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00:01:17 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:10:37 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B8366C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:12:29 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B8318F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 00:17:02 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18:45 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 00:19:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15462 /trunk/src/ai/api/ (ai_controller.cpp ai_controller.hpp ai_controller.hpp.sq): 00:19:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Change [NoAI]: Make AIController::GetTick() and AIController::GetSetting() static functions. 00:19:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix (r15460): ai_controller.hpp.sq was forgotten. 00:20:14 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:26:07 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:27:36 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 00:32:50 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:38:16 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 00:51:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B523.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:52:50 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 00:53:41 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-10-28-138.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:59:16 *** TinoDid [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 00:59:16 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:08:52 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 01:08:52 *** TinoDid [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:42 *** Quaver [spirit@azrael.silverfang.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:24:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15463 /trunk/src/ai/ai_info.cpp: -Change [API CHANGE]: Replace AIInfo::CanLoadFromVersion(version) with AIInfo::MinVersionToLoad() which should return a single integer, the minimum version the AI is able to load data from. 01:34:47 <Yexo> planetmaker: i am trying to use station_build_gui_r15142 and It dosnt seem to want to work all the things are red :( any ideas <- Do you still think Alain will succeed? 01:35:59 *** goodger_ is now known as goodger 01:41:07 <Eddi|zuHause> am i right that with "red" he means the "modified" icon of tortoise? 01:41:28 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93.81.213.112] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:41:50 <Aali> nah its tortoisemerge 01:42:27 <Aali> and red doesn't even have to mean its a conflict, it just means the file wasn't the exact one expected 01:42:44 <Rubidium> rtfm I'd said 01:43:29 * Yexo wonders if he already tried to compile clean trunk 01:45:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15464 /trunk/src/ai/ (ai_info.cpp ai_info.hpp ai_scanner.cpp): -Codechange [NoAI]: Call all info.nut functions exactly once and only during initialization. 01:45:17 <Aali> why would you use SVN for a patch pack anyway? it doesn't even have a patch management system 01:45:46 <Yexo> I use svn + quilt for a patch I'm making, works ok 01:46:59 *** zachary [zachary@zachary.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:47:55 <Aali> yeah, but then quilt is doing the magic, not SVN 01:48:04 <Yexo> true :) 01:48:10 <Aali> well, no point in us discussing it here, he won't see it :P 01:48:12 <Yexo> and it requires some manual work 01:49:03 <Rubidium> making a patch pack based on primarily ancient patches... not the thing a novice should start with 01:50:06 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.132.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:50:24 <Eddi|zuHause> wait, are you trying to say that there is no point in talking about people behind their back? 01:51:51 * Rubidium wonders what changes he can make to make Alain's work even more miserable ;) 01:51:54 <Aali> Eddi|zuHause: nah it's usually great fun, but I'm going to bed 01:52:21 *** zachary [zachary@zachary.user.oftc.net] has left #openttd [] 01:52:23 <Eddi|zuHause> wasted effort, i think, Rubidium ;) 01:52:43 <Rubidium> did a fair job lately already ;) 01:53:31 <Eddi|zuHause> save that for people who could truely appreciate it ;p 01:53:45 <Rubidium> like yorick? 01:56:05 <fjb> Btw where is yorrick? Did you ban him? 01:56:33 <Rubidium> my IRC client does ignore him, which is enough for me 01:57:54 <fjb> My doesn't, but I didn't notice him the last days. Maybe my mental filter ignores him by now. 01:58:52 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.132.255] has joined #openttd 02:00:35 <fjb> A friend tried to talk me into twitter today. But I see no sense in it and their privacy policy ist scary. 02:07:27 <Rubidium> is twitter google? 02:09:23 <goodger> Rubidium: no 02:10:46 <fjb> No, but they don't earn money with the twitter service. And they are a commercial company, no sponsored project. 02:12:06 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r15465 /trunk/src/ai/ (ai_info.cpp ai_info.hpp): -Codechange: constify most of AIInfo/AIFileInfo methods, move definition of very simple getters to header file 02:24:51 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485C006.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:28:57 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C267.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:30:41 <De_Ghosty> holy 02:30:43 <De_Ghosty> shitz 02:30:48 <De_Ghosty> http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=021265&cid=495.342 02:32:52 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:33:07 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485C006.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:34:09 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485C006.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:34:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:34:20 *** jpm_ [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has joined #openttd 02:34:20 *** jpm [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:34:30 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 02:43:05 *** worldemar [~world@213.178.40.129] has quit [Quit: An exit status of zero indicates success, and a nonzero value indicates failure.] 02:51:14 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:51:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:51:50 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C006.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:52:26 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C006.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:08:26 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:13 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:19:01 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.132.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:26:32 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.132.255] has joined #openttd 03:28:45 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 03:36:12 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:38:31 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:40:13 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Quit: Quit] 03:42:30 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 04:08:50 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 04:24:45 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1140 04:24:47 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 04:26:54 *** Guest1140 [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:35:41 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 04:35:41 *** [gone]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:35:44 *** Combuster is now known as [gone]buster 04:35:45 *** Mist [mist@106.84-234-138.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 04:49:04 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.96.253] has joined #openttd 05:22:32 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C006.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:27:09 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.96.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:15:01 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:22:22 *** foru [~foru@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 07:33:49 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:39:42 *** [gone]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:39:42 *** Combuster is now known as [gone]buster 08:04:40 *** kingj [~KingJ@78.33.77.139] has joined #openttd 08:07:55 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 08:08:00 *** M4rk is now known as Mark_ 08:10:20 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 08:14:52 *** [gone]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:14:59 *** [gone]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:20:28 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 08:21:01 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad34862.