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00:28:07 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 00:33:47 * JVassie grabs Yexo 00:33:48 <JVassie> :p 00:34:19 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:52:33 *** KenjiE20 [~kenji@host-92-8-65-148.as43234.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4] 01:02:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-164-150.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:18:54 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:36:12 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.152.167.220] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 01:38:35 *** roboboy [996b219b@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 01:38:47 *** roboboy [996b219b@ircip2.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 01:55:09 *** gar [44ed27f0@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 01:56:08 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:04:46 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:6080:70e:1195:7764] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:44:54 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:05:52 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 04:11:18 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:32:20 *** Amis [~Amis@catv-89-135-77-239.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7687C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:56:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76427.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:59:46 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 05:17:31 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw3-ffa8c300-33.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 05:21:08 *** Zmapper [~Zmapper@c-75-70-84-239.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 05:22:07 <Zmapper> Hello. 05:22:31 <Zmapper> Was there a openttd compile made that combines CargoDist and Infrashare? 05:22:57 <Zmapper> Someone said it was called Mega OpenTTD but google isn't providing me a suitible answer. 05:25:27 <Zmapper> Is anyone here or is my connection to the chat broken? 05:26:12 <planetmaker> moin 05:26:49 <planetmaker> Zmapper: you might try chills patch pack 05:26:51 <Zmapper> oh hi planetmaker 05:26:54 <Zmapper> ok 05:27:25 <Zmapper> I was thinking about having a infrashare+cargodist server. I think plenty of people would play it. 05:47:30 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 05:48:28 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has left #openttd [] 05:52:47 <planetmaker> Zmapper: people need the exact same version as the server 05:53:10 <planetmaker> Thus servers with PP are usually... not that well frequented 05:53:30 <planetmaker> though I'm sure you'll find players with Chill's PP 05:55:28 <planetmaker> With patched servers you have to make very clear which version you use, or it will be no fun for players 05:58:36 *** Zmapper [~Zmapper@c-75-70-84-239.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 06:08:01 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 06:12:58 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0497ba.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:39:40 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 06:39:40 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has left #openttd [] 06:45:09 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:49:34 *** ashledombos [~ashledomb@ris91-2-82-227-26-30.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:16:17 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 07:16:28 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 07:16:57 *** JVassie [~James@host-92-27-149-231.static.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 07:29:57 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC471B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:41:20 <Terkhen> good morning 07:47:57 *** DDR [~DDR@d99-199-10-67.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 07:49:08 *** DDR [~DDR@d99-199-10-67.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 07:55:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C050.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:00:42 *** bryjen [~bryjen@76.92.85.169] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:01:08 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:19:54 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc16-lewi15-2-0-cust395.2-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:21:54 *** ashledombos [~ashledomb@marvin-18-230.cnt.nerim.net] has joined #openttd 08:23:03 <ashledombos> hi, is there any admin of openttd wiki ? 08:33:35 <Yexo> all developers I think, why? 08:34:53 <Yexo> ashledombos: if you translate a page, you only have to add a link to the translation to the english page 08:35:15 <Yexo> I have a bot that'll take care of putting links on the other translations 08:35:43 <ashledombos> Yexo: oh ok sorry 08:36:06 <Yexo> it's fine if you do it yourself, it's just a lot of extra unnecessary work :p 08:36:33 <ashledombos> Yexo: in fact i have a problem : i always have "you have a new message" every where, 08:36:41 <ashledombos> and i have already read my messages 08:36:49 <ashledombos> i even tried to remove all my messages 08:36:54 <ashledombos> but it's still there :( 08:39:04 <Yexo> no idea what can cause that, or how to solve it 08:39:48 <Yexo> I've deleted your user talk page, did that help? 08:40:33 <ashledombos> Yexo: no, i still have it o_à 08:40:47 <ashledombos> very strange bug :D 08:43:30 <ashledombos> Yexo: http://img694.yfrog.com/img694/7001/cran9.png :p 09:17:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:26:07 *** romazoon [romazoon@158-138.76-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 09:50:35 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 09:53:31 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-81-33.