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00:03:51 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 00:04:35 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:04:59 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:06:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r13397 /trunk/src/newgrf_engine.cpp: -Fix: Do not crash when resolving vehicle sprite groups with zero sprites. 00:19:15 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:20:39 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:21:48 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499D726.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 00:43:16 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00ab91.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:48:14 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-101-243.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:53:29 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-148-44-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [] 00:55:54 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:57:42 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:03:23 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:08:00 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 01:08:03 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 01:12:04 *** Pikka is now known as Pikka|afk 01:26:40 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Night All.] 01:28:51 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:30:55 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:31:50 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 01:41:11 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:42:47 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:53:30 *** Pikka|afk is now known as Pikka 01:55:32 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-123-108.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 02:05:36 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:06:24 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 02:10:16 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Zzz] 02:21:02 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:21:37 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 02:24:22 *** Sacro` [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 02:26:07 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:26:16 *** Sacro` is now known as Sacro 02:33:52 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:34:24 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 02:53:12 <Sacro> ben_goodger: are you a mod for openttd graphics? 03:00:43 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet508.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:15:09 *** Dr_Link [~TMS@71-12-20-070.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #openttd 03:16:54 <Dr_Link> I have the PocketPC version of OpenTTD working, but I need to get scrolling working for the north and south portions of the screen for the edge scrolling plugin. I assume that's in openttd.cfg, but where is openttd.cfg? How do I change this? 03:17:19 <glx> we don't make this version 03:17:58 *** bpZero [~opera@watertownDHCP-94.216-254-228.iw.net] has joined #openttd 03:19:17 <Dr_Link> ... it appears to be a simple touchscreen port of OpenTTD. 03:19:26 <Dr_Link> how would I do this on the desktop version? 03:19:32 <Dr_Link> right clicking is not an option, obviously. 03:19:33 <bpZero> ah, what is? 03:19:41 <Dr_Link> the pocketpc version 03:19:51 <Dr_Link> or, the palm pilot version for those who prefer those. 03:20:04 <bpZero> where is this? 03:20:40 <bpZero> http://www.esoftinteractive.com/openttd.html ? 03:21:02 <Belugas> from what i've heard, it's not a 'simple' port... 03:21:41 <Dr_Link> bpZero, yes, that's where I got it from. 03:21:49 <Dr_Link> Belugas, what do you mean? 03:22:00 <Belugas> to answer your question, the openttd.cfg file should be on the same directory as the program itself, or on the My Document fodler, on a Windows installation 03:22:13 <Belugas> a simple port means there is not mocu required to do to port it 03:22:23 <Dr_Link> ah. 03:22:27 <Belugas> in this case, there has been (from memory) quite a few changes 03:22:30 <Dr_Link> well, I suspected some modification under the thood. 03:22:31 <Belugas> therfor... 03:22:33 <Dr_Link> *hood 03:22:37 <Belugas> indeed 03:22:37 <Dr_Link> in the backend 03:22:38 <Dr_Link> etc. 03:23:27 <Dr_Link> Well, Windows Mobile 6 by default doesn't show the extensions, but I see a file labeled "openttd" with no icon, just the default. I suspect this file. Ack, now I need to bluetooth into my device and change this around. 03:23:59 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Quit: ecke] 03:24:10 <glx> this setting is available in GUI I think 03:24:25 <bpZero> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr2suOBGuS0&feature=related 03:24:28 <Dr_Link> not when your resolution is 320 by 240 and you can't see the whole window 03:24:35 <Dr_Link> that's one major flaw. 03:25:35 <glx> yes that's a problem because the game is designed for 640*480 03:26:22 <glx> though many windows have reworked to make them usable on lower res, but patches settings is not one of them 03:26:37 <Dr_Link> yeah. 03:26:42 <Dr_Link> ah well, time to bluetooth. 03:26:53 <Dr_Link> not a problem, I like bluetooth, it's very fun to use for a nerd like me 03:27:22 <glx> and I need some sleep :) 03:27:27 <glx> good night 03:27:57 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:28:26 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 03:28:26 <Pikka> !logs 03:41:09 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm13.epsilon124.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 03:48:30 <Dr_Link> So, what in openttd.cfg would I change to allow verticle scrolling? 03:56:08 <Dr_Link> vertical, excuse me 04:38:39 *** TiberiusTeng [~Tiberius@sbt.idv.tw] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:38:39 *** Tiberius_ [~Tiberius@sbt.idv.tw] has joined #openttd 04:49:29 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm13.epsilon124.