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:21:55 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggstry 08:21:57 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggs-work 08:33:09 *** kingj [~KingJ@78.33.77.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:34:22 *** Flow [~Freak@tmo-101-140.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #openttd 08:35:13 <Flow> hi, hmm what i found: on vista - there is a specialfolder "Saved Games" - but openttd doesnt use it - it writes savegames and co into my documents - why don't you use FOLDERID_SavedGames to get that path? 08:35:30 <Flow> (for shgetfolderpath) 08:36:19 <dihedral> perhaps because vista was released way after OpenTTD had support for windows 08:36:36 <dihedral> and in those days that folder did not exist 08:36:53 <dihedral> + you are the first vista user in here who even mentions that folder 08:36:54 <dihedral> now 08:37:10 <Flow> hehe okay, better late then never ;) 08:37:30 <dihedral> if that folder were standard, and all vista users playing openttd never even knew that folder existed, we would have a bunch of support time just because they cannot find savegames, config, grf files ...... 08:38:06 <dihedral> and no - that would not be solved by adding it to the readme file 08:38:14 <dihedral> as most people dont even look into that file 08:38:26 <planetmaker> good morning #openttd 08:38:27 <dihedral> else they'd know where to find their savegames, grfs, config file, etc. 08:38:27 <Flow> okay, but that folder is shown in your user profile directly, so you dont have to search more than for "documents" 08:38:31 <dihedral> good morning planetmaker 08:38:44 <planetmaker> hey dihedral :) 08:38:54 <dihedral> and now i have to catch a bus to head to work 08:39:00 <Flow> you could create a link to that dir then - for those who are not able to read a readme ;) 08:39:23 <dihedral> none of them default "users" are able to do anything 08:39:49 <dihedral> heck they even have probs with finding the files on their "Transport Tycoon Deluxe CD-ROM" 08:39:57 <dihedral> :-P 08:40:00 <dihedral> laters 08:40:00 <planetmaker> hehe. 08:40:30 <Flow> yes sure, but it would be a good thing to clean up those directory-structures, so I told you that there is a special folder for that kind of stuff ;) 08:40:45 <Flow> you dont have to do that - I only asked myself ;) 08:41:13 <planetmaker> actually.... not that opengfx exists, it would be nice, if OpenTTD could get it from bananas, if it doesn't find ANY basegrf (e.g. after a fresh, new install). Currently it just tells you to get tr...grf and sample.cat 08:41:40 <Flow> most people dont know about special folders at all, they put all there documents directly to C:\ and wonder why they dont find anything ;) 08:41:52 <planetmaker> true indeed 08:43:28 <Flow> for "newbie"-users you could create an installer like "please enter your ttd-cd and press Continue" XD 08:44:02 <planetmaker> I think there exists a MSI installer. 08:44:14 <planetmaker> Not sure about the TTD-CD part, though 08:45:53 <Flow> no - i thought of it in the "oh no sample.cat - please enter cd that I can copy it for you..."-part of the game ;) 08:47:22 <planetmaker> yes, I understood that :) I'm just not sure what the existing installer actually *does* 08:47:41 <planetmaker> (I don't run ottd on windows) 08:48:37 <Flow> yea okay ;) i only have it on windows - my girlfriend only has vista on her laptop ;) 08:49:17 <Flow> hmm O.o "TRGIR.GRF" is missing or corrupt - but if i press enter it works? and the file surely exists? I installed ttd 2mins ago 08:50:26 <planetmaker> well... you may find errors later. Better copy it from your TTD CD :) 08:50:37 <planetmaker> if they all miss, ottd won't start 08:51:22 <Flow> hmm i recopied it - same thing? 08:53:17 <planetmaker> copied to the data folder? 08:53:28 <planetmaker> all of them? 08:53:43 <Flow> yes 08:53:59 <Flow> thats the only file he complains about, but it exists, 324kb 08:54:26 <planetmaker> maybe your original is corrupt 08:54:44 <planetmaker> or you have one in the local folder and one in the global and it finds the corrupt first 08:55:17 <Flow> aahh lol -.- i had my "ttd and ttdpatch-package" on my usb stick ;) so the trgir was patched 08:55:23 <Flow> damn ... im so stupid XD 08:55:37 <planetmaker> patched? For what does it need patching? 08:56:48 <Flow> don't know, but it changes some bytes in there 08:57:00 *** Roest [~schurade@p54B9D44B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:57:11 <Roest> morning 08:58:20 <Roest> is anyone here compiling ottd on windows? 08:59:33 <Flow> no sorry, no compiler here on that laptop 09:04:13 <Flow> hmm another suggestion: if I build a station near a coalmine or similar, it creates a "townname's mine" - but near a powerplant it names it "townsname west/east/north..." why not "townsname's powerplant"? 09:05:13 <FauxFaux> 'cos stations aren't called that in England. ¬_¬ 09:05:27 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 09:06:06 <Flow> FauxFaux: ;) 09:09:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B4EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:10:11 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:10:21 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has joined #openttd 09:20:28 <dihedral> Flow, "is missing or corrupt" <- openttd has the checksum of the files, if your files checksum do not match what OpenTTD expects that is the message you get 09:20:39 *** Roest1 [~schurade@p54B9E257.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:20:58 *** Roest is now known as Guest1162 09:20:58 *** Roest1 is now known as Roest 09:21:10 <dihedral> Roest, you could ask Alain - he is (wanting to) compile on windows 09:21:16 <Roest> :) 09:21:26 <dihedral> and hello 09:21:28 <Roest> nah problem solved already 09:21:47 <Roest> i'll ask alain when i need to patch it 09:21:48 <dihedral> planetmaker, did you pick up on the messages that duck left? 09:22:05 <planetmaker> uh... no? 09:22:13 <dihedral> hihi - was funny 09:22:22 <dihedral> like "i can change my ip" 09:22:57 * Forked can too 09:23:01 <Forked> why would one want to though? 09:23:12 <planetmaker> dihedral: so... did he leave your channel, too? :D 09:23:22 <dihedral> yep 09:23:33 <planetmaker> Forked: in order to circumvent the bans posed on him 09:23:35 <dihedral> did not even have to do anything 09:23:47 <dihedral> he is still in #openttd.ap though 09:23:57 <planetmaker> he :P 09:24:02 <Forked> trick is not to get banned in the first place 09:24:20 <dihedral> Forked, he sees himself as a oh-so-wonderful FPS game player 09:24:21 <planetmaker> Forked: indeed. But he really made an effort to get there quickly 09:24:38 <dihedral> which gives him the right (at least in his opinion) to have bad attitude 09:25:08 <Forked> if I changed "my" IP my gf would give me a beating :\ she has had this IP for.. uh.. some years now 09:25:26 <planetmaker> he :) 09:25:42 <planetmaker> I guess I have another every 24h... 09:25:45 <Forked> ISP has static IPs for DSL customers, but since I work here.. :p 09:25:48 <planetmaker> well. Not with this computer, but... 09:26:15 <planetmaker> ... I'm still happy I got x.y.z.42 here :) 09:26:46 *** Guest1162 [~schurade@p54B9D44B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:26:47 <Forked> I get to play with dns entries for the IP :) great fun 09:27:03 <planetmaker> the IT person was actually quite surprised to see it still free when I came and asked for an IP for my computer :) 09:28:17 <Forked> sorta geeky request :) 09:29:19 <Roest> it's all geeks here 09:29:25 * Forked plans on a day with cargodest and IS tomorrow 09:30:30 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-10-28-138.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 09:31:22 * dihedral gets a new ip every night 09:31:26 <dihedral> sucks big time 09:31:48 <planetmaker> well... there are worse things :) 09:32:18 <dihedral> there are? 09:32:22 <Roest> i don't care about the new ip, the 24h disconnect sucks more 09:33:15 <planetmaker> well. At 4:30 am I'm usually asleep as are my computers at home. 09:33:18 <dihedral> Roest, yes 09:33:28 <dihedral> planetmaker, usually 09:33:36 <dihedral> but there are exceptions to prove the rule 09:33:36 <Ammler> dihedral: privacy 09:33:37 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:33:49 <planetmaker> well, yeah. My WiFi is anyway disabled between 1 and 7am. 09:34:01 <Roest> i wish i could set my router to do it at a given time 09:34:02 <planetmaker> dihedral: there're always exceptions 09:34:09 <planetmaker> Roest: I can :) 09:34:43 <Roest> anyway pm i'm turning oyu in, microsoft offered 250k $ for hints on the author of the conficker worm 09:34:52 *** Flow [~Freak@tmo-101-140.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving http://www.siedler25.org] 09:35:16 <planetmaker> :P go right ahead. I'm not seeing the connection, but well, I hope you tell me :) 09:35:26 <Roest> don't deny it 09:35:52 <Roest> you just have to play along till i get the money 09:36:06 <planetmaker> go to #hell and ask the guys there ;) There we can talk about it :P 09:36:28 <planetmaker> Or... I take advance money, sufficient in order to buy an island... 09:36:36 <Roest> interesting there are 3 guy in #hell 09:36:38 <planetmaker> but I guess... 