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:15:40 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:24:19 <planetmaker> good argument about the fruit in bulk, Terkhen :-) 10:24:22 <planetmaker> I didn't think of that 10:24:48 <Thorn_> someone counted all their eggs too soon? 10:24:51 <Thorn_> er 10:24:59 <Thorn_> oh wow, i really just tried to pass an egg as a fruit 10:25:01 <Terkhen> it would be fun if he freaks out after finding that rubber is carried in bulk too :P 10:25:03 <Thorn_> ->back to bed 10:25:21 <planetmaker> :-) 10:28:18 <planetmaker> Terkhen, I'm not sure about raw rubber. It's rather a bulky (or liquid) thing... "it can be traded in liquid form or as bale or as powder" 10:29:01 <Terkhen> I didn't think about powder... in OpenTTD it has always looked liquid to me 10:31:11 <Terkhen> hmm... it is bulk only in OpenGFX; with original graphics it is carried in small barrels 10:31:21 <Terkhen> which makes more sense IMO 10:31:21 <planetmaker> oh :-) 10:31:33 <Terkhen> so maybe we should move rubber to the flatbed 10:31:34 <planetmaker> but in the bulk wagon, or how? 10:31:43 <Terkhen> I was checking road vehicles, let me check trains 10:31:52 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host223-159-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:31:59 <Wolf01> hello 10:33:45 <planetmaker> I think, too. 10:34:03 <Terkhen> planetmaker: http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/screenshots/original_rubber.png 10:34:09 <planetmaker> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/newgrf.php?1=2817:2821 10:34:28 <planetmaker> then I looked at the wrong sprite ;-) 10:34:53 <planetmaker> we could use bales 10:35:09 <Terkhen> for flatbed or for bulk? 10:35:26 <planetmaker> for OpenGFX it doesn't matter. For OpenGFX I'd move it to flatbed 10:35:40 <planetmaker> hm... :-) Last sentence: OpenGFX+ 10:36:28 <Terkhen> I think so too, yes 10:37:05 <planetmaker> and we could offer two representations... bales and barrels :-) 10:37:59 * Terkhen has no sprites for either representation 10:38:10 * planetmaker currently neither 10:38:28 <planetmaker> But I'm sure that can *somewhere* or *somehow* be come up with 10:38:37 <Terkhen> I should also try to adapt the oil barrels from OpenGFX+ Trains one of these days, but I had enough sprite magic for a while :P 10:38:40 <planetmaker> and if it's two hours of gimp-ing 10:38:53 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 10:39:35 <planetmaker> gimp 2.8 is supposed to have (alternatively IIRC) a much more standard interface with one window only 10:45:01 <Terkhen> hmm... the current layout works once you get used to it, but maybe a single window interface would be more efficient 10:45:31 <planetmaker> yes indeed 10:45:41 <planetmaker> I guess my biggest "problem" is my 13" screen ;-) 10:46:06 <Ammler> you mean tools and image in same window? 10:46:15 <Ammler> then you never worked with 2 screens 10:47:24 <planetmaker> Ammler, I do. But not when I use gimp for drawing sprites ;-) 10:47:42 <planetmaker> IIRC they'll keep it optional. So... 10:48:13 <Ammler> kinda like docking? 10:48:21 <Ammler> that would be nice 10:48:25 <planetmaker> dunno. Just briefly read it somewhere on their site 10:51:18 <planetmaker> http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Single-window_mode_specification 11:08:52 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 11:10:09 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 11:11:45 *** KenjiE20 [~kenji@host-92-8-65-148.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 11:11:51 *** zachanim1 [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 11:11:54 <Terkhen> hmm... no screenshots? 11:13:01 <planetmaker> seems not. I've been looking for them, too 11:13:14 <planetmaker> but now ended up reading up on layer masks :-P 11:13:40 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:18:07 <Eddi|zuHause> sounds dirty 11:18:39 <Terkhen> what are they for? 11:21:30 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc16-lewi15-2-0-cust395.2-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Juo] 11:23:07 <planetmaker> they allow to define which parts of a layer become visible in a range from 0 (completely invisible) to 255 (competely visible) with values between defining the degree of transparency 11:25:00 <Terkhen> is that useful for paletted images? 11:25:22 <planetmaker> at least in the yes / no way it can be useful, I think 11:25:39 <planetmaker> But I haven't yet used it as I didn't quite master their use / their interface :-) 11:26:12 <planetmaker> how well that works with indexed images and incomplete transparency... will have to be seen :-) 11:26:49 <Eddi|zuHause> it should be useful to put things like cargo graphics onto wagons 11:27:01 <planetmaker> you don't need transparency masks for that 11:27:09 <planetmaker> normal layers suffice 11:27:36 <planetmaker> and yes, that's how we started to use it 11:28:00 <Eddi|zuHause> even if you want the cargo graphics to fit multiple wagons with different shape? 