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00:03:19 <Diadem> Guess the newgrf is bugged or something 00:03:35 <peter1138> or you haven't activated transparent trees 00:03:51 <Diadem> what do you mean? 00:05:32 <Diadem> ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.. transparency options... 00:05:45 <Diadem> Ah that explains a lot.. That option doesn't exist in the stable, so hadn't seen it 00:06:45 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-3-131.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 00:06:53 <Sacro> should it be OpenTTD or openttd in the GNOME menu? 00:07:53 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78.107.162.153] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:08:05 <Diadem> thanks peter1138 00:08:17 <Sacro> peter1138: thoughts? 00:08:19 <peter1138> Sacro, OpenTTD 00:08:23 <Sacro> yes, I thoguht so too 00:08:44 <peter1138> Like everything else... 00:09:37 <Diadem> wait... wait.. there's a new stable? 00:09:38 <Sacro> yeah, the original arch dude put openttd 00:09:40 <Sacro> and it looks crap 00:09:52 <Sacro> Diadem: no, its a trap 00:10:02 <Diadem> an april's fools joke? 00:10:17 <Sacro> probably 00:11:18 <Diadem> so where do I find RC1 00:11:31 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-47-193.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:11:50 <Sacro> Diadem: who cares 00:11:55 <Sacro> 0.6.0 is out 00:14:19 <peter1138> innit 00:14:41 <Digitalfox> Diadem: http://www.openttd.org/downloads.php 00:16:42 <glx> @op 00:16:46 *** mode/#openttd [+o glx] by DorpsGek 00:17:00 *** glx changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.6.0 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, NightlyArchive: archive, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | UTF-8 please | No Unauthorised Bots | English Only | http://bugs.openttd.org/ for all related bugs/patches 00:17:40 <Sacro> glx: 0.7.0 :p 00:17:59 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by glx [no :)] 00:18:04 <glx> @deop 00:18:05 *** mode/#openttd [-o glx] by DorpsGek 00:20:22 <Phantasm> I have a bad feeling about that. 00:21:13 <Phantasm> The date sure is quite suitable for a release. ;P 00:21:24 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 00:22:48 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:22:51 <Sacro> hmm 00:25:12 <Diadem> what is timetabling? 00:26:35 <Sacro> have you never used public transport? 00:27:24 <Diadem> ofc 00:27:58 <Diadem> ah you can actually give orders to your vehicles to leave at specific moments? 00:28:43 <Sacro> yes 00:31:05 *** UserError [~User@c-98-202-77-105.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:31:59 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F24C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 00:33:46 <ben_goodger> public... transport? 00:35:56 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77A4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:41:41 <SpComb> ...what's the idea behind doing a major version release on the 1st of April? :/ 00:41:45 * SpComb is afraid to download it 00:42:21 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77C03.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:42:46 <ben_goodger> SpComb: I think it's OK 00:43:07 <SmatZ> it won't erase your hard disk... maybe :) 00:50:53 *** joachim [~joachim@26.84-234-176.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 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Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:55:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r12527 /branches/noai/bin/ai/wrightai/main.nut: [NoAI] -Fix: only the first failing WrightAI could change its name to show it failed 02:00:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.175.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:00:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.167.226] has joined #openttd 02:32:30 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:35:24 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 02:37:47 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:46:33 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-186-011.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:48:28 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-161-243.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:56:05 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined 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brand new" :D 06:34:16 <caladan> even readme was changed... 06:35:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's not like this is totally out of the blue and -RC1 was unplayable and needed years of further development 06:35:50 <caladan> yeah, i know 06:35:59 <caladan> but RC1 was released few days ago 06:36:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> unlike... let's say... a Lost 4x09 preair ;) 06:36:41 <caladan> i dont watch lost so i dont have a clue 06:36:44 <caladan> :D 06:41:14 <caladan> well, the package size on sourceforge changed from RC1 to this one :> 06:41:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> why would it not? 06:42:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> svn log shows you exactly what changed 06:42:38 <caladan> probably it would 06:50:48 *** einKarl [~einKarl@p5499287C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:57:04 <Celestar> morning 06:59:43 <Celestar> @openttd bugs 06:59:44 <caladan> hi 06:59:44 <DorpsGek> Celestar: Open Bugs: 29; Not assigned: 21; Closed this week: 9; Opened this week: 16 07:00:33 <ln> http://www.google.com/virgle/ 07:01:23 <Celestar> we have a release? :o 07:01:30 <Celestar> on April 1st? 07:02:28 <caladan> yup, strange isn't it? 07:02:57 <Celestar> weird 07:03:00 <caladan> i dont see such bug posted, have normal (buslike) stops have any meaning with trams? 07:03:41 <caladan> yup, but if it's not true then at last well hmm, done, readme, forums, sourceforge, everything change to 0.6.0 07:04:37 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 07:05:06 <Forked> 0.6.0 .. is this some sort of april fools thing? 07:06:23 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:06:24 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:07:29 <Celestar> apparently not (= 07:08:30 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-136-232-74.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:08:53 <Celestar> I dunno... :P 07:09:15 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067014.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:11:16 <Celestar> how's the graphics replacement thingy going anyway? 