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:53:57 *** Tiberius_ is now known as TiberiusTeng 05:05:17 *** bpZero [~opera@watertownDHCP-94.216-254-228.iw.net] has left #openttd [] 05:09:16 *** bpZero [~opera@watertownDHCP-94.216-254-228.iw.net] has joined #openttd 05:14:08 *** shodan [~user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 05:21:24 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:42:44 *** bpZero [~opera@watertownDHCP-94.216-254-228.iw.net] has left #openttd [] 05:43:59 <Pikka> !svn 05:44:05 <Pikka> no? 05:51:54 <Touqen> None soap, RADIO! 05:51:56 <Touqen> No* 06:21:27 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 06:37:47 *** shodan [~user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 06:42:56 *** SirBob [~chatzilla@c122-107-227-146.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:44:20 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:52:17 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 07:02:30 <TiberiusTeng> I find it very challenging to record palette-animated sprites for redraw in OpenGL blitter :p 07:02:34 * TiberiusTeng keep thinking 07:12:48 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54D01.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:40:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@79.0.238.55] has joined #openttd 07:47:02 <Wolf01> hello 07:53:42 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 07:54:12 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 07:55:29 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [] 07:56:05 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 08:01:51 *** mdv [micha@88.159.210.43] has joined #openttd 08:02:11 *** neli is now known as Guest1745 08:02:11 *** mdv is now known as neli 08:04:26 *** LA [~purple@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 08:06:05 *** Zorn [zorn@e177238196.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:07:48 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 08:08:11 *** Guest1745 [micha@82-171-80-171.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:11:13 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 08:20:24 *** Farden [~jk3farden@ram94-7-82-232-189-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 08:22:38 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F3ECA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:39:37 * dih has a server side patch to mute clients :-D 08:39:47 <Pikka> hum 08:40:02 <Pikka> http://www.pikkarail.com/junk/ottdcrash.gif 08:40:05 <dih> just needs a little refining 08:40:27 <dih> so i can specify if all, private, team, or public are muted :-P 08:42:50 *** planetmaker|away is now known as planetmaker 08:46:11 <Ammler> Pikka: did you remove a grf on a running game? 08:46:56 <Pikka> nope Ammler 08:48:14 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 08:56:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F59B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:07:06 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 09:10:39 <Kiloman> I got that same error a bunch on my Mac 09:10:53 <Kiloman> seemed to go away if I turned off all the news 09:11:36 <Kiloman> I also occasionally saw news items pop up with nothing in them except a little label that said Undefined or something like that 09:15:08 <Kiloman> It would happen within a minute or two of playing, I'd be glad to grab a dump or something if I knew how 09:17:39 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:22:26 <Pikka> yeah, I saw one of those too Kiloman... a report with text in it 09:23:18 <Ailure> I seen the string "Shops and offices" coming up on newspaper if you make subsidaries really high 09:23:50 <Ailure> It's kind of amusing and noncensical, and I have a savegame where that still happens 09:24:01 <Ailure> wasn't a serious game 09:25:53 <hylje> what 09:26:32 <Ailure> If you manually set the subsider multiplier to a really high value (1000x) 09:26:55 <Ailure> the string "Shops and offices" appears with a small font in the newspaper. 09:26:59 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-148-44-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 09:27:10 <Ailure> instead of subsidary related announcments 09:29:26 <dih> lol 09:29:31 <dih> grep the lang files 09:29:34 <dih> find the string 09:29:40 <dih> grep the source for that sting 09:29:48 <dih> then you know what changes it 09:31:06 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E54C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:35:08 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 09:35:28 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 09:39:59 <Alberth> it may also be that an incorrect offset relative to some base-string is used, and "shops and offices" just happens to be at that offset 09:40:42 <Kiloman> yeah I would be on an overflow somewhere 09:40:45 <Kiloman> bet 09:40:52 <Ailure> probably 09:41:03 <Ailure> Either way, it dosen't come up in normal gameplay 09:41:28 <Kiloman> what's it take to get a dump file on crashes? 09:42:44 <Prof_Frink> Alberth: No, it's the new way of counting. "double, treble, quadruple, shops and offices" 09:42:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.194.193] has joined #openttd 09:44:42 <Alberth> Kiloman: ./configure --enable-debug ; make ; cd bin ; ./openttd ; <make it crash> 09:45:51 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.80.249] has quit [Quit: egladil] 09:45:58 <Alberth> oh, and you need to set ulimit (ulimit -c). Type 'ulimit -a' to show all settings 09:46:55 <Kiloman> are the nightlies built with debugging enabled or would I have to build my own? 09:47:27 <Kiloman> also, I saw crash.txt mentioned in a few places, what is the deal with that? 09:47:41 <Kiloman> obviously something separate from the core file 09:47:59 <Alberth> no idea, try it (set ulimit -c unlimited, and see what happens when it crashes) 09:48:18 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-237-169.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:48:39 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d000c78.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:48:47 <Alberth> don't know about crash.txt, where can I find one? 09:49:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.209.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:51:42 <Kiloman> maybe it's not relevant any more 09:51:46 <Kiloman> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/OpenTTD_0.4.6 09:52:48 <Kiloman> or maybe it's a windows thing, I dunno 09:54:11 <Alberth> Looks like a windows thingie, google also seems to point in that direction 10:06:08 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a71.