11:28:01 <planetmaker> Terkhen, was the first one to provide layers with cargos for opengfx+rvs 11:29:11 <planetmaker> that'd require to be able to attach selectively several layer masks to a layer. I think that's not possible 11:29:23 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:29:41 <planetmaker> though maybe by drawing the vehicle over the cargo... maybe :-) 11:29:58 <Terkhen> I don't have that problem, I don't have the same cargo graphics used for trucks with different shape 11:30:18 <Terkhen> hmmm... that's an interesting idea 11:30:30 <planetmaker> I think that's rather difficult and not necessarily easier to do 11:30:37 <planetmaker> might work for bulk 11:30:46 <Terkhen> only for bulk probably, yes 11:30:55 <planetmaker> hm... or for partial loading stages of them 11:39:38 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:47:20 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 11:55:18 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:56:06 <Eddi|zuHause> 'German Police Union warns: "If Miss Merkel thinks she can just restart the shut down nuclear power stations and then call 110 when there is protest, she'll have the wrong number"' 11:58:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 12:00:36 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:404f:f7c6:f923:5841] has joined #openttd 12:00:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:06:30 <__ln__> source? 12:11:40 <Eddi|zuHause> it says "Handelsblatt" but no link 12:23:58 <__ln__> good news everyone, the end of the world has been postponed for 5 months 12:24:06 <__ln__> *by 12:30:00 <Terkhen> I'll believe it when they start giving everything they own and await the end of the world owning nothing 12:30:07 <Terkhen> I could use some free stuff 12:30:17 <Yexo> Terkhen: some people already did that last week 12:30:27 <Terkhen> oh :( 12:30:43 <Terkhen> I hope they sue this guy then 12:33:36 <Eddi|zuHause> "people who tell you they speak with god are fine, but beware of people who say he answered" 12:35:06 *** romazoon [romazoon@158-138.76-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [] 13:07:56 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 13:16:53 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:20:43 <Belugas> hello 13:22:38 <Nite> Hi 13:22:45 <planetmaker> hi nite 13:25:14 <Nite> Hi 13:25:39 <Nite> not too much ottd 4 me because of the nice hott weather :-D 13:27:05 <Eddi|zuHause> nite weather... great. 13:27:21 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 13:28:38 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-161-134.joensuunelli.fi] has joined #openttd 13:39:34 *** TWerkhoven [~turbulent@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:39:37 <Nite> great hot weather shoudl be definately a feature of ottd 2.0 , and make it so taht it actually emmits heat and rays you can get a tan from ... while playing ... ;-P 13:40:48 <Nite> (usb solarium light) 13:40:58 <Noldo> *facepalm* 13:41:03 <Eddi|zuHause> your monitor can probably do that... 13:41:25 <Nite> http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/usbtanner.shtml 13:41:52 <Eddi|zuHause> get an usb laptop charger :p 13:42:11 <Terkhen> you could always break your microwave's door and stand in front of it 13:44:08 <__ln__> *a usb 13:45:03 <Nite> *the usb ... 13:49:17 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-28-234.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 13:50:41 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-161-134.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [Quit: asilv] 13:52:55 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-94-112-27-160.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 13:52:58 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: the rule is to put an "n" when _I_ speak the "u" as "u" [instead of "ju"] 13:55:03 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-32-159.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:56:40 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-161-134.joensuunelli.fi] has joined #openttd 13:57:34 <__ln__> oh, right 14:03:59 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 14:12:41 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-181-185.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:14:27 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.152.167.220] has joined #openttd 14:32:01 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:40:02 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has left #openttd [] 14:42:32 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:43:10 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 14:46:01 <peter1138> oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit 14:46:11 <peter1138> i accidentally left ottd running :S 14:47:21 <Thorn_> is that one 'i' for every year that passed? 14:47:32 <peter1138> no, that would have rather more is 14:47:35 <peter1138> it's now 2051 14:47:40 <peter1138> and my company went bankrupt 14:47:49 <peter1138> (probably because disasters are enabled) 14:48:16 <peter1138> and network_client.tmp isn't used any more 14:48:17 <peter1138> oh cock 14:49:28 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-94-112-27-160.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:49:36 <Terkhen> patch: pause automatically after X days without any action 14:49:38 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50:02 <peter1138> yeah! 14:50:25 <supermop> that is a decent idea 14:50:26 <planetmaker> a heaven for autosaves 14:50:30 <Thorn_> huh? but i quite often leave it for a while until some event happens (new plane invented, etc) 14:50:45 <peter1138> Thorn_, hence "X" days, i.e. user fiddlable 14:50:46 <supermop> turn off the patch then? 14:51:12 <supermop> also, maybe its like fast forward, you can switch it on and off at will? 14:51:13 <Thorn_> i hope that's real days? ;p 14:51:19 *** KenjiE20 [~kenji@host-92-8-65-148.as43234.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:51:42 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw3-ffa8c300-33.