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I have a lot more to do as part of that branch. However, that's a discrete part that can be reviewed/applied on its own. 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[~KouDy@181.41.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #openttd 06:38:56 *** KouDy [~KouDy@181.41.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:39:22 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-43-55.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:39:39 *** KouDy [~KouDy@181.41.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #openttd 06:40:11 <LemLap> I know this has probably been asked a million times, and not sure if you can answer, but where can I get a graphics set? 06:43:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B746BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 06:43:44 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B744C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:45:35 <Rubidium> LemLap: try reading section 4.1 of the readme 06:46:25 *** LemLap [~devslashn@14-202-70-213.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:46:41 *** LemLap [~devslashn@14-202-70-213.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:46:53 <LemLap> I know this has probably been asked a million times, and not sure if you can answer, but where can I get a graphics set? 06:47:42 <Rubidium> LemLap: try reading section 4.1 of the readme 06:59:22 *** KouDy [~KouDy@181.41.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:00:12 *** KouDy [~KouDy@181.41.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #openttd 07:00:52 *** LemLap [~devslashn@14-202-70-213.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01:01 *** LemLap [~devslashn@14-202-70-213.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:08:43 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 07:13:10 *** LemLap [~devslashn@14-202-70-213.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:13:53 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 07:24:38 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 07:28:58 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 07:34:13 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] 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Yexo this is getting scary <- what is? 08:08:23 <Yexo> oh, nvm :) 08:08:26 <Yexo> yes, indeed 08:20:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A83D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:29:34 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [] 08:56:49 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e09eeb8.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:59:12 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@178.248.252.213] has joined #openttd 08:59:19 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@178.248.252.213] has quit [] 09:22:48 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08f06a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:39:23 *** Firartix [~artixds@38.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 09:22:11 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-058-021.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 09:23:08 *** KouDy [~KouDy@181.41.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:23:51 *** KouDy [~KouDy@181.41.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #openttd 09:24:34 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 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<andythenorth> I'm wondering if they can be composited.... 11:05:31 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.hs-merseburg.de/~nosske/EpocheII/fg/e2f_gwwv.html <-- basic overview over the freight wagons 11:05:36 <andythenorth> tonight I'll try and add compositing to the BANDIT pixel code 11:06:00 <MNIM> Hey guys, I'me being peeved at TTRS right now. is there any way to make it play nice with recent versions OTTD by any chance? 11:06:08 <andythenorth> MNIM: patch it 11:06:34 <MNIM> a newgrf? 11:07:05 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: basically there's "high" brakers cabs like here: http://www.hs-merseburg.de/~nosske/EpocheII/fg/e2f_g122.gif and "low" brakers cabs like here: http://www.hs-merseburg.de/~nosske/EpocheII/fg/e2f_g101.gif 11:07:41 <andythenorth> do you think you could persuade your artists to draw 1px hotspots on a base wagon? 11:08:28 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean like autogenerate the basic shape, and let the artists do manual touchups? 11:08:47 <andythenorth> I mean like draw the basic shape by hand, then composite the variations 11:08:54 <andythenorth> ;) 11:09:16 <Eddi|zuHause> ah, yes. i think that can be managed :) 11:09:27 <andythenorth> I'll prove the concept works later 11:09:48 <andythenorth> to make this work, reserved colour ranges are needed 11:10:05 <andythenorth> but that's fine for most sets 11:10:29 <Eddi|zuHause> why? 11:11:02 <andythenorth> the compositor finds a pixel of colour n, then draws more pixels at that location 11:11:14 <andythenorth> there are other approaches that could work as well 11:11:26 <andythenorth> right now 'the compositor' doesn't exist at all :) 11:11:51 <Eddi|zuHause> just go linearly from top to bottom and make sure you never draw over a pixel you're gonna read again, or never read a pixel that you've already drawn over 11:12:13 <andythenorth> yup 11:12:22 <andythenorth> that's how it scans 11:12:37 <andythenorth> actually, no, it doesn't check for pixels drawn over already 11:12:46 <andythenorth> it currently relies on being able to overdraw 11:13:07 <andythenorth> anyway, this won't make any sense without examples or code 11:13:11 <andythenorth> so I'll do that later 11:13:33 <andythenorth> dumping my brain into irc is proven not good for explaining to others :P 11:14:29 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has joined #openttd 11:25:34 <appe> :D 11:26:14 *** chester [~chester@128-68-70-221.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:36:11 *** KouDy [~KouDy@181.41.