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 10:06:27 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a71.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 10:10:22 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 10:10:37 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 10:30:01 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.44.207] has joined #openttd 10:37:28 <planetmaker> is there a way to add a patch setting and not break savegame compatibility? 10:38:18 <planetmaker> http://paste.openttd.org/14277 <-- If it matters: that's what I'd like to change. Restricting terraform to 1 tile 10:40:41 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a71.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 10:42:18 *** shodan [~user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 10:42:59 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 10:43:53 <Wolf01> planetmaker, yes, why not? if you don't save anything *new* on the map it should be ok, like copy&paste 10:44:46 <planetmaker> the problem I have is adding it to the usual settings struct changes the savgame compatibility 10:45:05 <planetmaker> it is not a client only patch, therefor needs network com 10:45:15 <Kiloman> just out of curiosity, why would you want to do that? slow people down in multiplayer? 10:45:37 <planetmaker> Kiloman: yes. avoid exessive tf, e.g. easy flattening to sealevel 10:45:59 <planetmaker> a scenario usually comes with a certain landscape for a reason 10:46:37 <planetmaker> it's not a huge slowdown though, IMO. Consider it a difficulty setting :) 10:50:30 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:56:31 *** Lev [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:06:38 <Wolf01> ehm... why not simply disable the level land button in mp? 11:07:13 <planetmaker> Wolf01: I don't want to completely disable terraform 11:07:24 <Wolf01> no, level land only! 11:07:34 <Wolf01> raise and lower should work 11:07:40 <planetmaker> Otherwise it gets really tricky to build tunnels 11:07:41 <Wolf01> but 1 tile 11:07:55 <planetmaker> Hm... might be an option. 11:08:28 <Wolf01> the only problem: roujin patch which allow to drag the raise and lower land tools 11:08:33 <planetmaker> but the lower or rise land tool allow cascading, if you e.g. increase the height of a mountain the whole side of the mountain 11:08:34 <planetmaker> is increased 11:09:26 <planetmaker> The point is: I like Roujins extensions, but they can be dangerous on multiplayer servers 11:09:57 *** Repentinus [~s.repenti@150.20.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 11:10:04 <Repentinus> HI 11:10:11 <planetmaker> ho 11:10:29 <Wolf01> all dragging tools, station too, should be disallowed on mp, you can build stations with the h/w size buttons 11:11:16 <Repentinus> Is there any optional functions than these listed on http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/AI:Introduction to give extra information when registrering your AI? 11:11:23 <planetmaker> even so: disabling that should be a patch setting, too :) 11:11:45 <Prof_Frink> Wolf01: *All* dragging tools? Even straight rails? 11:11:59 <planetmaker> It's indeed no problem to make the patch I mentioned above without any introduction of settings. 11:12:05 <SpComb> and require the user to count to ten after building each piece of track 11:12:36 <planetmaker> but I like it to be a bit user friendly and give an admin possibility to change it ingame via rcon 11:12:40 <Prof_Frink> SpComb: Or, with the -xkcd branch, answer a maths question 11:34:22 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a71.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 11:40:35 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 11:44:10 <Wolf01> Prof_Frink, yeah, back to lay down diagonal tracks with 12312312 clicks :P 11:52:30 *** nick [nick@cpc3-nthc5-0-0-cust580.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:52:32 <nick> hello 11:52:46 <nick> how can i force the server to restart with a scenario at the end of time 11:52:55 <nick> im using -g switch but it restarts with a random map 11:53:19 <nick> also, how can i modifty the tcl autopilot script to work, as now the config file is in a seperate dir to openttd 11:54:04 *** dlunch_ [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has joined #openttd 11:54:14 *** dlunch_ [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [] 11:58:09 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:58:24 <Repentinus> Is there any good example of AI? 11:58:36 <Repentinus> For understanding basics 12:03:58 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has joined #openttd 12:04:40 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d000c78.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:16:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F59B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:20:16 *** Lev [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:20:45 *** SirBob [~chatzilla@c122-107-227-146.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 12:21:19 *** Slowpoke_ [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-199-041.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:27:39 *** dlunch_ [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has joined #openttd 12:28:29 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-237-169.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:32:48 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:33:12 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 12:34:20 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:37:31 *** dlunch_ [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39:53 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-123-108.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:44:19 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has joined #openttd 12:48:52 *** LA [~purple@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 12:52:20 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-172-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:56:17 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-165-98-32.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 12:57:53 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-123-108.