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Unfortunately 06:06:21 <andythenorth> nvm 06:11:38 <planetmaker> let me guess: cobble is the surface cover you get when you put many cobble stones adjacent to eachother in order to cover the street? 06:12:00 <andythenorth> yes 06:12:19 <andythenorth> probably should be cobbled or cobbles 06:12:50 <planetmaker> No idea either way. So far I just new the word "cobble stone" ;-) 06:13:12 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:13:47 <andythenorth> the FIRS ones are actually stone setts 06:13:52 <andythenorth> but I'm not too worried 06:14:12 <planetmaker> In restless dreams I walked alone. Narrow streets of cobble stone neath the halo of a street lamp,... 06:15:13 <planetmaker> hehe. Name a typical station tile - "mud" :-P 06:15:41 <andythenorth> hmm 06:15:56 <andythenorth> drawing small crossings is a bit pot luck with railtypes 06:15:59 <andythenorth> I might not bother :P 06:19:51 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 06:20:33 <andythenorth> :o 06:20:41 <andythenorth> the DWE station set has a lot of cargo support I'd missed 06:23:58 <planetmaker> yup 06:24:19 <planetmaker> it's unarguably the best station set made in the last 24 months or so 06:24:33 <planetmaker> and one of the best anyway 06:25:06 <andythenorth> hmm 06:25:16 <andythenorth> well there's no point replicating his work ;) 06:25:17 <planetmaker> even though of course it still has a lot of potential for improvements 06:34:40 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 06:36:08 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:44:49 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:52:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AEAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:53:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AEAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 06:59:46 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:17:49 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0a2942.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:18:23 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3385.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:23:02 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 07:24:41 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 07:34:45 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:36:41 * andythenorth does hate bounding boxes 07:37:36 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B73C2.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 07:37:58 <andythenorth> Yexo: I need the sorter to draw S buffers above any train using the station 07:38:01 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B73C2.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 07:38:04 <andythenorth> can't figure out what I need to set to do that 07:38:09 <andythenorth> your test station does it 07:38:12 <andythenorth> mine don't :( 07:38:53 <V453000> I know I may be getting annoying with the ISR but will chips have at least some transition tiles? :)) 07:39:29 <andythenorth> no 07:39:37 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B73C2.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 07:39:41 <andythenorth> they're not massively needed for concrete-concrete 07:39:45 <andythenorth> it looks ok 07:40:09 <V453000> maybe for the brown-ier ones like the brewery styled :) 07:40:43 <andythenorth> if it bothers you, see if Dante123 will add them to DWE 07:40:53 <andythenorth> that already has a class for transition tiles ;) 07:41:01 <V453000> :D 07:41:09 <V453000> interesting point.. 07:41:23 <andythenorth> I'm making CHIPS for me mostly :) 07:41:37 <andythenorth> I make simple stations 07:41:55 <V453000> :[ 07:42:52 <andythenorth> he 07:42:58 <andythenorth> the concrete tile matches to airport 07:43:52 <devilsadvocate> it would be nice to have station tiles that were not platform tiles 07:43:56 <devilsadvocate> as in 07:44:18 <devilsadvocate> tiles you could put in, but which the trains would just see as regular track 07:44:22 <devilsadvocate> and not stop there 07:44:35 <andythenorth> waypoints 07:44:40 <V453000> just make a new station 07:44:43 <V453000> and set non stop orders 07:44:47 <devilsadvocate> hm. 07:44:52 <devilsadvocate> that would work 07:45:03 <V453000> I use it often so it surely would :) 07:45:47 <andythenorth> why do you need a station that's not a station? 07:45:52 <V453000> candy :) 07:45:58 <V453000> just making trains go through it 07:50:53 <devilsadvocate> yeah. for example, the tiles for the marshalling yards 07:51:00 <devilsadvocate> or random cranes and stuff 07:59:45 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:11:52 <andythenorth> is it useful when stations display cargo waiting? 08:13:28 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3385.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 08:23:26 <Terkhen> good morning 08:28:45 *** ar3k [ident@bul143.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 08:28:48 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 08:30:00 <planetmaker> moin Terkhen 08:30:36 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 08:33:40 *** Nemoder [~quassel@75-142-76-62.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has left #openttd [http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 08:37:32 <planetmaker> hm, AIs can be really fun to watch :-) 08:37:47 <planetmaker> I didn't look at them for quite some time. They got a lot better it seems :-9 08:37:53 <planetmaker> :-) 08:39:48 <andythenorth> I wish they'd just play the game for me : 08:40:02 <andythenorth> can we teach them to draw pixels? :o 08:41:34 <planetmaker> andythenorth: it seems they can play the game for you. NoCab is a very good guess to see a game being played it seems 08:41:45 <planetmaker> though I didn't start this game with FIRS 08:42:27 <andythenorth> any opinion on cargo waiting graphics? 08:42:50 <planetmaker> "always want that" 08:43:22 <planetmaker> the only annoying thing is that it is hardly displayed, if you provide good service 08:43:49 <planetmaker> I'd rather like to have (also) a component which draws cargo depending on the amount of turn-over 08:52:29 <andythenorth> hmm 08:52:38 <andythenorth> I like cargo display 08:52:50 <andythenorth> but it's only actually useful when it shows a problem 08:54:07 <planetmaker> hu? 08:54:27 <andythenorth> I mostly use it to spot a station with bad service 08:55:18 <andythenorth> I guess I'm a minority in that 09:02:31 <Terkhen> I do that too: a good station is empty 09:07:21 <planetmaker> well, yes, they are. Sadly. 09:10:22 <planetmaker> Hm. I wonder whether a station can show the respective cargo, if it is transported there. No matter how much is waiting :-) 09:10:29 <planetmaker> I guess it's feasible. 09:11:15 <andythenorth> it is 09:11:17 <andythenorth> I think 09:11:27 <andythenorth> there are some bizarre varaction 2s available for stations :P 09:11:32 <Terkhen> I would like to see something on the lines of "show last month cargo"; it does not make much sense realism-wise but it would be helpful 09:11:35 <planetmaker> Like a pile of containers for goods. A pile of steel bars when steel is transported. Logs for wood, vehicles for ENSP, etc. 09:12:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.188.179] has joined #openttd 09:12:07 <andythenorth> is that because it's nice, or because it's useful in managing your network? 09:12:09 <planetmaker> Terkhen: yeah, like that. And it would look nicer than empty platforms 09:12:13 <planetmaker> both 09:12:26 <andythenorth> I mostly use it as an 'out of condition' warning :) 09:12:31 <planetmaker> I like cargo display on stations. And it's a quick view what is going on 09:12:57 <andythenorth> I think maybe I use it less with FIRS because the ISR support is incomplete 09:12:58 <planetmaker> the condition warning... well. I don't really need that, though it works also as that 09:13:06 <planetmaker> but a station could have both kind of tiles 09:15:44 <andythenorth> how about a flashing red light when there is too much cargo :P 09:15:53 <andythenorth> Andon! 09:18:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.167.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:19:45 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:19:49 <planetmaker> andythenorth: not useful. The amount of acceptable waiting cargo depends on the amount of turn over 09:19:59 <andythenorth> I guess 09:20:07 <andythenorth> it will vary by play style 09:20:11 <andythenorth> for me it's about 500t 09:20:17 <andythenorth> maximum 09:20:27 <planetmaker> there's no specific max. It depends on the industry output 09:20:36 <planetmaker> as cargo is delivered in chunks 09:20:55 *** wargh [51ea85b5@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 09:21:02 <planetmaker> a huge industry will push much cargo, so there's at least shortly a huge amount of cargo, even if trains are loading 09:21:06 <planetmaker> but that's still acceptable 09:21:13 <planetmaker> different for small industries 09:21:23 <planetmaker> where it piles up for months. Rating will still be bad 09:21:35 <planetmaker> it goes by %, not by absolute numbers 09:30:34 <wargh> When I've been playing for about 50-60 years my game starts to studder (I think htats the right word), I think it's due to one of the AI's, is there any way to see how much computertime each AI takes up, or do I have tp try each AI individually for 50+ years? I don't think the problem is my computer, a C2D@3GHz 09:36:37 *** ar3kaw [ident@bul143.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:38:37 <Terkhen> wargh: how much AIs are you using? 09:38:42 <Terkhen> s/much/many/ 09:39:43 <planetmaker> many ;-) 09:39:58 <planetmaker> 11 09:40:17 <wargh> Let me check 09:40:21 <planetmaker> I'm way too lazy to run 11 test games. So they have to compete among themselves 09:40:31 <planetmaker> oh. wargh is a name :-P 09:40:41 <Terkhen> :) 09:40:50 <planetmaker> sounds like "aargh". 09:41:02 <planetmaker> ;-) No offence meant, though 09:41:29 <Terkhen> for tests a big number is fine, but for normal games it quickly becomes unplayable, even with a powerful processor 09:41:36 <wargh> Seven.It takes more to offend me. :P 09:41:47 <planetmaker> yes. fast forward already is nearly useless on the testgame here 09:42:28 <wargh> But three of them have no vehicles atm. If that matters att all. 09:42:43 <Terkhen> wargh: there are some AIs known to cause slowness (I don't know which ones, maybe someone else can help you with that) but 7 is quite a lot already 09:42:45 <planetmaker> Hm. Admiral AI once was better... It somehow never can make up its mind.... 09:43:11 <Terkhen> if they have no vehicles they are probably looping through the map and calculating what they are going to do 09:43:12 <wargh> Admiral seems to do good at the start but then it fades away 09:43:55 <wargh> Ok, I set two of them to use trains only, they almost never get anywhere. Mainly becuase I play on maps with a lot of hills and water 09:44:47 <wargh> I'm pretty sure one of them is caught in a loop or something as you say. I was hoping that there where maybe some way to see in game in a AI was doing something like that which could slow down the game. 09:45:19 <wargh> But it takes about 50-60 years each game before it happens, and then it becomes unplayable 09:46:21 <wargh> And I've lowered the amout of AI's each game so currently I use OTVI, Roadrunner, Admiral, Clueless and Nocab (this one is always the best one). 09:46:45 <wargh> Admiral and cocab I use twice, but the second one set to only trains. 09:46:45 <Terkhen> you can access the AI debug window at the last button of the main toolbar 09:47:52 <wargh> Yeah, I have looked at that, but I don't get much help. In one game I saw one of the AI's seeming to be stuck, but that was only that specific game 09:49:15 <planetmaker> NoCAB does an excellent job 09:49:37 <wargh> Yeah I really like it, espceially that it uses ships also 09:49:39 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.116.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:49:49 <planetmaker> yep. And sensibly at that 09:50:16 <planetmaker> Trans doesn't. 09:50:29 <wargh> 32 trains, 493 road vehicles, 114 ships and 21 aircrafts for nocab atm 09:50:47 <planetmaker> hehe. They cannot buy more than 10 ships here and not more than 20 planes ;-) 09:51:42 <wargh> I have the standard settings =) 09:52:17 <wargh> I've tested many AI's and these are the ones I found to work good enought, althought I'm thinking of removing Admiral 09:53:33 <wargh> But right now I wish I could just figure out if it's one of the AI's that is making my game unplayable or if I just have a too slow computer. 09:54:34 *** mode/#openttd [+v SmatZ] by ChanServ 09:54:34 *** mode/#openttd [+v Terkhen] by ChanServ 09:54:34 *** mode/#openttd [+v Yexo] by ChanServ 09:54:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v orudge] by ChanServ 09:54:37 <wargh> I have no problem with Warcraft 3 and a modified AI though, which controls 11 AI's with quite a lot of operations going on. But maybe TTD AI execues a lot more operations. 09:55:59 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 09:56:18 <planetmaker> OpenTTD is not multi-threaded 09:56:25 <planetmaker> so your 2nd core won't help you there 09:57:20 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 10:00:10 <Terkhen> hmm... I forgot about the hover bus 10:03:42 <wargh> Ah, ok 10:03:53 <wargh> Maybe I should try with 5 AI and see if it works better 10:07:37 <wargh> Gonna leave it on a teastgame during the day while I'm away and see if it studders when I get home. 10:10:45 <wargh> Bah, two weeks of sunshine and +5 degress, now snowstorm for two days. :/ 10:11:24 *** ar3k [ident@bul143.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 10:11:26 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 10:16:50 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:20:02 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.12.83] has joined #openttd 10:28:34 *** zydeco [~zydeco@163.165.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 10:28:39 <zydeco> greetings 10:32:57 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host103-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:33:19 <Wolf01> hello 10:35:34 <__ln___> hi w01 10:40:06 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B744D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:40:19 <dihedral> oi 10:40:28 *** Scuddles [~notme@cm120.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 10:40:32 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77054.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:41:01 <Scuddles> Where is andythenorth? I must speak with him this very instant 10:42:51 *** JOHN-SHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-52-19.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:43:07 <andythenorth> umm 10:43:15 <andythenorth> don't ask to ask... 10:46:13 <dihedral> "this very instant"?? a) who do you think you are? b) where do you think you are? c) are you prepared to pay for "this very instant" support? 10:46:35 <peter1138> He's Scuddles. 10:46:43 <peter1138> That negates all the other questions. 10:47:05 <peter1138> (Negates the requirement, I mean) 10:47:09 <Terkhen> :D 10:47:29 *** __ln___ [~lauri@ssh.ksenos.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:47:30 *** __ln__ [~lauri@ssh.ksenos.fi] has joined #openttd 10:47:54 <andythenorth> he clearly wasn't that bothered about the question :P 10:48:02 <andythenorth> 6 minutes so far 10:48:09 <andythenorth> instant coffee is faster than that 10:48:18 <andythenorth> peter1138: did you fix the map gen yet? 10:49:05 *** SmatZ [~smatz@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:49:17 *** tneo- [~tneo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:49:29 *** V453000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:49:41 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:49:53 *** SmatZ [~smatz@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:49:53 *** tneo [~tneo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:50:13 <Scuddles> It's hardly my fault :( 10:50:23 *** V453000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:50:27 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:51:14 <Scuddles> Anyway, I enjoy your mayonnaise, ketchup, salt_and_vinegar but 10:51:58 <Scuddles> Surely the buffers on the platform tiles have some sort of clipping problems with the pj1k locos and such? 10:53:44 <andythenorth> yes that might happen 10:54:00 <andythenorth> it's only r35, give it time :P 11:01:00 <Scuddles> wokay 11:01:28 <andythenorth> I'm trying to fix it at the moment :D 11:01:41 <Scuddles> Are there plans for non-platform tiles of any sort? 11:02:09 <Scuddles> I mean, like those with a bit of track and buffers 11:03:15 <andythenorth> there are non-track tiles yes 11:03:52 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 11:07:18 <Scuddles> Hooray, hopefully it'll work out eventually 11:09:12 <andythenorth> I hope so :) 11:09:48 * andythenorth wishes 'newgame' wasn't in console history :P 11:09:59 <andythenorth> one 'up' too many and it's trouble :P 11:13:48 *** Westie [~westie@raptor.typefish.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:14:02 *** rane_ [~rane@smtp.gentoo.org] has joined #openttd 11:14:02 *** rane [~rane@smtp.gentoo.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:14:06 *** Westie [~westie@raptor.typefish.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:20:16 *** Chrill [~Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 11:26:02 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.11.181.45] has joined #openttd 11:29:36 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 11:30:48 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B107158.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:35:45 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3385.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:44:22 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 11:49:58 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:51:05 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius.ne2000.nl] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:51:06 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:55:51 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 11:57:47 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8CB4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:00:04 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.240.12.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:06:21 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has joined #openttd 12:07:41 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@225.205.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:08:03 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@225.205.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:09:29 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:10:11 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 12:11:01 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:13:41 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:13:42 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 12:39:47 *** welshdragon [~dragon@anubis.millsie.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 12:40:33 *** welshdragon [~dragon@anubis.millsie.net] has joined #openttd 12:48:30 *** Chris_Booth_ [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:49:57 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 12:56:37 *** andythenorth [~andy@115.242.109.243] has joined #openttd 13:00:21 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 13:20:37 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc0a93.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:33:39 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc0a93.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:49:27 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@82.95.127.26] has joined #openttd 13:50:27 <wargh> Peekaboo 13:56:16 *** Chrill [~Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 13:58:18 *** strumberry [~strumberr@189.182.162.207] has joined #openttd 14:08:26 *** Rediz [~arstilj1@leka.hut.fi] has joined #openttd 14:14:34 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:18:55 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 14:22:36 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.224.180.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 14:30:09 <Belugas> hello 14:32:15 <andythenorth> moo 14:40:02 <Sacro> has flyspray been abandoned? 14:40:09 <planetmaker> not at all 14:40:16 *** Krusen [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has joined #openttd 14:40:18 <planetmaker> or you mean the programme itself? 14:50:27 *** strumberry [~strumberr@189.182.162.207] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:52:53 *** ar3kaw [ident@bul143.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:53:28 *** ar3k [ident@bul143.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 14:53:31 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 14:54:58 *** rane_ is now known as rane 15:08:47 <lugo-> planetmaker, what do you say to this: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=39481&start=417 ? (just in case you missed it) :) 15:10:30 <planetmaker> I did not read that yet 15:12:06 <planetmaker> In any case I agree with norbert that such large-scale changes would be nice, if they are discussed in advance 15:16:21 *** ar3kaw [ident@bul143.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: âI-n-v-i-s-i-o-nâ 3.2 (July '10)] 15:16:30 <planetmaker> Hm... those two changes can be justified. But the change from Wegpunkt to Wegmarkierung is IMHO more grave and not nice 15:18:07 <lugo-> yep, like mb pointed out, it means something completly different.. 15:18:36 <planetmaker> I fully agree 15:35:39 <planetmaker> lugo-, maybe you have time to revert the Wegmarkierung now? 15:35:56 <planetmaker> I don't really have time till mid next week and I might forget ;-) 15:37:56 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:38:22 <planetmaker> though maybe it's better to first talk to him. 15:40:04 *** Aali [~aali@h-185-102.A189.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Server closed connection] 15:40:15 *** Aali [~aali@h-185-102.A189.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 15:42:28 *** neli [micha@112-231.ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl] has quit [Server closed connection] 15:42:32 *** neli [micha@112-231.ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl] has joined #openttd 15:42:46 *** TinoDidriksen [~TinoDidri@alpha.visl.sdu.dk] has quit [Server closed connection] 15:42:57 *** 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Just that the bundles list was not sorted a-z. 18:56:48 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3385.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:56:49 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:56:50 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:56:50 <Zuu> (http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/) 18:58:24 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 19:14:35 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 19:21:58 <frosch123> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=934782#p934782 <- lakie: what did you mean with that? currently ottd does not pass the selected view to the extra info callback. you said it would change? :o 19:22:35 <Lakie> Well, when I tested it moving the window worked 19:22:49 <Lakie> TTDpatch redraws the window on view selection change, 19:23:22 <Lakie> OpenTTD at the tme appeared to notice the change in text but not redraw until forced to 19:23:41 <Lakie> Of course, its possible the current view isn't correct? 19:24:29 <frosch123> http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/diffs/topic49783.diff <- ottd does redraw the window, but it does not pass the view to the callback for the purchase list. so the text cannot change 19:25:34 <Lakie> Ah, that'd be the bug then 19:25:58 <Lakie> I tested it on text changes over time, so I now the text can be changed, didn't try views directly though 19:26:14 <Lakie> Ok 19:26:29 <frosch123> ok, "changes over time" makes sense :) 19:27:11 <frosch123> you kind of confused us with reporting something works when moving the window which could not work at all :) 19:27:37 <Lakie> Ah sorry, 19:27:57 <Lakie> Didn't realize that you wouldn't pass current_view, seemed like an inportant bit of info 19:31:54 <Alberth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=934812#p934812 wallyweb discovered it to be not working too :) 19:32:38 <CIA-7> OpenTTD: frosch * r22231 /trunk/src/object_gui.cpp: -Feature(ette): [NewGRF] Make var 0x48 available in CB 0x15C. 19:32:44 <Lakie> Hehe 19:32:45 *** KouDy 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