250k is not sufficient :) 09:36:39 <Roest> guys 09:36:40 <planetmaker> yep :P 09:36:58 <planetmaker> it's even a registered channel afaik 09:37:26 <Roest> [10:36] * Topic is 'omg' 09:37:37 <planetmaker> hehe, yes :) 09:37:43 <dihedral> what about #heaven 09:37:49 <dihedral> oh - we are already there :-P 09:39:06 <Roest> anyway guys, stop distracting micheal blunck with translations and other stuff, he should only work on the next version of the db set 09:39:24 <dihedral> :-P 09:39:35 <dihedral> we dont destract him - he does that all by himself 09:39:40 <planetmaker> and new stations and new ships and new houses and... probably I missed at least two projects he talks about ;) 09:40:21 <planetmaker> he should upload it to bananas :P 09:45:38 <dihedral> and complete opengfx 09:46:14 <planetmaker> that's not his business :P 09:46:45 <dihedral> :-) 10:08:41 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 10:09:22 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn12-192.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:12:20 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad923c2.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 10:18:28 <Brianetta> OpenGFX? Blunck works on that? 10:19:01 <dihedral> no 10:19:08 <dihedral> hello Brianetta 10:19:09 <Brianetta> I was going to say 10:19:16 <Brianetta> I'd be surprised, he despises OpenTTD 10:19:25 <Timitry> I hope Zephyris finds time to finish OpenGFX 10:19:36 <Timitry> FooBar is now unfortunately rather workin on FIRS 10:19:56 <Ammler> only some houses and engines for monolev 10:20:00 <Timitry> (which might get fantastic, but i'd rather see OpenGFX finished first) ;-) 10:20:06 <dihedral> Timitry, i am sure if you do some pixel drawings Zephyris would code it for you ;-) 10:20:12 <Timitry> hehe 10:21:32 <Timitry> I rather try learning C++ in the spare free time that i have :) 10:22:52 <dihedral> Alain can help you there - he's going through the same issues 10:23:17 <Timitry> The guy with the patchpack? :D 10:23:51 <dihedral> no 10:23:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.184.202] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:23:57 <Timitry> I'll rather start with small projects ;-) 10:23:58 <dihedral> he does not have one yet :-P 10:24:07 <dihedral> like pixel drawing 10:24:22 <planetmaker> [11:23] <Timitry> I'll rather start with small projects ;-) <-- sounds sensible :) 10:24:38 <planetmaker> though... my motivation was kind of the same back then :P 10:24:45 <planetmaker> but starting small is always good. 10:24:54 <dihedral> wwottdgd 10:24:55 <dihedral> :-D 10:24:59 <planetmaker> :) 10:24:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.207.77] has joined #openttd 10:25:05 <planetmaker> /2 ;) 10:25:11 * dihedral needs some coders and grf authors 10:25:21 <dihedral> Aali? 10:25:40 * Roest can't code 10:25:54 <dihedral> Eddi :-) 10:25:56 <Ammler> only hack ;-) 10:25:57 <dihedral> uh yeah 10:26:03 <dihedral> no Ammler: not only hack 10:26:09 <dihedral> only hack if there is no other way 10:26:27 <Ammler> (was refering to roest) 10:26:34 <dihedral> me too :-P 10:26:39 <dihedral> well also 10:26:42 <dihedral> @seen Celestar 10:26:42 <DorpsGek> dihedral: Celestar was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 2 days, 22 hours, 35 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <Celestar> great* 10:26:45 <dihedral> gnah 10:26:46 <Timitry> The problem with me is that i always like to start to learn something, but am not very persistent... 10:27:02 <Ammler> celestar would have other work, if he has time ;-) 10:27:14 <Timitry> Just like the website for my judo-club, started but never finished... 10:27:28 <dihedral> that is something websites just attrackt 10:27:38 <dihedral> and patch packs 10:27:41 <dihedral> or IN's 10:28:15 <Timitry> http://www.rehms.net/test/Index.html 10:28:31 <Ammler> but celestar showed already interests in combining IS and cargodest 10:29:11 <Timitry> I'd prefer to have a finished CS first :D 10:29:28 <Roest> CS? 10:29:36 <Timitry> ÀÀÀÀh 10:29:41 <Roest> cargo sharing? 10:29:43 <Timitry> CargodeSt 10:29:46 <Timitry> ;-) 10:30:41 <Ammler> seems like nobody is able to make nice homepages without fixed widths. 10:31:07 <Timitry> Well, that's due to the crappy IE6 10:31:14 <Timitry> I really tried, but did not manage it... 10:31:30 <Timitry> Problem was the header graphic 10:32:04 <Roest> only thing IE6 users should see is "update your fucking browser" 10:32:57 * Roest hates developing for IE6 with a passion 10:34:15 <Roest> http://www.n-tv.de/1102465.html 10:34:28 <dihedral> Ammler: you can use em as width ;-) 10:34:36 <Timitry> Having the red-black transition as background, putting the two logos on top of that and a text in the middle... 10:34:46 <Timitry> With IE --> Forget it 10:34:55 * TrueBrain is so happy OpenTTD website looks pretty simular in most browsers ... :) (just a random comment, didn't read this conversation at all :p) 10:35:01 <Timitry> I think version 6 does not even know min-width... 10:35:41 <Ammler> TrueBrain: but also fixed ;-) 10:36:32 <TrueBrain> Ammler: small penalty to pay ;) 10:36:51 <Ammler> yeah, seems so, the majority of websites tell that. 10:37:30 <Timitry> And since i integrated lightbox2 on my website, i'm getting aware on how much websites use this :) 10:37:35 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 10:40:28 <Timitry> Quote Ammler: "seems like nobody is able to make nice homepages without fixed widths." --> The problem with non-fixed widths is readability... The columns just get too large and make it hard to read the text, but i guess you know that. However, i tried with a variable width from 800px up to somewhat like 1300px, but IE screwed that 10:41:02 *** [gone]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:42:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.192.119] has joined #openttd 10:42:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.207.77] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:42:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.192.119] has quit [] 10:46:37 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.132.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:53:39 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.132.255] has joined #openttd 10:58:19 *** [gone]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:58:52 <dihedral> ^ lies 10:58:57 <dihedral> you just joined 10:59:56 <TrueBrain> dihedral: you are so weird 11:00:17 <dihedral> :-) 11:00:22 <dihedral> whole heartedly 11:00:57 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.115] has joined #openttd 11:05:16 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.115] has quit [] 11:06:03 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 11:27:28 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:32:33 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn12-192.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:34:23 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.115] has joined #openttd 11:37:31 *** JapaMala [~Japa@117.201.97.115] has joined #openttd 11:41:00 *** Lisby [~Lisby@d40a9ee9.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 11:44:50 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:44:51 *** JapaMala is now known as |Japa| 11:59:34 *** Lisby [~Lisby@d40a9ee9.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:07:04 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.115] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC] 12:07:35 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.115] has joined #openttd 12:18:18 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:23:31 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.36] has joined #openttd 12:29:49 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:34:31 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-10-28-138.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 12:34:42 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=764460#p764460 12:34:56 <dihedral> i received a private message.... on the forums: "what's irc" 12:35:46 <TrueBrain> not everyone is as brilliant as you are dihedral ;) :p 12:36:06 <dihedral> b-words come to mind TrueBrain 12:36:21 <Rubidium> that's an question to be asked google... 12:36:41 <TrueBrain> brilliant? 12:36:42 <TrueBrain> best? 12:36:44 <dihedral> hehe - create a magic-google-ball :-D 12:36:45 <TrueBrain> beauty? 12:36:49 <TrueBrain> they all apply to me, I know I know :) 12:37:08 <|Japa|> along with blatant liar 12:37:14 <dihedral> .? 12:37:49 <dihedral> bastard, bloody <other 'nice' word>, bitch, .... 12:38:24 <Forked> you don 12:38:29 <Forked> 't have to be smart to know what irc is 12:38:33 <Forked> just look at me :) 12:38:55 <TrueBrain> Forked: who said anything about needing to be smart? :p 12:39:01 <Forked> brilliant == smart? 12:39:12 <|Japa|> no, means shiny 12:39:21 <TrueBrain> is it? :) 12:39:25 <Aali> dihedral? 12:39:36 <dihedral> \o/ 12:39:38 <|Japa|> as in: a brilliant white light 12:39:38 <dihedral> there you are 12:39:51 <Forked> smartest white light ever 12:44:56 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:55:57 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:01:21 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C006.