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:36:52 *** KouDy [~KouDy@181.41.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #openttd 11:56:06 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-213-49-111-183.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 12:13:46 *** KouDy [~KouDy@181.41.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:13:47 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-112-132.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 12:14:44 *** KouDy [~KouDy@181.41.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #openttd 12:19:07 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-145-119.dynamic.qsc.de] has 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projector is to be delivered tomorrow :-) 14:50:31 *** Nithius [626f37c1@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:51:47 *** Nithius [626f37c1@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [] 14:53:39 <appe> :o 14:53:44 <appe> i gave mine away 14:57:58 <dihedral> i ordered eh-tw3200 14:58:02 <dihedral> it has lens-shift :-) 15:23:17 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@cm-188.126.201.147.customer.telag.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:23:53 *** KouDy [~KouDy@181.41.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:42:39 *** Firartix [~artixds@38.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:50:42 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:03:39 <peter1138> dihedral, does it have 32bpp-ez? 16:22:43 *** Firartix [~artixds@38.140.0.93.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 16:53:15 *** rdstm [fast@89.123.39.73] has joined #openttd 16:53:35 * rdstm says HI 16:54:18 * planetmaker says 'ho' 16:56:34 <rdstm> what-s up around here ? 16:58:23 *** rdstm [fast@89.123.39.73] has quit [] 16:58:34 <planetmaker> lol 17:01:54 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-058-021.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 17:07:27 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:11:49 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-064-080.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 17:12:13 *** lmergen [~lmergen@5352EA70.cm-6-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:20:19 <supermop> hi planetmaker 17:21:46 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e09eeb8.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:21:57 *** Markavian [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:25:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r23973 /trunk/src/saveload/ (saveload.cpp vehicle_sl.cpp): -Fix (r23947): Also save the maximum travel speed for the current vehicle order. 17:28:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:28:07 <planetmaker> hi supermop 17:28:23 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@j616s.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:29:13 <supermop> do you do much photography? i was under the impression you did... 17:29:52 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 17:30:02 <planetmaker> much... is a relative term. I enjoy it, yes 17:30:22 <planetmaker> But it's not like I find that much time for it like I'd like. Thus not every day. Not even every week 17:31:10 <supermop> ah ok 17:31:29 <planetmaker> why do you ask? 17:31:45 <supermop> i am looking to buy a tilt shift lens 17:31:57 <planetmaker> aye. Unfortunately I don't have any :-) 17:32:09 <supermop> but even used they are around 1200 17:32:11 <supermop> usd 17:32:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6ADCE.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:32:25 <supermop> so i am not sure what features i should be looking for 17:32:27 <planetmaker> well. They *are* quite special 17:32:54 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 17:34:05 <supermop> actually i have to run meet my friend for lunch in union square and take some fisheye pictures there 17:34:15 <supermop> ill be back in a bit 17:37:11 <planetmaker> :-) 17:37:47 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 17:39:38 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.186.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:40:15 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.jkit.nl] has joined #openttd 17:47:50 *** bb10 [~bb10@bb10x.org] has left #openttd [Cya] 17:49:18 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-064-080.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04:01 *** bb10 [~bb10@bb10x.org] has joined #openttd 18:04:08 *** TWerkhoven2[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:05:27 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-86-49-73-178.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:06:08 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-86-49-67-69.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:07:10 <Terkhen> hello 18:09:59 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:11:01 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:23:32 *** TWerkhoven2[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 18:37:52 *** wica [5cfe669b@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 18:45:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r23974 /trunk/src/lang/ (french.txt greek.txt serbian.txt unfinished/urdu.txt): 18:45:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: french - 1 changes by OliTTD 18:45:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: greek - 18 changes by geraki 18:45:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: serbian - 15 changes by etran 18:45:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: urdu - 31 changes by haider 18:48:41 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:48:44 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:52:04 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:52:15 <andythenorth_> Ho 18:52:25 <andythenorth_> Irc on a phone 18:52:35 <andythenorth_> How novel :o 18:53:16 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:53:24 <Alberth> way to complicated to type messages :) 18:53:41 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:54:10 <Alberth> one super mop coming through :) 18:55:09 <Alberth> hmm, reading the forum all day implies you don't have anything left to read in the evening :( 18:56:36 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:56:40 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 19:00:29 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@cpe-74-73-93-202.