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:58:00 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 12:58:49 <TiberiusTeng> the stupidest thing I did today 12:58:55 <TiberiusTeng> linear-interpolating color indexes ... 13:07:57 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 13:08:21 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 13:08:21 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1770 13:08:21 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 13:14:58 *** Guest1770 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:23:31 *** Zorn [zorn@e177238196.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24:36 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 13:24:37 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1775 13:24:37 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 13:28:59 <nick> whats the best value to have autosave set at ? 13:29:07 <nick> for a dedicated server 13:31:34 *** Guest1775 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:34:48 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 13:34:48 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1777 13:34:49 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 13:37:58 <Sacro> nick: yes is a good option 13:38:23 *** SprudL [~ignorant@082-146-098-100.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be] has joined #openttd 13:39:33 *** ooo4tom [~Tom@92.2.192.175] has joined #openttd 13:40:35 *** Proof [~olpo0@a88-112-239-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:40:41 <Proof> hi 13:41:38 *** Guest1777 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:50:24 *** Repentinus [~s.repenti@150.20.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [] 13:50:46 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:50:49 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:54:08 <ooo4tom> hello 13:54:39 <SmatZ> hello 13:56:46 <SprudL> I have a complaint... ottd is addictive :) 13:59:13 <ooo4tom> why is this a complaint ? 13:59:39 <TiberiusTeng> http://sbt.idv.tw/080607-ottdgl.jpg 13:59:43 <ooo4tom> i /nick Tom0004 13:59:49 *** ooo4tom is now known as Tom004 13:59:50 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489C2C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:59:55 *** Tom004 is now known as Tom0004 14:00:04 <glx> TiberiusTeng: 404 14:00:09 <TiberiusTeng> http://sbt.idv.tw/temp/080607-ottdgl.jpg oops, this one. 14:00:26 <glx> pink is gone 14:01:19 <TiberiusTeng> yep, palette remap is done. 14:01:41 <TiberiusTeng> and palette animation is partly done ... I just don't have a good way to redraw only those animated sprites. 14:03:36 *** Tom0004 [~Tom@92.2.192.175] has left #openttd [] 14:04:36 <peter1138> does it include the nasty jpeg artefacts? :p 14:05:07 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489C13C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:05:20 <glx> indeed png would be more accurate 14:09:18 <TiberiusTeng> yep 14:09:19 <TiberiusTeng> wait a sec. 14:10:10 <TiberiusTeng> http://sbt.idv.tw/temp/080607-ottdgl.png 14:10:33 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:10:33 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1779 14:10:33 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 14:10:48 <TiberiusTeng> this->ResetPalette(); MarkWholeScreenDirty(); DrawDirtyBlocks(); 14:10:52 <Proof> I'm new to TTD, how long can you play it for? over 2000? 14:11:12 <TiberiusTeng> I know it's not healthy, but even though gfx layer didn't call DrawSprite()s for me 14:11:13 <glx> there's no limit Proof 14:12:10 <TiberiusTeng> and since I don't have a way to know how viewports moved, I can't track sprites for redraw either. that makes me headache ... 14:12:19 <TiberiusTeng> but at least it's really playable (and fast) now ;) 14:12:21 <Proof> nice 14:14:22 <Ailure> B[15:56] <SprudL> I have a complaint... ottd is addictive :) 14:14:22 <Ailure> [15:59] <ooo4tom> why is this a complaint ? 14:14:36 <Ailure> Sounds like we need to have openTTD anomymous 14:15:19 <nick> whats a good autosave setting for a dedicated multiplayer ? 14:16:48 *** Guest1779 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:18:07 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 14:18:51 <nick> does anyone know much about autopilot and could guide me ? 14:20:37 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:23:44 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:25:22 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 14:28:31 *** nick [nick@cpc3-nthc5-0-0-cust580.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 14:31:26 *** Mchl [~mchl@chello089076197233.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 14:31:32 <Mchl> hello 14:31:59 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:33:00 <SmatZ> hi 14:36:32 <dih> trallalla & tÃŒdeldÃŒ 14:37:53 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 14:41:49 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 14:42:29 *** TiberiusTeng [~Tiberius@sbt.idv.tw] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:42:44 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:44:46 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [] 14:45:00 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:45:21 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:05:55 *** TiberiusTeng [~Tiberius@sbt.idv.tw] has joined #openttd 15:14:11 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E9C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:14:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E9C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:14:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E9C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:31:28 *** nick [nick@cpc3-nthc5-0-0-cust580.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:31:30 <nick> hello 15:31:37 <nick> can anyone give me some help or advice with my dedicated server ? 15:34:20 <Noldo> it's somewhat hard to know without knowing the problem 15:35:03 <nick> i just want to know whats the best to set sync and autosave to ? 15:35:14 <nick> or if there is an example of a good config file for a dedicated server 15:37:49 <planetmaker> nick: the config is up to your taste. 