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 14:52:02 <peter1138> erm, nope? 14:52:06 <Terkhen> heh :D 14:52:37 <Thorn_> :( 14:52:38 <peter1138> yeah, i can see the big green patch on the map where my network would've been 14:52:42 <peter1138> destroy by disasters 14:52:46 <peter1138> the rest of it is brown 14:53:20 <peter1138> Thorn_ appears to have a problem with something that 1) doesn't exist yet and 2) would be optional if it did 14:53:20 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 14:53:43 <Thorn_> i dont mind if its optional 14:53:46 <Thorn_> ;p 14:53:47 <Terkhen> Thorn_: it could use big numbers, for example, 5000 in-game days 14:53:55 <Terkhen> or be disabled 14:54:08 <planetmaker> of course there'll be an option to disable it. 14:54:17 <planetmaker> like setting it to 0 ;-) 14:54:18 <peter1138> who's writing this? hehe 14:54:25 <planetmaker> oh... sempersaudumquerens 14:55:16 * Terkhen goes back to what he was doing before talking :P 14:56:11 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-94-112-27-160.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 14:57:43 *** KenjiE20 [~kenji@host-92-8-65-148.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 14:58:12 <Eddi|zuHause> crawling? crying? wearing diapers? 14:59:13 <Terkhen> given how boring this is, I guess I'll go with crying 15:00:53 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f71e0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:09:19 *** ashledombos [~ashledomb@marvin-18-230.cnt.nerim.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:24:45 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has joined #openttd 15:25:57 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-94-112-27-160.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:28:12 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B1057BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:29:59 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:30:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6B1DE.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:31:18 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 15:33:35 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:33:59 *** amkoroew1 [~Heinz@p5B107FA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:35:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D887.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:39:08 <Belugas> boring? surely not as boring as reading those logs :S 15:39:23 <Belugas> 30 freaking faulty transactions. 15:39:26 <Belugas> 20 days 15:39:45 <Belugas> 3 different systems to follow events 15:39:53 <Belugas> BOOOOOOOOOORING!!! 15:40:05 <Terkhen> sounds quite boring too 15:42:27 <frosch123> maybe faulty transactions would become more interesting if they direct towards your own bank account 15:43:27 <Belugas> to say the least, Terkhen :) 15:43:33 <Terkhen> :P 15:43:48 <Belugas> i would that so much, frosch123 :) 15:43:58 <Belugas> it's for a jewelery store 15:44:04 <Belugas> you should see the amounts... 15:44:17 <Belugas> i would <LIKE>... 15:44:45 <frosch123> :p 15:47:44 *** ashledombos [~ashledomb@ris91-2-82-227-26-30.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:53:50 <planetmaker> :-) 15:54:03 <planetmaker> Belugas, you should have the power to 'fix' it 'properly' ;-) 15:54:20 <Terkhen> grep them out? :P 15:54:56 <planetmaker> That's not enough... or how would that direct anything to his bank account? ;-) 15:55:26 <frosch123> planetmaker: i guess the optimum would be money to him, gems to his wife :p 15:55:48 <planetmaker> :-D 15:56:00 <planetmaker> sounds like a good plan, I guess 15:56:08 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 15:56:42 <planetmaker> Like "if you give me the gems, I'll make sure that I'll transfer the money to my account"? and hoping the flaw in that logic will not be detected :-P 15:56:58 <Belugas> i love that plan :D 15:57:18 <Belugas> i'll send an email to the owner riht now 15:57:24 <planetmaker> :-) 16:14:07 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe64de00-55.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:17:28 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-94-112-27-160.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:17:43 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:18:33 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-94-112-27-160.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [] 16:41:03 *** ashledombos [~ashledomb@ris91-2-82-227-26-30.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:43:36 *** ashledombos [~ashledomb@ris91-2-82-227-26-30.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 16:45:58 <ChoHag_> In YACD, given an accepting industry, is there a way to quickly see which industries will supply it? 16:48:09 *** ashledombos [~ashledomb@ris91-2-82-227-26-30.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:48:46 *** goblin [~goblin@dslb-092-074-192-098.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:55:24 *** ashledombos [~ashledomb@ris91-2-82-227-26-30.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:13:18 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.152.167.220] has quit [Quit: brb] 17:15:08 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-94-112-27-160.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:17:38 <Eddi|zuHause> no 17:23:48 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.152.167.220] has joined #openttd 17:29:52 <Eddi|zuHause> there was once a case of two transaction software authors who programmed the rounding routine to transfer everything < 10^-4¢ to their own account 17:30:58 *** ndh [~opera@dslb-088-073-126-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:31:12 <Eddi|zuHause> if millions of transactions go through there every day, that is quite an amount of money 17:31:34 <Eddi|zuHause> they only got caught like 20 years later, when the software was reviewed 17:31:38 *** ndh [~opera@dslb-088-073-126-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #openttd [] 17:32:19 *** ndh [~opera@dslb-088-073-126-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:44:10 <SpComb> michi_cc: your www.icosahedron.de AAAA was broken a short while ago, but seems to have magically fixed itself 17:46:26 <Rubidium> you better avoid IPv6 with that host; it seems to fail more often than not :( 17:47:20 <michi_cc> SpComb: My ISP changed their IPv6 network some time ago and it seems they still don't have worked out all the kinks yet. 17:47:21 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:47:24 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:48:17 <SpComb> yeah, it was an ICMPv6 Destination unreachable from within their network 17:50:01 <SpComb> ew, `make` pollutes my home directory with .renum files :( 17:50:33 <SpComb> and throws a hellofalot of errors 17:50:37 <michi_cc> Not that I'm totally happy about that, but at least as an "early adopter" I'm not paying anything extra. 