07:11:27 <Celestar> wasn't someone working on it? 07:15:55 <Trond> 8bpp OpenGFX you mean? 07:16:16 <Celestar> sometin like that 07:16:42 <Trond> its going... slowly. But it is going :P 07:17:02 <Celestar> http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/14452 >= LOL! 07:17:28 <Trond> about 1500 sprites is done I think, thats almost half of it... 07:19:10 <Trond> nice logitech mouse there, hehe 07:20:54 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 07:23:20 <peter1138> 1500 is a bit short of half 07:23:39 <Celestar> quite I think 07:24:01 <Trond> dont remember how many sprites there actually are... 07:24:25 <einKarl> Hi, anyone here from the tt-forums.net admins? 07:25:39 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-3-131.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 07:26:31 <peter1138> well the openttdw base is 4896... 07:27:31 <Trond> then I change my statement to be 'around a quarter of it' 07:27:37 <Trond> :P 07:29:33 <Celestar> sound good (= 07:44:13 *** O^Brien [~pIRCuser6@hard-soft--121.colo2.kv.wnet.ua] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:46:20 *** pm|work [~chatzilla@devera.geophys.nat.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:52:21 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:52:42 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:57:01 <larsemil> Trond: norwegian? 08:00:11 *** zand [~xand@raptor.ukc.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: reboot] 08:06:04 * Forked thinks so! 08:06:09 * Forked is too 08:07:57 *** pm|work [~chatzilla@devera.geophys.nat.tu-bs.de] has joined #openttd 08:08:09 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:08:09 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:10:51 <larsemil> Forked: any of you did the NSB trainset? 08:12:11 <Forked> not me 08:12:18 <Forked> I can just barely compile stuff :) 08:13:03 * Celestar HATES the super-nova spell in FF7 08:13:49 * Celestar watches NASA TV while the spell is being cast :P 08:17:52 <Trond> larsemil: yes 08:18:05 *** pm|work [~chatzilla@devera.geophys.nat.tu-bs.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:19:11 <Trond> larsemil: here you can see who worked on NSB trains: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=9628&start=0 08:19:43 * Trond needs coffee 08:26:56 * Celestar finished 08:27:18 <larsemil> Trond: he is a friend of a friend., therefor i wanted just to say hi. :D 08:28:09 <Trond> ah, okey :) 08:28:24 <toet> test 08:28:39 <Trond> test failed, try again 08:34:38 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:35:04 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F566BC.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:37:27 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-199-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:07:08 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 09:10:34 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 09:14:35 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 09:21:28 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.49.21] has joined #openttd 09:38:27 *** einKarl [~einKarl@p5499287C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:41:53 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:43:48 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1F24.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:50:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF49.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:54:03 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-084-063-008-122.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:55:28 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:04:52 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:05:07 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.172] has joined #openttd 10:06:00 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 10:09:35 *** Arie^ [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 10:12:42 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:14:01 <toet> http://www.google.com/virgle/application.html xD go google <(o.o<) (>o.o)> (.)(.) <(o.o<) (>o.o)> 10:15:20 <keyweed> http://www.krenn.nl/aprilfools/ 10:20:58 <toet> http://revpermin.com/images/orly.jpg 10:21:22 * toet wonders how much ppl are gonna send in a 30sec video XD 10:34:47 *** pm|work [~chatzilla@devera.geophys.nat.tu-bs.de] has joined #openttd 10:36:55 *** toet [~Oblivious@3E339CE5.dslaccess.aol.com] has quit [] 10:39:41 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:40:13 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:47:46 *** Morloth [~bram@53542231.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:50:07 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm247.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 10:56:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.167.226] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:59:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.167.226] has joined #openttd 11:02:18 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-196-212.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:06:28 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-136-232-74.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:09:13 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:09:28 *** Morloth [~bram@53542231.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:10:51 *** Morloth [~bram@53542231.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:11:41 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:17:24 *** SDK [~s@ip219-90-209-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 11:17:29 <SDK> hi:) 11:17:46 <SDK> I just checked 6.0 but I dont get the vehicle replacer 11:17:56 <SDK> I want to replace my old truck with new ones 11:18:05 <SDK> but it can only convert to the older type:S not the same type 11:18:22 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 11:18:49 <peter1138> turn on autorenew 11:22:10 <SDK> where is that? 11:25:50 <SDK> ah found it:) 11:26:33 <SDK> lol that owns:) 11:35:27 <SDK> ty 11:35:28 *** SDK [~s@ip219-90-209-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit [] 11:39:44 <Celestar> lol 11:39:49 <Celestar> QIQO 11:39:59 <Gekz> Quick I quoted oblongs? 11:40:05 <Celestar> Quick In, Quick Out 11:40:21 <Gekz> le pwnis 11:40:28 *** Morloth [~bram@53542231.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:40:44 <Celestar> :S 11:40:44 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 11:40:58 <Celestar> I've Hewlett-Packard made weaponry, the ammo would cost more than the gun 11:41:01 <Celestar> s/I've/if 11:41:39 <Gekz> omg 11:41:41 <Gekz> qdb 11:41:44 <Gekz> you phjael 11:41:48 <Celestar> :P 11:41:53 <Celestar> but he's right (= 11:42:08 <peter1138> it would come half loaded though 11:42:18 <Gekz> lol 11:42:21 <Gekz> with blank 11:42:25 <Gekz> not blanks 11:42:34 <Celestar> would there be the option to refill used bullets with powder? 11:42:45 *** Morloth [~bram@53542231.