16:02:45 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C1CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:02:49 <fjb> Hello 16:03:41 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13398 /branches/noai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AISign::GetOwner (on request by Finaldeath) 16:03:44 *** ooo4tom [~Tom@92.2.192.175] has joined #openttd 16:04:08 *** ooo4tom [~Tom@92.2.192.175] has left #openttd [] 16:05:11 *** Tom0004 [~Tom@92.2.192.175] has joined #openttd 16:05:15 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13399 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (ai_tile.cpp ai_tile.hpp ai_tile.hpp.sq): [NoAI] -Add: added AITile::IsWithinTownInfluence (on request by Finaldeath) 16:13:09 <fjb> What is the status of YAPP? I'm getting tired of patching... 16:15:00 <glx> still WIP AFAIK 16:15:26 *** SprudL [~ignorant@082-146-098-100.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:15:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: miham * r13400 /trunk/src/lang/ (korean.txt romanian.txt russian.txt): 16:15:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2008-06-07 18:14:28 16:15:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: korean - 8 fixed, 16 changed by leejaeuk5 (24) 16:15:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: romanian - 5 fixed, 185 changed by CrystyB (190) 16:15:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: russian - 1 changed by Smoky555 (1) 16:15:34 *** SprudL [~ignorant@082-146-099-176.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be] has joined #openttd 16:16:11 <fjb> Hm, I can't play without it anymore. 16:16:37 <nick> 16:16:39 <nick> nice 16:16:45 *** nick [nick@cpc3-nthc5-0-0-cust580.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 16:17:22 *** birdspider [~birdspide@chello062178009208.4.11.tuwien.teleweb.at] has joined #openttd 16:24:30 <Proof> what do you suggest, should I start with a scenario, if yes, wich? Or a normal game. I'm still a newbie 16:25:04 *** Tom0004 [~Tom@92.2.192.175] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:25:49 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:25:49 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1789 16:25:49 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 16:26:40 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9F408.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:27:50 <dih> Proof: how do you usually start games? 16:28:02 <dih> afaik there is a button: new game 16:28:18 <dih> read the wiki (wiki.openttd.org) 16:28:29 <dih> esp. the gamer manual 16:28:51 <dih> there is no 'how do i start a game' 16:29:08 <dih> if you have questions about specific settings, ask :-P 16:31:50 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:32:49 *** Guest1789 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:34:22 <Proof> I was just thinking what's best for beginners? 16:34:35 <Proof> suppose I'll jsut start a new game 16:34:52 *** Proof [~olpo0@a88-112-239-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #openttd [] 16:35:51 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008b5d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:53:29 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:53:29 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1790 16:53:30 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 16:53:41 <Sacro> @seen Bjarni 16:53:41 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 1 day, 21 hours, 37 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <Bjarni> Prof_Frink Prof_Frink Prof_Frink 16:54:42 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:54:50 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:58:28 *** Guest1790 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:16:29 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9F408.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32:23 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 17:32:23 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1793 17:32:23 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 17:39:13 *** Guest1793 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:44:25 *** planetmaker is now known as planetmaker|away 17:58:52 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 17:58:52 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1796 17:58:52 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 18:00:54 *** Guest1796 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:08:49 <dih> SmatZ: CongratZ 18:15:18 <Sacro> heh 18:15:23 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 18:21:10 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 18:22:08 *** TiberiusTeng [~Tiberius@sbt.idv.tw] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:22:27 *** TiberiusTeng [~Tiberius@sbt.idv.tw] has joined #openttd 18:23:42 *** planetmaker|away is now known as planetmaker 18:33:04 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 18:35:37 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 18:35:38 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1799 18:35:38 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 18:42:17 *** Guest1799 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:17 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E54C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:49:10 <ln> cowabunga 18:52:35 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:52:42 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-172-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 19:05:18 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499D834.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:07:56 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 19:07:56 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1805 19:07:56 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 19:10:43 *** Guest1805 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:14:33 *** jorisslob [~jorisslob@k11068.upc-k.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:14:50 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-54418bdb.lns1-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:22:55 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 19:27:55 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 19:27:55 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1807 19:27:55 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 19:33:37 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-183-68.