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is there a GRF that has a "shunting yard" railtype? i.e. one that has a concrete track base blending in with ISR stations, for junctions etc.? 00:24:08 <Yexo> doesn't ISR have that kind of tiles? 00:24:26 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 00:24:52 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: it has fake switches and stuff. but i meant non-station rail. real switches, signals... 00:26:00 <Eddi|zuHause> something that blends in with the station, but isn't a station 00:32:10 <confound> Eddi|zuHause: so it's possible to accidentally have a station that can deliver but not pick up cargo? 00:32:23 <Eddi|zuHause> confound: yes. 00:36:41 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:38:53 <supermop> i could try to make such a thing 00:42:54 *** DDR_ [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 00:42:59 <Wolf01> 'night 00:43:03 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host169-234-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the 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#openttd 09:35:12 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host169-234-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:35:57 <Wolf01> good morning 09:35:59 *** snorre [~snorre@c6529BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:37:05 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B1027EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:45:49 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c6529BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:51:04 *** devilsadvocate_ [~quassel@109.200.19.188] has joined #openttd 09:51:21 *** snorre [~snorre@c6529BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 09:51:22 *** Vadtec [vadtec@i.am.vadtec.net] has quit [Quit: Vadtec was here....] 09:52:31 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:53:21 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 09:53:24 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 09:53:41 *** devilsadvocate [~quassel@109.200.19.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:20:56 <pikka> good morning wolf 10:24:06 *** 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and not exactly new in the 90s 12:16:27 <andythenorth> indeed 12:16:37 <andythenorth> 'slaves' seems to be missing from my early games :P 12:16:41 <pikka> iphones in the 90s? 12:16:44 <andythenorth> or 'convicts' 12:17:01 <andythenorth> pikka: could be 2000s 12:17:11 <andythenorth> I just want something new to do at that point 12:18:01 <V453000> electronics? 12:18:05 <V453000> well that is goods 12:18:18 <andythenorth> yeah 12:18:30 <V453000> idk, uranium? 12:18:36 <andythenorth> biofuels are just petrol 12:18:44 <andythenorth> uranium is possible 12:18:52 <andythenorth> but the quantities are tiny 12:18:58 <V453000> ? 12:19:09 <V453000> you mean it is only primary -> power plant 12:19:21 <andythenorth> and in small amounts yes 12:19:31 <pikka> and the whole waste chain 12:19:49 <pikka> hmm 12:20:05 <V453000> why not in large amounts? do not tell me "realism" please :D 12:20:07 <pikka> drunk foreign girls asking when I get off work 12:20:16 <confound> there are enough of those to fill a train? 12:20:21 <confound> sounds terrifying 12:20:23 <andythenorth> pikka: is that a cargo in large or small quantities? 12:20:55 <confound> pikka: I have what might be a stupid question about ukrs2. 12:21:16 <andythenorth> I could add 'recyclables' 12:21:24 <andythenorth> which come from town to a processing plant 12:21:32 <V453000> andythenorth: cant you make any cargo a large quantity cargo just by prospecting a ton of mines? 12:21:38 <andythenorth> V453000: yes 12:21:48 <V453000> recyclables are interesting :) 12:21:59 <confound> pikka: it seems like once the 1960s hit, there's no reason not to use the AL1 and then AL6 for pretty much everything, even big coal/iron trains, because they're cheap and have huge HP. am I doing it wrong? 12:22:00 <andythenorth> it's a bit like reintroducing waste? 12:22:17 <V453000> idk, will houses produce recycling or some waste yards? 12:22:25 <andythenorth> waste yard I think 12:22:39 <andythenorth> that's what happened previously with waste chain 12:22:44 <andythenorth> it was mucho boring though 12:22:51 <V453000> well, not really 12:23:10 <V453000> although I would make such yards directly inside cities just like the pumps/shops 12:23:22 <andythenorth> previously there was a 'waste collection point' in towns 12:23:28 <andythenorth> with quite low production 12:23:31 <andythenorth> and quite a lot of them 12:23:32 <V453000> and as banks, 1 yard per ... 1000 population? 12:23:54 <andythenorth> it could be that stores / petrol stations produce recyclables after a certain date 12:23:57 <andythenorth> also junk yards 12:24:03 <V453000> hmm 12:24:39 <V453000> I think we could "say" that stores/petrol stations throw it to the dustbins and from there it is taken to junk yards "itself" :) 12:24:56 <andythenorth> could be 12:25:05 <V453000> store sells, does not really produce anythinng actually 12:25:10 <andythenorth> currently the recycling plant exists, but is not in 0.6.x 12:25:15 <V453000> :) 12:25:23 <andythenorth> it is just a primary producing scrap metal / manufacturing supplies 12:25:31 <andythenorth> but maybe it should accept recyclables 12:25:41 <V453000> yes, that would fit nicely :) 12:25:50 <V453000> although there would be one bad thing 12:25:52 <andythenorth> would junk yard produce recyclables? 12:26:03 <V453000> you would get manufacturing supplies from goods/food basically 12:26:22 <V453000> but well, that is far better than if you got them from anything else 12:26:40 <andythenorth> the store could produce independent of what's delivered 12:26:43 <V453000> yes, junk yard (recyclables) -> recycling plant 12:27:16 <Chris_Booth> junk would be nice 12:27:29 <Chris_Booth> and waste would be nice from industries 12:27:35 <V453000> nah, stores should just accept imo... I think making a new industry - junk yard - dependant on city population instead of any relation to the goods/food drop 12:28:19 <Chris_Booth> you could make to store dependent on city size 12:28:22 <Chris_Booth> like banks 12:28:31 <Chris_Booth> 1000 pop = 1 store 12:28:37 <Chris_Booth> 10000 = large store 12:28:42 <Chris_Booth> ect 12:29:12 <V453000> store? you mean junk yard? :) 12:29:20 <Chris_Booth> and things like power plant and steel mills could create junk aswell 12:29:26 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 12:29:35 <V453000> that would be kind of over-combinating imo 12:29:46 <andythenorth> been there, done that :P 12:30:14 <Chris_Booth> junk yard should replace scrap metal place 12:30:17 <andythenorth> something else that was suggested - make current junk yard production depend on town population, not supplies 12:30:24 <andythenorth> there are problems with that though 12:30:45 <Chris_Booth> and be in towns 12:31:03 <V453000> just make a junk yard per 1000 pop 12:31:45 <Chris_Booth> thats agreed then 12:32:01 <Chris_Booth> a day for the history books 12:32:07 <Chris_Booth> the day me and V453000 agree 12:32:40 <Chris_Booth> another thing is the products junk yards would make 12:32:58 <Chris_Booth> like scrap metal and broken glass and used plastics 12:33:02 <Chris_Booth> or just one 12:33:25 <andythenorth> I think: 12:33:36 <andythenorth> current junk yard - unchanged -> scrap metal 12:34:03 <andythenorth> new industry: recycling point -> recyclables -> recycling plant -> manufacturing supplies 12:34:19 <andythenorth> and maybe scrap metal 12:34:45 <andythenorth> hmm 12:34:50 <andythenorth> how about a different cargo 12:34:55 <andythenorth> 'internet shopping' :P 12:35:01 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:35:41 <Chris_Booth> andythenorth you need to change the glass chain, to include recycled glass 12:35:50 <Chris_Booth> the is just imo 12:36:16 <Chris_Booth> but what am I saying I love FIRS as it is 12:36:48 <andythenorth> I am only looking for small changes at this stage 12:37:01 <andythenorth> I need something new from around 1990s... 12:37:11 <Chris_Booth> Fish farms need to be fixed IMO 12:37:18 <andythenorth> in what respects? 12:37:20 <Chris_Booth> since they just die out 12:37:25 <V453000> hm, 3 new cargoes? :D paper/glass/plastics for recycling ... hmm :) 12:37:27 <Chris_Booth> they don't need supplies 12:37:43 <Chris_Booth> but they just die 12:37:47 <V453000> they work 12:37:51 <V453000> just service them 12:38:03 <V453000> they will not grow over 45t/month though 12:38:04 <andythenorth> Chris_Booth: does that sound like this bug? http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2355 12:38:09 <Chris_Booth> you serviced them last game V453000, and they died 12:38:18 <V453000> did they? :| hmm 12:38:25 <andythenorth> there may well be a bug with them 12:38:33 <andythenorth> you two might be further confirming it ;) 12:38:49 <Chris_Booth> yes 12:38:52 <V453000> then that probably is the case 12:39:17 <Chris_Booth> I tryed them in an SP game and they died 12:39:36 <andythenorth> bug 12:39:47 <Chris_Booth> not sure if they need passenger to survive but if they need passengers the window should say 12:39:56 <Chris_Booth> or they should take farm supplies 12:40:17 <andythenorth> they shouldn't need anything to survive 12:40:21 <V453000> fishing grounds? you do not feed the fish :p 12:40:26 <andythenorth> it's just missing code :P 12:41:06 <Chris_Booth> I don't care about max production, but they should behave like the scrap metal shain 12:42:06 <Chris_Booth> isn't it also nice that finally we have an industry set the is playable 12:42:13 <Chris_Booth> apart from standard set 12:42:50 * confound agrees 12:44:21 <V453000> we still miss the supplying mechanism, andythenorth :P 12:44:45 <andythenorth> I have two preferred routes at the moment 12:44:50 <andythenorth> (1) no change - easiest 12:44:55 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 12:45:03 <andythenorth> (2) higher production levels => more supplies needed for further boost 12:45:23 <V453000> I kind of agree with 2 :p 12:45:26 <andythenorth> my only objection to (2) is that it makes the readme / industry window strings very complicated 12:45:28 <Chris_Booth> yes, that could be good 12:45:54 <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2296 this is what I am talking about 12:46:00 <Chris_Booth> 1 and 2 would be good if parameters where used to swap between them 12:46:17 <andythenorth> Chris_Booth: there are already too many parameters affecting the supply code 12:46:20 <andythenorth> it's hard to debug 12:46:28 <andythenorth> and may indeed already have bugs in 0.6.2 12:46:36 <Chris_Booth> but just have supply 1 supply per month 12:46:47 <Chris_Booth> shouldn't allow max production 12:46:53 <Chris_Booth> which it does at the moment 12:47:16 <V453000> Chris_Booth: see the issue I linked to :P I think that would cover it pretty well 12:48:22 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 12:50:58 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 12:51:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i think some kind of high-tech chain (sand->wafers->chips->goods)? 12:52:16 <Eddi|zuHause> what do you think, andythenorth? 12:54:51 <confound> that's an interesting idea. I was stuck on thinking of "electronics" separating from "goods" or something 12:55:49 <V453000> I think that it just adds a cargo like "one of many" but the recyclables add a differently working one, which is far more interesting 12:59:49 <planetmaker> hm, sounds like an interesting industry chain for late 20th, early 21st century indeed :-) 13:10:48 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@152.80-203-77.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303024726]] 13:11:33 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@152.80-203-77.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 13:18:58 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d5ab:c60e:8dab:e0c0] has joined #openttd 13:19:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:24:01 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe28dc00-181.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 13:36:43 *** Pikka_ [~chatzilla@d110-32-3-140.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:37:03 *** pikka [~yaaic@120.16.239.66] has quit [Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org] 13:37:09 <Pikka_> how rare 13:37:11 *** Pikka_ is now known as Pikka 13:50:50 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:55:21 <Belugas> hello 14:04:37 <Pikka> hello Belugas 14:05:30 *** Chris_Booth_ [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:09:26 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest1064 14:09:26 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 14:10:00 *** Guest1064 [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:12:48 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.224.180.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 14:13:08 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303024726]] 14:17:53 <Belugas> Mister Pikka :) 14:17:58 <Belugas> hello there 14:18:02 <Belugas> been a while! 14:18:12 <Belugas> sorry for the lag, i 14:18:14 <Belugas> m 14:18:18 <Belugas> a bit busy :S 14:22:23 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cdb45.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:27:06 <Pikka> that's fine 14:27:12 <Pikka> I've been busy myself 14:37:52 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@46.115.3.247] has joined #openttd 14:37:57 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d110-32-3-140.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303024726]] 14:37:57 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@46.115.3.247] has quit [] 15:00:13 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.224.180.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:01:28 *** supermop__ [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:03:37 *** supermop__ is now known as supermop 15:03:52 <supermop> good morning 15:13:57 <planetmaker> g'day 15:14:38 <V453000> hi :p 15:14:41 <supermop> how are you planetmaker? 15:14:50 <supermop> made any new planets lately? 15:15:03 <V453000> hm, why do I get the feeling like at least 10% of the chat here are greetings? :D 15:16:43 <confound> hi V453000 15:17:12 <V453000> hy 15:18:49 <planetmaker> I'm trying hard, supermop ;-) 15:19:13 <Ammler> Hello V453000 :-) 15:19:30 <Ammler> and hello poor rest 15:19:34 <V453000> hello, Apfelsaft Drinker :P 15:19:48 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4d0cfb7e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:22:19 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-175-110.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 15:27:41 <SmatZ> hello V453000 15:27:51 <SmatZ> afternoon Ammler 15:27:55 <V453000> hi ProperBeverage Drinker :P 15:28:04 <SmatZ> :-) 15:28:05 <planetmaker> heya the whole crowd, I'd say :-) 15:28:10 <SmatZ> hello planetmaker :) 15:28:20 <V453000> planermaker: we are no crowd! :P 15:28:28 <supermop> I feel like i haven't done anything on my grf in a long time 15:30:18 <Ammler> bad boy 15:32:02 <planetmaker> very very bad. ALL other people have written 5 newgrfs within that time :-P 15:32:13 <supermop> yep 15:32:24 <SmatZ> indeed 15:32:27 <andythenorth> at least 99 grfs 15:32:27 <planetmaker> I want my money back. Oh well... 15:32:31 <SmatZ> :) 15:32:49 <supermop> i did play a bit of a patchpack game on the airplane monday and yesterday though 15:35:15 <supermop> so i will count that as 'playtesting' my grfs 15:42:41 *** Krusen [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has joined #openttd 15:46:30 <planetmaker> there are people who play the game? 15:48:51 <V453000> hm :) 15:52:37 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 15:54:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B232.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:54:54 <Terkhen> :D 15:55:23 <Terkhen> hmmm... lately I have spent more time playing than coding 15:55:45 <planetmaker> good :-) 15:55:50 <andythenorth> me too 15:55:54 <andythenorth> bizarre 15:55:58 <Terkhen> ^ 15:56:33 <planetmaker> maybe "it's done" ;-) 15:59:09 <andythenorth> is it bollocks :P 15:59:28 <andythenorth> I could find at least 99 things to do :) 15:59:34 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:00:38 <andythenorth> wrt gameplay, the biggest thing I miss is more interesting town growth 16:00:43 <Terkhen> I have a few projects to finish too, but I'm stuck in the "ugly" parts :P 16:01:20 <andythenorth> I am stuck in bug-fix-no-motivation land with FIRS 16:01:31 <andythenorth> and my attempt at roadtypes is thoroughly stuck 16:02:51 <Terkhen> I should finish my scenario queue, but I have the feeling that I'm missing the big picture with my current implementation 16:03:23 <andythenorth> what is a scenario queue? 16:03:58 <Terkhen> I meant a patch queue, the plan is to strip a scenario of everything NewGRF related and allow to restart it with a different choice of NewGRFs 16:05:42 <Terkhen> I still think that it should allow to save the stripped scenario somehow, so it can be distributed without all users needing to strip it first 16:06:51 <supermop> thats a good idea 16:07:17 <supermop> what's got you stuck with roadtypes, andy? 16:27:51 <andythenorth> simply that I'm way out of my depth 16:28:15 <andythenorth> I understand neither the game architecture, nor the programming language 16:28:50 <andythenorth> either of those on its own would be less troubling 16:32:51 <peter1138> Did I ever publish my old code? 16:32:55 *** JOHN-SHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-35-14.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:35:47 <Terkhen> I don't remember seeing any roadtypes code besides the old repo at hg.openttd.org 16:36:14 <andythenorth> peter1138: I don't remember seeing it 16:37:12 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ffef0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:37:52 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/developers/peter1138/roadtypes.hg/ 16:38:34 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cdb45.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:38:39 <peter1138> Nope 16:38:53 <planetmaker> hm, not? 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19:06:55 <frosch123> the bool as a default argument 19:06:58 <frosch123> +h 19:07:44 <SmatZ> void CreateNestedTree(const WindowDesc *desc, bool fill_nested = true); 19:08:04 <SmatZ> also, that's the reason why I don't like default arguments, or overloading 19:08:16 <SmatZ> searching for the definition is complicated 19:08:18 <flitz> hm, I was thinking of that but when making a small test example of that case it gave me a compiler error 19:08:37 <flitz> I just looked through the files with cat and grep and found the window.cpp for the definition 19:08:53 <frosch123> important is the .h :) 19:09:48 <frosch123> SmatZ: what are you doing instead? one-line wrapper functions with slightly different names? 19:09:49 <flitz> there is no window.h ;) 19:09:59 <SmatZ> frosch123: yup : 19:10:00 <SmatZ> ) 19:10:05 <frosch123> that would make it imo a lot more harder to find usages of a function 19:10:20 <SmatZ> well 19:10:22 <flitz> SmatZ: worked with g++, for some reason I was using gcc before and that gave me the error, thanks 19:10:26 <Eddi|zuHause> flitz: it doesn't matter what it's called 19:10:26 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:10:51 <frosch123> flitz: window_gui.h 19:11:06 <SmatZ> if the name of original function is "function()", and name of derivates is "function_Tile()", "function_Bool()", it's enough to grep for "function" 19:11:19 <SmatZ> but yes, your argument is valid 19:11:21 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:11:33 <alluke> andy 19:11:35 <SmatZ> FauxFaux: 19:11:37 <SmatZ> oops 19:11:54 <SmatZ> flitz: gcc should determine the type by file extension 19:12:00 <alluke> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=53362 19:12:41 <frosch123> alluke: unless andy is back in europe, he is probably quite asleep 19:12:43 <SmatZ> flitz: and you should use some commonly used file extension for C++ files 19:13:41 <flitz> .h and .cpp 19:13:58 <SmatZ> flitz: for C++, it's .cc, .cp, .cxx, .cpp, .CPP, .c++, .C 19:14:16 <SmatZ> flitz: don't run "gcc file.h", unless you want to create PCH 19:14:27 <SmatZ> just compile the .C file 19:14:32 <flitz> I never ran gcc on the header file 19:14:43 <SmatZ> ok, then I don't know why it failed for you :) 19:14:52 <alluke> uk â europe 19:15:20 <SmatZ> uk â europe 19:15:32 <Eddi|zuHause> depends on who you ask. 19:15:41 <flitz> what failed was just an arbitrary example :) 19:15:42 <Eddi|zuHause> but india probably is not part of europe :p 19:15:59 <flitz> I was just unclear about the definition being used for CreateNestedTree because I didn't see the default value 19:16:24 <Eddi|zuHause> alluke: anyway, what do you actually want to tell us? 19:18:26 <alluke> nothing 19:18:33 <alluke> jsut wanted to show andy the link 19:18:38 <Alberth> SmatZ: searching for the definition is complicated <-- doxygen docs fixes that problem :) 19:19:22 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.224.180.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 19:20:30 <SmatZ> Alberth: ok :) well, it's most likely my fault, I should learn new things :) 19:20:46 <SmatZ> I am not far that old not to :P 19:22:13 <SmatZ> or use some IDE / better editor :) 19:23:30 <DJNekkid> action7/9, contitiontype 0D/0E (availability of railtype)... Is that a pos. in the RTT or the 'real' thing? (i.e. "xxxx" or "00") 19:24:17 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.224.180.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:26 <frosch123> DJNekkid: a label 19:24:45 <DJNekkid> oki :) 19:25:07 <DJNekkid> thanx mate :D 19:25:09 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.224.180.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 19:42:47 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 19:46:21 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 19:47:02 *** alluke [~52b528fd@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:35 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:54:21 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:55:15 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:57:38 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:57:50 <supermop> hello 19:58:58 <Alberth> hello 19:59:38 <__ln__> hello 20:00:30 <Chrill> bai 20:00:34 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 20:00:42 <supermop> how is everyone? 20:01:03 <Wolf01> different 20:01:10 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:32 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 20:01:49 *** Macha [~Macha@109.78.61.149] has joined #openttd 20:01:58 *** Macha [~Macha@109.78.61.149] has left #openttd [] 20:03:07 <Terkhen> the same 20:04:15 <__ln__> as anyone 20:04:42 <Eddi|zuHause> "you are unique, just like everyone else" 20:19:14 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 20:30:14 *** krinn [~krinn@98.227.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 20:30:21 <krinn> hi all 20:30:49 <krinn> no questions today :) 20:31:35 <MapperOG> alright! 20:32:55 *** andythenorth [~andy@91.125.142.2] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:34:57 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 20:45:22 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 20:46:27 *** Krusen [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:47:03 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 20:47:59 <CIA-10> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22256 /trunk/os/rpm/ (openttd-rpmlintrc openttd.changes openttd.spec): -Update [FS#3375]: RPM spec file (Ammler) 20:48:49 <Ammler> danke schön :-) 20:49:16 *** flitz [~me@dslb-188-097-228-200.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: flitz] 20:49:28 <Rubidium> what? Throwing shoes to me? 20:50:11 <Rubidium> hmm, or am I a shoe? 20:50:29 <Ammler> oh, still "English only" 20:50:31 <SmatZ> :P 20:50:35 <Ammler> stupid channel 20:50:47 <SmatZ> Ammler: #openttdcoop has English only too 20:50:53 <Ammler> shht 20:50:58 <SmatZ> :) 20:51:14 <Rubidium> Ammler: ö -> oe for those that fail to find the umlaut 20:51:20 <Rubidium> right? 20:51:34 <Ammler> Rubidium: indeed :-D 20:51:35 <Rubidium> makes it "schoen", which is "shoe" in Dutch 20:51:46 <SmatZ> oh 20:51:54 <Rubidium> in any case... had to shoehorn the patch in :( 20:52:09 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d086fc3.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 21:06:00 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 21:09:06 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [Quit: Visit my community site at http://sla-co.webs.com/] 21:15:42 <CIA-10> OpenTTD: rubidium * r22257 /branches/1.1/ (54 files in 4 dirs): [1.1] -Backport from trunk: language updates 21:17:15 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:17:52 <DanMacK> Hey all 21:19:08 <supermop> hi dan 21:26:29 <supermop> is andy around? 21:26:37 <supermop> had an idea for heqs trams 21:26:54 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:29:31 <planetmaker> supermop: create a ticket at the bug tracker :-) 21:29:45 <supermop> tiny mail refits 21:29:58 <supermop> like the chicago tunnel company railroad 21:32:36 <supermop> or basically the ability to refit the trams to very short trains, for almost any cargo 21:34:26 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:35:30 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 21:39:34 <supermop> also one of these would be fun: 21:39:35 <supermop> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrjorgen/2373845/ 21:39:51 <supermop> not reall 'heavy' in any sense of the word 21:39:54 <supermop> really 21:40:11 <DanMacK> That'd be for the LEQS :P 21:40:23 <DanMacK> Capacity - 1 crate of goods 21:50:50 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 21:51:29 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: so you can transport exactly 1 supply per month? :p 21:52:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i have an idea: why not apply the same loading time calculation to road vehicles like for trains, when the station is not long enough? 22:14:32 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:27:57 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-123-205.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 22:28:38 *** goblin [~goblin@dslb-088-067-068-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:29:08 <supermop> i think that needs a lot more station work 22:29:19 <supermop> like new ports 22:30:53 <Eddi|zuHause> how is that related? 22:31:47 <supermop> i was under the impression that it will allow ports, airports and road stations to be more flexible 22:32:06 <supermop> so you could essentially have a platform length for road stops 22:32:24 <Eddi|zuHause> that may be, but you can still find out the length of the platform by counting the adjacent road stops in the current system. 22:32:47 <supermop> hmm 22:33:24 <supermop> also i am not sure if RVs count as actually being long for things other than blocking the next RV behind them 22:34:36 <Eddi|zuHause> they have a length for moving etc. it's the same as an articulated rail vehicle. i don't see a problem there 22:35:25 *** JOHN-SHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-35-14.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:35:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B232.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:09 <supermop> if a long rv stops at the first stop, blocking 3 other stops behind it, is it aware that it is also occupying those stops? 22:36:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure it does 22:37:01 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@152.80-203-77.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303024726]] 22:37:53 <supermop> so is some extra thing in the newgrf spec all that is needed? 22:38:23 <Eddi|zuHause> no. has nothing to do with the newgrf spec 22:39:12 *** JOHN-SHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-74-223.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 22:39:21 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:40:02 <Yexo> <supermop> if a long rv stops at the first stop, blocking 3 other stops behind it, is it aware that it is also occupying those stops? <- not sure about that, but that's irrelevant 22:41:16 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: although the idea is not original, I like it 22:42:25 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ffef0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:42:44 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 22:57:58 *** lugo- [lugo@89.238.177.145] has joined #openttd 23:05:43 <supermop> brb 23:06:31 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 23:10:57 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 23:11:39 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 23:13:01 <Terkhen> good night 23:17:12 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.224.180.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:12 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-145-130.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21:44 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:30:19 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-89-169-72.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 23:39:03 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-63-59.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 23:45:21 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-58-181.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:49:56 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-86-49-8-241.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:52:36 <krinn> good night 23:52:42 *** krinn [~krinn@98.227.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 23:55:04 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit []