19:07 <Patrick> caraaaazzzzy 12:19:40 <Sleepie> hmm no idea I didn't even know there exist a 'google video player' 12:20:04 <Patrick> sweet, there's an american dad movie in the works 12:20:58 <Patrick> google video is also broken 12:21:02 * Bjarni decides to try another video 12:21:34 <Patrick> no, it's all down 12:21:50 <Bjarni> yeah, it appears so 12:21:56 <Bjarni> which means... 12:22:08 <Bjarni> the file in question will be online again... eventually 12:22:23 <Bjarni> unless they crashed their HD and didn't back it up 12:22:27 <Patrick> youtube it :) 12:22:33 <Bjarni> somehow I don't think they will do that 12:22:48 <Bjarni> I don't think it's on youtube 12:23:14 <Thomas[NL]> looks like google video works again here 12:24:04 <Bjarni> lol 12:24:08 <Bjarni> I just found a ghost video 12:24:30 <Bjarni> and half the comments states that it's real and the other half how they faked it :D 12:25:05 <Bjarni> like 12:25:07 <Bjarni> "lol when the chair is gone its just a fishline i think >.>" 12:25:28 <Bjarni> and "people who claim this is fake are just not open minded, at all" 12:25:30 <Bjarni> :D 12:25:41 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:26:09 <Patrick> if the moon is in space how come there is gravity, people r sheep 12:26:33 <Patrick> http://xkcd.com/c202.html 12:28:34 <Bjarni> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2469928627183918026 <-- awesome 12:28:48 <Bjarni> it's a cat using a computer 12:29:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9878 /trunk/src/ (autoreplace_cmd.cpp vehicle.cpp): -Fix (9874): some vehicle count's were not properly updated on delete or autoreplace of vehicles. 12:29:54 <peter1138> best use for a mac 12:30:26 <Bjarni> not really 12:30:35 <Bjarni> good thing this is not my monitor :p 12:30:36 <Patrick> it's pretty obvious that the cameraman is operatig the mouse 12:31:23 <Bjarni> actually it looks more like a wireless keyboard 12:31:56 <Bjarni> you see, you can do all that stuff from the keyboard, but not really from the mouse 12:32:15 <Bjarni> well, not that fast 12:32:16 <Bjarni> hmm 12:32:27 <Bjarni> actually apple remote can do it as well... I think 12:33:12 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pd9eb4aeb.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:33:15 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4aeb.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:33:46 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:35:17 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:41:38 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:41:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:47:01 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9879 /trunk/src/players.cpp: -Fix (r9874): global autoreplace was little broken ;) 12:49:19 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 12:56:04 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 13:04:41 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnGD1jLB-Gw <-- don't do this at home O-O 13:05:42 <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: that was done quite close to mine 13:07:36 <peter1138> clarkson :D 13:08:36 <Sacro|Laptop> its awesomely damaged 13:09:52 <Sionide> hm 13:12:13 *** G0D_aw [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:13:02 *** juancuka [juancuca@200-55-79-122.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #openttd 13:13:59 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-43-171.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 13:14:28 <valhallasw> Bjarni: oi, that is bad 13:17:04 *** re06011988 [~r.erwan@ADijon-152-1-17-208.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 13:17:47 <Sionide> actually, the route markers patch would be nice for this project 13:17:54 <Sionide> is that in trunk just yet? 13:24:13 *** juancuka [juancuca@200-55-79-122.dsl.prima.net.ar] has left #openttd [] 13:24:34 <Sacro|Laptop> no 13:25:12 <Sionide> if i compiled it in, everyone who played would have to do the same wouldn't they? :s 13:28:23 <Sionide> http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/system/galleries/download/print_maps/Nat_Rail_Passenger_Operators.pdf 13:28:29 <Sionide> plus United Kingdom Scenario 13:28:34 <Sionide> woOot 13:28:56 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: reboot-tijd] 13:30:04 <elmex> qls 13:37:04 <Sionide> so what happens in, not long, when it's r9999 ? 13:37:19 <Sionide> r10000? 13:39:27 <Sionide> a dedicated server doesn't need the sample.cat etc files, right? 13:41:51 <elmex> mine needed it 13:42:00 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:42:13 <elmex> the server needs the game info i guess and the trains etc. 13:42:15 <glx> Sionide: dedicated server needs all ttd files 13:42:16 *** re06011988 [~r.erwan@ADijon-152-1-17-208.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #openttd [] 13:42:34 <Sionide> hrm, okay 13:42:56 <Sionide> what's the default port? i used to know it, but forgotten these days.. 13:43:07 <glx> !openttd port 13:43:08 <_42_> glx: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advsertise) communication (outbound) 13:43:12 <Sionide> ah ha 13:43:13 <Sionide> :) 13:43:26 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SRWugR6oFE&mode=related&search= <--- wow. Some guy is recording a video of a train passing by when a car derails, tips over and nearly hits him 13:45:13 * Sionide scp's stuff over 13:45:16 <Sionide> tra la la 13:51:19 <Sionide> Makefile:201: *** You need to have SDL installed in order to run OpenTTD on UNIX. Use DEDICATED if you want to compile a CLI based server. Stop. 13:51:23 <Sionide> how does that work? 13:51:32 <Sionide> make DEDICATED <-- doesn't 13:51:40 <glx> make DEDICATED:=1 13:51:53 <Sionide> sweet:) 13:51:59 <Sionide> can that be added to that error message? 13:52:12 <glx> why? 13:52:34 <Sionide> because i wouldn't have to ask that question, if it said use DEDICATED:=1 13:52:56 <glx> this is only in 0.5 branch 13:53:03 <glx> trunk as a different system now 13:53:10 <Sionide> ohh 13:54:32 <Sionide> yay! 13:54:33 <Sionide> *** Sionide has joined the game 13:54:33 <Sionide> *** Game paused (incoming client) 13:55:09 <Sionide> :) 13:56:37 <elmex> hmm 13:56:59 <elmex> some servers use some interesting patches to notify players of rules and such 13:59:25 <Sionide> is there an motd type thing? 13:59:37 *** [BDS]-Klaus [~Klaus@p54AB1DDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:00:01 <Sionide> elmex, this is gonna be a private server me thinks 14:00:06 <Sionide> special co-op project 14:00:15 <elmex> i've seen in the scripts/ directory 14:00:18 <peter1138> scripts/on_server_connect.scr 14:00:33 <elmex> peter1138: isnt it on_client ? 14:00:33 <peter1138> put 'say "whatever you want"' in it 14:00:38 <peter1138> no 14:00:56 <elmex> with 0.5.1 it seems to be, at least as far as readme.txt says 14:01:25 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pd9eb4aeb.