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:50 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [Leaving] 19:01:02 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008171.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:25 <supermop> helllo 19:09:49 <__ln__> abend, supermop 19:11:06 <supermop> guten abend fur dich auch 19:14:29 * andythenorth ponders 19:14:38 <andythenorth> what to procedurally draw next :P 19:14:56 <andythenorth> finish tanker trailers? or try a new problem to stress the code a little? 19:15:05 <supermop> trees? 19:15:08 <Alberth> toyland industries? 19:15:17 <andythenorth> both nice suggestions 19:15:19 <supermop> newobjects? 19:15:26 * andythenorth is sticking to knitting of 'trucks' though 19:15:31 <Alberth> c++ source code? 19:15:39 <andythenorth> trees are valid, but...kind of solved no? 19:15:56 <andythenorth> the trees we have look nice 19:16:19 * Alberth agrees 19:16:39 <Alberth> although I don't know the name of that newgrf :p 19:19:16 <andythenorth> Alberth: I'm going to next figure out how to make composite from existing sprites 19:19:23 <andythenorth> rather than draw new sequences from iterables 19:19:39 <andythenorth> after that...the next step might be to repackage this stuff in a clean way for reuse in other sets 19:19:56 <Alberth> that would be a major step forwards 19:20:19 <andythenorth> not really sure how to do that 19:20:32 <andythenorth> I have ideas....but assistance would be welcome ;) 19:20:40 <Alberth> repackaging could be done today already, I think 19:20:51 <andythenorth> probably 19:21:17 <andythenorth> I have plenty of ideas for refactoring how the generator works 19:21:23 <andythenorth> having tested multiple cases with it 19:21:49 <andythenorth> I think a new spec might be wise 19:22:00 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 19:22:30 <Alberth> ok, I need to get some tea thus :) 19:25:08 <andythenorth> I need to make dinner, and keep this baby sleeping ;) 19:30:13 *** Twofish [~Twofish@77-95-76-210.bb.cust.hknett.no] has joined #openttd 19:34:56 <Alberth> stir slowly, and type softly :) 19:35:50 <Alberth> 'quietly' would be a better description :p 19:36:12 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-28-138-17.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:36:46 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:47:54 <andythenorth> anybody think 'pixa' is a stupid name for a package? 19:47:59 <andythenorth> before I make a project for it... 19:49:29 <SpComb> cute name are very important 20:04:42 <andythenorth> Alberth: I've more to add - this format work for you? http://dev.openttdcoop.org/documents/31 20:04:42 <andythenorth> I could organise the spec more like interfaces with doc strings, but that might codify bad assumptions... 20:11:31 <Alberth> I am pretty busy atm, sorry. I looks very brief at first sight 20:12:00 <Alberth> but I am sure we can get to a mutual understanding of the details 20:12:34 <andythenorth> I'm going to extend it quite a bit. 20:12:41 <Alberth> indeed it may be best to be skimpy on the details so I can make my own bad assumptions, then verify them against you :) 20:13:09 <andythenorth> I want to avoid trying to specify implementation too tightly 20:13:20 <andythenorth> as I'm not best judge of that :) 20:13:51 <Alberth> sounds like a good plan 20:14:07 <Alberth> I'll ask about anything I don't understand :) 20:16:31 <andythenorth> k 20:19:56 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.104.165] has joined #openttd 20:25:16 *** pjpe [ade6a119@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 20:28:48 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-178-142-064-080.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 20:29:45 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120216100510]] 20:37:48 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-02.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 20:37:56 <supermop> the light wasnt very good at lunch afterall 20:40:52 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 20:41:26 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:48:26 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-66-252.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 20:48:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 20:51:11 <frosch123> damn... klackons, silicoids and psilons... 20:51:26 <frosch123> is there a worst setup of opponents? 20:52:42 <Alberth> you're playing against very weirdly named opponents :) 20:53:01 <frosch123> maybe there is a chance that they kill each other without noticing me 20:53:41 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-77-142.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:54:38 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-71-40.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 20:54:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:55:52 <Eddi|zuHause> i can't have that situation, as i'm usually klackons :) 20:56:20 <Eddi|zuHause> psilons are cool for spying 20:56:26 <Eddi|zuHause> silicoids are just annoying 20:56:50 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-66-252.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:56:51 <frosch123> hmm, yeah, maybe silicoids & psilons & darloks would be worse :p 20:57:05 *** Twofish [~Twofish@77-95-76-210.bb.cust.hknett.