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07:18:51 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 07:20:42 <dihedral> oh my - i just looked at sirkoz more diesel smoke patch ^^ 07:22:02 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 07:24:00 <Noldo> and? 07:24:16 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.203.203] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:24:22 <dihedral> a lot of calculation for each huff and puff 07:25:09 <Azrael-> how much is a lot? 07:25:21 <dihedral> original: if (u->cur_speed <= 40 && Chance16(15, 128)) { 07:25:32 <dihedral> sirkoz: if (u->cur_speed < u->tcache.cached_max_speed && Chance16((64 - ((u->cur_speed << 5) / u->tcache.cached_max_speed) + (32 >> (u->tcache.cached_power >> 10)) - (32 >> (u->tcache.cached_weight >> 9))), 128)) { 07:25:46 <Azrael-> heh 07:26:03 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:26:26 <dihedral> aye 07:27:16 <dihedral> i feel like changing something very minor on that patch file and uploading it 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[alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 13:17:17 <fonsinchen> Is there a short expression in English for "arriving at a station and not travelling any further"? 13:18:30 <Ammler> stop? 13:18:39 <KenjiE20> terminate? 13:18:42 <planetmaker> depart? 13:19:06 <fonsinchen> you can say "50 tons of coal terminate at XY"? 13:19:22 <planetmaker> unload 13:19:26 <fonsinchen> "depart" is the opposite of "arrive" 13:19:41 <planetmaker> well. then it's not depart :P 13:19:46 <dihedral> synonym.com :-) 13:19:46 <planetmaker> sorry 13:19:58 <fonsinchen> unload means the cargo is leaving the vehicle - that doesn't necessarily mean it stays there. 13:20:13 <dihedral> it's still leaving the vehicle 13:20:58 <dihedral> else, you can also ask if there is another word that emphasizes that cargo is going to continue it's journey some other way 13:21:21 <fonsinchen> dihedral, that's "going via". 13:21:30 <dihedral> unloading to go via 13:21:33 <dihedral> :-P 13:21:34 <fonsinchen> I want the opposite of "going via" 13:22:11 <fonsinchen> I'm in favour of "terminate", but I don't know if that's correct english. Any native speakers here? 13:22:21 <dihedral> terminate :-P hehe 13:22:30 <dihedral> that sounds like killing a process :_D 13:22:37 <dihedral> or something/someone else 13:22:40 <fonsinchen> yes, the process of travelling. 13:22:55 <Ammler> fonsinchen: KenjiE20 should be ;-) 13:22:57 <dihedral> whats the problem though? 13:23:07 <fonsinchen> I want entries in the station GUI saying something like "50 passengers terminating". 13:23:15 <dihedral> lol 13:23:36 <fonsinchen> In analogy to "50 passengers going via London" 13:23:40 <dihedral> what for? 13:24:12 <dihedral> who cares for those passengers who will not travel any further? 13:24:12 <fonsinchen> because right now, for terminating passengers I use "going via" the same station you are looking at. 13:24:16 <fonsinchen> That confusing. 13:24:17 <KenjiE20> "Terminates" is the usual word for any service that stops and changes direction 13:24:54 <dihedral> why at all mention them? 13:24:55 <fonsinchen> dihedral, if you look at the planned flows you are very well interested in terminating cargo. 13:25:18 <fonsinchen> because you want to know how much cargo is coming from where and where it is going. 13:25:24 <fonsinchen> at least I want. 13:25:27 <Singaporekid> 50 passengers will be terminated at London? 13:25:32 <dihedral> hehe 13:25:39 <dihedral> that sounds like a terrorist attack :-D 13:25:52 <KenjiE20> the passengers themselves aren't the service they arrived on will 13:26:15 <fonsinchen> So, is there a different word I could use for the passengers? 13:26:16 <dihedral> the service is not terminated, as the service continues, the passengers just will not use it any longer :-P 13:26:24 <KenjiE20> i.e. the 14:50 newc-ldn terminates at Kings cross 13:26:25 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:26:26 <dihedral> ended their journey :-P 13:27:06 <fonsinchen> "ending their journey" is nice. Doesn't sound very "technical", though. 13:27:24 <dihedral> they are passengers - most of them are not very technical :-P 13:27:36 <fonsinchen> I'll also use it for other cargo. 13:27:49 <fonsinchen> 50 tons of coal ending their journey 13:27:50 <fonsinchen> := 13:27:52 <fonsinchen> ) 13:27:54 <dihedral> arrived. 13:28:14 <dihedral> delivered - but that aint gonna work on people :-P 13:28:18 <KenjiE20> 'Final destination'? 