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:01:35 <peter1138> readme.txt doesn't reference scripts 14:01:46 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:02:01 <Wolf01> yeah, the group interface finally in trunk :O 14:02:14 <peter1138> yeah! 14:02:17 <peter1138> what's the point of it? 14:02:59 <Wolf01> i was used to rename trains to find them easily 14:03:21 <elmex> wanna see!!! (svn upping) 14:03:22 <Wolf01> something like Line-A Train-1 etc 14:03:42 <Sionide> hum 14:03:43 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:03:44 <Sionide> problemo 14:03:44 <Sionide> load -g "scenario/UK.scn" 14:03:45 <Sionide> - Load a game by name or index. Usage: 'load <file | number>' 14:04:01 <Sionide> :( 14:04:17 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:04:18 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:06:00 <Sionide> how do i load this scenario into the dedicated server? :s 14:06:21 <Wolf01> rename it .sav 14:07:06 <Sacro|Laptop> no you dont :o 14:07:17 <Sacro|Laptop> -g /path/to/scenario.scn 14:07:32 <Sionide> Sacro|Laptop, that didn't work.. 14:07:42 <Sionide> it's there now 14:07:55 <Sionide> 0) .. (Parent directory) 14:07:55 <Sionide> 1) heightmap/ (Directory) 14:07:55 <Sionide> 2) UK 14:07:55 <Sionide> load 2 14:08:34 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b800e2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:08:50 <Sionide> ah crap 14:08:57 <Sionide> it's gotten rid of the newGRF i had 14:09:08 <peter1138> -g is only used from the command line, heh 14:09:12 <peter1138> not the console 14:09:19 <Wolf01> or, start the server in gui mode with that scenario, save the game and load it in dedicated 14:09:46 <Sionide> Wolf01, will that work with newgrfs as well? i copied over the openttd.cfg from laptop to server 14:09:49 <Sionide> peter1138, that's not clear 14:10:16 <Sionide> peter1138, actually it kinda is.. so it would be ./openttd -D -g "blah.scn" 14:10:20 <Wolf01> you should have the same grf in both the computers 14:10:26 <Sionide> Wolf01, i do 14:10:36 <Wolf01> ok, it should work then 14:10:54 <peter1138> you need the same files, but the config is irrelevant 14:11:47 <peter1138> hmm 14:11:54 <peter1138> 0 tonnes of grain (0% transported) 14:11:56 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82B77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:11:58 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:11:59 <peter1138> i guess that one won't be going up... 14:12:16 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c210-49-162-211.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:12:26 <yeti_> that's not a new one, had that with oil yesterday already 14:12:52 <Sionide> pb_ukrs.grf 14:14:12 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:14:14 <Sionide> i'll try copying the save game over 14:14:18 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:14:29 <Wolf01> i think i'll put on hold the adjacent station and the autoroad patches, and i'll try to rewrite the show catchement areas patch 14:15:34 <peter1138> or figure out a way to make the catchment areas less lame 14:16:04 <Wolf01> i meant the catchement areas for existing stations 14:16:40 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 14:16:50 <Sionide> woohooo it worked, cheers Wolf01 14:17:19 <peter1138> Wolf01: so did it 14:17:21 <peter1138> er 14:17:21 <peter1138> i 14:18:38 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-189-57.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:20:53 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has joined #openttd 14:22:26 <elmex> teh verhicle groups are nice 14:22:53 <Sionide> woooo 14:23:08 <Sionide> anyone recommend any other good grfs, apart from uk renewel set? 14:23:36 *** eJoJ^zZz [~Aim@89.10.21.193] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:24:29 <peter1138> ukrs addons ;) 14:24:51 <Sionide> hrm 14:24:57 <Sionide> it's a passenger game though 14:25:08 <peter1138> so? 14:25:12 <Sionide> doesn't the addons add all the new industry types on? 14:25:22 <peter1138> damn, my stupidly long and slow livestock service still makes money :/ 14:25:34 <peter1138> no, that's ukrsi 14:25:37 <Sionide> oh, no that's different 14:25:37 <Sionide> hmm 14:25:39 <Sionide> coool 14:25:40 *** [Done]Luukland [~user@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:26:03 <[Done]Luukland> Heya, can someone help me? I would like to know how to use .diff and .patch files 14:26:57 <glx> use patch to patch the source then compile 14:27:10 <[Done]Luukland> 0_o 14:27:13 * [Done]Luukland is noob 14:27:14 <TrueBrain> http://wiki.openttd.org/ 14:27:14 <TrueBrain> ;) 14:27:34 <peter1138> i'm using ttrs3, lv4, av8, and a few station grf 14:27:49 <glx> ttrs3 needs nightlies 14:28:01 <glx> else you only change the roads 14:28:01 *** lolman [lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:28:07 <[Done]Luukland> hmmm.. 14:28:14 <Sionide> hm yeah the stations with the domed roofs look quite cool 14:29:53 <[Done]Luukland> glx can you give me a step to step guide to use a .diff file? 14:30:26 <glx> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=21678 14:30:55 <[Done]Luukland> THX :) 14:31:04 <glx> if you are a windows user you can try http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=31823 14:31:13 <[Done]Luukland> ok 14:31:46 <[Done]Luukland> I will try it 14:31:49 <[Done]Luukland> thx anyway 14:35:13 *** bencvt [~bencvt@va-71-53-204-176.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #openttd 14:35:15 <[Done]Luukland> (euhh, what should i write in the pop up that comes up?) 14:36:09 <[Done]Luukland> or do i have to download the source first? 14:37:47 <[Done]Luukland> glx? 14:38:26 <glx> I didn't write this tool nor used it, but I think everything is explained in the thread 14:40:38 <Sionide> does a dedicated server pause the game when there are no clients connected? 14:41:06 <elmex> hm, is there only the groups interface in trunk and not the group-orders? 14:41:21 <glx> Sionide: there's a setting for that in openttd.cfg 14:41:29 <Sionide> ah 14:41:51 <Wolf01> peter1138, do you have time to work with me at the catchement areas? 14:43:29 <Sionide> glx, any idea what it's called? 14:43:34 <Sionide> min_players = 0 14:43:42 <Sionide> set that to 1? 14:44:15 <glx> yes 14:45:54 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:46:29 <[Done]Luukland> glx the topic is not clear about how i should use it, is there someone here that has more information for me? 14:47:31 <[Done]Luukland> it cant even update the source :S 14:49:53 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 14:56:17 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:56:23 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:57:13 *** lolman [lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59:31 <[Done]Luukland> and my last question: Is there a program where you can change vehicle speeds? 14:59:36 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 15:01:59 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01:59 <Patrick> no, you would need to change the source and recompile for that 15:02:03 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:02:09 <Patrick> I think 15:02:15 <Patrick> or edit the grf - you know what ,I don't know 15:02:16 <Wolf01> grf do it too 15:03:35 <[Done]Luukland> :( 15:08:56 <[Done]Luukland> is there are program where you can change the vehiclespeeds in the .grf? 15:15:23 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-140-205-226.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 15:20:27 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:20:27 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:22:02 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 15:22:31 *** [Done]Luukland [~user@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: iedereen die uni 13 speelt is een noodle] 15:23:10 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:23:26 *** Ammller is now known as Ammler 15:28:22 *** e1ko [~L@205.117.broadband9.