17:50:47 <SpComb> "A portion of sprite ... could not be processed." 17:51:57 <Rubidium> SpComb: you need a newer nforenum 17:52:14 <SpComb> *blink* I have nforenum? 17:52:25 <Ammler> michi_cc: that you don't pay is the issue 17:52:36 <Ammler> so you can't "force" those to fix it :-) 17:52:40 <Rubidium> SpComb: otherwise there wouldn't be a .renum directory 17:52:43 <SpComb> hmm, seems I have the apt package installed 17:52:54 <Rubidium> that's ancient 17:53:04 <SpComb> can I just remove it? 17:53:10 <Rubidium> yes 17:53:19 <SpComb> or tell OpenTTD to not use it? 17:53:20 <Rubidium> though remove grfcodec as well 17:53:44 <Ammler> openttd should make version check 17:54:01 <Rubidium> OpenTTD will always use it if it is there and the source files for the .grf are newer than the .grf 17:54:04 <SpComb> I can't even remember installing nforenum from apt 17:54:25 <Rubidium> SpComb: I guess you installed the build-deps 17:54:31 <SpComb> that I did 17:54:49 <Rubidium> Debian fancies building everything from source 17:55:36 <Rubidium> Ammler: it tries to, IIRC 17:57:42 <Ammler> Rubidium: I guess it just fails because it can't handle png 17:59:54 <Rubidium> but the fact that older versions don't give an error when --version doesn't exist and it doesn't quite give a useful version for that 18:01:10 <Ammler> Rubidium: those versions would be too old anyway, wouldn't? 18:01:51 <Rubidium> yes, but also others that give a version with --version are too old 18:03:22 <Ammler> grfcodec has --version now? 18:03:50 <Rubidium> well, -v but what's the difference? 18:04:48 <Ammler> didn't work here 18:05:56 <Ammler> well, the problems will arise, if there are different grfcodec with png support 18:06:17 *** andythenorth [~Andy@213.99.112.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 18:06:17 <Rubidium> it shows a human readable version useful for debugging stuff 18:06:17 <Rubidium> then you're using a too old grfcodec 18:06:33 <Rubidium> as -v definitely works for me 18:06:46 <Ammler> yes -v does, --version doesn't 18:06:50 <Ammler> also -V doesn't 18:08:10 *** Cybert1nus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:10:51 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Write error: connection closed] 18:13:39 *** JVassie_ [~James@host-92-27-149-231.static.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 18:18:55 *** JVassie [~James@host-92-27-149-231.static.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:20:52 <andythenorth> am I the only one who thinks offsetting canal boats to one side is daft? 18:20:53 <andythenorth> :P 18:21:20 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:21:27 <frosch123> make them change sides on wednesday or so :p 18:22:00 <frosch123> alternatively you can start putting green buoys in the middle of canals 18:22:05 <frosch123> then noone can complain 18:23:13 <frosch123> but yes, ships should take the whole tile 18:23:14 <andythenorth> doing this thing would cause bug reports 18:23:22 <frosch123> and canals should be two tiles wide 18:23:35 <frosch123> most locks also have two sides 18:25:08 <andythenorth> one way canals? 18:25:45 * frosch123 notices he has no idea how canal junctions work 18:29:17 <TWerkhoven> not so much junctions as forks, as there would be in a river 18:35:15 * SpComb wonders if smooth animations when pressing "Location" buttons would be feasible 18:35:59 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 18:37:01 <SpComb> do all industry/vehicle GRFs work okay with YACD? 18:37:11 <andythenorth> no 18:37:19 <SpComb> problematics? 18:37:41 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: smooth scroll is already an option, iirc 18:37:55 <andythenorth> eGRVTS capacities are too high for later vehicles - use 'vehicles never expire' and 'low breakdowns (or off)' 18:38:08 <andythenorth> FIRS is insanely hard with YACD 18:38:13 <andythenorth> FISH needs more small boats 18:38:15 <SpComb> Eddi|zuHause: correct 18:38:22 * SpComb enables it 18:38:28 <andythenorth> AV8 is - if anything - much better with YACD 18:38:40 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:38:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i find airplanes really hopeless with destinations 18:38:53 <SpComb> andythenorth: tram/road capacities too high? 18:38:56 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 18:40:00 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: you might want to check http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=947271#p947271 ;) 18:40:16 <SpComb> Eddi|zuHause: I noticed 18:40:37 <SpComb> brought back bad memories about git 18:40:51 <Eddi|zuHause> hehe ;) 18:41:25 <SpComb> I'm not sure if I want to go and try and do the same git tricks with yacd 18:41:31 <SpComb> upstream rebases kill 18:42:06 *** DDR [~DDR@d99-199-10-67.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:43:38 <SpComb> ah, city view shows the pax routing 18:43:59 <SpComb> although slightly confusingly in terms of "outgoing cargo" 18:45:30 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-94-112-27-160.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:45:37 <peter1138> hm 18:45:44 <peter1138> i suppose i should start a new game :p 18:46:07 * andythenorth feels the same 18:46:12 <andythenorth> mp yacd :P 18:46:20 <peter1138> it was! 18:46:27 <peter1138> but no newgrfs 18:46:31 <andythenorth> lame :( 18:46:44 <peter1138> cos frankly they're still too hard to install on a server :( 18:46:46 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 18:47:23 <SpComb> and the station window doesn't actually show what mode of destiantion breakdown is currently selected 18:47:42 <andythenorth> bah 18:47:49 * andythenorth should write code or draw pixels 18:47:54 <andythenorth> but a yacd game is more appealing 18:47:59 <peter1138> i'm not saying i won't use newgrf 18:48:01 <peter1138> just that i hadn't 18:48:49 <peter1138> also i still don't know the correct way to specify newgrfs downloaded from the content system :p 18:49:13 <peter1138> (or rather, how to find out what to list) 18:50:35 <peter1138> content select all 18:50:40 <peter1138> mightn't've been a good idea :p 18:50:50 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: easiest to make a scenario on the client, and upload it onto the server 18:51:09 <peter1138> otoh, gb.binaries.openttd.org is... er... localhost there 18:51:09 <Eddi|zuHause> handles all newgrf trouble automatically 18:53:26 <peter1138> well i'm lazy then 18:53:41 <peter1138> so someone want to set up a scenario for a yacd 2.2 game? :p 18:55:23 * andythenorth hopes someone does that 18:55:27 <andythenorth> and invites him to the game 18:56:24 <andythenorth> I'll need to update 18:56:30 <andythenorth> YACD 1.2 is so...old school 19:02:59 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-94-112-27-160.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:03:05 <peter1138> yeah 19:04:25 <SpComb> nice to see a cargodist-variant on yacd 19:06:32 * peter1138 mumbles about mb's newstations not being on bananas :p 19:08:22 <supermop> heh 19:10:04 <andythenorth> how do I update yacd? 19:10:12 <andythenorth> it always tells me I already have the patch 19:10:18 <andythenorth> patch -r ? 19:10:19 <andythenorth> first? 19:10:27 <SpComb> does YACD still do silly things with pax going from a station to itself, and not bringing in any income? 19:11:03 <Rubidium> SpComb: if it did with the version from 2 weeks ago, then it still does (though there hasn't been a new version) 19:11:43 <SpComb> mine seems to say YACD 2.2 19:12:20 <Rubidium> yeah, then you're using 'head' 19:12:50 <SpComb> ah, found the 2.2 "release" post 19:14:11 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-164-102.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:16:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm amazed how quickly someone can conclude from one single (unreleased) grf to "all grfs do it like this" 19:17:00 <Terkhen> assuming that seems simpler and faster than "I should try all grfs to know for sure" 19:17:30 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@p57A6DC6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:21:46 <andythenorth> I guessed what you'd be referring to 19:21:48 <andythenorth> and I was right 19:21:52 <andythenorth> can I have my prize? 19:22:28 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. go to google.com and get a cooke. 19:25:20 <andythenorth> hmm 19:25:25 <andythenorth> he's often right though 19:25:30 <andythenorth> often for the wrong reasons 19:25:35 <andythenorth> or wrong, with right reasons 19:28:12 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: for your suggestion - is the significant fact that it makes more/less money? 19:28:17 <andythenorth> or that it adds nice intricacy? 19:28:24 <andythenorth> or is it just realism? 19:31:51 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought i explained that in the thread 19:33:24 <Eddi|zuHause> no, the significant fact is not "more money", the significant fact is "sensible game balance model" 19:33:55 <SpComb> it would be nice to be able to hide some .grf's from the full list of GRF files 19:34:11 <SpComb> when picking GRFs for a new game 19:34:16 <SpComb> e.g. the z_obsolete stuff from the ottdc grf pack 19:35:35 <Eddi|zuHause> only GRFs for which a newer version (as per action 14) exists are hidden 19:36:00 *** bryjen [~bryjen@76.92.85.169] has joined #openttd 19:36:22 <SpComb> in terms of managing it 19:36:52 <SpComb> not entirely sure I really like the NewGRF Settings window anyways 19:41:03 <SpComb> best rv set for temperate with DB Set? 19:41:08 <SpComb> still German RVs? 19:48:54 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@p57A6DC6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:48:58 <Eddi|zuHause> it still doesn't have useful trucks though 19:52:14 * SpComb has no clue what's been happening on the GRF scene since he last played a year ago 19:54:07 <Eddi|zuHause> MB threw a fit (or multiple) because andythenorth keeps changing the cargo scheme :p 19:54:38 <andythenorth> apparently it's both perfectly flexible by design, but also shouldn't be changed :P 19:54:43 <andythenorth> ermm 19:54:46 <andythenorth> what else? 19:54:54 <andythenorth> planetmaker has made about 9,000 grfs 19:59:06 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc16-lewi15-2-0-cust395.2-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:06:53 <Eddi|zuHause> "linux 3.0"? i think they're getting crazy :p 20:07:18 <Eddi|zuHause> brb 20:07:42 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76427.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:17 <Terkhen> weren't they talking about 2.8? 20:12:36 <TWerkhoven> either or afaik 20:12:47 *** Amis [~Amis@catv-89-135-77-239.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Quit: *pop*] 20:15:54 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76427.