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:34:51 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has joined #openttd 19:35:18 *** Guest1807 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:38:20 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has quit [] 19:41:30 <jorisslob> Is there a special channel for then NoAI build? 19:42:45 <planetmaker> no 19:42:52 <planetmaker> or not that I know 19:42:57 <Ammler> jorisslob: it is: .noai 19:43:13 <Ammler> but I dunno, if it is public 19:43:24 <Mchl> iti s 19:43:29 <Mchl> it is 19:43:36 <Mchl> #openttd.noai 19:43:47 <jorisslob> Thanks! 19:44:00 *** jorisslob [~jorisslob@k11068.upc-k.chello.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:46:02 *** Dr_Link [~TMS@71-12-20-070.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:46:27 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has joined #openttd 19:53:11 *** Lex [~lex@70.188-233-85.staticip.namesco.net] has joined #openttd 19:56:41 *** Sionide- [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 19:57:02 *** ob0t [andyf@dangermouse.pod4.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:57:08 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:57:18 *** ob0t [andyf@dangermouse.pod4.org] has joined #openttd 19:57:41 *** Sionide- is now known as Sionide 20:11:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E9C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16:57 *** egladil [~egladil@81-226-238-189-no61.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:20:31 *** gilbo [~cheesedon@80-41-242-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 20:20:48 <gilbo> hey 20:20:52 <gilbo> is this openttd? 20:21:37 <Sacro> #openttd :) 20:21:38 <planetmaker> what do you think, gilbo, #openttd stands for? 20:21:48 <gilbo> lol, I am new to mIRC 20:21:58 <gilbo> I just though I might be in limbo or something 20:21:58 <gilbo> lol 20:21:59 <Sacro> hey, planetmaker, what's with the extra commas? 20:22:27 <planetmaker> hu? That's how I learnt it at school :) 20:22:46 <planetmaker> maybe it's wrong in English, though 20:22:53 <gilbo> can't believe there are so many ttd fans 20:22:54 <gilbo> hehe 20:23:02 <TiberiusTeng> silverx xchat is better under windows IMHO 20:23:09 <TiberiusTeng> and yeah, world wide OTTD ! XD 20:23:48 * TiberiusTeng still hacking OpenGL ... now on FreeType 20:25:02 <hylje> TiberiusTeng: out of curiosity, are you painting ottd on a gl surface or actually doing stuff on a fine-grained way? 20:25:10 <hylje> in a fine-grained way* 20:25:28 <TiberiusTeng> it can't be fine-grained ;) 20:25:39 <TiberiusTeng> provided that ottd's upper structure not changed 20:25:51 <hylje> that distinction could be made 20:25:54 <TiberiusTeng> painting ottd on a gl surface, yes ... 20:26:25 <TiberiusTeng> all sprites as individual textures, basically a Blitter_GL::Draw() call draws a billboard with sprite texture on it 20:26:50 <TiberiusTeng> and using fragment shaders to do palette lookup, palette animation, alpha blending ... 20:27:03 <hylje> oooh, alpha blending! 20:27:56 <TiberiusTeng> so the most heavy part of blitting work has moved to video card, IMO ... 20:28:55 <TiberiusTeng> but provided that blitter won't know how sprite moves, how window moves etc, I can't track/optimize those redraw actions. 20:29:10 <TiberiusTeng> just blindly do what gfx.cpp tells me to do :p 20:30:15 <TiberiusTeng> but I think it really need some texture atlas work, since 10000s textures looks scary on gDEBugger ;) 20:31:41 *** Lex [~lex@70.188-233-85.staticip.namesco.net] has left #openttd [Leaving] 20:37:19 <TiberiusTeng> when you zoom all the way out and right-dragging, you'll feel a obvious delay 20:37:30 <TiberiusTeng> even under 8bpp-optimized blitter 20:37:49 <TiberiusTeng> unfortunately, it's not blitter's fault ... OpenGL do the same 20:38:24 <TiberiusTeng> (the good news is OpenGL blitter will do 32bpp with animation as fast as 8bpp-optimized ;) 20:42:57 <TiberiusTeng> start tracing code from ViewportDrawChk() and look what it do to the huge map, calling draw_tile_proc()'s, Z-sorting all vehicles/buildings ... 20:43:44 <TiberiusTeng> OpenGL blitter can't/won't cure these things, as long as we need other blitters 20:45:04 <frosch123> I guess, when zoomed out, spritesorting is a big task (O(n^2)), though you can hardly see what it sorts. 20:45:21 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-98-223-75-242.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:45:21 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1816 20:45:21 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 20:45:46 <Sacro> I can't get gilbo to download the list of servers from the masterserver, any ideas on how to debug? 20:45:57 <Sacro> using 0.6.1, installer , XP 20:46:32 <gilbo> I am on a lan, so getting internet access from another computer 20:46:40 <gilbo> but never had any problems with other games 20:46:50 <gilbo> tried deactivating my firewall with no effect 20:47:06 <planetmaker> there shouldn't be need for that normally. 20:47:14 <TiberiusTeng> I haven't dig into spritesorting part so I don't have a definitive answer ... 20:47:33 <TiberiusTeng> and my profiling tools isn't working correctly :< 20:47:40 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-98-223-75-242.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:47:40 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1817 20:47:41 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 20:48:06 <frosch123> TiberiusTeng: Just comment it out, it should not matter anyway when zoomed out :p 20:48:17 *** Guest1816 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:48:26 <TiberiusTeng> that isn't a healthy solution! :p 20:48:52 <TiberiusTeng> and we still need it to sort sprites while closeup 20:49:01 <gilbo> grr 20:49:49 <TiberiusTeng> in a sense, I'm making OTTD gfx subsystem using OpenGL as a dumb (but damn fast) bit-blitter 20:51:18 *** nick [nick@cpc3-nthc5-0-0-cust580.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:51:18 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 20:51:44 <nick> when a dedicated server gets to the end date and its starts a new game, will it restart the scenario thats being played if the -g switch is used to run the server 20:52:01 <TiberiusTeng> using the graphics card as a hardware blitter, via OpenGL, to be precise 20:52:25 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:53:04 <frosch123> using nvidia extensions I guess 20:53:44 <TiberiusTeng> actually no 20:54:01 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-98-223-75-242.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:54:01 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1818 20:54:02 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 20:54:23 *** Guest1817 [~Dale@c-98-223-75-242.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:55:57 *** Guest1818 [~Dale@c-98-223-75-242.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:56:06 <TiberiusTeng> let's see ... I used ARB_texture_non_power_of_two (lazy), ARB_fragment_program, ARB_multitexture 20:56:30 <peter1138> simple texture blitting doesn't need nvidia extensions :) 20:56:55 <nick> can anyone answer my quesiton? 20:56:55 <nick> when a dedicated server gets to the end date and its starts a new game, will it restart the scenario thats being played if the -g switch is used to run the server 20:57:35 <frosch123> TiberiusTeng: Aren't the usual interger texture nvidia extensions? 20:58:14 <TiberiusTeng> I think it became an ARB extension ;) 20:58:24 <TiberiusTeng> and it's easy solvable, I said I'm just being lazy 20:59:36 <TiberiusTeng> after I fixed the texture size thing, it'll run on many old cards (and my notebook, Intel 855GME) 21:00:07 *** Mchl [~mchl@chello089076197233.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: bye] 21:00:14 <TiberiusTeng> but doing color-remapping and palette animation will become very difficult (eh, just forget it) 21:01:25 <frosch123> palette animation is not important, but company colors are used by a lot :) 21:02:07 <gilbo> anybody got any suggestions, I can't get multiplayer to work 21:02:09 <gilbo> :( 21:03:16 <nick> whats wrong 21:03:18 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-75-242.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:44 <gilbo> when I click on find server nothing comes up on the list 21:03:48 <TiberiusTeng> yeah ... so you need a Radeon 9550 / Geforce 6100 / Intel 915G to 'enjoy' my opengl blitter, at least for now ;) 21:04:08 <gilbo> its not my firewall cause I disabled that and restarted the game 21:04:08 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:04:13 <planetmaker> gilbo: have you selected internet? 21:04:18 <gilbo> yep 21:04:20 <TiberiusTeng> texture size thing is easy, but rebuilding the texture with new palettes off card is very slow 21:05:17 <planetmaker> and you clicked the button "search servers"? 21:05:27 <planetmaker> @ports 21:05:27 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound) 21:05:38 <planetmaker> ^^you need those ports forwarded 21:05:47 <gilbo> 'find servers' 21:06:02 <planetmaker> find servers. yes (I don't use English :) ) 21:06:09 <gilbo> do I need to go do something to the other computer in my house that hosts the internet? 21:06:35 <Sacro> planetmaker: no you don't 21:06:37 <planetmaker> probably enable port forwarding there of the aforementioned ports 21:06:46 <Sacro> that won't help 21:06:46 <planetmaker> no? 21:06:50 <Sacro> nope 21:06:55 <Sacro> unless he's running a server 21:06:57 <Sacro> which he isn't 21:07:02 <planetmaker> hm. ok. 21:08:01 <gilbo> do you think the computer hosting the internet could be blocking these ports? 21:08:13 <gilbo> causing this computer not to get send the information? 21:09:01 <planetmaker> dunno. never had that problem. Improbable, I'd say 21:09:08 <planetmaker> err. unlikely 21:11:07 <gilbo> should I try a different version of openttd? 21:11:12 <gilbo> what version are you all using? 21:11:56 <Sacro> heh 21:12:00 <Sacro> i have lots of versions 21:13:10 <planetmaker> gilbo: I'm playing on #openttdcoop and use those versions, currently the nightly r13374. 21:13:12 <planetmaker> but I've others as well, currently hacking r13400 21:13:51 <gilbo> I'm trying the latest version from openttd.org 21:13:52 <gilbo> 6.1 21:14:02 <gilbo> I'll maybe try reinstalling with 6.0 21:14:33 <planetmaker> that won't be the problem IMO. 21:14:56 <gilbo> maybe a restart? 21:14:59 <gilbo> lol 21:17:16 <gilbo> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37652&hilit=finding+servers 21:17:23 <gilbo> could this be my solution? 21:17:49 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Quit: Operator, give me an exit] 21:18:53 <Sacro> gilbo: i doubt it 21:20:28 <gilbo> me gonna do a reset, try once more and then give up 21:20:29 <gilbo> lol 21:20:44 *** gousty [gousty@silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #openttd 21:20:54 <gilbo> I might try tomorrow on the other computer and see if it makes any difference 21:21:07 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B789A5.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 21:21:50 *** gilbo [~cheesedon@80-41-242-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 21:23:22 *** planetmaker is now known as planetmaker|away 21:25:35 * TiberiusTeng use depth buffer as color-index buffer, thanks michi_cc ;) 21:30:38 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:30:42 *** Slowpoke_ [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-199-041.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:37:59 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54D01.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:39:37 *** gilbo [~cheesedon@80-41-242-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 21:39:55 <gilbo> anybody know a working host I can try joining? 21:41:04 <glx> there are many on servers.openttd.org 21:42:09 <gilbo> tried some of them but looks like they aren't working for me 21:42:21 <gilbo> they are all comign up 'server offline' 21:44:07 <glx> then something is blocking in the way 21:44:33 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E9C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:44:41 <glx> querying servers is done via UDP 21:44:51 <Wolf01> 'night 21:44:55 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@79.0.238.55] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:50:06 <gilbo> I have found the problem!! 