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 15:35:00 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:35:35 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:38:08 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 15:41:43 *** eJoJ [~Aim@89.10.21.193] has joined #openttd 15:41:54 *** e1ko [~L@205.117.broadband9.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: bye, Im going off] 15:48:43 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:02:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DDEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:04:16 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:04:32 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4aeb.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:09:43 <geoffk> anyone any good with days and dates in the game? for converting dates to days and days to dates im tring to make a hex converting tool for grf's 16:11:26 <geoffk> for most dates in the game i got it working, but odd ones i get confilcting results and i don't know how its programmed to handle it in 1st place thats before taking into account pollitics and date 16:11:58 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:12:15 <Patrick> use the source 16:12:33 <geoffk> i dont know wherre exactly to look 16:13:24 <Patrick> the source is about 5 megs unpacked, right? 16:13:25 <geoffk> at the moment what im doing is in php with a gui 16:13:53 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 16:13:54 <Patrick> so just compile 40 million binaries, each with one bit of source flipped 16:13:54 <geoffk> i'll have a look i might be able to understand the code 16:14:01 <Patrick> and see which one has broken only the date and time 16:14:18 <geoffk> i got no idea how to do that 16:14:33 <geoffk> or know i want to 16:14:35 <Patrick> I was joking :P 16:14:44 <geoffk> lol uyeah kind of figured that :) 16:16:39 <geoffk> most dates i got it working in the game, jsut things somewhere after 2040-01-01 my conversions are getting one day out might be others, also example 1640-01-01 gives a few days out converting somewhere 16:16:45 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:17:14 <geoffk> i have loaded any of the dates int he game yet to see what the game thinks the dates are 16:17:25 <geoffk> haven't* 16:17:33 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4aeb.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:17:54 <Sacro|Laptop> Patrick> use the source <- luke? 16:18:10 <Patrick> quite 16:20:40 <Sionide> :) 16:21:38 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 16:31:01 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 16:31:32 *** waxman_ [~cfluegel@static.88-198-83-123.clients.your-server.de] has joined #openttd 16:31:34 *** waxman_ [~cfluegel@static.88-198-83-123.clients.your-server.de] has quit [] 16:32:34 *** Chronic-_- [~a@195.0.160.106] has joined #openttd 16:32:57 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:33:24 <Chronic-_-> is there an admin for sandra-bullock.co.uk here? 16:33:53 <Patrick> that's a really really bizzare thing to say 16:33:56 <Patrick> are you a bot? 16:34:35 <Chronic-_-> maybe yes, maybe no 16:35:00 <TinoM|> no, there are several ottd-servers on that domain 16:35:29 <Chronic-_-> alright 16:35:33 <Chronic-_-> just this guy ruining the game 16:35:38 <Chronic-_-> :! 16:36:04 *** Biff [~biff@30.80-203-176.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 16:36:24 <Biff> openttd: /home/magne/src/openttd-svn/openttd/src/engine.cpp:430: CargoID GetEngineCargoType(EngineID): Assertion `IsEngineIndex(engine)' failed. 16:36:28 <Biff> hmm 16:36:54 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-134-124.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:37:08 <Sacro|Laptop> Patrick: are you a bot? 16:37:17 <Patrick> :P 16:37:22 <Patrick> Chronic-_-: hehe 16:37:29 <Patrick> sorry, it read a bit like a viral thing 16:37:35 <Patrick> join channel, mention link 16:37:48 <Chronic-_-> I ment the server 16:37:50 <Chronic-_-> it's called that 16:37:52 <Sacro|Laptop> it should at least say "evening all" first 16:38:16 <Patrick> well, I figured that was what the 50 second delay way for 16:41:53 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:44:31 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-134-124.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:55:15 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:58:14 *** alanin is now known as Alanin 16:58:47 *** Alanin is now known as alanin 16:59:56 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:01 *** alanin is now known as Alanin 17:03:03 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4AEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:03:08 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 17:03:14 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05:05 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 17:18:29 *** maddy [Marc-Andre@AMontpellier-256-1-122-252.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 17:18:37 <maddy> hiho 17:18:58 <maddy> Brianetta, the servers lag is too high to play on it 17:23:06 *** Alanin is now known as alanin 17:29:27 *** alanin is now known as Alanin 17:30:26 *** Alanin is now known as alanin 17:33:06 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5E9E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:38:01 *** UndernotBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.196] has joined #openttd 17:39:13 *** eJoJ [~Aim@89.10.21.193] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41:25 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 17:44:37 *** eJoJ [~Aim@89.10.21.193] has joined #openttd 17:52:53 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:53:00 <UndernotBuilder> IDEA IDEA IDEA: what about world wrap (like in a civilization 2 option) 17:53:16 <peter1138> no 17:53:23 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:54:41 <UndernotBuilder> why? for world maps it can give more realism 17:55:56 <Patrick> world wrap would be interesting 17:56:07 <TrueBrain> I feel a patch coming up 17:56:07 <Sacro|Laptop> cylindrical world? 17:56:16 <Sacro|Laptop> TrueBrain: how does it feel? 17:56:24 <UndernotBuilder> yes, something like that 17:56:24 <TrueBrain> oh, no I thought UndernotBuilder was going to do one 17:56:41 <Sacro|Laptop> a spherical world would be too complex 17:56:57 <Sacro|Laptop> can't see how hard a cylindrical one would be though... 17:58:19 <Patrick> spherical would be interesting 17:58:24 <UndernotBuilder> and the pathfinder will go crazy 17:58:34 <Patrick> you could do a teardrop shape by matching up opposite edges 17:58:45 <Patrick> no, it'd be a torus 17:58:57 <hylje> torus :o 17:58:59 <TrueBrain> make a map that wraps in the complex dimension 17:59:00 <TrueBrain> YEAH! 17:59:01 *** alanin is now known as Alanin 17:59:02 <Patrick> hah 17:59:11 <Patrick> no, but seriously, world wrap 17:59:23 <Patrick> the pathfinder could be taken care of by tripling the map size virtually 17:59:32 <hylje> TrueBrain: a map that wraps randomly 17:59:32 <TrueBrain> no, but seriously, 32x zoom out 17:59:32 <Patrick> maintaining another copy of the map on the left and right 17:59:33 <TrueBrain> hylje: complex dimension is not really random 17:59:35 <Patrick> that'd be a HORRIBLE HACK 17:59:38 *** Alanin is now known as alanin 18:00:06 <peter1138> have fun with your sprite sorter, heh 18:00:09 <Patrick> not really though, you just connect every map crossover point as a zero-cost node link 18:00:25 <Patrick> so the pathfinder thinks that it's free to travel that particular 2000-tile distance 18:00:28 <Patrick> which it is 18:00:39 <Sacro|Laptop> hylje: torus is just stupid :p 18:01:15 <Sacro|Laptop> what next... mobius strip? 