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:57:13 <Eddi|zuHause> darloks are evil, yes :p 21:00:00 <Eddi|zuHause> my klackons occasionally are actually borg... 21:00:03 <andythenorth> there's some other game in the world? :o 21:00:09 <Eddi|zuHause> cybernetic and telepathic 21:00:17 * andythenorth has heard of games other than TTD 21:00:34 <frosch123> i am currently playing cybernetic+telepathic 21:00:38 <frosch123> but as elerian 21:01:02 <frosch123> andythenorth: who said it's a game? :p 21:01:23 <Eddi|zuHause> also unification and +1 production 21:01:35 <Eddi|zuHause> typically -1/2 food 21:01:49 <Eddi|zuHause> and -10 ground combat 21:02:08 <frosch123> -10 ground combat is obvious with telepathic :p 21:02:13 <Eddi|zuHause> and some other things that vary 21:02:29 <Eddi|zuHause> indeed 21:03:28 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-22-166.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 21:08:21 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 21:08:40 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-71-40.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:41 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:08:44 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 21:13:25 *** lmergen [~lmergen@5352EA70.cm-6-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:01 <Eddi|zuHause> -1/2 food doesn't hurt that much with cybernetic, and uncreative doesn't hurt that much if you intend on spying the crap out of everybody :p 21:16:37 <andythenorth> Alberth: spec ;) http://dev.openttdcoop.org/documents/31 21:16:42 <Eddi|zuHause> with unification you have +50% food anyway 21:16:56 <andythenorth> Alberth: I added you to the project, feel free to make edits or notes 21:18:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@193.52.24.37] has joined #openttd 21:19:16 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@193.52.24.37] has quit [] 21:19:30 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@193.52.24.37] has joined #openttd 21:24:08 <frosch123> oh, i confused klackons and silicoids, and attacked the wrong one :p 21:24:19 <Alberth> oh noes, another project that I work in :p 21:30:12 <Alberth> andythenorth: quite tired now, will look at it tomorrow, hopefully 21:31:02 <andythenorth> Alberth: np :) 21:31:05 <andythenorth> no rush 21:31:14 <andythenorth> I'll keep generating examples and tests 21:31:25 <andythenorth> it...flexes...the code 21:34:22 <frosch123> wow, what a low tech game 21:35:52 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 21:41:55 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:45:11 <andythenorth> is it time for bed? 21:45:25 * andythenorth needs the internet for simplest decisions :P 21:48:34 *** chester [~chester@128-68-70-221.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:49:55 <frosch123> hmm, i am wondering why this game went far easier than it should have... looks like the klackons had a quite bad start position with a lot of void systems without any planets... but why the heck have psilons not researched rocketbase yet... 21:58:40 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:00:00 <andythenorth> good night 22:00:02 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:00:31 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-02.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 22:01:30 *** kkb110_ [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-02.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:49 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-213-49-111-183.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 22:13:37 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:29:58 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 22:30:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 22:33:25 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-88.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:33:45 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@95.76.26.172] has quit [] 22:34:40 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-81-118.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 22:34:44 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 22:35:15 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-22-166.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:37:28 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-66-252.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 22:38:16 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:42:48 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-81-118.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:53 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-02.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:56:30 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-02.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 22:59:42 <frosch123> night 22:59:45 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008171.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04:32 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 23:07:25 *** JVassie [~James@2.27.104.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:07:50 <Elukka> hmm. 23:08:55 <Terkhen> good night 23:20:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A83D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:20:38 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:06 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:22:12 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:24:36 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-02.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:25:54 <pjpe> 'Timetabled maximum travel speeds for non-flying vehicles' what is this useful for 23:26:07 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 23:29:41 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08f06a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us] 23:31:32 <DabuYu> pjpe: trains, buses?\ 23:32:22 <pjpe> yeah but why would you want to limit the speeds 23:32:23 <pjpe> congestion? 23:32:40 <DabuYu> that i don't know :) 23:43:56 <planetmaker> you have a better flow if all vehicles go the same speed 23:44:16 <planetmaker> thus you can easily mix normally fast pax trains with slower cargo trains by all trains telling to go the slow cargo train speed 23:44:33 <pjpe> kinda inefficient 23:56:46 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]