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:01:33 <fjb> Hello 13:02:07 * Rubidium wonders who have to pay for IRC 13:03:04 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: you don't pay for access? 13:03:27 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: but I guess most people nowadays pay a flatrate 13:03:29 <|Japa|> I don't 13:03:34 <planetmaker> so it doesn't matter. 13:03:43 <Rubidium> well, I pay for my internet connection, but I don't pay for IRC itself 13:03:48 <|Japa|> I use a friends connection 13:03:49 <planetmaker> yep ^^ :) 13:03:55 <TrueBrain> flatrate for IRC? 13:03:56 <TrueBrain> :s 13:04:03 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: no. For Internet :) 13:04:17 <TrueBrain> you are WEIRD! 13:04:19 <planetmaker> Paying for IRC would surely hurt me :) 13:04:23 <DASPRiD> pay for IRC? uh? 13:04:37 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: we talked about IRC, if you would have read what was said correctly :) 13:04:46 <TrueBrain> DASPRiD: so you are here illegal? :p 13:04:51 <Rubidium> apparantly some people have to pay for using/connecting? to IRC 13:04:53 <DASPRiD> :P 13:05:04 <DASPRiD> poor people 13:05:11 * TrueBrain calls 0900-ILLEGALIRCUSERS 13:05:29 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: I read that. And I pointed out due to an internet flatrate it isn't necessary to pay for IRC :) 13:05:34 * DASPRiD calls TrueBrain's mom 13:05:35 <DASPRiD> :x 13:05:40 <planetmaker> But I guess... words and puns and ... :P 13:05:50 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: so due to the internet flatrate, you don't have to pay for porno websites? 13:06:00 <TrueBrain> weird conclusions .. 13:06:24 <TrueBrain> as we say in dutch: "dat slaat als een lul op een varken" 13:06:27 <planetmaker> yep :P 13:06:28 <DASPRiD> well this server doesnt required a payed account, so 13:06:29 <DASPRiD> :> 13:06:33 <TrueBrain> or as I raid yesterday: "that is comparing apples with carrots" 13:06:39 <DASPRiD> TrueBrain, ik ben ben! 13:06:41 <planetmaker> hehe :) 13:07:12 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: okay, lets rephrase it for you: if you are connected with MSN, do you need to pay EXTRA for connecting to IRC? 13:07:16 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B8318F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:07:37 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: for me? What did I do wrong :( 13:07:44 <DASPRiD> everything ... 13:07:58 <TrueBrain> I was just pointing out the flaw in planetmaker's thinking :p 13:08:22 <planetmaker> :P I prefer the interpretation of "Truebrain willing to understand" :P 13:08:36 <TrueBrain> but to answer: no, I only have to pay extra when I am not connected to MSN .. stupid Microsoft ... always finding ways to get money from us :( 13:08:43 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: fair enough 13:08:46 <TrueBrain> DASPRiD: fair enough 13:09:04 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B80FCD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:09:11 <planetmaker> darn.... +not ;) 13:09:33 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: ghehe 13:09:57 <TrueBrain> I am going to play a bit more F.E.A.R. 2 .. you guys are boring :p 13:10:09 * planetmaker yawns 13:11:08 <TrueBrain> that game is really good :) I have troubles putting it away :) 13:11:25 <TrueBrain> played it for 10+ hours in the last 48 hours ... might be a bit sick :p 13:11:27 * planetmaker hands TrueBrain one of his nice, tiny magnets 13:11:40 <planetmaker> That can solve the issue :P 13:18:07 *** smallfly [~smallfly@p578F1BA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:18:39 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:22:16 <DASPRiD> TrueBrain, is your pc fast enough for that? ;P 13:28:28 <|Japa|> I understood ity perfectly 13:29:22 *** [gone]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:29:34 <|Japa|> but I think it would be better to use one of those magnets that can snap your fingeroff if your not carefull 13:36:16 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:36:19 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:37:26 <Roest> planetmaker do you still have high hopes? 13:39:48 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:40:56 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:43:44 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 13:43:54 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has left #openttd [] 13:44:03 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 13:44:43 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:46:41 *** prakti [~myself@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:47:30 <planetmaker> Roest: no 13:47:42 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.115] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!] 13:48:14 <Roest> but good post, that's what i wanted to tell him 13:48:24 <planetmaker> I would have higher hopes, if he had demonstrated that he a) could compile trunk and b) could compile a patched trunk (correct revision) 13:48:52 <planetmaker> thx 13:51:27 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.115] has joined #openttd 13:58:18 *** Perfk [~Perfk@0x55509325.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #openttd [] 14:02:39 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:03:07 <Roest> dihedral 14:03:48 <Roest> captain dihedral tot he bridge 14:04:15 <Roest> we have an emergency question that needs to be answered 14:04:22 <Roest> How do i compile it i cant see it were is the buton in TortoiseSVN to compile open ttd 14:05:13 *** davis- [~iloveme@p5B28C5EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:12:34 * valhalla1w slaps Roest 14:12:46 <valhalla1w> tortoiseSVN is an svn client, not a compiler :P 14:12:48 *** valhalla1w is now known as valhallasw 14:13:12 <Sacro> valhallasw: wrong 14:13:17 <Sacro> tortoiseSVN is a frontend 14:13:20 <Sacro> svn is an svn client 14:13:44 <Rubidium> Sacro: that's a frontend too... 14:13:49 <Sacro> to what? 14:13:56 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:14:19 <Rubidium> libsvn 14:14:54 <Roest> valhallasw i did only forward the question to support operative dihedral 14:14:54 <Rubidium> tortoisesvn does also talk directly with libsvn 14:15:04 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:15:29 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:16:16 <valhallasw> Sacro: "A Subversion client, implemented as a windows shell extension.", as stated on http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ 14:16:42 <Sacro> i thought it was a wrapper 14:17:05 <valhallasw> Roest: oh, wait, that's someone elses post on the forum? :P 14:17:24 <Rubidium> a random applause for valhallasw ;) 14:17:28 <TrueBrain> DASPRiD: I have a nice xbox 14:17:51 <|Japa|> my box is better 14:17:58 <valhallasw> Rubidium: well, I don't read up further than the last 20 lines generally 14:18:10 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:18:45 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:18:51 <DASPRiD> TrueBrain, xbox is slooow :x 14:19:43 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20:45 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:21:05 *** sarahlnx [~sarahlnx@cpc3-hem17-0-0-cust307.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:23:53 *** smeding [~smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:25:16 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:32:21 *** sarahlnx [~sarahlnx@cpc3-hem17-0-0-cust307.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has left #openttd [Leaving] 14:34:43 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:50 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 14:40:22 *** smallfly [~smallfly@p578F1BA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!] 14:41:00 <planetmaker> DASPRiD: there's an English university which uses them in a cluster as high performance computer :) 14:41:09 <DASPRiD> rofl 14:41:27 <planetmaker> maybe it was some other console, but some of that kind :) 14:41:51 <Sacro> yep 14:41:58 <Sacro> xbox cluster = sweet 14:42:06 <planetmaker> :) 14:42:20 <planetmaker> hehe. That explains the sales of xboxes: computer clusters :P 14:43:08 <SmatZ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_3_cluster like this? 14:44:57 <planetmaker> might well be, SmatZ. I don't recall exactly. Been some time I read it. 14:45:43 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 14:45:46 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 14:49:37 <planetmaker> hello sir Belugas :) 14:52:23 <Belugas> hello indeed ho Maker of Planets 14:52:58 <Belugas> ooop.... sorry... you have notyet upgraded... still making one planet :) 14:54:17 <planetmaker> lol :) 14:54:43 <planetmaker> I'm only capable of making on at a time... or I'd bear a different nick... like 14:54:56 <planetmaker> solar-system-maker :P or something 14:55:29 <Belugas> hehe 14:55:49 <planetmaker> planets without stars are no fun... 14:55:51 <planetmaker> :P 14:57:29 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.97.