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00:01:20 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-252-203.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:04:14 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 00:08:29 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227065035.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 00:24:23 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm27.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 00:48:31 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-246.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Quit: SHRIKEE] 00:59:11 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm27.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:01:14 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@p54B83BEC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:03:27 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B841EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:09:09 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.103.96] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 01:45:39 <Markk> Now I've searched in both TT-forums and on google for a scenario called "Canus 1.0", but can't find it. 01:46:35 <Markk> What I want from it is a NewGRF that enables rivers that can be over sealevel 01:46:45 <Markk> Anyone know where I can get that? 01:47:21 <DaleStan> Scenarios do not contain newgrfs. "Use", yes. But not "contain". 01:47:31 <DaleStan> Also NewGRF cannot do that. 01:47:47 <Markk> Use, yes. :) 01:47:48 <Markk> Mkay 01:47:55 <Markk> What can it be then? 01:48:08 <DaleStan> So you can't get a newgrf by searching for a scenario. 01:48:34 <Markk> No, but I was looking for a explaination of what they're using 01:49:00 <Markk> Do you have any idea? 01:49:37 <DaleStan> If you don't have the scenario, then how do you know that it has rivers? And if you do, then from whence did you get it, and why don't you go there? 01:49:48 <Markk> I have the scenario 01:50:03 <DaleStan> And if you do, then from whence did you get it, and why don't you go there? 01:50:04 <Markk> I don't remeber where'd get it 01:50:14 <Markk> That's the point 01:50:31 <Markk> And that's why I'm asking if anyone knows what they're using 01:51:57 <Markk> Why must you take it sso litetally? :P 01:52:00 <Markk> so* 01:52:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.188.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:54:45 <DaleStan> <Markk> And that's why I'm asking if anyone knows what they're using <-- Yes. Someone knows. 01:54:52 <DaleStan> http://homepages.tesco.net/~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/questions-with-yes-or-no-answers.html 01:55:13 <Markk> I found where I downloaded it from. 01:55:33 <Markk> I think that you are just like my gf:s father. 01:55:44 <Markk> That's not a good think. 01:55:46 <Markk> thing*. 01:56:26 <Markk> (This is when you should come with: "Oh, I'm so hurt") 01:56:52 <DaleStan> <sarcasm>Oh, I'm so hurt.</sarcasm> 01:57:14 <DaleStan> Also, have you considered that the possibility that they aren't using anything special? 01:57:37 <Markk> Yes 01:57:43 <Markk> But I've found it 01:57:48 <Markk> And it was a NewGRF 01:58:00 <Markk> "OpenGFX-newLandscape v0.3 (you need the sub-arctic rivers)" 02:00:07 <DaleStan> No, it wasn't. NewGRF does not have the power to create rivers. It has the power to supply graphics for rivers, but not to create the rivers. 02:00:08 <DaleStan> Trust me. I don't merely know the spec. I *wrote* part of it. 02:00:26 <Markk> Okey then 02:00:41 <Markk> But as I said, do you have to take it so literally? 02:02:35 <Markk> Oh, there you see 02:02:42 <Markk> (Playing in scenario editor 02:02:43 <Markk> )* 02:02:51 <Markk> Well, good night sir and gents. 02:02:54 <Markk> sirs* 02:05:28 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 02:07:17 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:14:03 *** zodttd [~me@user-142gtg7.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:21:49 <glx> rivers are available in scenario editor, that's all 02:49:10 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:b18b:7eda:d46b:cc65] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:57:19 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:57:27 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has joined #openttd 03:08:30 *** reldred [~richard@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #openttd 03:09:16 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:13:01 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:26:52 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-173-132.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:28:06 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-125-041.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:29:51 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-181-084.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:31:27 *** TheJosh [~TheJosh@ppp121-45-37-110.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 03:31:31 *** TheJosh [~TheJosh@ppp121-45-37-110.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has left #openttd [] 03:36:13 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-173-132.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:39:17 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:43:07 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 04:06:12 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:54:56 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet704.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:14:12 *** rmCowboy [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 05:38:40 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0CF40.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 05:56:10 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:13:49 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 06:39:12 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8a01.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 06:39:17 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-143-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 06:40:15 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-143-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 06:41:51 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-181-084.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:58:06 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 07:12:32 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-143-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 07:15:26 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 07:30:29 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:46:20 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:46:47 *** man9o0 [~Miranda@d193-224-133.home3.cgocable.net] has joined #openttd 07:47:16 <man9o0> wow so many ttd fans ^^ 07:47:26 <TrueBrain> you expected anything else? 07:47:31 <man9o0> hehe 07:47:35 <man9o0> naturally ^^ 07:47:57 <man9o0> hi true i was just reading one of your postst 07:48:08 <TrueBrain> just one? :p 07:48:12 <man9o0> lol 07:48:17 <Forked> one at the time, sir. 07:48:30 <TrueBrain> I always read with multiple threads 07:49:37 <man9o0> i just tried simutrans..sigh kind of a letdown 07:50:40 <man9o0> anyone know if transport giant or locomotion have any mods or cheats? 07:51:11 <Bjarni> you can control your trains in locomotions 07:51:16 <Bjarni> but I can't remember how 07:51:42 <el_en> isn't transport giant the one that sucks big time. 07:52:01 <man9o0> well both that and loco suck in my opinion 07:52:23 <man9o0> once you play ottd there just is no other game 07:52:37 <el_en> locomotion has a bad user interface in some respects, but it also has some nice ideas. 07:52:46 <Cybertinus> Sid Meiers RailRoads III is also very nice imo 07:52:48 <TrueBrain> if they suck, why do you want mods and cheats for them? :p 07:53:18 <man9o0> yes but chris sawyer spent 9 or 10 yrs writing locomotion and look how bad it turned out, its too much like the rollercoaster interface 07:53:39 <TrueBrain> I doubt he spend 10 years on it :p 07:53:54 <man9o0> well..the openttd mod for ttd made it 1000 times better so i figure if someone mods locomotion it may be 50 percent better 07:54:03 <Xaroth> it's not a mod 07:54:05 <Xaroth> it's a rewrite :P 07:54:12 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: it is not a rewrite 07:54:15 <TrueBrain> it is an improvement! 07:54:20 <Xaroth> it's both! :P 07:54:30 <TrueBrain> a rewrite suggests it started from scratch or something 07:54:34 <man9o0> the general interface kept much of the original feel if not all of it 07:54:37 <Xaroth> not really 07:54:43 <Cybertinus> it a highly adapted version :) 07:54:58 <TrueBrain> Cybertinus: that is a nice description yes :) 07:55:12 <man9o0> hey is it allowed to upload a png to the forums which has a tiny bit of adult content in it?? 07:55:16 *** TheJosh [~josh@ppp121-45-37-110.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:55:20 <TheJosh> !password 07:55:23 <TrueBrain> man9o0: check the forum rules 07:55:29 <TrueBrain> @kick TheJosh WRONG CHANNEL 07:55:29 *** TheJosh was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [WRONG CHANNEL] 07:55:46 *** TheJosh [~josh@ppp121-45-37-110.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:55:47 <el_en> man9o0: TTDPatch is still more advanced than OpenTTD. 07:55:50 <TheJosh> sorry 07:55:51 <man9o0> i made a heightmap with a nude pic of kim possible lolol 07:56:12 <Bjarni> <man9o0> hey is it allowed to upload a png to the forums which has a tiny bit of adult content in it?? <-- what do you think? 07:56:20 <TrueBrain> el_en: by whos meassure?! 07:56:29 <el_en> TrueBrain: mine! 07:56:37 <TrueBrain> clearly biased :) 07:56:46 <man9o0> welll.....i mean one could put **this file has adult content** in front of the link lol 07:56:48 <Bjarni> el_en: which means it's not a valid source :P 07:57:15 <man9o0> all it is, is you see trees in the shape of cartoon breasts lol 07:57:19 <Bjarni> man9o0: that can be translated as "To all schoolkids: click here" 07:57:23 *** reldred [~richard@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:57:41 <man9o0> yes true..but arent most of the ppl in the forum over 18?? 