21:50:26 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13401 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_types.hpp: [NoAI] -Fix: note that Money in AIs is always represented in Pounds (requested by Finaldeath) 21:50:27 <gilbo> if I unload internet shield on both computers, it works 21:50:54 <gilbo> looks like the internet shield is causing the problem 21:51:01 <gilbo> how do I configure it now 21:53:56 <gilbo> anybody had experience with the settings of f-secure for openttd? 21:55:17 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13402 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_marine.hpp: [NoAI] -Fix: note that WaterDepots are 1x2 in size (which might suprise people) 21:57:20 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008b5d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59:01 *** gilbo [~cheesedon@80-41-242-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 22:09:44 <nick> when a game restarts, do it restart with the scenario loaded or a random map 22:09:49 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-172-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 22:12:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.194.193] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:12:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.194.193] has joined #openttd 22:14:00 <nick> sacro: when a multiplayer game restarts, do it restart with the scenario loaded or a random map 22:14:06 <nick> *does 22:18:04 *** birdspider [~birdspide@chello062178009208.4.11.tuwien.teleweb.at] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:23:29 <Sacro> nick: depends on the server settings 22:25:48 <nick> how do i set it to restart and load a scenario when it reaches the end date ? 22:27:09 <Sacro> i dunno :\ 22:27:15 <Sacro> i don't run a server 22:27:27 <nick> :( 22:28:30 *** gilbo [~cheesedon@80-41-242-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 22:28:52 <gilbo> how do you communicate with the players in opentd multiplayer? 22:30:06 <Sacro> press t to talk 22:30:09 <Sacro> or use skype 22:30:12 <Sacro> or shout loudly out the window 22:30:15 <Sacro> or write them a letter 22:30:25 <nick> racing pigeon 22:30:53 <gilbo> lol 22:31:02 <gilbo> I am now in, wooo 22:31:04 *** Farden [~jk3farden@ram94-7-82-232-189-236.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 22:31:09 <gilbo> damn internet firewall 22:38:13 <glx> just press enter 22:40:22 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 22:40:23 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1832 22:40:23 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 22:41:32 *** Guest1832 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:44:44 *** gilbo [~cheesedon@80-41-242-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 22:51:25 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 22:51:47 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F3ECA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 22:55:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E9C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57:25 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13403 /branches/noai/ (7 files in 3 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: wrapper to read the game settings directly without *any* promises on the results being stable in the future when OpenTTD changes the semantics. 23:03:44 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B789A5.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:05:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13404 /branches/noai/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Change [API CHANGE]: AITile::IsBuildable no longer returns 'true' on road, but only on a halve piece of road (as that is auto-removed). This should make this function return less 'true', and more sane results :) 23:06:49 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13405 /branches/noai/projects/ (openttd_vs80.vcproj openttd_vs90.vcproj): [NoAI] -Fix (r13403): forgot project files 23:08:54 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13406 /branches/noai/ (12 files in 2 dirs): 23:08:54 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Change [API CHANGE]: renamed CompanyIndex to CompanyID and AICompany::ResolveCompanyIndex() to AICompany::ResolveCompanyID(), to be more consistant with the rest of the API 23:08:54 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Change [API CHANGE]: INVALID_COMPANY now has value -1, to be more consistant with the rest of the API 23:09:23 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 23:13:07 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:13:10 *** nick [nick@cpc3-nthc5-0-0-cust580.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 23:22:05 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:30:27 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:30:54 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13407 /branches/noai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AICompany::IsMine() to ease up owner-checks (no, not the ones to cash in money) 23:34:28 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-54418bdb.lns1-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:39:18 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:39:18 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1835 23:39:18 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 23:40:44 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499D834.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 23:43:41 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499D834.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:44:09 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499D834.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:44:12 *** Guest1835 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:54:20 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-98-223-75-242.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:54:20 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1837 23:54:20 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 23:54:45 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 23:56:36 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B82247.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:58:17 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B81264.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:58:48 *** Guest1837 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]