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:58:09 <TrueBrain> DASPRiD: if you think an xbox is slow, you never played on any 14:58:17 <TrueBrain> damn, finished FEAR2 ... good game .. good game :) 14:58:18 <DASPRiD> i did 14:58:40 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: from __future__ import antigravity] 14:58:44 <Sacro> planetmaker: zartiblatfast? 14:58:49 <Sacro> *zartiblartfast 14:59:15 <Roest> slartibartfast 14:59:16 <Sacro> slartibartfast even >M 14:59:27 <Sacro> has been a whlie since i read it 15:00:34 <planetmaker> well... whatever :P 15:00:40 <planetmaker> that word doesn't make sense to me :) 15:01:23 <Roest> yea rrrrrrrright 15:01:42 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 15:03:05 * Roest wonders if Alain is a real person or someone making fun of us 15:06:27 <planetmaker> He'll be real. He's playing on dih's server. 15:07:06 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 15:19:16 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has joined #openttd 15:21:25 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e179061251.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:22:04 <dihedral> re 15:22:10 <dihedral> lol @ Roest 15:28:00 <dihedral> alain seems to be a real twerp! 15:28:22 <Forked> boioing 15:28:54 <dihedral> i mean - it's worse than i had expected in the first place 15:29:10 <dihedral> and planetmaker granted him the benefit of the doubt.... :-D 15:29:12 * Forked ponders about punching out just to play openttd 15:30:05 * planetmaker ponders about granting myself now the benefit of a weekend start :) 15:30:22 * planetmaker decided on 'yes' :D 15:30:26 <planetmaker> see you later :) 15:31:46 <Roest> http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2008-03-02/ 15:31:52 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 15:39:51 *** patch [~sdf@cm-84.211.65.194.getinternet.no] has joined #openttd 15:39:51 *** patchie [~sdf@cm-84.211.65.194.getinternet.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:40:00 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 15:41:35 <Roest> man this is going to kill me, today is the date for the first review cycle notification for the eurovis, i wish they'd send it out already 15:44:40 <TrueBrain> you are weird 15:45:39 <Roest> why ? 15:46:09 <TrueBrain> because I say so 15:46:13 <Roest> k 15:46:40 <Roest> i mean i knew that already, just thought i'd get a reason 15:46:52 <TrueBrain> nah 15:46:56 <TrueBrain> why specify such things? 15:47:03 <TrueBrain> seems unreasonable to expect that of me 15:47:57 <Roest> you never know 15:48:05 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:48:10 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has joined #openttd 15:48:22 <TrueBrain> that is true for sure 15:50:06 <dihedral> of course TrueBrain never knows 15:56:16 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.219.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:01:06 *** kingj [~KingJ@78.33.77.139] has joined #openttd 16:04:30 <dihedral> "hello computer" 16:04:54 <Forked> ello master 16:05:57 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 16:06:38 <Roest> a computer with a french accent? 16:07:59 <Forked> it will cham you 16:16:27 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:18:01 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e176236049.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:18:01 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e179061251.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:18:01 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 16:22:39 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 16:25:39 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5E7BB.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:26:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15466 /trunk/src/ai/ai_info.cpp: -Fix (r15330): The squirrel instance object was freed twice if an info.nut failed to compile. 16:27:22 *** KingJ is now known as KingJ-temp 16:27:34 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:28:14 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.132.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:30:46 *** Hirundo is now known as Swallow_ 16:30:55 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:31:02 *** Swallow_ is now known as Swallow 16:33:04 *** KingJ [~KingJ@nl1.game.kingj.net] has joined #openttd 16:33:32 *** KingJ-temp [~KingJ@78.33.77.139] has left #openttd [] 16:35:46 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.132.255] has joined #openttd 16:48:08 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 17:00:46 *** davis- [~iloveme@p5B28C5EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:02:31 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:04:14 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:07:51 *** TrueBrain [truebrain@openttd.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07:57 *** TrueBrain [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 17:08:03 *** davis- [~iloveme@p5B28C5EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:11:00 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:17:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15467 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs): -Fix [NoAI]: AIs with an error in their info.nut are no longer available in-game. 17:20:46 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:30:47 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:32:38 <Roest> rubidium spieler = player which of course could mean company in that case 17:35:30 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fedec.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 17:36:02 <Rubidium> Roest: in any case it was wrong and it currently is wrong 17:36:29 <Yexo> it's not only in german though, english has the same text (2-8) 17:36:31 <Rubidium> and if it means company, then single player can be Mehrspieler too 17:36:39 <Rubidium> really? 17:36:44 <Rubidium> hmm... who wrote that? 17:37:51 <Roest> no i meant spieler translates as player which wouldn't mean company in the language but a player could be understood as company in that environment 17:38:25 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/str.diff <- that would fix english 17:38:33 <Rubidium> just don't mention the number of players ;) 17:39:26 <Roest> that makes it y3k safe 17:39:54 <Yexo> Rubidium: wouldn't it be better to remove the string from all other languages so they're force to correct it? 17:45:49 <Rubidium> hmm, I think there should be a more thorough review of the current english strings 17:46:01 <Rubidium> seems to me that there're quite some strings that aren't used anymore 17:46:37 <Belugas> watch out, some are maybe not explicitely used, but are referenced by incrementing the base one 17:46:48 <Belugas> thus implicit use 17:47:01 <Belugas> granted, it'snot the case of all those "unused" 17:47:02 <Rubidium> Belugas: I know 17:48:26 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:50:16 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 17:50:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15468 /trunk/src/lang/ (47 files in 2 dirs): -Fix: reword the multiplayer tooltip so it doesn't mention the (incorrect) number of players anymore. 17:55:26 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:55:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15469 /trunk/src/lang/english.txt: -Fix (r15468): why doesn't subversion trigger the save of my text editor before doing the commit? 17:56:20 <frosch123> the man who can faster commit than his editor can save :) 17:57:15 <el_en> your word order a little germanic sounds. 17:57:39 <frosch123> maybe it is just old english 17:58:18 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 18:01:51 <petern> maybe it was just wrong 18:06:20 <planetmaker> [18:39] <Yexo> Rubidium: wouldn't it be better to remove the string from all other languages so they're force to correct it? <--- I would disagree. I think the translators think about what the function does. 18:06:30 <planetmaker> word by word translations are often more a fail than not 18:06:54 <Yexo> I think the translators think about what the function does. <- I hope they do, but I think a lot of them don't 18:07:32 <planetmaker> Yexo: it's the easier way not to, sure :) 18:07:34 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:07:57 <planetmaker> But to fix the non obvious errors, that's what we started the German translation topic in the forums for. 18:08:02 <Yexo> planetmaker: just take a look at the removed strings, almost all of them had 2-8 (only bulgarian had 1-7 for some reason) 18:08:45 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-211-146-65.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:09:08 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 18:12:18 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:13:51 *** Yeggs-work is now known as Yeggstry 18:14:08 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e176236049.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:14:08 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176236049.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:14:09 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:15:42 *** smeding [~smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:15:51 *** smeding [smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:20:15 <Nite_Owl> Reformatted the hard drive, reinstalled Windows XP and all the proper drivers, and now the PC is caught in a boot up loop - that is it gets to the windows loading screen, goes to a black screen, and then back to the windows loading screen in an endless loop. I plan on going into windows repair and trying to fix the boot sector etc. but any other advice would be appreciated. 18:22:23 <SpComb> Nite_Owl: black screen, as in BIOS bootup? 18:22:27 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 18:22:37 <SpComb> if it reboots during windows-bootup, then it's probably BSOD'ing 18:23:19 <Prof_Frink> But with BSODs turned off. 18:23:41 <Alberth> The 'B' means Black here, obviously :) 18:24:06 <Nite_Owl> no BIOS boot up - no key press 18:25:39 <Nite_Owl> The black screen only lasts a second before the windows loading screen comes back around 18:26:24 <SpComb> sounds wierd 18:26:38 <Nite_Owl> normally it would go from the black screen onto the windows desktop 18:30:04 <Nite_Owl> I have been playing around with this one for over a week and cannot get it back to a stable condition 18:31:39 <Nite_Owl> Boot sector repair is the last possibility and if that does not work then the thing is toast. I could try replacing the hard drive but... 18:32:27 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 18:32:27 <SpComb> memtest? 18:33:41 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:33:42 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:34:11 <Nite_Owl> tried that - the memory and the motherboard are fine as far as I can tell 18:40:02 <Nite_Owl> I will give it one last shot tomorrow if what I have in mind does not work then it will be up to them to decide if they want to replace the hard drive or get a new tower/system 18:42:16 <TrueBrain> Nite_Owl: if your OS boots, it is not your boot sector which is damaged ... 18:43:53 <TrueBrain> and most likely you installed a driver which makes windows BSOD .. wouldn't be the first time .. 18:44:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15470 /trunk/src/ai/ai_info.cpp: -Fix [NoAI]: Check the types of the parameters passed to AddSetting, AddLabels and RegisterAI. 18:44:22 <Nite_Owl> the OS (winXP) does not boot - it starts to then loops back which is what lead me to believe it could be the boot sector 18:44:39 <TrueBrain> you say you see the windows loading screen 18:44:44 <TrueBrain> this is WAY past the boot sector ... 18:45:21 <TrueBrain> try pressing F8 .. if you get a menu, it is not your bootsector :) 18:45:33 <TrueBrain> (if it is, btw, your BIOS will error out with telling you something nifty) 18:46:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r15471 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 18:46:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-02-13 18:45:45 18:46:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: dutch - 12 changed by Excel20 (12) 18:46:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: finnish - 1 fixed by jpx_ (1) 18:46:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: french - 1 fixed, 2 changed by glx (3) 18:46:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: luxembourgish - 333 fixed by Gubius (333) 18:46:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: ukrainian - 5 fixed by mad (5) 18:46:54 <Nite_Owl> and it was working fine for 3 days prior to this - the F8 does give a menu - darn, what could it be then? 18:47:05 <TrueBrain> [19:43] <TrueBrain> and most likely you installed a driver which makes windows BSOD .. wouldn't be the first time .. 18:47:06 <glx> looks like a driver problem :) 18:47:11 <TrueBrain> I generally hate repeating myself :p 18:47:22 <TrueBrain> in the F8 menu, do: Load Last Known Good Configuration 18:47:31 <TrueBrain> if you didn't disable that feature, it most of the time loads 18:47:34 <glx> check video driver (usually it's the faulty one) 18:47:41 <TrueBrain> with the lost of a few drivers and windows updates, most of the time 18:47:51 <TrueBrain> and if you are lucky safemode does load 18:47:58 <TrueBrain> depending on which driver fucks up ... 18:48:06 <TrueBrain> glx: how to check if you can't boot? ;) :p 18:48:14 <glx> safemode :) 18:48:29 <TrueBrain> :) I hope for Nite_Owl that safemode loads ;) 18:48:34 <glx> and you can force VGA too 18:48:38 <TrueBrain> true :) 18:49:22 <goodger> I think you mean SVGA 18:49:31 <glx> no I mean VGA 18:49:34 <TrueBrain> oh dear, goodger knows better again ... 18:49:59 <KingJ> What's the command to enable the magic bulldoser cheat on a dedicated server? 18:50:00 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:50:05 <goodger> IIRC, windows XP's safe mode operates in 800x600 at 256 colours 18:50:20 <Nite_Owl> according to the owner (not the most reliable source) she could not go to Last Known option because the keyboard would not work 18:50:23 <glx> KingJ: cheats are disabled for multiplayer 18:50:33 <TrueBrain> Nite_Owl: hahahaha :) Get a PS/2 keyboard, and plug it in :) 18:50:47 <glx> TrueBrain: try that on a dell ;) 18:50:56 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:50:58 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:51:07 <TrueBrain> glx: the dells without ps/2 have correct usb keyboard detection at bios level :) Well .. the ones I had in my hands :p 18:51:07 <KingJ> Ah that's a shame, magic bulldoser is the only cheat I ever turn on 18:51:46 <Nite_Owl> it is a Dell - I will bring an old keyboard - it does have a PS/2 port 18:52:01 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-66-180-201-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 18:52:03 <goodger> ... 18:52:15 <TrueBrain> Nite_Owl: yeah .. some usb keyboards are not detected on those old machines ;) 18:52:23 <TrueBrain> won't even let you in the bios ... annoying :p 18:52:49 <Nite_Owl> She has a wireless keyboard 18:52:54 <TrueBrain> even worse :p 18:53:06 <glx> if they implement BIOS stuff they should ;) 18:53:30 <TrueBrain> but okay, the wireless keyboard most likely is just an usb keyboard, seen from the system 18:53:43 * glx played with USB stuff recently (built a joypad adapter) 18:53:50 <TrueBrain> glx: cool :) 18:53:56 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-2.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [+++ Rebooting Universe, Please Try Again Later +++] 18:53:56 <Nite_Owl> I did not have her try to get into the BIOS over the phone - too risky 18:54:24 <TrueBrain> Nite_Owl: and no much she could do there anyway ;) Was just pointing out the keyboard is only detected by the OS .. rather annoying :) 18:54:54 <Aali> funny tidbit; legacy keyboard emulation with a certain combination of BIOS and linux makes SMP systems unbootable 18:55:34 <TrueBrain> strange things between BIOS and OS are not rare :) Far from it .. 18:55:43 <Aali> happened on a newly assembled server of mine 18:55:54 <Aali> if it weren't for google I would never have figured it out 18:56:19 <TrueBrain> so you did send them money for it, I hope? :p 18:56:38 <Aali> non-SMP kernel worked flawlessly, SMP kernel borked with a million errors and rebooted 18:56:54 <glx> even worse with USB ;) 18:57:08 <Nite_Owl> Ah well it will be a fun day tomorrow - thank you all for the advice 18:57:08 <TrueBrain> Aali: most problems are solved in 2.6.26+ kernels btw 18:57:16 <TrueBrain> but SMP in general gave errors from time to time with older ones ;) 18:57:20 <TrueBrain> Nite_Owl: good luck :) 18:57:24 <TrueBrain> happy driver-hunting 18:57:32 <TrueBrain> one of the worst parts of Windows .................... 18:57:40 <glx> usually it's video :) 18:57:49 <Aali> that server is running 2.6.25 :P 18:58:03 <TrueBrain> glx: I have had it with my ATA driver, with my audio driver, with my video driver, and with a usb (!) driver ... 18:58:09 <TrueBrain> but yeah, in general it is the video driver :) 18:58:29 <Aali> unless you have a creative sound card 18:58:31 <TrueBrain> the ATA one was the hardest to detect :( 18:58:32 <glx> anyway for dell, always use dell drivers 18:58:46 <TrueBrain> from support.dell.com ;) 18:58:50 <glx> yep 18:58:52 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 18:58:56 <Aali> creative makes the shittiest drivers ever 18:58:57 <TrueBrain> morning DaleStan 18:59:18 <glx> I'm still trying to find why my father's dell sometimes hang 18:59:45 <TrueBrain> I still wonder why they sold me a T5750 and claimed it supported VT-X :( 18:59:45 <Nite_Owl> I have already spent many days trying to fix this one so just one more could not hurt too much 19:00:03 <TrueBrain> Nite_Owl: I hope she is pretty 19:02:05 <Nite_Owl> she is my older cousin so it does not even count in those terms or in 'getting paid' terms although she will usually give me some money but not as much as I usually charge 19:02:46 <Nite_Owl> still you do what you can for family 19:03:21 <TrueBrain> hmm .. so 'pretty' is not relavant too 19:03:22 <TrueBrain> sad :p 19:04:12 <Nite_Owl> Hmmm - I better bring a mouse too just in case 19:04:32 <glx> mous is not important ;) 19:04:44 <glx> you can do everything without it 19:04:59 <Nite_Owl> true 19:05:18 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:05:31 <glx> but if install worked then keyboard worked too 19:05:47 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:06:38 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:06:50 <Nite_Owl> up until this boot loop problem everything worked fine - granted it only lasted a few days and then went nuts again 19:07:06 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:11:51 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.132.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:14:22 *** davis- [~iloveme@p5B28C5EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14:25 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-66-180-201-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18:45 <Nite_Owl> Once again thank you all for your advice 19:19:06 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.132.255] has joined #openttd 19:21:36 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:08 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:25:53 <TrueBrain> Nite_Owl: those who do nice, receive nice ;) 19:26:19 <TrueBrain> Mortal: can I suggest getting a more stable connection? 19:26:38 <Mortal> sorry TrueBrain, that's my irc client plugin crashing 19:26:58 <Mortal> I can turn autoconnect off for oftc if you'd like 19:27:15 <TrueBrain> I think it is more useful if you have an irc client which doesn't cash all the time ;) 19:30:59 <TrueBrain> haha, Marusha - Over the rainbow .. that is an old song :) 19:31:57 <Rubidium> depends on what one would classify as old 19:32:01 <TrueBrain> 1994 19:32:23 <TrueBrain> (but that might have been very obvious) 19:32:51 <Rubidium> how would you classify something from like 1230? 19:33:06 <TrueBrain> sorry, I don't have any recording from 1230, so I wouldn't know 19:34:36 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-118.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:37:31 *** Elukka [~elukka.el@bb-89-166-45-150.dsl.phnet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:37:34 <Elukka> helloes 19:37:42 <TrueBrain> plural? Cool :) Hi to you too 19:38:03 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: don't you have earlier music? 19:38:22 <Rubidium> or older 19:38:23 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejb102.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 19:38:45 <Elukka> clearly plural greetings are superior to singular ones 19:39:20 <Rubidium> 1966 seems to be the oldest song in my (relatively small) collection 19:40:01 <Rubidium> and that number has even been quite current the last few years 19:40:52 <Elukka> hmm 19:41:16 <Elukka> do all the NoAIs do the "spam 9001 buses on the same road so that its a huge road composed of buses" thing when there are lots of passengers? 19:41:49 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:41:52 <Rubidium> Elukka: no, but some are 'encouraged' to build more busses because they are blocked by others 19:41:58 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 19:42:01 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 19:42:07 <Yexo> admiralai has a limit on the number of AIs per bus stop, but with big towns you'll still get jams 19:42:41 <Elukka> the only ai i've ever used was the old "alpha ai" patch in trunk :D 19:42:47 <Elukka> it actually works pretty well for road vehicles 19:42:53 <Rubidium> Yexo: s/AIs/busses/ ? 19:43:06 <Yexo> Rubidium: yes :p 19:43:32 <Rubidium> could be you made it IS compatible already 19:44:20 <Yexo> that's impossible, since the AI can't check vehicles of other companies 19:44:44 <Elukka> i liked using them to build bus services for me 19:44:47 <Yexo> and if that is changes, other places that assume so will fail 19:44:50 <Elukka> they'd build them, then i'd buy them out 19:50:36 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e176236049.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:50:36 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176236049.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:50:37 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 20:01:40 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176236049.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:01:41 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e176236049.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:04:27 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1-re1.dk.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:09:06 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 20:11:56 <Roest> Max station spread. Warning High setting slows game. Now what would be considered a high setting? 20:12:40 <Roest> hmm possible answers are 42 and depends 20:12:42 <kingj> I run mine on 40, and notice no slowdown 20:21:00 *** SHRIKEE_ [~shrikee@84-105-52-118.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:28:19 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-118.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:30:10 *** foru [~foru@193.43.249.169] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:32:26 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:34:29 *** lemed [~lemed@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 20:37:51 <Belugas> fucking Tomcat :( 20:37:56 <Belugas> cannot redirect an address 20:38:49 <Rubidium> well... it's chasing Jerrymouse ;) 20:39:53 <glx> lol 20:41:52 <Rubidium> Belugas: you know that the Americans stopped using Tomcats in 2006, right? 20:42:29 <Belugas> :) 20:43:02 <glx> they stopped using F14? 20:43:05 <Belugas> http://tomcat.apache.org/ 20:43:50 <Rubidium> glx: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,215219,00.html 20:43:56 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5E7BB.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:43:59 <glx> wiki says that too 20:46:44 <Rubidium> true, but whatever wikipedia says doesn't mean it's true 20:46:55 <Rubidium> even when they got 'sources' for it 20:47:15 <Zahl_> can somebody tell me why i wont get the subsidy-offer-dunnowhat in this savegame for gunnton and flendham? http://cod.spieleplanet.eu/subs.zip 20:47:22 *** davis- [~iloveme@p5B28C5EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:47:22 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 20:47:39 <Rubidium> station flag is not within 9 tiles of destination industry/town flag 20:48:33 *** lemed [~lemed@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:48:49 <Zahl> hmmm.. has it always been like that? 20:49:39 <Zahl> by station flag you mean what exactly? 20:49:50 *** vosihefuf [~vosihefuf@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 20:50:04 <Rubidium> there where the station name is 20:50:25 <Rubidium> and it has only been so since somewhere in the mid 1990s 20:51:11 <Zahl> so its brand new, so to say 20:52:35 <Zahl> awesome, it works! youre my hero Rubidium :-) 21:01:07 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-219-215.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:05:21 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:07:17 *** vosihefuf [~vosihefuf@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08:03 *** mylin [~mylin@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 21:14:21 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:19:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15472 /trunk/src/lang/english.txt: -Fix: consistency of capitalisation of words in the intro gui and of NewGRF. 21:24:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15473 /trunk/src/ (intro_gui.cpp lang/english.txt): -Fix: add two missing tooltips in the intro gui 21:25:28 *** mylin [~mylin@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25:59 *** raxuhaho [~raxuhaho@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 21:32:10 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:34:06 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 21:34:56 *** ldf [~ldf@93.1.124.49] has joined #openttd 21:36:54 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 21:44:45 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fedec.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:35 *** raxuhaho [~raxuhaho@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46:29 *** vumoryhis [~vumoryhis@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 21:47:52 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:49:03 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: energetic] 21:49:32 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:53:18 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02:40 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:03:01 *** ldf [~ldf@93.1.124.49] has quit [Quit: ldf] 22:09:02 <Roest> hmm is it possible for a vehicle with shared orders to get unshared again? 22:10:06 *** smeding [smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:12:23 <valhallasw> Roest: select 'end of shared orders' and click delete 22:12:24 <valhallasw> iirc 22:20:05 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.132.255] has quit [Quit: edgepro: Why are you staring at my shoes? They're perfectly normal.] 22:23:01 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host114-234-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 22:23:11 <Wolf01> 'night 22:23:14 <Wolf01> :D 22:28:22 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejb102.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 22:31:51 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:36:52 <el_en> what is under the openttd world? 22:37:17 <el_en> is it possible the world lies on the backs of four elephants? 22:38:22 <Nite_Owl> which in turn stand on the back of a turtle 22:38:35 <Prof_Frink> The Great A'Tuin. 22:38:50 <valhallasw> the only turtle ever to show up on a Hertzsprung-Russell diagram? 22:39:04 <el_en> yes, naturally the elephants can't be standing on thin air (or space), there must be a turtle. 22:40:01 <Elukka> then what do the turtles stand on? 22:40:09 <Prof_Frink> Nah, it can't be the Disc because a) it's square and b) the circumfence goes all the way round 22:40:27 <Prof_Frink> Elukka: It's a *turtle*. It *swims*. 22:40:57 <Elukka> ah, that explains everything 22:42:14 <valhallasw> Prof_Frink: maybe some alternate squareworld? 22:43:13 <Sacro> Elukka: turtles all the way down 22:44:23 <Roest> dihedral 22:50:34 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 22:56:03 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59:50 <Yeggstry> forgive my complete ignorance, but can someone explain how the transfers work? 23:00:14 <Elukka> they transfer stuff 23:00:24 <Elukka> which means you can drop off things to intermediate stations 23:00:33 <Elukka> the cargo will wait there until picked up by another vehicle 23:00:49 <Yeggstry> I dont understand the fact that my train has a profit but the lorries which move it to the final destination have a cost each time 23:02:10 <Nite_Owl> it works better profit wise if the transfer is short and the trip to the final destination is long 23:02:34 <Elukka> you'll still get the money, though 23:02:48 <Elukka> the time the cargo is waiting is counted as travel time, i think 23:03:39 <Nite_Owl> not necessarily - it could loose money if the transfer is really long and the trip to the final destination is really short 23:04:10 <Rubidium> 1) the first vehicles don't actually earn money 23:04:10 <Prof_Frink> How does one loose anything other than arrows? 23:04:34 <Rubidium> 2) the last vehicle earns the whole trip 23:05:13 <Rubidium> to make the non-last vehicles not have negative income, the amount of money they would've gotten are virtually given to those vehicles 23:05:18 <Nite_Owl> you know I can not spell 23:05:30 <Nite_Owl> usually 23:05:57 <Rubidium> after that whatever virtual money is handed out is substracted from the profit that the last vehicle shows 23:05:58 <Prof_Frink> Yeah, but loose/lose really annoys me. 23:06:26 <Nite_Owl> I blame it all on phonetic reading as a child 23:06:28 <Yeggstry> ah ok, the problem I have was that the towns on this map don't give me easy access to transport goods, so I've done a train route to the outskirts then lorries to the final destination 23:12:29 *** wgrant_ [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:12:53 *** wgrant [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:16:15 *** const86 [~const@tower.mimas.ru] has quit [Quit: I'll be back] 23:18:05 *** const86 [~const@tower.mimas.ru] has joined #openttd 23:21:00 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Do it properly. Write a bash one-liner that gives you a countdown. 23:21:18 <el_en> 10 minutes! 23:21:18 <Sacro> eh? 23:21:22 <Sacro> yes :D 23:21:29 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: /exec -o date? 23:23:01 <Prof_Frink> That's not a countdown. 23:23:14 <Prof_Frink> 500s 23:23:59 <Sacro> lol 23:24:41 <el_en> while date +%s ; do sleep 0.8s ; done 23:25:03 <Prof_Frink> Still not a count*down*, is it? 23:25:09 <Sacro> hehe 23:25:16 <Sacro> I have ntp'd 23:25:20 <Sacro> synctime :D 23:25:44 <Prof_Frink> I have ntpd. 23:26:07 <Sacro> nice 23:26:14 <el_en> Prof_Frink: date +-%s ? 23:26:14 <Sacro> come on... 23:26:31 <Prof_Frink> 300 23:27:04 <Prof_Frink> el_en: No, you need to take the output of date +%s and do something to it 23:28:05 <Mark> while true; do clear; echo $((1234567890 - `date +%s`)); sleep 1; done ? 23:28:36 <el_en> Mark: there's a slight chance of missing the important number if you sleep 1. 23:28:46 <Prof_Frink> I'm not bothering with the clear, but yeah 23:29:17 <Sacro> whoo :D 23:30:32 <Prof_Frink> 1 minute 23:31:22 <Prof_Frink> 10s 23:31:32 <Prof_Frink> *GEEKGASM* 23:31:38 <el_en> and we have a lift-off! 23:31:49 <kingj> Happy 1234567890! 23:32:30 <Tefad> INDEED 23:32:37 <Tefad> i'm in ##1234567890 on freenode 23:32:41 <Tefad> that crap exploded 23:32:48 <Sacro> damn, didn't know that 23:33:34 <el_en> wtflol 23:33:47 <kingj> And still is exploding 23:33:52 <Mark> :D 23:34:56 <Prof_Frink> ...well, that was fun, wasn't it. 23:35:06 <Prof_Frink> Roll on 2038. 23:35:46 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 23:36:00 <el_en> never seen any channel with that much traffic 23:36:08 <kd5pbo> What's 1234567890? 23:37:02 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: FFFFFFFF? 23:37:03 <wgrant> el_en: #ubuntu-release-party after Hardy was close, but not quite to that extent... 23:37:31 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: The epochalypse, the end of the unixverse. 23:37:48 <Sacro> hehe :D 23:37:52 <kd5pbo> date() or time() or such returns 1234567890? 23:38:11 <Sacro> yep 23:38:18 <Sacro> seconds since 1/1/1970 23:38:22 <wgrant> Sacro: FFFFFFFF will be the only sound heard as it ticks over, as the world begins to swear. 23:38:27 <Prof_Frink> excluding leap seconds 23:38:48 <Sacro> wgrant: true 23:38:52 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: also true 23:39:07 <kd5pbo> Wait, is it 1234567890 or 0xFFFFFFFF? 23:39:14 <wgrant> 1234567890 just happened. 23:39:19 <wgrant> 0xFFFFFFFF will happen in 2038. 23:39:21 <kd5pbo> Ah. 23:39:23 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet517.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 23:39:39 <el_en> will it? 23:39:52 <Mark> 2000000000 will occour Wed, 18 May 2033 05:33:20 +0200 23:40:07 <Prof_Frink> Pfft, my computer goes well past 2038 anyway 23:40:16 <kd5pbo> Hopefully by then we'll be using four bytes for whatever datatype it returns. 23:40:36 <wgrant> Prof_Frink: But lots of data formats still use 32-bit time_t, and will for a while yet... 23:41:05 <kd5pbo> Well, we have 29 years to add bytes. 23:41:25 <kd5pbo> Who knows, by then a byte maybe 16 bits. 23:41:39 <Wolf01> good night 23:41:44 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host114-234-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:41:54 <Nite_Owl> Yes but the Maya calender ends December 21st, 2012 23:42:17 <kd5pbo> Who do you believe, the Mayans, or the Unix folks. 23:42:24 <Prof_Frink> Hmm 23:42:33 <Prof_Frink> How much beard did the Mayans have? 23:42:34 <kd5pbo> Hm, maybe my girlfriend will cease to exist in 2012, and I'll disappear in 2038. 23:42:51 <Nite_Owl> when the solar system aligns with the black hole at the center of the milky way 23:42:58 <el_en> wgrant: but 0xFFFFFFFF is a negative number. 23:43:09 <kd5pbo> Is it a signed int? 23:43:22 <el_en> usually signed. 23:43:23 <wgrant> You're right, it is signed. 23:43:26 <wgrant> Forgot that. 23:43:32 <Prof_Frink> Nite_Owl: That statement makes no sense. 23:43:34 <kd5pbo> So, we've even less time. 23:44:02 <Prof_Frink> Heh, there's even a 1234567890 thread on UKC 23:44:15 <el_en> 2038 is still the year when trouble arise. 23:44:16 <Nite_Owl> which one? 23:45:02 <Prof_Frink> < Nite_Owl> when the solar system aligns with the black hole at the center of the milky way 23:45:57 <Prof_Frink> el_en: Nah, the *real* trouble's not for a few milennia, when Andromeda arrives 23:46:12 <Elukka> by millenia do you mean billions of years 23:46:20 <Elukka> and it's not real trouble 23:46:32 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B80FCD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:47:31 <Nite_Owl> Perigee might have been a better term 23:47:59 <Prof_Frink> Marston's? 23:48:10 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B82565.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:48:30 <Elukka> galactic collisions are fun 23:48:35 <Elukka> they collide but nothing much actually collides 23:50:19 <Nite_Owl> Marston's ??? 23:50:51 <Prof_Frink> Pe'igree. 23:51:38 <Nite_Owl> Pedigree as in pure breed 23:51:59 <Prof_Frink> As in the beer. 23:52:17 <Nite_Owl> Ahhh - back on beer are we 23:52:30 <Prof_Frink> Did we ever leave? 23:52:41 <Nite_Owl> not really 23:52:48 <Prof_Frink> Good. 23:55:50 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-219-215.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 23:55:52 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-219-215.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:56:00 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 23:59:45 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]