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:42:58 <mrfrenzy> yes, but then every other cartridge would get stuck 11:59:00 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 12:03:16 <Slowpoke> http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/moltencore/ 12:03:38 * hylje notes Slowpoke really lives up to one's name 12:03:46 * keyweed looks to the channel name 12:04:09 <Slowpoke> :D 12:04:32 <Slowpoke> I thogt of waiting for tomorrow but Id have forgott untill then :( 12:04:34 <keyweed> nope, i haven't ventured into the evil realms of wow 12:22:24 *** neli [micha@82-171-80-171.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 12:25:21 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.49.21] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:27:33 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.49.21] has joined #openttd 12:45:05 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm247.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 12:52:35 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:52:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:56:51 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 12:56:51 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:59:33 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c122-107-243-224.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:59:47 <Ammler> Hi, has SVN statistics to see, how many checkouts/exports has done? 13:00:09 <peter1138> no 13:00:28 <glx> try cia site 13:00:47 <glx> hmm but not for that 13:01:19 <peter1138> possible if we used http (why don't we?) but i dunno if svn logs stuff like that by itself 13:02:19 <Ammler> hmm, we (grfpack) use http, I'll check that 13:04:04 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2DA69.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:09:08 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 13:22:01 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:22:19 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has joined #openttd 13:27:38 <Celestar> life sucks 13:27:47 <keyweed> it does 13:27:53 <keyweed> death too. 13:28:07 <Celestar> dunno. haven't been through yet 13:29:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12528 /branches/noai/src/ (ai/ai_threads.cpp thread.cpp thread.h): 13:29:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Change: rewrote most of the internal ThreadObject to make it a bit more readable 13:29:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Change: when a ThreadObject is created, the thread is really created, and not delayed until some sub-function is called 13:29:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Change: renamed AutoResetEvent to ThreadSemaphore, as that is what is really is.. AutoResetEvent didn't really give a clue what it was ;) 13:29:29 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:30:38 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-187-188.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008031114]] 13:31:20 <Gekz> Celestar: if it doesnt lead to sex its not worth doing 13:31:25 <Gekz> thats how I live my life 13:31:25 <Gekz> :/ 13:31:49 <Celestar> I think that's a good attitude. 13:31:54 <keyweed> i dissagree 13:31:55 <Celestar> does masturbation count as well? 13:32:05 <Gekz> thats a yellow-white area 13:32:21 <keyweed> anything that doesn't lead to better openttd isn't worth doing 13:32:36 *** lugo [lugo@p4FD5C6AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:33:35 * keyweed starts wondering why he's coding a reporting tool... 13:33:53 <Gekz> keyweed: why 13:34:03 <keyweed> it's doesn't improve openttd 13:34:06 <keyweed> *it 13:38:58 *** llugo [lugo@p4FD5C095.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:40:28 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You just lost the game] 13:40:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12529 /branches/noai/ (9 files in 3 dirs): [NoAI] -Change: split thread.cpp into 4 files, one for each OS 13:42:21 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.49.21] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42:23 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 13:43:37 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.49.21] has joined #openttd 13:45:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12530 /branches/noai/src/thread_win32.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix r12528: missing 'public' statement gives funny effects (tnx glx) 13:47:50 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.49.21] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:50:06 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.49.21] has joined #openttd 13:59:43 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:00:19 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 14:03:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r12531 /trunk/src/ (8 files): -Codechange: Rename some variables for consistency. 14:12:26 <yorick> http://www.google.com/patents?id=mx93AAAAEBAJ&dq=gaming+soundtrack <-- that might stop us from implementing an ingame mp3-player 14:12:41 <yorick> openttd can run on gaming consoles aswell 14:13:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:15:45 <peter1138> good ol' vague software patents 14:15:59 <yorick> from m$ 14:16:08 <mrfrenzy> http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=85534 (nonswedes might need to use babelfish ;) 14:16:24 <yorick> americans don't need openttd ^^ 14:18:41 <keyweed> they can't afford it 14:25:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://www.tagesschau.de/inland/zeitumstellung16.html <- this is so funny ;) [German] 14:31:49 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-136-232-74.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:32:16 <larsemil> mrfrenzy: aprilskÀmt 14:42:53 <Mirrakor> Is a mine or a wood(or something else) "reserved" if an opponent already build a truck station there? 14:43:07 <peter1138> no 14:44:43 <Mirrakor> hm.. that's strange, I build two truck stations directly next to a plastic-thingy but none of them produce plastic so my trucks keep being empty 14:46:21 <Dominik> some factories only produce something if they get another cargo delivered. e.g. to produce paper, the papermill needs wood. but i'm not familiar with the toyland industries 14:48:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r12532 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Cleanup: Replace two tables of magic values with already existing functions. 14:49:50 <Mirrakor> Eddi|zuHause3: it's an aprilfool isn't it? 14:50:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> you are a 'Blitzmerker' ;) 14:50:24 <Mirrakor> didn't pay attentation to that link before :P 14:50:47 <Mirrakor> Dominik: sure I got that principle - but it's a regular plastic field - it only provides plastic and doesn't accept anything (it works with other plastic fields on the same map..) 14:52:30 <peter1138> does your competitor have exclusive rights? 14:53:41 <Dominik> is it possible to buy exclusive rights for industries? i thought that only works for passengers 14:53:44 <larsemil> and does it produce anything? 