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:23:32 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: actually, the current numbers are crazy as well... 2.6.27.59 20:23:53 <Rubidium> that's 60 bugfix releases of the same kernel 20:24:43 <Eddi|zuHause> it's a fairly old kernel, though 20:25:23 <Rubidium> 2.6.32.41 then? ;) 20:25:35 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, try to apply that same versioning to the windows kernel :p 20:26:03 <Rubidium> they use the 3.0 "format" 20:26:52 <Rubidium> 2k cam with the 5.0 kernel, XP came with 5.1, Vista with 6, 7 with 6.1 20:26:56 <Eddi|zuHause> the 3.0 thing is more like java 1.5 -> java 5 20:27:35 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: true, but the development model changed as well 20:28:07 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:28:28 <Rubidium> pre 2.6 major development happened in x.y (y % 2 = 1), now all development happens in 2.6 20:28:33 <Eddi|zuHause> so when we change development model here we release openttd 2.0? ;) 20:29:04 <Rubidium> once we figured out we're not going to do the old method, yes! 20:30:16 <Rubidium> but then, our flux is much smaller so backports are easier to do 20:30:47 <Rubidium> and we don't have to provide support for state of the art hardware 20:31:33 <Eddi|zuHause> you have blocked out the storm of "support XYZ mobile device" threads in the forum? :p 20:31:56 <planetmaker> good evening 20:32:49 <Rubidium> it'll work fine if the resolution is big enough, the mouse precision good enough, and the operating system being supported by e.g. sdl or allegro 20:33:21 <Rubidium> evening maker of planets 20:35:30 <Wolf01> 'night 20:35:40 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host223-159-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:36:02 *** Cybert1nus is now known as Cybertinus 20:36:04 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:39:24 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe64de00-55.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:40:18 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [] 20:42:56 <planetmaker> [21:54] andythenorth planetmaker has made about 9,000 grfs <-- eh? 20:43:30 <andythenorth> well a few anyway 20:43:38 <andythenorth> he asked what had changed in newgrf recently 20:43:50 <Eddi|zuHause> at least half a dozen OpenGFX+ grfs 20:44:36 <planetmaker> yes. Though I didn't write all on my own. And some I only added tiny pieces ;-) 20:44:39 <Rubidium> pff... count the revisions in the hg repositories (and multiply by 6 for the ogfx repository) 20:44:47 <planetmaker> :-) 20:45:18 <planetmaker> andythenorth: you've done surely as much as I, though 20:45:31 <andythenorth> not recently 20:45:32 <planetmaker> I didn't do much graphical work. You did lots. 20:45:37 <Rubidium> ~450 revisions in OGFX -> ~2.5k 20:45:50 <Rubidium> so it can't be off by an order of magnitude 20:45:59 <planetmaker> :-) 20:46:22 <planetmaker> that's astrophysical assessment. within +/- 1 order of magnitude is accurate :-P 20:47:00 <Rubidium> @calc 2500/900 20:47:00 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 2.77777777778 20:47:09 <Rubidium> @calc 9000/2500 20:47:09 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 3.6 20:47:15 <Rubidium> hmm, okay... not quite there yet 20:47:25 <Rubidium> 200 in FIRS 20:48:08 <Rubidium> 200 in Swedish rails 20:49:20 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:49:28 <SpComb> yacd tells me I have 141pax waiting at a station, with 129 en-route via ... - where are the rest? 20:49:42 <Rubidium> some 100 in total for TTRS, snowline, ogfx trees, ogfx+, ... which makes 3k 20:49:46 <Rubidium> @calc 3000/900 20:49:46 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 3.33333333333 20:49:53 <Rubidium> @calc 9000/3000 20:49:54 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 3 20:50:19 <Rubidium> so the number of commits is relatively closer to 9000 than to 900 20:52:16 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 20:54:06 <planetmaker> hg log -u planetmaker --template='{desc}\n' | wc -l over all newgrf projects ogfx+*, opengfx, swedish rails, snowlinemod and incl. firs, heqs, fish, 2cctrainset, nutracks gives... 20:54:33 <planetmaker> @calc 577+236+19+43+259+69+145+95+304+301+138+165 20:54:33 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 2351 20:54:45 <planetmaker> oh well... :-) 20:54:49 <planetmaker> that number :-) 20:54:52 <Rubidium> opengfx must be multiplied by 6 20:55:02 <planetmaker> hm, I forgot ttrs 20:55:09 <planetmaker> and ogfx+trees 20:55:49 <planetmaker> that*s another 63. 20:55:54 <Terkhen> meh, I broke my mingw 20:55:59 <planetmaker> then opengfx is 577*6 20:56:21 <planetmaker> @calc 577*5 + 2351 +63 20:56:22 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 5299 20:56:36 <Rubidium> wow, you're even closer to 9000 absolutely 20:58:39 <planetmaker> and openmsx, opensfx and the newgrf framework if one wants. But not every commit to opengfx changes all 6 grfs 20:59:47 <Rubidium> it does... it's a new release under a new version 21:00:07 <Rubidium> it might not physically change everything, but you can definitely sell it as a new version 21:00:12 <planetmaker> the 5 grfs have no version. The version is only in the opengfx.obg 21:00:41 <planetmaker> and in the extra grf of course 21:00:45 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: that cargo aging debate is getting a bit silly? 21:00:50 <andythenorth> -? 21:01:25 <Eddi|zuHause> MB does have that effect on longer lasting discussions 21:02:27 <andythenorth> is your proposal better than enhancing the existing profit calculation cb? 21:02:29 <Rubidium> tip: never discuss something NewGRF related that is used in something MB released 21:02:36 <andythenorth> hmm 21:02:39 <andythenorth> oh yes 21:02:45 *** DDR [~DDR@d99-199-10-67.