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DDR [~DDR@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: In democracy it's your vote that counts; In feudalism it's your count that votes. - Mogens Jallberg] 09:02:51 <lugo> ah well, new firs implicitly needs a non-patchpack version :( 09:03:19 <Pinkbeast> Which is awkward because we all play Chill's or YACD? 09:03:24 <lugo> those rivers are georgeous btw :) 09:03:59 <planetmaker> lugo, it doesn't ask for a non-PP version. But it requires r22780 or newer 09:04:16 <planetmaker> just update your PP ;-) 09:04:42 <planetmaker> and no, the only PP I currently play - if patched at all - is YACD ;-) 09:05:09 <Pinkbeast> I can't do without autoseperation for pax/mail 09:05:27 <Pinkbeast> ... it's a pity no-one has quite made it work 09:06:37 <planetmaker> auto-separation is not that much important really... even though might be nice 09:07:41 <Pinkbeast> It is _quite_ hard to do a pax service in any kind of cargo distribution world without it. 09:09:31 <planetmaker> I must have missed the hard part there. 09:09:38 <planetmaker> Just setup routes and you're done 09:09:52 <planetmaker> especially with cargod*st 09:10:40 <Pinkbeast> Whichever vehicle has the largest gap in front of it spends the most time loading. Soon they are all bunched together. 09:11:00 *** pjpe [ae5f3b40@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 09:13:14 <planetmaker> allow for full load time at each station 09:13:37 <planetmaker> and use time tables 09:13:43 <Pinkbeast> Er... so construct a timetable by hand? 09:14:08 <Pinkbeast> There's a reason I like autoseperation 09:15:23 *** TheMask96- [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 09:16:05 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:20:22 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has left #openttd [PART #openttdcoop.dev :PING 1314696022] 09:25:58 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFD7B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:26:23 <fjb> Moin 09:26:31 <planetmaker> hi fjb 09:26:40 <fjb> Hi planetmaker 09:26:50 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-187-188.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 09:28:18 *** TheMask96- [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:29:26 <planetmaker> yeah... chill hasn't been much active lately 09:30:10 <fjb> Maybe he is chilling. :) 09:30:16 <planetmaker> :-P 09:30:24 <Pinkbeast> I fear patchpatch makers tend to get burned out 09:30:40 <planetmaker> it's tedious work 09:31:30 * fjb is fighting with YADP and current trunk. 09:31:58 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 09:32:09 <fjb> YACD 09:32:16 <Pinkbeast> fjp> Is that a typo for Y oh never mind 09:32:38 <fjb> It is a typo any way. 09:36:05 <Terkhen> good morning 09:45:23 <fjb> Moin Terkhen 09:48:50 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.153.138.44] has joined #openttd 09:56:00 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-5d820724.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:04:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19C34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:11:04 *** xahodo [~chatzilla@xahodo.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: I'm melting...] 10:11:22 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:24:20 *** welshdragon [~welsh@client-86-31-222-122.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:29:14 *** lessthanthree [lt3@d75-154-187-134.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by queer] 10:36:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't suppose there's an 80+ or 40+ variable for "position in articulated vehicle chain"? 10:36:43 <planetmaker> not that I know. But for consist vs. whole train 10:37:25 <planetmaker> i.e. 40 and 41 10:37:50 <planetmaker> but you knew that :-) 10:41:54 <Eddi|zuHause> it would be... helpful... 10:42:54 <Yexo> eddi: if the first part has a different id from the rest of the parts than you could use var 41 10:43:39 <Yexo> if all articulated vehicles using the same ID are always the same length you can use (var 41 mod vehicle_length) 10:44:13 <Yexo> that should cover almost all use cases 10:44:43 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: yes, but if i want to code an articulated vehicle with 4 (visual) wagons and 3 logical vehicles per wagon, i might want to have a consist AxxBxxBxxCxx 10:44:51 <Eddi|zuHause> then var 41 won't be helpful 10:45:22 <Yexo> so each wagon is articulated with 3 parts? 10:45:35 <planetmaker> unless from another set 10:45:35 <Eddi|zuHause> no, the whole consist is articulated 10:45:59 <Yexo> so the consistent consist of 12 parts? 10:46:01 <planetmaker> uh hm, but... if it's articulated... then you know the vehicle IDs 10:46:02 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 10:46:05 <planetmaker> and numbering 10:46:11 <Yexo> so why is var 41 not helpful? 10:46:31 <Yexo> position in chain of consecutive vehicles with same ID 10:46:42 <Yexo> ie 0 for A, 3 for B, 6 for second B and 9 for C 10:46:47 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: i can't determine wether it is the first or second B in the consist 10:47:02 *** lessthanthree [lt3@d75-154-187-134.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 10:47:11 <planetmaker> Where does that matter, if it's the same wagon? 10:47:18 <planetmaker> if you know vehicleID and pos % 3 10:47:22 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: refits of 2/3/4 wagons 10:47:40 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: but refits can't change the amount of wagons 10:47:47 <Eddi|zuHause> lots of magic that i haven't quite worked out yet 10:47:52 <Yexo> visually they can, but not the actual amount of wagons 10:47:58 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: yes 10:48:22 <Yexo> so if all those parts have the same ID you can check for position 3 or 6 with var 41 10:48:24 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: basically it's the same concept as HEQS trams... only much larger scope 10:48:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i need a bit more flexibility 10:49:35 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: now imagine i have two articulated chains in one train, possibly of slightly different layout 10:49:52 <Pinkbeast> Oh, the crazy refittable HEQS trams? 10:50:05 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: then neither var 40 nor var 41 can reliably tell me the proper location 10:50:10 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: the layout doesn't matter if they all have the same amount of parts 10:50:16 <Yexo> where number of parts are logical parts, not visible ones 10:50:40 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: yes, but i can't possibly be sure that assumption always holds 10:50:48 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, so, concatenating two arbitrary articulated vehicles? 10:50:59 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: yes 10:51:02 <Yexo> why not? you're writing the newgrf, you can chose the number of articulated parts 10:51:13 <planetmaker> AxxBxxBxxAxx - CxxCxxCxxDxx ? 10:51:39 <planetmaker> if they all have three parts... it still would work to know which of the single sub-vehicle you deal with 10:51:48 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: maybe AxxBxCxx + DxxExxFxx 10:51:58 <planetmaker> yes, what then? 10:52:04 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: var 41 counts vehicles with the same ID 10:52:06 <Eddi|zuHause> Bx is only 2 parts 10:52:18 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: yes, 41 counts the x'es 10:52:20 <Yexo> so as long as the AxxBxCxx one has a different ID from the DxxExxFxx one there is no problem 10:53:06 <planetmaker> hm... we need to make sure to talk of the same... 10:53:15 <planetmaker> I considered Axx to be vehicles of one ID 10:53:19 <planetmaker> right? wrong? 10:53:22 <Eddi|zuHause> no 10:53:34 <Eddi|zuHause> A,B,C,x are each vehicles with different ID 10:53:58 <Yexo> oh, I misunderstood that too 10:54:07 <planetmaker> indeed :-) 10:54:29 <Yexo> but if AxxBxxBxxAxx is one articulated vehicle, why don't you code it as AAAAAAAAAAAA? 10:55:06 <planetmaker> or AAABBBBBBAAA 10:56:01 <V453000> looks sane :D 10:56:07 <Eddi|zuHause> currently all (visually) non-articulated vehicles are coded as Axx, where A is a vehicle-ID > 128, and x is one <128, shared between multiple vehicles 10:56:08 <planetmaker> maybe... what's the aim, Eddi|zuHause ? 10:56:42 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: and in which part is the problem, the x or the A / B / C vehicles? 10:57:02 <Eddi|zuHause> so the vehicle-ID "A" can be used for distinguishing the visualisation, length and stuff from the "x" vehicles 10:57:54 <Eddi|zuHause> A then has capacity, weight, power, etc. while x are just dummy-vehicles 10:57:55 <planetmaker> I guess the real issue is that articulatedID <128 is a requirement and it'd be gone if that was lifted, right? 10:58:15 <Eddi|zuHause> now with articulated vehicles like AxxBxxBxxCxx, B and C also need capacity 10:58:29 <Eddi|zuHause> which makes them logically different to the "x"es 10:58:40 <Eddi|zuHause> and stuffing all this logic into A is... troublesome 11:00:22 <Yexo> so does x need to know whether it's attached to A or B ? 11:00:38 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 11:00:46 <Yexo> and is that possible? 11:00:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a patch for that 11:01:25 <Eddi|zuHause> a 60+ variable that gives me the vehicle-id of the Nth wagon before/after this vehicle 11:01:38 <Eddi|zuHause> (logical wagon) 11:02:04 <Yexo> hmm, with http://wiki.openttd.org/Frosch/Secondary_Related_Objects that problem would also be solved 11:02:18 <Yexo> 4th related object for vehicles: first articulated part 11:02:55 <planetmaker> hm, quite so 11:05:26 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: but if you can get the vehicle-id of the Nth wagon before/after, you could just check the id of -3 and see if that's A or another B 11:05:36 <Yexo> ^^ to distinguish whether you are the first or second B 11:06:09 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds like something to put into a procedure... 11:06:58 <Eddi|zuHause> and i need to keep a table somewhere which vehicle-IDs have 1/2/3/4 logical parts 11:07:43 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, no, maybe i don't need that, because i already have different dummy-vehicles for those 11:08:37 <Eddi|zuHause> the other problem i still have not solved is that when every articulated vehicle has IDs for B and C, i quickly run out of vehicle-IDs < 128 11:09:38 <Yexo> another reason to code them as AAAAAAAAAAAA 11:09:49 <Yexo> might be a bit more work in the code, but you avoid the ID problems 11:10:02 <Yexo> and you won't need your patch for checking the vehicle-id 11:10:02 <planetmaker> not if you have more thatn 128 engines 11:10:12 <planetmaker> which CETS easily has 11:11:03 <Eddi|zuHause> or we need a "long" articulated callback, that allows IDs > 7F 11:11:24 <Yexo> or a new nfo version that changes the existing callback 11:11:26 <planetmaker> the proper solution IMHO is to allow any ID to be used as articulated 11:12:08 <Yexo> if the problem is only bit 7, why can't IDs 0x100..0x17F, 0x200..0x27F etc. be used already? 