14:55:19 <peter1138> i think it works for all cargo from anything within the town authority 14:55:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> there was something about only the 2 stations with the best rating getting cargo at all 14:55:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> and the AI gets some rating bonus 15:04:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r12533 /trunk/src/ai/default/default.cpp: -Cleanup: Remove some wizardry from default ai by using existings enums and helper functions. 15:07:24 <Mirrakor> it produces something yes (and no, it's not 100% transported), but I've to go now :/ 15:08:50 <mrfrenzy> larsemil: indeed :) 15:10:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> mrfrenzy: i'll stick to civ4, thank you :) 15:10:58 <Forked> mmm civ4 15:12:02 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-187-188.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 15:15:27 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2DA69.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:17:21 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499EEF0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:55:34 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-199-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:57:13 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:59:27 *** nicfer [~chatzilla@168.226.105.1] has joined #openttd 16:09:02 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:22:35 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499EEF0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 16:27:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: skidd13 * r12534 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt town.h town_cmd.cpp town_type.h): -Feature: Add a new type of town road layouts - random for each town 16:30:13 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A59AB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:30:17 <skidd13> evening folks 16:31:49 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:32:55 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A59AB.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [Ping timeout: resistance is futile.] 16:39:54 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 16:41:34 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:49:24 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@062249182162.customer.alfanett.no] has quit [Quit: edgepro: Why are you staring at my shoes? They're perfectly normal.] 16:58:34 *** MDGrein [~MDGrein@c-e43472d5.02-56-736b7610.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 17:05:38 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-29-175.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:06:36 *** anhedral is now known as dih 17:14:13 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:14:55 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@87.2.237.226] has joined #openttd 17:15:30 <dih> hello 17:15:34 <Wolf01> hello 17:16:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://s5.directupload.net/images/080127/vg7vptqu.jpg <- lmao :p 17:18:27 *** jez [centario@87-194-212-214.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:18:31 *** jez is now known as jez9999 17:18:56 <dih> oh no 17:19:11 <jez9999> dih, why don't you go and get a fecking life instead of scanning this channel for my presence 17:19:13 <jez9999> you're pathetic 17:19:24 <dih> i beg your pardon 17:19:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> [context] someone with very bad german asks the girl to show her "bÃŒrste" ("brush") [possibly misspelling of "brÃŒste" ("breast")] 17:20:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> so she's showing ;) 17:20:28 <dih> hehe 17:20:56 <Wolf01> Is the 0.6.0 real or an hoax? Because I want to post a new on my site 17:21:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes.# 17:21:21 <Wolf01> yes yes or yes no? 17:21:25 <glx> Wolf01: try it and you see 17:21:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r12535 /trunk/src/table/sprites.h: -Fix: A little typo and 4 omissions on bridge sprites. 17:22:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> [2008-04-01 08:36] <Eddi|zuHause3> it's not like this is totally out of the blue and -RC1 was unplayable and needed years of further development 17:22:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> [2008-04-01 08:36] <Eddi|zuHause3> unlike... let's say... a Lost 4x09 preair ;) 17:24:33 <Sionide> heh 17:24:37 <Sionide> "there is no humor in posting fake files, or pissed off downloaders" 17:24:43 <Sionide> http://www.eztv.it/index.php?forum=view_thread&tid=9851 17:24:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, i read it ;) 17:25:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's totally hilarious ;) 17:26:31 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-29-175.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:26:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> considering i knew that lost was at least 3 weeks away, i got a little suspicious when i noticed that file in the automatic queue, and actually read the comments ;) 17:30:53 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41673.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:30:56 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 17:31:03 <dih> B! 17:31:08 <dih> jarni 17:31:44 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:33:31 <hylje> gimme a B! gimme a J! gimme an A! gimme a R! gimme a N! gimme an I! LEGO BLOCKS! 17:34:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> errr... right... 17:34:23 <dih> hello hylje :-) 17:35:06 <hylje> hi dih 17:39:17 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:43:16 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 17:43:59 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:43:59 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:44:06 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:44:38 *** nicfer_ [~chatzilla@168.226.105.1] has joined #openttd 17:44:44 *** nicfer [~chatzilla@168.226.105.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:44:50 *** nicfer_ is now known as nicfer 17:46:04 *** MDGrein [~MDGrein@c-e43472d5.02-56-736b7610.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [] 17:47:58 *** Diadem [math@115pc224.sshunet.nl] has joined #openttd 17:48:49 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067014.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:49:33 <henkie> are NoAI and squirrel part of v0.6? 17:49:43 <dih> nope 17:49:53 <dih> but of the noai branch 17:49:58 <Patrick`> mmm, squirrels 17:50:03 <henkie> ah,ok 17:50:23 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 17:51:27 * dih roasts one 17:51:27 <dih> but i'll keep the tail ^^ 17:51:27 <dih> nice 'n fluffy 17:51:31 <hylje> furry. 17:52:06 <dih> that - yes 17:52:16 <Patrick`> yiff off 17:57:27 <dih> hylje: i like the rss bot :-) 17:57:27 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:58:01 <dih> or the rss plugin for the bot 17:59:08 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-29-175.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:00:26 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:04:20 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 18:08:18 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:11:16 *** caladan [~caladan@161-bem-18.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:12:35 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 18:15:25 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 18:16:25 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [] 18:19:47 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 18:20:02 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B65D35.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:22:35 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [] 18:25:38 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-29-175.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:26 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-143-217.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 18:47:49 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:50:31 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:55:23 *** sickie88 [~sickie@BSN-77-16-5.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has joined #openttd 18:58:57 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:58:57 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 19:02:01 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 19:03:16 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [] 19:15:04 <dih> yorick: nice try getting into that channel ^^ 19:17:07 <yorick> :( 19:17:42 <dih> hehe 19:17:44 <yorick> pure love from TB :) 19:17:45 <dih> so funny 19:19:17 <yorick> I can't be loved if I'm banned :( 19:20:23 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*yorick@*.adsl.wanadoo.nl] by peter1138 19:20:25 <peter1138> quite 19:20:55 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!*yorick@*.adsl.wanadoo.nl] by peter1138 19:21:23 * yorick feels hated 19:21:38 <yorick> quite hated* 19:22:07 <Noldo> go do some coding, the code loves you 19:22:44 <yorick> too late for coding now 19:23:12 <yorick> and the code is a direct child of the 1138-peter, who hates me quitely :) 19:24:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> just pretend the code is romeo and you... 19:24:52 <yorick> argh! 19:25:19 <yorick> peter1138 got a child, a boy! and I would be ... 19:25:36 <Digitalfox> peter1138 enginepool diff is now 85KB, damn the thing just grows and grows :p 19:25:44 <yorick> heh 19:25:47 <peter1138> Digitalfox, blame Rubidium ;) 19:25:56 <Digitalfox> i know =0 19:26:11 <Rubidium> peter1138: just commit it, then it'll be *much* smaller; as big as when you started thinking about making it to be exact ;) 19:26:17 <Prof_Frink> Oooh, there's been a release 19:26:20 <Prof_Frink> That means... 19:26:26 <Prof_Frink> peter1138! NewShiny! 19:31:01 <Noldo> were there other new things waiting for the release? 19:31:12 <yorick> yes 19:31:16 <yorick> *secret* 19:33:20 <Noldo> pah 19:33:48 <yorick> some blog.openttd.org post 19:36:12 <Dominik> *ding* OpenTTD DS alpha 6 has been released. 19:36:27 <yorick> don 19:36:28 <yorick> g 19:36:58 <dih> yorick: ban on openttd.noai too? 19:37:16 <yorick> eeh/ no? 19:37:26 <glx> you asked for it 19:37:35 <dih> LOL 19:38:06 <glx> [21:10:37] yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] vient de partir de #openttd.noai: TB: you don't ban me out of love 19:38:06 <glx> [21:30:03] yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] a rejoint #openttd.noai 19:38:06 <glx> [21:31:00] yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] vient de partir de #openttd.noai: not sure if my leave message got thru 19:38:06 <glx> [21:34:10] glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] a mis le mode +b *!*yorick@*.adsl.wanadoo.nl 19:38:37 <yorick> argh...it left out the part after the , 19:39:41 <yorick> but where exactly do you read "ban me, please?" <-- fictional!! I know you want it, but I don't ask this time ;) 19:40:27 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77A4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:40:31 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77A4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:41:23 <glx> yorick: well talking through leave messages is not a nice thing to do 19:42:30 <yorick> it wasn't my intention to get there the second time, but it gave me an error the first time, and appears to have left out the part after the comma 19:43:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... what exactly was that right now? 19:43:36 <yorick> openttd.noai 19:43:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> not you... 19:44:00 <glx> Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77A4A.dip.t-dialin.net] a quitté IRC : Remote host closed the connection 19:44:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> weird... 19:49:41 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2FB93.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:48 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D144.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:53 <fjb> Hello 19:53:17 <fjb> How can I set the version string when I'm compiling OpenTTD with Vsual C++ 2008? 19:53:39 <yorick> rev.cpp? 19:53:51 <glx> using svn? 19:53:53 <yorick> why are you compiling openttd with Vsual C++ 2008? 19:54:17 <fjb> Because that is the only compiler I got working under Windows XP. 19:54:30 <Digitalfox> yorick maybe becase he can ;) 19:54:40 <Bjarni> why are you using Windows XP? 19:54:46 <Digitalfox> Because he can 19:54:51 <yorick> because it came shipped with the PC? 19:55:01 <fjb> glx: I got the source via svn, but then modified it. Now it gives me rev0000. 19:55:02 <Digitalfox> Bjarni why do you use MAC? 19:55:20 <Bjarni> because it's a reliable OS and I like it 19:55:38 <glx> fjb: determineversion.vbs failed for you it seems 19:55:42 <Bjarni> and it comes with GCC so compiling is usually not an issue 19:55:54 <fjb> Bjarni: Because I want to provide a binary for the windows folks who can not use a compiler by their own. 19:55:56 <Digitalfox> Use Windows Bjarni you will feel beter =0 19:56:09 <yorick> fjb: what patch? 19:56:29 <Bjarni> Digitalfox: are you sure? 19:56:32 <fjb> yorick: YAPP 5.1 and passenger destinations. 19:56:43 <Bjarni> it lacks some really needed features 19:56:45 <yorick> I might compile it for you 19:56:50 <fjb> glx: What is the workaround? 19:56:51 <Bjarni> like POSIX 19:56:52 <ln> B! 19:57:03 <yorick> generate a nice diff file :) 19:57:19 <glx> fjb: first step would be to know why it failed 19:57:25 <yorick> but why do you want to set a revision string? 