07:57:55 <Bjarni> how should we know? 07:57:59 <man9o0> true 07:58:12 <man9o0> but kids can get porn off google just by clicking do not filter content 07:58:20 <Bjarni> besides say it's 90%, then 10% would be too young 07:58:29 <man9o0> yes ok 07:58:48 <TheJosh> el_en: TTDPatch may be more advanced, but OpenTTD has more future, and the opportunity to completely escape the old games 07:58:57 <man9o0> hey how is ttdpatch more advanced than openttd?? 07:59:04 <Bjarni> besides if you upload that thing you make it harder for me to avoid Kim Possible >.< 07:59:07 <Cybertinus> man9o0: I think rule 34 is working here? :p 07:59:13 <TheJosh> im just quoting what el_en saied earlier 07:59:20 <man9o0> sorry what is rule 34? 07:59:33 <TheJosh> if it exists, theres porn of it 07:59:36 <Cybertinus> man9o0: "if you can think about it, there is porn of it" 07:59:45 <dihedral> why on earth do you want to run trains over someones green body? 08:00:00 <man9o0> what i liked about ttdpatch is you could adjust the cargo limits for wagons and vehicles 08:00:01 <Bjarni> LOL 08:00:08 <Bjarni> dihedral: good point 08:00:18 <man9o0> i guess i am just sick that way dihedral hehe 08:00:28 <el_en> TheJosh: because maintaining backward-compatibility is a top priority in OpenTTD, its future is inevitably limited by what the map and other structures allow. 08:00:36 <dihedral> man9o0: then create a sick community - but dont misuse the forums for that ^^ 08:01:11 <TheJosh> personally i think porn is utterly inappropriate, no matter what the form 08:01:15 <man9o0> oh i would never misuse the forums i would die of depression if i couldnt discuss ottd!! 08:01:44 <dihedral> TheJosh: i second that 08:01:45 <el_en> TheJosh: but all nudity is not porn. 08:01:49 <Bjarni> man9o0: is Kim Possible worth dying for? 08:01:56 <dihedral> el_en: second that too ^^ 08:02:05 <TheJosh> el_en: but the priorities of OpenTTD can still change if they want to open up the game more. TTDPatch can never get away from TTD simply for technical reasons. 08:02:12 <man9o0> hehe have you seen kim possible lol 08:02:20 <dihedral> anyway - how much porn can it be if it's a landscape? 08:02:27 <TheJosh> and i agree, not all nudity is porn 08:02:29 <man9o0> yes exactly 08:02:30 <dihedral> oh - look that mountain sucks ass! 08:02:35 <man9o0> lolol 08:02:41 <TrueBrain> "<el_en> TheJosh: because maintaining backward-compatibility is a top priority in OpenTTD" <- I like you :) 08:02:49 <TheJosh> but looking at women for your own pleaseure is degrading to them , and degrading to yourself 08:03:03 <dihedral> depends on the woman :-P 08:03:09 <dihedral> some women like it - sadly 08:03:25 <man9o0> actually i tried a nightly build that would not load any of my older scenario files or save games 08:03:34 <TheJosh> its still degrading - they just dont realise it 08:03:41 <man9o0> but i had a patch files mixed in with a different build 08:03:45 <Bjarni> man9o0: and you didn't report it? 08:04:01 <dihedral> man9o0: newer versions of OpenTTD are porn-safe 08:04:26 <man9o0> well..the folder was so mixed and matched that it wasnt worth reporting the error i mixed trunk files with safe build files 08:05:12 <man9o0> i was trying to get the super large map patch to work with build .15xxx 08:05:20 <el_en> TheJosh: do you think women (and men too) have the right to decide what to do with their body? 08:05:21 <Bjarni> some of the first builds for OSX had endian issues and it made a save format of it's own. It was quickly corrected, but without support for the buggy format. That's the only time I can think of where backward compatible broke 08:05:47 <man9o0> there is a mac version of ottd?? 08:05:55 <Bjarni> ... 08:06:09 <el_en> man9o0: of course there is. and an OS/2 version too. 08:06:09 <Bjarni> I ported it in 2004 08:06:25 <man9o0> i thought that the original had a mac feel to it 08:06:30 <Forked> I think one of the few things ottd probably does not run on are the little cars driving around on the planet Mars.. but I'm not 100% sure it wont 08:06:38 <man9o0> wow ppl still use os/2? hehe 08:06:46 <TrueBrain> Forked: just a lack of output :p 08:06:47 <TheJosh> MorphOS... 08:06:58 <Bjarni> SkyOS... 08:07:04 <dihedral> EyeOS 08:07:04 <Forked> Skynet.. 08:07:14 <TrueBrain> TERMINATOR!!! 08:07:20 <Cybertinus> NT 3.51 08:07:21 <man9o0> i thought it was funny that someone had a pda version of ottd 08:07:26 <TheJosh> PSP and iPhone 08:07:41 <Cybertinus> man9o0: I'm running oTTD on my Windows Mobile 6.0 phone ;) 08:07:44 <Bjarni> actually somebody ported OpenTTD to SkyOS. He butchered support for other OSes so we couldn't accept his changes 08:08:10 <man9o0> you must have posted on the thread i was reading then cyber 08:08:47 <man9o0> is skyOS linux? 08:09:03 <man9o0> or a mobile os 08:09:12 <TheJosh> i wouldnt think so if you have to butcher a port to get it to run 08:09:23 <TheJosh> ottd runs on linux native (im runnit it at the moment) 08:10:40 <man9o0> does it run any faster on linux? 08:10:53 <TheJosh> faster than what? 08:10:58 <man9o0> than on windows 08:11:15 <TheJosh> not sure 08:11:26 <Forked> on linux all trains have 5 mph higher speed 08:11:32 <man9o0> haha 08:11:32 <TheJosh> everything runs fast on my computer so I cant sell you 08:11:33 <Forked> (?) 08:12:01 <TheJosh> and yes I already know that ottd doesn't use my quad core properly 08:12:15 <TheJosh> but it only use one core at about 45 % 08:12:41 <man9o0> by the way i should mention that the webbased irc client wont work on IE7 08:13:01 <man9o0> but thats why i also have firefox 08:13:02 <Forked> I blame IE7 08:13:32 <TheJosh> ie is rubbish 08:13:41 <TheJosh> ie = evil 08:13:54 <man9o0> hey how do google bots and msn bots get into the forum? from spyware? 08:14:21 <TheJosh> the bot recognises their user agent and gives them a read-only account 08:14:25 <man9o0> or is that how google searches forums 08:14:31 <TheJosh> i have read some of the source of that forum 08:15:10 <man9o0> the world is overrun with bots 08:15:16 <petern> lol 08:15:19 <TheJosh> i agree 08:15:19 <petern> 09:02 < TheJosh> but looking at women for your own pleaseure is degrading to them , and degrading to yourself 08:15:24 <petern> it's called "nature" 08:15:44 <petern> or, as dihedral might say, it's by design 08:16:15 <TheJosh> petern: its turning sex from a romatinc and emotanally-completing thing into a one-way event that stops a woman being a woman and turns her into an object. 08:16:49 <man9o0> wow 99 users 08:16:55 <petern> it's natural urges, the thing 'designed' to make humans procreate 08:18:07 <TheJosh> but porn is still unnatural 08:18:37 <TheJosh> its satisfaction of youself without any satisfaction for the other person, who in this case doesn't even know you 08:18:38 <el_en> TheJosh: well, the woman on your screen is an object. wouldn't it be even stranger if you started planning a romantic relationship with that woman, and contacted her? 08:18:44 <TheJosh> all she know is that she feels used 08:19:08 <TheJosh> wouldn't it be more natural to have real sex with someone real who your in a romatinc relationship with? 08:19:19 <petern> all she knows is that she probably got paid a bit of money to have her photos taken... 08:19:35 <TheJosh> so she feels like crap 08:19:44 <el_en> TheJosh: how do you know how she feels? 08:19:57 <TheJosh> how do you think she feels? 08:20:22 <petern> why do you think she feels that way? 08:20:43 <TheJosh> how would you feel if you were nothing more to someone but something to make them feel good while at the smae time feeling humilated that the only way to make money is to sell you self? 08:20:43 <petern> are you of the opinion that all women in porn are forced into it? 08:21:12 <el_en> well, in the "behind the scenes" material i've... *cough* ... studied, they seem to be laughing and enjoying themselves. 08:21:13 <TheJosh> so you saying people would _choose_ to sell themself? 08:21:44 <TheJosh> but whats going on in their heads? what has happened to their humanity? 08:21:46 <el_en> TheJosh: what do you base your claim "the only way to make money" on? 08:22:22 <TheJosh> ok im going to ask you a simple questin 08:22:28 <dihedral> even if one woman choses to sell herself in that way, to men it often enough displays _all_ women would like / enjoy that 08:22:55 <dihedral> men quickly believe that the one woman is there for _them_ 08:23:01 <TheJosh> what would you say of someone came up to you in the street and asked for a massage? 08:23:37 <man9o0> why would any man assume that all women think/act/behave the same way? 08:23:40 <dihedral> personally i get annoyed when i have to walk through town and all i get to see are half dressed women on huge posters 08:23:42 <TheJosh> They just walked up to you and wanted a massage. THey dont know you, you dont know them 08:23:47 <el_en> as far as i understand, people sell themselves because *it is a way to earn quite much money in short time*, and leaves a lot of free time to spend on something else. 08:23:59 <dihedral> c'mon - who wants to get close to a breast the size of my head? 08:24:09 <petern> :D 08:24:43 <el_en> TheJosh: i don't understand how this massage thing is related to anything, but ... 08:24:46 <man9o0> it sounds like el_en has sold herself before ^^ 08:24:50 <TheJosh> how would you feel? 08:25:11 <el_en> surprised. 08:25:21 <man9o0> massage or massage parlor?? 08:25:39 <petern> if someone asked me, i'd say no, and generally feel amused 08:25:40 <TheJosh> just a regular massage. This question is completly non-sexual 08:26:00 <TheJosh> So would you give the person the massage? 08:26:08 <petern> surprised, amused, but certainly not humiliated or used 08:26:10 <dihedral> 'massage' is not something i'd give to anybody ^^ 08:26:16 <el_en> depending on person, maybe. 08:26:28 <TheJosh> lets say for a sec that you do give them the massage 08:26:31 <dihedral> message - ok :-P 08:26:33 <petern> okay 08:26:47 <TheJosh> then when your done, they run away straight away 08:27:04 <TheJosh> gone, like a flash in the wind. no "thanks", no cash, nothing 08:27:06 <petern> what if walker or cyclist had bad cramp and needed a leg muscle massaged? 