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: In democracy it's your vote that counts; In feudalism it's your count that votes. - Mogens Jallberg] 21:02:47 <andythenorth> I maintain he's often right though 21:03:31 <planetmaker> he has a solid understanding of how it works. But... that makes not all deductions of how things *should work* right 21:03:54 <Eddi|zuHause> this isn't about whether he is right or not. this is about once he made up his mind he stays there 21:04:22 <Eddi|zuHause> and at that point the arguments go in circles 21:04:27 <andythenorth> he probably admitted he was wrong somewhere once 21:04:32 <andythenorth> probably in the german forum 21:04:38 <andythenorth> which is now archived I imagine 21:05:22 <Eddi|zuHause> some ancient newsgroup thread :p 21:05:34 <Eddi|zuHause> or better: a private mail conversation :p 21:08:13 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 21:10:10 *** ndh [~opera@dslb-088-073-126-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #openttd [] 21:10:28 *** ndh [~opera@dslb-088-073-126-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:13:42 <SpComb> heh, trains are teleported out of depots? 21:15:16 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-181-185.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 21:16:31 *** ndh [~opera@dslb-088-073-126-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #openttd [] 21:16:52 *** ndh [~opera@dslb-088-073-126-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:19:31 *** ashledombos [~ashledomb@ris91-2-82-227-26-30.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20:16 *** ashledombos [~ashledomb@ris91-2-82-227-26-30.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 21:23:14 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:24:54 <SpComb> argh, managed to screw up that game 21:25:12 <SpComb> hardware reset itself, and I didn't have autosave on for various banal reasons 21:25:36 <SpComb> lost like two game-years of play or so :( 21:25:39 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25:53 <SpComb> no point playing that map anymore, really :( 21:27:10 *** ar3k [~ident@ecs217.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: âI-n-v-i-s-i-o-nâ 3.2 (July '10)] 21:29:44 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0497ba.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:32:09 *** andythenorth [~Andy@213.99.112.87.dyn.plus.net] has left #openttd [] 21:32:48 *** goblin [~goblin@dslb-092-074-192-098.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:34:14 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-94-112-27-160.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:38:09 *** TWerkhoven [~turbulent@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 21:39:15 *** ar3k [~ident@ecs217.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 21:39:16 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 21:42:47 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f71e0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46:59 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-77-37-203-211.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 21:49:53 <Eddi|zuHause> a 2MB diff... how crazy 21:52:36 <Terkhen> :O 21:54:17 <Terkhen> 47841 lines 21:54:54 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:06:22 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:09:05 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:11:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C050.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13:03 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-161-134.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [Quit: asilv] 22:13:39 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:19:48 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:33:29 *** ndh [~opera@dslb-088-073-126-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #openttd [] 22:41:26 <Terkhen> good night 22:47:36 <planetmaker> good night Terkhen 22:47:48 <planetmaker> and... sounds like a VERY good idea. So good night all :-) 22:48:05 *** ar3k [~ident@eck29.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 22:55:26 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ecs217.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:58:08 *** Juo [~Juo@cpc16-lewi15-2-0-cust395.2-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Juo] 23:06:59 *** TomyLobo [~foo@port-212-202-171-169.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 23:07:09 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:07:37 <TomyLobo> hi 23:07:59 <TomyLobo> we started our multiplayer map in the wrong year, but we like that map. any way to fast-forward a few years? 23:08:47 <TomyLobo> it's a dedi 23:14:05 <Ammler> no 23:14:21 <Ammler> just save it locally, cheat and load it again 23:14:40 <TomyLobo> meh 23:14:47 <TomyLobo> it's only 2 more years anyway :) 23:14:56 <Ammler> half an hour 23:15:08 <Eddi|zuHause> then load locally, fast forward, and load it back 23:15:37 <TomyLobo> thanks, that helps :) 23:15:53 <Ammler> how does that help more? 23:16:18 <TomyLobo> i can go afk 23:17:08 <Ammler> ah, you mean "half an hour" 23:17:42 <Ammler> 1year ~ 14mins 23:25:28 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 23:26:16 <Eddi|zuHause> wasn't it more like 12 minutes? 23:29:13 *** rellig_107 [~rellig@argon247.server4you.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:59 *** DDR [~DDR@d99-199-10-67.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:37:49 *** rellig [~rellig@argon247.server4you.de] has joined #openttd 23:38:28 *** murr4y [~murray@229.84-48-69.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:48:19 *** murr4y [~murray@229.84-48-69.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd