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00:00:03 <Brianetta> Commiserations and felicitations, depending on your outlook. It's Christmas in UTC land. Love from me to all, deserving or not. 00:08:51 <PeterT> Merry Christmas Europeans! 00:08:57 <PeterT> An hour late... :-p 00:09:10 <orudge> well 00:09:14 <orudge> depends which part of Europe you're looking at 00:09:24 <PeterT> Well, in England I would be two hours late 00:09:31 <orudge> er, no 00:09:33 <PeterT> but most of Europe is in GMT +1? 00:09:35 <ashb> its 00:09 in UK 00:09:38 <orudge> tis only just past midnight in the UK 00:10:16 <PeterT> Ah 00:10:20 <PeterT> Merry Christmas! 00:10:25 <PeterT> orudge, you still in USA? 00:10:29 <orudge> yep 00:10:59 <PeterT> ah 00:15:25 <Ammler> Sch?ne Weihnachten Brianetta :-) 00:15:39 <Ammler> and you other guys, of course. 00:18:01 <Coco-Banana-Man> Merry Christmas! 00:21:36 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27:04 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DA6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:27:32 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DDF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:28:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D1A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:33:57 *** p-w [~w00f@96.243.199.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:34:23 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has left #openttd [] 00:35:01 *** kratt [~kaka@80-235-48-180-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has left #openttd [] 00:37:09 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B46F3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 00:38:13 <PeterT> Is this really needed in the readme since we have an online translator? http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/browser/trunk/readme.txt#L438 00:42:46 <sparr> Error: Assertion failed at line 1111 of /usr/src/OpenTTD/compile/src/economy.cpp: v->time_counter != 0 00:42:47 <sparr> :( 00:48:16 <PeterT> Where was this? 00:48:23 <PeterT> On the #ottdcoop server? 00:48:36 <PeterT> go bugs.openttd.org 00:49:54 <Kovensky> oh, an APTX 00:50:08 <APTX> oh, a Kovensky 00:53:38 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:20:48 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF99CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:25:08 <PeterT> Can I suggest the possibilty to shade the client list window? 01:25:56 <SmatZ> you can *suggest* 01:26:32 <PeterT> Ok? :-) 01:26:33 <orudge> you could even implement ;) 01:26:53 <SmatZ> :-) 01:27:05 <SmatZ> I don't know what key was used when choosing windows that will/won't support shading 01:35:24 *** peter_ [~PeterT@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:35:24 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:35:49 *** peter_ is now known as PeterT 01:36:23 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-158-61.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:36:56 <sparr> PeterT: a local game 01:37:15 <PeterT> sparr: Ah 01:37:21 <PeterT> Version? 01:37:39 <sparr> 18594 01:37:42 <sparr> r18594 01:37:58 * sparr wonders what subversion does if you try to name a branch rXXXX 01:40:06 <PeterT> I love that Linux can checkout and compile in seconds 01:50:15 <Kovensky> PeterT: indeed :3 01:53:01 <SmatZ> it takes over 5 minutes on my test system :-x 01:53:20 <SmatZ> ("in seconds" == "in over 300 seconds"?) 01:53:49 <SmatZ> http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/bench/bench.log :) 01:53:52 <Kovensky> well, would take much more in windows 01:54:08 <Kovensky> not that much more on winxp, but on nt6... D: 01:54:17 <SmatZ> interesting 01:54:33 <SmatZ> same compiler? 01:54:37 <Kovensky> yes 01:54:49 <Kovensky> because of process spawning on windows 01:55:15 <Kovensky> make calls gcc that calls cpp, cc1 and as 01:55:24 <Kovensky> and ld too when linking 01:55:36 <Kovensky> since this is C++, then it uses cc1plus and collect2 01:56:12 <Kovensky> IOW, it spawns loads of subprocesses 01:56:19 <Kovensky> which is bad for performance on windows :( 01:58:26 <SmatZ> interesting 01:59:16 <SmatZ> <10 processes being too much :( 02:07:42 * PeterT loves known-bugs.txt 02:08:35 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D9A83.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Die Nützlichkeit der Götter war schon immer eine zweifelhafte Sache. Man wusste nie so genau, wie man sie wirksam einsetzen konnte, ohne dass sie gleich b] 02:11:28 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:17:13 <roboboy> cyou 02:19:40 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B2AC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:21:31 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 02:21:54 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B2BBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 02:21:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 02:26:28 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d0e2.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:09:10 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:13:45 <sparr> PeterT: process spawning costs, as well as some memory management and disk io issues, are why some Windows games run faster in wine than in windows :) 03:14:08 <PeterT> Hehe 03:14:33 <PeterT> sparr: Since you're the only one online, I ask that you check out my shots: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=843153#p843153 03:14:33 <sparr> always used to taunt my WoW guildmates with that, way back when I still played WoW 03:15:58 <sparr> they are screenshots, this i can confirm :) 03:16:22 <sparr> i have yet to play competitive multiplayer 03:16:27 <sparr> should give it a try some day soon 03:16:47 <PeterT> Hehe 03:16:57 <PeterT> download 1.0.0-beta1 03:17:01 <PeterT> then go to peter's ukrs 03:17:09 <PeterT> it's not even my server! :-D 03:17:17 <sparr> have to run off now, will be back on in 1-5 hours, might play then, but probably not until tomorrow 03:17:44 <PeterT> Ok 03:17:46 <PeterT> Bye 03:21:39 <PeterT> brb 03:21:44 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:23:52 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:31:53 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:48:21 *** bartaway [~bartavell@bartabox.banquise.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 03:48:22 *** bartaway [~bartavell@bartabox.banquise.net] has joined #openttd 04:04:10 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has joined #openttd 04:13:45 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 04:13:49 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 04:21:17 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has left #openttd [] 04:29:05 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-165-218.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:39:59 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-153-98.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 04:46:24 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:2549:5cee:c72b:9b1] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:48:00 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-153-98.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:48:25 <sparr> project 1000 (UKRS) isn't available in the online content system 04:48:29 <sparr> so i can't connect to Peter's server 05:10:23 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:53:42 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.203.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:01:00 *** DaleStan [~Dale@24.12.4.37] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:08:01 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.203.230] has joined #openttd 06:58:25 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@131.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 06:58:47 <Terkhen> merry christmas :) 07:01:45 *** ctibor_ [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [Server closed connection] 07:01:58 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 07:18:21 <Alberth> Terkhen: merry christmas 07:30:07 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:37:17 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 07:52:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i fear i have caught a cold... 08:02:45 <peter1138> nice present 08:04:49 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, matches the pullover :p 08:06:05 <roboboy> Merry Christmas from Sydney 08:06:23 <Eddi|zuHause> you have white christmas, too? :p 08:06:55 <roboboy> nope just rain today 08:07:08 <roboboy> its been hot leading up 08:07:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i think it's going to be thawing and raining today, and again freezing over night 08:07:28 <Eddi|zuHause> going to be funny roads ;) 08:19:40 <peter1138> typical that we manage to have snow before, but not actually on christmas day 08:19:46 <peter1138> so it doesn't count :s 08:25:32 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-52f7e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 08:26:06 * roboboy likes windows 7 08:26:38 <peter1138> there's always oen 08:28:29 * Eddi|zuHause has no intention to ever get windows 7 08:30:59 * Alberth thinks windows has an inconsistent version naming scheme 08:34:15 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe they wanted it to name 2007, but didn't quite make the release date :p 08:35:10 <Eddi|zuHause> so... when's doctor who on? 08:36:48 <sparr> so many public servers use GRFs not on the online content service :( 08:37:36 <SpComb^> W7 is the new XP? 08:37:56 <Alberth> sparr: you can look here too: http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/ 08:38:08 <SpComb^> and get the ottdcoop pack 08:39:16 <peter1138> or just on http://www.tt-forums.net/ 08:50:14 *** Elessar [FzWDLksbpB@2001:41d0:1:d1a4::12] has joined #openttd 08:50:19 <Elessar> Hello. 08:50:51 <sparr> SpComb^: i have the openttdcoop pack 08:51:13 <Elessar> I am a little confused abou graphic file: there are the original, non-free TTD 8bpp, the free OpenGFX, and what are the NewGRF? 08:52:03 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@131.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 08:52:03 <Eddi|zuHause> NewGRF are like expansion modules 08:52:07 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 08:52:08 <roboboy> They extend and replace either TTD or OpenGFX depending which is installed 08:52:11 <Elessar> I have seen a long list of NewGRF files, they are not provided as a pack like OpenGFX, but grouped by themes? 08:52:20 <Elessar> Okay. 08:52:54 <Eddi|zuHause> NewGRFs change certain aspects of the game play 08:52:56 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:53:15 <Elessar> Oh, so they are more than graphic files, are not they? 08:53:20 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 08:53:27 <Eddi|zuHause> much more 08:54:04 <Elessar> By the way, 8bpp means 256 colors, with a single palette for the whole game, or with a palette for each item? 08:54:33 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, 256 colours for the whole game 08:54:51 <peter1138> it's all 8bpp 08:54:58 <peter1138> there is no complete 32bpp graphics set yet 08:55:04 <Elessar> Wow. Amazing result with so few colors, for OpenGFX. 08:56:02 <Elessar> peter1138: Do you mean that, in the future, there may exist a complete 32bpp graphic set that the game could run with, and only that? 08:56:25 <Elessar> I wonder why OpenGRF is 8bpp, is that for compatibility reasons? 08:56:35 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@87.220.69.0] has joined #openttd 08:56:36 <Eddi|zuHause> Elessar: only the first half. it is unlikely that support for the old graphics will be removed 08:57:20 <Eddi|zuHause> Elessar: OpenGFX 8bpp was started because the 32bpp set was unlikely to get anywhere 08:57:20 <Elessar> And, wait, what is 32bpp, a palette from a 48bpp color space? 08:57:40 <peter1138> 32bpp is 32bpp 08:57:43 <peter1138> RGBA 08:57:44 <Elessar> 32 seams too few divisible by 3, to me. 08:57:54 <Elessar> Oh, yes, indeed. 08:57:55 <Eddi|zuHause> no, it's 24bpp colour space plus 8 bit alpha 08:59:52 <Elessar> I am really amazed by the quality of OpenGRF, compared to the TDD set, knowing that it only has 256 colors. Congratulations to the artists who did them, it is impressive. 09:01:11 <Eddi|zuHause> well, the advantages of 32bpp over 8bpp is not really that you have more colours (that is barely noticeable by the eye), the advantage is easier image conversion algorithms 09:02:10 <Elessar> It should be easier for anti-aliasing, I think. 09:02:18 <Eddi|zuHause> that, for example. 09:02:49 <SpComb^> is there some set of 8bpp OpenGFX screenshots somewhere? 09:03:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure the screenshots forum is full of them... 09:03:20 <Elessar> That is why I am impressed by OpenGRF: contrary to the original set, it seems more smooth to me, and I cannot even imagine the work to anti-alias 8bpp graphics. 09:03:39 <Elessar> <http://media.openttd.org/images/screens/0.7/desert_island_opengfx_planetmaker_20090712.png>? 09:03:47 <SpComb^> for someone who hasn't ever played with OpenGFX, there should be some kind of "before and after" comparsison 09:04:04 <peter1138> SpComb^, install it, then switch it in the options 09:04:12 <peter1138> compare and constrast the intro game... 09:04:39 <Elessar> With the original set, I had difficulties to identify what was what, due to the aliasing. 09:06:54 <SpComb^> peter1138: mmeh, I'd preferr http:// 09:10:02 <SpComb^> but I do see the idea behind 1.0.0 now 09:11:32 <peter1138> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/ 09:11:38 <peter1138> if you really want to avoid using the content system 09:12:14 <Eddi|zuHause> :) 09:12:34 <SpComb^> silly 09:15:02 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:16:29 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 09:18:45 <peter1138> heh, playing on public servers with people you don't know... 09:18:54 <peter1138> they all just make point-to-point links 09:19:13 <SpComb^> yay fun 09:19:15 <Forked> nice work on getting to 1.0.0 =) 09:19:17 <peter1138> no grasp of signalling... 09:19:28 <Forked> by devs and those who made the replacement gfx and sfx 09:19:36 <SpComb^> and those are the users you've been working so hard for! 09:19:46 <peter1138> yup 09:20:03 <SpComb^> and they wouldn't even be able to tell a Path signal from a Block signal 09:20:23 <SpComb^> not to speak of Path Sempahores or Block Semaphores! 09:20:36 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/ohdearme.png < yes 09:22:23 * roboboy might try and join a 1.0.0 beta public server 09:22:37 <Zuu> peter1138: That one at least has got started with some network thinking. 09:22:51 <peter1138> no, it's point to point with crossovers 09:23:02 <SpComb^> nice depot track 09:23:51 <SpComb^> I guess one train goes to wait in the depot, the other one passes, ???? 09:24:09 <peter1138> yeah 09:24:17 <peter1138> one train is lost 09:24:33 <peter1138> so it just goes back and forth to the station (not in its list) and depot 09:38:03 <roboboy> is there a cargodest patch in stable/beta OpenTTD? 09:40:33 <Rubidium> is it mentioned in the changelog? 09:41:53 <SpComb^> roboboy: look in http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=41992 for cargodist 09:42:40 <SpComb^> so hmm, are distros like debian going to have 'openttd' and 'openttd-data' packages or such in the future? 09:43:14 <SpComb^> i.e. will there be a click-through-synaptic-and-play install path in the future? 09:43:48 <SpComb^> seems like installing 1.0.0b1 with OpenGFX/OpenSFX is still a pretty manual process 09:44:55 <Rubidium> SpComb^: probably yes 09:45:17 <Rubidium> but those distros usually don't package pretty early beta stuff 09:45:51 <SpComb^> it might be nice if the OpenGFX/SFX projects provided .deb's 09:46:00 <SpComb^> but I couldn't find any 09:46:26 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc271d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:47:21 <Rubidium> SpComb^: the OpenTTD packager is currently working on making them for Debian, so they'll eventually come 10:00:33 <peter1138> heh 10:00:42 <peter1138> now another silly person is building terminus-drive-throughs 10:00:51 <peter1138> a drive-through stop that ends 10:02:29 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-52f7e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:02:43 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-52f7e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 10:04:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18626 /trunk/src/table/strgen_tables.h: -Fix [FS#3425]: {CARGO} takes 2 parameters, not 1. This made {N:XYZ} commands after CARGO mess up their indices and that then triggered an assertion 10:06:50 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:12:10 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 10:12:20 <roboboy> peter1138: what server? 10:12:27 *** pavel1269 [~pavel1269@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 10:14:19 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 10:16:25 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:17:38 <Alberth> peter1138: can you not help the terminus-drive-throughs person by adding a circle around the stop? 10:21:53 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:22:43 <roboboy> !logs 10:25:07 <SpComb^> hmm, openttdcoop's gotten a bit further, with some variation 10:25:47 <SpComb^> peter1138: doesn't that still work, though? 10:26:15 <Brianetta> Ain't you people got chocolate to eat? 10:29:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:32:11 <Sacro> morning all, merry christmas 10:33:43 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-52f7e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:33:51 *** Aali [~aali@h-90-31.A189.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:34:02 *** Aali [~aali@h-90-31.A189.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 10:37:13 <peter1138> main problem is they only had 1 stop serving half a dozen vehicles 10:37:22 <peter1138> some of those full-loading, others supplying... 10:44:16 <Sacro> http://www.isitchristmas.com/ 10:50:42 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:03:17 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:08:30 <Eddi|zuHause> the code is wrong 11:08:52 <Eddi|zuHause> christmas lasts from the evening of the 24th to the 26th 11:16:42 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:19:04 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.19.96.67] has joined #openttd 11:39:16 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D997B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:44:00 *** mrfreeze [~mrfreeze@mrfreeze.fr] has joined #openttd 11:45:46 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:45:56 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:46:21 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 11:51:12 <SpComb^> yay for optimized terminuses 11:51:22 <SpComb^> three platforms, and then out/in/out tracks 11:51:41 <SpComb^> you can always fit two trains going in/out at the same time 11:52:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r18627 /trunk/src/os/windows/crashlog_win.cpp: -Fix: no need to print 'Registers:' twice in win64 crash logs 12:03:16 *** George3 is now known as George 12:04:50 <George> //!!Error (117): Offset 2: Invalid operation 80. 12:04:50 <George> 14 * 9 0D 00 80 01 FE "VC" 00 01 12:05:20 <George> You can add 80 to the operation number to make it apply only if the target is not defined yet. In this respect, a parameter is taken to be defined if any of the following applies: 12:05:20 <George> 12:05:44 <George> So, why NFO renum reports the error? 12:16:25 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 12:19:00 *** dragonhorseboy [~zerovnc@modemcable246.69-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 12:21:20 *** asilv [~asilvio@dsl-lprbrasgw1-fe9afa00-232.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:22:38 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:24:55 *** Brianetta [~brian@78-105-191-80.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 12:28:45 <SpComb^> yay, two trains in, two trains out, simultaneously on a 5-platform terminus 12:29:51 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:30:06 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [] 12:30:13 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:32:16 <dragonhorseboy> heh 12:32:22 <dragonhorseboy> spcomb :) 12:33:02 <dragonhorseboy> how're you? 12:33:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39:12 <Eddi|zuHause> George: what's operation 0? 12:41:08 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B47064.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:01:10 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.29] has joined #openttd 13:01:11 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:15:11 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:33:14 <SpComb^> dragonhorseboy: playing, OpenTTD :P 13:36:02 <dragonhorseboy> heh funny enough me too 13:44:13 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:01:32 <roboboy> gnight 14:03:20 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:07:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:07:53 *** DJGummik1h [~joey@ip3007.saw.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:07:54 *** DJGummikuh [~joey@ip3007.saw.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #openttd 14:08:29 *** valhalla2w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:10:50 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:11:43 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:12:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:18:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:23 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:30:56 *** dragonhorseboy [~zerovnc@modemcable246.69-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 14:34:54 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 14:36:55 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:43:43 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:b9a4:a76:4e4:adfd] has joined #openttd 14:43:46 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:46:43 *** valhalla2w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56:35 *** Schallterrorist [~godcmplx@dslb-188-102-054-118.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:58:38 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B47064.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:59:48 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 14:59:53 <Schallterrorist> hello, i have a question ... is there any chance of keeping the length of my trains with automatically replace if the waggons lengths are different? 15:02:41 <Rubidium> only when the train grows and you enable it; not when the train shrinks due to autoreplace 15:02:56 <Alberth> http://wiki.openttd.org/Autoreplace#Wagon_removal 15:03:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03:41 <Schallterrorist> yes it grows up, i want to change from short waggons to long (2cc) 15:04:25 <Rubidium> then use the wagon removal 'feature' of autoreplace 15:04:39 <Schallterrorist> aahhh i see thx a lot :) 15:05:07 <Schallterrorist> i dont have to replace all my 2345 trains hand by hand ... *sic* 15:05:56 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B47064.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:06:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:08:48 *** manu [~manu@09GAAAIP5.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:14:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think "sic" means what you think it does 15:15:51 <Eddi|zuHause> Schallterrorist: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic 15:16:43 <Schallterrorist> ich hab auch nur das k vergessen ;) genauso wie ich die 3 und 4 vertauscht hab ^^ es sollte 2435 werden ... ;) 15:16:57 <Sacro> sic is when the quote you post contains inaccuracies that were in there originally 15:45:33 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:46:27 *** Schallterrorist [~godcmplx@dslb-188-102-054-118.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. And at last we will have our revenge! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::] 15:53:12 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@brln-4dbc00ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:54:25 *** MrDetermination [4c12983a@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:54:45 <MrDetermination> Merry Christmas. Whats the best way to give feedback on the testing release? 15:54:53 <PeterT> The forum topic 15:55:05 <PeterT> MrDetermination: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=46448 15:55:34 <Eddi|zuHause> MrDetermination: bugreports go to bugs.openttd.org 15:55:58 <MrDetermination> thank you :) 15:58:50 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 15:58:55 *** PeterT [4160cb23@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:58:58 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc271d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:32 *** MrDetermination [4c12983a@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 16:14:20 *** manu [~manu@09GAAAIP5.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16:17 *** MyCatSchemes [~mycatverb@5ac7ac11.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:28:30 *** pavel1269 [~pavel1269@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: ^^] 16:29:29 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has quit [Server closed connection] 16:29:42 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 16:35:00 *** PeterT [4160cb23@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: Merry Christmas!] 16:56:08 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-86-27-136-83.winn.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:04:39 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-129-240.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 17:13:04 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9C92.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:16:07 *** muszek [~muszek@box137.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 17:17:25 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:32:46 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@109.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 17:37:48 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@87.220.69.0] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:41:05 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9C92.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:43:35 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9C92.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:51:16 *** Madis [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 17:52:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:58:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:01:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18628 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#3422]: (un)loading counter being reset while loading a train and changing the (path) signal setup around the station 18:04:13 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B47064.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:14:42 *** Madis [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]] 18:19:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DDF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:19:41 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 18:20:05 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DDF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:28:23 <SpComb^> feature request: make town names in chat messages clickable as goto-links 18:29:55 <Rubidium> and then... station names and industry names too? 18:30:06 <SpComb^> next up :) 18:30:10 <Rubidium> oh, we shouldn't forget names either, right? 18:30:12 <Rubidium> and signs 18:31:13 <planetmaker> Alt+klick 18:31:18 <planetmaker> s/k/c/ 18:31:34 <Rubidium> planetmaker: don't think that dragging the window helps 18:31:36 <Eddi|zuHause> that is a hellishly stupid idea :p 18:31:49 <planetmaker> he :-) 18:32:06 <planetmaker> so.. maybe alt+ctrl+shift+meta+capslock+click ;-) 18:32:29 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: do not forget adding a mouseover-change-curser-appearance feature ;) 18:33:51 <Rubidium> and then you're building something and someone says something and you're magically in a previously unknown (for you) area of the map 18:34:22 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: so you also add a "go back to previous location" button 18:34:23 <Rubidium> SpComb^: and what when the names have spaces in them? 18:34:23 <planetmaker> yes. Revealing the fog of war of a place I'm not supposed to see... bad idea indeed 18:34:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i remember Siedler had that, and i loved it... 18:35:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i could safely check out news message locations and go back to what i did before 18:36:25 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8db67.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:45 <Eddi|zuHause> and why is my USB stick so slow suddenly? 18:37:17 <Eddi|zuHause> it's empty and copying to it goes like <10kB/s 18:37:55 <planetmaker> SSD don't write sequentially, but balance the number of write operations over their nodes or however those are called. If those are scattered... 18:38:21 <planetmaker> well... shouldn't matter much... it's no spinning disc. 18:39:01 <Eddi|zuHause> exactly... it's fairly new and only written to sequentially a few times 18:40:40 <SpComb^> Rubidium: well, if you're playing co-op, and someone's talking about some town or other... 18:40:55 <SpComb^> you're playing and a news message pops up... 18:41:26 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B47064.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:43:15 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... it's also very hot 18:45:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r18629 /trunk/src/lang/ (czech.txt danish.txt indonesian.txt russian.txt): 18:45:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: croatian - 36 changes by 18:45:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: czech - 63 changes by martin_meridius 18:45:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: danish - 21 changes by beruic 18:45:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: indonesian - 14 changes by adjayanto 18:45:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: russian - 20 changes by Lone_Wolf 18:48:02 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.244.80] has joined #openttd 18:49:07 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:50:02 <sparr> does openttd break multiplayer compatibility every new revision? 18:50:38 <sparr> that is, if r12345 has no network/multiplayer/gameplay/savegame patches, can it play with r12344? 18:50:57 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, no. 18:57:40 <sparr> that makes me sad :( 18:58:01 <sparr> need to figure out how to install multiple versions side by side in linux 18:58:57 *** octo [octo@if-loop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 18:59:05 *** octo [octo@if-loop.org] has joined #openttd 19:01:21 <Rubidium> --binary-name? 19:01:24 *** Redrocco [~me@68-191-69-142.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com] has joined #openttd 19:01:44 <Rubidium> or just don't install and run from the directory where you compiled them in 19:01:53 <sparr> Rubidium: I would really prefer to use debs, so things dont get disorganized 19:02:16 <sparr> right now i'm just reinstalling every time i launch the game... adds about 10 seconds to the launch time, but i have shortcuts for 3 different versions 19:02:19 <Rubidium> then you're screwed 19:02:42 <PeterT> Why would you want to use debs to run 3 different versions? 19:03:24 <sparr> easier to organize 19:03:29 <sparr> than having 3 source trees 19:03:38 <Rubidium> I've got 10 different source trees 19:03:48 <sparr> precisely 19:04:05 <sparr> also takes up less hd space 19:04:32 <Rubidium> and bin/openttd for me is way easier than uninstall deb, install deb, run openttd 19:04:53 <sparr> no uninstall required :) 19:05:07 <Rubidium> you mean it likely downgrading? 19:05:22 <sparr> dunno which direction you would consider "down", but yes 19:05:40 <Rubidium> from 0.7.5 to 0.3.0 is imo down 19:05:47 <sparr> of course :) 19:05:59 <sparr> but 0.7.5 to 1.0.0-beta1 to 0.8.0-svn? 19:06:18 <Rubidium> first if upgrading, second is downgrading 19:06:18 <sparr> 0.8.0-svn is newer than 1.0.0-beta1 19:06:36 <Rubidium> nope 19:06:53 <sparr> has been since a few hours after 1.0.0-beta1 was forked 19:06:57 <sparr> branched, whatever 19:07:32 <PeterT> 1.0.0-beta1 hasn't been branched 19:07:35 <PeterT> yet 19:07:50 <Rubidium> I'm fairly certain that 0.8.0-svn was only used before 1.0.0-beta1 19:08:09 <sparr> 1.0.0-beta1 was released 19 hours before the most recent nightly 19:08:21 <sparr> not sure how to get the revision # for beta1 19:08:43 <Rubidium> you don't, cause it's isn't strictly a revision of trunk 19:08:55 <Rubidium> sparr: and the version of the most recent nightly is? 19:08:58 <sparr> well, i mean the revision it was forked from 19:09:21 <Rubidium> r18622 19:10:05 <sparr> ahh, i see what you mean 19:10:20 <sparr> the nightlies are now 1.0~svn-1 19:10:42 <Rubidium> hmm, I missed a zero there :( 19:11:00 <sparr> so now i've got 4 versions :) 19:11:47 <sparr> 0.7.5 (stable) and 0.8~svn-1 (previous nightly) and 1.0~svn-1 (nightly) and 1.0~svn-1 (beta1) 19:12:41 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:16:03 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@219.104.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 19:17:12 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18630 /trunk/src/ (screenshot.cpp screenshot.h): -Fix [FS#3419]: when making a screenshot the name of the previous screenshot went missing in the 'successful screenshot' message 19:17:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18631 /trunk/src/console_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#3419]: when making a screenshot from the console the currently executed command would be shown twice 19:19:27 *** mrfreeze [~mrfreeze@mrfreeze.fr] has left #openttd [] 19:22:53 * Forked forks in two 19:23:12 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:55 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:26:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:27:00 <Kovensky> <nanohasan> must be something about breakdowns 19:27:00 <Kovensky> <nanohasan> if you build a terminus with depots at the end the trains enter the depot first and after that pbsblock a path out of the station while still loading, thus blocking the whole station 19:28:04 <Kovensky> can 1.0 connect to a 0.7.5 server? 19:28:30 <SpComb^> no 19:30:18 <Kovensky> ic 19:30:29 <Kovensky> I suppose a nightly also can't connect to a 1.0 server 19:30:54 <Kovensky> wat 19:30:59 <Kovensky> $ ./openttd --help 19:31:01 <Kovensky> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 19:31:01 <Kovensky> 0x080dd0ba in SQObjectPtr::~SQObjectPtr() () 19:31:16 <Kovensky> #15 0x080fa8d3 in AI::Initialize() () 19:31:17 <Kovensky> hmm 19:31:56 <Kovensky> no, deleting ~/.openttd doesn't help :( 19:33:10 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Never look down on someone unless you're helping them up.] 19:33:27 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@host81-135-85-113.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:33:37 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B2BBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:37 <PeterT> Does anyone use MSYS on windows? 19:34:44 <PeterT> How long does make bundle usually take? 19:42:09 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B16BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:42:12 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:42:37 <Rubidium> Kovensky: what version of OpenTTD is that? 19:43:52 <Kovensky> 1.0b1 19:44:02 <Kovensky> ./configure --enable-dedicated CFLAGS=-m32 LDFLAGS=-m32 19:44:27 <Rubidium> does it work when you leave out those flags? 19:45:16 <Eddi|zuHause> that's the same error as the arm guy had? 19:45:21 <Rubidium> if not, can you make a tarball with all the AIs/AI libraries you've got? 19:45:45 <Kovensky> Rubidium: I removed ~/.openttd/ai, so there should be no AIs 19:45:59 <Kovensky> and even if I didn't, the only AI I have installed is AdmiralAI 19:46:09 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@80.247.163.107] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:46:09 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@80.247.163.107] has joined #openttd 19:46:36 <Rubidium> Kovensky: did you also remove ~/.openttd/content_download/ai ? 19:46:51 <Kovensky> hmm, after this recompile it worked 19:47:17 <Kovensky> I had built with "./configure --without-sdl --without-freetype --without-fontconfig --without-allegro --enable-dedicated" before, actually 19:47:20 <Kovensky> I forgot :X 19:47:23 <planetmaker> [20:34] <PeterT> How long does make bundle usually take? <-- highly depends. 5 ... 50 minutes, I guess 19:47:31 <PeterT> Hmm 19:47:31 <Kovensky> I changed the flags to what I pasted here on the latest build though 19:47:36 <Kovensky> which is what was running right now 19:47:40 <PeterT> planetmaker, do you have a copy of u2d? 19:47:46 <Kovensky> oh well 19:47:51 * Kovensky packs and uploads to his server 19:47:53 * planetmaker has no idea what u2d might be 19:47:54 <Eddi|zuHause> Kovensky: so can you reconfigure to recreate the error? 19:48:28 <PeterT> planetmaker, unix2dos 19:48:45 <Eddi|zuHause> PeterT: so why not say that in the first place? 19:48:53 <planetmaker> well, yes, I do have one. The one which sudo port install unix2dos installed. 19:49:03 <PeterT> Ah 19:49:05 <Kovensky> <Eddi|zuHause> Kovensky: so can you reconfigure to recreate the error? <-- "./configure --without-sdl --without-freetype --without-fontconfig --without-allegro --enable-dedicated CFLAGS=-m32 LDFLAGS=-m32" recreates it 19:49:19 <Kovensky> I'll just get this working build to the server and then I'll try reproducing the bug again 19:49:52 *** Madis [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 19:50:06 <PeterT> what are pdbs supposed to be opened with? 19:50:11 <PeterT> PDBs 19:50:50 <planetmaker> google is your friend 19:51:06 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:51:34 <Eddi|zuHause> with the debugger, obviously... 19:52:29 <Rubidium> planetmaker: u2d -> you too dumb? 19:53:19 <planetmaker> :-D 19:53:43 <planetmaker> you too distracted ;-) 19:53:55 <MyCatSchemes> I read it as "unsigned to decimal". 19:54:07 <MyCatSchemes> Perhaps I'm too comfortable with printf(3). :) 19:57:00 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-129-240.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:59:03 <Kovensky> I read it as "unix to dos" 20:03:00 <Rubidium> hmm, can't recreate Kovensky's issue here, although I have done --without-zlib and --without-libpng too 20:03:11 <SmatZ> neither I 20:03:27 <Rubidium> does a 'make mrproper' help? 20:03:38 <SmatZ> I copied the command line exactly as given 20:04:23 <SmatZ> src/lang/czech.txt:1301: FATAL: invalid argidx -1 20:04:24 <SmatZ> hmm 20:04:58 <Kovensky> $ ./openttd -D 20:04:59 <Kovensky> Error: Failed to find a sounds set. Please acquire a sounds set for OpenTTD. See section 4.1 of readme.txt. 20:05:01 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 20:05:03 <Kovensky> D: 20:05:08 <Kovensky> even dedi needs a sound set? 20:05:24 <Kovensky> (or is that a bug) 20:05:37 <SmatZ> eddi needs a sound set 20:05:59 <Rubidium> Kovensky: yes, it needs a sound set for NewGRF compatability reasons. You can use the 'nosound' set though 20:06:26 <PeterT> The link in the compiling on msvc is broken 20:06:32 <Rubidium> available at http://binaries.openttd.org/extra/nosound/1.0.0/ 20:06:43 <PeterT> in the /docs/Readme_Windows_MSVC.txt 20:07:17 <Rubidium> although... I reckon we might package that with OpenTTD; it's trivial and won't change anyway 20:07:56 <Kovensky> where do I put nosound 20:08:05 <Rubidium> in the data/ directory 20:08:16 <PeterT> http://pastebin.com/m54b54138 20:08:34 <Rubidium> there where OpenGFX also is 20:08:38 <Kovensky> oh, it's -S NoSound, not nosound 20:09:01 <Kovensky> now I'm missing the graphics ._. 20:09:07 * Kovensky uploads his tr* 20:09:55 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejb149.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 20:11:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18632 /trunk/src/lang/czech.txt: -Fix (r18629): error in string caused failure of Czech language 20:13:33 *** richardh [~richardh@BSN-61-7-95.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has joined #openttd 20:18:28 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:27:11 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 20:28:18 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B47064.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:30:14 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-61-33.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:32:50 <richardh> Get windows keys for 5eur only http://bit.ly/5Tgz2X :) 20:32:55 *** richardh [~richardh@BSN-61-7-95.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. 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(2009-12-25 20:32:55)] 20:38:30 <planetmaker> hm... autokill got quicker it seems 20:48:06 *** Sirenia [~sirenia@93.186.164.51] has quit [Server closed connection] 20:48:38 *** Sirenia [~sirenia@93.186.164.51] has joined #openttd 20:50:04 *** Brianetta [~brian@78-105-191-80.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:54:37 *** Madis [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]] 20:56:57 *** ashb [~ash@callisto.firemirror.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 20:57:11 *** ashb [~ash@callisto.firemirror.com] has joined #openttd 21:00:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:19 <Eddi|zuHause> how lovely it could be if it hit _before_ delivering the spam message 21:03:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF12.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:05:54 *** TrueBrain_ [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has joined #openttd 21:06:28 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:07:47 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 21:13:10 *** Omnituens [~A1@host86-133-89-218.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:13:16 *** davis_ [~davis-@p5B289935.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:14:18 <Omnituens> hi guys, a few of us are trying to get a game up, but some of us are getting REALLY low transfer rates for the map, while some are fine 21:14:47 <glx> blame the ISPs 21:14:49 <Omnituens> are there any known issues? we've tried 0.7.5 and 1.0.0 21:15:30 <Omnituens> i'll check isp's now 21:24:23 <welshdragon> Omnituens: it's an ISP problem 21:24:34 <welshdragon> internet speeds are very slow everywhere 21:25:22 <Omnituens> ok thanks 21:28:25 *** Redrocco [~me@68-191-69-142.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com] has quit [] 21:29:15 *** bartaway is now known as bartavelle 21:32:07 *** bartavelle is now known as bartaway 21:39:53 *** worldemar [~woldemar@85.114.170.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:46:00 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 21:51:35 *** pavel1269 [~pavel1269@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 22:02:49 *** davis_ [~davis-@p5B289935.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 22:05:50 *** asilv [~asilvio@dsl-lprbrasgw1-fe9afa00-232.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 22:06:16 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.236.78] has joined #openttd 22:26:10 <__ln> 1.0.0-beta, are you serious? 22:28:08 <SmatZ> no 22:30:34 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-129-240.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 22:38:22 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:38:31 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:40:14 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejb149.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 22:41:22 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 22:41:28 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:49:10 <welshdragon> any devs around? 22:49:31 <welshdragon> actually, it's specifically Hirundo i need 22:50:44 <welshdragon> ...it's christmas 22:50:51 <welshdragon> i'll file a flyspray bug 22:52:32 <SmatZ> Hirundo isn't OTTD dev 22:54:00 <welshdragon> he's IS2 beta dev 22:54:45 <SmatZ> IS2 isn't official, bugs.openttd.org isn't the place where you should open a bugreport about it 22:55:18 <welshdragon> basically it's either OpenTTD, or Flyspray, or IS2, or OSX: I have nars 2.03 installed, but openttd is2b5 can't 'see' it 22:55:34 <welshdragon> nor will bananas finish downloading 22:55:55 <welshdragon> it stops when it gets to 1.20mb 22:57:16 <Aali> get a clean copy of the same revision IS2b5 is built on top off and try that 23:02:10 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02:20 <welshdragon> i've posted it on http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=42254&p=843355#p843355 23:02:37 <dihedral> There are 207 clients, 173 IPv4 servers and 1 IPv6 servers. <- yay - more clients than servers 23:10:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r18633 /trunk/src/core/smallvec_type.hpp: -Codechange: fortify SmallVector a bit more 23:11:07 <SpComb^> dihedral: madness, add more servers 23:11:21 <Rubidium> needs more IPv6 servers! 23:11:51 <SpComb^> I have an IPv6 server, but it isn't listed :( 23:14:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18634 /trunk/src/saveload/saveload.cpp: 23:14:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Revert (r16808): the fix doesn't work in all cases 23:14:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#3421] (r16838): crash when invalid pointers are left due to saveload failing at e.g. decompressing the savegame 23:15:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r18635 /trunk/src/texteff.cpp: -Codechange: store TextEffects in a SmallVector 23:16:42 <orudge> dihedral: how rare 23:17:12 <welshdragon> rear 23:17:18 <welshdragon> you mean rear 23:17:25 <orudge> well, no, I don't 23:18:06 <welshdragon> ;) 23:22:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r18636 /trunk/src/ (misc_gui.cpp texteff.cpp texteff.hpp): -Codechange: make TextEffect::duration a value in ticks instead of ticks * 8 23:27:30 <PeterT> There are 207 clients, 173 IPv4 servers and 1 IPv6 servers. <- yay - more clients than servers <-- As if that was unusual... 23:27:40 <orudge> well 23:27:41 <orudge> it is rather 23:27:46 <orudge> generally there are more servers than clients 23:28:51 <PeterT> who is the one ipv6 server, lol? 23:29:05 <orudge> there are normally more IPv6 servers 23:29:14 <orudge> on the occasions that I run a server, tis both IPv4 and IPv6 23:29:16 <orudge> for IPv6 is awesome 23:29:19 * orudge has ordered an IPv6 printer! 23:29:33 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 23:31:13 <Rubidium> so now you're printing "IPv6" on everything you can lay your hands on? :) 23:31:20 <orudge> well 23:31:26 <orudge> the manual claims the printer supports IPv6 23:31:34 <orudge> I didn't really buy it because of that specifically, however :p 23:31:37 * orudge prints IPv6 on Rubidium 23:32:39 *** MyCatSchemes [~mycatverb@5ac7ac11.bb.sky.com] has left #openttd [Leaving] 23:37:28 *** pavel1269 [~pavel1269@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: ^^] 23:40:16 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:40:48 <SpComb^> orudge: I wonder what taht means 23:41:31 <SpComb^> "works on a network with IPv6, as longas you use IPv4" 23:41:32 <Terkhen> good night 23:41:33 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@109.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 23:47:29 <orudge> SpComb^: we shall see 23:56:44 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]