08:27:07 <dihedral> that aint gonna work ^^ 08:27:24 <TheJosh> how would you feel? 08:27:30 <el_en> TheJosh: i'd still feel surprised. 08:27:44 <TheJosh> that you had massaged a stanger and they didn't even thank you? 08:27:45 <petern> el_en, wrong, you're supposed to feel humiliated and used! 08:27:47 <man9o0> i didnt see the beginning of the massage question, are you asking if a woman is selling a massage service to a man? 08:27:53 <TheJosh> petern: stick with me 08:27:55 <TheJosh> i have a point 08:28:04 <dihedral> problem is that a lot of pron / advertisements that head that direction just display a wrong picture 08:28:04 <petern> so do i, hurr hurr 08:28:17 <dihedral> women in generall are not wild after being seen as an 'object' 08:28:25 <petern> that's rubbish 08:28:33 <petern> people viewing porn know full well that it isn't real life 08:28:41 <TheJosh> what if someone else wanted a massage, but again didn't say think you? 08:28:42 <petern> otherwise they wouldn't be viewing porn... 08:28:45 <dihedral> they dont always petern 08:28:46 <TheJosh> what if it was happenign all the time 08:28:52 <petern> sure 08:29:02 <petern> there's the occasional nuthead in every thing 08:29:05 <TheJosh> lets change it. someone comes up to you and takes your car from you 08:29:06 <petern> like gun nuts for eaxmple 08:29:09 <el_en> breathing is immoral. 08:29:18 <TheJosh> they dont say pelase, they dont say think you they just take it 08:29:21 <man9o0> women like attention i think they just dont want to feel embarrased or humiliated 08:29:23 <dihedral> i know enough women who are even discusted at the fact that when they walk past guys, they'll stare at their butts 08:29:33 <TheJosh> not lets multiply that ay 1000. they have taken 1000 of your cars. 08:29:54 <TheJosh> how would you feel? 08:29:57 <el_en> TheJosh: do you acknowledge there might be women (and men) who actually enjoy being naked and watched? 08:30:17 <dihedral> yep - there probably is that 08:30:17 <dihedral> sadly 08:30:22 <dihedral> well 08:30:32 <dihedral> sadly if they feel they have to show that to everybody 08:30:33 <man9o0> that is the basis of the porn industry 08:30:37 <TheJosh> are you sayng enjoy, as in from the depths of their being and their humanity they enjoy it? or are you saying superficcaly enjopy? 08:30:58 <TheJosh> because i think there are peple that do enjoy it 08:31:18 <dihedral> man9o0: the basis of the porn industry is men who want to see what they dont have and dont want to be seen, and pay moeny for that 08:31:19 <TheJosh> but deep down, way at the deepest part of their heart, they hate it, every last minute of it 08:31:34 <petern> dihedral, and i know women who love it 08:31:44 <petern> also 08:31:44 <man9o0> the ones who are enjoying it are the webcam users..the adult entertainment industry is usually only interested in the monitary aspect of it 08:31:48 <petern> WOMEN VIEW PORN TOO 08:31:52 <TheJosh> and with thay I have to go, I have to be somewhere in 15 mins. 08:31:52 <petern> yes 08:31:53 <petern> see 08:32:05 <el_en> TheJosh: how the hell do you know how they feel about it in the deepest part of their heart? 08:32:08 <fonsinchen> Women view different kinds of porn, though 08:32:20 <petern> fonsinchen, depends on the women... and, indeed, depends on the man 08:32:21 <TheJosh> el_en: And you think you do? 08:32:24 <dihedral> sure there are women who like it! does that mean ALL women: nope 08:32:27 <el_en> i gotta go too, let's continue this some other day. 08:32:30 <fonsinchen> on average 08:32:32 <dihedral> does it make it easier for men to distinguish? 08:32:33 <dihedral> nope 08:32:36 <TheJosh> el_en: Its just humainty 08:32:36 <petern> sure there are men who like it! does that mean ALL men: nope 08:32:43 <el_en> TheJosh: no, i don't. but i don't even try to understand woman's thoughts thoroughly. 08:32:44 <petern> i love these stupid arguments 08:32:48 <man9o0> bye josh 08:32:52 <man9o0> bye ellen 08:32:57 <petern> lol 08:32:59 <petern> el_en 08:32:59 <petern> :p 08:33:04 <TheJosh> el_en: Its basic humanity. People want to be loved. Not abused. 08:33:04 <man9o0> one L sorry 08:33:20 <TheJosh> anyway, as I said, I must go. 08:33:26 <dihedral> ^^ 08:33:28 *** TheJosh [~josh@ppp121-45-37-110.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Have a great evening.] 08:33:28 <dihedral> i must not :-D 08:33:41 <dihedral> eh... day's just started ^^ 08:34:05 <el_en> whatta, he was not even from the US. 08:34:08 <man9o0> i cannot sleep today i put all my errands off until today 08:34:40 <man9o0> i assume probably half the ottd players are european 08:34:58 <dihedral> but i must say - i agree with Josh ^^ 08:35:19 <dihedral> yes there are women who like to sell themselves, fine - if they want to - i'd not stop them 08:35:26 <dihedral> does that mean i want to see them? NOPE 08:35:31 <man9o0> what was his point trying to be about massages?? 08:35:39 <dihedral> does it mean i may assume ALL women think that way: NOPE 08:35:51 <dihedral> man9o0: no idea really 08:35:52 <petern> what's your point 08:35:59 <petern> you have no point 08:36:15 <dihedral> my point is that porn often enough makes objects out of people, in both ways 08:36:28 <dihedral> and people dont usually like being seen as an object, but as a person 08:36:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EC7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:37:18 <man9o0> it all depends if you pay someone enough they dont care if they must be an object for their job 08:37:22 <dihedral> i.e. a woman has a face, when i talk with her, she probably will not want me staring at her breasts 08:37:41 <dihedral> man9o0: that's porn industry! 08:37:46 <dihedral> moeny 08:37:47 <man9o0> lol 08:37:49 <dihedral> *money 08:38:15 <dihedral> question would be, would the woman involved do the same thing if no money was involved? 08:38:21 <dihedral> i.e. does he or she really like it? 08:38:31 <petern> well 08:38:31 <dihedral> (well - "he" on the viewing side probably will!!) 08:38:35 <petern> would i work for free? 08:38:37 <petern> fuck no 08:38:37 <man9o0> i dunno i had a next door neighbor who gave a big smile when i looked at her breasts..but only because most of the time i ignore her lol 08:38:41 <petern> you still have NO POINT 08:39:11 <dihedral> petern: you do work for free ^^ 08:39:24 <dihedral> what is this project? you get money for coding stuff for OpenTTD? 08:39:54 <dihedral> petern: a lot of women would see the point ;-) 08:40:17 <man9o0> i thought the openttd project was all volunteer 08:40:36 <petern> this is fun :p 08:40:53 <man9o0> ppl code because they want a good game 08:40:54 <petern> i don't do my paid job for free 08:41:53 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 08:42:20 <man9o0> it seems to me that ottd wouldnt even be any better than it is if the coders were paid, when you are paid you dont do it for fun you do it for work and when you do work for only money's sake, the result is not as good as when you work for the fun of it 08:43:10 <dihedral> petern: no, of course not - but you'd also enjoy doing the job, if no money was involved 08:43:29 <dihedral> i.e. i dont just code for money, i enjoy coding even if i dont get any money for it 08:43:52 <man9o0> so noone wants to see my naked kim possible heightmap? hehehe 08:44:05 <dihedral> shove it up your ass :-P 08:44:10 <man9o0> lolol 08:44:15 <Bjarni> >.< 08:44:18 <man9o0> oivey 08:44:22 <dihedral> :-D 08:44:24 <dihedral> hihi 08:44:31 <petern> dihedral, so 08:44:32 <Bjarni> dihedral: don't say such a thing 08:44:34 <dihedral> man9o0: what dimensions ? 08:44:37 <Bjarni> he will likely enjoy it 08:44:37 <petern> how does KIM POSSIBLE feel? 08:44:46 <petern> *snigger* 08:44:50 <dihedral> petern: looks a bit green ^^ 08:45:07 <man9o0> i have 2, 1024x512 and 512x1024 08:45:14 <petern> lol 08:45:24 <petern> googling "kim possible" images is ... er ... not work safe :D 08:45:31 <man9o0> one is greyscale, the other i left in full color png 08:45:32 <Bjarni> man9o0: you are not making this easy for you 08:45:40 <dihedral> man9o0: then shove the maps up your arse but sideways :-D 08:46:35 <Bjarni> <petern> googling "kim possible" images is ... er ... not work safe :D <-- looks like there are more people out there like man9o0 08:46:43 <man9o0> its funny to look at a map made from porn i laughed so hard 08:46:44 <Bjarni> either that or he is really busy 08:47:14 <Bjarni> and obsessed 08:47:27 <man9o0> i forgot where i found the pics to be honest 08:47:36 <petern> besides 08:47:41 <man9o0> i think its easier to find lara croft pics 08:47:49 <petern> people have been posting pictures of george's LVs for ages... 08:48:17 <man9o0> what is LV 08:48:24 <Bjarni> Level 5 08:48:33 <Bjarni> :P 08:48:55 <man9o0> and that is...?? porn?? 08:48:56 <Bjarni> actually it's "Long Vehicles" 08:49:00 <man9o0> oh ahhahhah 08:49:17 <Bjarni> and it contains a few pictures of nudity in the bus windows 08:49:17 <petern> there's a censored version of it... 08:49:34 <man9o0> i love the articulated vehicles, about time a 100 passenger bus was invented 08:49:46 <dihedral> there is more to a person than just their body and / or outward appearance ^^ 08:50:00 <Bjarni> yeah 08:50:06 <Bjarni> like inner sexual organs 08:50:16 <man9o0> how on earth can you see the windows of ttd bus?!? 08:51:06 <dihedral> and there is more to life than sex 08:51:13 <dihedral> e.g. OpenTTD ^^ 08:51:28 <man9o0> i could probably bulldoze the trees that show the naughty parts of the heightmap lol 08:52:23 <man9o0> it was so fun for me to be able to create a heightmap that i got a little carried away 08:53:18 <TrueBrain> I think this is the longest this channel was on one subject ... you don't have to be brilliant to guess what the subject is, in such cases :p 08:54:12 <man9o0> it seems that when the topic turns to the south so to speak, it does not mind the warm weather hehehe 08:54:44 <Bjarni> man9o0: http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/grf/83/logo.png 08:54:54 <man9o0> true are you in america or europe? 08:55:04 <Bjarni> well... not actually IN the windows, but close enough 08:55:21 <Bjarni> I never really stared at those sprites so I couldn't remember details :P 08:56:57 <man9o0> that actually looks really amazing 08:58:05 <man9o0> i wish i knew how to create grfs 08:59:10 <man9o0> does anyone know if its possible to make ttdpatch work in vista? only because there seem to be more tools available for patching it 09:00:33 <man9o0> i think very soon i need to go also 09:02:46 <man9o0> only 28 users on the #tycoon channel 09:05:26 <man9o0> is openttdcoop a different client? 09:06:26 <petern> no 09:06:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.210.164] has joined #openttd 09:07:01 <man9o0> hi herzog 09:08:09 <man9o0> well im out night everyone 09:08:41 *** man9o0 [~Miranda@d193-224-133.home3.cgocable.net] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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I made a C application on which gcc fails .... it runs ... for ever .... 09:49:01 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 09:59:11 <petern> well done 10:01:07 <FauxFaux> Boost spirit, by any chance? 10:02:16 <TrueBrain> C application .. and he asks about Boost .. 10:02:37 <TrueBrain> either way, 100% my own app, no libs besides glibc 10:02:43 <petern> only the spirit of 10:03:28 <TrueBrain> weird GCC ... when I remove a goto, it works :p 10:09:58 <TrueBrain> time to celebrate Queensday 10:10:00 <TrueBrain> bye all :) 10:10:32 <FauxFaux> Pfft, nobody actually uses C, they just think they are. 10:21:30 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 10:27:21 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:29:57 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 11:04:07 <Alberth> Adding some documentation. My main question is whether the @defgroup comments are good positioned (in the middle of the file)? http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/diffs/doxy.patch 11:05:01 <Alberth> sorry, wrong channel (but comments are welcome of course) 11:06:18 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.16.22.246] has joined #openttd 11:11:28 <petern> s/good/well/ 11:13:14 <Alberth> yes, that is better. thanks 11:14:38 *** rmCowboy [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:19:28 *** rmCowboy [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:29:14 <Bjarni> <FauxFaux> Pfft, nobody actually uses C, they just think they are. <-- not true. I have coded stuff in ANSI C and I know when I code ANSI C or the stuff people usually call C 11:29:34 <Bjarni> I prefer whatever GCC accepts as .c 11:44:51 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 11:53:01 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:54:26 <FauxFaux> Actually, normally it's people who think they're coding in c++ but are actually just using one or two c++ functions on top of their pointer mess. 11:55:32 <Bjarni> C++ != C 11:57:02 <FauxFaux> I'm well aware of that, I was just applying the argument backwards. :) 11:57:16 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:57:27 *** Hirundo is now known as Swallow 11:59:32 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1042:4279:a262:2f07] has joined #openttd 11:59:35 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:08:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.210.164] has joined #openttd 12:12:03 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16188 /trunk/src/strings.cpp: -Fix [FS#2874] (r16124): printing the first 4 bytes worth of a 8 byte integer causes some unwanted side effects when the system is not little-endian. 12:13:26 <welshdragon> does anyone know how to convert from a pdf to a word document?\ 12:18:03 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=785876#p785876 <- :-D 12:18:21 <dihedral> welshdragon, use Acrobat Professional ^^ 12:19:34 <welshdragon> dihedral: er, no 12:19:42 <welshdragon> i'm not forking out money 12:19:51 <welshdragon> i was thinking of freeware 12:21:16 <glx> print, scan, ocr ;) 12:21:46 <dihedral> glx, LOL 12:21:50 <dihedral> copy paste? 12:21:54 <dihedral> also possible 12:21:59 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22:02 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 12:22:12 <glx> ocr can keep the formatting 12:22:13 <dihedral> but no - there is no other method of editing a pdf afaik 12:22:30 <dihedral> glx, can it? 12:22:42 <dihedral> the only ocr stuff i ever worked with sucked big time 12:25:20 <welshdragon> dihedral: 2007alain2007 is such a n00b 12:25:49 <dihedral> hihi 12:25:55 <dihedral> i still enjoyed my printf line ^^ 12:36:21 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227065035.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:36:32 *** TheJosh [~josh@ppp121-45-37-110.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 12:38:23 *** TheJosh [~josh@ppp121-45-37-110.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has left #openttd [] 12:55:32 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 13:06:01 *** rmCowboy [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:08:05 <Bjarni> do anybody have a huge savegame with lots of vehicles? 13:08:14 <Bjarni> I need to do some benchmarking on something 13:08:21 <petern> does 13:08:27 <petern> does anybody 13:10:29 <planetmaker> Bjarni, you may want to look at the #openttdcoop archive 13:10:39 <Bjarni> good idea 13:10:43 <planetmaker> http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 13:11:46 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeje73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 13:12:06 <planetmaker> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Hall_of_Fame#gameid_89 <--- 1k trains 13:12:06 <Belugas> tounm te doom 13:12:20 *** Taisteluorava [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:13:00 <planetmaker> or did you mean vehicles as in road vehicles? 13:13:22 <welshdragon> bum de bum 13:13:31 <planetmaker> dum di dei 13:13:31 <glx> he just want a high CPU save ;) 13:13:44 <dihedral> 10 ships + yapf ? :P 13:13:58 <planetmaker> oh, there are nicer ones than #89 then... our last japanese game :) 13:14:25 <welshdragon> 250 rv savegame? 13:15:20 <planetmaker> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_131_-_140#gameid_132 <-- I couldn't join with 2GHz core2duo 13:16:31 <welshdragon> sigh 13:16:34 <Bjarni> I meant a normal game that lasted for a long time hence a lot of vehicles 13:16:36 <welshdragon> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=42254&p=785900#p785900 < here we go again 13:16:52 <welshdragon> Bjarni: give me 2 minutes 13:17:29 <planetmaker> depends what kind of editing you want. 13:17:46 <Bjarni> I'm looking at overall performance 13:17:54 <planetmaker> then #132 is fine :) 13:18:08 <planetmaker> japanese set is a bit cpu intensive ;) 13:18:43 <welshdragon> Bjarni: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=43266&p=785902#p785902 13:19:53 <Bjarni> welshdragon: got it. However I'm not sure if the forum should be used as a file buffer ^^ 13:20:10 <welshdragon> deleted :0 13:20:18 <welshdragon> * ;) 13:20:19 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f050242162.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:27:43 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227065035.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:27:43 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 13:29:05 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeje73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 13:29:24 <Bjarni> welshdragon: nice savegame. It pops up with some compatible grf window and then it asserts with disconnected vehicle 13:29:41 <welshdragon> Bjarni: teehee 13:30:10 <Bjarni> planetmaker: I can't download game 132. The download doesn't start :( 13:33:38 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db00c6d.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 13:37:10 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 13:38:16 <Belugas> whouhouh!!1 I did not expect that when i tried to revive interest in town funding patch... a battle over dihedral and Alain 13:38:23 <Belugas> bloood!!! 13:38:27 <Belugas> I demand blood! 13:39:38 <dihedral> hihi 13:39:42 <dihedral> wont be mine 13:39:49 <planetmaker> hm... 13:39:58 <dihedral> + the battle was in the air all the time 13:40:07 <dihedral> at least on my side 13:40:40 <dihedral> Belugas, you could split that part off into another thread? Alain vs dih :-P 13:41:05 <glx> dihedral: next time use %c in your printf ;) 13:41:11 <Belugas> ain't author of the thread, nor having moderator rights 13:41:23 <dihedral> what a shame 13:41:31 <Belugas> luckily for a lot of people, by the way... 13:41:34 <dihedral> i'd really love that thread title :-P 13:41:38 <dihedral> Belugas, hehe yep 13:41:39 <dihedral> :-D 13:41:45 <dihedral> and sadly to all others 13:42:06 <Belugas> glx, by the way, i gave you credit for your work on town names, on forums :) 13:42:15 <glx> I saw :) 13:42:16 <Belugas> i was feeling a bit poetic, yesterday evening 13:42:22 <dihedral> haha 13:42:32 <glx> and the guy didn't read the spec completely 13:42:35 *** Markk_ [~markk@shell.etttretresju.net] has joined #openttd 13:42:38 *** tosse_ [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 13:42:38 *** mizipzor_ [mizipzor@titan.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 13:42:41 <Belugas> indeed not 13:43:07 <Belugas> i suspect he only looked at the grfs laying around 13:43:07 <planetmaker> Bjarni, download works here 13:43:33 <Belugas> but i believe he is wiling to work on it 13:43:34 <glx> btw I like the example given by DaleStan, there is indeed no limit when you understand how it works :) 13:43:42 <Belugas> yup 13:43:52 <Belugas> the russians understood that long time ago, iirc 13:44:17 *** Markk [~markk@shell.etttretresju.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:44:33 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:44:33 *** mizipzor [mizipzor@titan.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:44:53 <planetmaker> yep DaleStan's advice is always crisp but to the point :) 13:45:01 <Forked> the internet .. the argument .. perhaps this place should have it's name changed? :) 13:45:16 <dihedral> world wide help 13:46:29 <planetmaker> Belugas, your quote in the newobjects thread is broken... 13:46:46 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:47:23 <Belugas> fixed 13:47:25 <Belugas> thanks 13:47:41 <planetmaker> no problem :) 13:56:14 <Bjarni> planetmaker: odd. Failed in firefox and works in safari 13:56:44 <Bjarni> now I jinxed it. It stalled at 647k 13:57:17 <dihedral> anybody here familiar with redmine (www.redmine.org) 13:57:44 <Bjarni> what's redmine? A jewel mine? 13:57:46 <Bjarni> :P 13:58:23 <dihedral> project management system (like gforge) 13:58:27 <dihedral> or sf 13:58:49 <planetmaker> dihedral, works for us :) 13:59:02 <planetmaker> seems to be quite quick. 13:59:03 <dihedral> you use it somewhere already? 13:59:05 <planetmaker> yes 13:59:10 <dihedral> :-) 13:59:19 <dihedral> where? 13:59:22 <planetmaker> http://ammler.ch:3000/ 13:59:28 <dihedral> lol 13:59:38 <planetmaker> just two day old or so. Testing it basically. But really looks good 14:00:04 <planetmaker> seems to work nicely with external repositories. 14:01:56 <planetmaker> and it "feels" faster than say indefero or trac 14:02:27 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm27.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 14:03:18 <Belugas> what's to managing projects? 14:03:20 <Belugas> DO IT NOW 14:03:24 <Belugas> FOR YESTERDAY 14:03:26 <Belugas> that's it 14:03:28 <dihedral> yay 14:03:33 <Belugas> a new one? 14:03:34 <dihedral> Belugas for the win 14:03:35 <Belugas> pile it up 14:11:57 <dihedral> hehe - that did me well :-) 14:14:16 <dihedral> harr harr 14:14:22 * dihedral feels chuffed 14:18:42 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeje73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 14:23:01 <petern> up yer chuff 14:23:13 <dihedral> ^^ 14:24:25 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db00c6d.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: brb] 14:28:13 *** Netsplit over, joins: Singaporekid, @Belugas, jonty-comp, Lachie_, ecke, Frostregen, sigmund, phidah, ccfreak2k, db48x (+11 more) 14:32:35 *** qkr [plaiho@miranda.dc.turkuamk.fi] has joined #openttd 14:33:09 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:33:26 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 14:34:36 <qkr> hi 14:37:07 <qkr> why is there no train cars to transport wood on the desert terrain in 2cc newgrf trainset? 14:37:12 <Alberth> hai 14:37:47 <Alberth> do we even have wood in sub-tropical? 14:38:17 <qkr> only after I constructed a lumber mill 14:39:06 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f050242162.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:39:18 <dihedral> Alberth, yes... 14:40:41 <Alberth> dihedral: Clearly, I should play OpenTTD more often 14:41:08 <dihedral> i dont play either ^^ 14:45:55 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@john-michael-murray.um.maine.edu] has joined #openttd 14:46:07 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f050242162.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:46:07 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 14:47:28 <Belugas> qkr, tried to play same climate without 2cc? 14:47:34 <Belugas> a new game that is... 14:48:48 <qkr> nope, that would probably work 14:49:04 <Belugas> and have you read the "eventual" README file that came with the set? maybe it might be interesting 14:49:37 <qkr> no I downloaded it thru the game's content management site thing 14:50:28 <planetmaker> hm... maybe OpenTTD should include a readme file reader :D 14:50:39 <qkr> it's not a big problem, road vehicles can still transport wood 14:51:00 <dihedral> not reading the readme file is a big problem ^^ 14:51:04 <dihedral> for us at least :-P 14:51:37 <glx> maybe you need to refit a wagon 14:51:39 <qkr> there's no readme, it's a .tar file and it only contains license.txt 14:52:09 <qkr> I did check refits too, no wood available 14:53:09 <planetmaker> qkr, but it gives you a link to a website. 14:53:20 <planetmaker> which is the readme of that set 14:53:58 * Belugas nods 14:54:55 <qkr> I found the website thru google, no info on that subject though 14:56:15 <planetmaker> might be... then tell the authors that they should make such wagon available. :) 14:56:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EC7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:58:56 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=28051&start=1640 14:59:04 <planetmaker> ^^ that's the related thread :) 15:00:31 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:02:48 <qkr> well, someone had already reported the same prob on that thread, hope the authors read it 15:03:33 <planetmaker> qkr, actually, the flatbed wagon and the gondola can be refitted to wood 15:03:41 <planetmaker> they only tell you to be water carriers, though :D 15:03:53 <planetmaker> the author reads it. 15:04:24 <planetmaker> as can be the cargo sprinter 15:04:41 <planetmaker> and the class 153 and vt133 railbusses 15:04:51 <qkr> ok thanks I will try that then 15:06:37 <planetmaker> hehe. That's funny indeed. Transporting water on a flatbed wagon. I wonder... :) 15:06:58 <dihedral> wow - i just typed cd mozilla.com (in my browsers location bar!!) 15:07:01 <dihedral> snap 15:10:41 * Bjarni notes that dihedral next step is to claim having coded mozilla.com 15:10:55 <dihedral> pffft 15:10:58 <dihedral> i aint that stupid ^^ 15:11:11 <planetmaker> I posted a reminder to that thread that the wagons have wrong cargo. 15:11:15 <Bjarni> not yet :P 15:11:28 <dihedral> lol 15:11:29 <dihedral> thanks 15:11:30 <dihedral> ^^ 15:13:03 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet591.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 15:45:24 <Belugas> my ears hurt 15:45:33 <Belugas> too much conference call 15:45:35 <Belugas> +s 15:45:39 * dihedral pats Belugas' ears 15:52:35 <dihedral> @seen Rubidium 15:52:36 <DorpsGek> dihedral: Rubidium was last seen in #openttd 2 days, 20 hours, 8 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <Rubidium> pavel1269: by pasting it here? 15:52:38 <dihedral> heh 15:52:56 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 15:55:42 <dihedral> "first, i'd like a patch in ottd trunk and I don't understand how to decide devs to implement this in "stable" 7.x" <- LOL 15:56:09 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3088.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 15:58:47 *** Crazy_Transport [Matt@67-61-240-50.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 16:01:24 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@john-michael-murray.um.maine.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:15:01 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5B0D2F09.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:15:23 <glx> there are no patches in trunk ;) 16:16:17 <dihedral> :-D 16:16:43 <dihedral> i esp like "how to deceive devs to implement" :-P 16:17:11 * Belugas activates Lunch patch 16:18:29 <Belugas> "becuse i dont want to be called stupid any more then i alredy have been" 16:18:34 <Belugas> toum te doum 16:19:37 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:25:01 <dihedral> hihi 16:25:05 <dihedral> do i win? :-P 16:25:58 <petern> oh cock 16:26:06 <petern> this guy made his webservice return a dataset 16:26:27 <Sacro> hehee 16:26:28 <Sacro> nice 16:27:42 * Belugas works that way too, although we do not call it webservice, but rather Remote Queries 16:36:12 * Alberth activates remote query on the tastiness of Belugas' lunch patch 16:37:53 <planetmaker> does finger work on Belugas' lunch? 16:38:21 <Sacro> you're fingering his dinner? 16:38:27 <planetmaker> finger lunch@belugas.world 16:38:32 <planetmaker> :P 16:39:34 <frosch123> hmm, working decease. yesterday I thought it was thursday, today I think it's friday 16:39:36 <Belugas> keep your dirty fingers out of my lunch! 16:48:06 <planetmaker> :) 16:48:35 <petern> Belugas, depends what you're returning. 16:48:43 <petern> if it's a set of data, then fine 16:49:06 <petern> if you're using a dataset instead of a struct... urgh :) 16:49:48 <Belugas> right 16:49:51 <petern> (even for a set of data i'd probably use an array of structs, though, heh) 16:50:07 <Belugas> that sounds a bit strange, to say the least. 16:50:21 <Belugas> datasets are more flexible for that, i'd say 16:50:34 <Belugas> it cold be one row of one column 16:50:36 <Belugas> cold 16:50:37 <petern> yeah. generally you don't need flexibility there 16:50:40 <Belugas> could 16:51:34 <Belugas> welll... ou system works on returning results from queries. those queries could be select, update, delete or even insert 16:51:43 <petern> of course a generic "get some data please" call would be fine with a dataset 16:52:15 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:52:34 <Belugas> the remote engine knows even on which database to load up/process the incoming query 16:53:06 <Belugas> so, it's like... sending a query number, a few parameters, and expect results accordingly 16:53:57 <Belugas> the server picks the number, load the matching query, execute it and sends dataset if required, or just acknoledgment of the work been done 17:06:54 *** paul__ [~paul@host86-145-28-101.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:07:16 *** paul__ [~paul@host86-145-28-101.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:07:17 *** paul__ [~paul@host86-145-28-101.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 17:07:48 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-145-28-101.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:14:40 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 17:15:52 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8a01.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:16:31 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [] 17:16:44 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host241-236-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:17:02 <Wolf01> hi 17:19:51 <Alberth> hello Wolf01 17:23:14 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8a01.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 17:26:01 <Eddi|zuHause> <el_en> man9o0: TTDPatch is still more advanced than OpenTTD. <- ever heard of "ÃŒberholen ohne einzuholen"? 17:28:31 <petern> i haven't 17:28:53 <Belugas> neither 17:28:57 <Belugas> me 17:28:59 <Belugas> me neither 17:29:33 <Belugas> is it painful? 17:29:54 <petern> pom te pom 17:36:01 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16189 /trunk/src/ (tile_cmd.h widget.cpp widget_type.h): -Doc: Additions and improvement of (mainly) nested widgets/widget-parts doxygen docs. 17:39:56 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas/petern: it was a propaganda campaign in east germany. because west germany had a stronger economy, the government feared social unrest. so they started a campaign "overtaking without catching up", where they picked totally random stuff (like production of strawberry marmelade), and pointed out how east germany surpassed west germany in that category 17:41:23 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 17:43:24 <frosch123> yeah, OTTD is far better than TTDP. Just count the lines of C++ code :p 17:45:02 <petern> just check the coding style ;) 17:46:47 * petern ponders arrange his speakers in front of his keyboard instead of in front of his monitor 17:47:07 <petern> or getting another set :p 17:51:14 <Belugas> how much do you play on the computer vs on the keyboard 17:51:24 <Belugas> if roughly the same, i'd say a new set :) 17:51:45 <Belugas> thanks, Eddi|zuHause. it makes indeed sens 17:54:55 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 17:55:06 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:59:00 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:00:44 * petern plays with amsynth's random button 18:03:34 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04:28 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04:40 *** Hirundo is now known as Swallow 18:06:14 <Belugas> someone told you, and i just repeat it: "you're cruel"! 18:07:51 *** Crazy_Transport [Matt@67-61-240-50.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 18:08:59 <petern> :/ 18:12:49 <Belugas> that does not mean i'm not happy for you enjoying it ;) 18:13:04 <Belugas> it's just so freakingly tempting to run home... 18:16:34 <Eddi|zuHause> tomorrow is a holiday... everybody is in "friday" mood today over here... 18:17:06 <Eddi|zuHause> meaning they stop working after 13:00 ;) 18:18:32 *** const86 [const@tower.mimas.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:18:45 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:23:40 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:25:39 <Bjarni> tomorrow is a day off here too 18:26:03 <Bjarni> so I have all day to spend at uni doing stuff I need to do before next week 18:26:07 <Bjarni> lucky me :s 18:27:46 <Eddi|zuHause> it's funny how on the "Day of Work", nobody is working ;) 18:29:59 <petern> hilarious 18:34:23 <petern> bah 18:34:31 <petern> why did i install flash 18:34:35 <petern> everything is so slow now :p 18:43:52 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause: that's because it's the union day or "the day of the workers", not "the day of work" 18:44:09 <Bjarni> unions work hard on telling that work is bad and that nobody should work 18:44:22 <Eddi|zuHause> it's called "Tag der Arbeit", not "Tag der Arbeiter" in german 18:44:38 <Bjarni> Germans fucks up everything :P 18:45:52 <Belugas> they do? 18:45:56 <Belugas> lovely people! 18:46:48 <petern> deathmetal-drumkit 18:46:50 <petern> oh i see 18:47:46 <Bjarni> I know about a time when some train driver called in sick. The railroad called another one and asked if he could use his day off on this. He would get another day off later instead. He had to say no because the union would punish him for driving too many days during a single month. It wasn't due to safety but because workers shouldn't work too much 18:48:08 <Bjarni> the fact that he would get the 1st, 2nd and 3rd days of the next month off didn't matter 18:48:29 <Bjarni> the railroad was screwed and I'm not sure they found another driver 18:49:22 <Bjarni> the sad thing is that this particular driver who had to say no actually wanted to drive 18:49:41 <Bjarni> Unions are good, but damn do they break a lot of stuff too 18:50:30 <welshdragon> Bjarni: hence when i worked in the libraries i wasn't part of any union 18:51:36 <Bjarni> like the union for stewardesses. They went on strike because they didn't get a raise that was big enough. They have a monthly income of around â¬6800 18:52:21 <Bjarni> the airline then decided to hire Asian crew for the planes going to Asia. They only need â¬1400/month for the same work and they have the same training 18:52:31 <welshdragon> hehe 18:52:43 <Bjarni> then the union went on strike again 18:53:10 <Bjarni> telling that the airline were only allowed to hire people in Scandinavia 18:53:16 <Bjarni> they lost that claim in court 18:53:50 <welshdragon> unions get too big for thei boots 18:53:58 <Bjarni> now they had to reduce salaries. It was either that or bankruptcy. 18:55:16 <Bjarni> I'm a member of a union. They help me if I miss payment or similar stuff 18:55:29 <Bjarni> but AFAIK the engineering union never went on strike 18:56:51 <Eddi|zuHause> in france they go on strike way more often than in the rest of europe ;) 18:56:55 <Bjarni> welshdragon: aren't you a bit daring when you decided not to be a member of a union? 18:57:42 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause: that's because the French guys are quite good at standing in a crowd doing nothing when that group have a common enemy 18:57:55 <Bjarni> :P 18:58:42 * petern is not a union member 18:59:45 <welshdragon> Bjarni: it was my choice 18:59:51 *** Jerre [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:00:21 <Bjarni> but what if they decided to cheat you? 19:00:28 <welshdragon> and i had support anyway 19:02:57 <Bjarni> Considering I learned rules and laws after I joined the union I learned that I have been cheated in all jobs I had before I joined the union 19:03:32 <Bjarni> worst case I lost a combined income of â¬8000 over the years >.< 19:04:25 <Bjarni> that would be around £7200 19:04:27 <Belugas> crude claws 19:04:35 <Bjarni> that's kind of a lot of money 19:04:40 <Bjarni> and I can do nothing about it now 19:04:49 <Belugas> prude pawns 19:05:50 <Bjarni> that's more than payment for the union from the day I finish uni until the day I retire 19:06:55 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has joined #openttd 19:07:09 <petern> what do you mean by "cheated"? heh 19:07:22 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:07:26 <Bjarni> I mean doing some work and not getting paid/getting paid way too little 19:07:51 <petern> don't need a union to see that you're not being paid... 19:08:20 <Belugas> hehe 19:08:25 * Belugas agrees 19:08:27 <Bjarni> but I needed the work experience as part of the education 19:08:32 <Bjarni> so I was stuck >.< 19:08:51 <Bjarni> it was for a limited time though 19:09:14 <petern> work experience as part of education is generally unpaid 19:09:25 <frosch123> hmm, Bjarni has limited time on this planet 19:09:25 <Bjarni> not here 19:09:45 <Bjarni> ? 19:11:04 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8a01.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:11:41 <Bjarni> hmm 19:11:50 <Bjarni> actually I need to pay more for the union 19:12:02 <Bjarni> mixed up some tax thing 19:12:58 <Bjarni> <frosch123> hmm, Bjarni has limited time on this planet <-- what do you mean by that statement? 19:13:18 <frosch123> Bjarni: no need to calculate anything, just compare the equatorial length of your boss at work and the boss of the union 19:13:47 * jonty-comp bans 2007Alain2007 for being a general arse 19:14:20 <Bjarni> equatorial length? 19:14:27 <frosch123> Bjarni: even undead have limited time on this planet 19:14:51 <frosch123> s/length/perimeter/ 19:14:56 <petern> oh look, firefox crashed again 19:15:03 <jonty-comp> surprise surprise 19:15:07 <Bjarni> somehow I think you are pulling my leg 19:15:25 <Bjarni> because I feel you are speaking garbage right now 19:15:34 * Alberth looks, and finds firefox still running at the other desktop 19:15:58 * petern disables flash 19:16:02 <petern> that'll learn ay 19:16:05 <Alberth> wise move 19:16:05 <Bjarni> I don't get the stability of firefox 19:16:12 <Bjarni> it never crashes for me 19:16:24 <frosch123> Bjarni: if you wonder whether the money you pay for the union is too much, just compare whether your boss or the boss of the union is more fat 19:16:32 <Bjarni> yet I know somebody where it crashes every time it finishes printing a page 19:16:49 <Bjarni> say hello to printing a web page containing 3 pages on paper :P 19:18:14 <Bjarni> I don't think â¬27/month is a lot for a union membership when I'm in a full time job 19:18:50 * Belugas is multiplexed on 3 different computers 19:19:01 <Belugas> dos it make my salary 3 times highter? 19:19:03 <Belugas> guess not... 19:19:26 <petern> if you didn't â¬27/month, what would happen? 19:19:27 <Bjarni> then call your union 19:19:29 <petern> +pay 19:19:54 <Bjarni> petern: at first nothing but then I would be the first to go if the company have to downsize 19:20:11 <petern> had 19:20:33 <Bjarni> also being a member of that union gives discounts of certain stuff 19:20:50 <Bjarni> like insurance and petrol/diesel 19:21:09 <Bjarni> don't ask me why that's a union benefit, but it is 19:21:31 <petern> heh 19:21:55 <Bjarni> free VISA too 19:22:03 <petern> as i work in a tiny company, i don't think union membership would benefit me 19:22:05 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16190 /trunk/src/ (widget.cpp widget_type.h): -Codechange: Allow stacking of nested widgets. 19:22:08 <Bjarni> no fees for having the card 19:22:12 <Belugas> no free American Express? 19:22:43 <Bjarni> American Express isn't really used here since I'm not in America 19:22:46 <petern> stacking, eh? 19:22:56 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16191 /trunk/src/order_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Added nested widgets of one order window. 19:23:21 <Alberth> yeah, you don't want to know what people do with widgets :) 19:23:47 <Bjarni> cheaper loans for houses and cars 19:23:52 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:24:01 <petern> heh, yeah, we had 5 amex cards go through today 19:24:02 <Bjarni> discount for furniture (why?) 19:24:32 <Belugas> was me doing tests, petern! 19:24:36 <petern> hehe 19:31:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-152-18.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:38:42 *** Jerre [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:40:04 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 19:52:36 *** Azrael [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:55:24 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm27.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:58:48 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:09:28 *** qkr [plaiho@miranda.dc.turkuamk.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:14:06 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16:02 *** Laurens [~Laurens@ip255-198-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 20:16:55 <Laurens> somebody on? 20:17:22 <welshdragon> yep 20:17:23 <Laurens> ok :) 20:17:41 <Laurens> who wants to play a 2player multiplayer game? 20:18:15 <TrueBrain> hmm, a game of Quake .. sounds a good idea yes 20:18:17 <Laurens> :( 20:18:20 <Laurens> ok 20:18:24 <frosch123> 2 is not very multi 20:18:30 <Laurens> no i know 20:18:38 <Laurens> but dualing is cool 20:19:08 <Laurens> you know, i live in Apeldoorn we have been terrorised this morning :O 20:19:22 <TrueBrain> I just watched the movies ....... 20:19:24 <TrueBrain> really insane 20:19:32 <Laurens> yeah 20:19:50 <TrueBrain> not sure if I can ever stand normal in a corwd again :s 20:19:55 <Laurens> that black suzuki swift driver is almost dead :( 20:20:01 <TrueBrain> he is dead 20:20:02 <Laurens> he needs to be punished 20:20:03 <TrueBrain> braindead that is 20:20:05 <Laurens> yea 20:20:15 <Laurens> i was there 20:20:18 <Laurens> i saw it 20:20:33 <TrueBrain> my condolences 20:20:41 <Laurens> tyvm ;) 20:20:42 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 20:20:53 <TrueBrain> the movies look like that of a movie :s 20:20:54 <TrueBrain> insane ... 20:21:03 <Laurens> yeah 20:21:17 <Laurens> my friend is still in shock :0 20:21:22 <TrueBrain> I was walking in Amsterdam at that moment ... people were really like: WHAT?! 20:21:45 <Laurens> yeah i know 20:22:14 <Laurens> in the crowd everyone screamed that there were explosives in the car :O 20:22:28 <Laurens> i was shocked by that :) 20:22:37 <Laurens> i thought we were being blowed up :P 20:22:48 <Laurens> are you Dutch anyway? 20:22:49 <TrueBrain> lucky for you, you are still alive :) 20:23:03 <planetmaker> phew... I'm happy to not have been there. My condolences 20:23:15 <Laurens> tyvm 20:23:28 <Laurens> all the channels on TV are sending out the movie 20:23:33 <Laurens> the whole day yet 20:23:35 <TrueBrain> hehe, they considered closing Amsterdam (all parties and stuff) .. then they realised the amount of people who were walking there :p 20:24:00 <Laurens> 600.000 :) 20:24:09 <Laurens> Are you Dutch anyway? 20:24:22 <planetmaker> me? No 20:24:29 <Laurens> ok :) 20:24:34 <Laurens> TrueBrain? 20:24:53 <TrueBrain> anyway, one of the most depressing queensday I have had in my life .. 20:25:06 <TrueBrain> nowhere there was really getting a party done ... well .. I am at home already, says enough :p 20:25:16 <dihedral> Laurens, if he wanted to tell he would have said the first time you asked ^^ 20:25:33 <planetmaker> the one I was experiencing a few years was just a great party day. Whole town in orange. Just amazing :) 20:25:48 <TrueBrain> normally that is true 20:25:53 <TrueBrain> today .. not so much :p 20:25:56 <TrueBrain> lot of people confused .. 20:26:01 <TrueBrain> in Amsterdam normalyl everyone walks in 20:26:11 <TrueBrain> now ... it was a mix of people wanting to get home, and people not knowing what was going on :p 20:27:48 <planetmaker> that's weired. Prime news Germany don't have the Appeldorn incident in their head news... :S 20:27:57 <TrueBrain> that is just ... not considering 20:28:00 <dihedral> bbc does 20:28:13 <planetmaker> yeah. Somewhen near the end of news... 20:28:31 <Laurens> i've seen 1 guy died... was sad... can't believe it... 20:28:45 <Laurens> glad i didn't know him :) 20:28:52 <planetmaker> he 20:29:08 <TrueBrain> nevertheless .. it is sick .. and a thing you hope nobody ever witnesses ... 20:29:22 <Laurens> yeah... 20:29:51 <Laurens> Queen Beatrix is crying all day long :S 20:30:02 <TrueBrain> she is crying when 'talking to the people' 20:30:15 <Laurens> All the flags in Apeldoorn are half-pole now :P 20:30:23 <TrueBrain> everywhere, for that matter :p 20:30:24 <Bjarni> <Laurens> i've seen 1 guy died... was sad... can't believe it... <-- the news said 4 people died (was on like 20 minutes ago) 20:30:30 <TrueBrain> Bjarni: make that 5 20:30:35 <TrueBrain> including the driver, makes it 6 20:30:47 <planetmaker> heard 4 deaths reported, too 20:30:51 <Bjarni> I don't care for the well being of a driver doing stuff like that 20:31:06 <Laurens> Bjarni: I know i didn't see the other 4 because we had to go away from the attack place... 20:31:12 <planetmaker> na, I wished him alive. Lifelong prison is better than quick death 20:31:15 <Laurens> Glad i could get away 20:31:18 <TrueBrain> sick thing .. it was a hit against the queen ... those other people had NOTHING to do with it :( 20:31:27 *** const86 [~const@62.106.104.10] has joined #openttd 20:31:29 <planetmaker> yeah :( 20:31:31 <Bjarni> prisons are like hotels today though :s 20:31:38 <Bjarni> Laurens: you were present at the time? 20:31:41 <Laurens> :D 20:31:47 <TrueBrain> he can better be dead ... I don't want to pay for people who do things like that :p 20:31:49 <Laurens> yea 20:31:59 <Laurens> i have seen the accident 20:32:06 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:32:31 <Bjarni> I thought accidents was... well accidents. This appears to be on purpose, hence and incident, not an accident 20:34:08 <Laurens> Now they're saying the driver's in coma... :S 20:35:00 <Bjarni> just rewinded the news. They say very little 20:35:02 <Laurens> but,.., enough of this now..... let's talk about something fun... 20:35:08 <Laurens> like OpenTTD :D 20:35:09 <TrueBrain> I agree Laurens 20:35:27 <TrueBrain> (and yes, of course I am Dutch :p) 20:35:29 <Bjarni> but surprisingly I more or less understand what Beatrix says 20:35:32 <dihedral> Laurens, how close were you? 20:35:33 <Laurens> ok mooi :P 20:35:40 <Laurens> I was about 15 meters 20:35:43 <Laurens> away 20:35:52 <TrueBrain> so you were on tv! :p (to make something .. 'fun' out of it :p) 20:36:14 * Bjarni wonders if Laurens were on the news as "person no 37 in crowd" 20:36:23 <dihedral> LOL 20:36:26 <Laurens> LAWL 20:36:28 <Laurens> Rofl 20:36:38 <Laurens> no, sorry im not that ugly 20:36:56 <Bjarni> oh you are right 20:36:59 <Laurens> :P 20:37:00 <Bjarni> sorry 20:37:02 <Laurens> nvm 20:37:03 <Bjarni> 39 then 20:37:09 <Laurens> hahah 20:37:12 <Laurens> no 20:37:29 <Laurens> but info: im 14 years old and has half long blond hair :P 20:37:51 <Bjarni> like shoulder length or ? 20:37:57 <dihedral> i would not say that out loud you know - we had a discussion this morning about porn :-P 20:38:07 <Bjarni> LOL 20:38:07 <Laurens> Shoulder length uhm... 1.60meters 20:38:09 <TrueBrain> discussion? I would not call it that :p 20:38:16 <dihedral> :-D 20:38:28 <Laurens> porn helps against stress 20:38:41 <Bjarni> Laurens: I meant is your hair reaching your shoulders? 20:38:44 <Belugas> ? 20:38:45 <Bjarni> XD 20:38:49 <Laurens> ow like that :P 20:38:53 <Laurens> not yet 20:39:00 <Laurens> almost -P 20:39:21 <Laurens> Belugas thinks: Wtf is goin' on here?? P0rn? 20:39:23 <Bjarni> so I'm looking for blond hair that almost reaches the shoulders on a 14 year old boy with one eye 20:39:23 <dihedral> Belugas, how may we help you? 20:39:43 <thingwath> (hair that can't reach your shoulders is considered "long" nowadays? :)) 20:39:48 <Laurens> one eye? 20:39:59 <dihedral> the other ones poped 20:39:59 <Bjarni> <Laurens> almost -P 20:40:13 <dihedral> *popped 20:40:13 <Wolf01> [22:37:39] <Laurens> but info: im 14 years old and has half long blond hair :P <- I've 10 years of hairs more, but mine are brown :P 20:40:23 <dihedral> :-D 20:40:27 <Laurens> popped 0_0 20:40:35 <Belugas> [16:40] <Laurens> porn helps against stress <--- o_O 20:40:39 <Bjarni> Wolf01: but were you on TV today? 20:40:40 <dihedral> popped eye :-P 20:40:40 <Belugas> as if it was the only ting... 20:40:47 <Belugas> hey.. i've got a wife! 20:40:52 <Belugas> don't need porn!!! 20:40:56 <dihedral> \o/ 20:41:02 <Bjarni> porn is a waste of time 20:41:08 <TrueBrain> lucky for you your wife is that hot ;) 20:41:16 <Laurens> you know that? 20:41:17 <Wolf01> Bjarni, how could I be on tv? I'm always @work/@home :P 20:41:22 <Bjarni> and usually includes a weird and cruel view of women 20:41:35 <Laurens> of course... 20:41:40 <dihedral> Bjarni, thank you! 20:41:45 <Bjarni> Wolf01: that's my point. I'm looking for Laurens in the news right now 20:41:50 <Bjarni> he is likely there... somewhere 20:42:02 <dihedral> on the car bonnet :-P 20:42:15 <Belugas> never said she was... but hey... there is more than sex (porn is not sex, it's voyeurism and to some extend masturbation) to cool down... 20:42:16 <Laurens> pffff :P 20:42:20 <Wolf01> and I was talking about my long beautiful hairs :D 20:42:22 <Belugas> a beer, music, else... 20:42:44 <dihedral> Wolf01, your hairs?????? 20:42:49 <Laurens> @Belugas: a beer, music, sex. 20:42:56 <dihedral> i dont wanna know how long or beautiful your 'hairs' could be! 20:42:58 <Belugas> Wolf01, you look som much better with a sword! 20:42:59 <Laurens> wolf are you a girl? 20:43:03 <Bjarni> Laurens: I'm 99% sure that you are there, but the crowd is a bit blurry and there is a whole lot of people 20:43:18 <Belugas> Laurens, you're clearly a teen in spring fever! 20:43:21 <Bjarni> <Laurens> wolf are you a girl? <-- nice question right after you spoke of porn :P 20:43:35 <dihedral> lol 20:43:39 <Laurens> oh yeah oc :P 20:43:44 <dihedral> Bjarni, + he is 14 and Wolf01 is 24!!! 20:43:45 <Laurens> but i have to go guys bye 20:43:47 <dihedral> eh........ 20:43:48 <Wolf01> the little one handed sword or the wonderful Anduril? 20:43:48 <Laurens> seeyalater 20:44:01 <Belugas> Anduril! 20:44:03 <TrueBrain> sleep well 20:44:04 <Laurens> LOTR FTW 20:44:09 <Laurens> ty true 20:44:15 <Bjarni> dihedral: shouldn't stop Laurens 20:44:19 <dihedral> hehe 20:44:19 <Bjarni> minor detail 20:44:22 <Laurens> Aragorn,... Son of Arathorn... :P 20:44:30 <Laurens> Saruman sucks 20:44:35 <Laurens> but i have to go right now!! 20:44:36 <Wolf01> I'll take a picture with it one day 20:44:37 <Laurens> byeee 20:44:39 <Laurens> sleep well 20:44:43 <Belugas> AThaboy, son of AThaMan 20:44:48 <Wolf01> bye 20:44:54 <dihedral> <Laurens> Saruman sucks <- that does not sound too good when talking about porn 20:44:55 *** Laurens [~Laurens@ip255-198-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 20:45:14 <dihedral> yuck 20:45:20 <Bjarni> <Laurens> Saruman sucks <-- will you please stop all those dirty porn references. We are nice people with a mature way of thinking and not horny teenagers 20:45:35 <Bjarni> ohh he left 20:45:45 <petern> speak for youself 20:46:39 <Bjarni> I did speak for myself 20:46:43 <Bjarni> I'm not a teenager 20:46:53 <petern> you said "we" 20:46:54 <Bjarni> and I'm quite nice too 20:46:59 <Belugas> mature people with teenager way of thinking 20:47:15 <Bjarni> but we shouldn't let children know that :P 20:47:40 <dihedral> lol petern - that was not exactly positive for you :-P 20:47:56 <dihedral> sounds like petern is a horny teen :-D 20:48:04 <Bjarni> he isn't 20:48:14 <Bjarni> but he acts like one XD 20:49:34 <Belugas> [16:47] <Wolf01> I'll take a picture with it one day <-- that was not the one you showed me? 20:49:46 <Wolf01> no 20:50:23 <Belugas> oki 20:52:51 <Belugas> #You're so vain 20:53:00 <Belugas> #I bet you think this song is about you 20:53:17 <Belugas> StarFuckers INC! 20:53:36 <dihedral> fuck the fucking fuckers 20:53:57 <petern> # youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu're 20:53:59 <petern> # soooooooooooooooo 20:54:01 <petern> # vaaaaaaaain 20:54:10 <petern> # i bet you think this song is about you 20:54:15 <petern> # 'bout you 'bout you 'bout you 20:54:17 * Bjarni notice that Laurens have a bad influence on this channel 20:54:31 <Belugas> buwhahahahA!!!!! 20:54:32 <TrueBrain> Bjarni: no, that would be you 20:54:37 <Belugas> Don't need him for that!! 20:54:47 <dihedral> true 20:54:49 <Belugas> by the way... 20:54:55 <Belugas> TIME TO FUCKING GO HOME! 20:55:02 <Bjarni> TrueBrain: you are saying that like he is the only one having a bad influence 20:55:20 <dihedral> Belugas, spare us the details ^^ 20:55:22 <TrueBrain> no, I am saying that like YOU are the only one having a bad influence 20:55:28 <TrueBrain> you should get those facts correct ;) 20:55:32 <TrueBrain> Belugas: enjoy going home :) 20:55:40 <Belugas> thanks :) 20:55:51 <Bjarni> Belugas: maybe your wife wants to alter that order 20:56:03 <Bjarni> "time to go home fucking" 20:56:05 <Bjarni> XD 20:56:22 <Belugas> dihedral, there's a differnce between Go Home Fucking and Fucking Go Home or even Go Fucking Home 20:56:36 * Belugas is fucking gone 20:56:49 <petern> Belugas, fuck off already you fucking fuck 20:56:53 <petern> (<3) 20:57:13 <dihedral> :-D 20:57:27 <petern> Belugas, if you're lucky i'll be up waiting for you ;) 20:57:28 <Bjarni> I read the other day that doctors in the Victorian times figured out that masturbation made breasts shrink 20:57:36 <Bjarni> masturbation was a really bad thing at that time 20:57:48 <Bjarni> so people looked down on women with small breasts 20:58:10 <Bjarni> because it was clearly because they did stuff they weren't supposed to do 20:58:55 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 20:59:10 <TrueBrain> I think the topic should go back to more relevant matters, like ... OpenTTD 20:59:18 <TrueBrain> I am not that interested in how Bjarni masturbates ... 20:59:28 <Bjarni> LOL 20:59:49 <Bjarni> that thing only applied to women :P 20:59:55 <petern> nowt wrong with small titties 21:00:10 <TrueBrain> even petern joins ...... the world is lost! 21:00:11 <TrueBrain> RUN! 21:00:31 <Bjarni> petern: it was for the Victorians 21:01:46 <TrueBrain> " I Think my house is hunted " - " Why is that? " - " My wife is there! " 21:03:36 <TinoDidriksen> Jeff Dunham 21:04:20 <TrueBrain> concratz, I am suprised :) 21:04:48 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]] 21:08:06 *** Azrael [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:36 <TinoDidriksen> He's great... 21:08:44 <TrueBrain> :) Watching it now 21:08:46 <TrueBrain> brilliant 21:08:46 <DaleStan> Since we're talking about OpenTTD, does anyone know what Open would do if I took a valid GRF and prepended the two bytes "00 00"? 21:09:02 <TrueBrain> TinoDidriksen: I love it that you really think 2 people are up there 21:09:55 <TinoDidriksen> He does make it feel very natural, indeed. 21:10:08 <Bjarni> When a man falls overboard from a ship, you yell "man overboard". What do you yell if a woman falls overboard? 21:10:27 <DaleStan> Specifically, would that be a safe way of marking grfs for which the sprite size field is "word, or FF FF followed by a dword", instead of just "word"? 21:10:56 <Sacro> Bjarni: clumsy bitch? 21:13:12 <Bjarni> Sacro: there is a clip on youtube about a TV quiz with this question. The guy answered "full speed ahead" 21:13:37 <Bjarni> though I believe that "man overboard" would be the correct answer 21:17:17 <frosch123> DaleStan: you mean "00 00" like end-of-file ? 21:17:54 <DaleStan> Yes. Like end-of-file. 21:20:54 <frosch123> looks like OTTD has not forgotton about that marker, and should stop there 21:21:50 <frosch123> though I hope you are not heading for >64k pseudo sprites 21:23:11 *** osse [~osse@bl210a.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #openttd 21:23:34 <DaleStan> Not until someone asks. 21:23:39 <dihedral> good night ladies 21:23:50 <Wolf01> nini 21:24:24 <DaleStan> But the idea has been kicking around for years, and I finally realized how I could do it (more or less) safely. 21:24:36 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8a01.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 21:24:38 <fonsinchen> +2344 21:25:21 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeje73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 21:25:25 <frosch123> I just wonder whether "always dword for length" isn't easier than "extended word" :p 21:25:47 <planetmaker> night dihedral 21:26:09 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5B0D2F09.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 21:26:41 <DaleStan> Dunno. Haven't thought about that. 21:26:56 <osse> Is this the place to ask a general patching question? 21:26:58 <frosch123> btw. don't forget to enlarge ysize :p 21:28:42 <DaleStan> Actually, scratch that idea. Forget I asked. Too much work. 21:28:49 <DaleStan> :) 21:29:04 <frosch123> lol 21:29:15 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has joined #openttd 21:36:11 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3088.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37:00 <osse> should "svn checkout svn://svn.openttd.org/tags/0.7.0/ [folder]" give me the source to 0.7.0? It says "Checked out revision 16191." when it's finished 21:37:22 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:39:07 <petern> yes 21:39:12 <petern> revision 16191 of tags/0.7.0/ 21:40:17 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has joined #openttd 21:42:35 <TinoDidriksen> Have to think differently...Subversion doesn't have tags. It's merely a copy of the trunk at that point in time, used for organizational purposes. You can even commit changes into a "tagged" branch. So it will still show increasing revision numbers, even if nothing in that part is changing. 21:44:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EC7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:35 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-143-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 21:46:01 *** osse [~osse@bl210a.studby.ntnu.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:49:54 <el_en> ¿cómo? 21:50:06 <TinoDidriksen> ? 21:50:42 <el_en> bueno. 22:07:26 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:45 <Wolf01> 'night 22:07:52 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host241-236-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:09:37 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:10:13 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13:27 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 22:13:40 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:18:14 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:20:43 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f050242162.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 22:23:12 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.103.20.136] has joined #openttd 22:25:09 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 22:44:04 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50:47 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:56:09 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:08:18 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 23:09:47 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 23:11:29 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-152-18.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:14:39 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8a01.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:18:58 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x3ef3a188.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:32:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C23.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:24 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:40:38 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.103.20.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:54:02 *** reldred [~richard@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #openttd 23:54:43 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]