11:12:10 <Eddi|zuHause> that's problematic as you have 16-bit vehicle IDs, but only 15-bit callback results, and then you need 1 bit for "flipped", so you only have 14 bits left 11:12:38 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: no idea, didn't work when i tested it 11:12:41 <Yexo> I don't think anyone will care if it's limited to 14-bit vehicleIDs 11:13:09 <planetmaker> sure it won't bite us (again)? 11:13:09 <peter1139> well it probably just gets the lowest 7 bits 11:13:32 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: i'm pretty sure it will :p 11:13:43 <Yexo> sure, my question was more like: why can't the spec be changed to allow that? since it wouldn't break existing newgrfs (at least I hope not) 11:15:52 <Eddi|zuHause> there's the magic value "FF" that stops articulation (instead of attaching the vehicle 7F flipped) 11:17:36 <Lakie> planetmaker: I know its a daft question but is OpenGFX-Landscape 2.2 compatible with openTTD 1.0.2? 11:17:48 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-187-188.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:17:51 <Eddi|zuHause> Lakie: probably not 11:18:05 <planetmaker> Lakie, I'd wonder if it were 11:18:11 <planetmaker> It uses advanced sprite layouts 11:18:17 <Lakie> I see. 11:18:57 <Lakie> Ok, 11:19:38 <Eddi|zuHause> is there an example for using recolour tables in NML? 11:19:56 <Yexo> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Recolour_sprites this? 11:21:04 <planetmaker> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/526/ <-- you mean something more elaborate? 11:22:14 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: do you want to write your own recolour sprites or use some existing ones? 11:22:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i need my own 11:23:19 <planetmaker> for the different company liveries? 11:23:43 <Yexo> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/nml/raw-file/tip/regression/020_recolour.nml <- better example 11:23:45 <planetmaker> sounds more like something better not done by re-colouring 11:23:45 <Eddi|zuHause> for debug purposes, for front/back vehicle lights, for liveries, for possibly other stuff 11:25:04 <planetmaker> I'm not sure liveries via re-colouring is the best thing to do. It's rather limiting 11:25:14 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe 11:25:23 <planetmaker> changing lights... maybe 11:25:43 <Eddi|zuHause> e.g. the german tram set uses recolouring for (bulk) cargo graphics 11:25:54 <Yexo> it might be limited, but it's also a lot easier than changing the sprites manually for every livery 11:26:07 <planetmaker> also true. 11:26:30 <planetmaker> But it requires to follow some strict colouring rules during drawing 11:26:45 <planetmaker> whatever they may be in detail 11:26:55 <planetmaker> or you'd end up with a special re-colour sprite for each engine or so 11:27:14 <planetmaker> it might be a lot easier for wagons 12:17:48 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-187-188.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:19:56 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-79-222.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:28:44 <planetmaker> you save your newgrfs by the game, Eddi|zuHause ? 12:29:09 <Eddi|zuHause> only for this particular one, because someone needed to open it because of a bug report 12:29:20 <planetmaker> ah 12:30:09 <planetmaker> newgrf/newstatsw.grf <-- what is that? 12:30:26 <Eddi|zuHause> stations 12:30:40 <planetmaker> new stations... sure :-) 12:31:20 <Eddi|zuHause> seriously, how long have you been playing this game? :p 12:31:34 <planetmaker> 8-letter filenames are not always descriptive :-) 12:31:49 <Eddi|zuHause> those are 9 letters, anyway :p 12:31:54 <planetmaker> :-P 12:32:16 <planetmaker> then it could have been the 6 more to make it really clear as well 12:32:40 <planetmaker> anyway, I don't know each newgrf by filename ;-) 12:32:57 <planetmaker> And I found out one can have at least 400 NewGRFs more than I have :-P 12:33:29 <planetmaker> (i.e. 50% more - though newstatw.grf is on my hdds, too 12:34:01 <Eddi|zuHause> last_newgrf_count = 527 12:34:23 <planetmaker> i have a count like 783 or so 12:34:25 <Eddi|zuHause> but i don't have a lot of grfs from bananas 12:34:34 <planetmaker> many pointless ones, yes 12:34:48 <planetmaker> I find those which trigger the debug messages especially annoying ;-) 12:35:09 <planetmaker> but well... sometimes they're needed. So I keep them 12:35:43 *** Rezt [~Rezt@81-178-193-37.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 12:39:39 *** Rezt [~Rezt@81-178-193-37.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [] 12:53:22 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-250-245.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:56:15 *** krinn [~krinn@27.69.87.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 12:56:24 <krinn> hi 12:56:36 <krinn> noai api lack semaphore or i miss them ? 13:01:18 <__ln__> not flexing the verb in the third person, missing auxiliary verb, unnecessary space in front of a questionmark. 13:03:32 <krinn> no that space is need before and after a ? 13:03:59 <fjb> No 13:04:00 <__ln__> not before in english ortography. 13:04:22 <krinn> well, i'm not english and we do use a space before it 13:04:28 <__ln__> or most other languages either. french is an exception. 13:04:57 <krinn> eheh never do like others 13:07:55 *** Zeknurn [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:08:14 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:08:56 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-79-222.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 13:10:23 *** Zeknurn [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 13:11:18 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:11:19 <Belugas> hello 13:11:27 <krinn> hi 13:16:26 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 13:20:12 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-5d820724.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:20:44 <Belugas> mister krinn :) 13:22:26 <krinn> i'm a girl belugas 13:22:54 <krinn> no i'm not, was to bug you :) 13:24:09 <Belugas> hehehe 13:24:34 <Belugas> so with my usual lagging, i'm not gugged at all ;) 13:26:11 <krinn> your belgium Belugas right ? 13:26:19 <krinn> /syour/you're 13:26:53 <Belugas> i am due to the place i' 13:26:58 <Belugas> ve been born 13:27:09 <Belugas> but not to the place where i now live :) 13:27:42 <krinn> where did you moved ? 13:33:52 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 13:34:44 <Belugas> my parents moved in quebec when i was 4 13:35:57 <krinn> nice move, great place to live 13:39:08 <Belugas> i guess :) my dad had to choose between Guadeloup and Montreal. I'm not totally sure he picked the right place, but all in all, it's ok :) 13:42:57 <Eddi|zuHause> who would choose a tropical island over a snowy place... 13:43:26 <Belugas> yeah...who?... and more important: WHY????????? 13:44:35 <krinn> i prefer snow and nice place to live than tropical poor place 13:45:26 <Eddi|zuHause> there are tropical richt places :) 13:45:31 <Eddi|zuHause> -t 13:45:38 <krinn> :P 13:45:43 <krinn> but not the guadeloup 13:52:11 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 13:53:13 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-139-021.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:56:48 <Belugas> yep 14:05:56 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff1cc000-21.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:32:43 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff1cc000-21.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 14:33:27 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff1cc000-21.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:36:01 <planetmaker> hm... newgrf-specs.tt-wiki down or veeeery slow? 14:37:22 *** ar3kaw [~ident@eby86.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 14:37:44 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:46 <krinn> down for me 14:39:20 <TWerkhoven> just very slow for me 14:40:47 <krinn> forum is down too 14:41:16 <krinn> ah no, everything just came 14:43:06 *** ar3k [~ident@eby86.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:46:55 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-186-243.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:47:13 *** ar3kaw [~ident@eby86.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: âI-n-v-i-s-i-o-nâ 3.2 (July '10)] 14:47:13 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:24e9:e55b:44ba:1965] has joined #openttd 14:47:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:48:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6CAA3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:56:45 *** alluke [~591b0bad@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 15:03:35 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-78-102-180-2.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:07:35 *** alluke [~591b0bad@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:15:34 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 15:41:44 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:58 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d0080a4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:17:03 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e091fee.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:08:58 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-154-80-124.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:09:15 <LordAro> afternoonings 17:09:54 <LordAro> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=56478 <-- rather rude, dontcha think? :) 17:12:09 <Belugas> rude? 17:12:10 <Belugas> no 17:12:16 <Belugas> i would not say 17:12:17 <Yexo> not really, no 17:12:18 <Belugas> why? 17:13:37 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-154-80-124.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:14:56 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-154-80-124.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:15:35 * planetmaker doesn't think it's rude either. Maybe slightly demanding, but... 17:17:38 <Belugas> LordAro: "This is very annoying" <-- Stating the prolem 17:17:58 <Belugas> LordAro: "could it please be fixed?" <-- he said please 17:18:23 <Terkhen> I checked that issue once, it only happened on network games with huge maps for me 17:18:31 <Belugas> and he gave a good description of the problem. so it's not like throwing frustration ;) 17:18:36 <LordAro> true, but considering it hasn't been reported before... (i certainly haven't noticed it) 17:18:48 <LordAro> ok, i guess demanding would be a better word than rude :) 17:19:21 <Belugas> i don't recall seeing Emperor Jake here, by the way 17:20:55 <krinn> never saw that problem, but i don't play network game 17:21:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not quite sure if Belugas is the right expert in moderation-questions :p 17:22:55 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:22:59 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:24:50 <LordAro> hai Alberth 17:25:02 <Alberth> hi LordAro 17:25:08 <Alberth> just found your PM :) 17:25:19 <LordAro> :) 17:25:41 <LordAro> its out of date, i was going to send you another, but... youtube :) 17:26:06 <krinn> while you're here guys: noai doesn't handle semaphore right ? 17:26:08 <Alberth> you mean there are more important things than a openttd patch? :p 17:26:45 <Alberth> should I look at a newer version, or can go ahead with my current comments? 17:27:11 <LordAro> i don't have a newer version on me, but: 17:27:29 <LordAro> - i think i fixed the scrolling issues (for me anyway) 17:27:42 <Alberth> nice 17:28:17 <LordAro> - i have looked at (read: copied) some functions todo with removing whitespace and stripping characters in general 17:28:33 <LordAro> but have yet todo anything with them 17:29:06 <Alberth> so it seems best that you do that first, right? 17:29:24 <Alberth> just let me know when you need help in some way 17:29:43 <LordAro> :) will do 17:29:56 <LordAro> ... or i'll just pester someone else :L 17:30:10 <Yexo> krinn: not handle right in what way? 17:30:27 <Alberth> fine too :p 17:32:15 * Belugas lols at Eddi|zuHause 17:33:13 <Yexo> krinn: if you mean "never built semaphore signals" than you're right :) 17:33:51 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: i think he forgot a comma... "does not handle semaphores, right?" 17:34:19 <Yexo> ah, in that case: yes, it doesn't 17:38:06 <krinn> Yexo yep, i've look at signaltype, can't find a semaphore bit 17:38:29 <Yexo> it's not in signaltype, it's bit 4 of p1 in the call to CMD_BUILD_SIGNALS 17:38:34 *** Lord_Aro [~LordAro@host86-154-80-124.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:38:46 <Lord_Aro> again? seriously? >.< 17:39:07 * Alberth thinks one lord is sufficient :) 17:39:14 <krinn> Lord_Aro, the channel set autokick if you say the word lord 17:41:11 *** LordAro is now known as Guest7872 17:41:11 *** Lord_Aro is now known as LordAro 17:41:18 <LordAro> happy? :) 17:42:16 <krinn> hmmm EnforcePrecondition(false, ::IsValidSignalType(signal)); i don't think i could bypass the preconditions to force them 17:42:29 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-154-80-124.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42:32 <Yexo> no, you'll need to patch openttd 17:42:49 <Ammler> Alberth: I remember the ticket again ;-) 17:42:54 <krinn> what i was thinking yep 17:43:05 <Alberth> bummer ;) 17:43:09 <Ammler> Alberth: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2932 17:43:10 <krinn> lol Lord_aro rename and paf 17:44:47 *** Guest7872 [~LordAro@host86-154-80-124.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:44:49 <Eddi|zuHause> what's wrong with making the AI adhere to the "place semaphores before <year>" setting? 17:45:16 <Yexo> nothing, it's simply not yet implemented 17:45:17 <Alberth> Ammler: ah, it's a feature request 17:45:25 <Alberth> I'll look into it 17:45:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r22856 /trunk/src/lang/ (belarusian.txt french.txt italian.txt turkish.txt): 17:45:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: belarusian - 3 changes by KorneySan 17:45:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: french - 2 changes by Snail_ 17:45:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: italian - 6 changes by Snail_, lorenzodv 17:45:52 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: turkish - 40 changes by niw3 17:46:34 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-154-80-124.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:46:50 <LordAro> ^$%^&*!!! 17:46:53 <LordAro> :) 17:47:11 <Eddi|zuHause> get a bouncer 17:47:23 <Eddi|zuHause> just avoid openttdcoop :p 17:47:40 <LordAro> (yes, i did just run my finger along the top of the keyboard :) ) 17:48:32 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: according to Amml3r, it has been fixed 17:48:53 <Eddi|zuHause> what "it"? 17:49:01 <LordAro> the bouncer 17:49:15 <Yexo> it was not just the bouncer that went down 17:49:22 <LordAro> or whatever :) 17:49:25 <Yexo> the rest of the openttdcoop websites went down too 17:50:16 <LordAro> 'hypervisor' wasn't it? 17:51:45 <^Spike^> ammler says so and he said he fixed it... :) 17:51:50 * ^Spike^ still has to see that ;) 17:52:37 <krinn> bye all 17:52:47 *** krinn [~krinn@27.69.87.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 17:53:15 <LordAro> well, the 'daily openttdcoop ping timeout' hasn't occured, has it? 17:53:29 <__ln__> *occurred 17:53:38 <^Spike^> not that i've seen in our graphs either... 17:53:51 <LordAro> __ln__: shh! 17:55:28 * ^Spike^ goes back to learning the backup system for coop... 17:56:51 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: it is fixed :-P 17:57:20 * ^Spike^ tries not to comment... :) 17:58:15 <Ammler> shht 18:01:13 *** pjpe [ae5f3b40@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:03:20 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-154-80-124.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:03:44 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-154-80-124.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:05:15 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-154-80-124.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:06:08 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-154-80-124.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:06:39 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-154-80-124.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:07:26 *** LordAro [569a507c@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:08:22 <LordAro> given up on kvirc 18:10:42 * Terkhen is using x-chat now 18:10:51 <Terkhen> but I don't remember what made me change from kvirc to something else 18:11:24 <planetmaker> x-chat is quite nice 18:11:52 <Terkhen> I only miss the coloured nicknames 18:12:05 * LordAro looks into it :) 18:12:26 <LordAro> as Terkhen is the reason i'm using kvirc anyway :) 18:12:32 <planetmaker> Terkhen: aren't they coloured for you? 18:12:46 <planetmaker> they use random colours for me... but maybe that can be changed 18:12:49 * Yexo doesn't have coloured nicknames in x-chat either 18:13:04 <planetmaker> hm... I might check tomorrow 18:13:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:13:09 <LordAro> as Terkhen is the reason i'm using kvirc anyway :) 18:13:40 <Yexo> ah, there is an option for it 18:13:42 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.237] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:14:17 <Terkhen> I have them, but the colours don't have a lot of variety 18:14:34 <Terkhen> with kvirc, I had only two or four nicks with the same colours 18:15:20 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:16:33 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 18:19:24 <LordAro> hm, xcht doesn't appear to be portable, and that is one of my main requirements 18:20:15 <planetmaker> it's not very portable. There's y-chat on windows, though 18:20:27 <planetmaker> and there's a(n unusable) port to OSX 18:20:59 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.237] has joined #openttd 18:21:02 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 18:21:16 <Terkhen> on windows I use a unofficial build 18:21:25 <Terkhen> the official one has... strange terms of use 18:23:06 <andythenorth> rbrmomh 18:29:08 <Eddi|zuHause> gesundheit 18:36:13 <pjpe> does anyone happen to have a newest chilli's power pack version for mac os x that they can give me 18:36:31 <pjpe> lzma just does not want to make itself visible for ./configure 18:36:56 <planetmaker> then it's possibly installed in the wrong place 18:37:23 <pjpe> yeah 18:37:32 <pjpe> i've used brew and ports to install 18:37:37 <pjpe> lzma, xz, liblzma 18:37:38 <pjpe> uhh 18:37:42 <pjpe> maybe a few more things in there 18:37:51 <pjpe> i've tried the binary of xz 18:38:08 <pjpe> always gives me that same can't find lzma error 18:38:25 *** LordAro [569a507c@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 18:38:57 <planetmaker> can you paste config.log? 18:40:12 <planetmaker> and where actually are liblzma.*, namely liblzma.a and liblzma.dylib ? 18:40:17 <planetmaker> in your filesystem? 18:40:29 <planetmaker> and liblzma.la 18:42:11 *** LordAro [569a507c@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:42:17 <pjpe> http://pastebin.com/nfisCAfQ 18:42:25 <pjpe> this is after i specify where liblzma is 18:42:28 <pjpe> and it is there 18:42:29 <pjpe> i can see it 18:43:21 <planetmaker> .a is the static library. The dynamic one is .dylib 18:43:44 <planetmaker> and openttd links dynamically by default... 18:44:32 <pjpe> configure -h told me to use the .a 18:44:33 <pjpe> hang on 18:44:35 <pjpe> i'll try dylib 18:45:01 <pjpe> alright same thing except replace .a with .dylib 18:45:05 <planetmaker> pjpe: is /opl/local/bin in your path? 18:45:21 <planetmaker> /opt/local/bin 18:45:37 <LordAro> hmm. what text editor do you people use? personally i'm quite fond of gedit, but i'm open to other suggestions :) 18:46:05 <Terkhen> geany 18:46:09 <Yexo> I find the tabs for multiple open windows in gedit too limiting, so I use kate 18:46:21 <Yexo> s/windows/documents/ 18:47:39 *** Brianett1 [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:47:49 <planetmaker> pjpe: and the result w/o explicitly stating that lib's whereabouts? 18:48:54 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:49:03 *** Brianett1 is now known as Brianetta 18:51:05 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h84n7-ld-c-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #openttd 18:51:58 <Zuu> Hi, I'm not sure if you have already confirmed the crash on online content. I can report that I got this crash as well (have already reported to the bug tracker with the crash.* files) 18:53:10 <planetmaker> pjpe: and what does "pkg-config liblzma --modversion" give you? 18:54:37 <planetmaker> it's actually easily reproduced, Zuu. Thanks 18:55:09 <Zuu> It looks like it takes the NewGRFs from my NewGRF list. 18:55:15 <Zuu> Oh, good to hear 18:55:17 <planetmaker> so it seems 18:55:54 <Zuu> I only saw that the bug report was "new" and not "confirmed" and lacked some detials (all crash files). 18:55:55 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:12 <planetmaker> yes, I didn't until now try to reproduce it 18:56:12 <pjpe> http://pastebin.com/zathdrXM 18:56:23 <planetmaker> I just linked the posting where it was reported so that it's not forgotten 18:56:34 <pjpe> http://pastebin.com/wG2ZJELP 18:56:59 <Zuu> he, I couldn't find the forum post again when I got the same issue, but finding it on the bug report on the tracker was easy. :-) 18:57:36 <Zuu> I was actually going to try the new OpenGFX+ Landscape release :-) 18:57:45 <planetmaker> oh :-) 18:58:03 <planetmaker> well, get it from the bundle's server of the DevZone 18:58:14 <planetmaker> it's been in that state actually for quite some while... 18:58:25 <planetmaker> but I got annoyed at saying "check out the nightly" :-P 18:58:36 <planetmaker> thus I just tagged it ;-) 18:58:40 <Zuu> :-) 18:59:09 <planetmaker> and wondered how much I changed and didn't yet release ;-) 18:59:14 *** LordAro [569a507c@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:01:48 <planetmaker> that's a truncated config.lib, pjpe 19:02:14 <pjpe> i kinda got lazy copying all of it 19:02:25 <pjpe> hang on 19:02:27 <planetmaker> right. I guess I'll lazily go shopping now then 19:02:50 * andythenorth will lazily code 19:03:22 <pjpe> http://pastebin.com/Sf5Bc8bm 19:03:44 <pjpe> i set PKG_CONFIG_PATH to the one containing liblzma.pc and i get the exact same error from --modversion too 19:03:49 <andythenorth> anyone managed to beak FIRS 0.7.0-beta1 yet? 19:05:15 <pjpe> dammit forgot to export the path though 19:06:07 <pjpe> dammit that fixed it too 19:06:12 <pjpe> this was an exercise in frustration 19:06:20 <pjpe> thanks planemaker 19:16:06 <Alberth> oh, snowy industries! 19:18:32 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff1cc000-21.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 19:21:05 <andythenorth> schhhnow 19:26:49 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe93dd00-34.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 19:29:15 <planetmaker> lol :-) you're welcome 19:29:20 <planetmaker> sweet if it works now 19:29:30 <planetmaker> and I won't starve tomorrow morning either ;-) 19:40:18 <frosch123> [21:16] <Alberth> oh, snowy industries! <- belugas will regret he ever coded new industries :p 19:42:18 <Alberth> he hates snow? :) 19:42:48 <Yexo> at least now the industries are properly snow-aware and they're not statically snow via actionA or so 19:43:35 <andythenorth> :) 19:43:37 <planetmaker> :-) 19:43:48 <planetmaker> forest has best snow-awareness next to builder's yard 19:44:51 <andythenorth> does forest still have insane partial-snow-tile awareness? 19:45:04 <planetmaker> insane? Excellent! 19:48:21 *** KritiK [~Maxim@176.14.18.213] has joined #openttd 19:56:51 <frosch123> for the native english: do engines have a "lifetime" or a "life time" ? 19:57:08 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host26-234-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:57:35 <MNIM> depends on the context. 19:57:53 <Wolf01> evening 19:58:03 <MNIM> for an example, are we talking about the time of the engine's life, or are we talking about the duration of the engine's life? 19:58:07 <pjpe> probably an engine lifetime 19:58:10 <frosch123> take the purchase list: sort engines by lifetime or by life time 19:58:32 <frosch123> i think it is a duration 19:58:35 <MNIM> the latter. 19:59:06 <andythenorth> it's lifetime in common UK / US useage 19:59:09 <andythenorth> usage 19:59:15 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.99.41] has joined #openttd 20:00:05 <Eddi|zuHause> <Alberth> he hates snow? :) <-- i think he mentioned it a couple times :p 20:00:05 <frosch123> and an older engine then has a "remaining lifetime" or a "remaining life time"? :) 20:00:11 <andythenorth> lifetime 20:00:23 <andythenorth> it's one word 20:00:31 <frosch123> ok, thanks :) 20:01:42 *** macee [~macee@dsl4E5C1F99.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 20:03:06 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r22857 /trunk/src/lang/ (english.txt english_US.txt): -Fix: Spelling of lifetime. (monoid) 20:04:10 <andythenorth> frosch123: someone might disagree - but my dictionary was very clear :) 20:04:19 <Belugas> frosch123, Alberth: no, i do not exactly hate snow as such... rather the piling, the shuffling, the cold... the effects of the snow ;) 20:04:21 *** beijingguy [esben_smil@56342227.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 20:04:29 <Belugas> i do love the sceneries, tough 20:04:33 <Belugas> very much! 20:04:48 <Alberth> then you love FIRS 0.7 :p 20:05:01 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:25 <Belugas> then i WOULD ;) 20:08:04 *** beijingguy [esben_smil@56342227.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #openttd [] 20:09:36 <planetmaker> :-) 20:11:43 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:13:40 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:42 *** DJNekkid [~djnekkid@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:46 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:46 *** avdg [~avdg@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:47 *** Osai [~Osai@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:47 *** V453000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:55 *** Ammler [~ammler@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:05 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:08 *** tneo [~tneo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:18 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:22 *** SmatZ [~smatz@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:26 <frosch123> coop has been fixed :p 20:17:38 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:21:09 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r22858 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt order_cmd.cpp order_gui.cpp order_type.h): -Feature: Conditional order depending on remaining lifetime of a vehicle. (monoid) 20:23:59 <appe> bah 20:24:02 <appe> helicopters suck. 20:24:38 <Prof_Frink> Only if you're on top of them. 20:28:38 *** robotx [~robotx@pat-36.wireless.bristol.edu] has joined #openttd 20:38:14 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 20:38:54 *** pm [~pm@dslb-178-003-129-172.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:57 *** mode/#openttd [+o pm] by ChanServ 20:54:01 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:59:38 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d0080a4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:42 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-250-245.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:38 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:04:29 <robotx> openttd on Touchpad - legendary!! thanks to the guys who did it! :) 21:05:51 *** Hyronymus2 [~Hyronymus@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:06:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust3.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:07:55 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09:16 *** JVassie is now known as jvasssie 21:09:19 *** jvasssie is now known as jvassie 21:10:05 *** tneo [~tneo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:10:25 *** Hyronymus2 is now known as Hyronymus 21:10:54 *** Ammler [~ammler@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:11:04 *** Osai [~Osai@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:11:04 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:11:10 *** macee [~macee@dsl4E5C1F99.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 21:11:29 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:11:37 *** SmatZ [~smatz@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:11:54 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-186-243.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 21:12:07 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:12:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o planetmaker] by ChanServ 21:12:37 *** V4530000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:12:37 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:12:40 *** mode/#openttd [+o Terkhen] by ChanServ 21:12:48 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:13:37 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:13:37 *** avdg [~avdg@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:13:40 *** mode/#openttd [+o Yexo] by ChanServ 21:14:07 *** DJNekkid [~djnekkid@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:14:14 <Eddi|zuHause> so... fixed... eh? :p 21:14:22 <^Spike^> don't look at me :) 21:14:27 <planetmaker> :-) 21:14:35 <^Spike^> i tried to recover it as my ssh was still up.. 21:14:37 <^Spike^> but hopeless :) 21:14:50 *** pm [~pm@dslb-178-003-129-172.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:15:38 <appe> http://gyazo.com/fbe3fd4d81822707a5102ab49d640ada 21:15:40 <appe> best maps evar. 21:15:49 *** jvassie is now known as JVassie 21:16:20 <planetmaker> seems like an uber-boring track layout, though 21:16:32 *** zachanima [~zach@184-106-221-93.static.cloud-ips.com] has joined #openttd 21:17:10 <appe> well yeah, im no pro. :) 21:17:29 *** zachanima [~zach@184-106-221-93.static.cloud-ips.com] has quit [] 21:17:51 <planetmaker> it'd look better, if tracks were somewhat shared. you could cut back on the width of the main station 21:18:10 <planetmaker> the current way you need no single signal... which is... well. not the point of rail 21:18:31 <appe> :) 21:18:39 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:39 <appe> im just learning signals 21:20:29 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 21:22:53 *** V4530000 is now known as V453000 21:31:42 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-139-021.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:32:06 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-139-021.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:33:13 <Zuu> appe: Looks like a good start, but there is indeed lot to learn :-) 21:33:50 <Zuu> Once you've learned signals, OpenTTD will become much more fun. 21:34:39 <appe> :) 21:35:11 * ^Spike^ points to V453000 21:35:44 <V453000> hm? 21:35:53 <^Spike^> something with signals and ottd fun :) 21:35:54 <V453000> I am innocent 21:38:35 <Wolf01> 'night 21:38:37 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host26-234-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:54:45 *** Hyronymus [~Hyronymus@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 22:01:59 <Zuu> r22858 misses changes to the NoAI API to allow usage of the new conditional order. 22:02:29 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-78-102-180-2.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:02:40 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.99.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:02:52 *** robotx [~robotx@pat-36.wireless.bristol.edu] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:03:13 <Yexo> Zuu: care to provide a patch? 22:03:20 <Yexo> if not, remind me tomorrow and i'll write one 22:03:32 <Zuu> Not tonight as I'm off to sleep now. 22:03:39 <Yexo> good night :) 22:03:44 <Zuu> you too :-) 22:04:46 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h84n7-ld-c-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14:38 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [] 22:17:49 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19C34.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:32:53 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-5d820724.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 23:05:39 *** TWerkhoven2 [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 23:06:06 *** TWerkhoven2 [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 23:12:30 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:34:14 <planetmaker> g'niht 23:45:15 *** Keiya [~kyevan@171.64.42.221] has joined #openttd 23:47:08 <Keiya> Is it possible for a GRF to add a new climate, or only overwrite an existing one? 23:47:54 <pjpe> there's a toy land to mars conversion grf 23:47:59 <pjpe> that's pretty much the best you can do 23:48:03 <pjpe> making it look different 23:48:06 <pjpe> and i guess play different 23:48:08 <pjpe> and i guess be different