13:28:19 <dihedral> 50 people delivered :-D 13:28:22 <fonsinchen> yes, but "arrive" can also mean "and later take another train somewhere else" 13:28:43 <dihedral> arrived. and arrived to continue to ..... 13:28:59 <dihedral> too much hassle 13:29:05 <dihedral> you just pick up and drop off :-P 13:29:26 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejj161.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 13:29:32 <fonsinchen> You think the difference between "arrive" and "going via" is enough distinction to make it clear to everyone? 13:29:34 <Ammler> pax is just another kind of cargo 13:30:10 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 13:30:12 <Ammler> you don't care as players, if it is nice "speaking", do you? 13:30:30 <fonsinchen> but you want to understand what it means. 13:30:42 <KenjiE20> fon, it would probably depend on context 13:31:03 <fonsinchen> And people are already confused by cargo going to an "unknown station", so I spending some thoughts on the wording. 13:31:18 <fonsinchen> the context is a list of cargo 13:31:32 <dihedral> people are already confused when it just comes to installing openttd or building a junction or .... 13:31:38 <dihedral> nobody cares for such users :-D 13:31:51 <fonsinchen> like in the screenshot here: http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=109508 13:31:59 <z-MaTRiX> <; 13:32:00 <EoD> ^^ 13:32:16 <fonsinchen> I want to replace the text for cargo going "via" the same station you're looking at. 13:32:28 <z-MaTRiX> nice, train having queue of terminating passengers 13:32:32 <KenjiE20> yea, those make no sense to me at all :P 13:32:58 <dihedral> suicide train :-P 13:33:17 <z-MaTRiX> can we have a function ignoring railroad-line end, so i could make a maglev train jump into the ocean ?:) 13:33:18 <FR^2> Hmm. :/ I'd like to program an AI, but the wiki pages don't tell me how to pack an AI, or where to place the files and such... Or I haven't found it yet. Any hints? Is there any "very, very basic" AI example that I could use as a template? 13:33:41 <dihedral> z-MaTRiX, nope 13:34:22 <dihedral> FR^2, you can download one from the content server :-P 13:34:29 <dihedral> and just pick up from there 13:34:39 <z-MaTRiX> heheh btw, citizens celebrate, first train arrives at coal-mine 13:34:39 <FR^2> dihedral: Which one would you suggest? 13:34:47 <dihedral> any 13:35:15 <FR^2> Hmm. Okay. 13:36:17 <dihedral> you want coding examples 13:36:22 <dihedral> not a base to modify 13:37:34 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38:53 <Yexo> FR^2: http://wiki.openttd.org/AI:Introduction <- that page states step for step what files you should create, and where 13:39:06 <FR^2> Hmm. Not really, the examples are not the issue, I just don't know where to start, how that archive should be structured (info.nut and main.nut are mandatory, I assume - but I'm just guessing) 13:39:21 <FR^2> Okay, I'll just read it through more carefully 13:39:27 <Yexo> you only need info.nut and main.nut 13:39:54 <Yexo> but you can use other files (and include them in main.nut) to organize your code 13:40:22 <Yexo> and in general when working on your ai, you don't want to create a tar archive 13:40:24 <FR^2> Good, that's a start. 13:43:14 <glx> planetmaker: ping 13:43:18 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db07f67.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 13:45:15 <planetmaker> glx: pong 13:45:37 <glx> I have a question about 2cc translation :) 13:45:42 <planetmaker> ah :) 13:45:47 <planetmaker> French is not taken yet :) 13:46:02 <glx> I need more info about "Metro Van" 13:46:11 <glx> I don't see exactly what it is 13:46:42 <planetmaker> ohm... let me see, I don't know by heart. I think it's the wagons which can be attached to the metro trains 13:46:48 <planetmaker> it's pax only wagons 13:48:39 <FR^2> StreetTraffic1.1.0 is a good one ;) 13:49:12 <planetmaker> yes. Just checked. That's the only wagon which is available for the metro tracks / trains 13:49:24 <glx> ok :) 13:49:28 <planetmaker> 120 PAX capacity 13:49:42 <glx> a page with name and sprites may be helpful ;) 13:49:48 <planetmaker> not refittable. 13:50:02 <planetmaker> he... good idea :) Lot of work :S 13:50:19 <planetmaker> I'll make a ticket concerning that, though. 