19:57:38 <yorick> should be auto-generated if using tortoisesvn 19:57:46 <Digitalfox> Bjarni ofcourse.. That is if you want to play something else besides openttd and use more than 1% of all applications available.. =0 19:57:50 <fjb> Usually I'm using gcc under FreeBSD. No problem there. But compiling under Windows is really strange. 19:58:11 <yorick> try GCC under windows then 19:58:32 <glx> fjb: what happen when you run the vbs "by hand"? 19:59:02 <fjb> glx: I moved the patched source from my BSD machine to my Windows machine. Maybe that is part of the problem? 19:59:15 <Bjarni> yorick: I did that.... it felt like an amputated feature compared to how it works in OSX and *nix 19:59:18 <glx> no, a patch is a patch 19:59:29 <fjb> glx: What vbs? Where? Why? How? 19:59:30 <glx> no matter where it comes from 19:59:43 <glx> projects/determineversion.vbs 19:59:46 <fjb> yorick: Tried and failed. 19:59:54 <yorick> failed, how? 20:00:16 <fjb> yorick: zlib etc failed. 20:00:26 <yorick> get it precompiled ^^ 20:00:40 <glx> zlib compiles fine for me 20:02:02 <fjb> glx: My gcc setup under Windows is far from perfect. So I took Visual C++ 2008 Express edition. 20:02:37 <glx> anyway what happens when you run the vbs? 20:02:38 <yorick> fjb: get bottd 20:04:02 <yorick> not to use the tool itself, but the enviroment it comes with 20:04:06 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 20:04:15 * peter1138 yawns 20:04:32 <glx> yes bottd is a nice tool to get a working msys/mingw 20:05:11 <fjb> I thought I had a working msys/mingw setup... 20:05:17 <glx> but I installed my msys/mingw in a way it is fully integrated in cmd 20:05:47 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [] 20:05:48 <yorick> I just use sh for that :) 20:05:56 <glx> I just do sh configure && make 20:06:01 <fjb> I started determineversion.vbs from the windows shell and it gives me no output. 20:06:30 <glx> check if it created a "correct" src/rev.cpp 20:07:58 <fjb> Noldo, it didn't touch rev.cpp 20:08:35 <Noldo> hm? 20:08:37 <glx> delete rev.cpp and ottdres.rc and retry 20:09:21 <yorick> "no"<tab>, "it didn't...? 20:09:55 <fjb> yorick: Oh, yes... 20:11:08 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F566BC.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:12:10 <glx> fjb: if it's still norev000 I'll need more info :) 20:12:33 <yorick> try to edit rev.cpp yourself 20:12:45 <glx> don't listen to yorick 20:12:49 <fjb> glx: It generated a new rev.cpp and ottdres.rc but still vith norev000 20:13:10 <glx> ok, what tool is used to get the source? 20:13:17 <yorick> that's also an option, maybe even a better one :/ 20:13:31 <fjb> glx: I never listen to yorick anyway. 20:13:42 <glx> yorick: editing a generated file is never a good idea 20:14:49 <fjb> I got the source with rapidsvn. 20:15:07 <glx> that may explain your problem :) 20:15:22 <fjb> That usually worked for me under FreeBSD. It has the correct version there. 20:15:27 <glx> the script can use tsvn, svn, hg or git 20:15:35 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:15:53 <fjb> No subversion client is installed on my Windows box. 20:16:23 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-363c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 20:16:28 <glx> ho you need one to get the revision 20:16:47 <Patrick`> mmm, git 20:17:03 <fjb> HMage, sounds reasonable. Which one does the script like best? 20:17:27 <glx> fjb: maybe we can adapt the script to work with rapidsvn 20:17:28 <fjb> Why git? Why does everybody always throw around the weord git? Because Linus uses it? 20:17:58 <glx> I don't like git (doesn't work well on windows), but hg is not bad 20:18:03 <fjb> glx: Rapidsvn is not installed on the Windows box. So I have to install one anyway. 20:18:20 <Rubidium> cause it's faster that hg and svn and because it use less diskspace than hg or svn 20:18:33 <yorick> git allows local commits 20:18:38 <glx> fjb: then just install http://subversion.tigris.org/ 20:18:55 <glx> or tortoise if you want a GUI 20:18:58 <yorick> comments at diffs, co makes a whole backup 20:19:26 <yorick> only "git commit" sounds a bit strange ^^ 20:19:39 <fjb> The command line client from tigris should do it if it runs stable under Windows. 20:19:55 <glx> svn cli works well 20:20:49 <yorick> tortoisesvn comes with some useless stuff, if I didn't have to install it, I would have used it 20:21:23 <yorick> because I would like to keep ottd stuff on a seperate drive, that might get disconnected sometimes 20:22:06 <yorick> and toirtoisesvn acts as a whole win explorer plugin, for what I've seen, and which means that it hates missing files :) 20:22:13 <glx> I don't use tortoise (bad memories from the time I tried it on my PII 233) 20:22:40 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: A whole bunch of text, but in the end, everyone has to quit. :)] 20:22:49 <glx> explorer was slowwwwww 20:26:02 <fjb> Ah, rev.cpp has the correct version now. :-) 20:27:28 <fjb> VC++ is really starnge. But it generates something at least. 20:35:30 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:37:26 *** MDGrein [~MDGrein@c-e43472d5.02-56-736b7610.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 20:41:59 <fjb> Running determineversion.vbs by hand results in the correct rev.cpp, but building the project in VC++ changes it back to norev000. 20:42:34 <glx> silly 20:42:40 <fjb> Yes. 20:42:53 <glx> you close MSVC before retrying? 20:43:02 <fjb> Noldo, should I? 20:43:10 <fjb> Noldo, should I? 20:43:17 <glx> %path% changed on svn install 20:43:29 <glx> but msvc maybe still use the old %path% 20:43:30 <fjb> Thank you. 20:43:41 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 20:50:53 <fjb> It worked! I'm having r12486M for Windows now. :-) 20:51:11 <glx> congrats :) 20:51:20 <fjb> Thanks. 20:51:57 <fjb> I guess I should post it on the wiki. 20:52:03 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-196-212.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:55:05 <fjb> I meant forum, not wiki. :-) 20:55:13 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-140-158.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:59:13 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-143-217.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:59:22 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 21:01:13 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:01:24 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-187-188.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:02:09 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fcd01.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 21:03:20 *** hjalte [~hjalte@port201.ds1-gjp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 21:03:45 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:04:33 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-189-222.