18:01:24 <Patrick> at least support for land on the edge of the map 18:01:35 <mikk36> uuu, nice, slicker-looking wiki :D 18:01:55 <Sacro|Laptop> hmm, has OpenTTD been updated AGAIN 18:01:58 <mikk36> at least the big icons :) 18:02:12 <Sacro|Laptop> pfft... 18:04:59 <Sacro|Laptop> damn... 18:05:08 <Sacro|Laptop> ArchLinux doesn't allow hyphens in version numbers 18:05:16 <skidd13> I get an assertion in engine.cpp. Is this a known bug? 18:05:16 <Patrick> that's stupid 18:05:38 <Sacro|Laptop> skidd13: depends where 18:05:50 <skidd13> ./src/engine.cpp:430: CargoID GetEngineCargoType(EngineID): Assertion `IsEngineIndex(engine)' failed. 18:07:00 <Thomas[NL]> eh this: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=587828#587828, is not trunk is it? 18:07:00 <skidd13> Happens since the merge of the group GUI 18:07:40 <Sacro|Laptop> @openttd commit 9879 18:07:42 <DorpsGek> Sacro|Laptop: Commit by rubidium :: r9879 trunk/src/players.cpp (2007-05-19 12:46:48 UTC) 18:07:44 <DorpsGek> Sacro|Laptop: -Fix (r9874): global autoreplace was little broken ;) 18:08:06 <Sacro|Laptop> Thomas[NL]: no, tis't trunk AFAIK 18:08:25 <mikk36> hmm 18:08:26 <mikk36> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Cargo_Packets 18:08:32 <mikk36> Have a look at the cargo-packets branch online, or checkout a copy from: 18:08:36 <mikk36> http://svn.openttd.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/browser/branches/cargo-packets/ 18:08:41 <mikk36> last link is not available 18:08:49 <Sacro|Laptop> trac has been down for aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages 18:09:01 <mikk36> could someone then update wiki then ? 18:09:19 <Sacro|Laptop> just click edit :p 18:09:41 <skidd13> Sacro|Laptop: nope, isn't fixed with that. I'm already at this version. 18:09:53 *** maddy [Marc-Andre@AMontpellier-256-1-122-252.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 18:11:44 <Sacro|Laptop> nope, signal autodrag isn't in trunk 18:12:11 <mikk36> newcargos is in the trunk, right ? 18:12:33 <skidd13> but not newindustrys 18:12:35 <Sacro|Laptop> errr... 18:12:48 <Sacro|Laptop> why does my trains list have the french flag in the bottom right corner? 18:12:57 <Sacro|Laptop> guess its in case i need to surrender my trains... 18:13:44 <mikk36> then this page is wrong too :P 18:13:44 <mikk36> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/FAQ_NewGRF#I.E2.80.99ve_downloaded_and_installed_a_NewGRF_set_that_includes_both_new_vehicles_and_new_town_buildings.__Why_am_I_seeing_the_new_vehicles.2C_but_not_the_new_buildings_in_the_game.3F 18:14:00 <mikk36> shows no support for new cargo at all 18:15:14 <skidd13> (IIRC) without newindustries you can't use them 18:15:33 <mikk36> oh 18:15:43 *** Chronic-_- [~a@195.0.160.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:55 <peter1138> you can since earlier today 18:16:04 <mikk36> and why aint newindustries in that list ? 18:16:05 <peter1138> towns can produce stuff 18:16:44 <peter1138> @openttd commit 9876 18:16:44 <DorpsGek> peter1138: Commit by peter1138 :: r9876 /trunk/src (newgrf.cpp town_cmd.cpp) (2007-05-19 11:17:30 UTC) 18:16:45 <DorpsGek> peter1138: -Codechange: [NewHouses] Add support for callback 2E (cargo production) 18:17:09 <peter1138> so far i've had towns making tourists, heh 18:19:52 <Sacro|Laptop> peter1138: is that Whitehands grf? 18:21:39 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Going for birthday curry at a local posh restaurant] 18:21:51 <Phazorx> peter1138: how hard would it to be link improved loading behavior only to full load trains? 18:22:55 <Sacro|Laptop> ooh i found a bug 18:23:12 <TrueBrain> just one? 18:23:15 <Sacro|Laptop> TrueBrain: yes 18:23:15 <TrueBrain> you should eat it 18:23:22 <Sacro|Laptop> its a recent commit too 18:23:26 <Phazorx> coopers often running into issues when improved loading limit 2nd tier cargo delivery since even if stati on 20 platforms wide only one train loads at time and with small traisn they can just never take all 18:23:32 <Sacro|Laptop> in the new train selection window 18:23:38 <Sacro|Laptop> the resize button appears to be a french flag 18:24:17 <TrueBrain> nasty 18:24:26 <TrueBrain> who can we find to blame.... 18:24:27 <Sacro|Laptop> i thoguht it was to surrender my trains 18:24:27 <peter1138> orly 18:24:37 <Sacro|Laptop> lets blame peter1138 18:24:41 <peter1138> you probably ought to actually use the correct openttd.grf 18:24:48 <Sacro|Laptop> the correct one? 18:24:50 <Sacro|Laptop> ah 18:24:53 <Sacro|Laptop> that explains the error 18:24:58 <TrueBrain> so we blame Sacro|Laptop 18:24:58 <TrueBrain> good! 18:25:05 <Sacro|Laptop> ah yes 18:25:11 <peter1138> imbecile 18:25:17 <Sacro|Laptop> cp /usr/share/openttd/data/* ./data 18:25:22 <Sacro|Laptop> guessing that caused it 18:25:56 <Sacro|Laptop> indeed it did 18:26:03 <Sacro|Laptop> i got a console message about the wrong grf 18:26:09 <Sacro|Laptop> but it just carried on regardless 18:26:14 <Phazorx> peter1138: my Q? 18:26:37 <peter1138> no idea 18:26:42 <Phazorx> :/ 18:27:04 <Phazorx> i'd like that very much and probably easier to do rather than per station loading chooser 18:29:58 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:30:48 <peter1138> heh, my tourists don't pay anything ;( 18:30:50 *** lolman [lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:31:41 <skidd13> The code for cloning is similar to the autorepace, isn't it? 18:31:47 <peter1138> no 18:32:41 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pd9eb5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:32:47 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:42:28 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:43:27 <peter1138> voila 18:45:20 <peter1138> yay, multiplayer game with tourists :D 18:47:25 <Sacro|Laptop> :o 18:50:18 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:50:18 <peter1138> who wants to play with me ;/ 18:50:46 *** alanin is now known as Alanin 18:51:15 <peter1138> hehe, 2cc treats tourists as freight 18:52:28 <Sacro|Laptop> they are :p 18:52:33 <Sacro|Laptop> shove em in a tanker 18:58:19 <mikk36> :) 18:58:31 <hylje> yeah tanker known as carriage 18:58:59 <peter1138> hmm, tourists pay a lot more than passengers 18:59:10 <mikk36> they are frieght if u think of them as illegal workers :P 18:59:11 <peter1138> Sacro|Laptop: it's only the colour, it's still a carriage ;p 19:00:26 <Sacro|Laptop> peter1138: aww :( 19:00:34 <Sacro|Laptop> i wanted to herd them into a hopper or something 19:00:39 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/tourists.png :D 19:01:23 <glx> peter1138: can you try my patch with that? 19:01:59 <peter1138> what uses those? 19:02:06 <glx> ttrs3 19:02:20 <glx> it checks for TOUR and PETR presence 19:02:48 <peter1138> do you know what it'll change? 19:03:28 <glx> I guess it disables some things but don't know what 19:05:10 <peter1138> yeah 19:05:17 <peter1138> petrol stations don't appear if PETR isn't available 19:05:27 <peter1138> tourist attractions do though 19:05:49 <Sacro|Laptop> petrol? 19:05:56 <Sacro|Laptop> provided at a refinary i guess? 19:06:10 <peter1138> where available == exists as a cargo type 19:07:29 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:07:39 <peter1138> ah, it doesn't check for TOUR 19:08:10 <peter1138> just PETR 19:08:15 <peter1138> so it works 19:09:34 <peter1138> glx: so, go ahead and commit 19:10:23 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:10:40 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pd9eb5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:11:17 *** eJoJ [~Aim@89.10.21.193] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:11:20 <peter1138> http://www.openttd.org/server_detail.php?id=486 < quite a lot... 19:13:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r9880 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Add: [NewGRF] Add action 7/9 condition 0B/0C (cargo type availability) 19:13:41 *** Alanin is now known as alanin 19:14:25 <Patrick> hmm, grfs seem too powerful 19:14:38 <Patrick> they are doing a lot of things I'd expect to be patch options 19:14:49 <Patrick> perhaps some patch options or all of them can be moved out 19:14:57 <peter1138> like what? 19:15:04 <Patrick> I dunno, that's why I'm asking 19:15:16 <Patrick> on that list, things like long trains or modified building costs 19:17:10 <Sacro|Laptop> peter1138: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=32082 bug post in wrong place 19:17:20 <Sacro|Laptop> its a M version, which he admitted in another thread 19:17:45 <peter1138> of course it is 19:19:45 * peter1138 updates the subject and continues ignoring it 19:20:11 <mikk36> Q: would there be a time when obselete currencies would be removed ? 19:20:27 <peter1138> what about obsolete? 19:20:37 <mikk36> for example finnish marks 19:20:39 <peter1138> they're disabled at a certain point 19:20:46 <mikk36> hmm 19:21:06 <mikk36> auo-converted to euro etc ? 19:21:10 <mikk36> auto* 19:21:11 <glx> yes 19:21:12 <mikk36> k 19:21:59 <Sacro|Laptop> peter1138: nicely done 19:22:28 <mikk36> and using float values for currency relations is not planned ? 19:22:36 <peter1138> Sacro|Laptop: fwiw i'd rather it's there (though it would be better in the siggui thread) and in the official bug tracker 19:23:13 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:23:32 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:24:15 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:38:42 <glx> mikk36: different CPU types can have different 'rounding' with float, and that can break MP games 19:39:04 <mikk36> same with floats ? 19:39:14 <mikk36> damn 19:39:17 <mikk36> doubles* 19:39:25 <peter1138> glx: shouldn't matter here 19:39:28 <glx> double are floats 19:39:30 <peter1138> as it's only visual 19:39:42 <mikk36> right 19:39:51 <mikk36> and currency is calculated at the client 19:42:02 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 19:43:06 <mikk36> mmm.... 19:43:14 <mikk36> yummi @ condensed milk with sugar 19:47:24 <mikk36> and another Q: which pathfinder overrides which ? 19:47:43 <glx> OPF<NPF<YAPF 19:47:44 <peter1138> yapf -> npf -> old 19:47:52 <mikk36> k 19:48:27 <mikk36> wouldn't it be better to create just 4 selects ? 19:48:34 <mikk36> one for each vehicle type ? 19:48:40 <Rubidium> skidd13: how can I reproduce FS#782 with that savegame? 19:48:56 <mikk36> so that i can choose what type of pathfinding i want for each type 19:49:15 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:49:21 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:50:03 <peter1138> cos npf is either on or off 19:50:15 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:52:19 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 19:53:19 <skidd13> Rubidium: yes 19:54:08 <mikk36> peter1138, but if i set yapf on for every vehicle type, then changing npf on or off becomes obselete, right ? 19:54:20 <glx> yes 19:54:37 <skidd13> Rubidium: wait a while, then clone some of the grouped trains, till one of the old ones go into a depot 19:55:07 <skidd13> I ment after cloning ~5-10 trains sent them all out 19:56:00 <skidd13> I did it with the deopt near "Copper Load 374x459" 19:56:19 <mikk36> and why does yapf default to off for ships ? 19:57:34 <hylje> it sucks 19:58:07 <peter1138> it's slow for ships 19:58:14 <Patrick> then delete it 19:58:28 <peter1138> personally i've not noticed it 19:58:51 <mikk36> maybe it'd be nice to put a warning there ? 19:59:37 <Patrick> like the station spread warning 19:59:40 <Patrick> which means nothing :/ 19:59:52 <mikk36> hmm 20:00:00 <mikk36> difficulty page 20:00:07 <mikk36> max initial loan 20:00:16 <mikk36> i have currency set to USD but it shows there 20:00:26 <mikk36> ahh snap 20:00:29 <mikk36> my bad 20:02:51 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:03:56 <mikk36> peter1138, could u give me an archive of your grf's ? 20:11:44 <mikk36> uhm 20:11:50 <mikk36> a strange "feature" 20:11:56 <mikk36> when i open just landscaping 20:12:03 <mikk36> it sends it to 2nd row 20:12:39 <mikk36> if i have linked building and landscaping, it goes to 1st row and building shifts left by landscaping windows's length 20:12:50 <peter1138> yars 20:13:11 <mikk36> i actually prefer original way 20:13:20 <mikk36> so that building window wouldn't get shifted to left 20:13:25 <peter1138> someone else didn't :) 20:13:39 <mikk36> anyway, there's a "bug" now 20:16:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9881 /trunk/src/autoreplace_cmd.cpp: -Fix (FS#782, r9874): accidentally removed one condition too many causing asserts. 20:17:33 <mikk36> still, could u give me the archive with all used grf's for your server ? 20:17:37 <mikk36> peter1138 20:17:40 <peter1138> no 20:17:47 <peter1138> i don't have permission currently 20:17:53 <peter1138> nor all the readmes, heh 20:18:07 <glx> just give him the list :) 20:19:46 <peter1138> http://www.openttd.org/server_detail.php?id=486 < that one? :p 20:20:17 <mikk36> that seems enough :) 20:20:21 <mikk36> but got a q again 20:20:45 <mikk36> how come a competitor got still a "poor" rating after doing huge amounts of landscaping around the city ? 20:20:58 <peter1138> AI? 20:21:02 <peter1138> or real 20:21:04 <mikk36> somehow their count got back to 2, so i have 2 of them in :P 20:21:05 <mikk36> AI 20:21:20 <peter1138> cos the AI is given leeway, cos it's crap 20:21:27 <mikk36> k :P 20:21:38 <mikk36> and how do i get rid of AI in non-network game ? 20:21:59 <UndernotBuilder> signal gui in trunk? is that right? 20:22:05 <peter1138> UndernotBuilder: no 20:22:10 <mikk36> what was the command ? 20:22:19 <UndernotBuilder> then why this http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=587823#587823 ? 20:22:31 <Rubidium> mikk36: set amount of AIs to 0 and a) wait till they die or b) buy them 20:22:32 <peter1138> UndernotBuilder: because they're a twerp 20:22:43 <mikk36> argh :P 20:22:51 <peter1138> UndernotBuilder: the guy didn't know what the "M" in the revision meant... 20:23:03 <peter1138> ahh.. the wonders of letting people without clue compile stuff easily... :o 20:23:29 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:23:38 <UndernotBuilder> will be too hard split those two patches? 20:24:24 <peter1138> you could give it a go 20:24:32 <peter1138> though i thought someone already did it 20:24:53 <UndernotBuilder> yes but patch is old... 20:25:05 <glx> and? 20:25:29 <UndernotBuilder> is hard updating it to current trunk? 20:26:09 <glx> signal code hadn't change for a long time, so you can try to apply it 20:26:49 <UndernotBuilder> buildottd will help? 20:26:54 <Rubidium> that reminds me of something ;) 20:27:50 *** Szandor [~user@host-84-9-129-182.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 20:28:00 <Rubidium> we still haven't accessored the signal code... 20:28:02 <glx> but if the patch is pre-cpp then it will be a little harder 20:28:21 <Rubidium> it's 54xx IIRC 20:28:31 <glx> right we didn't finish accessors :) 20:29:00 <mikk36> peter1138, and u can't give me the grf's conf either ? 20:29:18 <peter1138> conf? 20:30:18 <mikk36> well, some grf's support attributes 20:31:04 <mikk36> Szandor, what's the difference between those 20:31:04 <mikk36> brickfreight.GRF 20:31:04 <mikk36> brickfreightw.GRF 20:31:11 <mikk36> argh @ autocomplete 20:31:13 <UndernotBuilder> I find the autocompletion without gui but not the other way 20:31:14 <mikk36> gotta disable it 20:31:27 <UndernotBuilder> now find it 20:31:35 <UndernotBuilder> it was the first item 20:31:51 <mikk36> (nick autocomplete) 20:32:25 <UndernotBuilder> SignalGUI_r5435.patch 20:32:33 <UndernotBuilder> this is the one I need right? 20:32:51 <peter1138> mikk36: all the that is saved with the savegame, so there's nothing to specify 20:33:09 <mikk36> what if i want to create a new game for myself ? :) 20:33:14 <mikk36> with same grf settings 20:33:21 <peter1138> well, yes 20:33:35 <Wolf01> 'night 20:33:44 <peter1138> i have 1 on av8, so show the larger airships 20:33:45 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host96-237-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:33:50 <UndernotBuilder> but is useful here buildottd or I need to apply it manually? 20:34:19 <yeti_> you will probably need to apply it manually, and if you're unlucky, fix the rejects 20:34:27 <Patrick> ... 20:34:42 <Patrick> you're advising someone using an automated tool for compiling to write C :) 20:34:44 <Patrick> good luck 20:35:38 <Rubidium> well, when buildottd checks out r5435, applies it to there and then updates I'm certain it will compile ;) 20:35:39 <mikk36> hmm 20:35:51 <mikk36> there are several grf's not listed in crawler... 20:36:09 <UndernotBuilder> which revision I have to checkout? 20:36:18 <glx> 5435 20:36:26 <UndernotBuilder> for update it... 20:36:39 <yeti_> rubidium: uh, "then updates"? that means it will apply the later revisions on top? but then you might have rejects there because of the changes? 20:36:58 <glx> yeti_: conflicts, not rejects 20:37:08 <Rubidium> yeti_: it won't give conflicts/rejects for a very simple reason 20:37:53 <Rubidium> the merge of cpp removes all files and copies a lot of files from the repository, basically ignoring *any* patches you have applied to it 20:38:05 <Rubidium> so you basically end up with a completely clean trunk 20:38:31 <UndernotBuilder> what I want is update the signal gui alone to a recent revision 20:38:42 <peter1138> it'll need to be done manually 20:38:45 <peter1138> basically 20:38:54 <UndernotBuilder> so for that purpose, what revision I need? 20:39:19 <Rubidium> I guess HEAD 20:39:35 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:39:51 <UndernotBuilder> HEAD will return last revision? 20:40:15 <yeti_> rubidium: i still don't get it. say he's downloading 5435, then applies singal_gui, which changes rail_cmd.cpp or something like that. now say there have been changes in rail_cmd.cpp too in r6000, then it will either be overwritten with the r6000, losing signal_gui, or give conflicts 20:40:55 <Rubidium> yeti_: before C++ all files were C files (.cpp vs .c) 20:41:30 <UndernotBuilder> checkouting it without any options is giving me the right revision I think 20:41:31 <Rubidium> and 5435 is **way** before the introduction of C++ 20:41:33 <glx> and that's mainly what that killed miniin :) 20:41:59 <glx> too much work to do this simple sync 20:42:01 <Rubidium> glx: that's not really true 20:42:16 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:42:32 <Rubidium> there were much more things before the merge of C++ that would cause big problems with syncing MiniIN 20:42:35 <yeti_> Rubidium: yep, there's no .c in latest trunk, but then applying signal_gui to 5xxx and trying to upgrade to some later revision (some cpp-revision) is completely impossible without losing signal_gui 20:43:04 <Rubidium> basically yes 20:43:04 <UndernotBuilder> well will be other day... now I have to go 20:43:07 <glx> Rubidium: yes, subsidiaries was a big mess 20:43:09 <UndernotBuilder> byes 20:43:15 <yeti_> bye UndernotBuilder 20:43:20 *** UndernotBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.196] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]] 20:44:05 <Rubidium> the real problem was that RichK67 hadn't much time to add new patches and such 20:44:27 <glx> and it was not fun to sync 20:44:29 <Rubidium> and that I didn't want to go through the hassle of syncing and debugging MiniIN 20:45:04 <glx> I did some syncs, too much work 20:45:20 <Rubidium> because: "he, this is my patch, it works for me... please apply" -> it gets applied and doesn't work at all in for example MP 20:45:49 <glx> or conflicts with another patch 20:46:33 <Rubidium> and (most) patch authors dumping the debugging and fixing of their patches on the MiniIN dev(s) 20:47:26 <glx> anyway why should I start to talk about miniin :) 20:47:40 <glx> s/should/did/ 20:49:49 <peter1138> heh 20:50:43 * peter1138 ponders not using grfs that are not on grfcrawler 20:52:06 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:53:17 <mikk36> peter1138, why do u use them then ? :D 20:53:38 <Tefad> double negative 20:53:44 <mikk36> agh, nothing, misunderstoof word "ponder" 20:53:55 <Tefad> "thinks about" 20:53:59 <mikk36> yup 20:54:05 <mikk36> i already checked from dictionary 20:54:28 <Tefad> english has too many words 20:54:39 <mikk36> nah it doesn't 20:54:47 <Rubidium> only about 1 000 000 IIRC ;) 20:54:48 <mikk36> the more the better 20:55:10 <mikk36> including slang, local mutations etc ? 20:55:16 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:55:35 <Tefad> during my last move, ALL of my p2 desktop machines stopped functioning correctly 20:55:48 <mikk36> lucky :D 20:56:03 <Tefad> the lone celeron i use as router still works, as do my laptops and main machines 20:56:16 <Tefad> p2's are pretty decent for side projects 20:56:24 <Tefad> or secondary desktop systems 20:56:32 <mikk36> peter1138, are you using an old version of ttrs ? 20:56:43 <mikk36> pre 3.02a ? 20:56:52 <Tefad> i first played TTD on a pentium 60MHz... 20:57:08 <mikk36> my first pc was P133 (without MMX) 20:57:08 <yeti_> Tefad: how many machines do you have and what do you do with all of them ;) ? 20:57:23 <mikk36> on which i played TT (not deluxe) 20:57:29 <Tefad> i have over 10 20:57:43 <Tefad> i'm on my laptop right now because i don't have my KVM installed yet 20:58:07 <Tefad> my main system is 2.4GHz machine with companion torrent/file server 1.7GHz box 20:58:28 <Tefad> wife has 400MHz desktop and 366MHz laptop 20:58:43 <Tefad> 566MHz celeron router 20:59:18 <Tefad> and i'm presently playing with a 300MHz downclocked to 266MHz (dunno why, probably mobo has fixed frontside) to replace the present router setup 21:00:11 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5E9E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 21:00:28 <Tefad> then there's 3x old PPC macs, a DEC alpha box, and a couple more p2 boxes, my first p60 box, and a spare parts p60 box, and some random p133 i picked up (onboard USB though). 21:01:08 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 21:01:17 <Tefad> at one point i had a p60 set up to boot from a dos floppy and play ogg vorbis/mp3/flac via SMB share. 21:01:40 <Tefad> p60 can play most and vorbis file.. was rather amusing to me 21:01:46 <Tefad> most any 21:01:59 <Tefad> anyway, enough OT 21:02:35 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5E9E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:02:36 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5E9E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 21:03:14 <peter1138> ok, 6 grfs removed 21:03:21 <peter1138> and ttrs3 updated 21:03:21 <peter1138> o_O 21:06:29 <peter1138> hmm, crap, that includes the industrial stations... 21:23:22 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 21:25:12 <mikk36> argh 21:25:17 <mikk36> tourist grf gives 404 21:25:24 <mikk36> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/index.php?do=search&q=534C5455 21:25:41 <mikk36> peter1138, help :D 21:26:03 <peter1138> mo' 21:26:28 <peter1138> http://whitehand.bur.st/GRF/ 21:27:11 <peter1138> touristw.zip 21:33:56 <mikk36> :( 21:33:59 <mikk36> no industry stations 21:34:25 <mikk36> why aren't the industry stations in grfcrawler ? 21:35:45 <mikk36> uhm 21:35:52 <mikk36> i got a graphics glitch 21:35:58 <mikk36> a good one 21:37:21 <peter1138> where? 21:37:30 <peter1138> hmm, yes 21:37:35 <mikk36> sec, uploading 21:37:40 <peter1138> saw it, heh 21:37:55 <mikk36> those gas station signs ? 21:38:01 <mikk36> and a bit more 21:38:21 <mikk36> http://pildid.mikk36.eu/v/sodi/glitch.PNG.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1 21:41:28 <mikk36> having fun, peter1138 ? 21:41:34 <peter1138> testing, yes 21:43:59 <mikk36> lol 21:44:07 <mikk36> bolster wagon transporting tourists xD 21:44:15 <mikk36> also open wagon 21:44:57 <mikk36> and goods wagon (resembles very much deporting wagons :P) 21:45:36 <mikk36> uhm 21:46:00 <mikk36> why does it need to give me a window about having too few orders when i just created the first order ? 21:46:20 <peter1138> normally you give orders before starting it 21:46:26 <peter1138> and it needs two 21:46:27 <Tefad> because it just checked 21:46:29 <mikk36> i hadn't started it yet 21:46:33 <mikk36> it was stopped in depot 21:46:48 <Tefad> it polls orders, and polled yours before you fininshed 21:46:55 <Tefad> finished too 21:47:33 <mikk36> what's the long for T.E. ? 21:47:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9882 /trunk/src/group_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r9874): the "default group" is also a valid group in some cases. 21:47:48 <peter1138> hmm 21:48:32 <peter1138> ok, found the cause of the graphic glitches 21:48:34 <peter1138> tractive effort 21:49:13 <Tefad> heh TE was a bit weird 21:49:22 <mikk36> why ? 21:49:57 <Tefad> slightly abstract for casual player 21:50:02 <mikk36> but i don't see why there needs to be "Max" before it 21:50:18 <mikk36> Tefad, might be, so is torque for cars 21:50:26 <peter1138> because it's not constant 21:50:34 <mikk36> neither is power 21:50:43 <Tefad> torque only matters within the drivetrain 21:50:46 <peter1138> it is in ttd's world :) 21:50:53 <mikk36> argh 21:50:59 <Tefad> at the wheels/tires only power matters 21:52:17 <mikk36> and the cause is, peter1138 ? 21:55:03 <peter1138> for me to know and carry on solving, and you to ignore 21:57:16 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 21:59:34 <Patrick> aargh 21:59:39 <Patrick> don't touch tractive effort 21:59:48 <Patrick> kickoff delays make me irrationally bitch 22:01:25 <Sacro> TE :D 22:04:17 <peter1138> heh 22:04:20 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13:38 *** Sleepie [~Sleepie@p54b37365.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: 3...2...1...quit] 22:17:07 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:14 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 22:37:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9883 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix (r4965): [NewGRF] Check for overflow and carry over when adding to the existing value. 22:37:55 <peter1138> mikk36: that ;p 22:38:12 <mikk36> hm, ok :P 22:40:15 *** maddy [Marc-Andre@AMontpellier-256-1-122-252.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 22:48:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r9884 /trunk/src/ (6 files): 22:48:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Feature: 2 new zoom-out levels: 8 times and 16 times 22:48:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: unified the blitter function so we have 1 function for all zoom-levels 22:48:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: make most of the label functions work with zoom-level instead of magic numbers and big switches per zoom-level 22:48:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: MakeXXXDirty() functions didn't take into account zoom-level, but just used the biggest possible value 22:48:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: simplified blitter functions to avoid code duplication 22:48:36 <peter1138> spam! 22:48:44 <TrueBrain> eat dirt! :) 22:48:50 <TrueBrain> I have CIA-1 on mute, so I don't care anyway :p 22:48:54 <Rubidium> I rather eat spam ;) 22:48:57 <peter1138> heh 22:49:36 <Sionide> wow 22:49:38 <Sionide> new zoom levels 22:49:42 <Sionide> aaawesome 22:49:47 <peter1138> and damned slow they are too 22:49:49 <TrueBrain> they look pretty :) 22:49:54 <TrueBrain> peter1138: get a real machine :p 22:50:03 <Sionide> i'm gonna have to try 22:50:11 <Sionide> is one of them the world map view, but full screen...? 22:50:24 <TrueBrain> depending on your map-size, yes :p 22:50:27 <Sionide> or is it just the normal sprites, at 50% of the size, say? 22:50:30 <Sionide> ohh 22:50:38 <TrueBrain> it is 2 times more zoom-out then you have now :p 22:50:48 * Sionide downloads svn 22:50:58 <Patrick> so, do the normal 2x and 4x zoom levels now not look like ass? 22:51:14 <TrueBrain> depending on how you define an ass, no 22:51:36 <Patrick> "the way they used to look, which was ass" 22:51:52 <TrueBrain> they looked fine to me 22:52:30 <yeti_> hooray for new zoom levels 22:52:34 <yeti_> *compiling right now* 22:52:59 <peter1138> palette animation is freaky when zoomed fully out :) 22:53:09 <TrueBrain> peter1138: yup :) 22:53:32 <TrueBrain> that is what you get with a simple byte-skip zoom-out routine :) 22:53:40 <Sionide> bleeeeeding edge 22:53:40 <Sionide> love it 22:53:55 <Sionide> does these zoom levels need bug testing then? :) 22:54:09 <peter1138> there are no bugs 22:54:10 <TrueBrain> peter1138: if we would add averaging zoom-out routine, it would be much more pretty :) But... it would never run on your machine ;) 22:54:20 * Sionide compiles 22:54:38 <peter1138> yeah 22:54:40 <peter1138> sleepytime 22:54:52 <TrueBrain> night peter1138 22:54:55 <TrueBrain> tnx for the help :) 22:56:16 <yeti_> water does totally look like disco when zoomed out ;) 22:56:27 <TrueBrain> lucky I always have full animation off... 22:57:42 * Sacro svn up's 22:57:42 * yeti_ wonders where you can turn that off 22:58:00 <yeti_> ah, found it 22:58:34 <Sacro> why does make rebuild the whole thing 22:58:44 <Sacro> can't it just do all the ones that where updated by svn 22:58:53 <Patrick> it does smart dependancies 22:59:07 <Sacro> mmm 22:59:08 <TrueBrain> zoom.hpp changed, which is needed by gfx.h, which is needed by many files :) 22:59:10 <Sacro> i doubt it 22:59:18 <Patrick> what TrueBrain said 22:59:19 <TrueBrain> believe Patrick :) 22:59:21 <Patrick> change in headers 22:59:30 <Patrick> I've had svn ups where only afew files recompiled 22:59:32 <Sacro|Laptop> /home/ben/OpenTTD/trunk/src/yapf/../misc/blob.hpp: In member function 'void CBlobT<Titem_, Tbase_>::Free() [with Titem_ = int, Tbase_ = CBlobBaseSimple]': 22:59:32 <Sacro|Laptop> /home/ben/OpenTTD/trunk/src/yapf/../misc/blob.hpp:240: warning: assuming signed overflow does not occur when assuming that (X - c) >= X is always true 22:59:32 <Sacro|Laptop> /home/ben/OpenTTD/trunk/src/yapf/../misc/blob.hpp: In destructor 'CBlobT<Titem_, Tbase_>::~CBlobT() [with Titem_ = int, Tbase_ = CBlobBaseSimple]': 22:59:33 <Sacro|Laptop> /home/ben/OpenTTD/trunk/src/yapf/../misc/blob.hpp:240: warning: assuming signed overflow does not occur when assuming that (X - c) >= X is always true 22:59:59 <Sionide> wow 23:00:05 <Sionide> that's rrrrreally nice 23:00:36 <Sacro> its a bit hard to work at full zoom out 23:03:39 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04:18 <glx> Sacro: what weird compiler are you using? 23:04:44 <Sacro> glx: gcc 23:05:01 <Sacro> 4.2.0 23:05:59 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-97.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 23:07:36 <Sionide> there needs to be a patch, so if you destroy some farm land, it goes back and becomes part of the field after a while 23:09:00 <mikk36> TrueBrain, why brain ? 23:09:10 <TrueBrain> why 36? 23:09:28 <glx> mikk36: because he doesn't have one :p 23:09:35 <TrueBrain> :'( 23:10:11 * glx hugs TrueBrain 23:10:16 <TrueBrain> :$ 23:10:22 <mikk36> TrueBrain, i've always been mikk36, but u used to be TrueLight 23:10:27 <mikk36> that's my questions motive 23:10:34 <TrueBrain> I used to be many things 23:10:46 <mikk36> so why are you now TrueBrain ? 23:10:59 <mikk36> besides the reason glx brought out 23:11:09 <TrueBrain> why did you ever name yourself mikk36? :) 23:11:14 <mikk36> no idea 23:11:15 <TrueBrain> why is the sun yellow? 23:11:20 <mikk36> because my name is mikk ? 23:11:28 <TrueBrain> and you once were 36 years old :) 23:11:32 <TrueBrain> okay, I see the point ;) 23:11:38 <mikk36> i'm still not 36 23:13:02 <mikk36> still 20 23:17:42 <TrueBrain> hmm, I am getting old :( 23:18:06 <Sacro> [00:11] <<TrueBrain>> why is the sun yellow? <- because of the modal frequency of the radiation it emits 23:18:20 <mikk36> :P 23:18:39 <Sacro> given its temperatusre 23:18:41 <TrueBrain> Sacro: only partly true 23:19:02 <TrueBrain> stricly the sun emits 'white' light 23:19:07 <Sacro> damn :( 23:19:16 <Sacro> i have my astrophysics exam on tuesday 23:19:29 <TrueBrain> I quit my study astrophysics :) 23:19:50 <Sacro> i need to learn the HR diagram... 23:19:53 <TrueBrain> +did 23:19:57 <TrueBrain> HR diagrams are easy 23:20:05 <TrueBrain> you just need to know what is on the axis 23:20:11 <TrueBrain> and remembering thatone of them goes the other way then you assume :) 23:20:14 <Sacro> yeah, thats the problem 23:20:18 <Sacro> yeah, that gets me 23:20:23 <TrueBrain> that gets everyone every time 23:20:28 <TrueBrain> takes around 2 years before you are used to it 23:20:44 <TrueBrain> after buiding your own HR diagram based on M3.... 23:20:49 <Sacro> its only a 1 year course 23:21:16 <TrueBrain> too bad :) 23:21:21 <TrueBrain> it is nice to learn all those things :) 23:21:29 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21:36 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:23:48 <maddy> somehow the "hidden feature" to upgrade a bridge doesn't work, can it be? 23:25:04 <glx> this feature doesn't exist AFAIK 23:25:16 <maddy> why is it then in the Wiki? 23:25:43 <glx> url? 23:25:54 <maddy> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Hidden_Features 23:26:13 <maddy> by 'More features' 23:27:44 <glx> works for me 23:28:42 <Rubidium> maybe maddy's using stable and glx uses trunk? 23:29:01 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:29:15 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:29:17 <maddy> hmm, then someone should add in the wiki that this feature works only in SVN 23:29:42 <glx> you can do it :) 23:29:45 <Touqen> maddy: Why not you? 23:29:48 <Touqen> It is a wiki... 23:29:51 <maddy> ok 23:31:32 <Touqen> Well done. 23:32:06 * Touqen dislikes the code that updates signals :/ 23:32:13 <Touqen> It confuses. 23:33:45 <Sacro> yeah, i'm going to unravel it and recode it 23:33:55 <Sacro> maybe tie it in with squirral 23:34:00 <Sacro> and the new train sorting code 23:36:27 <Touqen> cool beans 23:37:57 * Touqen accidentally drank some week old coffee 23:38:07 <Touqen> It was awful because the milk in it had congealed :/ 23:39:51 <mikk36> lol 23:40:04 <mikk36> and where did you find a week old coffee ? 23:40:14 <Touqen> It was sitting on my desk 23:40:20 <Touqen> It was next to my fresher coffee 23:40:26 <mikk36> lol 23:40:36 <Touqen> In identical opaque cups w/ lids 23:40:37 <Sacro> i might go brew some green tea 23:40:38 <mikk36> u had 2 cold coffees next to each other ? 23:41:02 <Touqen> Yes. 23:41:18 <mikk36> then neither were fresh, right ? 23:41:23 <mikk36> a cold coffee is not fresh 23:41:30 <Touqen> One isn't completely cold. 23:41:34 <Touqen> It's only like 2 hours old or so. 23:42:15 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60EC1.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:45:46 * Touqen is confused about how make_red: works :/ 23:45:48 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FC16.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:45:59 <Sacro> Touqen: it just hardwires the signal state 23:47:26 <Touqen> if ((bit & m2) == 0) continue; (so if it's already red then it doesn't change it otherwise it toggles the signal's state? 23:47:40 <Touqen> which is done via m2 ^ bit ? 23:51:14 <Sacro> which file? 23:51:41 <Touqen> rail_cmd.cpp line 1738 give or take a few 23:51:50 <Touqen> I think I figured it out though. 23:52:17 <Sacro> grrr, can't ssh into laptop 23:52:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r9885 /trunk/src/ (main_gui.cpp openttd.cpp sound.cpp viewport.cpp): 23:52:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix r9846: some last bitshifts with zoom-levels that were forgotten 23:52:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix r9846: initialize the zoom level for 'screen', as assuming 0 is not correct 23:52:59 <TrueBrain> good night all 23:53:02 <Sacro> 1) start sshd 23:53:05 <Sacro> 2) open firewall 23:53:08 <Sacro> TrueBrain: night 23:53:17 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:53:32 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5397.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]