13:50:28 *** Xyzzy [c40fc9c9@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:50:36 <Ammler> planetmaker: grf2html :-) 13:52:21 <planetmaker> http://users.tt-forums.net/2cc/vehiclelist.html <-- @ glx 13:52:26 <glx> Ammler: but that gives too much info 13:52:28 <planetmaker> has obviously not everything, though 13:52:28 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:53:18 <planetmaker> especially not the metro van :D 13:54:07 <Ammler> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/grf2html/2cc_trainset/ <-- looks like a link, which shouldn't be published ;-) 13:55:09 <planetmaker> haha :) Not sure, though. Why not? 13:55:30 <Ammler> takes hours to build in the browser 13:55:47 <planetmaker> hm... I should remember my GBit connection ;) 13:55:56 <planetmaker> took not noticably long :P 13:56:28 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.208.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:56:54 *** Hirundo_ [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 13:57:11 <z-MaTRiX> F_ctp=4*pi^2*f^2*r*m | [f]=1/s && [r]=m && [m]=kg && [F_ctp]=N 13:57:13 <dihedral> loaded fine for me too 13:57:30 <Ammler> like Doxygen for grfs :-) 13:59:09 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59:19 *** Hirundo_ is now known as Hirundo 14:00:44 <planetmaker> got to go. I wish you all a nice Whitsun holiday :) 14:01:05 <EoD> bye 14:02:22 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 14:02:38 <z-MaTRiX> yey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banked_turn 14:04:08 <glx> planetmaker: you don't accept dcc ? 14:06:24 <Ammler> glx: bouncer thas troubles with 14:06:50 <glx> I'll use another way then 14:06:50 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:07:56 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 14:08:46 <z-MaTRiX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centripetal_force 14:08:49 <z-MaTRiX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelleration 14:09:00 <z-MaTRiX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equations_of_Motion? 14:09:04 <z-MaTRiX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equations_of_Motion 14:09:20 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:12:09 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12:32 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:16:52 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 14:17:07 <Belugas> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_The_Hell_Was_That_For 14:18:51 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:19:23 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 14:21:53 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 14:24:15 <z-MaTRiX> some reading for the bored 14:27:34 <Belugas> :S 14:31:27 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177238229.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:35:33 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FAC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:34 <Rubidium> z-MaTRiX: Uncyclopedia is much better for the bored (especially those that know physics and are bored) 14:38:48 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177238229.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:40:07 *** Forked_ 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*** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:38:53 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: translators * r16460 /trunk/src/lang/ (afrikaans.txt luxembourgish.txt): 17:38:53 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-05-29 17:38:27 17:38:53 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: afrikaans - 18 fixed, 6 changed by Chilli (24) 17:38:53 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: luxembourgish - 114 fixed, 252 changed by *jigo* (366) 17:43:19 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:45:10 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177238229.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 17:48:07 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:50:49 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 17:58:35 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]] 18:15:17 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 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Is there any relation between NewGRF applied and possible breakdowns of the game? 18:49:59 <Spizania> AdmiralAI is embarassing me 18:50:18 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:50:41 <Yexo> Powerek38: only if you change newgrfs in a running game 18:50:48 <Yexo> if you didn't, please report it as a bug 18:51:25 <z-MaTRiX> Spizania, why?:) 18:51:43 <Powerek38> Yexo: the thing is I've got a new computer (the first one with Vista in my life) and I now have huge problems with opening saved games which didn't use to happen on my previous PC with XP 18:52:10 <Powerek38> but I thought it's because of activating most NewGRF 18:52:47 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D5FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:52:48 <Yexo> what kind of problems do you have? 18:53:10 <Spizania> it is slaughtering me profitwise 18:53:16 <Spizania> its company value is 25 times mine 18:53:29 <Spizania> and thats after it got knocked abck to teh starting blocks by crashing once 18:53:55 <Yexo> sorry, I was asking Powerek38: what kind of problems do you have? 18:54:09 <Powerek38> Yexo: when I load a game, it either takes very long or it makes the application stop responding just after I start to play (when I unpause it, as it's paused at first when loaded) 18:54:54 <Yexo> some assumptions: 1. on your old computer, you had openttd 0.6.3 18:55:03 <Yexo> 2. On your new computer, you downloaded the latest stable, which is 0.7.0 18:55:15 <Yexo> 3. You have downloaded NoCab through the ingame content-download system 18:55:32 <Powerek38> Yexo: yeah, but I mean saved games from 0.7.0, save already on this PC 18:55:40 <Powerek38> Yexo: yes, I did download it that way 18:55:56 <Yexo> which AIs are running in the savegames you have trouble loading? 18:56:20 <Powerek38> Yexo: I think NoCab (in two versions), Admiral and Convoy 18:56:35 <Yexo> then try removing nocab 18:56:38 <Yexo> see if that helps 18:57:36 <Powerek38> ok, so I need to manually turn it off in AI menu and then try to start a new game which should be loading all right after saving, is that right? 18:59:04 <Yexo> yes, or just remove the nocab tar files then load an old savegame 18:59:50 <Powerek38> ok, thanks for this... I've HP Pavilion with 3GB of RAM, so I guess it's not a weak computer for OTTD, is it? 19:00:33 <Yexo> no, it's just that nocab takes very long to load (at least older versions of it) 19:00:51 <Yexo> the problem is fixed in more recent openttd versions 19:01:01 <Yexo> so you can also download a nightly 19:03:54 <Powerek38> Ok, downloading the latest nightly right now... thanks for your help! 19:07:14 <Spizania> im still on straight 0.7.0 19:07:26 <Spizania> the only patch I especially want is the more height levels one 19:09:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FAC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:09:39 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm112.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:15:47 <Spizania> um, I have a bug to report, its not a crash bush, its just wierd 19:17:54 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-190-55.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 19:18:12 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:18:19 <Yexo> Spizania: are you going to tell us what it was? 19:18:28 <Yexo> or are you waiting for the problem to fix itself 19:18:36 <Rubidium> Yexo: he wants to be like mb 19:18:45 <Spizania> funny 19:18:52 <Spizania> Arctic map, a farm closed a long time ago 19:18:57 <Spizania> all the fields dissapeared except two tiles 19:19:09 <Spizania> they appear to be acting like farm fields do when theres a farm nearby 19:21:32 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 19:21:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 19:26:38 <Spizania> any ideas? 19:26:50 <Yexo> no 19:26:56 <Yexo> unless you can reproduce it 19:27:26 <Yexo> so have a savegame where there farm is still there, including instructions like: wait untill .. date, then the farm disappears but the farms don't 19:33:15 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:37:05 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 19:45:10 *** Powerek38 [~chatzilla@static-62-233-206-85.devs.futuro.pl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]] 19:53:06 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-66-158.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 19:56:14 *** sperber [~sperber@84-119-9-150.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 19:56:43 <sperber> hi there 19:57:30 <Yexo> hello sperber 19:57:38 <sperber> i wonther - is there a way to reduce the ingame speed? (so not about 5min/month but maybe 10 times as much...) 19:57:43 <sperber> wonder* 19:57:59 <Yexo> not without patching your game 19:58:29 <Prof_Frink> Run a 2048x2048 map on an old computer? 19:58:50 <sperber> that patch would also influence the speed of any kind of transportations, right? 19:59:02 <Yexo> no 19:59:15 <Yexo> search for the daylength patch 19:59:20 <sperber> k, thx 20:01:15 <sperber> is that patch i suppose that patch is necessary on all clients, right? 20:01:29 <Yexo> yes 20:18:06 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 20:24:28 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32:04 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEdf35.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:34:49 <Spizania> Yexo: I have a savegame where the farm exists I believe, but im not exactly sure when it dissapeared 20:35:44 <Alberth> fast forward the game 20:35:55 *** Zorn [~zorn@f054001226.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:36:53 <Spizania> right, and see if it happens every time rather than just a one off? 20:37:03 <Yexo> exactly 20:37:48 <Alberth> and preferably save a game just before the event 20:37:50 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-209-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:07 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:38:44 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejj161.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 20:39:30 *** mynetdude [~mynetdude@67-42-179-64.eugn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:44:34 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:44:36 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:44:55 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 20:45:07 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:45:50 <PeterT> hi 20:46:09 <Nite_Owl> Hello PeterT 20:46:59 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-34-135.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 20:51:35 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet632.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:05:05 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 21:07:18 *** Arke [~chatzilla@ip68-97-194-196.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #openttd 21:07:19 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:30 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... konversation-1.2alpha2... am i experiment-friendly enough? 21:08:57 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-209-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:09:20 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: it's less tricky than a) upgrading Xorg or b) upgrading ATI drivers 21:09:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i can pretty safely assume that :p 21:10:19 <Eddi|zuHause> but i should look out that i have a backup of the old 1.1 rpm 21:10:27 <Eddi|zuHause> inst-source only has 1.0.1 21:11:02 <Rubidium> and well, there are quite a few alternatives to konversation 21:13:53 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16461 /trunk/bin/data/opntitle.dat: -Fix [FS#2929]: add some valid orders so the trains leave the depot again... 21:14:43 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejj161.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 21:21:25 <Eddi|zuHause> is kde 4.2 any good meanwhile? 21:21:44 <Rubidium> no idea 21:21:52 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: meanwhile... 21:21:53 <Sacro> ? 21:22:05 <Rubidium> kdevelop 3.5.4 sucks on my machine 21:22:24 <Rubidium> sucks as in: quite unuseable 21:22:38 *** williham [~wito@212.251.244.25] has joined #openttd 21:22:56 <Eddi|zuHause> Sacro: i mean is it a significant improvement over my last try at 4.0 and no major stepback from 3.5 21:23:09 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-66-158.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 21:23:10 <Sacro> oh, 4.2 is quite nice 21:24:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i tried amarok 2 a few months ago, and i couldn't get it to play music 21:24:31 <Eddi|zuHause> which might be some crippeling on suse's side, but it made me give up once again 21:24:47 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16462 /trunk/findversion.sh: -Change [FS#2930]: use a safer way to detect the hash of a mercurial repository (planetmaker) 21:26:57 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db07f67.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: gn8] 21:29:36 *** [wito] [~wito@212.251.244.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:45:57 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:51:15 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 21:54:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FAC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:57:40 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58:12 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Pohodlné vykecávání. Odkudkoliv.] 21:59:01 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 22:08:41 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@c-68-82-181-52.