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 21:09:45 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 21:12:03 <jez9999> gawd 21:12:11 <jez9999> just watched American Inventor for about 10 mins 21:12:14 <jez9999> that show is apalling 21:12:28 <jez9999> why do US TV producers think they have to f*ck everything up for US TV? 21:13:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12536 /trunk/src/ (core/alloc_func.hpp pathfind.cpp viewport.cpp): -Codechange: some stack allocations were too large for NDS, so use the SmallStackSafeStackAlloc wrapper. Allocate on the stack by default and on the heap for NDS (or other devices that have a very small stack). 21:14:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> allocate stack on the heap? that sounds weird... 21:14:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> i was under the impression most systems allocate stack from one end and heap from the other end till they clash 21:15:25 <Rubidium> NDS doesn't fit the 'most systems' I guess 21:16:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> exceptions justify the rule ;) 21:16:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> [that is probably a very bad translation] 21:16:26 <Dominik> if you're interested, here's a tidbit about nds memory: http://www.dev-scene.com/NDS/Tutorials_Day_2#Memory_Layout 21:16:34 <fjb> And stack is usually part of the heap that gets pointed to today. :-) 21:17:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> fjb: wtf are you talking about? 21:17:07 <Dominik> technically you could place the stack anywhere you like 21:17:37 <glx> Eddi|zuHause3: I'd use "confirm" 21:17:58 <fjb> Each proecess usualy has it's own stack. But the memory of the computer only has two ends. 21:18:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, yes, that might be more fitting 21:18:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> fjb: each application has its own address space 21:18:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> which has two ends each 21:19:22 <fjb> It has two ends. But each process has it's own stack. So you would need an end for every process. 21:20:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> fjb: translating virtual memory addresses to real memory locations is the job of either the processor or the operating system 21:20:07 <fjb> And ach address space is part of the whole memory. 21:20:27 <peter1138> not directly 21:22:51 <Dominik> Wolf01: are you around? 21:22:58 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-363c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:23:01 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause3: Embedded system are often missing the concept of virtual memory. 21:23:04 <Wolf01> yes 21:23:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> fjb: they will then also miss the concept of threads and processes 21:23:35 <Dominik> did the nds port work for you previously? 21:23:50 <Wolf01> yes, the version 5 worked 21:24:15 <peter1138> the real question is, why is the NDS' hardware so lame for something so modern? 21:24:16 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause3: No, today they are having processes without memory separation. 21:24:28 <peter1138> bunging 16 or 32MB ram in there wouldn't've hurt... 21:24:28 <Dominik> and did you overwrite all the old files from the last version? 21:24:39 <fjb> peter1138: Because it has to be cheap. :-) 21:24:46 <peter1138> ram is cheap 21:24:58 <Wolf01> no, I had to reinstall it from scratch 21:25:00 <Dominik> peter1138: because the nds is in fact only a pimped up version of the gameboy advance 21:25:13 <fjb> peter1138: Every cent counts. Think about millions of cent. 21:25:21 <Wolf01> my laptop's card reader destroyed the sd partition -.-''' 21:25:32 <Rubidium> fjb: programmers are also very expensive 21:25:51 <fjb> Rubidium: But you usually don't sell them in millions. :-) 21:26:19 <Wolf01> it can't read well the flash cards, so in the middle of a file copying it destroyed anything 21:27:01 <Dominik> i'm having that too all the time 21:27:15 <Wolf01> so I caught the ball and updated the supercard firmware too... 21:28:14 <Wolf01> from 1.81 to 1.85 21:28:30 <Dominik> hmm, maybe there's a connection with that update. but i can't even guess why 21:28:48 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:29:09 <Wolf01> may I suggest the automathic dldi patching.. seem they introduced it 21:29:45 <Dominik> oh did they just with that version? 21:29:51 <Wolf01> I don't know how it works, if it patches all the homebrews you want to run or only if you required it 21:30:16 <Wolf01> no, they introduced it with 1.84 if I'm not wrong 21:30:22 <Dominik> but it's still odd, because some data from the card is read, right? like the background image? 21:30:29 <Wolf01> yes 21:31:28 <Dominik> and i've had those bugs before. usually some memory access problems were the cause 21:32:20 <Wolf01> now it seems freezed at "sprite>reading indexed grf-file 'trgcr.grf'" 21:33:07 <Wolf01> I can only hide/show the console output with B 21:33:56 <Dominik> yes, that's always possible because it's done through interrupts 21:34:09 <Dominik> what did you do differently this time? 21:34:28 <Wolf01> nothing, only shut down the ds 21:34:46 <Dominik> could you try again with the older firmware please? 21:35:04 *** Gekz [~brendan@121.218.49.21] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:35:07 <Wolf01> mmh I don't know if is possible to revert the firmware 21:36:04 <Dominik> ok. probably it wouldn't help much anyway 21:36:58 <Wolf01> nice, my pc didn't like the SD, it rebooted 21:37:11 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:37:41 <Dominik> maybe the file was corrupted while you copied it over. try copying everything again 21:37:43 <Wolf01> I'll try with the non-patched version, just after a scandisk of the sd 21:38:15 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:39:04 <Dominik> if you're on linux, this is what i usually do: before i unplug the card, i unmount it, mount it again and unmount it a last time. dunno why but it helps minimizing the risk of corrupted data ^^ 21:41:05 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D144.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:41:13 <Wolf01> without patching it seem it works until the error I reported on the forum 21:42:44 <Dominik> that's odd. won't be something to easily fix. i'll have to get in touch with some nds gurus 21:43:19 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-136-232-74.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:44:57 <Dominik> thanks for the report, i'll get back to you when i need further information or testing. 21:47:56 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 21:48:01 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d042753.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:52:04 *** sunkan [as@sunkan.bsnet.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:53:05 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:55:09 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-178-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:55:43 *** dih is now known as anhedral 21:55:43 <Dominik> good night everyone 21:55:48 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-084-063-008-122.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:56:07 *** sunkan [as@sunkan.bsnet.se] has joined #openttd 22:00:20 *** Mark is now known as MarkAWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 22:00:53 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-149-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:01:25 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 22:02:35 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 22:10:51 <Wolf01> 'night 22:10:59 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@87.2.237.226] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:16:35 <Diadem> Is it possible to build signals so that trains will divide up between two tracks at a split? 22:17:11 <Diadem> I mean to set it up so that train1 goes right, train 2 left, train 3 right, trian 4 left, etc, etc 22:19:04 <Roujin> no, not like that 22:19:21 <SmatZ> if the signal is red, it should choose the second lane... 22:19:43 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-29-28.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:20:09 <Roujin> you could use some fancy design of the openttdcoop guys to archieve something like that... http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/User:Mark/VarTL 22:20:30 <Diadem> Yeah I was thinking something like that 22:20:43 <Roujin> but no boolean logic or something for signals... 22:22:07 <Roujin> there were patches though that addressed that.. i think some geek even made xor signals for constructing lots of fancy stuff ;) (that patch must be long outdated now) 22:22:35 <Diadem> wicked 22:23:00 <Roujin> and here's also something interesting: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=36648 22:23:10 <Roujin> that's for waypoints though, not for signals 22:25:01 <Diadem> fancy 22:26:11 <Patrick`> experiments were made into logic gates made from signals 22:26:14 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499EEF0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:26:14 <Patrick`> back in the day 22:26:30 <Patrick`> a NAND gate can be constructed, with some difficulty, without patching the game 22:26:36 <Patrick`> but it takes about 20 seconds to reset 22:27:02 <Diadem> that's a lot 22:27:05 <Patrick`> so even a 4-bit adder would fill a large map and take several hours to calculate 22:27:20 <Diadem> would be cool 22:27:31 <Diadem> Send ouit 100 trains, wait a bit, and read off the first 10 prime numbers :) 22:28:01 <mrfrenzy> and let's hope you don't get too many breakdowns ;) 22:31:21 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41673.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:32:03 <Patrick`> don't joke about that 22:32:12 <Patrick`> there's a wireworld computer that computes primes 22:32:41 *** sickie88 [~sickie@BSN-77-16-5.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:33:04 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2FB93.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33:12 <Patrick`> it takes about a day to work out the first 100 22:33:24 <Diadem> what is wireworld? 22:33:32 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B65D35.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33:45 <Patrick`> some cellular automata that's easy to make logic gates in 22:33:58 <Patrick`> and much less computationally intensive than conway's game of life 22:34:25 <Diadem> I once wrote an 8-bit multiplier (using decimal numbers!) using logic gates 22:34:31 <Diadem> took me a few weeks :) 22:34:39 <Patrick`> smooth 22:34:47 <Patrick`> 2-bit adder then I got bored 22:35:00 <Diadem> Back in the days when i studied computer science 22:35:25 <Patrick`> I never did it formally :P 22:45:44 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:55:42 *** Sacro` [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:56:19 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:32 <Roujin> please everyone cross fingers for me >< 23:00:45 <Roujin> compiling... 23:01:20 <Roujin> damn, didn't work at all x-( 23:02:07 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499EEF0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 23:03:30 *** Sacro` is now known as Sacro 23:03:34 <Ammler> glx: ? 23:03:43 <glx> hmm? 23:03:56 <Ammler> does openttd not support that chain thing with townnames? 23:04:09 <glx> chain thing? 23:05:51 <Ammler> combining different intermediate Action7 23:05:56 <Ammler> ah 23:06:02 <Ammler> not ActionF 23:07:53 *** hjalte [~hjalte@port201.ds1-gjp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:10:19 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 23:11:10 <Ammler> I saw that in canadian set, it has different code for Patch and Open... 23:17:50 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-189-222.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:22:11 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-140-158.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:25:39 * Sacro reads his Saturn V owners guide 23:26:40 * Sacro flicks some switches 23:27:33 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0F9E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:28:10 *** egladil [~egladil@goth-gbg-109-143-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:32:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF49.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:32:39 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:33:39 <Roujin> yessssssssssss 23:35:24 *** egladil [~egladil@goth-gbg-109-143-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #openttd 23:35:37 <Roujin> i love random finds that wonderfully fix your bug :D 23:40:58 *** Poopsmith [~Poopsmith@124-197-37-77.callplus.net.nz] has joined #openttd 23:41:47 <Belugas> cosmic rays :) 23:47:08 <SmatZ> bug? did anyone say 'bug'? 23:48:39 <Roujin> yes i did 23:48:47 *** Morloth [~bram@53542231.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:48:56 <SmatZ> did you fix it? 23:48:59 <Roujin> but i fixed it! mwahahaha i fixed it *grin* 23:49:00 <SmatZ> in OTTD? 23:49:12 <Roujin> wellllllllllllll... sort of 23:49:25 <Roujin> it's a bug that won't ever appear in vanilla OTTD 23:51:41 <Roujin> but if someone were to do something to the viewport in the game menu causing a partial redraw, it would cause a graphics glitch because of the openttd letters 23:51:52 *** Morloth [~bram@53542231.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 23:51:58 *** jez9999 [centario@87-194-212-214.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 23:56:16 * Roujin just updates a patch 500 revisions at once and hope nothing conflicts... 23:56:33 * Roujin was lucky oO 23:56:46 * Roujin checks if it compiles 23:59:27 * Roujin noticed that something broke :(