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:08:56 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=792161#p792161 <- LOL @ the number of downloads :-P 22:09:36 <frosch123> someone cheated :p 22:10:09 <frosch123> though I am quite disappointed that you did not call it "better vehicle smoke" :p 22:10:17 <dihedral> :-D 22:10:23 <dihedral> i wanted to be confusing :-P 22:10:42 <dihedral> could have called it 'performance decrease smoke generator' 22:10:51 <frosch123> maybe "better" would also need steam smoke :p 22:11:10 <dihedral> did you ever see that patch? 22:11:17 <dihedral> i mean - the checks it performs? 22:11:24 <dihedral> for every huff and puff? 22:11:29 <dihedral> it's insane 22:12:35 <Eddi|zuHause> i must admit, i have never noticed diesel smoke in ottd 22:12:46 <Eddi|zuHause> it was much more common in TT 22:13:07 <Eddi|zuHause> when accelerating and on slopes 22:13:28 <z-MaTRiX> hi Eddi|zuHause 22:13:47 <z-MaTRiX> diesels generate little smoke no? 22:13:57 * Eddi|zuHause sets mode +useless_highlight 22:14:11 <z-MaTRiX> :) 22:14:40 <Eddi|zuHause> no, really, it's annoying. 22:14:59 <z-MaTRiX> yeah sure there are useless highlights 22:15:51 <Belugas> meeeeh... 22:15:53 <Belugas> tired 22:16:00 <Belugas> i guess i shall go home now 22:16:06 * Belugas waves bye bye 22:16:07 <z-MaTRiX> what for? 22:16:28 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe754.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:17:09 <Belugas> 1) eat 2) see my kid and wife 3) rest 4) tv and decompress 5) guitar playing 22:17:12 <Belugas> enough for you? 22:17:24 * Belugas is now officially gone 22:17:44 <z-MaTRiX> ok bye <; 22:28:07 <dihedral> my bed's shouting my name too - night 22:28:35 <Nite_Owl> later Belugas & dihedral 22:28:53 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 22:39:40 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:41:34 <Chruker> heh, what a detour to find a 0.6.3 download 22:42:23 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@38.80-202-138.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:42:35 <Yexo> why would you want that? Plus all versions are downloadable from binaries.openttd.org 22:42:41 <Chruker> ... only to find it wont install because I got 0.7.0 22:42:52 <Yexo> download the zip and extract it 22:42:54 <Yexo> no need for the installer 22:43:15 <Chruker> I wanted to see in details how the ai was constructing 22:43:46 <Chruker> the binaries.openttd.org isnt listed in the links page 22:46:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FAC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47:58 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 22:48:50 <Eddi|zuHause> because it's a page for insiders :) 23:11:23 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEdf35.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 23:14:46 *** rain```` [rain@24-183-138-238.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 23:15:39 <Nite_Owl> need to feed - be back later 23:25:21 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:32:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C25.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:06 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B757F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:33:21 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:38:23 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!] 23:39:55 * Chruker hides from the hungry owl 23:40:11 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:42:01 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-113-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 23:52:52 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 23:56:04 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@BAEb48f.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 23:57:48 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:58:20 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@38.80-202-138.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 23:58:22 <theholyduck> hmm 23:58:28 <theholyduck> soo i was trying to compile on linux 23:58:35 <theholyduck> checking 3rdparty... NOT FOUND 23:58:35 <theholyduck> ERROR: please make sure you have src/3rdparty/squirrel 23:58:42 <theholyduck> i then try to checkout the svn it gives me for that 23:58:45 <theholyduck> but it says it doesnt exist 23:58:54 <theholyduck> this happens under configure that is 23:59:11 <Yexo> try "svn up" then configure again 23:59:20 <theholyduck> but i need a specific revision 23:59:25 <theholyduck> wichis why did svn co -r 23:59:29 <Yexo> which one? 23:59:42 <theholyduck> 16381 23:59:58 <theholyduck> oh wait